[00:11] <Schlabby> what are the file permissions for .ssh and authorized_keys, matthewmpp?
[00:13] <Schlabby> $ ls -ld .ssh
[00:13] <Schlabby> drwx------ 2 username username 4096 2009-04-03 21:03 .ssh
[00:14] <Schlabby> $ ls -l authorized_keys
[00:14] <Schlabby> -rw------- 1 username username1687 2009-02-16 14:54 authorized_keys
[00:19] <nick_schembri> matthewmpp: look in authorized_keys the key should start may have been added to the end of another key
[00:22] <nick_schembri> matthewmpp: my auth file is 644, rw.r.r
[00:23] <diffra> yeah, security on authorized_keys i don't think is terribly important, since it's just a hash.
[00:27] <Schlabby> tested a chmod 777 on .ssh/ =>  Authentication refused: bad ownership or modes for directory
[00:31] <nick_schembri> Schlabby: im on a slow connection the man page talks about setting the mode
[00:31] <Schlabby> ah.. I'm using StrictModes yes everywhere ;-)
[00:32] <diffra> *shrug* schlabby, you should have specific permissions on .ssh and it's subfiles
[00:32] <diffra> the slicehost article explains it in perfect detail
[00:32] <diffra> ... that *shrug* was meant for another channel.  sry.
[00:33] <pschulz01> Morning all
[00:33] <nick_schembri> Schlabby: so do i. you want strictmodes
[00:33] <nick_schembri> bye
[00:35] <Schlabby> yes i know. i do have them. i tried to point matthewmpp in the direction to check his permissions
[00:35] <diffra> pschulz01: I'm curious, morning where?
[00:40] <pschulz01> diffra: Adelaide, Australia
[00:40] <pschulz01> .. and it looks like to moon is still in one piece.
[00:41] <ajmitch> pschulz01: I'd hope so
[00:42] <pschulz01> ajmitch: I was watching (beautiful clear skys) but saw nothing..
[00:42] <ajmitch> pschulz01: Maybe someone stole it
[00:45] <diffra> pschulz01: cool!  it's a cloudy afternoon here in kauai.
[00:53] <ivoks> RoAkSoAx: ping
[00:54] <RoAkSoAx> ivoks, heya
[00:54] <ivoks> RoAkSoAx: what's up? :)
[00:54] <RoAkSoAx> ivoks, sorry about today.. i've been pretty much in and out all day :)
[00:54] <ivoks> no problem
[00:54] <RoAkSoAx> ivoks, and nothing much.. getting ready to travel this weekend
[00:54] <ivoks> i just wanted to give you a info...
[00:55] <ivoks> i packaged latest corosync and openais
[00:55] <ivoks> in next couple of days i'll package heartbeat and pacemaker
[00:55] <RoAkSoAx> ivoks, ok, I also have openais from the debian maintainer built on the PPA
[00:55] <ajmitch> yay for duplication! :)
[00:55] <ivoks> openais in debian is old
[00:56] <RoAkSoAx> ivoks, 0.96 ?
[00:56] <ivoks> RoAkSoAx: how did you build it without corosync?
[00:56] <RoAkSoAx> ivoks, this is the list of packages that the Debian maintainer is working with: http://people.debian.org/~madkiss/ha/dists/sid/main/source/
[00:56] <ivoks> oh, there's corosync :)
[00:56] <RoAkSoAx> ivoks, i ment, openais-legacy
[00:57] <RoAkSoAx> ivoks, yeah but it's missing the source file.. I'm gonna ask for it tomorrow to upload it to the PPA
[00:57] <ivoks> https://edge.launchpad.net/~ivoks/+archive/ppa
[00:57] <ajmitch> there's corosync as a .dsc & diff.gz, but not an orig.tar.gz in there, which hopefully is the same as upstream
[00:57] <ajmitch> RoAkSoAx: try & rename the upstream tarball & use it as the orig.tar.gz then
[00:58] <ivoks> there's no point in duplicating the work :)
[00:58] <RoAkSoAx> ivoks, i've been talking with madkiss, since he is working on those packages, and he told me that it's just a matter of time to get heartbeat on unstable.. and that pacemaker has the state as new and should be hitting experimental really soon
[00:58] <ivoks> i'll check out debian packages
[00:58] <RoAkSoAx> ajmitch, yep. i'll try that :)
[00:59] <ivoks> RoAkSoAx: did you offer help with packaging and testing?
[00:59] <ivoks> lol, it's ftbs again
[01:00] <RoAkSoAx> ivoks, I already have most of the packages from debian here: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-ha/+archive/ppa , we njust need openais and corosync, but since the corosync .tar.gz is not there, openais would not build.
[01:00] <ivoks> argh... groff
[01:00] <RoAkSoAx> ivoks, what FTBS is pacemaker-mgmt-* which are alpha packages
[01:00] <RoAkSoAx> ivoks, I offer help testing the packages and I already discovered a couple of bugs, one was in heartbeat and it's already fixed
[01:01] <ivoks> ok
[01:01] <RoAkSoAx> ivoks, and madkiss told me that he was going to work tomorrow on the pacemaker-mgmt-*
[01:01] <ivoks> i'll upload openais and corosync then
[01:01] <RoAkSoAx> ivoks, ok cool :)
[01:01] <RoAkSoAx> ivoks, do It to the ubuntu-ha PPA
[01:01] <ivoks> 3 hours... wasted... for nothing :)
[01:02] <ivoks> and that's from 11PM to 2AM
[01:02] <ivoks> grrr
[01:02] <ewook> ivoks: I sense some, similarities in our nicks :p
[01:02] <RoAkSoAx> ivoks, hahahah here's my dput entry for the ubuntu-ha PPA: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/193085/
[01:02] <ivoks> ewook: yes, you are a copycat :)
[01:03] <ewook> ivoks: *_* Am Just Special!
