[00:22] <spm> Ng: "spinny applet thing"? I do enjoy your technical precision in descriptions. ;-)
[00:44] <dobey> Ng: yeah i've no idea why it does that. there must be some weird race somewhere
[00:47] <Ng> spm: it takes years of practice ;)
[00:52] <dobey> spm: yeah. i'm disappointed he didn't mention cloud computing at all. :)
[00:54] <spm> lol
[09:47] <rodrigo_> morning
[09:48] <SteveA> hi rodrigo!
[10:09] <refic> almost 3 weeks and still no invitation
[10:10] <refic> yargh
[10:10] <refic> :)
[10:24] <Ng> hmm, I just noticed that permissions aren't tracked by ubuntuone - is that a client bug/limitation, or should I file it on the whole thing?
[10:46] <rodrigo_> morning (again) :)
[10:47] <rodrigo_> hmm, nobody has op on this channel?
[10:48] <popey> rodrigo_: it's generally recommended on freenode that people dont stay opped
[10:48] <popey> rodrigo_: rest assured there are people with op here
[10:48] <rodrigo_> so who can change the topic?
[10:49] <rodrigo_> jussi01: ?
[12:43] <facundobatista> Hi all
[12:51] <rodrigo_> hi facundobatista
[14:17] <dobey> Ng: what permissions?
[14:17] <Ng> dobey: mostly I care about +x
[14:18] <Ng> I have ~/bin/ symlinked into my UbuntuOne folder and after I re-installed my laptop, all my scripts got synced down (yay!), but had no +x
[14:18] <Ng> I filed it as bug #385511
[14:20] <dobey> Ng: hrmm. although tracking +x could expose some problems as well, in terms of security
[14:20] <Ng> dobey: I could see a good argument for tracking it all the time, but having the client only apply it when it's in "My Files" and not in "Shared With Me"
[14:21] <dobey> Ng: that might work
[14:23] <Ng> I'm not actually sure if inotify will tell you when permissions change, but if not it would be a good excuse to fix inotify ;)
[14:25] <dobey> Ng: well at the least, i think it tells you the file changed, and not permissions specifically
[14:26] <Ng> :)
[14:26] <dobey> but if the file changes, we should stat() it and update appropriately
[14:28] <dobey> hmm, the allhands survey is lacking some options that could be useful
[14:30] <__lucio__> dobey: like: what brand of beer should we serve next time
[14:34] <popey> \o/ kwak!
[14:34] <dobey> heh
[14:34] <dobey> doh. now /i/ did it.
[14:35] <dobey> __lucio__: clearly we should opt for local microbrews for these sorts of things
[14:55] <rmcbride> dobey: I'm pretty sure that Estrella Damm is as close to a "micro" brew as Barcelona gets. It's definitely the flagship beer there. I don't think we saw a single microbrew in any of the bars we went to in Las Ramblas
[14:56] <__lucio__> but they all served Estrella Damm
[14:56] <__lucio__> that doesnt sound too micro
[14:56] <rmcbride> no it's not. It's just as close as it gets to being local
[14:57] <__lucio__> rmcbride: im waiting to try your beer on the next sprint
[14:57] <dobey> rmcbride: it's local because we passed the brewery on the highway :)
[14:57] <rmcbride> dobey: we passed TWO of them
[14:57] <rmcbride> __lucio__: yea I need to get my brewing setup back in order. Need to replace all the glass pipes and such
[14:59] <dobey> http://www.beeralewhatever.com/cerevseraartisanal.html
[14:59] <dobey> most of the bars we went to were small dives.
[15:00] <rmcbride> dobey: True, too bad we didn't find the place you linked
[15:01] <dobey> yeah, apparently there are a few more too
[15:01] <dobey> but catalunya is more about cava and wine than beer i guess
[15:01] <BUGabundo> good afternoon everyone
[15:02] <dobey> and we found plenty of cava on thursday
[15:02] <rodrigo_> :D
[15:13] <jdobrien> hi BUGabundo
[15:13] <BUGabundo> hi jdobrien
[15:14] <dobey> holas banditos
[15:15] <BUGabundo> ola dobey. who is the new gadjet?
