[01:11] <BUGabundo> asac: hi
[01:11] <BUGabundo> Q: 3G dongle almost never works after hibernate/resume
[01:12] <BUGabundo> from fresh boot I have no prob
[01:17] <jeroen-> how can I update my firefox 3.5 b4 to b99?
[01:18] <BUGabundo> jeroen-: using the daily ppa
[01:18] <BUGabundo> jeroen-: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-daily/+archive/ppa
[01:18] <jeroen-> BUGabundo: ok, but that means it is updated daily
[01:19] <jeroen-> I only want b99
[01:19] <fta> we don't have a package for b99, at least not yet
[01:20] <jeroen-> ok than I just wait
[01:20] <jeroen-> thanks for your answers
[01:20] <BUGabundo> fta: speaking of b99
[01:20] <BUGabundo> what was that all about?
[01:21] <BUGabundo> yesterday you mentioned it
[01:21] <BUGabundo> were we supposed to be on RC ?
[01:21] <fta> a kind of last minute beta, pre RC
[01:24] <BUGabundo> so is mozilla now lauching backwards ? lol
[01:26] <fta> who knows, they don't talk to me
[01:27] <BUGabundo> heh
[01:27] <fta> chromium-browser                  5868   0.52%       422    1979    3467       0
[01:27] <fta> google-chrome-unstable            1270   0.11%        31       1    1238       0
[01:27] <fta> growing fast
[01:27] <BUGabundo> hehe
[01:27] <BUGabundo> publicity helps
[01:27] <fta> scary
[01:34] <NCommander> asac, fta, thunderbird-3.0 works
[01:34] <fta> good
[01:35] <NCommander> ^- on armel
[01:35] <NCommander> Of course, this still doesn't help the inarchive thunderbird problem :-/
[01:58] <micahg> is it normal for TB3 to start downloading all my mail?
[02:03] <fta> BUGabundo, http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=7425799&postcount=180
[02:13] <asac> micahg: yes. i think thats a feature
[02:16] <micahg> asac: so there's a local copy of the e-mail?
[02:17] <micahg> when do you think the addons will start being mostly compatible with TB3?
[07:06] <micahg> anyone around running ff3.5?
[07:11] <alexbodn> hello friends. the rules install process for a package i make installs the stuff correctly in $(CURDIR)/debian/bluegriffon/usr/lib/bluegriffon-0.1. where could i hook a rename to .../usr/lib/bluegriffon?
[07:36] <micahg> ping asac
[07:46] <micahg> asac: I'm going to sleep, but was wondering about bug 385128
[07:46] <micahg> It would have to be associated with TB as well
[07:46] <micahg> but I don't know if we wanted to do such a thing.
[07:46] <micahg> I'll check the logs in the morning
[07:46] <micahg> night
[10:27] <thekorn> hi mozillateam,
[10:27] <thekorn> I've got a few questions about FF extensions and url-handler, and packaging of this two things.
[10:28] <thekorn> one idea of https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/karmic-qa-increase-apport-adoption is to automatically launch 'ubuntu-bug' whenever a user clicks on '+filebug' links on bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu
[10:29] <thekorn> my understandig is that this needs two things: a extension to convert "somepackage/+filebug" links into "ubuntu-bug://somepackage" links
[10:30] <thekorn> and an url-handler which launches a proxy script, and at the end this proxy script launches ubuntu-bug
[10:32] <thekorn> doeas this make sense, or are there easier ways/more elegant ways to achieve this?
[10:37] <asac> thekorn: technically it makes sense
[10:39] <asac> however, i am not sure about security impact et al. should be done carefully
[10:39] <thekorn> asac, ok, good, thanks
[10:39] <thekorn> well security wise it should be the same arguments as apturl
[10:40] <asac> we dont convert links in apturl ;)
[10:40] <asac> sounds like a hack to me ... but maybe i just need to think a bit about it;)
[10:41] <thekorn> ok, noted your possible security related concers
[10:42] <stefanlsd> asac: still nothing on the google bug i logged re the licenses on those 3 files
[10:42] <thekorn> ok, then lets talk about packaging, I've started to work on it here: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~thekorn/+junk/apporturl/files
[10:43] <thekorn> for the extension part I followed the instructions on the wiki
[10:44] <thekorn> my problem is: I would like to split things up a bit, so instead of putting everything into the root of the project, I would like to have extension/ and url-handler/
[10:45] <thekorn> is there a way to tell mozilla-devscripts/xpi.mk to look for the extension in ./extension and not in ./ ?
