| ZachD | hai | 00:44 |
|---|---|---|
| ZachD | how everyone? | 00:44 |
| ZachD | so what is xubuntu? | 00:45 |
| sml1226 | trying to compile but get error, No package 'gtk+-2.0' found , how do I get the package | 04:07 |
| sml1226 | knome you may have helped me with this before | 04:08 |
| sml1226 | anybody know how to get gtk+-2.0 package? odd name or what? | 04:11 |
| TheSheep | you nee libgtk-something-dev | 04:12 |
| TheSheep | you need* | 04:12 |
| TheSheep | search with synaptic | 04:12 |
| sml1226 | thanks | 04:12 |
| TheSheep | not sure what 'something' is | 04:12 |
| TheSheep | libgtk2.0-dev | 04:13 |
| TheSheep | here it is | 04:13 |
| sml1226 | ok great | 04:17 |
| sml1226 | now missing libwnck-1.0 any clue of package name for apt-get? | 04:39 |
| sml1226 | TheSheep know this one? libwnck-1.0 | 04:46 |
| TheSheep | just search for it in synaptic | 04:46 |
| TheSheep | and install the -dev package of it | 04:46 |
| sml1226 | well thanks again see if its there (SLOWLY) | 04:48 |
| sml1226 | how do I make a .deb? | 05:18 |
| sml1226 | TheSheep how does searching synaptic work? type in the missing package name and look at results? if so I get no results | 05:24 |
| sml1226 | oops missing package name, i meant from error message | 05:25 |
| TheSheep | sml1226: you type the search terms in the search dialog | 05:25 |
| TheSheep | sml1226: not in the quicksearch | 05:26 |
| sml1226 | searching for gtk+-2.0 would have got the libgtk2/0-dev result? | 05:27 |
| sml1226 | well if thats my prob then thanks, I'll try one more time then | 05:27 |
| raevol | hey all, i have a bunch of libraries that are showing up in synaptic as being "local or obsolete" | 05:43 |
| raevol | i have no idea what they are, they have been there since a clean install of 9.04 | 05:43 |
| raevol | is it safe to remove them? | 05:43 |
| Ramla | is thunar still as stable as a drunken madman on a pogostick in 9.04 or should i consider switching to another file manager instead? | 06:46 |
| kuhzoo | greetings | 06:52 |
| kuhzoo | how do I stop my computer (latest xubuntu with default sound configuration) from playing whatever the mic picks up | 06:57 |
| kuhzoo | ? | 06:57 |
| Ramla | i'd launch alsamixer in a terminal and mute the mic channel | 07:00 |
| kuhzoo | that makes it really hard to play around with recording programs like audacity | 07:03 |
| kuhzoo | putting on headphones would get rid of the symptom, but I'd rather not need to grab head phones every time I want to play with audacity | 07:04 |
| Ramla | i would suppose recording has different settings than playback, however i haven't ever recorded anything in linux | 07:05 |
| ringo999 | i just installed the latest xubuntu release. "listen" music player seems to miss some gstreamer plugins (i.e. for mp3)? | 11:22 |
| ringo999 | also wondering about german keyboard settings on a Macbook. I think I tried every possible combination... | 11:23 |
| cody-somerville | Install the xubuntu-restricted-extras package | 11:25 |
| ringo999 | ok | 11:26 |
| SiDi | ringo999, what is you yesterday who asked about macbook german keyboard ? | 11:33 |
| SiDi | Applications -> Settings -> Keyboard -> Layout tab | 11:33 |
| SiDi | Keyboard model -> MacBook | 11:33 |
| SiDi | Keyboard layout -> german | 11:33 |
| ringo999 | SiDi: yes, i think i already tried that setting but I will do it again | 11:35 |
| ringo999 | SiDi: i need to restart xserver for the settings to take effect? how do i do that from terminal? | 11:36 |
