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maxbIs there any way to convince gparted to *only* resize a partition, *not* move it?00:08
BUGabundoah?00:09
BUGabundomove how?00:09
BUGabundomaxb: you always have CLI like parted00:09
maxbunless the manpage is lying, the parted CLI has no support for resizing ntfs00:11
BUGabundook00:13
BUGabundobouas noutes00:19
nixternalhow do you bring Ubuntu out of standby mode?02:08
nixternalKubuntu I hit my moon button and it works02:08
nixternaldoesn't work in ubuntu though02:08
Sarvatthit any keyboard button?02:17
nixternaldoesn't work, I have even mashed them all02:28
wirechief_ctrl+alt+sysrq+r  ctrl+alt+sysrq+s  ctrl+alt+sysrq+e  ctrl+alt+sysrq+i  ctrl+alt+sysrq+u ctrl+alt+sysrq+b   will fix it, youll reboot though. nixternal02:33
nixternalwirechief_: heh, I just push the reset button one the front of the box, a lot easier on the fingers :)03:26
yofel nixternal: alt+sysrq+[kreisub] (each letter individually like wirechief_ said) will try to kill x then try to stop all running programs, sync the disks and umount them before rebooting - which should greatly reduce the probability of filesystem errors ;)03:37
nixternalnothing on ubuntu+1 system for me to care about it...but I did try restarting x and it didn't work before03:38
DanaGwait a bit between those.03:46
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knopper67What's going on? Why can't I see anyone's messages?07:52
zniavre_bonjour / good morning07:53
zniavre_im still unable to install 173.14.16 driver with 2.6.30 kernel,  someone did it ??07:53
skyjumperanyone have FF 3.5 doing the correct font hinting?08:38
skyjumpercompiled with system cairo + a patch, did the fontconfig thing, no luck08:40
LordKowanyone been using banshee lately?08:47
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pvandewyngaerdei have updated my grub, it said it was installed correctly. How can i check if i am using grub 2.0, it still says 1.9610:24
yofelpvandewyngaerde: 1.96 is grub210:25
pvandewyngaerdeok, nice, i can see the logic in that10:26
pvandewyngaerdeand what was the version number of the previous one ?10:27
yofelpvandewyngaerde: you /could/ check that easily yourself in synaptics or with 'apt-cache policy grub' in a terminal ;)10:29
pvandewyngaerdethx10:30
Machtinhm.. i got a problem with the nvidia-driver.. the ubuntu one won't work.10:30
zniavre180 or 173  ?10:31
Machtinso i downloaded one from the nvidia-site.. but it says it wants another gcc, because i need to compile with the gcc the kernel was compiled with10:31
Machtin18010:31
zniavrethey are supposed to work , you can ignore the warning about gcc10:32
Machtin185 iirc is the one from the nvidia page10:32
Machtinoh, ok.10:32
Machtinwill try, gimme a sec10:32
zniavre173 does not compile at all (by the way)10:32
Machtinhumm.. it says it can't find my kernel tree or something.10:33
Machtinneed to get the headers, i guess?10:33
zniavrefor sure if you are using .run10:34
Machtinwhich package is that? (sorry.. i only got one tty atm.)10:34
zniavrelinux-headers-2.6.29-02062904-generic   sorry i got only this kernel you should put the one you are using (uname -a)10:36
zniavreim on jaunty right now .10:37
Machtinstrange enough i got 2.6.28.10:37
Machtinbut there's some 2.6.30 stuff installed o.O10:37
zniavreyou need to reboot maybe ?10:37
yofelMachtin: then you're probably not using the newest version and apt removed the headers of the old one during the update10:38
Machtinhumm.10:39
Machtinis that possible without wanting to do it? O.o10:39
Machtinoh.. or i didn't update grub and got the kernel.10:39
Machtinmight that be possible?10:40
Machtinhaha :) i guess it might10:40
Machtinlet me reboot, brb.10:40
Machtinokay, that's strange.10:44
Machtinupdate-grub said it found 2.6.30-kernels..10:44
Machtinbut they won't appear when i boot10:44
yofelwhat does your /boot/grub/menu.lst look like?10:45
yofeljust check that they're in there10:45
Machtinthey're not.. just adding10:46
Machtini don't need the uuid line, do i?10:46
yofelo.O update-grub should have added them, did you edit your menu.lst manually? then sometimes update-grub might fail10:46
