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hggdhsigh. another tornado warning00:52
hggdhbrb. Or not...00:53
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dholbachgood morning06:34
neoXsysUbuntu 9.04, Sound Control -> Recording, Recording buttons always remains false. :(06:56
neoXsysIs that know Bug?06:56
neoXsysEven code it self says the same :( http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/193231/06:58
thekorngood morning07:28
micahgmorning07:28
thekornand happy hug day everybody!07:29
thekornmorning micahg07:29
micahgI hugged 4 already :)07:29
* thekorn hugs micahg 07:29
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pedro_folks we're celebrating a hug day today! https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugDay/20090611 feel free to start triaging any bug of that list and if you have any questions please ask those in the channel13:14
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pedro_salut seb12814:18
seb128pedro_: ola14:18
MagicFabheya14:38
MagicFabI am not sure how to report a bug about an application that crashes.14:38
MagicFabUsing ubuntu-bug I get the apport dialog right away... I want to open the app and only get apport when it crashes.14:38
MagicFabCurrently it crashes silently.14:38
MagicFabWhat should I do ?14:38
MagicFabThe app is pencil, crashes when using export > Flash / SWF14:39
seb128MagicFab: enable apport?14:40
persiaMagicFab, Is apport enabled?  Check https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/EnableProposed14:41
MagicFabHmm normally it's enabled on this system - duh! let me check.14:41
persia(didn't enabling apport used to be done in /etc/default/apport or something?  Might it be worth documenting the old way for people doing -proposed testing on dapper or hardy?)14:42
neoXsysAgain, Ubuntu 9.04, Volume Applet -> Open Volume Control -> Recording, Recording Buttons always remains "FALSE", doesn't owner the users's choice.14:42
neoXsysIs that know bug?14:42
persiaMagicFab, apport also has a preference to disable reports for a certain app&version, in case you've already reported the bug  I'm not sure where that's stored, but there would have been a checkbox.14:42
neoXsysEven code says the same :(  Please look http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/193231/14:43
persianeoXsys, You'd probably want to search LP to determine if it's a known bug: there's a large enough number that only a subset is usually known to the people in the channel at any given time.14:43
neoXsyspersia: Sure, That i will do, I just want to take chance because seb128 is here :)14:44
MagicFabok, so I am not crazy, I just hadn't enabled it in this system - tx. !!14:44
MagicFabI guess I'll wait.. "Could not upload report data to crash database: <urlopen error timed out>"14:46
seb128neoXsys: I think that's a duplicate yes14:48
seb128we have a zillion of bugs about that interface and recording and nobody looking at those anyway14:48
seb128so no real need to bother open this one on launchpad14:48
neoXsysseb128: Thanks. Now let me search one and try to fix one :)14:49
bddebianBoo15:02
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neoXsysseb128: This is the bug i am talking about https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-media/+bug/29964215:36
ubot4Launchpad bug 299642 in gnome-media "Microphone Capture ALWAYS muted" [Low,Confirmed]15:36
neoXsysseb128: Which is already filed in Upstream http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=57817415:36
ubot4Gnome bug 578174 in gst-mixer "gnome-volume-control mutes my audio" [Minor,New]15:36
seb128ok15:37
neoXsysneoXsys: Can we attach the Upstream to LP Bug?15:37
BUGabundoseb128: hi. quick question if you can15:37
seb128BUGabundo: hi, sure15:38
BUGabundoseb128: what is the current karmic packages for bluetooth?15:38
neoXsysseb128: Can we attach Upstream bug to LP bug?15:38
BUGabundoI seem to have too many of them seb12815:38
seb128neoXsys: yes, click on the text under the table to say it also concern and upstream project and copy the url15:38
seb128BUGabundo: I've no clue about bluetooth but the goal is to move to gnome-bluetooth15:38
neoXsysseb128: Thanks :)15:38
seb128not sure if they are there yet though15:38
BUGabundoyeah I noticed so in the blueprint seb12815:39
