[15:03] <persia> Anyone here for the Java meeting?
[15:04] <ttx> o/
[15:06] <persia> RIght then.  Let's get started.
[15:07] <persia> I forget to prepare an agenda for this week, but the standing agenda is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JavaTeam/Meeting (but I'm not prepared to discuss the leftover items).
[15:07] <persia> Anyone else have anything they'd like to raise?
[15:07] <ttx> nope
[15:09] <persia> Right then.  I'll try to be less surprised next week :)
[15:09] <persia> meeting adjourned.
[15:09]  * MenZa hugs persia 
[15:57] <Crazyguy> persia, that was one interesting meeting! :)
[15:57] <persia> Crazyguy, Well, that's what happens when one fails to prepare.  Always better to plan ahead.
[15:58] <Crazyguy> indeed
[16:33] <Laney> .sb e
[16:34] <Laney> whoops
[16:51] <xerox1> am I too late for the meeting? here since 1,5 hours but no discussions at all
[16:52] <czajkowski> 15:09 < persia> meeting adjourned
[16:53] <xerox1> czajkowski, ok thx
[16:53] <xerox1> any new date for it?
[16:53] <czajkowski> xerox1: no idea sorry,
[16:53] <xerox1> ok
[16:55] <persia> xerox1, Which meeting?
[16:55] <xerox1> bug squad
[16:57] <persia> I think you're about 22 hours late, but I could be mistaken.  You might be early.
[16:57] <xerox1> hm, maybe i have written down a wrong date
[18:03] <highvoltage> hi!
[18:04] <LaserJock> everybody here?
[18:05] <LaserJock> hmm
[18:06] <erieslabnx> many are here :)
[18:07] <highvoltage> LaserJock: if we have a very low turnout may I suggest that we do something more impromptu later on?
[18:07]  * ogra pretends he's not here  .... (in a conf call but lurking from time to time)
[18:07] <LaserJock> highvoltage: right
[18:29] <stgraber> heya
[21:35] <czajkowski> anyone knoe when the next meeting  for approval for locos is on ?
[21:41] <boredandblogging> czajkowski: JanC is about post that info
[21:41] <czajkowski> aye thanks asked in -locoteams
[21:42] <czajkowski> we're all in pub having a meeeting
[22:00] <ogra_> boo
[22:01] <NCommander> #startmeetin
[22:01] <NCommander> #startmeeting
[22:02] <MootBot> Meeting started at 16:01. The chair is NCommander.
[22:02] <MootBot> Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE]
[22:02] <ogra_> :P
[22:02] <ogra_> anyone else here apart from us two ?
[22:02] <NCommander> [topic] Roll Call
[22:02] <MootBot> New Topic:  Roll Call
[22:02] <NCommander> I'm here, ogra's here
[22:02] <NCommander> if your not here, say I
[22:02] <dyfet> Im here...
[22:02] <ogra_> lool, plars and davidm are travelling :)
[22:03] <ogra_> GrueMaster, awake ?
[22:03] <NCommander> do we have a quorum requirement for these meetings?
[22:03] <ogra_> nope
[22:03] <NCommander> no StevenK
[22:04] <ogra_> lets just rush over the agenda and actions ...
[22:04] <NCommander> [link] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileTeam/Meeting/2009/20090611
[22:04] <MootBot> LINK received:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileTeam/Meeting/2009/20090611
[22:04] <NCommander> [link] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileTeam/Roadmap
[22:04] <ogra_> spec deadline is next week afaik
[22:04] <MootBot> LINK received:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileTeam/Roadmap
[22:04] <ogra_> (then they need to d)
[22:04] <NCommander> [topic] NCommander's action items
[22:04] <MootBot> New Topic:  NCommander's action items
[22:04] <ogra_> (then they need to be approved)
[22:05] <NCommander> I received no proposals for handling bugs
[22:05] <ogra_> weird, this system swallows half of my typing
[22:05] <NCommander> co on vnc4 and linux bug (also on roadmap)
[22:05] <ogra_> well, we agreed on a single tag
[22:05] <ogra_> and plars already cleaned up
[22:05] <NCommander> ogra_, right, that I got, but I meant w.r.t. to subscribing teams
[22:05] <NCommander> Which is what I was accepting proposals for
[22:06] <ogra_> well, give it another week and probably send around another reminder mail
[22:06] <NCommander> yup
[22:06] <NCommander> I've been looking at the thunderbird 2 segfault. Its a bug dying deep within the depths of TB (and will be non-trivial to fix)
[22:06] <ogra_> yeah
[22:06] <NCommander> I've confirmed though upstream snapshots are unaffected.