[01:03] <ewook> oops. forgot the I
[01:05] <mathiaz> hi ivoks !
[01:05] <ivoks> mathiaz: hi
[01:05] <RoAkSoAx> ivoks, btw... we also need test cases on implementing sample clusters and after that I'll do a blog post calling for help :=)
[01:05] <ewook> clusters of what?
[01:05] <ivoks> RoAkSoAx: let's build all packages first :)
[01:05] <ivoks> oh no...
[01:05] <ivoks> debian/rules is hell
[01:05] <RoAkSoAx> hahaha
[01:05] <ivoks> are we sure this guy knows what he's doing?
[01:05] <ajmitch> ivoks: the sort of hell you love...
[01:05] <mathiaz> RoAkSoAx: the first step to write a testcase is usually to write up some documentation
[01:05] <ivoks> he has two she-bangs
[01:05] <ajmitch> interesting
[01:05] <ivoks> this is wrong wrong wrong
[01:05] <mathiaz> RoAkSoAx: the same way you've used the openvpn documentation from the help wiki to test your openvpn merge
[01:05] <ajmitch> ivoks: which package?
[01:06] <ivoks> ajmitch: http://people.debian.org/~madkiss/ha/dists/sid/main/source/corosync_0.97-2.diff.gz
[01:06] <RoAkSoAx> ivoks, well I talked to horms and he told me that madkiss (Martin Loschwitz) was doing the work with the packages
[01:06] <ivoks> ajmitch: look at debian/rules
[01:06] <RoAkSoAx> mathiaz, yep.. I already have the documentation to test heartbeat, i just need to test it in a heartbeat/pacemaker config :)
[01:06] <ajmitch> ivoks: I see only one in this diff viewer
[01:07] <ivoks> maybe i did something wrong
[01:07] <ajmitch> dunno, I just opened in archive viewer, then double click on the diff inside
[01:07] <mathiaz> RoAkSoAx: awesome - be sure to put that in a wiki page on help.ubuntu.com so that other can also improve on your work
[01:07] <ajmitch> jaunty makes my life easy ;)
[01:07] <RoAkSoAx> mathiaz, will do :)
[01:08] <ivoks> ah... i had dirty orig.tar.gz
[01:08] <RoAkSoAx> ivoks, anyways.. what about the mentorship... any news/tasks ?
[01:09] <ivoks> RoAkSoAx: christope didn't respond to my email yet :/
[01:09] <mathiaz> ivoks: you said 2:00 AM was the time at your place?
[01:09] <ivoks> mathiaz: yup
[01:09] <ajmitch> and it's just gone lunchtime here
[01:09] <mathiaz> ivoks: could that be related in any ways to your dirty .orig.tar.gz?
[01:09] <ivoks> mathiaz: most probably :D
[01:10] <RoAkSoAx> ivoks, oki then... anyways i'll be unavailable to work on anything till Wednesday
[01:11] <ivoks> RoAkSoAx: ok
[01:11] <ivoks> RoAkSoAx: when do you plan to request motu status?
[01:12] <RoAkSoAx> ivoks, as soon as possible.. which means as soon as I can get everything understood and be good in doing it :)
[01:12] <ivoks> is there something you don't understand?
[01:12] <RoAkSoAx> i do have a couple of months to work on it pretty much full time
[01:12] <ivoks> or would like to work on it
[01:12] <ivoks> what's debian's position on libssl?
[01:13] <RoAkSoAx> ivoks, well i have many doubts on how to do things... :)
[01:13] <ivoks> i was under impression that they consider is non free
[01:13] <ivoks> it
[01:14] <RoAkSoAx> ivoks, I guess we can work those things.. I'll make a list of things that I really want to understand  :) btw...
[01:15] <ivoks> great
[01:15] <RoAkSoAx> how do I package and app that has both a kernel module, and a user space daemon :)
[01:15] <ivoks> corosync uploaded
[01:15] <RoAkSoAx> from scratch I mean
[01:16] <RoAkSoAx> ivoks, oh btw.. sorry for the PPA's spam :)
[01:16] <ivoks> no problem ;)
[01:17] <RoAkSoAx> ivoks, ok so I more or less know what things I would like to do: package from scratch, bug fixing, and a little more of QA :)
[01:17] <ivoks> openais build-depens: debhelper
[01:17] <ivoks> i'm quite sure that's not enough :)
[01:21] <RoAkSoAx> ivoks, well i'm off for lunch... i'll make the list on what I would like to work or if I need help if you're not around then :)
[01:21] <RoAkSoAx> talk you later
[01:21] <RoAkSoAx> take care
[01:21] <ivoks> bye
[01:33] <ivoks> mathiaz: we should finish spec drafts by the end of the week?
[01:33] <mathiaz> ivoks: yes - getting them ready in a state that dendrobates can review them
[01:33] <ivoks> ok
[01:33] <mathiaz> ivoks: flesh out the design section and a rough guide for implementation
[01:34] <ivoks> luckily, tomorrow is a holiday :)
[01:37] <ivoks> well... looks like we have a cluster stack :)
[01:55] <ivoks> well, good night everybody
[02:02] <tomsdale> mathiaz: I know it's not a server question but you were very knowledgable yesterday regarding a dns issue and I'm really stuck. Can I have a custom domain resoltution for an internet Address in my /etc/hosts which will be used by firefox?