BUGabundobut since I have both gnome, bluez, and bluetooth stack15:39
BUGabundoI get a messy system15:39
neoXsysseb128: But, can i use the "Also affects project" link?15:41
seb128neoXsys: right15:41
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bdmurrayleoquant: you should be able to renew your own membership in the desktop bugs team16:26
bdmurraypedro_: I don't think bug 363500 should be fix released for jaunty do you?16:32
ubot4Launchpad bug 363500 in update-manager "update-manager jaunty partial upgrade exits silently" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/36350016:32
bdmurraypedro_: whoops, my bad16:32
pedro_bdmurray: np16:33
bdmurrayShouldn't it be Fix Released for karmic though?16:34
pedro_does that version contains the build depends on the nvidia-common?16:37
* pedro_ looking 16:37
persiaI think it ought be fix released in jaunty: as it was claimed to be fied in 0.111.8, and jaunty-updates has 0.111.916:37
bdmurrayright, so the jaunty task looks good, I'm curious about the karmic one16:38
bdmurrayI think it can be Fix Released...16:40
pedro_bdmurray: well the build depend (on nvidia-common) is also on the  the karmic package, so yeap16:40
pedro_fix released for me as well16:40
bdmurraycool16:41
persiaSufficiently versioned build-depend?16:41
bdmurrayseb128: Could you please remove me as an admin of the desktop bugs team?16:41
seb128bdmurray: changed16:43
bdmurraythanks16:44
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bdmurrayasac: is the intrepid n-m task for bug 327053 fixed?16:54
ubot4Launchpad bug 327053 in network-manager "Intrepid -> Jaunty upgrade kills NetworkManager" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/32705316:54
dupondjehttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/aiccu/+bug/104590 <- its fixed but not yet in repo's ?17:08
ubot4Launchpad bug 104590 in aiccu "AICCU halts during post-installation" [Medium,Fix committed]17:08
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leoquantbdmurray thx, but i'am not able to renew it, i have got no email.17:30
* leoquant takes a look at the launchpad page17:32
fccfGreetings bug-team --- strange sitiuation ... running hardy ... trying to install build-essential and it keeps saying that there are missing dependincies... I have a Ubuntu 8.04 server install and it is saying that the necessary version isn't available for g++ --- see this http://paste.ubuntu.com/193576/   -- been using ubuntu for 4 years and I know I have a very regular install - and regular package list ... what's broken --- I'd co17:52
BUGabundofccf: that's more appropriated for #ubuntu17:52
BUGabundo#ubuntu-bugs is for triage17:52
BUGabundonever the less I'll try to help17:53
persiaHrm?  No, that's a bug.17:53
BUGabundoI think you are using the CD as the main reop17:53
BUGabundo*repo17:53
BUGabundocheck your Software Sources and remove it17:53
fccfno I have removed the CD line .... Does it need to be there?17:53
BUGabundothen you should be able to update and install17:53
BUGabundono need!17:53
BUGabundoonly if you do not have net17:53
persiaBUGabundo, But the CD should be self-contained: if build-essential is there, then all the dependencies ought be there (otherwise it's a bug)17:53
BUGabundobbl ! lunch17:53
BUGabundopersia: there was a bug, that the package on the CD as not enough17:54
persiaAnyone else have a hardy system available?17:54
BUGabundobut it was on pre-jaunty17:54
persiaBUGabundo, Ah.  Annoying.17:54
BUGabundoit happened to me a few times17:54
fccfalready ran update - and I do have net and have checked everything I know17:54
BUGabundohave to go. food awaits17:54
fccfeat up BUGabundo17:54
fccfpersia: I have run apt-get update & apt-get upgrade ... at latest versions of everything hardy ... I actually think this is a bug based on 4 years as an ubuntu user ... I welcome any input17:59
persiafccf, I think you're right it's a bug.  I don't have a hardy system handy to verify (although I might in a couple hours).18:00
persiaBasically, the trick is determining what changed that broke it, and fixing it.18:01
fccfI will track down as much as I can in the next hour or so ... I will have some pastebins for the channel18:02
