[00:01] <rsarson> hello everyone!  can anyone tell me why the "users" command lists me as a user more than once?
[00:02] <mikubuntu> installed virtualbox, but it doesn't seem to appear anywhere in the menus
[03:38] <bernie_> is there any way I can use SUDO without putting in my password all the time?
[03:42] <cody-somerville> bernie_, it remembers your password for about 15 minutes
[03:42] <cody-somerville> bernie_, but it is possible to configure it to not require your password or not require your password for certain commands.
[03:43] <bernie_> that is what i want
[03:43] <bernie_> do you know which file to manipulate for that
[03:44] <cody-somerville> bernie_, yup. Modify the last line of /etc/sudoers which should read "%admin ALL=(ALL) ALL" to "%admin ALL=NOPASSWD: ALL".
[03:45] <bernie_> u rock
[04:22] <marybuntu> ok, time to show my ignorance.  i don't know how to back up my files from thunar onto a usb.  i have the usb mounted, and i opened thunar and tried to click and drag 'desktop' onto the usb icon on the desktop, but it doesn't copy.  what step am i missing?
[04:48] <TheSheep> marybuntu: are you sure the usb is not set to read-only?
[05:03] <Mike_lifeguard> to restart X in gnome, you can do "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart" -- what would be equivalent be in xubuntu?
[05:09] <TheSheep> same
[05:09] <TheSheep> except that if you do it from within X, it might not live long enough to bring it back
[05:09] <TheSheep> so better do it from one of the virtual consoles
[05:11] <Mike_lifeguard> yes, I'll note that as well...
[05:13] <Mike_lifeguard> thanks
[05:15] <marybuntu> TheSheep: sorry, i was away. how do i tell?  it just indicates that it is mounted.
[05:17] <TheSheep> marybuntu: right-click inside it, select properties and see if you have write access to it
[05:17] <marybuntu> TheSheep: k, lemme check
[05:19] <marybuntu> TheSheep: under permissions it says the 'permissions of disk could not be determined'
[05:19] <TheSheep> marybuntu: does that usb key have a switch for ro/rw ?
[05:22] <marybuntu> ummm, you mean a physical switch?  never knew they had such a thing.  do i have to unmount it to take it out?  incidentally, it seems to have copied three pictures totalling 1.6 MB when i tried to copy the whole desktop.
[05:22] <TheSheep> you have to unmount it before removing if you have written or deleted anything on it
[05:23] <TheSheep> it's safe to always unmount it though
[05:24] <marybuntu> i just lookd at an identical flash and it has no physical switch on it
[05:25] <TheSheep> you should be able to copy files onto it then :/
[05:26] <marybuntu> yes, i *should* huh, but i'm going to have to be smarter than the machine to accomplish that.  there's the rub.
[05:26] <TheSheep> it's easy to be smarter than a piece of metal :)
[05:27] <marybuntu> evrythings easy when you know how. :(
[05:29] <marybuntu> soooOOOOoooo, what do i do now ...  i want to upgrade this machine to 9.04 for mom, for some reason it's gotten sluggish over the last few months
[05:30] <TheSheep> system monitor should show you what programs are using the cpu
[05:30] <TheSheep> and/or memory
[05:32] <marybuntu> ya, i'm going to install a more minimal number of programs and stuff on the new version.  i've bogged firefox down with too many addons, and you can really feel it
[05:32] <marybuntu> but, what to do about transferring my files to the usb?  any other suggestions?
[05:33] <TheSheep> marybuntu: if you type 'mount' in a terminal, you should see if it's mounted read-only or rw
[05:34] <marybuntu> or even burn them to cd, there's really not that much on there; i just have never saved stuff before
[05:34] <marybuntu> ok, opening terminal
[05:35] <marybuntu> can i past the output here?  just about 10 lines.  or should i use pasteubuntu?
[05:36] <TheSheep> !pastebin
[05:37] <marybuntu> http://paste.ubuntu.com/191336/
[05:37] <TheSheep> it's rw
[05:38] <TheSheep> th last entry
[05:38] <marybuntu> so, then, i'm just not doing the procedure properly then
[05:38] <TheSheep> is there enough free space on it to fit your wdesktop?
[05:38] <TheSheep> *desktop
[05:39] <marybuntu> ya, its a new 2gb, plenty of space
[05:39] <TheSheep> what if you drag single files?