[02:03] <ivoks> yes
[02:03] <tomsdale> or any other browser for that matter. background is that I need to recover a hacked website which seems blacklisted with all dnses.
[02:03] <ivoks> but you have to restart firefox once you change it
[02:04] <tomsdale> I tried this - rebooted but no luck. I'm on kubuntu btw but I 8.04tried it also on ubuntu
[02:04] <tomsdale> not even lynx resolves after the /etc/hosts but if I go by IP I can't access a virtual host.
[02:05] <ivoks> kubuntu and ubuntu are the same thing
[02:05] <ivoks> it's only visual part that's different
[02:06] <ivoks> maybe you didn't enter it right
[02:06] <ivoks> it should be:
[02:06] <ivoks> ip fqdn alias
[02:06] <ivoks> for example:
[02:06] <ivoks> 161.53.50.3 www.grad.hr gradec
[02:08] <ivoks> anyway... good night
[02:08] <tomsdale> thanks anyway. That's what I have btw
[02:08] <ivoks> then it works
[02:08] <ivoks> you can check with netstat -nat
[02:09] <ivoks> you'll see it's connecting to that ip
[02:10] <tomsdale> I think I got it. They must have taken the domain offline and the results I get are from the search.
[02:10] <mathiaz_> tomsdale: does ping site.example.com uses the correct IP address?
[02:11] <tomsdale> checking ....
[02:15] <tomsdale> ok - confirmed stupidity on my part. the virtual hosts are  under a different IP than the domain for the ftp. I inverted the addresses. there's nothing wrong with the /etc/hosts.
[02:16] <tomsdale> thanks mathiaz once again.
[02:17] <mathiaz> tomsdale: you're welcome :)
[02:56] <dastagg> Hi. I need some help setting up Postfix/Dovecot.
[02:56] <dastagg> I am following the instructions in the official docs but when I test
[02:57] <dastagg> I am not seeing 250 STARTTLS. I have looked in the logs and I don't
[02:57] <dastagg> see any errors so I not sure if this is normal or if I missed something.
[02:57] <dastagg> How can I tell if TLS is running?
[03:45] <ewook> dastagg: you more or less did.
[03:45] <snth> Does anyone have a full-ish log of this channel?
[03:46] <snth> Or is it accessible somewhere online?
[03:46] <dthacker> snth: possibly, how far back do you need?
[03:46] <snth> dthacker: Like a year maybe
[03:47] <dthacker> nope, sorry only have a few months
[03:47] <snth> 6months-ish?
[03:49] <dastagg> sorry, don't understand that
[03:50] <dastagg> does it mean that because I don't see TLSSTART that it isn't working?
[03:53] <dastagg> ewook: oops: I mean STARTTLS
[03:53] <ScottK> snth: Look on irclogs.ubuntu.com
[03:54] <ewook> dastagg: ya. you are prolly missing something. do a restart on postfix and look in the logs if you get anything to start with.
[03:54] <snth> ScottK: Sweet .. thanks
[03:56] <ewook> dastagg: did you acctually enable it in your main.cf?
[03:56] <ScottK> dastagg: If TLS is running, you're logs will have something like postfix/smtpd[18251]: setting up TLS connection from  when you try to connect.
[03:57] <dastagg> ewook: I'm doing a tail on mail.log but don't see any errors.
[03:59] <dastagg> and I did a line by line compare with the sample on the website.
[04:00] <dastagg> Other then two lines: session_cache_database and my hostname they are the same.
[04:03] <dastagg> Now I'm tail syslog, when I telnet in, I see a [5804] but not 18251
[04:04] <ewook> that's the pid.
[04:05] <ewook> or id.
[04:05] <ewook> to tired to think :P
[04:05] <ewook> what official docs where you following?
[04:05] <dastagg> The Ubuntu Official Documentation
[04:06] <ewook> got a link? :)
[04:07] <ScottK> dastagg: can you pastebin the output of postconf -n and the log snippet from when you telnet in?
[04:07] <dastagg> https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/serverguide/C/postfix.html
[04:08] <dastagg> I'm new to irc, can you point me to directions on how to do that please?
[04:11] <ScottK> !pastebin
[04:11] <ScottK> dastagg: ^^
[04:14] <ewook> prolly missing some lib.
[04:15] <dastagg> http://paste.ubuntu.com/193167 is the postconf -n output
[04:18] <dastagg> http://paste.ubuntu.com/193169 is telnet print
[04:27]  * ScottK looks
[04:28]  * ewook sleeps
[04:29] <ewook> good luck
[04:29] <dastagg> thanks!
[04:29] <ScottK> dastagg: I don't see "smtpd_use_tls = yes
[04:29] <ScottK> in your postconf -n.
[04:29] <dastagg> ScottK: line 20
[04:30] <dastagg> your right! thats smtp
[04:30] <dastagg> missing the d
[04:30] <ScottK> dastagg: I think that's likely your problem.
[04:30] <ScottK> Add that, restart postfix, and try again.
[04:35] <dastagg> ScottK: Nope, still not seeing the STARTTLS! :-(
[04:36] <ScottK> dastagg: OK.  What does /var/log/mail.log say about it?
[04:40] <dastagg> http://paste.ubuntu.com/193176 is the bottom of a cat of mail.log
[04:42] <dastagg> ScottK: but I don't see any errors but I'm new to this so I might not know it when I see it.
[04:42]  * ScottK looks
[04:45] <ScottK> dastagg: If TLS was working, there's a a log line that says "setting up TLS connection" right after the connect one.