[10:52] <asac> thekorn: so ... you can specify a custom BUILD_COMMAND ... which then could pack stuff in extenstions/
[10:52] <asac> i think there is a bug that requires you to produce the .xpi in top level dir though
[10:52] <asac> but thats just the final .xpi ... so imo shouldnt be a big problem
[10:53] <asac> so the default command is MOZ_XPI_BUILD_COMMAND ?= med-xpi-pack $(CURDIR) $(MOZ_EXTENSION_PKG).xpi;
[10:53] <asac> not sure if you have your own build command
[10:54] <asac> stefanlsd: hmm. ok.
[10:54] <asac> jcastro: do we know any gears contact?
[10:55] <stefanlsd> asac: is a matter of someone just saying yes,   google bsd license and putting it in the file...
[10:55] <asac> stefanlsd: prepare a patch and submit it as codereview
[10:55] <asac> e.g. do the work for them ;)
[10:56] <stefanlsd> asac: kk. will do.  svn. bleh :)
[10:57] <thekorn> asac, ok, so all I have to do is to make sure that there is a somename.xpi in the top level, and I can achieve this by creating my own MOZ_XPI_BUILD_COMMAND, correct?
[10:57] <asac> thekorn: yes. that will work
[10:58] <thekorn> asac, ok, thanks alot
[11:50] <mbana> how do i generate the hardware info when a bug report is submitted?
[11:52] <mbana> anyone experienced this bug; https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=356201
[12:26] <asac> sigh so archive admins want us to port more libxul-dev rdepends
[12:26] <asac> what a painful experience
[12:54] <fta> hi
[12:54] <fta> grrr, gwibber just crashed, again
[13:04] <fta> oh my! Get:1 http://ppa.launchpad.net karmic/main chromium-testsuite-dbg 3.0.185.0~svn20090610r18008-0ubuntu1~ucd1 [694MB]
[13:16] <asac> do we really need the -dbg packages for chromium testsuite?
[13:17] <fta> good question
[13:17] <fta> i still have some crashes when running the tests
[13:18] <fta> most now seem to be in libfakeroot-sysv.so
[13:18] <fta> http://launchpadlibrarian.net/27718018/buildlog_ubuntu-karmic-i386.chromium-browser_3.0.185.0~svn20090610r18008-0ubuntu1~ucd1_FULLYBUILT.txt.gz
[13:18] <asac> does chromium use jemalloc?
[13:19] <fta> no
[13:19] <fta> well, i don't think so
[13:20] <fta> is http://packages.ubuntu.com/ dead?
[13:22] <fta> asac, http://popcon2.ecchi.ca/package/chromium-testsuite.html#graph-0
[13:22] <fta> surprising
[13:23] <fta> http://popcon2.ecchi.ca/package/chromium-testsuite-dbg.html#graph-0
[13:28] <fta> asac, using ff 3.6, do you also have some artifacts around text fields?
[13:28] <fta> i can't take a screenshot :(
[13:34] <fta> asac, http://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/tmp/ff3.6-textfields.ogv
[13:37] <fta> BUGabundo, do see that too: http://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/tmp/ff3.6-textfields.ogv ??
[13:39] <asac> no
[13:39] <asac> but ogra had this yesterday: http://people.ubuntu.com/~ogra/ff_fonts.png
[13:39] <asac> which was KMS related as it seems
[13:39] <fta> could it be a dark theme bug?
[13:39] <fta> i'm using DarkRoom
[13:40] <BUGabundo> fta: checking
[13:40] <BUGabundo> fta:  empty to me
[13:40] <fta> ?
[13:40] <BUGabundo> let me wget it
[13:40] <BUGabundo> FF3.6 did not open it
[13:41] <BUGabundo> fta: it opens on totem
[13:41] <BUGabundo> any thing else?