[05:40] <marybuntu> um, hadn't tried that.  just drag one by one?
[05:40] <TheSheep> try with one to see if it copies at all
[05:41] <TheSheep> also, if you right-click on a directory and select properties, it will count the total space taken by it, maybe it's slightly over those 2GB?
[05:41] <marybuntu> and let me get this straight.  i just drag the file from thunar window over to the '2 gb Media' icon on the desktop, right?
[05:42] <marybuntu> i'll check that, but i'm sure its not that large.  i go check now.
[05:42] <TheSheep> I usually open the icon in a second thunar window
[05:42] <TheSheep> and drag from one window to the other
[05:42] <TheSheep> but what you describe should work too
[05:43] <marybuntu> going to try to wrap my head around that while i'm cheking properties
[05:45] <TheSheep> there s also a cool program called 'baobab' for checking free space
[05:46] <TheSheep> it's not in the menus, but you should be able to run it from terminal or alt+f2
[05:47] <marybuntu> disk usage analyser is baobab, isn't it?
[05:48] <marybuntu> when i right click on desktop, i don't get anything
[05:48] <marybuntu> i have two thunar windows open side by side now
[05:55] <marybuntu> they *seem* to be going into the media now, one by one
[06:25] <marybuntu> TheSheep: 105 items totalling 16.2 mb ... told you it wasn't much, huh ... but i'm glad to save them anyways, thank you for help.
[06:27] <marybuntu> TheSheep: out of curiosity, what version(s) of what distro(s) do you run on your machine(s)?
[06:29] <TheSheep> no idea why it didn't work
[06:29] <TheSheep> marybuntu: xubuntu jaunty
[06:29] <TheSheep> marybuntu: and debian sid on the server
[06:29] <marybuntu> what's 'sid'
[06:30] <TheSheep> codename of debian version
[06:30] <marybuntu> ok, of course
[06:30] <TheSheep> releases of debian are codenamed by names of characters from toystory
[06:31] <TheSheep> afaik sid was the kid that broke all the toys
[06:31] <TheSheep> it's the bleeding edge testing version
[06:31] <marybuntu> haha
[06:31] <marybuntu> figures
[06:52] <marybuntu> 9.04 is jaunty, yes?
[06:53] <marybuntu> thx again, signing off to install 9.04
[14:39] <epictetus> hi
[14:39] <epictetus> sup
[14:39] <epictetus> xubunturians
[14:40] <SiDi> Hi
[14:43] <epictetus> stupid css is acting weird on my site http://www.efactusa.com
[14:43] <epictetus> i hate css
[14:43] <epictetus> are you guys programmers
[14:45] <SiDi> epictetus, i dont see what the hell css has to do with xubuntu :)
[14:45] <SiDi> and if you hate css, it'll hate you too
[14:45] <SiDi> (and me, by the meanwhile)
[14:45] <SiDi> so whats wrong with your css
[14:48] <SiDi> display: block; should be in a.navcell and not in a.navcell:hover epictetus
[14:48] <SiDi> apart from that, the main problem i see with your site is the idea of using dark green alongside purple
[14:49] <ablomen> http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.efactusa.com%2F&charset=%28detect+automatically%29&doctype=Inline&group=0 << you might want to validate your html too, before blaming css
[14:50] <SiDi> and using different headers on each page too. if they had the same height, why not, though
[14:50] <SiDi> ouch
[14:50] <SiDi> transitional !
[14:52] <SiDi> ablomen, we scared him :p
[14:52] <ablomen> hehe :P
[15:11] <SiDi> ablomen, Apache/2.2.9 (Debian) PHP/5.2.6-1+lenny2 with Suhosin-Patch Server at www.efactusa.com Port 80 is epictetus 's server
[15:11] <SiDi> since he doesnt use ubuntu server i think we shouldnt help him :D
[15:11] <ablomen> lol :P
[15:12] <ablomen> well to be fair, i use debian for servers myself, so i can relate ;)
[15:12] <SiDi> I dont use servers :P mine's down
[15:13] <epictetus> hehe thanks
[15:13] <ablomen> heh im guessing a windows server ;)
[15:13] <epictetus> i use xubuntu for desktops debian for servers usually
[15:14] <ablomen> same here
[15:18] <Aquina> hy! I'm wondering wethr apparmor is installed in Xubuntu by default. Seems like it's not!?
