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rockfx01 | quick question - i'm new to triaging ubuntu bugs | 03:04 |
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rockfx01 | if a bug is fixed upstream, what should the status be updated to? | 03:05 |
rockfx01 | ubuntu bug #326896 | 03:05 |
ubot4 | Ubuntu bug 326896 in linux "no sound with hp dv7-1083eo" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/326896 | 03:05 |
JontheEchidna | rockfx01: fix committed | 03:09 |
rockfx01 | do i need to link to the upstream bug also? | 03:12 |
rockfx01 | (if i can find it) | 03:12 |
dholbach | good morning | 07:10 |
maxb | I do not think that a bug fixed upstream implies "Fix Committed" | 09:49 |
wolfger | No? If it is fixed upstream, it will eventually find it's way into Ubuntu. That sounds like it's been committed to me... | 09:52 |
Hobbsee | that was always the launchpad definition of fix committed - "a fix exists. somewhere" | 09:53 |
Hobbsee | or similar | 09:53 |
jpds | maxb: I do. | 09:53 |
maxb | There was a debate on the bugsquad ML about this. It was inconclusive | 09:54 |
maxb | However I take https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Status as the master reference and it says "Fix Committed" on an Ubuntu task is not appropriate here | 09:55 |
maxb | Fix Committed: | 09:55 |
maxb | # For a bug task about an upstream project: the fix is in CVS/SVN/bzr or committed to some place | 09:55 |
maxb | # For an Ubuntu package: the changes are pending and to be uploaded soon (it's what PENDINGUPLOAD was in Bugzilla) | 09:55 |
maxb | # | 09:55 |
jpds | It's the first point?# | 09:56 |
maxb | No, because we're talking about an Ubuntu bugtask here | 09:56 |
seb128 | maxb: ubuntu-desktop uses fix commited when the fix is commited to the GNOME git | 10:23 |
james_w | thekorn: you rock! | 10:47 |
thekorn | james_w, :) | 10:47 |
james_w | it's fixed the interleaving issues | 10:48 |
james_w | there's still one issue though | 10:48 |
james_w | when I get the callback that the command has finished I need to read to EOF on the file descriptors | 10:48 |
james_w | otherwise there is a race | 10:49 |
james_w | any bright ideas? | 10:49 |
thekorn | james_w, you mean if the command you are watching finished? | 10:52 |
james_w | yeah | 10:52 |
james_w | I use a gobject.child_watch_add to get a callback when that happens | 10:53 |
james_w | which signals to the calling process | 10:53 |
james_w | however, I want to ensure that all output has been signalled before that | 10:53 |
james_w | or perhaps that's not possible, so I would need to a way to signal when EOF was hit | 10:53 |
thekorn | there is a gobject.IO_HUP condition | 10:54 |
thekorn | Hung up (the connection has been broken, usually for pipes and sockets). | 10:54 |
thekorn | which should be the case when a command has finished | 10:55 |
james_w | there still seems to be a race, where the IO_HUP won't be called if the child dies | 11:19 |
james_w | reading from the fd when the child dies seems to do the trick, but I worry that as it's still non-blocking it won't always work | 11:19 |
maxb | seb128: That probably ought to be documented on the bugsquad key to statuses then | 11:20 |
seb128 | maxb: that's not really official just how we tend to use it and busquad disagree with it I think | 11:26 |
maxb | I assume it's an artifact of gnome and ubuntu being somewhat more coupled than other upstreams | 11:29 |
thekorn | james_w, sorry, why won't IO_HUP be called when the child dies, | 11:45 |
thekorn | or am I missing some thing | 11:45 |
james_w | I've no idea | 11:45 |
james_w | but it isn't :-) | 11:45 |
thekorn | james_w, for me IO_HUP always works, even if I kill the child: http://paste.ubuntu.com/191567/ | 11:55 |
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james_w | thanks thekorn, it works now | 12:11 |
thekorn | cool | 12:11 |
james_w | I've no idea what I was doing wrong, I tried it a few times | 12:11 |
thekorn | james_w, out of interest, is it top secret code, or public somewhere? | 12:14 |