| SiDi | you need to restart the session, yes | 11:47 |
| ringo999_ | SiDi: still no luck :-( | 11:59 |
| SiDi | ringo999_, i dont know then, sorry | 12:03 |
| ringo999_ | SiDi: ok | 12:08 |
| ricemark20 | anyone use gwibber? | 12:09 |
| ricemark20 | hello.. what is error 401 in gwibber? | 12:16 |
| SiDi | http://www.checkupdown.com/status/E401.html | 12:17 |
| SiDi | ricemark20, probably wrong id/password | 12:17 |
| ricemark20 | tried that | 12:17 |
| ricemark20 | ..thanks | 12:17 |
| ricemark20 | apparently a bug with gwibber and twitter in the new version: 1.0.2 https://bugs.launchpad.net/gwibber/+bug/360468 | 12:23 |
| ricemark20 | where can i get the tarball for gwibber 1.0.1 | 12:33 |
| SiDi | !info gwibber jaunty | 12:40 |
| ubottu | gwibber (source: gwibber): Open source microblogging client for GNOME. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8-0ubuntu5 (jaunty), package size 185 kB, installed size 1360 kB | 12:40 |
| SiDi | !info gwibber karmic | 12:41 |
| ubottu | gwibber (source: gwibber): Open source microblogging client for GNOME. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.2~bzr263-0ubuntu1 (karmic), package size 201 kB, installed size 1532 kB | 12:41 |
| SiDi | Try the web, or search gwibber on launchpad | 12:42 |
| ricemark20 | tried the web and launchpad | 12:45 |
| cody-somerville | launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gwibber | 12:45 |
| SiDi | Where did you get 1.0.2 ? | 12:48 |
| ricemark20 | apt-get installed it | 12:48 |
| ablomen | hey, is there a way to stop resolv.conf recreate itself (wrong) every time i boot (9.04 updated from beta updated from 8.10)? it always overwrites my own resolv.conf with the dns set to the ip of my router, not the dns server i actually use | 12:48 |
| SiDi | ricemark20, err, karmic doesnt even have 1.0.0 | 12:49 |
| SiDi | ablomen, right click the network applet | 12:50 |
| SiDi | Edit connections -> chose the connection which you want to use with a custom DNS server | 12:50 |
| SiDi | Click on 'edit', go to the last tab, and replace the "DHCP" method by "DHCP - addresses only" | 12:50 |
| SiDi | and then put your custom DNS ip on the DNS text field ;) | 12:51 |
| ricemark20 | you are right, i was checking launchpad and they said there was a 1.0.2 | 12:51 |
| ricemark20 | my bad | 12:51 |
| ablomen | SiDi, ah cool thanks ill try that when i get home, yet another thing network manager breaks \o/ | 12:51 |
| SiDi | ricemark20, the only solution if there is no 1.0.1 package would be to grab the source from launchpad and revert it to the revision before the bad code was included | 12:51 |
| SiDi | and i dont know how to do it, ricemark20 :) | 12:52 |
| cody-somerville | Just download the older version deb | 12:52 |
| cody-somerville | and install it | 12:52 |
| SiDi | ablomen, it doesnt break them :) it automates them :) | 12:52 |
| ricemark20 | 0.7? | 12:52 |
| ablomen | hmm well its the 3rd time it "automates" something in the wrong way, ah well, thanks for the fix :) | 12:53 |
| Pres-Gas | Hey all | 12:53 |
| SiDi | ricemark20, remove the one you installed and use the normal one from jaunty's repo | 12:53 |
| ricemark20 | i did | 12:54 |
| ricemark20 | i installed from the terminal, and I run jaunty | 12:55 |
| SiDi | hi Pres-Gas | 12:55 |
| ringo999 | still stuck with getting my german macbook keyboard to work. can't really work without a functioning keyboard.. | 14:56 |
| ringo999 | hat i'm wondering is, where does xubuntu store the keyboard mapping? | 15:13 |