[15:17] <dobey> hmm?
[15:19] <BUGabundo> the 5.6" laptop
[15:20] <dobey> well, it's the poulsbo video, so video doesn't work so well
[15:20] <dobey> but wireless works surprisingly nicely
[16:26] <pygi> hi
[16:26] <pygi> I got the invitation for ubuntuone, but its weird since I cant do anything xD
[16:27] <rodrigo_> hey pygi
[16:27] <pygi> I got 4 of them!
[16:27] <rodrigo_> 4 invitations?
[16:27] <pygi> hi rodrigo_, my friend
[16:27] <pygi> how are you doing :)
[16:27] <pygi> rodrigo_: yes o.O
[16:27] <rodrigo_> pygi: very well, and you?
[16:27] <pygi> none is sane, since they don't work
[16:27] <pygi> rodrigo_: perfect, just a bit busy :)
[16:28] <pygi> libburnia, gsoc, and uni :-
[16:28] <pygi> :-/
[16:28] <pygi> rodrigo_: I heard you were at UDS!
[16:28] <rodrigo_> hmm, Chipaca was looking at some wrong accounts, maybe it's related?
[16:28] <rodrigo_> pygi: yes, you were not, right?
[16:28] <pygi> rodrigo_: I was!
[16:28] <pygi> cool, fifth invitation...
[16:28] <rodrigo_> really???
[16:28] <pygi> 7th...
[16:28] <Chipaca> jdobrien: pin
[16:28] <pygi> wth?!?!
[16:28] <Chipaca> jdobrien: g
[16:28] <rodrigo_> man, I should have known
[16:29] <pygi> rodrigo_: yea :(
[16:29] <rodrigo_> pygi: I'm sure we walked by each other a few times :(
[16:29] <Chipaca> jdobrien: I suspect pygi's problem answers your question?
[16:29] <pygi> rodrigo_: :-/ yup, probably :(
[16:29] <pygi> rodrigo_: next time perhaps? :)
[16:29] <jdobrien> pygi: crap..sorry
[16:29] <rodrigo_> pygi: so now you use ubuntu, not opensuse? :)
[16:29] <rodrigo_> pygi: yes, of course
[16:30] <pygi> rodrigo_: actually, I'm on archlinux now :P
[16:30] <rodrigo_> :)
[16:30] <pygi> jdobrien: its not a problem, just thought I should report it :)
[16:30] <pygi> rodrigo_: I use what I feel like using at a given moment :p
[16:30]  * jdobrien prepares for some hate mail
[16:30] <pygi> jdobrien: any idea what happened?
[16:30] <jdobrien> pygi: you got a bunch of emails right?
[16:30] <dobey> jdobrien: what flavor of hate are you expecting, so i can send you something different?
[16:31]  * pygi has to make sure his Ubuntuone-ala app won't do that :P
[16:31] <pygi> jdobrien: yes
[16:31] <rodrigo_> pygi: wise thinking :)
[16:31] <rodrigo_> ubuntuone-ala?
[16:31] <jdobrien> pygi: we're approving invitation requests...someone has something funky that is throwing an error after the email is sent :(
[16:31] <pygi> yea, before ubuntuone was even announced, I was creating something like it, just open source
[16:31] <pygi> so you can host your own server
[16:31] <pygi> (well, the file sync/sharing part at least)
[16:32] <jdobrien> pygi: have they stopped...please say yes :)
[16:32] <pygi> jdobrien: yes
[16:32] <pygi> rodrigo_: mac, linux, win, and could use either your own server, CloudFiles or S3 :)
[16:32]  * Chipaca sends a couple of fake invitations to pygi to keep jdobrien worried
[16:33] <BUGabundo> pygi: ifolder ? or AFS ?