james_w | neither :-) | 12:14 |
thekorn | ok :) | 12:15 |
james_w | hmm, just got a failure | 12:15 |
james_w | it seems the cb for IO_HUP sometimes gets interrupted | 12:20 |
thekorn | james_w, what do you mean by interrupted, for both IOCHannels or only for one? | 12:24 |
james_w | I added a write call in that part of the handler and sometimes get: | 12:24 |
james_w | Traceback (most recent call last): | 12:24 |
james_w | File "/home/jw2328/devel/pkghelper/dbus/backend.py", line 89, in _stdout_cb | 12:24 |
james_w | sys.stderr.write("out FINI\n") | 12:24 |
james_w | IOError: [Errno 4] Interrupted system call | 12:24 |
james_w | where the other works fine in the same run | 12:24 |
james_w | obviously the exception prevents signalling the content in that case | 12:25 |
james_w | but I'm not sure what happens when the write isn't there | 12:25 |
james_w | I get occasional failures, so I added the writes to get a trace of what is happening | 12:25 |
thekorn | hmm, can't guess what's going wrong there, maybe some kind of threading related issues | 12:43 |
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james_w | can apport be used without a GUI? | 14:12 |
seb128 | james_w: apport-cli? | 14:13 |
james_w | so an admin would watch for entries in /var/crash and then use apport-cli to report them? | 14:14 |
seb128 | james_w: correct | 14:14 |
james_w | how does it get around not being able to open a webbrowser? | 14:15 |
seb128 | good question for pitti I don't know, maybe it used w3m or something ;-) | 14:16 |
seb128 | uses | 14:16 |
james_w | ok, thanks | 14:17 |
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bddebian | Boo | 14:47 |
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pace_t_zulu | did i miss the bugsquad meeting? | 16:04 |
thekorn | pace_t_zulu, no it is in one hour | 16:05 |
andresmujica | yup... about one hour from now | 16:07 |
pace_t_zulu | thank you thekorn ... i still need to figure out UTC | 16:07 |
pace_t_zulu | is there a city that is in UTC year round? | 16:13 |
jmarsden | pace_t_zulu: I don't know of one. See if http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/ is useful to you? | 16:18 |
pace_t_zulu | jmarsden: i guess Reykjavik is UTC right now... right? | 16:19 |
jmarsden | Yes. | 16:19 |
maxb | pace_t_zulu: if UTC is what you want, ask for UTC explicitly, not a city | 16:33 |
maxb | You may find the "date -u" shell command useful | 16:34 |
pace_t_zulu | maxb: +1 | 16:34 |
pace_t_zulu | thanks maxb | 16:34 |
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BUGabundo | boas tardes | 16:49 |
andresmujica | hola bugabundo | 16:50 |
BUGabundo | ola andresmujica charlie-tca | 16:52 |
charlie-tca | Good Morning, BUGabundo | 16:53 |
BUGabundo | charlie-tca: how have you been? we have not talked much. diff timezones I guess | 16:53 |
charlie-tca | Haven't been around. Tired, took a small break. | 16:54 |
BUGabundo | ahh so that's it | 16:54 |
andresmujica | 5 minutes to the bugsquad meeting at #ubuntu-meeting | 16:55 |
bcurtiswx-mini | REMINDER: Bug Squad Meeting in #ubuntu-meeting in 5 minutes | 16:55 |
bcurtiswx-mini | andresmujica: you beat me to it :P | 16:56 |
andresmujica | but without the REMINDER tag ;) | 16:56 |
BUGabundo | ahahha | 16:56 |
bcurtiswx-mini | lol | 16:56 |
BUGabundo | bcurtiswx-mini: mini? mini what? eeepc? | 16:56 |
bcurtiswx-mini | dell | 16:56 |
bcurtiswx-mini | 9 | 16:56 |
BUGabundo | ah | 16:57 |
* BUGabundo pokes charlie-tca to look at PVT chats | 16:57 | |
* BUGabundo pokes cwillu just to check if poking stick is working | 16:58 | |
BUGabundo | ;) | 16:58 |
pace_t_zulu | BUGabundo: you ready for meeting | 16:59 |
BUGabundo | naa | 16:59 |
BUGabundo | why should I be there? | 16:59 |
* bcurtiswx-mini threatens to switch BUG to time warner if he doesn't go | 16:59 | |
andresmujica | you're the best bug reporter around !!! | 16:59 |
andresmujica | how is that you're not going to be there!? | 16:59 |