| ringo999 | on debian i used to configure the settings in xorg.conf | 15:13 |
| firsm | Can you guys recommend ubuntu lpia over traditional xubuntu from a stability-wise point of view? | 16:22 |
| cody-somerville | lpia is useless | 16:25 |
| firsm | as I understand it, it just uses different compiler flags, but not all packages have been compiled as lpia "arch", so you're forced to to --force-all all the time | 16:27 |
| cody-somerville | firsm, no, the entire archive has been compiled with LPIA | 16:33 |
| cody-somerville | firsm, but LPIA provides no performance benefit | 16:33 |
| cody-somerville | Intel was planning on doing some stuff but it never materialized, atleast not in gcc | 16:33 |
| firsm | it's supposed to provide lower power consumption | 16:33 |
| cody-somerville | but it doesn't | 16:33 |
| firsm | mh, ok | 16:34 |
| firsm | I guess I'll just go with xubuntu i386 then | 16:34 |
| firsm | well, the alternate iso image doesn't seem to work on my usb stick as it won't continue without a cd-rom drive | 16:37 |
| firsm | well, now I tried usb-creator, when I boot the usb stick now the install says "failed to copy file from cd-rom" while loading installer components, any idea? | 17:06 |
| cody-somerville | firsm, for the alternative install, you need to append 'cdrom-detect/try-usb=true' to the boot opts | 17:50 |
| firsm | cody-somerville: ah, thanks | 17:50 |
| Zimm3r | Any way I speed up ubuntu when it is installing updates | 17:54 |
| Zimm3r | Anyone in?? | 18:02 |
| TheSheep | use a local mirror | 18:24 |
| Zimm3r | I mean my system | 18:24 |
| TheSheep | any way there was, it has been done already by default | 18:25 |
| TheSheep | closing firefox might help if you're upgrading gtk-related packages | 18:26 |
| TheSheep | it has a bug that makes it take a lot of cpu on any change to gtk | 18:27 |
| Zimm3r | ya I did and it help somewhat :) | 18:27 |
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| firsm | Does anybody know how to disable ssh-agent? Uncommenting use-ssh-agent in /etc/X11/Xsession.options does not work | 19:39 |
| mikubuntu | hey guys. i just got this toshiba p35 s605 harman kardon edition laptop... sposd to have great (harman kardon) sound, but i can't get any volume out of it, all the sliders are set to high, but i still dont get volume. any ideas? | 20:23 |
| ron_o | my harddrive seek times sometimes are extraordinarily long. Any suggestions on why this might be? | 21:15 |
| ron_o | to explain further when I open up a directory with many items, like my browser cache, it might take a minute or more before I can do anything with my computer. In the mean time I can hear my HD activitiy like it's going and going and going. | 21:20 |
| ron_o | this is even after a restart. | 21:20 |
| TheSheep | ron_o: check for suspicious logs in dmesg | 21:23 |
| TheSheep | !sound | mikubuntu | 21:24 |
| ubottu | mikubuntu: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3 | 21:24 |
| ron_o | my dmesg is filled with this: Dropped INPUT packet: IN=eth1 OUT= MAC= [ .......... ]. I have some problems with my internet connection that I can't figure out. So dmesg is about useless. | 21:26 |
| TheSheep | ron_o: well, skip those, look for any disk messages | 21:26 |
| ron_o | I can't skip those. Dmesg is full of those and those alone. :( | 21:27 |
| TheSheep | so? | 21:27 |
| TheSheep | just look at the others | 21:28 |
| TheSheep | it's not like they were removed | 21:28 |
| ron_o | I'll keep looking but right now every single one starts with "Dropped ..... " | 21:30 |
