[00:00] <flpwch> oh
[00:00] <flpwch> using aptitude cli?
[00:00] <syslq78> flpwch, yes
[00:00] <flpwch> what was it doing when it crashed?
[00:00] <cabrey> gartral, what graphics hardware do you have?
[00:00] <syslq78> I think unpacking but I'm not sure
[00:00] <nlipple> can anyone help me getting MAPI To work with Evolution?
[00:00] <gartral> cabrey: Java works fine... DVDs work fine... everything works FINE except flash... and after three months of it... im starting to loose patience
[00:01] <syslq78> flpwch anyway no licenses or anything (no interaction), on my laptop it finished just great
[00:01] <gartral> cabrey: nvidia 6200 AGP...
[00:01] <cabrey> syslq78, run sudo apt-get -f
[00:01] <syslq78> Will
[00:01] <syslq78> cabrey,  apt-get has no -f, you mean aptitude?
[00:02] <cabrey> syslq78, it should... but try aptitude
[00:02] <syslq78> cabrey, I did, now what?
[00:02] <cabrey> syslq78, what was the output?
[00:02] <assem> anyone here familiar with SCIM and input issues in compiz?  i can't seem to google this correctly
[00:03] <syslq78> cabrey, I have 1352 installed packages, no errors
[00:03] <cabrey> syslq78, then everything is fine
[00:03] <gartral> cabrey: nvidia 6200 AGP...
[00:03] <syslq78> cabrey, I did dpkg-reconfigure -f after crash
[00:03] <syslq78> cabrey, no it's not, my system is rebooting and I dont know why :)
[00:03] <Um_cara_qualquer> how do I install wallpaper clock pals?
[00:04] <syslq78> cabrey, I work with windows a lot and there I can stand it, but not on *nix man :)
[00:04] <AakashPatel> #ubuntu-offtopic
[00:04] <AakashPatel> err
[00:04] <syslq78> cabrey, but logs only logged reboot, not the reason :(
[00:04] <AakashPatel> sorry guys lol
[00:04] <Artemis3> is your pc restarting without any warnings, as if you pushed reset?
[00:05] <AssociateX> can I use KDM and KDE with ubuntu? This is my first day.
[00:05] <Artemis3> AssociateX, then you should use kubuntu :)
[00:05] <AssociateX> arg!
[00:06] <syslq78> Artemis3, nah, by itself, while aptituding, I thought it might be graphics I'm using dual screens but everything seems fine there
[00:06] <flpwch> AssociateX: it should have asked you to choose on install
[00:06] <AssociateX> Artemis3: is it too late to switch with out reinstalling?
[00:06] <flpwch> AssociateX: no
[00:06] <flpwch> but it will be easier
[00:06] <AssociateX> flpwch: I didn't see the option
[00:06] <Artemis3> AssociateX, well you can switch by installing kubuntu-desktop
[00:06] <Um_cara_qualquer> someone can tell me how install wallpaper clock?
[00:06] <VCoolio> AssociateX: you can install kubuntu-desktop, then you can choose from login-screen to login in gnome or kde, but kubuntu-desktop will come will a lot of extra apps
[00:06] <Artemis3> AssociateX, but that will download like 1g of data :)
[00:07] <VCoolio> AssociateX: not 1g but a lot
[00:07] <AssociateX> Thank you all who answered.
[00:07] <AssociateX> ty
[00:07] <flpwch> AssociateX: i do suggest using kubuntu and doing a clean install
[00:07] <flpwch> otherwise, you'll waste a lot of space and have some weird stuff going on.
[00:08] <AssociateX> flpwch: ok
[00:08] <AssociateX> that's not so bad
[00:08] <syslq78> I changed dual screens position from absolute to (left for left one and right for right one), I have no idea why this would help but it seems ok now
[00:08] <syslq78> I'm aptituding like crazy
[00:08] <maurizio> hello i need help
[00:08] <flpwch> thats what we assume maurizio
[00:08] <AssociateX> lol
[00:08] <maurizio> o jaja
[00:09] <syslq78> maurizio, me too, I'm eating antidepressants again to fight my obssesive compulsive disorder but enough about me...
[00:09] <maurizio> can i sincronize my iphon on ubuntu?
[00:09] <AssociateX> maurizio: would you like your help in a bowl, a bucket, or 55 gallon drum?
[00:09] <flpwch> maurizio: songbird does music.
[00:09] <cabrey> gartral, and you have installed the drivers, right?
[00:09] <flpwch> you need itunes for everything else.
[00:09] <gartral> cabrey: yes..
[00:09] <AssociateX> just kidding
[00:10] <flpwch> i'm not aware of any software for iphone management in ubuntu
[00:10] <gartral> cabrey: 180.44
[00:10] <cabrey> gartral, do you use compiz?
[00:10] <syslq78> Hmm, I traded irssi for xchat doest that make me a wuss?
[00:10] <maurizio> and how i install ubuntu 9 on my PS3
[00:10] <flpwch> yes syslq78
[00:10] <maurizio> _
[00:11] <cabrey> syslq78, nope i use it
[00:11] <syslq78> :)
[00:11] <gartral> cabrey: yes, but this problem persists regardless what desktops i use.. i even installed e16...
[00:11] <flpwch> if you aren't running irssi on a shell, then you are not a powerplayer
[00:11] <cabrey> gartral, have you tried disabling compiz and using flash?
[00:11] <flpwch> cabrey: i know compiz sucks, but it interferes with flash?
[00:11] <ubuntupwnt> System:    Host ADMIN-LAPTOP Kernel 2.6.28-11-generic i686 (32 bit) Distro Linux Mint 7 Gloria - Main Edition
[00:11] <ubuntupwnt> CPU:       Dual core Intel T2050 (SMP) cache 2048 KB flags (sse3)
[00:11] <ubuntubug> System:    Host debian Kernel 2.6.26-2-686 i686 (32 bit) Distro Debian GNU/Linux 5.0
[00:11] <ubuntubug> CPU:       Single core AMD Sempron 2800+ (UP) cache 256 KB flags (sse) clocked at 1999.784 MHz
[00:11] <ubuntubug> Graphics:  Card ATI RV280 [Radeon 9200 SE] X.Org 1.4.2 Res: 1024x768@85.0hz
[00:11] <ubuntubug>            GLX Renderer N/A GLX Version N/A
[00:11] <ubuntubug> Audio:     Card Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] AC'97 Sound Controller driver Intel ICH
[00:11] <FloodBot2> ubuntubug: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:11] <ubuntupwnt>            Clock Speeds: (1) 800.00 MHz (2) 800.00 MHz
[00:11] <ubuntubug>            Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Version 1.0.16
[00:11] <ubuntupwnt> Graphics:  Card Intel Mobile 945GM/GMS 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller X.Org 1.6.0 Res 1280x800@60.1hz
[00:11] <syslq78> flpwch, I sure as hell will not turn on my laptop to copy irssi config file :)
[00:11] <FloodBot2> ubuntupwnt: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:11] <ubuntupwnt> Audio:     Card Intel 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller driver HDA Intel
[00:11] <ubuntupwnt>            Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Version 1.0.18rc3
[00:11] <buntudroolz> System:    Host sarai-laptop Kernel 2.6.28-11-generic i686 (32 bit) Distro Linux Mint 7 Gloria - Main Edition
[00:11] <buntudroolz> CPU:       Dual core AMD Turion 64 X2 Mobile TL-60 (SMP) cache 1024 KB flags (sse3 nx lm svm)
[00:11] <buntudroolz>            Clock Speeds: (1) 800.00 MHz (2) 800.00 MHz
[00:11] <buntudroolz> Graphics:  Card nVidia C51 [Geforce 6150 Go] X.Org 1.6.0 Res 1280x800@50.0hz
[00:11] <buntudroolz>            GLX Renderer GeForce Go 6150/PCI/SSE2/3DNOW! GLX Version 2.1.2 NVIDIA 180.44
[00:12] <flpwch> syslq78: i don't have a config file on this shell. i haven't ever quit irssi.
[00:12] <cabrey> flpwch, compiz is good that it is a compositing window manager, but it can slow down flash
[00:12] <sircrazy> wtf was that? it kicked me for memory buffer?
[00:12] <sircrazy> after a bunch of spam came in
[00:13] <flpwch> sircrazy: your client probably
[00:13] <syslq78> :)
[00:13] <flpwch> if you used irssi
[00:13] <flpwch> that would never be a problem.
[00:13] <maurizio> hay alguien aqui que hable español_
[00:13] <syslq78> flpwch, heh, I dont ssh to chat
[00:13] <maurizio> ?
[00:13] <cabrey> !es
[00:13] <syslq78> maurizio, es
[00:13] <flpwch> maurizio: yo hablo tambien.
[00:14] <flpwch> pero es bueno que usted use #ubuntu-es
[00:14] <maurizio> como entro a los canales
[00:14] <flpwch> maurizio: /join #ubuntu-es
[00:14] <syslq78> maurizio, moze is spanjolski zbog mene, samo ti pricaj
[00:14] <maurizio> quisiera poder instalar el ubuntu 9.04  en mi PS3
[00:14] <syslq78> Ah, sorry you are actually nice here, got to change my ways
[00:15] <maurizio> alguien me podria decir como
[00:15] <cabrey> maurizio, /join #ubuntu-es
[00:15] <maurizio> instalar ubuntu en mi PS3
[00:15] <Artemis3> maurizio, escribe /join #ubuntu-es
[00:15] <flpwch> bilingual ubuntu up in dis
[00:15] <gartral> cabrey: I just said... it persists no matter what I try... e16 isn't compositable
[00:15] <cabrey> gartral, but have you tried disabling it? at least tried?
[00:15] <CrocoJet> hi for all
[00:16] <flpwch> hi CrocoJet how can we help you today
[00:16] <syslq78> flpwch, is there some script that would show me broken packages?
[00:16] <flpwch> syslq78: probably but i'll be damned if i have one or know of it
[00:16] <cabrey> syslq78, sudo aptitude -f would fix everything if there was a problem
[00:17] <flpwch> bam there you go
[00:17] <cypha> a
[00:17] <cabrey> syslq78, what were you installing?
[00:17] <syslq78> netbeans
[00:17] <flpwch> man, i prefer this to #gentoo. which was all WHAT CFLAGS SHOULD I USE
[00:17] <cabrey> you can try removing it and reinstalling it
[00:17] <cadu> hello guys! i would like to install ubuntu in the same way as a debian baseinstall (no autoselected packages/no GDM/X/Shit), just the base stuff with a shell and package management tools, that's it, how do i do it? ;)
[00:17] <cadu> tia.
[00:17] <flpwch> oh dang
[00:17] <syslq78> cabrey, it seems fine really, and aptitude know's it's shit
[00:17] <kitche> cadu: use the alternative cd
[00:18] <flpwch> someone who wants to do it the right way, cadu
[00:18] <AssociateX> is there an app to open  Microsoft Publisher files on ubuntu/linux?
[00:18] <Titan8990> flpwch, ubuntu shouldn't be compared with gentoo
[00:18] <flpwch> yeah, ubuntu alternet.
[00:18] <flpwch> alternate.
[00:18] <Titan8990> flpwch, gentoo is a enthusiast distro and ubuntu is a home user distro
[00:18] <cabrey> alternate cd still installs everything
[00:18] <syslq78> Titan8990, yeah ubuntu is actually usefull
[00:18] <gartral> cabrey: yes, it didn't work back hen jaunty was a fresh install... with all effect off
[00:18] <Titan8990> syslq78, i disagree but whatever
[00:18] <CrocoJet> Someone here knows how to setup cups ? I am getting one error when printing or self test page. The error message is "**** Unable to open the initial device, quitting" Any idea to solve that ?
[00:18] <syslq78> Titan8990, :)
[00:18] <cabrey> !cups
[00:19] <CrocoJet> I am using ubuntu 9.04
[00:19] <syslq78> Same here
[00:19] <cadu> AssociateX: heeheh, don't know if it's the right way, just my way ;P
[00:19] <syslq78> I have just installed it, I had windows 7 rc1 on for a month or something
[00:19] <flpwch> cadu: if i wasn't lazy its what i would have done.
[00:19] <cadu> AssociateX: debian is too outdated compared to ubuntu, but i don't like 'everything magically configured' so...
[00:19] <flpwch> since it took me two hours to get metacity to look decent
[00:19] <fcn> CUPS: Common UNIX Printing System
[00:20] <flpwch> Why doesn't ubuntu ship with compizconfig-settings-manager?
[00:20] <cadu> flpwch: i pretend using WMII actually ;)
[00:20] <gartral> cabrey: it won't work even in fluxbox...
[00:20] <kitche> !ccsm | flpwch
[00:20] <cadu> flpwch: wmii is teh shit for small screen netbooks and stuff
[00:20] <AssociateX> cadu, what are you talking about?
[00:20] <flpwch> kitche: i know, i know.
[00:20] <cabrey> gartral, I honestly don't know what to tell you. adobe's flash is closed source and the open source alternatives are crappy even when they are working "100%"
[00:20] <AssociateX> or did you mean someone else?
[00:20] <kitche> flpwch: because most users won't care if it's installed or not
[00:20] <flpwch> i am just mad that all i got was 3 options by default.
[00:21] <kitche> !language | cadu
[00:21] <cabrey> flpwch, because ccsm sucks, try simple-ccsm
[00:21] <gartral> cabrey: and there all working in the same crapp-o-range
[00:21] <cadu> AssociateX: huh, tiling window managers ;) and yeah someone else ;O eeheh
[00:21] <fcn> what about disk with broken fat?
[00:21] <flpwch> yay tiling window managers
[00:21] <cadu> kitche: okay, sorry ;)
[00:21] <flpwch> ion3 crowd
[00:21] <cadu> flpwch: it's cool and not so hard to use like people advocate around
[00:21] <AssociateX> cadu: ha, ok
[00:22] <AssociateX> is there an app to open  Microsoft Publisher files on ubuntu/linux?
[00:22] <cadu> flpwch: the thing is that some are so simple that you don't even get tray icon support and stuff
[00:22] <flpwch> AssociateX: does openoffice do it?
[00:22] <kingnerd> Hey guys.. I have a quick question.  I want to get Java working in Firefox, and I have the IcedTea plugin that seems not to work with many popular apps.  I was wondering if there was a proprietary solution in Ubuntu?  I'm on 8.10
[00:22] <cadu> flpwch: but i think the 'awesome' tiling window manager does it
[00:22] <AssociateX> flpwch: checking now
[00:22] <AssociateX> thanks
[00:22] <flpwch> cadu: ion3 only supports kde3 tray
[00:22] <cadu> flpwch: ahh cool
[00:22] <flpwch> other than that i think its the best tiling manager
[00:23] <cabrey> kingnerd, uninstall icedtea and sudo aptitude install sun-java6-jre sun-java6-plugin
[00:23] <kbrosnan> kingnerd: sun-java and the plugin if you are using 32 bit
[00:23] <flpwch> to the point where i only used my mouse for firefox
[00:23] <cadu> flpwch: ahhahaha , nice
[00:23] <kingnerd> I don't know how to install icedtea... it's not a synaptic package, and firefox only has a disable option (and it keeps re-enabling itself)
[00:23] <cadu> the thing is
[00:23] <flpwch> query for offtopic disc. about it.
[00:23] <cabrey> kingnerd, Applications > Add & Remove
[00:23] <cadu> how do i make a USB version of the alternate installer cd ???
[00:23] <kingnerd> nvm got it with apt-cache search
[00:24] <kingnerd> Okay, now it's telling me icedtea6-plugin was not installed, put it shows up under plugins in firefox
[00:24] <pepperjack> cadu: unetbootin easiest way
[00:24] <syslq78> I found what was the most likely cause of system freezing and restarting
[00:24] <syslq78> Dual monitor setup
[00:24] <flpwch> yay
[00:24] <syslq78> :(
[00:24] <flpwch> dual monitor causes aptitude crash?
[00:25] <syslq78> flpwch, it crashed for the third time without me using aptitude
[00:25] <flpwch> oh, that would do it.
[00:27] <gartral> cabrey: my system is a 1.7 ghz Intel Celeron from 2003 with 512 megs ram, and an 800 mhz fsb... I shouldn't have these problems
[00:27] <forcehack> who has deep knowledg about ubuntu i would like to ask question
[00:27] <gartral> forcehack: why not just ask?
[00:28] <erUSUL> !ask | forcehack
[00:28] <forcehack> ok
[00:28] <Thoku> I wish to install a deb in a temp location. How would I go about doing this?
[00:28] <forcehack> hw can u recover from lost password
[00:28] <flpwch> Thoku: install it to /tmp?
[00:28] <erUSUL> forcehack: boot into recovery mode run « passwd username »
[00:28] <Firefishe> How do I find the *mac address* of my wireless card?  I'm running 9.04.
[00:28] <cabrey> forcehack, something about your name and your question is ominous ;)
[00:29] <erUSUL> Firefishe: ifconfig wlan0
[00:29] <Thoku> flpwch: Yeah kinda. Well somewhere better than temp but yeah. I don't want it to clobber my "official" install
[00:29] <forcehack> do not require superuser privlages?
[00:29] <gartral> forcehack: depending on how badly you've smegged yourself up, if you only have the *one* sudoer account.. you simply can't
[00:29] <Thoku> flpwch: It has been built from source
[00:29] <erUSUL> forcehack: if you boot into recovery mode you are root
[00:30] <forcehack> ok i see
[00:30] <flpwch> Thoku: you compiled it yourself?
[00:30] <erUSUL> forcehack: once you have phisical access to the machine it is yours (unless it uses full disk encryption)
[00:30] <Thoku> flpwch: yeah and I created a package
[00:30] <Firefishe> erUSUL: Thanks, that did it. :)
[00:30] <erUSUL> Firefishe: no problem
[00:30] <gartral> cabrey: what *doe* work however... is Miro....
