[00:44] hai [00:44] how everyone? [00:45] so what is xubuntu? [04:07] trying to compile but get error, No package 'gtk+-2.0' found , how do I get the package [04:08] knome you may have helped me with this before [04:11] anybody know how to get gtk+-2.0 package? odd name or what? [04:12] you nee libgtk-something-dev [04:12] you need* [04:12] search with synaptic [04:12] thanks [04:12] not sure what 'something' is [04:13] libgtk2.0-dev [04:13] here it is [04:17] ok great [04:39] now missing libwnck-1.0 any clue of package name for apt-get? [04:46] TheSheep know this one? libwnck-1.0 [04:46] just search for it in synaptic [04:46] and install the -dev package of it [04:48] well thanks again see if its there (SLOWLY) [05:18] how do I make a .deb? [05:24] TheSheep how does searching synaptic work? type in the missing package name and look at results? if so I get no results [05:25] oops missing package name, i meant from error message [05:25] sml1226: you type the search terms in the search dialog [05:26] sml1226: not in the quicksearch [05:27] searching for gtk+-2.0 would have got the libgtk2/0-dev result? [05:27] well if thats my prob then thanks, I'll try one more time then [05:43] hey all, i have a bunch of libraries that are showing up in synaptic as being "local or obsolete" [05:43] i have no idea what they are, they have been there since a clean install of 9.04 [05:43] is it safe to remove them? [06:46] is thunar still as stable as a drunken madman on a pogostick in 9.04 or should i consider switching to another file manager instead? [06:52] greetings [06:57] how do I stop my computer (latest xubuntu with default sound configuration) from playing whatever the mic picks up [06:57] ? [07:00] i'd launch alsamixer in a terminal and mute the mic channel [07:03] that makes it really hard to play around with recording programs like audacity [07:04] putting on headphones would get rid of the symptom, but I'd rather not need to grab head phones every time I want to play with audacity [07:05] i would suppose recording has different settings than playback, however i haven't ever recorded anything in linux [11:22] i just installed the latest xubuntu release. "listen" music player seems to miss some gstreamer plugins (i.e. for mp3)? [11:23] also wondering about german keyboard settings on a Macbook. I think I tried every possible combination... [11:25] Install the xubuntu-restricted-extras package [11:26] ok [11:33] ringo999, what is you yesterday who asked about macbook german keyboard ? [11:33] Applications -> Settings -> Keyboard -> Layout tab [11:33] Keyboard model -> MacBook [11:33] Keyboard layout -> german [11:35] SiDi: yes, i think i already tried that setting but I will do it again [11:36] SiDi: i need to restart xserver for the settings to take effect? how do i do that from terminal? [11:47] you need to restart the session, yes [11:59] SiDi: still no luck :-( [12:03] ringo999_, i dont know then, sorry [12:08] SiDi: ok [12:09] anyone use gwibber? [12:16] hello.. what is error 401 in gwibber? [12:17] http://www.checkupdown.com/status/E401.html [12:17] ricemark20, probably wrong id/password [12:17] tried that [12:17] ..thanks [12:23] apparently a bug with gwibber and twitter in the new version: 1.0.2 https://bugs.launchpad.net/gwibber/+bug/360468 [12:33] where can i get the tarball for gwibber 1.0.1 [12:40] !info gwibber jaunty [12:40] gwibber (source: gwibber): Open source microblogging client for GNOME. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8-0ubuntu5 (jaunty), package size 185 kB, installed size 1360 kB [12:41] !info gwibber karmic [12:41] gwibber (source: gwibber): Open source microblogging client for GNOME. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.2~bzr263-0ubuntu1 (karmic), package size 201 kB, installed size 1532 kB [12:42] Try the web, or search gwibber on launchpad [12:45] tried the web and launchpad [12:45] launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gwibber [12:48] Where did you get 1.0.2 ? [12:48] apt-get installed it [12:48] hey, is there a way to stop resolv.conf recreate itself (wrong) every time i boot (9.04 updated from beta updated from 8.10)? it always overwrites my own resolv.conf with the dns set to the ip of my router, not the dns server i actually use [12:49] ricemark20, err, karmic doesnt even have 1.0.0 [12:50] ablomen, right click the network applet [12:50] Edit connections -> chose the connection which you want to use with a custom DNS server [12:50] Click on 'edit', go to the last tab, and replace the "DHCP" method by "DHCP - addresses only" [12:51] and then put your custom DNS ip on the DNS text field ;) [12:51] you are right, i was checking launchpad and they said there was a 1.0.2 [12:51] my bad [12:51] SiDi, ah cool thanks ill try that when i get home, yet another thing network manager breaks \o/ [12:51] ricemark20, the only solution if there is no 1.0.1 package would be to grab the source from launchpad and revert it to the revision before the bad code was included [12:52] and i dont know how to do it, ricemark20 :) [12:52] Just download the older version deb [12:52] and install it [12:52] ablomen, it doesnt break them :) it automates them :) [12:52] 0.7? [12:53] hmm well its the 3rd time it "automates" something in the wrong way, ah well, thanks for the fix :) [12:53] Hey all [12:53] ricemark20, remove the one you installed and use the normal one from jaunty's repo [12:54] i did [12:55] i installed from the terminal, and I run jaunty [12:55] hi Pres-Gas [14:56] still stuck with getting my german macbook keyboard to work. can't really work without a functioning keyboard.. [15:13] hat i'm wondering is, where does xubuntu store the keyboard mapping? [15:13] on debian i used to configure the settings in xorg.conf [16:22] Can you guys recommend ubuntu lpia over traditional xubuntu from a stability-wise point of view? [16:25] lpia is useless [16:27] as I understand it, it just uses different compiler flags, but not all packages have been compiled as lpia "arch", so you're forced to to --force-all all the time [16:33] firsm, no, the entire archive has been compiled with LPIA [16:33] firsm, but LPIA provides no performance benefit [16:33] Intel was planning on doing some stuff but it never materialized, atleast not in gcc [16:33] it's supposed to provide lower power consumption [16:33] but it doesn't [16:34] mh, ok [16:34] I guess I'll just go with xubuntu i386 then [16:37] well, the alternate iso image doesn't seem to work on my usb stick as it won't continue without a cd-rom drive [17:06] well, now I tried usb-creator, when I boot the usb stick now the install says "failed to copy file from cd-rom" while loading installer components, any idea? [17:50] firsm, for the alternative install, you need to append 'cdrom-detect/try-usb=true' to the boot opts [17:50] cody-somerville: ah, thanks [17:54] Any way I speed up ubuntu when it is installing updates [18:02] Anyone in?? [18:24] use a local mirror [18:24] I mean my system [18:25] any way there was, it has been done already by default [18:26] closing firefox might help if you're upgrading gtk-related packages [18:27] it has a bug that makes it take a lot of cpu on any change to gtk [18:27] ya I did and it help somewhat :) === SiDi is now known as SiDi_ === SiDi_ is now known as SiDi`Laptop === SiDi`Laptop is now known as SiDi === p-tizzy is now known as ptizzy [19:39] Does anybody know how to disable ssh-agent? Uncommenting use-ssh-agent in /etc/X11/Xsession.options does not work [20:23] hey guys. i just got this toshiba p35 s605 harman kardon edition laptop... sposd to have great (harman kardon) sound, but i can't get any volume out of it, all the sliders are set to high, but i still dont get volume. any ideas? [21:15] my harddrive seek times sometimes are extraordinarily long. Any suggestions on why this might be? [21:20] to explain further when I open up a directory with many items, like my browser cache, it might take a minute or more before I can do anything with my computer. In the mean time I can hear my HD activitiy like it's going and going and going. [21:20] this is even after a restart. [21:23] ron_o: check for suspicious logs in dmesg [21:24] !sound | mikubuntu [21:24] mikubuntu: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3 [21:26] my dmesg is filled with this: Dropped INPUT packet: IN=eth1 OUT= MAC= [ .......... ]. I have some problems with my internet connection that I can't figure out. So dmesg is about useless. [21:26] ron_o: well, skip those, look for any disk messages [21:27] I can't skip those. Dmesg is full of those and those alone. :( [21:27] so? [21:28] just look at the others [21:28] it's not like they were removed [21:30] I'll keep looking but right now every single one starts with "Dropped ..... " [21:36] dmesg | grep -v "^Dropped" | less [22:08] TheSheep: What's an example of a suspicious log? I am just curious, that's all. Or should I ask something like this in ##security instead? [22:09] unitxt: in this case you are looking for io errors [22:09] unitxt: something like 'error reading from device xxx block yyy [22:15] can someone help me [22:15] i want to change the theme of xubuntu on my laptop that is dual booted with windows vista and i want to use the live free or die hard theme can anyone please help me [22:16] !theme | kill3r [22:16] kill3r: Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy [22:16] TheSheep: Hmm...Ok. I see. Then something like 'dmesg | grep "error" could *possibly* turn up something suspicious. [22:16] i have the theme already downloaded i just need help finding where to install it [22:17] http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=66714&forumpage=2\ [22:17] put it in ~/.themes [22:17] witch is where [22:17] in ~ [22:17] btw, thanks again. [22:17] in your home directory [22:17] You create it in your /home/USER directory [22:17] so [22:17] make sure to enable showing hidden files in 'view' [22:17] /home/kill3r/.themes [22:17] yes [22:18] so i have to make the .themes [22:18] yes [22:18] mkdir /home/kill3r/.themes [22:20] ok im in the folder [22:20] now what? [22:20] and btw im use to backtrack 3 [22:20] unpack your downloaded theme there [22:21] there is a icons,wallpaper and a emerald window border in the folder [22:22] these will have to go somewhere else [22:22] well, emerald theme won't work, unless you are using compiz with emerald. xfce uses its own window border themes [22:22] icons you put in ~/.icons [22:23] kk [22:23] wallpaper goes enywhere you want [22:23] i have the wallpaper on already [22:23] i just need the icons and the emerald winder boder [22:24] xfce doesn't do emerald themes, only emerald does [22:24] so how do i get the emerald theme 2 work? [22:24] and in the icon folder i have gTangish2.0a2.tar.bz2 [22:25] http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=66714&forumpage=2 [22:25] is the link to the theme [22:26] the emerald theme will only work with emerald [22:26] so what is emerald?? [22:26] can't get it to work with xfce [22:26] !info emerald [22:26] emerald (source: emerald): Decorator for compiz-fusion. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.7.2-0ubuntu2 (jaunty), package size 255 kB, installed size 1380 kB [22:26] so how do i get it [22:26] ? [22:27] do i need to install ubuntu [22:27] !compiz [22:27] Compiz (compositing window manager), for a howto see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager and more help #compiz [22:27] so do i need to install ubuntu or can i do it with xubuntu??? [22:28] anyone?? [22:29] you can do it with xubuntu that has it's xfce window manager replaced with compiz [22:29] its [22:29] how will i do that? [22:29] see 4 lines above [22:30] kk [22:31] firefox just locked up [22:34] what if i use this themem [22:34] http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager [22:34] Die Hard 4.0 GTK theme [22:34] 0.2 [22:34] could i use that one [22:34] that is gtk 2.0 theme/style [22:35] ??? [22:35] anyone? [22:36] !gtk [22:36] GTK is the !GIMP toolkit, which forms the base of !GNOME and is used by many applications to provide a !GUI [22:36] !GIMP [22:36] gimp is an advanced image manipulation application for Ubuntu. See http://www.gimp.org for tutorials and more information. [22:36] kill3r: it should work [22:37] There is no guarantee the entire theme will work in Xfce, thouhg [22:37] so i should use ubuntu??? [22:38] If the theme is that important to you, probably [22:38] ok then i will go install unbuntu then [23:08] hello? [23:09] !hi | PDG1 [23:09] PDG1: Hi! Welcome to #xubuntu! [23:09] so... I've got a really old laptop, I've been using puppy on it for a while. but I realized I really don't like it [23:10] how much memory? [23:10] I think it's 128 [23:10] I can't remember [23:10] I originally thought 192... but Xubuntu wouldn't install [23:10] less than 256mb is going to run slow, and you will not be able to open more than 1 app at a time [23:10] it was running win98 when i got it [23:10] Use the alternate cd [23:11] so I have the alternate CD... [23:11] Live cd will take about 5 hours or more [23:11] what version? [23:11] it did [23:11] lol [23:11] I just burnt it a month ago [23:11] or maybe less [23:11] maybe it was end of may [23:12] Is it giving any errors? [23:12] Does the cd pass md5sum and check disk for errors ? [23:12] a couple... I can't remember exactly what errors [23:12] I'm checking the disk right now [23:13] but I heard there were a few things i could do to make it a little less mem intensive [23:13] like removing the auto update or something [23:13] yup [23:13] but not until it is installed [23:14] does that mean i have to remaster? or is there a way to set that before the install? [23:14] darn [23:14] No, just means removing update notifier option in software sources [23:14] test is 95 % done... I'll see waht errors it gives me when i try to boot it [23:15] CD is valid [23:16] during the boot [23:17] after installation, go to Synaptic Package Manager, settings, repositories, Updates tab and unchceck "Check for Updates" [23:17] is there any way i can see what's happening? like.. comand line [23:17] There is a command line install option, one the f-keys will give it to you [23:18] Mostly, it is waiting on video to draw the screen so you can see it [23:18] okay... I'll just do a fresh install [23:19] When I take memory down to 64mb and video to 4mb, it takes extremely long to draw each screen. I get a black screen while waiting [23:19] I'm seeing a lot of lines that say package has zero elements when i first boot up [23:20] know what that means? [23:20] fdsasdf [23:20] no, it might mean the cd is bad, even if it passes the tests [23:20] hmmm [23:20] like... the CD itself... not the burn? [23:21] I did have one the entire drive was bad, but I would try another burn first [23:21] I could do all the installs execpt one on that bad drive, and they worked. That was like 15 installs, and one failed in the middle. The cd drive was bad [23:22] crap... [23:22] I guess i could try from USB [23:22] I would