[00:00] <dma> i am trying to use pidgin
[00:00] <Dr_Willis> there are MUCH better irc clients then Pidgin.
[00:01] <cheeseman> openj pidgin click irc enter user name and server
[00:01] <dma> can u recomend one
[00:01] <cheeseman> click ok
[00:01] <quickdraw> xchat is the best for irc, but dma wants yahoo.
[00:01] <fccf> !best | Dr_Willis
[00:01] <quickdraw> i don't know which client would work well for that.
[00:01] <Dr_Willis> fccf:  i never said what was best. :P
[00:02] <FactTech> PhotoJIm -- I think maybe it *is* part of the ncpfs package, which is in the jaunty and intrepid repositories. You definitely should look into this.
[00:02]  * fccf re directs question to quickdraw
[00:02] <Barridus> aspect ratios are goofed up for videos in totem, anyone have an idea of a fix?
[00:02] <FactTech> PhotoJim -- thanks for providing the extra impetus to keep looking. Hope it helps.
[00:02] <mib_l21ek9nh> I try to play Warsow and it crashes to my desktop with a low resolution should I install the ATI driver form the ATI website?
[00:03] <Eroick1> does the ATI Mobility Radeon 3470 work well on linux? how is batttery life with it?
[00:03] <cheeseman> does anyone know how to spoff there phone number with a modem so there phone number is different?
[00:03] <cheeseman> ?
[00:04] <Dr_Willis> Eroick1:  i wouls say check the forums.. personally i would avoide any ATI if its possible.
[00:04] <fccf> Eroick: you might ask the question in #hardware
[00:04] <Eroick1> alright, thanks fccf
[00:04] <mac-wilson> Hello
[00:04] <fccf> !hi
[00:05] <fresh_prince> Hello, I am trying to do a simple make file, but it just seems to execute the first command, ideas ?
[00:05] <mac-wilson> Can someone help me with installing ALSA upgrades for Ubuntu 8.10 ?  I've downloaded all of the latest (1.20) packages.  But I do not know how to go about upgrading, etc.
[00:05] <Ablonus> fresh_prince, makefiles are almost never simple :-(
[00:06] <fccf> !worksforme
[00:06] <Ablonus> You probably need a dependence
[00:06] <fccf> mac-wilson: that said is there a reason you need to upgrade --- sound troubles?
[00:06] <fresh_prince> Ablonus: can you please check this out ? http://paste.ubuntu.com/191188/
[00:07] <linxeh> fresh_prince: did you use tabs or spaces?
[00:07] <dma_> can i use xchat in windows
[00:07] <mac-wilson> yes fccf :) .I added "options snd-hda-intel model=imac24" to the end of /etc/modeprobe.d/alsa-base. Then when i rebooted, I changed my Sound Device to Realtek ALC889A (OSS Mixer).
[00:07] <mac-wilson> That did the trick for the no sound problem, but only for the internal speakers.
[00:08] <mac-wilson> Even with my headphones plugged in or unplugged the sound always comes out of the internal speakers, and never from headphones.
[00:08] <diego_> Hi, I have a problem, when I try to open a pdf file from a CD the document viewer  returns an error message. When I try to copy one of these files on the hardrive I get another error message "Couldn't read the file" or something like that. The files are OK because I can open them under windows and Ubuntu 8.10 used to open them no problem (I upgraded to Jaunty recently). What am I missing here? Any ideas?
[00:08] <linxeh> diego_: the cd has got smudged or scratched
[00:08] <mac-wilson> I did a bit of research and saw another person who had the same computer, problem, etc as me.  But his version of ALSA was more updated, mine is only 1.17.  I figured that might be the problem.
[00:09] <cabrey> diego_, can you copy them in windows?
[00:09] <Ablonus> fresh_prince, I'm not an expert but you could maybe put "all: example_smooth hello_world" at the top then make all
[00:09] <mac-wilson> fccf , any ideas?
[00:09] <diego_> linxeh: The CD is shiny and smooth
[00:09] <fresh_prince> Ablonus: ok thanks :D
[00:09] <Ablonus> The "all:" line is intended to include the other build targets
[00:09] <fccf> mac-wilson: imac ... is that on a mac?
[00:09] <diego_> cabrey: I could try
[00:09] <aaditya> diego_: are other CDs working well on your machine?
[00:09] <mac-wilson> yes ;).  I have Intel iMac 7,1
[00:10] <Ablonus> IIRC make on its own will make the first target specified in the file
[00:10] <cabrey> diego_, if you can copy them to a flash drive or access your windows partition from within ubuntu
[00:10] <fccf> mac-wilson: nvidia or intel graphics
[00:10] <diego_> aaditya: Yeah, I have problems only with pdf
[00:10] <cabrey> diego_, you could install Adobe Acrobat Reader
[00:10] <mac-wilson> ATI Radeon 2400 XT
[00:10] <aaditya> diego_: only one particular PDF file? or all PDFs?
[00:10] <linxeh> diego_: what happens when you copy the files on the command line ?
[00:10] <mac-wilson> but just google Intel iMac 7,1
[00:11] <linxeh> diego_: the fact you cant copy them worries me... it suggests the disc is faulty
[00:11] <diego_> linxeh: all pdf I tried have the same problem
[00:11] <cabrey> diego_, try Adobe Reader
[00:11] <diego_> linxeh: didn't try the command line. I'll try that
[00:11] <aaditya> diego_: try navigating to the CD drive using the terminal and then execute `cp filename.pdf /tmp/`
[00:12] <aaditya> diego_: let's see what it outputs
[00:12] <diego_> cabrey: can I install it with apt-get¿
[00:12] <ruler> what is the use of the ehiga softphone
[00:12] <cabrey> diego_, yes, just enable the canonical repository
[00:12] <axisys> !quicktime
[00:12] <aaditya> !ekiga | ruler
[00:13] <mac-wilson> fccf ?
[00:14] <fccf> mac-wilson: there haven't been any reports for jaunty on ubuntu forums...yet for the imac 7.1 ... you might go ahead with the upgrade.. it might have even been fixed in jaunty...as i understand it
[00:14] <hipitihop> I have some NFS mounts and they time out, forcing me to run 'mount -a' to get access again, what causes this time out ? or how do I preventit ?
[00:14] <ingcomrbr> ruler: I use ekiga to make some calls with Asterisk.
[00:14] <Ablonus> Is there an appropriate channel to ask about mysql database issues?
[00:14] <fccf> mac-wilson: do you need a walk through?
[00:14] <mac-wilson> fccf: i'm sticking with 8.10 for now.  but, what terminal commands do i use to upgrade ALSA?
[00:15] <ingcomrbr> It is a good softphone..
[00:15] <mac-wilson> i guess you could call that a need for a walk through ;)
[00:15] <diego_> aaditya: When I try to copy it to /tmp I get an input/output error
[00:15] <hipitihop> ingcomrbr: sorry to but it, but is there an asterisk irc channel, I want to learn more to see if I should consider running it at home
[00:16] <fccf> mac-wilson: you'll need to download the debs for the version of alsa that you want to install then install them with dpkg or Gdebi
[00:16] <aaditya> Ablonus: #mysql
[00:17] <diego_> aaditya: The files have long names like "Hamermesh - Group Theory and its Application to Physical Problems.djvu"
[00:17] <mac-wilson> fccf:  I just want to make sure that I downloaded  the right debs?  With me in my Downloads folder are alsa-driver,firmware,lib,plugins,tools,utils,pyalsa.  all of which are version 1.0.20, and all of which end in tar.bz2 .
[00:17] <mjmac> hipitihop: have you tried #asterisk?
[00:17] <aaditya> diego_: file names shouldn't be a problem. it appears to be a difficulty reading the disc
[00:18] <axisys> how do I play apple quicktime in ff ?
[00:18] <Luna> oii alguem pode me ajudar???
[00:18] <Ablonus> aaditya, OK thanks. Sorry to ask an obvious question - my first time here
[00:18] <sebsebseb> !quictime |  axisys
[00:18] <cheeseman> how do you extract exe files to use in ubutu?
[00:18] <sebsebseb> !quicktime |  axisys
[00:18] <aaditya> sebsebseb: he's already read that...
[00:19] <axisys> aaditya: thanks
[00:19] <sebsebseb> axisys: have you got the restricted extras?
[00:19] <Mike_lifeguard> I'm still having trouble with my wired network. I can connect to the router wirelessly just fine - but for wired connections, no DHCPOFFER is returned. Any suggestions for config errors I've made?
[00:19] <axisys> i still need the ff portion covered
[00:19] <axisys> sebsebseb: yes
[00:19] <aaditya> !wine | cheeseman
[00:19] <diego_> aaditya: Hmm... I'll see if I can copy them under win
[00:19] <sebsebseb> axisys: mplayer I think could do quicktime maybe
[00:19] <mac-wilson> fccf, which of the installers do you recommend for Ubuntu beginners: dpkg or Gdebi?
[00:19] <diego_> aaditya: Thanks
[00:19] <cheeseman> you can exract the exe source code and run it under linux format
[00:20] <diego_> cabrey: thanks
[00:20] <axisys> sebsebseb: how do I tell ff to play it with mplayer when clicking the video in apple site? it just says get quicktime
[00:20] <fccf> mac-wilson: those files haven't been tested ... you may want to be careful
[00:20] <diego_> linxeh: thanks
[00:20] <cabrey> diego_, did it work?
[00:20] <Wavesonics> whats the package with the OpenGL devel headers? (GL.h ect)
[00:20] <aaditya> axisys: did you check medibuntu?
[00:21] <axisys> aaditya: i got all medibuntu pkgs as explained in that url
[00:21] <mac-wilson> Hmm.  I only have ALSA 1.0.17, and the person who has the same computer type as me (Intel iMac 7,1) had ALSA 1.0.19.  Oddly enough, after rebooting his computer his headphones had sound.
[00:21] <hipitihop> mjmac: no, only started reading about it yesterday
[00:21] <aaditya> axisys: and then restarted the browser?
[00:21] <cheeseman> i dont know how to get alsa to work so i used a diferent sound card
[00:21] <fccf> mac-wilson: have you updated to the latest versions system wide... using the updater or synaptic... these may have the fix you need
[00:22] <axisys> aaditya: nawp.. ok let me try that
[00:22] <mac-wilson> no. i'll check with Update Manager
[00:22] <Mike_lifeguard> How would one force re-installation using apt-get?
[00:22] <mac-wilson> My system is up to date, accordin to Update Manager
[00:22] <cabrey> Wavesonics, sudo aptitude install build-essential x-window-system-dev should do it
[00:23] <fccf> mac-wilson: did you run "check"
[00:23] <cheeseman> apt-get uninstall then use apt-get install
[00:23] <axisys> aaditya: still says get the quicktime http://www.apple.com/iphone/guidedtour/#medium
[00:23] <cabrey> Wavesonics, hold up, wrong package oops
[00:23] <Vitus> I hate to interrupt, but is there a channel gear toward fixing NVIDIA issues?
[00:23] <cabrey> Wavesonics,  xserver-xorg-dev
[00:23] <mac-wilson> i just did; it downloaded 42 items.
[00:24] <Mike_lifeguard> cheeseman: I tried that, but seeing as I'm trying to reinstall network-manager and network-manager-gnome, I won't be able to reinstall, since I won't have connectivity
[00:24] <aaditya> !nvidia | Vitus
[00:24] <cheeseman> when do they plan on making a verson of ubutu that works with all of macintosh computer drivers?
[00:24] <Vitus> Thanks
[00:24] <mac-wilson> wait no, it "checked" the restoration or something
[00:24] <aaditya> Vitus: there's also a channel #nvidia
[00:25] <kikov> anybody knows how to solve subversion http schema problema on karmic?
[00:25] <kikov> I tried to recompile, but it seems difficult
[00:25] <fccf> mac-wilson: that was just the database of all updates
[00:25] <aaditya> !anyone | kikov
[00:25] <aaditya> kikov: what is the problem?
[00:26] <kikov> it seems the remote access  neon is disabled
[00:26] <fccf> kikov: that is a question for #ubuntu+1 as karmic hasn't been released
[00:26] <kikov> the check in the ./configure script of subversion is quite strict, and it seems it need a concrete version of libneon
[00:26] <kikov> ok..
[00:26] <cabrey> kikov, /join #ubuntu+1
[00:26] <kikov> I'm in
[00:26] <kikov> thanks
[00:27] <mac-wilson> So my system IS up do date, yes?
[00:27] <mac-wilson> to*
[00:27] <kikov> mm, I have seem the same question in the logs today... no answer :(
[00:27] <aaditya> mac-wilson: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[00:28] <hipitihop> can anyone tell my NFS mounts timeout and have to be re-mounted ?
[00:28] <aaditya> !nfs | hipitihop
[00:29] <fccf> mac-wilson:I am seeing the correct location for options snd-hda-intel model=imac24 is here  /etc/modprobe.d/options you said alsa-base, is that right?
[00:29] <mac-wilson> fccf: yes, that is correct.
[00:29] <mac-wilson> fccf: wait hold on let me make sure
[00:29] <fccf> mac-wilson you may also need to blacklist the rtl driver
[00:30] <hipitihop> aaditya: thnkd, I used that guide to setup my mounts but I did not see anything about why they time out and how to prevent that
[00:30] <Paddy_EIRE> hipitihop: you may also want to read this http://www.faqs.org/docs/linux_network/x-087-2-nfs.mountd.html
[00:30] <mac-wilson> fccf:  I added "options snd-hda-intel model=imac24" to the end of /etc/modeprobe.d/alsa-base.
[00:31] <fccf> mac-wilson: search alsa-base for rtl and comment it out
[00:31] <mac-wilson> ok
[00:31] <progre55> hi people! do you guys know why, while playing CS under linux, my sound all of a sudden disappears? "00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 01)"
[00:32] <SpinacZ> Helllo, anybody know how to change tsocks server ip faster? I dont want edit file all times, please answer me
[00:32] <hipitihop> Paddy_EIRE: thanks reading your link.... I trust you realize my mounts work fine but sometimes I come to my machine and they are gone foorcing me to run 'mount -a'. I'm not talking about the mount taking a long time and eventually timing out
[00:32] <cheeseman> simple you dont SpinacZ
[00:32] <aaditya> progre55: assuming that you're using wine, your question belongs to #winehq
[00:32] <progre55> aaditya, oh I see. thanks :)
[00:32] <Paddy_EIRE> progre55: you would have to check the winehq website for information regarding bugs with CS.. there is also a #winehq channel
[00:33] <Paddy_EIRE> hipitihop: oh the mounts time out
[00:33] <progre55> Paddy_EIRE, thanks )
[00:33] <SpinacZ> cheeseman: any other ways?
[00:33] <Paddy_EIRE> hipitihop: could anything here be of use http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-646805.html
[00:33] <Paddy_EIRE> progre55: any time :)
[00:33] <axisys> aaditya, sebsebseb : i was missing mozilla-mplayer
[00:33] <axisys> doh!
[00:33] <cheeseman> its just because your internet is caped it is not the aplaction
[00:34] <cheeseman> program
[00:34] <mac-wilson> fccf:  i'm just wondering, what will the command look like?  will it have the letters "rtl" in it?
[00:34] <aaditya> axisys: glad you figured it out
[00:34] <sebsebseb> axisys: yeah that will be it
[00:34] <fccf> mac-wilson give me a few min - i am reading somthing regarding your question ... I should have more answers in it
[00:34] <mac-wilson> okay thank you.
[00:35] <SpinacZ> cheeseman: but when I want use other proxy can i make this faster without editing? I dont know whay you mean
[00:35] <Paddy_EIRE> hipitihop: this also looks very informative http://www.ubuntugeek.com/nfs-server-and-client-configuration-in-ubuntu.html
[00:35] <cheeseman> then dont use proxy just uncap your internet if you can figure it out
[00:35] <cheeseman> server
[00:36] <fernando_> ae
[00:36] <fernando_> salve
[00:36] <fernando_> rs
[00:36] <Pici> !br | fernando_
[00:36] <SpinacZ> cheeseman: but i most use proxy sometimes,
[00:36] <Wavesonics> how is apt-p2p? Basically torrenting for packages?
[00:36] <cheeseman> \you can use it without proxy server
[00:36] <fernando_> to indo nessa
[00:37] <fernando_> flw
[00:37] <aaditya> !apt-torrent | Wavesonics
[00:37] <cheeseman> try http://proxy:8080
[00:38] <commodore256> What do you think of jaunty with Intel drivers? I think it sucks, I can't use blender.
[00:38] <SpinacZ> cheeseman: I think you dont understnad what i want ;)
[00:38] <matt_ubuntu> hey, i did the install as an application from the CD i burnt.  how do i acess it from there?
[00:38] <Wavesonics> so what is apt-p2p?
[00:38] <Pici> !intel | commodore256 please take a look
[00:38] <matt_ubuntu> hey, i did the install as an application from the CD i burnt.  how do i acess it from there?
[00:38] <aaditya> hi pici, wats up?
[00:38] <aaditya> !repeat | matt_ubuntu
[00:39] <SpinacZ> cheeseman: for ex. i have proxy list, and whant use in console ex for ssh/telnet... when i was using ssh tunnel (ssh -D port host) i was using tsocks, but when have a list of proxys changing all times is tired
[00:39] <aaditya> matt_ubuntu: are you running Ubuntu inside windows?
[00:39] <commodore256> So you're basically telling me "RTFM".
[00:39] <matt_ubuntu> yes, i am
[00:39] <hoohaah> hi guys. is there a way to find out when a package was last installed or updated?
[00:39] <commodore256> lol
[00:39] <hoohaah> ie, return a time?
[00:39] <Paddy_EIRE> !language | commodore256
[00:39] <Pici> commodore256: I'm asking you to take a look at the release notes as they speicifcally mention an issue with intel graphics.
[00:39] <tj83> can someone tell me how to start an application from terminal with a set window geometry size say 1860x1050 -geometry does not work.
[00:40] <commodore256> The "F" in "RTFM" could mean "Freaking".
[00:40] <hoohaah> Fine
[00:40] <Dr_Willis> tj83:  only some X apps take that sort of arguments.
[00:40] <Paddy_EIRE> commodore256: all the same
[00:40] <aaditya> !ot | commodore256
[00:40] <Dr_Willis> tj83:  there may be some other tools to force apps to be specific sizes
[00:40] <Dr_Willis> tj83:  but i cant rember any of them. :) devilspie might be one.
[00:41] <tj83> I run dual monitor 22" LCD's  I only want extremetuxracer to which is an X application, only on one screen in a set window, it defaults to full screen which is both screens.
[00:41] <tj83> ty Dr_Willis
[00:41] <Wavesonics> !apt-p2p | Wavesonics
[00:41] <fccf> mac-wilson: you probably have read this ... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBook5-1/Jaunty?highlight=(\bCategoryMac\b) --- for the macbook 5-1 - they haven't written a comprehensive guide yet for the 7-1 ... 2/3 of the way down the page is the sound section... depending on exactly what you have.. versions are differrent ... you can check exactly what your hardware is by typing- sudo dmidecode -s system-product-name ... aslo look at l
[00:41] <hoohaah> tj83: consult http://azundris.com/hacks/scripts/xstartup
[00:42] <aaditya> !info apt-p2p | Wavesonics
[00:42] <hoohaah> tj83: reading it may be of more value than using it
[00:42] <tj83> ty hoohaah
[00:42] <hipitihop> Paddy_EIRE: thanks for the links but neither addresses my problem.
[00:42] <Sargun> Would here be the best place to ask about apport?
[00:42] <aaditya> !ask | sagu
[00:43] <aaditya> !ask | Sargun
[00:43] <Paddy_EIRE> hipitihop: all that I can suggest is further googling and searching the ubuntuforums
[00:43] <Ablonus> Guys, is there an IRC service beginner's guide? The #mysql channel seems inactive but maybe I need to register or something.
[00:43] <Pici> !register | Ablonus
[00:43] <Sargun> aaditya, I know about that. I'm just asking if this is the right place.
[00:43] <Sargun> How does apport interact with headlessness?
[00:43] <Ablonus> ubottu, thanks
[00:43] <Pici> Sargun: Depending on the problem, either here or #ubuntu-bugs
[00:44] <Oven1> I need some help getting Ubuntu 9.04 to display properly.  It is detecting my monitor incorrectly
[00:44] <mac-wilson> "sudo dmidecode -s system-product-name" gives iMac7,1
[00:44] <hipitihop> Paddy_EIRE: thanks, I am surprised nobody has experienced this as I find the same behaviour on two ubuntu boxes. anyway, thanks for trying
[00:44] <Sargun> how do I make apport automatically update traces to my server in a headless environment?
[00:44] <aaditya> Ablonus: i doubt if you need to register or something. what's your query anyways?
[00:44] <fccf> mac-wilson ... don't paste lspci here
[00:44] <cheeseman> is there any torrent programs for linux that use seeds?
[00:44] <al7ds> cw=Z]Q"I*SmFJ
[00:45] <Pici> aaditya: Actually they do require registration
[00:45] <hoohaah> tj83: oops sorry. I'd forgotten where I was
[00:45] <Paddy_EIRE> hipitihop: yeah normally there would be a few users perhaps with the same problem.. but I must admit it is the first I have heard of it
[00:45] <aaditya> Pici: i see
[00:45] <Paddy_EIRE> hipitihop: sorry I could not be more help
[00:45] <Oven1> My display can do 1280x720 and that is not showing up
[00:45] <Oven1> How do I add it
[00:45] <al7ds> cw=Z]PHN<PHNPP5M`S{E9
[00:45] <Pici> al7ds: stop
[00:45] <al7ds> cw=Z]P5NRP5O/P@NOSFC?P[
[00:45] <Ablonus> aaditya, I have a problem with repeated mysql table corruption
[00:45] <al7ds> cw=Z]R&NcP2NoPTMVPJIZQ'NPS3N~
[00:45] <Paddy_EIRE> !fixres | Oven1
[00:45] <al7ds> cw=Z]NsP5NPRsNQPINWPFLCR?NFR-N=PI
[00:45] <al7ds> cw=Z]P,NXP2NGPTLPR9NEPGNGPILLP<NOPIN.
[00:45] <al7ds> cx=Z]Ht~;3
[00:45] <FloodBot1> al7ds: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:45] <hoohaah> tj83: you can use something like devilspie (in Gnome) to fix sizes of apps that you frequently use
[00:45] <aaditya> !ops
[00:45] <aaditya> oh there
[00:46] <Barridus> is it possible to set up a scenario that a laptop automatically disables desktop effects when unplugged from AC?
[00:46] <aaditya> i should have waited..
[00:46] <infl1> 3
[00:46] <Barridus> and then re-enables upon plugging in again?
[00:46] <hoohaah> tj83: you can also specify which workspaces you'd like the process sent to; whether or not it has window decorations; etc
[00:46] <aaditya> Barridus: you can write simple power-manager scripts
[00:46] <hoohaah> tj83: IIRC, there's an Ubuntu guide on setting it up that's rather straightforward
[00:46] <aaditya> Barridus: quite possible
[00:47] <mac-wilson> fccf:  should i try the "Full Sound Support" from the link: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBook5-1/Jaunty?highlight=(\bCategoryMac\b) ?
[00:47] <Oven1> ubottu: I was reading that and it doesnt seem to change
[00:47] <DarkRavin> how can i set up my dsl to run faster with Ubuntu
[00:47] <tj83> hoohaah, thats alot of information... should get me fixed up... many thanks
[00:47] <Oven1> does it matter if I have an NVIDIA card?
[00:47] <hoohaah> np
[00:48] <Paddy_EIRE> Oven1: have you installed the restricted drivers for your card?
[00:48] <aaditya> !nvidia | Oven1
[00:48] <Oven1> Yeah
[00:48] <Oven1> Let me go give that a shot
[00:49] <Oven1> Some reason it is seeing my display wrong and doesnt give me the proper resolution
[00:50] <Barridus> aaditya, COOL
[00:50] <Barridus> oops caps
[00:50] <jascase901> I am trying to install wine and I keep getting  wine: Depends: libasound2 (> 1.0.18) but 1.0.17a-0ubuntu4 is to be installed
[00:51] <jascase901> any suggestions
[00:51] <jascase901> I tried to install that package but it says i already have the newest version
[00:52] <cheeseman> aplacations add remove programs
[00:53] <DarkRavin> can anybody help me with how i can set up my dsl to run faster with Ubuntu
[00:53] <aaditya> !wine | jascase901
[00:53] <aaditya> !dsl | DarkRavin
[00:53] <bastidrazor> jascase901, are you on intrepid or jaunty?
[00:53] <Leolo_3> howdy howdy
[00:53] <jascase901> im on intpred
[00:53] <DarkRavin> tks
[00:53] <jascase901> intrepid
[00:54] <Leolo_3> question : why does sound work for user A, but not for user B
[00:54] <bastidrazor> jascase901, .18 is for jaunty.. possibly try enabling proposed repo
[00:54] <aaditya> Leolo_3: we'd appreciate it if you could make it more straight forward..
[00:54] <jascase901> Ok, but wheres the repo?
[00:55] <Paddy_EIRE> !details | Leolo_3
[00:55] <bastidrazor> jascase901, in synaptic you can enable it
[00:55] <Oven1> when I type xrandr --output LVDS --mode 1280x720 nothing happens why?
[00:55] <ge0rge007> hello!
[00:55] <jascase901> kk hold on im looking
[00:55] <ctmjr> Leolo_3, try adding user b to audio group
[00:55] <cheeseman> maybe its because the settings are different in each account
[00:55] <KageFever> could someone help me out? my eSATA drive won't show up using fdisk -l or in gparted, its ntfs if that helps.
[00:56] <aaditya> Oven1: nothing?
[00:56] <Oven1> Nothing happens
[00:56] <Oven1> Display stays the same
[00:56] <bastidrazor> jascase901, settings>updates .. 3rd one down
[00:56] <Oven1> I had added the new mode
[00:56] <jascase901> kk thanks
[00:56] <ge0rge007> could anyone tell me the difference between : "sed '/^$/d' file" and "sed '/^ *$/d' file"?
[00:56] <Leolo_3> I have a problem with SOUND, I'm running Ubuntu version lenny/sid, When I try to do (start the sound volume applet, run amarok, run totem) I get the following output: silence, but I expect it to do (play sounds from the laptop's speakers)
[00:57] <aaditya> Oven1: did you restart the X server after adding the new mode?
[00:57] <nsahoo> new to debian/ubuntu here. why are there normally two apt urls that we add ? one deb the other deb-source?
[00:57] <KageFever> could someone help me out? my eSATA drive won't show up using fdisk -l or in gparted, its ntfs if that helps.
[00:57] <Paddy_EIRE> Leolo_3: ubuntu is not debian
[00:57] <Oven1> No i did not do that
[00:57] <Pricey> nsahoo: deb gives the binaries which is used to instal the programs ready to run. deb-src lets you get the human readable source code so that you can make changes to create your own binaries.
[00:57] <jascase901> bastidrazor: its enabled already should i just upgrade?
[00:57] <Oven1> Dumb question how do I restart the xserver... I have used ctrl +alt+backspace
[00:57] <Oven1> in the past  but that doesnt work here
[00:58] <aaditya> Oven1: that keyboard shortcut basically kills the x-server
[00:58] <Rabbitbunny> it stopped working, you have to set a flag.
[00:58] <bastidrazor> jascase901, do you have the backports checked also?
[00:58] <aaditya> to restart it, log out and the login
[00:58] <cheeseman> ctl+alt+del
[00:58] <aaditya> cheeseman: NOPE
[00:58] <nsahoo> Pricey: is there an easy way to compile from deb-src to executable ?
[00:58] <KageFever> could someone help me out? my eSATA drive won't show up using fdisk -l or in gparted, its ntfs if that helps.
[00:58] <Pricey> !source | nsahoo
[00:58] <aaditya> !x | oven1
[00:58] <unop> ge0rge007, both allow for an empty line to be deleted - except the latter one allows for zero-or-more whitespace characters to be matched too.
[00:58] <nsahoo> thanks
[00:59] <jascase901> bastidrazor: no they are unchecked right now
[00:59] <ripps> Is there someway to thumbnail my video files without tracker, tracker is has been giving me trouble from day 1 with high cpu spikes, regardless of what settings in it's config. I want to uninstall it, but doing so makes my videos stop thumbnailing
[00:59] <Leolo_3> paddy : i have ubuntu studio installed.  I'm getting my versino info from /etc/debian_version.
[00:59]  * jascase901 im checking if i put the wrong source in
[00:59] <Paddy_EIRE> Leolo_3: ah I see
[00:59] <bastidrazor> jascase901, i'm not sure if adding that repo will get it but it is possible.
[00:59] <ge0rge007> could anyone tell me the difference between : "sed '/^$/d' file" and "sed '/^ *$/d' file"?
[00:59] <nsahoo> I am trying to install eclipse 3.4 version. It is available at https://launchpad.net/~eclipse-team/+archive/ppa
[00:59] <Oven1> logging out and back in just takes me back to the wrong display
[00:59] <aaditya> Leolo_3: cat /proc/version
[00:59] <jascase901> bastidrazor:  im checking if i put the wrong source in thanks for your help
[01:00] <unop> ge0rge007, I answered your question
[01:00] <nsahoo> but, when I add the given deb and deb-src urls even then I don't see the eclipse 3.4 package
[01:00] <bastidrazor> jascase901, good luck
[01:00] <aaditya> x > Oven1
[01:00] <aaditya> !x > Oven1
[01:00] <ge0rge007> ohh thanks! Sorry i didn't see it!
[01:00] <newbier> Hi there, i installed jaunty 9.04 and power-manager doesnt recognize my laptop battery , i have been searching in google for a while but i didnt find. anything
[01:00] <jascase901> bastidrazor: thanks i think i got it
[01:00] <newbier> any help?
[01:01] <Leolo_3> ctmjr++ had the right answer,
[01:01] <bastidrazor> jascase901, backports gave it to you?
[01:01] <Paddy_EIRE> newbier: What is your laptop model?
[01:01] <ge0rge007> you are the best upon!
[01:01] <newbier> HP G7000
[01:01] <ge0rge007> thanks really much!
[01:01] <nsahoo> is there a way to install ecilpse-3.4 on ubuntu ?
[01:01] <R45C4L> anyone here from India who has used Reliance netconnect CDMA usb card ??
[01:02] <R45C4L> off course on 9.04
[01:03] <Oven1> I think the problem is that it is detecting my monitor incorrectly.  How do I change the monitor that is detected xrandr is not doing anything for me
[01:03] <aaditya> nsahoo: download eclipse from the official website, extract it to /usr/local/lib and then run it from there
[01:04] <aaditya> nsahoo: eclipse 3.5 worked well for me, so you might want to try that too
[01:04] <bernz> i'm running jaunty; the upgrade went off without a hitch, even with my ATI special drivers and so on, but... a few months later (now), i recently upgraded various crap i don't even need (cups, etc), and after a restart, my desktop size settings got munged somewhere, somehow. my logical desktop size is now larger than my physical one (they used to match, at 1368x768); one more thing: before the reboot, i had tried 1920x1080 resolution for the first time. ide
[01:04] <bernz> as?
[01:04] <nsahoo> aaditya: i was looking for the official way
[01:05] <samd> hi, how can i make evolution to display all inbox from multiples accounts in a common folder using imap?
[01:05] <Paddy_EIRE> newbier: what do you mean exactly by the power manager does not recognise your battery?
[01:05] <aaditya> nsahoo: the one in the repositories is 3.2; that's the only official way
[01:05] <nsahoo> aaditya: i guess. what is new in 3.5 from 3.4?
[01:05] <ripps> Is there someway to thumbnail my video files without tracker, tracker is has been giving me trouble from day 1 with high cpu spikes, regardless of what settings in it's config. I want to uninstall it, but doing so makes my videos stop thumbnailing
[01:05] <newbier> Paddy_EIRE, it always say Computer is running on AC power, even if im on battery
[01:05] <bernz> oh, when i said i had been running jaunty for some months, i think i exaggerated; anyway, i upgraded very shortly after it was available.
[01:06] <cheeseman> does the computer run unpluged?
[01:06] <chalcedony> is there anywhere to go for help with PsyBNC ?
[01:06] <Paddy_EIRE> newbier: have you tried leaving it off ac power for an extended period of time to see if this changes
[01:06] <newbier> Paddy_EIRE, no, going to do it now, thanks
[01:07] <Megaf> FFForever, did you ask
[01:07] <Paddy_EIRE> newbier: everything seems to work fine with that particular laptop I cannot find a duplicate of your problem so far.. although I will keep searching
[01:07] <aaditya> !anybody | chalcedony
[01:07] <newbier> Paddy_EIRE, thank you
[01:07] <Paddy_EIRE> newbier: no problem :)
[01:07] <aaditya> nsahoo: 3.5's update manager rocks
[01:07] <padge> Does anyone know where application data generated by a flash program will be stored on an Ubuntu system?
[01:08] <jascase901> bastidrazor: I put in the wrong repo originally
[01:08] <nsahoo> aaditya: ya? where do I download it from ? I am seeing only 3.4 at eclipse.org
[01:08] <nsahoo> aaditya: got it
[01:08] <Megaf> padge, what kind of data
[01:08] <jascase901> bastidrazor: But i wouldnt have saw had you not sent me to my sources screen
[01:08] <Megaf> and what kind of application
[01:08] <padge> Just values, for persistence
[01:08] <chalcedony> aaditya: or anyone, i'm on a PsyBNC, i'm having problems with "Excess Flood" as it tries to connect to the network, I must be doing something wrong.. but what and how can I get it to connect properly to more than one network?
[01:09] <padge> in this case, a game.
[01:09] <bastidrazor> jascase901, cool, glad i could help
[01:09] <nasht> Hi
[01:09] <padge> How is flash run on Linux?
[01:09] <padge> Does Adobe make the binaries?
[01:10] <cheeseman> is it posible to run 4 operating syems on the same computer but be diplayed on  4 different screens?
[01:10] <cheeseman> all at once
[01:10] <aaditya> !flash > padge
[01:10] <ryuk> virtual box?
[01:10] <mjmac> cheeseman: http://www.vmware.com/
[01:10] <chalcedony> aaditya: or anyone, i'm on a PsyBNC, i'm having problems with "Excess Flood" as it tries to connect to the network, Where can I go to ask, or can anyone help me?
[01:10] <aaditya> padge: yeah, adobe distributes them
[01:10] <ryuk> cheeseman: I think virtual box can do this.
[01:10] <aaditya> !repeat | chalcedony
[01:10] <nasht> I upgraded from 8.10 to 9.04, then my internet stopped working. It says that I have a network connexion (wired), but can't connect to anything. When I boot into Windows, works fine.
[01:11] <Oven1> OK I think I found out what I was doing wron
[01:11] <Oven1> g
[01:11] <Dr_Willis> cheeseman:  virtualbox could do it - if you had the ram.
[01:11] <padge> aaditya, Where does Flash's per-user application data go?
[01:11] <stdruseren> does anyone know a site that talks about how to protect from intruders in windows trying to figure out the admin password?
[01:11] <chalcedony> aaditya: do you do that for fun or to look cool or something? i rephrased my query,
[01:11] <Oven1> I can get the display to change using xrandr
[01:11] <Oven1> I added my new mode
[01:11] <Oven1> but it will not switch to the new mode
[01:12] <Oven1> It says that it cannot find the mode
[01:12] <Oven1> If I restart X then I lose the settings I have added
[01:12] <aaditya> !flood > Oven1
[01:12] <newbier> Paddy_EIRE, there is anyway to check if ubuntu recognize the battery, as a terminal command?
[01:12] <aaditya> padge: somewhere in your home directory, under .mozilla perhaps
[01:12] <Paddy_EIRE> newbier: just a moment
[01:13] <Leolo_3> Linux version 2.6.22-14-rt (buildd@terranova) (gcc version 4.1.3 20070929 (prerelease) (Ubuntu 4.1.2-16ubuntu2)) #1 SMP PREEMPT RT Tue Feb 12 09:57:10 UTC 2008
[01:13] <orudie> hi, why is ubuntu netbook 950 mb ?
[01:13] <mjmac> !moo > mjmac
[01:13] <Paddy_EIRE> newbier: try "sudo acpi -b"
[01:14] <ryuk> When my laptop's batter is too low, my laptop simply shutdown directly, instead of suspend as I configured in Preference->Power
[01:14] <ryuk> When my laptop's battery is too low, my laptop simply shutdown directly, instead of suspend as I configured in Preference->Power
[01:14] <newbier> Paddy_EIRE,  acpi: command not found
[01:14] <nasht> is anyone available to help?
[01:14] <Paddy_EIRE> newbier: sudo apt-get install acpi
[01:14] <ryuk> When my laptop's battery is too low, my laptop simply shutdown directly, instead of suspend as I configured in Preference->Power, can any one help me with this? Thanks a lot!
[01:14] <aaditya> nasht: yes, someone is
[01:15] <commaCamel> I'm having a very frustrating problem that I wonder if anyone has experience with.  I've searched the forums and google and not found a solution.  I can load up and play some dvd's (specifically led zeppelin concert) but normal movie dvds are not auto recognized and will not manually mount?  anyone have any suggestions?
[01:15] <nasht> I upgraded from 8.10 to 9.04, then my internet stopped working. It says that I have a network connexion (wired), but can't connect to anything. When I boot into Windows, works fine.
[01:15] <newbier> Paddy_EIRE, doesnt give me any output
[01:15] <Paddy_EIRE> newbier: actually once acpi is installed just run "acpi -b"
[01:16] <newbier> Paddy_EIRE, same , doesnt give any output :/
[01:16] <Paddy_EIRE> newbier: just skips to the next line ?
[01:16] <ryuk> When my laptop's battery is too low, my laptop simply shutdown directly, instead of suspending as I configured in Preference->Power, can any one help me with this? Thanks a lot!
[01:16] <commaCamel> nasht: you are using wired ethernet i take it
[01:16] <newbier> Paddy_EIRE, yes
[01:16] <Paddy_EIRE> newbier: hmm.. strange
[01:17] <Paddy_EIRE> newbier: give me a moment I will take another look around
[01:17] <nasht> commaCamel: yes, Auto eth0
[01:17] <newbier> Paddy_EIRE, thanks alot
[01:17] <aaditya> !dvd | commaCamel
[01:17]  * rsc1988 guessing
[01:18] <grkblood13> is anyone running flumotion on jaunty
[01:18] <Um_cara_qualquer> folks, i was fooling around "gconf-editor"... somehow I desabled the right side numbers of keyboard... not even num lock enabled works, how do I fix it?
[01:19] <ryuk> exit
[01:19] <ryuk> quit
[01:19] <aaditya> ryuk: can i help you?
[01:20] <aaditya> he forgot the /
[01:20] <orudie> hi, why is ubuntu netbook 950 mb ?
[01:20] <commaCamel> aaditya: i've gone through both of those pages amongst many others, i have all packages installed that they suggest, some dvds work, it seems movie dvds will not (all dvds i have tried are commercial copies)
[01:21] <Gnea> orudie: have you read the website?
[01:21] <aaditya> Um_cara_qualquer: see if you could find that key and restore it. If you wish to reset the entire gconf registry, delete ~/.gconf2. Note that you'll lose most of the custom settings in gnome
[01:21] <aaditya> commaCamel: so none of the movie DVDs work?
[01:22] <Um_cara_qualquer> ah X_X
[01:22] <commaCamel> aaditya: correct
[01:22] <Um_cara_qualquer> shoot... i wish just fix this thing
[01:22] <Gnea> first requirement listed for the netbook installation: A 1GB USB flash drive (aka thumb drive)
[01:22] <Um_cara_qualquer> is there another way?
[01:22] <xiong> um, i'm trying to connect to a cell phone
[01:22] <Gnea> Um_cara_qualquer: what's the problem?
[01:23] <aaditya> Um_cara_qualquer: try to guess the key ;)
[01:23] <Gnea> xiong: how? for what?
[01:23] <nouri> Hello all.  I'm having a funny problem since my upgrade to Jaunty.
[01:23] <xiong> i can't seem to make a go of it either with a cable or through bluetooth
[01:23] <nouri> When I start JACK through qjackctl with no pulse-audio daemon running, someone or something decides to start pulseaudio just before that.
[01:23] <Um_cara_qualquer> the right numbers of my keyboard doesn't work
[01:23] <ctmjr> commaCamel,  you might need to do region set on your dvd drive try this if you have not done so https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs
[01:23] <mojo_> can some one show me how to git clone a branch? eg. I want to retrieve branch "2.17.5" of gnome-icon-theme
[01:23] <nouri> So that JACK will fail to startup.  I'm calling pulseaudio with /usr/bin/pulseaudio -k and I can see that there's no process until I start qjackctl -s.
[01:23] <aaditya> commaCamel: you need the medibuntu packages. try that if you haven't already
[01:23] <Gnea> Um_cara_qualquer: is NumLock turned on?
[01:24] <padge> aaditya, Groovy.  Thanks for your help.
[01:24] <Um_cara_qualquer> its a config problem... i just disabled it somehow... and i can't get it fix again
[01:24] <xiong> Gnea, i have two goals: (1) to download photos taken with the camera phone into my ubuntu laptop; (2) to use the cell phone as a internet connection for the laptop
[01:24] <Paddy_EIRE> newbier: may I ask how long you have had that laptop for?
[01:24] <Um_cara_qualquer> yes
[01:24] <Um_cara_qualquer> heehe
[01:24] <aaditya> !git | mojo
[01:24] <Gnea> xiong: okay. what phone is it?
[01:24] <newbier> Paddy_EIRE, 2 years
[01:24] <xiong> boost mobile motorola i776
[01:25] <Um_cara_qualquer> it's some gconf-editor problem that i changed
[01:25] <Gnea> what's boost mobile?
[01:25] <Paddy_EIRE> newbier: I am thinking that there may be problems with your battery itself
[01:25] <xiong> Gnea, the service carrier is boost -- the model is motorola
[01:25] <xiong> sorry for any confusion
[01:25] <newbier> Paddy_EIRE, ok thanks anyway
[01:25] <Gnea> xiong: most baby-bells don't support many of those functions
[01:26] <xiong> Gnea, i would like to see just what can be done
[01:26] <commaCamel> aaditya: so this may be a symptom, because when i run regionset with one of the dvds that do not work, regionset returns an error saying "could not open disc (null)" but when i run it with a dvd that is already working then regionset works fine
[01:26] <Paddy_EIRE> newbier: sorry I could not be more help
[01:26] <xiong> Gnea, so far, i'm not able to communicate anything from phone to laptop, although one of the packages i installed did appear to communicate on some level
[01:27] <eX|Eddie> hello
[01:27] <Romulus_> I've burned an ISO with ImgBurn, I downloaded the image from the Ubuntu official site, version 9.04-i386. I can't seem to get my machine to read the image.
[01:27] <nasht> anyone can help with my network connexion?
[01:27] <xiong> Gnea, sorry, that's confusing -- i mean, no user data exchanged but the laptop recognized the phone through the cable -- still no bluetooth
[01:27] <webbs02> :P
[01:28] <bluejeans> Romulus_,  bios set to book cd drive? or how are you tryin to boot?
[01:28] <bluejeans> *boot
[01:28] <Gnea> xiong: makes sense, i've done it with a razr before (made by motorola) and the process can be a bit odd at times
[01:29] <Romulus_> bluejeans: I disabled the HDD and set the CD drive to boot first. With the HDD enabled, I get an NLTDR missing error, a remnant of Windows.
[01:29] <xiong> Gnea, i installed several mobile phone packages; the only one i've made any progress with is 'wammu'
[01:29] <Gnea> xiong: used to be they wouldn't let me browse it, nowadays it works fine... as for using it as a wireless modem, that definitely works, once the usb device is setup correctly
[01:29] <bluejeans> Romulus_,  check md5 sums?
[01:29] <carlitos> #ubuntu-es
[01:30] <bluejeans> ... to be sure of a good burn
[01:30] <xiong> i don't understand any of this -- what is a bluetooth address and where would i discover it?
[01:30] <Gnea> xiong: a bluetooth address is like a mac address - it identifies the device
[01:31] <Romulus_> Bluejeans: ImgBurn checks the data on disk with the CD. I wonder, does Vista have a utility to display the checksum?
[01:31] <xiong> Gnea, so i suppose, i should be able to get that info out of one of the phone menus
[01:31] <bluejeans> Romulus_, never used vista... i'm clueless on windows. sorry
[01:32] <Gnea> xiong: no, you need to install bluez-utils and use the cli util to get it (can't remember what it's called)
[01:32] <Gnea> !bluetooth
[01:32] <Polarina> When can I expect getting gcc-4.4?
[01:32] <Gnea> ah-ha - hcitool dev
[01:32]  * xiong looks
[01:32] <Gnea> Polarina: when it's ready
[01:33] <Polarina> Gnea: Isn't it?
[01:33] <Gnea> Polarina: not seeing it in the current repository, so no
[01:33] <Polarina> Gnea: That's why I asked.
[01:33] <Gnea> Polarina: might want to check with the 9.10 people in #ubuntu+1
[01:34] <Gnea> Polarina: they have all of the latest & greatest ubuntuisms
[01:35] <ryuk> s
[01:35] <xiong> Gnea, i'm at the synaptic package manager -- so long as i'm here, anything else i should install?
[01:35] <Gnea> Polarina: oh, you're a wesnoth person? I like you. :)
[01:36] <Gnea> xiong: you can go nuts with bluetooth packages, but I would just follow what's on that website for now, just to get some sort of basic functionality going
[01:36] <Polarina> Gnea: :)
[01:36] <xiong> Gnea, i'm a pretty raw ubuntu noob, i don't follow most of that webpage
[01:37] <Gnea> xiong: ok, I'll try to walk ya through it
[01:37] <xiong> i've successfully got the laptop to recognize the mere existence of the phone
[01:37] <Gnea> excellent
[01:37] <xiong> i kinda expect a folder for the phone to appear in the file browser
[01:38] <xiong> i have the phone cabled, also
[01:38] <Gnea> it's not quite that simple, yet
[01:38] <Gnea> you need to get the phone to authenticate with a pin via bluetooth
[01:38] <Gnea> and forget the cable for now
[01:38] <xiong> unplug cable?
[01:38] <Gnea> you'll confuse it and it won't work if you have both trying to go at once
[01:38] <Gnea> yeah
[01:38] <Polarina> Too bad sound is still broken on my laptop as a regression since 8.04. :(
[01:39] <Gnea> Polarina: is that a hardware problem?
[01:39] <Polarina> Gnea: Yes.
[01:39] <xiong> Gnea, cable disconnected
[01:39] <loganphyve> gena, update your alsa drivers.
[01:39] <loganphyve> that's what made mine work again.
[01:39] <Intrepd> Does anyon kneo if it is normal for the "ethstatus" utility to consume non-trivial amounts of CPU?  I am seeing 70% usage on one of my cores when it is running (Athlon X2 4200).
[01:39] <Gnea> Polarina: ouch. i have a similar problem on my desktop. so i setup pulseaudio and have it output via the lan to my laptop
[01:39] <Gnea> Polarina: wesnoth plays perfectly and sounds great
[01:40] <Polarina> Gnea: :)
[01:40] <Gnea> xiong: ok good
[01:40] <Gnea> Polarina: it's a total hack, and i could simply swap the soundcard out, but, I'm lazy :)
[01:40] <Polarina> Gnea: :P
[01:40] <xiong> Gnea, under 'bluetooth preferences' there is a line item for 'motorola phone'
[01:41] <th83> Hey guys i have been trying to change my resolution since morning :'(
[01:41] <Polarina> Gnea: I can live without sound on my laptop anyway. :)
[01:41] <th83> with no success
[01:41] <Gnea> xiong: does it allow you to select it?
[01:42] <xiong> Gnea, it is selected
[01:42] <Gnea> Polarina: one of these days, when i've got it perfected and have the time, i'll write a howto up on the forums
[01:42] <linux> th83: what kind of computer and what kind of video card, which version of ubuntu?
[01:42] <xiong> Gnea, clicking on it does nothing, tho
[01:42] <th83> ATI, Binary driver and the xorg.conf http://paste.ubuntu.com/191228/
[01:42] <th83> it is a Desktop
[01:43]  * Polarina is having trouble finding the shut down menu option in Ubuntu 9.10.
[01:43] <marcosRz> Is sip:520@ekiga.net reachable right know on Ekiga?
[01:43] <xiong> Gnea, there are four buttons under the window; i pushed a couple of them
[01:43] <xiong> oddly enough, they went disabled then
[01:43] <ionine_> DCC SEND FIXURFUKINROUTERLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLLO
[01:43] <Gnea> xiong: do you have all of the bluetooth utils for gnome installed?
[01:43] <marcosRz> Is sip:520@ekiga.net reachable right know on Ekiga?
[01:43] <Shivam> anyone know any good free webhost?
[01:43] <th83> i have tried almost everything
[01:43] <xiong> Gnea, i think so
[01:43] <Gnea> wow
[01:44] <brabo__> Shivam google?
[01:44] <Gnea> !ot | Shivam
[01:44] <Gnea> [K-lined]  <-- nice
[01:45] <Romulus_> Okay, The MD5 checksums match up.
[01:45] <Gnea> xiong: looking...
[01:46] <ckwalsh> Any guesses why close buttons are no longer showing in Gnome title bars?
[01:46] <marcosRz> Is sip:520@ekiga.net reachable right know on Ekiga?
[01:46] <Gnea> !ot | marcosRz
[01:47] <marcosRz> Gnea, I think you dont understand, Ekiga is included on Ubuntu, and so is considered support software
[01:47] <xiong> Gnea, wammu is again up to the point where it's asking for a port...
[01:47] <ckwalsh> Gah.  Something messed up.  Anyone say whether they know why the close buttons aren't knowing up in gnome?
[01:47] <Gnea> marcosRz: wrong. Ekiga is included in Ubuntu, we support making sure that it operates at a basic functionality level, anything beyond that is out of our hands.
[01:48] <LjL> marcosRz: err, the Ekiga *program* is included in Ubuntu, but whether the a number in Ekiga *telephony network* is up or down is hardly Ubuntu-related
[01:48] <Gnea> marcosRz: so you should ask in #ekiga
[01:48] <marcosRz> Gnea, Right know is not operating basically, but if you dont know sip:520@ekiga.net is the default 'backbone' of Ekiga
[01:48] <Gnea> !ekiga | marcosRz
[01:49] <Gnea> marcosRz: see the website, ask in #ekiga
[01:49] <xiong> Gnea, 'bluetooth preferences' doesn't give me any such port or bluetooth address -- i installed 'gnome-bluetooth' using synaptic but i don't see it in any menus, unless it has another name
[01:49] <marcosRz> Gnea, I tried already they are on irc.gimp.org, and the channel is dead. =/
[01:49] <Gnea> marcosRz: then you'll need to be patient.
[01:50] <xiong> * i find it frustrating that the gnome desktop menu items don't seem to have the same names as the things to which they point! *
[01:50] <LjL> marcosRz, Ekiga is both a program and a VoIP network. the latter has nothing to do with Ubuntu and we don't support it here. feel free to ask in #ubuntu-offtopic whether that number is up for others.
[01:50] <Gnea> xiong: when you turn your bluetooth on the laptop on, do you get a little bluetooth icon show up in the top panel?
[01:51] <bucky> wow... dmraid was fun on the install
[01:51] <rafase282> Hello, I need help. I'm trying to make a linux distro with the android sdk and eclipse to run from a usb
[01:51] <PsyCl0ne> Hi all, could someone help me get NetworkManager to manage my wireless network connection please.
[01:52] <Gnea> rafase282: might want to ask that in #linux or #freenode
[01:52] <Polarina> Where's the restart button on 9.10??
[01:52] <Gnea> Polarina: #ubuntu+1 would know... we only support up to 9.04 in this channel
[01:52] <ckwalsh> Any guesses as to why GNOME isn't displaying the close buttons?
[01:53] <Gnea> ckwalsh: layout was changed?
[01:53] <ckwalsh> Last time I turned it on yesterday, my laptop was fine
[01:53] <Polarina> Gnea: Ok.
[01:53] <xiong> Gnea, there has *always* been a little bluetooth icon in the tray -- it seems only to have one menu item, which i just now used to set up the phone (to introduce the devices to one another)
[01:53] <ckwalsh> Gnea, I made sure it was on hte Human theme, still not showing up
[01:53] <Gnea> xiong: ok good
[01:54] <Gnea> ckwalsh: does it happen if you make a new account and login with it?
[01:54] <ckwalsh> Hrm, let me restart gdm
[01:54] <xiong> Gnea, fumbling around, i have got another icon in the tray; this says on mouseover, ready for bluetooth file transfers
[01:54] <jeffthree> how do I (or can I) add xsetroot to /usr/share/xsession/twm.desktop (I've never used gdm before)
[01:54] <MaT-dg1> what does it mean when a package is held back when I upgrade?
[01:54] <xiong> Gnea, but right-click on that icon gives me only 'about' and 'quit'; left-click does nothing at all
[01:55] <Gnea> xiong: what about left or middle click?
[01:55] <xiong> Gnea, left-click, nothing; i don't have a middle button
[01:55] <Gnea> xiong: click left+right=middle :)
[01:55] <xiong> Gnea, did that: nothing
[01:56] <Gnea> hmm
[01:56] <jeffthree> Gnea: only if x is configured to emulate three buttons...
[01:56] <xiong> the 'about' says, 'gnome-obex-server 0.11.0'
[01:56] <kev_zhong> hello, newbie here. How can I install the latest wine-1.1.23 which is not in deb yet
[01:57] <Polarina> kev_zhong: Wait for a build, or compile manually.
[01:57] <Gnea> xiong: ah ok, then that's the obex, which handles file transfer mode to the phone over bluetooth
[01:57] <Gnea> xiong: can you select the phone under Places?
[01:57] <mattx86> hey guys, if I were to get Ubuntu for my x86_64 desktop, should I go for version 9.04?  Also, is it relatively easy to upgrade when a new version comes out?
[01:57] <kev_zhong> do you think it wouldn't make a difference if I use the stable version, because I have been trying to install some games that get a gold rating but haven't luck yet
[01:57]  * xiong looks
[01:58] <xiong> Gnea, not obviously
[01:58] <mattx86> also, how is nvidia support out of the box?
[01:58]  * rsc1988 ##atheists downloading Great Dam
[01:58] <rafase282> Can anyone point me to a guide then?
[01:58] <Gnea> !ot | rsc1988
[01:58] <xiong> Gnea, i have it in my mind that the phone should appear somewhere on the desktop, in some form, somehow, somewhere -- but no
[01:58] <rsc1988> sorry
[01:59] <avgbvg> mattx86: installing jaunty was a breeze for me, and nvidia works fine as long as you follow the "install proprietary drivers" hints after installation
[01:59] <avgbvg> by "fine" i mean 3D works well in compiz and such.
[01:59] <Gnea> xiong: try this command:  obextool
[02:00] <ckwalsh> Well, looks like an update got interrupted
[02:00] <xiong> Gnea, i think that 'ready for file transfers' is a blind; i powered off the phone and it's unchanged
[02:00] <Polarina> After resuming from a suspend, how do I make it so it doesn't ask me for my password?
[02:00] <ckwalsh> which would definitely explain why GNOME is freaking out
[02:00] <tehwaffles> does 9.04 have issues with wubi? I've used older releases(non wubi) and have had great performance. This is incredibly laggy and has had virtually nothing changed since clean install
[02:01] <Gnea> tehwaffles: haven't tried the 9.04 wubi, the 8.04 and 8.10 always worked fine
[02:01] <xiong> Gnea, i started obextool from terminal but it popped up a gui window
[02:01] <mattx86> well, I'm currently experimenting with opensuse and have run into a small bump in the road, but it's making me consider switching back to ubuntu
[02:01] <Gnea> xiong: that's fine
[02:01] <kabdotinfo> How do I get aMSN to work with Ubuntu 9.04?
[02:01] <Gnea> xiong: does it find your phone?
[02:02] <mattx86> one big plus is that powerdvd is offered to ubuntu users
[02:02] <tehwaffles> kabdotinfo: add an msn account in pidgin
[02:02] <xiong> Gnea, i'm not sure -- it displays a 'root' folder icon, but nothing in it
[02:02] <kabdotinfo> tehwaffles: I'm talking about aMSN.
[02:02] <ckwalsh> Gnea: Thanks, but it looks like completing the update fixed it
[02:02] <pik}> kabdotinfo: sudo apt-get install amsn?
[02:02] <ckwalsh> really appreciate the help you guys give though :D
[02:03]  * Polarina has 9.04, and she thought she had 9.10.
[02:03] <cheeseman> sudo apt-get install powerdvd
[02:03] <kabdotinfo> pik}: Yes, but then it won't work. Doesn't start for some reason.
[02:03] <xiong> Gnea, not sure it has found anything
[02:03] <ckwalsh> (guy/gals, sorry to any ladies out there)
[02:03] <avgbvg> i've never tried opensuse myself, but in my opinion 9.04 has been fantastic.
[02:03] <Gnea> ckwalsh: I prefer "ya'll" or "all ya'll" ;)
[02:03] <Gnea> Polarina: oi
[02:04] <rohit> I want to install certain packages on a friends computer (namely sun-jdk6, povray, netbeans) but I am running on a ubuntu 64bit whereas my friends laptop is 32bit. is there anyway I can save all the needed packages for 32 bit ?
[02:04] <Gnea> xiong: that's the issue with this program - it takes awhile before it does something
[02:04] <Flannel> !offline | rohit
[02:04] <Romulus_> "all y'all" is redundant as "y'all" implies pluralty .
[02:05] <avgbvg> wow, that's an impressive helpbot
[02:05] <Flannel> Romulus_: all y'all is the plural of y'all.  As in, multiple groups of people.  But, this is entirely offtopic.
[02:05] <Gnea> Romulus_: actually, "ya'll" is singular
[02:05] <kabdotinfo> There should be both "You is" and "You are".
[02:05] <avgbvg> oh, haha. i missed the command. :)
[02:06] <rohit> Flannel, well the laptop doesn't have an internet connection. And I was thinking of taking the package files, copying them to the cache dir of apt and installing
[02:06] <Flannel> Romulus_, Gnea, kabdotinfo: I invite us to take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:06] <avgbvg> !offline | avgbvg
[02:06] <Gnea> Flannel: np, i tend to avoid that channel :)
[02:06] <Flannel> rohit: Right.  That website should be able to do it.
[02:06] <xiong> Gnea, i just tried to upload a file; the upload failed due to a permissions error, which makes no sense -- the file is mine, in my home folder
[02:06] <Romulus_> "ya'll" isn't a word. "Y'a'll" is accepted as being "you" and "all" contracted.
[02:06] <Romulus_> :P
[02:06] <Gnea> Romulus_: stop.
[02:06] <Paddy_EIRE> Gnea: yeah I am starting to learn that
[02:07] <Flannel> rohit: I'm not sure if there's an easier way (maybe synaptic can do that download script for other arches? I don't know)
[02:07] <avgbvg> rohit- you can always grab the package files yourself from archive.ubuntu.com
[02:07] <Romulus_> Gnea: Sorry, couldn't resist. Boredom got the better of me.
[02:07] <tty17> hey
[02:08] <linux> tty17: Hey!  :)
[02:08] <rohit> avgbvg, but some of them have dependencies - will the dependencies also get saved ?
[02:08] <xiong> Gnea, that error message is funky -- i created a .png (copy of another file) and set the broadest possible permissions on it -- same failure
[02:09] <Paddy_EIRE> rohit: no you will have to make note of the dependencies and download them aswell
[02:09] <xiong> Gnea, i think we're not really seeing the phone's filesystem, if that makes sense
[02:09] <cheeseman> how do you extract .exe files?
[02:09] <Flannel> rohit: No, but that last website will generate them for you.  http://apt.alturl.com/
[02:09] <cabrey> cheeseman, cabextract
[02:09] <Gnea> xiong: there's a way to get nautilus to see it, just can't remember how, and i can't locate my bt dongle
[02:09] <xiong> Gnea, in other words, i think the trouble may be that the phone won't allow an upload into it's filesystem root?
[02:09] <avgbvg> rohit- definitely not. i would try Flannel's suggestions first; this is a sort of last resort if you need to do it quick and dirty.
[02:09] <Oven1> What does xrandr: Configure crtc 0 failed mean?
[02:09] <rohit> Flannel, avgbvg Paddy_EIRE alright thanks I will give it a go
[02:10] <tty17> I've just put the livecd versions of eeebuntu and ubuntu on seperate partitions on a usb drive, and I've configured grub to replace syslinux, but when I try and boot ubuntu (on the 2nd partition) it gives the ubuntu loading screen but boots eeebuntu, I think (but I'm nowhere near sure) it might be something to do with initrd.gz selecting the wrong kernel, can somebody help?
[02:10] <tty17> sorry for loooong post
[02:10] <Gnea> xiong: no, you have to be able to browse to the root first
[02:10] <PsyCl0ne> could someone help me install wicd 1.6.0 please
[02:10] <xiong> Gnea, nautilus cd burner???
[02:10] <Flannel> rohit: Another alternative (click-wise easier) is to boot a liveCD and use aptonCD to generate an iso
[02:10] <tty17> PsyCl0ne: is it not in the repos?
[02:10] <Gnea> xiong: nooo, the file browser
[02:10] <PsyCl0ne> tty17: wicd is in the repos, but an older version
[02:11] <tty17> ah k
[02:11] <tty17> PsyCl0ne: is there a .deb on the website?
[02:11] <PsyCl0ne> tty17: no
[02:11] <icebreacker> galera...alguem sabe como posso fazer o sistema rodar quando da o erro pci: not using mmconfig!?
[02:11] <tty17> hmm idk then
[02:11] <cabrey> PsyCl0ne, there is 1.5.9, do you really need 1.6?
[02:11] <icebreacker> nesse caso me refiro ao debian
[02:11] <tty17> try the PPA?
[02:11] <mmm4m5m> Question please: is there a log file monitor? I have small script which show icon in notification area when log file is changed. Maybe there are much better utilities?
[02:12] <tty17> !pt
[02:12] <Gnea> !debian | icebreacker
[02:12] <xiong> Gnea, i'm intensely frustrated by this habit of calling things by one name in the gui menus and window title bars, but they're 'really' named something else -- can fix?
[02:12] <tty17> !pt | icebreacker
[02:12] <Paddy_EIRE> xiong: there is nothing to fix
[02:12] <Gnea> xiong: reconfigure the menus to not show simple names
[02:12] <xiong> Gnea, you're telling me that the window on my desktop with the title bar 'pictures - file browser' is really nautilus?
[02:13] <xiong> ah!
[02:13] <Gnea> xiong: yes, it is.
[02:13] <Gnea> xiong: the same reason why browser windows in XP aren't labelled explorer.exe
[02:13] <rohit> Flannel, why boot from a live cd ?
[02:13] <Paddy_EIRE> xiong: nautilus is the file manager
[02:13] <citizen42alpha> I know 'tis off topic, although whatever happened to the politics channel ?
[02:13] <lstarnes> citizen42alpha: it's ##politics
[02:13] <xiong> Gnea, i have a tech background, i'd rather see it all raw -- how to do?
[02:13] <Paddy_EIRE> xiong: file browser rather
[02:13] <Gnea> citizen42alpha: #politics
[02:13] <Guthur> am i likely to encounter any problems switching from gnome to kde, is it wiser to do a clean install?
[02:13] <citizen42alpha> lstarnes: thanks.
[02:14] <Gnea> xiong: ... no idea
[02:14] <lstarnes> Gnea: #politics doesn't work anymore
[02:14] <Gnea> xiong: i have a tech background as well - sad, eh?
[02:14] <PsyCl0ne> cabrey: I would like to try the newer version. The NetworkManager that came with ubuntu randomly decided that it was not going to manage my wireless networks and I can not figure out how to set to back to manage wireless. Also with Wicd 1.5, it keeps bugging out and gets stuck at obtaining ip address. I just hope that 1.6 will have this issue sorted
[02:14] <cabrey> Guthur, you shouldn't, sudo apt-get install kde
[02:14] <xiong> Gnea, you said, reconfigure menus not to show simple names -- how to do?
[02:14] <Gnea> lstarnes: oh well
[02:14] <linux> tty17: http://wicd.sourceforge.net/download.php - how to install
[02:14] <Paddy_EIRE> lstarnes: its a nonsense channel which should not be mentioned in here.. thanks
[02:14] <lstarnes> Paddy_EIRE: he was just asking where it was
[02:14] <Gnea> xiong: iirc, it's under System->Preferences->Menus
[02:15] <rohit> Okay aptoncd saves the cached packages right ?
[02:15] <tty17> linux: perhaps you should read the section entitled "Installing on Ubuntu"
[02:15] <Guthur> cabrey, thanks. so it should be easy even to give it a try
[02:15] <rohit> So can I install ubuntu 9.04 32 bit in a virtualbox and then install jdk,netbeans and povray and then use aptoncd ?
[02:15] <linux> tty17: I did - what's the problem?
[02:15] <cabrey> Guthur, yup, though it runs horribly on this computer :/
[02:16] <tty17> linux: nothing's the problem here
[02:16] <tty17> apart from this sodding USB disk
[02:16] <xiong> Gnea, i'm at that now -- apparently, i could retype the 'real' name over the 'bogus menu' name, case by case
[02:16] <tty17> but that has nothing to do with wicd
[02:16] <xiong> Gnea, no global pref for that, though
[02:16] <Guthur> cabrey, i assume switching back isn't a problem, if that turns out to be the case for me as well, is it the transparency thing (what i see in wiki)
[02:16] <linux> tty17: you're not trying to install the wifi manager wicd?
[02:16] <tty17> linux: nope
[02:17] <PsyCl0ne> linux: thats me
[02:17] <linux> tty17: what "wicd" are you trying to install?
[02:17] <cabrey> Guthur, you can easily switch back and forth, it is in the "sessions" menu on the login screen
[02:17] <tty17> linux: I'm not trying to install any wicd
[02:17] <grekkos> anyone ever use ctorrent before? I'm looking for a CLI torrent app just wondering if it's any good
[02:17] <tty17> linux: I'm trying to help PsyCl0ne install wicd
[02:17] <PsyCl0ne> Linux: I have 1.5 installed im trying to install 1.6
[02:17] <linux> tty17: sorry! easy to get confused in here
[02:17] <cabrey> PsyCl0ne, ok you can try what someone said before: http://wicd.sourceforge.net/download.php
[02:18] <PsyCl0ne> cabrey: Yes I have already done that, and that is why I have 1.5
[02:18] <pik}> PsyCl0ne: http://sourceforge.net/project/downloading.php?group_id=194573&filename=wicd-1.6.0.tar.bz2&a=7127910
[02:18] <linux> PsyCl0ne: http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=194573 - here's the download page - stable or unstable - you choose
[02:18] <PsyCl0ne> pik}: ok I have the file but I do not know where to go from there
[02:18] <rohit> Can somebody confirm the above ? I have started installing ...
[02:18] <grekkos> confirm what
[02:19] <xiong> Gnea, i've enabled 'nautilus' as a menu item by overwriting 'file manager' with 'nautilus' and checking a box
[02:19] <Guthur> cabrey, great thanks
[02:19] <cabrey> PsyCl0ne, have you tried compiling from souce & checkinstall?
[02:19] <linux> tty17: you on jaunty?
[02:19] <PsyCl0ne> Cabrey: I dont know how Ive had linux installed for like 3 weeks now
[02:20] <tty17> linux: yup
[02:20] <xiong> Gnea, am i really using the wrong distro? i appreciate being shielded from most of the ugly stuff but if i have to get in there, i'd like to know where i'm going
[02:20] <rohit> Flannel, I can install ubuntu 32 bit in a virtual box, install the packages and then save the cached package files right ? Because I don't want to burn a cd :D
[02:20] <linux> tty17: I found a differen link for wicd for jaunty
[02:21] <tty17> linux: cool, but perhaps you should be talking to PsyCl0ne
[02:21] <linux> http://packages.ubuntu.com/jaunty/all/wicd/download - should install eaiser
[02:21] <linux> tty17: Sorry!
[02:21] <tty17> haha
[02:21] <tty17> np
[02:21] <linux> PsyCl0ne: http://packages.ubuntu.com/jaunty/all/wicd/download
[02:21] <PsyCl0ne> Linux: I already have that revis, I would like the newer 1.6
[02:21] <linux> trying to follow too many conversations :)
[02:21] <cabrey> PsyCl0ne, hold on, I'll help you compile it
[02:22] <PsyCl0ne> cabrey: kk thank you
[02:22] <thiebaude> sebsebseb: goto sleep
[02:22] <cabrey> PsyCl0ne, on this page: http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=194573&package_id=229460 download the .tar.gz
[02:22] <sebsebseb> thiebaude: not yet and wrong channel
[02:22] <thiebaude> !ot
[02:22] <thiebaude> yep
[02:22] <xiong> Gnea, i think we may just want to come back to this at another time; looks like a big job
[02:23] <Gnea> xiong: someone else might know
[02:23] <linux> PsyCl0ne: http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=194573 - this is 1.6 stable and unstable
[02:23] <sebsebseb> !ot |  thiebaude
[02:23] <PsyCl0ne> cabrey: kk I have the file saved to my desktop
[02:23] <cabrey> PsyCl0ne, ok open a terminal
[02:23] <cabrey> PsyCl0ne, type sudo apt-get build-dep wicd
[02:23] <xiong> Gnea, perhaps it's enough for one day that i got the phone turned on and i can make voice calls with it -- data exchange will come later, after more work
[02:24] <xiong> but thank you for trying
[02:24] <PsyCl0ne> cabrey could we go to private chat
[02:24] <cabrey> PsyCl0ne, it might install quite a few packages
[02:24] <PsyCl0ne> cabrey: everything is just moving to fast to keep up
[02:24] <Gnea> xiong: good luck
[02:24] <cabrey> PsyCl0ne, fine by me if it is fine by everyone
[02:24] <pik}> cabrey: keep it here...im reading :p
[02:25] <PsyCl0ne> lol
[02:25] <pik}> next step ./configure > make > make install?
[02:25] <cabrey> PsyCl0ne, ok did you do that command?
[02:25] <PsyCl0ne> oh just a sec
[02:26] <PsyCl0ne> cabrey: I get an error output E: Unable to find a source package for wicd
[02:26] <pik}> the command worked for me
[02:27] <cabrey> PsyCl0ne, interesting... it worked for me too
[02:27] <cabrey> PsyCl0ne, can you remove the repo you put in from the wicd site?
[02:27] <gogeta> arg hi guys i have lost sount on my eeepc 900
[02:27] <PsyCl0ne> E: Unable to find a source package for wicd
[02:27] <PsyCl0ne> er sorry one sec
[02:27] <gogeta> was watching a movie and it died
[02:27] <gogeta> sound
[02:28] <PsyCl0ne> cabrey: kk I removed the repo
[02:28] <cabrey> PsyCl0ne, sudo apt-get update also
[02:29] <nsahoo> how do I make the file-roller a default handler when I download rar files?
[02:29] <PsyCl0ne> cabrey: kk just finished updating
[02:29] <cabrey> PsyCl0ne, try sudo apt-get build-dep wicd again
[02:29] <tty17> nsahoo: right click on the file, properties, open with
[02:29] <Flannel> rohit: yeah.  You can also do an iso via USB or whatever.
[02:29] <Flannel> rohit: Any form of sneakernet
[02:30] <cabrey> Flannel, always loved that word
[02:30] <PsyCl0ne> cabrey: I get the same error "Unable to find a source package for wicd"
[02:30] <icebreacker> I need help!
[02:30] <tty17> icebreacker: yes?
[02:30] <cabrey> PsyCl0ne, ok we'll forego that route then. sudo apt-get install build-essential
[02:30] <rohit> Flannel, I think i preffer copying the packages - isn't that simpler and better ? It will work right ? :P Cuz my friend would kill me if it didn't :P
[02:30] <icebreacker> tty17, my system show PCI: not using MMCONFIG
[02:30] <icebreacker> and break
[02:30] <nsahoo> tty17: that is correct when I have already downladed it. but, when I am downloading using firefox. Can I make it automatically open the rar files using fileroller?
[02:31] <tty17> nsahoo: oh I see
[02:31] <PsyCl0ne> cabrey: kk done
[02:31] <tty17> nsahoo: hmm I'm not sure
[02:31] <icebreacker> I'm from brazil...so, sorry, my inglish is not very good
[02:31] <Flannel> rohit: It'll work as far as installation goes, yes.  I'm not sure if the packages will be seen coming from the internet (because there's some metafiles associated with it), but I suppose in his case, that's moot.
[02:31] <cheeseman> what is the best internet relay chat program for linux that uses scripts?
[02:31] <tty17> icebreacker: perhaps try #ubuntu-br
[02:31] <cabrey> PsyCl0ne, ok. type cd Desktop
[02:32] <PsyCl0ne> cabrey: kk
[02:32] <rohit> Flannel, in an emergency I could just double click on the packages right ? APT should install them that way ?
[02:32] <cabrey> PsyCl0ne, then tar xzvf wicd-1.6.0.tar.gz
[02:32] <tty17> icebreacker: #ubuntu-br é em português. (is that right :P ?)
[02:32] <PsyCl0ne> cabrey: kk
[02:32] <cabrey> PsyCl0ne, ok cd wicd-1.6.0
[02:33] <Flannel> rohit: yeah, dpkg -i /folder/of/debs/*
[02:33] <PsyCl0ne> cabrey: kk
[02:33] <cheeseman> does anyone know what is the best irc program for linux that uses scripts?
[02:33] <rohit> Flannel, okay great - thanks again :D
[02:33] <cabrey> PsyCl0ne, ok run sudo ./setup.py build
[02:33] <cabrey> PsyCl0ne, you can safely ignore the errors
[02:33] <fresh_prince> Hello, I am installing cmake into a local directory (no root), and I need to use the cmake command, how should I set up my variables to do so? Help ?
[02:34] <PsyCl0ne> cabrey: kk done
[02:34] <Guthur> cheeseman Xchat seems pretty decent and appears to allow scripts, haven't tried scripting it though
[02:34] <jl>  Regarding the Ubuntu Netbook Remix: Does anyone know the program to remove that expands all windows to full size?
[02:34] <cabrey> PsyCl0ne, actually my bad run sudo ./setup.py configure then sudo ./setup.py build
[02:34] <icebreacker> tty17, eu sei mas ninguem lah sabe como ajudar
[02:35] <PsyCl0ne> cabrey: kk done :) no errors this time
[02:35] <cabrey> PsyCl0ne, sudo ./setup.py install
[02:35] <tty17> icebreacker: oh ok, sorry then
[02:35] <tty17> I don't know
[02:35] <PsyCl0ne> cabrey: kk done :)
[02:36] <marshall> sup
[02:37] <cabrey> PsyCl0ne, ok hold on
[02:37] <marshall> how so you get a flash player on here?
[02:37] <PsyCl0ne> cabrey: lol, white knuckles
[02:38] <marshall> help me out
[02:38] <cabrey> PsyCl0ne, you may have to restart but let me make sure first so hold tight
[02:38] <Revelation> Can someone help me get sound working on a laptop running ubuntu
[02:38] <marshall> cant get sound or video. what do i do
[02:38] <kubuntu_> d
[02:39] <PsyCl0ne> cabrey: kk worst comes to worst Ill just hop onto my desktop and rejoin into here and bug you again
[02:39] <thiebaude> marshall: i goto the adobe website and install the .deb for flash
[02:39] <kubuntu_> wath this?
[02:39] <Verminator> ﻿Revelation: what version Ubuntu and what hardware?  I probably cant help, but it would help other to thelp u
[02:39] <Revelation> umm I dunno the latest lol
[02:40] <marshall> using ps3 still not work no downloads work
[02:40] <thiebaude> marshall: for audio i'll google medibuntu for my w32codecs to play wmv and others
[02:40] <Revelation> its Ubuntu 9.04 64bit
[02:40] <marshall> ok
[02:40] <marshall> thanks
[02:40] <thiebaude> yw
[02:41] <thiebaude> brb
[02:41] <cabrey> PsyCl0ne, ok apparently that install script didn't do much
[02:41] <PsyCl0ne> cabrey: kk so what do I do?
[02:41] <Revelation> Can anyone help me get sound working on Ubuntu 9.04 64bit
[02:41] <cabrey> PsyCl0ne, hold on
[02:42] <cabrey> PsyCl0ne, hold on, I'm gonna go join #wicd real quick
[02:42] <PsyCl0ne> cabrey: sorry if im starting to get annoying, just havn't gotten much sleep trying to fix this problem and its starting to drive me nuts because I really dont know much about the workings of linux
[02:44] <cheeseman> how do you install GLIB
[02:44] <sebsebseb> !grub |  cheeseman
[02:44] <sebsebseb> cheeseman: I read wrong
[02:44] <cabrey> PsyCl0ne, the guy helping me out said he'll give me a 1.6 deb
[02:44] <PsyCl0ne> cabrey: lol sounds good
[02:45] <Revelation> Can someone help me get sound working on Ubuntu 9.0.4 64bit
[02:45] <cabrey> PsyCl0ne, when I get it I'll pass it on to you. i swear i didnt see anything besides the repo
[02:45] <PsyCl0ne> cabrey: me either, and Ive been looking since like last night
[02:45] <cabrey> PsyCl0ne, ok first run sudo ./setup.py uninstall
[02:46] <Lonesword> Is there any way to change from Gnome to KDE in Ubuntu 9.04 without reinstalling?
[02:46] <PsyCl0ne> cabrey: in a new terminal?
[02:46] <sebsebseb> Lonesword: of course
[02:46] <cabrey> Lonesword, sudo apt-get install kde
[02:46] <cabrey> PsyCl0ne, your existing terminal
[02:46] <Lonesword> and how do I remove gnome?
[02:46] <sebsebseb> Lonesword: this would be better   sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[02:46] <sebsebseb> Lonesword: I suppouse once installed
[02:47] <Lonesword> sebsebseb: I don't want Kubuntu...I want to install those softwares later
[02:47] <sebsebseb> !purekde | Lonesword
[02:47] <Revelation> Can someone help me get sound working on Ubuntu 9.0.4 64bit
[02:47] <sebsebseb> Lonesword: KDE is Kubuntu
[02:47] <PsyCl0ne> cabrey: kk uninstalled but Config files added after installation were not removed
[02:47] <cabrey> PsyCl0ne, and here http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/system://wicd/xUbuntu_9.04/all/wicd_1.6.0_all.deb
[02:47] <Lonesword> THANKS. I WILL TRY THAT
[02:47] <sebsebseb> Lonesword: also Linux programs hardly take up any space,   I would recommend  having both,  Gnome and KDE installed
[02:48] <Lonesword> sebsebseb: No, I really don't want kubuntu...just the core and I'm happy. Also, I want to get rid of gnome
[02:48] <thiebaude> marshall: everything ok now
[02:49] <Lonesword> sebsebseb: Is there any way I can choose between them on startup?
[02:49] <marshall> no still lookin
[02:49] <sebsebseb> Lonesword: yes
[02:49] <sebsebseb> Lonesword: from the log in screen
[02:49] <marshall> this is the pits
[02:49] <sebsebseb> Lonesword: change the session
[02:49] <Revelation> Can someone help me get sound working on Ubuntu 9.0.4 64bit
[02:49] <Lonesword> sebsebseb: It'll be available by default? I.e, once I install KDE - core?(and not the entire Kubuntu?)
[02:49] <sebsebseb> Lonesword: you select which one you want as default
[02:50] <sebsebseb> !patience |  Revelation
[02:50] <Lonesword> Ok. So I must now install KDE-core using synaptic?
[02:50] <Revelation> :( lol
[02:50] <Lonesword> sebsebseb: Ok. So I must now install KDE-core using synaptic?
[02:50] <linux> marshall: You setting up a PS3?  Cool
[02:50] <PsyCl0ne> Cabrey: kk I got it installed, Ill do a quick restart. Ill brb
[02:51] <marshall> yea it tolk 4ever to get right
[02:51] <linux> marshall: which version of ubuntu?
[02:51] <sebsebseb> Lonesword: yeah or  sudo aptitude install kde I guess
[02:51] <sebsebseb> !info kde
[02:51] <marshall> and it still aint right in my book
[02:51] <Lonesword> sebsebseb: aptitude is better
[02:52] <Lonesword> sebsebseb: I'm gonna try that now
[02:52] <sebsebseb> Lonesword: apparantly for bigger stuff yeah
[02:52] <cabrey> Lonesword, +1 for that
[02:52] <Flannel> No, aptitude isn't.  That hasn't been an accurate statement for a few years now.
[02:52] <cabrey> Flannel, IMHO it handles unnecessary packages better
[02:52] <Lonesword> cabrey: yep...and it didn't work!!!
[02:53] <Lonesword> sebsebseb: it didn't worl
[02:53] <linux> marshall: Is PS3 a PowerPC architecture?
[02:53] <sebsebseb> Lonesword: well normally I would just  sudo aptitude kubuntu-desktop  so I get the proper thing :)
[02:53] <cabrey> sebsebseb, that is everything tho even their boot splash
[02:53] <marshall> dont know yet
[02:54] <sebsebseb> cabrey: yep, but this person dosan't really want Gnome anymore anyway
[02:54] <cabrey> linux, yes it is
[02:54] <marshall> still playin with it
[02:54] <Lonesword> sebsebseb: No kubuntu anyway...lot of things I don't need. I'm using synaptic to install kde-core now...let us see what will happen.
[02:54] <sebsebseb> cabrey: also  the bootsplash can be changed back to the Ubuntu one
[02:54] <linux> marshall: You just have a command line (black screen?)
[02:54] <marshall> its pretty fast thoug
[02:54] <sebsebseb> Lonesword: yes I was thinking it might be called kde-core  so  you could get that with commands instead
[02:54] <Artemis3> what about kubuntu-desktop ?
[02:54] <Lonesword> sebsebseb: When I download using synaptic, I get really low speeds. Is it the same there?
[02:55] <sebsebseb> Lonesword: synaptic is just a GUI for apt
[02:55] <cheeseman> i cant get xchat to work
[02:55] <Lonesword> sebsebseb: Oh.......so both are essentially the same.
[02:55] <Revelation> Can someone help me get sound working on Ubuntu 9.0.4 64bit?   I looked at help.ubuntu.com and cant find nothing.
[02:55] <linux> marshall: You need to modify the repos to get the powerPC repos
[02:56] <Gaurang> hii
[02:56] <sebsebseb> Lonesword: pretty much I suppouse, but if you run aptitude in the terminal you get a nice little  app there, that dosn't really need to be used.  and aptitude is apparantly better with dealing with dependancies and such than apt-get even though some people might disagree
[02:56] <marshall> ok i just installed is lets see if it worked
[02:56] <Gaurang> hii everybody
[02:56] <Gaurang> i need one help
[02:56] <grendal_prime> anybody ever run into werid errors when running an nfs server?
[02:56] <cabrey> !ask | Gaurang
[02:56] <grendal_prime> Bad message (badly formatted packet or protocol incompatibility)
[02:57] <Gaurang> just how to know my ubuntu is 32 bit or 64 bit
[02:57] <Lonesword> sebsebseb: and the download speed? When I was using elive, things were much faster. Generally, I'm getting low download speeds in Ubuntu.
[02:57] <Gaurang> please tell me
[02:57] <Gaurang> ﻿ just how to know my ubuntu is 32 bit or 64 bit
[02:57] <sebsebseb> Lonesword: well two completly different distros
[02:57] <lift> Alguem de minas?
[02:57] <grendal_prime>  werid part i have another network with this same configs on the machiens and it works perfectly
[02:57] <NeElo> hi , your speake spanish ??
[02:57] <sebsebseb> !release |   Gaurang
[02:57] <cabrey> Gaurang, uname -a and if it says x86_64
[02:57] <Lonesword> sebsebseb: well, its just 31 mb to download and its gonna take me half an hour!!