[00:30] <forcehack> ic....
[00:30] <TheFuzzball> Why does Ctrl+Alt+Backspace not restart X in 9.04?
[00:30] <flpwch> you should have specified install point in the package creation
[00:30] <erUSUL> !dontzap | TheFuzzball
[00:30] <flpwch> TheFuzzball: it was taken out
[00:31] <forcehack> do u know i want to learn more on troubleshooting
[00:31] <cabrey> gartral, my suggestion to you is to file bug reports to gnash/swfdec, or go in #gnash
[00:31] <Thoku> flpwch: hmmm ok. I have to do it them. Ok I will look into it. I was just wondering if there is a nice way of doing it?
[00:31] <daxroc> When I try to partition my hw raid array it seems to hang on 5% complete with the desktop version and 33% with server , both seem to be using megaraid_mbox drivers ( hw controller is srcs28x )
[00:31] <syslq78> forcehack,  logs in /var/log are great place to start
[00:31] <flpwch> i don't think so, once a .deb is created
[00:31] <mib_58nnug> compiz question, maybe my gfx drivers are bad: visual effects "Desktop effects could not be enabled"
[00:31] <gartral> cabrey: but it's all flash... <.<
[00:31] <cadu> install a package or just put the option in the xorg.conf ;)
[00:31] <cabrey> !dontzap | TheFuzzball
[00:31] <Paddy_EIRE> erUSUL: what was the main reasoning behind disabling ctrl+alt+backspace in the first place?
[00:32] <flpwch> Paddy_EIRE: who knows...
[00:32] <Thoku> flpwch: I did apt-get source ... and then was told to make the deb. But I want to make changes to the source
[00:32] <Thoku> and not clobber the original
[00:32] <gartral> Paddy_EIRE: people would acidentally trigger it
[00:32] <Paddy_EIRE> heh
[00:32] <flpwch> oh!
[00:32] <cadu> if stuff locks so badly you can't even vt-switch, it's nice to have a way to kill X
[00:32] <cabrey> !checkinstall | Thoku
[00:32] <daxroc> Paddy_EIRE: restart it properly
[00:32] <flpwch> you could always install the original from a package, Thoku
[00:32] <erUSUL> Paddy_EIRE: noobs really idiot users whatever you call them... xorg devs did not wnat anyone loosing his work becouse they «accientally» pressed the combination
[00:32] <flpwch> edit the source and compile it to another location.
[00:33] <erUSUL> forcehack: no problem
[00:33] <Paddy_EIRE> erUSUL: ah I see
[00:33] <forcehack> ic.... what messages i will get from /var/log there?
[00:33] <gartral> !rude | erUSUL
[00:33] <Thoku> flpwch ok cool
[00:33] <cabrey> gartral, it's kinda true tbh
[00:33] <gartral> !noob | erUSUL
[00:33] <erUSUL> gartral: i did not call anyone anything here
[00:34] <gartral> erUSUL: you uttered the word... that counts.
[00:34] <flpwch> stop nitpicking and lets move on.
[00:34] <forcehack> enUSUL:  what is your level on linux administration?
[00:34] <syslq78> Hmm
[00:34] <mib_58nnug> compiz question, maybe my gfx drivers are bad: visual effects "Desktop effects could not be enabled"
[00:34] <cabrey> forcehack, there are no 'levels'
[00:34] <erUSUL> gartral: if you say so
[00:34] <daxroc> and noob is not a derogatory term ? new un-experienced ...
[00:34] <cabrey> !details | mib_58nnug
[00:34] <flpwch> mib_58nnug: unsupported graphics card?
[00:34] <erUSUL> forcehack: dunno never take any exam ;P
[00:35] <syslq78> flpwch, ircing outside screen session is like fucking with a condom, a sin :(, aptitude install irssi
[00:35] <Seeker`> !language | syslq78
[00:35] <flpwch> language
[00:35] <gartral> cabrey: I had it set up in 8.10 where it was ctrl-alt-double backspace
[00:35] <flpwch> and i'm in a screen too.
[00:35] <Arcitens> I'm having a problem with Rhythmbox. Trying to add a podcast URL and getting a "could not parse feed" error. Happened in both Rhythmbox .0.12.0 and .0.12.2 on Ubuntu 9.04 - I saw something about this on the forums, but didn't see any solutions. Does anyone have any advice for adding podcast feeds to rhythmbox? Using Ubuntu 9.04. Thanks in advance.
[00:35] <gartral> erUSUL: shall we get a mod and ask them?
[00:35] <flpwch> a screen named irc, to be exact
[00:35] <J2k> hello, i cannot Reinstall GRUB after installing GFXBoot wich did not work either. synaptic doesnt seem to work
[00:35] <forcehack> enUSUL: i have not take LPCI yet, but local exam from my IT course center
[00:35] <syslq78> Hmm, what word?
[00:35] <syslq78> sin?
[00:35] <mib_58nnug> im not sure if my graphics card us supported
[00:35] <syslq78> Yeah, bible stuff scares children
[00:36] <cabrey> gartral, there are mods always watching here
[00:36] <Seeker`> syslq78: stop it
[00:36] <flpwch> mib_58nnug: that could be the problem.
[00:36] <erUSUL> gartral:  you are free to do whatever you fell needs doing
[00:36] <flpwch> if its a much older card it might simply be out of requirements for compiz
[00:36] <gartral> cabrey: I was more refering to draw their attention to the matter, but it isn't needed
[00:36] <mib_58nnug> when i go in to try to add desktop effects, it says scanning 4 drivers, the screen flashes then is says couldnd not apply desktop effects
[00:36] <forcehack> enUSUL: who is that guy gartral?
[00:36] <cabrey> !compiz | mib_58nnug
[00:37] <mib_58nnug> is a laptop, i think integrated gfx, its not old, 1gb ram and 2core intel
[00:37] <J2k> after reinstall  GRUB via synaptic, it stays on grub AND minimal bash like orders available
[00:37] <erUSUL> forcehack: dunno.. you are spelling my nick wrong
[00:37] <flpwch> erUSUL: query okay?
[00:37] <erUSUL> !tab | forcehack
[00:37] <mib_58nnug> er centrino duo
[00:37] <erUSUL> flpwch: ok
[00:37] <gartral> forcehack: I'm just a user, but I have a strong sense of public decency and humanity
[00:37] <forcehack> ok thanks
[00:37] <cabrey> mib_58nnug, run lspci | grep VGA in a terminal
[00:37] <syslq78> Is there a way I can just transfer keybidings from other computer?
[00:38] <flpwch> like custom commands?
[00:38] <forcehack> erUSUL, i got the tab move
[00:38] <flpwch> depends on where you defined them, syslq78
[00:38] <mib_58nnug> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
[00:38] <syslq78> flpwch, they arent that many really
[00:39] <cabrey> !intel | mib_58nnug
[00:39] <forcehack> erUSUL, have u taken any certification exams?
[00:39] <Seeker`> !ot | forcehack
[00:39] <flpwch> well, you could do it from xorg.conf if thats where they are, syslq78
[00:39] <erUSUL> forcehack: as i said; no i havn't
[00:39] <mib_58nnug> thanks
[00:39] <flpwch> but im not sure about application-specific
[00:39] <syslq78> flpwch, gnome stuff
[00:39] <plautus_> whoa
[00:39] <Shinka> I have a desktop computer with two harddrive, one with windows XP, one with the new Ubuntu 9.04. For some reason my internet connection doesn`t work with ubuntu 9.04. I have a nForce 4 motherboard and a D-Link DFE 538TX network card. What can I do ? On their website, D-Link gives drivers for linux but they`re ridiculously old, and they need to be compiled (C code), of course it doesn`t work...
[00:39] <forcehack> erUSUL, ok understand
[00:39] <Shinka> First of all is it the right place to ask these questions ?
[00:40] <flpwch> syslq78: check your application folder
[00:40] <sebsebseb> Shinka: yes it is
[00:40] <J2k> Cannot reinstall GRUB, am working on the LiveCD , leadme on the installation please!!!
[00:40] <flpwch> syslq78: ~/.application/
[00:40] <cattellar> is there a way to switch workspaces by moving the mouse wheel over a gnome panel?
[00:40] <syslq78> flpwch, yeah I guess it's there somewhere :), thanks
[00:40] <flpwch> cattellar: mouse wheel over desktop switches workspaces
[00:40] <sebsebseb> !wireless | Shinka
[00:40] <cattellar> flpwch, yeah but I mean the panel
[00:40] <Shinka> It`s a wired connection.
[00:41] <dmsuperman> I want to open a zenity window that's marked as sticky (all workspaces) from bash...is this possible?
[00:41] <sebsebseb> Shinka: ,but sadly some hardware you just won't be able to get working, because of lack of manufacture suppourt,  well natively that is
[00:41] <flpwch> cattellar: not that i know of
[00:41] <sebsebseb> Shinka: oh ethernet hum
[00:41] <sebsebseb> Shinka: ethernet normalley just works
[00:41] <cattellar> also, is there some way to limit window's size .. so that they don't cover the whole desktop?
[00:41] <maurolopes> Heloo alguem tc portugues br
[00:41] <J2k> am stuck on live CD an caanot get back my dual boot
[00:41] <sebsebseb> !br
[00:41] <RHorse> dmsuperman: you can do this in fluxbox, not sure about metacity
[00:41] <cabrey> J2k, what?
[00:41] <plautus_> J2k, take the CD out of the drive.
[00:41] <flpwch> cattellar: usually, applications will open the same size they were quit at.
[00:42] <Shinka> I know, I had to install openSUSE on my laptop and it just worked... I have no idea why it doesn`t work with my desktop, and it`s a pretty standard network card.
[00:42] <dmsuperman> RHorse: I'm using openbox
[00:42] <syslq78> sebsebseb, arent there some generic drivers, but yeah, I havent had such problems for 5 years now
[00:42] <ruser> hey guys, quick question,  what's the name of the binary for the  installer? i want to run it from console on installed system  to check a few things
[00:42] <J2k> i recieve an error on Boot. drive empty
[00:42] <sebsebseb> Shinka: yeah sometimes stuff like this just works in other distros, but not in Ubuntu
[00:42] <plautus_> J2k, BIOS settings?
[00:42] <forcehack> erUSUL, i cant change my screen resolution to high it limit to 800x600
[00:42] <cattellar> flpwch, true, although I still have to move them a bit .. and I want to click maximize, and let the window grow as big as the limit I set (so I can still change workspaces with the mousewheel)
[00:42] <erUSUL> !fixres | forcehack
[00:43] <J2k> dont know, its an HP dv5
[00:43] <Shinka> So there`s basically little I can do ?
[00:43] <plautus_> forcehack, what desktop environment?
[00:43] <sebsebseb> Shinka: try another distro?
[00:43] <J2k> dont know, its an HP dv5 plautus_
[00:43] <flpwch> im not sure about that, cattellar
[00:43] <forcehack> gnome
[00:43] <SeaPhor> anyone know if Ubuntu supports a HP laptop with a BluRay drive?
[00:43] <Shinka> I tried openSUSE but on my desktop computer it doesn`t work better.
[00:43] <forcehack> plautus_,  gnome
[00:43] <plautus_> Try a liveCD, SeaPhor
[00:44] <cabrey> forcehack, what gfx card?
[00:44] <plautus_> forcehack, I had the same problem with 8.04 and xfce, but I reinstalled and it rectified itself :|
[00:44] <plautus_> not sure why
[00:44] <dmsuperman> RHorse: How would you do it in fluxbox so I can have somewhere to start?
[00:44] <ruser> hey guys, quick question,  what's the name of the binary for the  installer? i want to run it from console on installed system  to check a few things
[00:44] <FloodBot2> !netsplit
[00:44] <syslq78> Shinka, you cant change distro over drivers
[00:44] <cabrey> he could if he wanted to :/
[00:44] <Shinka> Well I tried ;)
[00:45] <syslq78> Shinka,  paste me your card again
[00:45] <sebsebseb> Shinka: Windows as host is always hum, but  as long as you got like at least 512MB RAM, you could virtual machine Ubuntu inside Windows in say Virtualbox, and then your ethernet is bound to work
[00:45] <SeaPhor> plautus_, off the live cd i dont even have wireless or video support until i've done all the updates,and that requires a reboot which cancels out the installs....
[00:45] <plautus_> d'oh
[00:45] <forcehack> cabrey, i have to check and give you the name now
[00:45] <Shinka> D-Link DFE 538TX
[00:45] <syslq78> sebsebseb, he would kind of defeat the purpose of linux than,
[00:45] <syslq78> Shinka, moment
[00:45] <cabrey> ruser, what installer?
[00:45] <Shinka> thank you
[00:45] <J2k> it freeezes on Boot it stops on a grub / minimal bash like /  promt
[00:46] <sebsebseb> syslq78: I guess so, but better than no Linux at all right?
[00:46] <ruser> cabrey: ubuntu installer
[00:46] <ruser> cabrey:  and i'm not talking package manager
[00:46] <cabrey> ruser, ubiquity
[00:46] <J2k> boot issue find: `/grub/stage2': No such file or directory
[00:47] <cabrey> !grub
[00:47] <ruser> cabrey:  mmm livecd installer? not sure that's what i'm looking for
[00:47] <cattellar> is there a way to stop the mousewheel from changing to the next workspace when I reached the bottom one, or the top one?
[00:47] <J2k> thx ubottu
[00:47] <cabrey> ruser, you just said ubuntu installer? what else is there?
[00:47] <jgs90> hey all
[00:47] <sebsebseb> !thanks |  J2K
[00:47] <forcehack> cabrey, my gfx card is S3 Trio 64 3D with driver module s3virge
[00:48] <dmsuperman> I want to open a zenity window that's marked as sticky (all workspaces) from bash...is this possible?
[00:48] <jgs90> I just got Ubuntu up and running on my new acer netbook :)
[00:48] <raylu> when i turn on the machine, the bluetooth adapter is on and draining power. i've removed bluetooth from startup with update-rc.d already, but the adapter is still on. how do i prevent this behavior? should i blacklist btusb?
[00:48] <flpwch> raylu: could be another application doing it
[00:48] <raylu> ruser, cabrey: i don't think the installer installs itself
[00:48] <cabrey> jgs90, your host looks like philly, i'm on a netbook too
[00:48] <flpwch> you might also go so far as to remove bluetooth from the kernel entirely
[00:49] <raylu> flpwch: i still want to be able to use it later
[00:49] <flpwch> oh
[00:49] <raylu> actually, i've gotta go now
[00:49] <asdfqwer> does metacity include users /home/$USER/.themes path as a default path for including themes?
[00:49] <forcehack> cabrey, my gfx card is S3 Inc. Trio64 3D
[00:50] <cabrey> asdfqwer, yes
[00:50] <dmsuperman> I want to open a zenity window that's marked as sticky (all workspaces) from bash...is this possible?
[00:50] <cabrey> forceflow, hmm have you followed the links given before?
[00:50] <ruser> cabrey: yep  i read the description more attentivaely, tha'ts exctly what i'm looking for
[00:50] <RHorse> dmsuperman: ask in #fluxbox. they may know
[00:50] <tico> exit
[00:50] <tico> quit
[00:51] <D3RGPS31> When I run webcam-server, http://pastebin.com/m436fe3d8; What do I do :D
[00:51] <syslq78> Shinka, you still here?
[00:51] <Shinka> Yes
[00:51] <syslq78>  search  for 8139cp.ko
[00:52] <asdfqwer> cabrey: do i need to restart anything, some themes aren't showing up :(
[00:52] <ruser> you wouldn't happen to know if i can  pin  the intrepids  Xserver so it doesn't upgrade and install 9.3  fgrlx  driver?  to get my  X1400 RAdeon mobility card working with  direct rendering?
[00:52] <syslq78> sudo updatedb and than locate 8139cp.ko
[00:52] <ruser> oh, and i'm running jaunty
[00:52] <cabrey> asdfqwer, you installed a metacity theme? what do you mean it is not showing up?
[00:52] <syslq78> Shinka, thank modprobe -i 8139cp and try networking
[00:52] <ruser> cabrey:  is there a ncurses interface for ubiquity?
[00:52] <cabrey> syslq78, you shouldnt need -i
[00:53] <syslq78> cabrey, yeah
[00:53] <Shinka> Ok I`ll try, thank you very much
[00:53] <asdfqwer> cabrey: what do you mean *installed*? shouldn't it appearances just pull it from my .themes directory from home?
[00:54] <VCoolio> asdfqwer: if it's a metacity theme you can choose it by clicking 'customize' and then borders
[00:54] <whitewhole> hello
[00:54] <erUSUL> !hi | whitewhole
[00:54] <whitewhole> can you all help me
[00:55] <whitewhole> i have problem with display driver
[00:55] <pepperjack> whitewhole: just throw your question  out there someone will help if they can
[00:55] <syslq78> Shinka, if it works you'll need to add it to /etc/modules I think so it will be insmoded every time your system starts
[00:55] <syslq78> I might be wrong, I havent dealt with these things since 99'
[00:56] <whitewhole> my ubuntu can't detect nvdia gforce 8400gs how can i fix it]
[00:56] <erUSUL> !nvidia | whitewhole
[00:56] <cabrey> ruser, i think the package ubiquity is text vased
[00:56] <cabrey> based*
[00:56] <ruser> cabrey:  it's gtk :(
[00:56] <whitewhole> !nvidia
[00:56] <cr8ter> part
[00:56] <cabrey> asdfqwer, a metacity theme doesnt show up as a whole separate theme
[00:56] <lizthegrey> ﻿what's the proper procedure for recruiting backport testers for a package and deeming the backport sufficiently tested?  I'm trying to get sudo 1.7.0-1ubuntu1 from karmic backported to dapper and hardy - https://bugs.launchpad.net/hardy-backports/+bug/384100 - I tried asking on #ubuntu-devel, but nobody replied
[00:57] <asdfqwer> cabrey: right, shouldn't it just show up in my borders?