pace_t_zulu | it's in #ubuntu-meeting right? | 17:00 |
andresmujica | ok let's start the meeting | 17:00 |
andresmujica | yeap | 17:00 |
BUGabundo | andresmujica: I'm the spammest around that's about it :) | 17:00 |
* bcurtiswx-mini kick BUG | 17:00 | |
* BUGabundo gets forced into opening yet another channel | 17:00 | |
* BUGabundo shouts autch | 17:00 | |
BUGabundo | I better stop doĩng that at meeting | 17:02 |
BUGabundo | lolol | 17:02 |
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BUGabundo | had no idea this meetings were so calm... | 17:08 |
BUGabundo | I'm so used to be on some that are such a rush | 17:09 |
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bcurtiswx-mini | meeting for bug squad in #ubuntu-meeting | 17:17 |
BUGabundo | micahg: what is the apport prob? | 17:51 |
micahg | prob? | 17:52 |
micahg | no prob | 17:52 |
micahg | just a compliment | 17:52 |
micahg | oh, my old thing from yesterday? | 17:52 |
BUGabundo | no | 17:53 |
micahg | ok | 17:53 |
BUGabundo | from #-meetting | 17:53 |
micahg | ah | 17:53 |
micahg | a compliment about having apport collect | 17:53 |
micahg | bug 383020 | 17:54 |
ubot4 | Launchpad bug 383020 in firefox-3.5 "Some input fields are several times longer than normal" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/383020 | 17:54 |
BUGabundo | micahg: ahhhh compliment...miss read. | 17:58 |
BUGabundo | thought it was a complaint | 17:59 |
BUGabundo | LOLOLOL | 17:59 |
andresmujica | hmm | 18:01 |
andresmujica | only first topic discussed... | 18:01 |
andresmujica | we talked a lot... | 18:01 |
bcurtiswx-mini | yeah, but it was a good, thx for moding andresmujica | 18:01 |
bcurtiswx-mini | unforunately, i have to get back to work.. thanks for the excuse to take a break ;-) | 18:02 |
andresmujica | glad to do it.. | 18:02 |
andresmujica | :) | 18:02 |
hggdh | and I will be back in a few | 18:03 |
XCP | hi. I have a problem that recently showed up: when ever I try to start programs, 80% of the time my PC hangs and ubuntu becomes a CPU hog. sometimes it stops to do that, but often I can only restart. it happens with: mythtv, wine, lyx, etc... is this a known issue? | 18:36 |
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BUGabundo | XCP: on what version and flaouver? | 18:37 |
XCP | BUGabundo: 9.04, gnome. ubuntu. | 18:38 |
BUGabundo | fully updated? | 18:38 |
BUGabundo | what GPU ? | 18:38 |
XCP | BUGabundo: yes. it didn't happen immediately after the upgrade to 9.04 | 18:38 |
XCP | ATI HD 4850 | 18:38 |
BUGabundo | so it aint an intel prob | 18:39 |
BUGabundo | can you boot from an older kernel ? | 18:39 |
XCP | yes (but not now, since I have programs running) ... what would you suggest? | 18:40 |
BUGabundo | XCP: well if you could track down what is causing it, it would be great | 18:42 |
BUGabundo | I would point to HW | 18:42 |
BUGabundo | if you can, run an fsck and memtest | 18:42 |
alex_muntada | i reported a bug and assignee asked for a test and set it to incomplete, should i set it back to new after providing the requested feedback? is this the standard procedure? | 18:42 |
BUGabundo | if it all goes ok, try an older kernel for a day | 18:42 |
BUGabundo | alex_muntada: yes | 18:42 |
alex_muntada | BUGabundo: thanks a lot | 18:42 |
BUGabundo | alex_muntada: np | 18:43 |
alex_muntada | i read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/HowToTriage but i wasn't sure enough | 18:43 |
XCP2 | I got disconnected, BUGabundo. did you respod? | 18:45 |
XCP2 | respond* | 18:45 |
XCP2 | "yes (but not now, since I have programs running) ... what would you suggest?" | 18:45 |
BUGabundo | (2009-06-09 18:43:11) freenode: XCP: well if you could track down what is causing it, it would be great | 18:47 |
BUGabundo | (2009-06-09 18:43:19) freenode: I would point to HW | 18:47 |
BUGabundo | (2009-06-09 18:43:27) freenode: if you can, run an fsck and memtest | 18:47 |
BUGabundo | : if it all goes ok, try an older kernel for a day | 18:47 |
BUGabundo | and there goes your clone | 18:47 |