[02:57] <sebsebseb> !version |  Gaurang
[02:57] <Artemis3> thats portuguese
[02:58] <Lonesword> sebsebseb: I'm getting 10% of my usual download speed!
[02:58] <sebsebseb> Gaurang: you would normalley know if you were running the 64bit version or not
[02:58] <marshall> so gay still not working
[02:58] <Lonesword> NeElo: English only please (Or I can't understand, sorry!!)
[02:59] <rohit> Umm which repository is sun-jdk again ?
[02:59] <cha0s> hey guys, i'm trying to compile a c++ source with g++ -profile and ld's complaining that it can't find the 'c_p' library... whats up with that?
[02:59] <Don_Miguel> !pt | lift
[03:00] <rohit> wow it took a long time to install those updates
[03:00] <lift> portugues
[03:00] <linux> marshall: http://psubuntu.com/
[03:00] <lift> quem é do brasil?
[03:00] <cha0s> hey troll
[03:00] <cabrey> lifi, /join #ubuntu-br
[03:00] <LjL> lift: pregunta en #ubuntu-br
[03:00] <lift> tank you
[03:01] <tjz> can i ask something not related to ubuntu
[03:01] <Gaurang> when i type uname -a it says "i686"
[03:01] <cabrey> !ot
[03:01] <Gaurang> what it means
[03:01] <cabrey> Gaurang, sounds like 32 bit
[03:01] <walrus_> !list
[03:01] <sebsebseb> Gaurang: a slightly later 32bit
[03:01] <sebsebseb> Gaurang: that's the version of Ubuntu you have installed, but your hardware can maybe do 64bit
[03:02] <Gaurang> ok i try 32 bit
[03:02] <Gaurang> actually i was installing eclipse for 32 bit
[03:02] <Gaurang> for there were options like linux 32 bit or 64 bit
[03:03] <Artemis3> Gaurang try, lsb_release -a
[03:03] <padge> Where would I reference a shell script for startup?
[03:03] <jwm1> i have a question about a portable HD that shows as a "read-only file system"  Can anyone advise me on modifying this?
[03:04] <cabrey> jwm1, what filesystem?
[03:04] <marshall> ok now i just install 3 plugins and nothin work
[03:04] <marshall> so gay
[03:04] <Lonesword> sebsebseb: I've an AMD sempron (supposed to be 64 bit). I'm using 32 bit OS....should I switch to 64 bit OS? And what's the advantage?
[03:04] <cabrey> jwm1, thats why
[03:05] <rohit> Lonesword, how much RAM do you have ?
[03:05] <cabrey> jwm1, keep it out here so everybody can help
[03:05] <ProGenY> hi to all ... any one knows if there is a ubuntu install for a toshiba e355 pocket pc
[03:05] <sebsebseb> Lonesword: how much RAM do you have?
[03:05] <cabrey> jwm1, do you have any data on it?
[03:05] <marshall> 80gb
[03:05] <Zlogger> hi guys, i have a drive that i can normally mount via the GUI via places and clicking it's name.  How can i mount this via the command line? (ssh)
[03:05] <Gaurang> ﻿Artemis3:  it says no LSB modules are available
[03:05] <Zlogger> thats too many "via"s lol
[03:06] <jwm1> Is there a way I can change a read-only file system to one I can read and write to?
[03:06] <Gaurang> Cabrey : thanks for help
[03:06] <calmbola> how can i tell what kind of a shell i am using?
[03:06] <cha0s> in case anyone has my problem, in ubuntu you gotta install libc6-prof :)
[03:06] <cabrey> jwm1, do you have any data on it?
[03:06] <padge> Zlogger, type 'man mount' into the console
[03:06] <calmbola> as in bash, etc?
[03:06] <jwm1> no data that I need to keep
[03:06] <cabrey> jwm1, System > Administration > Partition Editor
[03:06] <Zlogger> padge:  1261 lines
[03:07] <Zlogger> padge: do you know?  this is kind of an emergency
[03:07] <Artemis3> Gaurang, uname -a
[03:07] <cabrey> jwm1, or if that isn't installed sudo aptitude install gparted
[03:07] <jwm1> cabrey, i'll work with that for a bit -- thanks
[03:07] <cha0s> haha, nvm... thing threw a FPE when i tried running my app, crashed inside gmon... lovely
[03:07] <Artemis3> Gaurang, it shows x86_64 near the end...
[03:07] <padge> Zlogger, I don't remember the switches, I usually read the man page (not all 1261 lines, I find the ones I need) before I do it
[03:07] <Gaurang> no
[03:08] <Artemis3> then its not
[03:08] <Artemis3> :)
[03:08] <padge> but, it goes a little something like this:  mount <device/partition> <existing directory where I want it mounted>
[03:08] <Gaurang> its 32 bit then
[03:08] <padge> you might have to specify -t
[03:08] <Gaurang> like every one here told me
[03:08] <padge> (to tell it what kind of filesystem)
[03:08] <Gaurang> ﻿﻿Artemis3: ﻿sebsebseb: ﻿ubottu: thanks for help .. :)
[03:08] <padge> followed by whatever it is (they're all listed in the man page)
[03:08] <Jason2gs> When I try to mount my floppy drive (mount -t msdos /dev/fd0 /media/floppy) I get, "/dev/fd0 is not a valid block device"
[03:08] <padge> so maybe:
[03:09] <padge> mount -t ntfs /hdb1 /mnt/somedrive
[03:09] <mikepark> calmbola: env | grep SHELL
[03:09] <padge> Zlogger, What kind of file system is the drive you're trying to mount?
[03:10] <Revelation> Can someone help me get sound working on Ubuntu 9.0.4 64bit.
[03:10] <calmbola> mikepark, thanks
[03:10] <marshall> i did get some cool add ons
[03:10] <linux> Revelation:  at a terminal type "lspci" and tell us what kind of sound card you have ?
[03:11] <Revelation> ok one second
[03:11] <padge> I would like to set an alias for 'dir' or set persistent implicit switches for ls.  How can I do this automatically at boot?
[03:11] <Luckst0rr> howard is a nub :D
[03:11] <_2eXtreme> guys, why did linus develop the linux kernel? was ti because unix wasn't free at the time?
[03:12] <Zlogger> padge: nm man, thakn you for the help but i just realized i left VNC on...
[03:12] <Revelation> linux: http://pastebin.com/m427bcfe0
[03:12] <padge> _2eXtreme, School project, I think
[03:12] <Zlogger> which was NOT working lol
[03:12] <Zlogger> i could connect and click stuff but it does not register... so i had to do a click, then logout, then login do the next click etc
[03:12] <Zlogger> lol
[03:12] <padge> Zlogger, np.  For linux stuff, remember, there's a man page on just about everything.
[03:12] <Zlogger> padge: thx again for offering assistance... really appreciate it
[03:12] <linux> Revelation: ICH9 - everyone is having trouble with that
[03:13] <linux> Revelation: I don't know if there is an answer yet.
[03:13] <rob_p> padge, You could set an alias in your ~/.bashrc file.
[03:13] <PsyCl0ne> hi all
[03:13] <Revelation> linux: so no sound for me? lol
[03:13] <linux> hi PsyCl0ne !
[03:13] <PsyCl0ne> cabrey: would you still happen to be here?
[03:13] <cabrey> PsyCl0ne, yes
[03:13] <PsyCl0ne> Hi linux
[03:13] <padge> rob_p, Thanks.  I'm a DOS kid, so is that like my per-user autoexec.bat?
[03:14] <linux> Revelation: Maybe try a search of the forums at www.ubuntuforums.org for ICH9 or try google.  I haven't seen it solved just yet - but must be some workaround somewhere
[03:14] <Revelation> linux: ill look
[03:14] <linux> Revelation: Wish I had something better to tell you
[03:14] <rob_p> padge, not exactly but close enough.  It basically set up things like your environment, etc.
[03:14] <Revelation> linux: its ok ill find a answer
[03:14] <linux> PsyCl0ne: How did it go?
[03:15] <Jason2gs> When I try to mount my floppy drive (mount -t msdos /dev/fd0 /media/floppy) I get, "/dev/fd0 is not a valid block device"
[03:15] <pwner> Hi, I'm running Ubuntui version 9.04, and I'm trying to install Dropbox, but when I go to this page "https://www.getdropbox.com/downloading?os=lnx" both download links tell me that it's the wrong architecture. Why is this?
[03:15] <PsyCl0ne> Cabrey: kk when I rebooted wicd was a mess, the gui loaded but it kept trying to create a passkey file or something, and no networks would show, so I uninstalled it fully from package manager rebooted and reinstalled it from the deb file
[03:15] <ceej> hey all, does anyone know why my menu bar would be here http://www.ubuntu-pics.de/bild/15928/screenshot_013_L0aYv9.png and how I'd get it back to normal?
[03:15] <PsyCl0ne> so its working now
[03:15] <PsyCl0ne> but it just wont get an ipaddy from any of the networks
[03:15] <cabrey> PsyCl0ne, so you have the same problem?
[03:15] <PsyCl0ne> authentication is successful I just dont get an ip
[03:15] <PsyCl0ne> yea
[03:16] <PsyCl0ne> sorry cabrey: yea :(
[03:16] <cabrey> PsyCl0ne, /join #wicd and they can help you figure it out directly
[03:16] <linux> ceej: Does logging out and in change anything?
[03:16] <PsyCl0ne> Cabrey: thank you sooo much for you help and patience
[03:16] <ceej> nope...I figured it out, but it's weird it just moved
[03:16] <rohit> alright time to head out ... laters
[03:16] <cabrey> ceej, that happens sometimes when you use a different resolution
[03:16] <padge> rob_p, Cool.  Thanks for the tip
[03:17] <cabrey> ceej, the panel doesnt resize correctly
[03:17] <cabrey> ceej, you can move the back Right click > Move
[03:17] <linux> cabrey: I know the icons on the menu bar can be locked, but can the menu bar itself?
[03:18] <ceej> cabrey: Thanks I figured that out :) I have 2 28" monitors iut moved when I hooked them up :P
[03:18] <cabrey> linux, not that i know of
[03:18] <ha1331_> does anyone know for sure it's possible to have triple or quad displays on ubuntu? Planning to go and buy 2x gt9600 cards and third monitor. Would be nasty if I'dd get them for nothing. Just levelled my vista installation and not planning to go back to m$ products. Even reformatted my drives to ext to make sure of this
[03:18] <cabrey> ceej, yea stuff like that will do it for some reason don't know why
[03:19] <cabrey> ha1331, did you see this: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-342537.html
[03:20] <linux> what program does someone use for dual or triple display?/what other stuff - cables and such?
[03:20] <pwner> anyone know?
[03:20] <XCP> hi! I have an ATI HD 4850, and if I click (in the restricted drivers dialog) on "activate", nothing happens. any idea how to install the driver?
[03:21] <mashedpgravy> can anyone tell me how i can mount the optical drive/cd rom that was burnt using windows xp native cd burning utility?  i keep getting a volume unmountable error message
[03:21] <pwner> XCP there are drivers on the ATI website for the HD4800 cards specifically.
[03:22] <XCP> pwner: so I shouldn't use the one that comes with ubuntu?
[03:22] <pwner> XCP I had to do the same thing with my 4830... good luck getting the sound to work through hdmi btw ;)
[03:22] <calmbola> any idea why stripes is not in the repositories?
[03:22] <calmbola> it's a framework for java
[03:22] <ha1331_> linux: I just like the idea of having things on their own displays. Get to the information / application just by turning my head. I'm aware that one can use virtual desktops(if thats what they are called). I'm thinking it's matter of what one get's used to.
[03:23] <pwner> XCP no, you should use the drivers from the website.
[03:23] <ha1331_> usually have some movie etc running on one display, something semi productive on the other and then browsers and such.
[03:23] <XCP> pwner: oh I see... have you had any problems with the drivers & xorg memory usage? in my last ubuntu install, xorg was a memory hog due to a faulty driver. I hope this is fixed.
[03:24] <halberd> how do I get the dump command on ubuntu?
[03:24] <halberd> odd that it doesn't have it
[03:24] <pwner> XCP aside from getting the damn sound to work, I've had no porblems at all.
[03:24] <Guthur> XCP do not use the x-org driver with the 4850 it did bad things to my computer :)
[03:24] <XCP> Guthur: which should I use instead then?
[03:25] <cabrey> jwm1, have you tried to format it?
[03:25] <Guthur> xcp like others said, use the ones from ATI website
[03:25] <jwm1> cabrey: I tried to make a partition table
[03:25] <halberd> how do you back stuff up on ubuntu if you don't use dump
[03:25] <XCP> Guthur: oh... by xorg driver you mean the one that comes with ubuntu?
[03:25] <cabrey> !backup | halberd
[03:25] <pwner>  Hi, I'm running Ubuntui version 9.04, and I'm trying to install Dropbox, but when I go to this page "https://www.getdropbox.com/downloading?os=lnx" both download links tell me that it's the wrong architecture. Why is this?
[03:25] <Guthur> xcp ya sorry maybe i missed something
[03:26] <XCP> Guthur: when you used the Ubuntu driver, have you had any problems with xorg memory usage?
[03:26] <jwm1> cabre: the format option is greyed out
[03:26] <Guthur> XCP i had problems getting ubuntu to boot again, i had video corruption and couldn't get into the OS at all, had to reinstall in the end
[03:26] <XCP> oh
[03:26] <XCP> sorry to hear that
[03:27] <jwm1> cabrey?
[03:27] <jwm1> cabrey?
[03:27] <Guthur> XCP nah it wasn't that bad i had only installed it anyway, no lose or anything, just a bit of a waste of time :)
[03:27] <cabrey> jwm1, ok what happens?
[03:27] <Guthur> XCP but the official ATI driver works fine
[03:27] <linux> marshall: Did you get your questions answered?  Just curious
[03:28] <Shirakawasuna> hi, does anyone here have an idea for why an sd card wouldn't be mounted automatically at boot?  It does it *sometimes* but no on others.  Recently, I just added a hack to rc.local (mount /dev/sdb1) but I don't know how consistently it works yet.
[03:28] <marshall>  no
[03:28] <Shirakawasuna> my guess was that it's an sdcard and some module wasn't loaded at the time it would normally attempt to mount
[03:28] <marshall> still no youtube 4 me
[03:28] <linux> marshall: Bummer!
[03:28] <XCP> Guthur: glad to hear that... I just downloaded it and ran the .run file... do I have to do anything else after that or does the .run file everything for me?
[03:29] <linux> marshall: if PS3 is PPC architecture, flash is not very well supported, better off downloading the videos you want to watch
[03:29] <Guthur> XCP i think thats all i did, just ran it with sudo, and it was good to go :)
[03:29] <ethiotech> how can I setup file sharing between two ubuntu systems.. I am not share how to use samba server?
[03:29] <marshall> im gonna try to install yellow dog to my ps3 maybe that will work
[03:30] <XCP> Guthur: wish me luck, I gonna restart now :)
[03:30] <Guthur> XCP I'm running x64 though, which might have been my initial problem
[03:30] <linux> marshall: did you look at psbuntu.org?
[03:30] <XCP> me too, Guthur
[03:30] <linux> marshall: Still won't have flash
[03:30] <halberd> okay so that page says you just use tar and dd
[03:30] <marshall> no nise thinkin though
[03:30] <cabrey> marshall, what is the problem?
[03:30] <linux> marshall: with yellow dog
[03:30] <Guthur> XCP well then definitely stick with the official, hope it works as well for you :)
[03:30] <XCP> thanks :)
[03:30] <XCP> bbl
[03:30] <halberd> but isn't dump the standard linux backup tool
[03:30] <marshall> i have no flashplyer
[03:30] <pik}> ethiotech: have you installed samba?
[03:31] <jwm1> how do I reformat a portable drive that is "read-only" ?
[03:31] <cabrey> marshall, on what distro/platform/etc
[03:31] <mashedpgravy> So i have this cd that i burned a bunch of pics to on another computer using the native XP disc burning utility, how can i access it on ubuntu?  I am getting a "volume not mountable" message.
[03:31] <marshall> im using my ps3 to run this
[03:31] <cabrey> marshall, and have you tried gnash/swfdec?
[03:31] <halberd> well I guess apt-get install dump works
[03:31] <halberd> but why isn't it in by default
[03:31] <halberd> is there some reason
[03:31] <linux> mashedpgravy: Do you have more than one optical drive?
[03:31] <marshall> yea all of them
[03:31] <mashedpgravy> no sir
[03:32] <marshall> still looking 4 more
[03:32] <cabrey> marshall, those are the only 2
[03:32] <Lonesword> I installed kde and when I try to log in, a loading screen appears and the system hangs...after a few seconds, I get the login screen again! Can't log in to kde. Any idea?
[03:32] <marshall> ok im so dumb
[03:32] <cabrey> marshall, you are never going to get the official flash player
[03:32] <hoohaah> hi guys. any of you know how to use terminals print-pipe resource? Which key combo would do that?
[03:33] <linux> marshall: just download your youtube videos
[03:33] <marshall> how
[03:33] <cabrey> marshall, check out the totem youtube plugin
[03:33] <marshall> ?
[03:33] <linux> marshall: You using firefox on the PS3?
[03:33] <ethiotech> pik}: I am so dumb.. I can't even install samba :)
[03:33] <marshall> ok hold up
[03:33] <coreyman>  Could not initialize class java.awt.Toolkit when i try to install flex. what's up with that.
[03:33] <mashedpgravy> linux: no i do not
[03:33] <Um_cara_qualquer> I've got a problem, I wish to install something but when i type the comand in terminal, it says "Access Denied"... how can i install it?
[03:34] <linux> marshall: I was going to suggest a firefox plugin, but you need to find one for the browser you are using or use Clive on the command line.
[03:34] <cabrey> Um_cara_qualquer, !sudo
[03:34] <cabrey> !sudo
[03:34] <mashedpgravy> Um_cara_qualquer use sudo
[03:34] <pik}> ethiotech: no worrys. it's really simple. go to the add/remove. you can find it in the applications menu
[03:34] <Lonesword> marshall: There's a site which converts the video and then let you download it....just give'em the URL. I haven't tried it yet, and I forgot the link. I searched google for "how to download youtube videos in linux" or something. I had bookmarked it, but lost it when I formatted my computer
[03:34] <Um_cara_qualquer> blz
[03:35] <cabrey> marshall, there is a youtube plugin for totem so you dont have to screw with all that youtube download bullsh**
[03:35] <Um_cara_qualquer> same thing, access denied =/
[03:36] <marshall> just got the plugin lets see
[03:36] <marshall> if it works
[03:36] <Lonesword> can't log in to KDE. I installed kde using synaptic.....the "kde-core" package...system hangs when trying to log in to kde and then shows the login screen again.
[03:36] <Lonesword> Gnome works fine
[03:36] <linux> mashedpgravy: did you say you wanted to mount if from command line?
[03:37] <ethiotech> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[03:37] <ethiotech>   samba: Depends: libcupsys2 (>= 1.3.4)
[03:37] <ethiotech>          Depends: samba-common (= 3.0.28a-1ubuntu4.7) but 2:3.2.3-1ubuntu3 is to be installed
[03:37] <ethiotech> E: Broken packages
[03:37] <FloodBot2> ethiotech: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:37] <ethiotech> sorry
[03:37] <linux> mashedpgravy: Try the dir /media
[03:37] <mashedpgravy> linux: no, i just popped in the disc and i got a message that said the volume is unmountable, i dont do anything fromt he command line unless i have to
[03:38] <XCP> Guthur: restart succeeded, how can I test if the driver is actually active?
[03:38] <pik}> ethiotech: sudo apt-get install libcupsys2
[03:38] <zeroprog> does anybody use Konversation
[03:38] <pik}> zeroprog: yes
[03:38] <mashedpgravy> linux: output is "cdrom cdrom0 New\ Volume"
[03:38] <zeroprog> do you know how to set up the /msg NickServ identify
[03:39] <infomomo> zeroprog: what's Konversation for? IRC ?
[03:39] <pik}> zeroprog: what do you mean? like perform?
[03:39] <zeroprog> yes info
[03:39] <mashedpgravy> linux: new volume is my external usb hard drive and i only have one optical drive
[03:39] <sam555> hello all!
[03:39] <infomomo> zeroprog: thanks
[03:39] <zeroprog> pik: yes but on joining the server
[03:39] <sam555> i'm about to install 9.04 and I wondered how much of a 125 gb hdd should I put the swap partition?
[03:39] <cabrey> sam555, how much ram do you have?
[03:39] <Guthur> XCP you can go to terminal and type - aticonfig --list-adapters
[03:40] <sam555> 2gb ram Cabrey
[03:40] <mashedpgravy> sam55, i have 2 gigs of ram so i set mine to 8gb
[03:40] <mashedpgravy> guessing out of the blue
[03:40] <cabrey> sam555, 1gb should be good
[03:40] <coreyman> Why do you guys use swap?
[03:40] <linux> mashedpgravy: I think you need to check your fstab - I'm not very good with that
[03:40] <cabrey> mashedpgravy, that. is. over. kill.
[03:40] <shleep> could anyone walk me through how to get rosetta stone to work on 8.10?
[03:40] <mashedpgravy> like i said, guessed out of the blue
[03:40] <coreyman> I have 2gb ram and no swap, my system runs fine.
[03:40] <linux> sam555: Two times ram is good rule of thumb
[03:40] <Guthur> XCP ignore that first  -  its confusing, just ~$ aticonfig --list-adapters
[03:40] <cabrey> sam555, what do you plan on using your system for?
[03:40] <zeroprog> is that language teaching thing?
[03:40] <shleep> yes
[03:40] <cabrey> linux, more like .5
[03:41] <zeroprog> is it free?
[03:41] <shleep> er... it can be
[03:41] <mashedpgravy> fstab...ok...i dont know what that is, all i know is this drive works fine with any other disc LOL
[03:41] <warrie> So, I'm running Ubuntu, and there's no sound.
[03:41] <cabrey> !sound
[03:41] <mashedpgravy> turn on the speakers
[03:41] <marshall> damn this sucks
[03:41] <sam555> linux: thanks!
[03:41] <cabrey> marshall, ...?
[03:41] <linux> cabrey: .5?  not in my experience, but I use old computers
[03:41] <mashedpgravy> ;)
[03:41] <Guthur> XCP for a list of tweaking functions enter ~$ aticonfig
[03:41] <sam555> cabrey: it's someone else's laptop
[03:41] <shiznebit> hi how do I identify what Wireless Channels are currently being used around me ?
[03:41] <sam555> cabrey: 1/2 vista 1/2 ubuntu
[03:42] <marshall> it may be cause im on a ps3
[03:42] <cabrey> linux, if you think about it more ram = less likely to use swap
[03:42] <cabrey> sam555, that shouldnt really matter
[03:42] <cabrey> sam555, swap isnt shared between vista and ubuntu
[03:42] <rob_p> coreyman, That's fine as long as you don't exhaust your RAM.  As soon as you do, the system will start killing off processes... not a very pleasant thing.  Swap allows you to accidentally 'bump' the RAM limit with some degree of grace!
[03:42] <sam555> it's  250gb drive and 1/2 I'm giving to each os
[03:42] <cabrey> sam555, ahh got ya
[03:42] <zeroprog> how can it be free id love to learn italian or german
[03:42] <Guest60164> hi all.. is there a solution for usb wimax ?
[03:42] <linux> shiznebit: sudo iwlist scan
[03:42] <sam555> 125 gb for ubuntu=4gb swap, but I want to partition a home and a root. How much should I give to root?
[03:43] <mashedpgravy> oh guess what, i just looked, i made my swap 4gb, not 8gb, so its double my ram, so ill leave it i guess
[03:43] <coreyman> rob_p thanks
[03:43] <LosFrijoles> hey does anyone know why unr's launcher is so slow after switching users?
[03:43] <shiznebit> linux, awsome
[03:43] <Guthur> XCP you can also go to System > Administration > Hardware Drivers
[03:43] <rob_p> coreyman, np
[03:43] <losher> zeroprog: it's old fashioned, but check your local library. They usually have materials for beginning language learners
[03:43] <linux> shiznebit: your welcome :)
[03:43] <cabrey> sam555, imho max swap would be 2 gb then give ~40gb / rest to /home
[03:43] <josefig> Hello, i tried to configure my wireless on ubuntu 9.04 and i done it, but when i restarted the computer and tried to connect the pc on the net i couldn't i tried to do $ sudo ifconfig wlan0 up and it says: the device doesn't exist and i changed to vista and work properly how can i add it on modprobe or what do i have to do?
[03:44] <ha1331_> I have 8G of ram and 1,3g swap, should I increase it for some reason?
[03:44] <pik}> zeroprog: server list, edit the server, identify, edit..
[03:44] <sam555> cabrey: thanks much!
[03:44] <cabrey> ha1331, you're fine. 8GB christ
[03:44] <coreyman> I am installing an application, and it says it requires 32 bit jre, i have 64 bit.... how do i install the 32 bit? I used sudo apt-get install openjdk-6-jre
[03:44] <cabrey> ha1331, i mean unless you are editing 10 hd movies and watching 40 more at the same time ... :/
[03:44] <pik}> ethiotech: how's it going?
[03:44] <ha1331_> cabrey: hehe, usually just one non-hd thing at a time
[03:44] <losher> !swap
[03:45] <infomomo> !jigdo
[03:45] <ha1331_> cabrey: and no editing.
[03:45] <cabrey> ha1331, my point
[03:45] <Jason2gs> When I try to mount my floppy drive (mount -t msdos /dev/fd0 /media/floppy) I get, "/dev/fd0 is not a valid block device"
[03:45] <zaniel_> I have a panasonic dvd ram multi drive that will not burn in Jaunty (ubuntu) I burn coasters and don't know why
[03:45] <LosFrijoles> anyone know why unr launcher would be slow after user switcing?
[03:45] <pik}> is they are way to fix the "program freeze" when using unrar?
[03:46] <coreyman> I am installing an application, and it says it requires 32 bit jre, i have 64 bit.... how do i install the 32 bit? I used sudo apt-get install openjdk-6-jre
[03:46] <ha1331_> cabrey: have my system on intel E-series ssd-disk, liking the smoothnes of my system... like light year away from vista.
[03:46] <cabrey> ha1331, i'm on a netbook and can even play hd movies/video
[03:47] <Guest60164> !wimax
[03:47] <linux> zaniel_: I have a funny story!  I thought my combo drive was a cd-r/dvd-r when I looked it was just dvd-rom :/.  Do you use dvd+r or dvd-r?
[03:48] <ha1331_> cabrey: I've been trying to figure out how vista can take 19G on fresh install and notepad and media player is just about everything you get. My ubuntu install is currently 10G and that's with all the stuff installed I need and some files even
[03:48] <zaniel_> dvd -r
[03:48] <Guest60164> !docx
[03:48] <cabrey> ha1331, some mstards dont believe me when i say vista took 17gb on a fresh install
[03:48] <shiznebit> ha1331_: Vista is a virus
[03:48] <Guest60164> ubottu: just what do you know?  =)
[03:49] <ha1331_> cabrey: x64 is about 19G, know this for sure... did the install thing 3 times last months
[03:49] <shiznebit> Guest60164: If your going to play mess around with the bot you can do it in #ubuntu-bots
[03:49] <cabrey> ha1331, same x64 install was about 17 - 19 gb around there
[03:49] <coreyman> I am installing an application, and it says it requires 32 bit jre, i have 64 bit.... how do i install the 32 bit? I used sudo apt-get install openjdk-6-jre
[03:50] <Guest60164> lol... no thanx.. i got better things to do... bye all.   =)
[03:50] <LosFrijoles> !unr
[03:50] <LosFrijoles> !netbook
[03:50] <LosFrijoles> cool
[03:50] <ha1331_> cabrey: maybe because I had it with sp2 could explain the difference. Can't justify the 500$ pricetag on it.
[03:50] <CarlFK1> how can I tell X/gdm not to start when I reboot?
[03:51] <shiznebit> ubottu is alot like wolfram search. Doesn't know anything
[03:51] <zaniel_> Linux do you have any idea how to get a dvd -ram mutli drive to stop burning coasters in jaunty
[03:51] <cabrey> CarlFK1, are you sure you want that?
[03:51] <eaglestar> hi i am having net optimization problems how do i check the configuration i am only downloading 76kbs and upload 1.3 but my connection is 650kbs download 2.2 mbs upload
[03:51] <cabrey> CarlFK1, System > Administration > Services
[03:51] <CarlFK1> cabrey: yes
[03:51] <linux> zaniel_: could be the disks are they dvd-rw?
[03:52] <cabrey> eaglestar, kilobits or kilobytes
[03:52] <shiznebit> eaglestar: ubuntu in general is optimized from the start
[03:52] <eaglestar> kilobytes
[03:52] <ha1331_> eaglestar: what connection you have, more upstream than down?
[03:52] <The_Frustrated> Anyone familiar with not being able to boot from an XP install CD? I'm trying to reinstall XP back onto this machine. (Ubuntu on another) But I just boots directly into Ubuntu (even though BIOS is set to boot from CD before HD)
[03:52] <CarlFK1> cabrey: well,  I removed nvidia (doing some debugging) so currently only get a dialog ~"nvidia not found" - was hoping there was something I could do in a shell
[03:52] <eaglestar> shiznebit, but the last 2 days my net is running super slow
[03:53] <zaniel_> Linux: actually I tried burning a cdr
[03:53] <cabrey> eaglestar, we have to make sure were nnot confusing kilo bits/bytes
[03:53] <shiznebit> eaglestar: you could try using MultiGet. And do a test download with it.
[03:53] <linux> zaniel_: are they CD-rw disks?  People have reported problems with the -rw.
[03:54] <LosFrijoles> The_Frustrated: have you tried it on another computer to see if the disks are even bootable
[03:54] <zaniel_> Lunux: no it was cdr
[03:54] <linux> I have used both Gnomebaker and Basero - make sure all he CD-Rom extras are installe - check synaptic
[03:54] <coreyman> I am installing an application, and it says it requires 32 bit jre, i have 64 bit.... how do i install the 32 bit? I used sudo apt-get install openjdk-6-jre
[03:54] <ha1331_> eaglestar: 2Mbits is around 2-220KB, atleast that's what I have experienced
[03:54] <The_Frustrated> LosFrijoles, yes, the CD works on another machine.
[03:55] <The_Frustrated> LosFrijoles, it doesn't recognize any keypress on the "Press any key to boot from CD" message. But I can enter BIOS through keypresses earlier in boot sequence.
[03:55] <linux> zaniel_: can't think of the name of it - but the package had to do with cd data formats
[03:56] <JollyRancher> Hi. o_o
[03:58] <LosFrijoles> The_Frustrated: Is it an older bios?
[03:58] <zaniel_> Linux I will try that I have the error log for anyone that can read them I am a linux noob
[03:58] <linux> zaniel_: cdrdao is one of them to add
[03:58] <The_Frustrated> LosFrijoles, not really, 4 years or so..
[03:58] <brrybnds> is there an issue with 9.04 and ntfs-3g; i'm getting an: error reading from file: input/output error  (writes to the drive seem to work at a normal speed, reads work until ~100Mb and then the system will hang, any ideas?
[03:59] <LosFrijoles> The_Frustrated: So it does go into the cd menu?
[03:59] <LosFrijoles> but it doesn't see keypresses?
[03:59] <cabrey> brrybnds, sounds like a bad drive
[03:59] <The_Frustrated> LosFrijoles, nope, nothing. Acts as if there isn't a keypress. It is a USB keyboard so i'm wondering if it just isn't registering the keypress at all. But that doesn't make sense, since I can bring up BIOS menu from the start.
[04:00] <ha1331_> The_Frustrated: are you 100% sure the disk is bootable?
[04:00] <The_Frustrated> ha1331_ yes
[04:01] <The_Frustrated> ha1331_ 100%
[04:01] <LosFrijoles> The_Frustrated: try a different keyboard?
[04:01] <lancerocke> is there a gnome picasa equivalent?
[04:01] <linux> zaniel_: Try adding cdrdao through synaptic
[04:01] <cabrey> lancerocke, picasa?
[04:01] <Scunizi> The_Frustrated: or try an adaptor to go from usb to ps2 if your machine has a ps2 input
[04:01] <zaniel_> Linux thanks
[04:01] <lancerocke> cabrey, google's picasa yes
[04:01] <cabrey> lancerocke, picasa for linux
[04:01] <The_Frustrated> LosFrijoles, about to, just pulled it out. =) I know the drive is good as well, because I can see it mounted on my desktop right now.
[04:01] <linux> zaniel_: your welcome :)
[04:01] <lancerocke> cabrey, well it lacks some features like 'open file'
[04:02] <The_Frustrated> LosFrijoles, brb, trying,
[04:02] <LinuxNIT> im haveing issues with firefox freezeing when using adobe flash, in jaunty amd64 fresh install, i also had this issue in an upgrade from intrepid. The problem did not occur using intrepids kernel but it did with jauntys kernel, is there a fix for this?
[04:02] <losher> The_Frustrated: You seem to have covered most of the options. It's just possible that your particular reader is not compatible with that particular brand of cd-r. Rare, but not unheard of...
[04:02] <ha1331_> The_Frustrated: try without any hd present, atleast that way you can force it to boot from cd, atleast on some situations/configurations. You wont achieve the goal, but possibly more information
[04:02] <cabrey> lancerocke, File > Add file to Picasa...
[04:02] <kyzylsungur> hi all
[04:02] <LinuxNIT> i also noticed that shutdow/restart some times freezes as well with the new kernel
[04:02] <lancerocke> cabrey, no 'open file'
[04:03] <LosFrijoles> ha1331: i think his cd is booting, but its not getting keypresses at the ubuntu menu
[04:03] <cabrey> lancerocke, it's the same thing
[04:03] <lancerocke> cabrey, like when ur previewing the image and u wanna open the file with ur default image viewer
[04:03] <cabrey> lancerocke, you mean double click on image and it will open it with picasa?
[04:03] <LosFrijoles> ha1331_: i think his cd is booting, but its not getting keypresses at the ubuntu menu
[04:03] <Scunizi> LosFrijoles: maybe he's got the keyboard plugged into a hub that isn't being recognized right off the bat?
[04:03] <lancerocke> cabrey, no i mean 'right click>open file
[04:03] <zaniel_> Linux it is already added
[04:03] <tomtommy> is there an application on ubuntu that checks multiple email accccounts, similar to Pop Peeper on Windows?
[04:04] <lancerocke> cabrey, after u have already double clicked th ethumbnail
[04:04] <ha1331_> LosFrijoles: hmm, I've experienced the same, but it wasn't matter of not getting key presses, it was just doing something. Needed to wait for a while and then it started to respond
[04:04] <cabrey> lancerocke, I right clicked on one of the images and selected open file, then it opened it in eye of gnome
[04:04] <zaniel_> Linux I think it might of had something to do with using nero linux
[04:04] <linux> zaniel_: hmm....what program are you using to burn cd's?
[04:04] <ha1331_> LosFrijoles: while was like 30s or so
[04:04] <lancerocke> cabrey, not for me. ill show u a screenshot
[04:04] <zaniel_> Linux look uo
[04:04] <linux> zaniel_: I didn't know nero had a linux version?
[04:04] <Scunizi> cabrey: what are you trying to open it ?
[04:05] <cabrey> lancerocke, do you have picasa 3 or 2?
[04:05] <zaniel_> Linux yup apparantly not that good
[04:05] <matrixblue> I have a thinkpad t41 and I can't get jaunty or intrepid to recognize that I have a wireless card. lspci lshw nor iwconfig show any mention of a wireless card
[04:05] <linux> zaniel_: did you try the default burner in Gnome?
[04:05] <kyzylsungur> Do you use K3B for burning CDs?
[04:05] <LosFrijoles> ha1331_: so maybe he isn't waiting long enough
[04:05] <lancerocke> cabrey, http://www.imagebam.com/image/045f1338411097
[04:05] <zaniel_> Linux: not yet
[04:05] <Kresnic> eem Hi!!, I need help translating open office to spanish -.-, I know its kinda ... but Im newby
[04:05] <losher> kyzylsungur: I use k3b sometimes...
[04:05] <lancerocke> cabrey, picasa 3
[04:06] <jvainio> how come linux says my system is TOO SLOW TO PLAY AVCHD --- while with Windows, it plays AVCHD just fine (although a bit choppy, but still, it works!) ... How can I fix this?
[04:06] <ha1331_> LosFrijoles: dunno, he went a way already, but I have had the same kind of what's wrong with my keyboard thin my self.
[04:06] <kyzylsungur> Losher: Which one do you burning software usually?
[04:06] <kyzylsungur> do you use :P
[04:06] <zaniel_> Linux will try as soon as I figure how to burn and Iso with default burner
[04:06] <Kresnic> Brasero!!!
[04:07] <bartek> Hi. For some reason my sound just stopped working today. I've rebooted but nothing really works. It seems if I use OSS via my sound manager that works, but before all my others worked - Where do you suggest I begin?
[04:07] <cabrey> lancerocke, hmm that function works perfectly for me. did you do what the error dialog suggested?
[04:07] <linux> zaniel_: go to the tools menu in the burner and should be an option there to burn image
[04:07] <sam555> can one upgrade from 8.04 to 9.04 or do you have to start from scratch installing 9.04?
[04:07] <Kresnic> eem someone can help me T_T
[04:07] <losher> kyzylsungur: k3b is ok, but there is a bug where it hangs if you ask it to verify. I just skip the verification step. Brasero I found even buggier. I mostly use command-line for burning...
[04:07] <LosFrijoles> sam555: look up enabling upgrades to 8.10 and then try upgrading from that
[04:08] <lancerocke> cabrey, not yet. just thought id go for a liux picasa equivalent instead
[04:08] <ha1331_> LosFrijoles: other thing that might be, if he tries to press the F3 to choose the keyboard layout on the first screen, that is used to select the lanquage. One actually needs to select the lanquage before being able to do anything else. Might be retard problem, but have seen this happen also.
[04:08] <sam555> LosFrijoles: gotcha1
[04:08] <linux> zaniel_: if it is Brasero - last button on the left side, bottom
[04:08] <LosFrijoles> sam555: i had to do something like that when i upgraded from 6 to 8.04
[04:08] <lancerocke> cabrey, gnome though
[04:08] <cabrey> lancerocke, you can try f-spot but imho it is not as good as picasa
[04:08] <lancerocke> thanks
[04:08] <Scunizi> lancerocke: there's also digicam
[04:08] <sam555> when creating dual booting computer, is it best to install ubuntu first or vista?
[04:08] <LosFrijoles> anybody know why opengl would go into software mode when users are switched?
[04:08] <linux> zaniel_: If its gnomebaker - its under tools
[04:09] <Scunizi> sam555: vista
[04:09] <LosFrijoles> ive always started out with windows
[04:09] <lancerocke> thanks
[04:09] <sam555> Scunizi: ok thanks
[04:09] <Scunizi> sam555: if you do it the other way around then you have to reinstall Grub.. and for someone new that can be a pain.
[04:10] <ha1331_> sam555: not sure about this, but there might be issues on vista if grub is present, because grub is used on pirated windowses to make the machine appear DELL or HP
[04:10] <ha1331_> sam555: something to do with how the crack's work
[04:11]  * Kresnic Can anyone help me ??
[04:11] <linux> zaniel_: any luck?
[04:11] <zaniel_> Linux I open brasero can't find the tools menu
[04:11] <Scunizi> sam555: this might help  http://apcmag.com/how_to_dualboot_vista_with_linux_vista_installed_first.htm
[04:11] <matrixblue> anybody?
[04:11] <brrybnds> cabrey: I've run smartmontools on the drive and have come up with this result: http://paste.ubuntu.com/191286/  (it passed, but are there other area's of concern noted) I'll admit I have more experience with failing disks in windows
[04:12] <Scunizi> !ask | Kresnic
[04:12] <fikst> is there a way to burn .toast images in ubuntu?
[04:12] <linux> zaniel_: sorry, in Brasero its the last button on the left side of the window "Burn Image"
[04:12] <BeatlesFan> hey all
[04:13] <linux> zaniel_: are you seeing it down the left side of the window, not menu bar
[04:13] <happyman> is xchat scripts the same as mirc scripts?
[04:13] <Jason2gs> When I try to mount my floppy drive (mount -t msdos /dev/fd0 /media/floppy) I get, "/dev/fd0 is not a valid block device"
[04:13] <sam555> Scunizi: yeah, I'm gonna install vista first and I did find that link
[04:13] <tomtommy> !wine
[04:13] <sam555> Scunizi: and ha1331: thanks
[04:13] <happyman> no dont use vista
[04:13] <tomtommy> happyman, I use vista
[04:13] <BeatlesFan> why use Vista when Ubuntu takes up less resources?
[04:14] <happyman> good point
[04:14] <ha1331_> BeatlesFan: well, some applications just don't run on linux
[04:14] <happyman> and its free
[04:14] <loganphyve> because of direct x 10 :-)
[04:14] <loganphyve> i use it to game. thats about it
[04:14] <ha1331_> BeatlesFan: and games if one plays them
[04:14] <sparr> How can X be in a mode my monitor doesn't support when xrandr reports that it is still in my default (working) mode (1280x1024@50)?  This happens most often when launching games, sometimes games I am certain use lower resolutions.  Attempting to do "DISPLAY=:0 xrandr -s 1" from a console results in X crashing.
[04:15] <BeatlesFan> oh yeah.. games
[04:15] <unop> Jason2gs, does /dev/fd0 exist?
[04:15] <BeatlesFan> I use my kid's xbox for games
[04:15] <zaniel_> Linux rying now it look like it is burning
[04:15] <bweee> hi
[04:15] <happyman> you know it would be cool to have a xchat scriping channel on ubuntu mirc server
[04:15] <linux> zaniel_: yay!  Good luck!
[04:15] <happyman> irc
[04:16] <hi3> anyone use git?
[04:16]  * linux waves good night
[04:16] <unop> happyman, try #xchat
[04:16]  * BeatlesFan has been Windows free for 3 weeks and counting
[04:16] <LinuxNIT> does the kernel for intrepid have support for ext4? kernel 2.6.27-11-generic
[04:17] <pik}> BeatlesFan: good for you!
[04:17] <hi3>  just installed tortoisegit , anyone use it?
[04:17] <lstarnes> LinuxNIT: not until 9.04
[04:17] <hi3> it says all my files are modified even though I haven't touched anything, what gives?
[04:17] <ha1331_> BeatlesFan: I've been for week or so. Have a laptop for things I need windows for, so technicly not free of the dicease, but close.
[04:18] <BeatlesFan> ha1331_: well, we still use it at work....and I can access work through VPN
[04:18] <LinuxNIT> lstarnes, does the kernel source for 2.6.27-11-generic have the capability?
[04:18] <lstarnes> LinuxNIT: no
[04:18] <BeatlesFan> ha1331_: can't help it, company policy to use Windows
[04:18] <LinuxNIT> grrrr
[04:18] <pik}> <-- 100% windows free for 8 months
[04:18] <lstarnes> LinuxNIT: it's not available until either .28 or .29
[04:18] <LinuxNIT> maybe .29 will work... .28 is giving me trouble
[04:18] <losher> LinuxNIT: why do you need ext4 anyway?
[04:19] <zaniel_> Linux didn't burn got an error and close the log accidently before it could complete
[04:19] <LinuxNIT> well i installed my system on it before i realized the kernel was going to be a problem
[04:19] <lstarnes> LinuxNIT: there should be some patches added by .30
[04:19] <LosFrijoles> BeatlesFan: I feel your pain
[04:19] <ha1331_> BeatlesFan: well, I wouldn't recomend linux for everybody, so kind of understand the policy on some level
[04:20] <pubuntu> ዘ!
[04:20] <quizme> anybody know a good torrent client for ubuntu 804 ?
[04:21] <zaniel_> Linux maybe I am using too many resources I will close the chat and only try to burn. this is old p4 with only 256mb of rambus ram
[04:21] <jmk6f4> I have an issue with Counter-Strike.  It had worked before, but then I installed two monitors and Twinview and it no longer will go fullscreen and when you try and change the resolution, there are no options available.  I have removed the second monitor and Twinview but it reoccurs.  9.04 Jaunty.
[04:21] <ha1331_> quizme: utorrent on wine.
[04:21] <losher> quizme: quite a few choices: Azureus, ktorrent, rtorrent, deluge, transmission, just to name a few....
[04:22] <LinuxNIT> lstarnes, can gparted migrate my ext4 partition to ext3 ?
[04:22] <davidisadevil> hey
[04:22] <lstarnes> LinuxNIT: I don't know
[04:22] <marybuntu> ok, time to show my ignorance.  i don't know how to back up my files from thunar onto a usb.  i have the usb mounted, and i opened thunar and tried to click and drag 'desktop' onto the usb icon on the desktop, but it doesn't copy.  what step am i missing?
[04:22] <LinuxNIT> lstarnes, ok thanks
[04:23] <ha1331_> losher: I know nobody uses internet for illegal purposes, we all use it for distro images, but let's say just for the sake of discussion, that one would... usually those sites don't accept not that many clients
[04:23] <pubuntu> ዘ&ዘ
[04:23] <davidisadevil> ...
[04:24] <losher> LinuxNIT: see http://mediakey.dk/~cc/migrate-existing-ext3-filesystems-to-ext4/ -- "once you convert your filesystem to Ext4 you won’t be able to go back to Ext3 again"
[04:24] <quizme> losher: which one do you use ?
[04:25] <dkkong> I'm having a problem mounting a photo sd card. I believe after viewing the fdisk -l output, it's because I have two drives receiving the same identifier. (sdb1). Is this correctable?
[04:25] <ibmman> come join #xchatscripting for all your scripting needs
[04:26] <TomTommy>  I installed Wine.. how do I know install Pop Peeper?
[04:27] <froes> hey... i connect to the internet with a 3G dongle. sometimes it does not work. i have to restart the linux, then it works. tryed to unload the option module and load it again, tryed a lot of things but none worked. can somebody give me a hint?
[04:27] <racecar56> i made a remaster and i want the lvie cd to add a user called 'live' on the startup of the disc?
[04:27] <racecar56> *live
[04:27] <losher> ha1331: quizme: personally. I use rtorrent, because certain sites I use are very restrictive about which clients they will accept, but for beginners, Azureus is pretty full featured if a bit of a resource hog
[04:28] <TomTommy> how do you install programs using wine?
[04:28] <ha1331_> losher: what's wrong with utorrent?
[04:28] <LinuxNIT> losher, ok thanks
[04:28] <racecar56> TomTommy, you do it like you do on windows
[04:28] <ibmman> hoe come none of the torrent programs use seeds?
[04:28] <ibmman> how
[04:28] <racecar56> TomTommy, open .exe, poof
[04:28] <TomTommy> i installed wine, but when i click on application/wine/configure wine, nothing happens?
[04:28] <TomTommy> racecar56: open? how?
[04:28] <ha1331_> TomTommy: usually right clickin on the .exe file has option for installing with wine
[04:28] <racecar56> TomTommy, double click
[04:29] <krammer> how do i enable desktop effects
[04:29] <racecar56> krammer, easy
[04:29] <racecar56> krammer, right click desktop
[04:29] <TomTommy> ha1331: thank you
[04:29] <losher> ha1331: nothing wrong with utorrent per se, except that you have to run it under wine which it too many layers for me. I like to keep stuff as simple as possible
[04:29] <racecar56> krammer, change desktop background
[04:29] <ha1331_> TomTommy: some software need's tweaking, but I'm thinking there usually are good instructions how to make it happen
[04:29] <racecar56> krammer, visual effects
[04:30] <racecar56> i made a remaster and i want the live cd to add a user called 'live' on the startup of the os, how do i do that?
[04:30] <ha1331_> losher: agree on the principal. Maybe I'm just getting old and stiff on the app's I prefer.
[04:30] <losher> ha1331: quizme: no shortage of choices. Just look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_BitTorrent_clients
[04:30] <krammer> racecar56: i tried but error could not be enabled i know it worked because i used ubuntu few years ago
[04:30] <balingup> hi guys, any one able to help with problems in crossover? trying to set up swap has disabled my photoshop  install
[04:30] <disappearedng> Hey everyone how come my n doesn't work in the terminal? it's pasting instead of printing N
[04:30] <racecar56> krammer, maybe you have a wimpy viedo card
[04:30] <racecar56> krammer, video
[04:30] <racecar56> krammer, did you install the drivers?
[04:30] <krammer> really nvididagtx 280 is wimpy?
[04:31] <racecar56> krammer, install the drivers
[04:31] <krammer> done that
[04:31] <racecar56> krammer, i didn't know you had a nvidia gtx
[04:31] <racecar56> krammer, from nvidia's website, right?
[04:31] <krammer> then why say a wimpy card?
[04:31] <racecar56> krammer, i didn't KNOW you had one.
[04:31] <racecar56> krammer, i thought you didn't have a good video card
[04:31] <losher> ha1331: one of the sites I use a lot says: "We've banned many clients for either putting too much load on our tracker or behaving in non-standard ways. These banned clients include Shareaza, Fando, eDonkey (libtorrent), MLdonkey, Transmission, BitComet (and any client based on it such as BitLord) and CFNetwork. Many older versions of Azureus and uTorrent are banned, mostly for announcing too...
[04:31] <losher> ...often. "
[04:32] <krammer> racecar56: the fresh install picked up the nvidia drivers and installed it
[04:32] <racecar56> krammer, k
[04:32] <something> I noticed my wifi stopped working today, maybe after I did an update on my 9.0.4 netbook remix
[04:32] <darlek> !ubottu | darlek
[04:32] <krammer> do i need to install root to use it?
[04:32] <Rick316> hello is anyone there
[04:33] <racecar56> krammer, ?
[04:33] <darlek> !nvidia
[04:33] <krammer> how to log on a root ?  sudo or su?
[04:33] <Maximo> !hello
[04:33] <swoody> is anyone here good with networking issues? My fiancee's wireless card works in XP, but has dissapeared from iwconfig, ifconfig, and lspci in Ubuntu??
[04:33] <racecar56> krammer, sudo -s
[04:33] <something> has anyone experienced wifi stopped working after an update?
[04:33] <Scunizi> !hello | Rick316
[04:33] <swoody> something:  I have, but I'm still working on resolving the issue :(
[04:33] <racecar56> something, wifi card
[04:33] <racecar56> something, wat is it
[04:33] <sam555> how many primary drives can one computer have?
[04:34] <Rick316> I am trying to install my first Ubuntu server but I cant seem to get the GUI interface to start
[04:34] <racecar56> sam555, depends
[04:34] <something> racecar56: not sure what kind, but it's an acer aspire one
[04:34] <darlek> swoody, what is the name of the wifi card?
[04:34] <Rick316> All I get is the terminal prompt.
[04:34] <racecar56> sam555, how many slots you have...
[04:34] <something> swoody: did your wife used to work?
[04:34] <Rick316> I can log in but that is about it.
[04:34] <tomtommy> every since I installed wine, my ubuntu is slow as hell. takes ages to open things and ages to display on screen.. and my fan goes wild since.. whats causing that?
[04:34] <racecar56> sam555, up to 26 hard drives i believe are supported
[04:34] <swoody> something:  it used to
[04:34] <something> swoody: wifi I mean, what kind laptop?
[04:34] <swoody> darlek:  one sec. I have to google it
[04:34] <kohlrak> For some reason, running certain applications causes x to act as if i ctrl-alt-backspaced... anyone ever heard of this?
[04:34] <balingup> Hello, help with Crossover photoshop anyone?
[04:35] <something> swoody: how long ago did it used to work?
[04:35] <swoody> something:  Toshiba Satelite someting or another
[04:35] <swoody> something:  before trying to upgrade to 9.04
[04:35] <racecar56> how to make ubuntu remaster add a user called live on startup of it
[04:35] <sam555> S_SubZero: i'm trying to dual boot vista and ubuntu and within each os i want to have paritions.  vista is making 2 primary partitions for system and data and I want to still have a 3rd primary for ubuntu
[04:35] <sam555> racecar56: see above
[04:35] <matrixblue>  I have a thinkpad t41 and I can't get jaunty or intrepid to recognize that I have a wireless card. lspci lshw nor iwconfig show any mention of a wireless card
[04:36] <losher> kohlrak: I've seen applications crash an X server, if that's what you mean. It's comparatively rare though...
[04:36] <Rick316> has anyone successfully installed Ubuntu 9.4 server?
[04:36] <racecar56> sam555, ?
[04:36] <swoody> darlek:  it's an Atheros something or another...
[04:36] <racecar56> 9.04
[04:36] <racecar56> Rick316, on a....
[04:36] <kohlrak> losher: well, i have one application here that produces it pretty well. I've ran it using >> log, and it appears to crash on a "resize" operation... Could this be the cause?
[04:36] <Michael> where can i find the file to set up a virtual host so a domain goes to a certain directory ?
[04:36] <Rick316> yes racecar that is what I am attempting to install
[04:37] <losher> racecar56: did you google? I know I've seen sites talking about how to make a remaster with custom changes
[04:37] <Rick316> right now on a VM
[04:37] <racecar56> losher, :/
[04:37] <Rick316> I need to test it to make sure that it will do what we need it to do.
[04:37] <Rick316> but the GUI interface wont load.
[04:37] <tomtommy> every since I installed wine, my ubuntu is slow as hell. takes ages to open things and ages to display on screen.. and my fan goes FULL BLAST when running Wine. whats causing that? is this normal?
[04:38] <losher> kohlrak: which app, on which OS version? It's reproducible?
[04:38] <sam555> racecar56: i'm trying to install vista and ubuntu. both will have 125gb dedicated to each drive. within each os I'm making paritions.  vista will have a system and data drive.  Vista is making them both primary drives.  Ubuntu will have a root, swap and home drive with the root being primary.  Is there a max on how many primary drives a computer can have?
[04:38] <kohlrak> losher: i was running an opengl 2.1 example from nehe's site. Lesson 2... Crashes every time i run it. Actually, it works fine until i close the program.
[04:39] <racecar56> sam555, idk
[04:39] <Rick316> hello?
[04:39] <sam555> racecar56: np
[04:39] <sam555> racecar56: i'm asking people in windows too cause someone should know
[04:39] <racecar56> Rick316, hi
[04:40] <Scunizi> sam555: 4 primary drives.. if you need more then make the 3rd an extended partition.  After that you can create more under the extended partition
[04:40] <kohlrak> losher: do you want a url?
[04:40] <sam555> Scunizi: thanks much!
[04:40] <Rick316> racecar56 can you tell me what I am doing wrong with this installation?
[04:40] <losher> kohlrak: sorry, I'm out of my depth at this point. Presumably a programming error? Is there no support list for the tutorial?
[04:40] <swoody> is anyone here good with networking issues? My fiancee's wireless card works in XP, but has dissapeared from iwconfig, ifconfig, and lspci in Ubuntu?? It's an Atheros card
[04:40] <darlek> !atheros | swoody
[04:40] <Derander> Is there a way to remove the disclaimer I get when I log on to a ubuntu box w/ ssh?
[04:40] <racecar56> Rick316, gui on server?
[04:41] <Scunizi> sam555: you might consider 3 partitions for your ubuntu install.. 8-12 gigs for / or root... 1-2gigs for /swap and the rest for /home
[04:41] <Rick316> yes
[04:41] <rob_p> Rick316, Server doesn't install the desktop by default.  Did you add that yourself?  Also, what's the point of that in the first place?
[04:41] <disappearedng> Hey quick question: when I ssh into another computer, which PS session am I in? how do I set the .bashrc for an ssh user?
[04:41] <darlek> swoody, I use madwifi but if you google ath5k ubuntu Jaunty and atheros you should find some help
[04:41] <Scunizi> sam555: most of your personally created files will reside in /home
[04:41] <mtw> where is some fucking retarded freenode staffer. hey, you, over here!
[04:41] <racecar56> #freenode?
[04:41] <unop> disappearedng, you usually have the ~/.bash_profile source the ~/.bashrc
[04:41] <Rick316> it was my understanding that the the server had a desktop GUI
[04:41] <mtw> banned there, race
[04:41] <losher> Derander: I think it's a configuration parameter in /etc/ssh/sshd_config. Perhaps Banner...?
[04:42] <unop> !language | mtw
[04:42] <mtw> ignoring that, moving on
[04:42] <Jason2gs> unop, yes. /dev/fd0 exists. Though, it didn't create itself automatically. I had to run MAKEFLOPPIES, if that matters.
[04:42] <mtw> any freenode staffers here
[04:42] <utnubuuser> Hi -- Anyone using tpfan for fan control on their thinkpad? -- Looking to use tpfan on an x31 running 8.04 and need a bit of help. Thnx.
[04:42] <rob_p> Rick316, nope, at least not by default.
[04:42] <racecar56> mtw, i dont think so
[04:42] <kohlrak> losher: i don't know of any help for it, but i would assume that this is an OpenGL bug since this doesn't really do anything overly fancy.. the tut itself shows a triangle and a square XD
[04:42] <Mike_lifeguard> mtw: no, this is #ubuntu not #freenode & if you got banned there you might reconsider your behaviour
[04:42] <Rick316> can you tell me how to unstall on or at the least point me to where I can read how to unstall one.
[04:42] <kohlrak> losher: thanks for your help anyway, i'll see if downgrading to opengl1.0 tuts helps
[04:42] <disappearedng> unop: I don't have a ~/.bash_profile, do I have to create one or is the direct incorrect?
[04:43] <Rick316> install one
[04:43] <Mike_lifeguard> make it
[04:43] <disappearedng> and sourcing is just . ~/.bashrc
[04:43] <unop> disappearedng, you can create one
[04:43] <Mike_lifeguard> (which is kinda confusing since instructions always say to "edit" it not "create it or edit it if it already exists")
[04:43] <rob_p> Rick316, Why load server if you want a desktop?
[04:43] <Rick316> why not
[04:44] <Rick316> is there a performance sacrifice?
[04:44] <sam555> Scunizi: thanks much!
[04:44] <rob_p> Rick316, because it's unnecessary
[04:44] <Scunizi> sam555: np :)
[04:44] <rob_p> Rick316, huge
[04:44] <losher> Rick316: I don't think there's much to it. Something like sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop. Check google for the exact wording...
[04:45] <Revelation> hey im new to linux and just installed ubuntu 9.0.4 64bit today.
[04:45] <Revelation> how do I get flash?
[04:45] <cryptide> Revelation: congratulations
[04:45] <darlek> !flash
[04:45] <usser> Revelation, sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[04:45] <Revelation> thanks usser
[04:45] <Rick316> thank you
[04:46] <rob_p> Rick316, Why waste cpu cycles and RAM to support a full UI when the purpose of a server is to serve up data?
[04:46] <Derander> losher: I found that parameter.  It seems as though Banner is in addition to the default message.
[04:46] <losher> Derander: see also PrintMotd parameter
[04:46] <Revelation> usser: would you know how to get sound working on my laptop? my sound stoped working after I installed ubuntu 9.0.4 64bit
[04:46] <Rick316> like i said still getting my feet wet with this server.  Coming from a Windows world and not really comfortable with the text based linux yet.
[04:46] <losher> Derander: motd = message of the day
[04:46] <Derander> losher: yes
[04:47] <Rick316> again thank you
[04:47] <Derander> losher: aha, there we go.
[04:47] <rob_p> Rick316, It sounds to me like you want a desktop with some server capabilities.  In that case, simply install the desktop edition and then bring in the server apps you want to play with.
[04:47] <rance> Hey gang, I need some help with xorg configuration, I have vision trouble and I need to specify resolutions in my xorg.conf so that the various parts of ubuntu arent too hard to see, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg no longer asks for resolutions, what do I need to do?
[04:47] <rob_p> Rick316, welcome!  good luck.
[04:47] <Derander> losher: thanks
[04:47] <darthanubis> !blind
[04:47] <usser> Revelation, there can be a multitude of reasons why sound doesnt work. im not very good with sound anyway it kinda always worked for me. what does it say when you run alsamixer on the terminal?
[04:47] <losher> Rick316: much easier to start with the desktop. You can always remove it later...
[04:47] <darthanubis> !accessibility
[04:48] <darlek> !xorg
[04:48] <losher> Derander: pleasure
[04:48] <darthanubis> rance,
[04:48] <darthanubis> There is a menu for such configuration
[04:49] <utnubuuser> anybody? tpfan?
[04:49] <scott_ino2> can someone tell me what command i should execute so i can see if im running the radeonHD driver or the regular ati driver (neither of which are proprietary fglrx which I don't want)
[04:50] <Mike_lifeguard> someone should fix !xorg -- people will try to literally do sudo /etc/init.d/?dm
[04:50] <racecar56> how to make ubuntu remaster add a user called live on startup of it? cant find any pacges
[04:50] <Revelation> How can I get sound working on ubuntu 9.0.4 64bit
[04:50] <darlek> Mike_lifeguard, you can comment to ubottu for a change.
[04:51] <Mike_lifeguard> I can? O-o
[04:51] <scott_ino2> Revelation, what seems to be your issue.
[04:51] <darlek> Mike_lifeguard, | !help
[04:51] <racecar56> !help | Mike_lifeguard
[04:51] <darlek> !help | Mike_lifeguard
[04:51] <Revelation> scott_ino2:   The sound on my laptop isnt working now that I installed ubuntu
[04:51] <Revelation> scott_ino2: it works on windows
[04:51] <matt_ubuntu> hey guys, i have a problem.  if anyones there, please tell me
[04:52] <darlek> Mike_lifeguard, you send a command to it, and someone reviews it.
[04:52] <losher> rance: not what you asked for, but interesting pointers on Ubuntu for the blind at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=376855
[04:52] <Mike_lifeguard> zomg you guise, I know how to find the docs
[04:52] <Mike_lifeguard> let's assume I'm not braindead please
[04:52] <matt_ubuntu> can someone help me in a different window?
[04:52] <scott_ino2> Revelation, pm me
[04:52] <Revelation> ok
[04:52] <darlek> I sent one and now !pastebinit is active, so it works fine
[04:53] <coreyman> How can I install the 32 bit eclipse from apt-get in my 64 bit system.
[04:53] <racecar56> how to make ubuntu remaster add a user called live on startup of it?
[04:53] <ixpl> possible to run ettercap remotely via ssh?
[04:54] <raj> what's the command to run skype, but if it's running bring it forward?
[04:55] <Scunizi> raj: if it's running there'll be an icon up by the clock/date.. click it..
[04:55] <raj> no, i want a kb shortcut
[04:55] <raj> that's why i'm using linux
[04:55] <Scunizi> raj: you'll have to create it.
[04:55] <raj> never have to use a mouse
[04:55] <raj> yeah, i know how to create it
[04:56] <raj> i just need to know the command to run skype, or if it's running, restore it
[04:56] <losher> Mike_lifeguard: we never assume that about users. It's wrong too often....
[04:56] <jumbojack> explain
[04:56] <ixpl> possible to run ettercap remotely via ssh? ihave gotten errors before
[04:56] <Schmick_> Hi, a friend just upgraded from 8.10 to 9.04 (against my advice) and his box is very slugish now. He wants to go back to 8.10, but I havn't seen a "system downgrade" option anywhere. Is a fresh install the only option?
[04:56] <jumbojack> yes we can
[04:56] <raj> can someone please tell me?
[04:57] <jumbojack> :)
[04:57] <losher> ixpl: Ah, now that's more interesting. Exactly what kind of errors?
[04:57] <Audacioustrash> Hello everyone
[04:57] <Scunizi> Schmick_: yep.. hopefully he has a seperate /home
[04:57] <ixpl> hold on i will have them
[04:57] <losher> Schmick_: 'afraid so. He was supposed to have backup up 8.10 before upgrading...
[04:57] <darlek> raj, how is what you want different that alt+tab?
[04:57] <darlek> than
[04:57] <andrei__> hello every one
[04:58] <raj> a shortcut to bring up skype
[04:58] <Schmick_> Scunizi: I can backup his /home, no problem with that, but, is there or not an sys downgrade option? (got 2 opposite answers here)
[04:58] <raj> "skype" would just run a new instance of itself if the command in terminal was just skype
[04:58] <andrei__> does any one know how to make a backup of ubuntu
[04:58] <andrei__> ?
[04:59] <Scunizi> Schmick_: nothing that doesn't involve deep insight into the system..
[04:59] <GleepGlop> i have a fresh install that is randomly freezing
[04:59] <losher> !backup
[04:59] <Schmick_> Scunizi: Perfect, then backup, kill and reinstall. Thx!
[04:59] <darlek> raj, if I run skype it's a GUI program.  If I use alt+tab, I can tab around to all running programs.  I don't follow the question
[04:59] <GleepGlop> The cursor moves real slow then  . . ..  freeze
[04:59] <soreau> GleepGlop: What does it say in Sys>Prefs>Appearance>Visual Effects?
[05:00] <losher> Schmick_: there is no downgrade option afaik....
[05:00] <raj> darlek, i only want one keyboard shortcut to open skype, whether 1 window is conjointly open or 30
[05:00] <GleepGlop> soreau: im not using compiz
[05:00] <uskrewed> Hulo all, I've tried to gain ownership of a folder using sudo chown username /media/1500
[05:00] <soreau> GleepGlop: Can you see any mesg in the kernel log?
[05:00] <uskrewed> it seems to go through just fine in terminal but when I check o nproperties of the folder it hasn't been changed
[05:01] <uskrewed> I then tried sudo chown -R user:group /media/1500 and that didn't work either
[05:01] <GleepGlop> soreau: i've been checking dmesg to no avail
[05:02] <losher> uskrewed: what kind of filesystem is it?
[05:02] <uskrewed> ntfs
[05:02] <uskrewed> haha. I just realized that was my problem
[05:02] <losher> uskrewed: I'm not sure permissions work the same way in ntfs...
[05:02] <soreau> GleepGlop: What devices does dmesg report? nothing suspicious? What about ~/.xsession-errors?
[05:02] <uskrewed> they don't, I wasn't thinking
[05:02] <uskrewed> thank you anyway
[05:02] <uskrewed> I'll go google it >>
[05:03] <losher> uskrewed: :-)
[05:04] <uskrewed> need ntfs-3g
[05:04] <uskrewed> completely forgot
[05:04] <losher> uskrewed: sounds right....
[05:04] <GleepGlop> soreau: no xession errors other than failed to read session file
[05:04] <uskrewed> real facepalm moment
[05:05] <soreau> GleepGlop: Anything in /var/log/Xorg.0.log or, Xorg.1.log
[05:05] <GleepGlop> soreau:no, i checked there too.  there is a bug that fits my symptoms: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntustudio/+bug/368638
[05:05] <losher> uskrewed: Oh, I've heard far, far worse. Anything beginning with "I typed rm -rf / and now..."
[05:06] <krammer> trying to play a video but getting a a square with a black back ground
[05:06] <uskrewed> I don't understand why people would suggest doing that to people
[05:06] <uskrewed> why grief?
[05:07] <uskrewed> also one more thing
[05:07] <losher> uskrewed: I read an article about them: called griefers, they exist to give people grief. It happens....
[05:07] <uskrewed> there's a space in the fiolder name and I can't access it in terminal
[05:07] <uskrewed> even using %20 instead of a space
[05:07] <uskrewed> is there any other way to access it in terminal?
[05:08] <losher> uskrewed: use quotes around the name e.g.  ls -l 'this name'
[05:08] <usser> uskrewed, cd folder\ name
[05:08] <Flannel> uskrewed: You need to escape te space with \.  Or tab complete will do it for you
[05:08] <GleepGlop> soreau: I'm sure it's related to the realtime preemption and nvidia drivers. yet it freezes so fast nothing gets logged :/
[05:08] <Flannel> uskrewed: just type a few letters and hit tab, and it'll autocomplete (assuming its not ambiguous)
[05:08] <soreau> GleepGlop: nVidia drivers have been known to cause strange problems indeed
[05:08] <uskrewed> tab thing worked, thanks
[05:09] <krammer> trying to play a video but getting a a square with a black back ground
[05:09] <GleepGlop> soreau: i have arch linux and nvidia drivers (188) on the same machine and have never  had any lockups
[05:09] <losher> uskrewed: all the suggestions should work, tab completion, backslash, quotes...
[05:09] <soreau> GleepGlop: Probably why it's a ubuntu bug
[05:10] <GleepGlop> soreau: good time to change distros
[05:10] <losher> krammer: what kind of file, which player?
[05:10] <soreau> GleepGlop: Good time to go ati ;)
[05:10] <krammer> mplayer
[05:10] <Jason2gs> When I try to mount my floppy drive (mount -t msdos /dev/fd0 /media/floppy) I get, "/dev/fd0 is not a valid block device" - /dev/fd0 exists, though it was not automatically created the first time the floppy  drive was mounted (if it should've been, I think it should've...), I had to create it with MAKEFLOPPIES. If that matters.
[05:11] <GleepGlop> soreau: well, i can fork out any more $$$ I already have an nvidia 9800 gts
[05:11] <krammer> is vlc still recommended?
[05:11] <GleepGlop> cant*
[05:11] <wolf23> help please! i have installed ubuntu 9.04 but i dont know if the partitions are right or not? :(
[05:11] <Paddy_EIRE> floppy drive...?  those still exist :O
[05:11] <soreau> GleepGlop: Then you're in it for the long haul. Happy trails friend :)
[05:11] <losher> krammer: 50% answered, 50% to go...
[05:11] <Jason2gs> Paddy_EIRE, I salvaged it from an old eMachine :D
[05:11] <GleepGlop> soreau: thanks for the help.
[05:12] <Paddy_EIRE> Jason2gs: I dont know why you would want to do that but.. enjoy :-/
[05:12] <Mister> Hey everyone!
[05:12] <uskrewed> wait... this should allow me to use it, right?
[05:12] <uskrewed> /dev/sdb5 /media/1500 ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_US.utf8 0 0
[05:12] <krammer> losher: i also need adobe for my chess game but when i install error Error: Wrong architecture 'i386'
[05:13] <Mister> Does anyone else have an HP Pavillion dv1000?
[05:13] <samtihen> i was having some wierd QT app redraw issues with the 180 nvidia driver, and they went away when i reverted to the 173 driver
[05:13] <Paddy_EIRE> !anyone | Mister
[05:13] <Randabis> ok...is there a backup tool for linux that doesn't suck? :) I want one that is smart enough to know that my backup (40 gig) is going to need to use more than one dvd
[05:13] <Mister> Ah.
[05:13] <losher> krammer: one thing at a time. You still haven't said what kind of file you're trying to play
[05:13] <Paddy_EIRE> Mister: I have experience with that particular model.. what is your question?
[05:13] <krammer> yes
[05:14] <Mister> It's about the wifi button.
[05:14] <Paddy_EIRE> yeah
[05:14] <Mister> I'm sure you know
[05:14] <Mister> D:
[05:14] <Mister> It doesn't illuminate!
[05:14] <ixpl> gimme a minute losher finishing setup/config of my siduxbox(sshd)
[05:14] <Paddy_EIRE> Mister: well it never turned the wifi on or off when I last used it.. but then again the wifi was always on
[05:14] <losher> ixpl: take your time...
[05:14] <Mister> I'm running CrunchBang Linux, which I understand is based on ubuntu, so I figured I could get some help here.
[05:15] <Mister> 'wireless is disabled'
[05:15] <Mister> Problem is, I don't know how to enable it.
[05:15] <Mister> Is there some sort of terminal command that could enable it?
[05:15] <Paddy_EIRE> Mister: have you checked your bios to make sure it is enabled?
[05:15] <Randabis> Mister: what wireless hardware do you have?
[05:15] <taylor> How do you completely format your hdd in ubuntu without an xp cd
[05:15] <krammer> mista are using a laptop?
[05:15] <Mister> It worked on XP, so it's not my hardware
[05:15] <Mister> Yeah, HP Pavillion dv1000
[05:16] <Scunizi> taylor: using the live cd or an install.. use gparted
[05:16] <uskrewed> have you checked your network connections?
[05:16] <uskrewed> its at the top next to your date/time
[05:16] <Randabis> Mister: your hardware might not be supported "out of the box". What wireless hardware is in the laptop?
[05:16] <Mister> And I really hate to be one of those guys who come in here and ask questions and don't contribute anything.
[05:16] <krammer> Mister: google how to turn on wireless using fn keys
[05:16] <Mister> How could I check? :D
[05:16] <Mister> fn keys?
[05:16] <Mister> Alright, I'll be right back. Thanks!
[05:16] <darlek> !wireless | Mister
[05:16] <uskrewed> fn is the blue key
[05:16] <uskrewed> bottom left of your keyboard, Mister
[05:16] <Randabis> Mister:  post the output of lspci to paste.ubuntu.com
[05:17] <krammer> fn+ 5 or up
[05:17] <Randabis> and gimme a link
[05:17] <uskrewed> I really think the easy route is best first, guys... noobs make noob mistakes... trust me, I know
[05:17] <taylor> Scunizi: okay, and when I try to boot with windows xp cd, it gives me a bsod, something about the installer being messed up, will formatting fix this?
[05:17] <darlek> !pastebinit | Mister
[05:17] <sinyoali> hgfj
[05:17] <darlek> lspci | pastebinit
[05:17] <uskrewed> Mister: on the top right of your screen there is a network connections icon, right click it and goto 'Edit Connections'
[05:17] <Revelation> can someone give me the command to install devede
[05:18] <Mister> Alright, I'm at edit connections. What now?
[05:18] <Randabis> Mister: lspci will tell us what hardware you have
[05:18] <Mister> Hah, never thought too many answers would be a good thing
[05:18] <whatvn> !devede
[05:18] <RHorse> sudo apt-get install devede?
[05:18] <uskrewed> goto wireless, Mister
[05:18] <MHz128> nautilus always creates a snapshop icon for video files.... with many files in a directory, making these snapshot's takes too long..... how do I make nautilus display the same icon for each video?
[05:18] <Revelation> ill try it
[05:18] <uskrewed> and then add a connection
[05:18] <Mister> I'm there
[05:18] <uskrewed> you have all the information for the connect, right?
[05:19] <Mister> I don't have a definite connection, I sort of sap my neighbors. Haha.
[05:19] <Mister> So..I'm not sure of the information I'd need to input.
[05:19] <uskrewed> So it's not password protected?
[05:19] <Randabis> does anyone have a suggestion for a good backup utility? I specifically need the ability to use multiple disks...my backup is gonna take like 10 dvds
[05:20] <uskrewed> If not you can just put in an SSID (the network name) and hit okay
[05:20] <Mister> I'm not picking anything up, because wireless isn't enabled
[05:20] <Mister> I'll try netgear
[05:20] <Mister> 'cause there's always a netgear
[05:20] <krammer> lol
[05:20] <Randabis> Mister: please post the output of lspci..use lspci | pastebinit in a terminal and post the link here
[05:20] <krammer> your nic needs to see the network
[05:20] <ford> hello all, i am having trouble with ubuntu studio its a DAMN 1394 issue, can any one help?
[05:21] <Mister> I'll send a screenie. Brb.
[05:21] <Randabis> I don't need a screenshot...I just want to see the output of lspci so I can see what wireless device your laptop uses
[05:22] <darlek> !tab
[05:22] <Randabis> knowing which hardware your laptop uses will allow me to better assist you in getting your wifi setup and working
[05:22] <jcp> Is there a way to install drivers for the sony vaio webcam in ubuntu? I've done some google searches but nothing seems to be conclusive about it.
[05:22] <ihavnoth> ^.^
[05:23] <darlek> !who
[05:23] <whatvn> jsp: you must know name of your wc
[05:23] <jcp> whatvn: you mean jcp?
[05:23] <whatvn> jcp: yes, sorry
[05:23] <jcp> and how do I find that out. lsusb didn't print anything about a webcam in the output
[05:23] <jcp> heh, np
[05:24] <losher> Randabis: I've heard people recommend backuppc and mondo. Disclaimer: I've never used either...
[05:24] <Paddy_EIRE> jcp: if you are currently using the Vaio could you open a terminal and type "lspci" without the quotes then press enter, once done copy the output and paste it to pastebin
[05:24] <jcp> ok
[05:24] <Paddy_EIRE> !paste | jcp
[05:24]  * jcp goes to do that
[05:24] <losher> !backup
[05:24] <grendal_prime>  hey guys, I got this issue with an nfs mount.  I get a werid protocol error when someone sftp's into this box and tries to modify an existing file that is available via an nfs mount.
[05:24] <whatvn> jcp: if driver is not installed, you cannot use lsusb to find name of your wc, lspci same as lsusb
[05:24] <grendal_prime> anyone familar with that sceen?
[05:24] <tyler_d> I am unable to run users-admin it gives me a message stating You are not allowed to access the system configuration. ?? running gksu users-admin produces as locked ??
[05:25] <SunnyD> Paddy_EIRE: does "lspci" enumerate all hardware except the USB ones
[05:25] <Paddy_EIRE> SunnyD: yes more or less
[05:25] <SunnyD> Paddy_EIRE: thanks
[05:25] <jcp> Paddy_EIRE: http://paste.ubuntu.com/191333/
[05:26] <Paddy_EIRE> jcp: just a moment
[05:26] <jcp> ok
[05:26] <Randabis> nice...I should have tried !backup earlier..hehe thanks ubottu you rock
[05:26] <losher> grendal_prime: can you do any better on the error message than 'werid protocol error'?
[05:26] <Paddy_EIRE> jcb what is the model of you VAIO?
[05:26] <Paddy_EIRE> *your
[05:26] <matrixblue>  I have a thinkpad t41 and I can't get jaunty or intrepid to recognize that I have a wireless card. lspci lshw nor iwconfig show any mention of a wireless card
[05:27] <rtaveras> some body know how unlo one linksys for vonage ? model pap2
[05:27] <frankS2> pulseaudio is shit
[05:27] <grendal_prime> it actualy says Bad message.
[05:27] <tyler_d> no-one hey...
[05:27] <grendal_prime> hold on ill get it..
[05:28] <ixpl> losher: aww man : (  no errors. Maybe it was the midnight snack in the microwave: ) any way time to put the box in the attic : )
[05:28] <jcp> Paddy_EIRE: VGN-FZ298CE
[05:28] <frankS2> are ubuntu going to remove pulseaudio soon?
[05:28] <Paddy_EIRE> jcp Okay just a moment
[05:28] <frankS2> its driving me nuts
[05:28] <losher> ixpl: no errors is ok, I can live with that. Come back if it acts up again....
[05:29] <ixpl> losher: will do thanks
[05:29] <squidarthur> hi all. does anyone have any Experience with running a full ubuntu install from removable media? SD, high capacity USB thumb drive, anything like that?
[05:29] <losher> !usb
[05:30] <Mister> I return, after typing in lspci,  wlan0: ERROR while getting interface flags; No such device
[05:30] <squidarthur> losher: i was curious about how well it worked, what you used and was it fast enough
[05:31] <losher> squidarthur: Sorry, I've never used it myself. Perhaps someone else will comment....
[05:31] <ford> Hi all attempting to use ubuntu studio but having firewire issues. is there anyone here who might be able to assist
[05:32] <Paddy_EIRE> jcp: Could you open a terminal and type "ls /dev/video*"
[05:32] <squidarthur> losher: thanks anyways. there's quite a bit written about how to do it, but a lot less from people who actually use it.
[05:32] <Paddy_EIRE> jcp: let me know what is listed?
[05:32] <PuKa> a
[05:33] <Randabis> Mister: yeah it sounds like your hardware is not supported "out of the box"...we need to figure out what hardware you have...can you post the complete output of lspci somewhere like paste.ubuntu.com? don't post it in the channel
[05:34] <jcp> !pastebin
[05:34] <losher> squidarthur: for what it's worth, I've seen people talk about it on this channel occasionally, and no-one has mentioned poor performance that I recall. You could check the logs if desperate: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/
[05:34] <jcp> Paddy_EIRE: http://paste.ubuntu.com/191335/
[05:34] <jcp> basically, nothing
[05:35] <Paddy_EIRE> jcp: yeah.. is there a hotkey to turn your webcam on?
[05:35] <jcp> Paddy_EIRE: nope, it's normally always on in windows
[05:36] <Paddy_EIRE> jcp: have you tried installing an application called "cheese" to see if that detects your camera?
[05:36] <losher> jcp: Paddy_EIRE: that seems like a misfeature. *Always* on?
[05:36] <Paddy_EIRE> losher: I would not say its always on..
[05:37] <jcp> heh, I mean like all I have to do is open any webcam-using program in windows and it finds it
[05:37] <user654> hi there
[05:37] <jcp> as in I don't have to use a switch
[05:37] <Paddy_EIRE> probably whichever application interacts with it turns it on
[05:37] <jcp> Paddy_EIRE: cheese... I don't think I've heard of that
[05:37] <user654> is there a mp3 player in ubuntu which has plugins like dfx for winamp on windows ?
[05:37] <jcp> will apt-get install cheese get it?
[05:37] <Paddy_EIRE> jcp: open a terminal and type "sudo apt-get install cheese"
[05:38] <TweakedEh> I have ubuntu 8.10 and I was wondering how I would get x-server working
[05:39] <Paddy_EIRE> !details | TweakedEh
[05:39] <jcp> Paddy_EIRE: ok, ran that and it says "no webcam found"
[05:39] <Paddy_EIRE> gah
[05:39] <jcp> (when I ran cheese)
[05:39] <Paddy_EIRE> hmm
[05:40] <BableOn> hey folks... I just upgraded from 8.10 to 9.04... half way through system crashed so I had to continue the upgrade from command line.. unfortunently using an ati card that's no longer supported but as im doing it from command i never got prompted about it not being supported any more
[05:40] <losher> user654: I don't see much, actually. What little I do see I found via google 'ubuntu dfx'
[05:40] <whatvn> for ati, envyng is the way to go
[05:40] <BableOn> I've manually fixed everything and using radeonhd driver... but each time i restart my xorg.conf gets overwritten with a near blank template that has no defined drivers or anything
[05:41] <Trentor_> Been reading the wget man pages a bit, still don't understand how I can use wget to get all of a specific file type from a website?  I know its simple, can't seem to get my command to work though...
[05:41] <BableOn> any reason why its getting overwritten?
[05:41] <rob_p> Trentor_, What are you trying to do that isn't working?
[05:42] <user654> losher: let me check
[05:42] <Paddy_EIRE> jcp: there seems to be very few responses (none) to that particular problem http://wiki.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1103545
[05:42] <eNHASA> Hey, I've got a stupid question. New-ish ubuntu/linux user.. I just upgraded to Jaunty and I'm finding that I can no longer use my mousewheel to scroll between workspaces, nor can I mouse-drag a window from one workspace to the other. Any idea where I might fix this?
[05:42]  * jcp thinks he'll add a post to that thread too
[05:43] <TweakedEh> I'm running Ubuntu 8.10 Server Edtion, I'm trying to instal the Xserver and start it but I don't know how. I have installed "xserver" and "xserver-xorg" should it work now?
[05:43] <Paddy_EIRE> jcp: You may also want to try this I am not sure of the success rate https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EasyCam
[05:43] <rohit> Ubuntu server only runs on command line ?
[05:44] <lstarnes> rohit: it can have a gui
[05:44] <Trentor_> Shouldnt this work, as long as I change the filetype?:  wget -r -l1 --no-parent -nH -nd -P/tmp -A".gif,.jpg" http://example.com/images
[05:45] <losher> TweakedEh: Try: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[05:45] <Trentor_> Question:  What files are critical to the operating system located in /tmp?
[05:46] <TweakedEh> losher: It's installing now. Thanks.
[05:46] <rohit> Trentor_, none is my guess because it's only used by the OS to store temp files ... if any file is being used it will be locked by the application
[05:48] <frybye> Hi - I am trying to find the menu point System|Settings|Session <or similar - using the German lang. 9.04 here - there is no one in #ubuntu-de just now) and cannot find anything like "session/Sitzung" under system|settings - dosen't it exist in 9.04???
[05:48] <roxie> How do I install firefox 3.5 beta? I am using Netbook Remix on Dell mini 9
[05:50] <rohit> frybye, I don't see one here ...