[22:06] <ogra_> i discussed with asac
[22:06] <NCommander> ogra, seems I missed that discussion
[22:07] <ogra_> we'll pull TB3 into univery case
[22:07] <ogra_> tsk
[22:07] <ogra_> *universe
[22:07] <ogra_> in any case
[22:07] <NCommander> so c/o on the thunderbird segfault, but I will talk with lool if we *really* care enough to fix this; its got a high risk of time sinkyness
[22:07] <NCommander> [topic] ogra's action items
[22:07] <MootBot> New Topic:  ogra's action items
[22:07]  * ogra_ sighs about his typing going nowhere
[22:08] <ogra_> i havent reviewed pm-dashboard yet
[22:08] <ogra_> will do so tomorrow
[22:08] <NCommander> so a c/p
[22:08] <NCommander> er, c/o
[22:08] <ogra_> way to many calls this week
[22:08] <NCommander> I'm going to skip spec review. Too few people, and only ogra put stuff on the roadmap (and I got no emails from anyone, nor time estimates as requested from David)
[22:08] <ogra_> right
[22:08] <NCommander> We might need to do an ad-hoc meeting this week to nail it out, as feature deadline is coming up
[22:09] <ogra_> and my specs are not finished, i only put them up on the roadmap yet
[22:09] <NCommander> Will discuss with David, and fire an email to the mailing list; I *really* don't want to let this slide yet another week
[22:09] <ogra_> yeah
[22:09] <ogra_> i'll be off on monday (fyi)
[22:09] <NCommander> [topic] Discussion and handling of ARM bugs
[22:09] <MootBot> New Topic:  Discussion and handling of ARM bugs
[22:09] <NCommander> that's a c/o
[22:09] <ogra_> yeah
[22:09] <NCommander> (ENOPEOPLE]
[22:09] <NCommander> Again with Roadmap construction
[22:09] <NCommander> [topic] Any other business
[22:09] <MootBot> New Topic:  Any other business
[22:10] <ogra_> none from me
[22:10] <NCommander> none here
[22:10] <NCommander> I thnk we can call this meeting done
[22:10] <ogra_> dyfet, anything ?
[22:10] <dyfet> Nope
[22:10] <dyfet> Yes...actually...
[22:10] <ogra_> shoot
[22:10] <NCommander> (there goes the dream of a 10 minute meeting)
[22:10] <dyfet> NCommander: I do appologize for not getting back to you on specs
[22:10] <ogra_> :P
[22:10] <NCommander> dyfet, np on that, no one responded, so no issue
[22:11] <NCommander> I'm just channeling persia's spec drum
[22:11] <ogra_> heh
[22:11] <NCommander> I'll be yelling at people this week on that
[22:11] <NCommander> Any other business?
[22:11] <GrueMaster> I'm back.  Distracted by food.
[22:11]  * NCommander has none
[22:11] <NCommander> GrueMaster, good, the meeting just about over
[22:11] <ogra_> food is a valid reason
[22:11] <GrueMaster> Glad I didn't miss anything.  :P
[22:11] <persia> The spec drum is the reward for the effort of sending out meeting announcements :p
[22:11] <ogra_> GrueMaster, anything you want to breing up ?
[22:11] <NCommander> persia, the spec drum is a burden, not a blessing
[22:12] <ogra_> *bring
[22:12] <GrueMaster> nope.
[22:12] <NCommander> Cool
[22:12] <NCommander> I call this meeting to a close in 3
[22:12] <NCommander> 2
[22:12] <NCommander> 1
[22:12] <NCommander> #endmeeting
[22:12] <MootBot> Meeting finished at 16:12.
[22:12] <ogra_> NCommander, its a honor not a burden :)
[22:12] <NCommander> ogra_, mep :-P
[22:13]  * ogra_ goes back to do evening things ... well, rather late night things .... bye
[22:13] <NCommander> ogra_, I highly recommend sleep
[22:13] <ogra_> that too
[22:13]  * NCommander is kinda expecting StevenK to pop online, and wonder why we're all quiet
[22:13] <NCommander> :-)
[22:14] <ogra_> but susie didnt see much of me today ... i have to commit to the social side a bit first :)
[22:14] <ogra_> night all
[22:14] <NCommander> ogra_, I recommend flowers and dinner. night!
[22:14] <NCommander> argh