| TheSheep | dmesg | grep -v "^Dropped" | less | 21:36 |
| unitxt | TheSheep: What's an example of a suspicious log? I am just curious, that's all. Or should I ask something like this in ##security instead? | 22:08 |
| TheSheep | unitxt: in this case you are looking for io errors | 22:09 |
| TheSheep | unitxt: something like 'error reading from device xxx block yyy | 22:09 |
| kill3r | can someone help me | 22:15 |
| kill3r | i want to change the theme of xubuntu on my laptop that is dual booted with windows vista and i want to use the live free or die hard theme can anyone please help me | 22:15 |
| charlie-tca | !theme | kill3r | 22:16 |
| ubottu | kill3r: Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy | 22:16 |
| unitxt | TheSheep: Hmm...Ok. I see. Then something like 'dmesg | grep "error" could *possibly* turn up something suspicious. | 22:16 |
| kill3r | i have the theme already downloaded i just need help finding where to install it | 22:16 |
| kill3r | http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=66714&forumpage=2\ | 22:17 |
| charlie-tca | put it in ~/.themes | 22:17 |
| kill3r | witch is where | 22:17 |
| TheSheep | in ~ | 22:17 |
| unitxt | btw, thanks again. | 22:17 |
| TheSheep | in your home directory | 22:17 |
| charlie-tca | You create it in your /home/USER directory | 22:17 |
| kill3r | so | 22:17 |
| TheSheep | make sure to enable showing hidden files in 'view' | 22:17 |
| kill3r | /home/kill3r/.themes | 22:17 |
| charlie-tca | yes | 22:17 |
| kill3r | so i have to make the .themes | 22:18 |
| charlie-tca | yes | 22:18 |
| charlie-tca | mkdir /home/kill3r/.themes | 22:18 |
| kill3r | ok im in the folder | 22:20 |
| kill3r | now what? | 22:20 |
| kill3r | and btw im use to backtrack 3 | 22:20 |
| TheSheep | unpack your downloaded theme there | 22:20 |
| kill3r | there is a icons,wallpaper and a emerald window border in the folder | 22:21 |
| TheSheep | these will have to go somewhere else | 22:22 |
| TheSheep | well, emerald theme won't work, unless you are using compiz with emerald. xfce uses its own window border themes | 22:22 |
| TheSheep | icons you put in ~/.icons | 22:22 |
| kill3r | kk | 22:23 |
| TheSheep | wallpaper goes enywhere you want | 22:23 |
| kill3r | i have the wallpaper on already | 22:23 |
| kill3r | i just need the icons and the emerald winder boder | 22:23 |
| TheSheep | xfce doesn't do emerald themes, only emerald does | 22:24 |
| kill3r | so how do i get the emerald theme 2 work? | 22:24 |
| kill3r | and in the icon folder i have gTangish2.0a2.tar.bz2 | 22:24 |
| kill3r | http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=66714&forumpage=2 | 22:25 |
| kill3r | is the link to the theme | 22:25 |
| TheSheep | the emerald theme will only work with emerald | 22:26 |
| kill3r | so what is emerald?? | 22:26 |
| TheSheep | can't get it to work with xfce | 22:26 |
| TheSheep | !info emerald | 22:26 |
| ubottu | emerald (source: emerald): Decorator for compiz-fusion. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.7.2-0ubuntu2 (jaunty), package size 255 kB, installed size 1380 kB | 22:26 |
| kill3r | so how do i get it | 22:26 |
| kill3r | ? | 22:26 |
| kill3r | do i need to install ubuntu | 22:27 |
| TheSheep | !compiz | 22:27 |
| ubottu | Compiz (compositing window manager), for a howto see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager and more help #compiz | 22:27 |
| kill3r | so do i need to install ubuntu or can i do it with xubuntu??? | 22:27 |
