[00:08] <maxb> Is there any way to convince gparted to *only* resize a partition, *not* move it?
[00:09] <BUGabundo> ah?
[00:09] <BUGabundo> move how?
[00:09] <BUGabundo> maxb: you always have CLI like parted
[00:11] <maxb> unless the manpage is lying, the parted CLI has no support for resizing ntfs
[00:13] <BUGabundo> ok
[00:19] <BUGabundo> bouas noutes
[02:08] <nixternal> how do you bring Ubuntu out of standby mode?
[02:08] <nixternal> Kubuntu I hit my moon button and it works
[02:08] <nixternal> doesn't work in ubuntu though
[02:17] <Sarvatt> hit any keyboard button?
[02:28] <nixternal> doesn't work, I have even mashed them all
[02:33] <wirechief_> ctrl+alt+sysrq+r  ctrl+alt+sysrq+s  ctrl+alt+sysrq+e  ctrl+alt+sysrq+i  ctrl+alt+sysrq+u ctrl+alt+sysrq+b   will fix it, youll reboot though. nixternal
[03:26] <nixternal> wirechief_: heh, I just push the reset button one the front of the box, a lot easier on the fingers :)
[03:37] <yofel>  nixternal: alt+sysrq+[kreisub] (each letter individually like wirechief_ said) will try to kill x then try to stop all running programs, sync the disks and umount them before rebooting - which should greatly reduce the probability of filesystem errors ;)
[03:38] <nixternal> nothing on ubuntu+1 system for me to care about it...but I did try restarting x and it didn't work before
[03:46] <DanaG> wait a bit between those.
[07:52] <knopper67> What's going on? Why can't I see anyone's messages?
[07:53] <zniavre_> bonjour / good morning
[07:53] <zniavre_> im still unable to install 173.14.16 driver with 2.6.30 kernel,  someone did it ??
[08:38] <skyjumper> anyone have FF 3.5 doing the correct font hinting?
[08:40] <skyjumper> compiled with system cairo + a patch, did the fontconfig thing, no luck
[08:47] <LordKow> anyone been using banshee lately?
[10:24] <pvandewyngaerde> i have updated my grub, it said it was installed correctly. How can i check if i am using grub 2.0, it still says 1.96
[10:25] <yofel> pvandewyngaerde: 1.96 is grub2
[10:26] <pvandewyngaerde> ok, nice, i can see the logic in that
[10:27] <pvandewyngaerde> and what was the version number of the previous one ?
[10:29] <yofel> pvandewyngaerde: you /could/ check that easily yourself in synaptics or with 'apt-cache policy grub' in a terminal ;)
[10:30] <pvandewyngaerde> thx
[10:30] <Machtin> hm.. i got a problem with the nvidia-driver.. the ubuntu one won't work.
[10:31] <zniavre> 180 or 173  ?
[10:31] <Machtin> so i downloaded one from the nvidia-site.. but it says it wants another gcc, because i need to compile with the gcc the kernel was compiled with
[10:31] <Machtin> 180
[10:32] <zniavre> they are supposed to work , you can ignore the warning about gcc
[10:32] <Machtin> 185 iirc is the one from the nvidia page
[10:32] <Machtin> oh, ok.
[10:32] <Machtin> will try, gimme a sec
[10:32] <zniavre> 173 does not compile at all (by the way)
[10:33] <Machtin> humm.. it says it can't find my kernel tree or something.
[10:33] <Machtin> need to get the headers, i guess?
[10:34] <zniavre> for sure if you are using .run
[10:34] <Machtin> which package is that? (sorry.. i only got one tty atm.)
[10:36] <zniavre> linux-headers-2.6.29-02062904-generic   sorry i got only this kernel you should put the one you are using (uname -a)
[10:37] <zniavre> im on jaunty right now .
[10:37] <Machtin> strange enough i got 2.6.28.
[10:37] <Machtin> but there's some 2.6.30 stuff installed o.O
[10:37] <zniavre> you need to reboot maybe ?
[10:38] <yofel> Machtin: then you're probably not using the newest version and apt removed the headers of the old one during the update
[10:39] <Machtin> humm.
[10:39] <Machtin> is that possible without wanting to do it? O.o
[10:39] <Machtin> oh.. or i didn't update grub and got the kernel.
[10:40] <Machtin> might that be possible?
[10:40] <Machtin> haha :) i guess it might
[10:40] <Machtin> let me reboot, brb.
[10:44] <Machtin> okay, that's strange.
[10:44] <Machtin> update-grub said it found 2.6.30-kernels..
[10:44] <Machtin> but they won't appear when i boot
[10:45] <yofel> what does your /boot/grub/menu.lst look like?