Machtini am editing right now :)10:47
Machtinupdate-grub has failed.. i ran it with sudo10:47
Machtinand it said "editing menu.lst", then i checked.. but there were only 2.6.28 kernels10:48
Machtinjust wondering whethere i need the uuid-line and what to put after /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.30-8-generic in the kernel line10:49
yofelwell, the kernel needs to know where to find your root partition ;)10:50
Machtinoh i see.. the id doesn't change.10:50
Machtinmy bad10:51
Machtinokay, wish me luck.10:51
yofelwell, gotta go now, if it doesn't work try installing the headers for your running kernel with 'sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)' and debug your grub later, hope you'll get it to work. Bye!11:00
Machtinthanks guys :)11:03
AnAntHello, the boot messages that are on tty8 , don't they get logged to any file ?!13:16
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dupondjeIs it a known bug that aptitude just stops outputting ? :s16:48
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cdE|Woozyhm, if you maximize a window and then minimize it, the context menu for that window in the window list shows two restore options17:54
rleedsAnyone know how to manually install a panel applet? I can't figure out what --prefix to use for configure such that it will show up in the "Add applet..." dialog.17:55
cdE|Woozydoes anyone know which package I should file a bug against?17:55
dobre_zuohi17:56
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dobre_zuowhat repo should i add to karmic? http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads17:58
dobre_zuojaunty is compatibile?17:59
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charlie-tcadobre_zuo: I use the virtualbox-ose from the repositories18:09
thekorncan somebody on karmic please test some python code for me?18:27
thekornhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/193561/18:27
thekornthis dies with a glib error on jaunty, and I would like to know if this is fixed in pygtk 2.1518:28
crdlb"glib error"?18:28
thekorn*** glibc detected *** python: double free or corruption (!prev): 0x0000000001614850 ***18:29
BUGabundothekorn: hi18:29
BUGabundowhat do you need?18:29
crdlbthat's glibc, not glib :)18:29
crdlbcompletely unrelated18:29
BUGabundohi crdlb. long time no see18:29
crdlbhi18:29
thekorncrdlb, sorry my bad18:30
BUGabundothekorn: still need me to test?18:30
thekornBUGabundo, yes, copy the contetn of the paste above to a file and run this file with python yourfile.py18:30
thekorncrdlb, ok, so what kind of problem does it indicate? here is the complete output to the terminal: http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/174479/terminal.log18:32
crdlba bug in pygtk18:32
BUGabundook18:33
crdlbclearly something's getting freed that wasn't supposed to be18:33
thekornok, and this is why I would like to know if it is fixed in pygtk 2.1518:33
BUGabundo7fbe63596000-7fbe63796000 ---p 00008000 08:01 295863      Aborted (core dumped)18:33
BUGabundopastebining now18:33
BUGabundohttp://paste.ubuntu.com/193623/18:34
crdlbit won't get magically fixed if you don't report it :)18:34
thekornsuper, and it looks like it is not fixed18:34
BUGabundobah18:34
thekornsure, I will report it now18:34
BUGabundoshould have read the top18:34
BUGabundonot just tail18:34
BUGabundobad bad man18:34
crdlbit's get_application_info that appears to be buggy18:34
thekornyes,I agree gtk.RecentInfo.get_application_info() is broken somehow18:37
thekornthanks BUGabundo and crdlb18:37
BUGabundothekorn: I'm mad at you :(18:37
thekornBUGabundo, I'm ignoring your pastebin ;)18:38
BUGabundoright :\18:38
BUGabundothekorn: here is what you may want http://paste.ubuntu.com/193628/18:39
thekornsuper, thanks18:39
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BUGabundotouch: cannot touch `/var/lib/apt/periodic/update-stamp': No such file or directory19:26
BUGabundothis is not good!!19:26
knopper67Is my usermode corrently set? I can't see anyone's messages. can an admin help me with this?19:29
BUGabundoknopper67: where? here on irc?19:30