[05:50] <nb72> Hi.  I'm on an older HP Pavilion Laptop.  There is a little IR sensor on the front.  I'd like to set it up so I can configure a remote control for input.  I installed lirc, but it doesn't seem to find anything.  Any chance I'll be able to get this to work?
[05:50] <rohit> frybye, what do you want to do ? I mean what settings does Session supposed to have - maybe it has been renamed
[05:50] <losher> Trentor_: http://example.com/images doesn't exist. Try it on a site with some images. and use -P/tmp/foo instead so you don't trample on any /tmp files
[05:51] <atompower> # Appears as ANNA
[05:51] <frybye> I am trying to set up a command that will be executed at start of the pc - I want it to run this command "  nvidia-settings -l --config=~/.nvidia-settings-rc "
[05:52] <rohit> frybye, Oh lots of people know how to do that here ... unfortunately i dont :D
[05:52] <frybye> rohit: thanks - somebody else...????
[05:52] <losher> frybye: to run it once at boot time, put it in /etc/rc.local
[05:53] <lstarnes> frybye: if it's for your personal account, add it to your own crontab with a time of @reboot
[05:53] <rohit> losher, I think he would want that to run everytime he logs in into his own account
[05:53] <BableOn> ubuntu auto configure x
[05:54] <BableOn> sorry.. wrong window
[05:54] <frybye> losher: ok thanks. Istarnes - it should run at every reboot - so puting it in /etc/rc.local is right or...?
[05:54] <rob_p> Trentor_, have you tried changing the order of the arguments and also doing things like using, "--directory-prefix=/tmp" instead of, "-P/tmp", etc?
[05:54] <frybye> Istarnes I dont know what a crontab is???
[05:54] <lstarnes> frybye: if it's for your own account only, use crontab
[05:54] <BitPlacebo> hi all, Linux noob here. Is Ubuntu plug and play? In other words, if I just plug in my tv tuner card is that all there is to it? What commands do I need to know if it is installed correctly?
[05:54] <lstarnes> frybye: see man crontab
[05:55] <lstarnes> frybye: and man 5 crontab
[05:55] <losher> frybye: rohit: oh. I thought it was a one time per boot thing, in which case it can go in /etc/rc.local
[05:55] <frybye> Istarnes - it should run for any account
[05:55] <Trentor_> losher thats because the website is an EXAMPLE, lol
[05:55] <lstarnes> frybye: then you can't have the ~ in there
[05:55] <Flannel> !cron | frybye
[05:55] <losher> Trentor_: well, I ran it, and apart from returning 404, it looked like it would work...
[05:56] <frybye> losher: it IS a one time per boot thing!!
[05:56] <Paddy_EIRE> !details | BitPlacebo
[05:56] <rob_p> Trentor_, wget's syntax can get hairy.  I always have to comb through the man page every time I need to use it for anything more trivial than just, "wget http://example.com/somefile"
[05:56] <lstarnes> frybye: but for all users?
[05:56] <losher> frybye: then put in in /etc/rc.local...
[05:56] <frybye> all users - yeah...
[05:56] <frybye> ok thanks folks...
[05:56] <rob_p> Trentor_, *less trivial*  :-)
[05:56] <rohit> oh sorry my bad :D
[05:56] <lstarnes> frybye: as root, the ~ would expand to /root in that comamnd since rc.local runs as root
[05:56] <rob_p> Trentor_, Anyway, good luck.  Hope you figure it out.
[05:57] <lstarnes> frybye: is there any place where that config file can be stored where all users will be able to use it?
[05:57] <frybye> in what form do I put it there?? I need to make a script out of the command - ie put in a text editor and save with a namd <which one?> *.sh or
[05:57] <Paddy_EIRE> BitPlacebo: "Plug and Play" can be misguiding.. it does not mean that everything will work by magic.. please provide more information, like the TV Tuner card model in question for a start thank you :)
[05:58] <frybye> Istarnes - only one active user on the pc - multiple user qustions dont arise on the whole...
[05:58] <BitPlacebo> k, I'm running ubuntu 9.04 Desktop. I just installed a PCI Norwood Micro s800 tv tuner card. I rebooted. Everything seems to have rebooted fine. Is there a command I can run in terminal that will show me if the card is recognized?
[05:58] <nb72> frybye, if I understand correctly, /etc/rc.local is basically a script that gets run each boot.  putting the command in that file is like putting in a script.
[05:59] <w4ett> BitPlacebo: lspci
[05:59] <Paddy_EIRE> BitPlacebo: could you open a terminal and type "lspci" without quotes and pastebin the output.
[05:59] <losher> frybye: The question is, when *exactly* should the command run, and by whom?
[05:59] <frybye> nb72 ok i have it now - i some how thought that rc.local was a directory.. fine I have it..
[05:59] <Paddy_EIRE> !paste | BitPlacebo
[05:59] <lstarnes> frybye: I'll see if I can find the global location for that config file if there is one
[05:59] <frybye> losher: every time the pc starts - is just to get the resoloution setting right -
[06:00] <BitPlacebo> k, thanks!
[06:01] <frybye> instruction I found said to put in in this   System|Einstellungen|Sitzung section - but I dont find that here - in eng. system/settings/session or similar - dosent seem to exist in 9.04
[06:01] <lstarnes> frybye: replace the --config=~/.nvidia-settings-rc with --config=/home/USER/.nvidia-settings-rc in that command (replace USER with your username)
[06:01] <losher> frybye: then you can safely place the line in /etc/rc.local, creating the file if necessary. You may want to expand the "~" explicitly so there are no surprises at run time.
[06:01] <lstarnes> frybye: otherwise it will set the config for root, not your user
[06:02] <lstarnes> frybye: since that config has to be a per-user thing, it might be better to add it to your personal crontab
[06:03] <Ben^> what is the difference between desktop version and server version
[06:03] <damien> does anyone know anything about the Ubuntu 199 certification? I'm looking for a book or online training.
[06:03] <frybye> let me try putting it in /etc/rc.local and if that works - fine - if it works for root and not user dosent matter or .. needs to work all the time anyhow...
[06:04] <losher> BitPlacebo: Apparentlysomeone got that card to work with ubuntu, but had to do some fiddling to get it going, see http://www.toddh.net/comphelp/
[06:05] <losher> frybye: do you really mean every time the pc starts, or do you actually mean every time the x-server starts?
[06:05] <losher> frybye: do you really mean every time the pc starts, or do you actually mean every time the x-server starts?
[06:05] <SiliconSavant> Anyone know how to list (not search for) the bad sectors on a hard drive? I was trying to look through hdparm and badblocks, but I'm not finding anything.
[06:05] <losher> frybye: do you really mean every time the pc starts, or do you actually mean every time the x-server starts?
[06:06] <Ben^> what is the difference between desktop version and server version
[06:06] <frybye> losher: probably the later...
[06:06]  * losher says oops
[06:06] <SiliconSavant> losher, Being in the military, I'm used to doing things in triplicate. Still... Damn.
[06:06] <losher> frybye: then /etc/rc.local may not be the right place after all. You'll know after testing it...
[06:06] <losher> SiliconSavant: :-)
[06:07] <frybye> rc.local dosent seem to exist??
[06:07] <frybye> losher should I just creat it..??
[06:07] <losher> pardon my enter key. I just had to restart chatzilla...
[06:08] <frybye> losher: if a session runs ok it will only have to start xserver once normally or... then wont make much difference or...?
[06:08] <losher> frybye: yes, you just create /etc/rc.local
[06:09] <lstarnes> frybye: it should already exist as /etc/rc.local
[06:10] <losher> frybye: there may be some timing issues. /etc/rc.local runs before any user logs in. The worst that can happen is that the resolution won't be set properly, so its ok to try thiis
[06:10] <losher> frybye: yes, you just create /etc/rc.local if it doesn't already exist
[06:11] <losher> dang: brb
[06:12] <sleepy_cat> Hi..i had d following partitions on my computer.. C drive (primary) which has win98 then E(extended) drive F(extended) which is for data and then 2 drives one swap 1GB and other 25GB as ext3 drives for Ubuntu.. usually when i used to boot it used to give me ubuntu or windows options then if windows selected win98 or winxp Yesterday i installed win7 now this win7 has wiped out my ubuntu when i start my pc i get 2 options win7 or earlier windows version (
[06:12] <sleepy_cat> win98) but not ubuntu.. can someone help me out as how should i get back ubuntu booting option
[06:12] <matrixblue>  I have a thinkpad t41 and I can't get jaunty or intrepid to recognize that I have a wireless card. lspci lshw nor iwconfig show any mention of a wireless card
[06:12]  * losher is trying xchat instead of chatzilla
[06:12] <rohit> XChat rawks!
[06:13] <SunnyD> rohit: i never liked it
[06:13] <SunnyD> rohit: should i give it another go ?
[06:13] <matrixblue> SunnyD, yeah
[06:13] <sleepy_cat> win7 knocked off my ubuntu booting option is there a way i can get it back
[06:13] <frybye>  well I will give it a go now - c u in a bit..
[06:13] <SunnyD> matrixblue: rohit: i always liked mIRC
[06:13] <matrixblue> !grub | sleepy_cat
[06:14] <rohit> SunnyD, yeah you should .. but then I've never used mIRC :D
[06:14] <losher> colors are better in xchat, but browser integration is, of course, better with chatzilla. (Except for the fact that my enter key stopped working...)
[06:14] <SunnyD> rohit: never !!!! ?
[06:14] <FeasibilityStudy> quassel ftw
[06:15] <rohit> SunnyD, nope :D actually this is my first few days in IRC
[06:15] <SunnyD> rohit: LOL ahh ok, did you ever use Windows ?
[06:15] <xFlux> how can I issue a gratutious arp?
[06:15] <rohit> SunnyD, oh yeah of course ... well it's my first couple of weeks of using Ubuntu as a primary OS
[06:16] <SunnyD> rohit: ahh i get it, and that;s why you are on IRC :D:D:D
[06:16] <nb72> I don't suppose anybody knows if I can get the IR receiver on my HP pavilion zv6270us to work?  I'd like to use a remote to drive Boxee.
[06:17] <losher> xFlux: May I ask why you need to issue a gratuitous arp?
[06:18] <rohit> :D
[06:18] <xFlux> losher:  for failover scripts
[06:18] <tomtommy> Once I installed Wine, my Laptop fan started going full-blast.  But now I reinstalled Ubuntu, the fan stopped.  Why does Wine cause the fan to go full blast?
[06:18] <rohit> nb72, It should be possible - have you tried searching Ubuntu forums ?
[06:18] <xFlux> and to reset the arp mac at the router level
[06:18] <silv3r_m00n> hi there buzz
[06:18] <losher> nb72: I think you can. There is lircd & stuff, but the docs are particularly hideous, even by linux standards...
[06:19] <nb72> rohit, Ya, I've looked.  I've installed Lirc.  I can't seem to get the system to even recognize the IR is there.
[06:19] <silv3r_m00n> me on ubuntu 8.04 and yesterday it was all fine ..... but today I see that the contents of resolv.conf have changed and it contains >> search mshome.net
[06:19] <silv3r_m00n> is this a virus ?
[06:19] <silv3r_m00n> or trojan ?
[06:20] <xFlux> silv3r_m00n: probably your dhcpclient auto configuring resolv.conf
[06:20] <silv3r_m00n> xFlux: but why the search mshome.net line
[06:21] <silv3r_m00n> it was changed to this search mshome.net
[06:21] <silv3r_m00n> nameserver 192.168.0.1
[06:21] <xFlux> not sure?  Something set in your router that broadcasts mshome.net?
[06:21] <tomtommy> Once I installed Wine, my Laptop fan started going full-blast.  But now I reinstalled Ubuntu, the fan stopped.  Why does Wine cause the fan to go full blast?
[06:21] <silv3r_m00n> xFlux: no no nothing
[06:21] <Mkop> I can't get my cdrom tray to open
[06:21] <losher> xFlux: there is apparently a GNU Gratuitous ARP Daemon which may do what you want http://savannah.gnu.org/projects/garpd
[06:21] <Mkop> the button doesn't do anything, and nor do eject /dev/cdrom or eject /media/cdrom
[06:22] <silv3r_m00n> but yes I have been doing synaptic upgrades since last few days
[06:22] <xFlux> cool, ill look into that losher - thanks
[06:22] <Mkop> and /media/cdrom is showing as empty, even though there's a cd in there
[06:22] <nb72> Mkop, if it's jammed you may need to pop it open manually.
[06:23] <Mkop> it's not physically jammed
[06:23] <Mkop> (at least I don't think it is)
[06:23] <nb72> Mkop,  Grab a paper clip, straighten it out, and place it in the small hole on the front of the drive.  Goes in a ways, but will open the drawer.
[06:23] <Mkop> I think it's a software issue
[06:24] <Randabis1> dang, where did Mister go?
[06:24] <nb72> Mkop,  For me if the button on the front doesn't work, the CD is usually a bit off.  If it's a software problem I'm afraid I won't be much help.
[06:25] <mib_9d9bl9> Hi!  Ok, I'm running kubuntu 9.04 and I just changed my video card from an ati x300 running opensource drivers to an nvidia 5600 now, I can't do anything in linux, where the login shoudl be it's just a box that says "Cannot display this video mode"
[06:26] <mib_9d9bl9> Please help, I can't use ubuntu otherwise :/
[06:26] <ctmjr> !nvida
[06:26] <hateball> mib_9d9bl9: Did you uninstall the ATI drivers prior to changing the cards?
[06:26] <Mkop> !nvidia
[06:26] <ctmjr> helps if i could spell
[06:26] <WIGGMPk> mib_9d9bl9: when you get to where the login screen should be... try this: Alt + F1 to get you to TTY1 and run "sudo dpkg --reconfigure xorg-server"
[06:27] <losher> silv3r_m00n: who is your dhcp server?
[06:27] <silv3r_m00n> losher: eth0 is configured...no dhcp
[06:27] <silv3r_m00n> its connected to an adsl router
[06:27] <Mkop> mib_9d9bl9: Ctrl-Alt-F1 will get you a command line login so you can at least do something to fix it
[06:28] <mib_9d9bl9> WIGGMPk: I did that.  And nothing happend.  Eventually, I aws able to get to something...But, it was just a dialog box saying something about "start ubuntu in graphcis mode" and it didn't work.
[06:28] <WIGGMPk> mib_9d9bl9: after that, if it doesnt automatically bring up a login.. you have to do this.. "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop" than after that.. "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start"
[06:28] <mib_9d9bl9> I think I may need nVidia drivers...I don't have them.
[06:28] <WIGGMPk> mib_9d9bl9: ok 1 sec..
[06:28] <losher> silv3r_m00n: please confirm, your eth0 is statically configured and you aren't running dhcpclient?
[06:28] <matrixblue> when ubuntu doesn't recognize a wireless card at all (not listing it in lspci or lshw) what does that mean?
[06:29] <silv3r_m00n> YES
[06:29] <WIGGMPk> mib_9d9bl9: are you comfortable with text editing from the command line?
[06:29] <sparr> matrixblue: if lspci doesn't list it then you're really screwed, that doesn't even require a driver
[06:29] <losher> silv3r_m00n: then I can't imagine who rewrote your /etc/resolv.conf either. What is the date on that file?
[06:29] <WIGGMPk> mib_9d9bl9: I apologize, it should be "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[06:30] <sparr> losher: sorry to interject, completely unrelated to silv3r_m00n's problem...  do you know how I can keep NetworkManager from overwriting my custom /etc/resolv.conf every time I connect to a wireless network?
[06:30] <matrixblue> sparr, thanks................
[06:30] <mib_9d9bl9> WIGGMPk: I can do ok I guess.
[06:30] <mib_9d9bl9> Can we please PM?  This i sSOOO confusing out here.
[06:30] <rob_p> matrixblue, Is it a USB device?
[06:30] <losher> sparr: change the permissions on the file so it can't be written by anyone?
[06:31] <matrixblue> rob_p, no it's built in
[06:31] <WIGGMPk> mib_9d9bl9: ok well.. run this "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and than "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart" (if nothing happens)
[06:31] <rob_p> matrixblue, ok
[06:31] <tomtommy> why does Wine cause the fan to go berserk?
[06:31] <sparr> losher: NM is running as root, so I don't know if that would work, but I will try.  easy answers are the best, thanks :)
[06:31] <jfreekao> Hi, I'm trying to install Cinelerra, but it's being rather difficult. I've tried using wget, but it just downloads something to keyring. If someone could point me to a guide that will tell me step by step, or better yet, tell me themselves how to install Cinelerra, I would greatly appreciate it.
[06:32] <rob_p> matrixblue, It should show up on the pci buss then.  Does it work under Windows?
[06:32] <matrixblue> rob_p, yeah
[06:32] <losher> sparr: Try google next. It's gotta be a fairly common issue...
[06:32] <rob_p> matrixblue, Then it almost *has* to show up with lspci -v
[06:32] <max_> I just got a new computer, it has a dual core amd processor (the sticker on the laptop says X2) so i'm assuming i need the bit version of ubuntu. So i downloaded that and out it on a disk. But when i put the cd in and booted up to it and tried to install ubuntu, it wouldnt ever load. It just got stuck at a black screen with a cursor in the top left. I thought maybe it just had burned a bad cd, so i downloaded another iso and burnned it to anothe
[06:32] <max_>  and it did the same thing. So i put in a normal 386 disk, and it installed, but its running extremely slowly. Does anyone know why it would do this?
[06:33] <losher> silv3r_m00n: still there?
[06:33] <sparr> losher: common issue doesn't mean there's a common fix :(  my NIC has had the nvidia random MAC bug for like 3 years now and no one seems interested in fixing it in the kernel :(
[06:33] <loof> Question: i've mounted an smb share (an external nas box) via the browse network window in gnome in ubuntu 9.04, and i doubleclicked the device, it added a folder on my desktop and i can browse the content on my nas device, that's all working perfectly. HOWEVER, HOW do i access that mounted device (it says mounted when i rightclick on the icon/link on the gnome desktop)
[06:34] <silv3r_m00n> losher: yeah
[06:34] <Randabis> welp, we got Mister connected
[06:34] <tomtommy> !Mail Notification
[06:34] <losher> sparr: some bugs are harder to fix than others....
[06:34] <matrixblue> rob_p, nope tried just now
[06:34] <k4r1m> what is the p2p client for ubuntu running gnome?
[06:34] <losher> silv3r_m00n: I was wondering what the timestamp on your /etc/resolv.conf was?
[06:35] <xFlux> hmmm
[06:35] <losher> !p2p | k4r1m
[06:35] <loof> anyone know?
[06:35] <jfreekao> Hi, I'm trying to install Cinelerra, but it's being rather difficult. I've tried using wget, but it just downloads something to keyring. If someone could point me to a guide that will tell me step by step, or better yet, tell me themselves how to install Cinelerra, I would greatly appreciate it.
[06:35] <silv3r_m00n> losher: I changed it again
[06:35] <silv3r_m00n> how can I get the timestamp
[06:35] <matrixblue> rob_p, it's a thinkpad t41
[06:35] <loof> basically the device is mounted, but there's no corresponding entry in /mnt ???
[06:35] <rob_p> matrixblue, First time I've ever seen that then.  Congrats! :-)
[06:36] <matrixblue> rob_p, same here lol
[06:36] <xFlux> losher: if any idiot comes in looking for a gratuitous ip packet, tell them to use arping -c 1 -U <IP> ....it looks like arping can send the MAC address takeover with -U
[06:36] <xFlux> but thanks for the help to that page, it helped a bit
[06:36] <tomtommy> how do I install Mail Notification 5.4 on Ubuntu?
[06:36] <sparr> losher: This one could be "fixed" with just two lines of code...  not a fix the kernel devs would be happy with though
[06:36] <losher> silv3r_m00n: bummer. If we knew the change date we could have looked in the logs to see what was happening around that time. ls -l /etc/resolv.conf
[06:36] <sparr> losher: and it's not QUITE worth the trouble of maintaining my own kernel builds to fix it myself
[06:36] <silv3r_m00n> hold on
[06:37] <losher> xFlux: good to know. Doesn't come up often though...
[06:37] <Adola> WIGGMPk:
[06:37] <losher> sparr: :-)
[06:37] <sparr> I am just stuck using wireless
[06:37] <WIGGMPk> Adola: ?
[06:37] <k4r1m> how about frostwire? i can't seem to get it work keep getting launch errors...
[06:37] <sparr> with my computer 3 feet from the router, that seems like a waste
[06:38] <rob_p> matrixblue, You don't suppose they did something stupid like hang it on the USB bus via an internal header or something?  lsusb -v  (I don't hold much hope for that.)
[06:38] <silv3r_m00n> losher: :( its showing the time when I edited it 30 mins back
[06:38] <rob_p> matrixblue, I've seen crazier things...
[06:38] <silv3r_m00n> losher: can we try to search the log with resolv.conf text
[06:38] <silv3r_m00n> ?
[06:38] <losher> silv3r_m00n: yep, no way to know when the change before that was....
[06:39] <tomtommy> how do I install Mail Notification 5.4 on Ubuntu?
[06:39] <brummbaer> random question: nmapped myself, came up w/ a reasonably sane list of open ports, but there's a super strange one that's tripping me out port 31337 reg to "Elite" (you can see why i'm suspicious...) anyways, everything online says it has to do w/ some kind of backdoor trojan access and some exploitation app developed by the cult of the dead cow called, appropriately enough "Back Orifice"... only thing else i can gather is it may be
[06:39] <brummbaer> related to psyBNC? anyways, any help here'd be great, it'd go a long way toward solving to know does this come as part of Ubuntu or has something else opened the port?
[06:39] <Mkop> jfreekao: http://cinelerra.org/getting_cinelerra.php#apt
[06:40] <jthomas> halo
[06:40] <jthomas> i'm trying to connect to my ubuntu work machine from home (win xp)
[06:40] <rob_p> brummbaer, what process has it open?
[06:41] <frankS2> jthomas: or really
[06:41] <brummbaer> rob, just says "Elite"
[06:41] <losher> silv3r_m00n: you can type dmesg and look thru that output, but it might not be obvious what's going on. You could pastebin the output so we can all look at it if you want. Btw: I did a quick google, if there's an epidemic of something changing resolv.conf, no-one's talking about it
[06:41] <jthomas> i just realized that i left an option on that requires somebody on office end to verify a remote desktop request
[06:41] <mattg> \
[06:41] <mattg> \
[06:41] <mattg> \
[06:41] <mattg> \
[06:41] <FloodBot2> mattg: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:41] <frankS2> jthomas: lolz pwnd
[06:41] <frankS2> jthomas: use SSH
[06:41] <jthomas> is there any way i can change it via shell?
[06:41] <matrixblue> rob_p, in case I'm missing something http://paste.ubuntu.com/191378/
[06:41] <silv3r_m00n> losher:I checked too
[06:41] <jthomas> frankS2: yeah, i can get in via ssh
[06:41] <loof> jthomas if you're using a router or firewall you need to port forward the ports for remote desktop
[06:41] <loof> woops i spoke too soon
[06:41] <jthomas> loof: no, i'm in via vpn
[06:42] <geirha> jthomas: Which Ubuntu release?
[06:42] <loof> yeah there's an option that makes it so you need to accept the connection on the far end
[06:42] <jthomas> 9.04
[06:42] <frankS2> jthomas: then why do you need remote desktop
[06:42] <frankS2> when you can SSH
[06:42] <rob_p> brummbaer, do, "sudo netstat -tlpn | grep 31337" and it should list the process id and program name
[06:42] <Randabis> hmm...
[06:42] <jthomas> frankS2: gotta use intellij
[06:42] <jthomas> frankS2: vi's subpar
[06:42] <frankS2> jthomas: i see
[06:42] <frankS2> jthomas: ssh -X ;)
[06:43] <jthomas> frankS2: haha, already tried that
[06:43] <jthomas> proxy server doesn't have X
[06:43] <jthomas> installed
[06:43] <rob_p> matrixblue, Yeah, I don't see it either.
[06:44] <geirha> jthomas: Proxy server? The client you ssh in from, does that have an X11 server?
[06:44] <Mkop> the proxy server needs to have X? what does it care? it's SSH - how does it even know what's in the packets it's transmitting?
[06:44] <matrixblue> rob_p, lsusb -v http://paste.ubuntu.com/191380/
[06:44] <jthomas> yep, so it's client --> proxy server (subnet mask) --> my machine
[06:44] <jthomas> my machine and client have X
[06:44] <jthomas> proxy doesn't
[06:45] <PsyCl0ne> Cabrey: you still here bro?
[06:45] <Mkop> you ssh to the proxy server?
[06:45] <loof> jthomas:: i think i found it: To disable SECURITY option (Ask you for confirmation), use this command:
[06:45] <loof> gconftool-2 -s -t bool /desktop/gnome/remote_access/prompt_enabled false
[06:45] <jthomas> Mkop: exactly
[06:45] <brummbaer> haha, oh man. good call rob_p... i had just been running "sudo nmap -sS -O <target>"... anyways, it comes back as portsentry, which is cool with me, just installed it the other night, which also explains why that port was unrecognized..
[06:45] <rob_p> matrixblue, Yeah, not there either.  Bummer dude!
[06:45] <jthomas> loof: awesome, i'll try it right now
[06:45] <Mkop> jthomas: don't. set up an ssh tunnel
[06:45] <Mkop> I think that should fix it
[06:45] <jthomas> Mkop: how?
[06:45] <Mkop> not sure though
[06:45] <Mkop> google
[06:45] <Mkop> :-P]
[06:45] <FloodBot2> Mkop: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:45] <jthomas> Mkop: alright, i'll look around
[06:45] <PsyCl0ne> lol
[06:45] <loof> http://www.samlesher.com/ubuntu/ubuntu-704-enabledisable-remote-desktop-from-the-command-line that was the site i found that on
[06:45] <matrixblue> rob_p, yeah I'm not giving up though
[06:45] <rob_p> brummbaer, Cool deal.  I can hear the sighs or relief!
[06:46] <geirha> jthomas: It's possible to change the vino config with gconftool-2
[06:46] <jthomas> loof: thanks
[06:46] <loof> so yeah if ANYONE knows how to access a mounted smb share via the commandline, PLEASE HELPP =[
[06:46] <brummbaer> rob_p, no kidding. *kicks self*
[06:46] <jthomas> geirha: hold on, let me try loof's
[06:46] <loof> jthomas: did that fix it?
[06:46] <jjbin> hi all could I look for the files of windows directory in terminal
[06:47] <geirha> jthomas: But new from 8.10, you need to set the env variable DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS
[06:47] <max_> oobe: Would installing a 32 bit version on a computer made for 64 make performance exceptionally slow? (like im experiancing now)
[06:47] <jthomas> geirha: how would i do that?
[06:47] <jthomas> loof: not sure, gotta go to my windows comp
[06:47] <jthomas> one sec
[06:48] <Mkop> jthomas: to set up the tunnel: ssh -L 22222:remotemachine:22 -p 22 -NftXC you@proxy. To connect using it: ssh -XC -p 22222 you@localhost
[06:48] <max_> I just got a new computer, it has a dual core amd processor (the sticker on the laptop says X2) so i'm assuming i need the bit version of kubuntu. So i downloaded that and out it on a disk. But when i put the cd in and booted up to it and tried to install kubuntu, it wouldnt ever load. It just got stuck at a black screen with a cursor in the top left. I thought maybe it just had burned a bad cd, so i downloaded another iso and burnned it to anot
[06:48] <max_>  and it did the same thing. So i put in a normal 386 disk, and it installed, but its running extremely slowly. Does anyone know why it would do this?
[06:49] <geirha> jthomas: Haven't found any easy way of doing it. I usually just look at nautilus' env. cat /proc/`pidof -s nautilus`/environ | tr '\0' '\n' | grep ^DBUS_SESSION
[06:49] <losher> loof: something like: mount -t cifs -o nosuid,rw,uid=XXX,gid=YYY,username=ZZZ,password=AAA //server/share /mnt. You have to fill in the XXX,YYY,ZZZ,AAA,server & share
[06:49] <jthomas> Mkop: aha, thanks
[06:49] <jthomas> geirha: ok, i'll set that too
[06:50] <Mkop> jthomas: 22222 is the port you're opening on your machine which points, via the proxy, to remotemachine:22
[06:50] <loof> losher: thanks!
[06:50] <losher> max_: what version did you install in the end, then?
[06:50] <loof> but where do i find the uid and gid??
[06:50] <max_> losher: the 32bit version of Kubuntu 9.04
[06:51] <max_> losher: but it is VERY VERY slow
[06:51] <losher> loof: you choose them yourself from /etc/passwd. Choose the main user you login as
[06:51] <jthomas> Mkop: what's the format for remotemachine?
[06:51] <dmsuperman> Anybody know how to figure out the quality and/or average bit rate of a VBR MP3?
[06:51] <loof> max: download ubuntu 9.04!
[06:51] <dmsuperman> mplayer gives me 128kbit which is entirely wrong, it even says 128 on 320kbps CBR mp3s
[06:51] <dmsuperman> mpg123 -t just says "VBR"
[06:52] <dmsuperman> mp3info -x is the same
[06:52] <loof> you can just get the straight x86/32 bit version unless you have more than 3gb ram, then get the 64 bit version
[06:52] <losher> max_: 9.04 has known performance problems, particularly with intel chips I think. I suggest you download 8.04.2/32 bit instead & retry...
[06:52] <Mkop> jthomas: that's just the IP address or internet name of the machine you're connecting to
u could try ubuntu 9.10,are u sure there is no problem with u hardware
[06:52] <loof> losher: but do i NEED to input the uid and gid? can i just not use them at all?
[06:52] <Mkop> that line might be, for example, 22222:123.123.45.45:22
[06:52] <jthomas> Mkop: subnet IP?
[06:53] <max_> losher: its an AMD chip. Will the 32bit version see both cores and 3gb of ram on the comp?
[06:53] <Mkop> jthomas: you mean, b/c the machine isn't accessible over the internet, just over intranet?
[06:53] <jthomas> Mkop: exactly
[06:53] <jthomas> proxy first
[06:53] <Mkop> jthomas: probably, it's whatever the proxy server knows that machine as
[06:54] <Mkop> whatever you would put when sshing from proxy to remotemachine
[06:54] <losher> max_: yes, it should work fine with your dual core amd
[06:54] <TomTommy> how can I view PDF files through Firefox please?
[06:54] <myself> can anyone give me any recommendations for something that will integrate a news RSS feed into my desktop background? In Kubuntu.
[06:54] <unique> how can i check what kind of cpu socket does my mobo use from ubuntu?
[06:55] <TomTommy> !pdf
[06:55] <bc> myself: conky with a call to an external script can do that. google conky rss
[06:55] <losher> loof: dunno, according to the web page, it depends on the server. So try it & let us know... :-)
[06:55] <TomTommy> !pdf in firefox?
[06:55] <myself> conky rss? no im looking for a widget cause KDE runs w/t hose
[06:55] <max_> losher: Will 9.10 have these performance problems worked out? I'd been running an old box for nearly 10 years and was hoping that this new machine would finally let me use the lastest stuff (it seems im just doomed with computers)
[06:55] <TomTommy> !firefox pdf?
[06:55] <jthomas> Mkop: gotcha
[06:55] <myself> i dont need to install conky if i have KDE and its full of stuff like that which will integrate into the background, i m just looking for something maybe someone has expereince with, a specific widget
[06:55] <Mkop> jthomas: http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/21/how-to-ssh-tunnels-for-secure-network-access/
[06:55] <bc> myself: you said 'into my desktop background' and I assumed you meant the kind of thing conky does.
[06:56] <zeroprog> is there an encryption lib shipped with ubuntu?
[06:56] <jthomas> Mkop: thanks, let me look
[06:56] <myself> conky does it, but widgets in KDE are better
[06:56] <kbrosnan> TomTommy: install adobe reader for firefox and possibly the associated plugin
[06:56] <Mkop> jthomas: that's the URL someone pointed me to looong ago when I had a similar thing. The example I gave you were modified from my .bashrc aliases
[06:56] <TomTommy> kbrosnan: ok, sudo apt-get install acroread ?
[06:56] <losher> max_: there's no telling. Latest isn't always greatest. 8.04.2 is a good choice for a newbie because it has long term support & its very stable
[06:56] <dmsuperman> Anybody know how to figure out the quality and/or average bit rate of a VBR MP3?
[06:56] <dmsuperman> mplayer gives me 128kbit which is entirely wrong, it even says 128 on 320kbps CBR mp3s
[06:56] <dmsuperman> mpg123 -t just says "VBR"
[06:56] <dmsuperman> mp3info -x is the same
[06:57] <kbrosnan> TomTommy: yeah
[06:57] <FloodBot2> dmsuperman: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:57] <Mkop> TomTommy: I'd probably install the acrobat reader plugin from within firefox
[06:57] <TomTommy> Mkop: how?
[06:57] <Hilikus> hey guys, how can i get my system hardware info
[06:57] <Hilikus> ?
[06:57] <racecar56> Mkop, evince does good enough...
[06:57] <max_> losher: im hardly a newbie as far as kubuntu goes, ive been using it since lat 05 or early 06. Ive just never had a decent machine to put it to use on.
[06:57] <Mkop> TomTommy: from the add-ons window
[06:57] <TomTommy> Mkop: I dont want adobe, but want to view PDF files in firefox.. any solution?
[06:57] <geirha> unique: It might be listed by lshw. "sudo lshw -html >/tmp/hardware.html && firefox file:///tmp/hardware.html"
[06:57] <TomTommy> Mkop: add-ons window?
[06:57] <Hilikus> in a CLI, i don't use a graphical inteface
[06:58] <Mkop> TomTommy: tools -> Add-ons
[06:58] <racecar56> replace firefox with lynx
[06:58] <losher> max_: my mistake. Feel free to ignore my advice on what to run in that case...
[06:58] <TomTommy> Mkop: what I do there?
[06:58] <Mkop> TomTommy: I don't know if anyone else makes a pdf plugin for firefox
[06:58] <racecar56> i need help with my remaster of ubuntu, to add a user called 'live' with the password 'password' on startup
[06:58] <kbrosnan> TomTommy: you need a program that provides a plugin that handles pdfs, to the best of my knowledege adobe reader is the only such plugin
[06:58] <TomTommy> Mkop: :(
[06:58] <max_> losher: It seems that is what im going to have to do anyway, Since 9.04 is running so horrible slow.
[06:58] <Mkop> TomTommy: go to the get addons tab, search for pdf, see what you find
[06:59] <TomTommy> kbrosnan: i hear ya. ok. i will install acroread then
[06:59] <max_> losher: Thanks for the help anyway.
[06:59] <TomTommy> kbrosnan: thanks
[06:59] <geirha> Hilikus: sudo lshw | less
[06:59] <losher> max_: good luck...
[06:59] <TomTommy> Mkop: its ok, i must install acroread.
[06:59] <Mkop> TomTommy: I took a similar approach of not wanting adobe, and installed gnash for viewing swf files, but realized pretty quickly that adobe is better
[06:59] <TomTommy> Mkop: ok
[06:59] <emacs> ma ubuntu system gets always hanging can anybody help me in solving this problem
[06:59] <TomTommy> thanks
[07:00] <Mkop> TomTommy: or you can settle for viewing pdf files outside of your browser
[07:00] <jtaji> emacs: completely frozen system?
[07:00] <racecar56> i made a remaster of ubuntu but i cant log in the live cd, how do i make it make a correct user
[07:00] <TomTommy> Mkop: citibank only allow to view my monthly statement through website, as PDF format.. wont let me download.
[07:01] <emacs> jtaji:ya may be about 20 min or half an hour after it resumes automatically
[07:01] <loof> hey jthomas, did that fix work to get your remote desktop session working??
[07:01] <Mkop> TomTommy: if so, you may need acroread
[07:01] <TomTommy> Mkop: how would I view pdf file outside of firefox anyway?
[07:02] <Mkop> TomTommy: go to any site with a pdf and you'll see
[07:02] <TomTommy> Mkop: what program can be used besides acrobat?
[07:02] <emacs> jtaji:hello plz help me
[07:02] <FeasibilityStudy> TomTommy, just use a PDF reader.  I recommend using something like epdf or Okular or something open-source.. Adobe has horrible security issues.
[07:02] <TomTommy> Mkop: what do you mean?
[07:02] <Mkop> you need to have more of an adventurous spirit if you're using linux
[07:02] <jthomas> loof: all i needed was the default gnome directory
[07:02] <jthomas> loof: /desktop isn't a folder
[07:02] <loof> ah
[07:03] <loof> but it worked?
[07:03] <TomTommy> FeasibilityStudy: whats the smallest to install?  I only have low monthly quota,. hence why I tried to avoid having to download 60MB of Adobe
[07:03] <jthomas> loof: nope, that's why it didn't work
[07:03] <FeasibilityStudy> TomTommy open Synaptic and search for PDF readers
[07:03] <emacs> anybody plz help me.........:(
[07:03] <loof> so you still can't remote desktop in?
[07:03] <TomTommy> FeasibilityStudy: ok ty
[07:04] <racecar56> i need help with my remaster of ubuntu, to add a user called 'live' with the password 'password' on startup
[07:04] <FeasibilityStudy> TomyTommy I use Kubuntu and it comes with Okular, which is pretty good.  However, you are probably on Gnome, so you might not want the KDE libs, etc..
[07:04] <TomTommy> Mkop: this is what citibank website tells me:  "I'm sorry. I cann't find Acrobat Reader installed. Please download and install plug-in before viewing statement. "
[07:05] <linuxxd> my trackpad is not working on xfce
[07:05] <linuxxd> in ubuntu
[07:05] <linuxxd> i have jaunty
[07:05] <loof> brb
[07:05] <Mkop> TomTommy: if so, you'll need acrobat. follow the instructions they provide for installing it
[07:05] <jthomas> loof: nope, not yet
[07:06] <TomTommy> Mkop: I just typed "sudo apt-get install acroread"
[07:06] <FeasibilityStudy> TomTommy will it let you download the PDF file?  Or does it force you to use your browser for viewing?
[07:06] <TomTommy> FeasibilityStudy: no, doesnt allow download of PDF
[07:06] <anoop__> plz help me ma ubuntu system gets hanging for a while
[07:06] <TomTommy> FeasibilityStudy: it only allows download in MS Money format file
[07:07] <max_> hey everybody
[07:07] <anoop__> anybody plz help meeeeeee
[07:07] <mumtazah> hello. anyone know where can i  get wap emulator/sdk for ubuntu
[07:07] <dyllan> Is it possible (if your MX records point to a spam/virus filter server first), to be SPAMMED directly to you email server, what i mean is that i am receiving a lot of SPAM but my spam/virus filter server doesnt show these message as spam or clean, so i assume im receiving the SPAM with hosts connecting directly to my static ip of server?
[07:07] <TomTommy> FeasibilityStudy: It only allows to download statement in these formats: OFX, QIF and CSV
[07:07] <FeasibilityStudy> TomTommy yeah then unfortunately you are going to have to install adobe reader.
[07:07] <racecar56> how do i make my ubuntu remaster add a user on startup
[07:08] <TomTommy> FeasibilityStudy: any readers in ubuntu that can read OFX, QIF and CSV?
[07:08] <anoop__> hello anybody plz help me
[07:08] <loof> losher: THANKS TONS
[07:08] <Mkop> anoop__: instead of begging for help, trying providing information about what's going wrong. Asking more specific questions is more likely to get you help
[07:08] <jthomas> does anyone know what the default gnome directory is?
[07:08] <loof> your help got it mounted properly, woot
[07:08] <TomTommy> !question > anoop__
[07:08] <FeasibilityStudy> TomTommy yes
[07:08] <loof> now i've got my 2tb nas working *properly*
[07:08] <TomTommy> FeasibilityStudy: what one? how I install it?
[07:08] <loof> jthomas are you running 9.04?
[07:09] <FeasibilityStudy> TomTommy sudo apt-get install gnucash
[07:09] <max_> Could anybody help me with some troubles with Gambas 2? im running 9.04
[07:09] <jthomas> loof: yep, i'm finding .gnome2 in home
[07:09] <TomTommy> FeasibilityStudy: what format does gnucash read? OFX, QIF or CSV?
[07:09] <FeasibilityStudy> I believe QIF
[07:09] <TomTommy> FeasibilityStudy: you not sure it reads OFX, QIF and CSV?
[07:10] <jthomas> loof: ok, found it
[07:10] <jthomas> loof: it was ~/.gconf/desktop/gnome/
[07:10] <max_> can anyone help me with Gambas not running my programs?
[07:10] <TomTommy> FeasibilityStudy: I need to know for certain.. its 30MB of multiple files to be installed
[07:10] <racecar56> max_, more info
[07:11] <TomTommy> does anyone know if ubuntu can read these formats?  OFX, QIF or CSV?
[07:11] <_Roke_> Does anyone know how to install Office 2007 on ubuntu 9.04 using wine?
[07:11] <FeasibilityStudy> TomTommy it does both QIF and OFX
[07:11] <anoop__> ok ma problem is ma ubuntu used to hang up  whenever i am busy wid some work like rading pdf iles hearing music and all....wat may be d reason for this hanging
[07:11] <racecar56> _Roke_, why not use openoffice
[07:11] <FeasibilityStudy> dont know about CSV
[07:12] <TomTommy> FeasibilityStudy: any other programs that can read OFX, QIF or CSV?  Because gnucash wants to install 50 files, about 30MB worth
[07:12] <ghindo> _Roke_: Don't hold out too much hope:  http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=4992
[07:12] <Mkop> TomTommy: csv is readable by any spreadsheet program
[07:13] <TomTommy> Mkop: cool
[07:13] <indus> anoop__: whats your system and which version of ubuntu are you using
[07:13] <racecar56> how do i make my ubuntu remaster add a user on startup
[07:13] <mneptok> anoop__: and English, please?
[07:14] <anoop__> Mkop :ok ma problem is ma ubuntu used to hang up  whenever i am busy wid some work like rading pdf iles hearing music and all....wat may be d reason for this hanging after some time it resumes back
[07:14] <_Roke_> Thanks ghindo I'll check it out
[07:14] <indus> anoop__: use proper english
[07:14] <FeasibilityStudy> TomTommy try sudo apt-get install grisbi
[07:14] <anoop__> indus :iam using ubuntu 9.04...sorry
[07:15] <indus> anoop__: have you updated your system ?
[07:15] <TomTommy> FeasibilityStudy: its ok,  I download CSV and OO spreadsheet reads it
[07:15] <indus> anoop__: are you using rhythmbox?
[07:15] <FeasibilityStudy> TomTommy good deal
[07:15] <anoop__> indus:yes i updated my system
[07:15] <TomTommy> FeasibilityStudy: thanks :-)
[07:16] <loof> jthomas: yeah i'm not managing to find the equivalent of desktop/gnome/remote_access either =S
[07:16] <anoop__> indus:yes  its not only with rythmbox...with most of all apps
[07:16] <jthomas> loof: no, i got it
[07:16] <jthomas> loof: ~/.gconf/desktop/gnome
[07:16] <loof> oh?
[07:17] <jthomas> loof: except win still isn't working
[07:17] <loof> and remote desktop's working?
[07:17] <jthomas> loof:  do you know if windows' default remote desktop client can connect to linux machines?
[07:17] <Mkop> jthomas: I know the reverse works.
[07:18] <Mkop> rdesktop connects to windows machines
[07:18] <jthomas> Mkop: i just tried running ssh -XC -p 22222 localhost
[07:18] <jthomas> it asked me for a password
[07:18] <indus> anoop__: how much ram do you have?
[07:18] <fiber> hello... i was wondering if anyone knew of a good music player that shows the lyrics on the main screen (i know amarok does this but i don't want to have to install all the KDE stuff just for one app)
[07:18] <jthomas> Mkop: yeah, i know
[07:18] <loof> hm lemme check from my windows box
[07:18] <anoop__> indus:1.4 GB
[07:18] <jthomas> Mkop: the password was neither localhost's or my remote machine's
[07:18] <jthomas> loof: thanks
[07:19] <Mkop> jthomas: when you first run ssh -L, you give it the proxy's password
[07:19] <indus> anoop__: difficult to diagnose , could you give any more details of the freeze
[07:19] <Mkop> then when you ssh to localhost, you give it remotemachine's password
[07:20] <Mkop> if that doesn't work, then something else is wrong
[07:20] <stardust> hello, is there a reason i cannot load the proprietary ati drivers for my laptop?  It worked fine for my desktop
[07:21] <anoop__> indus:ok when ma system gets hangs up keyboard and mouse wont work and also after remaining to that state for 5 to 10 min it resumes automatically
[07:21] <indus> anoop__: are u using any custom theme ? could be a reason
[07:22] <anoop__> indus: no am using the default theme
[07:23] <indus> anoop__: ok which applications are you generally running when the freeze happens
[07:23] <anoop__> indus:even i switched off all desktop effects then also same problem
[07:23] <stardust> the one in the laptop is an x1250
[07:23] <stardust> if that helps
[07:24] <anoop__> indus:its not specific to particular app almost any sort of application i use after sometime it get hangs up
[07:25] <indus> anoop__: ok not sure what the problem is,, could be anything
[07:25] <indus> anoop__: system heating possible u know
[07:26] <indus> anoop__: use pastebin and paste output of dmesg
[07:26] <indus> !pastebin
[07:26] <anoop__> indus actually ma processor is intel dual core is der any problem with this processor
[07:26] <indus> !paste > anoop__
[07:27] <GSKsiusha2> hi all, i have few questions about dual booting ubuntu with vista
[07:27] <loof> jthomas: sorry for the wait
[07:28] <loof> i totally spaced and just now realized you need to use VNC from windows
[07:28] <indus> anoop__: dual core is fine
[07:28] <Mkop> why?
[07:28] <Mkop> why VNC, I mean
[07:28] <jthomas> loof: exactly
[07:28] <gerald> ult, videos and website animations etc are really sluggish
[07:29] <gerald> s
[07:29] <gerald> I have the ati xpress 200m video card, and there doesn't seem to be a compatible driver for jaunty version.
[07:29] <racecar56> how do i make my ubuntu remaster add a user on startup
[07:29] <loof> so you can get say tightvnc from tightvnc.com
[07:29] <loof> that worked for remoting in to the ubuntu machine for me
[07:29] <gerald> ult, videos and website animations etc are really sluggishggish
[07:29] <Mkop> jthomas: did you get X forwarding working?
[07:29] <gerald> whenever I play videos on youtube or scroll through a website with a lot of graphics, it gets really sluggish
[07:29] <indus> anoop__: output of dmesg in terminal
[07:29] <gerald> anyone know what I can do to speed up the video processing/
[07:30] <bazhang> gerald, with or without compiz
[07:30] <gerald> without compiz
[07:30] <jthomas> Mkop: nope, i'm getting this:channel 2: open failed: administratively prohibited: open failed
[07:30] <jthomas> ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host
[07:30] <bazhang> gerald, how old is that card
[07:30] <gerald> bazhang: maybe around 4 years old
[07:30] <racecar56> o.o
[07:30] <loof> jthomas: just noticed this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=335548
[07:31] <jthomas> Mkop: there's either some ssh_config setting on the proxy that prevents tunneling (read-only), or the command didn't work
[07:31] <jthomas> loof: thanks
[07:31] <bazhang> gerald, generally the FF plugin flashblock will aid a bit for graphics heavy sites
[07:31] <Mkop> jthomas: when do you get that? when you do the ssh -L?
[07:31] <anoop__> indus plz check pastebin
[07:31] <indus> anoop__: you have to paste that link here
[07:31] <jthomas> Mkop: nope, when i do the ssh -XC localhost
[07:32] <loof> apparently ubuntu can't serve rdp so you need to use a vnc viewer or an x server app for windows
[07:32] <gerald> bazhang: well not just websites, but even when I'm playing mpeg/avi videos
[07:32] <indus> url
[07:32] <anoop__> http://paste.ubuntu.com/191430/
[07:32] <anoop__> indus:http://paste.ubuntu.com/191430/
[07:32] <indus> kk
[07:32] <gerald> or just scrolling down facebook or something
[07:32] <bazhang> gerald, which players do you generally use, and which driver for that card
[07:33] <gerald> i'm just using movie player right now
[07:33] <gerald> drive,r i believe i am using the vesa driver
[07:33] <jthomas> loof: ah, i think i've got to install a rdp program on the server (office) side
[07:33] <bazhang> gerald, is there a propietary driver for that card?
[07:33] <GSKsiusha2> does ubuntu 9.04 recognizes and tells me if i want to dual boot windows vista home edition ( 32 bits ) with no issues after instalation or i have to do something special ?
[07:33] <Mkop> jthomas: yeah, when you do the ssh -XC is when the proxy actually tries to connect to the remote machine. it could be, as the error message says, this is administratively prohibited.
[07:34] <Mkop> imagine that, an error message being accurate
[07:34] <bazhang> GSKsiusha2, which is installed first
[07:34] <gerald> bazhang: from what people say on the forums, ati dropped driver support for that card
[07:34] <jthomas> Mkop: i know, incredible
[07:34] <jthomas> Mkop: yeah, i'll check with my sysadmin tomorrow
[07:34] <GSKsiusha2> vista  is
[07:34] <indus> anoop__: have you tried any other version of ubuntu?
[07:34] <racecar56> how do i make my ubuntu remaster add a user on startup
[07:34] <bazhang> gerald,  not sure then, dont have an ati here; perhaps if you re-ask here every so often
[07:35] <gerald> what video card do you have anyways?
[07:35] <bazhang> GSKsiusha2, should be no problems; have you installed Ubuntu yet?
[07:35] <bazhang> nvidia 7300
[07:35] <Mkop> what's with that "floodbot sets exempt, floodbot removes exempt"?
[07:35] <bazhang> Mkop, mibbit users
[07:35] <gerald> are nvidia cards generally well supported under linux?  I'm planning on purchasing a new laptop soon
[07:36] <GSKsiusha2> no i havent, i tried too but ubuntu did not offered me to free space on my HD but to reformat it all to install itself, and sorry dont know how to pm lol new here too
[07:36] <Mkop> bazhang: what about them?
[07:36] <bazhang> Mkop, that is what the exempt are for
[07:36] <travis_> hello
[07:37] <loof> if you want to connect from windows to ubuntu, just run tightvnc on the windows box and you can connect
[07:37] <Mkop> why did it remove the exempt so quickly?
[07:37] <bazhang> he/she quit
[07:37] <loof> as long as you've turned on remote desktop in ubuntu and disabled the option that makes it so that you need to be there locally to click yes to start the session
[07:38] <adhil> hi there, am using 9.04 can anyone recommend any tools which i can use to recover the files i accidently deleted
[07:38] <indus> adhil: did you check in trash?
[07:38] <Mkop> lol
[07:39] <racecar56> lolz
[07:39] <racecar56> how do i make my ubuntu remaster add a user on startup (final time i ask)
[07:39] <adhil> indus, actually i deleted by pressing shift key
[07:39] <indus> adhil: there is a way but its complicated
[07:39] <perbl> so, back to my screen problems, anybody else here using xinerama across two different video cards in 9.04?
[07:40] <unix> porn?
[07:40] <adhil> indus, i love to experiment.. can u explain me how to do that?
[07:40] <unix> oh? xD
[07:40] <perbl> whenever I activate xinerama across two screens that are connected to different video cards, xorg enters an everlasting loop of trying to start with mostly black screens going on and off
[07:40] <bazhang> !ot > unix
[07:40] <Mkop> racecar56: thanks for making that be the final time you ask. Asking multiple times doesn't generally get you anywhere
[07:40] <Mohammad[B]> my mplayer haven't sound ... but playing the files ... in other players i haven't this problem. please help me
[07:40] <emacs> indus:hello u der??
[07:41] <indus> emacs: yes why?
[07:41] <unix> perbl what cards?
[07:41] <perbl> any tips regarding mye video setup would be greatly appreciated, I am starting to lean towards ordering myself two larger screens and dropping the triple head and the extra video card :)
[07:41] <perbl> unix: a geforce 7600GS and a FX5200
[07:42] <indus> adhil: i cant explain but i can give you a link
[07:42] <perbl> unix: that worked like a charm in 8.04, but started misbehaving when I upgraded to 8.10 and later to 9.04
[07:42] <emacs> indus:sorry previously i talked to u my name was anoop_have u checked that link
[07:42] <unix> why not use just one? therein lies your problem
[07:42] <adhil> indus, it will do.. give me that link
[07:42] <perbl> unix: because I want to use a triple head setup :)
[07:42] <unix> for what? if you dont mind me asking?
[07:43] <indus> emacs: dmesg looks ok , maybe tried with another ubuntu version?
[07:43] <perbl> for what would you use larger screen estate? if you dont mind me asking ;)
[07:43] <perbl> coding, testing, debugging, very handy to have it all available without having to switch desktops all the time
[07:43] <unix> on linux nothing, what game compatibility are you expecting?
[07:43] <racecar56> Mkop, im gonna come back later (much later)
[07:44] <emacs> indus :but i have tried with ubuntu 8.04,8.10,9.04 no way at all
[07:44] <perbl> unix: so you are running along with your one screen, happy with your 640x480?
[07:44] <indus> emacs: all versions give you problems?
[07:44] <emacs> indus:ya same problem
[07:44] <indus> emacs: i think you should file a bug report but its probably some faulty hardware
[07:45] <jthomas> alright, i'll try something else
[07:45] <unix> i use three monitors, one being an hdmon, one hdtv, and one reg reg monitore
[07:45] <unix> on one card
[07:45] <indus> emacs: some usb headers used to freeze my system so i disconnected them from mobo
[07:45] <indus> adhil: wait iam checking link
[07:45] <jthomas> do you any of you know an easy way to set up vnc from linux?
[07:45] <jthomas> i have a linux machine as well
[07:45] <perbl> yeah, but three outputs are not available on this card, so I have to use two
[07:45] <adhil> indus, ok
[07:46] <emacs> indus:have you heard about Boss linux
[07:46] <indus> emacs: ya it sucks
[07:46] <unix> get a btter card, dont use two unless you plan on maunally configuraing "twinview with three cards"
[07:47] <unix> or using winblows
[07:47] <Guest71146> heh
[07:47] <emacs> indus:when i installed it  der was no problem at all...going very smoothly.....this problem starts from fedora 8
[07:47] <CoderX> hi, i am using version 8.10 desktop. i cannot mount nfs in boot time. any one can you help?
[07:48] <Mkop> jthomas: methods listed on google don't work?
[07:48] <emacs> indus:actually i used fedora 8,10 then suse 11 then switched to ubuntu every where i got same result
[07:49] <loof> hey jthomas: isn't it working by now? all you need to do if you're running ubuntu 9.04 is go to System->preferences->remote desktop then check off allow other users to view your desktop, allow other users to control this desktop, uncheck you must confirm each access, check require password, put in a password, and check configure network automatically to accept connections
[07:49] <indus> emacs: it seems like a hardware issue
[07:49] <loof> then just run tightvnc on the windows machine, tell it to connect to the ip of your linux box, boom, done
[07:49] <unix> perbl: im usiang an older fx5500 agp card, and mine has 3 alt outs, this is an old card, im sure you can make better given the drivers
[07:49] <unix> if not, give me your exact setupd, and the nvidia drivers you used
[07:49] <jthomas> loof: right, right, i did all that and windows is still terminating the connection
[07:50] <CoderX> hi, i am using version 8.10 desktop. i cannot mount nfs in boot time. any one can you help? i can mount nfs shared files after booted using mount -a cmd. can any one help me? awaiting ur response.
[07:50] <emacs> indus: ok if it is a hardware issue then y its not affecting boss linux...
[07:50] <jthomas> Mkop: yeah, the ssh proxy literature is pretty small
[07:50] <loof> *windows* is still terminating the connection?
[07:50] <loof> aren't you trying to access the linux box from windows??
[07:50] <loof> and if so, how is it "terminating the connection" exactly?
[07:51] <indus> adhil: just dont do any work on the system or reboot if you want to recover the file
[07:51] <indus> adhil: http://www.xs4all.nl/~carlo17/howto/undelete_ext3.html
[07:51] <perbl> unix: right.., so a newer driver magically conjures a third dvi-output on my graphics card? :)
[07:51] <Mkop> jthomas: what happens if you just ssh -XC proxy, and then ssh -XC remote? what happens?
[07:51] <indus> adhil: i had a better guide but i cant find it
[07:51] <emacs> indus: hello u der??
[07:52] <unix> didnt say that, what driver are you using?
[07:52] <adhil> indus: i did somany works after that hope this will work.. thankyou for sharing the link :)
[07:52] <CoderX> hi, i am using version 8.10 desktop. i cannot mount nfs in boot time. any one can you help? i can mount nfs shared files after booted using mount -a cmd. can any one help me? awaiting ur response.
[07:52] <indus> emacs: ya
[07:52] <indus> emacs: cant really say
[07:52] <CoderX>  :'(
[07:52] <indus> emacs: i suggest you file  a bug in launchpad
[07:52] <unix> and if your trying to use two cards right now, dont bother
[07:52] <unix> tuse ONE
[07:52] <indus> !launchpad > emacs
[07:53] <indus> adhil: wait i suggest another link
[07:53] <perbl> unix: the 173-drivers from nvidia
[07:54] <perbl> which are the newest that supports the FX5200-card
[07:54] <emacs> indus:i forgot to tell one more thing ..i have an ati graphics chipset..
[07:54] <unix> for both cards?
[07:54] <CoderX> hi, i am using version 8.10 desktop. i cannot mount nfs in boot time. any one can you help? i can mount nfs shared files after booted using mount -a cmd. can any one help me? awaiting ur response.
[07:54] <peterly> icr.ongame.com
[07:54] <indus> emacs: which one
[07:54] <Mkop> jthomas: ok, I've got to go to sleep. good luck
[07:54] <jthomas> Mkop: thanks
[07:54] <unix> !ban peterfly no advertising
[07:54] <perbl> unix: yeah
[07:54] <adhil> indus: yes i will wait... or any tools like norton file recovery in windows will make my task easier
[07:54] <emacs> indus:xpress 200 on board
[07:55] <loof> jthomas can you ping the linux box from the windows box?
[07:55] <perbl> unix: you can't use two versions of the kernel module at the same time afaik
[07:55] <indus> adhil: norton is for windows files not for unix
[07:55] <jthomas> loof: yes, that works
[07:55] <unix> why do you need 3 displays?
[07:55] <perbl> unix: seriously dude!
[07:55] <indus> emacs: can you play games on the system?
[07:55] <perbl> when someone asks for help regarding networking, do you ask them if they need networking?
[07:55] <unix> and if you need 3, and your using two cards currently, why not upgrade to 1
[07:56] <adhil> indus: ya... i moved to GNU/Linux recently not familiar with much tools
[07:56] <emacs> indus:ya sure i played nfs most wanted  in ubuntu using cedega
[07:56] <susbwoy> Am i able to get a wide screen resolution in the framebuffer for console boot? i know vga=791 on the kernel boot line is 1024x768....
[07:57] <loof> jthomas try the documentation here http://www.realvnc.com/support/portforward.html
[07:57] <Rabbitbunny> susbwoy: yes. look up the mode you want. wikipedia.
[07:57] <unix> lol
[07:57] <indus> adhil: are the files really that important cos frankly the process is complicated
[07:57] <unix> you need non-existant drivers, for two cards
[07:57] <emacs> indus: hello....
[07:57] <unix> tcreate them yourself then
[07:57] <kwtm> If I download a file from the Web using Firefox, how do I save it on another computer?  (I want to type something like "
[07:58] <indus> adhil: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/recover-deleted-files-with-foremostscalpel-in-ubuntu.html
[07:58] <loof> jthomas: "To determine whether or not the IP address displayed by VNC Server is the one you want, visit our VNC Server test page from the computer running VNC Server. This page will tell you the IP address of the computer from which you are browsing and also whether or not a VNC Server is contactable at that address."
[07:58] <perbl> unix: no, as I said, this has worked earlier
[07:58] <indus> emacs: yeah maybe thats the issue? try using the open source ati driver
[07:58] <adhil> indus: not much.. but i would like to learn way to do this because i may face similar situations again
[07:58] <Rabbitbunny> kwtm: for a windows box you need Samba, for a good OS you can use scp, sshfs, mv...
[07:58] <unix> tif not get a beter card, with more recent drivers, with more alt outs, i have 3 connected, at max resx all 3, and they are all fine
[07:58] <perbl> I do not imagine having worked with a triple head setup since ubuntu 6.xx
[07:58] <jthomas> loof: let me try, thanks
[07:58] <loof> kk
[07:59] <loof> i'm out, gonna try installing win7 7201
[07:59] <perbl> unix: good for you, I am asking about tips regarding my setup...
[07:59] <kwtm> If I download a file from the Web using Firefox, how do I save it on another computer?  (I want to type something like "fish://MyOtherKubuntuDesktop/zip/Myfile")
[07:59] <unix> pm me
[07:59] <Rabbitbunny> kwtm: for a windows box you need Samba, for a good OS you can use scp, sshfs, mv...
[07:59] <kwtm> Rabbitbunny: How do I do it with Firefox?
[07:59] <indus> adhil: just dont use shift delete and also, the recovery process is too difficult and only for data recovery people
[07:59] <Rabbitbunny> kwtm: open a terminal and type "man scp".
[07:59] <kwtm> Rabbitbunny: Oh, the destination computer already has sshd running.
[07:59] <perbl> I can always buy myself new monitors for a dualhead setup, but I am interested if it is possible to get this working first
[07:59] <indus> adhil: but you can save that page for reference of course
[08:00] <kwtm> Rabbitbunny: ?? How does that help me save it in Firefox?  I'm trying to do it from Firefox.
[08:00] <indus> adhil: you might end up messing up the good files on the system
[08:00] <kbrosnan> kwtm: it would need to be mounted as a local filesystem to the best of my knowledge
[08:00] <emacs> indus:but again one more problem i previously  installed ati drivers using Hardware drivers app but problem remains the same
[08:00] <indus> !ati > emacs
[08:00] <Rabbitbunny> kwtm: Sweet, so mount the other drive locally with sshfs, then you can manipulate it as if it were local.
[08:00] <emacs> :)
[08:00] <kwtm> Rabbitbunny: Okay, maybe I can clarify: If I'm in Konqueror, I save it as "fish://OtherComputer/Myfilename", so what filename do I use... oh.  sshfs?
[08:01] <kwtm> Rabbitbunny: WOuldn't that need admin privileges?
[08:01] <Rabbitbunny> Yes.
[08:01] <adhil> indus: ok.. if u found any tools which do this easily please share it with me.. it would be very nice
[08:01] <indus> adhil: i shared the link it has the tools mentioned
[08:01] <indus> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/recover-deleted-files-with-foremostscalpel-in-ubuntu.html
[08:01] <Myrtti> what's this fish protocol?
[08:01] <kwtm> Rabbitbunny: Is there a way to do this without using admin privs if I have the same account on both computers?
[08:02] <adhil> indus: ya am going through it, thankyou once again :)
[08:04] <emacs> indus:but 9.04 doent need any fglrx driver??
[08:04] <Kartagis> can you install an ubuntu .deb to debian?
[08:05] <Myrtti> Kartagis: technically yes, but possibilities that you'll break something are quite high
[08:05] <Rabbitbunny> kwtm: No.
[08:05] <Kartagis> thanks Myrtti
[08:06] <vvpalin> hi, i have a question about ssh can someone help me out .. tis just a basic question
[08:06] <Myrtti> Kartagis: also, you will not receive support in either here or in #debian for your solution
[08:07] <MusashiOrig> Amarok 2.1 from http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu eats up 100% cpu for hours, although I don't have too many music files in my collection. Already disabled all scripts, but to no avail. Any hints anyone?
[08:07] <kbrosnan> kwtm: you should be able to connect to a ssh shared drive without using admin privlidges, in gnome places > connect to server. not sure about kde
[08:07] <Myrtti> MusashiOrig: asked in #amarok ?
[08:07] <vvpalin> im just wondering if i open a socks to my server with the -D option ... how long will it stay connected ... is there any limits involved?
[08:07] <josa01> Hi , I am new in ubuntu. I have experience in other linux distribution . can we mount nfs shares at boot time in ubuntu . ?
[08:08] <Myrtti> josa01: fstab
[08:08] <MusashiOrig> Myrtti: ok, just came here because the "get help" option in amarok pointed to a web page which told me to come here...
[08:09] <Myrtti> MusashiOrig: I'm not telling you did wrong
[08:09] <mneptok> MusashiOrig: #amarok or #kubuntu would be better bets
[08:09] <Flannel> josa01: That's a yes (that's something all linuxes are able to do, well, I'll say most for safety's sake)
[08:09] <maxagaz> how to unzip a bunch of numbered zip files ?
[08:09] <josa01> i have set fstab entery . and type mount -a command its work fine . but at boot time its not working . system going to hang
[08:09] <CarlFK2> is there a echo server package?
[08:09] <Flannel> josa01: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo
[08:09] <Myrtti> josa01: do you have _netdev in the options?
[08:10] <MusashiOrig> Myrtti: Just explained, no accusations :-D I do get that you tried your best to help
[08:10] <Myrtti> MusashiOrig: hehe ok
[08:10] <josa01> no , just set "default" as option
[08:13] <Myrtti> josa01: if you don't have network up when the fstab is read and mounted, it will hang. look into that, the man mount has some good pointers to which I always resort
[08:14] <joakimk> I'm having problems with Wikipedia, in Firefox 1.9.0.10. I'm using Ubuntu 8.10, and the math (formulas in Latex) aren't rendered in Wikipedia! Is there anything I can do to fix this?
[08:14] <joakimk> Is it a known problem?
[08:14] <perbl> hm, perhaps try to switch from xinerama to randr and see if that does it for my monitors
[08:14] <joakimk> I'm running updates on a regular basis, as Ubuntu tells me to
[08:14] <Myrtti> joakimk: it shouldn't have anything to do with your ubuntu
[08:15] <joakimk> Myrtti: Firefox, then?
[08:15] <Myrtti> joakimk: could you give me a link to an article that you experience this with?
[08:15] <joakimk> Myrtti: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fano's_Inequality
[08:16] <mneptok> joakimk: ummm ... *what* version of Firefox?!
[08:16] <joakimk> Myrtti: *some* of the math is there, but almost everything in the "Fano's Inequality" paragraph is gone
[08:16] <perbl> aren't they png-images?
[08:16] <wraith0x2b> do you guys thing it would be a bad thing to setup ubuntu to use a home partition I already use for archlinux? I use gnome in ubuntu and ratpoison under arch so configs won't get messed up..but what else should I be careful with?
[08:16] <joakimk> 1.9.0.10
[08:16] <hateball> 1.9.10 of gecko is 3.0.10
[08:16] <Myrtti> joakimk: they're all png images, so they should work
[08:16] <joakimk> Myrtti: well... :)
[08:16] <mneptok> joakimk: i think you're confusing engine and app release #s
[08:16] <bluejeans> wraith0x2b, no problem
[08:16] <klem> Hi
[08:16] <joakimk> Myrtti: The only one working in that section, is "H(e) = − P(e)logP(e) − (1 − P(e))log(1 − P(e))"
[08:17] <joakimk> Myrtti: I typed "about:" in the address bar
[08:17] <Myrtti> joakimk: have you tried refreshing the page with ctrl-f5?
[08:17] <perbl> joakimk: that's because that is a text line
[08:17] <Myrtti> no, shift-f5
[08:17] <bluejeans> only the standard apps like your browser and such will be sharing config files which is almost always ok..
[08:17] <joakimk> Myrtti: yes. the problem is quite persitant
[08:17] <perbl> joakimk: you have a problem with showing png-images
[08:17] <Mohammad[B]> I need a software for viewing the bandwidth usage by programs ... HELP ME
[08:18] <joakimk> perbl: apparently... but I haven't noticed this outside wikipedia
[08:18] <perbl> try to search for png-images in google, and I think you will have the same problem
[08:18] <josa01> Myrtti:  how can i check the network is up ? i have set auto to up interface at boot time . i can see mesg before nfs-common service . have any other way to check to network is up ?
[08:18] <joakimk> perbl: no, I can view PNG fine... just tried it
[08:18] <bluejeans> josa01, ping
[08:18] <perbl> strange...
[08:18] <joakimk> perbl: and, *some* images (formulas in wikipedia) *do* appear
[08:18] <Myrtti> josa01: are you on wireless or ethernet?
[08:18] <perbl> joakimk: have you checked the file type on those?
[08:19] <joakimk> Myrtti: wireless... but I don't think that could be it...?
[08:19] <joakimk> perbl: how's that?
[08:19] <perbl> joakimk: see if they are images and not text as the one you can ciew on the page you just posted
[08:19] <perbl> also, see if they are png or jpg-images
[08:19] <joakimk> perbl: thing is, the images that don't appear, aren't shown *at all* -- no broken images or anything. Just gone
[08:19] <joakimk> nothing to click on
[08:20] <Myrtti> joakimk: if NetworkManager deals with your network, the interfaces may be up before fstab is read and used, but it will not mean there's network connection available
[08:20] <joakimk> perbl: nothing wrong with the wiki article -- if I edit it, I can see the latex math there
[08:20] <perbl> I was not talking about the missing ones, I meant the ones you saw :)
[08:20] <josa01> Myrtti: ethernet
[08:20] <Schwag> lol
[08:20] <joakimk> perbl: gotcha
[08:20] <perbl> joakimk: yeah, but the latex math is processed into a png-image on the server side
[08:21] <perbl> if you view the page source (not the wiki source), you will only see a png-image included on the page
[08:21] <lex0> can someone please help me with my partition?
[08:21] <joakimk> perbl: hm, the ones that are there, appear to be text. What do you think; I can see the "H(e) = − P(e)logP(e) − (1 − P(e))log(1 − P(e))" part
[08:21] <joakimk> of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fano's_Inequality
[08:21] <perbl> joakimk: yeah
[08:21] <joakimk> Myrtti: I don't follow...
[08:21] <bluejeans> lex0, probably.. state your problem
[08:21] <Myrtti> joakimk: sorry
[08:21] <joakimk> perbl: apart from that one, I have " The Fano's inequality is
[08:21] <joakimk>     H(X|Y)\leq H(e)+P(e)\log(r),
[08:21] <joakimk> where
[08:21] <joakimk>     H\left(X|Y\right)=-\sum_{i,j} P(x_i,y_j)\log P\left(x_i|y_j\right)
[08:21] <joakimk> is the conditional entropy,sorry
[08:21] <FloodBot2> joakimk: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:21] <joakimk> paste error
[08:22] <joakimk> interesting though... (sorry for flooding, was an accident
[08:22] <lex0> bluejeans: ok if i show u an output of my partitions now can you help me setup a separate partition so that i can use windows(juss want it for games and music stuff)
[08:22] <joakimk> perbl: but my flood-paste does show that the images are there; I obviously get the alt-text when I copy-pasted
[08:23] <perbl> joakimk: yeah
[08:23] <perbl> hang on a sec
[08:23] <eggy_> Hello, when I log out in kde with a gtk app like firefox open, and log back in, kde starts a firefox with non-themed gtk look (or perhaps another gtk version?). How do I remedy this?
[08:24] <kraut> moin
[08:24] <Guest8010> any one can help to deploy firestarter
[08:24] <Schwag> eggy; dont leave ff open when you close :p
[08:24] <eggy_> Schwag: well, that's not an option
[08:24] <barf> how can I time a query on the commandline? I have tried this: date;curl "http://www.nytimes.com/";curl
[08:24] <perbl> joakimk: can you see http://unixgen.com/~perbl/tmp/1b3af5de72121cf46c0f968dd3651ace.png
[08:24] <kbrosnan> joakimk: you need to install math fonts
[08:24] <Schwag> close ff before you log out
[08:24] <barf> However it only measures seconds
[08:25] <eggy_> barf: 'time'
[08:25] <barf> will it tell me fractions of secs as welll?
[08:25] <eggy_> Schwag: surely that's only a workaround
[08:25] <eggy_> barf: try it and see for yourself
[08:25] <Guest8010> help needed to deploy firestarter
[08:25] <joakimk> pretty: yes
[08:25] <joakimk> kbrosnan: yeah?
[08:25] <eggy_> Schwag: and one that doesn't fit my requirements
[08:26] <joakimk> perbl: yes, I can see that PNG
[08:26] <Schwag> eggy ff does that o any os, mac,x,windows etc, you have to close it beofre you log out
[08:26] <joakimk> kbrosnan: How do I do that, using apt-get? :)
[08:26] <perbl> joakimk: seems like you have something specific to wikipedia then, that image was saved from the article
[08:26] <joakimk> perbl: but how is that possible?
[08:27] <kbrosnan> joakimk: http://www.mozilla.org/projects/mathml/fonts/
[08:27] <perbl> kbrosnan: why does he need math fonts, when there are png-images he is struggling with?
[08:27] <eggy_> Schwag: oh I see. I guess I'll have to stick with that then. Thanks
[08:27] <Schwag> np
[08:27] <perbl> he sees the stuff written in text, it is the images that are the problem
[08:27] <kbrosnan> perbl: afik wikipedia trys to use mathml in some locations
[08:27] <Schwag> comman sence really
[08:27] <joakimk> perbl: but, since I can see your PNG -- would you still say the problem is with png-images?
[08:27] <perbl> kbrosnan: but the source seems to display only a png-image?
[08:28] <barf> eggy_: time does the job, thank you :-)
[08:28] <perbl> joakimk: but try the math fonts, might be some magic here that I am not aware of :)
[08:28] <joakimk> Thanks, trying it
[08:29] <Piratero> hello
[08:29] <Piratero> any good gui sftp for *nix?
[08:30] <Flannel> Piratero: Filezilla
[08:30] <Piratero> thanks
[08:30] <joakimk> kbrosnan: I can't find any install info (at least that I understand)
[08:30] <joakimk> kbrosnan: do I have to compile the source, or something?
[08:31] <joakimk> kbrosnan: OK, the box on the right, perhaps? ;)
[08:32] <kbrosnan> you can place the styx beta fonts in ~/.fonts and run the command to recache the fonts
[08:32] <kbrosnan> or logout and in
[08:33] <joakimk> kbrosnan: urk... Can I really extract an exe file in Linux?
[08:34] <kbrosnan> http://www.mozilla.org/projects/mathml/fonts/stix/STIXBeta.zip O.o
[08:34] <joakimk> thanks
[08:35] <gerald> anyone here an ati x200m card?
[08:36] <travis_> 3200 hd
[08:36] <joakimk> kbrosnan: so, now I have lots of .ttf and .otf fonts. I just copy all these to ~/fonts ?
[08:36] <travis_> why
[08:36] <joakimk> kbrosnan: .fonts/
[08:36] <kbrosnan> yep
[08:37] <joakimk> kbrosnan: If I (for some unknown reason) haven't got a .fonts/ dir, should I just create it?
[08:37] <kbrosnan> yes
[08:38] <gerald> I'm trying to patch this mesa source
[08:38] <gerald> there is this guide that tells me to edit this .c file, but what do I do aftwards?
[08:39] <joakimk> kbrosnan: Ok, restarting X -- thanks for the help, hope it works :)
[08:39] <Piratero> on bash4, PS1 doesn't seem to work being set
[08:39] <Piratero> has it changed?
[08:40] <joakimk> kbrosnan: no... still no math at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fano's_Inequality :(
[08:41] <joakimk> But, you guys are using ubuntu, right? And firefox? And you all see the math at this Wiki page?
[08:41] <joakimk> going nuts on this
[08:41] <kbrosnan> tools > page info > permssions > load images settings?
[08:42] <joakimk> kbrosnan: hehe... Use Default: Allow
[08:43] <skyfollian> the admin should hide those in and out messages, too annoying
[08:43] <bastid_raZor> skyfollian; hide them from your irc client
[08:43] <skyfollian> yeah, good idea
[08:44] <joakimk> Hm, if I go to Page Info > Media, I get a lot of greyed out PNG images with address, http://upload.wikimedia.org/math/a/[some hash].png
[08:44] <joetheodd_> skyfollian, from my understanding of the protocol, thats impossible without removing the ability to have a channel list, as the messages are used for that as well
[08:44] <joakimk> with dimensions 0x0 px
[08:44] <joakimk> that's a lcue!
[08:44] <joakimk> clue
[08:44] <skyfollian> no idea aboot how it works
[08:45] <joakimk> hold on, "Block images from upload.wikimedia.org"! WHat the hell?
[08:45] <perbl> hehe
[08:45] <bernard_> bernard
[08:45] <joakimk> sorry, y'all.. but that's just weird. Well, that should fix it
[08:45] <perbl> problem solved hopefully
[08:45] <joakimk> perbl: yes :)
[08:45] <perbl> goodie
[08:45] <joakimk> perbl: hm... very odd.
[08:46] <joakimk> thanks for the help, though :)
[08:46] <Padhu> anybody used GNUkhata?
[08:47] <v8> IDENTIFY v8 <111333>
[08:49] <hoohaah> ?
[08:50] <skyfollian> done
[08:50] <Tmi> Does anyone else have problems with the resolution being broken at some boots seemingly at random? When this happens I can't change resolution or anything, only thing to do is to reboot. It's getting a bit irritating now as it happens around every third boot or so.
[08:51] <skyfollian> been there myself, dunno how to solve it
[08:51] <v8> help
[08:51] <hoohaah> in what ways does the resolution break?
[08:51] <skyfollian> the resolution set won't stay
[08:51] <Vins> Peoples!
[08:51] <Tmi> hoohaah, it just goes to 1024x768 at 50 Hz with no possibility o change it
[08:51] <Vins> What is admin?
[08:52] <Tmi> when I reboot it goes back to normal
[08:52] <Tmi> so something seems wrong with the graphics drivers not loading or something
[08:52] <hoohaah> Tmi: is you monitor hooked up via dvi?
[08:52] <hoohaah> *your
[08:52] <Tmi> The weird thing is that it only happens on every third boot or so :P
[08:52] <Tmi> hoohaah, I actually have two monitors hooked up, one via dvi and one via normal vga
[08:53] <hoohaah> how did you configure both?
[08:53] <Tmi> by nvidia-settings
[08:53] <Tmi> separate x-screens
[08:53] <hoohaah> are both monitors the same res?
[08:54] <Tmi> nope ... one is 1024x768 and the other 1680x1050
[08:54] <hoohaah> skyfollian: what about you?
[08:54] <skyfollian> guess would be the driver wasn't properly installed
[08:54] <hoohaah> Tmi: FYI I don't have a solution :D I only ask as I'm trying to diagnose my problem too :)
[08:54] <skyfollian> 1400X1050
[08:55] <skyfollian> it breaks after reboots
[08:55] <Tmi> you have the same problem?
[08:55] <hoohaah> yeah
[08:55] <NishaKitty> what's the offtopic channel?
[08:55] <hoohaah> 1920x1080 and 1600x1200
[08:55] <Tmi> how often does it happen for you guys?
[08:55] <skyfollian> every time it reboots
[08:55] <NishaKitty> !offtopic
[08:55] <hoohaah> it happens after init successfully loads, right before gdm kicks in
[08:55] <NishaKitty> nvm :3
[08:56] <hoohaah> i have to manually set the resolution(s) durinmg the session. Reboot undoes any of my changes
[08:56] <Tmi> But is it like for me that at some startups it works fine with no problems, while at some it does not and requires a reboot to work?
[08:56] <hoohaah> Tmi: it might be the drivers, as skyfollian mentioned.
[08:56] <hoohaah> I'm using the same
[08:56] <hoohaah> which Ubuntu release is this?
[08:56] <skyfollian> 8.04
[08:57] <hoohaah> can't find anything on bugtracker remotely similar
[08:57] <Tmi> I'm on 8.10 atm, but I had the same thing happen in 9.04
[08:57] <hoohaah> damn. it's not consistent then. Everything was fine until 9.04 for me
[08:57] <Tmi> Well, I'll try reinstalling the driver and see if that helps, otherwise I guess I'll make a thread about it on the forums
[08:57] <skyfollian> i will install the 9.04 tonight
[08:57] <mintux> when I run sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-`uname -r` linux-source-`uname -r`  I got E: Couldn't find package linux-source-2.6.27-7-generic
[08:58] <hoohaah> 9.04 has one helluva sexy splash screen (gdm)
[08:58] <hoohaah> wish it'd use native resolution of my first montior though :(
[08:58] <Tmi> 9.04 does not go well with my eyes for some reason :P, I always get sore eyes fast in it even though resolution, fonts etc are the same
[08:58] <skyfollian> i 'd probably compile the kernel downloaded from other sources myself
[08:59] <whois> hey everyone
[08:59] <whois> I wanted to ask if the is a way of increasing virtual memory in ubuntu
[08:59] <hoohaah> mintux: if this is a custom kernel, use make-kpkg to build kernel_image as well as modules_image (if needed) and linux_headers
[08:59] <whois> and is it recommended
[08:59] <skyfollian> nvidia 8400GS video card, lol
[08:59] <hoohaah> Tmi: it's probably the refresh rate
[09:00] <Tmi> nah that's the same too
[09:00] <Tmi> that is what makes it so weird :P
[09:00] <hoohaah> whois: it's not needed, usually. And by virtual memory- do you mean swap space?
[09:00] <Tmi> I had just the same problem in archlinux
[09:00] <Tmi> I think it has something to do with the new xorg rendering or something
[09:01] <whois> I mean the equivalent of vidown were you can free up diskspace to use as RAM
[09:01] <skyfollian> yeah, the rendering part pisses me off
[09:01] <hoohaah> whois: that's swap at work
[09:01] <perbl> there, three separate screens working fine
[09:02] <hoohaah> whois: cat /proc/swaps
[09:02] <skyfollian> swap myfriend, just turn it off, swapoff
[09:02] <perbl> now just to trick all three into one giant screen without using xinerama, and I should be good to go :)
[09:02] <whois> Thank you
[09:02] <whois> is ti recommended though
[09:02] <skyfollian> delete the partition, builda new one with yr free disk space
[09:02] <whois> thanks
[09:02] <hoohaah> whois: well, it's only recommended if you're extremely low on ram
[09:03] <hoohaah> whois: you'd need to consider ram usage at it's peak
[09:03] <whois> thanx Hoohah, you are god
[09:03] <skyfollian> of cos, dun forget yr fstab
[09:03] <whois> a god*
[09:03] <hoohaah> without needing to manually partition again to increse swap (if you had it on a separate partition,) you can always use a swap file
[09:04] <hoohaah> whois: actually, I'm a crude slang term ;)
[09:04] <skyfollian> yeah, similar to pagefile of windows
[09:04] <Tmi> seems I was using nvidia-177 instead of nvidia-180
[09:04] <Tmi> Hope that fixes my problems, will try a few reboots now and see
[09:04] <hoohaah> but I guess I can be worshipped by some.. so 'God' would be fitting then :)
[09:04] <skyfollian> lol
[09:04] <zhjawe> Does anyone know how to rotate window in plane in Ubuntu?
[09:05] <indus> zhjawe: whats a plane?
[09:05] <whois> Thanx anyway, I am in canada, and if u checkout the Canada ubuntu site - you would writhe with anger.
[09:05] <hoohaah> X Y Z
[09:06] <zhjawe> indus:in desktop.
[09:06] <hoohaah> whois: that's more a blog than anything, right?
[09:06] <zhjawe> I want to develop a g-sensor enviroment.
[09:06] <indus> zhjawe: isnt that done by compiz
[09:07] <hoohaah> dinner
[09:07] <zhjawe>  indus:What is option in compiz?
[09:07] <whois> I looked at it, there had more of a news update thing. I just thinkUbuntu is great, and it should be marketed more.
[09:07] <skyfollian> hoohaah: aussie?
[09:07] <whois> and Marketing starts with an interactive blog/website
[09:08] <indus> zhjawe: cube effect i think but iam not sure i understand your question
[09:08] <pvh_sa|wrk> heya... i've got a 9.04 machine here which seems to have very poor ethernet performance... its on a 100Mbit network but TCP (measured with NPtcp) peaks out at 7 Mbit/s - nothing i can see in the logs - any ideas?