[13:42] <BUGabundo> bbl
[13:42] <fta> lol
[13:48] <fta> asac, could you do something for xcb-util? i think it just needs a respin now that libxcb1 has been synced
[13:48] <asac> not sure. we are in pre alpha freeze
[13:49] <fta> it's broken for everyone i guess, i mean, when building from sourc
[13:49] <fta> e
[13:51] <fta> db4.6 is fine now. i just need libxcb-render-util0
[14:05] <asac> fta: how was db fixed? autoconf update?
[14:05] <fta> donno, i just received an update
[14:14] <fta> brb
[14:20]  * asac annoyed by working on messy xul 1.8 rdepends
[14:22] <fta> 1.8->1.9 or 1.8->1.9.1 ?
[14:24] <fta> I'm far from 10 sec... http://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/tmp/ix-karmic-20090610-1.png
[14:25] <asac> fta: ntpd?
[14:27] <fta> yep, i can probably move it later or drop it
[14:29] <fta> devkit-disks-pa seems to kill me too
[14:54] <fta> asac, better, but still far from 10 sec ;)  http://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/tmp/ix-karmic-20090610-2.png
[14:56] <asac> fta: do a fresh install ;)
[14:56] <asac> also dont use ifupdown ;)
[14:57] <fta> i need to buy a new hd, mine is slow and noisy, perhaps i will make a fresh install then
[14:57] <asac> fta: is that on your nc10 thing?
[14:57] <fta> no, desktop
[14:57] <asac> fta: if you do a fresh install, go for ext4 which boosts everything iirc
[14:58] <fta> my nc10 has other issues to sort out first
[14:59] <BUGabundo> I need to do that myself
[14:59] <BUGabundo> but need a new HD to a set of full backups
[14:59] <BUGabundo> on all current discs
[14:59] <BUGabundo> this laptop has the worse partition schema I could have made
[15:00] <BUGabundo> 10GiBs / ext3 , 8 GiBs swap, 300GiB Home XFS
[15:00] <BUGabundo> need to backp, format and make a SINGLE ext4
[15:00] <BUGabundo> and use swap on file
[15:00] <BUGabundo> hey rickspencer3
[15:00] <rickspencer3> hey!
[15:01] <BUGabundo> asac: about what I asked yesterday
[15:01] <BUGabundo> anyone reporting probs with 3G after hibernate?
[15:01] <asac> BUGabundo: not in general. but I expect that there are problems with certain chips
[15:02] <asac> BUGabundo: wanna search for bugs in the bug db?
[15:02] <asac> ;)
[15:02] <fta> hm, i need a fakeroot-dbg
[15:02] <fta> to trick the builders ;)
[15:02] <BUGabundo> asac: I did try but found nothing obvious
[15:03] <BUGabundo> asac: any quick workaround to make it connect, other then REBOOT ?
[15:03] <jcastro> asac: no I don't
[15:03] <asac> jcastro: ok. in case you find out it would help us to get gears in shape for the archive
[15:05] <jcastro> asac: ok
[15:06] <BUGabundo> asac: any quick workaround to make it connect, other then REBOOT ?
[15:06] <fta> BUGabundo, restart n-m ?
[15:06] <BUGabundo> did that
[15:06] <BUGabundo> changed usb ports
[15:07] <BUGabundo> restart nm-applet, networking, NetworkManage, even GDM
[15:07] <BUGabundo> only reboot seems to make 3G handshake work again
[15:08] <asac> BUGabundo: what hardware is that?
[15:09] <BUGabundo> my 3G dongle?
[15:09] <BUGabundo> huawei E220
[15:11] <asac> BUGabundo: at what stage does it fail after resume?
[15:12] <BUGabundo> I click on the Connect
[15:12] <BUGabundo> it starts to negotiate
[15:12] <BUGabundo> and then simply failes
[15:12] <BUGabundo> let me get the logs for you
[15:15] <asac> BUGabundo: please get serial and ppp debug logs
[15:15] <asac> thanks
[15:16] <BUGabundo> will do, next time
[15:16] <BUGabundo> funny enough it must have been scare, worked last time
[15:16] <BUGabundo> but it fails 8 out of 10
[15:17] <BUGabundo> I think I have the wiki stored offline, but better check
[15:47] <asac> fta: so how about using ~0hg for pre beta releases
[15:47] <asac> ~bhg for post beta snapshots
[15:47] <asac> ?