| kill3r | anyone?? | 22:28 |
| TheSheep | you can do it with xubuntu that has it's xfce window manager replaced with compiz | 22:29 |
| TheSheep | its | 22:29 |
| kill3r | how will i do that? | 22:29 |
| TheSheep | see 4 lines above | 22:29 |
| kill3r | kk | 22:30 |
| kill3r | firefox just locked up | 22:31 |
| kill3r_ | what if i use this themem | 22:34 |
| kill3r_ | http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager | 22:34 |
| kill3r_ | Die Hard 4.0 GTK theme | 22:34 |
| kill3r_ | 0.2 | 22:34 |
| kill3r_ | could i use that one | 22:34 |
| kill3r_ | that is gtk 2.0 theme/style | 22:34 |
| kill3r_ | ??? | 22:35 |
| kill3r_ | anyone? | 22:35 |
| kill3r_ | !gtk | 22:36 |
| ubottu | GTK is the !GIMP toolkit, which forms the base of !GNOME and is used by many applications to provide a !GUI | 22:36 |
| kill3r_ | !GIMP | 22:36 |
| ubottu | gimp is an advanced image manipulation application for Ubuntu. See http://www.gimp.org for tutorials and more information. | 22:36 |
| charlie-tca | kill3r: it should work | 22:36 |
| charlie-tca | There is no guarantee the entire theme will work in Xfce, thouhg | 22:37 |
| kill3r_ | so i should use ubuntu??? | 22:37 |
| charlie-tca | If the theme is that important to you, probably | 22:38 |
| kill3r_ | ok then i will go install unbuntu then | 22:38 |
| PDG1 | hello? | 23:08 |
| charlie-tca | !hi | PDG1 | 23:09 |
| ubottu | PDG1: Hi! Welcome to #xubuntu! | 23:09 |
| PDG1 | so... I've got a really old laptop, I've been using puppy on it for a while. but I realized I really don't like it | 23:09 |
| charlie-tca | how much memory? | 23:10 |
| PDG1 | I think it's 128 | 23:10 |
| PDG1 | I can't remember | 23:10 |
| PDG1 | I originally thought 192... but Xubuntu wouldn't install | 23:10 |
| charlie-tca | less than 256mb is going to run slow, and you will not be able to open more than 1 app at a time | 23:10 |
| PDG1 | it was running win98 when i got it | 23:10 |
| charlie-tca | Use the alternate cd | 23:10 |
| PDG1 | so I have the alternate CD... | 23:11 |
| charlie-tca | Live cd will take about 5 hours or more | 23:11 |
| charlie-tca | what version? | 23:11 |
| PDG1 | it did | 23:11 |
| PDG1 | lol | 23:11 |
| PDG1 | I just burnt it a month ago | 23:11 |
| PDG1 | or maybe less | 23:11 |
| PDG1 | maybe it was end of may | 23:11 |
| charlie-tca | Is it giving any errors? | 23:12 |
| charlie-tca | Does the cd pass md5sum and check disk for errors ? | 23:12 |
| PDG1 | a couple... I can't remember exactly what errors | 23:12 |
| PDG1 | I'm checking the disk right now | 23:12 |
| PDG1 | but I heard there were a few things i could do to make it a little less mem intensive | 23:13 |
| PDG1 | like removing the auto update or something | 23:13 |
| charlie-tca | yup | 23:13 |
| charlie-tca | but not until it is installed | 23:13 |
| PDG1 | does that mean i have to remaster? or is there a way to set that before the install? | 23:14 |
| PDG1 | darn | 23:14 |
| charlie-tca | No, just means removing update notifier option in software sources | 23:14 |
| PDG1 | test is 95 % done... I'll see waht errors it gives me when i try to boot it | 23:14 |
| PDG1 | CD is valid | 23:15 |
| PDG1 | during the boot | 23:16 |
| charlie-tca | after installation, go to Synaptic Package Manager, settings, repositories, Updates tab and unchceck "Check for Updates" | 23:17 |
| PDG1 | is there any way i can see what's happening? like.. comand line | 23:17 |
| charlie-tca | There is a command line install option, one the f-keys will give it to you | 23:17 |