[09:08] <skyfollian> lan card?
[09:08] <skyfollian> try diffrent one?
[09:08] <zhjawe> indus:Thank you,i will try it.
[09:09] <skyfollian> try changing yr cable to see how it goes
[09:09] <pvh_sa|wrk> skyfollian, builtin lan... and buying a new one is not really an option... but yeah will try the cable!
[09:10] <indus> zhjawe: somewhere in window management in compiz conf settings manager
[09:11] <Tmi> Iäve tried reinstalling the new driver, and it seems to have solved my problem. Tried a couple of reboots now and each time the resolution was fine :)
[09:11] <kblin> hi
[09:13] <skyfollian> yeah, driver
[09:13] <kblin> is there any kvm frontend for 8.04 that actually works? virt-manager fails to start any non-debian-based machine not created pre-8.04 and qtemu seems to hang once in a while as well
[09:13] <skyfollian> i was not able to install 180 driver on my box, no idea, now i will try 9.04
[09:14] <tumann> Д
[09:15] <Dbug> can somone help me with aptitude? i have accidentially installed vim-full on a non-X-server and want to undo the installation of all these packages
[09:15] <Dbug> but uninstalling vim-full just removes this one package.. the other 158MB of unused data stay on the system..
[09:17] <tumann> \msg NickServ identify <123698741>
[09:17] <tsimpson> Dbug: try "sudo aptitude autoremove"
[09:17] <skyfollian> wtf
[09:17] <skyfollian> tumann, r u serious
[09:17] <Myrtti> skyfollian: mind your language
[09:17] <skyfollian> sorry
[09:17] <Myrtti> tumann: time to change passwords
[09:18] <Tmi> classic irc mistake :D
[09:18] <skyfollian> no swearing here, huh?
[09:18] <Myrtti> skyfollian: no
[09:18] <Dbug> tsimpson: does not work - this option is not available ( hardy )
[09:19] <skyfollian> very quick reaction, lol
[09:20] <tsimpson> Dbug: ok, try with "sudo apt-get autoremove", if that fails you can try using (and installing) deborphan
[09:21] <Dbug> tsimpson: thx - i'll try deporphan
[09:21] <Dbug> or reinstall the server...
[09:22] <marcinolot> hi
[09:22] <aidehua> My system is booting slowly, but I can't see what it's doing because of the splash screen.  How can I see the boot messages?
[09:23] <tsimpson> Dbug: aptitude should also keep a log of what was installed/removed in /var/log/aptitude*, so you could look in there before resorting to a reinstall
[09:23] <skyfollian> /var/log/boot?
[09:24] <Dbug> tsimpson: i found that already but how to uninstall all of these packages without geting into the trouble of their dependencies?
[09:24] <joetheodd_> aidehua, edit /etc/grub/menu.lst. From all the kernels in the list at the bottom, remove quiet, splash, etc.
[09:24] <aidehua> joetheodd_: sure.  I actually wanted to see what it was doing at the moment.
[09:25] <tsimpson> joetheodd_: aidehua: just remove "splash", not "quite". unless you want lots of kernel messages
[09:25] <aidehua> (I was pretty sure I could press escape, or something, and the splash screen would be replaced with what would've been shown, if splash wasn't on.
[09:25] <felix_> Good morning! I'm using an PCMCIA UMTS card to connect to the web. If I activate my Wireless LAN the System always uses the WLAN as it's standard connection. But I want to be on the internet via UMTS and want to be plugged into the WLAN, as well. How can I do that?
[09:25] <tsimpson> Dbug: apt/aptitude should want to remove the unused dependencies for you, once it sees a package is unused
[09:25] <pvh_sa|wrk> skyfollian, thanks it was the network cabling
[09:25] <skyfollian> yw
[09:26]  * aidehua gave up and just reset anyway, and the second boot was fine.
[09:26] <sreyes> exit
[09:26] <joetheodd_> felix_, not sure I understand. You want to have two connections enabled?
[09:27] <Dbug> tsimpson: it unfortunately issnt.. i am new to debian / ubuntu / apt / aptitude so i do not know if i have something wrong on my installation
[09:27] <felix_> joetheodd: Right! I want to share my Internet via the WLAN connection!
[09:27] <bigpresh> felix_: You'll need to set up appropriate routes; for instance, make the UMTS connection your default route, then set up a route for your network's IP range to go via the wifi connection
[09:27] <bigpresh> felix_: You'd do that with the cunningly-named 'route' command
[09:28] <joetheodd_> bigpresh, from my experience, a prerequisite is a bottle of ibuprofein on your desk. You'll figure out why.
[09:28] <bigpresh> joetheodd_: Hehe :)
[09:29] <felix_> bigpresh: Okay, I'll try figuring something out via the wiki - and if I don't have any clue, I'll ask again :D
[09:29] <tsimpson> Dbug: it probably has to do with all the gnome dependencies, when removing libglib2.0-0 and libx11-6 most of it will be removed
[09:30] <Dbug> tsimpson: vim-full has only vim-comon wich has vim-gnome.. and there the mess starts..
[09:31] <joetheodd_> Dbug, for troubleshooting dependencies, try apt-cache showpkg [packagename]
[09:31] <joetheodd_> Dbug, that'll list off all the dependencies and what's depending on it.
[09:31] <tsimpson> Dbug: libglib2.0-0 is the base library that everything in gnome depends on, and libx11-6 is the library for X.Org. so when they are removed pretty much every X app will be too
[09:32] <Dbug> tsimpson: i'll try that *g*
[09:34] <Dbug> its installing vim-gtk now.. befor removing other libs !?
[09:34] <AdvoWork> is there a command I can use to move all files in a directory, to another directory?
[09:34] <tsimpson> it shouldn't install anything...
[09:34] <YankeeWhite> i'm installing ubuntu for the first time :) :) :) :) :)
[09:34] <tsimpson> AdvoWork: mv dir1/* dir2
[09:35] <skyfollian> i guess if i were you, i would leave the installed crap there, avoid breaking the system, just 100 megabytes
[09:35] <Janhouse> This id dhutdown menu for debian: http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/1326/shutdownmenu.jpg
[09:35] <Janhouse> This is for Ubuntu:http://images.howtoforge.com/images/wubi_ubuntu_on_windows/big/25.jpg
[09:35] <Tiede> @AdvoWork cp /destination/directory/ /source/directory/*
[09:36] <Janhouse> How can I make Debian's shutdown menu look like the one in ubuntu?
[09:36] <tsimpson> Tiede: that will not move, but copy
[09:36] <Tiede> @AdvoWork ooops! I meant mv. cp merely copies files....
[09:36] <tsimpson> Tiede: and it's the wrong way
[09:37] <Tiede> @Janhouse install fast-user-switcher applet
[09:37] <koshari> Tiede other than that its not bad :-)
[09:37] <naxa> how can I set default program for a file extienson what I don't currently own? For example I want to set smplayer for all mkv files but I don't actually have an mkv file, and I don't want to create one just to be able to use nautilus->right click->properties->open with->set default program. And/or do anyone know where gnome/nautlius keeps the default program associations?
[09:37] <cantor> server socallinux.org
[09:37] <cantor> oops
[09:38] <Tiede> @koshari good point! (wow, what's with me tonight...)
[09:38] <Dbug> tsimpson: removing these two libs seems to help me out of my misery *g*
[09:38] <Janhouse> Tiede I have it installed
[09:39] <koshari> naxa i would suspect it would be somewhere in gconf-editor
[09:39] <Tiede> then right-click on the panel and select add applet. then select User Switcher
[09:39] <Tiede> no need to go in gconf-editor for that ;)
[09:40] <naxa> koshari, a person I've asked before just found out that there is a file "~/.local/share/applications/mimeapps.list" what has some mime-types and some application association to them
[09:40] <naxa> this is not a complete solution but it's getting better
[09:40] <Tiede> @koshari obviously, my brain is NOT working tonight. I caught that as i pressed enter... I think i need sleep :(
[09:41] <JonTheNiceGuy> naxa I've only just joined the channel - are you having a problem with the Netbook Release and file associations in Firefox?
[09:42] <naxa> JonathanD, not really, I was asking if anyone knows a way to pre-associate file-types with applications without actual files with a specific extienson. In general, if anyone knows where gnome/nautilus keeps file associations and if there is a better way to set them than right click a file then properties.
[09:43] <JonTheNiceGuy> naxa: OK, in that case, I'll quiet down then :)
[09:43] <naxa> :)
[09:45] <Tiede> @naxa That is a GOOD question! I've always wondered same myself...
[09:45] <th1> does anyone know where I can find docs on how to set up username/group mapping for NFS on 2 hosts that have different usernames and groups?
[09:45] <tiyowan_> naxa: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=139459 - Perhaps this might be of use.
[09:46] <Tiede> @naxa Look for this entry ---> Applications | Desktop Preferences | Advanced | File types and programs
[09:46] <Symmetria> hrm, question, does anyone know if linux can do per packet load balancing with an IGP, and does linux support NHRP
[09:47] <indus> maybe ubuntu networking channel is a good idea
[09:47] <indus> )
[09:47] <indus> should be started i think
[09:47] <cjae> K before I go and put in the broken Nvidia driver (180), the one the doesn't do separate screens and twinview screens on wrong screens, is the 185 version packaged yet?
[09:47] <Tiede> @naxa If all else fails, there's always the good 'ole manual way... There's a description in this blog: http://linux.seindal.dk/2004/07/01/nautilus-2-6-and-mime-types/
[09:47] <indus> so many networking questions phew
[09:48] <naxa> Tiede, tiyowan thank you for help! :) looking the pages
[09:48] <cjae> OR does anyone know when its will be?
[09:48] <The_Warlock> i get the following error for aterm
[09:48] <tiyowan> Symmetria: NHRP would be that Cisco tech right?
[09:48] <The_Warlock> aterm: can't load font "Terminus"
[09:49] <Symmetria> tiyowan I dont know if nhrp is cisco only
[09:49] <Symmetria> I dont think so though
[09:49] <The_Warlock> even though i have the font installed on my ubuntu bix
[09:49] <The_Warlock> box
[09:49] <Tiede> @The_Warlock it means the font "Terminus" is not installed on the system, but is asked for by aterm (as monospace font)
[09:50] <Symmetria> heh I'd happily run an ubuntu networking channel ;p
[09:50] <indus> Symmetria: :)
[09:50] <Tiede> @The_Warlock hmm... are you sure it is installed somewhere aterm can access it? If it is only local and aterm is running as root, I can see that happening
[09:51] <The_Warlock> Tiede: its already installed i use it on terminal
[09:51] <Symmetria> heh, networking is pretty much my life :) except normally its not with linux stuff, in this case I wanna use an open source platform to try and simplify a setup and remove some expensive hardware that shouldnt be needed
[09:51] <naxa> Tiede, what do you mean by Appliactions | desktop preferences | ...? In Applications _menu_, I don't have "Desktop Preferences", nor in gconf, and actually there is nothing named "Desktop preferences" in my "system -> administration". sorry if this is a lame question. :)
[09:51] <Symmetria> ;p using 25 thousand dollar routers to load balance dsl routers isnt sensible
[09:52] <Fragsworth> Is it possible to load the Ubuntu installation CD on a USB drive and install it from there?
[09:52] <The_Warlock> Tiede: its installed as i already use it in terminal...but some how aterm doesnt recognozize it
[09:52] <_ruben> Fragsworth: yes, lots of howtos cover that
[09:52] <insmod> I found a hack around the broken gui for alsa /dev/audio1 -- works in every other webcam app (anyway)-- if you could fix it great if not it works my way --- the gui can't set audio in alsa and won't allow an oss one unless u write it yourself
[09:52] <tiyowan> Fagsworth: Yes, it is...check out the below.
[09:52] <insmod> in vlc stream that is
[09:52] <tiyowan> !install | Fagsworth
[09:52] <Tiede> @naxa sorry. I have a French System, and it sounded right... it used to be called that way, though... Desktop ''sum'thin' " should work ;)
[09:53] <cypha> can someone tell me what the CL command is for "showing an application"?
[09:53] <cypha> like "restoring" it
[09:53] <naxa> Tiede, will try, I've a hungarian system :P
[09:53] <cypha> an application that is already running
[09:53] <naxa> now I've to go due to I'm running out of time. bye
[09:54] <tiyowan> cypha: You mean like...restoring an application window? Unminimizing it?
[09:54] <cypha> yup
kill then restart
[09:54] <Tiede> @cypha I am not sure I get your question, do you mean a program that is misbehaving?
[09:54] <cypha> i have a minimized program
[09:54] <cypha> and i just want to restore it
[09:54] <cypha> from the command line
[09:54] <tiyowan> cypha: Well - can't your alt-tab to it?
[09:54] <cypha> skype, for example
[09:54] <Tiede> @cypha to unminimize, try Alt+Tab
[09:54] <FloodBot2> cypha: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:54] <cypha> ...from the command line
ps -aux |grep app & killall-9 app or kill -9 pid of app & app
[09:55] <cypha> that's safe?
[09:55] <cypha> it won't restart the application?
[09:55] <cypha> skype is already running, i just want to unminimize it
[09:56] <Tiede> @cypha well, no. That will restart it.
[09:56] <tiyowan> insmod: That'll kill the app. :P
yes it will
[09:56] <Koheleth> !hardware
[09:56] <Tiede> @cypha. Your best bet is just to alt+tab it
kills it -- you need just the app?
[09:56] <cypha> yup
[09:56] <cypha> i already ran the app, i just want to restore it
[09:57] <Koheleth> is this applicable to Jaunty plz https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWiredNetworkCardsNvidia
 alt tab
[09:57] <cypha> lol
[09:58] <cypha> ok, here's the thing
[09:58] <cypha> i want a shortcut for skype
[09:58] <l2s> Hi
[09:58] <cypha> so i created a keyboard shortcut, the command is "skype"
[09:58] <cypha> but if i run that command after skype has started, it just runs another instance
[09:58] <Tiede> @cypha Ah! most programs show the main window when they are "re"invoked...
[09:58] <cypha> i just want to bring forth the old instance
[09:58] <yaris123456789> how can i get status of how much bandwith my server is currently using ? like my overall download speed right now.
[09:58] <l2s> If you are running hardy but need the latest version of git, is there a way to tell apt to update to a package thats available in 9.04
 use cntl S
[09:59] <cypha> i did
[09:59] <cypha> skype will keep replicating
[09:59] <AnnonyMouse> hi guis. been getting a series of installation errors recently w the apt/dpkg installers when installing various apps: "subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1" & "E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)". this is on a fresh hardy 64 vm install, but have been getting it  on other apps too. using standard ubuntu repo's
 alt tab
[09:59] <Myrtti> cypha: that's skype for you
 or a better way is write script for it
[10:00] <marcinolot> skype i nice program. I'm from Poland and i chat with my friend from Israel, cool
[10:00] <cypha> no clue how
[10:00] <Tiede> I'd check skype's man page...
[10:00] <AnnonyMouse> 4 decent skype installation, use ubuntu-tweak
[10:00] <cypha> no man page
[10:00] <Myrtti> I'd note that Skype is a proprietary software that we don't support here, check their webpage and forums
 info
[10:01] <cypha> oh, nice
[10:01] <cypha> AnnonyMouse, what do you mean ubuntu-tweak to install it?
[10:01] <AnnonyMouse> ubuntu-tweak does a stable skype install on 32 & 64-bit
[10:01] <l2s> Do you have to compile or is there a way to tell apt to get the later package
[10:01] <AnnonyMouse> ubuntu-tweak is an app u can use to install some advanced & 3rd party apps, including propietaries
[10:02] <Myrtti> AnnonyMouse: what is this ubuntu-tweak?
[10:02] <cypha> i have skype isntalled
[10:02] <Tiede> @AnnonyMouse does that make skype spawn a second process when called, or does it restore the previous one? That's whay cypha needs
[10:02] <cypha> thanks tiede
[10:03] <YankeeWhite> yay i got my wireless working on ubuntu right away :)
[10:03] <YankeeWhite> first time install going good so far >_>
[10:03] <yaris123456789> KnowWhat: i dont want anything complciated. i just want a simple command that will return the current bandwith its using (3000kb/s) something like that
[10:03] <AnnonyMouse> no idea. i get that too when using it w the pidgin integration plugin, but I've removed all write access once my profile is config's
[10:03] <AnnonyMouse> *d*
[10:03] <cypha> i even tried putting skype on the widget layer
[10:03] <cypha> but anytime i exited a conversation, it exited the widget layer
[10:04] <Myrtti> AnnonyMouse: what's ubuntu-tweak?
[10:04] <AnnonyMouse> http://ubuntu-tweak.com/
[10:04] <AnnonyMouse> yaris123456789: nettop
[10:04] <tiyowan> Myrtti: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-tweak-ubuntu.html
[10:05] <yaris123456789> AnnonyMouse: thanks
[10:05] <AnnonyMouse> anyone here know what's up with the apt/dpkg install errors?
[10:05] <Myrtti> tiyowan, AnnonyMouse in the future, please do not suggest ubuntu tweak to anyone, ok?
[10:05] <tiyowan> Myrtti: I did not suggest it to anyone - I pointed out the link to you.
[10:05] <AnnonyMouse> y not? it does the job & avoits complications. same as envy-ng
[10:06] <cypha> thanks guys
[10:06] <mainstream_> what's wrong with ubuntu tweak?
[10:06] <mainstream_> :S
[10:06] <Myrtti> AnnonyMouse: because that isn't official part of ubuntu
[10:06] <Tiede> @cypha I was trying the Dev pages for skype, but it's not clear :( https://developer.skype.com/Docs/ApiDoc/FrontPage
[10:06] <mainstream_> so because it's not official it's shouldn't be discussed?
[10:06] <Myrtti> mainstream_: we haven't checked if it's kosher
[10:07] <AnnonyMouse> tru. but neither is skype, nor is vmware,  nvidia/ati propietary drivers. t's a tool that get's the job done
[10:07] <mainstream_> ok :) well i used it a couple times, and it's great for me
[10:07] <mainstream_> :)
[10:07] <AnnonyMouse> & neither is the FAT fs, or NTFS or HFSpluss
[10:07] <Myrtti> AnnonyMouse: and we don't support skype here either
[10:08] <koshari> naxa: this file may be wortha look, /usr/share/mime/packages/freedesktop.org.xml
[10:09] <AnnonyMouse> no. but it's important to support the migration off commonly-used platforms. an all-or-nothig position is not going to garner any new users
[10:09] <ikonia> AnnonyMouse: those packages are included in the main repos - so have community support, tweak does not, so it's not supported
[10:09] <simplexio> Myrtti: bashing ubuntu-tweak because it isnt official sound bad idea
[10:10] <ikonia> simplexio: thats not the reason
[10:10] <AnnonyMouse> i get ur point, though i would caution being acommodating 2 n00bs until they're comfy enough to go full-FLOSS. it's taken me years of hard work 2get 2 that pont
[10:10] <ikonia> simplexio: it's a dangerous product that can have negative effects on your syste,,
[10:10] <zekai> jjjj
[10:10] <Tiede> @ikonia , Myrtti well, do you know a better metapackage that is already in the repos?
[10:10] <ikonia> AnnonyMouse: don't call people "n--bs"
[10:10] <tiyowan> ikonia: Ah I get it now. Goof point.
[10:10] <tiyowan> ikonia: er, good.
[10:10] <simplexio> Myrtti: if you rally want to have all conversation "official" in this channel then you allow only canonical employee to answer questions
[10:10] <ikonia> AnnonyMouse: `"n00bs" sorry
[10:10] <mrvdv> how do i install a i386 file
[10:11] <AnnonyMouse> y not? i was a n00b, and in some regard I still am
[10:11] <ikonia> mrvdv: what file/product do you want to use ?
[10:11] <zekai> merhaba
[10:11] <simplexio> ikonia: can have? or its very unstable ?
[10:11] <simplexio> ikonia: even normal upgrade can have negative effect to your system
[10:12] <AnnonyMouse> so? nobody have any insights into the apt/dpkg installation errors cropping up?
[10:12] <simplexio> actually.. using ubuntu after installation can have negative performace to system :)
[10:12] <pixie79> hi, i am making a new kernel but my make-kpkg command is failing with the following error, does anyone have any ideas:  making target binary-arch [new prereqs: do-binary-arch]
[10:13] <Tiede> @simplexio I second that! upgrading to Intrepid then Jaunty made by graphics all fuzzed and blue... Can't watch any videos now :'(
[10:13] <Tiede> @simplexio Isn't that a common fact of all operation systems :D ;)
[10:13] <AnnonyMouse> I've had that issue b4 with another system making use of regular deb repo's, but this is a fresh VM jaunty, and relates to a std package in repo: apt-cacher-ng
[10:13] <simplexio> Tiede: yes it is, ubuntu just dosent degreade that much :)
[10:13] <tiyowan> simplexio: I think you misunderstood slightly. Take for example, a custom kernel. I doubt that a custom kernel is supported.
[10:14] <AdvoWork> is there a way to get all computer names/ip addresses on my network? sudo nmap -O 192.168.1.0/24 gets ip's but not comp names
[10:15] <simplexio> tiyowan: probably.. there are stuff that is supportyed , stuff that isnt supported and stuff that is so unstable that just installing and running it once will probably broke system
[10:15] <koshari> AdvoWork there is a way to do that, i did it a while ago, its slow, but i forgot the command
[10:15] <JonTheNiceGuy> AdvoWork: Try adding -R
[10:15] <simplexio> so if ubuntu-tweak is one of those dangerous programs, then i agree that ppl should warn about it. in other case myrtti shouldnt comment about talking about it
just configure a new kernel
[10:16] <AdvoWork> JonTheNiceGuy, like -O -R ?
[10:16] <simplexio> AdvoWork: names as ? dns ?hostnames ? or what
[10:17] <JonTheNiceGuy> AdvoWork: Sounds about right
[10:17] <Myrtti> simplexio: which is why I'm reading the source of it now
netstat
[10:17] <AnnonyMouse> simplexio : i believe that 1 should be wary of ANY propietry piece of s/w, but that should not deter you from hacking/exploiting it
[10:17] <koshari> AdvoWork try "nmap -v -sP 192.168.0.240-253"
[10:18] <JonTheNiceGuy> AdvoWork: it's namp -v -sP -R 192.168.1.0/24"
[10:18] <tiyowan> Myrtti: I think it just automates the process of editing config files.
[10:18] <AdvoWork> OR can i get the computer name from an IP? if i have that IP directly?
[10:18] <ikonia> AdvoWork: if you have reverse dns setup, sure
[10:18] <AnnonyMouse> AdvoWork: u could use arp for that
[10:18] <simplexio> tiyowan: which has high change to broke system if its implemented wrong
[10:19] <insmod> AdvoWork>yes
[10:19] <cypha> How can i run Google Gadgets from the command line?
[10:19] <cypha> like start it
[10:19] <cypha> google-gadgets doesn't work
[10:19] <debbs> anyboy hear of a firewall called ipconfu
[10:20] <Tiede> @cypha i believe its gg something...
[10:20] <cypha> nope
[10:20] <debbs> oops i mean anybody!
[10:20] <Tiede> @cypha try typing gg and use tab completion (had it a long while ago, but i don't use it anymore)...
[10:21] <cypha> nope
[10:21] <cypha> ggz-wrapper
[10:21] <Tiede> @cypha It's ggl-gtk
[10:22] <tiyowan> simplexio: Agreed. I'm looking at the source code as well - it's written in python.
[10:22] <cypha> says it's not installed
[10:22] <cypha> that's weird
[10:22] <cypha> i just installed google gadgets
[10:22] <cypha> and it's in the system tray
[10:22] <simplexio> Tiede: wink wink.. this one hilights on moust irc clients
[10:22] <dquestions> anyone here drive  an old (90's ) bmw 318i?
[10:22] <cypha> it's in my Applications menu
[10:23] <cypha> can't i find out what the applications menu is doing to run it?
did i park it wrong?
[10:23] <cypha> like you can in windows?
[10:23] <tiyowan> !ot | dquestions
[10:23] <simplexio> im starting to think this channel is worth of it..
[10:24] <simplexio> we have somewhat low traffic moment going on and ppl complain about !ot
[10:24] <cypha> hello? How can I find out what the location the Applications menu is using to run google gadgets?
[10:24] <simplexio> or !windows
[10:24] <Tiede> @cypha go to System->Preferences->Main Menu, select Applications, find it, locate it, and select properties on the right hand side.
[10:24] <tiyowan> cypha: Have you tried typing ggl-gtk from a terminal?
[10:24] <AdvoWork> ok, the problem i have is. im connected to a voip phone, this has an ip(ive got the ip of this) from there, my pc connects to that. can i find the ip from that somehow?
[10:25] <cypha> compiz is gnome, right?
[10:25] <cypha> it's ggl-qt
[10:25] <hellues> hey
[10:25] <cypha> but i thought qt was KDE
[10:25] <cypha> i have compiz, which is gnome, right?
[10:25] <hellues> are there any program to work .dmg on ubuntu
[10:25] <simplexio> AdvoWork: which ip ? voip phone. you could try pinf broadcast address, or simply using tcpdump/wireshark to listen traffic
[10:26] <AdvoWork> simplexio, are they easy to use?
[10:26] <tiyowan> cypha: I suspect you have gnome. Please try: ggl-gtk
[10:26] <cypha> tiyowan, how do i uninstall ggl-qt then?
[10:26] <simplexio> AdvoWork: or calling from voip to pc and using netstat to figure where call came from
[10:26] <simplexio> AdvoWork: yes
[10:26] <cypha> and also, why do i have Qt4 Settings in my Settings>Application menu?
[10:27] <Tiede> @cypha sudo apt-get purge ggl-qt
[10:27] <hellues> any response
[10:27] <Tiede> @cypha you probably have some other app that depends on qt that installed it for windowing purposes..
[10:27] <chocobanana> hellues: The archive manager can possibly you open them but just to see the file and directory contents
[10:27] <simplexio> hellues: what is dmg  ?
[10:27] <koshari> cypha qt is a development platform, kde is developed using qt like many other apps.
[10:27] <cypha> i wonder what, cuz i'm using gnome
[10:27] <AdvoWork> simplexio, i like the sound of calling from voip to pc, how do you mean exactly?
[10:27] <cypha> oh
[10:27] <hellues> max osx extension
[10:27] <hellues> mac*
[10:27] <tiyowan> cypha: If you install an application that uses the qt widgets (which is the one used by the KDE environment), then the qt libraries will be installed as, regardless of whether you're using gnome or kde. And that is why you see the QT4 settings in gnome
[10:28] <cypha> did purge properly remove everything that ggl-qt came with?
[10:28] <simplexio> AdvoWork: ekiga which is registered to same voip network as voip phone
[10:28] <Tiede> yes, purge will remove the program AND it's configurations files
[10:28] <tiyowan> cypha: If it didn't report any errors, then you should be ok. :)
[10:28] <koshari> cypha its likely you have an ap developed using qt, ie, vlc, amarok, k3b, avidemux(qt) ect
[10:28] <cypha> btw, when i ran ggl-qt from the terminal, it said "Not a regular file: /"
[10:29] <flashman5> hi everybody!
[10:29] <simplexio> AdvoWork: do you know what protocol its uses ?
[10:29] <tiyowan> cypha: Are you trying to install google gadgets?
[10:29] <cypha> i had it installed
[10:29] <cypha> ggl-qt
[10:29] <Tiede> @cypha I'd say try sudo apt-get purge ggl-qt google-gadgets && sudo apt-get install google-gadgets again...
[10:29] <cypha> but when i ran that from the terminal (after i installed it), it said  it wasn't a regular file
[10:30] <AdvoWork> simplexio, the pcs are connected to snom phones for SIP. running from a trixbox/asterisk server
[10:30] <tiyowan> cypha: You had the wrong version installed. Try sudo apt-get install google-gadgets-gtk now.
[10:30] <hellues> possible to run mac osx program on ubuntu
[10:30] <tiyowan> cypha: After running this command, "Google Gadgets" should show up in Applications -> Internet
[10:30] <simplexio> AdvoWork: then its easy.. just conf ekiga on pc to use same asterix, and call from voip to pc
[10:31] <Tiede> @hellues you will need an emulator for that
[10:31] <hellues> hmm
[10:31] <simplexio> AdvoWork: or even more easier, go to * server and check registered phones address
[10:31] <cypha> google gadgets QT is still in the applications menu
[10:31] <hellues> are there any emulator
[10:31] <hellues> is it like wine
[10:31] <tiyowan> cypha: Ignore that for the moment.
[10:31] <hellues> how can i find that
[10:31] <cypha> so it didn't fully remove?
[10:31] <AdvoWork> simplexio, ahh didnt think of that. but.. i can get the phone ip fine, its just the ip of the pc
[10:31] <Tiede> @hellues yes. the idea is the same. just Mac instead of windows.
[10:31] <koshari> cypha check the path of the menu app
[10:31] <tiyowan> cypha: It's probably a left-over menu reference. :)
[10:32] <cypha> k
[10:32] <mrvdv> where can i get plesk from ?
[10:32] <simplexio> AdvoWork: ifconfig on that pc ? or was the problem that you could get access to pc
[10:32] <flashman5> I would appreciate is someone could help me with booting the Ubuntu Netbook remix on an Acer Aspire One netbook. I have created the boot pendrive, everything works fine on my eMachines laptop, but when I try to boot the netbook it freezes at the starting options of Ubuntu, no response to keyboard and the strangest is that I dont even get the language selector screen before that
[10:32] <hellues> Tiede,  do you know ones
[10:32] <tiyowan> cypha: I think you can get rid of it if you right-click on your menu and edit it - I don't remember the exact steps, but you have to untick the checkmark next to it to make it go away.
[10:32] <hellues> do you know macosx emulator
[10:32] <cypha> i can still run ggl-qt
[10:33] <cypha> i just ran /usr/bin/ggl-qt from the terminal and it still worked
[10:33] <Tiede> @hellues try www.linux.org/apps/all/System/Emulators.html
[10:34] <AdvoWork> simplexio, ive got access to most pcs, just not this one lol, its typical, eventually i want to be able to manage all ubuntu pcs remotely from this pc. Is that possible(once i have the ip?)
[10:34] <cypha> tiyowan?
[10:34] <harpreet_> how can i open wps files?
[10:34] <koshari> harpreet_ what are they?
[10:35] <Caleb-a-html-cod> Im getting a new laptop in like 3 weeks. It has 4gb ram. Is that enough for it to work?
[10:35] <tiyowan> cypha: Okay. Can you type dpkg -l | ggl, copy the results, go to pastebin.ubuntu.com, paste the results there, and post the link here?
[10:35] <SunnyD> Caleb-a-html-cod: yeah, you will be able to do everything
[10:35] <Tiede> @hellues the link i sent you might be broken... here's a better one. with LOTS more: http://www.thefreecountry.com/emulators/macintosh.shtml
[10:35] <koshari> Caleb-a-html-cod of course, PCs once ran on 600k
[10:35] <zekai> nnn
[10:35] <SunnyD> Caleb-a-html-cod: what do you need ? vmware ? movies, etc... ?
[10:35] <Caleb-a-html-cod> SunnyD: thanks
[10:35] <magnetron> koshari, harpreet_: is it a Microsoft Works word processor file?
[10:35] <norpan111> I try to start xchat but it crashes my whole Seassion, the computer like freeze
[10:36] <norpan111> What could be the reason?
[10:36] <cypha> i found the file
[10:36] <Caleb-a-html-cod> All i needed to know, ty
[10:36] <SunnyD> norpan111: did you check "dmseg" ?
[10:36] <harpreet_> magnetron: yes, koshari
[10:36] <koshari> magnetron: you could try OO or even gedit, however with the second you may lose formating
[10:36] <cypha> in /usr/bin
[10:36] <SunnyD> norpan111: sorry, go to terminal and run "dmesg"
[10:36] <cypha> ggl-qt is still there
[10:36] <koshari> magnetron sorry harpreet_
[10:36] <simplexio> AdvoWork: :) so no access at all to that one pc.. and remove control is possible even between different OS
[10:36] <cypha> if i delete that file, will it be permanently gone with no other remnants?
[10:36] <SunnyD> Caleb-a-html-cod: anything i am buying from now on is 64bit, i dont give a fuck
[10:37] <norpan111> SunnyD:  and now what?
[10:37] <tiyowan> cypha: Please don't delete files directly from /usr/bin - it doesn't work that way.
[10:37] <magnetron> harpreet_→ the standard Open-office that is shipped with new versions of Ubuntu supports it
[10:37] <tiyowan> !language | SunnyD
[10:37] <harpreet_> magnetron: so i should upgrade oo?
[10:37] <CSSnub> during boot when Ubuntu says "Boot from (hd0,4) ext3 ..." is it mounting the drive? It seems to take an extraordinarily long time.
[10:37] <SunnyD> norpan111: i dont know, pastebin.com the outcome it and copy it here we will check
[10:37] <CSSnub> Is my poor little box in distress?
[10:37] <SunnyD> tiyowan: sorry
[10:37] <norpan111> SunnyD:  ok
[10:37] <Tiede> @cypha deleting things left and write in /usr/bin is like playing around with C:/Program Files in windows... Potentially volatile...
[10:37] <magnetron> harpreet_→ no, just use the one that ships with ubuntu.
[10:38] <tiyowan> cypha: Type dpkg -l | ggl, copy the results, go to pastebin.ubuntu.com, paste the results there, and post the link here.
[10:38] <tiyowan> cypha: sorry, it's paste.ubuntu.com
[10:38] <norpan111> SunnyD:  Here it is ; http://pastebin.com/m5695f6d
[10:38] <magnetron> harpreet_→ ubuntu ships with Go-oo that supports Works files. if you install any other version, you'll probably get the regular OO.org that doesn't support works files
eeeek don't do that
[10:39] <SunnyD> norpan111: yeah well don't  only count on me brother, ask around as well :S
[10:39] <SunnyD> :D
[10:39] <norpan111> Yeah
never del a file in user bin = broken system
[10:39] <harpreet_> magnetron: it opens the file but doesnt display contents
[10:39] <norpan111> Everytime i start xchat everything crashes, the picture get all wrong and looks like a puzzel.
[10:40] <AdvoWork> simplexio, whats the best way to go about remotely working on other pcs? terminal services, or ssh or? and how?
[10:40] <Tiede> @everyone I think cypha gets the message now ;)
[10:40] <magnetron> harpreet_→ are you using the standard version that is shipped with Ubuntu? or did you "upgrade" to any other version?
[10:40] <SunnyD> norpan111: have you tried using Pidgin ?
[10:40] <norpan111> SunnyD:  yes pidgin works, but why not xchat? it has worked before
[10:40] <flashman5> can someone help me with the netbook problem? its driving me crazy
[10:40] <tiyowan> AdvoWork: Well - depends on what you're trying to do. For simple file-transfer, ssh is best.
[10:40] <norpan111> SunnyD:  its all since i installed proper drivers for my graphic card
[10:40] <simplexio> AdvoWork: on ubuntu enviroment i would use ssh + vnc
[10:41] <harpreet_> magnetron: standard
[10:41] <norpan111> SunnyD:  also my gnome-do dockdy is very laggy.. and my graphiccard should fix this just fine
[10:41] <AdvoWork> simplexio, and what do i need to setup on client pcs?
ssh fish etc
[10:41] <cypha> tiede, so what should i do?
[10:41] <tiyowan> cypha: Type dpkg -l | ggl, copy the results, go to pastebin.ubuntu.com, paste the results there, and post the link here.
[10:41] <SunnyD> norpan111: have you did sudo apt-get update & sudo apt-get dist-update
[10:41] <Tiede> @flashman5 we don't know what your problem is... tried tossing it out the window?
[10:41] <simplexio> AdvoWork: on mixed env still ssh+vnc.. its pretty simple, and you can share desktop with vnc in ubunut and windows
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[10:41] <norpan111> SunnyD:  no, should i ?
[10:42] <BrixSat> Hello
[10:42] <simplexio> AdvoWork: in ubuntu just mark x to allow sharing desktop and in windows you need to install tightvnc server/realvnc server
[10:42] <bloo> are u talkin to me
[10:42] <SunnyD> norpan111: yes, i would at least try , maybe some update are there: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-update
[10:42] <BrixSat> is there any way to connect to a machine and administer like team viewer or log me in?
[10:42] <simplexio> AdvoWork: there are other option to that server stuff too.. but i dont have experience using that windows own system
[10:43] <SunnyD> norpan111: yes, i would at least try , maybe some update are there: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:43] <SunnyD> norpan: sorry
[10:43] <norpan111> SunnyD:  yeah its done
[10:43] <tiyowan> AdvoWork: If you want to ssh in from a windows box, you could always use cygwin as a quick shell.
[10:43] <norpan111> SunnyD:  dist-update could not be done
[10:43] <norpan111> omg its in swedish i dont how to translate
[10:44] <simplexio> AdvoWork: im not 100% if windows own desktop sharing can be used with open source client..
[10:44] <SunnyD> norpan111:  dist-upgrade
[10:44] <norpan111> oh
[10:44] <koshari> simplexio you can use tightvnc
[10:44] <flashman5> @Tiede: I'm pretty sure it will be the next step:) As I wrote about 5 minutes before I try to boot ubuntu netbook remix from pendrive on an aspire one to install the OS but it freezes at the starting screen where you select to install ubuntu, no response to keyboard
[10:44] <norpan111> SunnyD:  ther is 0 to upgrade and install
[10:44] <norpan111> so im all up-to-date SunnyD
[10:44] <hateball> norpan111: also, there (at least used to) be a bug with the swedish translation, where it says to press "J/N" but it only accepts Y....
[10:45] <SunnyD> norpan111: that suxxx brother
[10:45] <norpan111> hateball:  ok but i always press y anyway:P
[10:45] <SunnyD> norpan111: usually dmesg tells some information on what went wrong
[10:45] <koshari> flashman5 are you sure your pendrive is bootable, ie have you tried a different iso with unetbootin?
[10:45] <norpan111> SunnyD:  did you read my dmesg?
[10:45] <Tiede> @flashman5 have you checked the md5sums to make sure it's ok?
[10:45] <AdvoWork> simplexio, its just ubuntu - ubuntu which is nice, what do you mean by:  in ubuntu just mark x to allow sharing desktop?
[10:46] <norpan111> flashman5:  have you tried the usb live creator?
[10:46] <flashman5> the strange thing is that I have tried it in my laptop and it booted fine, the live ubuntu started correctly, so the pendrive should be ok
[10:46] <SunnyD> norpan111: i tried, i am no pro @ gnu/linux
[10:46] <simplexio> AdvoWork: its in desktop setting if i recall right
[10:47] <flashman5> but when I try in the aspire one it doesnt even gives me the language selector screen, just gives the freezed starting options
[10:47] <norpan111> Is there somebody that is "pro" that could read my dmesg ?
[10:47] <simplexio> AdvoWork: setting -> user setting -> desktop setting or something
[10:49] <norpan111> Is there anyone that can read my dmesg to figure out why my whole session crashes when i start Xchat?
[10:49] <Tiede> @norpan111  your dmesg does not provide any crash info
[10:49] <norpan111> ok
[10:49] <insmod> anyone wanna tell me if something works?
[10:49] <norpan111> Well i had to restart computer when i start xchat
[10:49] <koshari> flashman5 what bios boot option did you choose?
[10:49] <norpan111> as soon as start xchat the whole screen turns like a puzzel
[10:50] <SunnyD> Tiede: what will provide crash info then ? /etc/log/* ?
[10:50] <SunnyD> insmod: sure go
[10:51] <insmod> http://24.150.99.142/player.html or any payer eg gmpalyer http://24.150.99.142:8080
[10:51] <norpan111> Why does my screen turns into a puzzle when i start XCHAT?
[10:51] <flashman5> @koshari: I see the pendrive in the bios as USB FDD
[10:52] <Tiede> @SunnyD maybe... or /var/log/... best bet is thru the apport, or running the program from the command line.
[10:52] <koshari> flashman5 its not a usb fdd,
[10:52] <norpan111> Tiede:  but as soon as i run the program the screen turns inthingo a puzzle and crashes everyt
[10:52] <SunnyD> insmod: wow works great
[10:52] <flashman5> ??
[10:52] <zeeble> hi. anyone know of a GUI frontend for ffmpeg that works to convert mpg to different formats, including flv?
[10:52] <insmod> great thatnks in html or gmplayer etc
[10:53] <koshari> flashman5 can you change it to usb hdd or something more relevent, itas not going to boot under floppy emulation
[10:53] <SunnyD> insmod: i thought it was a radio station :D so ia dded it to my radio player
[10:53] <norpan111> Tiede:  so im unable to read from terminal
[10:53] <SunnyD> insmod: then i tried the firefox
did firefox work?
[10:54] <flashman5> koshari: how can I change it? it just recognises it as USB FDD
[10:54] <SunnyD> insmod: yes , still working, i see guitars
[10:54] <insmod> lol
[10:54] <Tiede> @norpan111 try piping the output to a file on the desktop and break out of X... ( command >> ~/Desktop/filename)
[10:54] <koshari> flashman5 i dont know i have only ever booted an acer one on a usb cdrom on a guy at works acer one
[10:54] <mrvdv> how can i make a sub domain like whateva.mrvdv.com go to a certain folder on my server ?
can you hear audio
[10:55] <norpan111> Tiede:  i dont know how to do that
[10:55] <SunnyD> insmod: there is audio ? but i see error message at bottom :
[10:55] <norpan111> like
[10:55] <Tiede> @norpan111 command >> ~/Desktop/filename
[10:55] <norpan111> "xchat ~/desktop/filename"  Tiede  ?
[10:56] <AdvoWork> simplexio, basically ive got the ip of the pc now. can i not just ssh to that machine from mine, or do i still have to mess with the client?
[10:56] <Tiede> @norpan111 xchat >> ~/Desktop/filename
[10:56] <SunnyD> insmod: i can hear you now
[10:56] <norpan111> so i nead the >>
[10:56] <ThorsonB> anyone up
ya i rewrote the vlc code -- can you hear
[10:56] <AdvoWork> simplexio, actually I just get connection refused
[10:57] <Tiede> yes, norpan111 , you need it. other wise, it won't work.
[10:57] <norpan111> ok
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[10:57] <flashman5> does anyone know how to change a netbooks settings so that it will see the pendrive as USB HDD instead of USB FDD? Can that cause the boot problem anyway?
[10:57] <norpan111> "the file or catalog does not exist"
[10:57] <norpan111> omg
[10:58] <ThorsonB> How do I install XAMMP?
[10:58] <Tiede> @norpan111 hmm... ok... that's me befuddled...
[10:59] <norpan111> Tiede:  i even created i file on desktop
[10:59] <norpan111> argh
[10:59] <cypha> tiyowan: dpgk command not found
[10:59] <Tiede> i am confused... is "the file or catalogue does not exist" the content of that file?
[11:00] <supersasho> hi.. sometimes in arecord -l i don't have listed my usb webcam microphone, any idea why? it can be "repaired" by rebooting, but this is an anoying solution
[11:00] <Tiede> @cypha it's dpkg
[11:01] <tiyowan> cypha: It's dp*kg* -l | grep ggl
[11:01] <norpan111_> Tiede:  it crashed now when i tried to resize firefox to
[11:01] <norpan111_> what in the name of god is happening?
[11:01] <Tiede> @norpan111 i am confused... is "the file or catalogue does not exist" the content of that file?
[11:01] <alex___> hi! I'm trying to connect to a device with telnet but the \n must be different, because I can connect with HyperTerminal (windows), but I always receive an error when I send a command from linux telnet. I tried minicom, but the device has a IP (not serial) and I can't connect to it.
[11:02] <norpan111_> Tiede:  no it does not find the file
[11:02] <alumno> noelia carboneroç
[11:02] <ghostlines> anyone know where i can find info on adding a tap device to my interfaces file?
[11:02] <norpan111_> Tiede:  i tried to resize the xchat window it crashed, and has not been working since. And now i tried to resize firefox and my session crashed to
[11:03] <cypha> ok, nothing happened when i wrote it this time
[11:03] <cypha> no output
[11:03] <Tiede> @norpan111 there must be something missing from your install. If you have the default ubuntu (with Gnome) in a terminal, type sudo apt-get purge ubuntu-desktop && apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[11:03] <[nrx]> I have a weird problem, not necessarily Ubuntu related. In a hotel, I've purchased wireless access. However, once connected, the browser doesn't load the correct 'login page' so I can't get it enabled. If I boot up in XP or OSX then it's fine. Can anyone help? :(
[11:03] <FloodBot2> !netsplit
[11:04] <Gushter13> hi
[11:04] <norpan111_> Tiede:  can you type that in private msg? cus i get flooded with messages
[11:04] <Tiede> !netsplit| norpan111_
[11:05] <norpan111_> Tiede:  okey, can you still write in private?:P
[11:07] <gms3gr> is there an application i can use to manage the music on my iPhone 1G?
[11:07] <sluxor> I'm using an NEC laptop P8100. When I boot the X-window system on Ubuntu 9.0.4 it shows changing colours, it does the same with all other mainstream Linux distributions except for Slackware. Any Ideas?
[11:07] <[nrx]> I have a weird problem, not necessarily Ubuntu related. In a hotel, I've purchased wireless access. However, once connected, the browser doesn't load the correct 'login page' so I can't get it enabled. If I boot up in XP or OSX then it's fine. Can anyone help? :(
[11:08] <znh_> Hello :)
[11:08] <wazimu> dsd
[11:08] <the-killer> Hello all , how i can increase the max record on mysql server ?
[11:08] <Tiede> @[nrx]  could it be that your browser is blocking scripts or auto-redirections?
[11:08] <znh_> I'd like to put Ubuntu on this USB device.. Is there an IMG file that I can use? I've only seen one for Netbooks. I know the option of installing it from CD. Yet I can't do that at the moment.
[11:09] <SunnyD> [nrx]: looks like you might have static IP or static default gateway still in there ?
[11:09] <[nrx]> Tiede, I guess it's possible but i'm running firefox in both Linux and the others with no problems. I've been to other hotels and not had this problem. It's got me flumaxed
[11:10] <[nrx]> SunnyD, I thought that too but nope. I've tried with the wired connection and wireless - both set the correct IP's and DNS via DHCP so no problems there
[11:10] <gms3gr> is there an application for ubuntu  i can use to manage the music on my iPhone 1G?
[11:11] <znh_> can I use the netbook version of Ubuntu on an Intel Pentium M processor?
[11:11] <haffe> Probably.
[11:11] <grandemahatma> hallo. I want to copy some files via scp, but I'm too lazy to run "scp" for each single file and insert each time my password. Is there a way for creating a batch that does it for me?
[11:11] <haffe> But why would you want to?
[11:11] <sluxor> I'm using an NEC laptop P8100. When I boot the X-window system on Ubuntu 9.0.4 it shows changing colours, it does the same with all other mainstream Linux distributions except for Slackware. Any Ideas?
[11:11] <znh_> haffe, it's the only version that has an IMG file
[11:11] <haffe> znh_: ?
[11:11] <znh_> haffe, I want to install it on USB directly without having the need of a CDROM
[11:12] <haffe> Last time I checked there was an ISO out for every version.
[11:12] <cypha> why didn't the dpkg grep have any output?/?
[11:12] <AdvoWork> i just tried: tar zxfv myfile.gz and it says: gzip: stdin: not in gzip format  any ideas please?
[11:12] <koshari> open ttydev: Permission denied
[11:12] <[nrx]> Tiede, SunnyD: From what I can remember, it doesn't seem to give me a proper connection. Yes, it's connected to the network and I have an address assigned as well as the DNS servers etc however I can't ping any IP on the network (including the default router, DNS etc) It comes back with destination unknown or similar (can't remember, was last night :) )
[11:13] <znh_> haffe, that's why I need an IMG file
[11:13] <haffe> znh_: iso to img should be a trivial conversion
[11:14] <znh_> haffe, but would i twork?
[11:14] <mrvdv> whats better to use. redhat 9 or ubuntu 9
[11:14] <haffe> znh_: Probably.
[11:14] <znh_> haffe, thanks :)
[11:14] <ghostlines> can anyone help me set up a tap device?
[11:17] <grandemahatma> hallo. I want to copy some files via scp, but I'm too lazy to run "scp" for each single file and insert each time my password. Is there a way for creating a batch that does it for me?
[11:18] <haffe> How are the files distributed?
[11:18] <AdvoWork> is there a way to copy a folder from a network location via ssh? ie ive ssh'd into a pc, now i want to copy a pc from my local pc to the one ive ssh'd into?
[11:18] <haffe> Do you want to copy all the files in a directory?
[11:18] <haffe> all files with a certain extension?
[11:18] <koshari> AdvoWork use rsync
[11:18] <AdvoWork> :s
[11:20] <ALExTHeFLOOdBOT> ubuntu's have a graphic tool to do that for you
[11:20] <datar000> I need to download Ubuntu package with mc, and searching for this takes much time.
[11:20] <datar000> Could You jus give me url of a http repository?
[11:21] <[nrx]> I have a weird problem, not necessarily Ubuntu related. In a hotel, I've purchased wireless access. However, once connected, the browser doesn't load the correct 'login page' so I can't get it enabled. If I boot up in XP or OSX then it's fine. Can anyone help? :(
[11:21] <AdvoWork> koshari, any examples? can i do like rsync -a -u -z "/home/user/myfolder/" username@ipwherethefolderis:locationwhereitsgoingto ?
[11:21] <whatvn> login page?
[11:21] <gms3gr>  is there an application for ubuntu  i can use to manage the music on my iPhone 1G?
[11:22] <zorzar> whatvn, a captive portal
[11:22] <whatvn> rhythm box, gms3gr
[11:22] <hoohaah> guys, I'm having a bit of an issue with my wireless network. Atm, it appears that iwconfig lists my link at 1Mbps, far from the 11g speeds promised on the box
[11:23] <gms3gr> thnx whatvn
[11:23] <norpan111_> Tiede:  it crashed
[11:23] <hoohaah> I'm more comfortable with editing debian's /etc/network/interfaces file for iw settings, but it appears that Ubuntu's is fairly bare save for lo0. Where do I set wireless options?
[11:23] <norpan111_> Tiede:  but this time i logged out after a while
[11:23] <hoohaah> Also, is there a recommended way to mount disk partitions besides fstab in Ubuntu?
[11:23] <haffe> Have you tried mount ?
[11:24] <hoohaah> I'm familiar with it >>
[11:24] <norpan111_> As soon as i start xchat or resize a window, the screen turn into a puzzle and i get logged out.
[11:24] <whatvn> I think you must connect to that wireless network, so your browser will know where to go
[11:24] <norpan111_> Can this be a driver issue with my Geforce card?
[11:24] <hoohaah> haffe: I'm wondering if there are any Ubuntuisms I need to familiarise myself with
[11:25] <hoohaah> at stock level, everything appears to be automated (ie bare configs)
[11:25] <norpan111_> Can ubuntu automaticly fix problems with the drivers in that case?
[11:25] <norpan111_> Cus i just activated recommended drivers for my Geforce
[11:25] <hoohaah> and having not used Gnome in, oh, say, 3 years, I'm not sure how Gnome handles static partitions
[11:27] <datar000> linux is going wrong way. It tries to become like windows: trying to do sth by hand is not supported. Bye
[11:27] <hoohaah> woah hit and run
[11:27] <norpan111_> yeah
[11:28]  * whatvn wonders what's going on :-?
[11:28] <AdvoWork> im getting this error, any ideas please? ./configure: 27: cannot open /proc/ksyms: No such file
[11:28] <AdvoWork> :S
[11:29] <Guthur> i installed KDE which seems to have cause ubuntu to prompt for a keyring password on boot; also i have no network access when booting to KDE; first question is the more pressing i think they might be related though
[11:30] <whatvn> AdvoWork: distro?
[11:30] <whatvn> AdvoWork: sorry, version of your ubuntu
[11:30] <natschil> hello, I have an old pgp disk file that was encrypted with something else than gpg quite a while ago. I was wondering if anyone could tell me how I could decrpyt it, or where I should ask (The pgp disk does not require a key, only a passphrase to decrpyt)
[11:31] <natschil> the disk was encrypted on windows
[11:32] <AdvoWork> whatvn, Ubuntu 8.04.2 \n \l
[11:32] <saif> sil vous plais comment je peu ouvrir des fichier .rar sur ubuntu
[11:33] <natschil> !fr |saif
[11:34] <whatvn> AdvoWork: open .configure script and fine ksyms
[11:35] <AdvoWork> vim configure shows: if [ ! -z "`sed -ne '/kernel_thread_R.*/p'</proc/ksyms`" ]; then
[11:35] <AdvoWork> so whats that mean?
[11:36] <jimmyr> hi
[11:36] <jimmyr> anyone using vmware fusion?
[11:36] <mansour> please how can i create non blocking script fork(ing) process in php
[11:36] <whatvn> AdvoWork: replace kallsyms
[11:36] <ddoom> I have a web dav folder that I can mount fine using davfs. anyone know how I can mount this without having to manually enter username and password each time?
[11:36] <whatvn> run that script again
[11:36] <joaopinto> mansour, try asking on #php
[11:36] <whatvn> i'm not sure if it works or not
[11:36] <kebomix> hello , i had program that makes automount , and it changed the path of partition from /media/Music to /media/sda6 , i want to get the path back to /media/Music , how to do that  ?
[11:37] <carpii> im on ubuntu 8.04, and even doing the most trivial of things sends my cpu temp up, and the fan starts blaring. Like opening a 100k document in firefox.  Does 8.04 have some serious issues or something ?
[11:37] <AdvoWork> whatvn, so change proc/ksyms for proc/kallsyms?
[11:37] <whatvn> AdvoWork: yes
[11:38] <natschil> carpii: not that I know of, what hardware do you have?
[11:38]  * DukkaN hi
[11:39]  * DukkaN is away: Estou ocupado
[11:39] <carpii> natschil, its a fairly recent dell machine, dual core 3.2GHz  with 2G ram (only 25% of it in use)
[11:39] <ba5e> Hi anyone good with grub2 here?
[11:40] <whatvn> AdvoWork: work or not?
[11:40] <Guthur> all the web solutions for keyring prompt seem to say delete default.keyring but there does not seem to be one, this is related to nm-applet
[11:40] <Guest_475> hi there
[11:41] <lpetrov> argh, i keep getting a error from the cron about "/etc/cron.hourly/landscape-client", any ideas how to remove it ?
[11:41] <AdvoWork> whatvn, yeah that worked thanks, but after that, i ran make like you're supposed to, and had loads and loads of errors so it failed :S
[11:41] <lpetrov> remove the cron file ?
[11:41] <natschil> carpii: I remember I had a bios once that set ridiculously low values for temperatures, which changed some cpu usage policies meaning it only used one of my two cores, and that at only 1 gigaherz....try googeling your motherboard
[11:41] <whatvn> AdvoWork: pastebin output of .configure, please!
[11:41] <Guest_475> somebody know how to setup ubuntu client to join samba domain
[11:42] <whatvn> !samba
[11:42] <ManiDhillon> Is there a way to remove your key from ubuntu key server if you possess the original e-mail address attached to the key?
[11:42] <AdvoWork> whatvn, all it does is ask this question: -en Where is the linux source build directory [/lib/modules/2.6.24-23-generic/build]:  i left it <ENTER> and then it says Done!
[11:43] <whatvn> AdvoWork: which apps are you compiling?
[11:43] <Spike1506> i recently start to use evolution mail, previously i used thunderbird so i removed some evolution stuff from services and my session
[11:44] <Spike1506> but now it doesnt show a notification when a new mail arrives
[11:44] <Spike1506> altough its turned on in preferences
[11:44] <carpii> natschil, ok thanks for the advice. I hadnt thought about bios settings
[11:44] <AdvoWork> its logging software to record database entries etc, not ideally meant for that but thats the idea for now.
[11:44] <ManiDhillon> Is there a way to remove your key from ubuntu key server if you possess the original e-mail address attached to the key?
[11:45] <norpan111_> my session crash when compiz is activated and i resize firefox and start xchat, i get logged out
[11:45] <norpan111_> As soon as i do such thing
[11:45] <vorpatril> @#
[11:45] <natschil> carpii: might not be an actual bios setting, but a bug in the bios
[11:46] <carpii> oic
[11:46] <whatvn> AdvoWork: I don't have enough information to try to help
[11:46] <carpii> it seems specific to ubuntu though. I used to run windows xp without these problems
[11:47] <AdvoWork> whatvn,  nm.thanks for the help though. Is there any other loggin type software out there? keystroke wise for dumb logging, all output?
[11:47] <erUSUL> ManiDhillon: no; it is imposible to "delete" a gpg key from the servers... if you do not want to continue using it you have to revoke it
[11:48] <Spike1506> anyone knows howto restore those things? :)
[11:48] <whatvn> AdvoWork: some thing likes syslog?
[11:48] <whatvn> !syslog
[11:48] <owen1> i try to use logitech desktop mic with ubuntu. anyone have this mic and can tell if it's working with ubuntu?
[11:48] <ManiDhillon> erUSUL, but pgp keyserver has this option then why not ubuntu key server
[11:49] <norpan111_> Can u disable the black boarders/trace around when minimizing windows
[11:49] <norpan111_> ?
[11:49] <whatvn> AdvoWork: tell me exactly what you want to do?
[11:50] <erUSUL> ManiDhillon: never heard of that option... but the point still remains your key is "out in the wild" now many users may have it in their keyrings it could have benn upñoaded to other servers etc. the only way to invalidate it is to revoke it afaics
[11:50] <ManiDhillon> erUSUl, only two people has the key but they haven't synced it.
[11:51] <norpan111_>  Can u disable the black boarders/trace around when minimizing windows?
[11:51] <norpan111_> i dont use compiz
[11:52] <hoohaah> what's the best way to manually configure wireless connections so as to avoid network manager?
[11:52] <uSynx> I cannot get visudo to work, i added 'user ALL=NOPASSWD:/usr/local/bin/fixmtrr.sh' and it still asks for a password when i try and sudo it
[11:52] <erUSUL> ManiDhillon: if it is in the key server how do you know only two people has it ? anyway i can not help becouse i dunno how to do what you want (delete key from the server)
[11:52] <hoohaah> or at least, is there a way to manually configure (through conf files) gnome network manager?
[11:52] <erUSUL> hoohaah: man interfaces
[11:52] <norpan111_>  Can u disable the black boarders/trace around when minimizing windows? i dont use compiz
[11:52] <AdvoWork> whatvn, we need to log all keystrokes/everything for one certain pc on our network
[11:52] <ManiDhillon> erUSUL, thanks for your time sir!
[11:52] <erUSUL> ManiDhillon: no problem
[11:52] <raul_> join #ubuntu-es
[11:52] <hoohaah> erUSUL: I'm competent with the file while in Debian, but it appears Ubuntu won't accept similar stanzas or device descriptions
[11:53] <hoohaah> eg. something like auto wlan0
[11:53] <RizwanIkram> nano /etc/network/interfaces
[11:53] <hoohaah> only stanzas for lo0
[11:53] <norpan111_>  Can u disable the black boarders/trace around when minimizing windows? i dont use compiz
[11:53] <erUSUL> hoohaah: it should (but never triedi in recent ubuntu) work exactly the same way
[11:53] <whatvn> AdvoWork: splunk is right way to go. http://www.splunk.com/download?ac=adwords-syslog&_kk=syslog%20server&_kt=c1da46f2-6440-4436-a572-ab4adb0dc656&gclid=CKOatM-C_ZoCFZUvpAodrFStdA
[11:53] <hoohaah> erUSUL: I just tried in 9.04
[11:54] <hoohaah> essentially I'm trying to replicate http://pastebin.com/f21dcd154
[11:54] <hoohaah> which works on my debian config
[11:55] <hoohaah> i understand that udev requires a rule for the ra0 issue, but that'sreally a nobrainer
[11:55] <norpan111_>  Can u disable the black boarders/trace around when minimizing windows? i dont use compiz
[11:55] <hoohaah> and the pre-up,post-down stuff I can move to if-*/ dir hooks
[11:55] <hoohaah> it's basically the ethernet descriptor that isn't being recognised
[11:56] <erUSUL> hoohaah: you have the ra0 interface in ubuntu ?
[11:56] <hoohaah> there isn't much variance b/w ubuntu version and debian sid version of interfaces, so it leads me to believe that it's Ubuntu's automation that's interfering
[11:56] <uSynx> I cannot get visudo to work, i added 'user ALL=NOPASSWD:/usr/local/bin/fixmtrr.sh' and it still asks for a password when i try and sudo it
[11:56] <hoohaah> erUSUL: as i said, wlan0 doesn't work. ra0 I can generate with appropriate udev rule. no problem there
[11:57] <hoohaah> bah, i'll just remove gnome-network-manager
[11:58] <new> hi.. im new to ubuntu os.. anyone can point me to where i can help from?
[11:58] <coz_> new,   you can get help here :)
[11:58] <_ruben> http://help.ubuntu.com
[11:58] <Madsy> new: Here, and ubuntuforums.org
[11:58] <hoohaah> uSynx: what group is user in?
[11:59] <Madsy> The SEGA emulator dgen has been broken since 1.23-10. Anyone know of a workaround? The filed bug launchpad is pretty much a dead end.
[11:59] <new> thanks..
[11:59] <norpan111_>  Can u disable the black boarders/trace around when minimizing windows? i dont use compiz
[11:59] <Madsy> Launching a game ends with a SIGSEGV, but without debugging info I can't debug it either.
[11:59] <uSynx> hoohaah: user is in group user
[12:00] <hoohaah> uSynx: maybe add to sudo group?
[12:00] <hoohaah> uSynx: usermod -a -G sudo $USER
[12:01] <hoohaah> and re-login for effect
[12:01] <uSynx> hoohaah: will try thanks
[12:01] <hoohaah> Madsy: there's no dgen-dbg package?
[12:01] <norpan111_>  Can u disable the black boarders/trace around when minimizing windows? i dont use compiz.
[12:02] <hoohaah> Madsy: ah appears not
[12:04] <uSynx> hoohaah: score i didn't add the -a and have not removed my only account from sudo privs
[12:04] <uSynx> :(
[12:04] <hoohaah> uSynx: oops!
[12:04] <jimmyr> anyone using vmware fusion or ubuntu 9.03 on the new macbook pro?
[12:05] <hoohaah> uSynx: is this the admin user?
[12:05] <jimmyr> 9.04
[12:05] <Spike1506> evolution doesnt show a notification on a new message
[12:05] <Spike1506> altough its turned on in preferences
[12:05] <uSynx> hoohaah: yup the default ubuntu desktop user
[12:05] <Spike1506> howto fix that
[12:05] <uSynx> hoohaah: with no su access :(
[12:05] <uSynx> haha
[12:06] <hoohaah> what are you gonna do?
[12:06] <uSynx> hoohaah: any ideas on a way around? a re-install is not out of the question though as i just did a fresh install
[12:07] <norpan111_>  Can u disable the black boarders/trace around when minimizing windows? i dont use compiz
[12:07] <uSynx> strangely enough ive not been able to get sudoers to work on centos either
[12:07] <Guthur> i solved the keyring issue if anyone is interested :), the reason was that i had change the display manager to KDE's, changing back to GDM stopped ubuntu prompting for the keyring password
[12:08] <Guthur> i've grown attached to gnome though, KDE is a bit to 'busy' for me
[12:08] <rob_p> uSynx, If you haven't enabled the root account (best practice is to leave it disabled), then you will probably need to boot in single user mode and fix your user account from the single user root console.
[12:09] <hoohaah> uSynx: so what groups is user in now?
[12:09] <hoohaah> only sudo?
[12:09] <justin007> On my Ubuntu Jaunty, the command "git svn clone" command is freezing the system after some progress. Hard reboot is the only option, this behaviour was reproduced on my friends laptop.
[12:09] <mrvdv> whats better to use. ubuntu 9 or redhat 9
[12:09] <hoohaah> mrvdv: better answer lies in redhat irc channel
[12:09] <uSynx> hoohaah: see i didn't seen anything listed in /etc/passwd but i duno, its the default admin user for ubuntu desktop
[12:09] <bazhang> !ot > mrvdv
[12:10] <natschil> hello, does anyone know how do mount a pgpdisk file ( .pgd) under ubuntu?
[12:10] <rameshwor> i hope redhat if  you wanna be linux geek.
[12:10] <hoohaah> uSynx: groups
[12:10] <hoohaah> so you logged out and in, then?
[12:10] <uSynx> looks like both sudo and user
[12:10] <uSynx> strange
[12:10] <uSynx> when i try and sudo it says i dont have auto
[12:10] <mib_y0s4gc> i opened a screen session in a machine. how do i attach it to it from another machine
[12:10] <uSynx> err auth and will be logged
[12:10] <Guthur> justin007 git svn seems to work for me on jaunty
[12:11] <hoohaah> well you must've accidently replaced all supplimentary groups with sudo, right?
[12:11] <justin007> There's no log anywhere suggestion what causes this freeze, tried clonning with both wired and wireless. on different partitions, on to usb external drive. and on different computer.  "git svn clone" on jaunty freezes the computer
[12:11] <brabo> mib_y0s4gc Ctrl-a d to detach, screen -r to resaume
[12:11] <hoohaah> *supplementary
[12:11] <uSynx> hoohaah: yup
[12:11] <justin007> Guthur: have you tried clonning.
[12:11] <uSynx> hoohaah: as i didn
[12:11] <uSynx> err
[12:11] <Guthur> justin007 ya it was my first operation :)
[12:11] <uSynx> hoohaah: as i didn't use the -a switch
[12:11] <hoohaah> uSynx: can you still do any sudo actions?
[12:12] <uSynx> hoohaah: doesn't look like it
[12:12] <hoohaah> do have have a term somwhere where you're still logged in?
[12:12] <uSynx> hoohaah: nope
[12:12] <mib_y0s4gc> i get the followoing messages when i do it
[12:12] <Guthur> justin007 i not sure what the issue could be, it did just seem to work for me
[12:12] <mib_y0s4gc> screen -r There are screens on:         3210.tty6.newton        (Attached)         3315.pts-1.newton       (Attached) There is no screen to be resumed.
[12:12] <justin007> Guthur: i confirmed that git svn operations except "clone" is working, could reprodude on my friends system as well.  what was the size of the repo you clone.
[12:12]  * natschil hates pgpdisk
[12:12] <uSynx> hoohaah: i could do single user but i dont know what other groups i was susposed to belong to
[12:12] <uSynx> hoohaah: a reinstall is not that bad though so i may just do that
[12:12] <mib_y0s4gc> when i do ps ; i see screen process running
[12:12] <d22> hi all
[12:12] <Guthur> justin007 it was only about 6-7mb
[12:12] <brabo> mib_y0s4gc fist you need to detach the screen with ctrl-a d
[12:12] <hoohaah> uSynx: adm and admin, at least
[12:12] <hoohaah> uSynx: yeah, i was about to suggest emergency mode
[12:12] <hoohaah> vi /etc/group
[12:12] <brabo> mib_y0s4gc or you can connect with screen -x
[12:12] <rob_p> uSynx, In order to use sudo, you need to be in the admin group.  If you removed yourself from that group, you will need single user mode to fix it.
[12:13] <justin007> Guthur: that could be it.. my repo was around 32 MB.
[12:13] <Guthur> justin007 are you see any progress with the repo download
[12:13] <uSynx> rob_p: rgr thanks
[12:13] <hoohaah> uSynx: hangon I just did a fresh install too, I'll see which groups i'm in
[12:13] <uSynx> thanks
[12:13] <uSynx> rob_p: what do i need to do to init into single user?
[12:13] <hoohaah> uSynx: adm dialout cdrom plugdev lpadmin admin sambashare
[12:13] <MorbrorFultjack> is it possible to save /home when you have to install other os like win?
[12:13] <rob_p> uSynx, All you have to do is mak your user a member of admin and your user's group.
[12:13] <uSynx> sweet
[12:13] <justin007> yes.. there is.. it progresses to varying degress, but ultimately it freezes.
[12:13] <hoohaah> uSynx: at grub menu selection
[12:13] <uSynx> rgr
[12:13] <hoohaah> there should be an entry there
[12:13] <Guthur> justin007 i was using a remote repo, sourceforge svn, you could maybe try a small one for there, just to test
[12:14] <rob_p> uSynx, Those are the default groups the user belongs to.
[12:14] <justin007> Guthur: I reproduced consistently.
[12:14] <uSynx> rob_p: thanks
[12:14] <rob_p> uSynx, No need to re-install.
[12:14] <rob_p> :-)
[12:14] <hoohaah> question, I did a fresh install recently. The installer detected my windows partition, and _seemingly_ migrated user profiles to linux (I noticed cool scroll activity of copy progression from user paths in Windows)
[12:14] <Guthur> justin007 are you maybe trying to download to a protected file location?
[12:15] <hoohaah> where exactly are these profiles stored?
[12:15] <d22> maybe a stupid question, but anyway: if i pay for commercial support from cannonical, is the price of 750$ per server per year, or only per year for unlimited servers?
[12:15] <hoohaah> well, where are they saved too
[12:15] <hoohaah> *to
[12:15] <mib_y0s4gc> why i get only half the screen
[12:15] <justin007> Guthur: NO, I tried with different partitions, then onto USB disk(to rule out ext4) then with wired and wireless.. its consistent.
[12:15] <drcode> hi all
[12:15] <Guthur> this is the exact command i used ~$ git svn clone https://azure-is.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/azure-is azure-is
[12:15] <drcode> I try to load script at boot
[12:16] <justin007> Guthur: then I tried on my friends system and there too it frooze.. after some time before completing.
[12:16] <mib_y0s4gc> i need full screen at the other pc. i do screen -x pid
[12:16] <drcode> I place the script in /etc/rc5.d/S99Local
[12:16] <drcode> it dosn't seems to load?
[12:16] <Guthur> justin007 see my comment above i forgot to add you name
[12:16] <sheep73482_ipod> im trying to install ubuntu on a fresh hdd but it keeps crashing. what can i do?
[12:16] <Guthur> justin007 I am using Ext-4 as well
[12:16] <justin007> Guthur: ok, let me try that now.
[12:17] <Guthur> justin007 i hope it does freeze your system :p
[12:17] <justin007> Guthur: will try same command now.
[12:17] <Guthur> doesn't
[12:17] <brabo> mib_y0s4gc that's because it it still atached on another terminal.. that's why the format doesn't adapt, so detach the aother session first with ctrl-a d
[12:17] <sheep73482_ipod> hello?
[12:18] <mib_y0s4gc> brabo: i dont understand when you say that
[12:18] <uSynx> hoohaah: ok think i got it fixed haha
[12:18] <justin007> Guthur: it is progressing.
[12:18] <sheep73482_ipod> wait.. might work this time
[12:18] <mib_y0s4gc> the problem is i connect to a server. my telnet session keeps breaking because of network related issue. so i run a screen program in server and try to attach it to
[12:19] <Guthur> justin007 cool, is that further than it got before then? maybe its you repo that is suspect
[12:19] <AdvoWork> whatvn, ive installed that but cant see anything todo with keylogger?
[12:19] <Jyxt> anyone know whats going on with this acpid bug? i told ubuntu not to update the acpid, but everytime i install or do an update it attempts to upgrade acpid and bugs out
[12:19] <mib_y0s4gc> ii run screen in server. and screen -x in my client
[12:19] <uSynx> hoohaah: ok i can sudo now, but its still asking for a password for the script i put in sudoers
[12:19] <coldhead> does the release of jaunty mean that older versions like jaunty are now frozen and won't see non-security updates like firefox 3.5 ?
[12:19] <coldhead> older versions like intrepid*
[12:19] <justin007> Guthur: my repo could be the suspect, but will it kill my system?
[12:19] <justin007> Guthur: and that of my friend?
[12:20] <norpan111_>  Can u disable the black boarders/trace around when minimizing windows? i dont use compiz
[12:20] <justin007> Guthur: :-)
[12:20] <whatvn> AdvoWork: why keylogger is needed?
[12:20] <Guthur> justin007 thats not my project by the way, but i'm sure they wont mind, i'm not sure i only used it for the first time yesterday
[12:20] <pkkm> how to kill hung up X on virtual console accesible from Ctrl+Alt+F9 ?
[12:20] <carpii> norpan111_, maybe itd be better to say what you DO use?  gnome.kde etc ?
[12:20] <Guthur> justin007 it is worrying that it can kill your system though :|
[12:20] <coldhead> pkkm: sudo killall gdm
[12:20] <norpan111_> carpii:  i use gnome
[12:21] <carpii> pkkm, find the pid from 'ps aux' then kill -9 <pid>
[12:21] <rameshwor> anyone suggest a distro for me. ( but not mini distros ) 256 mb RAM  and  735 Mhz processor . please.....ubuntu 8.10 didn't run that good..  can i get it with xfce ? it can run well ???
[12:21] <justin007> Guthur: I thought so as well, and my friends as well.
[12:21] <norpan111_>  Can u disable the black boarders/trace around when minimizing windows? i use gnome without compiz
[12:21] <whatvn> AdvoWork: user information is not something sysadmin need to know
[12:21] <Jyxt> or why when im using gnome it wants to install this kde bug fix for acpid
[12:21] <coldhead> rameshwor: crunchbang!
[12:21] <drcode> any idea?
[12:21] <Guthur> justin007 you could try #git for answers
[12:21] <Jyxt> rameshwor look up xubuntu its the xfce version
[12:21] <rameshwor> what's that crunchbag ? distro ? ?
[12:22] <brabo> mib_y0s4gc on the server you issue in screen the key combination ctrl-a d  that detaches your session
[12:22] <brabo> the you do the same on client side and the on client side screen -r
[12:22] <justin007> Guthus: ok clonning is done.. so this repo is fine, to rule out the size of the repo my friend is clonning the Kde repo :-)
[12:22] <rameshwor> can i get canonical to ship me  xubuntu ?  ? my internt is not good downloading takes days
[12:22] <Guthur> justin007 its either a svn or git issue
[12:22] <d22> rameshwor: its crunshbaNg not bag
[12:22] <hoohaah> what's the difference between adm group and admin group anyway?
[12:22] <justin007> Guthur: ok clonning is done.. so this repo is fine, to rule out the size of the repo my friend is clonning the Kde repo :-)
[12:22] <coldhead> rameshwor: its a lightweight distro based on ubuntu. it would be perfect on your system
[12:22] <carpii> norpan, see the replies to http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/5075/
[12:22] <d22> rameshwor: http://crunchbanglinux.org/
[12:23] <uSynx> hoohaah: still a nogo on the sudoers stuff but sudo is working again
[12:23] <Guthur> justin007 #git are pretty helpful, they sorted a wee problem i had yesterday
[12:23] <Jyxt> rameshwor: or you could go with gentoo and install your own light weight wm like fluxbox
[12:23] <AdvoWork> whatvn, so splunk wont log keystrokes?
[12:23] <d22> maybe a stupid question, but anyway: if i pay for commercial support from cannonical, is the price of 750$ per server per year, or only per year for unlimited servers?
[12:23] <hoohaah> uSynx: did ya add yourself to sudo group again?
[12:23] <uSynx> hoohaah: yup
[12:23] <pkkm> coldhead: I don't want to kill all x'es. | carpii: what's the process name?
[12:23] <justin007> Guthur: am a little naive for #git I guess.
[12:24] <whatvn> AdvoWork: it will, if you setup a keylogger to send information to it
[12:24] <carpii> pkkm, i dont know. it should be obvious though. try passing -H to ps aux and itll show a hierarchy tree
[12:24] <uSynx> hoohaah: its still asking for a password though... proper sudoers is 'user ALL=NOPASSWD:/cmd' no?
[12:24] <whatvn> AdvoWork: I think keylogger is a client-side tool
[12:24] <Guthur> justin007 nah don't worry, it could have easily been a ubuntu issue too ;)
[12:24] <AdvoWork> whatvn, such as? cant find anything though
[12:25] <rameshwo> sorry guys, my internet is not so good so i frequently get disconnected..
[12:25] <hoohaah> uSynx: silly question, but what's the last line of sudoers
[12:25] <rameshwo> thanks for the one who suggested crunchbang....  based on ubuntu ...
[12:25] <hoohaah> uSynx: if it's (ALL) ALL, that overrides everything set in the file
[12:26] <rameshwo> or  ,      can i get any older distros of ubuntu ? how about that ??
[12:26] <whatvn> AdvoWork: I never use keylogger. so I dont have any idea. but if you decide to use keylogger, you must manually install it on every client computer
[12:26] <hoohaah> uSynx: yeah, that's the right syntax
[12:26] <uSynx> hoohaah: give me a sec ill check
[12:26] <hoohaah> uSynx: although I'm used to having %group instead of USER
[12:26] <justin007> Guthur: I think the difference could be an error message am getting before the clonning starts (apart from the size difference)
[12:26] <bazhang> rameshwo, ubuntu with lxde is very light
[12:26] <Guthur> justin007 what is the error?
[12:26] <whatvn> AdvoWork: and using keylogger means steal user information, which is never recommended by myself
[12:26] <rameshwo> bazhang thanks.....  i'll see it in google..
[12:27] <norpan111_>  Can u disable the black boarders/trace around when minimizing windows? i use gnome but not compiz
[12:27] <justin007> Guthur: W: Ignoring error from SVN, path probably does not exist: (160013): Filesystem has no item: '/svn/sw/!svn/bc/100/trunk/nms' path not found
[12:27] <hoohaah> bazhang: are there any tradeoffs? did you disable a majority of the gnome-dameons?
[12:27] <bazhang> rameshwo, sudo apt-get install lxde (once you have ubuntu installed)
[12:27] <pkkm> carpii: This: 'pawel     4217  0.0  0.2 191456  9808 ?        Ssl  13:16   0:00       x-session-manager' ?
[12:27] <norpan111_> Its the default if you disable compiz, see for yourself, its really ugly
[12:27] <hoohaah> *daemons
[12:27] <justin007> Guthur: W: Do not be alarmed at the above message git-svn is just searching aggressively for old history.
[12:27] <justin007> Guthur: those two lines but then it starts clonning is what I can see.
[12:27] <j^> is there a way to make the desktop more responsive while copying files? jaunty seams to be really bad at copying some files and doing anything else, like loading a webpage at the same time
[12:27] <rameshwo> bazhang:    MY INTERNET IS DIAL_UP  .  IT TAKES ME  HOURS N HOURS..
[12:28] <AdvoWork> whatvn, its needed for the company, with full director permission, ui just cant find anything
[12:28]  * hoohaah covers his ears
[12:28] <zetheroo> ﻿is there a support channel for WINE?
[12:28] <bazhang> rameshwo, get a disk from shipit then and install lxde after
[12:28] <norpan111_> zetheroo:  google
[12:28] <uSynx> hoohaah: yup last line is %admin ALL=(ALL) ALL so i need to put my ish after that no?
[12:28] <hoohaah> zetheroo: #winehq
[12:28] <coldhead> rameshwo: try getting crunchbang via bittorrent. its just a single cd iso
[12:28] <brabo> ramesho get DSL (dhamn small linux) it's only 50 mb afaik
[12:28] <bazhang> hoohaah, not sure about gnome-dameons
[12:28] <bazhang> err daemons
[12:28] <zetheroo> ﻿hoohaah: thank you
[12:28] <hoohaah> uSynx: yeah
[12:28] <norpan111_> Can anyone help me with this one?
[12:28] <whatvn> AdvoWork: sorry, in this case...I cannot help
[12:28] <rameshwo> can i get shipit  to ship me ubuntu without gnome,    . with lxde or  xfce ???
[12:29] <coldhead> shipit takes 5 years
[12:29] <Guthur> justin007 there is possibly some corruption, the #git guys should definitely have more info on something like that, i've only started using it recently so not much experience of possible problems, there is 500+ in that channel so someone is likely to have the knowledge, they are reasonably friendly too :)
[12:29] <norpan111_> I try to disable this ugly black borders that traces a window when minimized if compiz is disabled
[12:29] <hoohaah> uSynx: actually I'm not too sure with that one :) I've never tried it
[12:29] <hoohaah> uSynx: it might work
[12:29] <bazhang> rameshwo, let me check that
[12:29] <uSynx> hoohaah: ill let you know trying it now
[12:29] <rameshwo> no.. i got it in 3 weeks. i'm from nepal..
[12:29] <uSynx> hoohaah: ill bet thats why i cant get it to work in centos either
[12:29] <brabo> ramesho or download debien netinst cd , it's only 150 MB or so..
[12:29] <hoohaah> zetheroo: yw
[12:29] <norpan111_> yay
[12:29] <hoohaah> uSynx: heh
[12:29] <bazhang> rameshwo, just Ubuntu and Kubuntu afaik; installing lxde is very fast though
[12:30] <d22> maybe a stupid question, but anyway: if i pay for commercial support from cannonical, is the price of 750$ per server per year, or only per year for unlimited servers?
[12:30] <rameshwo> ok i'll try it....thanks bazhang
[12:30] <bazhang> rameshwo, there is also the minimal installer (9mbs) iso
[12:30] <justin007> Guthur: allright.. let me try there. because apart from these two warning (I guess) there's no other difference. and just now my friend reproduced once again. and Kde svn repo clonning is progressing without issues. so it has to be this
[12:30] <bazhang> !minimal | rameshwo
[12:31] <Guthur> justin007 sounds like svn corruption alright
[12:31] <uSynx> hoohaah: well done!! thanks much that fixed it
[12:31] <hoohaah> uSynx: glad to hear it ;)
[12:31] <[Crussd2]> hi all ;)
[12:31]  * [Crussd2] nice to know you :)
[12:31] <coldhead> is there a linux program to spray desktop.ini files all through my filesystem like in windows?
[12:31] <hoohaah> uSynx: at least now you've familiarized yourself with options for that other command :)
[12:31] <norpan111_> My computer seems to run more faster and responsive with "extra" desktop effects
[12:31] <justin007> Guthur: yes.. but svn is working fine against this repo, no issues I have been working with svn and the repo for almost 3 years now.  wanted to learn git and thats when I get this
[12:31] <norpan111_> I dont want the wobble windows etc
[12:32] <hoohaah> coldhead: skeleton files
[12:32] <norpan111_> But i still want my computer to run pretty fast :P
[12:32] <uSynx> hoohaah: now i just need to fix this f'ing horrible video shutter on my aspire one and ill be good to go
[12:32] <norpan111_> What can be causing this?
[12:32] <[Crussd2]> !ping
[12:32] <uSynx> hoohaah: ya i wont be not using the -a switch again
[12:32] <uSynx> ;)
[12:32] <jrib> norpan111_: you mind?  :)
[12:32] <uSynx> wont not
[12:32] <jrib> your*
[12:32] <norpan111_> jrib yeah i really dont like the wobble windows :P
[12:32] <jrib> norpan111_: you can keep effects and disable the wobbly windows if you wish
[12:32] <jrib> !ccsm | norpan111_
[12:33] <Guthur> justin007 well if you get a definite answer i would actually be interested in knowing it, if that is ok
[12:33] <norpan111_> uh..
[12:33] <justin007> Guthur: for sure.
[12:33] <hoohaah> coldhead: /etc/skel
[12:33] <gartral> How do I associate a SSH key with another account without knowing it's password?
[12:34] <[Crussd2]> hy all, can you tell me about installing GfxBoot on jaunty?
[12:34] <hoohaah> gartral: what do you mean?
[12:34] <jrib> gartral: in what context?
[12:34] <coldhead> thanks hoohaah!
[12:34] <hoohaah> np
[12:34] <[Crussd2]> how do i installing GfxBoot On jaunty??
[12:35] <brabo> mib_y0s4gc got it working now?
[12:35] <d22> gartral: you need access to the target host in some way... password or key...
