[00:52] sigh. another tornado warning [00:53] brb. Or not... === asac_ is now known as asac === dwg_ is now known as dwg [06:34] good morning [06:56] Ubuntu 9.04, Sound Control -> Recording, Recording buttons always remains false. :( [06:56] Is that know Bug? [06:58] Even code it self says the same :( http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/193231/ [07:28] good morning [07:28] morning [07:29] and happy hug day everybody! [07:29] morning micahg [07:29] I hugged 4 already :) [07:29] * thekorn hugs micahg === madmax_X_ is now known as madmax_X === ziroday is now known as zeroday === zeroday is now known as ziroday` === ziroday` is now known as ziroday [13:14] folks we're celebrating a hug day today! https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugDay/20090611 feel free to start triaging any bug of that list and if you have any questions please ask those in the channel === jjesse_ is now known as jjesse === thekorn_ is now known as thekorn [14:18] salut seb128 [14:18] pedro_: ola [14:38] heya [14:38] I am not sure how to report a bug about an application that crashes. [14:38] Using ubuntu-bug I get the apport dialog right away... I want to open the app and only get apport when it crashes. [14:38] Currently it crashes silently. [14:38] What should I do ? [14:39] The app is pencil, crashes when using export > Flash / SWF [14:40] MagicFab: enable apport? [14:41] MagicFab, Is apport enabled? Check https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/EnableProposed [14:41] Hmm normally it's enabled on this system - duh! let me check. [14:42] (didn't enabling apport used to be done in /etc/default/apport or something? Might it be worth documenting the old way for people doing -proposed testing on dapper or hardy?) [14:42] Again, Ubuntu 9.04, Volume Applet -> Open Volume Control -> Recording, Recording Buttons always remains "FALSE", doesn't owner the users's choice. [14:42] Is that know bug? [14:42] MagicFab, apport also has a preference to disable reports for a certain app&version, in case you've already reported the bug I'm not sure where that's stored, but there would have been a checkbox. [14:43] Even code says the same :( Please look http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/193231/ [14:43] neoXsys, You'd probably want to search LP to determine if it's a known bug: there's a large enough number that only a subset is usually known to the people in the channel at any given time. [14:44] persia: Sure, That i will do, I just want to take chance because seb128 is here :) [14:44] ok, so I am not crazy, I just hadn't enabled it in this system - tx. !! [14:46] I guess I'll wait.. "Could not upload report data to crash database: " [14:48] neoXsys: I think that's a duplicate yes [14:48] we have a zillion of bugs about that interface and recording and nobody looking at those anyway [14:48] so no real need to bother open this one on launchpad [14:49] seb128: Thanks. Now let me search one and try to fix one :) [15:02] Boo === torkiano is now known as torkiano|afk [15:36] seb128: This is the bug i am talking about https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-media/+bug/299642 [15:36] Launchpad bug 299642 in gnome-media "Microphone Capture ALWAYS muted" [Low,Confirmed] [15:36] seb128: Which is already filed in Upstream http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=578174 [15:36] Gnome bug 578174 in gst-mixer "gnome-volume-control mutes my audio" [Minor,New] [15:37] ok [15:37] neoXsys: Can we attach the Upstream to LP Bug? [15:37] seb128: hi. quick question if you can [15:38] BUGabundo: hi, sure [15:38] seb128: what is the current karmic packages for bluetooth? [15:38] seb128: Can we attach Upstream bug to LP bug? [15:38] I seem to have too many of them seb128 [15:38] neoXsys: yes, click on the text under the table to say it also concern and upstream project and copy the url [15:38] BUGabundo: I've no clue about bluetooth but the goal