[10:45] <yofel> just check that they're in there
[10:46] <Machtin> they're not.. just adding
[10:46] <Machtin> i don't need the uuid line, do i?
[10:46] <yofel> o.O update-grub should have added them, did you edit your menu.lst manually? then sometimes update-grub might fail
[10:47] <Machtin> i am editing right now :)
[10:47] <Machtin> update-grub has failed.. i ran it with sudo
[10:48] <Machtin> and it said "editing menu.lst", then i checked.. but there were only 2.6.28 kernels
[10:49] <Machtin> just wondering whethere i need the uuid-line and what to put after /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.30-8-generic in the kernel line
[10:50] <yofel> well, the kernel needs to know where to find your root partition ;)
[10:50] <Machtin> oh i see.. the id doesn't change.
[10:51] <Machtin> my bad
[10:51] <Machtin> okay, wish me luck.
[11:00] <yofel> well, gotta go now, if it doesn't work try installing the headers for your running kernel with 'sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)' and debug your grub later, hope you'll get it to work. Bye!
[11:03] <Machtin> thanks guys :)
[13:16] <AnAnt> Hello, the boot messages that are on tty8 , don't they get logged to any file ?!
[16:48] <dupondje> Is it a known bug that aptitude just stops outputting ? :s
[17:54] <cdE|Woozy> hm, if you maximize a window and then minimize it, the context menu for that window in the window list shows two restore options
[17:55] <rleeds> Anyone know how to manually install a panel applet? I can't figure out what --prefix to use for configure such that it will show up in the "Add applet..." dialog.
[17:55] <cdE|Woozy> does anyone know which package I should file a bug against?
[17:56] <dobre_zuo> hi
[17:58] <dobre_zuo> what repo should i add to karmic? http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads
[17:59] <dobre_zuo> jaunty is compatibile?
[18:09] <charlie-tca> dobre_zuo: I use the virtualbox-ose from the repositories
[18:27] <thekorn> can somebody on karmic please test some python code for me?
[18:27] <thekorn> http://paste.ubuntu.com/193561/
[18:28] <thekorn> this dies with a glib error on jaunty, and I would like to know if this is fixed in pygtk 2.15
[18:28] <crdlb> "glib error"?
[18:29] <thekorn> *** glibc detected *** python: double free or corruption (!prev): 0x0000000001614850 ***
[18:29] <BUGabundo> thekorn: hi
[18:29] <BUGabundo> what do you need?
[18:29] <crdlb> that's glibc, not glib :)
[18:29] <crdlb> completely unrelated
[18:29] <BUGabundo> hi crdlb. long time no see
[18:29] <crdlb> hi
[18:30] <thekorn> crdlb, sorry my bad
[18:30] <BUGabundo> thekorn: still need me to test?
[18:30] <thekorn> BUGabundo, yes, copy the contetn of the paste above to a file and run this file with python yourfile.py
[18:32] <thekorn> crdlb, ok, so what kind of problem does it indicate? here is the complete output to the terminal: http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/174479/terminal.log
[18:32] <crdlb> a bug in pygtk
[18:33] <BUGabundo> ok
[18:33] <crdlb> clearly something's getting freed that wasn't supposed to be
[18:33] <thekorn> ok, and this is why I would like to know if it is fixed in pygtk 2.15
[18:33] <BUGabundo> 7fbe63596000-7fbe63796000 ---p 00008000 08:01 295863      Aborted (core dumped)
[18:33] <BUGabundo> pastebining now
[18:34] <BUGabundo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/193623/
[18:34] <crdlb> it won't get magically fixed if you don't report it :)
[18:34] <thekorn> super, and it looks like it is not fixed
[18:34] <BUGabundo> bah
[18:34] <thekorn> sure, I will report it now
[18:34] <BUGabundo> should have read the top
[18:34] <BUGabundo> not just tail
[18:34] <BUGabundo> bad bad man
[18:34] <crdlb> it's get_application_info that appears to be buggy
[18:37] <thekorn> yes,I agree gtk.RecentInfo.get_application_info() is broken somehow
[18:37] <thekorn> thanks BUGabundo and crdlb
[18:37] <BUGabundo> thekorn: I'm mad at you :(
[18:38] <thekorn> BUGabundo, I'm ignoring your pastebin ;)
[18:38] <BUGabundo> right :\
[18:39] <BUGabundo> thekorn: here is what you may want http://paste.ubuntu.com/193628/
[18:39] <thekorn> super, thanks
[19:26] <BUGabundo> touch: cannot touch `/var/lib/apt/periodic/update-stamp': No such file or directory
[19:26] <BUGabundo> this is not good!!
[19:29] <knopper67> Is my usermode corrently set? I can't see anyone's messages. can an admin help me with this?
[19:30] <BUGabundo> knopper67: where? here on irc?