[04:45] <ScottK> dastagg: You did create the TLS certs, right?
[04:45] <dastagg> I thought I followed the instructions carefully but....
[04:46] <dastagg> I am doing this in a xen virtual machine. I think I'll wipe it and start again.
[04:46] <ScottK> dastagg: I wouldn't
[04:46] <ScottK> What does ls -l /etc/ssl/certs/smtpd.crt produce.
[04:47] <ScottK> Unless you understand what went wrong, odds are you'll just have the same problem again.
[04:48] <dastagg> a listing of -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 725 2009-06-10 20:27 /etc/ssl/certs/smtpd.crt
[04:49] <dastagg> Well, that's true but there were a lot of lines to copy and paste. Maybe I missed one or messed it up.
[04:52] <ScottK> dastagg: I have a theory for you.
[04:52] <ScottK> Let me check something first though.
[04:53] <dastagg> ScottK: Okay, I'll wait.
[04:54] <ScottK> dastagg: See smtpd_banner = $myhostname ESMTP $mail_name (Ubuntu) in your main.cf.
[04:54] <dastagg> yes
[04:54] <ScottK> dastagg: See line 3 of http://paste.ubuntu.com/193169/
[04:55] <ScottK> When you are telnetting in, you aren't talking to the postfix we are modifying.
[04:56] <ScottK> dastagg: ^^^^
[04:56] <dastagg> what or where am I talking to then?
[04:57] <ScottK> Good question.
[04:57] <dastagg> ScottK: I have used both telnet mail.staggsystem.com and 192.168.10.52 and I get the same result.
[04:59] <ScottK> dantalizing: telnet mail.staggsystem.com is not reachable from here.
[04:59] <dastagg> could that be the 220 smtp.passthru ? and if so, where am I getting passed to ?
[05:00] <ScottK> Firewall?
[05:00] <dastagg> All this is still internal, on the local net
[05:02] <dastagg> I am using an IPCop firewall but there is a host mail.staggsystems and it is pointing to .52
[05:03] <ScottK> What happens if you telnet localhost 25 from inside the vm?
[05:05] <dastagg> well holy (well, you know what) That works! I see the banner and STARTTLS!
[05:05] <ScottK> OK, so you know your postfix is configured correctly.
[05:06] <ScottK> Now I'd try to do the same while logged into the host.
[05:06] <dastagg> See, I knew the "Official Documentation" was good! :-)
[05:06] <e-jat> :)
[05:07] <ScottK> What you have is either a networking proxy/firewall problem or a vm configuration problem.
[05:07] <dastagg> OKAY!
[05:07] <dastagg> Thank You! for the help!
[05:08] <ScottK> You're welcome.
[05:10] <dastagg> and I did telnet mail.staggsystems instead of localhost and that works also.
[05:11] <dastagg> Thanks again!
[05:12] <ScottK> You still need to figure out why it's not reachable from the outside.
[07:28] <pteague> anybody know if vmware server 2 still has that crappy browser plugin interface?
[07:29] <twb> pteague: AFAIK, it does
[07:33] <pteague> dang, cause i can't seem to find vmware 1.x anywhere
[07:34] <rags> wht is the default http server in ubuntu?
[07:34] <rags> or how can I find out?
[07:34] <diffra> apache
[07:34] <diffra> though, it doesn't install it by default, only if you select the LAMP package when installing
[07:35] <rags> diffra: oh...k..but there were lighttpd files aswell..
[07:35] <rags> how do I know which is active?
[07:35] <diffra> really?  lighttpd definitely isn't the default.  however, it's my personal choice.
[07:35] <diffra> sudo netstat -natp | grep 80 should work
[07:36] <diffra> it'll tell you what process is listening on port 80.
[07:36] <rags> hmm...then somethng else might have installed it...how do I know which is running..oh..k
[07:36] <rags> yup...apache2...thx
[07:37] <rags> ya it dhows ddwiki as well...so i guess tht's where Lighttpd came from
[07:38] <rags> I am trying to install smokeping on ubutu...I got the package...the install doc says to put the smokeping.cgi file in the cgi-bin folder...now where is this for apache? should I make a new folder under web root?
[07:39] <henkjan> rags: apt-get install smokeping
[07:40] <henkjan> after installation you can find smokeping in http://your.server.name/cgi-bin/smokeping.cgi
[07:41] <rags> henkjan: I did the apt-get install but it puts the file under /usr/lib/cgi-bin..
[07:42] <diffra> that's where apache reads /cgi-bin/ from
[07:42] <rags> so http://servr/smokeping.cgi should work right?..but it dosn't
[07:43] <diffra> as henkjan said, server/cgi-bin/smokeping.cgi
[07:43] <rags> ..oh....kk..will try tht..thx
[08:06] <ihtarlik> Does anyone know the name of the program that manages updates to configuration files so that default configs don't break custom ones?
[08:07] <ScottK> ihtarlik: What are you trying to accomplish?
[08:09] <ihtarlik> I remember that the program would tell upon running it if there were pending updates to config files.  I recently updated a program where I've edited the default config file in the previous version, but I want to check about defaults in the new version...
[08:11] <ScottK> It's part of the packaging system.  Part of dpkg I think.
[08:19] <ihtarlik> This is special and was introduced in Intrepid or Jaunty, for the server edition only
[08:22] <ihtarlik> Am I going nuts?  Does this program even exist?
[08:27] <diffra> you could download and unpack the new .deb and snag the config file that way..