knopper67yeah19:30
BUGabundoI can see your last message19:30
BUGabundoboth of them actually19:30
knopper67but I cant see anyone elses...wierd19:30
knopper67except yours...for some reason19:30
Twigathysure the channel isn't just idle? ;)19:30
hggdhknopper67, ping19:30
BUGabundoTwigathy: when isn't this # idle ??19:32
BUGabundo:)19:32
TwigathyBUGabundo: ahhh, just wait 'till the first beta comes out, a pile of people install it and then it wipes firmware on peoples CD drives or something =)19:32
TwigathyBUGabundo: then it'd be teeming with users :)19:32
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BUGabundoTwigathy: "is it out ? is it out ? "19:33
Twigathy*grin*19:33
BUGabundoTwigathy: "is it safe to instal?"19:33
Twigathyheck, I know it's not 'safe' but my desktop isn't exactly mission critical, so I'm running Karmic on it :)19:33
ethana2Twigathy: I dual boot two 'buntus at all times19:34
ethana2Ubuntu and Ubuntu+119:34
Twigathyethana2: I can fall back to 9.04 - I nfs boot and there's a copy of my old / lying about :)19:34
BUGabundoI roll +1 once stable comes out19:34
BUGabundoon my mai laptop19:34
BUGabundowhere all my life is19:34
charlie-tcaYeah, I tried testing without upgrading, but it don't work for me19:35
BUGabundocharlie-tca: what ?19:35
charlie-tcaCan't test karmic without upgrading to it. and this is my primary machine19:36
knopper67irc is still being retarded, I can barely see any messages on ANY channel...19:36
charlie-tcaAre they too light colored?19:36
charlie-tcaBUGabundo: might see if knopper67 has color set for very light messages19:37
BUGabundolooks fine to me19:37
BUGabundoknopper67: try mibbit.com19:37
BUGabundocharlie-tca: no other machine where you can put xub karm on ?19:38
charlie-tcasure, but this is the one I actually use. It makes it easier to test everything if I use it a lot19:38
charlie-tcaI suppose at some point though, I will have to wipe it and go to ext419:39
BUGabundoehehe19:40
BUGabundome too19:40
BUGabundoneed to get a new HD19:40
BUGabundoand backup all my other disks19:40
BUGabundoguess I'll have to get 2x1.5TiBs19:40
charlie-tcaThat's what I keep thinking to, except mine are only 400GB19:40
BUGabundohumm my bigger one is 500GiBs19:41
BUGabundoand one 640 for MemUp a multimedia disk19:41
BUGabundothen I have all the smallers ones19:41
BUGabundo320, 200, 160, 120, 80, 60, 4019:42
BUGabundotoo much stuff lying around19:42
charlie-tcaheh, That's the problem.19:42
BUGabundoneed to merge it all19:42
BUGabundoand just keep two sets of backups19:42
charlie-tcaMine start at 4GB, though19:42
Twigathycurrently in use for me, 1GB CompactFlash, 4GB CompactFlash, 200G IDE, 6x500GB SATA, 4x200GB SATA, 4x640GB SATA19:43
Twigathyand yet I'm still low on disk c_c19:43
BUGabundowow19:44
charlie-tcaThat seems wrong. OTOH, I started with a 65MB hard drive19:44
BUGabundoahh19:45
BUGabundoI startted with NO HD19:45
BUGabundotwo floopies only19:45
charlie-tcaI learned to keep it clean19:45
BUGabundothen a 4MiBs and latter a 20MiBs disk19:45
BUGabundoeheh19:45
Twigathywell, I have all my DVDs, uncompressed, on them for a start :)19:47
BUGabundoeheh19:47
ethana2Twigathy: .iso files?19:49
ethana2way to go :)19:49
BUGabundoknopper67: I see you entering19:51
knopper67yeah, I can see your messages, just not anyone elses, this is weird.19:52
LordKowwell on the + side of things today, latest banshee git has a working rhythmbox migrator/importer :)19:52
knopper67anyone know if the intel drivers are finally fixed (I mean actually fixed) in karmic?19:53
BUGabundo1     libacl1                        1119282 117180 964854 36586   662 (Nathan Scott)19:56
BUGabundoam I the only one thinking this is strange stats?19:56
BUGabundo!popcon19:56
ubottuThe Ubuntu Popularity Contest project is an attempt to map the usage of Ubuntu packages. To participate, install the package "popularity-contest", and see  http://popcon.ubuntu.com/ and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LucasNussbaum/PopconDraft19:56
BUGabundohow can that be the TOP packaged installed?19:56
charlie-tcaCould it be the one package that every distro uses?20:05