[16:33] <pygi> BUGabundo: mehold :p
[16:33] <BUGabundo> pygi: want one more invite? ehehe
[16:33] <pygi> BUGabundo: a real one?! :p
[16:33] <BUGabundo> sure why not
[16:33]  * jdobrien blushes
[16:33] <pygi> omg
[16:33] <BUGabundo> unless the system is all crazy up
[16:33] <pygi> it works now
[16:33] <pygi> :P
[16:34] <pygi> congrats for fixing it :p
[16:34] <pygi> rodrigo_: too bad we didn't meet :(
[16:34] <pygi> what sessions were you mostly in?
[16:34] <rodrigo_> pygi: yes :(
[16:35] <rodrigo_> pygi: but well, now that I know you go always to UDS, I'll look for you :)
 Chipaca: hmm
[16:35] <jdobrien>  problem
[16:35] <jdobrien>  Chipaca: I hope it's erroring before sending emails
 jdo: :)
[16:35] <rodrigo_> pygi: desktop mainly
[16:35] <pygi> rodrigo_: this was my first time actually :p
[16:35] <rodrigo_> pygi: ah
[16:35] <rodrigo_> pygi: and what do you in ubuntu?
[16:35] <pygi> rodrigo_: right now? Nothing anymore :)
[16:35] <pygi> I do work on Bazaar however
[16:36] <rodrigo_> good
[16:36] <pygi> rodrigo_: and since when do you ubuntu? xD
[16:37] <rodrigo_> since april, although I'm an old debian user, always had a couple of debian servers at home
[16:37] <rodrigo_> now they are ubuntu :)
[16:37] <BUGabundo> rodrigo_: eheh
[16:37] <pygi> BUGabundo: I  wanted something new to play with, so I decided to do that, a free dropbox :p
[16:37] <BUGabundo> I guess Ubuntu is *only* stealing debian quota on servers
[16:38] <BUGabundo> pygi: DB is free, and paid too
[16:38] <BUGabundo> same as U1
[16:38] <BUGabundo> the client and API is open
[16:38] <pygi> BUGabundo: I know, but you can't host your own server :)
[16:38] <BUGabundo> only server side is closed
[16:38] <pygi> nod
[16:38] <BUGabundo> pygi: well there's a request for that on DB
[16:38] <pygi> that's what I meant with free, you know :)
[16:38] <BUGabundo> which they replyed to consider in the long run
[16:38] <BUGabundo> like 2012
[16:39] <BUGabundo> then you meant installable
[16:39] <pygi> possibly :)
[16:39] <pygi> work got in the way of fsevents module implementation tho
[16:39] <pygi> since I can't test without mac xD
[16:41] <pygi> whoever fixed my invitation to u1 thanks btw ;)
[16:42] <dobey> BUGabundo: actually, the dropbox client isn't open
[16:42] <BUGabundo> dobey: isn't it?
[16:42] <dobey> BUGabundo: the only part that is open, is the nautilus extension, which isn't the actual client
[16:42] <BUGabundo> ohh the nautilus extention is
[16:42] <BUGabundo> not the actuall daemon, yet
[16:42] <BUGabundo> eheh
[16:42] <dobey> BUGabundo: the client daemon itself, isn't open, it's part of the giant binary blob download it does on first run
[16:43] <pygi> I can't see why would that daemon be so hard to reverse engineer...