[08:27] <ihtarlik> Ooooh, good idea
[08:27] <ihtarlik> Thanks!
[08:27] <soren> ihtarlik: If you've made local changes to a conffile, dpkg will ask you if you want to accept the new version or keep  your local changes or do the merge manually.
[08:27] <soren> ihtarlik: This has been the case for years and years.
[08:27] <soren> and years.
[08:29] <henkjan> ihtarlik: you mean etckeeper?
[08:32] <ihtarlik> No, etckeeper is for git and bzr specifically.
[08:32] <ihtarlik> This is for general conf files.
[08:38] <twb> ihtarlik: and darcs
[08:38] <ihtarlik> darcs?  I have not heard of this.
[08:38] <soren> It's a revision control system.
[08:38] <ihtarlik> Gotcha
[08:39] <ihtarlik> With git and bzr
[08:39] <twb> dpkg internally remembers the checksum at install time, the checksum of the file as it currently exists, and the checksum of the new conffile.  If all three differ, it will prompt you with a TWO-way merge between the current and new files.
[08:39] <twb> So it's damn handy, but etckeeper has a lot more grunt.
[08:39] <ihtarlik> twb: I remember setting up a program during the install of my server that changed the default behavior.  It no longer does that.
[08:39] <soren> dpkg doesn't merge anything.
[08:39] <twb> etckeeper allows you to answer questions like "why the hell is there a second swap entry in my fstab now?"
[08:40] <twb> soren: sorry, I mean that it puts both files there and asks for help from the user
[08:40] <twb> But it's not a three-way merge :-(
[08:40] <soren> It's not, no :(
[08:41] <soren> ihtarlik: Did this stop working after an upgrade?
[08:41] <ihtarlik> This is a secondary program run from the command line that identifies if there are newer conf files, and prompts for a merge.
[08:41] <ihtarlik> And no, I just forgot the command.
[08:41] <soren> ihtarlik: If you find it again, let me knwo.
[08:41] <twb> ihtarlik: you may be thinking of ucf, which does something similar for generated non-conffile files
[08:41] <soren> know, even.
[08:43] <ihtarlik> I'm tempted to setup a virtual box to reinstall the server on...
[08:44] <twb> Why virtualbox and not kvm?
[08:44] <ihtarlik> virtual box as in a virtualized computer, not in the specific environment
[08:45] <ihtarlik> Though I usually use virtual box when I'm in Windows 7
[08:46] <twb> Righto
[08:52] <ihtarlik> Gonna get some sleep, will look for that program tomorrow...  Good night all
[09:08] <twb> Sleep is a dangerous vice
[10:29] <kj4> hello all
[11:54] <sydneyguy> Hail all
[13:18] <sydneyguy> Is the hostname is considered part of FQDN?
[13:18] <soren> Sure.
[13:19] <soren> fqdn is the fully qualified domain name, so it's the hostname and the domain name.
[13:21] <sydneyguy> ok
[13:21] <sydneyguy> If my hostname is server01 and my domain is test.com
[13:21] <sydneyguy> mine is server01.test.com
[13:21] <sydneyguy> but how I configure dns .. it is gonna be ns.server01.test.com???
[13:22] <soren> I don't understand the question.
[13:23] <sydneyguy> I am trying to configure my ubuntu server to act as the master dns server
[13:24] <sydneyguy> Where I should put the FQDN and when I should put only the domain name .. when I add the ns.
[13:24] <sydneyguy> Like :
[13:24] <sydneyguy> ;
[13:24] <sydneyguy> ; BIND data file for local loopback interface
[13:24] <sydneyguy> ;
[13:24] <sydneyguy> $TTL    604800
[13:24] <sydneyguy> @       IN      SOA     ns.example.com. root.example.com. (
[13:24] <sydneyguy> There r few files I have to configure.. and they are:
[13:25] <sydneyguy> 1-    /etc/bind/named.conf.options
[13:25] <sydneyguy> 2- /etc/bind/named.conf.local
[13:25] <sydneyguy> 3-  /etc/bind/db.example.com
[13:26] <sydneyguy> 3-  /etc/bind/db.10
[13:27] <sydneyguy> example.com gonna be test.com .. my FQDN is server01.test.com and not test.com
[13:27] <sydneyguy> so????
[13:29] <ivoks> this is why we need directory service
[13:29] <ivoks> lots of people want to use ubuntu, but don't have knowledge of services they want to setup
[13:30] <ivoks> sydneyguy: have you ever configured bind before?
[13:30] <soren> sydneyguy: Please use a pastebin for stuff like that.
[13:32] <sydneyguy> no
[13:33] <sydneyguy> when they said ns.example.com .. is their dns server is called ns so the FQDN for the dns sever is ns.example.com ..
[13:33] <sydneyguy> so mine is called server01 .. so my FQDN is server01.example.com and not ns.server01.example.com in the file
[13:34] <ivoks> do you control DNS for example.com?
[13:34] <soren> I somehow doubt it.
[13:35] <ivoks> cause, i really don't understand what you are trying to accomplish
[13:35] <soren> These do not sound like questions from someone who works for ICANN :)
[13:35] <ivoks> :)
[13:41] <ivoks> i don't get it...
[13:42] <ivoks> package builds on my machine, but doesn't on ppa
[13:42] <ivoks> and it's not building issue
[13:43] <soren> ivoks: Eh?
