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rockfx01quick question - i'm new to triaging ubuntu bugs03:04
rockfx01if a bug is fixed upstream, what should the status be updated to?03:05
rockfx01ubuntu bug #32689603:05
ubot4Ubuntu bug 326896 in linux "no sound with hp dv7-1083eo" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/32689603:05
JontheEchidnarockfx01: fix committed03:09
rockfx01do i need to link to the upstream bug also?03:12
rockfx01(if i can find it)03:12
dholbachgood morning07:10
maxbI do not think that a bug fixed upstream implies "Fix Committed"09:49
wolfgerNo? If it is fixed upstream, it will eventually find it's way into Ubuntu. That sounds like it's been committed to me...09:52
Hobbseethat was always the launchpad definition of fix committed - "a fix exists.  somewhere"09:53
Hobbseeor similar09:53
jpdsmaxb: I do.09:53
maxbThere was a debate on the bugsquad ML about this. It was inconclusive09:54
maxbHowever I take https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Status as the master reference and it says "Fix Committed" on an Ubuntu task is not appropriate here09:55
maxbFix Committed:09:55
maxb# For a bug task about an upstream project: the fix is in CVS/SVN/bzr or committed to some place09:55
maxb# For an Ubuntu package: the changes are pending and to be uploaded soon (it's what PENDINGUPLOAD was in Bugzilla)09:55
maxb#09:55
jpdsIt's the first point?#09:56
maxbNo, because we're talking about an Ubuntu bugtask here09:56
seb128maxb: ubuntu-desktop uses fix commited when the fix is commited to the GNOME git10:23
james_wthekorn: you rock!10:47
thekornjames_w, :)10:47
james_wit's fixed the interleaving issues10:48
james_wthere's still one issue though10:48
james_wwhen I get the callback that the command has finished I need to read to EOF on the file descriptors10:48
james_wotherwise there is a race10:49
james_wany bright ideas?10:49
thekornjames_w, you mean if the command you are watching finished?10:52
james_wyeah10:52
james_wI use a gobject.child_watch_add to get a callback when that happens10:53
james_wwhich signals to the calling process10:53
james_whowever, I want to ensure that all output has been signalled before that10:53
james_wor perhaps that's not possible, so I would need to a way to signal when EOF was hit10:53
thekornthere is a gobject.IO_HUP condition10:54
thekornHung up (the connection has been broken, usually for pipes and sockets).10:54
thekornwhich should be the case when a command has finished10:55
james_wthere still seems to be a race, where the IO_HUP won't be called if the child dies11:19
james_wreading from the fd when the child dies seems to do the trick, but I worry that as it's still non-blocking it won't always work11:19
maxbseb128: That probably ought to be documented on the bugsquad key to statuses then11:20
seb128maxb: that's not really official just how we tend to use it and busquad disagree with it I think11:26
maxbI assume it's an artifact of gnome and ubuntu being somewhat more coupled than other upstreams11:29
thekornjames_w, sorry, why won't IO_HUP be called when the child dies,11:45
thekornor am I missing some thing11:45
james_wI've no idea11:45
james_wbut it isn't :-)11:45
thekornjames_w, for me IO_HUP always works, even if I kill the child: http://paste.ubuntu.com/191567/11:55
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james_wthanks thekorn, it works now12:11
thekorncool12:11
james_wI've no idea what I was doing wrong, I tried it a few times12:11
thekornjames_w, out of interest, is it top secret code, or public somewhere?12:14
james_wneither :-)12:14
thekornok :)12:15
james_whmm, just got a failure12:15
james_wit seems the cb for IO_HUP sometimes gets interrupted12:20
thekornjames_w, what do you mean by interrupted, for both IOCHannels or only for one?12:24
james_wI added a write call in that part of the handler and sometimes get:12:24
james_wTraceback (most recent call last):12:24
james_w  File "/home/jw2328/devel/pkghelper/dbus/backend.py", line 89, in _stdout_cb12:24
james_w    sys.stderr.write("out FINI\n")12:24
james_wIOError: [Errno 4] Interrupted system call12:24
james_wwhere the other works fine in the same run12:24
james_wobviously the exception prevents signalling the content in that case12:25
james_wbut I'm not sure what happens when the write isn't there12:25
james_wI get occasional failures, so I added the writes to get a trace of what is happening12:25