[15:18] <cody-somerville> Aquina, It is
[15:19] <Aquina> Oh "sudo aa-status" is the command... I'm sorry for shootin' too soon. .-)
[15:25] <Aquina> can someone tell me a really trustworthy source for apparmor profiles? Is "apparmor-profiles" within the ubuntu repo ok and up-to-date?
[15:30] <SiDi> no idea
[15:31] <SiDi> !info apparmor-profiles hardy
[15:31] <SiDi> !info apparmor-profiles jaunty
[15:31] <SiDi> !info apparmor-profiles karmic
[15:31] <Aquina> Oh and can someone tell me why "sysv-rc-conf" shows apparmor daemon only acitve in runleve "S"?
[15:31]  * SiDi now gonna learn what apparmor and runlevels are x_x
[15:32] <Aquina> :-)
[15:32] <Aquina> !info runlevels
[15:32] <Aquina> :-(
[15:32] <SiDi> info is for package information :)
[15:32] <Aquina> OH I see
[15:32] <Aquina> ;-)
[15:32] <SiDi> just wanted to see if it'd been updated lately -> wether it was maintained
[15:48] <Aquina> can you see that from the numbers only?
[16:31] <frgr> hi, I just installed xubuntu on a macbook with german keyboard, wondering how to get the keyboard working correctly? i tried to use my xorg.conf from another debian system where it works, but not here :-(
[16:43] <SiDi> frgr, hi
[16:43] <SiDi> you should go to Xfce settings -> keyboard
[16:43] <SiDi> and set the keyboard layout to MacBook, then set the locale layout to german
[16:43] <SiDi> and it should work :)
[16:44] <frgr> SiDi: ok i'll try that, how can i restart the xserver without having to reboot?
[16:44] <knome> ctrl+prntscr+k
[16:44] <knome> iirc
[16:45] <frgr> SiDi: normally that is ctrl-alt-backspace but i guess since my keyboard doesnt work correctly
[16:45] <frgr> thanks
[18:41] <frgr> SiDi: I'm still having problems with getting german keyboard on macbook to work. I have the following settings: model: macbook/macbook pro Intl layout: de variant: mac Is that correct?
[18:54] <frgr> anyone else who could help?
[22:14] <dsl740> hi, trying to install xubuntu on an older laptop, what are the best boot options to get everything working, noacpi?
[22:15] <MoonTiger> does it have enough ram?
[22:15] <dsl740> 1gb
[22:15] <MoonTiger> how old is old?
[22:16] <dsl740> 160 gb disk, p4 2.2ghz
[22:16] <dsl740> umm six years I think
[22:16] <MoonTiger> it should have acpi then
[22:16] <MoonTiger> are u having problems?
[22:16] <dsl740> last time i installed i had to keep tapping the keys to get the progress bar to move, it had done everything, it was like I was paging thru the install
[22:17] <dsl740> then i installed with noacpi and apart from having no touch pad during and post install everything seemed fine
[22:17] <MoonTiger> i installed it on my t41p which is slower than urs and it was fine
[22:18] <MoonTiger> does the live cd work?
[22:18] <dsl740> no, i tried that, the install works, just no touchpad
[22:19] <MoonTiger> what machine is it?
[22:19] <dsl740> currently on the laptop in question, booted from DSL bootable CD. Toshiba Satalite A30
[22:19] <dsl740> Just installed 1gb of ram and a 160 gb disk
[22:19] <MoonTiger> ok
[22:20] <MoonTiger> i would check for specific issues with that touchpad if the rest is wotking fine
[22:20] <MoonTiger> weird tho as there are only a fdew makes of touchpad
[22:20] <MoonTiger> and they all work as of jaunty at least
[22:21] <dsl740> I installed xubuntu 9.04
[22:21] <dsl740> your advice is sound, I'll give that a go and report back
[22:21] <dsl740> thank you
[22:21] <MoonTiger> anything in dmesg about the touchpad?
[22:21] <MoonTiger> np :)
[22:22] <dsl740> can't see anything specific
[22:23] <dsl740> i'll install again with no acpi, since its the only way I can complete the actual install
[22:23] <dsl740> and I have a usb mouse at the moment, but ideally wouldnt want to carry that with me
[22:23] <dsl740> thanks again
[23:27] <ringo999> hi I'm still having problems getting the keyboard to work on german macbook, anybody have an idea?