[12:36] <gartral> hoohaah: I can only log into my account on my server.. I want to give other acounts on there the ability to use their own key... but how do i make the server allow them to use a key that I generated
[12:36] <hoohaah> uSynx: can you do me a favor, and create a new user for the desktop? I'm in front of my ubuntu machine right now (and it's offline) and I need to figure out default groups for users
[12:36] <hoohaah> uSynx: (non-admin types)
[12:36] <[Crussd2]> hy all, can you tell me about installing GfxBoot on jaunty?
[12:37] <hoohaah> uSynx: err, I'm not in front of my machine...
[12:37] <Titan8990> hoohaah, i was guess "users" and "audio"
[12:37] <hoohaah> that would make more sense, right? :)
[12:37] <grawity> gartral: If you don't have root access (root or sudo), then you cannot modify other users' login information in any way.
[12:37] <norpan111_> jrib thanks
[12:37] <hoohaah> Titan8990: what about all the plugdev stuff?
[12:37] <sheep30945> how do you find the mac address?
[12:37] <norpan111_> i die now please bye
[12:37] <hoohaah> sheep30945: of which interface?
[12:37] <Titan8990> hoohaah, plugdev is common for other distros but not so sure in buntu
[12:37] <gartral> grawity: ... aussume I am a sudoer...
[12:37] <sheep30945> whatever is default
[12:38] <[Crussd2]> sheep30945: type ifconfig
[12:38] <[Crussd2]> :)
[12:38] <sheep30945> i'll see if i can find the shell whatsit
[12:38] <grawity> gartral: and you do know about authorized_keys?
[12:38] <gartral> grawity: right, I do, but I'm not sure how to give another account access to my machine..
[12:39] <hoohaah> gartral: grawity mentioned the file needed
[12:39] <grawity> gartral: Can you explain what exactly you need?
[12:39] <hoohaah> gartral: though it's better to create a chroot jail for that new user
[12:39] <brabo> hoohaah i'm on debian lenny but have plugdev too
[12:39] <grawity> gartral: Like, allow user B to login using his own account to your machine?
[12:40] <gartral> grawity: I have 3 accounts on my computer... I want to make it so all account need, and have, there OWN key, instead of using a single key like now
[12:40] <hoohaah> brabo: yeah, I'm on squeeze atm
[12:40] <brabo> hoohah: want all my default groups?
[12:40] <hoohaah> gartral: for each account, ssh-keygen
[12:40] <rob_p> hoohaah, In Ubuntu, at least 8.04, the user belongs to only the user's group, unless it is the first user, which is also in group admin.  That seems to be the default here on my 8.04 box.
[12:40] <grawity> gartral: ...so just create keys with ssh-keygen and add to authorized_keys if needed
[12:41] <gartral> hoohaah: right, but I can't log in to those accounts... how doi i do that from mine with sudo
[12:41] <hoohaah> gartral: you can use ssh-keygen to create specifically-named keys
[12:41] <grawity> gartral: sudo -u anotheruser -i
[12:41] <hoohaah> gartral: rather than the default ~/.ssh/ ...
[12:42] <gartral> grawity: won't i need there password?
[12:42] <gartral> their*
[12:42] <grawity> gartral: sudo always asks for _your_ password.
[12:42] <grawity> gartral: you probably were thinking of 'su', which does ask the victim's password.
[12:43] <hoohaah> rob_p: yeah, I'm not too clear on the nomenclature
[12:43] <hoohaah> for instance, what's the difference b/w admin and adm groups?
[12:44] <hoohaah> they're deceptively similar
[12:44] <d22> maybe a stupid question, but anyway: if i pay for commercial support from cannonical, is the price of 750$ per server per year, or only per year for unlimited servers?
[12:44] <jrib> d22: ask canonical
[12:44] <gartral> grawity: /usr/bin/ssh-keygen: cannot execute binary file
[12:44] <hoohaah> d22: email canonical
[12:44] <grawity> gartral: that's a strange one, can you do: ls -l /usr/bin/ssh-keygen
[12:45] <hoohaah> weird, it should be a+rx
[12:45] <gartral> grawity: 830215 /usr/bin/ssh-keygen
[12:45] <hoohaah> the entire line
[12:45] <grawity> gartral: That's all? :o
[12:46] <gartral> let me get infront of that box, one moment
[12:46] <hoohaah> hehe, lazy typists
[12:46] <grawity> gartral: 'ls -la /usr/bin/ssh-keygen' should print something like this: -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 145736 Jan 14 03:07 /usr/bin/ssh-keygen
[12:46] <norpan111> How can i get this nice big digitalclock i see everyone has?
[12:46] <norpan111> Conky and gdesklets?
[12:47] <SandGorgon> does Ubuntu 64 bit perform better on a core2 duo than a 32 bit version ?
[12:47] <The_warlock> which is the best terminal emulator for linux?
[12:47] <The_warlock> new to linux...need some help
[12:47] <gartral> grawity: ok, infront of my computer now let me rerun ls -i /usr/bin/ssh-keygen
[12:47] <grawity> The_warlock: like, gnome-terminal and xterm and such things?
[12:48] <gartral> ls -i  /usr/bin/ssh-keygen
[12:48] <SandGorgon> The_warlock, i would say urxvt - tabbed windows, configurable profiles, etc.
[12:48] <grawity> gartral: ls -l <--- that's a lowercase L
[12:48] <hoohaah> The_warlock: pretty subjective. if you need locale support, not all support it
[12:48] <The_warlock> grawity: yes...i find that the fonts on gnome are not sharp enough
[12:48] <SandGorgon> and independent of gnome or kde
[12:48] <brabo> The_warlock i use aterm, it has neat features ^^
[12:48]  * gartral facedesks
[12:48] <grawity> The_warlock: Then just change the system's font settings -- see Appearance -- or choose a different font in gnometerminal
[12:49] <hoohaah> The_warlock: use a bitmap font
[12:49] <norpan111> How can i get this big digitalclock and date on my desktop?
[12:49] <The_warlock> i googled about aterm...i knida liked it...i wonder if i can make it my default terminal and have an icon for it?
[12:49] <norpan111> Ive seen some screenshots and its beautiful!
[12:49] <gartral> grawity: -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 125648 2009-01-28 16:01 /usr/bin/ssh-keygen
[12:49] <norpan111> Please private msg me!
[12:49] <matrixblue> morning
[12:49] <[Crussd2]> screenleets
[12:49] <grawity> The_warlock: There is no "default terminal" -- you just use the one you choose.
[12:49] <hoohaah> The_warlock: you can use an icon from almost anywhere
[12:49] <grawity> The_warlock: As for an icon, simply make one
[12:49] <brabo> yes you can The_warlock , but you can also use a key combo to launch it
[12:50] <[Crussd2]> norpan111: using Screenleets
[12:50] <norpan111> crussd
[12:50] <dani_> Hello, I have serious MSN problems. Very often when I send a message, get my message in return with a notice that "The following message could not be delivered". Its really annoying. I am on wireless lan, signal is 90%.
[12:50] <gartral> The_warlock: I have my system setup to launch a terminal on ctrl+~
[12:50] <norpan111> OMG
[12:50] <Natanaiel>  I have vlc media player, I can see images for mp4 files but I can't hear it's sound. how can I hear sound of mp4 files?
[12:51] <gartral> Natanaiel: can you hear sound at all from vlc?
[12:51] <Natanaiel> gartral: yes
[12:51] <norpan111> Where can i find this "screenlets" ?
[12:51] <Natanaiel> gartral: I only have this problem with mp4 files
[12:52] <gartral> Natanaiel: then you probably need other codecs, though im not sure *what* codecs
[12:52] <Titan8990> norpan111, search for it synaptic
[12:52] <Titan8990> gartral, VLC has basically all codecs otb
[12:52] <turneralex> heyheyhey
[12:53] <gartral> Titan8990: yea, but it doesn't include "restricted" formats, if i remember correctly
[12:53] <Titan8990> gartral, yes it does
[12:53] <norpan111> Titan8990:  well how do i start screenlets?
[12:53] <turneralex> I'm trying to install ubuntu sparc on a sun v880 and the installer is hanging when its looking for the drivesss. any ideas?
[12:53] <Titan8990> gartral, on windows and linux i personally have not found a media format vlc won't play
[12:54] <Titan8990> gartral, which is why ubuntu does not ship with vlc, for legal reasons
[12:54] <gartral> Titan8990: after i compiled my own Mplayer, I haven't found use for VLC outside of streaming media over the network
[12:55] <gartral> grawity: still with us?
[12:55] <grawity> ?
[12:56] <dani_> Hello, I have serious MSN problems. Very often when I send a message, get my message in return with a notice that "The following message could not be delivered". Its really annoying. I am on wireless lan, signal is 90%.
[12:57] <gartral> grawity: -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 125648 2009-01-28 16:01 /usr/bin/ssh-keygen
[12:58] <uSynx> anyone running UNR on a aspire one?
[12:58] <sheep30945> you're funking joking me. a linux distro actually managed to connect to my router wirelessly. and without installing any extra drivers shockingly
[12:59] <Ojii> hi, everyone here know how to get SCIM to work?
[12:59] <sheep30945> my respect in linux has been restored
[13:00] <Titan8990> sheep30945, you know, you could have just bought compatible hardware in the first place....
[13:00] <Ojii> is there any alternative to **** SCIM?
[13:00] <celal> selam
[13:00] <sheep30945> Titan8990: some people haven't got the money to pick and choose
[13:00] <norpan111> Titan8990:  but the once ive seen on theyr screen is CONKY, what is that?
[13:00] <celal> merhaba
[13:01] <norpan111> conky i cant see how to configure conky to be on my desktop like that
[13:01] <ruadh> How do I start xchat in ubuntu server 9.04?
[13:01] <Titan8990> norpan111, conky is a highly configurable system monitor
[13:01] <Pici> !tr | celal
[13:01] <Titan8990> norpan111, not associated with gnome screenlets
[13:01] <norpan111> Titan8990:  i just get a little window that i can close... dont see any config or anything
[13:01] <Pici> ruadh: Ubuntu Server has no graphical interface by default, thus it cannot run xchat.
[13:01] <SandGorgon> the other day, i installed Debris Linux - an ubuntu flavor (just 185 mb!) with the latest kernel and Hardy's packages - was really great!
[13:02] <celal> ubuntu tr??
[13:02] <Titan8990> norpan111, conky is an old school linux thing
[13:02] <Pici> celal: /join #ubuntu-tr
[13:02] <Titan8990> norpan111, its not configured via GUI
[13:02] <norpan111> Titan8990:  cant find it..
[13:02] <ruadh> Pici, Can you recommend an irc app for the server?#
[13:03] <Titan8990> norpan111, because I just told you its not there
[13:03] <Titan8990> norpan111, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6365702
[13:03] <norpan111> Oh
[13:03] <norpan111> sorry
[13:03] <Pici> ruadh: irssi is a good command line client.
[13:03] <saif> please how can i defini an ather system for downloading ather than fire fox down loader
[13:03] <Ojii> I never get the input toolbar in SCIM no matter what I try (even if I set it to 'always display'), what am I doing wrong? Really need help on this!
[13:03] <ruadh> Pici, thanks
[13:03] <Titan8990> norpan111, that guide should work for you
[13:03] <Titan8990> norpan111, just a bit of copy and paste into config files
[13:04] <norpan111> Titan8990:  i ll just leave it
[13:04] <alhanoglu> slm
[13:04] <norpan111> :P
[13:04] <alhanoglu> celal
[13:04] <alhanoglu> celallll
[13:04] <norpan111> Its all good
[13:04] <alhanoglu> iyi good
[13:04] <Pici> !tr | alhanoglu
[13:05] <alhanoglu> tşk edrim
[13:05] <Ojii> anyone? I try to get help on that for a week now and got nothing...
[13:05] <hoohaah> any of you able to get paltalk running under wine?
[13:05] <[Crussd2]> !id
[13:05] <sheep30945> ubuntu wouldn't install if i didn't keep moving the mouse around. if i didn't i think the hard drive turned off
[13:06] <hoohaah> sheep30945: cdrom, maybe
[13:06] <sheep30945> yeh maybe. but the screen went black
[13:07] <gartral> grawity: I take it your busy?
[13:07] <rameshwo> hello all..   is there  shipping facility of Xubuntu ???
[13:07] <[Crussd2]> !ping
[13:08] <supersasho> hi.. sometimes in arecord -l i don't have listed my usb webcam microphone, any idea why? it can be "repaired" by rebooting, but this is an anoying solution
[13:08] <rameshwo> ???
[13:09] <gartral> rameshwo: if you mean shipit, try shipit.xubuntu.com if that doesnt exist, then no, they stoped freely shipping Xubuntu
[13:09] <rameshwo> gartral  :  ok....
[13:09] <gartral> s// stoped/stopped
[13:09] <d22> maybe a stupid question, but anyway: if i pay for commercial support from cannonical, is the price of 750$ per server per year, or only per year for unlimited servers?
[13:10] <hoohaah> sheep30945: that's just power saving, or dpms
[13:10] <pSY-cl0Ne> hi, wondering if any one can point me inthe right direction for configuring internet connection with mobile phone via USB
[13:10] <hoohaah> or a 'blank' sent to the monitor
[13:10] <cyphase> dear lazyweb.. what's a simple way of sharing files with someone over the internet? meaning, i can share certain folders, and this person can access them.. it would be even nicer if this person could just access my samba shares, without me making them available to everyone
[13:11] <rameshwo> should i learn command line if i wanna be a good linux user ?/ is it compulsion??
[13:11] <alberto2000> what is the best way to change the boot logo / progress bar in jaunty?
[13:11] <pkkm> rameshwo: I think you should learn some basics
[13:12] <hoohaah> rameshwo: no, it's not compulsory, but you'll find that you can do a lot of things faster if you learn to script well
[13:12] <rameshwo> just baic , file handlers ,,  is shell scripting ,  administrative tools. required ??
[13:12] <rameshwo> ok...
[13:12] <hoohaah> relegate repetitive tasks to scripts (optionally) run through cron jobs
[13:12] <pkkm> rameshwo: 'Tutorials - very simple: http://linux.org.mt/article/terminal/ - simple: http://linuxcommand.org/ - advanced: http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/'
[13:13] <zealiod> i'd like to use shell script to either start or restart a service based on its current status - how can i do this?
[13:13] <rameshwo> bye guys...
[13:13] <hoohaah> rameshwo: well, if Xorg is borked with an ubuntu update (which has certainly happened in the past,) at least you'll be able to make do with console-alternatives
[13:13] <gartral> grawity: I'm still having trouble... it's saying the -u and -i flags may not be used together
[13:13] <hoohaah> rameshwo: and, for me, some gui apps simply cannot compare to console alternatives
[13:13] <rameshwo> thank you guys , ok bye
[13:14] <grawity> gartral: hmm, sudo -u someone -i has _always_ worked for me
[13:14] <rameshwo> ok hoohaah...  so CLI  is powerufl....
[13:14] <mahiti-irc> hello
[13:14] <rameshwo> sorry powerful
[13:14] <cyphase> hoohaah: let's hope no user ever needs to know the console to fix a borked Xorg :)
[13:14] <gartral> grawity: i tryed l >.>
[13:14] <hoohaah> rameshwo: very
[13:14] <mahiti-irc> i am using ubuntu 8.10 server
[13:14] <rameshwo> guys i'll try to be back in 1 hour.... ok bye
[13:14] <hoohaah> cyphase: oh man. it was front page news IIRC when it happened to ubuntu many moons ago
[13:14] <grawity> gartral: heh, choose a new font?
[13:14] <rameshwo> you all guys are great...
[13:14] <duchman> hi guys
[13:15] <gartral> still says I can not execute that file... is it because the user i'm trying to run isn't a sudoer?
[13:15] <mahiti-irc> and  i am getting GPG error for intrepid-security and interpid updates
[13:15] <duchman> how do i get to irc://timothyb89.homelinux.org
[13:15] <cyphase> hoohaah: yea, i remember.. luckily i didnt get hit by it
[13:15] <mahiti-irc> was working until today morning
[13:15] <Synegami> коллеги, киньте ТОЛКОВОЙ ссылочкой  по конфигурации SQUID с NTLM авторизацией. Может у кого нить что нить ест в закладках по этому поводу, а то ниче свежее 2005 года найти не получилось в гугле :(
[13:15] <mahiti-irc> can i anyone assist me on that?
[13:15] <duchman> or  http://timothyb89.homelinux.org
[13:16] <dupondje> packages site down since this morning ? :s
[13:16] <hoohaah> gartral: i seriously doubt it, but did you accidentally mount /usr noexec?
[13:16] <Pici> !ru | Synegami
[13:16] <hoohaah> or /usr/local, whichever
[13:16] <mahiti-irc>  i am getting GPG error for intrepid-security and interpid updates
[13:17] <mahiti-irc> is there any issues with ubuntu reposirtories
[13:17] <elky> mahiti-irc, you've refreshed your sources lists?
[13:17] <gartral> hoohaah: no, I'm quite sure I didn't. But what's the command to tell, mount -l?
[13:17] <duchman> irc://timothyb89.homelinux.org/#jtelirc
[13:17] <mahiti-irc> elky, how do i do that?
[13:18] <Pici> duchman: Please don't advertise here.
[13:18] <duchman> sorry
[13:18] <elky> mahiti-irc, in synaptic it's the 'reload' button
[13:18] <Ojii> can anyone please please help me with SCIM? been trying for ages to get help here now but i just get bluntly ignored! followed the guides I found but ctrl+space does nothing!
[13:18] <duchman> just need help getting to that link
[13:19] <Gourlis> Do we need a Security for Ubuntu? As on Windows eg. Antivirus
[13:19] <mahiti-irc> elky, its a server man
[13:19] <gartral> hoohaah: nvm, mount worked by itself, and n, I don't see /usr/noexec
[13:19] <elky> mahiti-irc, sudo apt-get update then
[13:19] <mahiti-irc> elky, anyways i ran apt-get update
[13:19] <jl> Does anyone know how to remove the package on the Ubuntu Remix that expands all windows to maximum size?
[13:19] <mahiti-irc> elky, it only gave the GPG error
[13:20] <elky> mahiti-irc, please put your sources.list on a pastebin and give us the url
[13:20] <indus> Gourlis: no
[13:20] <Gourlis> indus, good. I wanted to be sure.
[13:20] <cankoy> Gourlis: so you think Ubuntu is not secure?
[13:21] <indus> Gourlis: but firewalls can be set if u want
[13:21] <indus> Gourlis: but frankly unless you are a spy or work for the government, who wants to acess your pc anyway :P
[13:21] <mahiti-irc> elky, ok one sec
[13:21] <Gourlis> lol indus :P
[13:21] <gartral> hoohaah: I would really like to assign the other accounts on my computer keys for ssh... but it seems i'm going to have to ask them to comprimise their security to do so...
[13:23] <grawity> gartral: just sudo to their account, and add the key -_-
[13:23] <Gourlis> cankoy, I know Linux/Ubuntu are secure but I wanted to be sure 101% that am safe via browser surfing.
[13:24] <gartral> grawity: its saying command not found too user <username> and its saying i need more options for sudo -u <username>
[13:24] <gartral> grawity: its saying command not found too sudo <username> and its saying i need more options for sudo -u <username>
[13:25] <cankoy> Gourlis: that depends on the browser, and linux does not have IE :-)
[13:25] <grawity> gartral: sudo -u username -i <---- "sudo", space, dash, lowercase U, space, victim's username, space, dash, lowercase I
[13:26] <Titan8990> Gourlis, biggest worry is your standard tracking cookies
[13:26] <hoohaah> gartral: howabout you provide them with detailed instructions on how to set up their own keys
[13:26] <hoohaah> gartral: get their hands dirty
[13:26] <grawity> hoohaah: ++
[13:26] <Gourlis> Titan8990, I never keep cookies :D
[13:26] <Gourlis> everywhere
[13:26] <AceKing> Anyone know of a good webcam program that detects motion? I tried "Motion" but it's real hard to use
[13:27] <gartral> grawity: I keep trying that string, and it says i cannot execute the command, and hoohaah my system is already set up so you *need* a key from the outside..
[13:27] <cyphase> does anyone know of a way to disable sftp access on an ssh server?
[13:27] <indus> baah too much paranoia over tracking cookies, they dont do anything
[13:27] <racecar56> i made an ubuntu live cd remaster and it dosen't have a user to log in to (using xdm), how do i edit my remaster to add an account called 'live' on startup of the live cd? and also how to make it log in automatically
[13:27] <cyphase> for a specific user only i should say
[13:27] <mahiti-irc> elky, here it is http://pastebin.com/m76b0003c
[13:28] <indus> #scribus
[13:28] <indus> oops
[13:29] <Gourlis> Ubuntu 8.10 + Mac4Lin works great. Anyone found a good theme for Firefox as Mac?
[13:30] <Trentor> Does anyone know a good small program that will delete hard drive data with the gutmanm method or the DoD standard for linux and/or windows?
[13:30] <elky> mahiti-irc, can you also pastebin the exact error you're getting?
[13:30] <mahiti-irc> ok
[13:30] <Dr_Willis> Gourlis:  check the firefox extenesions/themes page. Theres bound tobe several of the ugly things. :)
[13:30] <Trentor> Specifically ubuntu obviously
[13:30] <NetEcho> Gourlis: Safari theme
[13:30] <hoohaah> gartral: I mentioned earlier to generate 3 separate keypairs (distinguished by name) and then sudo cp .pub to $USER/.ssh/authorized_keys
[13:30] <mahiti-irc> elky, here it is http://pastebin.com/m19f4bcc
[13:31] <hoohaah> gartral: how have you fared there?
[13:31] <Dr_Willis> !info secure-delete
[13:31] <Gourlis> Dr_Willis, yeah I saw there, nothing good ;p only Chromifox
[13:31] <Dr_Willis> Gourlis:  thats whaat i use. I hate OS-X themes.. I find chromifox very useable.
[13:31] <Gourlis> NetEcho, Safari theme buttons aren't so good on me, I see blue green red etc buttons. Different than in pictures.
[13:32] <hoohaah> gartral: do grawity a favor, and record the session
[13:32] <NetEcho> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/6704
[13:32] <gartral> grawity: http://gar.pastebin.com/d534bc3ebhttp://gar.pastebin.com/d534bc3eb
[13:32] <hoohaah> gartral: ie. script
[13:32] <Gourlis> Dr_Willis, Chromifox it's the best for me :D u have chrome and firefox in 1 browser hahaahah
[13:32] <gartral> hoohaah: what session?
[13:32] <NetEcho> Gourlis: I helped get the Mac4Lin project going with extensive testing in the early versions heh
[13:32] <hoohaah> gartral: for you, at commandline
[13:32] <gartral> hoohaah: i didn't catch what you said earlier
[13:32] <hoohaah> so that we can see exactly what you've tried
[13:33] <Gourlis> NetEcho, Mac4Lin the latest version is very good theme. :)
[13:33] <gartral> hoohaah: how do i do that?
[13:33] <hoohaah> gartral: script ~/logfile
[13:33] <NetEcho> Gourlis I miss the icons he removed for legal purposes
[13:33] <gartral> hoohaah: will that log everything iv'e done in that terminal so far?
[13:33] <Gourlis> NetEcho, before it was more wonderful ?
[13:34] <hoohaah> gartral: do what you need to do, then EOF (C-d) to end session
[13:34] <hoohaah> gartral: no, only what you've done since calling script
[13:34] <hoohaah> gartral: then paste ~/logfile for all
[13:34] <NetEcho> Gourlis I had it running at one point that it was nearly indistinguishable from OSX
[13:34] <gartral> hoohaah: you've *complrtly* lost me now
[13:34] <NetEcho> then I got bored and installed OSX
[13:34] <gartral> completly
[13:34] <hoohaah> :/
[13:34] <rob_p> cyphase, Does the user still need to be able to ssh in to the server in question?
[13:34] <NetEcho> anyway I gotta run
[13:34] <hoohaah> gartral: how did I lose you?\
[13:34] <Gourlis> NetEcho, I'll go to see OSX. brb :D
[13:35] <elky> mahiti-irc, i dont see the error. it might be cached in a proxy somewhere or something like that. usually when it happens you just need to wait a bit and try again
[13:35] <Ojii> can anyone help with getting scim to work???
[13:35] <gartral> with the script-speak
[13:35] <mahiti-irc> oh
[13:35] <cyphase> rob_p: ssh in, but no shell.. i 'disabled' the shell by replacing bash with cat.. my goal is to have it just do port forwarding
[13:35] <mahiti-irc> elky,oh ok, does this mean the repositories are being updated?
[13:35] <hoohaah> gartral: grawity's instructions are sane. They work for me. So it's something you're keying in differently on your end
[13:35] <terry> dsdds
[13:35] <elky> mahiti-irc, it could
[13:36] <rob_p> cyphase, Then change the user's shell to, "/bin/false" and that should take care of it.
[13:36] <hoohaah> gartral: we can't see it as you've probably missed it too
[13:36] <hoohaah> gartral: so use script or soemthing to record terminal session
[13:36] <grawity> cyphase: replacing bash with cat is _not_ a good way to disable logins (as he can still use SFTP).
[13:36] <sonne> I want to assign a folder to each user on my samba server. How should I do it?
[13:36] <Dr_Willis> changing the shell to 'cat' is 'weird' :)
[13:36] <linuxnub> fast question, does anyone know how to install americas army?
[13:36] <hoohaah> /bin/false
[13:36] <cyphase> grawity: i dont want to disable logins.. i want port forwarding to work.. and i know they can still use sftp, thats my pint in asking the question
[13:36] <Dr_Willis> linuxnub:  last i checked that game for linux was rather out of date.. Not sure if the Linux version has been updated recently.
[13:37] <cyphase> rob_p: i've tried that.. won't that just close the session? i want it open for port forwarding
[13:37] <grawity> Ah
[13:37] <monra> Hello. I had removed gdm GNOME window manager and installed another window manager. After that the sound of my computer doesn't work, and programs like alsamixer also don't work. Does anyboyne have an idea of what program was removed(with gdm), to intall it again so that I can have sound again?
[13:37] <Dr_Willis> !games > linuxnub
[13:37] <Ojii> can anyone help with getting scim to work???
[13:37] <linuxnub> thanks both was reading pm
[13:38] <rob_p> cyphase, That disables interactive login shell for the user.  Works to also keep them from using sftp.
[13:38] <gartral> hoohaah: the logfile is *empty* after ctrl-c`ing
[13:38] <hoohaah> control-d
[13:38] <linuxnub> yeah its outa date 2 versions behind now so nvm it will be deleted
[13:38] <mahiti-irc> elky, thanks
[13:38] <rob_p> cyphase, Explain the port forwarding bit.  What are you trying to do?
[13:38] <gartral> oops
[13:38] <zipito_> good day
[13:38] <sonne> I've got a samba question. Can anyone help?
[13:38] <zipito_> is there  jetty6 for Ubuntu 9.04 ?
[13:39] <cyphase> rob_p: well, you know how you can use ssh to do port tunneling*.. forwarding might have been the wrong word.. i want the user to be able to do tunneling
[13:39] <cyphase> rob_p: just not shell or sftp
[13:39] <rob_p> cyphase, I see.  That complicates things...
[13:39] <nickj> I am using Ubuntu 8.04, and want to upgrade gcc from 4.2.3 to 4.3.2, but there's nothing about the gcc 4.3.2 in the synaptic, anyone can help me out
[13:39] <gartral> hoohaah grawity http://gar.pastebin.com/f634b2b29
[13:39] <Regral> having this issue can anyone help
[13:39] <Regral> W: GPG error: http://packages.medibuntu.org jaunty Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 2EBC26B60C5A2783
[13:40] <Guest48110> hi, i'm trying to upgrade intrepid->jaunty but update-manager complains about not finding pygtk module
[13:40] <mahiti-irc> elky, one GPG error got ok. the ubuntu-security is still giving while ubuntu-updates works :)P
[13:40] <pkkm> What is wrong with my code: http://paste.ubuntu.com/191619/ ?
[13:40] <Guest48110> is that a known problem ?
[13:40] <elky> mahiti-irc, good to hear
[13:40] <hoohaah> gartral: urgh. are those color escape sequences?
[13:40] <racecar56> how do i make my ubuntu remaster live cd have a user so i can log in?
[13:41] <Dr_Willis> !remaster
[13:41] <eBug> can i upgrade just with apt-get dist-upgrade?
[13:41] <Ojii> can anyone help with getting scim to work???
[13:41] <grawity> gartral: errrr. You need to use -i _instead of_ a command.
[13:41] <grawity> gartral: sudo -u teleri -i [Enter]
[13:41] <cyphase> rob_p: i know i can just disable sftp altogether.. there's no way to do it per user?
[13:41] <cyphase> rob_p: or even, enable it per user
[13:41] <gartral> hoohaah: color escape? what's that, I didn't set anything special up, this box is 8.10>9.04 conversion
[13:42] <rob_p> cyphase, I've never had a requirement to do that so not sure.  Google may turn up something though.
[13:42] <cyphase> rob_p: i've been googling :)
[13:42] <nike> nike
[13:42] <rob_p> cyphase, I'll join you and if I come up with any suggestions, I'll post back...
[13:42] <hoohaah> nike: damn you marketing machine
[13:43] <cyphase> rob_p: thanks
[13:43] <gartral> grawity: Thank You
[13:43] <hoohaah> so.. success?
[13:44] <gartral> hoohaah: talkiing to me;? yes
[13:45] <gartral> do the new keys get auto-added too the autherized-keys file, or do I have to do that manually?
[13:45] <mahiti-irc> !ubottu
[13:45] <hoohaah> gartral: copy generated .pub keys as .ssh/authorized_keys
[13:46] <hoohaah> gartral: provided that file didn't exist previously
[13:46] <gartral> hoohaah: ok
[13:47] <condor> problem with onda mt503hsa
[13:47] <condor> help me
[13:47] <eBug> what do I do about update-manager complaining about missing pygtk module?
[13:47] <hoohaah> gartral: chown user:group -R ~/.ssh && chmod 700 ~/.ssh && chmod 600 ~/.ssh/*
[13:47] <badboy000> can somebopdy tel me where can i find a tutorial about sealing linux?
[13:48] <hoohaah> badboy000: sealing gaps?
[13:48] <SunnyD> badboy000: sealing ? or stealing ?
[13:48] <Ojii> support in this channel is too much luck based, and i don't have luck. can really no one help me with SCIM?
[13:48] <ruadh> brb
[13:48] <hoohaah> or sealing the kernel?
[13:49] <SunnyD> Ojii: so true :D if the person that can help you misses your question, you are fu*ked
[13:49] <cankoy> eBug: sudo apt-get -f install
[13:49] <Le-Chuck_ITA> Is there an on-the-fly dvd burner for jaunty
[13:49] <eBug> badboy000 sealing your computer box?
[13:49] <SunnyD> Le-Chuck_ITA: k3b is no good ?
[13:49] <hoohaah> these mibbit cloaks annoy me somewhat
[13:50] <erUSUL> Ojii: maybe in your specific language channel ? most english speaking people does not need scim
[13:50] <grawity> hoohaah: ever heard of /ignore.
[13:50] <Ojii> erUSUL: i only know english and german fluent... and for the japanese channel I'd need SCIM....
[13:50] <gird3r> To all the dudes who was helping me with some problem. Thank you.
[13:50] <eBug> cankoy apt-get -f install doesn't fix nothing (i.e. there's no problem)
[13:50] <erUSUL> Ojii: ok; fair enough
[13:51] <erUSUL> !patience
[13:51] <nike> hy
[13:51] <iw> iop
[13:51] <Ojii> kinda ironic, i might get help with SCIM if it worked
[13:51] <nike> gmn ni
[13:51] <Regral> Can anyone help me with my CD drive It decided it does not wanna mount
[13:51] <Titan8990> Regel, whats your error?
[13:51] <erUSUL> !scim
[13:52] <eBug> !update-manager
[13:52] <nike> hmmm
[13:52] <natschil> !package update-manager
[13:52] <Le-Chuck_ITA> SunntD: k3b is my next bet. I thought brasero could burn on the fly
[13:52] <Regral> well im putting the cd in and the auto mount is not picking the disk up not true error
[13:52] <jasper22> Hi ppl
[13:52] <hoohaah> nah, it's not the irc event, more the possibility of abuse
[13:52] <jasper22> Can someone recommend nice looking IRC client for Ubuntu ?
[13:53] <zaporzanb> anyone know of a good channel for openoffice stuff?
[13:53] <Titan8990> !irc | jasper22
[13:53] <Dr_Willis> jasper22: i tend to use xchat, or irssi.
[13:53] <zaporzanb> I need to figure how to use the spreedsheet ranges
[13:53] <Titan8990> jasper22, xchat
[13:53] <Ojii> thanks erUSUL: but that doesn't help, it doesn't crash anything, it just plain doesn't work (as in doesn't change input systems and never shows the toolbar even if i set it on 'always show')
[13:53] <Regral> Jasper22: Konversation is a good one
[13:53] <eBug> !computers
[13:53] <gartral> hoohaah: Thank You
[13:53] <jasper22> thank you - I check them
[13:53] <eBug> funny enough
[13:54] <erUSUL> Ojii: at the top of the page NOTE: This page is NOT a user's guide for SCIM. For user's guide, please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SCIM, and InputMethods/SCIM/Setup.
[13:54] <Titan8990> Dr_Willis, irssi is good but doesnt really fit the description "nice looking" lol
[13:54] <zaporzanb> any ideas how to hardcode specific values in the spreadsheet program in openoffice>"
[13:54] <rob_p> cyphase, Not turning up much here.  But although I cannot swear to it, I thought I was able to do ssh tunneling with the user's shell set to /bin/false.
[13:54] <Ojii> i know but it shows some problems erUSUL
[13:54] <erUSUL> Ojii: read the page before complaining those too links should suffice to get you started
[13:54] <rob_p> cyphase, I gave up ssh tunneling when I discovered openvpn...
[13:54] <alberto2000> anyone: where do i get new boot splash screens for 9.04?
[13:55] <Ojii> erUSUL: I read those two links... I did quite some googeling etc before coming ehre
[13:55] <cyphase> rob_p: maybe there's an option to leave it open..
[13:55] <petsounds> hello, i have a problem with my java applet. e.g when i trying to upload photos on facebook/myspace my browser are freezing or not responding, i try firefox, opera, konqueror but that's just the same. so i guess i have a problem with java. the q is how to fix this problem? thank you
[13:55] <gartral> Ojii: I combined the two
[13:56] <daurnimator> hey all
[13:56] <daurnimator> need some help
[13:56] <erUSUL> Ojii: ok if you did that your question should be more specific than just "How to use SCIM" you should have tried what the dosc say and something is failing. What have you tried how and what is failing? etc...
[13:56] <erUSUL> !details | Ojii
[13:56] <daurnimator> my cpu usage goes to 100% on many hdd operations
[13:56] <erUSUL> !work | Ojii
[13:56] <Ojii> erUSUL: I tried more specific questions, but now just went for attention
[13:57] <bazhang> Ojii, open scim setup
[13:57] <erUSUL> Ojii: ok; then i can not help much further sorry :| you will have to ask in the forums or keep trying here at ther times in the day
[13:57] <racecar56> Dr_Willis, uck keeps failing
[13:57] <bazhang> Ojii, should be a small kb in your upper panel
[13:58] <Ojii> here's the details: I'm running Jaunty (32bit), locale is en_US, keyboard is German Swiss. I installed SCIM for japanese according to http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=812552 but using ctrl+space (or any other hotkey) doesn't work. input method is not switched and i never get the toolbar. setting 'always show toolbar' doesnt show the toolbar either
[13:58] <racecar56> Dr_Willis, 'Restoring resolv.conf...' is the last line in the log...
[13:58] <Ojii> bazhang: i know where my scim setup is :D what should i do there?
[13:58] <bazhang> Ojii, for irc? or what input mode ie Firefox or other
[13:59] <eBug> can i safely upgrade from intrepid to jaunty just with 'apt-get dist-upgrade' ?
[13:59] <Ojii> it doesn't work anywhere... IRC, gedit, firefox, pidgin. never get the panel
[13:59] <sean2009> hello can any one tell me how to extract a tar file to a directory so far i have this--->> tar xvzf linuxtarfile.tar.gz but how do i extract it to my /home foleder..?
[13:59] <bazhang> !upgrade | eBug read this
[13:59] <Gourlis> How can I completely remove Mac4Lin theme ? Anyone knows ?
[13:59] <mansour> please has any one use punjab and jwchat in ubuntu
[14:00] <erUSUL> Gourlis: undo whatever you did to install it ?
[14:00] <Gushter13> hi
[14:00] <Gourlis> erusul, I extracted the theme and i ran install.sh
[14:00] <Gourlis> while trying to remove it with uninstall,sh
[14:00] <Gourlis> doesn't work
[14:00] <bazhang> Ojii, make sure you have all the language support packs installed
[14:01] <nzerox> hey all, how do you configure the ubuntu email serveR?
[14:01] <erUSUL> Gourlis: maybe that install.sh script has an option to uninstall ?
[14:01] <racecar56> how do i make my ubuntu remaster live cd have a user so i can log in without having to use uck?
[14:01] <bazhang> Ojii, you will need to restart scim for it to work
[14:01] <Ojii> bazhang: i did installed them through system->admin->language support and searched for 'useful' stuff in synaptic
[14:01] <Gourlis> erusul, it has. but doesn't work as execution as the other, it opens as a text editor
[14:01] <Ojii> bazhang: restarting it is just exiting it and start it with 'sudo scim -d' right?
[14:01] <bazhang> Ojii, did you try right clicking in the irc text entry field
[14:02] <Ojii> bazhang: because i did that dozend of times (just did it again) and doesn't work
[14:02] <hateball> What weird option might I have triggered that would cause my mousepointer to center on a window when I alt+tab or switch workspace etc? And how do I disable it instantly? :|
[14:02] <Ojii> bazhang: nope why would i rightclick?
[14:02] <erUSUL> Gourlis: probalby you have to run it from command line or give it executable permissions
[14:02] <eBug> bazhang i read it before but it didn't help. update-manager is broken
[14:02] <bazhang> Ojii, to choose the input method, ie kanji hiragana katakana etc
[14:02] <Ojii> bazhang: you're my hero, but how can i do it so i don't have to rightclick first?
[14:02] <indus> sean2009: tar xzvf  example.tar <dir>
[14:03] <Ojii> bazhang: and now i have two 'scim' symbols in top right corner
[14:03] <indus> sean2009: tar xvf  example.tar <dir>
[14:03] <indus> sorry
[14:03] <bazhang> eBug, please paste.ubuntu.com with your sources.list ( cat /etc/apt/sources.list ) ---> paste.ubuntu.com and give us the url
[14:04] <moldy> hi
[14:04] <indus> hi
[14:04] <Regral> !pastebin
[14:04] <moldy> which of the ftp servers in ubuntu is simple to configure? i only need very basic functionality (1 directory, 1 user)
[14:04] <bazhang> Ojii, scim/skim is a bit buggy at times; for FF I use quick-locale-switcher plugin along with scim/skim
[14:05] <sean2009> indus, thanks
[14:05] <cankoy> eBug: try command line upgrade (network upgrade for servers) on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/JauntyUpgrades
[14:05] <indus> sean2009: see if it works, i keep forgetting syntax
[14:05] <indus> ;0
[14:05] <Ojii> bazhang: is there a global setting to make all input boxes use scim instead of 'system (simple)'?
[14:05] <bazhang> Ojii, let me check my scim setup
[14:06] <sean2009> indus,  i got help from another room the command i was looking for is-->  tar xvzf linuxtarfile.tar.gz -C /targetdir
[14:06] <eBug> bazhang http://paste.ubuntu.com/191632/
[14:06] <sean2009> thanks
[14:06] <indus> sean2009: If u have a gzip tar yes u need z else only xvf is enough
[14:06] <indus> sean2009: but thanks for the full command
[14:07] <indus> sean2009: i just right click and extract it :D
[14:07] <bazhang> Ojii, in skim global setup there is 'share this setup with all applications ' box <--be sure to check that
[14:07] <sean2009> indus, i am installing slackware so i can't do that.!
[14:07] <Ojii> bazhang: ah i thought that keeps the current input method i chose for all apps
[14:07] <Gourlis> completely removed!
[14:08] <moldy> how do i disable key bindings in gnome-terminal?
[14:08] <moldy> it's driving me crazy
[14:08] <bazhang> eBug, you have mixed sources repos from jaunty and intrepid
[14:08] <Ojii> bazhang: thanks a lot! I owe you a beer if you ever come to tokyo :D
[14:08] <moldy> it collides with everything that is useful
[14:08] <bazhang> Ojii, you're welcome :)
[14:09] <racecar56> moldy, someone needs terminator/xterm
[14:09] <Xion345> Hello
[14:09] <eBug> bazhang how is it related to update-manager bug?
[14:09] <racecar56> moldy, try them
[14:09] <racecar56> moldy, i like terminator cause of the split thingy
[14:09] <bazhang> eBug, not a bug if you are mixing version repos
[14:09] <piXelshooter> Hi. I have a problem: My notebook does not boot from the Live CD I burned. My Desktop PC does. But my notebook boots from, for example, knoppix or windows cd. What could be the reason for it not booting from ubuntu cd/dvd (and for example also damn small linux dvd), although my PC does?
[14:09] <mansour> please i need help about xmpp http client can any one giv me any idea
[14:09] <bazhang> !xampp
[14:09] <moldy> racecar56: thanks, i know a dozend of alternatives to gnome-terminal, but i would like to know how i disable a darn keybinding in gnome-terminal...
[14:10] <sean2009> piXelshooter,  i installed my ubuntu from an external dvd drive as my internal one wouldn't boot either
[14:10] <moldy> it shows some keys as "disabled", so there must be a away to disable them?
[14:11] <hoohaah> moldy: you'd use gconftool-2 tool
[14:11] <hoohaah> moldy: eg gconftool-2 -t str -s /apps/gnome-terminal/keybindings/copy "<Control>c"
[14:11] <bazhang> piXelshooter, sounds like a bad/corrupt iso or a faulty cd
[14:11] <moldy> hoohaah: there is no easier way? you can change them via the gui, but you cannot disable them?
[14:11] <hoohaah> moldy: you can modify the other keybindings via menu
[14:12] <hoohaah> moldy: try blanking them out?
[14:12] <jakeriver> does anyone know why mozilla firefox is collapsing in my new ubuntu 9.04 install?
[14:12] <moldy> hoohaah: yes, i see that. but how do i *disable* a key?
[14:12] <piXelshooter> bazhang, could my desktop boot from it if the cd was broken? I have no knowledge about those things :(
[14:12] <moldy> hoohaah: i tried hitting escape, space and the like, but then it thinks i want to bind it to that key
[14:12] <moldy> this ui is a joke :p
[14:12] <hoohaah> moldy: backspace while not in input field?
[14:12] <moldy> let me try...
[14:12] <piXelshooter> sean2009: doesn't it boot from all disks, or only not from this special ubuntu cd?
[14:12] <hoohaah> moldy: i can't confirm as I'm not in front of my ubuntu box
[14:13] <TFHosting> http://tfhosting.servehttp.com/services.php <<--- Need a SeedBox?
[14:13] <bazhang> piXelshooter, did you md5 the iso, burn at very low speed, then do the disk integrity check after setting in bios to look for CD to boot from first?
[14:13] <moldy> hoohaah: nope, backspace jumps to the parent section :p
[14:13] <Pici> TFHosting: Please do not advertise in this channel.
[14:13] <bazhang> TFHosting, dont paste here
[14:13] <moldy> hoohaah: backspace while *in* the field works. hooray, thank you.
[14:13] <sean2009> piXelshooter,  no it didn't boot from the ubuntu disc, or other discs like fedora 10
[14:14] <hoohaah> again, mibbit
[14:14] <hoohaah> oh. it's an irc client
[14:14] <hoohaah> bah
[14:15] <moldy> can anyone recommend a *simple* ftp server?
[14:15] <piXelshooter> bazhang, yes, if I boot my desktop from the cd and perform an integrity check, it succeeds with no errors. but my notebook still boots from HD, although the CD drive is listed first in the boot order, and it boots from knoppix cd for example fine.
[14:15] <burkmat> !umask > burkmat
[14:15] <eBug> bazhang updating apt sources triggers the same error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/191646/
[14:16] <brabo> moldy i use protftpd and it works well
[14:16] <bazhang> eBug, why did you mix version repos?
[14:16] <piXelshooter> sean2009, okay, than that seems to be the same problem like mine :) using an external drive was your only solution?
[14:16] <hoohaah> i use vsftpd
[14:16] <sean2009> piXelshooter,  yes it was
[14:16] <eBug> bazhang to upgrade some packages
[14:16] <bazhang> piXelshooter, try some boot options then
[14:16] <moldy> brabo: that's the one i know :) i was hoping there was something simpler, because for this instance, i only need 1 r/w directory and 1 user
[14:16] <bazhang> !bootoptions | piXelshooter
[14:17] <eBug> bazhang i fixed the repos now
[14:17] <sean2009> piXelshooter, luckily i had bought one a few weeks before for my acer aspire one
[14:17] <bazhang> eBug, to upgrade what
[14:17] <eBug> bazhang openoffice packages
[14:17] <hoohaah> moldy: one time connection?
[14:17] <hoohaah> moldy: in which case, just use netcat
[14:18] <myself> hey does anyone know a good website or repository that has widgets and stuff for Kubuntu? Im looking for something that does a desktop integrated news RSS feed
[14:18] <moldy> hoohaah: no, connection can appear anytime
[14:18] <moldy> hoohaah: i have a copier that should scan to an ftp directory
[14:18] <Titan8990> myself, try gnome-look.org
[14:18] <myself> for KDE
[14:19] <moldy> hoohaah: i only need ftp because the smb client in the copier seems to be broken
[14:19] <hoohaah> kde-look ;)
[14:19] <myself> you think gnome-look would haev stuff for KDE?
[14:19] <Pici> myself: kde-look.org
[14:19] <myself> haha okay
[14:19] <bazhang> myself, kde-look then
[14:19] <myself> kewl ty
[14:19] <Whitor> moldy, lanier?
[14:19] <eBug> bazhang update-manager seems to have dependencies problem | there's some broken python gtk package
[14:19] <piXelshooter> bazhang, how can I use those boot options if the notebook does not boot from the CD? I do not get that ubuntu screen, it simply waits very long and than boots from hard disk.
[14:19] <Guest61260> What is the computer capable of doing while in standby mode? Can it make any sort of descions?
[14:19] <moldy> Whitor: konica minolta
[14:19] <Whitor> mm
[14:20] <eBug> Guest61260 like what you can eat for breakfast?
[14:20] <erUSUL> Guest61260: suspended or hybernated ? no
[14:20] <moldy> other hosts can upload to the smb directory fine, copier can not -- and i don't feel like spending hours with a packet sniffer to debug this shit ;)
[14:20] <bazhang> eBug, which is why you should never mix version sources
[14:20] <Guest61260> erUSUL: Suspended.
[14:20] <hoohaah> Guest61260: memory is kept active, cpu throttled down to lowest-power state, disk and display off
[14:21] <erUSUL> Guest61260: no the os is not running
[14:21] <ronnie> hi
[14:21] <Guest61260> hoohaah: Can it look at things such as battery remaining and make a decision based on the results?
[14:21] <hoohaah> Guest61260: most often, the only thing happening in standby mode is the system waiting for a wakeup call, or receiving feedback from power-state
[14:22] <hoohaah> Guest61260: for the latter, this will (usually) set hibernation in motion
[14:22] <eBug> bazhang so, where do I go from here?
[14:22] <Guest61260> hoohaah: k thanks bai
[14:23] <hoohaah> punctuation
[14:23] <hoohaah> spelling
[14:24] <hoohaah> otherwise disingenuous ;)
[14:25] <charly_> hello
[14:25] <finch> hello all
[14:25] <Galaxor> Hi.  I've got a sound-juicer quesiton.  I want sound-juicer to rip to mp3.  That's not in my "Format" dropdown.  I "Edit Profiles", and create an mp3 profile with a gstreamer pipeline in it.  One that should work.  I click "Active?" to yes, and I quit and restart sound-juicer.  The mp3 profile is still not in my options.  What am I doing wrong?
[14:26] <charly_> i have problem with my microphone on jaunty jacklope
[14:26] <charly_> can anybody help me in fixing that
[14:26] <iubot>  É¶ ´ô
[14:26] <hoohaah> Galaxor: i've never used sound-juicer myself, but is it possible it doesn't save profiles to $HOME?
[14:26] <hoohaah> rather, could it be reading from some global conf each time it's launched?
[14:26] <bazhang> iubot, english here
[14:27] <iubot>  ´ó¼ÒºÃ°¡
[14:27] <finch> I have problem witch driver uvcvideo
[14:27] <charly_> microphone not working in ubuntu
[14:27] <charly_> anybody no the solution
[14:27] <charly_> ?
[14:27] <Titan8990> !mic
[14:27] <hoohaah> charly_: give it a bit of time
[14:27] <charly_> anybody knows the solution
[14:28] <Titan8990> !microphone
[14:28] <carpii> try learning to ask a proper question
[14:28] <eBug> bazhang other distros manage mixed repos much better it seems, like Debian
[14:28] <Galaxor> Aha.  I don't have the right lame packages installed.  Or perhaps I have the wrong name for lame in the pipeline.
[14:28] <sean2009> charly did you try going into the volume thing and adjusting the volume of it / turning it on / un muting?
[14:28] <Titan8990> !ask
[14:28] <charly_> yes i did it
[14:28] <finch> who have driver uvcvideo
[14:28] <eBug> ! ubuntu
[14:29] <charly_> still the same problem
[14:29] <sean2009> charly,  ok well perhaps someone else can suggest something as i'm only a beginner at linux
[14:29] <finch> I know but my picters is 360
[14:29] <Galaxor> I had the liblamemp3 package installed, but not the "lame".
[14:29] <kblin> hi folks
[14:30] <Jimi_Neutral> hi all, anyone know where i can go to chat about internet connections...about the different types and stuff
[14:30] <kblin> how do I turn off IPv6 networking on a 9.04 server?
[14:30] <hoohaah> kblin: blacklist
[14:30] <matrixblue> charly_, what's the problem exactly? (skype, etc.?
[14:30] <try2free> hi
[14:30] <Kartagis> how can i sort according to size?
[14:31] <[Crussd2]> how do i installing Yahoo Messenger on Jaunty??
[14:31] <try2free> anyone know what program to block internet sharing connection, history dll
[14:31] <charly_> i just upgraded my ubuntu 8.10 with 9.04
[14:31] <kblin> hoohaah: it's not a module, though
[14:31] <hoohaah> Kartagis: du -sk * | sort +0nr
[14:31] <charly_> now am not able to use microphone with skype
[14:31] <kblin> hoohaah: at least lsmod |grep ipv6 comes up empty
[14:32] <Kartagis> thanks hoohaah
[14:32] <matrixblue> charly_, have you tried changing the sound input device?
[14:32] <charly_> i checked the volume prefernce and selected everything
[14:32] <myself> where can i find a web page where i can browse through a kubuntu repository
[14:32] <charly_> yes
[14:32] <matrixblue> charly_, within skype I mean
[14:33] <supersasho> hi.. sometimes in arecord -l i don't have listed my usb webcam microphone, any idea why? it can be "repaired" by rebooting, but this is an anoying solution
[14:33] <Kartagis> myself, packages.kubuntu.com maybe?
[14:33] <hoohaah> Kartagis: if you need to sort .directories, du -sk .[a-z]* | sort +0nr
[14:33] <myself> no
[14:33] <charly_> yes
[14:34] <charly_> i tried with HDA intel 0
[14:34] <charly_> i tried with HDA intel 1
[14:34] <charly_> and pulse
[14:34] <charly_> nothing is working for me
[14:34] <hoohaah> kblin: is this a custom kernel build?
[14:34] <Galaxor> Oh.  The one I needed was gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse.  Thanks.
[14:34] <matrixblue> charly_, Applications, Sound and Video, Sound Recorder.....tell if your mic works there
[14:35] <hoohaah> kblin: you'd need to use sysctl instead if the option is builtin
[14:35] <squirrelpimp> is packages.ubuntu.com down?
[14:35] <orudie> hi, how can i view ssh keys ?
[14:35] <hoohaah> orudie: seahorse
[14:35] <charly_> yes there it is working
[14:36] <matrixblue> charly_, the problem is in your skype configuration.consider a re-install
[14:37] <charly_> ok i will do and let u know
[14:37] <charly_> thanks for the support
[14:37] <charly_> bye
[14:37] <cporter> Hello! How might I go about making all of my files and folders in my home directory chowned back to my account? I accidentally moved folders using root and it has broken things....
[14:37] <hoohaah> cporter: sudo chown $USER:$USER -R $HOME
[14:37] <Titan8990> cporter, sudo chown -R username:username /home/username
[14:38] <cporter> OK, that's what I thought, but I wasn't sure, thanks!
[14:38] <bc01> Andrias
[14:38] <x1sc0> anybody can help me with gtk ?
[14:38] <hoohaah> x1sc0: only if it were less vague
[14:39] <matrixblue> !details | x1sc0
[14:39] <ShockF> hi
[14:39] <Xcell> Very nice Ubuntu: http://news.softpedia.com/news/GRUB-2-The-New-Boot-Loader-in-Ubuntu-9-10-113671.shtml
[14:39] <ShockF> could somebody help me with a problem i have please
[14:40] <nibbler_> ShockF: describing your problem could help to find out...
[14:40] <hoohaah> go Aussie
[14:40] <matrixblue> !ask | ShockF
[14:41] <hoohaah>  !topic no need for foreplay ;)
[14:41] <Gourlis> Anyone knows where Ubuntu 9.04 themes are? I want to have the new theme which is on 9.04 on my Ubuntu 8.10
[14:42] <matrixblue> Gourlis, try www.ubuntu-art.org
[14:42] <ShockF> ok so i have just downloaded and burnt what i suspect is the latest version of ubuntu to a disk i downloaded it from the main website and i put the cd in my laptop everything loads up fine yet when i press enter to start the installation something seems to load and then everything goes blank yet the laptop is still running and all the lights are on any help with this ?
[14:42] <Gourlis> matrixblue, i want the official theme made by ubuntu. :D
[14:42] <matrixblue> Gourlis, the theme is called human and it should be there
[14:42] <Myrtti> ShockF: have you tried the alternate install disc?
[14:43] <ShockF> alternate install disc ?
[14:43] <x1sc0> oks, i'm doing with pygtk a dialog and if I apply to this leave-notify-event it works right, but if I add a scrolledwindow to it, when the mouse is on the scroll it disappears, How can I avoid it ?
[14:43] <Titan8990> Xcell, looks to me like they are changing something unnecessary so I have to learn it agin....
[14:43] <nibbler_> ShockF: well... no idea about this bug, but there is an "alternative install cd" available, which uses textmode, maybe this works for you?
[14:43] <pixelmonkey> anyone experiencing random hardlocks in Jaunty with the iwl3945 driver?
[14:43] <hoohaah> aren't the blueprints for livecd/install-disks available online?
[14:43] <hoohaah> I'm sure you can get the artwork there
[14:43] <Myrtti> !alternate | ShockF
[14:43] <Gourlis> matrixblue, not the other one in 9.04 which is somehow dark i think
[14:43] <matrixblue> ShockF, are you getting into the live cd mode or are you pressing install at the first menu?
[14:44] <Xcell> Titan8990-  na...it'll be nice...especially for modern bios and memory management.
[14:44] <matrixblue> Gourlis, I think that' darkroom
[14:44] <bootstrap> im trying to learn C++ but ubuntu wont recognize some of the commands can anyone help me
[14:44] <erUSUL> bootstrap: what commands ?
[14:44] <hoohaah> bootstrap: do you at least have the compiler?
[14:44] <bootstrap> using
[14:44] <ShockF> no i can get to the splash menu and can choose options ive tried the try before installing option and that seemd to load and then i tried the install option and that seemd to load and then went blank
[14:45] <hateball> !info build-essentials | bootstrap
[14:45] <hateball> ugh...
[14:45] <erUSUL> !be | bootstrap
[14:45] <Myrtti> essential_, hateball
[14:45] <hateball> !info build-essential | bootstrap
[14:45] <hateball> Myrtti: yeah noted
[14:46] <ShockF> how do i find this alternate cd
[14:46] <bootstrap> ok i didnt understand any of that
[14:46] <Cheery> do you know good nes emulators?
[14:46] <hoohaah> ShockF: under 'Even more options' title on download page
[14:47] <ShockF> kk
[14:47] <hateball> bootstrap: install that package and you should have most stuff needed for compiling
[14:48] <ShockF> is there one that isnt a torrent ?
[14:48] <hateball> !pm | bootstrap
[14:48] <znh_> Hello :)
[14:48] <hateball> bootstrap: sudo aptitude install build-essential
[14:48] <big-pengwiin> ola brothaz
[14:48] <hoohaah> ShockF: scroll down
[14:49] <ShockF> also do you think this wubi thing may work for me ?
[14:49] <Vlet_> When using tightvnc, what is the proper way to shut down the server? When I kill the process, I still have to go in and delete the lock files every time.
[14:49] <mainstream_> !pre VA-One_Year_of_Carmarage-(10006026)-WEB-2009-EMM
[14:49] <Gourlis> I can see 9.10 over google search, topics, forums discussions etc. 9.10 released officialy ?
[14:49] <hoohaah> ShockF: definitely
[14:49] <znh_> I installed Ubuntu on my USB Stick using VMware (to avoid burning Ubuntu to CDROM). I can boot it fine within VMWare (from USB) but if I try to boot it from the pyshical machine I get back to Busybox after the menu. Do I have to edit something like fstab?
[14:49] <Pici> Gourlis: No. 9.10 is in development
[14:49] <Gourlis> ok
[14:49] <mainstream_> ahh crap wrong window
[14:49] <Pici> !9.10 | Gourlis
[14:50] <big-pengwiin> how can I speed up my IDE HDD speed?
[14:50] <hoohaah> hdparm
[14:50] <hateball> big-pengwiin: you can tweak it with hdparm
[14:50] <Gourlis> thx pici
[14:50] <hoohaah> unless it's already set to max capabilities
[14:50] <bootstrap> thanks hateball
[14:50] <big-pengwiin> my HDD do not support DMa, it is possible?
[14:50] <ShockF> @hoohaah do you think the wubi installation may work ?
[14:51] <big-pengwiin> hdparm installed already
[14:51] <Myrtti> ShockF: if you can, use a normal install
[14:51] <erUSUL> big-pengwiin: if it is very very old is possible
[14:51] <big-pengwiin> szia pici tetsver
[14:51] <ShockF> kk
[14:51] <Gourlis> Pici, I can't remove OSX icons in 8.10 although they are not working at all. You know anyway removing them completely ?
[14:51] <eurythmia> erUSUL, beat me to it ;)
[14:51] <big-pengwiin> no, not too old
[14:51] <hoohaah> ShockF: that was really a mock answer ;) . I don't know how you'll fare with Wubi
[14:51] <dmazzone> "/format own_msg {ownmsgnick $2 {ownnick $[-9]0}}$1"
[14:51] <dmazzone> "/format own_msg_channel {ownmsgnick $3 {ownnick $[-9]0}{msgchannel $1}}$2"
[14:51] <dmazzone> "/format pubmsg_me {pubmsgmenick $2 {menick $[-9]0}}$1"
[14:51] <dmazzone> "/format pubmsg_me_channel {pubmsgmenick $3 {menick $[-9]0}{msgchannel $1}}$2"
[14:51] <dmazzone> "/format pubmsg_hilight {pubmsghinick $0 $3 $[-9]1}$2"
[14:51] <FloodBot2> dmazzone: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:51] <dmazzone> "/format pubmsg_hilight_channel {pubmsghinick $0 $4 $[-9]1{msgchannel $2}}$3"
[14:51] <Pici> Gourlis: You could try manually removing them from ~/.icons
[14:51] <dmazzone> oops sorry folks
[14:52] <hoohaah> wow, irssi theme?
[14:52] <Myrtti> ShockF: wubi is considered by many a way to test if it works with the hardware, there are some problems with it, so I wouldn't recommend it as a permanent solution
[14:52] <kblin> hoohaah: it's not a custom kernel build. it's a 9.04 amd64 server install
[14:52] <mmarlon> hello
[14:52] <hoohaah> kblin: did you catch my earlier sysctl remark?
[14:52] <Gourlis> Pici, I went usr/share/icons and i can't see them there. only in right click properties on the desktop and customize etc..
[14:52] <kblin> hoohaah: yeah, checking
[14:52] <ShockF> @myritti would you recomend i use it to see if it will install and then if it does try the text based version ?
[14:52] <erUSUL> big-pengwiin: can you paste the output of « sudo hdparm -I /dev/sdx » for your disk ?
[14:52] <Vlet_> dmazzone: always best to do that in the server tab or something just incase that happens :)
[14:53] <Pici> Gourlis: Only system wide icons are installed there. /home/$user/.icons is where your own user's icon themes are installed.
[14:53] <dmazzone> yeah that good call :)
[14:53] <big-pengwiin> erUSUL of course, thanks
[14:53] <Gourlis> Pici, oh let me check.
[14:53] <hoohaah> kblin: set all ipv6 options to 0
[14:53] <bootstrap> what do i need to wright C++ when using ubuntu
[14:53] <Myrtti> ShockF: that's about the only use I can think for it.
[14:54] <ShockF> @myrtti ok i shall try that then first and i shall come back with my results and let you know how i get on
[14:54] <erUSUL> bootstrap: a text editor and the compiler minimum... you can also install an IDE
[14:54] <hoohaah> bootstrap: way off on the spelling..
[14:54] <Gourlis> Pici, removed. Thank you man!
[14:54] <hoohaah> bootstrap: that build-essential package no good?
[14:54] <big-pengwiin> ertUSUL: please follow: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/191679/
[14:55] <bootstrap> yeah sorry about the spelling was typing fast
[14:55] <myself> how do i make a certain program start up w/ startup in kubuntu
[14:55] <erUSUL> !tab | big-pengwiin
[14:55] <bootstrap> and no the build essential didnt work
[14:55] <erUSUL> big-pengwiin: DMA: mdma0 mdma1 mdma2 udma0 udma1 udma2 udma3 udma4 *udma5 udma6
[14:55] <erUSUL> big-pengwiin: it seems to be well configured is using *udma5
[14:56] <mocas> hi there
[14:56] <erUSUL> big-pengwiin: do a quick test « sudo hdparm -tT /dev/sdx »
[14:56] <kblin> hoohaah: shouldn't sysctlc net.ipv6.conf.all.disable_ipv6=1 be sufficient?
[14:56] <hoohaah> big-penguin: sdparm, perhaps?
[14:56] <erUSUL> !editor | bootstrap
[14:56] <ShockF> @hoohaah/ myrtti im intending to install it on a 19gb partition what do you reccomend as an installation size
[14:56] <mocas> can I install ubuntu-9.0.4-desktop-i386.iso on a usb disk?
[14:56] <rautatea> hello everybody
[14:56] <hoohaah> kblin: maybe. haven't looked at the thing ina while :)
[14:56] <[Crussd2]> mocas: just Visit http://pendrivelinux.com
[14:57] <big-pengwiin> sdparm? what is that?
[14:57] <rautatea> i m new here and new in linux
[14:57] <erUSUL> bootstrap: if you are a begginer maybe it is better to install an ide like anjuta
[14:57] <big-pengwiin> /dev/sda:
[14:57] <big-pengwiin>  Timing cached reads:   1534 MB in  2.00 seconds = 766.76 MB/sec
[14:57] <big-pengwiin>  Timing buffered disk reads:  150 MB in  3.01 seconds =  49.92 MB/sec
[14:57] <Myrtti> !usb | mocas
[14:57] <erUSUL> !info anjuta | bootstrap
[14:57] <[Crussd2]> !info gfxboot
[14:57] <erUSUL> big-pengwiin: 49.92 MB/sec <<<< seems pretty decent for a hard drive
[14:57] <Myrtti> ShockF: that should be enough
[14:57] <mocas> thks
[14:57] <erUSUL> big-pengwiin: why do you say it is slow ??
[14:58] <rautatea> i ts any im client to wwork with video call
[14:58] <hoohaah> big-pengwiin: *udma5
[14:58] <rautatea> sorry for my bad englich
[14:58] <Dreamglider> how do i add dictionaries to open office in ubuntu ?
[14:58] <big-pengwiin> hoohaah udma5?
[14:58] <komputes> Dreamglider: System > Administration > Language Support
[14:58] <ShockF> @myrtti what i mean is im going to install it on a 19gb partition but wubi is asking me for an installation size would i put 19gb or would i do less
[14:59] <hoohaah> big-pengwiin: that's what it says on your dump
[14:59] <big-pengwiin> ertUsul you said not slow
[14:59] <big-pengwiin> ?
[14:59] <jhammit> Interested in setting up 9.04 for migrating without a mouse or pad, how do I get the UNDERLINE to display so I can do Alt - (plus) underlined letter to navigate the menus etc.,
[14:59] <erUSUL> big-pengwiin: yes 50 MB/sec is a decent speed for a hard drive
[14:59] <Myrtti> ShockF: it will try to make a loopback file to use as the "harddrive", either inside your windows or to a directory you point to it, so you can pretty much decide yourself
[15:00] <big-pengwiin> my dump here: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/191679/
[15:00] <supersasho> hi.. sometimes in arecord -l i don't have listed my usb webcam microphone, any idea why? it can be "repaired" by rebooting, but this is an anoying solution
[15:00] <ShockF> ok ill do 8 like the screenshot where the download link is on the site
[15:00] <big-pengwiin> just , I think: I have one csv file, contained one million of data
[15:00] <hoohaah> big-pengwiin: it might be better to explain when and how it's slow
[15:00] <ShockF> also do i need to put a password or could i leave it blank
[15:01] <erUSUL> big-pengwiin: my pata disk here does 55 and the sata one does 62
[15:01] <big-pengwiin> my process script running about 3 minutes
[15:01] <big-pengwiin> erUSUL thanks
[15:01] <Vinceman> linux is more difficult than windows
[15:01] <hoohaah> big-pengwiin: ram and cpu?
[15:01] <Myrtti> ShockF: I think you can't leave it blank
[15:02] <big-pengwiin> one piece of 12 pages PDF file: making only 3 sec!
[15:02] <ShockF> yeh i just found out lol
[15:02] <Myrtti> Vinceman: you're entitled to your opinion - but please keep the offtopic chatter elsewhere
[15:02] <hoohaah> big-pengwiin: use iostat to find i/o bottlenecks
[15:02] <jhammit> Yay Vinceman
[15:02] <big-pengwiin> hoohaah: 512 MB DDR400 and 3.06Ghz Celeron
[15:02] <JerseyMonkey> Hi folks, I am using vim for some sensitive files. Is there any easy way to password/encrypt files in VIM without requiring a seperate program to decrypt before modifying?
[15:02] <ShockF> its installing now so ill tell you exactly what happens
[15:03] <hoohaah> JerseyMonkey: better to automatically decrypt said files
[15:03] <hoohaah> JerseyMonkey: vim doesn't decrypt on it's own
[15:03] <big-pengwiin> hoohaah thanks a lot
[15:03] <jhammit> Vinceman, - of course linux is more difficult, but that's the learning curve combined with the experience
[15:04] <big-pengwiin> basszatok meg itt vannak ertelmes emberek!
[15:04] <thiebaude> jhammit: offtopic, but i find ubuntu not difficult at all
[15:04] <big-pengwiin> nem ugy mint az ubuntu-hun-n
[15:04] <erUSUL> JerseyMonkey: maybe it is better to use an ecripted partition or folder ? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FolderEncryption
[15:04] <Vinceman> is working then with linux a good investment for the future?
[15:04] <Vinceman> jhammit?
[15:04] <myself> hey my kubuntu help index is missing? can i reinstall it?
[15:04] <Pici> !english | big-pengwiin
[15:04] <myself> or where would it be
[15:04] <The_Warlock> how to i change the font size in aterm and also have bold text?
[15:04] <JerseyMonkey> erUSUL: Thanx.
[15:04] <big-pengwiin> Pici in hungarian like "little"
[15:05] <hoohaah> The_Warlock: google xresources
[15:05] <matrix_> what?
[15:05] <myself> or wait it just took a sec to load
[15:05] <dj_segfault> Hey.  I have a library loading problem.  A program is trying to load libm.so.6, which is in /lib/libm.so.6 and /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libm.so.6 but neither of those paths are in /etc/ld.so.conf.d/*  Should it be?
[15:05] <dazjorz> Hi guys :) Is there a list of changes between Debian and Ubuntu Server available somewhere? :)
[15:05] <dazjorz> or, at least, a general list
[15:06] <kblin> hoohaah: ok, the disable ipv6 and a restart of networking fixed it for me
[15:06] <znh_> dazjorz, tried google? just curious
[15:06] <hoohaah> kblin: :)
[15:07] <dazjorz> znh_: of course, and I noticed the wikipedia "ubuntu server edition" page just forwards to ubuntu and that'sit
[15:07] <dazjorz> but I figured somebody in here may have a link or so
[15:07] <ubuntu> where is the xorg.conf file ?
[15:07] <dazjorz> ubuntu: /etc/X11
[15:07] <mbt> Anyone have/had issues with nvidia GeForce 7050 PV hardware corrupting the display regularly (and been able to make it stop)?  If so, I'd like to hear from you...
[15:07] <ubuntu> dazjorz: thnx
[15:07] <dazjorz> znh_: I think most pages about ubuntu server are simply about the differences between windows server and ubuntu server, and such things, I specifically want to know debian versus ubuntu server
[15:08] <dazjorz> :)
[15:08] <hoohaah> dazjorz: ubuntu server -windows ;)
[15:08] <dazjorz> znh_: most of the changes between debian and vanilla ubuntu are to make the desktop easier, which is amazing, but if I am installing a server, I don't want those things :)
[15:08] <[nrx]>  I have a weird problem, not necessarily Ubuntu related. In a hotel, I've purchased wireless access. However, once connected, the browser doesn't load the correct 'login page' so I can't get it enabled. If I boot up in XP or OSX then it's fine. Can anyone help? :(
[15:08] <znh_> dazjorz, uhm. what i'd do is check dpkg --list (or whatever it is. to get a listing of installed packages) and compare it
[15:09] <dazjorz> znh_: most of ubuntu's changes come in the package configurations, that's what I was mainly looking for and I'm not even going to scan all of the config files :P
[15:09] <The_Warlock> XLock.font:   -adobe-new century schoolbook-medium-r-normal-*-*-300-*-*-*-*-*-*
[15:09] <The_Warlock> XLock.font:   -adobe-new century schoolbook-medium-r-normal-*-*-300-*-*-*-*-*-*
[15:09] <The_Warlock> XLock.font:   -adobe-new century schoolbook-medium-r-normal-*-*-300-*-*-*-*-*-*
[15:09] <The_Warlock> XLock.font:   -adobe-new century schoolbook-medium-r-normal-*-*-300-*-*-*-*-*-*
[15:09] <FloodBot2> The_Warlock: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:09] <ShockF> @myrtti ok im going to reboot now installation has finished ill come back and tell you what happens
[15:09] <znh_> dazjorz, I see.. Hmm
[15:10] <znh_> dazjorz, brb
[15:10] <hoohaah> [nrx]: call reception and ask for proxy server settings, or at least the url to the login page
[15:10] <dazjorz> hoohaah: if the only difference is the windows vs linux kernel, that's one heck of an awful server : p
[15:10] <The_Warlock> what does the -adobe-new century schoolbook-medium-r-normal-*-*-300-*-*-*-*-*-* mean?
[15:10] <hoohaah> [nrx]: can you ping elsewhere?
[15:10] <jhammit>  Interested in setting up 9.04 for migrating without a mouse or pad, how do I get the UNDERLINE to display so I can do Alt - (plus) underlined letter to navigate the menus etc.,
[15:11] <hoohaah> The_Warlock: that's the logical font description for X
[15:11] <[nrx]> hoohaah, I have all of that information. Unfortunately, I can't get any traffic going at all. Can't even ping the router/gateway/dns servers
[15:11] <hoohaah> The_Warlock: ie the font standard used by X
[15:11] <matt_ubuntu> i installed WUBI on my windows XP machine.  can someone PM me on what i do from there?  i'm really confused.
[15:11] <hoohaah> The_Warlock: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X_logical_font_description
[15:11] <hoohaah> [nrx]: what's in your /etc/resolv.conf?
[15:11] <The_Warlock> hoohaah: tnx
[15:12] <[nrx]> I'm not in the hotel at the mo so nothing relevant to that connection unfortunately :(
[15:12] <dj_segfault> [nrx]: Are you trying by name or IP address?
[15:12] <[nrx]> dj_segfault, both
[15:13] <dj_segfault> [nrx]: Wait, is this wireless or wired?
[15:13] <hoohaah> [nrx]: have the dhcp leases expired?
[15:13] <Um_cara_qualquer> http://paste.ubuntu.com/191690/ folkds
[15:13] <[nrx]> dj_segfault, both :)
[15:13] <myself> how do i autostart something in kubuntu
[15:13] <[nrx]> hoohaah, I don't think that's the problem. I can fire up the laptop into OSX and it's fine. Connect to the network, fire up firefox and bang, get the login page.
[15:13] <[nrx]> IIn ubuntu, I get connected, fire up firefox and nothing
[15:14] <hoohaah> [nrx]: restrictive firewall settings?
[15:14] <[nrx]> I've checked network settings and the IP/DNS assigned via DHCP and all is well (identical mostly to the settings in place on OSX)
[15:14] <[nrx]> hoohaah, explain?
[15:14] <Um_cara_qualquer> someone plz, take a look at this
[15:14] <Um_cara_qualquer> http://paste.ubuntu.com/191690/
[15:14] <hoohaah> [nrx]: that about answers my question ;)
[15:15] <[nrx]> :)
[15:15] <[nrx]> I'm totally baffled if I'm honest
[15:15] <The_Warlock> hoohaah, how ill i get the X logical description for my font?
[15:15] <[nrx]> Even put in a network proxy to no avail
[15:16] <hoohaah> it wouldn't be firefox as you can't even ping it. Do you have a dhclient.conf that's assigning custom dns servers that preceed that obtained by dhcp?
[15:16] <ShockF> ok back
[15:16] <erUSUL> [nrx]: what is the exact error msg you get from ping ? maybe it is a problem with routes ?
[15:17] <ShockF> the problem still persists i choose to boot into ubuntu i get a message saying press esc to enter menu  with a countdown i let it countdown and then the screen just goes blank again =/
[15:17] <[nrx]> hoohaah, a quick search shoes no dhclient.conf. I must add that I can use this happily (like right now) in the office wireless network ANd on a wired connection
[15:17] <[nrx]> erUSUL, I can't replicate at the moment, I'm not in the hotel. But when I am... obviously I can't get online heh :(
[15:17] <hoohaah> The_Warlock: mkfontdir will generate a file for you
[15:17] <Pumba> Ah; so I'm new to all this, how does an IRC work?
[15:17] <mbt> Anyone have/had issues with nvidia GeForce 7050 PV hardware corrupting the display regularly (and been able to make it stop)?  If so, I'd like to hear from you.
[15:17] <hoohaah> The_Warlock: else, use xfontsel to sift through each option
[15:18] <ShockF> any ideas hoohaah or myrtti
[15:18] <dazjorz> Pumba: you are currently in the #ubuntu channel of the FreeNode IRC network, and when you speak, everybody here receives it
[15:18] <Pumba> Oh cool
[15:18] <erUSUL> [nrx]: well the msg is allways a good indication... if it says unknown host --> dns problem if it says no route to host --> a routes problem if it timeouts --> who knows? ;P
[15:18] <dazjorz> Pumba: that's pretty much it. you can also talk to people in private, outside of a channel - it may depend on your IRC client, but /msg [username] [message] usually does it
[15:19] <[nrx]> erUSUL,  ueah I appreciate that :)
[15:19] <fbc-mx> How do I make my desktop see nfs shares? I can mount the manually, bot not see them through the network browser.
[15:19] <dazjorz> Pumba: /join [channel] to join new channels, /leave to leave them; etc. it's kinda simple :)
[15:19] <LordDicranius> is there a way to make Courier-IMAP use the MX records to deliver to a mailbox of the same name, instead of just dropping it off locally?
[15:19] <Pumba> Cool!
[15:19] <[nrx]> erUSUL, he issue seems to stem around getting to the authentication page. I can't get that far... it's like firefox wont redirect by default to that page, you know?
[15:19] <The_Warlock> is font rendering dependent on the distro of linux or is the mindow manager dependent?
[15:20] <The_Warlock> window*
[15:20] <dazjorz> Pumba: usually, in a conversation on a large channel, you prefix your message with "[username], " or "[username]: " so your message stands out against the flood of messages (that's what I've been doing, almost automatically)
[15:20] <hoohaah> [nrx]: might indeed be a security measure
[15:20] <dazjorz> Pumba: it's easy, you don't have to type "dazjorz: " every time; just type "daz" and press tab until it says "dazjorz: "
[15:20] <Nehyx> Pumba: for more freenode support join in #freenode -> /join #freenode ;)
[15:20] <hoohaah> [nrx]: ssl certs fine on firefox?
[15:20] <[nrx]> hoohaah, but then surely if I'm telling it what address to go to, it would accept that? It's not even finding it. I'd dead in the water, entirely once connected
[15:20] <erUSUL> [nrx]: the outh page of the router ?
[15:20] <DaZ> dazjorz: ...
[15:20] <dazjorz> Pumba: or, on other clients, type "daz", press tab, see the options, and potentially type some more characters and press tab until you get it :)
[15:21] <hoohaah> [nrx]: then back to /etc/resolv.conf :)
[15:21] <DaZ> i know you love highlighting me
[15:21] <hoohaah> [nrx]: this is absolutely maddening as you're not able to test any theories
[15:21] <dazjorz> DaZ: oh shit, it must be even worse for you :p
[15:21] <Pumba> dazjorz: Thanks for your advice!
[15:21] <[nrx]> hoohaah, yeah. It's even worse when I fire up OSX to get online... do a bit of googling then need to reboot into Linux.. and fail
[15:21] <hoohaah> fah ale
[15:22] <dazjorz> DaZ: I had a highlight on "*daz*", but got highlighted constantly, there's some dazedit lamer which impersonates freenode staff sometimes etc, people talk about "dazzle", etc :P
[15:22] <[nrx]> hoohaah, I know you say /etc/resolv.conf however surely I'd be able to access the default page(s), DNS server, Gateway etc by IP. I can't even ping them
[15:22] <[nrx]> Which to me would suggest routes.
[15:22] <DaZ> i have only on 'daz' and it's fine
[15:22] <d1gital> hello all. i'm having trouble with flashplugin. flashplugin-nonfree is installed on my system yet i cannot load flash content in firefox or midori.  I tried installing the plugin from adobe.com,  but both the deb and the tarball tell me x64 is not supported.  surely there's a way to view flash content on a 64-bit system, right?
[15:22] <jhammit>  Interested in setting up 9.04 for migrating around the computer menus without a mouse or pad, how do I get the UNDERLINE to display so I can do Alt - (plus) underlined letter to navigate.
[15:23] <ShockF> @hoohaah i tried the wubi thing and the same happens as with my live cd do you think my hardware might not match whats needed for ubuntu
[15:23] <dazjorz> Pumba: btw, when your client detects your name it highlights the message, the practice of adding someones nick in a message (like when I say "pumba" or "DaZ"), is called highlighting too :)
[15:23] <hoohaah> [nrx]: do you restart networking upon each roam?
[15:23] <[nrx]> hoohaah, no
[15:23] <mbt> jhammit: I have access key underlines on my menus, out of the box, using GNOME...
[15:23] <hoohaah> [nrx]: how are you connecting wirelessly?
[15:23] <[nrx]> hoohaah, the laptop is restarted though, so in effect everything is 'fresh'
[15:24] <DaZ> o rly [;
[15:24] <hoohaah> [nrx]: if it's through a frontend of some sort, I can't help
[15:24] <[nrx]> hoohaah, just the default manager in ubuntu... using the GUI
[15:24] <hoohaah> yup. ubuntu voodoo
[15:24] <Pumba> dazjorz: sweet thanks. I think I'll just watch now and slowly pick things up.
[15:24] <[nrx]> hoohaah, I don't think it makes much difference because all the settings are correct and the relevant entries are made (gateway, DNS, etc)
[15:25] <hoohaah> [nrx]: i'm more inclined to use wpa_supplicant or similar
[15:25] <hoohaah> [nrx]: seemingly..
[15:25] <hoohaah> again, no idea on gnome-* managers
[15:25] <[nrx]> Understood
[15:26] <[nrx]> Annoying that it works everywhere else tho :S
[15:26] <jhammit> Hmmmmmmmmmm yeah I have 9.04 with the full edubuntu add on's - very good, issues with laptop and the pad and the USB mouse... if I turn the pad OFF, then when there is NO mouse (left at home etc., ) then I can't run the laptop - no Alt+ menu operations
[15:26] <h00k> Any ideas why my apt speeds trickle down from around 500kbps to around 400bps?  It only happens with synaptic, I've tried different mirrors, and I'm not capped here at work as far as bandwidth
[15:27] <Pyam> Hi
[15:27] <Pyam> I need help
[15:27] <thiebaude> d1gital: http://nxadm.wordpress.com/2009/04/26/install-64-bit-adobe-flash-player-on-ubuntu-904/
[15:27] <Pyam> I try to install ubuntu the last version
[15:27] <hoohaah> h00k: 500kbps isn't that much of a torrent in the first place :)
[15:28] <Nehyx> !ask | Pyam
[15:28] <Nehyx> ups, sorry, I want another one
[15:28] <Nehyx> Pyam: ask the question :)
[15:28] <Pyam> okej
[15:29] <Paddy_EIRE> Could anyone tell me why I am suddenly getting a gpg key error for this "http://ppa.launchpad.net jaunty Release" and how I would go about correcting it?
[15:29] <myself> i want to delete a color theme in Color Settings in Apperance - System Settings, but it says I don't have permission, and when i kdesudo it I naturally get the root settings which don't even have the color theme i want to delete
[15:29] <erUSUL> !gpgerr
[15:29] <cporter> I'm trying to run a perl script just after a new user logs in and creates their home folder. I referenced the perl script in .xsession with 'exec perl script.pl', but gnome then doesn't start up. Anyone know of another way to do this?
[15:29] <Pyam> I download  the last evrsion of ubuntu and burn it on a dvd . a restart my system and wait to ubuntu. when i choose the "install ubuntu" something somme an goes right and left. then i doesnt happen anything
[15:29] <The_Warlock_> guys any idea which takes up more sources gnome or kde?
[15:29] <bluefox83> hey, i'm running ubuntu 9.04 and for some reason i just got a message saying i should upgrade, the system wanted to do a partial upgrade, whats up with that?
[15:29] <cporter> The .xsession is in /etc/skel by the way.
[15:30] <The_Warlock_> s/sources/resources/
[15:30] <erUSUL> cporter: use .profile or .bashrc  ??
[15:30] <cporter> erUSUL, are those executed before or after gnome starts?
[15:30] <Pyam> I download the last evrsion of ubuntu and burn it on a dvd . a restart my system and wait to ubuntu. when i choose the "install ubuntu" something somme an goes right and left. then i doesnt happen anything
[15:30] <d1gital> thanks thiebaude
[15:31] <erUSUL> cporter: does the script needs graphics ?
[15:31] <thiebaude> d1gital: your flash works now?
[15:31] <cporter> No, but do I just do exec perl blash.pl at the end of one of those then?