is to move to gnome-bluetooth [15:38] seb128: Thanks :) [15:38] not sure if they are there yet though [15:39] yeah I noticed so in the blueprint seb128 [15:39] but since I have both gnome, bluez, and bluetooth stack [15:39] I get a messy system [15:41] seb128: But, can i use the "Also affects project" link? [15:41] neoXsys: right === theyeti_ is now known as theyeti [16:26] leoquant: you should be able to renew your own membership in the desktop bugs team [16:32] pedro_: I don't think bug 363500 should be fix released for jaunty do you? [16:32] Launchpad bug 363500 in update-manager "update-manager jaunty partial upgrade exits silently" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/363500 [16:32] pedro_: whoops, my bad [16:33] bdmurray: np [16:34] Shouldn't it be Fix Released for karmic though? [16:37] does that version contains the build depends on the nvidia-common? [16:37] * pedro_ looking [16:37] I think it ought be fix released in jaunty: as it was claimed to be fied in 0.111.8, and jaunty-updates has 0.111.9 [16:38] right, so the jaunty task looks good, I'm curious about the karmic one [16:40] I think it can be Fix Released... [16:40] bdmurray: well the build depend (on nvidia-common) is also on the the karmic package, so yeap [16:40] fix released for me as well [16:41] cool [16:41] Sufficiently versioned build-depend? [16:41] seb128: Could you please remove me as an admin of the desktop bugs team? [16:43] bdmurray: changed [16:44] thanks === torkiano|afk is now known as torkiano [16:54] asac: is the intrepid n-m task for bug 327053 fixed? [16:54] Launchpad bug 327053 in network-manager "Intrepid -> Jaunty upgrade kills NetworkManager" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/327053 [17:08] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/aiccu/+bug/104590 <- its fixed but not yet in repo's ? [17:08] Launchpad bug 104590 in aiccu "AICCU halts during post-installation" [Medium,Fix committed] === yofel_ is now known as yofel [17:30] bdmurray thx, but i'am not able to renew it, i have got no email. [17:32] * leoquant takes a look at the launchpad page [17:52] Greetings bug-team --- strange sitiuation ... running hardy ... trying to install build-essential and it keeps saying that there are missing dependincies... I have a Ubuntu 8.04 server install and it is saying that the necessary version isn't available for g++ --- see this http://paste.ubuntu.com/193576/ -- been using ubuntu for 4 years and I know I have a very regular install - and regular package list ... what's broken --- I'd co [17:52] fccf: that's more appropriated for #ubuntu [17:52] #ubuntu-bugs is for triage [17:53] never the less I'll try to help [17:53] Hrm? No, that's a bug. [17:53] I think you are using the CD as the main reop [17:53] *repo [17:53] check your Software Sources and remove it [17:53] no I have removed the CD line .... Does it need to be there? [17:53] then you should be able to update and install [17:53] no need! [17:53] only if you do not have net [17:53] BUGabundo, But the CD should be self-contained: if build-essential is there, then all the dependencies ought be there (otherwise it's a bug) [17:53] bbl ! lunch [17:54] persia: there was a bug, that the package on the CD as not enough [17:54] Anyone else have a hardy system available? [17:54] but it was on pre-jaunty [17:54] BUGabundo, Ah. Annoying. [17:54] it happened to me a few times [17:54] already ran update - and I do have net and have checked everything I know [17:54] have to go. food awaits [17:54] eat up BUGabundo [17:59] persia: I have run apt-get update & apt-get upgrade ... at latest versions of everything hardy ... I actually think this is a bug based on 4 years as an ubuntu user ... I welcome any input [18:00] fccf, I think you're right it's a bug. I don't have a hardy system handy to verify (although I might in a couple hours). [18:01] Basically, the trick is determining what changed that broke it, and fixing it. [18:02] I