thekornhmm, can't guess what's going wrong there, maybe some kind of threading related issues12:43
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james_wcan apport be used without a GUI?14:12
seb128james_w: apport-cli?14:13
james_wso an admin would watch for entries in /var/crash and then use apport-cli to report them?14:14
seb128james_w: correct14:14
james_whow does it get around not being able to open a webbrowser?14:15
seb128good question for pitti I don't know, maybe it used w3m or something ;-)14:16
seb128uses14:16
james_wok, thanks14:17
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pace_t_zuludid i miss the bugsquad meeting?16:04
thekornpace_t_zulu, no it is in one hour16:05
andresmujicayup... about one hour from now16:07
pace_t_zuluthank you thekorn ... i still need to figure out UTC16:07
pace_t_zuluis there a city that is in UTC year round?16:13
jmarsdenpace_t_zulu: I don't know of one.  See if http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/ is useful to you?16:18
pace_t_zulujmarsden: i guess Reykjavik is UTC right now... right?16:19
jmarsdenYes.16:19
maxbpace_t_zulu: if UTC is what you want, ask for UTC explicitly, not a city16:33
maxbYou may find the "date -u" shell command useful16:34
pace_t_zulumaxb: +116:34
pace_t_zuluthanks maxb16:34
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BUGabundoboas tardes16:49
andresmujicahola bugabundo16:50
BUGabundoola andresmujica charlie-tca16:52
charlie-tcaGood Morning, BUGabundo16:53
BUGabundocharlie-tca: how have you been? we have not talked much. diff timezones I guess16:53
charlie-tcaHaven't been around. Tired, took a small break.16:54
BUGabundoahh so that's it16:54
andresmujica5 minutes to the bugsquad meeting at #ubuntu-meeting16:55
bcurtiswx-miniREMINDER: Bug Squad Meeting in #ubuntu-meeting in 5 minutes16:55
bcurtiswx-miniandresmujica: you beat me to it :P16:56
andresmujicabut without the REMINDER tag ;)16:56
BUGabundoahahha16:56
bcurtiswx-minilol16:56
BUGabundobcurtiswx-mini: mini? mini what? eeepc?16:56
bcurtiswx-minidell16:56
bcurtiswx-mini916:56
BUGabundoah16:57
* BUGabundo pokes charlie-tca to look at PVT chats16:57
* BUGabundo pokes cwillu just to check if poking stick is working16:58
BUGabundo;)16:58
pace_t_zuluBUGabundo: you ready for meeting16:59
BUGabundonaa16:59
BUGabundowhy should I be there?16:59
* bcurtiswx-mini threatens to switch BUG to time warner if he doesn't go16:59
andresmujicayou're the best bug reporter around !!!16:59
andresmujicahow is that you're not going to be there!?16:59
pace_t_zuluit's in #ubuntu-meeting right?17:00
andresmujicaok let's start the meeting17:00
andresmujicayeap17:00
BUGabundoandresmujica: I'm the spammest around that's about it :)17:00
* bcurtiswx-mini kick BUG17:00
* BUGabundo gets forced into opening yet another channel17:00
* BUGabundo shouts autch17:00
BUGabundoI better stop doĩng that at meeting17:02
BUGabundololol17:02
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BUGabundohad no idea this meetings were so calm...17:08
BUGabundoI'm so used to be on some that are such a rush17:09
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bcurtiswx-minimeeting for bug squad in #ubuntu-meeting17:17
BUGabundomicahg: what is the apport prob?17:51
micahgprob?17:52
micahgno prob17:52
micahgjust a compliment17:52
micahgoh, my old thing from yesterday?17:52
BUGabundono17:53
micahgok17:53
BUGabundofrom #-meetting17:53
micahgah17:53
micahga compliment about having apport collect17:53
micahgbug 38302017:54
ubot4Launchpad bug 383020 in firefox-3.5 "Some input fields are several times longer than normal" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/38302017:54
BUGabundomicahg: ahhhh compliment...miss read.17:58
BUGabundothought it was a complaint17:59
BUGabundoLOLOLOL17:59
andresmujicahmm18:01
andresmujicaonly first topic discussed...18:01
andresmujicawe talked a lot...18:01
bcurtiswx-miniyeah, but it was a good, thx for moding andresmujica18:01
bcurtiswx-miniunforunately, i have to get back to work.. thanks for the excuse to take a break ;-)18:02
andresmujicaglad to do it..18:02
andresmujica:)18:02
hggdhand I will be back in a few18:03
XCPhi. I have a problem that recently showed up: when ever I try to start programs, 80% of the time my PC hangs and ubuntu becomes a CPU hog. sometimes it stops to do that, but often I can only restart. it happens with: mythtv, wine, lyx, etc... is this a known issue?18:36
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BUGabundoXCP: on what version and flaouver?18:37