[00:58] <cabrey> asdfqwer, after you click customize..., it should be under Windows Border
[00:58] <cabrey> asdfqwer, how did you install it?
[00:59] <ugufjhfj> anyone know how to remove microsoft mono from jaunty?
[00:59] <cattellar> is there a way that when I switch to another workspace, the gnome panel stays in place instead of moving too?
[01:00] <cabrey> ugufjhfj, mono is not microsoft's
[01:00] <sebsebseb> ugufjhfj: Microsoft Mono heh
[01:00] <kholerabbi> Ubuntu Jaunty won't start - shows nothing after selecting in GRUB. Booting in recovery mode gives this error Kernel Panic - not syncing: VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown device (0,0)"
[01:00] <sebsebseb> ugufjhfj: it's  made by Novell and yes it's the open source version of .net
[01:00] <cabrey> ugufjhfj, sudo aptitude remove mono-2.0-runtime should do it tho
[01:00] <erUSUL> ugufjhfj: fire up Synaptic search mono mark all packages you see to purge
[01:01] <sebsebseb> ugufjhfj: or even better the link I can give
[01:01] <erUSUL> ugufjhfj: click apply
[01:01] <ugufjhfj> thanks!
[01:01] <kholerabbi> I am getting a Kernel Panic on boot in Jaunty after updates+computer janitor+bad shutdown... anything I might do to be able to boot again?
[01:01] <sebsebseb> ugufjhfj: then Mono apps won't even get installed again, however   I quite like Banshee myself, and F-spot is alright
[01:01] <syslq78> ugufjhfj, why would you want to do that?
[01:01] <ugufjhfj> i dont and i wont use mono apps
[01:01] <syslq78> ugufjhfj, ?
[01:02] <syslq78> ugufjhfj, how about java?
[01:02] <syslq78> ugufjhfj, python?
[01:02] <syslq78> :)
[01:02] <sebsebseb> syslq78: Java's not Mono
[01:02] <Shinka> I`m doing something wrong (I`m still very new to this world of terminal and commands); I did the update, I found the file, I got to the right directory and then I entered "modprobe -i 8139cp" but I got a fatal error
[01:02] <sebsebseb> syslq78: or Python
[01:02] <erUSUL> syslq78: probably a anti-microsoft zealot... ;P with all due respect.
[01:02] <weslei> algum brasileiro
[01:03] <sebsebseb> syslq78: personally  I don't see anything that wrong with Mono really,  but  some people think MS might have patents for it and so on.  anyway  I said about a link well here it is  http://boycottnovell.com/2009/06/02/mono-an-infectious-disease/
[01:05] <syslq78> sebsebseb,  no? I thought it's an alias for the same thing I'm being sarcastic :)
[01:05] <sebsebseb> syslq78: ah messaged wrong guy just then
[01:05] <sebsebseb> ugufjhfj: see above
[01:05] <syslq78> Shinka, what error?
[01:05] <erUSUL> !br | weslei
[01:05] <jmk6f4> Hi, I am using an Audigy 2 sound card with what I believe is ALSA.  I had pulseaudio but heard that it was terrible so I removed it.  Now sometimes the music is fine, other times it is muffled, and sometimes it is reverberated.  9.04 Jaunty.
[01:05] <dmsuperman> I want to open a zenity window that's marked as sticky (all workspaces) from bash...is this possible?
[01:05] <syslq78> erUSUL, bah microsoft or no microsoft mono is nice for me since I can do some .net coding :)
[01:05] <Shinka> FATAL: Error inserting 8139cp
[01:05] <syslq78> Shinka, that's all?
[01:05] <syslq78> Shinka, are you root?
[01:05] <syslq78> Shinka, sudo modeprobe -i xxx
[01:05] <Shinka> ok
[01:05] <erUSUL> syslq78: the thing i like the most about linux is choice at all levels from the kernel (Debian/kFreeBSD anyone) to the webbrowser
[01:05] <loko> hi
[01:06] <ruser> okay, let me rephrase. how can i downgrade jaunty  to previos version  of xserver so i can use fgrlx  driver for my older ati card which is not supported in latest version
[01:06] <syslq78> erUSUL, I love the facts linux is not hiding the details. Using linux has made me much more advanced windows admin (although I have rh and bsd's too), although it sounds weird
[01:06] <syslq78> at my job I mean
[01:07] <erUSUL> syslq78: i'm sure it helps understand the basics about many computer related things
[01:08] <syslq78> erUSUL, mhm, at least it prevents you becoming the type of geek who freezes when there is no shortcut to control panel (my classmate at university :) )
[01:08] <cabrey> erUSUL, it is also its downfall
[01:09] <syslq78> cabrey, yes and no
[01:09] <syslq78> cabrey, I can use ubuntu just like windows, click, click
[01:09]  * erUSUL goes to bed...
[01:09] <cabrey> syslq78, thats not what i meant
[01:09] <goddard> hey
[01:10] <syslq78> cabrey, for me linux became useful as desktop in last two years. Sometimes I just want things to work :)
[01:10] <Shinka> OK... well the command worked. I tried to connect to the internet and it didn`t work. However, it took much longer to `fail` and when it did fail I didn`t get any message of the type `you have no wired connection`.
[01:10] <syslq78> Shinka, what did you get?
[01:10] <syslq78> Shinka, do ifconfig /all
[01:10] <cabrey> syslq78, i meant that for a developer there is zero standardization, which makes it harder for them to develop
[01:11] <cabrey> Shinka, put this into pastebin dmesg | tail --lines=40
[01:11] <syslq78> syslq78, I develop on linux and I dont have problems
[01:11] <engman> اه
[01:11] <syslq78> cabrey, ah, you mean linux devels
[01:11] <cabrey> syslq78, how many packages did you have to make?
[01:12] <jmk6f4> Hi, I am using an Audigy 2 sound card with what I believe is ALSA.  I had pulseaudio but heard that it was terrible so I removed it.  Now sometimes the music is fine, other times it is muffled, and sometimes it is reverberated.  9.04 Jaunty.
[01:12] <syslq78> cabrey, yeah I understood latter, none
[01:12] <cabrey> jmk6f4, you removed it without trying it?
[01:12] <jrib> jmk6f4: "heard that it was terrible", brilliant
[01:12] <syslq78> Shinka, good luck , I'm off to bed
[01:13] <Shinka> With ifconfit /all I get an error (Device not found) , with ifconfit alone I see a lot of info under eth0 and lo
[01:13] <cabrey> jmk6f4, no wonder you might have problems... pulseaudio is a rather large component of audio in ubuntu
[01:13] <jmk6f4> cabrey: I had issues with games not working correctly with it, removing it fixed the games, but now for some reason my music has changed.
[01:13] <Shinka> Ok then, good night and thank you for the help
[01:13] <syslq78> Shinka, what is ip under eth0?
[01:13] <cabrey> !audio | jmk6f4
[01:13] <syslq78> Shinka, I'll wait few more minutes
[01:13] <Shinka> min
[01:13] <D3RGPS31> When I run webcam-server, http://pastebin.com/m436fe3d8; What do I do :D
[01:14] <ugliefrog> anyone here use shutter its a screen capture utility.....if you do are you getting an error when try to capture a web page
[01:15] <panfist> hi...so i'm pretty irritated to find out now after a year that you need >6GB of RAM to perform a file system check on an XFS volume. I'm on 64-bit so I think I'll be able to do it if I increase my swap space. Can I increase my swap file without rebooting?
[01:15] <Shinka> You want me to post it here (it`s pretty big) ?
[01:15] <cabrey> panfist, that does not sound right at all
[01:15] <syslq78> msg me and  paste
[01:15] <Olorin2> ttp://paste.ubuntu.com
[01:15] <syslq78> Shinka, even better
[01:16] <cabrey> !pastebin
[01:16] <Shinka> Done
[01:16] <phantomcircuit> argh why is the version of gtk-gnutella that the stable version of ubuntu has never work!
[01:16] <panfist> cabrey if i try to do sudo xfs_check /dev/md0 i get: xfs_check: out of memory. i googled that and on the oss.sgi.com mailing lists someone said you need more available memory to check a very large xfs file ssytem
[01:16] <kattib> hey I have a question, how would I uninstall blender from my computer because I think something mightve gotten messed up so I just wanna try to uninstall then reinstall it
[01:17] <cabrey> panfist, just how large is this FS?
[01:17] <panfist> cabrey 3TB
[01:17] <syslq78> Shinka it seems ok, but you dont have an ip
[01:17] <kholerabbi> "Kernel Panic - not syncing: VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown device (0,0)" is there any information I can get that will help someone help me?
[01:17] <panfist> cabrey it will be ~4TB, I'm adding a disk to my array but i want to check it first
[01:17] <cabrey> panfist, sounds like a major server i would think 6gb would be in there already O_o but you can try increasing swap
[01:17] <syslq78> Shinka, first thing is first you'd need to add this to /etc/modules, so you wont f*ck around with modprobe every time you reboot
[01:18] <cabrey> panfist, there is also #xfs to ask
[01:18] <panfist> can i increase swap without rebooting?
[01:18] <panfist> oh cool i will try that
[01:18] <Shinka> ok and i`ll try to restart my internet connection
[01:18] <syslq78> Shinka, wait
[01:18] <syslq78> Shinka dont do that
[01:19] <syslq78> If you have router with dhcp dhclient
[01:19] <syslq78> If you have dhcp server running run: dhclient
[01:19] <syslq78> otherwise add static entrys to /etc/network/interfaces I think
[01:21] <cabrey> syslq78, he shouldnt have to run dhclient, network manager should handle all that for him
[01:22] <syslq78> Shinka, sorry I really need to go to sleep, your NIC is seen by the system now, someone else can talk you trough, just dont forget to add it to /etc/modules like this: alias eth0 name_of_module
[01:22] <whitewhole> i use vm for ubuntu i mount avirtual hdd but i cant create new folder over there
[01:22] <whitewhole> can you all help me
[01:22] <syslq78> cabrey, yeah, i'm 99' linux guy
[01:22] <Shinka> Sorry syslq78
[01:22] <Shinka> I didn`t see your message in time ;)
[01:22] <cabrey> syslq78, also, just listing the module should do, no alias
[01:23] <whitewhole> i use vm for ubuntu i mount avirtual hdd but i cant create new folder over there
[01:23] <Shinka> Thank you for the help I`ll add it to etc/modules
[01:23] <syslq78> Shinka, np, night
[01:23] <Shinka> night
[01:25] <Polarina> How do I disable indicator-applet? I hate it, hate it!
[01:25] <cabrey> Polarina, why? i mean, thats where all the icons go
[01:25] <Polarina> cabrey: I hate it, it's annoying, I cannot mute sounds in pidgin because I cannot right-click it.
[01:26] <Polarina> cabrey: It pops-up each time a buddy comes online.
[01:26] <cabrey> Polarina, i think you mean notification daemon
[01:26] <Polarina> cabrey: The about screen says indicator-applet.
[01:26] <cabrey> Polarina, anyway, you can disable the pidgin notification if thats your only gripe
[01:26] <Shinka> Well, anybody else has an idea for my internet connection ?
[01:26] <Polarina> cabrey: I hate it, how do I remove it?
[01:26] <cabrey> Polarina, are you talking about the black squares that fade in and out?
[01:26] <Polarina> cabrey: Yes.
[01:27] <cabrey> Polarina, that is notify-osd
[01:27] <Polarina> cabrey: Thanks.
[01:27] <cabrey> not notification area
[01:27] <cabrey> Polarina, hold on, is your only complaint that pidgin shows stuff?
[01:28] <Polarina> cabrey: No. It makes access slower, for example, when someone addresses me, I could click the pidgin icon and it would bring up the window for me. It doesn't do that. :(
[01:28] <Chiggins> hey room, got a wireless internet driver question...  i just installed 8.04 desktop, and i have a wireless card.  it has the drivers for it in restricted, but when i open up firefox i cannot connect to the internet
[01:28] <cabrey> Polarina, so its only the pidgin stuff thats annoying you?
[01:28] <cabrey> Polarina, you can disable that
[01:28] <Polarina> cabrey: Evolution also.
[01:28] <cabrey> Polarina, also, to mute pidgin, Tools > Mute Sounds
[01:29] <Polarina> cabrey: I just want to get rid of it.
[01:29] <cabrey> Polarina, i'm trying to tell you that you're going to remove quite a bit of functionality
[01:29] <cabrey> Polarina, and you might break stuff
[01:29] <Polarina> It makes accessibility difficult for me.
[01:30] <hyj> what is the official site of TRUECOMBAT:ELITE?
[01:30] <cabrey> can you be specific? its hard when you make vague statements
[01:30] <Polarina> cabrey: That's why I asked here, so I don't break stuff.
[01:31] <Jota2k> hello i need to fix the GRUB but i found no solution. last thing i recieverd was Error 2 on Grub Loading
[01:32] <Polarina> cabrey: I also cannot see the difference when it flashes if it was Evolution or Pidgin. IMs are quite important for me to see quickly, but e-mail can wait if I'm working on something else.
[01:32] <Chiggins> hey room, got a wireless internet driver question...  i just installed 8.04 desktop, and i have a wireless card.  it has the drivers for it in restricted, but when i open up firefox i cannot connect to the internet
[01:33] <Polarina> Chiggins: You need to establish a connection with an access point first.
[01:33] <ttyType> hi, all, i cant seem to find the framebuffer device
[01:33] <ttyType> (/dev/fb0)
[01:33] <ttyType> [
[01:34] <Chiggins> Polarina, how would i do that
[01:34] <RHorse> Chiggins: pastebin results of ifconfig in command line
[01:34] <Polarina> Chiggins: Click on the network applet on the top right.
[01:34] <Polarina> Chiggins: It will bring down a list of networks in reach.
[01:35] <Chiggins> Polarina, when i did that, the only thing that was there was something like "Edit wireless networks"
[01:35] <Polarina> Chiggins: Are there any nearby access points at all?
[01:35] <Chiggins> btw, right now, im on vista, since i cant get online on ubuntu yet
[01:35] <VCoolio> Polarina: to change popups in pidgin: tools > plugins > libnotify popups; select it and click configure, or disable completely by unchecking; for evolution popups in evolution go to edit > preferences > mail preferences > general and see at bottom of the tab
[01:36] <Jota2k> am kinda worried Now, I used the commands by sudo -i o set up the bootloader, but got error
[01:36] <Jota2k>  CANNOT cannot BOOT
[01:36] <Jota2k> Boot Boot issue, GRUB corrupted and not reinstallable
[01:36] <Chiggins> ya, im on one right, with vista
[01:37] <Polarina> VCoolio: I also don't like these two grouped together there.
[01:38] <cabrey> Polarina, so you want pidgin notifications, but not evolution?
[01:38] <vaibhav> I got the ext4 system hang problem , any help
[01:39] <Polarina> When I click the close button (X) on the Pidgin Buddy List Interface, it completely shuts down. It's not supposed to do that. :(
[01:39] <cabrey> Polarina, that has nothing to do with notifications. but look in the top right hand corner after clicking X
[01:40] <cabrey> there should be a sort of green circle
[01:40] <Polarina> cabrey: Pidgin just shuts, everything. It closes connections to servers, logs out, and so on.
[01:40] <RHorse> Chiggins: pastebin results of ifconfig in command line
[01:40] <Polarina> cabrey: And there was no green circle.
[01:41] <mgolisch> Polarina: start it from a terminal then and see if theres any errors
[01:41] <max_> Hi, I'm trying to burn a video dvd with Brasero, and when i click "burn" it says "it is not possoble to write with the current set of plugins" What plugins do i need to burn this?
[01:41] <Joker_-_> Can I install Ubuntu remix's interface on xubuntu. If so, how?
[01:41] <cabrey> Polarina, thats interesting, but tbh i dont use pidgin anymore, i use empathy now
[01:41] <ttyType> why is there no linux framebuffer device?
[01:41] <ttyType> (/dev/fb0)
[01:42] <cabrey> ttyType, why do you need that?
[01:42] <mgolisch> ttyType: you didnt load a driver for it?
[01:42] <lstarnes> ttyType: you likely don't have the modules for it loaded or the modules were blacklisted
[01:42] <mgolisch> ttyType: i think they are blacklisted by default
[01:42] <ttyType> cabrey: i dont 'need' it, but i wanna understand some stuff
[01:43] <ttyType> mgolisch: i thought the framebuffer device wasn't
[01:43] <ttyType> modularizable
[01:43] <Joker_-_> whats the nam eof ubuntu remix's user interface (I want that UI on a "normal" xubuntu install)
[01:43] <cabrey> ttyType, check out /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-framebuffer.conf
[01:43] <ttyType> cabrey: so what
[01:43] <ttyType> would ubuntu use if it didnt have DRI?
[01:43] <mgolisch> Joker_-_: its a gnome-panel applet, and some gtk prog
[01:44] <cabrey> ttyType, ok then...
[01:44] <Joker_-_> mgolisch: and there is no "pseudo-package" that installs everything, taking care of dependancies and config?
[01:44] <ttyType> ah hah, i see. there is framebuffer blacklist...hmm......
[01:45] <mgolisch> Joker_-_: they should have packages, no idea if they realy depend on everything needed
[01:45] <Joker_-_> mgolisch: I wanted that UI on a normal laptop (thats for a kid and I find that UI easyer, simpler.)