[16:44] <rodrigo_> no need to reverse engineer if you have an open protocol available in u1 :)
[16:45] <BUGabundo> pygi: thers an API
[16:45] <dobey> pygi: well, if it's all ssl to the server, then it could be difficult :)
[16:45] <BUGabundo> you can implement any client you want
[16:45] <BUGabundo> same as U1
[16:46] <pygi> dobey: ha! perhaps, only perhaps :p
[16:46] <pygi> rodrigo_: heheheh :D
[16:47] <pygi> rodrigo_: since when are you on canonical's payroll? :P
[16:47] <rodrigo_> pygi: and see http://blogs.gnome.org/rodrigo/2009/06/03/desktop-datasettings-replication/
[16:47] <rodrigo_> pygi: since april :)
[16:47] <pygi> rodrigo_: bleh, cool :)
[16:48] <dobey> pygi: i brought him over to the dark side ;)
[16:48] <rodrigo_> :D
[16:48] <pygi> nooooooooo, my mentor is on the dark side now!
[16:48] <pygi> rodrigo_: desktop team or? Btw. I read that post earlier, couchdb++ :)
[16:48] <rodrigo_> pygi: no padawan, I still do gnome work :)
[16:49] <rodrigo_> pygi: online services, so u1
[16:49] <pygi> rodrigo_: btw zeitgeist uses (for now) bzr for revision history
[16:49] <rodrigo_> pygi: working on the desktop integration, all stuff open source, so just on the dark side because dobey is on my team, the rest is ok :D
[16:49] <rodrigo_> pygi: yea, couchdb seems not very good indeed for rev history
[16:51]  * jblount wishes he could sync all the . files in his ~ with Ubuntu One. 
[16:51] <pygi> jblount: why aren't you able to do it now?
[16:51] <rodrigo_> jblount: that's coming soon :)
[16:52] <jblount> pygi: Too much manual configuration. I could move it all to my share, then symlink it back, but I'm a web developer with work to do :)
[16:52] <jblount> pygi: As rodrigo_ indicated, we'll be doing this in a super awesome way soon, but it doesn't help me migrate to a new laptop _now_ :)
[16:52] <pygi> :P
[16:52] <pygi> too much marketing talk for me :P
[16:52] <pygi> rodrigo_: btw. working for PSF this year
[16:53] <rodrigo_> PSF?
[16:53] <pygi> python software foundation
[16:53] <dobey> jblount: i don't want to sync them :)
[16:53] <rodrigo_> ah, cool
[16:53]  * dobey likes his private keys to be private
[16:53] <pygi> rodrigo_: btw. p2p sharing in private network would be cool :P
[16:54] <jblount> dobey: Good point...
[16:54] <pygi> one client which has access to internet downloads stuff from U1 server, and syncs it to other clients in local network
[16:54] <rodrigo_> pygi: yeah, with couchdb it's very easy to do that
[16:54] <pygi> rodrigo_: the problem with couchdb is that its a bit memory intensive
[16:55] <BUGabundo> pygi: DB has been promising P2P for an yeatr
[16:55] <rodrigo_> pygi: is it? I can't really notice it's running here all the time
[16:55] <rodrigo_> pygi: although don't have numbers yet
[16:55] <pygi> BUGabundo: and since when are you on canonical's payroll? :P
[16:55] <jblount> dobey: wtf is up with this 10x speed spinning icon?
[16:56] <pygi> rodrigo_: hm, well, it certainly isn't light :)
[16:56] <dobey> jblount: no idea. your files are syncing really fast?
[16:56] <refic> :)
[16:57] <BUGabundo> pygi: me??? I'm just an happy alpha tester
[16:57] <jblount> dobey: :p
[16:57] <dobey> jblount: i really don't know though. it's hardcoded to 10fps, and blocks additional requests to start, so i'm a bit confused myself
[16:57] <BUGabundo> dobey: :))
[16:57] <jblount> dobey: Oh, so you've seen it? I thought it was just happening with me.
[16:58] <dobey> jblount: you aren't the only one to report it, no :)
[16:58]  * BUGabundo just noticed U1 isn't installed since last breakage
[16:59] <refic> so, are there any plans for bigger storage plans?
[17:03] <dobey> refic: there are plans for additional services
[17:03] <refic> alright :)
[17:03] <BUGabundo> refic: and I guess you can always have a special request
[17:09] <jblount> refic: Are you just thinking bigger like 20GB or "Backup my laptop" like 500GB ?