XCPBUGabundo: 9.04, gnome. ubuntu.18:38
BUGabundofully updated?18:38
BUGabundowhat GPU ?18:38
XCPBUGabundo: yes. it didn't happen immediately after the upgrade to 9.0418:38
XCPATI HD 485018:38
BUGabundoso it aint an intel prob18:39
BUGabundocan you boot from an older kernel ?18:39
XCPyes (but not now, since I have programs running) ... what would you suggest?18:40
BUGabundoXCP: well if you could track down what is causing it, it would be great18:42
BUGabundoI would point to HW18:42
BUGabundoif you can, run an fsck and memtest18:42
alex_muntadai reported a bug and assignee asked for a test and set it to incomplete, should i set it back to new after providing the requested feedback? is this the standard procedure?18:42
BUGabundoif it all goes ok, try an older kernel for a day18:42
BUGabundoalex_muntada: yes18:42
alex_muntadaBUGabundo: thanks a lot18:42
BUGabundoalex_muntada: np18:43
alex_muntadai read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/HowToTriage but i wasn't sure enough18:43
XCP2I got disconnected, BUGabundo. did you respod?18:45
XCP2respond*18:45
XCP2"yes (but not now, since I have programs running) ... what would you suggest?"18:45
BUGabundo(2009-06-09 18:43:11) freenode: XCP: well if you could track down what is causing it, it would be great18:47
BUGabundo(2009-06-09 18:43:19) freenode: I would point to HW18:47
BUGabundo(2009-06-09 18:43:27) freenode: if you can, run an fsck and memtest18:47
BUGabundo: if it all goes ok, try an older kernel for a day18:47
BUGabundoand there goes your clone18:47
XCP2heh18:47
XCP2okay18:47
XCP2it's weird. I've been running 8.10 for quite a while now, very satisfied with it. (It's been my first try at Linux after Windows). then I updated to 9.04. First,the official ATI driver got replaced by one that's shipped with Ubuntu, which had a bug in it (already multiple bug reports on launchpad for that one). however, this is still not fixed. So I uninstalled the driver completely. And a few days later this problem started.18:50
BUGabundocould be related18:53
BUGabundobut can't be sure18:53
BUGabundobbl19:03
maxbThis is rather weird. My boot-time fsck is failing to resove *one* LABEL=foo statement in my fstab, but others work19:09
maxbDoes anyone have any debugging insight for me ? :-)19:09
maxbHmm19:10
maxbIt's missing from `blkid` but present in /dev/disk/by-label/19:11
hscdudehello20:07
hscdudewhy so many programs in ubuntu fail to work20:08
savvashscdude: be specific :)20:10
hscdudesavvas: audacity fails to play audio20:15
* hscdude beats up audacity's git repo with a cluebat and reinstalls vista on it20:15
hscdudesavvas: I found a work around, but still.. grrr.20:15
fredrik_reported bug #374185@ launchpadd a month ago, noone picks it up - is this the way it goes or have I missed something (like assigning it to the proper maintainer)?20:19
ubot4Launchpad bug 374185 in ipsec-tools "racoon crashes when racoon.conf contains sainfo section for ipv6" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/37418520:19
savvashscdude: and the same version of audacity works in other distributions?20:20
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Adri2000bdmurray: as you're (afaik) the ubuntu bug master paid by canonical, and admin of the sru verification team, can you do something for bug #328874 ? it's a bug in a main package (samba) in an lts release (hardy) that has been waiting for an sru verification for months21:12
ubot4Launchpad bug 328874 in samba "getent group crashes winbindd on domain controller" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/32887421:12
bdmurrayAdri2000: It would help if the bug report had a test case as I'm not certain (nor probably are other SRU Verification team members) how to setup the particular scenario21:15
maxbI happened to have dmsetup/lvm2 installed because I was reading the documentation - I wasn't using it at all - but recent Karmic changes broke a couple of different things which I fixed by purging all dm/lvm packages21:20
maxbCan anyone suggest how best I can usefully file a bug, since I don't really know dm well, nor which package specifically is at fault21:21
james_wthekorn: still around by any chance?21:24
james_whttp://paste.ubuntu.com/191893/21:24
james_wthis shows the problem that I am having21:24
james_wif you run it in a loop you will see that it will eventually fail, as the child exits before one of the HUPs21:25
james_wso, some synchronisation would be needed21:25