[01:45] <mgolisch> easiest way is probably installing ubuntu-desktop and ontop of that whatever packages netbook remix consists of
[01:46] <mgolisch> maybe gnome-panel is enough, just check the dependencies of the netbook remix packages
[01:46] <Joker_-_>  mgolisch : I read tha remix is optimised for atom so I tought I shouldnt install it (tought it might have some modules or something)
[01:47] <Joker_-_> mgolisch: all I wanted isthe UI... I tought it was as simple as installing xfce alon with gnome and / or KDE
[01:47] <cabrey> Joker_-_, have you used it before?
[01:47] <JosephWHolme1> Hey everyone, I have a BCM4328 802.11a/b/g/n wireless card, and 9.04, and I can't get wireless to work.
[01:47] <Joker_-_> cabrey: yup, I had a netbook before... you can seemlessly switch between gnome and the new UI
[01:47] <BslBryan> JosephWHolme1: try this:
[01:47] <Joker_-_> cabrey: it's pretty cooll
[01:48] <cabrey> Joker_-_, yea I know, im on a netbook :)
[01:48] <JosephWHolme1> wut?
[01:48] <Mike_lifeguard> Can someone help me to downgrade some packages? apt-get doesn't want to do it - can I force it to do so somehow?
[01:48] <BslBryan> Open up a terminal.
[01:48] <cabrey> Joker_-_, the netbook UI, however, is horrible IMHO, but there was a page on help.ubuntu.com to install it on normal ubuntu
[01:48] <JosephWHolme1> Whats that.
[01:48] <LjL> Mike_lifeguard: sudo apt-get install packagename=versionnumber
[01:48] <lstarnes> Mike_lifeguard: I don't think that's supported
[01:48] <mdg> JosephWHolme1: Have you done anything to setup the card yet?
[01:48] <Joker_-_> cabrey: cool, imma look at it
[01:48] <BslBryan> JosephWHolme1: Applications --> Accessories --> Terminal
[01:49] <max_> Hi, I'm trying to burn a video dvd with Brasero, and when i click "burn" it says "it is not possoble to write with the current set of plugins" What plugins do i need to burn this?
[01:49] <JosephWHolme1> mdg: no it don't work.
[01:49] <JosephWHolme1> bslbryan: okay.
[01:49] <BslBryan> and type exactly this:
[01:49] <BslBryan> sudo rmmod ssb
[01:49] <BslBryan> sudo modprobe wl
[01:49] <Mike_lifeguard> LjL: where would I find possible values for the version number for xserver-xorg-video-intel for example?
[01:49] <BslBryan> when you do the first command,
[01:49] <BslBryan> it will ask you for a password.
[01:50] <BslBryan> It will not look like anything is being typed in.
[01:50] <cabrey> Mike_lifeguard, aptitude search
[01:50] <mdg> BslBryan: What driver does that card use?
[01:50] <eljojo> hi!
[01:50]  * Mike_lifeguard tries...
[01:50] <cabrey> Mike_lifeguard, aptitude show package_name *
[01:50] <LjL> Mike_lifeguard: apt-cache policy xserver-xorg-video-intel  (will tell you the ones that you have available - if you don't have them available, then tough luck ;)
[01:50] <JosephWHolme1> my wireless light is on now
[01:50] <eljojo> hi slevin
[01:50] <JosephWHolme1> but i don't see no networks.
[01:51] <BslBryan> You won't be able to for another 5 minutes or so.
[01:51] <JosephWHolme1> Sweet!  I see them now thank you so much
[01:51] <slevin> hi everyone... when am trying to update my system, it says that an error occurred during signature verification!! what shall i do?
[01:52] <JosephWHolme1> bslbryan: ﻿Sweet!  I see them now thank you so much
[01:52] <Guest62362> hi all. im on 9.04 and brasero cant see my dvd drive. all other progs can see it.
[01:52] <BslBryan> I'm glad JosephWHolme1. :-)
[01:52] <msekeris> anyone familliar with this screen? http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/9765/kernel.jpg i think it happens when i use the nic alot, since it also shows rlt8169 in there
[01:53] <mdg> BslBryan: what's ssb?
[01:53] <coz_> Guest62362, I have found that brasero is not one of the better burning applications... if on gnome I prefer gnomebaker to brasero
[01:53] <BslBryan> mdg: wireless module.
[01:53] <Guest62362> coz: i try that. thnx
[01:54] <slevin> hi everyone... when am trying to update my system, it says that an error occurred during signature verification!! what shall i do?
[01:54] <mdg> BslBryan: was trying to figure out which one  :)
[01:54] <mgolisch> i prefer cdrecord..
[01:54] <mgolisch> :)
[01:54] <BslBryan> mdg: Ah, sorry. :-) I don't actually know terribly much about it. I know about that solution from experience, not textbook knowledge.
[01:54] <BslBryan> I can look it up, though.
[01:55] <Lucifer_Cat> evening, people... anyone know if using the ubuntu livecd to partition and install ubuntu on an existing xp install will leave the data intact or not?
[01:55] <mdg> BslBryan: I gathered you had dealt with it before  :)
[01:55] <thiebaude> Lucifer_Cat: your data will be ok
[01:56] <Lucifer_Cat> good.
[01:56] <Lucifer_Cat> not that i particularly care, but i would like to keep the xp install for times when something does not support linux
[01:57] <Lucifer_Cat> that reminds me.. any straightforward way to have netflix streaming on ubuntu?
[01:57] <thiebaude> Lucifer_Cat: i know what you mean, i've done the dual boot before
[01:57] <BslBryan> mdg: Apparently a lot of wireless cards on Jaunty don't know how to deal with ssb (still no word on what it actually does. It doesn't exist on Hardy) and, so terminating the module allows the wireless card to be activated.
[01:57] <thiebaude> Lucifer_Cat: never did the netflix thing
[01:57] <Sarago> what is the default window manager/desktop enviro that is installed with ubuntu?
[01:57] <BslBryan> Sarago: GNOME.
[01:57] <thiebaude> !gnome
[01:57] <Sarago> i'm installing on an old 1g celeron with only 256mb of ram so I want a fast one
[01:58] <mdg> BslBryan: Good to know!  Thanks!
[01:58] <RHorse> !fluxbuntu
[01:58] <BslBryan> mdg: No problem. :-) Out of curiosity, are you having a similar problem?
[01:58] <mdg> BslBryan: I'm still on intrepid - will be for a while
[01:58] <Chiggins> RHorse, i have that ifconfig results you wanted
[01:58] <Chiggins> http://pastebin.com/m6f5d0e46
[01:59] <Jota2k> Reinstall Grub
[01:59] <thiebaude> Sarago: do a search on google-- window managers for ubuntu
[01:59] <Jota2k> i recieve error 2 on boot
[01:59] <Lucifer_Cat> thiebaude: cool. i guess i'll keep it limited to my regular lappie
[01:59] <Jota2k> cannot make it start
[01:59] <mdg> BslBryan: Was curious about the problems people are having with netbooks - what in particular and what brand...
[01:59] <BslBryan> mdg: Ah. Yeah, I tinkered with Jaunty, but after solving my problems and realizing that I can get around with any Ubuntu distro, I went back to Hardy, and am staying here until the next LTS.
[01:59] <SeaPhor> anyone know if Ubuntu supports a BluRay drive?
[02:00] <BslBryan> SeaPhor: yes.
[02:00] <BslBryan> You can even burn a blank Blu-Ray disc.
[02:00] <BslBryan> mdg: Isn't the netbook remix optimized to minimize problems?
[02:00] <SeaPhor> ty BslBryan
[02:00] <BslBryan> No problem. :-)
[02:01] <mdg> BslBryan: Don't have one yet - that's why I was asking
[02:01] <Sarago> thiebaude: thanks... i've used fluxbox before, i'm thinking about using that
[02:01] <RHorse> Chiggins: what wireless card are you using. Do you see it with the lspci or lshw command?
[02:01] <Sarago> it's fast and lightweight
[02:01] <thiebaude> Sarago: i've used a lot of different window managers before
[02:01] <BslBryan> mdg: Oh, all right. :-) What are you thinking about getting? I might be able to confirm compatibility.
[02:02] <PhyTonX> anybody not bad at smarty and want to waste 5 mins helping me?
[02:02] <fryguy> PhyTonX: this is ubuntu technical support, not a help-with-programming channel, check out #smarty or ##php
[02:02] <Chiggins> RHorse, i couldnt tell you right now, im back in vista, but on here it says "HP 802.11b/g Wireless Network Adapter"
[02:02] <mdg> BslBryan: EEEPC 1000HA
[02:02] <slurpee> what is a good program to burn audio cds in ubuntu?
[02:02] <PhyTonX> ok sorry and thanks.
[02:02] <fryguy> slurpee: brasero
[02:03] <BslBryan> slurpee: gnomebaker.
[02:03] <slurpee> brasero crashes on me
[02:03] <fryguy> so then fix that
[02:03] <slurpee> why would it crash?
[02:03] <mdg> BslBryan: +1 for Gnomebaker  :)
[02:03] <BslBryan> mdg: Give me a sec... I assume you wouldn't want netbook remix or eeebuntu?
[02:04] <mdg> BslBryan: actually EEEPC 1000HE
[02:05] <RHorse> Chiggins: it's good to know what  hardware is being detected. Need results of lspci, lshw, and iwconfig.
[02:06] <Chiggins> ahhh alright... give me a few minutes ill be back
[02:06] <BslBryan> mdg: Apparently that works wonders with 8.04-9.04. Out of the box! Wow.
[02:06] <mdg> BslBryan: awesome!!!  :)
[02:07] <mdg> BslBryan: I was worried about the wifi in it...
[02:07] <cabrey> mdg, you're getting an Eee?
[02:07] <BslBryan> mdg: If you try to install with an SD card, though, it might take some troubleshooting before it will be a success.
[02:07] <cabrey> mdg, i'm running on an Eee right now
[02:07] <mdg> cabrey: maybe
[02:07] <mdg> BslBryan: whats a good flash drive to use for that?
[02:08] <cabrey> mdg, there are some fixes that you would immediately need to implement
[02:08] <Lucifer_Cat> hows the ubuntu support for Acer Aspire One?
[02:08] <cabrey> Lucifer_Cat, so so, I've heard there are some problems for people
[02:08] <mdg> cabrey: are they posted at ubuntuforums website?
[02:08] <Lucifer_Cat> what kind, any details?
[02:08] <BslBryan> mdg: I'd listen to cabrey, as it looks like he knows a lot more than I do about it. But as far as flash drives, I use a 16GB SanDisk, but you only need a 4GB.
[02:09] <cabrey> mdg, not that i know of, i had to find this out myself, but i think it was submitted as a bug report
[02:09] <cabrey> mdg, and I have the 900HA
[02:09] <mdg> cabrey: what kinds of things?
[02:09] <cabrey> mdg, well out of the box everything works, except the trackpad misbehaves
[02:10] <cabrey> mdg, its really jumpy and makes you want to throw it out of the window
[02:10] <cabrey> mdg, but you just add an option to the module psmouse and it works fantastically
[02:10] <mdg> cabrey: LOL - that'd be me all right LOL
[02:10] <cabrey> mdg, the quality of the trackpad is amazing
[02:10] <cabrey> mdg, i can use 1, 2, or 3 fingers
[02:10] <mdg> cabrey: which os do you use on it?
[02:11] <BslBryan> mdg, cabrey: how expensive is the eee?
[02:11] <Jota2k> Error on GRUB Boot      More than one install_devices?  what can i DO_
[02:11] <cabrey> ubuntu netbook remix switched over to gnome desktop
[02:11] <cabrey> BslBryan, really cheap these days, probably around ~$250 now
[02:11] <mdg> BslBryan: The one I am looking at is $389.99 with 6 cell battery and win XP (eewww)\
[02:11] <cabrey> mdg, I also installed the array.org eee kernel
[02:12] <BslBryan> cabrey: Really? wow! I managed to find a Dell notebook for $299 with Ubuntu preinstalled.
[02:12] <BslBryan> Which is a lot better than a netbook
[02:12] <BslBryan> And apparently cheaper.
[02:12] <mdg> cabrey: what array.org?
[02:12] <cabrey> BslBryan, yea i saw that, it hit reddit.com yesterday
[02:12]  * Lucifer_Cat just bought an aspire one for 175.. 6 motnhs old
[02:12] <cabrey> BslBryan, but celeron :/
[02:12] <mdg> BslBryan: What size notebook?
[02:12] <Lucifer_Cat> and by just i mean, 30 mins ago :P
[02:12] <Cloudef> Hi
[02:12] <BslBryan> cabrey: Ah.
[02:12] <BslBryan> mdg: http://news.cnet.com/8301-13845_3-10258138-58.html
[02:13] <cabrey> mdg, it is a special eeepc kernel made just for the eee pc line
[02:13] <Cloudef> Can somebody look into my annyoining problem <_<?
[02:13] <Jota2k> Error on GRUB Boot      More than one install_devices?  what can i DO_ i wanna kill my laptop!
[02:13] <BslBryan> Jota2k, which GRUB error is that?
[02:13] <Jota2k> this is annoyng i cannnot boot or install grub!
[02:13] <Cloudef> After updating from Hardy to Jaunty which appaterently uses HAL has made my Mouse go mad
[02:14] <[Crussd2]> Jota2k: using livecd to recover your Grub
[02:14] <Jota2k> BslBryan: is when am using this line root@ubuntu:~# grub-install /media/disk-1/boot/grub/ hd0,4
[02:14] <thiebaude> BslBryan: great deal and 2gb of ram
[02:14] <cabrey> mdg, i want to warn you, though, that flash is next to useless on the eee
[02:14] <Cloudef> My mouse sometimes randomly does doubleclick and its extremely annyoining when browsing internet or programming <_<
[02:14] <Jota2k> AM ON THE LIVE CD....
[02:14] <BslBryan> thiebaude: yeah, I know. Pretty awesome, huh?
[02:14] <mdg> cabrey: is there an alternative?
[02:14] <[Crussd2]> sepp"
[02:15] <BslBryan> Jota2k: Do you still have the LiveCD?
[02:15] <cabrey> mdg, nope, the open source alternatives are worse. but firefox on the eee is the worst offender of them all
[02:15] <Jota2k> On sesion!
[02:15] <BslBryan> Jota2k: Ah, nevermind.
[02:15] <cabrey> !grub | Jota2k
[02:15] <BslBryan> Are you dual booting?
[02:15] <mdg> cabrey: oooo..... maybe I will wait on the EEEPC then
[02:15] <Jota2k> BslBryan: yes Vista and Jaunty
[02:15] <cabrey> mdg, i use chrome/chromium :)
[02:16] <cabrey> mdg, it is godly
[02:16] <thiebaude> BslBryan: i need a laptop, real bad
[02:16] <Jota2k> BslBryan: it is wrong since i was tryng GFXboot
[02:16] <Cloudef> So anybody has solution to the Mouse problem?
[02:16] <mdg> cabrey: I haven't seen chrome yet
[02:16] <BslBryan> Jota2k: Reinstall Ubuntu and choose Grub instead.
[02:16] <BslBryan> thiebaude: What is your budget?
[02:16] <[Crussd2]> GFXboot on Jaunty is not work :(
[02:17] <cabrey> mdg, it is a preview version, but it is extremely stable and the only missing functionality is plugins not working yet
[02:17] <fryguy> thiebaude: i'll sell you my dell
[02:17] <BslBryan> Cloudef: what is your problem again? I got lost in text. :-)
[02:17] <assem> how/where can i change the 'input methods' under gnome?  im-switch says my default is SCIM but most programs seem to use System (X input Method) by default
[02:17] <Cloudef> Ah finally <_<
[02:17] <Jota2k> BslBryan:  Reinstall
[02:17] <Cloudef> BslBryan: My proplem is that mouse randomly doubleclicks
[02:17] <Jota2k> ONLY REINSTALL IS THE SOLUTION ???????
[02:17] <thiebaude> fryguy: i have to wait just a little while
[02:17] <Cloudef> BslBryan: It started happening when i updated from hardy to jaunty
[02:17] <cabrey> !caps
[02:18] <Cloudef> BslBryan: I think its because of the HAL
[02:18] <BslBryan> Cloudef: Try this:
[02:18] <thiebaude> fryguy: what is the specs?
[02:18] <BslBryan> Cloudef: System --> Preferences --> Mouse
[02:18] <fryguy> thiebaude: core2duo, 2gb ram, maxed out screen, ati video card, intel proset wireless
[02:18] <cabrey> ati video card oh dear
[02:18] <BslBryan> Cloudef: Touchpad
[02:18] <slevin> hi all
[02:18] <patapouf> Hi All, I've spend some time trying to improve performance on my display for an ATI Radeon card R300 and I get no where. So I decide to downgrade to xorg 1.5.2. Do any people here have some good doc I can follow to downgrade ??
[02:18] <Chiggins> RHorse - got to town with this, haha ..... http://pastebin.com/m4f6f16a3
[02:19] <BslBryan> Cloudef: Uncheck enable mouse clicks with touchpad.
[02:19] <Cloudef> BslBryan: I dont have touchpad tab or section there
[02:19] <Cloudef> BslBryan: Also this is desktop :P
[02:19] <BslBryan> Cloudef: We're probably on different versions.
[02:19] <BslBryan> Cloudef: What are the options?
[02:20] <BslBryan> Or tabs?
[02:20] <Cloudef> BslBryan: General and Easy Access(something)
[02:20] <cabrey> patapouf, what ati card?
[02:20] <Cloudef> BslBryan: The interface is in finnish
[02:20] <BslBryan> Cloudef: Ah. That complicates things! :-) What version of Ubuntu are you using?