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fccfstart with these http://paste.ubuntu.com/193603/   http://paste.ubuntu.com/193607/18:08
persiafccf, Keep going down the stack until you find something that explains itself with more than "is not going to be installed"18:10
fccfI think I found it ... hold on18:11
fccfCouldn't find package g++-4.2-base18:11
persiaAha!18:12
persiaNext, do an apt-cache search g++, and see what exists with -base.18:12
fccfi did apt-cache search g++ |grep base --- is that right? still a very long list18:14
fccfbased base database ...18:15
fccfit is there gcc-4.2-base - The GNU Compiler Collection (base package)18:15
persiaOdd, I wouldn't have expected a gcc-4.2-base without a g++-4.2-base.18:16
fccfso it is named wrong in packages.gz?18:17
persiaNo, more likely something else is wrong.18:17
fccfI'll keep digging18:17
persiaapt-cache rdepends  g++-4.2-base may help18:17
persiaBut I'm going to stop helping you with this now, in hopes that I can get to a hardy environment sooner, and help you more then :)18:18
asacbdmurray: the upgrade issues are resolved without touching intrepid iirc18:18
fccfok see you in a bit18:18
fccflee@fccf-stream:~$ apt-cache rdepends g++-4.2-base /newline/ W: Unable to locate package g++-4.2-base18:20
persiafccf, I got a hardy system up, although it turns out build-essential was already installed.  Which package were you trying to install that pointed at g++-4.2-base ?18:31
fccfg++-4.218:34
fccflook at second paste18:34
fccf193607\18:34
persiafccf, Which architecture are you using?18:38
fccfsee also http://paste.ubuntu.com/193627/18:38
fccffrom uname -a Linux fccf-stream 2.6.24-24-server #1 SMP Wed Apr 15 16:36:01 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux18:39
BUGabundo.24?18:39
BUGabundothat's not jaunty is it ?18:39
fccfno this system is hardy18:40
charlie-tcashould be hardy18:40
BUGabundoyeah18:40
BUGabundousing cutting edge makes me loose track of older versions18:41
persiafccf, Hrm.  Try a dist-upgrade.  I think you got caught by the 4.2.3 -> 4.2.4 change.18:41
persia(which is a known and partially solved, bug).18:41
fccfdoes dist-upgrade take me to intrepid?18:41
persiaNot unless you change your sources.list.  It just tries to upgrade harder.18:42
BUGabundofccf: no18:42
persiaYou have -updates and -security enabled, right?18:42
BUGabundofccf: update-manager -c or -d does upgrade you18:43
fccfyes - lemme make make sure18:43
BUGabundoIF, big IF, you have set it to Normal distro release and not LTS18:43
fccfwhoops security and updates were not checked ... reloading now18:44
fccfI'm an Idoit .... thank you for your wasted time bug-team18:44
persiafccf, What was the issue?18:44
fccfi didn't have security or updates enabled18:45
fccfthat resolved everything18:45
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persiaYou still shouldn't have gotten into that situation, but it appears it was the known issue with the 4.2.3 -> 4.2.4 mess, or at least that there's nothing else to fix.  Thanks for confirming.18:45
fccfbuild-essental is now installed --- now to compile18:46
fccfagain thanks guys18:47
BUGabundocan some take a quick look at https://launchpad.net/bugs/386033 ?18:54
ubot4Launchpad bug 386033 in macchanger "after install macchanger -> erro : subprocess post-install script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,New]18:54
charlie-tcaneat bug18:57
charlie-tcathe install failed, so the removal fails too18:57
BUGabundocharlie-tca: actually I think install worked18:58
BUGabundolet me ask18:58
BUGabundocharlie-tca: user reports he can run it!18:59
charlie-tcathat's good! but this is install failing, isn't it? subprocess post-install script returned error exit status 119:00
charlie-tcaSomething failed to complete19:01
persiaThat's often a failure-to-configure, rather than a failure-to-install.19:02
BUGabundowell he installed, used it19:02
charlie-tcahave him attach the log from /var/log/dpkg.log19:02
BUGabundowhen he tried to remove it, it failed19:02
charlie-tcaSince apport did not attach any19:02
charlie-tcaThat might show what failed better19:02
BUGabundohttp://pastebin.com/m3d374ec319:02
charlie-tcalooks to me like it says it can't find it to remove it entirely.19:04
charlie-tcaWill synaptic package manager remove it?19:04
BUGabundoI've asked the user to come here19:05
