| BUGabundo | kklimonda: reboot? | 00:11 |
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| kklimonda | nah, just lost connection.. | 00:11 |
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| markgsaye | jcastro: I'd like add my name as help contact into the channel topic, but do not have op rights - can you help? | 10:14 |
| markgsaye | jussi01: can you help? ^^ | 10:19 |
| jussi01 | markgsaye: who are you? | 11:18 |
| markgsaye | Hi jussi01: I am a Senior Software Developer for Canonical | 11:18 |
| jussi01 | markgsaye: can you somehow give me some sort of verification for that? | 11:19 |
| rodrigo_ | jussi01: I can certify he is what he says, if that serves :) | 11:19 |
| markgsaye | jussi01: my LP profile is at https://launchpad.net/~markgsaye - does that help? | 11:20 |
| jussi01 | markgsaye: 1 moment please | 11:20 |
| SteveA | sladen: hi | 11:28 |
| SteveA | sladen: we were just talking about oauth | 11:28 |
| SteveA | sladen: and I pointed you at http://oauth.net | 11:28 |
| SteveA | sladen: aquarius here is very familiar with how the ubuntu one systems use oauth, and how the dbus service works | 11:28 |
| aquarius | hey | 11:28 |
| sladen | SteveA: okay | 11:28 |
| aquarius | hey sladen | 11:28 |
| SteveA | and I happen to know he's got 15 mins spare to give a quick overview ;-) | 11:29 |
| sladen | aquarius: is that Aq under a more verbose name? | 11:29 |
| sladen | SteveA: fantastic, ta | 11:29 |
| aquarius | sladen: it is indeed :) | 11:29 |
| sladen | aquarius: can you sum up in two-three lines what actually happens. Something is running, that exposes com.ubuntuone.Authenication, which is it? | 11:30 |
| aquarius | sladen: /usr/bin/ubuntuone-client-applet exposes the com.ubuntuone.Authentication D-Bus interface | 11:31 |
| sladen | can (bearing in mind that I have not accepted the T&C, so can't run this), what component(s) pops up the password box | 11:31 |
| sladen | aquarius: so, that means that the gnome-applet is _required_. It's not possible to use just syncdaemon and it's u1sdsdsdtool | 11:32 |
| aquarius | ubuntuone-client-applet pops up the password box. that component handles the OAuth exchange for you, fetching an access token (which you authorise in the web browser). ubuntuone-client-applet then stores that access token in the gnome-keyring, and that storage action is what requires the password. | 11:33 |
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| aquarius | sladen: If you want to, you can fetch an authorised access token and store it in the gnome-keyring yourself; if that happens, then the d-bus interface is never called | 11:34 |
| aquarius | (because the syncdaemon looks for an access token and successfully finds it) | 11:34 |
| sladen | aquarius: okay, I'd like to document the manual method, as that is likely to (very accurate) show the procedure | 11:35 |
| aquarius | sladen: but I confess I've not actually *tried* that; I'm just reasoning from how it should work. | 11:35 |
| sladen | aquarius: but the basic premise is that the remote authenication (to get the token) is all done via the browser and a standard login to launchpad? | 11:36 |
| aquarius | sladen: yes | 11:36 |
| aquarius | sladen: that's the stock OAuth procedure; the way OAuth works is 1. program makes a request to get a request-token; 2. program pops up the user's browser to authenticate that request-token; 3. tell the program you've done it; 4. program uses the (now authenticated) request-token to get an access-token; 5. program stores the access-token and can from then on use it to access resources without having to ask the user | 11:38 |
| aquarius | sladen: (possibly you already know this!) | 11:38 |
| sladen | aquarius: no, oauth is so recent that I haven't had to use it in anger for any projects yet | 11:39 |
| jamesh | aquarius: the bits that the OAuth spec doesn't define is the actual URLs and supported signing methods. I suppose we should publish them somewhere. | 11:40 |
| sladen | aquarius: how does -applet get the actual return code (token) from the browser? | 11:40 |
| jamesh | sladen: it makes a call to the OAuth "access token URL" | 11:41 |
| jamesh | passing in the request token | 11:41 |