[02:20] <patapouf> cabrey: It's a Radeon Mobility X300 (M22) -> R300
[02:21] <Cloudef> BslBryan: Like i said i updated from Hardy to Jaunty so Jaunty 9.04 =)
[02:21] <cabrey> patapouf, ah so official ati drivers don't work
[02:21] <Cloudef> BslBryan: Thats when the problem started aswell
[02:21] <mdg> Chiggins: you trying to set up wireless?
[02:21] <Cloudef> BslBryan: I think the proplem is related to HAL and needs to fiddle around with FDI files
[02:21] <BslBryan> Cloudef: I will be back in a couple of minutes. I'm going to try to figure out how to give you the equivalent instructions.
[02:21] <cabrey> patapouf, im not sure if there is a doc on downgrading X, but i vaguely recall one. have you searched help.ubuntu.com?
[02:22] <Cloudef> BslBryan: When i do lshal > lshal.txt
[02:22] <patapouf> cabrey: Officialy the fglrx driver doesn't work and sine xorg 1.6 the ati radeon driver doesn't realy perform well ..
[02:22] <Cloudef> BslBryan: I get weird line about Macihntosh mouse emulation
[02:22] <kill3r> hey
[02:22] <Cloudef> BslBryan: I suggest this is the proplem as Mac has only one button
[02:23] <Dreamglider> how can i fix a VLC frame drag problem, all file's have framedrag/bleeding on scene change and on fast forwarde/rewind, totem movie player does not have the problem.
[02:23] <BslBryan> Cloudef: Hm.
[02:23] <BslBryan> I don't think that my original solution will work, then.
[02:23] <SeaPhor> patapouf, BslBryan , as of now , ATI does not support ANY compiz enabled, and External vga, but is comming soon
[02:23] <Sarago> up and running on my ubuntu install
[02:24] <Cloudef> BslBryan: About the mouse itself, its Labtec Optical
[02:24] <cypha> how come my terminal window keeps showing up on my second screen?
[02:24] <BslBryan> Cloudef: Let me do a little research.
[02:24] <Cloudef> BslBryan: Sure =)
[02:24] <mdg> hi cypha !
[02:24] <cypha> also how can i get xmms2 removed with all the other stuff it installed with it? like xmms2-core
[02:24] <cypha> ?
[02:24] <cypha> hey mdg
[02:24] <Sarago> Definintely going to switch to fluxbox though... gnome is just a little slow for me
[02:25] <halberd> how can I find out what the filesystem is on my USB Seagate external hard disk?
[02:25] <Laura4656545> Have Ubuntu 8.04 and can't connect to the internet with a Dell Dimension 2400. (not wireless) Can someone troubleshoot for me, please?
[02:25] <halberd> it mounts read only but the filesystem is unknown
[02:25] <patapouf> SeaPhor: hum?! Well it doesn't match my info. I'm running the radeon driver with compiz enable. In fact, I get better performance with Compiz than metaticy+compositing .. :S Also, I'm running it on dual screen :S
[02:25] <halberd> I need it to mount rw of course...
[02:25] <Cloudef> BslBryan: Oh yes, I forgot to mentioin that when i used Windows some years ago the proplem existed there too, But in ubuntu it gone away until Jaunty
[02:25] <mdg> Laura4656545: You are using a wired connection?
[02:25] <patapouf> SeaPhor: I guess we are not talking avbout the same driver, I hope
[02:25] <Laura4656545> yes
[02:26] <RHorse> Chiggins: this is a wireless built in to the mb?
[02:26] <mdg> Laura4656545: You seen the little icon that looks like two windows on the menu bar - right side?
[02:26] <Chiggins> RHorse - no, pci card
[02:26] <unr3a1> hey all
[02:26] <SeaPhor> patapouf, BslBryan , all- i work at HP on the Linux dev team, i have daily meetings with issues from ATI (and others)
[02:27] <Mike_lifeguard> Once you install something from a .deb, do you need the file at all?
[02:27] <smultron> i keep getting "boot error" on the thinkpad trying to boot Ubuntu Netbook Remix dd'd to a flash drive. i'm on a thinkpad r40e. any ideas?
[02:27] <unr3a1> I am trying to mount a HD that is in a laptop through the live CD, and I am getting this error:  mount: Special device /dev/hda does not exist.
[02:27] <mdg> Laura4656545: Right click it and look at connection information
[02:27] <unr3a1> yet /dev/hda shows up when I do a fdisk
[02:27] <unr3a1> what gives?
[02:27] <cabrey> Mike_lifeguard, no
[02:27] <ctmjr> patapouf, have you tried the open source driver for your r300 card
[02:27] <mdg> Laura4656545: Also, is "enable networking" checkmarked?
[02:27] <Mike_lifeguard> cabrey: not even to uninstall?
[02:27] <RHorse> Chiggins: ah. it's not being seena at all. Try removing and reseating it. Then turn off puter and let sit a minute. Then turn on. See if this works.
[02:27] <BslBryan> SeaPhor: That's awesome. I know that ATI cards are great, so I'm actually surprised compositors don't work.
[02:27] <cabrey> Mike_lifeguard, thats right
[02:28] <Mike_lifeguard> sweet
[02:28] <Mike_lifeguard> thanks
[02:28] <cypha> how can i remove xmms2 and the other packages synaptic installed with it??
[02:28] <unr3a1> does anyone know what I can do to mount this device?
[02:28] <SeaPhor> patapouf, BslBryan , ATI's "official stance" at this time, is- unsupported til late june
[02:28] <BslBryan> Cloudef: Try this: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/debian-26/mouse-unwanted-double-click-241123/
[02:28] <RHorse> Chiggins: use wlconfig again
[02:29] <Cloudef> BslBryan: Thanks, ill check it out and report how it is
[02:29] <RHorse> Chiggins: use iwconfig again
[02:29] <BslBryan> Cloudef: awesome.
[02:29] <cypha> anyone???
[02:29] <SeaPhor> BslBryan, i have 6 test machines side-by-side, 5 have ati, 1 has nvidia, the nvidia blows them al away
[02:29] <Chiggins> RHorse - will do when i get in ubuntu
[02:29] <patapouf> SeaPhor, then I guess we gonna have some improvement in next Ubuntu release ...
[02:29] <cabrey> cypha, use synaptic
[02:29] <cypha> how can i remove all the packages synatpic installed with xmms2
[02:29] <cypha> i did use synaptic
[02:29] <SeaPhor> *all
[02:29] <BslBryan> SeaPhor: Yeah, I love nVIDIA cards, while sometimes they are hard to configure with Linux.
[02:29] <cypha> it installed xmms2-core and some other stuff too though
[02:29] <BslBryan> I have an NVIDIA Geforce card.
[02:30] <m0biu5> cypha: did they show up for autoremoval?
[02:30] <cypha> no
[02:30] <cypha> and i chose to "completely remove"
[02:30] <cabrey> SeaPhor, how is it ati is allowed to drop support for their cards that fast?
[02:30] <Cloudef> BslBryan: I dont use XF86, i use Xorg xD
[02:30] <cabrey> SeaPhor, it makes consumers purchase new ones
[02:30] <cypha> but when i opened synaptic back up, xmms2-core was still installed
[02:30] <hanasaki> I have multiple NIC's in the pc . one is a pci tulip based linksys 10./100 nc100  it does not show up in lspci... how do I get it to show up and get a dhcp address?
[02:30] <BslBryan> Cloudef: Back to the googling board. :-)
[02:30] <Hilikus> hey guys
[02:31] <Dreamglider> how can i fix a VLC frame drag problem, all file's have framedrag/bleeding on scene change and on fast forwarde/rewind, totem movie player does not have the problem.
[02:31] <m0biu5> cypha: try apt-get autoremove xmms2-core
[02:31] <m0biu5> cypha: in a terminal
[02:31] <SeaPhor> cabrey, its only the "Linux" that they do,
[02:31] <cypha> i reinstalled xmms2 to see what can be done
[02:31] <cypha> so autoremove xmms2?
[02:31] <SeaPhor> cabrey, and then only with compiz enabled
[02:31] <cabrey> SeaPhor, I know thats my point. some people who have relatively new ati cards were pissed when they found out
[02:31] <m0biu5> cypha: yeah, see what happens..
[02:32] <hanasaki> how do I find the driver for my NIC ?
[02:32] <fryguy> hanasaki: it's probably already installed
[02:32] <cypha> m0biu5: worked!
[02:32] <cypha> thanks
[02:32] <cypha> now i'll try audacious
[02:32] <cypha> xmms2 sucked
[02:32] <cypha> ok...second question
[02:33] <FloodBot2> cypha: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:33] <cypha> when i adjust the volume from my keyboard...i see the volume adjusting thing on the top right
[02:33] <BslBryan> Cloudef: Run this in a terminal and see if a single click acts as a double click. This command will test to see if your touchpad is just failing.
[02:33] <cypha> but the volume doesn'ta ctually change
[02:33] <BslBryan> xev
[02:33] <SeaPhor> cabrey, BslBryan , to make it even worse, HP is going with SLED....
[02:33] <hanasaki> fryguy:  doesn't show up in lspci and ifconfig doesn't show the eth... what can I do?
[02:33] <cypha> even though the bar deminishes
[02:33] <assem> how/where can i change the 'input methods' under gnome?  im-switch says my default is SCIM but most programs seem to use System (X input Method) by default
[02:34] <fryguy> hanasaki: is it onboard? is it enabled in the bios?  If it doesn't show up in lspci then there is nothing linux can do about it.
[02:34] <Cloudef> BslBryan: What am i supposed to do when running the command?
[02:34] <BslBryan> SeaPhor: At least HP is getting away from its Windows bias.
[02:34] <BslBryan> Cloudef: Click.
[02:34] <hanasaki> fryguy:  the onboard works fine it's a SIS... this is a pci I bought for a 2nd NIC
[02:34] <Sarago> anyone like xfce?
[02:34] <hanasaki> fryguy:  the link lights are on
[02:34] <SeaPhor> SCIM is EVIL and shoud just DIE! and develop a different app...
[02:34] <cattellar> any idea where I can get some nice almost plain colour wallpapers, four different colours?
[02:34] <m0biu5> cypha: hmm, well there are multiple levels usually.. right click on the volume and watch all of the bars to see what changes with keyboard input
[02:34] <cabrey> SeaPhor, i still think its a lawsuit waiting to happen
[02:34] <fryguy> hanasaki: pastebin lspci -vvv then
[02:35] <Cloudef> When moving mouse and clicking
[02:35] <BslBryan> catellar: I will make you a transparent background, and you can change your background to any color you want whenever you want.
[02:35] <Cloudef> BslBryan: I get double click event
[02:35] <hanasaki> !pastebin
[02:35] <BslBryan> catellar: start a chat with me, and give me your email address.
[02:35] <BslBryan> Cloudef: Even though you've only clicked once?
[02:36] <Cloudef> BslBryan: Yes
[02:36] <hanasaki> fryguy:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/193126/
[02:36] <BslBryan> Cloudef: This is a sign of a failing mouse. You might want to try another driver, because that may be the problem, as I really don't think your mouse is failing.... Highly unlikely.
[02:37] <Cloudef> BslBryan: Yes, it worked fine before HAL implentation
[02:37] <Cloudef> BslBryan: How can i try other drivers for my mouse?
[02:37] <BslBryan> Cloudef: Actually, wait, I may have found a problem.
[02:37] <fryguy> hanasaki: are you sure te card is seated correctly? if it doesn't show up in lspci then it's a hardware issue
[02:37] <BslBryan> Or, solution, rather. :-)
[02:37] <Cloudef> Ok lets see =)
[02:37] <hanasaki> fryguy: the sis190 works .. that is on the motherboard.... the other is a nc100
[02:38] <gartral> anyone know of any html5 based browsers?
[02:38] <cypha> m0biu5: nothing changes
[02:38] <cypha> it was working yesterday
[02:38] <cypha> so taht's weird
[02:38] <hanasaki> fry.. I am sure.  it is an old card I had in another box ages ago.  it worked
[02:38] <iGoogle> if anyone use cups-pdf here?
[02:38] <kill3r> hey
[02:38] <MDXRL> what?
[02:38] <hanasaki> fryguy:
[02:39] <fryguy> hanasaki: if it's not listed in lspci then it's a hardware problem
[02:39] <hanasaki> fryguy:  could it be a conflict between the onboard and the nic pci? although I tried deactivating the onboard in bios and got the same bad results
[02:39] <fryguy> hanasaki: no
[02:39] <BslBryan> Cloudef: I'm afraid I can't find anything. This is getting annoying, and I'm not even the one with the problem.
[02:40] <fryguy> hanasaki: just take the card out and put it back in (maybe in a different slot)
[02:40] <MDXRL> anyone here can help me?
[02:40] <ignascio> what?
[02:40] <hanasaki> fryguy:  I tried both slots :(   how many notches in a pci card connector?
[02:40] <gartral> anyone know of any html5 based/capable browsers?
[02:40] <fryguy> gartral: the html5 spec isn't done yet, so good luck finding anything usable
[02:40] <gartral> hanasaki: one
[02:40] <Cloudef> BslBryan: Yeah it is not your fault, i wonder if i could revert back to Xorg Mouse settings
[02:41] <Cloudef> BslBryan: The problem is afterall that HAL misconfigures my mouse
[02:41] <BslBryan> Cloudef: What do you mean?
[02:41] <gartral> fryguy: im looking for *any* rendering capability
[02:41] <hanasaki> gartral:  and fryguy the motherboard has one notch... the cards each have two
[02:41] <iGoogle> if anyone use cups-pdf here?
[02:41] <MDXRL> Whats that
[02:41] <MDXRL> 0_o
[02:41] <cabrey> ^ that shit sucks
[02:41] <dansku2> how can i create and configure users for vsftp:
[02:41] <gartral> hanasaki: are the cards longer or shorter than the slot?
[02:41] <cabrey> oops
[02:42] <Cloudef> BslBryan: My mouse settings in Xorg.conf are commented and there is text that we are using HAL for detecting settings nowon
[02:42] <ctmjr> !ohmy
[02:42] <cabrey> !ohmy > cabrey
[02:42] <MDXRL> VSFTP?
[02:42] <hanasaki> gartral:  they  are both the exact length .. just the extra notch
[02:42] <BslBryan> Cloudef: Yeah, try uncommenting them.
[02:42] <Cloudef> BslBryan: I've tried but no change :(
[02:42] <cypha> anyone know how I can get the volume control on my keyboard to actually control the volume? it worked yesterday
[02:42] <ignascio> do any of you know how to insatall yuor computer drivers on linux?
[02:42] <cypha> not sure why it stopped
[02:42] <Hilikus> i'm trying to configure sensord to decrease the logging frequency since it is flooding my syslog. in the docs it says there's a config file, sensors.conf but it seems that is just to configure the chips being observed, who do i configure the frequency? there's a command line switch for that but i don't want to have to change the startup command since this is something probably done better with a config file
[02:42] <BslBryan> Cloudef: X needs to be restarted before the change will be implemented.
[02:42] <Cloudef> BslBryan: I know :P
[02:42] <fryguy> ignascio: what driver are you trying to do
[02:43] <ignascio> how ?
[02:43] <BslBryan> Cloudef: Sorry. :-)
[02:43] <ignascio> all of them
[02:43] <Chiggins> RHorse - there was no such command as wlconfig, and taking the card out and ploping it back in did nothing
[02:43] <ignascio> if its posible
[02:43] <mysoogal> hi everybody can someone please help me learn how to tie this php script together with mysql http://pastebin.com/m4e2bb294
[02:43] <Cloudef> BslBryan: Well i guess i have to wait until Dev team fixes this, there is launchpad bug about this issue with cordless logitech mouse
[02:43] <hanasaki> gartral:  here is the pic https://www.superclearance.com/shop/product_image.php?imageid=696
[02:43] <Cloudef> BslBryan: They said they gonna fix this with information provided
[02:43] <mysoogal> i cant figure how to connect to mysql and insert the output info :(
[02:43] <RHorse> Chiggins: the command is iwconfig.
[02:43] <fryguy> mysoogal: ##php
[02:43] <mysoogal> thx
[02:43] <Cloudef> BslBryan: Until that i have to buy new mouse or just bear with it
[02:44] <BslBryan> Cloudef: Well, at least it's a bug report! That means it will soon be fixed.
[02:44] <ignascio> so how do insatll them
[02:44] <Cloudef> BslBryan: Yeah :P Ubuntu tends to get updates fast
[02:44] <Chiggins> RHorse - you typed wlconfig... i copied and pasted what you said :p
[02:44] <BslBryan> Cloudef: I've enjoyed speaking with you, do you have a Launchpad account or wiki page?
[02:44] <RHorse> Chiggins: I know, but then I corrected myself. Check it out when you have a chance.
[02:45] <gartral> hanasaki: that looks like a reversable card... why they would make a reversable nic card is beyond me..
[02:45] <Cloudef> Cloudef: Nope i dont have
[02:45] <Chiggins> RHorse - Alright, going back to linux now
[02:45] <qcjn> hi, my mouse won't work anymore in ubuntu 8.04  . ???
[02:45] <BslBryan> Cloudef: Ah. Oh well. :-)
[02:45] <hanasaki> gartral:  what is reversable?
[02:45] <Cloudef> BslBryan: I have blog tho
[02:45] <RHorse> :)
[02:45] <Hilikus> anyone using sensord?
[02:45] <BslBryan> Cloudef: Link?
[02:45] <Cloudef> BslBryan: www.headerfile.net
[02:46] <qcjn> remember once, it happened, and since i had a back up of a conf file, just replaced it, and everything was fine
[02:46] <qcjn>  ??