| charlie-tca | Mostly, it is waiting on video to draw the screen so you can see it | 23:18 |
| PDG1 | okay... I'll just do a fresh install | 23:18 |
| charlie-tca | When I take memory down to 64mb and video to 4mb, it takes extremely long to draw each screen. I get a black screen while waiting | 23:19 |
| PDG1 | I'm seeing a lot of lines that say package has zero elements when i first boot up | 23:19 |
| PDG1 | know what that means? | 23:20 |
| bruce | fdsasdf | 23:20 |
| charlie-tca | no, it might mean the cd is bad, even if it passes the tests | 23:20 |
| PDG1 | hmmm | 23:20 |
| PDG1 | like... the CD itself... not the burn? | 23:20 |
| charlie-tca | I did have one the entire drive was bad, but I would try another burn first | 23:21 |
| charlie-tca | I could do all the installs execpt one on that bad drive, and they worked. That was like 15 installs, and one failed in the middle. The cd drive was bad | 23:21 |
| PDG1 | crap... | 23:22 |
| PDG1 | I guess i could try from USB | 23:22 |
| charlie-tca | I would burn another cd-r and try that, though | 23:22 |
| PDG1 | good idea | 23:23 |
| bruce_ | what is xfce's option for a program similar to digikam ? | 23:24 |
| mikubuntu | TheSheep: sorry i got disconnected ... about my sound, yes, i have the sound prefs set to alsa, but still get very low volume. if you look at http://www.mobilewhack.com/reviews/toshiba_satellite_p35-s605_noteboook.html in the third paragraph it describes what should be great sound capabilities, but i'm not getting it ... | 23:26 |
| PDG1 | I'm also trying to install again | 23:29 |
| PDG1 | otherwise... if Xubuntu is really not going to work | 23:31 |
| PDG1 | any suggestions for an Os that could replace windows 98 on older laptops? | 23:31 |
| PDG1 | that isn't puppy or DSL? | 23:32 |
| ron_o | try fluxbuntu PDG1 | 23:36 |
| ron_o | or just install fluxbox on Xubuntu | 23:36 |
| PDG1 | hmm | 23:37 |
| ron_o | but fluxbuntu might have a smaller footprint with better support for older systems than xubuntu with fluxbox installed. | 23:37 |
| ron_o | DSL uses fluxbox but isn't supported as well as *buntu | 23:37 |
| PDG1 | so the difference between fluxubuntu and xubuntu with fluxbox is? | 23:37 |
| ron_o | fluxbuntu is made with a smaller footprint all together from the get go. | 23:38 |
| PDG1 | ohh | 23:38 |
| PDG1 | you said that | 23:38 |
| PDG1 | sorry | 23:38 |
| ron_o | with fluxbox you may have to manipulate it in order to stop some scripts from starting ... etc.. | 23:38 |
| PDG1 | so if there was like... 100 MB of available mem... would that work well? | 23:39 |
| PDG1 | or does it need a bit more oomf | 23:39 |
| ron_o | hmmm, that's kind of, well, small. :) | 23:39 |
| PDG1 | yeah... I think I've got 128 | 23:39 |
| PDG1 | I can't remember what it said | 23:39 |
| ron_o | it would as long as you didn't run any heavy apps like firefox or any GUI browser. | 23:39 |
| ron_o | that's where you'll run into problems, see? | 23:39 |
| PDG1 | yeah | 23:39 |
| PDG1 | it was running win98 well | 23:40 |
| PDG1 | and puppy linux ran pretty good | 23:40 |
| ron_o | puppy is great but it has its own fricking .pup binary apps.. | 23:40 |
| PDG1 | that's what kind of drove me | 23:40 |
| ron_o | you won't have access to all those great apps from Debian. | 23:40 |
| PDG1 | supposedly there's a way to install debian apps | 23:41 |
| PDG1 | but I like how seemless buntu has been | 23:41 |
| ron_o | I'd stick with fluxbuntu and see how it goes, but with that little RAM you're going to run into trouble with any heavy GUI apps. | 23:41 |