[13:43] <ivoks> soren: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/27777337/buildlog_ubuntu-karmic-amd64.openais-legacy_0.80.5%2Bsvn20090606-1ubuntu3_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[13:43] <ivoks> install: cannot stat `lib/libais.so.2.*': No such file or directory
[13:44] <soren> ivoks: It's called lib/libais.so.2
[13:44] <soren> libais.so.2.* are in lib/../
[13:44] <soren> Or so it seems, based on:
[13:44] <soren> ln -sf libais.so.2.0.0 lib/libais.so.2
[13:45] <soren> Which is about 30 lines further up.
[13:45] <ivoks> hm
[13:45] <ivoks> install -m 755 lib/libais.so.2.* /home/ivoks/ClusterStack/openais-legacy-0.80.5+svn20090606/debian/tmp//usr/lib/openais
[13:46] <ivoks> works here :/
[13:46] <ivoks> and there is libais.so.2.0.0
[13:54] <ivoks> cc1: warnings being treated as errors
[13:54] <ivoks> grrr
[14:09] <ivoks> oh...
[14:16] <sommer> ya!!!
[15:09] <Ethos> anyone know how to convert a physical ubuntu server to a virtual server?
[15:10] <soren> Ethos: Yes. Carefully.
[15:10] <Ethos> heh
[15:11] <Ethos> the free convertor doesn't do it
[15:11] <soren> Ethos: It depends, really. What's it running?
[15:11] <soren> "the free converter"?
[15:11] <Ethos> Vmware vcentre convertor
[15:11] <Ethos> The server is running ubuntu 8.10 server
[15:13] <soren> I don't know how VMWare does it.
[15:16] <pmatulis> anyone here familiar with mode 4 ethernet bonding?
[15:17] <soren> pmatulis: What's the problem?
[15:17] <pmatulis> i have a ubuntu box with bonded devices and i want to connect them directly to an iESX server
[15:17] <soren> Ok.
[15:17] <drurew> can anyone point me at a how to network two local servers with no switch ?
[15:17] <pmatulis> but i'm not sure about any special configuration on the ESX side
[15:18] <soren> pmatulis: You do the same on the other end.
[15:18] <pmatulis> soren: and that's it?
[15:18] <soren> pmatulis: As far as I know, yes.
[15:19] <pmatulis> soren: mode 4 doesn't support unplugging (failover) right?  they are either both on or both off?
[15:20] <soren> pmatulis: I'm not sure, to be honest.
[15:20] <RoAk> ivoks: heya!
[15:20] <pmatulis> soren: ok
[15:21] <ivoks> RoAk: hi
[15:21] <ivoks> RoAk: long story short; we'll drop those packages from debian maintainer
[15:22] <ivoks> they are of very low quality
[15:22] <ivoks> we'll provide them with better packages :)
[15:22] <RoAk> ivoks: hah really??? haha ok
[15:22] <ivoks> yes
[15:22] <RoAk> ivoks: every package?
[15:22] <ivoks> openais and crosync have significant mistakes
[15:22] <ivoks> openais-legacy also couple of errors
[15:22] <soren> pmatulis: Oh, hang on. Are you connected directly to the other end, or through a switch?
[15:22] <ivoks> heartbeat is ok
[15:23] <RoAk> ivoks: what about pacemaker
[15:23] <pmatulis> soren: directly
[15:23] <ivoks> RoAk: haven't looked at it yet
[15:23] <soren> pmatulis: Ok, good.
[15:23] <ivoks> i hate lpia
[15:23] <pmatulis> soren: i did read that a switch needs to be configured, that's why i'm asking about this direct setup
[15:24] <RoAk> ivoks: hahaha well I need to go to the doctor. be back later :) let me know if there's anything I can do later on today.
[15:25] <ivoks> ok
[15:25] <RoAk> bye
[15:34] <drurew> I am trying to network 2 servers without a switch, server #1 has an eth1 and eth2 , server #2 has an eth port as well (strangly it is listed as eth27) I would like to use server #1 as a proxy for server #2. how should I go about configuring this
[15:34] <ivoks> give them ip addresses?
[15:35] <drurew> ivoks: commands are helpfull :)
[15:36] <ivoks> heh
[15:36] <ivoks> w3m www.google.com
[15:36] <ivoks> :)
[15:36] <drurew> ;)
[15:36] <ivoks> set up /etc/network/interfaces
[15:37] <ivoks> man interfaces - man stands for manual
[15:37] <drurew> awsome
[15:37] <drurew> thanks
[15:37] <drurew> or info
[15:37] <ivoks> there are couple of examples
[15:38] <drurew> thanks ivoks
[15:39] <ivoks> learn to use 'man'
[15:39] <ivoks> that's the best and the fastest help you can get on unix
[16:05] <kblin> hi folks
[16:08] <kblin> I'm running a bunch of ubuntu server VMs in kvm for testing, and I'd like to suspend them to disk rather than shutting them down. I vaguely remember that I could echo something into /proc or /sys to trigger a suspend to disk, but I forgot whare this did go. any hints?
[16:11] <jpds> sudo pm-suspend ?
[16:12] <Authority> does dpkg have a similar function to 'rpm -V' (verify integrity of installed package)?
[16:16] <kblin> jpds: ah, right direction.. pm-hibernate seems to be the one :)
[16:16] <jpds> Authority: http://www.euglug.org/pipermail/euglug/2004-August/001230.html
[16:17] <Authority> jpds: thanks
[16:17] <kblin> jpds: perfect, thanks alot :)
[16:19] <jpds> No problem.
[16:30] <Ethos> How can I format all partitions / data in ubuntu?
[16:30] <Ethos> Literally every deleted
[16:45] <troglobyte> I have a postfix/courier mail server set up.  It will work fine for a period of time then fail with permissions issues in Maildir/tmp.