[15:47] <asac> or  ~ahg ... ~bhg ~phg (or ~rhg)
[15:48] <fta> i don't think it's needed
[15:48] <asac> not that it would have helped here
[15:48] <asac> fta: well. we release ~bX milestones
[15:48] <asac> hmm
[15:48] <fta> i guess final would be 3.5.0 or something
[15:48] <asac> ok i think i misthought
[15:48] <fta> so the bot will continue with 3.5.1~hg
[15:48] <asac> fta: we could have used ~pre+b99~hg
[15:48] <asac> or something
[15:49] <asac> to still upgrade from previous pres to b99
[15:49] <fta> hm, no, the 3.5 debs are ahead of b99 already
[15:50] <BUGabundo> yep
[15:50] <fta> asac, i think it's ok as it is now
[15:51] <fta> hmm, http://andrewsomething.wordpress.com/2009/06/10/ppas-and-daily-builds/
[15:53] <fta> bash scripts, lol
[15:57]  * asac still annoyed working on 1.8 rdepends. 
[17:18] <fta> asac, dtchen, jcastro: I need feedbacks for my daily bot docs. could you please have a look? http://paste.ubuntu.com/192733/
[17:25] <asac> fta: quick look looks good. i have to go through that when having a bit more time
[17:26] <fta> i need to know if it's good enough to use
[17:27]  * BUGabundo reads qucikly
[17:28] <BUGabundo> fta: other then the code that looks all the same to me
[17:28] <BUGabundo> text looks good
[17:29] <BUGabundo> couldn't find any tipo
[17:29] <BUGabundo> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~fta/%2Bjunk/ppa-confs/annotate/head%3A/ppabot-gwibber.conf
[17:29] <BUGabundo> do you really need that %20B there?
[17:29] <fta> it's ~
[17:29] <asac> fta: is all committed to your bzr branch?
[17:29] <asac> i would like to go through it and see if get some results when following the doc
[17:30] <fta> i'm about to commit the doc, everything else is in sync on lp
[17:33] <fta> committed
[17:34] <fta> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~fta/%2Bjunk/ppa-scripts/annotate/head%3A/README
[17:35] <fta> Subject: 	xulrunner-1.9.1_1.9.1~b99+nobinonly-0ubuntu1~fta1_source.changes rejected
[17:35] <fta> PPA exceeded its size limit (7627.00 of 7120.00 MiB).
[17:36] <BUGabundo> ahaahaahahahahahahahahaha
[17:36] <BUGabundo> ahaahaahahahahahahahahaha
[17:36] <fta> Subject:  firefox-3.5_3.5~b99+nobinonly-0ubuntu1~fta1_source.changes rejected
[17:36] <BUGabundo> ahaahaahahahahahahahahaha
[17:36] <fta> PPA exceeded its size limit (7628.00 of 7120.00 MiB)
[17:37] <fta> hm rhythmbox just died on me
[17:37] <fta> i guess there's no point in sending crash dumps
[17:38] <BUGabundo> ehe
[17:38] <BUGabundo> why not?
[17:39] <micahg> asac: I was wondering about bug 385128
[17:39] <micahg> I wouldn't make it a default, but should FF and Thunderbird be made handlers of the .xpi format?
[17:40] <asac> micahg: i dont think so.
[17:40] <asac> i think you gave the right argument already: e.g. its not clear whether firefox or xulrunner or thunderbird are responsible for an xpi
[17:40] <asac> without introspecting it first
[17:41] <fta> BUGabundo, my previous bugs were ignored, and now it's dead upstream
[17:41] <BUGabundo> eheh
[17:41] <BUGabundo> I know
[17:41] <micahg> right, but persia was telling me that you can have a package specify that it's a handler so that the desktop offers the option to open with that program
[17:41] <micahg> is that true?
