[00:00] it was either Gutsy or Hardy... [00:00] however my dad demended Windows back when he discovered that the IM clients (I tried Kopete AND Pidgin) didn't seem to support the Yahoo/WLM interop. [00:02] nm it was Gutsy [00:07] yeah it was gutsy, but anyway [01:32] so the direction for Karmic [06:45] Hello, are there any themes for GDM 2.26 ? [08:36] morning! [08:37] heya [08:37] what's up ? [08:37] macvr, you shouldn't count on that crude perspective thing in inkscape [08:37] macvr, you should consider not using custom fonts when sending your emails to a list :] it doesnt look sexy at all [08:38] macvr, you could use the 3d box tool as guide, but ideally you should know hot to draw/construct in perspective manually. do you know about vanishing point perspective, or shall i give you 1 or 2 links? [08:45] just in case: http://drawsketch.about.com/library/weekly/aa021603a.htm [08:45] http://www.khulsey.com/student.html [09:34] thorwil: i understand the vanishing points... but the links are useful too... actually i was trying to alter Andrew's folder... didnt want to restart from scratch as i'm toooooo lazy to do that :P [09:34] my preference goes to a "2D" folder [09:34] SiDi: thats yahoo.. not me...! i sent that mail from yahoo, since i had to dig it out from the older mails [09:34] it looks much more symetric when you have a lot of folders [09:35] macvr, go for a good mail client, or mail.google.com :] [09:35] SiDi: u are too old style [09:35] hardly [09:35] SiDi: i use thunderbird , but this was an old mail, hence [09:35] thorwil: yes he is, just for the folders! [09:37] SiDi: i have nearly 10 mail ids! i use this yahoo for mailing lists , since it allows several disposable address in case i get spammed! [09:37] i have many addresses too [09:38] i wonder how that can be worth the effort [09:38] i just didnt check most for 5+ years [09:38] i use thnderbird.. for keeping them active :P [09:39] thorwil: i just hogged the mail id from several top mail sites, so that i can use my name as the id , rather than _ _ _ 2k@ /14324 stuff :P [09:42] thorwil: any feedback about the smileys? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/BreatheIconSet/Submissions [09:45] macvr, the 48px sizes seem to have better proportions than the big ones [09:45] macvr, you should try to tweak the upper curve of the big smile to minimize the jaggedness [09:46] all or any one in particular? [09:46] all [09:46] macvr, the closed mouth lines could do with very subtle gradients [09:46] thorwil: that i tried... :( but then i would have had to go more than 1px and it didnt look good [09:47] ^upperlip [09:47] thorwil: which sizes are more frequently used? [09:47] smileys and for the folders? [09:48] no clue for smilies [09:48] folders? [09:49] for folders i guess 48 and 22 [09:49] ok... [09:49] well, just take a screenshot of nautilus and check to be sure [09:50] never thought of that^ :) [09:50] macvr, the smallest of smile-big looks like a different emotion [09:51] i'll see if i can correct that [09:51] macvr, try a reflected linear gradient on smile-big teeth, white in center, very bright warm-grey to the sides [09:52] in all sizes? [09:52] thorwil: u could have given this idea yday :/ [09:52] :P [09:53] macvr, maybe only down to including 32 [09:58] thorwil: http://imagebin.ca/popup/rsFVlgBW.html [09:59] macvr, a bit less. but even so, i think it's an improvement [10:00] nothing seems possible for that upperline :(, the curve is the prob! will try with a straighter curver [10:00] curve [10:01] macvr, though, you have to decide if the smilies shall look like printed on a slightly convex surface, or if you want it to appear like the surface itself is modeled to support the emotion [10:03] thorwil: ^i didnt understand [10:04] macvr, either a print on always the same round object, or similar objects that are shaped, where the "facial" features are not flat [10:07] if i understood u right...> i'm not trying to make the whole smiley as a curve, but only the edges are supposed to be curved, like the button pins ,but he smiley surface is flat. [10:07] thorwil: ^ [10:09] thorwil: http://imagebin.ca/popup/QRmTvys.html , adjusted the upper line...also how is the 16 px now? [10:16] macvr, i hardly notice a difference on the small one [10:16] the problem is that the upper lip appears to be horizontal, no curve [10:17] compare to the submissions page, both the imagebin pics are edits [10:17] thorwil: u want the curve for the 16px too? [10:18] macvr, yes, if you can make it fit in [10:18] that i'm not sure is going to be posible :( [10:19] at that scale getting so many curves was tough [15:43] macvr, you should read about indicator-applet ;) [15:43] thunderbird will likely use indicator-applet asa someone patches it. it shouldnt use notify-osd as the biggest part of canonical's effort has been to prevent apps from using it for such information [18:11] SiDi: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NotifyOSD/Compatibility-Post904 ... notify-osd includes thunderbird. also i do know that the patch is what they are waiting for but when do they expect it was my question? links for the indicator applet? [18:13] SiDi: also i'v read the notify-osd too many times ... but not able to find the indicator applet wiki [18:18] i dont think there is a page for indicator-applet yet [18:23] SiDi: then how do i read about it :P ... [18:24] SiDi: this was what i found a long time ago >https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MessagingMenu/ < but it has no mention about thunderbird... [18:25] SiDi: also what did u think they had the email icon in the notify-osd for? :P === SiDi is now known as SiDi_ === SiDi_ is now known as SiDi`Laptop === SiDi`Laptop is now known as SiDi === fabsh_ is now known as fabsh