[15:31] <d1gital> thiebaude: im trying it now 1 sec
[15:31] <thiebaude> ok
[15:31] <Pyam> I download the last evrsion of ubuntu and burn it on a dvd . a restart my system and wait to ubuntu. when i choose the "install ubuntu" something somme an goes right and left. then i doesnt happen anything
[15:32] <bryce-> yello
[15:33] <Pyam> I download the last evrsion of ubuntu and burn it on a dvd . a restart my system and wait to ubuntu. when i choose the "install ubuntu" something somme an goes right and left. then i doesnt happen anything
[15:33] <d1gital> thiebaude: works perfectly thanks =]
[15:34] <thiebaude> kewl
[15:34] <hoohaah> this room has bad acoustics
[15:34] <Nehyx> Pyam: please, don't repite the same question, you are not ignored ;)
[15:34] <fbc-mx> How do I make my desktop see nfs shares? I can mount the manually, bot not see them through the network browser.
[15:34] <thiebaude> d1gital: i think i'll save that web page
[15:34] <jhammit> Interested in setting up 9.04 for migrating around the computer menus without a mouse or pad, how do I get the UNDERLINE to display so I can do Alt - (plus) underlined letter to navigate.
[15:34] <stittel> Hi! On a notebook with an ATI Mobility Radeon X700 after installation of Ubuntu 9.04 the X-server only shows a basically black screen with flickering. According to X.org.log the "radeon" driver is used. Switching to fglrx is not an option, since the current fglrx version doesn't support this chipset anymore. Any ideas?
[15:35] <cporter> erUSUL, adding 'exec perl script.pl' to the end of .profile doesn't seem to work either
[15:35] <jussi01> stittel: have you looked at radeonhd if it supports it?
[15:35] <erUSUL> cporter: you do not need the exec in .profile
[15:35] <cporter> Oh
[15:36] <telofy> hi, can someone tell me what happened to uhci_hcd and ehci_hcd modules in jaunty? I just upgraded and need to deactivate usb 1.1 again, it makes a horrible high-pitched noise.
[15:36] <erUSUL> cporter: also is script in the users path ? if not you need to pass the whole path
[15:36] <erUSUL> script.pl
[15:36] <cporter> It's in ~/.startup/startup.pl
[15:36] <ShockF> Myrtti you still here ?
[15:37] <stittel> jussi01: Unfortunately it's not.
[15:37] <erUSUL> cporter: then you need to call it with the absolute path....
[15:37] <Pyam> Stiletto:  What should I do?
[15:37] <jhammit> When I press enter, my computer starts to smoke and send puffs of flame out the back - is this normal?
[15:37] <erUSUL> cporter: perl ~/.startup/startup.pl
[15:37] <erUSUL> cporter: and it is in all the user's homes ?
[15:37] <cporter> Ok, I wasn't sure if I needed to throw $USER in there
[15:37] <hoohaah> stittel: use an older version of fglrx
[15:37] <d1gital> i think lynx needs a flash plugin.
[15:38] <s0ftwar3> lol lynx
[15:38] <stittel> hoohaah: Not possible with the version of the X server shipped with Ubuntu 9.04.
[15:38] <cporter> erUSUL, well, I'm sure there's a better way of doing it, but I'm quickly testing for now
[15:38] <hoohaah> d1gital: i think not
[15:38] <cporter> erUSUL, it's also a one-time startup script
[15:38] <erUSUL> cporter: ok
[15:38] <d1gital> hoohaah: why not?  that would be great. convert everything to ASCII art realtime lmfao
[15:39] <hoohaah> stittel: it can be done, can't it? I remember seeing quite a few threads on it
[15:39] <ShockF> erusul ive tried using a live cd and when i press either install or the try option it seems to load and then the screen goes blank ive tried using the wubi installation it installs then when i select it from startup i get a message saying press esc for menu and with a countdown i wait till the countdown ends and it then says loading please wait and then the screen goes blank again any ideas what to do with with
[15:39] <erUSUL> !info libaa1
[15:39] <hoohaah> d1gital: dizzying
[15:39] <stittel> hoohaah: Thanks, I will check the forums.
[15:40] <civixier> Gah, I've tried to get a solution all day... I have a 9800gx2 with an acer x243w screen, maximum 1920x1200. All I get is 1024. I cant get higher in the settings and I dont know what to write in xorg.conf. Please help?
[15:40] <erUSUL> ShockF: trick maybe your screen does not support the modes the installer uses...
[15:40] <d1gital> noob question here but how do i add volume control to xfce panel
[15:40] <erUSUL> ShockF: maybe you can try to pass vga=xxx to the installer
[15:40] <erUSUL> !boot | ShockF
[15:41] <erUSUL> ShockF: vga=795 is 1024x800 if i recall correctly
[15:41] <gajop> ubuntu 9.04 is the newest stable version, right?
[15:41] <erUSUL> gajop: yes
[15:42] <ShockF> and how would i input that code erusul
[15:42] <gajop> i should be possible to mount the .iso on a linux host without needing to burn a cd?
[15:42] <gajop> s/i/it
[15:42] <erUSUL> ShockF: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
[15:42] <ShockF> kk
[15:42] <erUSUL> !iso | gajop
[15:42] <gajop> erUSUL: thanks :)
[15:44] <x1sc0> hello, i'm doing a dialog with a scroll, and I want to apply enter-notify-event to the dialog but when the mouse is on the scroll the window disappears, how can i avoid it ?
[15:45] <krammer_> how can i remove rpm fusion?
[15:45] <ShockF> erusul do you know what the 800x600 vga code is so i can try that jut incase the 795 doesnt work
[15:45] <bazhang> krammer_, ask in #fedora
[15:45] <krammer_> sorry
[15:46] <dimedo> any idea what would cause my scanner to stop while scanning or acquiring preview, but only when called via sane from anywhere but localhost. i know my scanner works fine locally, and i know it worked once without any problems even from other hosts. also strange was the fact that xsane on the host where the scanner is connected could not find any scanner until i enabled it to use the network backend on localhost.
[15:46] <civixier> I should have 1920x1200, I cant get higher than 1024x768. Please help
[15:46]  * d1gital didnt have xfce4-mixer installed....
[15:47] <winboard> winboard
[15:48] <Pici> x1sc0: Are you sure you're asking in the right channel? Perhaps someplace for the language you are programming in would be more appropriate?
[15:49] <zek152> how do I see what computers (ip addresses) are connected to my adhoc network
[15:49] <peanut034> hello
[15:49] <winboard> hallo wie geht es euch
[15:49] <Pici> !de | winboard
[15:50] <peanut034> I need some help installing nvidia drivers
[15:51] <rohit> peanut034, didn't you try installing via the Restricted Drivers thing ?
[15:51] <peanut034> could someone help me
[15:51] <peanut034> rohit: whats that?
[15:51] <peanut034> I downloaded the installer from nVidia's site
[15:51] <peanut034> but it says I need the package source
[15:51] <rohit> peanut034, System -> Administrator -> Hardware Drivers
[15:51] <peanut034> I mean, the kernel source
[15:52] <peanut034> I'm using 2.6.26-2_amd64
[15:52] <peanut034> it says it doesn't have a compiled module for my kernel
[15:52] <Titan8990> peanut034, do what rohit said
[15:52] <peanut034> so I apparently need the source package
[15:52] <rohit> peanut034, I don't have any experience with installing directly from nvidia's website however i installed my drivers via that thing
[15:52] <Pici> !enter | peanut034
[15:53] <halberd> I installed kde and kubuntu and I think I botched it somehow
[15:53] <halberd> but I can't uninstall everything
[15:53] <Titan8990> peanut034, otherwise install the drivers from synaptic, or install the kernel-headers for your version from synaptic
[15:53] <gartral> does anyone know of a website where i can temp. host a rather large image file? I have a screenshot of my background being "cut" by a black bar, websites in firefox do it too
[15:53] <Titan8990> peanut034, always use the package manager
[15:53] <halberd> I tried apt-get --auto-remove --purge purge kde
[15:53] <halberd> and the same thing for kubuntu-desktop
[15:53] <halberd> but I still have lots of kde apps installed
[15:53] <halberd> do I have to get rid of them one by one?
[15:53] <gartral> !enter | halberd
[15:53] <thiebaude> halberd: yes, i had too
[15:53] <bazhang> !puregnome | halberd
[15:54] <barbarella> gartral:what is large?
[15:54] <maco> gartral, if you just need to show a screenshot, imageshack.us or google for an imagebin (like pastebin for images)
[15:54] <gartral> barbarella: 1.5 mb to 33 mb
[15:54] <halberd> ubottu I doubt that apt get _install_ ubuntu-desktop will remove it
[15:54] <bazhang> halberd, read the bit before that
[15:54] <rohit> I think ubottu is awesome! :D
[15:54] <gartral> halberd: did you see the *first* half of that command>?
[15:54] <fbc-mx> How do I make my desktop see nfs shares? I can mount the manually, but not see them through the network browser.
[15:55] <halberd> yes, the first half looks like it just removes libraries
[15:55] <halberd> but I have kde apps installed like kate
[15:55] <bazhang> halberd, that is how it is done.
[15:55] <halberd> would the first half remove kate?
[15:55] <zek152> does anyone know how to see what ip adresses are connected to an adhoc network?
[15:55] <gartral> halberd: the libs are dependencies, removes them, and it will autoremove what linked too them
[15:55] <halberd> well I'll try it
[15:55] <_ruben> yes, because kate would depend on those libs
[15:55] <halberd> ok thanks
[15:56] <shambat> I want to check out a working copy using svn, but when I run: svn co http://blahblah I get a directory called trunk in the dir I want to download the fiels into...how can I get the files from trunk in my dir instead of the dir called trunk?
[15:56] <gartral> halberd: note: this proccess may take a *very* long time depending on your inet
[15:56] <gartral> oops
[15:56] <gartral> barbarella: 1.5 megs for the file I want to upload
[15:56] <frostburn> wtf happened to amarok, it's completely unusable now =(
[15:57] <Titan8990> shambat, svn co http:/foobar TheNameOfDirToSave
[15:58] <halberd> although what I actually want to do is, sudo apt-get --auto-remove --purge purge kdelibs4c2 kdelibs5-data
[15:58] <gartral> halberd: try that without two purge commands
[15:58] <Titan8990> halberd, sudo aptitude remove foobar
[15:59] <gartral> !foo
[15:59] <bieb> how do I sudo an X application?? I am in Kate copying and pasting different parts of a config file, and need to save it, but the regular user doesn't have rights to save to the same directory. In the past I have saved it to my home dir, then sudo'ed and copied it manually.. just trying to see if I can save a step
[15:59] <gartral> !foobar
[15:59] <halberd> and when I do that, it doesn't work because neither kdelibs4c2 or the other one is installed
[15:59] <jpds> !aptitude | Titan8990
[15:59] <chocobanana> bieb: in a terminal type sudo kate path/filename
[15:59] <gartral> halberd: then you have a deeper problem, almost every KDE package requires those libs
[16:00] <Titan8990> jpds, I know what it is, that is why I recommended it for his situation?
[16:00] <halberd> the extra --purge is to purge the ones that are auto-removed
[16:00] <Titan8990> halberd, pretty sure --purge clears config files
[16:00] <bieb> chocobanana: will that make Kate sudo'ed for any other files I open in it?
[16:00] <gartral> halberd: then flag it correctly, because i don't think Apt will understand it the way you've formatted it
[16:00] <halberd> yes I know Titan, that's what I want.. to remove every trace
[16:00] <Titan8990> halberd, aptitude will auto-remove dependencies by default
[16:00] <olavimmanuel> how to switch to ipv4?
[16:01] <halberd> gartral what was incorrect?
[16:01] <halberd> it didn't warn me about anything
[16:01] <Titan8990> halberd, nothing in the package manager will touch your home directory
[16:01] <chocobanana> bieb: as long as kate remains open and you open other files from withing kate. Once you close it, no more sudo
[16:01] <bieb> chocobanana: awesome.. thanks!!
[16:01] <gartral> halberd: just try it with a single purge, no flag
[16:01] <olavimmanuel> ! ipv4
[16:01] <chocobanana> bieb: you're welcome :)
[16:01] <gartral> sudo apt-get purge yadayada
[16:02] <olavimmanuel> ! inet6
[16:02] <gartral> !ipv6
[16:02] <halberd> no more luck gartral, libs just aren't installed
[16:02] <olavimmanuel> thanks gartral
[16:02] <gartral> halberd: try your *original* command with the single, unflagged, purge
[16:02] <halberd> gartral that's what I did
[16:03] <halberd> let me tell you the way this problem came to be--first I did apt-get install kde, then startx, and then i was in kde but I was stuck as root
[16:03] <halberd> so from within that session I did apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, and then I discovered that permissions on some of the config files it made were root
[16:04] <halberd> so that when I restarted the computer, I couldn't log in because it couldn't access them
[16:04] <Paddy_EIRE> !sudo | halberd
[16:04] <gartral> halberd: ok, try using that above command for those libs, but install them... not purge or remove
[16:05] <halberd> oh, you mean install them then remove them?
[16:05] <gartral> install, see if they help you, then if not, remove
[16:05] <bieb> anyone here good with Customizing menus? I am looking for a good how-to to create a custom menu... I want it to appear on the taskbar next to Applications and before Places...
[16:05] <gartral> !who | halberd
[16:05] <gartral> halberd: install, see if they help you, then if not, remove
[16:05] <halberd> okay ubottu
[16:06] <chocobanana> lol
[16:06] <halberd> oh right ubottu is the bot
[16:06] <gartral> !ubottu | halberd
[16:06] <gartral> halberd: yep, ubottu saves us from carpol tunnel
[16:06] <hemanth> is there any other way rather than VM to test package that is modified for the user requirement ?
[16:07] <chocobanana> bieb: unfortunately it is not possible to stick a custom menu between applications and places
[16:07] <zek152> I set up an adhoc connection. All three computers are connected. The windows machine can ping the 2 linux laptops. the 2 linux laptops can ping each other.  but neither linux laptop can ping the windows laptop.. Ideas?
[16:07] <gasquetfan> hi could someone help me with fixing the sound in Ubuntu.. Since I reinstalled Ubuntu 8.04 following a display failure with Ubuntu 9 I am not able to hear any sound.
[16:07] <gartral> zek152: is the windows firewall configured to allow pings? (if it has such a feature)
[16:07] <bieb> chocobanana: so I can only make it a submenu of Applications?
[16:08] <AceKing> bleb: did you try right clicking on "Applications" and clicking on "Edit Menus"?
[16:08] <gartral> bieb: are you trying to make your own menu class?
[16:08] <myself> i love you
[16:08] <halberd> oh, gartral what I need to remove is kdelibs4c2a
[16:08] <findfunaax1> !ubottu hello
[16:08] <zek152> zek152:  ill check that.
[16:08] <bazhang> !ot > myself
[16:08] <chocobanana> !hello
[16:09] <chocobanana> :D
[16:09] <gartral>  findfunaax1 its simply !hello
[16:09] <findfunaax1> !hello
[16:09] <ShockF> erusul ive just tryed vga=795 and it comes up with incorrect mode with an option to press enter to select a mode or space to continue ive tried enter and i have no idea what mode to pick
[16:09] <gartral> maco: neither alow the filesize i need
[16:09] <mikebeecham> hi there...is there any good "mactheripper"=type software for Linux?
[16:10] <hemanth> is there any other way rather than VM to test package that is modified for the user requirement ?
[16:10] <bieb> gartral: AceKing:  yeah I want to create a menu of apps for the school I work for, I am in the process of setting up and testing LTSP for one of our labs, there are currently a bunch of shortcuts on the win machines there, I figured if I can create a custom menu with all the shortcuts in it,  it would be nicer.
[16:10] <shambat> trying to add a user to be able to commit to the svn...should I change the group owner of the svn to e.g. "svn" and the add the user to that group?
[16:10] <maco> gartral, how'd you get an image that big? is it TIFF or something?
[16:10] <gartral> bieb: ahh, google for "custom content menu in gnome"
[16:11] <halberd> I have a new problem now, it's about to remove kde, but I am running currently in a konsole window managed by kde
[16:11] <gartral> maco: 1024x1280 monitor, 24bpp, png
[16:11] <bieb> gartral: thanks
[16:11] <olavimmanuel> gartral: its only for 8.04. None of them work, nor does the one in 9.04 troubleshooting
[16:11] <halberd> there may be a reprive however because I am in screen so I might be able to reattach it
[16:11] <gartral> maco: in fact, its that size no matter *what* file format i use!
[16:12] <maco> gartral, what's wrong with normal png? screenshots of about that size are < 100KB for me with normal png
[16:12] <maco> gartral, O_o are you using a screenshot program or a camera?
[16:13] <ShockF> gartral do you know what a the code would be to make my screen dispay the setup screen erusul told me vga=795 however i have a laptop so i wouldnt be connected by vga and also it says that vga=795 is the wrong mode any ideas
[16:14] <Paddy_EIRE> Hello maco
[16:14] <maco> Paddy_EIRE, hi
[16:15] <ShockF> maco
[16:15] <gartral> maco screenshot app, ShockF no idea, but I know most laptops do use VGA for their monitor link
[16:15] <Pici> !fb | ShockF there is a list here that may help
[16:15] <astra-x> Someone care to point out the main differences between GPL v2 and GPL v3?
[16:15] <Paddy_EIRE> !ot | astra-x
[16:16] <gartral> olavimmanuel: i dont know then
[16:16] <Paddy_EIRE> astra-x: you can read both licenses also.
[16:16] <olavimmanuel> gartral: ok. np :)
[16:16] <ShockF> thanks pici if this dont work i guess ill have to try the text based setup
[16:16] <gartral> olavimmanuel: your welcome, sorry I couldn't help more
[16:16] <olavimmanuel> gartral: thanks for trying :)
[16:17] <gartral> maco: my computer is just... odd
[16:17] <halberd> alright I installed kde-core, now I'll reboot
[16:17] <gartral> halberd: WAIT! you dont need too reboot
[16:17] <halberd> oh... I should ask, will installing kde-core give me a kde login?
[16:18] <Paulo39> hi ppl. i have ubuntu 9.04 with Gnome. But i add deb  http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu jaunty main to my  /etc/apt/sources.list because i want to have my amarok upgraded. my question is  where do i get the public key for this repo?
[16:18] <gartral> halberd: yes, it should, and just press alt-sys rq (aka print screen)-k
[16:18] <ShockF> ok my screen res is 1280 by 800 is there a code for this res as i can only see 1024 x 768 and 1280x 1024
[16:18] <halberd> I don't have a print screen button, it's a mac keyboard
[16:18] <hemanth> Sorry i'm not flooding , but i think u missed it ==>is there any other way rather than VM to test package that is modified for the user requirement ?
[16:19] <rascal999> is it possible to strip ubuntu down to <200mb
[16:19] <gartral> halberd: what do you have in it's place?
[16:19] <halberd> but what were you going to say earlier gartral about "don't reboot"
[16:19] <halberd> nothing gartral, there is no corresponding key
[16:20] <soreau> rascal999: Why would you want to do that?
[16:20] <olavimmanuel> Paulo39: www.keyserver.net
[16:20] <gartral> halberd: part of the linux philosphy is that you shoud *never* have too reboot your machine unless you have a kernal panic, alternativly, you can use zap to "quick reboot"
[16:20] <Le-Chuck_ITA> I used to have notifications for print jobs in jaunty (e.g. job sent, job finished, errors) now they are gone, anyone ideas?
[16:20] <halberd> gartral: I could plug in a MS keyboard through USB
[16:20] <bazhang> rascal999, get the minimal iso and add to it
[16:20] <rascal999> soreau, to make it it netbootable
[16:20] <bazhang> !minimal | rascal999
[16:20] <Le-Chuck_ITA> gartral: unless you upgrade the kernel
[16:20] <gartral> halberd: hold on, ill look for the equivlent
[16:21] <rascal999> i want ubuntu to be able to run diskless
[16:21] <rascal999> and be served via pxe
[16:21] <gartral> Le-Chuck_ITA: IIRC there's a way too reinit kernals as well... but that was years ago
[16:21] <soreau> rascal999: I could be wrong but I thought there was (a possibly easier) way to netboot ubuntu
[16:21] <cdavis_> Is there a good gui program for jaunty that allows me to backup to Amazon's S3 service?
[16:21] <Le-Chuck_ITA> gartral: not so much, it's the "kexec" system call, but that will replace everything just as a plain reboot :)
[16:21] <rascal999> soreau, you may mean install via network
[16:21] <regeya> rascal999: you might check the edubuntu docs; never done it, but I think they have stuff there
[16:21] <rascal999> i don't want to install
[16:22] <Le-Chuck_ITA> I think rascal999 wants a live system that boots via ethernet
[16:22] <soreau> rascal999: No, I mean boot via netboot
[16:22] <soreau> rascal999: I know someone who did it once, said it booted fast as hell
[16:22] <aar> Hi, what's the best way to do a cross-file PDF word search in Linux?
[16:23] <rascal999> soreau, so ubuntu is downloaded and ran as is, no installation needed
[16:23] <rascal999> i've done it with dsl and puppy, but i don't like them very much
[16:23] <soreau> rascal999: No idea, I never did it before
[16:23] <Le-Chuck_ITA> rascal999: http://www.google.com/search?hl=it&client=firefox-a&rls=com.ubuntu%3Ait%3Aunofficial&hs=Ari&q=a+live+ubuntu+system+that+boots+from+pxe&btnG=Cerca&lr=
[16:23] <zek152> Is there a way of viewing all the ip addresses connected to an adhoc network?
[16:23] <Paulo39> olavimmanuel: that page is down right now.. :(
[16:23] <Le-Chuck_ITA> rascal999: it seems like the first link is yours or am I wrong?
[16:23] <vvpalin> zel152: yes there is
[16:24] <halberd> gartral: well I'm going to do sudo startx now, if it doesn't work I might have to disconnect
[16:24] <mikebeecham> hi there...is there any good dvd ripping  software for Linux that allows me to take only the main feature Video_TS files?
[16:24] <ShockF> brb going to try some vga codes wish me luck
[16:24] <vvpalin> zek152: yes there is
[16:24] <gartral> halberd: are you in terminal now?
[16:24] <halberd> gartral: yes--if I disc I'll come back
[16:25] <rascal999> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1112209 exactly what i wanted, thankyou
[16:25] <orochi_> How much of an ordeal is it to change the user name of an account -after- it's been used for a lot of different stuff? I'd imagine that your user name gets tied into a lot of config files :>
[16:25] <zek152> vvpalin:  how?
[16:25] <gartral> maco: any sites that allow 1.5mb+ screen shots?
[16:25] <orochi_> I misspelled mine when I entered it and have been stuck with it ever since
[16:26] <Le-Chuck_ITA> rascal999: sometimes just acting like google understands questions is a good way to find answers :)
[16:26] <Lunnesia> Just a quick question (not inviting a flamewar) but...what is the advantage Ubuntu has over other OSs?
[16:27] <maco> gartral, seems to me the bigger issue is why are they that huge
[16:27] <Pici> Lunnesia: #ubuntu-offtopic would be a better place to discuss.  #ubuntu is support only, not discussion.
[16:27] <bazhang> !ot > Lunnesia
[16:27] <rascal999> Le-Chuck_ITA, i was searching and searching for that post but its only a week old
[16:27] <gartral> Lunnesia: possibly only the fact that it has such a huge support base
[16:27] <Lunnesia> Oops. Sorry, I didn't know about that, Pici. My bad :(
[16:27] <gartral> maco: probably because it's uncompressed data from my GFZ card
[16:27] <gartral> GFX*
[16:28] <SandGorgon> anybody using 64-bit ubuntu, have any idea about Firefox+flash support?
[16:28] <Le-Chuck_ITA> rascal999: np I just joked about how expressive the question has to be sometimes
[16:29] <gartral> maco: here's my lshw... http://gar.pastebin.com/f6ed1a2c4
[16:29] <TuxPurple> !wubi
[16:29] <silv3r_m00n> hi there
[16:29] <halberd__> gartral, well kde is running but I have the same problem: I'm root
[16:29] <TuxPurple> !hi | silv3r_m00n
[16:29] <halberd__> also I can't switch back to tty2, and I don't know how to resume my screen session
[16:29] <gartral> halberd__: did you sudo startx, or just startx?
[16:29] <halberd__> sudo startx
[16:29] <silv3r_m00n> when I select a native language in KDE regional settings....fonts like sans serif display the native characters....so how many languages does a font file contain ?
[16:30] <halberd__> oh is that the problem
[16:30] <JoelMcCracken> is there any way to get apt to install into ~bin, instead of system wide?
[16:30] <halberd__> I don't think that just startx works though, it says I don't have permission
[16:30] <gartral> halberd__: su <yourUserNameHere> startx
[16:31] <gartral> halberd__: are you running the server edition of Ubuntu?
[16:31] <halberd__> gartral, yes
[16:31] <halberd__> gartral, how can I get out of kde back to the terminal?
[16:32] <gartral> halberd__: ok, 1) why? 2) I don't think you'll *ever* get a non-rot graphical display manager from the Server Version
[16:32] <gartral> halberd__: sudo killall kdm
[16:32] <halberd__> ok
[16:32] <gartral> halberd__: try sudo kdm afterwards
[16:32] <Dr_Willis> perhaps --->   sudo service kdm start
[16:33] <arvind_khadri> halberd, what is it that you want to do ?
[16:33] <arvind_khadri> Dr_Willis, /etc/init.d/kdm start
[16:33] <gartral> Dr_Willis: sudo kdm *should* do the exact same thing
[16:33] <gangs20003> hey can someone please guide me through the creation of a bootable usb stick?ive already dloaded ubunto but the method to create the bootable drive given on the site seems complicated!i dont wanna screw up my comp!
[16:33] <Dr_Willis> arvind_khadri:  same thing. :)
[16:33] <Dr_Willis> gartral:  its nice to learn about the 'service' command. :)
[16:34] <arvind_khadri> Dr_Willis, service doesnt exist afaik , here.
[16:34] <Dr_Willis> gangs20003:  one way -> download 'unetbootin'  and run it. point it to the flash drive. and iso image.. and let it do its thing.
[16:34] <halberd__> gartral, no process has name kdm
[16:34] <Dr_Willis> $ service
[16:34] <Dr_Willis> Usage: service < option > | --status-all | [ service_name [ command | --full-restart ] ]
[16:34] <gartral> halberd__: try sudo killall startx
[16:34] <gartral> halberd__: try sudo kdm afterwards
[16:34] <Pici> arvind_khadri: actually it should exist since about 9.04, or perhaps earlier.
[16:34] <halberd__> gartral, I killed startx but I'm still in a GUI
[16:35] <Pici> gartral: I don't beleive that 'kdm' is in $path
[16:35] <frgr> hi, I just installed xubuntu on a macbook with german keyboard, wondering how to get the keyboard working correctly? i tried to use my xorg.conf from another debian system where it works, but not here :-(
[16:35] <gartral> Pici: sudo kdm works here
[16:35] <Paulo39> is there any danger in adding this repo: ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu to my GNOME? i have ubuntu 9.04
[16:35] <gartral> Pici: as does sudo gdm
[16:35] <blip99> hello, I noticed in the Software Sources menu of Synaptic, I have a 3rd party repo that goes by the url archive.canonical.com/ubuntu ... what exactly does this contain, is it an archive of old software perhaps ?
[16:35] <Paulo39> and i'm doing this to upgrade my amarok
[16:35] <arvind_khadri> Pici, oh :) i am in 8.10 and it doesnt...
[16:35] <cporter> erUSUL, you still around?
[16:36] <sparr> cleaning out my src/ before migrating files from my old /home to my new /home...  260000 files, 3GB.
[16:36] <arvind_khadri> gartral, btw its not a nice idea to run startx as root
[16:36] <halberd__> gartral, should I just start killing processes beginning with k until something cracks?
[16:37] <arvind_khadri> halberd, what is it that you want to achieve ?
[16:37] <maco> Paulo39, that's fine
[16:37] <halberd__> arvind_khadri, I'm trying to get out of kde back to a tty
[16:37] <maco> Paulo39, it's maintained by kubuntu developers and mixing kubuntu & ubuntu is just dandy
[16:37] <Psykopaten> anyone up for helping me with keysid configuration? (http://keysid.sourceforge.net/?s=3)
[16:38] <bluejeans> frgr, xorg is for your video card and has nothign to do with your keyboard
[16:38] <gartral> halberd__: get a MS style kb and use alt-sys rq-k
[16:38] <ozzer> I have a really weird problem with anything that plays audio content (rythmbox, youtube). It plays normally sometimes but occasionally just speeds up to about 3x normal speed. I have just today done a clean install of ubuntu and reinstalled flash player and the problem is still there. does anybody know what's wrong?
[16:38] <arvind_khadri> halberd, ctrl+alt+f1
[16:38] <cporter> Where should I put my perl script to have it execute immediately after a new /home folder is created? I've tried sticking 'perl script.pl' in .profile at the end, but it runs before the new home folder is created...
[16:38] <halberd__> arvind_khadri, that doesn't work, I don't know why
[16:38] <gartral> arvind_khadri: he's using a mac kb
[16:38] <cporter> In /etc/skel
[16:38] <halberd__> arvind_khadri, it works when I'm at a tty but not from within kde
[16:38] <halberd__> gartral, 1 moment
[16:39] <Psykopaten> during configuration you're supposed to strike the keys I want to use, but since I have striked enough keys, the program just halts.
[16:39] <arvind_khadri> halberd, other tty's ? check the logs to see why it is failing
[16:39] <olavimmanuel> gartral: i have to recompile the kernel as ipv6 now is in the kernel :s
[16:39] <arvind_khadri> gartral, oh ok...
[16:39] <gartral> olavimmanuel: what problem were you having again?
[16:39] <gangs20003> hey ill still have my xp right after i install ubunto from UNetbootin??
[16:39] <bash> lol after archlinux, a political group stoled the ubuntu logo XD
[16:40] <bash> uploads.trovanome.it/giovannimarasco.it/images/giovannimarasco_it_bkumbria_1241949545.gif
[16:40] <arvind_khadri> gangs20003, yes
[16:40] <gangs20003> thank you
[16:40] <halberd__> alt-print screen-k had no effect gartral
[16:40] <Dr_Willis> gangs20003:  i have pm's set to auto-ignore. :) and i had to go change diapers...
[16:40] <Pici> !offtopic | bash
[16:40] <Dr_Willis> gangs20003:  unetbootin is rather easy to use.  it can even download the iso image if you want.
[16:40] <ShockF> ok back and the neither vga codes worked except the one for 800x600 wihich worked but all i could see was an underscore anyother ideas ?
[16:40] <ozzer> I have a really weird problem with anything that plays audio content (rythmbox, youtube). It plays normally sometimes but occasionally just speeds up to about 3x normal speed. I have just today done a clean install of ubuntu and reinstalled flash player and the problem is still there. does anybody know what's wrong?
[16:40] <blip99> fooooooo
[16:41] <Pici> blip99: Are you done?
[16:41] <gartral> halberd__: alt-sysrq-r then ctrl-alt-delete (this WILL reboot your machine!)
[16:41] <halberd__> well why not just do shutdown -r then
[16:41] <halberd__> brb
[16:41] <gartral> halberd__: that too
[16:41] <Dr_Willis> gangs20003:  unetbootin is used to install a linux disto to a bootable 'flash' drive normally.   it can install any of several diffrent disrtos.
[16:42] <blip99> Pici: yeah, pretty much.
[16:42] <ShockF> Pici ive tried the vga codes and nothing should i download the alternate version of the install ? and try that
[16:43] <olavimmanuel> gartral: disable ipv6. im gonna set up vpn for use with my iphone (and cellular does not support ipv6)
[16:43] <cizra> Hi all. I tried the 9.04 alternate install CD. It didn't give me a choice for boot loaders, just installed LILO. Since when is LILO the default boot loader for Ubuntu?
[16:44] <myself> if i have the latest 9.04 ubuntu, what is my gnome called? what is the GTK version?
[16:44] <gartral> olavimmanuel: ipv4 and v6 should *both* work out of the box
[16:45] <Psykopaten> cizra : isnt't the alternate install CD for users having problemswith grub?
[16:45] <vajorie> myself: apt-cache show gnome
[16:45] <cizra> Psykopaten: Nope, the alternate install CD is for users who want to use LVM for root.
[16:45] <gartral> !show | vajorie
[16:45] <myself> okay
[16:45] <olavimmanuel> so openswan (ipsec) should automatically use ipv4 if ipv6 fails?
[16:45] <myself> thanks
[16:45] <gartral> !info gnome | vajorie
[16:46] <gartral> olavimmanuel: yes, in theory
[16:46] <olavimmanuel> gartral:  ok, ill just test it then :)
[16:46] <vajorie> gartral: don't have to ask it to ubottu with apt-cache ;)
[16:46] <hwilde> any suggestions on these errors: http://paste.ubuntu.com/191755/     hub 1-0:1.0: port 1 disabled by hub (EMI?), re-enabling...
[16:46] <Psykopaten> I think grub should be default, but alternate cd might not apply defaults
[16:47] <gartral> vagbut for those of us on finch, or irssi... its a mild pain too open a second terminal
[16:47] <Knirgh> gartral: Read up on screen :)
[16:48] <AGA> is slackware easy to istall in bios?
[16:48] <ozzer> so can anyone help me or not?
[16:48] <gartral> Psykopaten: the alternate install cd install the same packages as the normal cd, it just does so from a text installer to add a few more, and it can be used to upgrade an Ubuntu installation
[16:48] <Knirgh> ozzer: with what?
[16:48] <sipior> AGA: install...in bios?
[16:48] <Payam> #ubuntu-se
[16:48] <Psykopaten> gartral: thanks for the clarification
[16:48] <AGA> install just install
[16:48] <ford> hey all i am stuck atm with a ubuntu studio firewire issue (its not working)
[16:48] <supersasho> hi.. sometimes in arecord -l i don't have listed my usb webcam microphone, any idea why? it can be "repaired" by rebooting, but this is an anoying solution
[16:49] <ozzer> I have a really weird problem with anything that plays audio content (rythmbox, youtube). It plays normally sometimes but occasionally just speeds up to about 3x normal speed. I have just today done a clean install of ubuntu and reinstalled flash player and the problem is still there.
[16:49] <sipior> AGA: the answer is yes. this is an ubuntu channel though, so you might consider asking for details eslewhere :-)
[16:49] <gartral> ozzer: have you tryed using OSS instead?
[16:49] <thurston> Good day fellow UBUNTU-ites; I have fully installed Jaunty on my laptop and am at a point where I have no use for "Bill Gates". Is there anyway in which I can create a clone CD of my current installation and settings? I want to totally remove Mr. Gates from my laptop to save on space.
[16:49] <AGA> :@
[16:50] <ozzer> gartral: what's that and how do i get it
[16:50] <gartral> !oss | ozzer
[16:50] <halberd> back
[16:50] <gartral> ozzer: it's a different sound system, i find that pulse isn't realtime, and oss works better, you may have different experiences
[16:51] <halberd> gartral: sudo kdm doesn't work because it can't find kdm
[16:51] <Ddorda> how do i download a list of files with wget?
[16:51] <gartral> ozzer: you can get it by doing sudo apt-get install oss
[16:51] <gartral> halberd: sudo /init.d/kdm start
[16:52] <ozzer> gartral: okay i'll try that
[16:52] <sipior> Ddorda: have a look at the "-i" switch.
[16:52] <halberd> gartral: I have no /init.d directory
[16:52] <Knirgh> halberd: it's /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[16:52] <Knirgh> halbeard: still with sudo
[16:52] <Ddorda> sipior: thanks
[16:52] <anupamsps> i am getting a wired problem when i try to transfer 5gb+ movie file from my ubuntu workstation to my ext HDD, i am getting file size is too big error. any work around this error
[16:53] <gartral> halberd: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start
[16:53] <ozzer> gartral: Couldn't find package oss :P
[16:53] <sipior> anupamsps: what's the filesystem used on the target volume?
[16:53] <halberd> Knirgh: gartral no kdm there either
[16:54] <halberd> lemme try a find
[16:54] <anupamsps> fat32
[16:54] <halberd> a find turns nothing up
[16:54] <edbian> halberd: Did you install KDM ?  sudo apt-get install KDM?
[16:54] <gartral> halberd: try locate
[16:54] <sipior> anupamsps: the maximum file size on fat32 is 4gb. so, use a different filesystem :-)
[16:55] <halberd> I did not edbian , all I did was sudo apt-get kde-core
[16:55] <ozzer> gartral: went into sound preferences and changed everything to oss, gonna try see if that works
[16:55] <sipior> anupamsps: ntfs would work, for example.
[16:55] <pwasek08> what is a good program fro testing memory i have about 16gigs of ram on a core i7 processor
[16:55] <Payam> åååh my cock
[16:55] <gartral> ozzer: asoundconfig set-oss
[16:55] <anupamsps> ooh i didn't know that :(
[16:55] <edbian> halberd: I don't know if KDM is a dependent for kde-core.  My guess is no.  Try to install KDM see what happens.  Are you currently using GDM?
[16:55] <brabo> pwasek08 memtest86
[16:55] <halberd> lemme install it
[16:55] <halberd> no edbian just a tty
[16:55] <Knirgh> halberd: type ls /etc/init.d and pastebin output
[16:56] <dani_> Hello, I have serious MSN problems. Very often when I send a message, get my message in return with a notice that "The following message could not be delivered". Its really annoying. I am on wireless lan, signal is 90%.
[16:56] <pwasek08> using a bootcd
[16:56] <pwasek08> of ubuntu
[16:56] <pwasek08> what happens if its a 64bit version
[16:56] <brabo> i think the ubuntu livecd has memtest yes
[16:56] <halberd> pastebinning anything is awkward from terminal Knirgh
[16:56] <skinofstars1> dani_: it's never gonna be as good as windows live messenger
[16:56] <gartral> !language | Payam
[16:56] <ozzer> gartral: asoundconfig command not found
[16:56] <Nationiant> Hey
[16:56] <brabo> halberd use pastebinit
[16:56] <Payam> I know
[16:57] <gartral> ozzer: odd
[16:57] <Payam> but i just hurts
[16:57] <edbian> halberd: Did the install work or not?
[16:57] <pwasek08> i ran the regular 86memtest and nothing
[16:57] <gartral> Payam: then why break the rule?
[16:57] <Payam> What tules?
[16:57] <sipior> Payam: shhh. the adults would like to have a conversation.
[16:57] <Nationiant> I have an analog TV card, and PS2 connected that to it's composite plug-in. How can I watch the PS2
[16:57] <gartral> Payam: then go to the hospital
[16:57] <Payam> No
[16:57] <Payam> It costs me alot
[16:57] <ozzer> dani_: are you using pidgin cos i got that problem. try amsn it's much better
[16:58] <halberd> okay well I launched kdm
[16:58] <dani_> ozzer: tried both amsn and pidgin. Same problem occurs in both.
[16:58] <edbian> halberd: You got it to work??  Awesome!
[16:58] <thurston> Guys, please help. I have fully installed Jaunty on my laptop and am at a point where I have no use for "Bill Gates". Is there anyway in which I can create a clone CD of my current installation and settings? I want to totally remove Mr. Gates from my laptop to save on space.
[16:58] <halberd> using /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[16:58] <halberd> but no it doesn't really work, I'm just at a terminal again
[16:58] <halberd> there was an error loading kde and it put me in a default mode with no menus or anything just a konsole
[16:58] <edbian> halberd: What do you mean you launched it then?  Did it crash?
[16:58] <uber_noober> how can I rename multiple files using cli? for instance i have filename1.txt filename2.txt and so on and I want to rename them 001.txt 002.txt etc
[16:59] <edbian> halberd: What were the error?
[16:59] <Knirgh> halberd: doest the output say it successfully started kdm?
[16:59] <edbian> (s)
[16:59] <halberd> let me do it again and I'll tell you
[16:59] <edbian> k
[16:59] <halberd> exit
[16:59] <halberd> whoops
[16:59] <edbian> lol
[16:59] <schwarz_p> thurston: doesn't system>Administration>create USB-startup disk work? (not sure about the terms, i use ubuntu in dutch)
[16:59] <ozzer> dani_: odd, i get it in both but a lot less in aMSN. don't know how to fix it.
[16:59] <gartral> hlablet edbian take over, you're outside my understandinmg in display managers
[16:59] <edbian> k
[17:00] <dani_> ozzer: you also get that delivery failure notice?
[17:00] <Nationiant> I have an analog TV card, and PS2 connected that to it's composite plug-in. How can I watch the PS2
[17:00] <dani_> ozzer: are you on wireless or wired?
[17:00] <edbian> thurston: You can repartition and simply erase the windows parition without "cloning" any CD's
[17:00] <edbian> thurston: Be more specific.  What are you trying to do??
[17:01] <L3dPlatedLinux> hey was wondering is there a way to make a flv video play as a screensaver?
[17:01] <ozzer> dani_: could not send message due to server timeout error is the one i get and sometimes i get a different one but that's less frequent. although when i get it i can still see incoming messages
[17:01] <hasta2003> hi, I'm in toubles with Gmail. I can log in, but I can't do anymore because it freezes and give me an error (use the previous gmail version or the HTML one). All goes ok with Vista. Ubuntu 9.04 Mozilla Firefox 3.0.10. How can I workaround? Thanks
[17:01] <thurston> edbian: can I do this from within UBUNTU?
[17:02] <dani_> ozzer: are you on wired or wireless?
[17:02] <podedinov> qw
[17:02] <edbian> thurston: You can delete the paritions that are not mounted from any OS.  Do you understand or should I elaborate?
[17:02] <gartral> ozzer, everything ok now?
[17:02] <ozzer> dani_: wireless, signal varies between 60 and 70 %
[17:02] <dani_> ozzer: in my experience, my buddy still recieves some of the messages that is being sent in return with error. But only some of them, so I actually never know if they recieved certain messages
[17:03] <thurston> edbian: I understand. I will try this and if I pick up any problems, I will come back here. Thanks.
[17:03] <halberd_> okay
[17:03] <ozzer> gartral: better, still speeding up for the odd second but slows down again fairly quickly. not unusable any more
[17:03] <halberd_> the error is, dcopserver wasn't started
[17:03] <edbian> thurston: Good luck!
[17:03] <dani_> ozzer: i have between 60-99%, think that should be good enough...
[17:03] <edbian> halberd_: What happens if you run startx ??
[17:03] <thurston> edbian: Ta :)
[17:04] <tdn> I have a desktop computer on a local network. There is a DHCP server, but I do not want to use it. How do I configure a static IP in Ubuntu for this machine?
[17:04] <halberd_> edbian if I run startx it works but I become root
[17:04] <edbian> halberd_: Are you logged in as yourself??
[17:04] <sparr> does gnome have an editor similar to kate (with a terminal, syntax highlighting, etc)?
[17:04] <halberd_> now I am edbian
[17:04] <ozzer> dani_: If I use windows it thinks the signal is about 10% but it works all the time :P it's just weird
[17:04] <gartral> ozzer: join the reest of the people who think pulse is completly borked in Ubuntu! :)
[17:04] <edbian> halberd_: You're me?
[17:04] <kabdotinfo> kate is grate
[17:05] <halberd_> edbian: heh, I meant, "now I am, edbian"
[17:05] <L3dPlatedLinux> hey was wondering is there a way to make a flv video play as a screensaver?
[17:05] <gartral> kate is SLOW
[17:05] <ozzer> gartral: what's the difference between them?
[17:05] <halberd_> edbian: I mean I'm logged in as me
[17:05] <shynthriir> my internet has been acting weird too on my laptop -- wireless -- always am getting a really weak signal, even if i' right next to the router
[17:05] <edbian> halberd_: Oh ok, haha.  Hang on I am not sure about that error.  Lemme think
[17:05] <ozzer> gartral: and why isn't the one that works default?
[17:05] <dani_> ozzer: windows live messenger is stable here as well
[17:05] <ionine_> DCC SEND ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZLOLOLOLOLLLLOOOLOLL
[17:05] <tdn> How do I configure my desktop computer to use a static IP address instead of the one provided from DHCP?
[17:06] <gartral> ozzer: pulse is more extensable... but oss is know to be a bit more stable... oss is also legally restricted somehow... so it doesnt ship with Ubuntu OTB
[17:06] <edbian> halberd_: try starting dcopserver (sudo /etc/init.d/dcopserver start)
[17:06] <edbian> halberd_: Did you reboot the computer?  Does KDM come up?
[17:06] <L3dPlatedLinux> and or is there a way to take a bunch of flv vids and makem one?
[17:07] <gartral> maco:  automatically build a Debian package of Google Earth
[17:07] <epaphus> Hello, anybody know where pidgin saves the history files?
[17:07] <gartral> maco: http://g.imagehost.org/view/0994/Screenshot
[17:07] <stormy2k> Hey, anyone else got Problems with Quod Libet under Jaunty? I can't play mp3-files, though alll codecs are installed. The files work under Exaile and Listen
[17:09] <halberd_> edbian I am getting the same problems I got before
[17:09] <halberd_> before I uninstalled kde and tried again
[17:09] <edbian> halberd_: What did you try and what are the problems?
[17:10] <halberd_> edbian I get the error about dcopserver when I try to start with the limited mode in kde
[17:10] <edbian> halberd_: Are you install "kde" or "kubuntu-desktop"
[17:10] <halberd_> and I get a different error (that it doesn't have permissions for ~/.ICEauthority) when I try to start with the full mode in kde
[17:10] <halberd_> edbian I installed kde-core
[17:10] <halberd_> edbian but the last time, I installed both kde and kubuntu-desktop
[17:10] <gartral> how do i make a normal, persistent copybuffer, like windows has... this "select+middle click"  crud is ANNOYING
[17:10] <Offoffoff> hello, guys!
[17:10] <edbian> and you got the same errors?
[17:10] <halberd_> edbian yes
[17:11] <Knirgh> gartral: ctrl+c is already escape sequence
[17:11] <halberd_> edbian if I change permissions on ~/.ICEauthority it gives me another error, I could check and find out what it is if you want
[17:11] <edbian> halberd_: 1st things 1st.  the error regarding ~/.ICEauthority
[17:12] <gartral> Knirgh: yea, but if i close firefox or whatever im copying from, the buffer is cleaerd, how do i make it *persistent*?
[17:12] <eurythmia> gartral, ctrl+c and ctrl+v works as well too.
[17:12] <halberd_> edbian well actually what I mean is, chown, because it's owned by root
[17:12] <edbian> halberd_: It doesn't matter what it is you should have read/write permissions to everything in your home folder.
[17:12] <halberd_> edbian and needs to be owned by me
[17:12] <gartral> eurythmia: see the post to Knirgh
[17:12] <halberd_> edbian can you think of a reason why .ICEauthority would be owned by root?
[17:13] <eurythmia> gartral, interesting. I've never had that problem before.
[17:13] <edbian> halberd_: run sudo chown -R halberd /home/halberd
[17:13] <epaphus> Hello, anybody know where pidgin saves the history files?
[17:13] <eurythmia> gartral, then again, klipper takes care of my clipboard. *is a kde user*
[17:13] <halberd_> edbian yeah I'll do that (and did that the last time) but I get a different problem then on launching kde, 1 moment
[17:13] <Knirgh> halberd_: it was probably because u started kde as root and it generated that file
[17:13] <edbian> halberd_: One time I mounted my debian /home with a fedora install and it changed all of the permissions in my home folder because fedora starts UID's at 500 and debian / ubuntu starts them at 100
[17:13] <edbian> halberd_: Ok
[17:14] <gartral> eurythmia: its left over from intrepid... how do i make it a  normal copy buffer, or what decent clipboard managers are there/
[17:14] <TT> hi where is the german channel?
[17:14] <gartral> !german | TT
[17:14] <w0ls0n> wish my boss would go away so I could finish my movie
[17:14] <edbian> halberd_: See my personal message?
[17:14] <eurythmia> gartral, I'm not entirely sure. As I said, I use kde, and klipper does its job well for me; I don't know about any others. Wish I could help any more than that.
[17:15] <gartral> !clipboard
[17:15] <halberd_> edbian: crap now it's working! thanks... I guess last time I only did chown -R me ~/.ICEauthority
[17:15] <TT> gartral: danke
[17:15] <halberd_> edbian now I'm logged in to kde as me
[17:16] <edbian> halberd_: Awesome!
[17:16] <edbian> halberd_: Glad I could help.  Strange how your /home got permissions changed huh.
[17:16] <halberd_> edbian but the test is now, will it work this well when I reboot and login from the gui?
[17:16] <thurston> edbian: Thanks for your help. I have deleted the unwanted partition. Now I need to resize one of my existing partitions to use this newly unallocated space. The option to resize/move is grayed out. I am running the "partition editor" with gksu.
[17:16] <edbian> halberd_: Hopefully I'll be here if you need more help
[17:17] <halberd_> edbian or will it bring up a gui login at all
[17:17] <halberd_> edbian I'm guessing it won't by default
[17:17] <edbian> halberd_: It should (i'm not positive) if it doesn't let me know I will teach you how to make it.
[17:17] <halberd_> edbian and I'm guessing that if I do another /etc/init.d/kdm restart, it will create another .ICEauthority owned by root
[17:17] <halberd_> edbian but we'll see, brb
[17:18] <edbian> halberd_: You shouldn't need to run that command ever again.  Even so it should not mess with home folder permissions
[17:18] <tdn> How do I configure my desktop computer to use a static IP address instead of the one provided from DHCP? I'm Using Ubuntu Desktop 8.04.
[17:18] <edbian> thurston: Yeah remember that bit about not being able to change parititons that you're mounted on??
[17:18] <Dr_Willis> !static
[17:18] <Knirgh> thurston: you cannot rezise partiontions that you have mounted, you should get gparted livecd
[17:18] <cporter> Does Ubuntu support .gnomerc?
[17:18] <edbian> thurston: Well right now you're mounted on your root parition
[17:18] <evanrmurphy> XChat question: Is there a way to automatically identify your nick?
[17:19] <soreau> tdn: Look in Sys>Prefs>Network Connections
[17:19] <cporter> evanmurphy, add your password in the server settings
[17:19] <edbian> thurston: You there??
[17:19] <gartral> eurythmia: glipper!
[17:19] <IamSOG> anyone tried the firestarter firewall?
[17:19] <soreau> tdn: Assuming you just have eth0, Edit and select it to use Static instead of DHCP
[17:19] <evanrmurphy> cporter: thanks!
[17:20] <Rabbitbunny> how can i mount an iso without burning it? mount /file.iso /dev/cdrom ?
[17:20] <gartral> !firestarter | IamSOG
[17:20] <jthomas> what's the easiest way to set up a vpn on linux?
[17:20] <thurston> edbian: The partitions I am trying to work on are not mounted.
[17:20] <eurythmia> gartral, that's actually a package?
[17:20] <evanrmurphy> cporter: Is it better to make it the nickserv password or server password, or does it make no difference?
[17:20] <gartral> !info glipper | eurythmia
[17:20] <tdn> soreau, ok.
[17:20] <edbian> thurston: Your root parition is not mounted?  Are you running a live CD ?
[17:21] <cporter> evanmurphy, needs to be nickserv
[17:21] <IamSOG> thanks gartral
[17:21] <gartral> IamSOG: np
[17:21] <cporter> evanmurphy, the other is the password to actually connect to the server
[17:21] <tdn> soreau, I need this to work for ALL users.
[17:21] <evanrmurphy> cporter: thanks again
[17:21] <tdn> soreau, also when no user is logged in?
[17:21] <eurythmia> gartral, well, there you go ... hep it does what you want/need :)
[17:22] <edbian> Rabbitbunny: you don't have to mount it to a cdrom you can mount it to any file in the filesystem (one that is empy works best).  Although I am not sure you can mount an iso that way.
[17:22] <thurston> edbian: I am not trying to resize the root partition, I had another partition that I use purely for saving stuff. It is not always mounted.
[17:22] <anupamsps> how to use cd "this is a long dir name" in sftp?
[17:22] <Dr_Willis> anupamsps:  with spaces either escape the spaces, or use quotes, (' or " )
[17:22] <soreau> tdn: In that case you might want to use ifconfig. For instance, sudo ifconfig eth0 <ip>
[17:23] <gartral> brb
[17:23] <edbian> thurston: Give me a more detailed explanation of what you're trying to do.  How big is the harddrive.  What is the order and respective sizes of the paritions now.  What are you trying to achieve?
[17:23] <anupamsps> sorry i didn't get Dr_Willis:(
[17:23] <edbian> thurston: What are the formats of the partitions?
[17:23] <gartral> glipper fixed it!
[17:23] <soreau> tdn: There are some config files in /etc you can have it use static over dhcp (for 'global' use) but not sure exactly how to set it up off hand
[17:24] <bparkis> who was I talking to?
[17:24] <thurston> edbian: NTFS and the now unallocated space.
[17:24] <Dr_Willis> anupamsps:   cd 'this is a directory with silly spaces in its name'
[17:24] <bparkis> edbian, thanks
[17:24] <Rabbitbunny> edbian: Thanks
[17:24] <anupamsps> this will work in sftp?
[17:24] <bparkis> edbian it's working just about as advertised now
[17:24] <rozer> how to restore software by aptoncd tool in ubuntu ?
[17:24] <edbian> bparkis: I am not sure for what but you're welcome
[17:24] <Dr_Willis> anupamsps:  try it and see?
[17:24] <znh> Hello :)
[17:24] <edbian> Rabbitbunny: You're welcome
[17:25] <bparkis> well edbian you suggested that I chown on my whole home directory instead of just .ICEauthority
[17:25] <znh> I'm using Ubuntu daily on this USB stick.. It's cool but it doesn't keep any changes. Is it possible to keep changes?
[17:25] <edbian> thurston: All you have is NTFS and unallocated?  You don't have EXT3 where is ubuntu?
[17:25] <cabrey> znh, no it is a live system
[17:25] <anupamsps> ok thanks
[17:25] <edbian> bparkis: You changed your nick!!  You're welcome
[17:25] <bparkis> oh! dangit
[17:25] <edbian> he he
[17:25] <edbian> no worries
[17:25] <Dr_Willis> znh:  there is the usb-disk creator tool in ubuntu that can make a bootable thumbdrive that can keep changes.  but you need to boot ubuntu to use the tool. :)
[17:25] <bparkis> no I just am using graphical xchat and it logged me in as this
[17:26] <znh> does anyone have a more intelligent answer than cabrey
[17:26] <Dr_Willis> znh:  also the  pendrivelinux.com site has info on doing it from widnows
[17:26] <edbian> znh: Yes you can!
[17:26] <space_cadet> i need a command that will find what three users have the most processes running in unix (sunOS)
[17:26] <rafase282> Hello, can anyone help me create a usb ubuntu 9.04 persistent?
[17:26] <edbian> cabrey: puppy linux does it automatically I'm sure it can be done with a usb stick
[17:26] <gartral> !unetbootin
[17:27] <thurston> edbian: Sorry about that my message got truncated. Two NTFS, Extended, ext3, linux-swap, two unallocated.
[17:27] <cabrey> edbian, he wanted ubuntu and the usb-creator only makes a live system
[17:27] <mf_> anyone have a description of how to set up a raw queue with cups-pdf? the current setup turns all text into rasterized images..
[17:27] <gartral> im outta here, i wanna watch a movie
[17:28] <rozer> after click on restore is there anuthing that i have to do ?
[17:28] <andy_js> whats the 'official' way to rebuild gcc?
[17:28] <edbian> cabrey: The only reason live-systems don't save your changes is becuase you can't write to a CD.  (You actually can with CD-RW and USB sticks).  I am not sure how to do it with ubuntu but I have done it with puppy (both media) and it is the same concept
[17:28] <space_cadet> cabrey did he want a persistent USB ubuntu?
[17:28] <rafase282> okay thanks for the link, but if I add some programs like jdk, git, python 2.4, eclipse and the whole android sdk. will it save the changes or it just save what you have on home?
[17:28] <raziekiel> server irc.rizon.net
[17:28] <edbian> thurston: And you want it to look like what when you're done?  Are the partitons in that order?
[17:28] <rafase282> I'm trying to make a iso with the sdk and everything on it already for android developerrs
[17:29] <rafase282> developers*
[17:29] <space_cadet> edbian   prolly the same method...
[17:29] <cabrey> edbian, i know that, but i'm just saying you can't change the entire structure of the system with a 'pwetty pwease'
[17:29] <sipior> edbian: cabrey: last time i used the ubuntu usb stick creator, it gave me the option to reserve space for permanent user data.
[17:29] <space_cadet> yep
[17:29] <mmm4m5m> Hi. One question please: is there any program (﻿gnome) which act as a frame or parent window for other applications. Like a frame window which is split (horizontal and vertical) in 4 areas - one for terminal, another for file manager and so on. We have so many options to overlap all windows/applications. I just want to be able to stick few applications together without overlapping.
[17:29] <cabrey> sipior, thats different from saving changes ;)
[17:29] <space_cadet> sipior  actually it is really simple to create a persistent usb ubuntu
[17:29] <edbian> space_cadet: puppy asks you when you shut down after each session if you want to save your files (changes)
[17:30] <lostson> mmm4m5m: yep its called xmonad and it replaces metacity
[17:30] <sipior> cabrey: you can change files on the usb stick as much as you'd like.
[17:30] <space_cadet> cabrey, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent
[17:30] <rafase282> well i went to the usual site but now they only have windows version for the recent distro of ubntu
[17:30] <rafase282> and idk how to use slax
[17:30] <edbian> thurston: Did you see me last question?
[17:30] <mmm4m5m> lostson: thanks, of you have more hints, please tell :) - I will check all.
[17:30] <edbian> thurston: you want it to look like what when you're done?  Are the partitons in that order?
[17:30] <space_cadet> does anyone know a unix command to find the three users with the most processes running?
[17:31] <lostson> mmm4m5m: check here http://xmonad.org/ for all the info you need
[17:31] <thurston> edbian: I want to join the unallocated to the NTFS. This to form one larger partition.
[17:31] <Dr_Willis> space_cadet:  htop/top can do that  some how i imagine.
[17:31] <ActionParsnip> hey all. I'm having issues with Transmission. I can't log onto the web interface. I have set a username and password and removed the access restriction IP so it should be accessible from anywhere but i can't even log on from localhost
[17:31] <space_cadet> Dr_Willis, yes.. i got that far...  but...
[17:31] <cabrey> sipior, what i am trying to say is that the usb system acts exactly like  a live cd. it will only makes changes in the ram regardless of whether you can writee back to the medium
[17:31]  * space_cadet looks around        
[17:31] <edbian> thurston: That will require many steps.  1st question.  Do you need that data that is on any of these partitions?
[17:31] <space_cadet> what next?
[17:31] <irc-anope> Hello
[17:32] <space_cadet> cabrey, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent
[17:32] <irc-anope> I am having problems makin a simple bot work on my xchat
[17:32] <irc-anope> Can anyone help me
[17:32] <Dr_Willis> ActionParsnip:  try the 'view web interface button'? it works here.. Ugly but it works. :)
[17:32] <Jomyoot_> where may I find more cutting edge mysql packages for ubuntu?
[17:32] <space_cadet> cabrey, unless you say... save to disk
[17:32] <Jomyoot_> is there a private distribution?
[17:32] <trask4> so is karmic ready for use yet?
[17:33] <irc-anope> when i install POE and POE Components
[17:33] <Dr_Willis> trask4:  i would say no.
[17:33] <thurston> edbian: I still need the data on the NTFS.
[17:33] <space_cadet> trask4, ask in #ubuntu+1
[17:33] <sipior> cabrey: from release 8.10, this is simply not true.
[17:33] <irc-anope> it still not solve it
[17:33] <edbian> thurston: (and the EXT3) do you have 2 NTFS paritions in an extension?
[17:33] <bparkis> next on my list of todos:  why is it so slow to connect to a wireless network?
[17:33] <trask4> space_cadet: Dr_Willis, ty
[17:33] <cabrey> sipior, and yet it has never saved changes for me...
[17:33] <bparkis> I set iwconfig wlan0 essid belkin54g
[17:33] <bparkis> and it takes like 1 or 2 minutes before it connects
[17:33] <rafase282> well i have no audio on my laptop for 9.04
[17:34] <rafase282> used to have it on previous verisona nd other linux that i run from cds
[17:34] <bparkis> what might be causing that?
[17:34] <edbian> sipior: cabrey I think that it will only save changes that were made in the home folder.
[17:34] <rafase282> i may have to reinstall the OS idk
[17:34] <thurston> edbian: I am still a newbie, what do you mean by extension.
[17:34] <rafase282> i tried to solve it before but coudl not get help
[17:35] <sipior> cabrey: i suggest trying again.
[17:35] <space_cadet> edbian, that would mean that when I use my usb persistent ubuntu install, i wouldn't be able to install things... which i can
[17:35] <space_cadet> edbian   like compiz, the nVidia drivers
[17:35] <uber_noober> anyone good with renaming batch files? need to add a consecutive sequence of numbers as a prefix to multiple files
[17:35] <space_cadet> etcf
[17:35] <cabrey> edbian, yes! my point is that no matter what it is still a live system
[17:35] <edbian> thurston: A typical harddrive can only hold 4 primary paritions.  You can create these logical extentions that can hold many more paritions if you need more than four.
[17:35] <cabrey> anyways moving on...
[17:36] <edbian> space_cadet: Maybe there is some trickery behind the scenes for package installation??
[17:36] <irc-anope> hey cabrey
[17:36]  * Nehyx is away: ZZZzzzZZZzzz
[17:36] <Dr_Willis> You can set up a 'live usb system' of ubuntu with a persistant save file.   some time it can be a little flakey in what changes it 'saves' however.
[17:36] <cabrey> irc-anope, ?
[17:36] <bparkis> what's the name of the gde wireless configuration program?
[17:36] <edbian> space_cadet: I never thought of that.  Saving the home dir is simply what I thought was happening (my own personal theory sorta lol)  We shoud probably do a google search and stop bickering.  Is the original poster even paying attention to us anymore?
[17:36] <irc-anope> Cabrey can you help with simple bot
[17:37] <irc-anope> i tried to set this bot
[17:37] <bparkis> kwifimanager
[17:37] <irc-anope> it needed POE and POE components
[17:37] <irc-anope> i install them
[17:37] <cabrey> irc-anope, what are you talking about?
[17:37] <edbian> thurston: Do you understand?
[17:37] <rferroni> hi
[17:37] <mmm4m5m> lostson: it is a different, it is win. manager... it is not like parent window where you can drag any other window (minimize all together). And everything else to be default (with overlaping)
[17:37] <rferroni> who
[17:37] <V3G4RD> hi, does anyone know about an another chat client? sorry my bad english btw, im bored of pidgin and amsn...
[17:38] <irc-anope> Cabbrey,  i need help with install simple bot on ubuntu
[17:38] <cabrey> V3G4RD, empathy is another one
[17:38] <irc-anope> i am using xchat
[17:38] <V3G4RD> ty :P
[17:38] <irc-anope> but the bot don't seem to work
[17:38] <cabrey> irc-anope, an irc bot? i'm not an irc expert you might want to try someone else
[17:38] <irc-anope> oh ok
[17:38] <Myrtti> V3G4RD: irssi offers extensive ways of configuring ;-)
[17:38] <pley> hey
[17:39] <edbian> irc-anope: Don't use the enter key soo much.
[17:39] <cabrey> Myrtti, i thought he meant like an aim/msn/jabber/etc client
[17:39] <rferroni> exit
[17:39] <rferroni> je
[17:39] <irc-anope> cabrey how?
[17:39] <V3G4RD> ok, thx :)
[17:39] <Myrtti> cabrey: bitlbee can do that for any IRC client ;-)
[17:40] <cabrey> Myrtti, ahh so you only need irssi
[17:40] <bparkis> is there any way to tune the mouse so that it moves slowly and precisely over short distances, but is fast over large distances?
[17:41] <edbian> bparkis: Slow accelartion, high top speed.
[17:41] <bparkis> is it possible to mount hfsplus writable?
[17:41] <asurasenkuu> asurasenkuu
[17:41] <Dr_Willis> !hfs
[17:41] <linuxnub> hiya its your fav nub here again, i have urbanterror d/l and i can run it under win but ho do i run under ubuntu direct?
[17:41] <asurasenkuu> ?
[17:41] <asurasenkuu> hi im new
[17:41] <edbian> bparkis: I would imagine that high sensitivity but low acceluration would achieve the same thing.
[17:42] <edbian> asurasenkuu: What up, yo.
[17:42] <Dr_Willis> linuxnub:  theres linux native urban terror clients you download/install
[17:42] <thurston> edbian: I understand. How do I create a gparted live CD?
[17:42] <Dr_Willis> !games
[17:42] <edbian> thurston: ubuntu has gparted on it. do you already have that live Cd lying around?
[17:42] <linuxnub> Dr_Willis i thought so and im sure thats the one i have but will look again
[17:42] <bparkis> how do I tune sensitivity or top speed?
[17:43] <edbian> bparkis: Are you on gnome?
[17:43] <bparkis> oh, pointer threshold!
[17:43] <edbian> bparkis: System -> preferences -> mouse
[17:43] <bparkis> no edbian I got kde working, with your help
[17:43] <thurston> edbian: My battery has died, can we do this again tomorrow, Please?
[17:44] <Dr_Willis> linuxnub: http://www.forums.urbanterror.net/index.php/topic,8165.0.html
[17:44] <edbian> thurston: NP!
[17:44] <pley> hey
[17:44] <edbian> I'm on often.  Just keep checking I'll probably be here :)
[17:44] <edbian> pley: Hey
[17:44] <thurston> edbian: ta.
[17:44] <irc-anope> Hey Dr_willis
[17:45] <bparkis> well this is just fantastic, stuff is working all over the place
[17:45] <Dr_Willis> irc-anope:  Hmm?
[17:46] <Rabbitbunny> anyone know of some terminal code to play an audio CD? soundjuicer and rhythmbox both stall with no audio
[17:46] <irc-anope> I need install simple bot on xchat
[17:46] <linuxnub> cheers Dr_Willis
[17:46] <edbian> Rabbitbunny: mplayer is cli based
[17:46] <arash_> my tablet has a weird issue. whenever i close my screen but my os is running, my mouse jumps all over the screen and I think it randomly clicks stuff. is there a tool i can install to track mouse movement? i am wondering whether this is a driver issue or a hardware issue
[17:46] <Rabbitbunny> edbian: Thanks
[17:46] <irc-anope> Do you know about bots?
[17:46] <edbian> irc-anope: Who are you asking?
[17:47] <alhanoglu> selam
[17:47] <alhanoglu> selam
[17:47] <irc-anope> I am actually asking Dr_willis but if you can help me i wouldn't mind
[17:47] <irc-anope> edbian
[17:47] <rferroni> quit
[17:47] <Dr_Willis> irc-anope:  go read the xchat homepage/docs/forumns i guess..   I dont use botx in xchat.. if i did need a bot id use irssi, or a dedicated bot.
[17:47] <edbian> irc-anope: You should just throw your question out there directed at the group instead of picking individuals to ask.  try: "Does anybody know how to set up an IRC bot?"  Also try google.  He knows more than any of the rest of us.
[17:48] <V3G4RD> Hi again, im new at ubuntu, and it sais that i need "gettext support in your C library" (?)
[17:49] <irc-anope> Dr_willis: so technically you are saying bot is not for xchat
[17:49] <usicow> I have a laptop which I SSH into (running Ubuntu 9.04) which I know the sound card works when it boots into X, but I changed it so that it just boots to the console, and since then when I SSH in, and play an MP3 theres no sound. What can I do to work out whats going on?
[17:50] <Dr_Willis> irc-anope:  im saying i dont use xchat 'bots'  - xchat is very scriptable and could be used for a bot if you wanted.. I imagine htye have examples of such things at teh xchat homepage/scripts. I dont use them, so i dont know any more on the topic
[17:51] <irc-anope> I appreciate the direction
[17:51] <linuxnub> does anyone know about enemy territory the game?
[17:51] <Dr_Willis> !games > linuxnub
[17:53] <linuxnub> Dr_Willis yes sorry i have that saved and bookmarked from earlyer i was gona ask if some one know if i need something ese to get it to work because i have downloaded it and nada
[17:53] <linuxnub> FYI i think that the second linkk is amazing never knew there were so many linux games
[17:54] <iaWeiP> !games
[17:54] <kapil> usicow: 9.04 uses pulse audio and you need to have access to the pulse server
[17:54] <kebomix> hello , i had program to automount partitions , but it changed the partition name to /media/sda6 , i want to get it back as it was before like ("/media/Data")
[17:55] <linuxnub> this list: http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[17:55] <terry> how to i chat with web cam
[17:56] <ascott> terry: try skype
[17:56] <kebomix> hello , i had program to automount partitions , but it changed the partition name to /media/sda6 , i want to get it back as it was before like ("/media/Data") , any one have solution ?
[17:56] <ascott> terry: skype.com
[17:56] <safiyyah> guys i need help with ekiga someone please!
[17:56] <linuxnub> is it common to only have sound one app at a time on ubuntu, meaning when i have skype open no other program can give me audio
[17:56] <jarod_> .ro
[17:57] <mcphail> kebomix: if you give the volume a label it will mount as /media/whatever_the_label_is
[17:58] <terry> thanks
[17:59] <jdu> linuxnub, no
[17:59] <linuxnub> so another bug for me then :(
[18:01] <lantjie> hey guys how can i go to off the topic
[18:01] <lantjie> ?
[18:01] <ShockF> Pici ive just tryed ubuntu 9.04 on virtualbox and it worked perfectly yet when i try using the live disc and wubi i get a blank screen
[18:01] <linuxnub> afk
[18:01] <Noxarethor> Hello. Can anyone help me out? > http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1182808
[18:01] <linuxnub> trying et
[18:02] <lantjie> i want to know how i can call myself after i finished th redhat course
[18:02] <lantjie> ?
[18:02] <mercutio22> I'm having trouble printing a PDF file from evince on a networked printer. The test page is printed appropriately but when I send PDF job, evince gets briefly unresponsive and the printer icon shows says "processing" but that never ends.
[18:02] <zer0c00l> how could i load a kernel module at boot time?
[18:02] <mercutio22> what to do?
[18:03] <jdu> mercutio22, perhaps if you give it a looot of time, it will work.  Otherwise try okular.
[18:03] <d1gital> !modprobe
[18:03] <d1gital> gah
[18:03] <zer0c00l> d1gital, modprobe is for loading the kernel
[18:03] <mcphail> Noxarethor: noone can guarantee your install will not lead to data loss. Back up.
[18:04] <mercutio22> jdu, YES, the printer just spit it!!
[18:04] <zer0c00l> d1gital, i am talkin about loading at boot time
[18:04] <niuby> what program can i download for code in C language ? im in ubuntu.
[18:04] <mercutio22> what the heck
[18:04] <mercutio22> heheh
[18:04] <zer0c00l> niuby, codeblocks (apt-get install codeblocks)
[18:04] <Noxarethor> mcphail: I heard Linux can read NTFS
[18:04] <mcphail> Noxarethor: yes. it can
[18:05] <jdu> Noxarethor, and write to it with ntfs-3g
[18:05] <linuxnub> Thank you all got it working, now off to try it out some more :)
[18:05] <zer0c00l> Any body have idea on how to load a kernel module at boottime?
[18:05] <ShockF> jdu any ideas how i can get either my ubuntu 9.04 cd to work i get to the spalsh menu chose the install option it seems to load and then the screen goes black ive tried different vga codes and still nothing i even tryed wubi and that also didnt work any help would be appreciated
[18:05] <d1gital> http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-how-to-load-a-kernel-module-automatically-at-boot-time/
[18:05] <mcphail> Noxarethor: but if you get the install wrong you will nuke the music parition.
[18:05] <zer0c00l> i went there , i didnt get it d1gital
[18:06] <Noxarethor> mcphail: so, can't i just create another ntfs, move the music there and after that just copy it to the /home?
[18:06] <jdu> ShockF, dell system?
[18:06] <ShockF> nope
[18:06] <jdu> zer0c00l, /etc/modules or /etc/modules.conf
[18:06] <ShockF> i have a advent 5311 laptop
[18:06] <zer0c00l> d1gital, what about loading a usbserial modem driver
[18:07] <mcphail> Noxarethor: you can, yes. But you might mess up and format the wrong partition at install time. Up to you. USB drives are cheap. 13GB of music isn't.
[18:07] <sheep30945> when i bet ubutnu i can press esc to open a menu to be able to run in safemode etc. if i don't do this and select the top one i get an error (cpc). i can check the exact error unless anyone knows of the problem
[18:07] <sheep30945> boot*
[18:07] <jdu> ShockF, what happens if you switch to tty (ctrl+alt+f1)?
[18:07] <d1gital> zer0c00l, just append the name of the module to /etc/modules.conf
[18:07] <ShockF> whats tty ?
[18:07] <zer0c00l> d1gital, ok
[18:07] <Noxarethor> mcphail: someone must do the dirty job :D
[18:08] <jdu> ShockF, a terminal you should get to it with the key sequence above
[18:08] <ShockF> i havent tried that should i do it now
[18:08] <civixier> Is there a command for opening the current directory in the console to a file browser window?
[18:08] <Noxarethor> brb
[18:08] <jdu> ShockF, do you have a text login prompt?
[18:08] <mcphail> Noxarethor: i'd format the C drive as ext3 and copy the music to it by running ubuntu to the live cd. You can then install onto the D drive and mount the old c drive as /music
[18:09] <ShockF> jdu no i havent even installed ubuntu yet
[18:09] <mcphail> civixier: nautilus .
[18:09] <civixier> ah, thank you :D
[18:09] <jdu> ShockF, ok.  well, it sounds like an xorg problem.  Google your video card and you'll probably find instructions.
[18:09] <jdu> ShockF, also, you might try the alternate cd installer
[18:10] <jdu> ShockF, then make the xorg fix after it is installed.
[18:10] <tdn> 18:22 < soreau> tdn: In that case you might want to use ifconfig. For instance, sudo ifconfig eth0 <ip>   <---- But this will only make it have the static IP address until next reboot.
[18:11] <gartral> where do I g to point out new versions of software that has important fixes, so it can be added too the repos?
[18:11] <rascal999> in following the steps here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1112209 ubuntu occasionally boots  but usually hangs on squashfs: version 3.3 ... what can I do to fix?
[18:11] <ShockF> well i have a sis mirage 3+ vid card and when ive googled it theres people saying it doesnt work and then theres people saying it only works on 800x600 and ive tried the 800x600 vga code and nothing happened really
[18:13] <d1gital> somehow a mounted smb share is causing my server to hang and i can't umount it because it's busy.. what do i do??
[18:13] <\\`oot> Howdy... I'm having a heck of a time finding VMWare Desktop for Ubuntu... what am I missing?
[18:13] <SirTopHat> how much easier to use than debian is ubuntu?
[18:13] <cabrey> \\`oot, its vmware workstatiion
[18:14] <\\`oot> heh... hrmm... OK
[18:14] <\\`oot> stupid VMWare site
[18:14] <\\`oot> found it I think
[18:14] <d1gital> sirtophat, to be completely honest, not very. debian just doesnt come with as much pre-installed so it's a little more work but gets better performance
[18:15] <\\`oot> on VMWare's site I have 2 options... "VMWare Bundle (.bundle file)" or "VMWare RPM"... which will install?
[18:15] <L3dPlatedLinux> was wonding how to connect a bunch of .flv vids in to one
[18:15] <cabrey> \\`oot, get the bundle
[18:15] <\\`oot> ok, thanks
[18:15] <L3dPlatedLinux> oh 9.04 is what I am usign
[18:16] <gartral> maco: STILL THERE?
[18:16] <civixier> Where do I find the resemblance to Task Manager in Windows?
[18:16] <civixier> or what do I write in the console
[18:16]  * gartral thinks who ever put caps ny tab should be shot
[18:16] <gartral> by*
[18:16] <anodesni> my tty's are blank! How to fix it?
[18:17] <gartral> is there anyway I can bind caps lock to work as a *normal* shift unless its double tapped?
[18:17] <gartral> maco: still around to help?
[18:17] <cabrey> gardar, System > Preferences > Keyboard
[18:19] <unop> civixier,  gnome-system-monitor perhaps
[18:19] <d1gital> civixier, alt+f2 gnome-system-monitor
[18:19] <gartral> I keep getting black lines drawn accross my desktop, and sometimes in firefox, I know its a driver issue, as a screenshot captures it
[18:19] <civixier> ah, thank you :D
[18:20] <MegaManX> Hi Ubuntu users. Is somebody here experienced with Netbeans? Netbeans channel is kinda dead :)
[18:23] <L3dPlatedLinux> was wonding how to connect a bunch of .flv vids in to one
[18:23] <jiffe99> hmm, when I try to bzr get mysql-cluster I get
[18:23] <jiffe99> "bzr: ERROR: Unknown repository format: 'Bazaar RepositoryFormatKnitPack6 (bzr 1.9)\n'"
[18:23] <frostburn> L3dPlatedLinux, were they split or are they individual files?  if it's just a split, a cat will work just fine        cat vid1 vid2 vid3 vid4 > vid.flv
[18:23] <L3dPlatedLinux> not connect but to make or convert a bunch on .flv vids to one
[18:23] <jiffe99> which appears to be due to the version, but I have the latest version installed from the repository
[18:24] <L3dPlatedLinux> spilt i think
[18:24] <L3dPlatedLinux>  you tube
[18:24] <gartral> I keep getting black lines drawn accross my desktop, and sometimes in firefox, I know its a driver issue, as a screenshot captures it
[18:24] <frostburn> gartral, nvidia?
[18:25] <ShockF> jdu you still here ?
[18:25] <\\`oot> OK... what do I do with the .bundle file!?  (downloaded from VMWare.com)
[18:26] <snmpee> mornin
[18:27] <soreau> [10:23:49] <soreau> tdn: There are some config files in /etc you can have it use static over dhcp (for 'global' use) but not sure exactly how to set it up off hand
[18:27] <jiffe99> man, this is a pain in the ass
[18:27] <gartral> frostburn: yea
[18:27] <frostburn> \\`oot, what .bundle file, what are you trying to accomplish?
[18:27] <frostburn> gartral, mobile chipset?  i had the same issues with my 7600
[18:27] <jiffe99> installing new software on 8.04 depends on new versions of software which aren't in the 8.04 repository
[18:28] <gartral> frostburn: AGP XFX 6200
[18:28] <\\`oot> it's VMWare workstation
[18:28] <\\`oot> what the hell do I do with that file!?
[18:28] <jiffe99> meaning pretty much everything needs to be built from source so I can actually link against what I have installed
[18:28] <jiffe99> there has to be a better way
[18:28] <freeanshu> how can i remaster ubuntu?
[18:28] <Crazyguy> \\`oot, you just execute the file from terminal
[18:28] <frostburn> \\`oot, do a $file *.bundle      what kind of file is it?
[18:29] <frostburn> jiffe99, so statically link your binary, that way you wont have dependency issues
[18:29] <ShockF> could anybody help me with the sis mirage3+ problem i have ive been told i need to do a xorg what is this and how do i do it
[18:29] <\\`oot> uhh.... bash: VMware-Workstation-6.5.2-156735.i386.bundle: command not found
[18:29] <jiffe99> I'm trying to install via apt-get, which depends on other packages
[18:29] <Crazyguy> \\`oot, you probably need to do "chmod +x <file>" first
[18:30] <jiffe99> bzr is old, so I'm using their repository to get a new version, but it depends on a newer version of a different package than is available for 8.04 apparently
[18:30] <\\`oot> same "command not found" error
[18:30] <\\`oot> bingo: bash: VMware-Workstation-6.5.2-156735.i386.bundle: command not found
[18:30] <\\`oot> err
[18:30] <nibbler_> \\`oot: prepend sh (with space)
[18:30] <\\`oot> VMware-Workstation-6.5.2-156735.i386.bundle: a bash script text executable
[18:31] <nibbler_> \\`oot: btw, i recommend you to use virtualbox-ose or the like, for better integratin into ubuntu
[18:31] <ubuntu_> ?????????????????
[18:31] <\\`oot> nibbler_: Huh?
[18:31] <jiffe99> I prefer ports trees I think
[18:31] <Crazyguy> nibbler_, doesn't really work if you need to work with vmware virtual machines
[18:31] <frostburn> nibbler_, you need to install the virtualbox tools into the guest os
[18:31] <cabrey> \\`oot, run sh VMware-blah blha blha.bundle
[18:31] <ubuntu_> my 3d nvida driver wont work (black screen on startup)
[18:31] <ShockF> frostburn can you help me with my install of ubuntu please
[18:31] <nibbler_> Crazyguy: didnt know this was requiered
[18:32] <frostburn> ShockF, it depends?
[18:32] <Crazyguy> nibbler_, I don't know if it is
[18:32] <cabrey> \\`oot, also use sudo
[18:32] <nibbler_> ShockF: did alternative install disk work?
[18:32] <gartral> frostburn: known fixes? (other than reloading your BG image till it doesn't look like crap)
[18:32] <ShockF> nibbler : no it wouldnt allow me to download it for some reason
[18:32] <nibbler_> \\`oot: do you just want to set up a virtual machine, or do you depend on the fact that it is a vmware virtual machine?
[18:32] <dfr|work> Hi, when I do do-release-upgrade on my hardy, it says that 'No new release found' is that expected?
[18:32] <nibbler_> ShockF: show me the link you use
[18:32] <\\`oot> no, I just want a virtual machine
[18:33] <\\`oot> to test out Windows 7 (BETA) for my lab
[18:33] <nibbler_> \\`oot: aptitude install virtualbox-ose
[18:33] <\\`oot> and I refuse to actually INSTALL it
[18:33] <MGollum> hello, anyone knows if adobe flash plugin canches its own client data? in the same way the cookies works?
[18:33] <Crazyguy> \\`oot, in that case I recommend virtualbox, the vmware workstation is quite a pain in the ass to install
[18:33] <\\`oot> nibbler_: What am I installing?
[18:33] <cabrey> CrazyEddy, yes there is a cache for flash
[18:33] <cabrey> CrazyEddy, hehe that rhymes
[18:33] <\\`oot> ahh... in that case I'll take your recommendations gents
[18:33] <nibbler_> \\`oot: this is *much* easier than using vmware, as it is open source and well supported by ubuntu, in contrary to the closed vmware, where you need to compile your kernel modules etc
[18:34] <freeanshu> how can i remaster ubuntu?
[18:34] <MGollum> cabrey, how can be it reset!?
[18:34] <frostburn> gartral, my solution was that laptop video card melted and i got an eeepc instead=(
[18:34] <mcphail> dfr|work: yes. By default it will only look for another LTS release
[18:34] <ShockF> nibbler : http://ubuntu.virginmedia.com/releases/jaunty/
[18:34] <cabrey> MGollum, oops responded to the wrong person
[18:34] <ShockF> then i use the one at the bottom called PC (Intel x86) alternate install CD
[18:34] <ruzibiza> Hi every one this is my first time i use IRC server for chat
[18:34] <dfr|work> mcphail, should i be able to override that with -m dekstop or that's a different setting?
[18:34] <cabrey> MGollum, there really is  no reset, its all stored in /tmp, which is wiped out after you reboot
[18:34] <nibbler_> ShockF: http://ubuntu.virginmedia.com/releases/jaunty/ubuntu-9.04-alternate-amd64.iso works perfectly for me, for example
[18:34] <cabrey> nibbler_, you still have to compile kernel modules for virtualbox
[18:35] <mcphail> dfr|work: i can't remember how to do that. It should be in the intrepid release notes
[18:35] <ShockF> nibbler : i dont think that would work as i dont have an amd computer
[18:35] <nibbler_> cabrey: no, not true. they co0me with ubuntu
[18:35] <dfr|work> mcphail, okay... I probably don't want to do that anyway though, as I would imagine that another LTS release should be relatively soon. :)
[18:35] <nibbler_> ShockF: this is general 64bit latest cpu stuff
[18:35] <dfr|work> mcphail, thanks!
[18:35] <ShockF> oh ok
[18:35] <gartral> frostburn: ...
[18:35] <mcphail> dfr|work: pleasure :)
[18:35] <\\`oot> cabrey: Am I going to have to mess with kernel compile, or will it just do it?