| aquarius | sladen: it doesn't. The browser just authorises the request token. The applet then calls the access-token url and says "you authorised this request-token; give me a corresponding access-token, please" | 11:42 |
| aquarius | jamesh: they should be published, indeed; it looks like the docs that sladen's putting together may do that quite nicely though :-) | 11:42 |
| jamesh | sladen: think of the request token as a "session identifier" for the authentication process. While it has a similar name to the access token, it has quite a different purpose | 11:43 |
| sladen | so there's a new session token (access token) each time the user logs in | 11:43 |
| sladen | it's not setup once when the Share is shared and kept | 11:43 |
| sladen | so the username and password get saved only in the Firefox keyring (normal launchpad login) | 11:44 |
| jamesh | sladen: the access token is stored in the keyring long term | 11:44 |
| sladen | and the token, that get stashed in the gnome-keyring is saved long-term, but is only useable for this session | 11:44 |
| jamesh | (at least for our client) | 11:44 |
| sladen | or should that this s/this session/this share/ | 11:45 |
| jamesh | sladen: the request token is a session identifier for the user authentication/authorisation process | 11:45 |
| jamesh | the access token that results from that process can be used long term | 11:45 |
| aquarius | sladen: the access token that gets stashed in the keyring -- think of it like a login cookie for a website, so you don't have to log in every time you go back there. | 11:46 |
| sladen | who exchanges the session identifier for the long-term access token? Is that syncdaemon, or -applet/ | 11:46 |
| jamesh | sladen: the applet -- it stuffs the access token in the keyring and then notifies anyone interested that it is available | 11:47 |
| sladen | so the -applet is effectively doing write-through cacheing. The first time (it's empty) it fires up the browser and saves the result, and returns it | 11:47 |
| sladen | and thereafter, -applet returns it straight away (to syncdaemon) | 11:48 |
| sladen | syncdaemon then includes this identifier as part as every single u1storage-based connection setup to the ubuntuonestoragefsapiserver | 11:49 |
| aquarius | I'm not sure whether syncdaemon calls the d-bus api to get the token. or whether syncdaemon actually looks in the keyring itself. jamesh? | 11:51 |
| jamesh | sladen: syncdaemon checks the keyring for the access token first. If no token is found, it asks the applet to acquire a token via DBus | 11:53 |
| jamesh | sladen: there is a fairly loose coupling between the two components | 11:53 |
| jamesh | that's how I remember it working ... | 11:54 |
| facundobatista | Hi all | 12:08 |
| CardinalFang | hiya, facundo. | 12:11 |
| jdobrien | hi facundo | 12:18 |
| facundobatista | Hi CardinalFang, jdobrien | 12:20 |
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| jblount | Hiya people! Anyone have access to a Windows Xp vm or similar that can test logging in with Opera 9.64 for me? | 16:39 |
| facundobatista | jblount, I am | 16:44 |
| facundobatista | jblount, I need to install Opera, though | 16:44 |
| jblount | facundobatista: Thanks! If you could install the current build (not the 10.x beta recently announced) and try to log in, I just need to confirm if someone can get through our LP SSO :) | 16:47 |
| facundobatista | god, how many steps to install something in Windows! | 16:47 |
| jblount | heh, 1241251 | 16:47 |
| facundobatista | jblount, it just work | 16:58 |
| facundobatista | jblount, I tried it not being logged in Launchpad, *and* already being logged in | 16:59 |
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| facundobatista | jblount, I also commmented the bug about what you asked | 17:39 |
| toros | hi | 17:56 |
| jblount | facundobatista: gracias | 18:02 |
| facundobatista | jblount, de nada, :) | 18:03 |
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| days_of_ruin_ | I dragged a tarball into my Ubunto One/My Files directory | 19:46 |
| days_of_ruin_ | but it doesn't upload it. | 19:46 |
| days_of_ruin_ | icon is rotating | 19:49 |
| days_of_ruin_ | but system monitor is showing that its not uploading. | 19:50 |