[02:46] <qcjn> but don't remember..xorg.conf or ??
[02:46] <hanasaki> what is a reversable pci card for?
[02:46] <fireslayer26> Can someone help me install my wlan card?
[02:47] <calmbola> does anyone know the difference between the 8.04 regular releaseand the mini standard edition?
[02:47] <Cloudef> BslBryan: The blog is mainly about my Project and learnings of C++
[02:47] <BslBryan> Cloudef: That project is awesome. :-)
[02:48] <ignascio> who said knows how drivers are insatleed
[02:48] <BslBryan> I would actually suggest becoming active on Launchpad, and starting a project.  I'd like to be involved.
[02:48] <Cloudef> BslBryan: I'm reverse-engineering MapleStory so when the media is extracted and converted trough my "Compiler" you will have Client with Maplestory media
[02:48] <cypha> can smoeone help me with keyboard volume control????????????
[02:48] <ctmjr> qcjn, /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:48] <Cloudef> BslBryan: I do also the server
[02:48] <gartral> hanasaki: if that's what that card is, it's a special PCI hardware that can be "turned around" to make internal plugs through pci
[02:49] <qcjn> ctmjr, so it has to do with the mouse ??
[02:49] <qcjn> ctmjr, well it can
[02:49] <BslBryan> Anyway, getting late.  Bye, everyone. :-)
[02:49] <Cloudef> BslBryan: Bye
[02:49] <ignascio> any knows how to install drivers on ubuntu linux?
[02:49] <gaston_> hola
[02:50] <RHorse> !es
[02:50] <suika-san> #ubuntu-br
[02:50] <gaston_> alguien con ganas de hablar de tecnologia
[02:50] <ignascio> ?
[02:50] <hanasaki> gartral:  hmm interesting... seems I am out of luck?
[02:50] <defaultuser> g
[02:50] <suika-san> hi, someone could help me with a problem in the sound of system?
[02:51] <suika-san> no one?
[02:51] <ignascio> could some one help me to install my drivers? please
[02:51] <qcjn> ctmjr, i have a xorg back up of the feb 14 2009
[02:51] <RHorse> !sound
[02:52] <suika-san> ubottu, i already have alsa running
[02:52] <suika-san> crap
[02:52] <mdg> what's the command to list PCI wifi card pci id?
[02:52] <cabrey> lspci
[02:52] <ctmjr> qcjn, is that the one you backed up? you can compare the 2 and see what is different
[02:52] <dsdeiz> how are you ubottu
[02:52] <gartral> !hi | dsdeiz
[02:52] <qcjn> good idea
[02:52] <dsdeiz> lol
[02:53] <qcjn> ctmjr, good idea
[02:53] <dsdeiz> !bot
[02:53] <SeaPhor> mdg, lshw -C network
[02:53] <gartral> !msgthebot | dsdeiz
[02:53] <qcjn> ctmjr, thanks , i ll start with that
[02:53] <dsdeiz> cool.. lol
[02:54] <moblin> hi
[02:54] <ctmjr> qcjn, your welcome
[02:54] <suika-san> someone could help me with the sounds of system?
[02:54] <mdg> !BCM4381
[02:54] <suika-san> none are working, although i can hear with no problems mp3 and videos
[02:54] <gartral> suika-san: what(dont) you hear?
[02:55] <mdg> !BCM4318
[02:55] <suika-san> gartral, i hear everything fine in ubuntu, but the sound that makes when a window is closing or the login sound dont come up
[02:55] <gartral> suika-san: go to system>Preferences>Sounds and make sure all the audio devices ar set to the same thing
[02:56] <SeaPhor> mdg, have you got ALL updates and enabled the restricted drivers?
[02:56] <suika-san> gartral, they are already set to use alsa
[02:56] <gartral> suika-san: make sure there set too the same device, trust me, that window isnt a mixer
[02:56] <mintyfresh> Got a bit of an issue here. Can't boot into Ubuntu on a dualboot machine.. update the kernel some time ago, and now it won't boot.. tells me uuid xxx not found, drops to busybox.
[02:56] <RHorse> iirc, there is a system sounds toggle somewhere. anyone?
[02:57] <suika-san> gartral, all to alsa and using realtek alc 883 (my soundcard
[02:57] <mintyfresh> I've tried the grub command line and setup (hd0,2) -> no go. Tried supergrubdisk. -> same.
[02:57] <gartral> suika-san: ok, one sec
[02:57] <suika-san> gartral, np
[02:58] <calmbola> does anyone know the difference between the 8.04 regular releaseand the mini standard edition?
[02:58] <mintyfresh> I'm at a bit of a loss.. no live cd to boot into.. anyone got an suggestions?
[02:58] <ctmjr> suika-san, in the sound preferences you should have 2 taps one for sound and one for pref click the sound one and make sure the boxes are checked
[02:59] <carpii> download a livecd?
[02:59] <suika-san> ctmjr, those are all checked...
[02:59] <gartral> suika-san: same window, go into your sounds tab and make sure you have sounds set for actions (Ubuntu 9.04 ships with most of these turned off)
[02:59] <mintyfresh> carpii:  I'm talking about fixing grub.. no cdr's here.. shouldn't _need_ to boot off livecd..
[03:00] <suika-san> gartral, all boxes are checked. i'm trying to use alternative sounds to each action
[03:00] <carpii> ok, well i hadnt been following your full conversation :)
[03:00] <Chiggins> RHorse - i ran the command, i got no wireless extensions for eth0, eth1, and lo
[03:00] <gartral> suika-san: ohh... are the wavs or oggs?
[03:00] <suika-san> gartral, sry, i forgot to say that i'm using intrepid
[03:00] <carpii> not got a 4G usb stick you can use ?
[03:00] <suika-san> gartral, .wav, theres a difference in using ogg or wav:??
[03:00] <bc> mintyfresh: not sure about your problem, but make sure the UUID that grub is asking about exists. I'd boot it with the Live CD, then run blkid to look for the UUID.
[03:00] <carpii> i agree, you shouldnt need to, but hey, thats life
[03:01] <gartral> suika-san: same question... are they Wav.. or Ogg Vorbis sound bytes?
[03:01] <suika-san> gartral, wav
[03:01] <bc> mintyfresh: any live CD will work, btw
[03:01] <suika-san> gartral: theres some problem with wav??
[03:01] <gartral> suika-san: they need too be Ogg Vorbis in Gnome for some reason
[03:01] <ctmjr> suika-san,ok go to system precedences/sessions and start up programs make sure the gnome login sound is enabled
[03:01] <mintyfresh> bc: Can't boot off livedcd. No media available. And system doesn't boot off usb. tried supergrubdisk, no go.
[03:01] <RHorse> Chiggins: rephrase your question to reflect that your wireless card is not detected and use the lspci and ifconfig pastebin results. I don't know how to fix this.
[03:02] <suika-san> gartral: serious? oh man... i'm trying to use the mac osx theme for ubuntu and they come with wav only
[03:02] <bc> mintyfresh: how far does grub get?
[03:02] <ctmjr> *preferences
[03:02] <suika-san> ctmjr, they are already enabled =D  i did some research before coming here
[03:02] <Chiggins> RHorse well the drivers are showing up as restricted, could that be something?
[03:02] <gartral> suika-san: technically.. no, not at all... but gnome is 'tarded when it come's to wav... but its easy enough to encode with wav2ogg
[03:02] <mintyfresh> bc: Bombs at busy box, can't find partition.
[03:03] <suika-san> ctmjr, i would be a lazy if didnt any research
[03:03] <suika-san> gartral, that is the name of the package?
[03:03] <Batty4> When doing things process intensive such as joining movies that are 500+ meg using cat, I get other applications that I'm trying to use to become gray and unusable for periods of approximately 10 seconds or so.  I've only noticed with Ubuntu 9.04, and no previous versions.  Any ideas?
[03:03] <gartral> suika-san: sorry, oggenc
[03:03] <Mkop> how can I get a newer version of libexo than is in synaptic? apparently there exists a 0.3.4, but synaptic only has 0.3.1
[03:03] <mintyfresh> bc: However, from grub commandline setup (hd0) does seem to work, at least it reports back positively.
[03:03] <RHorse> Chiggins: restircted means they are not open source. You can try reverting to open source drivers, but I don't know the procedure. Sorry!
[03:04] <bc> mintyfresh: see if blkid is available in busybox prompt. maybe do a df from there, make sure the disks are there, then perhaps see if you can edit the menu.list manually
[03:04] <ruser> hey.  all of the intrcutions i've seen point to 'system > administration > hardware drivers'  but i don't have the hardware drivers in my  menu. how can i fix that?
[03:04] <suika-san> gartral, aptitude didnt find nothing with this name
[03:04] <mintyfresh> mintyfresh: Can edit menu.1st from Windows, not a problem.
[03:04] <gartral> suika-san: oggenc is installed by default... type oggenc --help into a console
[03:04] <suika-san> gartral, but if the problem is only with wav 90% of my questions are answered
[03:04] <altf2o> Hey folks quick question. Been searching around online, seeing a lot of folks having performance issues w/ Ubuntu 9.04 OOTB. I had the same, went to 8.10 w/ the latest Kernel, worked flawless. Came back to 9.04, 2.6.28-11-generic , noticing the same again (this time w/ Ext4 FS). Anyone noticing anything similar?
[03:05] <suika-san> gartral, =p sry, im still newbie to linux...
[03:05] <suika-san> gartral, let me try that
[03:05]  * altf2o running under a minimal workload also. (Ex: Firefox3, Chat, MP3 playing, etc...)
[03:05] <RHorse> Chiggins: or you can try the winduhs drivers with ndiswrapper
[03:05] <RHorse> !ndiswrapper
[03:05] <suika-san> gartral, command not found
[03:05] <suika-san> gartral, may i install vorbis-tools?
[03:05] <mintyfresh> bc, sorry. Can edit menu.1st from windows.
[03:06] <JM> after updating to a new kernel such as 2.6.30 do I have to run any commands to update drivers (such as modprobe -a)?
[03:06] <gartral> suika-san: yea, I forgot, your on 8.10
[03:06] <bc> mintyfresh: you can maybe get around the uuid problem temporarily by addressing the /dev/*d* directly instead of using the UUID
[03:06] <suika-san> gartral is worhty upgrading to jacky?
[03:06] <bc> mintyfresh: so long as you know the boot device and partition
[03:07] <mintyfresh> bc: Yeah, tried that also.. syntax is root=/dev/hdaX, no?
[03:07] <Chiggins> RHorse - where do i go from there
[03:07] <gartral> suika-san: it's Jaunty.. and no.. if anything, I can recommend a Downgrade to 8.04.2
[03:07] <Bearcat> folks, i just got an asus eee 901. I am running the eebuntu 3.0 live (not installed just off the usb).  What do i need to do to get wireless working. I have lots of experiance with wired networking but NONE with wireless. I see that the module rt2860sta is loaded, but what am i looking for in /dev?
[03:08] <bc> mintyfresh: mine -> kernel      /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.28-11-generic root=UUID=4d3f5d35-6278-4538-a998-fd21590972e0 ro quiet splash
[03:08] <bkt5401> Has anyone tried upgrading 8.04 from 9.04 using apt? is it usable? Or should I stick with 8.04.2? I'm completely new to linux but a "windows power user"
[03:08] <gartral> suika-san: Jaunty is... a fun OS to configure... and I'm using Fun as a geek term
[03:08] <ruser> hey.  all of the intrcutions i've seen point to 'system > administration > hardware drivers'  but i don't have the hardware drivers in my  menu. how can i fix that?
[03:08] <suika-san> gartral, oops... sry for the mistake. 8.04.2 is more stable than intrepid?
[03:08] <bc> mintyfresh: assign the drive to root instead of the UUID
[03:08] <RHorse> Chiggins: it's unusual to have a complete failure to detect hw, but it does occur with some systems. Ask here or do a search on google. Sorry can't be of more help.
[03:08] <JM> After a kernel update do I need to run a command to update drivers (such as modprobe -a)?
[03:08] <bc> mintyfresh: if there is a uuid live above it, comment it out
[03:08] <suika-san> gartral, XD i do like to have fun on a geek term also, but i still dont know much about it to be sooooo fun
[03:08] <gartral> suika-san: yes, much... much more than intrepid, and So is Jaunty, but I won't recommend a newbie pick up Jaunty
[03:08] <bc> mintyfresh: s/live/line/
[03:08] <mintyfresh> bc: Sure, do I'd do a root=/dev/hda2 for example?
[03:09] <mintyfresh> *so
[03:09] <Batty4> When doing things process intensive such as joining movies that are 500+ meg using cat, I get other applications that I'm trying to use to become gray and unusable for periods of approximately 10 seconds or so.  I've only noticed with Ubuntu 9.04, and no previous versions.  Any ideas?
[03:09] <Bearcat> ahh, according to ifconfig -a ra0 is loaded.  I have my wirless security turnned off on my router to make this easier. I have the "editing wireless connectoin" dialog up, i'm just not sure what to do with it
[03:09] <RHorse> Chiggins: also if you have usenet, try alt.os.linux.ubuntu
[03:09] <bc> mintyfresh: looks right if that is the partition /boot is on
[03:09] <Bearcat> any help would be appreciated
[03:09] <altf2o> JM: from what i've seen after running your 'dpkg -i ....' commands to install the image *.deb and headers *.deb, a reboot will suffice.
[03:09] <suika-san> gartral, good to know... maybe i stick with intrepid since i'm afraid about everything going down again downgrading
[03:10] <altf2o> mind you i've always copied over the default .config into my new kernel and built from there. If you tweaked a lot something more may be needed.
[03:10] <JM> altf2o: thanks, is that only for ubuntu or do other distros require you to do something else?
[03:10] <bc> mintyfresh: you can edit boot stanzas in the grub boot menu, too, by the why. the e key over a line will let you edit and experiment until you get it to boot
[03:10] <cypha> http://boostmyworld.wordpress.com/2009/05/30/how-to-fix-that-skype-on-ubuntu-9-04-got-no-sound/
[03:10] <cypha> is that recommended?
[03:10] <cypha> please hilight me
[03:10] <mintyfresh> bc: Third partition on the drive, so that _should_ be hda2.. however, I've tried via guesswork hda2, sda2.. no go.. anyway I can grab the actual partition name somewhere?
[03:10] <Bearcat> i mean i don't knwo what an ssid or a bsid is. I've looked aroudn the web for pointers.
[03:10] <ruser> hey.  all of the intrcutions i've seen point to 'system > administration > hardware drivers'  but i don't have the hardware drivers in my  menu. how can i fix that?  Or where can i find the hardware drivers  gui thingy
[03:11] <bc> mintyfresh: IIRC 'e' will not save it though, so maybe remember what you type (if boot then works)
[03:11] <lstarnes> cypha: I would not recommend that
[03:11] <mintyfresh> bc: And, yes, I've been experimenting for the last couple of hours :/
[03:11] <cypha> k
[03:11] <cypha> but i can't get sound working in skype
[03:11] <altf2o> JM: other distro may vary. If you've built something as a module and haven't set it to auto load, you'd likely have to modprob it. From what i've seen however, that's usually only required if you're adding modules to a running kernel.
[03:11] <cypha> i have sound out as DEfault Device, but it doesn't work
[03:11] <rainwalker1> I installed ubuntu on a second hard drive in my computer, with vista on the other, and now when I boot I get grub error 21. the vista drive is set to boot first because my bios won't let me change the boot order
[03:11] <cypha> i also tried every other device that was listed
[03:11] <JM> thanks again :)
[03:11] <altf2o> i only use Ubuntu now adays, so i'm honestly not to up to date on what others use.
[03:11] <gartral> cypha: try Gizmo!
[03:11] <bc> mintyfresh: ah. well can you mount the disk from busybox and poke around? (I don't know)
[03:11] <cypha> what's that?
[03:12] <gartral> cypha: a more open VOiP client, compatable with Skype nets
[03:12] <cypha> ?
[03:12] <mintyfresh> mintyfresh: No, don't think so. I can poke around from windows with ext2/3 driver.
[03:12] <cypha> so i can make calls to phones with my skype account through gizmo?
[03:12] <suika-san> gartral, thanks for all, i will try your suggestion
[03:12] <cypha> because i've already paid skype
[03:12] <altf2o> rainwalker1: if the goal is to get back into Vista, booting w/ your Vista CD (IIRC) will allow you to restore the boot sector. As far as the Grub error 21, you may be able to repair that w/ a live Ubuntu CD, perhaps someone can chime on on that.
[03:12] <cypha> plus my buddy list on there
[03:13] <suika-san> gartral, and sry to bother
[03:13] <mintyfresh> bc: Anywhere I can look for an actual drive name? /etc/fstab or somewhere else?
[03:13] <gartral> cypha: correct, and Gizmo has it's own side network
[03:13] <bc> mintyfresh: is /boot on a seperate partition? if not then it's what ever partition / is
[03:13] <gartral> suika-san: no bother.. its more bothersome when your computer doesnt work
[03:13] <rainwalker1> altf2o: I want to be able to choose which OS to boot at at startup, even though they're on separate drives. I'll try using the vista disc, but I know nothing about repairing error 21 with the live cd (which I'm on now)
[03:14] <cypha> can i use all of skype's features?
[03:14] <cypha> like setting my profile
[03:14] <mintyfresh> bc: One main partition, 1 swap. (And 2 preceding win partitions)
[03:14] <cypha> and my profile message
[03:14] <bc> mintyfresh: grub passes off to the kernel, so grub uses different syntax hd(0,0) etc
[03:14] <RHorse> Chiggins: you still there?