BUGabundohi alfatec19:05
alfatechi19:05
BUGabundoalfatec: Will synaptic package manager remove it?19:05
alfatecno19:05
alfatecgive the same error19:05
charlie-tcauh-oh19:06
BUGabundoalfatec: still have the apt-cache policy link around ?19:07
BUGabundoalfatec: $ apt-cache policy macchanger19:07
charlie-tcaI can try to confirm it after I get this install done I'm running19:07
* BUGabundo still feels pastebinit should come on default install19:07
alfatechttp://paste.ubuntu.com/193643/19:08
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pedro_hey micahg1, great work on the hug day ;-)20:19
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bcurtiswx-minianyone here heard of the "hundredpapercuts" project??22:16
persiabcurtiswx-mini, minimally.  All the bugs I've seen so far seemed to be asking for comment.22:16
BUGabundono idea what that is22:18
bcurtiswx-minipersia, i have a bug that was randomly assigned to the one hunder paper cuts project and the launchpad page is very uninformational22:18
bcurtiswx-minianything against me removing that and asking what and why (since the changer didn't comment on the change?)22:18
persiabcurtiswx-mini, I'd leave that to the hundredpapercuts folk.  I believe they are encouraging people to add papercuts tasks to bugs.22:19
bcurtiswx-miniwhat is a "papercut" ?22:19
charlie-tcaIt's the one hundred easy fix bugs to be done by release of karmic22:21
bdmurraythere was something about it on planet recently22:22
calcbcurtiswx-mini: if you remove it may not get fixed for karmic, marking it means it will likely be fixed22:22
calcat least aiui22:23
bcurtiswx-minihmm, ok.. just had red flag going up in my mind, because the person who assigned this bug to the paper cut project has almost no affiliations and i didn't know what papercutproject was22:23
bcurtiswx-minino big deal apparently :) thx22:23
bdmurrayI don't understand why they created a project though22:24
* calc has no idea how its implemented22:24
calcbdmurray: isn't it being run by ivanca/22:24
calcer ?22:24
bcurtiswx-minibug #359740 is the bug im talking about22:24
ubot4Launchpad bug 359740 in gstreamer0.10 "Volume control should change slower when loud and faster when silent " [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/35974022:24
calchmm i though the papercuts was supposed to just be a tag, but i haven't been following it closely22:25
persiaI'm not sure all the papercuts will get "fixed", but I presume they'll all at least get more attention than they would otherwise.22:26
calcbut there are 80 open bugs with that task so i guess it is the way they are doing it22:26
* persia is reminded of the phrase "death by a thousand cuts"22:27
BUGabundopersia: :))22:27
hggdhbdmurray, ping -- please see http://paste.ubuntu.com/193807/, this is how it is getting to be23:04
bdmurrayhggdh: outstanding!23:04
hggdhstill some cleanup to do, turned out to be more weird than I expected...23:05
micahgdoes LP edge allow more than one file uploaded at a time?23:07
bdmurraynot edge or production23:08
micahgso I guess I have to attach them 1 at a time23:08
bdmurrayunless apport-collect gets what you want23:09
micahgnope, it's pngs23:09
BUGabundomicahg: used to do23:10
BUGabundobut theirs is /was a bug23:10
micahgBUGabundo: can you confirm 386132?23:11
micahgoops23:11
micahgbug 38613223:11
ubot4Launchpad bug 386132 in firefox-3.5 "Firefox 3.5 renders certain pngs with wrong colors" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/38613223:11
BUGabundoLOLOL23:12
BUGabundoits BLUE23:12
micahgtry it in FF 3.023:13
BUGabundotesting23:13
BUGabundoworks23:14
micahg:)23:14
BUGabundomicahg: confirmed23:15
BUGabundolet me test opera and chormium23:16
micahgBUGabundo: can you confirm in LP?23:16
micahgit's my bug :)23:16
BUGabundogrr23:16
BUGabundodoesn't show the full page on chromium23:16
BUGabundoOLOLOL23:16
BUGabundohumm red is redish on chromium23:17
BUGabundomicahg: humm23:18
BUGabundowait soemthig wrong here23:18
BUGabundoyou mean just the PNG or the full palet?23:18
BUGabundocause the pngs alone show OK23:18
micahgpng23:18
micahgwhere?23:18
BUGabundowell amrlima just said he fixed that same bug23:19
BUGabundobut he lost link23:19
BUGabundoasked him to come here23:19