| facundobatista | days_of_ruin_, what the log says? | 19:53 |
| days_of_ruin_ | where is the log? | 19:54 |
| facundobatista | days_of_ruin_, ~/.cache/ubuntuone/syncdaemon.log | 19:54 |
| days_of_ruin_ | 2009-06-09 13:50:37,395 - ubuntuone.SyncDaemon - WARNING - Another instance is running | 19:55 |
| days_of_ruin_ | thats there because I tried to start another. | 19:55 |
| facundobatista | days_of_ruin_, try to remove all instances from memory and try again | 19:59 |
| days_of_ruin_ | still not working | 20:11 |
| toros | I have problems with the Ubuntu One client to | 20:16 |
| toros | and a guy on IRC had the same problem this afternoon too | 20:17 |
| facundobatista | days_of_ruin_, log? | 20:18 |
| Chipaca | days_of_ruin_: something is wrong with the service right now | 20:19 |
| days_of_ruin_ | its not just me? | 20:19 |
| days_of_ruin_ | its happening to everyone? | 20:19 |
| Chipaca | days_of_ruin_: correct | 20:20 |
| Chipaca | days_of_ruin_: or it might be; still diagnosing the problem | 20:20 |
| toros | ohh, an upgrade for the ubuntu one client | 20:20 |
| Chipaca | days_of_ruin_: any change? | 20:40 |
| days_of_ruin_ | I removed my computer from my ubuntu one account... | 20:41 |
| days_of_ruin_ | to see if that would help. How do I get it back? | 20:41 |
| days_of_ruin_ | The page isn't poppin up in my browser:| | 20:42 |
| facundobatista | days_of_ruin_, through the web page, I guess | 20:42 |
| dobey | days_of_ruin_: you'll need to delete the token from your local computer in Accessories->Passwords and Encryption Keys, under the Passwords tab | 20:43 |
| jblount | days_of_ruin_: ^^ and quit / reopen the applet. When it sees the token gone, it will help you setup a new one :) | 20:44 |
| days_of_ruin_ | When I try to reopen it it never shows up. | 21:04 |
| facundobatista | days_of_ruin_, reopen what? | 21:05 |
| days_of_ruin_ | when I click on Applications>Internet>Ubuntu One | 21:06 |
| days_of_ruin_ | or run it from a terminal | 21:06 |
| days_of_ruin_ | nothing happens | 21:06 |
| facundobatista | days_of_ruin_, did you follow the dobey and jblount instructions to get there? | 21:07 |
| toros | re | 21:10 |
| toros | it seems ubuntu one is working again \o/ | 21:10 |
| toros | do we know what was the problem? | 21:10 |
| facundobatista | toros, a frozen database connection that never timed out | 21:12 |
| facundobatista | toros, we're trying to see why that happened, but now it should work ok | 21:12 |
| toros | thanks for the info | 21:12 |
| toros | did somebody test the unshare feature? does it work? | 21:13 |
| toros | I rejected a directory shared with me - now I don't see it in the web interface, but according to u1sdtool it's still shared | 21:17 |
| days_of_ruin_ | yes I followed the instructions. But it worked just now :) | 21:26 |
| days_of_ruin_ | everything is working now | 21:30 |
| facundobatista | days_of_ruin_, great! | 21:32 |
| days_of_ruin_ | thanks for the help. | 21:32 |
| days_of_ruin_ | hrm. it seems to be happening again. | 22:41 |
| Chipaca | days_of_ruin_: let me see... | 22:43 |
| Chipaca | days_of_ruin_: nope, it's working here | 22:43 |
| days_of_ruin_ | I disconnected and reconnected and now its just "idle" and doesn't notice any new files. | 22:47 |
| medeshago | how can I change the ubuntuone folder? | 22:47 |
| Chipaca | days_of_ruin_: hmmm | 22:53 |
| Chipaca | days_of_ruin_: and there are new files? | 22:53 |
| Chipaca | medeshago: not yet, sorry | 22:53 |
| medeshago | Chipaca: thanks | 22:53 |
| Chipaca | days_of_ruin_: if you open a terminal and do "killall ubuntuone-syncdaemon; ubuntuone-syncdaemon --debug" you should get to "see" it working | 22:56 |
| days_of_ruin_ | Chipaca: I ran that, what am i supposed to see. | 22:58 |
| Chipaca | days_of_ruin_: copious output :) | 22:58 |
| Chipaca | days_of_ruin_: you should see it "noticing" new files, for one | 22:59 |
| days_of_ruin_ | I right-clicked the icon now and connected it. Now its working again. | 23:01 |
| Chipaca | ah :) | 23:02 |
| Ng | woo, working client in karmic \o/ | 23:57 |
| Ng | the spinny applet thing is spinning reeeeally fast :o | 23:58 |
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