XCP2 | heh | 18:47 |
XCP2 | okay | 18:47 |
XCP2 | it's weird. I've been running 8.10 for quite a while now, very satisfied with it. (It's been my first try at Linux after Windows). then I updated to 9.04. First,the official ATI driver got replaced by one that's shipped with Ubuntu, which had a bug in it (already multiple bug reports on launchpad for that one). however, this is still not fixed. So I uninstalled the driver completely. And a few days later this problem started. | 18:50 |
BUGabundo | could be related | 18:53 |
BUGabundo | but can't be sure | 18:53 |
BUGabundo | bbl | 19:03 |
maxb | This is rather weird. My boot-time fsck is failing to resove *one* LABEL=foo statement in my fstab, but others work | 19:09 |
maxb | Does anyone have any debugging insight for me ? :-) | 19:09 |
maxb | Hmm | 19:10 |
maxb | It's missing from `blkid` but present in /dev/disk/by-label/ | 19:11 |
hscdude | hello | 20:07 |
hscdude | why so many programs in ubuntu fail to work | 20:08 |
savvas | hscdude: be specific :) | 20:10 |
hscdude | savvas: audacity fails to play audio | 20:15 |
* hscdude beats up audacity's git repo with a cluebat and reinstalls vista on it | 20:15 | |
hscdude | savvas: I found a work around, but still.. grrr. | 20:15 |
fredrik_ | reported bug #374185@ launchpadd a month ago, noone picks it up - is this the way it goes or have I missed something (like assigning it to the proper maintainer)? | 20:19 |
ubot4 | Launchpad bug 374185 in ipsec-tools "racoon crashes when racoon.conf contains sainfo section for ipv6" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/374185 | 20:19 |
savvas | hscdude: and the same version of audacity works in other distributions? | 20:20 |
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Adri2000 | bdmurray: as you're (afaik) the ubuntu bug master paid by canonical, and admin of the sru verification team, can you do something for bug #328874 ? it's a bug in a main package (samba) in an lts release (hardy) that has been waiting for an sru verification for months | 21:12 |
ubot4 | Launchpad bug 328874 in samba "getent group crashes winbindd on domain controller" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/328874 | 21:12 |
bdmurray | Adri2000: It would help if the bug report had a test case as I'm not certain (nor probably are other SRU Verification team members) how to setup the particular scenario | 21:15 |
maxb | I happened to have dmsetup/lvm2 installed because I was reading the documentation - I wasn't using it at all - but recent Karmic changes broke a couple of different things which I fixed by purging all dm/lvm packages | 21:20 |
maxb | Can anyone suggest how best I can usefully file a bug, since I don't really know dm well, nor which package specifically is at fault | 21:21 |
james_w | thekorn: still around by any chance? | 21:24 |
james_w | http://paste.ubuntu.com/191893/ | 21:24 |
james_w | this shows the problem that I am having | 21:24 |
james_w | if you run it in a loop you will see that it will eventually fail, as the child exits before one of the HUPs | 21:25 |
james_w | so, some synchronisation would be needed | 21:25 |
james_w | if you comment out the Event lines then you will see what I attempted to do | 21:26 |
james_w | however, run in a loop this will eventually hang | 21:26 |
james_w | because it never sets the event for one of the fds | 21:27 |
james_w | I can only presume this is because the SIGCHILD is received at a bad moment, and so the event is never set, but the callback isn't called again | 21:27 |
Adri2000 | bdmurray: the environment where I encountered this bug had two domains (ubuntu/samba/openldap and windows nt4) with interdomain trust relationships. I don't known if it's possible to reproduce in a less complex environment | 21:39 |
Adri2000 | bdmurray: given the size of the patch (one line, s/i/num_mapped)/), upstream support to the change, and time in hardy-proposed (since march), what do you think of making an exception to the rule and pushing the package to -updates anyway? | 21:44 |