| PDG1 | yup... gedit and calculator for me | 23:42 |
| PDG1 | lol | 23:42 |
| ron_o | you see, you *can* run linux on an old system, but it's not really advisable except for specific use, like a firewall or something or for those folks who don't mine the Terminal. | 23:42 |
| ron_o | yah, you're going to run into trouble. | 23:42 |
| PDG1 | yeah... it's not going to be my power house | 23:42 |
| ron_o | I ran a 1.6Ghz with 350+RAM and it did just fine with fluxbox on xubuntu. | 23:43 |
| ron_o | but what's your CPU speed? | 23:43 |
| PDG1 | it's a P3... I think coppermine | 23:43 |
| ron_o | so really slow. Wow.. | 23:43 |
| ron_o | less than 500MHz I am sure. | 23:43 |
| PDG1 | it says... designed for Win2000 pro or 98 | 23:44 |
| ron_o | you can get by with it, but you better pick your apps well. | 23:44 |
| PDG1 | yeah.... | 23:44 |
| ron_o | I used Opera without any java/javascript/plugins running and it ran decently. | 23:45 |
| PDG1 | I mean... I really would use puppy or DSL | 23:45 |
| PDG1 | opera's slick | 23:45 |
| PDG1 | I didn't know just how cool till I got a BB storm from work to demo | 23:45 |
| PDG1 | I put Opera mini on it | 23:45 |
| ron_o | DSL is debian based. But I'd just find out what apps DSL uses and go with Fluxbuntu and copy them. | 23:45 |
| PDG1 | the web goes like stink | 23:45 |
| ron_o | yah.. | 23:46 |
| ron_o | never used Opera mini. | 23:46 |
| PDG1 | it's good... the storm is a bit of a pain in the ass | 23:46 |
| PDG1 | but opera mini is good | 23:46 |
| ron_o | Opera is great, yes, but I have found on this system, which is extremely fast dualcore, opera keeps sucking a ton of memory when I leave it open with a lot of tabs open and plugins running. | 23:47 |
| PDG1 | weird | 23:48 |
| ron_o | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LowMemorySystems | 23:50 |
| ron_o | yah, it's weird. I can have like 1.5GB or memory coming mostly from Opera... maybe 4/5 from Opera. | 23:50 |
| ron_o | I might give that low memory system a try on Virtualbox to see how it goes. The thing is, if it were as easy as that page makes it seem, then all the other *buntus wouldn't be needed. | 23:53 |
| ron_o | use it as a learning experience. | 23:53 |
| PDG1 | thanks | 23:55 |
| PDG1 | I'll try that | 23:55 |
| ron_o | PDG1, there's also a way, that I've not tried yet, of creating your very own LiveCD without handrolling it yourself. Check out the web for more info. | 23:56 |
| ron_o | you could create something that runs totally in RAM and save all your data to maybe a USB drive or your Hard drive. | 23:56 |
| ron_o | with linux, it's endless. Have fun. :) | 23:56 |
| PDG1 | right now I'm thinking I might be able to up the swap file... | 23:57 |
| ron_o | like have your own eeepc. | 23:57 |
| PDG1 | lol...except... it's friggin huge | 23:57 |
| ron_o | you can always do that. That ain't the problem. The problem is the swap file is so damn slow. | 23:57 |
| PDG1 | it's a dell inspiron 5000 | 23:57 |
| ron_o | yah. well. I didn't say for your desktop. :) | 23:58 |
| PDG1 | yeah... i guess you're right... it needs to be able to write to the swap fast enough to make it worthwihile | 23:58 |
| ron_o | in your case, having a separate harddrive for such a slow computer would be advisable. | 23:59 |
| ron_o | *for your swap | 23:59 |
| ron_o | I might try that myself. I've only got like 2 dozen hard drives hanging around. | 23:59 |
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