[03:14] <altf2o> rainwalker1: this may help: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=62717
[03:14] <mintyfresh> bc: Sure. I defo know the partition's on (hd0,2)
[03:14] <bc> mintyfresh: also make sure you don't have a bunch of drives connected
[03:15] <suika-san> gartral, good to know! it was a silly thing to fix but it was bugging me
[03:15] <altf2o> i'd save the vista restoration for a last resort, as it will most likely result in you having to reinstall Ubuntu.
[03:15] <lstarnes> cypha: did you try http://www.pulseaudio.org/wiki/PerfectSetup#Skype ?
[03:15] <bc> mintyfresh: UUID is supposed to solve the 'many confusing drives' issue.. which is sort of a problem in this case :P
[03:15] <mintyfresh> bc: Nope, just the single partitioned drive here.
[03:16] <gartral> suika-san: that's ok... try putting a second sound card in your coputer! real fun starts then!
[03:16] <mintyfresh> bc: Odd thing is, all was working fine until a kernel update some time ago. Then it all went bad.
[03:16] <lakotajames> Hey, what's a nice, lightwieght DE?  I'm using gnome right now, but I think I would like to try a lighter one.  I really like the little black box in the corner, though.  Is that part of gnome?
[03:16] <bc> mintyfresh: cat /etc/fstab (or however you would do that from Windows) and see if it mentions the UUID, and see if it's the same UUID grub is complaining about
[03:16] <Hilikus> where's the config file for logrotate that takes care of syslog or user.log? i dont see any directive in /etc/logrotate.conf or anywhere in /etc/logrotate.d/
[03:16]  * gartral needs new paws
[03:16] <mintyfresh> bc: Think I did that already.. let me check again.
[03:16] <bc> mintyfresh: if not the same, then take the UUID from fstab and edit menu.list
[03:16] <RHorse> lakotajames: I love fluxbox. But there's also jwm, blackbox, xfce, and others
[03:17] <dsdeiz> hi, i can't load make jsp sites in firefox ubuntu work properly :(
[03:17] <suika-san> gartral, not enough money to spend on my pc lately... the only soundcard offline i could buy is those usb ones
[03:17] <suika-san> gartral, =(
[03:17] <dsdeiz> !jsp
[03:17] <lakotajames> RHorse: does that little notification thing in the corner work with flux box?
[03:17] <gartral> suika-san: that would make life easier...
[03:18] <Chiggins> RHorse - yeah sorry. i had to run somewhere.... ill try on a forum i go to and see if anyone there knows
[03:18] <kbrosnan> dsdeiz:http://java.com/en/download/manual.jsp ?
[03:18] <cypha> looking at it now lstarnes
[03:18] <RHorse> lakotajames: fluxbox will run most dock apps. See here: dockapps.org.
[03:18] <dsdeiz> lxde is a light de i think
[03:18] <suika-san> gartral, those aren't crappy:??
[03:18] <dsdeiz> isn't fluxbox a wm?
[03:19] <fluvvell> I've just logged into my friends live cd to help recover his grub boot info, he accidentally said yes to a question about lilo while upgrading to jaunty yesterday... now he gets a blank screen after the grub boot menu
[03:19] <fcheslack> anyone know how gedit decides what file types to display in file browser pane? (not hidden files toggle)
[03:19] <merther> Hi, can anyone assist me in setting up wireless on my other computer?
[03:19] <lakotajames> RHorse: I don't mean the dock like in osx.  I can go without that.  I mean the notification applet.
[03:19] <kinardo> hi...when I try to install something, NOT using the Synaptic Manager...I get no where...what would I be doing wrong?
[03:19] <fluvvell> if someone is good at boot recovery, I've downloaded and run athe boot_info_script032.sh off sourceforge.net so i have pages of good info
[03:20] <TimReichhart> I am looking for somebody that could help me to see if my dial up server is working
[03:20] <fluvvell> Im just trying to remember how to write the boot part to the root drive
[03:20] <RHorse> Chiggins: just for heck of it try sudo iwconfig eth0 and sudo iwconfig eth1. It looks like you have 2 ethernet connections, which is weird.
[03:20] <gartral> TimReichhart: dialup? are you making an ISP?
[03:21] <Chiggins> RHorse - will do, but i gotta head out.  is there any way i can message you tomorrow, or will you still be here
[03:21] <TimReichhart> im not making a isp its just a dial up server so when I leave home I can use free dial up there gartral
[03:22] <mintyfresh> bc: uuid seems correct, according to fstab.
[03:22] <pahom> hi all
[03:23] <TimReichhart> so do i have any takers to test this thing out
[03:23] <RHorse> Chiggins: tomorrow and Fri I can't be on, except for an hour or so from 0530 UTC
[03:23] <gartral> TimReichhart: is your home connection dial up, or a "High speed"?
[03:23] <twois10> Anyone able to get tethering workig with G1
[03:23] <TimReichhart> my home connection is high speed
[03:23] <Cry__Baby> should I type "gksudo nautilus" or "sudo nautilus" to copy a file from one user to another?
[03:23] <TimReichhart> there gartral
[03:23] <Chiggins> RHorse - alright ill try to stop by... thanks mucho! peace
[03:24] <gartral> TimReichhart: ok, just doing a sanity check... but I'm afraid actuial modems are a dying breed, noneof my systems have one
[03:24] <lstarnes> Cry__Baby: nautilus is graphical, so use gksudo
[03:25] <bc> mintyfresh: is vol_id available in busybox?
[03:25] <Cry__Baby> lstarnes: what does gksudo do that sudo wont?
[03:25] <Cry__Baby> !gksudo
[03:25] <gartral> cry_bnot break your configs
[03:25] <lstarnes> Cry__Baby: it handles the environment differently for the correct operation of graphical programs
[03:25] <gartral> Cry__Baby: not break your configs
[03:25] <Cry__Baby> lstarnes: yes thanks :)
[03:26] <mintyfresh> bc: Couldn't tell you offhand, I'd need to reboot this box.
[03:26] <Cry__Baby> gartral: ok
[03:26] <Cry__Baby> gksudo when using nautilus, got it :)
[03:26] <Slade> what is the xorg graphical config tool? For some reason X is not giving me the max resolution i can have. It's only letting me have 1024x768 when it should let me have up to 1920x1080
[03:26] <mintyfresh> Slade: grandr or xrandr
[03:26] <gartral> Slade: what GFX card do you use?
[03:27] <kinardo> whats the command for running a command from the terminal window?
[03:27] <Slade> gardar, intel 3500 series card. it's onboard
[03:27] <bc> mintyfresh: check this out: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=891378
[03:28] <wanna_learn_more> hi
[03:28] <wanna_learn_more> can i ask u something?
[03:28] <bc> mintyfresh: looks like he didn't solve it, but it lists some things to check.
[03:28] <mintyfresh> bc: Thanks,. looking.
[03:28] <wanna_learn_more> i have ubuntu server here
[03:28] <wanna_learn_more> and i have 2 wireless driver.madwifi and ath5k
[03:29] <Anis1201> I have a question about IT, hoping someone could help me
[03:29] <wanna_learn_more> how to select ath5k driver whenever my ubuntu box reboot?
[03:29] <wanna_learn_more> using modprobe?
[03:29] <Borre-go> what is you lspci wanna_learn_more =
[03:29] <Anis1201> I'm a programmer, just don't know the details of server software
[03:29] <Pici> Anis1201: #ubuntu-offtopic may be a better place to ask if its not Ubuntu support related.
[03:29] <Anis1201> it is ubuntu related cause I'm running it on a Ubuntu VPS
[03:29] <wanna_learn_more> Borre-go:both of them already working well
[03:29] <algoesbeyond> Hi all, I have a problem with my wireless access. I have tried the on-board adapter and also a card adapter and both will only connect at 1mbs. From my home network, to work and public wireless. Any ideas ?
[03:30] <wanna_learn_more> Borre-go:but i want to know how to choose ath5k?
[03:30] <wanna_learn_more> Borre-go:usually after boot i choose modprobe ath5k or modprobe ath_pci(madwifi)
[03:30] <Borre-go> mmmm just put the wrong card in the black list wanna_learn_more!
[03:31] <wanna_learn_more> Borre-go:i already do that
[03:31] <wanna_learn_more> Borre-go:the driver on linux is ath5k.ko?
[03:31] <Slade> anyone have any ideas how i can configure X to use that high resolution? xrandr is only going up to 1280x768. In windows it can do 1980x1080 @ 60 Hz
[03:31] <Borre-go> mmmmm
[03:31] <Anis1201> I own a Ubuntu VPS and a domain name, and I need to provide each subdomain of my domain with a webmin control panel
[03:31] <Anis1201> is that possible?
[03:31] <baba_b00ie> kinardo, just type the command
[03:31] <Borre-go> wanna_learn_more usualy is wl.ko
[03:31] <wanna_learn_more> Borre-go:i want to load ar5212.ko (wireless from mikrotik) to my ubuntu.i just want to try it
[03:32] <wanna_learn_more> i tried depmod ar5212.ko it works well..after that what should i do?
[03:32] <Borre-go> mmmm
[03:32] <``y7> i'm installing security cams at my house and most of the cams come with compatible software for windows. is there any ubuntu application that exists that will allow me to run 9 cams and do all the additional security stuff too?
[03:32] <mintyfresh> bc: Thanks for your help, going to try a reboot shortly after I've read some more forums.,
[03:32] <merther> would BSSID be the LAN/WLAN mac address of my router?
[03:32] <Sarago> what's linux mint?
[03:32] <Sarago> distro?
[03:32] <bc> mintyfresh: wish I had a straighforward solution :(
[03:32] <thiebaude> Sarago: yes
[03:32] <randabis> !mint
[03:32] <wanna_learn_more> Borre-go:or should i use gcc ?
[03:33] <ludmilmm> hi. i have my my own recompiled version of libgphoto2. how do I instruct synaptic/apt-get to never try to update it? I tried "Force version", but still when I click mark for upgrade, it wants to upgrade it.
[03:33] <wanna_learn_more> Borre-go:its kinda confusing my friend :)
[03:33] <randabis> !mintsupport
[03:34] <ludmilmm> Also, I tried "Lock version" with same result
[03:34] <Borre-go> lets me see the onli want you need to do is turn off a wl card and activate the other one isnt?
[03:34] <bc> merther: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BSSID#Basic_service_set_identifier
[03:35] <wanna_learn_more> Borre-go:its already turned off.as u said i do blacklist ath-pci and ath5k at /etc/modprobe.conf and my i tried lsmod and my wireless isnt loaded yet
[03:35]  * Slade frowns
[03:35] <wanna_learn_more> Borre-go:i just wanna to load ar5212.ko that i get from mikrotik...
[03:35] <merther> I'll read that.  My computer refuses to connect to the router.
[03:36] <bc> merther: the answer would be 'yes'
[03:36] <skyl> ls
[03:37] <skyl> can anyone point me to a package manager howto for php and nginx?
[03:37] <skyl> in hardy "|
[03:37] <fcheslack> anyone know how gedit decides what file types to display in file browser pane? (not hidden files toggle)
[03:38] <merther> I keep trying to install ubuntu onto my laptop and no matter what I do it never installs a wireless interface.  It detects the correct hardware, installs, and activates the driver but there is never an interface that's created.
[03:38] <Eevee> I can copy to the clipboard with 'xclip -selection clipboard <<<foo' and paste in any gnome textbox with ctrl-v, but ctrl-shift-v in gnome-terminal doesn't work, and Paste is greyed out in edit and textbox context menus.  but parcellite shows the right clipboard.  can I get gtk to notice that the clipboard has contents?
[03:39] <fuxartige33> http://sunoano.name/ws/public_xhtml/debian_notes_cheat_sheets.html <-- nice site
[03:39] <merther> when I manually put all the information into the network connections area it then sees the wireless network but refuses to connect even with no authentication.
[03:39] <wanna_learn_more> borre-go:still there?
[03:39] <fuxartige33> it's Debian but well :)
[03:42] <fcheslack> ahh, found it, thank god thats been bugging me
[03:42] <Bromius2> FYI, the windows root directions work in virtualbox running on ubuntu 9.04
[03:42] <Bromius2> don't know if anyone else has tested or not, but I just did it
[03:43] <progre55> hi people! any skype video recorders under linux??
[03:43] <nellmathew> hey anyone know of an alternative to evolution & thunderbird (feature rich) ?.. if not i'm satisfied, just curious.
[03:45] <wrektjet> hey does anyone know how to get a controller applet for rhythmbox?
[03:46] <soulwarp> !backup
[03:46] <dublued> Hello
[03:47] <Deh> Algum brasileiro ai?? se tiver fala privado
[03:47] <dublued> Can someone point me to a write up on how to update to the latest kernel?
[03:47]  * Slade is getting frustrated with this gfx card
[03:48] <dublued> I'm currently running 2.6.28 and would like to update to 2.6.30 to fix the problems with the intel graphics
[03:48] <shiznebit> can anyone tell what NIC the Dell Ubuntu Inspiron 1330 uses ?
[03:48] <merther> wpa_supplicant is installed but doesn't seem to be enabled, how would I do that?
[03:48] <white_> you wouldnt
[03:49] <usser_> dublued, 2.6.30 was released two days ago, i doubt you'll find a deb package for it, the only way to install it is to compile it yourself which i'll advise against if you need a howto for that, you'll most likely mess it up
[03:50] <merther> then it's failing to authenticate me to the router
[03:50] <wrektjet> does anyone know how to get an applet for rhythmbox to control it from the panel?
[03:50] <Hilikus> what exactly is /var/log/messages?
[03:50] <usser_> dublued, http://www.howtoforge.com/kernel_compilation_ubuntu
[03:51] <TroN-0074> can somebody please tell me how to solve the error 18 when booting ubuntu in a  IBM thinkpad T41
[03:51] <Joker_-_> any suggestions on a good kid's xubuntu theme?
[03:51] <dublued> Thank you usser_
[03:51] <TroN-0074> ubuntu 8.04
[03:52] <Joker_-_> (I'm not bound to xfce, tho, the laptop has 1gb ram, 2ghz celeron)
[03:52] <Joker_-_> maybe some kind of easy icon management?
[03:53] <Joker_-_> I could hide the panel and the kid would be left with the given icons...
[03:53] <hoo-hah> hi guys. what's the best way to share the printer attached via usb to an ubuntu machine on a mixed network (windows & linuces) ?
[03:53] <rob_p> TroN-0074, Perhaps this will help:  http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/GRUB#Error_18  (assuming your error is a grub error)
[03:54] <Joker_-_> hoo-hah: cups + samba
[03:54] <TroN-0074> thanks I will give it a look
[03:54] <hoo-hah> Joker_-_: both wouldn't be installed by default, would they?
[03:54] <Joker_-_> hoo-hah: in fact, i belive both are
[03:55] <hoo-hah> Joker_-_: have you implemented this in the past?
[03:55] <Joker_-_> hoo-hah: mostly everytime I re-installed a system needing mixed shares
[03:55] <subzero2000> Is anyone able to reach us.ec2.archive.ubuntu.com or eu.ec2.archive.ubuntu.com?
[03:56] <mdg> Could someone help Laura4656545 with her Dynex wifi card?
[03:56] <usser_> Joker_-_, samba server is not installed by default
[03:56] <Joker_-_> hoo-hah: lots and lots of howto tutorials are available with walk-trough... try to google "ubuntu jaunty cups samba"
[03:56] <subzero2000> And does anyone know of a URL that would allow one to check the status of the various Ubuntu servers?
[03:56] <hoo-hah> I'm looking through a few, though there appears to be no easy gui-config option
[03:56] <hoo-hah> I'm fine with manually tinkering with samba shares, but I wouldn't mind the convenience
[03:57] <Muffinator> Hello all.  I have a quick question.  I'm transitioning this machine over to Ubuntu, and I copied my personal files over from the Windows partition.  Somehow it managed to bork up my permissions, giving everything "execute" permission.  I need to clear that without messing with the execute status of the directories.  How would I go about that?
[03:57] <mdg> Laura4656545: ?? are you here?
[03:57] <Joker_-_> hoo-hah: sometimes a gui is more trouble, imo. Cups has a web based setup, very straight forward and easy to follow
[03:57] <ogre_> im trying to uninstall a copy of vmware workstation 6.5 on jaunty. any suggestions on how to do since there is no uninstaller?
[03:57] <Laura4656545> I am, was getting card type. It's a Dynex Enhanced Wireless G Desktop CardDX-EBDTC - card is working but can't connect.
[03:58] <Joker_-_> hoo-hah: for samba, I'd suggest the web based interface aswell. it's called swat
[03:58] <hoo-hah> Muffinator just reminded me: During Ubuntu install, it appears that it detects and migrates user profiles from Windows. Where are these exactly stored, and how would I deploy them?
[03:58] <hoo-hah> Joker_-_: again, already installed with Ubuntu?
[03:58] <Joker_-_> hoo-hah: s.w.a.t = Samba web Administration Tool
[03:58] <Joker_-_> hoo-hah: installed alon with samba
[03:58]  * Xeon3D is off
[03:58] <Joker_-_> *along
[03:58] <mdg> Laura4656545 is using Xubuntu 8.04
[03:58] <hoo-hah> Haven't used swat in a while since I last used Slackware
[03:58] <usser_> ogre_, there was an uninstaller last i checked, try vmware-uninstall
[03:59] <Joker_-_> hoo-hah: you might be talking about swaret....
[03:59] <hoo-hah> nope. swat
[03:59] <Joker_-_> hoo-hah: swaret != swat
[03:59] <Joker_-_> humk
[03:59] <hoo-hah> yep. i know
[03:59] <mdg> Laura4656545 needs help troubleshooting her wifi connection in Xubuntu 8.04
[03:59] <dublued> Does anyone know how long it takes for the latest release of a kernel to come through the autmatic updates?