[17:42] <micahg> like a right click
[17:47] <asac> micahg: you can have such a handler, but .xpi doesnt have a unique handler
[17:48] <asac> e.g. if oyu open .xpi with firefox that is ment to be opened with thunderbird it wont work
[17:48] <asac> also opening .xpi from command line with tbird doesnt work at all afaik
[17:48] <asac> i have to think a bit about it
[17:48] <micahg> right, so when you right cleck the person would get the option to open in FF, TB, songbird or any other mozilla product that uses xpis
[17:48] <asac> but i think that .xpi handler makes no sense unless we ignore all apps != firefox
[17:48] <micahg> user was using dolphin
[17:49] <asac> micahg: sure, but i dont like the idea that the user has to know which app can deal with a file when suggesting apps for handling it
[17:49] <micahg> I'm not saying to make it the default handler, I would think that should stay the archive manager
[17:49] <asac> think about zip. if you get multiple options all should work
[17:49] <micahg> but why not be able to right click and say open with Firefox or TB?
[17:49] <bratsche> Anyone here very familiar with the Firefox gtk/x11 code?
[17:49] <micahg> well, when you get an xpi, you know what app it's for, right?
[17:50] <micahg> people download them from addons.mozilla.org
[17:53] <micahg> asac: should I mark won't fix?
[17:54] <asac> micahg: i would say yes. if people complain leave it at confirmed forever
[17:57] <micahg> done
[17:57] <micahg> thanks
[18:17] <fta> BUGabundo, Rejected: PPA exceeded its size limit (23084.00 of 20480.00 MiB), i'm sure you're enjoying this ;)
[18:18] <BUGabundo> i'm
[18:18] <BUGabundo> ahaahaahahahahahahahahaha
[18:18] <BUGabundo> ahaahaahahahahahahahahaha
[18:20] <fta> http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2009/06/french-court-savages-3-strikes-law-tosses-it-out.ars
[18:25] <BUGabundo> out??
[18:25] <BUGabundo> lolol love the .ars extention
[18:25] <BUGabundo> ehehe
[18:25] <BUGabundo> GEEK
[18:26] <BUGabundo> "Innocent until proven guilty" still means something in France.
[18:34] <BUGabundo> fta: http://fileland.bugabundo.net/fotos/Linux/bootchart
[18:37] <fta> BUGabundo, there's nothing on that page
[18:37] <BUGabundo> humm?
[18:37] <BUGabundo> sure there is
[18:37] <BUGabundo> lots of bootcharts
[18:37] <BUGabundo> since hardy
[18:38] <BUGabundo> ahhh
[18:38] <BUGabundo> subalbuns ended up privae
[18:38] <BUGabundo> with last DB clean up
[18:38] <BUGabundo> a sec please
[18:39] <BUGabundo> karmic should now be visible
[18:41] <fta> 1:30?
[18:41] <fta> i'm at 0:45 now
[18:41] <fta> on my desktop
[18:42] <BUGabundo> very bad here :(
[18:42] <BUGabundo> need to make a new install
[19:49] <BUGabundo> fta: aahahahaahah
[19:50] <fta> not funny
[19:50] <BUGabundo> yes it is
[19:51] <BUGabundo> ok not as much as the user who posted his password and I redented it
[19:51] <BUGabundo> now he is chaning it everywhere
[19:51] <BUGabundo> and breaking everyservice that requires the pass to be entered
[19:51] <BUGabundo> lolol
[19:51] <BUGabundo> don't that once
[19:51] <BUGabundo> posted my pass to jaiku
[19:51] <BUGabundo> that's why I don't reuse passwords
[19:52] <BUGabundo> I wish I could use openid and OAuth everywhere
[19:53] <fta> i use different level of passwords, from very strong / very trusted to weak (and unique) for web sites & mailing lists
[19:53] <BUGabundo> yeah me too
[19:54] <BUGabundo> and try to change both pass and algorith often
[19:54] <BUGabundo> like 2 or 3 times a year
[19:54] <fta> asac, fennec requires xul trunk now, and the build-system is incomplete.. lacks l10n
[19:56] <fta> BUGabundo, how come you have gnome in your bootcharts and i don't? is there a knob or something?