bdmurray | Adri2000: It sounds reasonable to me but I'll talk to the archive admins. | 21:45 |
Adri2000 | (I mean, in -proposed since march and no negative feedback) | 21:45 |
Adri2000 | ok, thanks | 21:45 |
sbeattie | Adri2000: were you able test it, and confirm that it fixes the issue? | 21:46 |
bdmurray | sbeattie: Are there any samba tests? | 21:47 |
Adri2000 | sbeattie: yes, see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/samba/+bug/328874/comments/10 | 21:47 |
ubot4 | Launchpad bug 328874 in samba "getent group crashes winbindd on domain controller" [Medium,Fix committed] | 21:47 |
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sbeattie | bdmurray: there are, but they don't currently exercise winbindd | 21:50 |
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thekorn | james_w, yes, kind of, just came back home | 22:23 |
thekorn | let's see | 22:23 |
thekorn | james_w, indeed, it hangs randomly | 22:26 |
thekorn | james_w, found the problem: it hangs when there are still event pending in the MainContext when fini_callback is called | 22:31 |
thekorn | so all you have to do is to process all pending event, which should be two lines of code, let's see | 22:31 |
thekorn | james_w, http://paste.ubuntu.com/191947/ | 22:35 |
thekorn | I'm calling this 5k times right now, without any problem | 22:36 |
thekorn | looks like it is fixed | 22:36 |
james_w | wow | 22:37 |
james_w | I owe you big time | 22:38 |
thekorn | you can now also remove thisthreading.Event() things | 22:38 |
hggdh | question: I am looking for Evolution (Thread)Stacktraces with email and IP addresses being shown, to test an apport hook. Anyone knows an easy way to get them? Bug #s welcome | 23:12 |
jgoguen | bug 383715, I can confirm it, but I'm not sure what other info would be useful (either from myself or the original reporter) for the developers | 23:26 |
ubot4 | Launchpad bug 383715 in update-manager "When updating from a ppa description says "Failed to detect distribution"" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/383715 | 23:26 |
hggdh | jgoguen, it would be interesting to have the dpkg log | 23:29 |
jgoguen | hggdh: /var/log/dpkg.log right? | 23:30 |
hggdh | correct | 23:30 |
hggdh | hum | 23:31 |
jgoguen | hggdh: ok thanks, I'll provide mine and ask the reporter to provide theirs as well | 23:31 |
hggdh | jgoguen, I guess the /var/log/apt/term.log also | 23:32 |
hggdh | and I am (also) guessing we would not need the data from the reporter, since you already reproduced | 23:32 |
Ampelbein | jgoguen, hggdh: i don't think they are needed. | 23:32 |
hggdh | Ampelbein, I was not sure, anyways... why not? | 23:33 |
Ampelbein | jgoguen, hggdh: the changelog is displayed before the update starts so dpkg or apt aren't invoked yet | 23:33 |
Ampelbein | s/invoked/involved | 23:33 |
jgoguen | Ampelbein: am I OK to just mark it Triaged then? | 23:34 |
Ampelbein | from what i think the problem comes from update-manager looking at changelog.ubuntu.com and can't find the version there. | 23:34 |
hggdh | jgoguen, do you have apt-listchanges installed? | 23:34 |
Ampelbein | jgoguen: you could poke mvo about it | 23:35 |
jgoguen | hggdh: no, I don't | 23:35 |
hggdh | jgoguen, yes, go ahead. And poke mvo anyways ;-) | 23:35 |
jgoguen | ok, I'll make a note to poke mvo when he's online next | 23:36 |
hggdh | but that's weird... I use PPA, and I do not remember seeing this message before | 23:36 |
hggdh | oh. update-manager... I do not use it. Sorry | 23:36 |
jgoguen | hggdh: I just reproduced it with the ubuntu-mozilla-daily PPA | 23:36 |
jgoguen | yea, normally I just use aptitude :) | 23:37 |
hggdh | well, sorry. Anyways: I am still looking for Evolution stacktraces with email or IP addresses being shown. Anyone comes by one of them, please give me the bug # | 23:38 |
hggdh | oy vey... b.g.o is slow (as usual?) | 23:44 |
hggdh | very... slow... | 23:44 |
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