will track down as much as I can in the next hour or so ... I will have some pastebins for the channel === ejat is now known as e-jat [18:08] start with these http://paste.ubuntu.com/193603/ http://paste.ubuntu.com/193607/ [18:10] fccf, Keep going down the stack until you find something that explains itself with more than "is not going to be installed" [18:11] I think I found it ... hold on [18:11] Couldn't find package g++-4.2-base [18:12] Aha! [18:12] Next, do an apt-cache search g++, and see what exists with -base. [18:14] i did apt-cache search g++ |grep base --- is that right? still a very long list [18:15] based base database ... [18:15] it is there gcc-4.2-base - The GNU Compiler Collection (base package) [18:16] Odd, I wouldn't have expected a gcc-4.2-base without a g++-4.2-base. [18:17] so it is named wrong in packages.gz? [18:17] No, more likely something else is wrong. [18:17] I'll keep digging [18:17] apt-cache rdepends g++-4.2-base may help [18:18] But I'm going to stop helping you with this now, in hopes that I can get to a hardy environment sooner, and help you more then :) [18:18] bdmurray: the upgrade issues are resolved without touching intrepid iirc [18:18] ok see you in a bit [18:20] lee@fccf-stream:~$ apt-cache rdepends g++-4.2-base /newline/ W: Unable to locate package g++-4.2-base [18:31] fccf, I got a hardy system up, although it turns out build-essential was already installed. Which package were you trying to install that pointed at g++-4.2-base ? [18:34] g++-4.2 [18:34] look at second paste [18:34] 193607\ [18:38] fccf, Which architecture are you using? [18:38] see also http://paste.ubuntu.com/193627/ [18:39] from uname -a Linux fccf-stream 2.6.24-24-server #1 SMP Wed Apr 15 16:36:01 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux [18:39] .24? [18:39] that's not jaunty is it ? [18:40] no this system is hardy [18:40] should be hardy [18:40] yeah [18:41] using cutting edge makes me loose track of older versions [18:41] fccf, Hrm. Try a dist-upgrade. I think you got caught by the 4.2.3 -> 4.2.4 change. [18:41] (which is a known and partially solved, bug). [18:41] does dist-upgrade take me to intrepid? [18:42] Not unless you change your sources.list. It just tries to upgrade harder. [18:42] fccf: no [18:42] You have -updates and -security enabled, right? [18:43] fccf: update-manager -c or -d does upgrade you [18:43] yes - lemme make make sure [18:43] IF, big IF, you have set it to Normal distro release and not LTS [18:44] whoops security and updates were not checked ... reloading now [18:44] I'm an Idoit .... thank you for your wasted time bug-team [18:44] fccf, What was the issue? [18:45] i didn't have security or updates enabled [18:45] that resolved everything === bdrung_ is now known as bdrung [18:45] You still shouldn't have gotten into that situation, but it appears it was the known issue with the 4.2.3 -> 4.2.4 mess, or at least that there's nothing else to fix. Thanks for confirming. [18:46] build-essental is now installed --- now to compile [18:47] again thanks guys [18:54] can some take a quick look at https://launchpad.net/bugs/386033 ? [18:54] Launchpad bug 386033 in macchanger "after install macchanger -> erro : subprocess post-install script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,New] [18:57] neat bug [18:57] the install failed, so the removal fails too [18:58] charlie-tca: actually I think install worked [18:58] let me ask [18:59] charlie-tca: user reports he can run it! [19:00] that's good! but this is install failing, isn't it? subprocess post-install script returned error exit status 1 [19:01] Something failed to complete [19:02] That's often a failure-to-configure, rather than a failure-to-install. [19:02] well he installed, used it [19:02] have him attach the log from /var/log/dpkg.log [19:02] when he tried to remove it, it failed [19:02] Since apport did not attach any [19:02] That might show what failed better [19:02] http://pastebin.com/m3d374ec3 [19:04] looks to me like it says it can't find it to remove it entirely. [19:04] Will synaptic package manager remove it? [19:05] I've asked the user to come here [19:05] hi alfatec [19:05] hi [19:05] alfatec: Will synaptic package manager remove it? [19:05] no [19:05] give the same error [19:06] uh-oh [19:07] alfatec: still have the apt-cache policy link around ? [19:07] alfatec: $ apt-cache policy macchanger [19:07] I can try to confirm it after I get this install done I'm running [19:07] * BUGabundo still feels pastebinit should come on default install [19:08] http://paste.ubuntu.com/193643/ === lakin_ is now known as lakin === micahg1 is now known as micahg [20:19] hey micahg1, great work on the hug day ;-) === YoBoY_Y is now known as YoBoY === pace_t_zulu_ is now known as pace_t_zulu [22:16] anyone here heard of the "hundredpapercuts" project?? [22:16] bcurtiswx-mini, minimally. All the bugs I've seen so far seemed to be asking for comment. [22:18] no idea what that is [22:18] persia, i have a bug that was randomly assigned to the one hunder paper cuts project and the launchpad page is very uninformational [22:18] anything against me removing that and asking what and why (since the changer didn't comment on the change?) [22:19] bcurtiswx-mini, I'd leave that to the hundredpapercuts folk. I believe they are encouraging people to add papercuts tasks to bugs. [22:19] what is a "papercut" ? [22:21] It's the one hundred easy fix bugs to be done by release of karmic [22:22] there was something about it on planet recently [22:22] bcurtiswx-mini: if you remove it may not get fixed for karmic, marking it means it will likely be fixed [22:23] at least aiui [22:23] hmm, ok.. just had red flag going up in my mind, because the person who assigned this bug to the paper cut project has almost no affiliations and i didn't know what papercutproject was [22:23] no big deal apparently :) thx [22:24] I don't understand why they created a project though [22:24] * calc has no idea how its implemented [22:24] bdmurray: isn't it being run by ivanca/ [22:24] er ? [22:24] bug #359740 is the bug im talking about [22:24] Launchpad bug 359740 in gstreamer0.10 "Volume control should change slower when loud and faster when silent " [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/359740 [22:25] hmm i though the papercuts was supposed to just be a tag, but i haven't been following it closely [22:26] I'm not sure all the papercuts will get "fixed", but I presume they'll all at least get more attention than they would otherwise. [22:26] but there are 80 open bugs with that task so i guess it is the way they are doing it [22:27] * persia is reminded of the phrase "death by a thousand cuts" [22:27] persia: :)) [23:04] bdmurray, ping -- please see http://paste.ubuntu.com/193807/, this is how it is getting to be [23:04] hggdh: outstanding! [23:05] still some cleanup to do, turned out to be more weird than I expected... [23:07] does LP edge allow more than one file uploaded at a time? [23:08] not edge or production [23:08] so I guess I have to attach them 1 at a time [23:09] unless apport-collect gets what you want [23:09] nope, it's pngs [23:10] micahg: used to do [23:10] but theirs is /was a bug [23:11] BUGabundo: can you confirm 386132? [23:11] oops [23:11] bug 386132 [23:11] Launchpad bug 386132 in firefox-3.5 "Firefox 3.5 renders certain pngs with wrong colors" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/386132 [23:12] LOLOL [23:12] its BLUE [23:13] try it in FF 3.0 [23:13] testing [23:14] works [23:14] :) [23:15] micahg: confirmed [23:16] let me test opera and chormium [23:16] BUGabundo: can you confirm in LP? [23:16] it's my bug :) [23:16] grr [23:16] doesn't show the full page on chromium [23:16] OLOLOL [23:17] humm red is redish on chromium [23:18] micahg: humm [23:18] wait soemthig wrong here [23:18] you mean just the PNG or the full palet? [23:18] cause the pngs alone show OK [23:18] png [23:18] where? [23:19] well amrlima just said he fixed that same bug [23:19] but he lost link [23:19] asked him to come here [23:19] http://launchpadlibrarian.net/27796267/square_glass_green.png [23:19] this is GREEN [23:20] http://launchpadlibrarian.net/27796158/ff3.5Display.png [23:20] this is blue [23:21] so micahg I can't be sure I can confirm the bug [23:21] BUGabundo: why not? [23:21] it shows green for you in FF3.6? [23:21] I'm confused [23:21] yes [23:21] http://launchpadlibrarian.net/27796267/square_glass_green.png [23:21] does [23:21] http://launchpadlibrarian.net/27796158/ff3.5Display.png [23:21] doesn't! [23:22] BUGabundo: micahg if you change in about:config just change gfx.color_management_mode from 2 to 0 [23:22] BUGabundo: the second one was a png I took of the display [23:22] it shouldn't change [23:22] i think png's get back to normal [23:22] the 3.5 is BLUE [23:22] the green png is a scale of green [23:23] amrlima: do I have to restart FF? [23:23] nope [23:23] about:config is usually real time [23:23] can't remember [23:23] didn't work in 3.5, let me try 3.6 [23:24] micahg: try to restart [23:24] ok [23:24] let me test 3.5 [23:25] works :) [23:25] great :) [23:25] so now what? [23:25] Isn't it still a bug? [23:25] what does that setting do? [23:26] is it ati driver only? [23:26] looks the same to me on 3.5 [23:26] nvidia here [23:26] same with what BUGabundo [23:26] BUGabundo: did you make the setting change? [23:26] or by default was it ok? [23:27] I have ati [23:27] I did not change my about:config [23:27] ok [23:27] I had the bug only with this pc [23:27] amrlima: is that the only {PC with ati? [23:27] yes , the other is nvidia [23:28] amrlima: gfx color managerment is disabled in ff3.0 [23:28] UnreportableReason: This is not a genuine Ubuntu package [23:28] LOVE this ^^^^^ [23:29] It's not, it's from the dailies :) [23:30] why can I see the attachements without login !?!?! [23:30] BUGabundo: it's always been like that i think.. [23:33] never noticed [23:33] I'm always logdin [23:48] BUGabundo: it's already upstream [23:48] mozilla bug 490537 [23:48] Mozilla bug 490537 in GFX: Color Management "Colors in some PNG images are severely wrong" [Major,Unconfirmed] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=490537 [23:49] hggdh: can I mark my own bug triaged without confirmation if I found it upstream? [23:50] Yes, that's reasonable. [23:50] yes [23:50] ok, also would you classify a color rendering issue as medium in firefox or high? [23:51] does it block the user from seeing the frames? [23:51] https://bug490537.bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=374939 [23:52] for me it was just a color change [23:52] but was counterintuitive in my web app [23:52] ugh! [23:52] real bad... I would go with high... [23:53] hggdh: no [23:53] no? [23:53] doesn't affect defaut browser [23:53] what? [23:53] it sure does in ff3.5 [23:53] karmic still has 3.0 as default [23:53] I think [23:53] what BUGabundo means is ff3.5 is not the default appl [23:53] should change to 3.5 once final hit [23:54] yes, but importance is per app [23:54] hggdh: yep [23:54] ah [23:54] isn't it per audience? [23:54] still, it is worth it -- 3.5 is the replacement-to-be [23:54] yeah [23:54] medium ? [23:54] Has a severe impact on a small portion of Ubuntu users (estimated) [23:54] ? [23:55] will have a severe impact later on... OTOH, this will be fixed upstream, so we can go with medium [23:55] ok [23:55] oy vey [23:55] I was thinking medium to begin with [23:55] only on ATI !? [23:55] yeah, so [23:55] so not that big audience [23:55] I guess... then again if I was affected... it would be bad [23:55] ?? [23:56] they are a major vendor [23:56] python regular expressions are... weird... [23:56] It's at medium [23:56] if FF3.5 becomes default and it's not fixed, I'll move to high [23:56] micahg: s/if/when/ [23:57] BUGabundo: assuming it gets released before October :) [23:58] ahhaha