[19:57] <BUGabundo> eheheheheh
[19:57] <BUGabundo> I hacked my bootchart script
[19:57] <BUGabundo> with a simple sleep 90
[19:57] <BUGabundo> so it counts extra info
[19:57] <fta> lol
[19:57] <BUGabundo> let me check
[19:58] <BUGabundo> I think it was line 58
[19:58] <BUGabundo> 2 lines bellow the other sleep its there
[19:59] <BUGabundo> $ gedit /etc/rc5.d/S99stop-bootchart
[19:59] <fta> yep, i'll figure out where, thought there was a nicer way
[19:59] <BUGabundo> line 31
[19:59] <BUGabundo> *41
[19:59] <BUGabundo> 	sleep 60
[19:59] <BUGabundo> 	# Kill the collector process, wait for it to end
[19:59] <BUGabundo> 	pkill -f /lib/bootchart/collector
[19:59] <BUGabundo> 	sleep 2
[20:00] <fta> for me, almost everything starts way past the 10 sec, so it will be tough
[20:01] <fta> too bad SSDs are so expensive and fragile
[20:01] <BUGabundo> fragile?
[20:02] <BUGabundo> I though they were supposed to be more resistent then rotatory disks
[20:03] <fta> i meant, limited number of write cycles
[20:04] <fta> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/Specs/KarmicSSD
[20:05] <BUGabundo> ah ok
[20:06] <fta> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solid-state_drive#Disadvantages
[20:06] <fta> still expensive here: http://www.rue-montgallet.com/prix/75012/comparer/836/Disques-Flash-SSD/
[20:14] <BUGabundo> yeah
[20:33] <BUGabundo> Detect the user's ubuntu version and display the corresponding sources.list by default in PPAs
[20:33] <BUGabundo> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/314370
[20:33] <BUGabundo> WOOT
[20:34] <BUGabundo> now we only need to have an easy way to add repos and keys
[20:44] <fta> asac, http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~fta/%2Bjunk/ppa-scripts/annotate/head%3A/README improved
[20:55] <fta> Estimated repository size: 6.7 GiB (96.56%) of 7.0 GiB
[20:56] <fta> let's see if i can stick b99 in that
[20:57] <BUGabundo> eheh
[22:02] <asac> fta: thanks. i think i will try to use that doc to setup a NM bot or something
[22:02] <BUGabundo> asac: lolo
[22:02] <fta> cool
[22:02] <asac> i think there are a few things that are not entirely clear
[22:03] <asac> but cant tell details until i try to deploy something
[22:04] <fta> let me know on the flow
[22:04] <asac> intersting
[22:04] <asac> if you go and register a project
[22:05] <asac> you get a prominent "do you want CDs instead"
[22:05] <asac> https://edge.launchpad.net/projects/+new
[22:05] <BUGabundo> ahahah
[22:05] <asac> "Oh, I want Ubuntu CDs"
[22:05] <BUGabundo> yeah new users keep mailing lp-users for CDs
[22:05] <asac> not sure why they think folks think registering a project will make CDs to be send out
[22:05] <asac> but well ;)
[22:05] <BUGabundo> asac: yeah new users keep mailing lp-users for CDs
[22:05] <asac> register a team doesnt have that hint
[22:06] <fta> at UDS, CDs were not that popular
[22:06] <asac> probably because everyone there has decent bandwidth ;)
[22:06] <Nafallo> fta: people was looking for the free usb sticks ;-)
[22:06] <fta> there were a ton left at the end
[22:07] <fta> Nafallo, yep, probably. i nice 8G stick would have been nice
[22:07] <fta> -i+a
[22:07] <Nafallo> 1GB is well enough :-)
[22:08] <asac> we could make a deal with vodafone and get a prepaid dongle for everyone with 2G traffic included ;)
[22:08] <asac> or t-mobile etc ;)
[22:08] <Nafallo> haha
[22:08] <asac> now we just need to teach the bios to do 3g so one can bootstrap it ;)
[22:08] <Nafallo> that's like... TWO isos.
[22:09] <Nafallo> almost three
[22:09] <asac> right. similar to a USB image i guess
[22:09] <asac> just that vodafone etc. probably give the hardware for free ;)
[22:09] <asac> but people probably would need to sign something ;)
[22:10] <BUGabundo> NAND memories are now more expensive then they were 18 months ago
[22:10] <BUGabundo> I bought a 8GiBs and now the 4GiBs cost more
[22:10] <asac> memory is quite volatile yeah
[22:11] <fta> hmm.. https://edge.launchpad.net/~thefirstm/+archive/karmic-testing .. ff & xul?