[19:30] <knopper67> yeah
[19:30] <BUGabundo> I can see your last message
[19:30] <BUGabundo> both of them actually
[19:30] <knopper67> but I cant see anyone elses...wierd
[19:30] <knopper67> except yours...for some reason
[19:30] <Twigathy> sure the channel isn't just idle? ;)
[19:30] <hggdh> knopper67, ping
[19:32] <BUGabundo> Twigathy: when isn't this # idle ??
[19:32] <BUGabundo> :)
[19:32] <Twigathy> BUGabundo: ahhh, just wait 'till the first beta comes out, a pile of people install it and then it wipes firmware on peoples CD drives or something =)
[19:32] <Twigathy> BUGabundo: then it'd be teeming with users :)
[19:33] <BUGabundo> Twigathy: "is it out ? is it out ? "
[19:33] <Twigathy> *grin*
[19:33] <BUGabundo> Twigathy: "is it safe to instal?"
[19:33] <Twigathy> heck, I know it's not 'safe' but my desktop isn't exactly mission critical, so I'm running Karmic on it :)
[19:34] <ethana2> Twigathy: I dual boot two 'buntus at all times
[19:34] <ethana2> Ubuntu and Ubuntu+1
[19:34] <Twigathy> ethana2: I can fall back to 9.04 - I nfs boot and there's a copy of my old / lying about :)
[19:34] <BUGabundo> I roll +1 once stable comes out
[19:34] <BUGabundo> on my mai laptop
[19:34] <BUGabundo> where all my life is
[19:35] <charlie-tca> Yeah, I tried testing without upgrading, but it don't work for me
[19:35] <BUGabundo> charlie-tca: what ?
[19:36] <charlie-tca> Can't test karmic without upgrading to it. and this is my primary machine
[19:36] <knopper67> irc is still being retarded, I can barely see any messages on ANY channel...
[19:36] <charlie-tca> Are they too light colored?
[19:37] <charlie-tca> BUGabundo: might see if knopper67 has color set for very light messages
[19:37] <BUGabundo> looks fine to me
[19:37] <BUGabundo> knopper67: try mibbit.com
[19:38] <BUGabundo> charlie-tca: no other machine where you can put xub karm on ?
[19:38] <charlie-tca> sure, but this is the one I actually use. It makes it easier to test everything if I use it a lot
[19:39] <charlie-tca> I suppose at some point though, I will have to wipe it and go to ext4
[19:40] <BUGabundo> ehehe
[19:40] <BUGabundo> me too
[19:40] <BUGabundo> need to get a new HD
[19:40] <BUGabundo> and backup all my other disks
[19:40] <BUGabundo> guess I'll have to get 2x1.5TiBs
[19:40] <charlie-tca> That's what I keep thinking to, except mine are only 400GB
[19:41] <BUGabundo> humm my bigger one is 500GiBs
[19:41] <BUGabundo> and one 640 for MemUp a multimedia disk
[19:41] <BUGabundo> then I have all the smallers ones
[19:42] <BUGabundo> 320, 200, 160, 120, 80, 60, 40
[19:42] <BUGabundo> too much stuff lying around
[19:42] <charlie-tca> heh, That's the problem.
[19:42] <BUGabundo> need to merge it all
[19:42] <BUGabundo> and just keep two sets of backups
[19:42] <charlie-tca> Mine start at 4GB, though
[19:43] <Twigathy> currently in use for me, 1GB CompactFlash, 4GB CompactFlash, 200G IDE, 6x500GB SATA, 4x200GB SATA, 4x640GB SATA
[19:43] <Twigathy> and yet I'm still low on disk c_c
[19:44] <BUGabundo> wow
[19:44] <charlie-tca> That seems wrong. OTOH, I started with a 65MB hard drive
[19:45] <BUGabundo> ahh
[19:45] <BUGabundo> I startted with NO HD
[19:45] <BUGabundo> two floopies only
[19:45] <charlie-tca> I learned to keep it clean
[19:45] <BUGabundo> then a 4MiBs and latter a 20MiBs disk
[19:45] <BUGabundo> eheh
[19:47] <Twigathy> well, I have all my DVDs, uncompressed, on them for a start :)
[19:47] <BUGabundo> eheh
[19:49] <ethana2> Twigathy: .iso files?
[19:49] <ethana2> way to go :)
[19:51] <BUGabundo> knopper67: I see you entering
[19:52] <knopper67> yeah, I can see your messages, just not anyone elses, this is weird.
[19:52] <LordKow> well on the + side of things today, latest banshee git has a working rhythmbox migrator/importer :)
[19:53] <knopper67> anyone know if the intel drivers are finally fixed (I mean actually fixed) in karmic?