[16:45] <troglobyte> /home/user/Maildir/tmp/1244734481.P2935.domain.net: Permission denied
[16:46] <troglobyte> sometimes a reboot will clear it up.  other times not.
[16:47] <troglobyte> any ideas as to what might cause this delayed failure?
[16:51] <jmedina> troglobyte: who is writing to the mailbox?
[16:51] <jmedina> postfix local, virtual, maildrop?
[16:52] <jmedina> you need to check you logs to define what process is actuallly writing to the mailbox
[16:52] <troglobyte> I'll check now
[16:53] <troglobyte> postfix
[16:53] <troglobyte> but I think I have more info.  it looks like imap-ss is the problem
[16:54] <troglobyte> restarting courier-imap-ssl immediately fixed the problem and I'm seeing "imapd-ssl: chdir Maildir: No such file or directory"
[17:17] <ivoks> RoAkSoAx: pacemaker is broken too
[17:18] <RoAkSoAx> ivoks, yeah I was also trying to install it and found errors :)
[17:18] <ivoks> RoAkSoAx: it builds with old heartbeat and old openais... problaby doesn't work at all
[17:18] <RoAkSoAx> ivoks, I've install the pacemaker-heartbeat package and heartbeat won't start because of there's no CRM
[17:19] <RoAkSoAx> so I guess it's not installing pacemaker itself
[17:19] <ivoks> now i'm soooooooo sorry that i dropped my packages
[17:19] <RoAkSoAx> and If i install just acemaker it shows:  trying to overwrite `/usr/sbin/attrd_updater', which is also in package pacemaker-heartbeat
[17:19] <ivoks> these are broken, totally
[17:20] <RoAkSoAx> ivoks, have you actually erased your packages?
[17:20] <ivoks> yes
[17:20] <RoAkSoAx> i see :S
[17:20] <ivoks> but i'll manage something out
[17:22] <ivoks> rm -rf *
[17:22] <RoAkSoAx> ivoks, ok... you should also get in contact with the guy in debian who's working with them
[17:22] <RoAkSoAx> Madkiss is his nickname
[17:22] <ivoks> i've sent him an email
[17:22] <_cpod_> quick question: why is klogd using over 50% of my CPU right now and how can i reduce that? (i'm also rsyncing between two NTFS drives ATM, if that matters)
[17:23] <stanman1> is it possible to run mysql5 together with php3?
[17:24] <ivoks> RoAkSoAx: for start, let's just make pacemaker+openais
[17:24] <ivoks> RoAkSoAx: we'll add heartbeat support later
[17:24] <RoAkSoAx> ivoks, ok cool.
[17:25] <ivoks> we should remove pacemaker from ppa
[17:25] <ivoks> not yet, at least...
[17:26] <troglobyte> jmedina, postfix local is doing the delivery.  logs indicate normal operation until this happen: http://pastebin.com/d7c83e62f
[17:27] <jmedina> troglobyte: is directory exists?
[17:27] <troglobyte> yes.  it's there and handling mail
[17:27] <troglobyte> until it just stops
[17:27] <jmedina> troglobyte: that happens most of time when you try to connecto to IMAP and mailbox (Maildir) doesnt exists
[17:28] <RoAkSoAx> ivoks, should we just upgrade pacemaker and openais? or are you packaging them from scratch?
[17:28] <troglobyte> that part I understand.  how it just stops working out of the blue is what's got my head on backwards
[17:28] <ivoks> RoAkSoAx: openais in our ppa is latest
[17:28] <ivoks> RoAkSoAx: corosync is latest
[17:29] <ivoks> pacemaker was build with old openais
[17:29] <jmedina> troglobyte: I would try to ingrease debut in courier
[17:29] <ivoks> so, corosync and openais are ok, but i'll probably create new packages from scratch
[17:29] <ivoks> rhcs is in good shape
[17:30] <RoAkSoAx> ivoks, ok so openais-legacy is old openais?
[17:31] <ivoks> yes
[17:31] <ivoks> that's 0.8 version
[17:31] <ivoks> which had corosync in it
[17:31] <RoAkSoAx> ivoks, so we should just change the dependencies in debian/control?
[17:31] <ivoks> in 0.9x corosync is extracted from openais
[17:31] <ivoks> RoAkSoAx: it's not that easy
[17:33] <RoAkSoAx> ivoks, ok, so what can I do, should do?
[17:33] <RoAkSoAx> ivoks, we can consider this as part of my mentorship :)
[17:34] <ivoks> wait for better packages :)
[17:35] <RoAkSoAx> ivoks, hah yeah but I would like to contribute on the packaging and will also help learn more stuff
[17:42] <ivoks> RoAkSoAx: i have to figure out how to build pacemaker
[17:44] <RoAkSoAx> ivoks, ok
[17:45] <RoAkSoAx> ivoks, what about taking a look to : http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/server:/ha-clustering/xUbuntu_8.04/
[17:46] <RoAkSoAx> ivoks, the pacemaker project points out that repo to install pacemaker...
[17:48] <ivoks> hm... so that's with old openais
[17:48] <ivoks> RoAkSoAx: i'll wait for an answer on linux-ha
[17:49] <RoAkSoAx> ivoks, ping beekhof_ since he's the upstream pacemaker dev
[18:13] <ivoks> ok, finally, i'm figuring out how it's supposed to be
[18:16] <jared555> is it suggested that experienced users use ufw or iptables directly?
[18:20] <RoAkSoAx> ivoks, are you changing the dependencies from openais-legacy to openais?
