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Viper550it was either Gutsy or Hardy...00:00
Viper550however my dad demended Windows back when he discovered that the IM clients (I tried Kopete AND Pidgin) didn't seem to support the Yahoo/WLM interop.00:00
Viper550nm it was Gutsy00:02
Viper550yeah it was gutsy, but anyway00:07
Viper550so the direction for Karmic01:32
AnAntHello, are there any themes for GDM 2.26 ?06:45
thorwilmorning!08:36
SiDiheya08:37
SiDiwhat's up ?08:37
thorwilmacvr, you shouldn't count on that crude perspective thing in inkscape08:37
SiDimacvr, you should consider not using custom fonts when sending your emails to a list :] it doesnt look sexy at all08:37
thorwilmacvr, you could use the 3d box tool as guide, but ideally you should know hot to draw/construct in perspective manually. do you know about vanishing point perspective, or shall i give you 1 or 2 links?08:38
thorwiljust in case: http://drawsketch.about.com/library/weekly/aa021603a.htm08:45
thorwilhttp://www.khulsey.com/student.html08:45
macvrthorwil: i understand the vanishing points... but the links are useful too... actually i was trying to alter Andrew's folder... didnt want to restart from scratch as i'm toooooo lazy to do that :P09:34
SiDimy preference goes to a "2D" folder09:34
macvrSiDi: thats yahoo.. not me...! i sent that mail from yahoo, since i had to dig it out from the older mails09:34
SiDiit looks much more symetric when you have a lot of folders09:34
SiDimacvr, go for a good mail client, or mail.google.com :]09:35
macvrSiDi: u are too old style09:35
thorwilhardly09:35
macvrSiDi: i use thunderbird , but this was an old mail, hence09:35
macvrthorwil: yes he is, just for the folders!09:35
macvrSiDi: i have nearly 10 mail ids! i use this yahoo for mailing lists , since it allows several disposable address in case i get spammed!09:37
SiDii have many addresses too09:37
thorwili wonder how that can be worth the effort09:38
SiDii just didnt check most for 5+ years09:38
macvri use thnderbird.. for keeping them active :P09:38
macvrthorwil: i just hogged the mail id from several top mail sites, so that i can use my name as the id , rather than  _ _ _ 2k@ /14324 stuff :P09:39
macvrthorwil: any feedback about the smileys? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/BreatheIconSet/Submissions09:42
thorwilmacvr, the 48px sizes seem to have better proportions than the big ones09:45
thorwilmacvr, you should try to tweak the upper curve of the big smile to minimize the jaggedness09:45
macvrall or any one in particular?09:46
thorwilall09:46
thorwilmacvr, the closed mouth lines could do with very subtle gradients09:46
macvrthorwil: that i tried... :( but then i would have had to go more than 1px and it didnt look good09:46
macvr^upperlip09:47
macvrthorwil: which sizes are more frequently used?09:47
macvrsmileys and for the folders?09:47
thorwilno clue for smilies09:48
macvrfolders?09:48
thorwilfor folders i guess 48 and 2209:49
macvrok...09:49
thorwilwell, just take a screenshot of nautilus and check to be sure09:49
macvrnever thought of that^ :)09:50
thorwilmacvr, the smallest of smile-big looks like a different emotion09:50
macvri'll see if i can correct that09:51
thorwilmacvr, try a reflected linear gradient on smile-big teeth, white in center, very bright warm-grey to the sides09:51
macvrin all sizes?09:52
macvrthorwil: u could have given this idea yday :/09:52
macvr:P09:52
thorwilmacvr, maybe only down to including 3209:53
macvrthorwil: http://imagebin.ca/popup/rsFVlgBW.html09:58
thorwilmacvr, a bit less. but even so, i think it's an improvement09:59
macvrnothing seems possible for that upperline :(, the curve is the prob! will try with a straighter curver10:00
macvrcurve10:00
thorwilmacvr, though, you have to decide if the smilies shall look like printed on a slightly convex surface, or if you want it to appear like the surface itself is modeled to support the emotion10:01
macvrthorwil: ^i didnt understand10:03
thorwilmacvr, either a print on always the same round object, or similar objects that are shaped, where the "facial" features are not flat10:04
macvrif i understood u right...> i'm not trying to make the whole smiley as a curve, but only the edges are supposed to be curved, like the button pins ,but he smiley surface is flat.10:07
macvrthorwil: ^10:07
macvrthorwil: http://imagebin.ca/popup/QRmTvys.html , adjusted the upper line...also  how is the 16 px now?10:09
thorwilmacvr, i hardly notice a difference on the small one10:16
thorwilthe problem is that the upper lip appears to be horizontal, no curve10:16
macvrcompare to the submissions page, both the imagebin pics are edits10:17
macvrthorwil: u want the curve for the 16px too?10:17
thorwilmacvr, yes, if you can make it fit in10:18
macvrthat i'm not sure is going to be posible :(10:18
macvrat that scale getting so many curves was tough10:19
SiDimacvr, you should read about indicator-applet ;)15:43
SiDithunderbird will likely use indicator-applet asa someone patches it. it shouldnt use notify-osd as the biggest part of canonical's effort has been to prevent apps from using it for such information15:43
macvrSiDi: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NotifyOSD/Compatibility-Post904 ... notify-osd includes thunderbird. also i do know that the patch is what they are waiting for but when do they expect it was my question? links for the indicator applet?18:11
macvrSiDi: also i'v read the notify-osd too many times ... but not able to find the indicator applet wiki18:13
SiDii dont think there is a page for indicator-applet yet18:18
macvrSiDi: then how do i read about it :P ...18:23
macvrSiDi: this was what i found a long time ago >https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MessagingMenu/ < but it has no mention about thunderbird...18:24
macvrSiDi: also what did u think they had the email icon in the notify-osd for?  :P18:25
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