[18:35] <cabrey> nibbler_, i experienced kernel modules being compiled but maybe they changed it ;)
[18:35] <ruzibiza> i have a problem with updating on ubuntu 7.10 GUTSI can some one help me
[18:36] <XCP> hi. I have a problem that recently showed up: when ever I try to start programs, 80% of the time my PC hangs and ubuntu becomes a CPU hog. sometimes it stops to do that, but often I can only restart. it happens with: mythtv, wine, lyx, etc... is this a known issue?
[18:36] <ruzibiza> ?
[18:36] <ShockF> nibbler : ill download it now and see what happens
[18:36] <MGollum> /tmp/plugtmp?
[18:36] <cabrey> !7.10
[18:36] <\\`oot> Crap... got a FAIL
[18:36] <\\`oot> Setting up virtualbox-ose (2.1.4-dfsg-1ubuntu3) ...
[18:36] <\\`oot>  * Starting VirtualBox kernel module...                                  [fail]
[18:36] <nibbler_> \\`oot: at least you dont have to do anything manually, i use virtualbox on both, laptop and desktop, and never needed to bother about any building.... maybe its done automaticall,y but this is no gentoo... :)
[18:36] <frostburn> \\`oot, you need to be running it as root/sudo
[18:37] <Ghoti> Any eeebuntu gurus in here by any chance?
[18:37] <\\`oot> well, I installed it sudo
[18:37] <frostburn> Ghoti, <-
[18:37] <nibbler_> \\`oot: last lines of dmesg?
[18:37] <L3dPlatedLinux> awesome the cat name1 and name2 > name0.flv worked like a charm
[18:38] <frostburn> L3dPlatedLinux, welcome =]
[18:38] <\\`oot> [46003.346495] vboxdrv: Successfully loaded version 2.1.4_OSE (interface 0x000a0009).
[18:38] <\\`oot> [46128.954299] warning: `VirtualBox' uses 32-bit capabilities (legacy support in use)
[18:38] <ruzibiza> can some one help on my problem of updating
[18:38] <Ghoti> frostburn: Hi- I just installed the updates that showed up this morning, and my top GNOME-panel is now blank, though operational.  Any ideas what might cause this?  (This is on a 900HD, if the model matters)
[18:38] <nibbler_> \\`oot: looks good i'd say.... maybe try starting "virtualbox"
[18:38] <cabrey> \\`oot, you have 64 bit?
[18:38] <L3dPlatedLinux> juat when you think ubuntu / linux couldn't get any better WHAM it does
[18:38] <Dazzler> hey all - quick question i need to write a command to remove the first 17 characters of each line in a text file. Any ideas of I could do this?
[18:38] <frostburn> Ghoti, are you using the remix or regular ubuntu?
[18:38] <\\`oot> 32-bit
[18:39] <\\`oot> (as far as I know, haha)
[18:39] <nibbler_> Dazzler: its a sed 1-liner
[18:39] <\\`oot> j/k
[18:39] <Ghoti> frostburn: it's the regular 'eeebuntu', not the BNR
[18:39] <CartoonCat> Hello all
[18:39] <Ghoti> NBR even
[18:39] <frostburn> Ghoti, do a $pkill gnome-panel
[18:39] <nibbler_> Dazzler: sed 's/^.{17}//g' file  <-- or so
[18:39] <kapil> Dazzler: cut -f18- < file
[18:39] <CartoonCat> I have a Breazy Badger appliance I am trying ot isntall java in, but the package manager does not see sun java, any ideas?
[18:39] <ShockF> nibbler : i tried using the 800x600 vga code and when i pressed enter for the install the screen wasnt blank it just had an _ in the top right corner if this was installing how long should the _ stay there
[18:39] <kapil> sorry. cut -b17- < file
[18:40] <Dazzler> nibbler: yeah i saw something about sed i will have a look how to do it - sorry im new to linux :)
[18:40] <cabrey> !breazy
[18:40] <kapil> sorry again. cut -b18- < file
[18:40] <rance_> can someone help me with an xrandr error, please check out http://pastebin.ca/1454005
[18:40] <nibbler_> ShockF: seconds... but dont use any vga.... just plain text...
[18:40] <ShockF> kk
[18:40] <CartoonCat> breezy
[18:40] <Dazzler> thanks for the suggestions i will give them a go
[18:40] <cabrey> CartoonCat, you have 5.10?
[18:41] <Ghoti> frostburn: that did the trick!
[18:41] <ruzibiza> Hello i'm not really new on linux but these days i can't update my UBUNTU 7.10 GUTSY
[18:41] <Myrtti> !gutsy | ruzibiza
[18:41] <Ghoti> frostburn: thanks most kindly!
[18:41] <frostburn> Ghoti, np
[18:41] <niuby> im trying to compile a .c file with GCC, I compile the file and it generate the exe but when i try execute the exefile the output is: "cannot execute binary files" anyone can helpme? i tryed with chmod +x and 777 but no.
[18:42] <CartoonCat> cabrey: I believe it is
[18:42] <cabrey> niuby, exe are for windows...
[18:42] <cabrey> !5.10
[18:42] <frostburn> niuby, what are you trying to compile against?
[18:42] <Myrtti> !pm > ruzibiza
[18:42] <gartral> where can I go to recommend Ubuntu Devs upgrade thier packages?
[18:42] <niuby> cabrey yes... ok its generate the file executable ...
[18:42] <Myrtti> ruzibiza: please ask your questions in the channel
[18:42] <niuby> cabrey how can i fix the problem
[18:42] <cabrey> niuby, they are for windows. this is the ubuntu channel
[18:43] <CartoonCat> cabrey: am I sol for sun-java on BB 5.10?
[18:43] <ShockF> nibbler : 11% lol would nearly hve finished now if my connection was like when i downloaded the live cd
[18:43] <niuby> cabrey im in ubuntu (oh my god)....
[18:43] <frgr> I'm still having problems with getting german keyboard on macbook to work. I have the following settings: model: macbook/macbook pro Intl layout: de variant: mac Is that correct?
[18:44] <regeya> woo hoo, woo hoo hoo
[18:44] <cabrey> CartoonCat, probably. everyone in this channel is most likely running 8.04 8.10 or 9.04
[18:44] <regeya> (now you have that 5 6 7 8s song in your head, haha)
[18:44] <cabrey> niuby, ok so what are you compiling?
[18:44] <CartoonCat> cabrey: yea, I am on my desktop, this is a vmware appliance im testing ot se if i want ot deploy it as a kiosk
[18:45] <CartoonCat> loks like i need to do a complete install
[18:45] <ruzibiza> sorry my questions was asked in the channel but it seems that no is interested lol
[18:45] <cabrey> CartoonCat, stick with LTS releases
[18:45] <ideamonk> Has anyone found Ubuntu 9.04 amd64 a bit slower than 8.10 ?
[18:46] <cabrey> ideamonk, graphics card?
[18:46] <frostburn> ideamonk, define slower?
[18:46] <Pici> !ot | regeya
[18:46] <niuby> cabrey im in ubuntu ..... can u helpme plz? why the output is "cannot execute binary files" ?
[18:46] <ideamonk> cabrey, i've got nvidia 750m and sometimes the portions of GUI would got black for a while
[18:47] <Cr4zY|0n3> hi all, just a silly query, i have ubuntu installed a toshiba laptop, on the front of the laptop i can change the volume of the sound, is there anyway of changing the sensitivity?  because when i increase/decrease the volume, it jumps too much
[18:47] <cabrey> niuby, you have yet to answer my questions. are you compiling for windows (cross compile)?
[18:47] <ideamonk> frostburn , by slow I mean, 2 months back when I used to log in, it used to take 5 seconds to load the whole desktop, not it takes 10-15...
[18:47] <cabrey> ideamonk, you have installed nvidia's drivers?
[18:47] <niuby> cabrey , no!! im using GCC, im in ubuntu...
[18:48] <ideamonk> frostburn and then clicking on menus, brings the menu with some lag
[18:48] <magnet> ideamonk:  sudo cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/cpuinfo_cur_freq
[18:48] <frostburn> ideamonk, 9.04 now saves session states by default, so your previous settings will be loaded next time you log in
[18:48] <magnet> check if your cpu is running at max frequency
[18:48] <cabrey> niuby, i understand that, but you continue to say that the file is an exe
[18:48] <Myrtti> ruzibiza: as you have been informed, Gutsy reached its end of life in April, you'll need to upgrade
[18:48] <msk> during booting, my systems gets stuck at "running /scripts/init-bottom" & goes into text mode, whats the problem ?
[18:48] <Myrtti> !upgrade | ruzibiza
[18:48] <niuby> cabrey , its no .exe, sry....
[18:49] <ideamonk> cabrey i've installed the drivers suggested by Hardware Drivers under Administration... 180. something
[18:49] <niuby> cabrey , the gcc compiler generate the final file to execute... THATS.
[18:49] <frostburn> ideamonk, i'd also check your sessions, now called startup applications to see if there's anything there that's new
[18:49] <magnet> ideamonk: enter the command I gave you in a shell
[18:49] <avegas> hey, I just set up Jaunty on my new Dell Vostro, a few days ago
[18:49] <cabrey> niuby, so what are you compiling? or what are the flags given to gcc?
[18:49] <arash_> is there a psd previewer for linux (not gimp)?
[18:49] <ideamonk> magnet I use CPU Scaling applet in gnome, its usually set to 1800 Mhz
[18:49] <avegas> last night, I had my file-system go read only on me
[18:49] <magnet> ideamonk: if the output isn't your maximum cpu frequency, it's simply frequency scaling
[18:49] <msk> during booting, my systems gets stuck at "running /scripts/init-bottom" & goes into text mode, whats the problem ?
[18:50] <rob_p> CartoonCat, If you are using vmware, have you checked out:  http://linhost.info/vmware
[18:50] <mneptok> niuby: a .exe is a Windows executable. use Windows or WINE to run it. Linux won't.
[18:50] <magnet> ideamonk: do you know the actual frequency of your cpu?
[18:50] <avegas> I ran fsck on the disk , and it seemed like many things were wrong
[18:50] <magnet> ideamonk: try to run in performance mode and check if you experience the slowness
[18:50] <niuby> mneptok omg...... fucking stupid
[18:50] <avegas> I foolishly just pressed yes to everything fsck wanted to do
[18:50] <rob_p> CartoonCat, They have prebuilt machines for Ubuntu... Saves lots of time.
[18:50] <fccf> !ohmy | niuby
[18:50] <msk> avegas: even i did fsck, ubuntu is gone !!
[18:51] <ideamonk> magnet allright, it becomes a little more responsive
[18:51] <magnet> ideamonk: on my PC it's a lot more responsive
[18:51] <msk> ubottu: ok...ok
[18:51] <avegas> when I attempted to reinstall, I got a failure
[18:51] <CartoonCat> rob_p: take a while to DL them, and this looked like it would work, just is old. all i need is java support
[18:51] <ideamonk> has anyone got solution for sluggishness of flash plugin in firefox, im using the one from adobe's website for amd64 which is not a release edition
[18:51] <magnet> ideamonk: if you have a dual core you have to change to performance mode for each one
[18:52] <avegas> on the second try, jaunty went back on
[18:52] <msk> during booting, my systems gets stuck at "running /scripts/init-bottom" & goes into text mode, whats the problem ?
[18:52] <said> s
[18:52] <said> goodday
[18:52] <Nehyx> said: hi
[18:53] <cabrey> Nehyx, you said hi?
[18:53] <Nehyx> cahi = hello
[18:53] <Nehyx> lol
[18:53] <Nehyx> sorry, auto completition
[18:53] <rameshwo> guys..  one thing i couldn't understand..what's they mean by the stuffs that .  ubuntu is based on debian . and fedora on redhat ?     and some other on ubuntu .. what are these things ??
[18:53] <avegas> so anyways, now I'm running the bios diagnostics on the machine
[18:53] <cabrey> rameshwo, ubuntu is a linux distro based on debian
[18:53] <mneptok> rameshwo: have a look on Wikipedia. such questions are offtopic for this channel.
[18:54] <cabrey> rameshwo, and RHEL is a distro based on fedora
[18:54] <frostburn> msk, sounds like something got munged, is there anything else on the screen?any errors? can you get to a terminal?  (alt f2)
[18:54] <onyx> is there any app that improves wireless connection
[18:54] <avegas> anyone have any suggestions on using debian to track down hardware problems/how to talk to dell about getting stuff fixed?
[18:54] <rob_p> CartoonCat, Yeah the machines can take some time to download but they have recent ones.  I'm using their 8.04LTS server which of course can have java added in.
[18:54] <edbian_> rameshwo: Debian is a linux distrobution that is very much community based.  The ubuntu developers took debian "testing" and changed the art, changed what apps are installed by default, built an isntaller, added a couple other gui tools and out popped ubuntu.
[18:54] <G-ilgha> Hi
[18:54] <rameshwo> mneptok  : sorry.....
[18:54] <mneptok> rameshwo: it's OK
[18:54] <frostburn> avegas, are you talking about hardware fixes for dell, or software fixes for ubuntu and upstream debian?
[18:54] <rob_p> CartoonCat, In fact I have 3 instances running with java on them.
[18:54] <G-ilgha> I've got a question
[18:54] <fccf> !hi | G-ilgha
[18:55] <CartoonCat> rob_p: ok, well, i guess i will get downloading
[18:55] <fccf> !ask
[18:55] <cabrey> edbian_, give the ubuntu devs a little more credit than that ;)
[18:55] <msk> frostburn :i got  soft lock : CPU#0 stuck for 11s [init:1]
[18:55] <edbian_> rameshwo: Also the ubuntu developers can walk on water
[18:55] <Abdurahman> so what's the question
[18:55] <Shihan> hi all... i've been trying to change the default logged in resolution for a user, and I came across this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution but it does say which gdm startup scripts to mody... any suggestions?
[18:55] <rob_p> CartoonCat, If you don't need GUI, get the server... much smaller download.  Good luck.
[18:55] <G-ilgha> So I'd like to get ext4 instead of ext3 but someone has told me that grub can't boot ext4 :s
[18:56] <avegas> frostburn, I'm wondering what sorts of utilities I can run to try and get a better picture of what is actually wrong with the machine, and also if anyone has any idea if Dell will give me a hard time about replacing things
[18:56] <edbian_> rameshwo: The biggest difference between debian and fedora is the package manager system.  Fedora uses .rpm and yum, debian uses .deb and aptitude (so does ubuntu).
[18:56] <cabrey> G-ilgha, uhhh they're wrong :)
[18:56] <bufflo> is someone familiar with dmraid? when using `dmraid -ay` it says 'no raid disks', but debian found my jmicron ATARAID previously without problems
[18:56] <edbian_> G-ilgha: ext4 can be booted by grub
[18:56] <frostburn> msk, i've encountered that before and it's due to filesystem corruption, use a fsck and force the rebuild, i don't recall the exact command
[18:56] <G-ilgha> they told me I had to put /boot on an other ext3 partition
[18:57] <CartoonCat> rob_p: ya i need the gui. I can pull at 15mb to my core, but to where i am now aobut 1mbit, heh, take a looon time
[18:57] <G-ilgha> and / on an ext4
[18:57] <cabrey> G-ilgha, no, ubuntu & fedora's grub can boot ext4 without /boot
[18:57] <avegas> rameshwo, fedora packages tend to have more verbose default config files IMHO
[18:57] <msk> frostburn: i can't get into the console to do a fsck !
[18:57] <edbian_> G-ilgha: That is most likely outdated information.  I was booting ubuntu for a good 2 months using ext4
[18:57] <cabrey> ^
[18:57] <frostburn> avegas, what sort of symptoms are you seeing?  i'd recommend getting another hdd/partition for windows and calling dell tech support on any symptoms as well
[18:57] <G-ilgha> ok :-) great news !
[18:57] <frostburn> msk, you need to use a live cd, either your ubuntu disk or a knoppix disk
[18:58] <mcphail> G-ilgha: if you convert from ext3 to ext4, make sure you update your version of grub
[18:58] <Abdurahman> quit
[18:58] <msk> frostburn: i did a fsck earlier, reported some errors..& the console got stuck
[18:58] <G-ilgha> mcphail, how ?
[18:58] <edbian_> avegas: good luck with dell tech support.  Most of the calls are forwarded to Bangledish, India (<- spelling?)
[18:58] <msk> frostburn: ok..
[18:58] <frostburn> msk, fsck --force /dev/sd1   (or whathaveyou)
[18:58] <Abdurahman> lol
[18:58] <cabrey> G-ilgha, I wouldn't convert your file system, you don't reep all of the benefits anyways
[18:58] <rob_p> CartoonCat, Yeah, the Desktop versions are 700+ MB while the server is like 160MB.  But if you need the UI, I guess you'll be downloading for a while.
[18:58] <rameshwo> edbian_ ::: ubuntU DEVELOPERS CAN WALK ON WATER ? MEANING ?
[18:58] <avegas> frostburn, my filesystem went read-only on me then I ran fsck and many strange things seemed to be wrong
[18:58] <Myrtti> !offtopic
[18:58] <cabrey> rameshwo, Jesus
[18:59] <Pici> G-ilgha: Only if you are upgrading do you need to worry about ext4 booting from grub
[18:59] <edbian_> rameshwo: cabrey wanted me to give the ubuntu developers more credit.  I was joking (1/2 joking really, they're brilliant people).
[18:59] <frostburn> avegas, yeah, same thing happened to me, you'll need to run fsck --force, your disk is also probably dying, i'd start backing up everything
[18:59] <G-ilgha> I just want to boot quickly
[18:59] <mcphail> G-ilgha: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/904#Switching%20to%20ext4%20requires%20manually%20updating%20grub
[19:00] <G-ilgha> and I don't want to reinstall the whole distribution
[19:00] <avegas> frostburn, then I tried to reinstall Jaunty, and it didn't want to go
[19:00] <avegas> frostburn, the laptop is brand new though
[19:00] <frostburn> avegas, hard drives are very fragile beasts in laptops, one wrong jostle and the head hits the platter
[19:00] <edbian_> G-ilgha: There are rumors that updating ext3 to ext4 is not quite the same as a fresh ext4 install.  I don't know why but you should research it before so that you know exactly what you're getting into.
[19:01] <cabrey> edbian_, if you go from ext3 > ext4 you don't get all the benefits of a ext4 fs from the start
[19:01] <msk> frostburn: what will when i run this "fsck --force /dev/sd1" will the errors get corrected ?
[19:01] <frostburn> msk, it did for me, but your mileage may vary
[19:01] <edbian_> G-ilgha: there ya go! ^ What cabrey siad.
[19:01] <msk> frostburn: what will happen when i run this "fsck --force /dev/sd1" will the errors get corrected ?
[19:02] <edbian_> msk: If you harddrive is broken and the laptop is still under warranty...
[19:02] <G-ilgha> you make me hesitate
[19:02] <msk> edbian_: i am not usinf a laptop..!
[19:02] <G-ilgha> but reinstalling the whole distribution sucks
[19:02] <edbian_> msk:  oop sorry, that was somebody else!
[19:03] <rameshwo> anyone please can send me some links where i can find linux or ubuntu  video tutorials ??
[19:03] <fccf> G-ilgha:  with good reason - personally I believe ext4 to be too bleeding edge for use in production systems
[19:03] <frostburn> msk are you using a seagate drive over 750gb?
[19:03] <edbian_> avegas: If you're harddrive is broken but the laptop is still under warranty...
[19:03] <Pici> rameshwo: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ScreenCasts
[19:03] <edbian_> G-ilgha: Yes it does...
[19:03] <msk> frostburn: 160gb seagate..
[19:04] <rameshwo> Pici : thanks.
[19:04] <msk> frostburn: 40gb for ubuntu, remaining for winne...
[19:04] <avegas> edbian_, yeah, I'm thinking that I'll call dell, annoying thing is that I bought the laptop so I'd be able to do some work on a month long road trip I'm starting friday
[19:04] <G-ilgha> / and /boot are on the same partition on my computer
[19:04] <frostburn> msk, yeah, i'd run the fsck, and contact customer support if it's still bad and get a replacement if it's under warranty
[19:04] <edbian_> G-ilgha: I wouldn't worry about it yet.  Like what fccf said.  A lot of people don't think ext4 is up to par yet.
[19:04] <avegas> edbian_, have any idea as far as some good things I can read in order to figure out how to do some more diagnostic stuff on the laptop?
[19:05] <G-ilgha> up to par? english isn't my mothertongue and I don't understand what you mean
[19:05] <msk> frostburn: what is this "soft lock : cpu#0 stuck for 11s" ?
[19:05] <edbian_> avegas: Have fun with dell!!  The are going to want to remote control you computer (they always want to do that).  I don't know how their tech support feels about linux.  Although they do sell some laptops with ubuntu pre-installed.
[19:05] <elham> hi
[19:06] <edbian_> avegas: Not really.  From what I hear broken harddrives are pretty much un-repair-able.   What specifically is the problem?  Can the system boot?
[19:06] <msk> !hi | elham
[19:06] <elham> thanks alot
[19:06] <shyam_k> is there a tool which saves the eth0 data transfer as each session concludes? somethin like a multisession network-properties?
[19:06] <becksi> hello, I've tried two times to install ATI binary X.Org driver on my laptop, but both time after reboot the computer just freezes and doesn't show login screen. I have ATI Xpress 200m, does someone what is the problem?
[19:06] <frostburn> msk, this code detects soft lockups: incidents in where on a CPU the kernel does not reschedule for 10 seconds or more
[19:06] <cabrey> avegas, if you didnt buy the dell with ubuntu, they wont support ubuntu
[19:06] <john__> I recently installed ubuntu on my vista home premium computer, i cannot get any sound , can anybody give me some info to correct the problem
[19:07] <G-ilgha> and what about installing grub2 ? it supports ext4
[19:07] <onyx> john__: did the sound worked on vista
[19:07] <jwfoxjr> ok, so I'm trying to install phpmyadmin on my Jaunty box.  I have mysql-server-5.1 installed and it keeps trying to downgrade it - what gives?
[19:07] <avegas> edbian, was able to boot off the livecd, and after reinstalling Jaunty twice, I got it to reboot again, although once booted, strange things happened, such as firefox crashing and then silently refusing to start from gnome
[19:07] <msk> frostburn: i am getting this softlock "bug" after a unsuccessful fsck...
[19:07] <avegas> edbian, which sounds maybe more like some bad RAM or something
[19:08] <john__> yes it works good on vista
[19:08] <frostburn> msk, you ran the force?
[19:08] <msk> frostburn: no.
[19:08] <onyx> john__: wich sound card do you use
[19:08] <avegas> cabrey, do you think that they will try and refuse to support my hardware if I admit to having installed ubuntu?
[19:08] <frostburn> msk, go do that and see if it still persists
[19:09] <cabrey> avegas, most likely
[19:09] <msk> frostburn: k.
[19:09] <fccf> !info mysql-server
[19:09] <john__> i dont know
[19:10] <fccf> jwfoxjr: the supported version is technically 5.0
[19:10] <KWhat_Work> There only eclipse 3.2 available in the repo ?
[19:10] <jwfoxjr> fccf: ok, but when I try to install 5.0 - I get errors, even when I completely remove 5.1
[19:10] <avegas> cabrey, you think it's sensible to reinstall vista before chatting with them?
[19:11] <frostburn> jwfoxjr, what errors
[19:11] <cabrey> avegas, is it a hardware problem?
[19:11] <elham> is there any people that installed "vidalia tor" on ubuntu 9.04?
[19:11] <jwfoxjr> frostburn: http://paste.ubuntu.com/191840/
[19:11] <avegas> cabrey, I believe so though I'm not much of an expert in diagnosing such matters
[19:12] <jwfoxjr> frostburn: keeps talking about "Aborting downgrade from (at least) 5.1 to 5.0
[19:12] <msk> frostburn: i will do fsck with force option, thanks for suggestion....
[19:12] <avegas> cabrey, any pointers on good tools/material to read to help with diagnosing my issues would be greatly appreciated
[19:12] <jwfoxjr> frostburn: this is after removing 5.1 and doing an autoremove
[19:12] <fccf> jwfoxjr: running 64 bit? - I think it had a bad download
[19:12] <cabrey> avegas, tbh i'm not sure what they will do. if you call try to urge that it is a hardware issue
[19:12] <edbian_> avegas: What exactly is the issue?  Does the system not boot ubuntu from the harddrive?
[19:12] <cabrey> avegas, worst comes to worst hang up. install vista, then call back
[19:13] <frostburn> jwfoxjr, do you want 5.0 or 5.1?   you may want to do an apt-get purge mysql-5.1  (idr the package name)
[19:13] <becksi> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI <- can I use those instructions for Hardy in Jaunty?
[19:13] <jwfoxjr> frostburn: I've done that and I still get the same errors when I try and put 5.0 on
[19:13] <frostburn> jwfoxjr, you may also consider downloading the precompiled binary from sun, they use the intel compiler rather than gcc
[19:13] <avegas> edbian_ , cabrey I'll post a link to nopaste with a brief summary momentarily
[19:13] <cporter> How do I force another user to logout?
[19:14] <frostburn> cporter, kill their session
[19:14] <cabrey> cporter, kill their processes?
[19:14] <yewk> cporter: ctrl alt f1 and login and kill their process
[19:14] <frostburn> cporter, man fuser
[19:14] <frostburn> cabrey, yewk, fuser is faster
[19:14] <MGollum> tx cabrey, i found what i was looking for
[19:14] <cabrey> yewk, you dont need to go to a virtual tty
[19:15] <cabrey> frostburn, thanks, noted
[19:15] <maxbaldwin> Does ubuntu (specifically, a recently updated&upgraded version of 9.04) have OpenGL installed by default
[19:15] <yewk> thanks for the heads up
[19:15] <cporter> Thanks, I'll just kill the gdm sessions
[19:15] <cabrey> maxbaldwin, yes
[19:15] <Dracofodder> is there anything, built in to ubuntu, or easily installable, to allow me to performance check my system?   I just doubled up the memory on this old desktop, and am wondering if there is a quantitative way to see if it did any good.
[19:16] <LjL> maxbaldwin: yes (it's required to run Compiz for a start)
[19:16] <squidly_> awesome!
[19:16] <fccf> Dracofodder: top or system>admin>systemmoniter
[19:16] <maxbaldwin> cabrey, LjL: Alright, then I know that's not the problem. Thanks!
[19:16] <cabrey> Dracofodder, run an intensive program like a prime number finder
[19:16] <squidly_> I just installed 9.04 - I am very impressed
[19:16] <heleen> Hello
[19:16] <Lounge> hello
[19:16] <fccf> !hi | heleen
[19:17] <fccf> heleen: can we help you with something today??
[19:17] <Dracofodder> cabrey: that would work for the mem... but step two in my update process is to add a better videocard.  would like to have one app to run, and check system.  then do it again after the next update.
[19:17] <mweichert> hello, is there any way to generate a debian package from an existing system? For example, I have a kernel installed on my system, and can display it using dpkg -l, but I would liket o generate a .deb package for that kernel to install on another machine. Is this possible?
[19:17] <Dracofodder> fccf:  I'll take a look thanks.!
[19:17] <elham> is there any body that worked with tor?
[19:17] <Lounge> heleen is learning ubunut via ssh
[19:18] <Lounge> i showed her how to use putty on her xp
[19:18] <fccf> mweichert: 3 days ago there was an excellent class held by 'mvo' in #ubuntu-classroom - topic packaging -- you might want to check the log available @ ...
[19:18] <fccf> !log
[19:18] <cabrey> Dracofodder, well no matter what, don't depend on glxgears
[19:19] <squidly_> !log
[19:19] <mweichert> fccf, thanks a lot. I had no idea there was such a channel
[19:19] <frostburn> jwfoxjr, it looks like there's still a 5.0 and 5.1 package installed, do a $dpkg --get-selections|grep mysql
[19:19] <uskrewed> quick question about usage
[19:19] <Lounge> i'm trying to get her to establish an tunneled vcn through her ssh connection to my second ubuntu tower
[19:19] <fccf> !channels
[19:19] <uskrewed> ubuntu seems to use hardly any ram, but tons of CPU usage
[19:19] <miodas> test message
[19:19] <rameshwo> !log
[19:19] <cabrey> test succeeded
[19:19] <uskrewed> is ther eany way to make it use more ram and less cpu?
[19:19] <petsounds> hello, is it safe to install mac4lin? thank you
[19:20] <cabrey> !details | uskrewed
[19:20] <frostburn> uskrewed, cpu and ram are mutually exclusive, increasing usage of one has no impact of usage of the other, unless we're talking about paging to disk, but that's completely different
[19:21] <avegas> edbian_,cabrey http://nopaste.org/p/akoz2ldSd
[19:21] <avegas> or, anybody else with hw know how
[19:22] <jwfoxjr> frostburn: goign to give this another shot - looks like I may have purged the entire system finally!
[19:22] <uskrewed> It's just confusing me because my CPU usage is very high (I'm using system monitor) like always above 60% and mem usage is very low (like 130mb) but on windows cpu usage was hardly above 40% and mem was 400
[19:22] <frostburn> avegas, you'll want to follow the same suggestion i had for another gentlemen, run a fsck --force /dev/sda1  (or whatever your partition is)  using a live cd, ubuntu, knoppix
[19:22] <rameshwo> anyone ? link to good visual  linux tutorials..
[19:22] <fccf> rameshwo: uhh ... youtube
[19:23] <cabrey> avegas, that does sound like a hdd problem. tho i had a similar issue with i/o errors but the hdd wasnt actually going
[19:23] <avegas> cabrey, yeah sucks
[19:23] <rameshwo> youtube doesn't have good quality....and most of them do different things then their name shows..
[19:23] <avegas> cabrey, maybe dell will let me just send them the hdd?
[19:23] <jwfoxjr> frostburn: ok - installed that time - must have been a library or something that didn't get removed - I just startted using 'purge' today...
[19:24] <schwarz_p> is it possible to export firefox saved passwords and then import them in epiphany?
[19:24] <jwfoxjr> frostburn: much better than 'remove'
[19:24] <frostburn> uskrewed, what process is using the cpu?   run a   $top    then hit shift P
[19:24] <mikejet> is there a channel to get help on OpenOffice Writer ? I want to know how to insert the "1/2" character into a document.
[19:24] <cabrey> avegas, that might work, tell them your hdd died and would like to get a new one as per your warrantry but first try what frostburn suggested
[19:24] <ruadh> Are there any internet browsers available for the  ubuntu server?
[19:24] <frostburn> ruadh, lynx, links2
[19:24] <ruadh> thanks
[19:25] <rameshwo> any good visual linux tutorial links ?? please.....
[19:25] <lakedenman> When I send multiple "ls" commands in a short amount of time or "ls" a directory with lots of files, to my ssh server, it drops internet connection.
[19:25] <coreyman> Anyone use flexbuilder?
[19:25] <fccf> coreyman: that would be very offtopic here
[19:26] <lakedenman> And I have to reboot it in order to get connection to the internetz again. :(
[19:26] <avegas> cabrey,frostburn, sounds like a plan, thanks for your help
[19:26] <uskrewed> frostburn: atm I'm ripping a dvd, but I was talking in general. the things using my cpu are konversation (IRC) pidgin, ktorrent, and skype. Aside from that it's just general ubuntu OS programs
[19:26] <coreyman> fccf and how do you figure? I have a question about something that has to do with ubuntu pertaining to my flexbuilder install
[19:26] <jwfoxjr> is it better to just use the lamp virtual package or install the individual lamp stack components?
[19:26] <cabrey> uskrewed, you have to be specific
[19:27] <frostburn> uskrewed, ripping a dvd should use all available cpu cycles
[19:27] <frostburn> if you want your desktop to be more responsive, you'll want to renice your dvd ripping program
[19:27] <fccf> coreyman: the builder doesn't run in ubuntu
[19:27] <uskrewed> I know, I'm not complaining about it being high now, I realize ripping a dvd puts lots of load. I'm speaking generally, like with the PC idling.
[19:27] <frgr> anybody here using ubuntu on a macbook with an international keyboard layout? how did you get all the keys to work?
[19:28] <uskrewed> would you like me to past the processes in here once I've finished my dvdripping?
[19:28] <frostburn> uskrewed, yep
[19:28] <uskrewed> okay
[19:28] <rameshwo> guys. please anyone can send me any old distros that they do not need now.. i need old ubuntu or others. coz i have little old computer ubuntu 2004/2005 would do
[19:28] <tvoet_> does anyone know of a fix for remote desktop on jaunty where the target computer doesn't refresh the screen?  for example i click on a button, don't see anything, but if i disconnect and reconnect the action occured fine
[19:28] <uskrewed> be back in 3 hours then
[19:29] <frostburn> frgr, you might want to check with the other ubuntu channels specific to the language you're using
[19:29] <frostburn> tvoet_, vnc or rdp?
[19:29] <frostburn> and what's the target os?
[19:30] <tvoet_> frostburn, i'm assuming VNC, it's the "Remote Desktop" bundled with ubuntu ( i'm going from Ubuntu Jaunty to Ubuntu Jaunty )
[19:30] <cabrey> tvoet_, yea thats VNC
[19:30] <frostburn> tvoet_, that's vnc, is it on the same network segment, or over a wan?
[19:30] <cabrey> tvoet_, honestly VNC sucks I would go with nx
[19:30] <tvoet_> frostburn, cabrey it's over ssh tunnel
[19:30] <rameshwo> will shipit ship me ubuntu of 2004\2005 ??
[19:31] <tvoet_> cabrey nx?
[19:31] <frostburn> i've had issues where vnc would have to send too much traffic and the connection would just crap out and i'd need to reconnect, i'm sure there's some buffer you can increase/decrease to tune performance
[19:31] <cabrey> !nx
[19:31] <cabrey> tvoet_, even better, nx uses ssh natively
[19:31] <tehwaffles> how do I use ssh with a key that does not have a pass phrase?
[19:31] <fccf> cabrey: please don't diss VNC .. it works very well for me .. I can sit at starbucks all day and access my server
[19:31] <tehwaffles> gives permission denied when I enter a blank pass phrase
[19:31] <cabrey> fccf, I get horrible lag even on the same LAN
[19:32] <tvoet_> does nx support other clients than linux, i occasionnally access it from a windows box
[19:32] <ozzmosis> tvoet_: yes
[19:32] <cabrey> tvoet_, yes, linux os x solaris windows etc
[19:32] <frostburn> tehwaffles, you'll need to provide the correct pass phrase or buy a timeslice on a cluster to crack it =]
[19:32] <tvoet_> they my next question might be stupid, but why isn't the default in Jaunty nx?
[19:32] <fccf> cabrey: I live in a place where 3mbit connections are commonplace so lagging is not an issue
[19:32] <tehwaffles> frostburn: I use the key with putty on windows and have never entered a passphrase iirc
[19:32] <mweichert> fccf, I cannot find out how to do exactly what I need to do. The classroom talks about building a .deb package from sources... however, I want to build a debian packages from the dpkg database
[19:32] <ozzmosis> tvoet_: the windows client isn't open source, afaik
[19:32] <Pici> rameshwo: I believe  they only send 9.04 CDs.
[19:33] <cabrey> fccf, no matter how much bandwidth i give it, it still lags
[19:33] <cabrey> tvoet_, no idea tbh
[19:33] <tvoet_> ozzmosis, is anything on windows ever open source?
[19:33] <tvoet_> tbh?
[19:33] <cporter> gdm crashed so I restarted my computer, and now user switching is gone from the quit applet...
[19:33] <mweichert> fccf, maybe this isn't possible?
[19:33] <ozzmosis> tvoet_: quite a lot these days actualy
[19:33] <rameshwo> Pici  ;  i feel the same  but i would be more happy in getting old distros..
[19:33] <sv_osusr> does anyone know how to build firefox with debug symbols turned on, the apt-get sources way.i want to trace my crash to the sources it was built with
[19:33] <ozzmosis> l
[19:33] <tvoet_> cabrey tbh?
[19:33] <cabrey> tvoet_, to be honest
[19:33] <fccf> cabrey: funny, I am using UltraVNC on a windows xp client ... works really well
[19:33] <tvoet_> cabrey thanks
[19:33] <rameshwo> can i get some good people who can send their old cds to me ??
[19:33] <cporter> Anyone know how to get the quit applet to show switch user again?
[19:33] <ozzmosis> rameshwo: what for?  (not that I have any)
[19:34] <fccf> rameshwo: why do you want people's old cd
[19:34] <fccf> s
[19:34] <cabrey> rameshwo, you can d/l 8.04
[19:34] <nocleader>  rameshwo: There are only bad people here :)
[19:34] <rameshwo> ozzmosis: pici :  i have old computer so ..  9.04 runs pretty slow...in my 256 mb ram and 735 mhz..
[19:34] <nlindblad> Has anyone had any success installing Ubuntu on a computer with an ATi 9600 card?
[19:34] <rameshwo> nocleader:  no . you're wrong....
[19:35] <cabrey> rameshwo, request a 9.04 cd, then install xubuntu-desktop
[19:35] <fccf> cporter: i think if you lock-screen you can switch from the lock screen
[19:35] <cabrey> nlindblad, use the open source drivers, its listed as working
[19:35] <ozzmosis> rameshwo: you can still download ISOs of the older versions.  xubuntu-desktop might be worth a look.  9.04 runs alright on an Asus 850 MHz laptop I have here.  256 MB RAM.
[19:35] <rameshwo> ozzmosis : cabrey : the problem.is . i have dial_up internet.. takes hours n hours ....
[19:36] <rameshwo> i would be happy if shipit would ship xubuntu for me..
[19:36] <cporter> fccf, I guess that will work...
[19:36] <cabrey> rameshwo, hmm borrow somebody else's connection?
[19:36] <mcphail> rameshwo: the older versions won't be any faster
[19:36] <snowrichard> is cheapbytes.com still around?
[19:36] <mneptok> rameshwo: Xubuntu is not available through Ship-It
[19:36] <Pici> !ot
[19:36] <mneptok> rameshwo: use a torrent download. it's usually faster, and easily resumes.
[19:36] <GIANTS2009> ALGUM BRASILEIRO NA SALA?\
[19:37] <Pici> !br | GIANTS2009
[19:37] <cabrey> rameshwo, what mcphail said. 9.04 is the fastest yet for me
[19:37] <mneptok> !pt > GIANTS2009
[19:37] <snowrichard> sorry but they do have inexpensive cds
[19:37] <JockyWilson> anyone here know much about Divx?
[19:37] <fccf> rameshwo: you can get almost any distro from ebay for like $3
[19:37] <finalbeta> !paste
[19:37] <cabrey> JockyWilson, it is a codec
[19:37] <ozzmosis> rameshwo: I think in your situation I'd borrow someone's broadband connection for a day, install 9.04 then apt-get xubuntu-desktop.
[19:38] <rameshwo> fccf:  i'm  a student i don't have such cards to pay . otherwise i would do it..
[19:38] <pro-rsoft> Why do I have to be root to access /dev/raw1394 ?
[19:38] <ozzmosis> where is edu.np?  Nepal?  hmm.
[19:38] <JockyWilson> i know cabrec, what is typical encoding time for = VOB 700mb file to Divx (Hardware amd 6000 8gb ram) it is taking 15mins surely it should be much quicker?
[19:38] <frostburn> pro-rsoft, that's not userspace
[19:39] <rameshwo> yes  NEPAL......
[19:39] <JockyWilson> i eexpect well under 5 minutes?
[19:39] <cabrey> JockyWilson, what encoder?
[19:39] <rameshwo> ozzmosis  nEPAL..
[19:39] <pro-rsoft> frostburn, well I'd like to be able to get videos from my camera without having to run as root
[19:39] <ozzmosis> rameshwo: ok :)
[19:39]  * pro-rsoft uses "kino" btw
[19:39] <fccf> pro-rsoft: are you using dvgrab?
[19:39] <ozzmosis> JockyWilson: the encoder may only be using a single core
[19:40] <pro-rsoft> fccf, no idea, I just used kino
[19:40] <mrmac> eist
[19:40] <avegas> \q
[19:40] <JockyWilson> i thought about 2 minutes max was pushing it
[19:40] <fccf> pro-rsoft: if you install dvgrab and use it from the command line - it will output compliant mpeg
[19:40] <mneptok> rameshwo: you might want to join the Nepal Team and see if one of the other members can help you - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NepalTeam
[19:40] <Guest14225> i recently installed ubuntu along side my windows vista home premium operating system, the only problem i have right now is, i cannot get any sound, my sound card is a SOUND MAX INTEGRATED DIGITAL HD > can anyone help me
[19:41] <cabrey> JockyWilson, what encoder? and 700mb of mpeg2 video -> divx is still a lot of data to crunch through....
[19:41] <frostburn> pro-rsoft, then use hald the way it's supposed to be used
[19:41] <rameshwo> mneptok  : many thanks. i didn't know ..
[19:41] <ozzmosis> Guest14225: do you know if Ubuntu supports it?
[19:41] <Guest14225> no
[19:41] <glagios> i dont know
[19:41] <glagios> w8 a sec
[19:42] <jmk6f4> I've got an issue with dual monitors and gaming, and I'm trying to understand metamodes but it won't seem to work.  Anyone have any insight on what I'm doing wrong?
[19:42] <JockyWilson> how come dvdshrink can analyse and encode 7gb in under 10 minutes?
[19:42] <ozzmosis> Guest14225: it's possible it doesn't.  I'd google but I don't have access to a browser at the moment.
[19:42] <Dracofodder> fccf: , cabrey:  I think I found what I need..  your suggestions are ok for live checking of stats, but I found an app called "Hardinfo".  I'm still working through its reports, but appears to have what I need to verify objectively if the changes I'm making are doing any real good.
[19:42] <JockyWilson> thats typical time i can rip dvd
[19:42] <Guest14225> how can i find that out
[19:42] <glagios> i need help
[19:42] <glagios> kopetet
[19:42] <JockyWilson> and divx cant encode 700mb vob file in under 15 miuntes?
[19:42] <ozzmosis> JockyWilson: dvdshrink isn't really reencoding, just dropping mpeg2 data at certain intervals
[19:43] <magyar_> hi, what package do i need for ubuntu to be able to do build from tgz source code?
[19:43] <fccf> !ask | glagios
[19:43] <cabrey> JockyWilson, ripping a dvd is much different from encoding
[19:43] <Treyh> how many gigs of memory can ubuntu 9.04 server 64bit see?
[19:43] <cabrey> JockyWilson, and please tell us the encoder you are using
[19:43] <frostburn> magyar_, build-essential
[19:43] <pro-rsoft> magyar, build-essenteial
[19:43] <pro-rsoft> meh
[19:43] <dayo> where can i download the entire 8.04 repo?
[19:43] <pro-rsoft> frostburn wins
[19:43] <dayo> i need an italian mirror
[19:43] <ozzmosis> Treyh: all of them
[19:43] <cabrey> dayo, rsync
[19:43] <pro-rsoft> fccf, thanks
[19:43] <frostburn> Treyh, the limit is higher than most commercial motherboards =p
[19:43] <cabrey> !mirror
[19:43] <nlindblad> The Live-CD goes into a display mode the graphic card supports but the monitor doesn't
[19:43] <pro-rsoft> frostburn, I don't know about "hald"
[19:44] <magyar_> frostburn, does it include "Tcl/Tk 8.4, a C++ compiler"
[19:44] <fccf> pro-rsoft: did dvgrab work?
[19:44] <JockyWilson> i am using Total Video Converter to convert vob to divx
[19:44] <frostburn> pro-rsoft, what kind of device are you trying to retrieve images from?
[19:44] <pro-rsoft> frostburn, a digital camcorder
[19:44] <owen1> i can't record with audacity when using logitech desktop mic. anyone using this mic?
[19:44] <dayo> cabrey: yeah, but i'm probably going to have to put a url as argument to the rsync? ;-)
[19:44] <ozzmosis> JockyWilson: is that under Ubuntu?  I haven't heard of that
[19:44] <pro-rsoft> frostburn, if I run kino as root it works
[19:44] <cabrey> JockyWilson, that is a windows based program
[19:44] <Treyh> frostburn, so 8 gigs on a dell power edge server wouldn't max it otu?
[19:44] <pro-rsoft> fccf, dvgrab also requires root rights
[19:45] <ozzmosis> Treyh: 8 GB is fine for 64-bit
[19:45] <frostburn> magyar_, gcc can compile most anything under the sun
[19:45] <JockyWilson> no it is in windows, linux video encoding is a nightmare just to buggy from experience
[19:45] <frostburn> Treyh, no, we have boxes with over 128gb
[19:45] <cabrey> JockyWilson, so you are using windows software in ubuntu and wonder why it is slow?
[19:46] <ozzmosis> frostburn: what do you do with all that memory? :)
[19:46] <frostburn> ozzmosis, database
[19:46] <magyar_> frostburn, gcc is part of build-essential?
[19:46] <ozzmosis> frostburn: ah :)
[19:46] <tvoet_> cabrey, trying to setup FreeNx, and getting weird issues, could not connect to NX server
[19:46] <JockyWilson> i have several OS on harddrive multiboot
[19:46] <ozzmosis> magyar_: gcc is one of build-essential's dependencies
[19:46] <tvoet_> i can ssh normally both public key and not.
[19:47] <JockyWilson> always return to windows for video encoding
[19:47] <magyar_> hmm, i see g++ no gcc
[19:47] <ozzmosis> JockyWilson: I use mencoder for video encoding.  dvd -> xvid.
[19:47] <cabrey> tvoet_, nx uses its own ssh username & keys, then it su's to the user you want
[19:47] <JockyWilson> first time i try to encode to divx and it is a pig, slow ashell
[19:48] <cabrey> JockyWilson, what software is slow? total video converter?
[19:48] <s0101> I cant install updates with my update manager
[19:48] <s0101> can i get some help?
[19:48] <pro-rsoft> Never mind. I'll just add chmod rules.
[19:48] <cabrey> !details | s0101
[19:48] <frostburn> magyar_, yes
[19:49] <nlindblad> Can I force a refresh rate on the Live-CD?
[19:49] <fccf> JockyWilson: I have done quite a bit of encoding with dvd::rip .. yes it is slow... you are encoding video -- mulitpass --- gunna take time...
[19:49] <ozzmosis> nlindblad: I think so
[19:49] <rameshwo> #ubuntu
[19:49] <frostburn> s0101, what's the error?
[19:49] <nlindblad> ozzmosis: How? Can't find the correct flags
[19:49] <s0101> I see the window with the updates but when i press install nothing happends
[19:49] <JockyWilson> not the software the encoding time for a 700mb vob file is a joke 15mins+
[19:49] <s0101> belive me i am not stupid this is not my first update ;)
[19:49] <tvoet_> cabrey, nice i just got locked out of my machine.  everytime i try to login, i get a too many authentication failures
[19:49] <cabrey> JockyWilson, what software were you using that was taking 15 minutes?
[19:50] <s0101> it suddenly
[19:50] <s0101> happen
[19:50] <JockyWilson> TotalVideoiConverter
[19:50] <cabrey> tvoet_, what do you mean? you got locked out from the server machine?
[19:50] <frostburn> s0101, can you run the update manually, sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get upgrade
[19:50] <ozzmosis> nlindblad: flags?  whereabouts?  you can set the refresh rate in the display settings from inside GNOME.
[19:50] <fccf> JockyWilson: I don't know of software in linux that would do that -- even on new hardware --- TotalVideoConverter is not supported here
[19:50] <s0101> everytime i do that i get that window with update manager
[19:51] <tvoet_> cabrey, meaning i was SSH'ed into the machine when i tried to run the setup, and when i restarted the SSH process, i can't login anymore ( with any of the account si have on the machine )
[19:51] <cabrey> JockyWilson, we can't help you with that. it is windows software running under wine I'm assuming
[19:51] <s0101> omg
[19:51] <JockyWilson> is there a simple (fast) vob to divx converter in linux?
[19:51] <frostburn> JockyWilson, handbrake
[19:51] <s0101> you right i cant do that from  the terminal
[19:51] <Pici> !enter | s0101
[19:51] <s0101> i could before
[19:51] <JockyWilson> or vob to xvid in linux?
[19:52] <tvoet_> cabrey, it royally messed up my SSH, no way in anymore.  have to wait to get home to try and UNDO from the actual console.  even my gitosis setup got fried
[19:52] <frostburn> s0101, ps -ef|grep synaptic
[19:52] <nlindblad> ozzmosis: The Live-CD won't start properly
[19:52] <hafid> ya qlq1 ki parle francaisd ici
[19:52] <fccf> JockyWilson: you would want to do it from the command line ... and that you will have to learn... as in teach yourself
[19:52] <fccf> !fr | hafid
[19:53] <cabrey> tvoet_, that doesnt make any sense. nx should use the existing ssh service
[19:53] <nlindblad> ozzmosis: Even with "safe graphics mode" it will go blank and the monitor states that the input is "out of range"
[19:53] <ozzmosis> JockyWilson: mencoder is pretty simple once you understand how to use it.
[19:53] <s0101> wierd now it works i had this problem for a week but now i only get 14 mb of 147 mb
[19:53] <nlindblad> ozzmosis: I need to configure the graphics manually before the live-cd starts
[19:53] <sebsebseb> hi
[19:53] <tvoet_> cabrey, but like you said it inserts itself into the process, so now none of my users can login that way.
[19:53] <onyx> so how to save like (windows) batch file on ubuntu
[19:53] <newUbux> hello.. I am new. I cannot download anything by clicking on the community documentation links. i have done the apturl config thing, but I ALWAYS get the " could not find package '....' " dialogue box!! do you guys know why is that?
[19:53] <ozzmosis> nlindblad: ah, I see.  I'm sure there's a workaround for that but I don't know what it is, sorry :)
[19:53] <tvoet_> cabrey, the service is still there, but i can't ssh into any of my user accounts
[19:54] <frostburn> newUbux, do a sudo apt-get update     to get an update repository
[19:54] <cabrey> tvoet_, no what it does is create a nx user and the client logs in through that, but it shouldnt mess with anything
[19:54] <sim-value> IM currently formating a USB drive with ext3 ist this a good idea ?
[19:54] <newUbux> ok
[19:55] <ozzmosis> sim-value: not if you want to see the files on it under Windows
[19:55] <tvoet_> cabrey, ok, but it did.  i will check when i get home.
[19:55] <mcphail> sim-value: very good idea if you only use it on linux boxes
[19:55] <lakedenman> Hi All, when I ssh into a box on my local network and send the "ls" command multiple times (basically hammering), the ssh server's internet connection drops. I have to manually reboot the box to revive internet. Has anyone witnessed something like this before?
[19:55] <Myrtti> sim-value: if you don't mind it to be accessible only in Linux and similar systems out of the box
[19:55] <sim-value> Yes i want to boot from it
[19:55] <fccf> !usb | sim-value
[19:56] <velcroshooz> there use to be this little program that you could run and when you mouse over anything on your desktop it shows the RGB color code .. anyone remember the name of it?
[19:56] <hafid> ya qlq1 ki parle francaisd ici
[19:56] <cporter> gksu nautilus
[19:56] <ozzmosis> lakedenman: sounds like a hardware fault.  I assume the server is freezing.
[19:57] <lakedenman> ozzmosis: the connection drops (internet, ssh). The server still runs fine. Just drops internet.
[19:58] <ozzmosis> lakedenman: ah.  anything in the logs?
[19:58] <newUbux> i did the sudo update thing, should I install all the updates?
[19:59] <ozzmosis> lakedenman: you could try restarting the ssh server, then restarting the network interfaces .. narrows it down slightly, I suppose...
[19:59] <fccf> velcroshooz: the name of the package you are looking for is grabc
[19:59] <newUbux> why do i still get so many updates? i thought 9.0 is the new version
[20:00] <ozzmosis> newUbux: unless you have a good reason not to, generally yes
[20:00] <ozzmosis> newUbux: they are security updates
[20:00] <velcroshooz> fccf: thank you
[20:01] <fccf> velcroshooz: np
[20:01] <ozzmosis> newUbux: for example Firefox 3.0.9 (??) was supplied on the Ubuntu 9.04 CD, but Firefox 3.0.10 has since been released, a security update...
[20:01] <sebsebseb> newUbux: Ubuntu only does security updates, unlike other distros
[20:01] <ozzmosis> (??) = or maybe 3.0.8, I don't recall
[20:04] <newUbux> i have 3.0.8 right now
[20:04] <newUbux> ok
[20:05] <newUbux> let's c if it works now
[20:06] <newUbux> oh, yeah, it does
[20:06] <newUbux> thank you. and linux rocks!!
[20:07] <Maximo> !hello
[20:07] <eurythmia> newUbux, you're preaching to the choir ;)
[20:08] <newUbux> lol
[20:10] <newUbux> why can't I go to google now? i get the assertion failed error
[20:11] <fccf> newUbux: did you update? do you need to restart firefox?
[20:11] <_Roke_> Hi guys, I have a laptop and I'm having a problem with the sound system when I pluged in my headfone the speakers still working. I have the Ubuntu 9.04 installed anybody can help about it?
[20:12] <AceKing> Can someone help me? I'm trying to share a printer through my home network
[20:13] <ratzes> _Roke_: have you messed with the volume settings?
[20:13] <newUbux> says engine has no file
[20:13] <noah76> ciaoo
[20:13] <ratzes> _Roke_:  most of the time i've fixed my sound issues by just screwing around with all the different volume settings
[20:13] <Myrtti> !it | noah76
[20:13] <noah76> !list
[20:14] <noah76> Hi
[20:14] <sylvanus_> Is there anything like google earth for Ubuntu 9.04?
[20:14] <noah76> how i can get list here
[20:14] <Myrtti> noah76: this is not a file sharing channel.
[20:14] <crdlb> !googleearth | sylvanus_
[20:14] <okami> anyone running ubuntu on a macbook pro?
[20:14] <rameshwo> i think earth 3d ?
[20:15] <linuxpoet> What option am I missing in Evolution to have it properly import vcs files
[20:16] <antibody> !duplicate
[20:16] <sylvanus_> How do I do all this I tried to download the linux version and I could open it with anything!
[20:16] <antibody> !replicate
[20:16] <antibody> grrr..
[20:16] <Myrtti> !clone > antibody
[20:17] <antibody> ty
[20:17] <terry> how can i chat with my web cam
[20:17] <_Roke_> ratzes: I've tried to use the sound settings but It does not work at all. I've heard something about alsa sorround because I've noticed that that sound is divided in my speakers and headfone
[20:18] <arber4444> hello everyone how to install camera drivers
[20:18] <sylvanus_> what is the medibuntu repository?
[20:18] <arber4444>  hello everyone how to install camera drivers
[20:18] <arber4444>  hello everyone how to install camera drivers
[20:19] <arber4444> im on hurry
[20:19] <arber4444> pls
[20:19] <AceKing> arber4444: what kind of camera? web cam, digital camera?
[20:19] <sweetde> arber4444 if youre in a hurry, just plug it in & see if it works.
[20:20] <LakotaBrave> sylvanus: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu
[20:20] <sweetde> does anyone know the simplest way to forward ports in ubuntu?
[20:20] <susbwoy> !camera
[20:20] <arber4444> aceking yes
[20:20] <arber4444> AceKing Yes digital camera
[20:21] <AceKing> arber4444: like sweetde said, plug it in
[20:21] <arber4444> dosent work
[20:21] <arber4444> i we try it
[20:21] <fccf> !webcam
[20:22] <AceKing> arber4444: check in "Computer" to see if it's showing up as a drive
[20:22] <frostburn> sweetde, iptables
[20:22] <arber4444> where
[20:22] <sam555> hello all!
[20:22] <jdnwest> Just wanted to say thanks to all the developers, the new ubuntu rocks.
[20:22] <turbopfeife> olla
[20:22] <fccf> !hi |sam555
[20:22] <sam555> was wondering if I upgrade from 8.04 to 8.10 then 8.10 to 9.04 will this affect my winxp partition?
[20:23] <xeen> hi
[20:23] <xeen> is there someone ?
[20:23] <fccf> sam555: nope
[20:23] <turbopfeife> no, not at all
[20:23] <sam555> fccf: awesome!
[20:23] <jdnwest> sam555: the installer on 9.04 will offer to import your files and you user profiles
[20:23] <xeen> how can i see , who is all in this channel ?
[20:23] <jdnwest> from your windows install, its pretty sweet
 thx, was afraid of that.  i tried putting one in, but when I try 'sudo iptables --list', nothing is listed.
[20:23] <sam555> jdnwest: cool
[20:23] <Myrtti> xeen: type /names
[20:23] <jdnwest> xeen: i'm showing 1529 people in this chan...
[20:23] <sam555> sounds like it!
[20:23] <ltcabral> how can i CAT all the results from a find at once?
[20:24] <fccf> xeen: hello - please ask question
[20:24] <turbopfeife> yes, in8.10 it was so too,but only by an enlish xp version
[20:24] <regeya> !ask
[20:24] <xeen> ok nice^^ thx, but was not my main question..... how can i hide my online ip in irc  with xchat
[20:24] <frostburn> sweetde, what did you use to add the rule?
[20:24] <ubuntu> hello i need help with this http://pastebin.com/dbe268df
[20:24] <xeen> Is there any other irc client to use on ubuntu ?
[20:24] <Myrtti> xeen: that's not possible with any irc client, but you can ask the freenode staff to hide it in this network in #freenode
[20:24] <arash_> is there a psd previewer for linux (not gimp)?
[20:24] <ubuntu> yes there are
[20:25] <Axz> i have a question about Radeon HD drivers is there stable one to be installed? that will also work with Monitor standby
[20:26] <supersasho> hi.. sometimes in arecord -l i don't have listed my usb webcam microphone, any idea why? it can be "repaired" by rebooting, but this is an anoying solution
[20:26] <fccf> arash_: kuickshow will view psd's
[20:26] <ravn1> hi guys, I have a problem with the new ubuntu - in some tasks, e.g. such as getting an open dialog or opening a new mail in evolution the main window grays out and the ask does not respond for some 10 -60 seconds. This is a new problem that appeared to me since a week or so. Any ideas?
[20:27] <Siesta> hi, how would I run the ubuntu ISO from vmware player?
[20:27] <Elda> Quick question.... dont remember it offhand but what is the command to remove a package I didnt want to install?
[20:27] <jeeves> how do I repair an apt-get error on libc6?
[20:28] <fccf> Siesta: in ubuntu or windows
[20:28] <Elda> I did not do so through the package manager and I cant seem to do so by the gui
[20:28] <Siesta> in windows
[20:28] <ubuntu> ubuntu
 sudo iptables -t nat -I PREROUTING -d 192.168.96.1 -p tcp -m tcp --dport 37 -j DNAT --to-destination 192.168.1.31
[20:28] <sweetde> really, I should ask the question to everyone more generally.  I had a working Tivo connection to my vmware XP client in my Ubuntu64 server.  Then I started using a wireless card instead of eth cable.  So vmware no longer lets me bridge eth connections with wireless devices, so I had to start using NAT, and now XP can't see the Tivo box.  So my idea is to forward the tivo ports to/from the internal NAT.
[20:28] <papapep> Elda: how did you install it?
[20:28] <ubuntu> 9.04 from a usb
[20:28] <okami> anyone running ubuntu on a macbook pro?
[20:28] <Elda> double clicked it
[20:28] <Elda> was an rpm
[20:28] <Elda> the only thing I get is to reinstall it when I do that though
[20:28] <papapep> Elda: then go to synaptic and remove it
[20:28] <Elda> I cant find it in there
[20:28] <fccf> siesta: vmware has prebuilt virtual applications available -easier than fresh install in vmware
[20:28] <Elda> trying to remove acetone as I installed the wrong version
[20:29] <Elda> but its not in there
[20:29] <fccf> !enter | Elda
[20:29] <Elda> oh bite me >.<
[20:29] <fccf> !attitude | Elda
[20:29] <guess> hi all
[20:29] <fccf> !hi | guess
[20:29] <frostburn> sweetde, that makes me want to cry a little =(  you need to forward traffic from your wireless, to your vm, them from your vm to tivo?
[20:30] <ubuntu> ??
[20:30] <jeeves> anyone on this apt-get issue?  "Internal Error, Could not perform immediate configuration (2) on libc6"
[20:30] <gh0st> does anybody know of any chatting software that is compatible with webcam chat? Ekiga REFUSES to work with me it wont register or de-register accounts, aMSN just freezes, and skype wont work on my netbook (9.04 remix) i'm going away to base and would like to keep in contact with my family
[20:30] <lucasbonini> Hi folks. Somebody speaks portughese here?
[20:30] <Elda> fccf, I did not ask you for answers though so that doesn't apply.  ;)
[20:30] <frostburn> gh0st, skype
[20:31] <fccf> Elda: following irc guidelines does
[20:31] <reggie_> hi
[20:31] <fccf> !guidelines | Elda
[20:31] <frostburn> gh0st, what netbook?
[20:31] <gh0st> frostburn: Skype will not work on 9.04 UNR
[20:31] <frostburn> gh0st, it works in mine and video chat works fine
[20:31] <Axz> i'll have a question about Radeon HD drivers is there stable one to be installed? that will also work with Monitor standby
 I know, sorry its hard to explain.   I need to forward traffic from the wireless nic to the internal network that vmware forced me to set up.  and vice-versa.
[20:32] <gh0st> frostburn: acer aspire one, the password field goes insane, it thinks im holding down the underscore button. its the only area/prog that does that
 so Tivo is 192.168.1.10, wireless nic is 192.168.1.31.  XP machine is now 192.168.96.128
[20:32] <gh0st> frostburn: ive even tryed writing my password into gedit, then pasting it in, it doesnt work.
[20:32] <Dracofodder> ltcabral:   have you tried something like "find . -name Things* 2>/dev/null -exec cat {} \;"    this example assumes I'm looking for all files starting with "Things".... and I figured this out from http://www.linuxclues.com/articles/19.htm
[20:32] <Elda> If anything that might even be close to flooding.  But I wasnt spamming the same line.  Rather I was thinking to include info after I'd typed something and oversight on my part of course.  Several triggers may border on bot abuse no? :>
[20:33] <iphony> hello?
[20:33] <iphony> hello?
[20:33] <Elda> Hello
[20:34] <buntufans> any webchat in irc?
[20:34] <fccf> Elda: I don't want to fight with you - but if we have to - I am in #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:34] <turbopfeife_> /msg NickServ register holzi1969 dh6974@yahoo.de
[20:34] <frostburn> gh0st, do you have a stuck key? sudo cat /dev/psaux
[20:34] <buntufans> any webcam chat in irc?
 I would have thought the simple routing table would forward the traffic because any packet going to 192.168.96.x should go through 'vmnet8' device.  but Tivo stopped working, as well as at least one other service I had running on XP
[20:34] <gh0st> frostburn: no stuck keys, its the only field doing this, and the only program
[20:35] <fccf> buntufans: this is the ubuntu support channel - you might want to type /list for a list of channels on this server
[20:35] <buntufans> thanks
[20:35] <gh0st> frostburn:besides, pasting in my password would have eliminated that issue :)
[20:35] <frostburn> sweetde, that's hard to troubleshoot since i don't know what tivo requires for operation, i'd run a wireshark/tcpdump off the line that the tivo is connected to and see what ports it's using
[20:35] <iphony> hello? i am not getting too much feedbakc in the kubuntu channel so i came here hoping someone might have some know how about kubuntu
[20:36] <iphony> does anyone know if there's a yast equivalent for kubuntu?
[20:36] <papapep> iphony: you mean a package manager?
[20:37] <Elda> Anywhoo the program itself "AcetoneISO" does not start up in synaptic package manager. ((as seen as http://www.getdeb.net/search.php?keywords=acetoneiso)) so by which other method may I remove it?  I seem to recall there was a command to do so but I am unable to recall it.
[20:37] <iphony> no, more like full system configuration in one place
[20:37] <fretegi> hey guys
[20:37] <Elda> Rather start up, I mean that it does not show up sorry for the misplaced word.
[20:38] <papapep> iphony: well, you've got the Administration menu. It's some kind of that..
[20:38] <fretegi> sooooo... anyone here proficient with ati-drivers and jaunty?
[20:38] <papapep> oh, sorry, forgot you said on KDE
[20:38] <Elda> fretegi, I might be able to help
[20:38] <papapep> don't know how it works
[20:38] <Elda> What issues are you having?
[20:38] <frostburn> sweetde, if it were me, i'd redesign the network too, i'd have a single dedicated box for wireless traffic, pfsense, or something running dd-wrt then all other connections tivo, windows vm off of that
[20:39] <frostburn> Elda, run it in a terminal and see if there's any error output
[20:39] <iphony> i also wanna know if there's something like gui 'network tools' for kubuntu
[20:39] <rascal999> is there an easier way in customizing ubuntu than squashfs?
[20:40] <papapep> iphony: gnome-network-manager
[20:40] <papapep> arg
[20:40] <papapep> don't listen to me
[20:40] <turbopfeife> holla@all
[20:40] <iphony> no, i am looking for kde
[20:40] <fccf> iphony: gnome apps will run in kde
[20:41] <jdu> rascal999, customizing a livecd?
[20:41] <Elda> One sec while I pull up the error.
[20:42] <``y7> can anybody please help me with this issue.... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7423491&posted=1#post7423491 ?
[20:43] <nsahoo> is there a way to remove text labels from under the buttons in File Browser and Document Viewer?
[20:43] <jdu> ``y7, what happens if one restarts networking instead of restarting the computer?
[20:44] <lostson> nsahoo: yes
[20:44] <nsahoo> lostson: how?
[20:44] <schwarz_p> i've tried to make epiphany the default browser on xubuntu
[20:44] <schwarz_p> but it doesn't really do what I want
[20:44] <schwarz_p> evolution keeps taking FF as default
[20:45] <lorenzo> hi, what software do you recommend for a full systema backup? thanks
[20:45] <schwarz_p> can somebody help me please
[20:45] <lostson> nsahoo: system --> preferences --> appearance --> interface instead of text below items change it to say icons only
[20:45] <nsahoo> lostson: thanks
[20:45] <rjune_> schwarz_p: evolution is a GNOME app. I'm guessing you need to set the default browser in GNOME
[20:45] <avegas> no smartmontools in 64 bit jaunty?
[20:45] <frostburn> schwarz_p,  sudo update-alternatives –config x-www-browser
[20:46] <schwarz_p> rjune_ i did that, using gconf-editor
[20:46] <schwarz_p> frostburn: i'll try that
[20:46] <rjune_> schwarz_p: then you're beyond me. I don't use gnome or xfde
[20:46] <frostburn> avegas, sudo apt-get install smartmontools
[20:49] <Aiween> hi
[20:49] <fccf> !hi | Aiween
[20:50] <Aiween> hi fccf and ubottu
[20:50] <manpoole> my ethernet is not working on my m61 onboard nvidia lan yet it does assign me an ip address
[20:50] <Elda> hahaha, hello Aiween
[20:51] <schwarz_p> frostburn: the terminal says: -config unknown argument
[20:51] <frostburn> schwarz_p, two dashes --
[20:53] <schwarz_p> frostburn: i did that and set epiphany-gecko to default (it was already like this) but FF stays chef
[20:53] <Mike_lifeguard> How do I replace the normal window decorator with emerald?
[20:53] <Mike_lifeguard> I have it installed and whatnot...
[20:54] <fccf> !info vinagre
[20:54] <jf> How do I disable a enabled driver from "Restricted hardware drivers" without GUI?
[20:54] <hellues> hey
[20:54] <hellues> hey ubuntu user
[20:54] <frostburn> Mike_lifeguard, emerald --replace
[20:55] <hellues> firefox 3.6 aqnd 3.5 gives that *NOTICE* No previous firefox profile found, starting with a fresh one
[20:55] <hellues> Segmentation fault
[20:55] <hellues> how can i fix that
[20:55] <TuGa> hello
[20:56] <roysunshine92> hi all, i have a problem with my mouse, it losts the button 2, the scroll wheel, and i cannot use it, and xev doesn't sees it, so it seems to not exist.any help^?
[20:56] <TuGa> i need to reintal my ubun9.04 but first i need to backup some files i have created with the user on the actual ubuntu9.04. using a ubuntu livecd how can i change to permissions to copy the files to a pen?
[20:57] <hellues> stupid ubuntu
[20:57] <hellues> stupid nfirefox
[20:57] <Reysan> ciao
[20:57] <jdu> TuGa, to copy files off the disk, you should not need to change any permissions; insert the usb stick and copy them.
[20:57] <Arme> Hi.... I have strange problem with Kubuntu 9.04. I used to use Kubuntu 8.04 and all was OK. But know I see something like this: http://img216.yfrog.com/img216/4113/zrzucik3.png
[20:58] <Arme> Have anybody idea, how to fix it?
[20:58] <d1gital> WWHY must resizing partitions TAKE SO LONG
[20:58] <papapep> Arme: have you tried disabling desktop effects? (if they are enabled)
[20:59] <Arme> papapep: This was the first I've done. I hate all this effects
[20:59] <jdu> I had the problem too (though not as bad) and it was w/o desktop effects
[21:00] <PerryArmstrong> hey I am trying to read a cd and the cd drive shows cannot mount the file though its able to read other cds...can anyone help me
[21:01] <jdu> PerryArmstrong, can other cd drives read this cd?
[21:01] <unr3a1> hey all
[21:01] <PerryArmstrong> jdu; yes
[21:01] <unr3a1> my flash plugin player for firefox is really messed up
[21:01] <PerryArmstrong> jdu; i checked it on my friends system on XP
[21:01] <unr3a1> flash video never plays right, flash applications are either wicked slow, or dont work at all.  is there anything that I can do?
[21:03] <jdu> PerryArmstrong, the cd may be formatted in a way that ubuntu will not read by default.
[21:03] <PerryArmstrong> jdu; so what to do?
[21:03] <ennen> unr3a1: eschew flash altogether?
[21:03] <PerryArmstrong> jdu; do i have to mount it manually
[21:03] <jdu> PerryArmstrong, if that is the case, find out what format it is, and try to mount it manually
[21:03] <unr3a1> ennen, eschew?
[21:03] <magyar_> hi, how do i change default locale in ubuntu?
[21:04] <ennen> unr3a1: "to avoid habitually especially on moral or practical grounds"
[21:04] <PerryArmstrong> jdu; can you tell me how i can mount it...the command
[21:04] <ratzes> ennen: you probably should avoid words like that in the future
[21:04] <unr3a1> ennen, lol... unfortunately a lot of sites are flash dependant (youtube)
[21:05] <ennen> ratzes: i suppose so
[21:05] <ratzes> ennen: lol
[21:05] <jdu> PerryArmstrong, mount -t <file system type> /dev/<device> <mount point>
[21:05] <roysunshine92> hi all, i have a problem with my mouse, it losts the button 2, the scroll wheel, and i cannot use it, and xev doesn't sees it, so it seems to not exist.any help^?
[21:05] <jdu> PerryArmstrong, where device would be something like scd0 and mount point can be any directory
[21:05] <Mike_lifeguard> frostburn: will that stick when I restart etc?
[21:06] <Mike_lifeguard> frostburn: (emerald --replace)
[21:06] <frostburn> Mike_lifeguard, probably not, i have mine run at boot
[21:06] <frostburn> system > pref > startup
[21:06] <unr3a1> ennen, seriously though, what can I do to try and resolve my flash player woes?
[21:06] <Mike_lifeguard> yeah, k -- thanks, eh?
[21:06] <PerryArmstrong> jdu; how do i find out the /dev/(device)  ... like how would i know what to write here???
[21:06] <ruadh>  /q
[21:07] <tunnlrat> how do i change the ownership of an HD, i can mount it and browse on it, but i can't read or write to it
[21:07] <hellues> stupid ubuntu
[21:07] <ennen> unr3a1: got me. i've never much cared for flash
[21:07] <roysunshine92> hi all, i have a problem with my mouse, it losts the button 2, the scroll wheel, and i cannot use it, and xev doesn't sees it, so it seems to not exist.any help^?
[21:07] <frostburn> PerryArmstrong, what are you trying to do?
[21:07] <PerryArmstrong> frostburn; mount my cd drive
[21:08] <keymoo> hi how do i find out what graphics card i have without having to open up my case?
[21:08] <frostburn> PerryArmstrong, ls -l /dev/disk/by-label/
[21:08] <d1gital> PerryArmstrong:  your fstab probably already has the entry for filesystem and such, just do mount /media/cdrom0
[21:08] <frostburn> keymoo, lspci
[21:08] <keymoo> frostburn, thanks
[21:08] <TuGa> jdu, hello. using the usb pen wend i try the copy/paste operation i get that error
[21:09] <roysunshine92> hi all, i have a problem with my mouse, it losts the button 2, the scroll wheel, and i cannot use it, and xev doesn't sees it, so it seems to not exist.any help^?
[21:09] <gabriel_> Hi everyone
[21:09] <chaos2fu> roysunshine92 is it fysically broken?
[21:09] <roysunshine92> anyone could help^t.t
[21:10] <d1gital> roysunshine92:  i guess you could try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[21:10] <gabriel_> I have a question: what is the difference between ext3 and ext4? I upgraded to ubuntu 9.04, but it still uses ext3
[21:10] <mmm4m5m> Do you people use gdesklets or adesklets? Does it slow you PC? (do not smile at my question :) ... usually I skip all visual effects - all)
[21:10] <roysunshine92> no chaos, ubuntu simply stop seeing when i press it
[21:10] <unr3a1> hmm... does anyone else know what I can do to try and restore flash to working condition?
[21:10] <chaos2fu> gabriel_ ext4 is still beta if im not wrong...;-)
[21:10] <pablo__> sera
[21:11] <unr3a1> like I cant even use sites like speedtest.net because flash is screwing up on me
[21:11] <gabriel_> but what is the difference?
[21:11] <sebsebseb> gabriel_: Ext4  is faster
[21:11] <frostburn> chaos2fu, gabriel_ ext4 is shipped on default, but if you upgraded you need to manually change your filesystem to ext4
[21:11] <redphp> hello
[21:11] <redphp> can anybody help me?
[21:11] <PerryArmstrong> frostburn; says no such file or directory
[21:11] <sebsebseb> gabriel_: better with bigger files and such
[21:11] <sebsebseb> chaos2fu: no it's final, just a few minor issues with it still in Ubuntu anyway
[21:11] <gabriel_> ok, I have an AMD Athlon x2 3800+ with 2 GB DDR 667 ram
[21:11] <redphp> my ubuntu could not connect with my router
[21:12] <chaos2fu> sebsebseb I have read and heard that file corruption is a big problem in ext4?
[21:12] <roysunshine92> d1gital well i already tried it, but it doesn't do anything.it simply makes me reconfigure the keypad.
[21:12] <PerryArmstrong> d1gital; hey it worked
[21:12] <pablo__> sera
[21:12] <sebsebseb> chaos2fu: happended to a few people, but not many
[21:12] <boritek> hello, i upgreded from ibex to jaunty and the new notification system doesnt work
[21:12] <redphp> my ubuntu can not connect to the internet :(
[21:12] <roysunshine92> d1gital any other idea?
[21:12] <PerryArmstrong> jdu, frostburn, d1gital; thanks or helping me
[21:13] <frostburn> redphp, what's the error that you're seeing when you try to connect using the icon in the top right?
[21:13] <sebsebseb> boritek: in some ways Intrepid is better really,   you mean  the black message for security updates and such?
[21:13] <boritek> i use MacOs theme, can it be a reason for this?
[21:13] <Ganymede> i'm trying to open this file in gedit but it says that it is invalid UTF-8, but i think it should be UTF8. does anyone know how i can track town where the invalid UTF8 is and try to fix it?
[21:13] <boritek> sebsebseb: yes
[21:13] <boritek> sebsebseb: and pidgin messages
[21:13] <frostburn> Ganymede, the file format may not be correct, i'd try opening it with vi.  do you know how this file was made?
[21:13] <boritek> and volume adjusting
[21:13] <sebsebseb> boritek:  they didn't  put in the new volume feature
[21:13] <unr3a1> looks like no one can help me.  I will just have to try and figure this out on my own.
[21:14] <boritek> whats in, then?
[21:14] <d1gital> PerryArmstrong:  i've never heard of that happening before.. personally, i'd try reconfiguring a bunch of things then purging and reinstalling a bunch of things and eventually reinstalling ubuntu. =/
[21:14] <sebsebseb> boritek: to be honest there isn't anything that differnet from 9.04 and 8.10
[21:14] <PerryArmstrong> d1gital; ha
[21:14] <pablo__> !addon
[21:15] <boritek> sebsebseb: i know, but this osd notifications is still one of them
[21:15] <boritek> and i would like to use it
[21:15] <sebsebseb> boritek: yes and it's not even a proper Gnome feature as far as I know
[21:15] <drone> could anyone possibly help me with ubuntu 9.04 sound issues? Tv as monitor using a Y adapter for sound and dvi to hdmi for video. In 9.04 I have no sound but in 8.10 and before I have sound. Whats different ?
[21:16] <guja> anyone familliar with this error? (i am running Ubuntu 9.04 32bit on VirtualBox)... No GLX FBConfig support on your display in GLXGLSupport::GLXGLSupport at OgreGLXGLSupport.cpp (line 783) ???
[21:16] <Samus_Aran> anyone here good with diagnosing mdadm errors when trying to start an array that was previously working?
[21:16] <rascal999> i have ubuntu on a cd, i'd like to make it an iso, how?
[21:16] <boritek> is there a cli program for using osd notifications?
[21:16] <togetic> in ubuntu, where is the PATH set typically?
[21:16] <sebsebseb> boritek: I have started to like it though, but  the  old   one for security updates and such, was fine
[21:17] <cristian_> ciao a tutti!
[21:17] <Slart> rascal999: you mean create an iso from an existing cd?
[21:17] <rascal999> yeha
[21:17] <boritek> sebsebseb: i didnt konw that the sec update also went to osd
[21:17] <Kage[Work]> I think you all will appreciate this... http://digg.com/odd_stuff/Ubuntu_calls_its_archive_users_a_jackass
[21:17] <Slart> rascal999: there are several tools.. brasero can do it.. probably k3b too
[21:17] <gabriel_> Use k3b to make the iso
[21:18] <sebsebseb> boritek: yeah and when it's playing my next song in Banshee starts playing, that's in the black message as well
[21:18] <papapep> togetic: you can set it in ~/.bashrc
[21:18] <togetic> i can't start kde or anything
[21:18] <boritek> its the pidgin messages that are especially good, coz u can read the messages directly
[21:18] <togetic> openbox, nada
[21:18] <wildc4rd> evening all
[21:18] <togetic> it just reboots into kdm
[21:18] <togetic> reboots/restarts
[21:18] <sebsebseb> boritek: that can be done on 8.10 even,  it's just a plugin for Pidgin
[21:18] <togetic> not the computer, just the login process never goes through
[21:18] <Barbz> #winehq
[21:19] <boritek> sebsebseb: which plugin?
[21:19] <Barbz> sup guys
[21:19] <boritek> but you dont need a pidgin plugin with osd notificaton, right?
[21:19] <edbian> Barbz: You didn't quite make it to winehq just so you know :)
[21:19] <sebsebseb> boritek: Libnotify popups or whatever I disabled, because it got annoying.
[21:19] <sebsebseb> boritek: nah it's in the default Pidgin install that comes with 9.04 and enabled by default
[21:20] <boritek> oh yeah i know
[21:20] <boritek> but thats not too nice
[21:20] <sebsebseb> boritek: and in some older Ubuntu version I had used a message pop up plugin in Pidgin
[21:20] <Reeska> list
[21:20] <edbian> boritek: I didn't mean it that way! lol
[21:20] <boritek> i use still another alternatives for that, which is nice, but i would like to taste the jaunty osd thing
[21:20] <Reeska> Hi :)
[21:20] <CyberGabber> rascal999: Insert CD. CD Shows up op desktop. Rightclick on that CD, choose 'copy disc', choose Copy Disk to : 'image'....
[21:21] <boritek> edbian: sorry?
[21:21] <sebsebseb> boritek: 8.10 is the better release really it seems,  PM me for more details if your interested
[21:22] <edbian> boritek: "but that's not to nice" referring to my "you didn't quite make it to winehq" comment (because I saw your "#winehq" .
[21:22] <tunnlrat> How do you change a HDD owner from Root so that everyone else can use it
[21:22] <edbian> boritek: You know what, nevermind.
[21:22] <boritek> sebsebseb: i dont have any problem with jaunty except this missing feature
[21:22] <edbian> tunnlrat: Is the harddrive mounted right now??
[21:23] <spiff74> Hi! Im trying to install CalendarServer ( https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CalendarServer ), but Im stuck. I have to edit my /etc/fstab file.. Im a complete linux n00b, so I dont have any clue how to do this
[21:23] <tunnlrat> yes right now its mounted and formated for ext3
[21:23] <ricardol> hello everyone, can someone tell me from which repository i can find zlib1 package? i am using ubuntu 8.10
[21:23] <edbian> tunnlrat: Go to the folder it is mounted in (probably /media or /mnt)
[21:23] <sebsebseb> boritek: well it's  not an amazing feature
[21:23] <edbian> tunnlrat: Go there in a terminal
[21:24] <tunnlrat> alright i believe its mounted in /media
[21:24] <edbian> tunnlrat: How familiar are you with the terminal?
[21:25] <tunnlrat> not very, i come from a windows background only been using linux a month or so, it took me a day just to figure out how to format the drive from ntfs to ext3 lol
[21:25] <edbian> tunnlrat: Also please begin your posts with my name (like I'm doing to you).  My irc client will highlight it and I will read it easier.
[21:25] <sebsebseb> tunnlrat: type the first few letters of someones name and hit tab to do that
[21:26] <tunnlrat> edbian: i believe is currently mounted as /media/disk
[21:26] <Slart> !info zlib1g
[21:26] <sheep76475> i'm trying to install xampp but terminal is saying opt doesn't exist. i'm pretty sure i got the path right (/opt). not sure what to do
[21:26] <Slart> ricardol: it's not installed by default?
[21:26] <ricardol> nope
[21:26]  * bc can't believe pcalc isn't in ubuntu repos
[21:26] <togetic> even my ctl-alt-backspace buttons didn't restart the X server, what's the problem?
[21:27] <ricardol> slart: it looks like not
[21:27] <lstarnes> !dontzap | togetic
[21:27] <edbian> tunnlrat: That's ok!  Linux is more fun.  It probably would have take you even longer to do it in windows.  I am going to walk you through the command I will give you 1 piece at a time.  The first piece is "sudo" this give you root power.  The second is "chown" which stands for change owner.  Every file in the linux filesystem has an owner.  Then "your username" you put your username here.  When the command is done you will be the new owner.  Then lastly
[21:27] <edbian> the file /disk.  You can use a relative name since you are already in that folder.
[21:27] <edbian> tunnlrat: The whole thing put together is: sudo chown tunnlrat /disk
[21:27] <edbian> tunnlrat: Alternatively sudo chown tunnlrat /media/disk (both work the same)
[21:28] <Slart> ricardol: I haven't got an 8.10 system here.. what do you get if you run "apt-cache search zlib1" ?
[21:28] <sebsebseb> edbian: yeah that was a nice way to do it :)   by explaining to them what the command means
[21:28] <edbian> sebsebseb: Thanks :)
[21:28] <sebsebseb> edbian: instead of just giving the command
[21:28] <togetic> so why am i not able to login?
[21:28] <tunnlrat> edbian: should the drive me mounted or unmounted when i do that?
[21:28] <togetic> thanks lstarnes, but still wondering why i can't login
[21:29] <Slart> bc: there seems to be several pcalc apps.. which one are you talking about?
[21:29] <edbian> tunnlrat: mounted.
[21:29] <edbian> tunnlrat: BTW are there already files in there?