[17:12] <refic> jblount: well, like ~50GB
[17:12] <sladen> BUGabundo: re: your question from a couple of hours ago;  based on my (analysis), of the (current) functionality of the (closed) server side, it's likely only a couple of days work to reimplement it from scratch
[17:12] <sladen> BUGabundo: (which you are welcome to do, and to provide your own diskspace)
[17:13] <BUGabundo> sladen: I don't do code
[17:13] <BUGabundo> but I do an hell of a job finding bugs, sugesting features, and promoting it
[17:13] <sladen> BUGabundo: pay somebody else to reimplement it.  Do you want a quote?
[17:14] <pygi> sladen: heheheheh
[17:15] <BUGabundo> sladen: ah??
[17:15] <BUGabundo> I'm fine with the way it is
[17:15] <BUGabundo> I use both DB and U1 as I see fit
[17:15] <BUGabundo> I have no trouble with server implementaion beeing closed
[17:15] <BUGabundo> I would just love to be able to install it on my own HW
[17:15] <dobey> if you can reimplement our server in only 2 days, more power to you :)
[17:15]  * BUGabundo humm wonders if there is an wishbug for that
[17:16] <sladen> dobey: web interface excluded
[17:16] <BUGabundo> dobey: sudo apt-get install ubuntuone-server
[17:16] <dobey> sladen: even without the web ui, it is a significantly larger amount of work :)
[17:16] <BUGabundo> dobey: sladen: anyone said it would have to be free?
[17:16] <BUGabundo> you can not only sell storage and services, but Server too
[17:17] <BUGabundo> not every user needs to have MultiUser support
[17:17] <pygi> dobey: may I ask how so?
[17:17] <pygi> (I mean, I'm sure the server has more then I'm thinking of, but...(
[17:18] <pygi> _
[17:18] <pygi> )
[17:18] <dobey> although, you need at least some web ui, for the oauth
[17:19] <dobey> pygi: well, it's taken us a lot more than 2 days, and we're still not done... so :)
[17:20] <pygi> dobey: hehe :)
[17:21] <pygi> dobey: understandable :P
[17:21] <sladen> dobey: nah;  for the use-case BUGabundo wants (and anyone else with their colo server), you don't need to implement authenication, or permissions, or sharing.  Only exporting of a real-world directory view and a long list of mappings from hash objects to each of those files/directories
[17:22] <BUGabundo> sladen: just that is a the bare minium
[17:22] <BUGabundo> you guys can make Plans for that and more
[17:22] <BUGabundo> and beat the competiion
[17:22] <sladen> dobey: eg. the difference between s1sync and ubutunone-storage-syncdaemon
[17:23] <dobey> sladen: then you don't need anything. just rsync a directory tree to an ssh server
[17:23] <dobey> which will get you auth and permissions for free
[17:23] <dobey> you definitely need auth
[17:23] <dobey> but that's not ubuntu one
[17:24] <dobey> if you want to re-implement ubuntu one server, you are going to take more than 2 days to do it :)
[17:24] <rodrigo_> yeah, at least 3 or 4 :D
[17:24] <sladen> dobey: to copy the server-infrastructure wholesale, yes, weeks, and several more for testing
[17:29] <rodrigo_> bbl
[17:51] <tcole> I think weeks is about right for the basic server
[17:51] <tcole> that might be a little smaller once we document the protocol semantics a bit better, but not much
[17:52] <tcole> even ours is not a huge piece of software, but it is somewhat subtle
[17:59] <sladen> yeah, I might give it a go (as an interlectual challenge) at the point where's there's enough outline documentation that the implemtentation will take less time than working out /what/ needs to be written first
[18:04] <sladen> is the '[storagefs-local]' stuff for when you guys are running a local instance of the server on your desktops?
[18:05] <kenvandine> dobey: am i crazy or is the applet icon spinning much faster now?