burn another cd-r and try that, though [23:23] good idea [23:24] what is xfce's option for a program similar to digikam ? [23:26] TheSheep: sorry i got disconnected ... about my sound, yes, i have the sound prefs set to alsa, but still get very low volume. if you look at http://www.mobilewhack.com/reviews/toshiba_satellite_p35-s605_noteboook.html in the third paragraph it describes what should be great sound capabilities, but i'm not getting it ... [23:29] I'm also trying to install again [23:31] otherwise... if Xubuntu is really not going to work [23:31] any suggestions for an Os that could replace windows 98 on older laptops? [23:32] that isn't puppy or DSL? [23:36] try fluxbuntu PDG1 [23:36] or just install fluxbox on Xubuntu [23:37] hmm [23:37] but fluxbuntu might have a smaller footprint with better support for older systems than xubuntu with fluxbox installed. [23:37] DSL uses fluxbox but isn't supported as well as *buntu [23:37] so the difference between fluxubuntu and xubuntu with fluxbox is? [23:38] fluxbuntu is made with a smaller footprint all together from the get go. [23:38] ohh [23:38] you said that [23:38] sorry [23:38] with fluxbox you may have to manipulate it in order to stop some scripts from starting ... etc.. [23:39] so if there was like... 100 MB of available mem... would that work well? [23:39] or does it need a bit more oomf [23:39] hmmm, that's kind of, well, small. :) [23:39] yeah... I think I've got 128 [23:39] I can't remember what it said [23:39] it would as long as you didn't run any heavy apps like firefox or any GUI browser. [23:39] that's where you'll run into problems, see? [23:39] yeah [23:40] it was running win98 well [23:40] and puppy linux ran pretty good [23:40] puppy is great but it has its own fricking .pup binary apps.. [23:40] that's what kind of drove me [23:40] you won't have access to all those great apps from Debian. [23:41] supposedly there's a way to install debian apps [23:41] but I like how seemless buntu has been [23:41] I'd stick with fluxbuntu and see how it goes, but with that little RAM you're going to run into trouble with any heavy GUI apps. [23:42] yup... gedit and calculator for me [23:42] lol [23:42] you see, you *can* run linux on an old system, but it's not really advisable except for specific use, like a firewall or something or for those folks who don't mine the Terminal. [23:42] yah, you're going to run into trouble. [23:42] yeah... it's not going to be my power house [23:43] I ran a 1.6Ghz with 350+RAM and it did just fine with fluxbox on xubuntu. [23:43] but what's your CPU speed? [23:43] it's a P3... I think coppermine [23:43] so really slow. Wow.. [23:43] less than 500MHz I am sure. [23:44] it says... designed for Win2000 pro or 98 [23:44] you can get by with it, but you better pick your apps well. [23:44] yeah.... [23:45] I used Opera without any java/javascript/plugins running and it ran decently. [23:45] I mean... I really would use puppy or DSL [23:45] opera's slick [23:45] I didn't know just how cool till I got a BB storm from work to demo [23:45] I put Opera mini on it [23:45] DSL is debian based. But I'd just find out what apps DSL uses and go with Fluxbuntu and copy them. [23:45] the web goes like stink [23:46] yah.. [23:46] never used Opera mini. [23:46] it's good... the storm is a bit of a pain in the ass [23:46] but opera mini is good [23:47] Opera is great, yes, but I have found on this system, which is extremely fast dualcore, opera keeps sucking a ton of memory when I leave it open with a lot of tabs open and plugins running. [23:48] weird [23:50] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LowMemorySystems [23:50] yah, it's weird. I can have like 1.5GB or memory coming mostly from Opera... maybe 4/5 from Opera. [23:53] I might give that low memory system a try on Virtualbox to see how it goes. The thing is, if it were as easy as that page makes it seem, then all the other *buntus wouldn't be needed. [23:53] use it as a learning experience. [23:55] thanks [23:55] I'll try that [23:56] PDG1, there's also a way, that I've not tried yet, of creating your very own LiveCD without handrolling it yourself. Check out the web for more info. [23:56] you could create something that runs totally in RAM and save all your data to maybe a USB drive or your Hard drive. [23:56] with linux, it's endless. Have fun. :) [23:57] right now I'm thinking I might be able to up the swap file... [23:57] like have your own eeepc. [23:57] lol...except... it's friggin huge [23:57] you can always do that. That ain't the problem. The problem is the swap file is so damn slow. [23:57] it's a dell inspiron 5000 [23:58] yah. well. I didn't say for your desktop. :) [23:58] yeah... i guess you're right... it needs to be able to write to the swap fast enough to make it worthwihile [23:59] in your case, having a separate harddrive for such a slow computer would be advisable. [23:59] *for your swap [23:59] I might try that myself. I've only got like 2 dozen hard drives hanging around.