[22:11] <fta> why bother rebuilding a daily?
[22:12] <BUGabundo> ahahhhah
[22:13] <asac> fta: guess the guy is scared that we could automatically upgrade something else from our ppa
[22:13] <asac> like he wants xul 1.9.1, but also gets xul 1.9 dailies
[22:13] <asac> so he does his own selection
[22:14] <fta> but why change changelog then? a copy of the binaries should be enough
[22:14] <asac> dont ask me ;)
[22:14] <fta> *sigh*
[22:14] <asac> most likely he didnt find the copy button
[22:14] <BUGabundo> eehhe
[22:14] <BUGabundo> email him
[22:14] <asac> not everybody uses PPAs as frequently as we do
[22:15] <fta> oh, i've been granted 10G in my own ppa, i've dropped 40 packages for nothing
[22:16] <asac> heh
[22:16] <asac> yeah
[22:16] <asac> fta: what are you using your ppa for still?
[22:16] <asac> we should really create a ppa for milestone builds soon i thihnk
[22:16] <fta> 2G for my staging, lol, ridiculous
[22:16] <asac> lots of people want the latest, but not the dailies ;)
[22:17] <asac> wonder if we could automate the tag triggered builds similarly
[22:17] <asac> think should work well as long as upstream has a parsable syntax for tags
[22:17] <fta> i know, i pushed 99 to my own ppa as the people who asked me already have my ppa in their sources list
[22:18] <asac> k
[22:23] <fta> -rw-r--r-- 1 fta fta 440522262 2009-06-05 21:57 chromium-testsuite-dbg_3.0.184.0~svn20090605r17731-0ubuntu1~ucd1_amd64.deb
[22:23] <fta> -rw-r--r-- 1 fta fta 693531756 2009-06-10 06:09 chromium-testsuite-dbg_3.0.185.0~svn20090610r18008-0ubuntu1~ucd1_amd64.deb
[22:23] <fta> 440 MB -> 693 MB in 5 days
[22:24] <fta> hmm. 1 new binary + everything else growing: http://paste.ubuntu.com/192974/
[22:25] <BUGabundo> fta: don't you like -H ?
[22:25] <BUGabundo> eheh you already use SI units LOL
[22:26] <fta> d'oh! perf_tests  6 MB -> 314 MB
[22:26] <BUGabundo> ahhahah
[22:28] <fta> oh! Estimated repository size: 21.3 GiB (85.04%) of 25.0 GiB
[23:00] <BUGabundo> fta: you got a stalker?
[23:00] <fta> :)
[23:49] <BUGabundo> fta: "Based on last 1000 dents posted in the last 2 days daily  average is 500 but excluding days without dents, the average is 250  "
[23:52] <fta> ?
[23:52] <fta> BUGabundo, you dented 1000 times in 2 days?
[23:52] <BUGabundo> according to http://www.macno.org/denticator-jq/flot.php yes
[23:53] <BUGabundo> I guess that's the prob of national holliday
[23:53] <BUGabundo> and tomorrow I have another
[23:53] <fta> no, 1000 times in 1 day and 0 the next day
[23:53] <BUGabundo> heehehehehehe
[23:53] <BUGabundo> but those numbers are not correct
[23:53] <BUGabundo> looking at my dent numbers, I didn't even make 100
[23:54] <BUGabundo> only at 10,6k
[23:55] <BUGabundo> fta: asac: don't you guys sub to the denticator group?
[23:55] <BUGabundo> for it to collect your stats too
[23:55] <fta> according to identica, you dented about 140 times in the last 24h
[23:56] <BUGabundo> http://www.macno.org/denticator-jq/flot.php?user=welcomebot
[23:56] <BUGabundo> where are you seeing that?
[23:56] <fta> http://identi.ca/bugabundo?page=7 =W less than 7 pages x 20 dents
[23:57] <BUGabundo> eheheh
[23:57] <BUGabundo> you scroll all that?
[23:57] <fta> 1000 dents looked crazy to me
[23:57] <fta> but you're crazy anyway
[23:57] <fta> ;)