BUGabundoI guess20:10
BUGabundobut would it be the only one?20:10
charlie-tcadon't know why it would be20:21
charlie-tcaBut, I don't know why it couldn't be, either20:21
charlie-tcacrap, five bugs against alpha220:21
DanaGodd... my USB audio device is not giving any audio.20:23
DanaGhttps://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kernel-team/2006-October/001112.html20:30
DanaGI see... since I changed the device ID of the device itself.... it thinks it's the wrong device.20:31
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DanaGIs there a way to force snd-usb-audio to treat a device with one ID, as if it had a different ID?      I changed my "Audio Advantage SRM" device to use the ASUS Xonar U1 device ID, so I could use Asus's better Windows drivers... but now it doesn't work in Linux.20:36
DanaGhttps://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kernel-team/2006-October/001112.html  --- Basically, I need to force it to apply this quirk.20:36
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DanaGIf I can't fix that... I'll end up having to change the device ID every time I change OS.20:43
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knopper67I don't exactly like the idea of Pidgin being replaced...what was it being replaced with again?22:24
BUGabundowhat!?!??22:25
BUGabundoreplaced!?!?22:25
BUGabundoempathy?22:25
BUGabundodidn't read the spec for that22:25
knopper67What, you didn't hear about that? The news has been all over the place a while ago...22:29
BUGabundoI've been tracking the blueprint22:30
BUGabundoand it states nothing on that22:30
knopper67Meh, the only thing empathy has that pidgin doesn't is voice/video support. So I guess that's a good thing then...22:31
BUGabundoand that doesn't work22:31
BUGabundoright kklimonda?22:31
BUGabundooh wait he is not hre22:32
BUGabundoeeheh22:32
knopper67Voice/Video doesn't work yet? Hmm...maybe it won't be replaced afterall!22:32
BUGabundowell last time I tried it with kkl he couldn't see me22:34
BUGabundoand we had lots of trouble with audio22:34
BUGabundocare to test it again with me knopper67?22:34
knopper67Yeah, it's still considered alphaware at this point....22:34
charlie-tcaSupposed to be pidgin to empathy and rythym to banshee?22:35
knopper67can't test it, don't have mic or a webcam...22:35
knopper67no big deal to me overall.22:35
BUGabundoLOL22:36
knopper67I HATE BANSHEE, why do they keep loading up on mono? It's getting ridiculous...22:36
BUGabundoknopper67: CoC! please...22:36
BUGabundolet not get the HUGE ML discussion here too22:37
* BUGabundo is pro Mono22:37
charlie-tcaI am not either way, I just things that work22:37
BUGabundothat too22:38
knopper67I'm just against the tech behind it, not the program itself...22:38
knopper67and the patents...22:38
BUGabundomono ..22:38
BUGabundodamn ill shut up22:38
BUGabundotake it private if you really want22:38
BUGabundothis is not the place22:38
knopper67>no more mono, okay, I understand22:38
knopper67So is alpha 2 out now? I saw some wiki updates the other day...22:39
BUGabundonot yet22:40
charlie-tcaBUGabundo: I could not reproduce bug 38603322:41
ubottuLaunchpad bug 386033 in macchanger "after install macchanger -> erro : subprocess post-install script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/38603322:41
charlie-tcaIt installed and removed clean for me22:41
knopper67It's june 11th, and the schedule said it would be released today.22:42
charlie-tca(in 9.04, too)22:42
BUGabundocharlie-tca: thanks22:42
BUGabundodo you have any tip to place on the bug to help the user?22:42
BUGabundoguess it should be converted to Answer?22:42
charlie-tcaI got nothing. I installed using apt-get install, ran macchanger in a terminal, and removed with apt-get remove22:45
charlie-tcaIt could still be valid, on his hardware22:45
charlie-tcaeven though there is only one bug against macchanger in launchpad...22:46
BUGabundolol22:48
BUGabundono idea what caused it22:48
BUGabundoand the user is not so unexperienced22:48
charlie-tcastrange thing, that one is.22:49

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