james_wif you comment out the Event lines then you will see what I attempted to do21:26
james_whowever, run in a loop this will eventually hang21:26
james_wbecause it never sets the event for one of the fds21:27
james_wI can only presume this is because the SIGCHILD is received at a bad moment, and so the event is never set, but the callback isn't called again21:27
Adri2000bdmurray: the environment where I encountered this bug had two domains (ubuntu/samba/openldap and windows nt4) with interdomain trust relationships. I don't known if it's possible to reproduce in a less complex environment21:39
Adri2000bdmurray: given the size of the patch (one line, s/i/num_mapped)/), upstream support to the change, and time in hardy-proposed (since march), what do you think of making an exception to the rule and pushing the package to -updates anyway?21:44
bdmurrayAdri2000: It sounds reasonable to me but I'll talk to the archive admins.21:45
Adri2000(I mean, in -proposed since march and no negative feedback)21:45
Adri2000ok, thanks21:45
sbeattieAdri2000: were you able test it, and confirm that it fixes the issue?21:46
bdmurraysbeattie: Are there any samba tests?21:47
Adri2000sbeattie: yes, see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/samba/+bug/328874/comments/1021:47
ubot4Launchpad bug 328874 in samba "getent group crashes winbindd on domain controller" [Medium,Fix committed]21:47
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sbeattiebdmurray: there are, but they don't currently exercise winbindd21:50
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thekornjames_w, yes, kind of, just came back home22:23
thekornlet's see22:23
thekornjames_w, indeed, it hangs randomly22:26
thekornjames_w, found the problem: it hangs when there are still event pending in the MainContext when fini_callback is called22:31
thekornso all you have to do is to process all pending event, which should be two lines of code, let's see22:31
thekornjames_w, http://paste.ubuntu.com/191947/22:35
thekornI'm calling this 5k times right now, without any problem22:36
thekornlooks like it is fixed22:36
james_wwow22:37
james_wI owe you big time22:38
thekornyou can now also remove thisthreading.Event() things22:38
hggdhquestion: I am looking for Evolution (Thread)Stacktraces with email and IP addresses being shown, to test an apport hook. Anyone knows an easy way to get them? Bug #s welcome23:12
jgoguenbug 383715, I can confirm it, but I'm not sure what other info would be useful (either from myself or the original reporter) for the developers23:26
ubot4Launchpad bug 383715 in update-manager "When updating from a ppa description says "Failed to detect distribution"" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/38371523:26
hggdhjgoguen, it would be interesting to have the dpkg log23:29
jgoguenhggdh: /var/log/dpkg.log right?23:30
hggdhcorrect23:30
hggdhhum23:31
jgoguenhggdh: ok thanks, I'll provide mine and ask the reporter to provide theirs as well23:31
hggdhjgoguen, I guess the /var/log/apt/term.log also23:32
hggdhand I am (also) guessing we would not need the data from the reporter, since you already reproduced23:32
Ampelbeinjgoguen, hggdh: i don't think they are needed.23:32
hggdhAmpelbein, I was not sure, anyways... why not?23:33
Ampelbeinjgoguen, hggdh: the changelog is displayed before the update starts so dpkg or apt aren't invoked yet23:33
Ampelbeins/invoked/involved23:33
jgoguenAmpelbein: am I OK to just mark it Triaged then?23:34
Ampelbeinfrom what i think the problem comes from update-manager looking at changelog.ubuntu.com and can't find the version there.23:34
hggdhjgoguen, do you have apt-listchanges installed?23:34
Ampelbeinjgoguen: you could poke mvo about it23:35
jgoguenhggdh: no, I don't23:35
hggdhjgoguen, yes, go ahead. And poke mvo anyways ;-)23:35
jgoguenok, I'll make a note to poke mvo when he's online next23:36
hggdhbut that's weird... I use PPA, and I do not remember seeing this message before23:36
hggdhoh. update-manager... I do not use it. Sorry23:36
jgoguenhggdh: I just reproduced it with the ubuntu-mozilla-daily PPA23:36
jgoguenyea, normally I just use aptitude :)23:37
hggdhwell, sorry. Anyways: I am still looking for Evolution stacktraces with email or IP addresses being shown. Anyone comes by one of them, please give me the bug #23:38
hggdhoy vey... b.g.o is slow (as usual?)23:44
hggdhvery... slow...23:44
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