[19:56] <BUGabundo> 1     libacl1                        1119282 117180 964854 36586   662 (Nathan Scott)
[19:56] <BUGabundo> am I the only one thinking this is strange stats?
[19:56] <BUGabundo> !popcon
[19:56] <BUGabundo> how can that be the TOP packaged installed?
[20:05] <charlie-tca> Could it be the one package that every distro uses?
[20:10] <BUGabundo> I guess
[20:10] <BUGabundo> but would it be the only one?
[20:21] <charlie-tca> don't know why it would be
[20:21] <charlie-tca> But, I don't know why it couldn't be, either
[20:21] <charlie-tca> crap, five bugs against alpha2
[20:23] <DanaG> odd... my USB audio device is not giving any audio.
[20:30] <DanaG> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kernel-team/2006-October/001112.html
[20:31] <DanaG> I see... since I changed the device ID of the device itself.... it thinks it's the wrong device.
[20:36] <DanaG> Is there a way to force snd-usb-audio to treat a device with one ID, as if it had a different ID?      I changed my "Audio Advantage SRM" device to use the ASUS Xonar U1 device ID, so I could use Asus's better Windows drivers... but now it doesn't work in Linux.
[20:36] <DanaG> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kernel-team/2006-October/001112.html  --- Basically, I need to force it to apply this quirk.
[20:43] <DanaG> If I can't fix that... I'll end up having to change the device ID every time I change OS.
[22:24] <knopper67> I don't exactly like the idea of Pidgin being replaced...what was it being replaced with again?
[22:25] <BUGabundo> what!?!??
[22:25] <BUGabundo> replaced!?!?
[22:25] <BUGabundo> empathy?
[22:25] <BUGabundo> didn't read the spec for that
[22:29] <knopper67> What, you didn't hear about that? The news has been all over the place a while ago...
[22:30] <BUGabundo> I've been tracking the blueprint
[22:30] <BUGabundo> and it states nothing on that
[22:31] <knopper67> Meh, the only thing empathy has that pidgin doesn't is voice/video support. So I guess that's a good thing then...
[22:31] <BUGabundo> and that doesn't work
[22:31] <BUGabundo> right kklimonda?
[22:32] <BUGabundo> oh wait he is not hre
[22:32] <BUGabundo> eeheh
[22:32] <knopper67> Voice/Video doesn't work yet? Hmm...maybe it won't be replaced afterall!
[22:34] <BUGabundo> well last time I tried it with kkl he couldn't see me
[22:34] <BUGabundo> and we had lots of trouble with audio
[22:34] <BUGabundo> care to test it again with me knopper67?
[22:34] <knopper67> Yeah, it's still considered alphaware at this point....
[22:35] <charlie-tca> Supposed to be pidgin to empathy and rythym to banshee?
[22:35] <knopper67> can't test it, don't have mic or a webcam...
[22:35] <knopper67> no big deal to me overall.
[22:36] <BUGabundo> LOL
[22:36] <knopper67> I HATE BANSHEE, why do they keep loading up on mono? It's getting ridiculous...
[22:36] <BUGabundo> knopper67: CoC! please...
[22:37] <BUGabundo> let not get the HUGE ML discussion here too
[22:37]  * BUGabundo is pro Mono
[22:37] <charlie-tca> I am not either way, I just things that work
[22:38] <BUGabundo> that too
[22:38] <knopper67> I'm just against the tech behind it, not the program itself...
[22:38] <knopper67> and the patents...
[22:38] <BUGabundo> mono ..
[22:38] <BUGabundo> damn ill shut up
[22:38] <BUGabundo> take it private if you really want
[22:38] <BUGabundo> this is not the place
[22:38] <knopper67> >no more mono, okay, I understand
[22:39] <knopper67> So is alpha 2 out now? I saw some wiki updates the other day...
[22:40] <BUGabundo> not yet
[22:41] <charlie-tca> BUGabundo: I could not reproduce bug 386033
[22:41] <charlie-tca> It installed and removed clean for me
[22:42] <knopper67> It's june 11th, and the schedule said it would be released today.
[22:42] <charlie-tca> (in 9.04, too)
[22:42] <BUGabundo> charlie-tca: thanks
[22:42] <BUGabundo> do you have any tip to place on the bug to help the user?
[22:42] <BUGabundo> guess it should be converted to Answer?
[22:45] <charlie-tca> I got nothing. I installed using apt-get install, ran macchanger in a terminal, and removed with apt-get remove
[22:45] <charlie-tca> It could still be valid, on his hardware
[22:46] <charlie-tca> even though there is only one bug against macchanger in launchpad...
[22:48] <BUGabundo> lol
[22:48] <BUGabundo> no idea what caused it
[22:48] <BUGabundo> and the user is not so unexperienced
[22:49] <charlie-tca> strange thing, that one is.