[18:20] <ivoks> no
[18:20] <ivoks> pacemaker depends on openais-legacy
[18:20] <ivoks> rhcs depens on new openais
[18:22] <ivoks> and then there is heartbeat
[18:22] <ivoks> in old version is a standalone
[18:22] <ivoks> and in a new version is subset of pacemaker
[18:23] <RoAkSoAx> ivoks, what about pacemaker-heartbeat. Shouldn't it install both pacemaker and heartbeat?? rather than just heartbeat?
[18:24] <ivoks> man, i'm at the source still
[18:24] <RoAkSoAx> ivoks, haha ok :) well i'm eager to help I just don't know where to start
[18:26] <ivoks> heh
[18:26] <ivoks> praise the lord
[18:26] <ivoks> it builded
[18:27] <ivoks> suse's package is also... in bad state
[18:27] <ivoks> if configure fails, it's impossible to clean the source
[18:28] <ivoks> and you have to rm everything and then untar again
[18:28] <RoAkSoAx> i see
[18:28] <ivoks> and build-depends are wrong
[18:28] <RoAkSoAx> ivoks, i wouldn't be able to work on packages that way... that's why I need to work more on them and get al that knowledge
[18:29] <ivoks> they were ok for 8.05
[18:29] <ivoks> 4
[18:30] <Kaushal> hi
[18:30] <Kaushal> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=380550
[18:35] <Kaushal> I have On-board chip, NVIDIA NVRAID SATA controller
[18:35] <Kaushal> is there a support for it on Ubuntu 8.04.2 Server ?
[18:35] <ivoks> support for what?
[18:36] <ivoks> 'raid'?
[18:36] <jdstrand> jared555: depends on if ufw fits your needs
[18:36] <jdstrand> jared555: if you are only doing host-based stuff, ufw is recommended
[18:36] <Kaushal> support for raid level 1 on Ubuntu 8.04.2 server
[18:37] <jdstrand> jared555: if you need to do a lot of routing, iptables may be a better fit
[18:37] <ivoks> Kaushal: that controller isn't a raid controller
[18:37] <ivoks> Kaushal: that's a marketing trick
[18:37] <jdstrand> (but ufw can be used in the capacity too)
[18:37] <Kaushal> http://docs.sun.com/source/820-6350-11/chapter1.html#Z40000eb1319766
[18:38] <Kaushal> My server is X2200 M2
[18:39] <ivoks> Kaushal: i'm sorry, but that's a fakeraid
[18:39] <Kaushal> ivoks, if you look at the third column in that table they say it has support for Hardware 0,1
[18:39] <Kaushal> ah ok
[18:39] <ivoks> Kaushal: it exports all drivers to the operating system
[18:40] <ivoks> that's something that raid controllers don't do
[18:40] <ivoks> Kaushal: http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/RAID/NVRAID_with_dmraid#About_the_Install
[18:40] <pmatulis> anyone have any experience running 10 GB network cards on ubuntu?  does this make sense practically speaking?
[18:41] <ivoks> Kaushal: you'll get better performance if you disable that (leave it to work as simple sata controller) and set up linux software raid
[18:41] <Kaushal> ah ok
[18:43] <Kaushal> ivoks, is it https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID ?
[18:43] <ivoks> Kaushal: yes
[18:43] <Kaushal> great
[19:43] <Hillaballoo> hey all- does anyone know when mysql-server-5.1 will be updated to fix this month-old bug? https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-server-bugs/2009-May/013168.html
[19:43] <Hillaballoo> the inability to use the innodb plugin is a major issue
[19:50] <Hillaballoo> anyone?  Bueller?  Bueller?
[21:08] <billybigrigger> anyone here familiar with exporting databases?
[21:11] <Hillaballoo> don't bother, nobody answers anything in this channel
[21:16] <holoway> billybigrigger: exporting databases from what?
[21:16] <billybigrigger> well its my webmail database (roundcube)
[21:16] <billybigrigger> but it's version 0.22 and i see there is a 0.3 beta which i will just use for the new server
[21:20] <holoway> billybigrigger: but what is the database server itself? mysql? postgres? sqlite?  you can go look at the respective documentation forthat information
[21:20] <holoway> and you should look at roundcube's docs for specifics for your upgrade
[21:20] <billybigrigger> mysql
[21:20] <holoway> cool - the mysql docs are pretty clear about database export/backup/restore
[21:20] <billybigrigger> well i see the export tab in phpmyadmin
[21:21] <billybigrigger> wondering how safe that is to use
[21:22] <FFForever> any idea how i can fix this?, pam_env(sshd:setcred): Unable to open env file: /etc/default/locale: No such file or directory
[21:22] <FFForever> thats on an ssh login
[21:28] <billybigrigger> no locale setup
[21:29] <FFForever> billybigrigger, i am getting a problem with a user who cannot login =\
[21:29] <FFForever> billybigrigger, he is getting the error /bin/bash does not exist
[21:29] <FFForever> but i can login just fine
[22:05] <kirkland> sommer: ping
[22:05] <kirkland> sommer: hiya, i can't seem to find any official, or unofficial documentation on kvm virtio disks
[22:05] <kirkland> sommer: this blog post has a sample: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=859982
[22:06] <kirkland> sommer: any chance I could talk you into throwing a bit about this into one of the kvm community wiki pages and/or the server guide?
[22:06] <kirkland> sommer: i'll gladly review it for accuracy
[22:11] <chmac> Anyone know if there's a way to diff for only missing files. A simpler equivalent of `diff -qr path1/ path2/ | grep -v -e "^Files "`