[18:06] <kenvandine> makes me think it is syncing faster :)
[18:07] <BUGabundo> kenvandine: 2nd one reporting that
[18:07] <BUGabundo> kenvandine: (04:56:35 PM) dobey: jblount: no idea. your files are syncing really fast?
[18:08] <kenvandine> hehe
[18:09] <sladen> yank the network cable out;  does it still spin fast?
[18:10] <BUGabundo> mine is slow, while connecting
[18:11] <BUGabundo> let me put a 1000MiB file on a folder shared with ~100 users
[18:11] <BUGabundo> and see how fast that goes
[18:11] <BUGabundo> uploading at 50KiB/s
[18:11] <BUGabundo> icon rotation looks ok
[18:20] <dobey> kenvandine: i think you're crazy :)
[18:20] <kenvandine> whew... good... not a bug then :)
[18:22] <jdobrien> BUGabundo: u1 go boom yet?
[18:24] <BUGabundo> not yet
[18:24] <BUGabundo> still uploading
[18:24] <BUGabundo> testing that theory that doing the sync to several user would create a black hole
[18:25] <BUGabundo> oh wait... that's not U1... damn wrong channel
[18:25] <BUGabundo> never the less I'll let eat my small 3G bw and give you guys a real world test case
[18:26] <jdobrien> BUGabundo: u1 = Ubuntu One
[18:26] <BUGabundo> yep
[18:27] <BUGabundo> dobey: ever saw the file I left on my U1 just for you ?
[18:27] <dobey> uh, no
[18:27] <BUGabundo> ohh
[18:30] <dobey> but you haven't shared anything with me, and i don't generally keep ubuntuone running, because i am too busy stopping/starting/resetting it so i can debug and test stuff
[18:31] <BUGabundo> dobey: ehe I though you would go messing the server HD
[18:31] <BUGabundo> :)))
[18:31]  * BUGabundo raises privacy concern
[18:31] <dobey> i don't have access to the server
[18:32] <kenvandine> bug 385638
[18:32] <BUGabundo> ahahahaha
[18:32] <kenvandine> dobey: as if you didn't have enough to do
[18:32] <BUGabundo> oh its *not* a feature
[18:33] <BUGabundo> LOL
[18:33] <dobey> no, it's a bug
[18:33] <dobey> but definitely not critical
[18:35] <statik> hi jussi01, i haven't met you before. are you part of the ubuntu IRC operator council team ?
[18:39] <Chipaca> dobey: it would be awesome if the rate depended on something :)
[18:39] <dobey> Chipaca: it does
[18:39] <jussi01> statik: yes, I am
[18:39] <jussi01> statik: and nice to meet you :D
[18:39] <dobey> Chipaca: it depends on the rate at which the timeout function is called
[18:40] <Chipaca> dobey: I mean, on something like upload rate, or number of state transitions per second, or body odour, or something like that
[18:40]  * kenvandine would rather it just have an emblem to show activity
[18:40] <dobey> Chipaca: oddly enough, the timeout function has a check, so this shouldn't ever happen
[18:40] <statik> jussi01: great! thanks for hanging out in here
[18:40] <Chipaca> kenvandine: or that, yes; the applet wakes up the cpu a lot
[18:41] <jussi01> statik: no probs, Im an ubuntu one user also :D
[18:41] <dobey> kenvandine: if it was a staic image, how would you know if it was active, or locked up?
[18:41] <BUGabundo> kenvandine: I would like to know how much upload is done/left
[18:41] <kenvandine> BUGabundo: that could be in a tooltip
[18:41] <BUGabundo> welcome jussi01
[18:41] <statik> don't forget the applet is going away (at least in the default config)
[18:41] <Chipaca> dobey: clicking on it should open a status dialog with upload rate, content of the queues, things like that
[18:41] <kenvandine> dobey: the spinning doesn't tell me if it is hug
[18:41] <BUGabundo> kenvandine: mine just says: Synchroninzing
[18:41] <kenvandine> statik: thank you!