[21:29] <ricardol> slart: zlib1g - compression library - runtime
[21:29] <ricardol> zlib1g-dbg - compression library - development
[21:29] <ricardol> zlib1g-dev - compression library - development
[21:29] <ricardol> libcoin40c2 - high-level 3D graphics kit with Open Inventor and VRML97 support - runtime
[21:29] <Like> hmhm
[21:29] <FloodBot1> ricardol: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:29] <ricardol> sorry
[21:30] <Slart> ricardol: and if you run "sudo apt-get install zlib1g" what does it say? don't paste it here though
[21:30] <tunnlrat> edbian: the only thing showing on the drive is a folder called lost+found i wanted to wipe it clean and start from scratch when i used gparted to format it
[21:30] <bc> Slart: programmer's calculator. didn't show up in apt-cache search
[21:30] <togetic> when i go into a tty screen, it can't find irssi or vim
[21:30] <togetic> or 'ls'
[21:30] <togetic> just common methods for using the cli
[21:30] <bc> Slart: where you using apt-cache or a web interface somewhere? (if so, where? :))
[21:30] <edbian> tunnlrat: That lost + found folder is part of the ext3 filesystem.  It must be there.  It is used when the system crashes.  It places the running data in there to recover from.
[21:31] <ricardol> slart: it is installed
[21:31] <togetic> so i'm guessing my PATH is wrong
[21:31] <edbian> tunnlrat: I was going to tell you to add the -R flag which stands for recursive and would have changed the owner of /media/disk and all of the files inside /media/disk.  But there are no files in there so the point is moot.
[21:31] <Slart> bc: I used this new website.. hang on.. let me check the url.. oh.. it's www.google.com ;)
[21:31] <bc> Slart: lol!
[21:31] <uuv> I'm trying to enable my graphics card driver, but when I install it from hardware drivers and use sudo nvidia-settings, it says that i have to use "sudo nvidia-xconfig", but when i do that and try the nvidia-settings again, I always get the same error. I tried booting the x too, using command sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart. I'm using 9.04 and my graphics card is NVIDIA GeForce 9300M GS.
[21:31] <Slart> ricardol: well..I guess your problem is solved then.. or?
[21:31] <togetic> !PATH
[21:32] <togetic> hmm
[21:32] <togetic> bbl
[21:32] <Slart> bc: is this the one http://sourceforge.net/projects/pcalc/ ?
[21:32] <ricardol> actually it is not
[21:32] <ricardol> slart:actually it is not
[21:32] <snowrichard> ToGetic echo $PATH will show it to you
[21:32] <``y7> jdu, how do you restart networking and i'll test it?
[21:32] <tunnlrat> edbian: awesome it finally worked!!!!
[21:32] <edbian> tunnlrat: of course it did :)
[21:33] <bc> Slart: that's the one. just 'googled' it ;) and I can't find any relation to any ubuntu package
[21:33] <meinertz> edbian, it looks like i joined the channel at the right time, i was looking for exactly what you just helped tunnlrat to do. Thank you! :D
[21:33] <tunnlrat> edbian: does it matter if i change the group, its listed as being part of the root group should i change that to tunnlrat as well??
[21:33] <Slart> bc: nope.. I didn't find anything either.. there's apcalc.. I have no idea if those are in any way compatible though
[21:33] <guja> kann jemand mich mit das helfen: No GLX FBConfig support on your display in GLXGLSupport::GLXGLSupport at OgreGLXGLSupport.cpp (line 783)??? benutze Ubuntu 9.04 bei VirtualBox. 32bit
[21:34] <edbian> meinertz: NP two birds with one stone.
[21:34] <Eroick> Alright, I need a laptop. I'd love for it to run Ubuntu, but in order to justify buying a PC, I'm going to need very good compatibility, otherwise a Mac with OS X seems like a good choice... I'm in Canada, so system76 is out of the question as the duty fees are huge. Dell Canada no longer has ubuntu laptops... Searching around shows mixed results. According to thinkwiki, the T400 works almost flawlessly with 9.04, but the ubuntuforums b
[21:34] <guja> anyone familliar with this error? (i am running Ubuntu 9.04 32bit on VirtualBox)... No GLX FBConfig support on your display in GLXGLSupport::GLXGLSupport at OgreGLXGLSupport.cpp (line 783) ??? (sry on german)
[21:34] <ricardol> slart:actually it is not... i am trying to use a package that uses zlib and i get the error: error: zlib.h: No such file or directory
[21:34] <bc> Slart: right, I use apcalc (calc), similar but different
[21:34] <ricardol> so i cant figure out why
[21:34] <Slart> ricardol: oh.. now why didn't you say so.. you need the dev-package then
[21:34] <edbian> tunnlrat: if you use nautilus and right click on the file and hit properties you can look at the permissions under the permissions tab.  This gives a little clearer idea of the permissions policy.
[21:35] <ricardol> yes, i just saw that, i am downlading it now
[21:35] <Slart> ricardol: the dev package contains headers and so on.. the normal package is just the binaries.. usually when you compile something and it complains about something you need the -dev package
[21:35] <tunnlrat> edbian: yes thats how i figured out it was owned by root in the first place lol i just couldn't figure out how to change that, now for question number two.  How do i setup the computer to auto mount that drive when i start it up
[21:35] <nellmathew> hey anyone here use banshee? and know how to add .git plugins to it? (trying to add shoutcast plugin)
[21:35] <edbian> tunnlrat: The group is given permissions too (either access, or read, or read / write) and then anyone who is a member of that group has those permissions on that file.
[21:35] <Slart> bc: I'm checking the source download from sourceforge now.. will let you know if it compiles without problems
[21:35] <ricardol> slart: ok, txs it looks like it works now!
[21:36] <edbian> tunnlrat: There is a tunnlrat user and there is a tunnlrat group (so don't get confused if you start changing around group permissions).
[21:36] <edbian> tunnlrat: Do you know what /etc/fstab is
[21:36] <edbian> ??
[21:36] <bc> Slart: compiled it, looks good to me.
[21:37] <Slart> bc: it was very simple.. no problems at all
[21:37] <``y7> how do i restart my networking?
[21:37] <Eroick> so nobody can recommend a ubuntu laptop?
[21:37] <bc> Slart: no configure, and wants to install into /usr/bin, but other than that...
[21:37] <tunnlrat> edbian: i have heard of the /etc/fstab before but never touched it as i didn't think that was a good idea without directions from some that knows what they are doing
[21:37] <cabrey> ``y7, sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[21:37] <``y7> ty
[21:37] <Slart> Eroick: find a laptop you like.. go to a store where they physically have the laptop on display.. ask if you can test an ubuntu live cd on it..
[21:37] <Slart> Eroick: it's the easiest way that I know ow
[21:37] <Maximo> Dell Inspiron 15n    <----ubuntu pc just came out
[21:38] <Eroick> Slart: true, but I can't find thinkpads on display around here... I guess I could try some other models.
[21:38] <edbian> tunnlrat: ok.  /etc/fstab is used to tell the file-system how to handle the various 2ndary memory devices it finds.  (HDD's cdrom's network filesystem etc etc).
[21:38] <Eroick> Maximo: unfortunately not available in Canada.
[21:38] <edbian> tunnlrat: When you edit it you need root power again.  so sudo gedit /etc/fstab  (gedit is a text editor)
[21:38] <Maximo> Eroick: order it fast enough
[21:39] <Slart> Eroick: you can also search for the model name in the forums.. see if there are any posts about.. there might even be a laptop compatibility list somewhere out there but it's more than I know
[21:39] <Slart> !gksudo | edbian, tunnlrat
[21:39] <edbian> tunnlrat: Here is an excellent guide on editing fstab: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab
[21:39] <edbian> Ahh!!1 yes he's right
[21:39] <sebsebseb> Maximo: no I belive that's the one that has been out for quite a while now, and the one that is on offer, without going on a website to check
[21:39] <Z3ro3X> I installed kismet on Ubuntu 9.04 64bit and I'm not getting any sound from kismet.  When I tested it on OpenSUSE I had sound.  Any idea what could be wrong?
[21:39] <edbian> tunnlrat: gksu is used to run graphical programs as root so: gksu gedit /etc/fstab
[21:39] <togetic> alright, someone?
[21:39] <Slart> !laptop
[21:39] <Maximo> !hello \ sebsebseb
[21:40] <Slart> Eroick: check the link ubuntu wrote above.. see if it's up to date
[21:40] <Maximo> hello sebsebseb
[21:40] <sebsebseb> Maximo: yep hi
[21:40] <oldskooo> okay, i have what seems like a newb question
[21:40] <tunnlrat> edbian: alright i've seen this file before lol but i don't really know what half of it means
[21:41] <cabrey> oldskooo, ask away
[21:41] <Eroick> Slart: i've checked most of those... but then in checking the forums I find issues... they say the T400 works, but people on the forums have issues.
[21:41] <spiff74> Hi guys! I really need some help with installing CalendarServer. Im following the documentation on the wiki, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CalendarServer , but Im stuck. Im supposed to do this: "We now need to edit our /etc/fstab file and add  user_xattr  to the options for the partition containing the CalDAV server, / in this case:  vim /etc/fstab "   but how do I do it?
[21:41] <edbian> tunnlrat: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab
[21:41] <togetic> is it my PATH?
[21:41] <togetic> because tty screens can't use sudo
[21:41] <oldskooo> okay, it my system seems to be auto-writing certain files (of a particular size) into "zipped" folders
[21:41] <edbian> tunnlrat: I will look at mine and walk you through it hang on one sec
[21:41] <togetic> or ls
[21:41] <Slart> Eroick: hmm.. well.. trust the forums then.. unless the posts are about older versions of ubuntu
[21:42] <oldskooo> .gz to be exact
[21:42] <``y7> is there somebody on here that is a pro with networking that i can pay via paypal to help me get my system working?
[21:42] <oldskooo> i don't want that to be the case
[21:42] <cabrey> oldskooo, that is an archiving format
[21:42] <Eroick> Slart: they're about 9.04, but its all over the place. some say it works, others say it doesn't.
[21:42] <cabrey> oldskooo, how are you archiving files/folders?
[21:42] <edbian> tunnlrat: Uhh... I can't because I'm running a liveCD so my fstab is a joke compared to yours.  Anyway be specific and ask questions.  I have edited /etc/fstab many times before.
[21:43] <Slart> Eroick: hmm.. well.. I'm sorry I can't be more helpful with this..
[21:43] <oldskooo> i have a program that just auto creates files, on my other linux systems in the past it didn't archive them
[21:43] <oldskooo> is there a setting somewhere that I can turn this auto feature off
[21:43] <Eroick> Slart: that's alright, it seems sort of helpless... :(. maybe I'll end up going mac.
[21:43] <cabrey> oldskooo, what program?
[21:43] <oldskooo> AFNI
[21:43] <Slart> ``y7: I'm pretty sure canonical has paid support options on the ubuntu site somewhere
[21:43] <oldskooo> and FSL
[21:43] <oldskooo> it just seems to be happing everywhere
[21:44] <tunnlrat> edbian: alright i think i should be okay the drive just doesn't auto mount and show up on the desktop but i can live with that it shows up when i go down to places and that brings it up onto the desktop for access
[21:44] <cabrey> oldskooo, what is the full file extension of the final archive?
[21:44] <edbian> tunnlrat: Are you sure you want to give up?  I am very confident that we can get it to auto-mount for you.
[21:45] <cabrey> tunnlrat, you want it to automount in nautilus?
[21:45] <cabrey> tunnlrat, i think there is a setting for that
[21:45] <oldskooo> well AFNI makes .BRIK normally (my files are like 50mb) and it is archiving this into .BRIK.gz
[21:45] <tunnlrat> cabrey: yeah that is where i would be looking to have it auto mount, though at this point in time unlike windows i only reset the computer maybe once a month
[21:45] <computa_mike> Hi peeps - anyone know how to install Skype on ubuntu ?
[21:46] <edbian> tunnlrat: Yeah you need to restart much less with ubuntu :)
[21:46] <cabrey> tunnlrat, when you insert a cd/dvd it only shows up in places? but you want it to automount and show up on the desktop?
[21:46] <regeya> !skype
[21:46] <sebsebseb> computa_mike: get the Ubuntu DEB from them, and install, then you might have to configure sound to work on Skype in it's settings
[21:46] <computa_mike> thanks gents -
[21:46] <oldskooo> wait, i think I found it, in my AFNI settings
[21:47] <cabrey> oldskooo, yea i was gonna say, that sounds like a program specific setting
[21:47] <arnold_> hola
[21:47] <edbian> What is Martinp23 talking about?  How do you identify to the NickServ?
[21:47] <sebsebseb> !es | arnold_
[21:47] <cabrey> edbian, that is a freenode message
[21:47] <arnold_> hello
[21:47] <oldskooo> yeah, it was, thanks for leading me down the path though
[21:47] <lstarnes> edbian: if your nick is not registered with nickserv, ignore that
[21:47] <magyar_> hi, how do i change default locale in ubuntu?
[21:47] <sebsebseb> edbian: fnd out in #freenode how you identify your nick and register it
[21:48] <oldskooo> :-D
[21:48] <edbian> sebsebseb: Thanks!
[21:48] <tunnlrat> cabrey: yeah when i put in a cd it auto mounts in guess you could say on the desktop, its this second HD that doesn't do that, and i am going to be storing all my family pics and music etc on it for my wife
[21:48] <sebsebseb> edbian: np
[21:48] <cabrey> magyar_, System > Administration > Language Support
[21:49] <sebsebseb> edbian: register then identify even :D
[21:49] <edbian> what?
[21:49] <magyar_> cabrey, from console?  on debian  >>> dpkg-reconfigure locales
[21:49] <cabrey> edbian, you can register your nickname with freenode
[21:50] <sebsebseb> edbian: nevermind
[21:50] <cabrey> magyar_, your on debian?
[21:50] <spiff74> hmm, thanks for nothing guys..
[21:50] <magyar_> cabrey, ubuntu
[21:50] <sebsebseb> edbian: I was just trying to pout out that I had said it the other way round wrongly.  ,because you have to register it first before you can identify it
[21:50] <leagris> How can I get the coretemp module loaded at boot and is it a bug if it is not by default?
[21:50] <U-b-u-n-t-u> if there a text to speech app for ubuntu that has a decent voice engine?
[21:50] <U-b-u-n-t-u> is* there a text to speech app for ubuntu that has a decent voice engine?
[21:50] <sebsebseb> edbian: point out above
[21:50] <edbian> sebsebseb: o ok
[21:50] <[nrx]> anyone aware of issues with compiz once upgraded to Jaunty? :(
[21:50] <boritek> magyar_: szia ;-)
[21:50] <cabrey> magyar_, can't you just use the gui? i'm not sure what the console equivalent is
[21:50] <magyar_> cabrey, but I do work with debian
[21:50] <magyar_> boritek, ahoy
[21:51] <tunnlrat> edbian: thank you for the help, the more i run ubuntu the more i like it
[21:51] <edbian> tunnlrat: It is addictive :)
[21:51] <[nrx]> 3
[21:51] <boritek> magyar_: honnét vagy?
[21:51] <cabrey> tunnlrat, if you go into Configuration Editor
[21:51] <edbian> tunnlrat: Come back anytime I'd love to help
[21:51] <magyar_> cabrey, don't have a gui, I am remote to the machine (ssh)
[21:51] <magyar_> boritek, Kanada
[21:51] <Slart> U-b-u-n-t-u: no text-to-speech engine will make your nick sound easier to type than it is.. try espeak or festival.. I think it's called festival at least
[21:51] <[nrx]> £3\';,.][p4
[21:51] <[nrx]> 442
[21:51] <cabrey> tunnlrat, we can see if the settings can be adjusted
[21:51] <[nrx]> oops, sorry
[21:52] <tunnlrat> cabrey: i'll have to come back and bug you about it later lol i just realised the time and i have to go to work lol
[21:52] <cabrey> tunnlrat, ok :)
[21:52] <edbian> tunnlrat: See you!
[21:52] <boritek> magyar_: ott is születtél?
[21:52] <boritek> milyen idő van most ott?
[21:52] <``y7> when i do "ps aux | grep firestarter" it comes up with "10199 0.0 0.0 7452 888 pts/4 S+ 16:51 0.00 grep firestarter" i then tried "sudo kill 10199" and it tells me "kill: no such process" any ideas what i'm doing wrong?
[21:52] <Slart> !english | boritek
[21:52] <[nrx]> 4£$$£%$£@£$%$£@@@@@@^*&^%$£@!`
[21:53] <U-b-u-n-t-u> Slart, my nick sound easier to type?
[21:53] <[nrx]> how the hell do I get the hash sign on a mac keyboard?!
[21:53] <Myrtti> !hu | boritek
[21:53] <sebsebseb> boritek: you were talking English here, not that long ago :d
[21:53] <cabrey> [nrx], what?
[21:53] <Slart> U-b-u-n-t-u: nevermind that.. try espeak or festival
[21:53] <Azharn> I'm having a problem installing libmysqltcl3.05. I keep getting an error about mysql (server 5.0 IS installed) and I can't figure out why. Can someone help? Here's what I see when I do ./configure http://paste.ubuntu.com/191912/
[21:53] <[nrx]> the hash sign, pound sign, if you will
[21:53] <U-b-u-n-t-u> Slart,  ok
[21:54] <magyar_> boritek, yeap, napos ido :)
[21:54] <velcroshooz> [nrx]: shift 3
[21:54] <[nrx]> no
[21:54] <boritek> magyar_: :D:D
[21:54] <[nrx]> The symbol that's before a channel name in IRC
[21:54] <[nrx]> ;)
[21:54] <velcroshooz> shift 3
[21:54] <cabrey> [nrx], i have a mac keyboard in front of me
[21:54] <cporter> Any THunderbird-Lightning users here?
[21:54] <[nrx]> so do I and it aint working
[21:54] <Slart> cporter: yes
[21:54] <[nrx]> £££££
[21:54] <[nrx]> see
[21:55] <cporter> I'm trying to figure out where Lightning stores calendar configs
[21:55] <cabrey> [nrx], you must have a european keyboard layout selected
[21:55] <togetic> seriously, someone please?
[21:55] <Guest82026> how do I configure Konsole in kde?  I go to settings->configure Konsole and change the style, then click apply, then ok
[21:55] <Nunnally> hi
[21:55] <civixier> Hi! When I right click the Workspace area and chooses preferences and add more workspaces they wont show up. Am I missing something?
[21:55] <[nrx]> That's because I'm a) in europe, b) have a british keyboard
[21:55] <Guest82026> but then when I create a new window it is the same old style
[21:55] <cabrey> [nrx], System > Preferences > Keyboard > Layout
[21:55] <Nunnally> i deleted the main panel (the upstire one) by wrong
[21:55] <``y7> when i do "ps aux | grep firestarter" it comes up with "10199 0.0 0.0 7452 888 pts/4 S+ 16:51 0.00 grep firestarter" i then tried "sudo kill 10199" and it tells me "kill: no such process" any ideas what i'm doing wrong?
[21:55] <Slart> togetic: seriously.. just repeat your question.. we don't want to scroll up to search for it
[21:55] <Nunnally> how can I get it back?  lol
[21:55] <Nunnally> thanks D:!
[21:56] <[nrx]> cabrey, I don' want to change my layout, I just want to be able to produce that symbol
[21:56] <Myrtti> ``y7: you don't have firestarter running
[21:56] <``y7> Myrtti, how can you tell?
[21:56] <Myrtti> ``y7: the result you're getting is the grep firestarter
[21:56] <cabrey> [nrx], you have to change the layout to the mac keyboard. there might be a mac uk layout
[21:56] <Mike_lifeguard> Is there a way to trigger the system bell from a terminal?
[21:56] <cabrey> Nunnally, you have the bottom panel?
[21:56] <[nrx]> I've got it on the UK Mac layout
[21:56] <togetic> Slart: i can't login, after typing my name, kdm just goes back to the login screen again. and when i'm in a tty screen i can't use any commands, none work, ls, cd, apt-get, etc. i think something is wrong with my PATH, help please?
[21:56] <[nrx]> 3
[21:56] <Myrtti> ``y7: the pipe sign | separates two commands
[21:57] <Nunnally> yeah..
[21:57] <``y7> Myrtti, doesn't ps aux show all running processes? and then grep is just used to search through them?
[21:57] <[nrx]> 3
[21:57] <Slart> ``y7: ps aux returns all processes that matches "firestarter".. including the process that is doing the searching..
[21:57] <Nunnally> but i lost the "application" and others
[21:57] <cabrey> Nunnally, right click on it > New Panel
[21:57] <Nunnally> i know how to do that
[21:57] <neXyon> I've set up a home server to have all my mails from different accounts fetched, so that I have them in one centralized IMAP account, and I don't get the mails on every client I use (especially those mail accounts that only support POP), now I'd like to have something similar for newsgroups and RSS, does someone know how I could do that?
[21:57] <Myrtti> ``y7: but grep is returned as well, because it's a process of it's own
[21:57] <cabrey> Nunnally, on the new panel > add to panel...
[21:57] <``y7> oh, roger that, thx for the help
[21:57] <Nunnally> i just want to know what I need to add form "add to panel" as the default
[21:58] <Azharn> I'm having a problem installing libmysqltcl3.05. I keep getting an error about mysql (server 5.0 IS installed) and I can't figure out why. Can someone help? Here's what I see when I do ./configure http://paste.ubuntu.com/191912/
[21:58] <Myrtti> ``y7: if you're trying to get rid of the firewall rules you've set up with firestarter, you need to keep in mind that firestarter is only a frontend to iptables
[21:58] <cabrey> Nunnally, look for Main Bar
[21:58] <ha1331_> I jsut bought 2x 9600GT cards. when I insert them both on my system, the other card wont even start the fan. Do I need the connector between the cards if dont plan to use them in sli?
[21:58] <Slart> togetic: well.. if you can't run any commands you need to fix it by using a live cd.. not really sure how to do that.. sorry
[21:58] <cabrey> Nunnally, also Notification Area
[21:58] <Myrtti> ``y7: and you can't turn iptables off - if you want to get rid of the rules you need to do it either with iptables itself or firestarter
[21:58] <cabrey> Nunnally, Clock is another one
[21:58] <ha1331_> when inserted, system will boot, but goes to shell
[21:59] <DasEi> ha1331_:I never tried sli, ask in #hardware
[21:59] <Nunnally> k.. thanks cabrey :D
[21:59] <cabrey> Nunnally, there is another one
[21:59] <[nrx]> I'm guessing no-one knows
[21:59] <Nunnally> the Notification Area is what I wanted the most ^_^
[21:59]  * [nrx] sighs
[21:59] <``y7> Myrtti: i can connect to my ubuntu machine via ssh from another computer behind my lan but my ubuntu machine cannot get on the internet... any ideas? (my router is allowing the internal ip that i have assigned to eth1 to connect to the net)
[22:00] <cabrey> Nunnally, there is also the Log Out... one
[22:00] <Nunnally> cabrey: what eles ? :D
[22:00] <Nunnally> ah.. right
[22:00] <Myrtti> ``y7: does that other computer have ssh server installed then?
[22:00] <[nrx]> !compiz
[22:00] <Artarian> Hello guys can somebody help me? i have Ubuntu 4.3.3-5 ubuntu4 when i do the ./configure --enable-server --enable-agent --with-mysql --with-net-snmp it says mysql_config ... no, no answers in google could help me out
[22:00] <cabrey> Nunnally, actually the "User Switcher" one is better than Log Out...
[22:00] <``y7> Myrtti, i'm using putty to connect to the ubuntu machine. but ubuntu can't get on google.com or ping yahoo.com, etc.....
[22:01] <Nunnally> pretty :D
[22:01] <cabrey> [nrx], I don't know what to tell you, I have a US keyboard layout...
[22:01] <Slart> Artarian: what is ubuntu 4.3.3-5 ?? try "lsb_release -a" to see the version
[22:01] <Artarian> Hello guys can somebody help me? i have Ubuntu 4.3.3-5 ubuntu4 when i do the ./configure --enable-server --enable-agent --with-mysql --with-net-snmp it says mysql_config ... no, no answers in google could help me out (THIS IS ABOUT ZABBIX)
[22:01] <cabrey> !repeat | Artarian
[22:01] <Nunnally> thank you very very much. cabrey ^_^
[22:01] <Myrtti> ``y7: can you use telnet to check if it's the browser doing that? "telnet google.com 80"
[22:02] <cabrey> Nunnally, np
[22:02] <``y7> Myrtti: telnet: could not resolve google.com/80: Name or service not known
[22:02] <Nunnally> btw, tor is not working :P
[22:02] <lstarnes> ``y7: telnet google.com 80
[22:02] <``y7> lstarnes, that's what i just did
[22:02] <jcp> I recently installed ubuntu using wubi. My main operating system (the one that I installed under) is Windows Vista. Is it possible to run that exact Vista instance from ubuntu using Virtual Box? I've done some google searches but everything is either irrelevant to my question or inconclusive.
[22:02] <Myrtti> ``y7: no, it isn't
[22:02] <sebsebseb> jcp: probably not
[22:02] <``y7> y7deluxe@ubuntu:~$ telnet google.com 80
[22:02] <``y7> telnet: could not resolve google.com/80: Name or service not known
[22:03] <sebsebseb> jcp: also it's best not to use Wubi
[22:03] <leagris> What is the correct way of autoloading a kernel module at boot ?
[22:03] <sebsebseb> jcp: dualbooting  Windows and another OS is pretty easy
[22:03] <``y7> Myrtti, what'd i do wrong then?
[22:03] <jcp> I know. I installed using wubi because I just wanted to see how it works, and I've become hooked on it now
[22:03] <Myrtti> ``y7: ok, so you indeed have problem with your ubuntu, not just the browser
[22:03] <cabrey> jcp, no that would be quite a convulted setup. wubi uses the windows file system that you would want to use in virtualbox
[22:03] <``y7> Myrtti: i know :)
[22:03] <jcp> cabrey: ok
[22:03] <``y7> Myrtti: how do i go about fixing it?
[22:03] <cabrey> jcp, it would be a never ending paradox O_o
[22:03] <sebsebseb> jcp: ok that's good, by the way Linux isn't only Ubuntu
[22:04] <Myrtti> ``y7: tbh, I personally don't have faintest idea
[22:04] <jcp> sebsebseb, cabrey: if I used lvpm to promote my install to its own partition (which I've been wanting to do for some time now), would I be able to do it then?
[22:04] <sheep76475> which dir should i be installing programs to?
[22:04] <jcp> sebsebseb: I know, I use Fedora on my server
[22:04] <sebsebseb> jcp: it's not worth even trying to  make a Wubi install into a real partition
[22:04] <jcp> why?
[22:04] <togetic> argh
[22:04] <togetic> i am in a live cd
[22:04] <dadrock> I am not able to access my internet in Ubuntu but i can access it in windows . I get connected in ubuntu but Internet is not accessible . what to do ?
[22:04] <togetic> i know i need to fix it
[22:04] <togetic> argh
[22:04] <cabrey> jcp, to be honest I would start over from scratch, because now you know how everything is setup etc and will give you a fresh start
[22:04] <FloodBot1> togetic: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:04] <sebsebseb> jcp: ,because it would be complacted and weird,  you probably woudn't even up with a proper install in the end
[22:05] <sachael> does anyone know a frame-by-frame animation software for linux? I found 2, but they are vector based.
[22:05] <sam555> how much hdd space should /root go to for 9.04?
[22:05] <sebsebseb> jcp: end up with above
[22:05] <``y7> anybody here any good with networking that could help me connet to the iternet from my ubuntu machine? (ubuntu can connect to other machines on my lan, just not the net)
[22:05] <sam555> someone said 8 to 12 gb, but I lost the paper that had the info :(
[22:05] <jcp> sebsebseb: ok. Is it possible to copy over all of my programs that are currently installed to the new one without having to reinstall them?
[22:05] <cabrey> sachael, cinepaint i think it is called
[22:05] <Dr_Willis> sam555:  /root is not the same as / (also called the root of the filesystem) :)
[22:05] <sebsebseb> jcp: not exactly
[22:05] <sebsebseb> jcp: and it's easy to download stuff agian
[22:05] <sam555> Dr_Willis: ok
[22:05] <Dr_Willis> !clone | jcp
[22:06] <cabrey> jcp, just backup your home folder and you'll be good
[22:06] <neXyon> I've set up a home server to have all my mails from different accounts fetched, so that I have them in one centralized IMAP account, and I don't get the mails on every client I use (especially those mail accounts that only support POP), now I'd like to have something similar for newsgroups and RSS, does someone know how I could do that?
[22:06] <Myrtti> neXyon: google reader :-/
[22:06] <``y7> anybody here any good with networking that could help me connet to the iternet from my ubuntu machine? (ubuntu can connect to other machines on my lan, just not the net)
[22:06] <jcp> Dr_Willis: ok, that would work
[22:07] <Guest82026> somehow I borked up my konsole settings--so that the "paper, light" style no longer works
[22:07] <Guest82026> how can I get it back?
[22:07] <cabrey> Guest82026, /join #kubuntu
[22:07] <nellmathew> is there a way to automatically add all of shoutcasts radio stations to banshee?
[22:08] <sam555> anybody know how much space is needed for ubuntu 9.04?
[22:08] <cabrey> nellmathew, is it rss?
[22:08] <cabrey> sam555, ~5gb minimum
[22:08] <crisb2010> hi there
[22:08] <cabrey> sam555, you can go lower, but 5gb is a good comfort level
[22:08] <sam555> cabrey is 20gb too much?
[22:09] <sam555> i have 125 gb of room
[22:09] <cabrey> sam555, not at all, it will give you plenty of room to expand
[22:09] <sam555> cabrey: and that was my concern
[22:09] <sam555> cabrey: thanks!
[22:09] <crisb2010> is it possible to shut down the server version of ubuntu when it is inactive? i know that the desktop version does it
[22:09] <nellmathew> cabrey, i don't think so - i want to make banshee like songbird w/ the shoutcast section (it automatically lists all of shoutcasts stations).. from what i understand they don't have a rss feed though
[22:10] <cabrey> nellmathew, hmm i use banshee but i havent heard of shoutcast. maybe someone wrote a plugin?
[22:10] <snowrichard> shoutcast.com
[22:10] <snowrichard> has the yellow pages
[22:11] <Myrtti> nellmathew: http://aksussummerofcode.blogspot.com/2009/05/hello-world.html
[22:11] <JackB21> Hi
[22:11] <seba_> hola
[22:11] <seba_> alguien que hable españok?
[22:11] <nellmathew> myrtti: thanks! that's useful enough
[22:11] <seba_> necesito ayuda en xubuntu
[22:12] <cabrey> !es
[22:12] <Myrtti> nellmathew: so the reply for your question is "it's being worked on"
[22:12] <JackB21> ¿How to backup partition on external hard drive?
[22:12] <JackB21> using dd
[22:13] <JackB21> seba_ entra a ubuntu-es
[22:13] <cabrey> Myrtti, i've seen more than one site working on an implementation
[22:13] <ltcabral> would anyone tell me what the variable $(MAKEFILE_LIST) holds?
[22:13] <JackB21> seba_ #ubuntu-es
[22:13] <dadrock> I am not able to access my internet in Ubuntu . I get connected but Internet is not accessible . what to do ?
[22:14] <nubuntu> i have windows problems
[22:14] <Slart> ltcabral: please tell me you've at least tried google...
[22:14] <cabrey> nubuntu, this is ubuntu support
[22:14] <ltcabral> Slart: i did... but i read only first page :P
[22:15] <Myrtti> cabrey: good for you
[22:15] <Slart> ltcabral: ok.. fair enough.. here's a link.. http://www.delorie.com/gnu/docs/make/make_17.html
[22:15] <ltcabral> Slart: thanks :)
[22:16] <tavi> hy
[22:16] <nellmathew> anyone know how to handle git:// urls in firefox? or .git files in general?
[22:16] <tavi> i do not udnerstand how the ping command works
[22:16] <tavi> i tried sudo ping -is 0,5 100 adress but say bad timing interval
[22:16] <cabrey> nellmathew, install git-core & use the terminal
[22:16] <tavi> what's wrong?
[22:16] <Myrtti> nellmathew: the link I gave you is about a part of the software that's not functional yet, being developed, not ready for end users
[22:17] <Rodolfo> hello
[22:17] <Rodolfo> have someone here?
[22:17] <leagris> I need to have the coretemp kernel module loaded at boot to monitor the CPU temperature. It is not by default. What is the correct file and method of fixing this?
[22:17] <tavi> i tried sudo ping -is 0,5 100 adress but say bad timing interval
[22:17] <cabrey> !br | Rodolfo
[22:17] <Rodolfo> auhhuahuauh UBUNTU is FOR GAYYYYYY
[22:17] <Rodolfo> UBUNTU is losers
[22:17] <Ampelbein> !ops | Rodolfo
[22:18] <Rodolfo> WINDOWS IS THE BEST
[22:18] <lstarnes> Rodolfo: stop that.  This is a support channel
[22:18] <tavi> i tried sudo ping -is 0,5 100 adress but say bad timing interval
[22:18] <danirie> I LOVE UBUNTU
[22:18] <nellmathew> thanks cabrey, yeah myrtti, i checked around the the link and found : http://aksussummerofcode.blogspot.com/ - released today.. he has it running and i'm willing to experiment a bit (considering all it does is retrieve urls and is a plugin - how much could it hurt..)
[22:18] <tom-ubuntu-sound> Hey, as of yesterday my sound stopped working, anyone able to help?
[22:18] <nellmathew> myrtti, but it's .git repo so i'm figuring out that first
[22:19] <tavi> i tried sudo ping -is 0,5 100 adress but say bad timing interval
[22:20] <xnox> my memory is at 37% right now but my swap is at 97% (1.4 GB) is there anyway to "clear" swap
[22:20] <Pricey> xnox: It will be released  its not needed.
[22:20] <tavi> i tried sudo ping -is 0,5 100 adress but say bad timing interval
[22:20] <tavi> some help?
[22:20] <Artarian> Hello guys can somebody help me? i have Ubuntu 4.3.3-5 ubuntu4 when i do the ./configure --enable-server --enable-agent --with-mysql --with-net-snmp it says mysql_config ... no, no answers in google could help me out (THIS IS ABOUT ZABBIX)
[22:21] <xnox> Pricey: well skype was running at 100% cpu for a while and I think it ate memory and swap. I've killed it but the swap is still used
[22:21] <xnox> I guess I'll just restart?
[22:22] <Pricey> xnox: I don't believe it is a problem.
[22:22] <drurew> xnox : restart x
[22:22] <xnox> Pricey: Ok than I'll leave as it is
[22:23] <xnox> drurew: well that would be like almost equivalent of restarting the computer all my apps gonna die anyway =)
[22:23] <r3rman> XDMCP - is there a newer howto doc for persistent sessions? And, which is better, vnc or XDMCP for high resolution (1920+) persistent sessions over net access (for short periods)
[22:23] <drurew> but most of your hard work wont be lost
[22:23] <cabrey> xnox, skype does that sometimes and i have no idea why
[22:23] <Ampelbein> tavi: ping -i 0.5 -s 100 <address>
[22:23] <r3rman> in addition, I need to have processes (visual ones) running while session is detached
[22:23] <tavi> aha
[22:24] <tavi> tx
[22:24] <drurew> xnox: why dont you just kill skype and terminal it to find its bugg
[22:24] <xnox> drurew: I'll killed skype couple of hours ago already
[22:25] <xnox> drurew: do not understand the "terminal it to find bug" though
[22:25] <drurew> terminal : skype (will run skype and its processes in the terminal , outputting skype buggs
[22:25] <drurew> )
[22:26] <antitab> hey so does anyone know which gstreamer plugin sets ship with ubuntu by default
[22:26] <ltcabral> is there any tool used to filter RPMS packages by certain requirements?
[22:26] <xnox> drurew: well Ok I'll do it next time when my swap is back to normal so I can monitor when the swap goes to 100%
[22:26] <antitab> between -base, -good, -bad, and -ugly
[22:26] <axisys> my laptop used to switch to external display/monitor before while docked.. now I have to reboot everytime for that to work..
[22:26] <xnox> see ya all and thanks
[22:27] <drurew> xnox:do you really have so little ram that your swap partition gets used up ?
[22:27] <Slart> ltcabral: are you talking about rpm's? installation packages?
[22:27] <ltcabral> Slart: RPM sources
[22:27] <neXyon> I've set up a home server to have all my mails from different accounts fetched, so that I have them in one centralized IMAP account, and I don't get the mails on every client I use (especially those mail accounts that only support POP), now I'd like to have something similar for newsgroups and RSS, does someone know how I could do that?
[22:27] <Slart> ltcabral: you're using ubuntu?
[22:27] <ltcabral> Slart: yes
[22:28] <mneptok> ltcabral: use .edb source packages
[22:28] <mneptok> *.deb
[22:28] <Slart> ltcabral: but why?... ubuntu has it's own packaging system.. apt
[22:28] <fccf> neXyon: have you tried using Thunderbird
[22:28] <ltcabral> Slart: im mirror-ing some repositories...
[22:28] <mneptok> ltcabral: Ubuntu repos do not use RPMs
[22:28] <ltcabral> Slart: not going to use the packages... :P
[22:29] <yaris123456789> is there a skin that gives matrix like minimalist gui?
[22:29] <Slart> ltcabral: oh.. I see.. hmm.. no idea really.. I would run an rpm-based distro in a vm or something
[22:29] <[nrx]> !compiz
[22:29] <neXyon> fccf: I'm using thunderbird yeah, but I use severall clients (all having thunderbird installed) and they get the RSS feeds and newsgroup posts seperately, so I always can read them twice at least :/
[22:30] <terry> how do i upgrade to ubuntu 9.04
[22:30] <Slart> !info rpm | ltcabral
[22:30] <Slart> ltcabral: that might be useful.. haven't tried it myself though
[22:30] <fccf> !worksforme | terry
[22:30] <fenn_> Hello! is anyone running jaunty on a Lenovo T60 or T61?
[22:31] <fccf> That said .. what version are you currently running?
[22:31] <Slart> !upgrade | terry
[22:31] <Slart> !anyone | fenn_
[22:31] <Slart> !laptop | fenn_
[22:33] <J_A_X> can anyone help me trying to install grub?  all the tutorials I've been reading doesn't work
[22:33] <J_A_X> can't find /boot/grub/stage1
[22:33] <cabrey> !grub
[22:34] <white_> #debian
[22:34] <fenn_> Slart, thanks - but I wanted to talk to a person on irc
[22:34] <Myrtti> fenn_: just ask
[22:34] <fccf> J_A_X: have you previusly installed ubuntu? is it on a different partition from where you are using the find stage1
[22:34] <r3rman> I tried that, but it didn't work aslong as you kept the window open
[22:35] <drurew> fccf:perhaps a . ed file
[22:35] <r3rman> that is, the asl connection wasn't working properly, but a net restart fixed it
[22:35] <Donnie> (= can someone help me.
[22:35] <J_A_X> I used DD to clone my old HD.  should be on the same partition.
[22:35] <liamo1> hello
[22:35] <God_Of_War> can anyone help me with something ? i am trying to connect in another channel but there is an error telling me that i must try /join#<chanel> althought i have already done this
[22:35] <Slart> Donnie: just ask your question.. if someone knows they might answer
[22:36] <r3rman> after that, the connection wasn't asl ow as it was before
[22:36] <fccf> J_A_X: so it is hd0,0 or some other drive?
[22:36] <Donnie> How do you go about installing aMSN on ubuntu?
[22:36] <lstarnes> God_Of_War: which channel?
[22:36] <PhotoJim> God_Of_War: /join #channel ... not /join#channel
[22:36] <Donnie> I have 0 clue.
[22:36] <Donnie> >.>
[22:36] <lstarnes> Donnie: sudo apt-get install amsn
[22:36] <Donnie> what is sudo apt
[22:36] <J_A_X> fccf: I'm hoping, but even doing 'root (hd0,0)' doesn't work
[22:36] <r3rman> aslmple way of installing software Donnie
[22:36] <Myrtti> Donnie: start up Synaptic Package Manager or Add/Remove and search for it
[22:36] <fccf> are you using the live disk?
[22:36] <drurew> Donnie: you use pidgin or kopete to chat, no need for msn on buntu
[22:36] <J_A_X> fccf: ya
[22:36] <``y7> i just added a new nic to my ubuntu system, should it show up under eth2? or would it show up under "eth0:avahi"?
[22:37] <Donnie> err
[22:37] <r3rman> drurew, you need msn for ubuntu
[22:37] <Slart> Donnie: sudo = "run this as root", apt-get is the package manager.. ie the thing that installs stuff for you.. install = command we send to the package manager.. amsn = the package name we want to install
[22:37] <fccf> go to system>admin>partitioneditor ... to see how your drives are layed out
[22:37] <God_Of_War> i have installed perl in my ubuntu...how can i go in the directory? my directory is /root/usr/perl
[22:37] <r3rman> drurew, offline messaging and video calls that asllow you to see
[22:37] <Donnie> zomg
[22:37] <Donnie> :O
[22:37] <cabrey> God_Of_War, /root?
[22:37] <Donnie> pidgeon works
[22:38] <Slart> Donnie: or use synaptic or Add/Remove in the applications menu.. all these basically do the same thing.. the end result will be the same
[22:38] <Donnie> TYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYyy
[22:38] <God_Of_War> how can i find perl throught terminal to run an exploit ?
[22:38] <FloodBot1> Donnie: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:38] <Donnie> :D
[22:38] <fccf> drurew: I think I'll ignore that
[22:38] <liamo1> donnie, sudo gives you admin privileges on you entire filesystem. Apt-get downloads the file in question to your system
[22:38] <Slart> God_Of_War: perl <your perl file> should work in any terminal
[22:38] <Randabis> be careful with sudo...you can break things with it :)
[22:38] <[nrx_]> !compiz
[22:38] <``y7> is this the correct way to setup 3 nics, 2 being static internal ips and one being external dhcp: http://www.grabup.com/uploads/98000922061520093717E738D802.png?direct     ????
[22:38] <cabrey> God_Of_War, /root is the root user's home directory
[22:38] <Donnie> oh
[22:38] <Donnie> hm
[22:38] <r3rman> I am using asl ow connection, and sometimes amsn needs to reconnect
[22:38] <Donnie> well..
[22:38] <Donnie> =) bye
[22:39] <God_Of_War> thanks cbrey for the information
[22:39] <muszek> hi... how do I disable the stuff printed out to STDOUT when I log in (ssh or "ctrl+1" terminal)?  This output prevents rdiff-backup from working properly.
[22:39] <fccf> J_A_X: go to system>admin>partitioneditor ... to see how your drives are layed out
[22:39] <liamo1> I am installing cuda on Ubuntu. I need to shut down the GUI (X windows). How do I do that?
[22:40] <drurew> fccf: I think so too
[22:40] <cabrey> !motd
[22:40] <bewby> I like butt
[22:40] <bastidrazor> liamo1, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[22:40] <``y7> how can i remove eth0, so it never starts again? in other words, if i reboot, it don't want to see it on ifconfig. i don't want it to start if i restart my networking, etc... ?
[22:41] <drurew> liamo1:ctrl+alt+bbackspace
[22:41] <bastidrazor> drurew, that won't stop it.. it will restart
[22:41] <cabrey> muszek, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=354514
[22:41] <Slart> !dontzap | drurew
[22:41] <ZachD> hai
[22:41] <Myrtti> bewby: a-ha. Did you have ubuntu related questions or problems?
[22:41] <ZachD> any1 here work for canonical?
[22:41] <unknown6> can someone help me out?
[22:41] <muszek> cabrey: I think your "motd" message will be enough, thanks
[22:41] <Myrtti> ZachD: why?
[22:41] <liamo1> thanks bastidrazor!
[22:41] <ZachD> wondering?
[22:42] <``y7> how can i remove eth0, so it never starts again? in other words, if i reboot, it don't want to see it on ifconfig. i don't want it to start if i restart my networking, etc... ?
[22:42] <Myrtti> ZachD: probably?
[22:42] <r3rman> i wonder h asl inux improved on msn more than the windows version? I think so
[22:42] <bastidrazor> liamo1, replace stop with start and it will restart again
[22:42] <Ampelbein> !ask | unknown6
[22:42] <fccf> ZachD: if they do they probably won't tell you so
[22:42] <togetic> sorry for being impatient earlier, my friend was here and i wanted this computer fixed so i could show him a few things, he's gone now. so i have time, but not much... anyone know what's going on. why isn't ls, cd, apt-get or any commands working, including my window managers
[22:42] <liamo1> Thanks you read my mind
[22:42] <unknown6> how can i change the dns on Ubuntu 8.04 LTS Server
[22:42] <bastidrazor> liamo1, good luck
[22:42] <ZachD> oh
[22:43] <fccf> ZachD: Do you have a ubuntu related support question?
[22:43] <``y7> how can i remove eth0, so it never starts again? in other words, if i reboot, i don't want to see it on ifconfig. i don't want it to start if i restart my networking, etc... ?
[22:43] <Slart> unknown6: /etc/resolv.conf .. check the man page for the dhcp client if you're using dhcp.. it will rewrite that file
[22:43] <lstarnes> ``y7: why do you need to remove it?
[22:43] <``y7> lstarnes, because it's in the way
[22:43] <iceroot> unknown6: sudo vi /etc/resolv.conf
[22:43] <lstarnes> ``y7: what do you mean by that?
[22:43] <``y7> lstarnes: i'm trying to get my ubuntu networking working and i have a feeling that nic is bad. i just want to make sure it doesn't interfier in any way possible. it's my onboard nic, else i'd remove it :(
[22:44] <Slart> ``y7: disable it in the BIOS instead... just a suggestion
[22:44] <Ampelbein> ``y7: easiest way would be to disable the onboard nic in the bios-settings of your computer.
[22:44] <Leaff> Does anyone have any interesting/clever/useful tips and tricks to modify ubuntu?
[22:44] <``y7> rgr that, thx for the great suggestion
[22:45] <liamo1> quit
[22:45] <gajop> what would be the best way to change an existing .deb package? i only need to add a line in the control part (postinstall thingy)
[22:45] <moreia> I just upgraded to 8.1.0 and everything went smoothly (okay, except for my audio but I haven't started troubleshooting that yet) except that I can't load my tomboy notes. Unfortunately, I used them heavily. Nothing happens if I launch it from the application menu; if I try to add it to the panel I get "The panel encountered a problem while loading OAFIID:TomboyApplet. Do you want to delete the applet from your configuration?"
[22:46] <moreia> Looking on forums and whatnot I can't find anything halfway recent about this.
[22:46] <Ampelbein> !packaging | gajop
[22:46] <unknown6> how can i config the dhcp in Ubuntu 8.04 LTS Server
[22:47] <jrib> unknown6: help.ubuntu.com, click on "Server GUide"
[22:47] <Flannel> unknown6: https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/serverguide/C/network-configuration.html
[22:47] <rascal999> ok i got vbox running ubuntu jaunty, i want to edit the live user session stuff say desktop background because this is what is booted when i remaster this distro in vbox. Can it be done?
[22:47] <Ampelbein> gajop: you can't just edit a *.deb directly, you have to change it in the source-package and build a new deb.
[22:48] <yaris123456789> is there a skin that gives matrix like minimalist gui?
[22:48] <rascal999> ok i got vbox running ubuntu jaunty, i want to edit the live user session stuff say desktop background because this is what is booted when i remaster this distro in vbox. Can it be done?
[22:48] <gajop> bah, that's a shame, i don't really want/need to learn the entire packaging thing; it's just some thing i'm helping for the faculty
[22:49] <Ampelbein> !persistence | rascal999
[22:49] <jrib> !packaging > gajop
[22:49] <jrib> gajop: it's not that hard, especially if the change is as trivial as you described
[22:49] <jrib> !source > gajop
[22:50] <fccf> gajop: there was a great session 3 days ago on #ubuntu-classroom hosted by mvo ... you might check the log for that one
[22:50] <fccf> !log | gajop
[22:50] <DasEi> !sound | tom-ubuntu-sound
[22:50] <fccf> gajop: that session was all about packaging
[22:50] <savid> Is it possible to make rhythmbox output audio to a different audio device (instead of my system default) ?
[22:50] <togetic> hmm.... chroot /mnt/kb1/ /bin/bachroot /mnt/kb1/ /bin/bash
[22:50] <togetic> chroot: cannot run command `/bin/bash': No such file or directory
[22:50] <muszek> ls
[22:50] <muszek> where can I find logs of recent ssh logins?
[22:51] <drurew> quit
[22:51] <J_A_X> fccf: I'm looking at gparted right now...
[22:51] <J_A_X> says I have 2 partitions, one at /dev/sda1 and the other is unallocated
[22:51] <togetic> eh, chroot /mnt/kb1 /bin/bash
[22:51] <gajop> thanks guys, you've all been very helpfull, i just don't have the time to learn that now; think ill just send them the line to edit and let them deal with it
[22:51] <J_A_X> (at 7.84mb)
[22:51] <yaris123456789> how do i give ubuntu more hd space ? i am using gparted. but dont know how to give ubuntu more space.
[22:52] <gajop> thought you could just edit it as mc seems to be able to open those files, but since not, i'm too lazy :P
[22:52] <fccf> J_A_X: ok /dev/sda1 @ 7.84mb cannot be your os too small
[22:52] <Ampelbein> gajop: i could create a package for you available in my ppa, if that helps.
[22:52] <J_A_X> no, that's the unallocated
[22:52] <fccf> oh
[22:52] <J_A_X> sda1 is at 149gig
[22:52] <gajop> Ampelbein: what's a ppa?
[22:52] <Myrtti> !ppa | gajop
[22:52] <Ampelbein> !ppa > gajop
[22:53] <gajop> Ampelbein: anyway, it's no biggie, it's only one line, not in a rush either, it only needs to be added at the start of the new semester, when they probably update their ubuntu boxes
[22:53] <fccf> J_A_X:  then your first hd is hd0,0 -- let me walk you through grub setup once I get the correct page loaded here
[22:54] <J_A_X> thanks :)
[22:54] <AlexKpow> Does anyone here have a lenovo?
[22:54] <unknown6> guys wend i type in /etc/resolv.conf it says permission denied why?
[22:54] <AlexKpow> unknown6: use sudo
[22:54] <fccf> J_A_X: sudo grub
[22:55] <raul_> Hola
[22:55] <fccf> AlexKpow: I have lenovo K220
[22:55] <fccf> !es |raul_
[22:55] <J_A_X> next?
[22:55] <fccf> find /boot/grub/stage1
[22:55] <``y7> Ampelbein, Slart: my bios conviently doesn't allow me to disable the onboard lan. asus ftl
[22:55] <J_A_X> error 15: file not found
[22:55] <nickolaus> I upgraded and now my wireless is gone.
[22:56] <nickolaus> help
[22:56] <unknown6> wend i type in sudo /etc/resolv.conf it says command not found why?
[22:56] <fccf> hmmm ... go back to gui... and mount the partition and verify that it is really there
[22:56] <AlexKpow> Sorry, lenovo notebooks**
[22:56] <rascal999> Ampelbein, thats good but how can i do this without usb stick?
[22:56] <[nrx]> !compiz
[22:56] <lstarnes> unknown6: that's not a command
[22:56] <lstarnes> unknown6: try sudo nano /etc/resolv.conf
[22:56] <snowrichard>  /etc/resolv.conf is a text file, not an executable
[22:56] <ruler> i have installed gcc please tell how to use it]
[22:56] <rascal999> i netboot the livecd, how do i remaster the livecd?
[22:56] <lstarnes> ruler: man gcc
[22:56] <nickolaus> I can't even enable wireless networking.
[22:56] <Ampelbein> ``y7: you have a soldering-iron at hand? just kidding.
[22:57] <nickolaus> it's just gone.
[22:57] <lstarnes> ruler: also, make sure you have build-essential installed
[22:57] <``y7> Ampelbein, i'm to that point actually.
[22:57] <nickolaus> any ideas how to fix this?
[22:57] <J_A_X> fccf: file browser's taking a while to just access it...
[22:57] <J_A_X> thinking...
[22:58] <yaris123456789> hey guys in gparted i cant resize the ubuntu partition. how do i shrink vista partition and give more to ubuntu ?
[22:58] <fccf> J_A_X: might not be a good partition .. you still have your backup?
[22:58] <J_A_X> yup
[22:58] <fccf> J_A_X: good man
[22:58] <J_A_X> yeah, I've done too maybe of those back in the day :P
[22:59] <J_A_X> so, you think it's just a bad copy then?
[22:59] <fccf> J_A_X: looks that way ... have you run fsck on it
[22:59] <unknown6> wend i type in sudo aptitude install apache2 php5-mysql libapache2-mod-php5 mysql-server it dosent work it says couldnt find any packages with that name why?
[23:00] <J_A_X> fccf: sure haven't
[23:00] <lstarnes> unknown6: it might be php-mysql and libapache-mod-php
[23:00] <Gustavo> When I let Ubuntu boot on its own, the mouse doesn't appear to work. (The only thing that works on the keyboard is Ctrl-Alt-Delete) . I can boot the recovery kernel (from GRUB) and the keyboard works in there. This happened once before, and I reset the HAL, but that doesn't appear to work anymore. Any suggestions?
[23:00] <fccf> J_A_X: might be a good place to start - fsck does fix things (if possible)
[23:01] <nickolaus> i just did a partial upgrade and now my wireless is gone. I don't even have the option to enable wireless. Can anyone help?
[23:01] <Heero2007> hi
[23:01] <J_A_X> cool, I'll try that out, and if it still doesn't work, guess I'm copying again :P
[23:01] <fccf> J_A_X: yep guess so ... but I'am no good at guessing
[23:02] <J_A_X> well, thanks anyways :)
[23:02] <nickolaus> i just did a partial upgrade and now my wireless is gone. I don't even have the option to enable wireless. Can anyone help?
[23:03] <fccf> !repeat | nickolaus
[23:03] <Ampelbein> ``y7: i don't have indepth-knowledge of the networking stack, but shouldn't it be sufficient to either delete eth0 from /etc/network/interfaces or set it to a static ip outside your local net and just use eth1 as your connection?
[23:05] <fccf> Guest70292: DANGER! it is dangerous to log on as root - especially on IRC --- In the future I would not log on as root when logging on to any public service
[23:06] <ruler> how to use i have installed gcc how can i use it
[23:06] <lstarnes> ruler: if you want the long explanation, man gcc
[23:06] <Ampelbein> ruler: write code, gcc <code.c>
[23:06] <fccf> ruler: short explanation ... get a book on C
[23:07] <Guest70292> does anybody know of how to determine the chipset on your wireless card? Ive tried the command `lspci` but dont know what to look for....any suggestions???
[23:08] <Ampelbein> Guest70292: pastebin the output of "lspci -vvnn"
[23:08] <fccf> Guest70292: I say again DANGER DANGER DANGER - you are logged on to this system as ROOT --- this is a major security problem -- Do Not Log Onto IRC as ROOT
[23:09] <nickolaus> i just did a partial upgrade and now my wireless is gone. I don't even have the option to enable wireless. Can anyone help?
[23:10] <Ampelbein> nickolaus: what wireless NIC do you have?
[23:11] <nickolaus> Ampelbein NIC?
[23:11] <Flannel> nickolaus: What do you mean "partial upgrade"?
[23:12] <Ko12upt3d> hey guys im having a problem i am trying to install nvidia by one click, The repo loads and it goes to install the package and is saying no kernel(vmi:) something found
[23:12] <redrabb1t> does anybody know how i determine the chipset of my wireless card?????
[23:12] <[nrx]> !compiz
[23:12] <Ampelbein> nickolaus: the chipset your wireless card has. i.e. the output of lspci -vvnn for your wireless
[23:12] <fccf> redrabb1t: type lspci into terminal
[23:12] <Ampelbein> redrabb1t: lspci -vvnn and look for wireless
[23:12] <nickolaus> Flannel ah, It just loaded upgrade manager and it said it would be a partial upgrade I let it do it and not my wireless is gone. I have 9.04
[23:13] <ecryptVictim> hi!
[23:13] <fccf> !hi ecryptVictim
[23:13] <J_A_X> fccf: erm, think you help me with this?  I'm looking at my backup hd, and normally there's like 3 partitions, the main one then the swap (or something like that).  well, the swap ain't there anymore
[23:13] <ecryptVictim> I have a severe problem. I hope ubuntu won't ruin me financially!
[23:13] <giancaldo> anyone also having problems with the ar5008 card and ath9k?
[23:13] <pusul> way to rip off debian guys
[23:14] <Ampelbein> ecryptVictim: why is that?
[23:14] <lstarnes> pusul: this isn't a trolling channel
[23:14] <ecryptVictim> I have installed ubuntu with the private folder option
[23:14] <pusul> :P
[23:14] <fccf> J_A_X: hmm  - did you delete it? is there a empty space there?
[23:14] <ecryptVictim> I though ubuntu will create a folder /home/user/private
[23:14] <nickolaus> Ampelbein http://pastebin.com/mea91380
[23:14] <pusul> hi@ faget
[23:14] <redrabb1t> ah ye...it says - Network controller [0280]: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG [Golan].....pardon my insolence ;) butwhere is the chipset???
[23:14] <J_A_X> fccf: seems unallocated
[23:14] <faget> hi@ pusul
[23:14] <PointMan> where can I find a guide on how to install ubuntu 8.04lts as a domU in xen? I checked google and the wiki..
[23:14] <ecryptVictim> that was the default behaviour. now ubuntu encrypted my entire private folder
[23:15] <ecryptVictim> ehrm I mean entire home folder
[23:15] <Flannel> pusul: Is there something we can help you with today?
[23:15] <J_A_X> fccf: there must be a way to fix that
[23:15] <fccf> J_A_X: thats a little wierd ... can you make it a swap again?
[23:15] <mcxbain>  change default language ubuntu server 8.04 LTS Hardy ?
[23:15] <ecryptVictim> I'm on a ubuntu live cd and cannot access my data
[23:15] <greg__> hi guys can someone help me - i've have an eeebox b202 which i use as a mythfrontend.  everything works perfectly with the exception of the hard disk - it is constantly clicking - checked system monitor and not RAM not even half used (presumed it was the pagefile constantly writing back and forth)  does it when it is idle with no data being sent/received from the box.  any suggestions?
[23:15] <Ampelbein> nickolaus: you have a broadcom BCM4312
[23:15] <lstarnes> redrabb1t: probably the 3945ABG
[23:15] <ecryptVictim> can somebody please help? this is existancial!
[23:15] <pusul> pusul: im dickin around with a livecd to move data; i probably won't need any help but i joined just in case
[23:15] <Gustavo> I'm logged in as root in the bash. How could I change to a different user and start the GUI (what's the name, again ... not xwindows, right? )
[23:15] <pusul> er
[23:15] <pusul> w/e
[23:15] <pusul> lol highlighting myself
[23:15] <fccf> J_A_X: there won't be any inportant data stored on swap... so loosing it isn't a major issue ... just reformat the unallocated as swap
[23:16] <lstarnes> ecryptVictim: what happens when you try to boot up normally?
[23:16] <Flannel> pusul: Sounds good.  Please try and keep the non-support chatter to a minimum, thanks.
[23:16] <nickolaus> Ampelbein any ideas?
[23:16] <redrabb1t> ah ok.....sorry its not my forte...thx for the reply + the help lstarnes
[23:16] <Ampelbein> nickolaus: that card should work, can you pastebin the command "dmesg"?
[23:17] <ecryptVictim> lstarnes: I have no ubuntu installed currently. I wanted to install it again..
[23:17] <ecryptVictim> I could cry :(
[23:17] <lstarnes> ecryptVictim: what likely happened is you lost the decryption key in the process
[23:17] <lstarnes> ecryptVictim: if the original root filesystem is still intact, you might be able to find that key
[23:17] <medar> cd
[23:17] <ecryptVictim> lstarnes: I fortunately didn`t use a random key
[23:18] <nickolaus> Ampelbein http://pastebin.com/m2f0b7c7e
[23:18] <ecryptVictim> lstarnes: I used a password.... but the problem is I think the password is useless because ecrypt is using a hash or something
[23:18] <ActionParsnip> hey guys, where can I change the username / password for transmission web ui please. Ii tried /var/lib/transmission-daemon/info/settings.json but i restarted the daemon and it is still using the default transmission / transmission. Can anyone please advise
[23:18] <J_A_X> fccf: not sure if it is swap.  it might of been more important (grub maybe?) cause I did the disk copy before and it worked right out of the box, now it doesn't
[23:18] <TREllis> laclasse: yo
[23:18] <lstarnes> ecryptVictim: it probably would
[23:18] <laclasse> TREllis, heya
[23:19] <``y7> Myrtti: all this hassle and it appears to be my eth0 nic that is no good
[23:19] <fccf> J_A_X: hmmm ... did you save the backup as a file or as a partition on another hd?
[23:19] <liamo1> bastidrazor: I'm back again. I tried and read the gdm script. on my system it shuts down X windows but hangs in the console!
[23:19] <ecryptVictim> lstarnes: /home is a 230gb partition and / "was" 20gb
[23:19] <J_A_X> fccf: it is a whole other drive
[23:20] <J_A_X> both are the same size
[23:20] <J_A_X> so I just used 'dd' to copy over
[23:20] <rdz> hi all. is anyone using zattoo peer-to-peer tv?
[23:20] <nickolaus> Ampelbein seeing anything?
[23:20] <ecryptVictim> lstarnes: as said there is nothing on / I formated it...
[23:20] <Ampelbein> nickolaus: nothing so far. what does "iwlist scan" say?
[23:20] <sebsebseb> ActionParsnip: didn't know it had a web ui???   and that's interesting your asking for help, because you normally provide it here, it seems
[23:21] <Leaff> What's everyone's favorite WM?
[23:21] <popey> rdz: yup
[23:21] <sebsebseb> Leaff: this channel isn't  for polls,  but you can ask  bestbot in #ubuntu-bots questions such as what is the best  window manager
[23:21] <Ampelbein> !polls | Leaff
[23:22] <nickolaus> Ampelbein  "Interface doesn't support scanning." three times for lo, eth0, pan0
[23:22] <Leaff> ):
[23:22] <fccf> J_A_X: can you read the backup?
[23:22] <``y7> if eth1 and eth2 are working and eth0 isn't in use. do i need to worry about setting anything up on eth0 for it to not be in the way?
[23:22] <peko> Yes !! hello
[23:22] <J_A_X> fccf: oh yeah, I can read, access, copy files over, no prob
[23:23] <ActionParsnip> sebsebseb: i dont know all, transmission has a web interface but it can be configured headlessly so relys on config files. ive seen a few which imply security but it seems to only like the default creds
[23:23] <Ampelbein> nickolaus: weird. try "sudo modprobe wl" and pastebin dmesg again after that command
[23:23] <J_A_X> but it seems that dd just doesn't work like it did before
[23:23] <sebsebseb> ActionParsnip: ok  I am not even sure what your on about even :d
[23:23] <ringo999> hi, I'm using Ubuntu on a macbook and have problems gettings the keyboard (German) to work correctly. Anybody have an idea?
[23:23] <Ampelbein> ``y7: you don't need to worry. If it's not used, it can't get in the way.
[23:23]  * agagag :Hi
[23:24] <ecryptVictim> lstarnes: what can I do?
[23:24] <sebsebseb> !keyboard |  ringo999
[23:24] <``y7> Ampelbein: awesome. thx for the help.
[23:24] <lstarnes> ecryptVictim: I'm not sure
[23:24] <sebsebseb> ringo999: I guess experiment with some differnet layouts in the keyboard app
[23:24] <fccf> J_A_X: ok run dd again ... this time have both drives unmounted and let'er rip for an hour or... how long does that take?
[23:24] <J_A_X> a few hours actually
[23:24] <ActionParsnip> sebsebseb: well you can control the torrents with a web interface, allowing you to control torrents for other PCs, even over wan.
[23:25] <J_A_X> and yeah, both drives were unmounted orignally
[23:25] <sebsebseb> ActionParsnip: ah ok
[23:25] <ecryptVictim> lstarnes: isn`t it possible to access your private folder when you have th password?? that would really suck
[23:25] <ActionParsnip> sebsebseb: ktorrent and vuse have them too
[23:25] <J_A_X> it's jsut that small partition thin that screws up
[23:25] <sebsebseb> ActionParsnip: didn't know that
[23:25] <ringo999> sebsebseb: mmm...
[23:25] <lstarnes> ecryptVictim: you would need the full encryption key
[23:25] <nickolaus> Ampelbein  I did sudo modprobe wl and it just connected... what did that do?
[23:25] <ActionParsnip> sebsebseb: but i got my g1 phoone today (sweet). the ktorrent app costs but the transmission one is free
[23:25] <ecryptVictim> ecryptVictim: but it is on my home folder too :(
[23:25] <ecryptVictim> which is encrypted
[23:25] <sebsebseb> ActionParsnip: the ktorrent app costs what?
[23:26] <ecryptVictim> with ubuntu's private folder thing
[23:26] <Ampelbein> nickolaus: it loads the driver, which should get autoloaded at boot.
[23:26] <ringo999> in debian i got it working through xorg.conf, but where does ubuntu read the settings from? right now there is no entry regarding keyboard settings in my xorg.conf
[23:26] <daleharv> is anyone familiar with gnome-do? I would like to to check what applications are running and focus them instead of opening a new instance if they are already running
[23:26] <daplumpkin> hi
[23:26] <fccf> J_A_X: i figured ... are you adding the modifier bs=1m might help ... so dd if=/dev/sdb1 of=/dev/sda1 bs=1m
[23:26] <sebsebseb> ActionParsnip: the company behind  QT want money for the G1 apps?
[23:26] <ActionParsnip> sebsebseb: the ap for the phone is 3 quid
[23:26] <ecryptVictim> lstarnes: is the full key somewhere on the / partition ?
[23:26] <nickolaus> Ampelbein  Well your my savor!
[23:27] <Ampelbein> nickolaus: try adding wl to the list of modules in /etc/modules, that should keep it loaded next boot.
[23:27] <ActionParsnip> sebsebseb: transmission is a free app so I'm down with that :)
[23:27] <lstarnes> ecryptVictim: it wouldn't be on the encrypted partition or there would be no way to decrypt it
[23:27] <sebsebseb> ActionParsnip: right, but Ktorrent is a KDE app and also open source so hum
[23:27] <luis_> helo
[23:27] <fccf> !hi | luis_
[23:28] <luis_> thanks
[23:28] <hh666> Is there any effective speech recognition engines for LINUX?
[23:28] <ecryptVictim> lstarnes: I mean if I could recover the / partition only do you think it would decrypt my private folder?
[23:28] <luis_> does any of u have some info on the GAmbas  2.0
[23:28] <Ampelbein> nickolaus: it would be interesting to know, why it wasn't autoloaded now, this could cause some harm. do you happen to remember what packages were not upgraded during your partial upgrade?
[23:28] <lstarnes> ecryptVictim: maybe
[23:28] <tonsofpcs> luis_: it's a RAD IDE.
[23:28] <hh666> I am currently using Dragon naturally speaking
[23:28] <jdsanderson> anyone have sucess burnin dl dvd in linux?
[23:28] <hh666> It is very accurate
[23:29] <fccf> !info gambas2
[23:29] <ecryptVictim> ecryptVictim: I mean the key must be somewhere on the / partition or how does it decrypt it??
[23:29] <hh666> Does anyone know the answer to my question?
[23:29] <lstarnes> ecryptVictim: say my nick, not yours
[23:29] <ecryptVictim> lstarnes: : I mean the key must be somewhere on the / partition or how does it decrypt it??
[23:29] <JJWilliams92> Hello
[23:29] <ActionParsnip> sebsebseb: true, but the author of the g1 app wants paying
[23:29] <hh666> I desire an effective way to talk
[23:29] <sebsebseb> !patience |  hh666
[23:29] <lstarnes> ecryptVictim: the key would have to be on the / partition or another unencrypted partition if it uses a key
[23:29] <sebsebseb> ActionParsnip: ok
[23:30] <fccf> JJWilliams92: welcome to ubuntu support
[23:30] <sebsebseb> ActionParsnip: you could try your question in ##linux by the way
[23:30] <lstarnes> ecryptVictim: it may use the password to decrypt the key so that it can be used for decrypting the volume
[23:30] <luis_> or maybe any suggestion on which developer tool should i try
[23:30] <greg__> can someone help me - my syslog is being spamed with [23:30] <ActionParsnip> sebsebseb: i think so
[23:30] <JoeyTreker> Hi all
[23:30] <fccf> hh666: perhaps we have a channel more suited to your native language? what is your native language?
[23:31] <hh666> My native language is English
[23:31] <ActionParsnip> sebsebseb: theres #transmission too
[23:31] <hh666> I am from the United Kingdom
[23:31] <ActionParsnip> sebsebseb: thanks though :)
[23:31] <luis_> im from mexico
[23:31] <ZachD> hai
[23:31] <sebsebseb> ActionParsnip: ok
[23:31] <sebsebseb> !ot |  hh666
[23:31] <ZachD> hello
[23:31] <fccf> ZachD: welcome back
[23:32] <Flannel> sebsebseb: that wasn't offtopic
[23:32] <fccf> !es | luis_
[23:32] <JJWilliams92> Could anybody explain to me why everytime I enter my network password it fills it in with extra numbers that I didn't put in?
[23:32] <sebsebseb> Flannel: ah right yeah now I see
[23:33] <luis_> anyone
[23:33] <ecryptVictim> It's not even my faul. but ubuntu's stupid encryption ruined me... I talk about over 15000euro which is los if I cannot recover this
[23:33] <yeoj_> hi luis.
[23:33] <ecryptVictim> I believed it encrypts only /home/user/private and NOT /home/user
[23:33] <lstarnes> ecryptVictim: you're the one who used the encryption and didn't backup the key
[23:34] <dma> hello
[23:34] <luis_> hi yeoj
[23:34] <fccf> luis_: gambas2 is a visual environment ... tie's in with gcc ...
[23:34] <DasEi> ecryptVictim: I just jumped in,what'syour prob ?
[23:34] <lstarnes> ecryptVictim: if you haven't overwritten the / partition, it may be possible to recover it
[23:35] <luis_> ok  fccf
[23:35] <greg__> can someone tell me how i disable my box's wireless lan - it appears to be spamming my syslog
[23:35] <greg__> (and i think that is maybe why the hard drive clicks so often)
[23:35] <luis_> r u there yeoj
[23:36] <muszek> greg__: hardware switch or in bios, or blacklist the kernel module
[23:36] <greg__> muszek - how do i blacklist?
[23:36] <ecryptVictim> lstarnes: I'm just running testdisk
[23:36] <DasEi> greg__: you can comment it in /etc/network/interfaces
[23:36] <Ampelbein> JJWilliams92: what extra numbers?
[23:36] <ecryptVictim> lstarnes: I've installed GDecrypt but don`t know howto use it.. and if it's the correc applicatin..
[23:36] <lstarnes> ecryptVictim: what was used for encryption?
[23:37] <JJWilliams92> Ampelbein: e.g normal pass: 02222 becomes 303232323232
[23:37] <greg__> dasei - don't see it in /etc/network/interfaces - all i see is auto lo
[23:37] <greg__> iface lo inet loopback
[23:37] <ecryptVictim> lstarnes: nothing, Ubuntu asked me if I want to encrypt a private folder
[23:37] <ecryptVictim> lstarnes: during setup
[23:38] <JJWilliams92> Ampelbein: I don't understand why it does that.
[23:38] <fccf> JJWilliams92: in what application?
[23:38] <lstarnes> ecryptVictim: which version of ubuntu was it?
[23:38] <muszek> greg__: about blacklist... sorry, I can't remember (not a pro).  google it and you'll be fine.
[23:38] <Ampelbein> JJWilliams92: so this happens when you enter it? or just when you lookup the key afterwards?
[23:38] <DasEi> greg__: right then,that entry has to be there, so fine, blacklist the kernel-module then
[23:38] <JJWilliams92> Ampelbein: It happens after I enter it and wait.
[23:38] <ecryptVictim> lstarnes: it was 9.04 Jaunty Final
[23:38] <Gourlis> Mac4Lin theme changed my Pidgin's Icon tray, I removed the theme completely but the icon still exist there. How can I have Pidgin as it was before? Anyone knows ? PLease help
[23:39] <DasEi> !blacklist | greg__
[23:39] <greg__> rt_ioctl_giwscan. 8(8) BSS returned, data->length = is what is constantly appearing in syslog - is the kernel module rt_ioctl_giwscan
[23:40] <greg__> ?
[23:40] <lex_well> Do anyone know how to disable the starter programs that are defined in Sessions?
[23:40] <Oven1> I have an ubuntu 9.04 computer hooked up to a mitsubishi wd-62327 TV through the DVI port on the TV.  My video card is an nvidia geforce 8400 gs.  Ubuntu is detecting my TV wrong and I cannot get the proper resolution.  I have tried this stuff https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution and thishttp://blog.freshnewpage.com/2008/04/26/nvidia-geforce4-420-go-on-ubuntu-804-hardy-heron/#comment-406.  But I am still stuck.  Any help would be 
[23:41] <greg__> ?
[23:41] <daleharv>  is anyone familiar with gnome-do, I want to have it focus already running applications instead of launching new instances
[23:41] <fccf> !nvidia | Oven1
[23:41] <Ampelbein> JJWilliams92: that could mean the key you entered is wrong. Look at http://blogs.gnome.org/dcbw/2009/05/12/i-was-told-thered-be-cookies/ for a short documentation on why you are seeing a different key.
[23:42] <Oven1> I dont think it is the nvidia driver.  It is the monitor that is detected
[23:42] <fccf> Oven1: have you tried using sudo nvidia-settings
[23:42] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[23:43] <Oven1> If I hook my computer up to another monitor (standard 1024x768 with the same card everything works just fine.
[23:43] <lex_well> Anyone knows how to disable the Starter Programs by the Terminal?
[23:43] <fccf> Oven1: ^^^ see my question
[23:43] <luis_> so what'snew
[23:43] <luis_> on any topoic
[23:44] <Oven1> I looked at the nvidia settings and it does not list the proper resolution of my TV
[23:44] <Flannel> luis_: This channel is just for support, for chatting, we have #ubuntu-offtopic.  Thanks
[23:44] <DasEi> greg__: which chipsetdoyouuse?
[23:44] <fccf> Oven1: what is the highest setting it has?
[23:44] <Crybaby> hello
[23:44] <luis_> ok sorry
[23:44] <Oven1> 1920x1040
[23:44] <hwilde> !hdmi
[23:44] <Gourlis> Mac4Lin theme changed my Pidgin's Icon tray, I removed the theme completely but the icon still exist there. How can I have Pidgin as it was before? Anyone knows ? PLease help
[23:44] <hwilde> help hdmi audio
[23:44] <Oven1> I want 1280x720 which is what my TV should do
[23:45] <DasEi> !brain | hwilde
[23:45] <ecryptVictim> lstarnes: I know the passphrase I used for eCrypt. Does this help??
[23:45] <greg__> hmm not sure but i think it is rt2860 as i get an error in syslog saying --> Error 2 opening /etc/Wireless/RT2860STA/RT2860STA.dat
[23:45] <lstarnes> ecryptVictim: you probably need the key too
[23:45] <dtchen> hwilde: should be massively improved in karmic alpha 2 (due end of this week); let me know if you're still experiencing problems
[23:45] <hwilde> DasEi, hdmi video works but now audio?
[23:45] <Crybaby> ecryptVictim: whats ecrypt?  is that what encryps the whole filesystem?
[23:45] <Oven1> I tried adding a new mode line and it did not help.  When I try to switch to it I get an error.
[23:46] <ecryptVictim> lstarnes: are you sure, or do I perhaps need the key?
[23:46] <lex_well> camon guys can anyone help me to disable the Starter Programs by the terminal?
[23:46] <hwilde> dtchen, my alsamixer only shows 1 line out, the hdmi is probably just muted right?
[23:46] <mneptok> Gourlis: did you restart you GNOME session?
[23:46] <lstarnes> ecryptVictim: I'm pretty sure you would need the key
[23:46] <ecryptVictim> lstarnes: damn :(((((((((((((((((((((((((888
[23:46] <hwilde> lex_well, you could apt-get remove them...  then they would not start anymore.
[23:46] <gogeta> lol
[23:46] <dtchen> hwilde: a bit difficult to tell from just that (vague) description; unfortunately i'm boarding a train now
[23:46] <fccf> Oven1: you might try using 1280x800 < this is the resolution that nvidia supports .. then use the format button on the tv remote to adjust for that size
[23:47] <ubuntiana> #ubuntu-it
[23:47] <Gourlis> meptok, yes.
[23:47] <lstarnes> ecryptVictim: in the future, remember to keep backups of keys for encrypted data
[23:47] <Oven1> Let me try putting in that resolution as a new mode and I will let you know what happens
[23:47] <lstarnes> ecryptVictim: it's always a good idea to have backups of any data, especially if it's critical data
[23:47] <fccf> ubuntiana: :-D /join #ubuntu-it
[23:47] <togetic> alright, so my problem was that after typing my username and password in kdm, i wasn't logged, i was returned to the kdm login screen, so then i went to a tty screen to figure out what's going on, but i can't even use common commands like ls, cd, and vim. i've rebooted into a live cd and chrooted into the computer, the output of echo $PATH looks fine: /usr/local/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/share
[23:48] <DasEi> greg__: try iwconfig to get  the info
[23:48] <Ko12upt3d> okay i got the exact error when i try to install nvidia go2 i get this error nothing provides kernel(vmi:fs) = ca01b69c8a181751 needed by nvidia-gfxg02-kmp-vmi-180.51_2.6.27.21_0.1-1.1i586
[23:48] <Gourlis> meptok, I removed completely also Pidgin and Installed it again.
[23:48] <DasEi> lex_well: got your answer already ?
[23:48] <ecryptVictim> lstarnes: In the future I won`t use linux ever again. I used it for 5years and was really happy. But now I hate it like death. >15000euro is lost!!! If I cannot access the data, which is still there but in a fuc*ing private folder :(
[23:48] <greg__> dasei - rt2860sta: module is from the staging directory, the quality is unknown, you have been warned.
[23:48] <greg__> oops no wait wrong paste
[23:48] <lstarnes> ecryptVictim: the problem isn't because of linux
[23:49] <greg__> ra0       RT2860 Wireless  ESSID:""  Nickname:"RT2860STA"
[23:49] <greg__>           Mode:Auto  Frequency=2.417 GHz  Access Point: Not-Associated
[23:49] <lex_well> hwilde: The problem is that I have a command that I was using to disable the nautilus to Draw my desktop !
[23:49] <fccf> !paste | greg__
[23:49] <lstarnes> ecryptVictim: it's because of ecrypt and having deleted the key for it
[23:49] <hwilde> help:  hdmi video is working, but not audio
[23:49] <matheuuz> alguem tem um interpretador de comando basico no linux ?
[23:49] <lstarnes> ecryptVictim: it's a very easy mistake to make on any OS
[23:49] <hwilde> lex_well, and you want the desktop back?  reinstall gnome-desktop
[23:49] <fccf> hwilde: audio doesn't come out of hdmi on most video cards
[23:50] <hwilde> !es | matheuuz
[23:50] <greg__> dasei - module name RT2860STA? would that be right?
[23:50] <kazagistar> ecryptVictim: sorry about that, but it is not the fault of the OS if the user does not make backups
[23:50] <Oven1> Just tried it and get this error xrandr: Configure crtc 0 failed
[23:50] <DasEi> greg__: it's a ralink, second, looking up module
[23:50] <lex_well> hwilde, should apt-get remove gnome for it? And then install it back?
[23:51] <hwilde> lex_well, just install gnome-desktop and see if that fixes
[23:51] <fccf> Oven1: xrandr doesn't work with nvidia == do you actually have nvidia installed ... please pastebin /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[23:51] <Ko12upt3d> im going to manually install this sob cause i hate this chit
[23:52] <ecryptVictim> lstarnes: I cannot believe that :( I have the password and remember it. But what do I need else...
[23:52] <lex_well> hwilde, I will try it, thanks!
[23:53] <Oven1> I installed it by going through the Hardware Drivers menu option.   I am using the 180.44 driver
[23:53] <fccf> Oven1: i'd like to see your xorg.conf
[23:53] <Oven1> I have the nvidia x server setting application.  That will change my display.  Xrandr works for all other display settings
[23:53] <Oven1> OK one moment
[23:53] <Oven1> Can you shoot me the link for the pastebin
[23:54] <fccf> !paste
[23:54] <lstarnes> ecryptVictim: you most likely need the key if the password itself doesn't work
[23:54] <da_man2009> Hello everyone. I recently ordered the latest version of Ubuntu (desktop version 9.04) and upon booting the LiveCD from the CDROM I get an error: BUG: INT 14: CR2 ffffb0f0. I've researched the Ubuntu forums and a myriad of articles on Google but I've been unsuccessful in finding something that helps.
[23:54] <hwilde> da_man2009, did you check the cd for errors?
[23:55] <J_A_X> what's the default ubuntu partitions when you select 'use entire disk'?
[23:55] <lstarnes> da_man2009: was it the 32-bit version or the amd64 version?
[23:55] <ecryptVictim> lstarnes: I don not even know which command I need to enter and where and how... I go to the terminal and then get root and then??
[23:55] <ecryptVictim> lstarnes: I don`t know howto test if the pwd works or not
[23:55] <Ketreva> I need help connecting to wifi, but I can wait in line if need be.
[23:55] <Oven1> I just put it in paste bin
[23:55] <da_man2009> The CD doens't have any errors.
[23:56] <greg__> dasei - away to go restart 2 seconds
[23:56] <Oven1> How do I get it to you now?
[23:56] <DasEi> greg__: sudo modprobe -r rt2500.ko
[23:56] <fccf> J_A_X: i think it uses the whole drive for the / minus swap - not sure how it automatically does swap
[23:56] <greg__> oh wait
[23:56] <togetic> how can you drop down into a root shell during recovery mode, it won't allow me to do it
[23:56] <DasEi> greg__: check if that stops the wifi
[23:56] <fccf> Oven1:  give me the link for the pastebin ... url after you post
[23:56] <ecryptVictim> togetic: sudo -s
[23:56] <greg__> FATAL: Module rt2500.ko not found.
[23:56] <Oven1> http://paste.ubuntu.com/192011/  I hope this is right
[23:57] <lstarnes> greg__: remove the .ko
[23:57] <togetic> ecryptVictim: when starting the computer?
[23:57] <greg__> syas same
[23:57] <lstarnes> ecryptVictim: I'm not sure, but someone else here probabky knows
[23:57] <lstarnes> *probably
[23:57] <togetic> meh
[23:57] <onyx> so what is the best c++ compiler with a GUI
[23:57] <Gustavo> How can I reset the HAL in Ubuntu? My moue and keyboard don't work in GDM.
[23:57] <cabrey> onyx, an IDE?
[23:57] <greg__> and FATAL: Module rt2860sta is in use for rt2860sta
[23:57] <maxbaldwin> onyx, 'geany'
[23:58] <robuntu> hey whats the command (ether to append to fstab or chmod,etc) to change the ownership of a ext3 partition?
[23:58] <onyx> cabrey: yes
[23:58] <ecryptVictim> Does somebody know howto access an ubuntu encrypted Private folder??? I need an ecryptfs command
[23:58] <Oven1> fccf did you get it?
[23:58] <cabrey> onyx, if you want just the ide and not a gui toolkit, eclipse is pretty good
[23:58] <fccf> Oven1:  you are using a custom binary... you have something I don't understand installed ... I reccommend running sudo nvidia-settings from terminal within GUI
[23:59] <Ko12upt3d> what package contains ld?
[23:59] <lstarnes> bastid_raZor: probably binutils
[23:59] <DasEi> greg__: sudo modprobe -r rt2860sta   ?           sudo modprobe -r rt2860sta.ko  ?
[23:59] <Ko12upt3d> i tried bindutils but its not in the repo list
[23:59] <orudie> greetings. is it possible to install ubuntu from usb ?
[23:59] <lstarnes> bastid_raZor: oops, that was for Ko12upt3d
[23:59] <kitche> Ko12upt3d: binutils but that should be automatically installed