BUGabundohttp://launchpadlibrarian.net/27796267/square_glass_green.png23:19
BUGabundothis is GREEN23:19
BUGabundohttp://launchpadlibrarian.net/27796158/ff3.5Display.png23:20
BUGabundothis is blue23:20
BUGabundoso micahg I can't be sure I can confirm the bug23:21
micahgBUGabundo: why not?23:21
micahgit shows green for you in FF3.6?23:21
BUGabundoI'm confused23:21
BUGabundoyes23:21
BUGabundohttp://launchpadlibrarian.net/27796267/square_glass_green.png23:21
BUGabundodoes23:21
BUGabundohttp://launchpadlibrarian.net/27796158/ff3.5Display.png23:21
BUGabundodoesn't!23:21
amrlimaBUGabundo: micahg if you change in about:config just change gfx.color_management_mode from 2 to 023:22
micahgBUGabundo: the second one was a png I took of the display23:22
micahgit shouldn't change23:22
amrlimai think png's get back to normal23:22
BUGabundothe 3.5 is BLUE23:22
BUGabundothe green png is a scale of green23:22
micahgamrlima: do I have to restart FF?23:23
BUGabundonope23:23
BUGabundoabout:config is usually real time23:23
amrlimacan't remember23:23
micahgdidn't work in 3.5, let me try 3.623:23
amrlimamicahg: try to restart23:24
micahgok23:24
BUGabundolet me test 3.523:24
micahgworks :)23:25
amrlimagreat :)23:25
micahgso now what?23:25
micahgIsn't it still a bug?23:25
micahgwhat does that setting do?23:25
micahgis it ati driver only?23:26
BUGabundolooks the same to me on 3.523:26
BUGabundonvidia here23:26
micahgsame with what BUGabundo23:26
micahgBUGabundo: did you make the setting change?23:26
micahgor by default was it ok?23:26
amrlimaI have ati23:27
BUGabundoI did not change my about:config23:27
micahgok23:27
amrlimaI had the bug only with this pc23:27
micahgamrlima: is that the only {PC with ati?23:27
amrlimayes , the other is nvidia23:27
micahgamrlima: gfx color managerment is disabled in ff3.023:28
BUGabundoUnreportableReason: This is not a genuine Ubuntu package23:28
BUGabundoLOVE this ^^^^^23:28
micahgIt's not, it's from the dailies :)23:29
BUGabundowhy can I see the attachements without login !?!?!23:30
amrlimaBUGabundo: it's always been like that i think..23:30
BUGabundonever noticed23:33
BUGabundoI'm always logdin23:33
micahgBUGabundo: it's already upstream23:48
micahgmozilla bug 49053723:48
ubot4Mozilla bug 490537 in GFX: Color Management "Colors in some PNG images are severely wrong" [Major,Unconfirmed] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49053723:48
micahghggdh: can I mark my own bug triaged without confirmation if I found it upstream?23:49
bdmurrayYes, that's reasonable.23:50
hggdhyes23:50
micahgok, also would you classify a color rendering issue as medium in firefox or high?23:50
hggdhdoes it block the user from seeing the frames?23:51
micahghttps://bug490537.bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=37493923:51
micahgfor me it was just a color change23:52
micahgbut was counterintuitive in my web app23:52
hggdhugh!23:52
hggdhreal bad... I would go with high...23:52
BUGabundohggdh: no23:53
hggdhno?23:53
BUGabundodoesn't affect defaut browser23:53
micahgwhat?23:53
micahgit sure does in ff3.523:53
BUGabundokarmic still has 3.0 as default23:53
BUGabundoI think23:53
hggdhwhat BUGabundo means is ff3.5 is not the default appl23:53
BUGabundoshould change to 3.5 once final hit23:53
micahgyes, but importance is per app23:54
BUGabundohggdh: yep23:54
micahgah23:54
BUGabundoisn't it per audience?23:54
hggdhstill, it is worth it -- 3.5 is the replacement-to-be23:54
BUGabundoyeah23:54
BUGabundomedium ?23:54
micahgHas a severe impact on a small portion of Ubuntu users (estimated)23:54
micahg?23:54
hggdhwill have a severe impact later on... OTOH, this will be fixed upstream, so we can go with medium23:55
micahgok23:55
hggdhoy vey23:55
micahgI was thinking medium to begin with23:55
BUGabundoonly on ATI !?23:55
micahgyeah, so23:55
BUGabundoso not that big audience23:55
BUGabundoI guess... then again if I was affected... it would be bad23:55
micahg??23:55
micahgthey are a major vendor23:56
hggdhpython regular expressions are... weird...23:56
micahgIt's at medium23:56
micahgif FF3.5 becomes default and it's not fixed, I'll move to high23:56
BUGabundomicahg: s/if/when/23:56
micahgBUGabundo: assuming it gets released before October :)23:57
BUGabundoahhaha23:58

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