[18:41] <dobey> Chipaca: the applet is only spinning when the cpu is already active anyway
[18:42] <Chipaca> dobey: nope, the spinning can be happening with the cpu in a low power state, pushing stuff over the network
[18:42] <Chipaca> dobey: I seen it! :)
[18:42] <BUGabundo> dobey: how about 1 click for details, double click for Nautilus ?
[18:43] <dobey> Chipaca: if your wireless card is that low power, we better start selling those instead
[18:43] <dobey> BUGabundo: the applet is going away, anyway
[18:44] <BUGabundo> oh
[18:44] <BUGabundo> more power to OSD
[18:44] <BUGabundo> lol
[18:44] <BUGabundo> after all that war over UM
[18:44] <BUGabundo> eheh
[18:45] <dobey> eh
[18:47] <jussi01> !cloak | statik
[18:51] <BUGabundo> ahah
[19:07] <loedu> hi
[19:23] <kenvandine> hi loedu
[19:24] <loedu> hi, kenvandine
[19:24] <loedu> i also got the same issue about the icon spinning faster-slower-faster :-)
[19:25] <BUGabundo> ahaha
[19:25] <BUGabundo> its for all of those of us who are screnofenic
[19:26] <loedu> :-)
[19:26] <BUGabundo> you guys ever used gspot ?
[19:27] <BUGabundo> it was/is a codec info app
[19:27] <loedu> nope, not me
[19:27] <BUGabundo> and one of the last versions had a colourful rotating icon
[19:27] <BUGabundo> and the Dev said that about the icon, and had an option for turning it of
[19:27] <BUGabundo> LOLOL
[22:36] <zeenix> hi
[22:36] <zeenix> Ng: seems i wasn't talking to the wrong guy after all :)
[22:37] <Ng> heh
[22:37] <Ng> I am everywhere!
[22:37] <zeenix> you work on ubuntu one?
[22:37] <Ng> 'fraid not, I'm a humble sysadmin ;)
[22:37] <Ng> but there are folk here who do
[22:37] <dobey> heh
[22:37] <Ng> like dobey!
[22:38] <dobey> i am heading out though. i have to go :)
[22:38] <dobey> but i'll look at the scrollback later
[22:38] <zeenix> Ng: who here is doing most of the design and coding?
[22:38] <BUGabundo> Ng: so am I
[22:38] <BUGabundo> funny we never crossed before
[22:39] <__lucio__> zeenix: no one is doing most of anything. we are too many now :)
[22:40] <Ng> zeenix: as __lucio__ says there's quite a few people now - I guess the right answer would depend if you mean the web UI, the gnome integration, or the server backend
[22:40] <zeenix> the later two i guess
[22:41] <zeenix> what i am interested is in possible interaction with UPnP, especially MediaServer
[22:41] <__lucio__> zeenix: what kind of integration?
[22:42] <Ng> I think dobey, MenTaLguY and rodrigo_ are doing the gnome end of things
[22:43] <rodrigo_> zeenix: upnp in what way?
[22:44] <Ng> hmm, could be interesting to access a upnp mediaserver remotely since they often seem to do transcoding (so could squeeze video up my crappy adsl ;)
[22:44] <zeenix> tbh, i don't have antying specific in mind
[22:45] <zeenix> Ng: yeah, something along those lines came to my mind
[22:45] <zeenix> or it could be the other way around too
[22:46] <zeenix> i-e being able to browse remote contents on my PS3
[22:47] <Ng> I wonder what the copyright-istas would have to say about a third party tunnelling your media
[22:47] <Ng> it doesn't seem significantly different to a slingbox type idea though
[22:50] <Ng> (which I mean in a "slingbox is ace and popular and hasn't been sued that I know of" kinda of way :)
[23:38] <BUGabundo> ola n0k1
[23:39] <n0k1> ola BUGabundo