[03:59] <Joker_-_> well, not much changed.
[03:59] <Joker_-_> hoo-hah: it worked, and it still works
[04:00] <lstarnes> dublued: as in 2.6.30?
[04:00] <fireball> hey all, i've lost my desktop (only, still have the panel) since last upgrade, please advise. . .
[04:00] <usser_> dublued, once released no major kernel updates are pushed into the repos
[04:00] <dublued> yes
[04:00] <lstarnes> dublued: you usually won't get a major updaye like that
[04:00] <lstarnes> *update
[04:00] <Joker_-_> hoo-hah: A bit more tricky than cups but still very usable without much trouble
[04:00] <hoo-hah> Joker_-_: I don't doubt it. I've come to realise that Ubuntu provides easier alternatives to past solutions to problems
[04:00] <mdg> Laura4656545: you may have to edit the /etc/network/interfaces file
[04:00] <lstarnes> dublued: but patches are often released for the version of the linux kernel that you are using
[04:00] <mdg> I'm not good at that
[04:00] <Joker_-_> hoo-hah: just remember to set the "deactivated" flag to "no"... or something like that
[04:00] <hoo-hah> I guess I was looking for an Ubuntu-innovation, really
[04:00] <usser_> dublued, even ubuntu 9.10 uses 2.6.29 i believe, so you wont see 2.6.30 up until 10.04
[04:00] <dublued> oh ok, so that means that the new kernel will be part of 9.10?
[04:01] <lstarnes> dublued: probably
[04:01] <dublued> got it... thanks for all the info
[04:01] <ogre_> usser_:  no luck with that. any other ideas?
[04:01] <Joker_-_> hoo-hah: well, installation is simpler, most of the basic config is done... all you have to do is tailor it to your needs
[04:01] <usser_> ogre_, no luck as in it doesnt exist?
[04:02] <dublued> will there be a patch for the intel graphics 945 chipset or should i learn how to install the latest kernel
[04:02] <usser_> ogre_, try find / -name *vmware* see what shows up, there's gotta be an uninstaller
[04:02] <jeeves> can someone help me figure out how to fix this???   http://pastebin.ca/1456134
[04:02] <fireball> hey all, i've lost my desktop (only, still have the panel) since last upgrade, please advise. . .
[04:02] <mIgUeLaNgEl24> where could i see the driver's list installed on my ubuntu 9.04?
[04:02] <mdg> Laura4656545: I need to head out
[04:03] <RHorse> fireball: delete .gnome, .gnome2 and ?? directories in /home/user
[04:03] <mdg> Laura4656545: you many need to google /etc/network/interfaces setup
[04:03] <Joker_-_> hoo-hah: most of the time, you can find everything just by doing "apt-cache search something" then "apt-get install found-thing" and voila
[04:03] <jeeves> Flannel, are you in here right now?
[04:03] <RHorse> !fix-desktop
[04:03] <Flannel> jeeves: What's up?
[04:03] <jeeves> Flannel, http://pastebin.ca/1456134
[04:03] <arwan> hiuii
[04:04] <fireball> thanks, sussing it out now. . .
[04:04] <nick_> hello
[04:04] <Joker_-_> any idea how I could setup an easy UI for a young kid (bout 7 yo)
[04:04] <fireball> mmm, my file browser is not working?
[04:04] <gobbley> give it gnome
[04:04] <mIgUeLaNgEl24> Excuse me, where could i see the driver's list installed on my ubuntu 9.04?
[04:04] <gobbley> Joker_-_,
[04:04] <usser_> Joker_-_, try OLPC's sugar
[04:05] <histo> Joker_-_: install gcompris and leave him in that
[04:05] <fireball> nautilus down too!
[04:05] <Joker_-_> it's a girl and her parents are total computer retards :)
[04:05] <histo> usser_: Joker_-_ sugar sucks btw
[04:05] <Joker_-_> usser_: I installed ubuntu so far, with gcompris and all the likes
[04:05] <gobbley> is there a better option then flash?
[04:05] <Dr_Willis> i culdent figure out how to use sugar
[04:05] <Joker_-_> histo: I'd like her to have a couple of icons and all
[04:05] <dublued> mIgUeLaNgEl24:  type 'lspci' in your terminal
[04:05] <gobbley> anyone?
[04:06] <gobbley> !flash
[04:06] <jeeves> Flannel, any ideas on that one?
[04:06] <Joker_-_> I'm planning on hiding the panel
[04:06] <Joker_-_> and leaving her with a few icons
[04:06] <Joker_-_> for games
[04:06] <Joker_-_> and maybe firefox
[04:06] <gobbley> !Gnash
[04:06] <hemanth> is there a command to install the whole repository ?
[04:06] <gobbley> !mplayer
[04:06] <gobbley> !vlc
[04:07] <Joker_-_> gobbley: try the function > with your messages to ubottu: !vlc > gobbley
[04:07] <fireball> please, what the hell's wrong with my pc?
[04:07] <mIgUeLaNgEl24> dublued,  thanks
[04:07] <Unislash> hey guys, i'm having a problem installing/running moblock... anyone know of it?
[04:07] <eipark> hey
[04:07] <gobbley> fireball, prolly user error
[04:08] <gobbley> fireball, what was the problem?
[04:08] <Flannel> jeeves: Looks like a bug in that package.  Do you have -proposed enabled by any chance?
[04:08] <eipark> anyone know how to mount an external hd? my hd lights up but the disk isn't spinnign and sudo fdisk -l won't recognize it
[04:08] <fireball> no desktop, at all, no nautilus, since last upgrade
[04:08] <jeeves> Flannel, nope.  I tried an upgrade, and it started to do this
[04:08] <Joker_-_> eipark: if the disk isnt spinning, I'd say you have some kind of hardware error...
[04:08] <Joker_-_> eipark: unless it's flash? :)
[04:08] <eipark> its not hardware, it works on my pc
[04:08] <eipark> lol no its not flash
[04:08] <Unislash> eipark: try a different usb hub... for some reason my front ones don't give enough power or something and it works on the back
[04:09] <eipark> ok ill try that unislash
[04:09] <Joker_-_> eipark: is it the kind of external hd that comes only with one cable (powered trough USB)?
[04:09] <progre55> hi people! any skype video recorders under linux??
[04:09] <eipark> joker: yes it is
[04:09] <Joker_-_> eipark: try what Unislash said
[04:09] <Joker_-_> eipark: probably a 5volts problem
[04:09] <eipark> its a hub on a hub so this is very possible
[04:09] <edoceo> how do I see which files a package installed?
[04:09] <Joker_-_> eipark: you need more "juice"
[04:09] <hemanth> install all packages from Main, Restricted ,Universe ,Multiverse at once ?
[04:10] <Joker_-_> hub on a hub...
[04:10] <eipark> ahhh its spinning now
[04:10] <eipark> im running on a really old computer with only one usb drive working so i have to
[04:10] <jdsandeson> ﻿Anny one have an idea, I need to upgrade the firmware on my dvd burner, I have a bin file from liteon, Has instructions for windows, I dont have windows any more.
[04:10] <eipark> woo that worked
[04:10] <eipark> thanks guys
[04:10] <Unislash> yup :)
[04:10] <Joker_-_> eipark: it probably need ssomething like >500mA so... hub->hub->hd < 500mA for sure
[04:10] <eipark> yeah
[04:10] <eipark> definitely
[04:10] <eipark> thanks agian
[04:11] <fireball> please. . .
[04:11] <fireball> . . .help
[04:11] <ged^^> hi guys
[04:11] <ged^^> how may i know the version of my ubuntu?
[04:12] <soulwarp> Do i have to use a virus scanner program? Someone suggested one to me but I forgot.
[04:12] <fccf-sb> ged^^, goto system > about ubuntu
[04:12] <Joker_-_> I had a hub that was powered... it sent power to my usb controller. Controller didnt liked it: computer was crashing. Searched for about a week to find out that the problem came from that little 15$ unit...
[04:12] <rob_p> ged^^, Do, "lsb_release -a" at the command prompt.
[04:12] <soulwarp> I can't seem to find the defrag program either
[04:13] <fccf-sb> soulwarp, there is no need for defrag, viruses are very few and far between on linux
[04:13] <Joker_-_> soulwarp: defrag and virus are virtually useless on linux
[04:13] <soulwarp> Oh cool! less work for me
[04:13] <ged^^> nice!! thanks rob_p and fccf-sg
[04:13] <fccf-sb> soulwarp, thats the idea
[04:13] <Joker_-_> erm, virus are always useless... anyway...
[04:13] <rob_p> ged^^, welcome
[04:14] <ged^^> anyone have tried setting up a "xen server" in hardy?
[04:14] <Joker_-_> so, about that icon applet... any suggestions?<
[04:14] <progre55> bye all
[04:14] <fccf-sb> ged^^, I gave up on that and used vbox
[04:15] <rob_p> ged^^, As in the hypervisor?  Been meaning to check it out but I use vmware server and have had good luck with it.
[04:16] <Joker_-_> kid using computers. parents totally unfit for computer support. Installing xubuntu. need simple ui -> icon applet? Inputs please?
[04:16] <L3dPlatedLinux> ok has anyone used httpripper in ubuntu
[04:17] <rob_p> Joker_-_, Kids are smarter than you think!  Just give 'em Ubuntu... they'll figure it out!  :-)
[04:17] <soulwarp> Icon applet?
[04:17] <computer13137> Joker, Ubuntu Netbook Edition is very simple... are you looking for a low-resource desktop or an easy-to-use desktop? lol
[04:17] <Joker_-_> rob_p: she's 6-7 yo...
[04:17] <Artemis3> JoaoJoao_, edubuntu?
[04:17] <Artemis3> Joker_-_
[04:17] <fccf-sb> Joker_-_, have you tried Sugar - the OS they put on the $100 laptop - they have a VM for it - really cool
[04:17] <Joker_-_> computer13137: kind of, but it can handle full xubuntu easyly. It had vista on it :)
[04:17] <gobbley> any good solution for watching hulu without the nonfree?
[04:17] <rob_p> Joker_-_, That's fine.  My 5yo does just fine with standard Ubuntu Desktop.
[04:18] <soulwarp> I enjoy the windows vista
[04:18] <Joker_-_> Artemis3 rob_p fccf-sb: my choice of distro is pretty much made. I'd be more looking into a UI
[04:18] <computer13137> I have a question about one of my Ubuntu boxes.  I've had random problems with it.  This is probably more hardware - but I'm not sure why this is happening.  I have a system with two 500GB SATA hard drives.  /home and /root are both on the same hard drive (but I believe I put them on separate partitions).
[04:18] <dispatch> Anyone have any experience duel booting ubuntu and windows XP
[04:18] <gobbley> soulwarp, then you are retarded
[04:18] <Joker_-_> or an arrangement of icons... some applet, simple to use
[04:19] <Artemis3> Joker_-_, edubuntu is ubuntu with a couple of ui changes and packages
[04:19] <fccf-sb> Joker_-_, I am talking about using a Virtual Machine on top of ubuntu - for the kid
[04:19] <caffeinated> dispatch, what's the problem? :)
[04:19] <soulwarp> gobbley: and you are mean
[04:19] <computer13137> I uploaded a 500MB file through SFTP without a problem to /home/.  When I ran the "mv" command to send it to /root, the system COMPLETELY locked up.  Console, SSH, network, even the CAPS LOCK LIGHT stopped responding.  I've had tons of problems with random lockups on this machine.  Running FSCK on the hard drive shows that one is completely fine, the other, each partition says "recovering journal" but claims to have no bad sectors.  Running fsck on bot
[04:20] <Joker_-_> fccf-sb: yeah I read about that this afternoon... tey ship a .vdi... dunno. I don't think it's a good idea since there wont be anyone around to support the kid/laptop
[04:20] <Joker_-_> fccf-sb: I want something very very straight forward and rock solid
[04:20] <fireball> hey all, deleted .gnome and .gnome2, no difference. pc still broke, please help
[04:21] <Muffinator> Hello all!  How would I change the executable persons of all the files in a directory recursively unless it *is* a directory?
[04:21] <Joker_-_> fccf-sb: I tought of xfce/ubuntu. now looking for some Icon manager
[04:21] <fireball> nautilus still dead, dolphin ok
[04:21] <Joker_-_> fccf-sb: something simple. I might just end up using a panel
[04:21] <fireball> no desktop!!!
[04:21] <kellyh> computer13137: have you tried running memtest86 to test for bad memory? and try running the drive manufacturers drive tests if you can
[04:21] <Joker_-_> fccf-sb: A panel with a few icons on it.
[04:21] <dsmith_> soulwarp: Why do you like Vista so much? What does it have that ubuntu DOES not?
[04:21] <eipark> hey does anyone know how to get permissions so i can copy files from a hard disk to an external?
[04:21] <eipark> dsmith: aero
[04:21] <computer13137> kellyh: I left it run for 3 hours while I was out this afternoon.  It ran like 5 passes and found no errors.  Also my drives are Samsung SpinPoint T, I don't know of any manufacturer utilities, but I can look on their website.
[04:22] <soulwarp> dsmith_: I like Ubuntu very much
[04:22] <Artemis3> Joker_-_, xfce ubuntu you mean xubuntu?
[04:22] <fireball> PLEASE HELP< MAJOR ERRORS SINCE LAST UPGRADE!
[04:22] <Joker_-_> eipark: you should try compiz then. For your rights, you might be looking into su/sudo
[04:22] <Joker_-_> Artemis3: yup
[04:22] <Artemis3> Joker_-_, xfce has its own panels
[04:22] <Joker_-_> Artemis3: yup
[04:22] <eipark> joker: what does that mean im totally new to ubuntu
[04:22] <eipark> joker: my frienda lso said something about su/sudo
[04:22] <Hilikus> is it possible to do syslog.conf rules based on program and not facility?
[04:23] <Joker_-_> eipark: sudo = "super user do"
[04:23] <dsmith_> eipark: Aero?
[04:23] <ged^^> rob_p: you've tried that on ubuntu 8.04?? or in other version of ubuntu?
[04:23] <kellyh> computer13137: samsung have their own drive tools iirc
[04:23] <soulwarp> dsmith_: I was joking about vista since it's not very good
[04:23] <dsmith_> compiz-fusion has all that sort of eye-candy
[04:23] <dsmith_> oh ok
[04:23] <fccf-sb> Joker_-_, As I have developed some os stuff for education.. I'd say for that age group - the kid should be using a full fleged os... perhaps you should look @themes .. they have some nice themes E17 would be another option - simple clean and intelligently designed
[04:23] <ged^^> rob_p: oh sorry xsend
[04:23] <Joker_-_> eipark: so you do the command as a super user: God, in a linux/geek/system rights view
[04:23] <eipark> ah so how do i do that?
[04:23] <kellyh> computer13137: failing that you could try replacing IDE/SATA/SCSI cables (whichever applies) just to rule that out perhaps and running smart extended tests on the drives
[04:23] <eipark> command line?
[04:24] <ged^^> fccf-sb: you've tried that on ubuntu 8.04?? or on other version of ubuntu?
[04:24] <Joker_-_> fccf-sb: last time I tryed Enlightenment, it wasnt very stable
[04:24] <kellyh> computer13137: sometimes with memtest you have to leave it running a good long time (sometimes 12+ hours)
[04:24] <Joker_-_> fccf-sb: it's been about a year tho
[04:24] <rob_p> ged^^, I run vmware server in Ubuntu 8.04LTS with 4 virtual machines on it.  Works pretty slick.
[04:24] <computer13137> kellyh: I thought about running SMART tests.  Any idea where I can find those in my BIOS?
[04:24] <fireball> no desktop since upgrade, no nautilus either, please help!
[04:24] <dublued> eipark:  Start Terminal, access it by click on Applications > Accessories
[04:24] <Joker_-_> eipark: yeah, command line is your friend
[04:24] <kellyh> computer13137: they won't be in the BIOS, you need the smartmontools package, then use smartctl from the command line
[04:24] <Joker_-_> eipark: you gotta learn to love the command line
[04:25] <soulwarp> I saw this great plugin for firefox that gives children an education and social experience with parental controls
[04:25] <fccf-sb> ged^^, I am actually running 8.04 on my desktop, yet I am not running any VMs on it, but vbox works in 8.04
[04:25] <eipark> yeah thats what i hear, im at mit and i feel like such a noob
[04:25] <computer13137> kellyh: Ah, OK thanks. :)  I'll install that on my USB flash drive.
[04:25] <rhentin> Hello, I'd like to know how to compile a patch for Wine that would let me play Fallout 3 and other windows games on linux, i feel like a total moron asking this, since i'm in completely unknown territory. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.
[04:25] <ethiotech> I am having problem with my /etc/resolve.conf... it doesn't update automatically when I am connected to a VPN.. anyone know why?
[04:25] <Joker_-_> eipark: in linux, the command line is much more powerfull that what windows's command line
[04:25] <Joker_-_> eipark: much more user friendly too...
[04:25] <ged^^> rob_p: do you have links about vmware?
[04:25] <eipark> do i just type sudo
[04:25] <eipark> then try it again?
[04:25] <tj__> rhentin, cedega.... its non-free unfortunately
[04:25] <computer13137> kellyh: Uh, development.  My USB flash drive Linux is over there locked up. :|
[04:25] <Tarrok> Bug!!! When i select a new panel at left side, with automatic hide, no expanded and a window list inserted on that, bugs ocurr!!! :DDD Jauntier!!!
[04:25] <kellyh> computer13137: might not be the cause, but its worth for peace of mind i find to try these things systematically sometimes.
[04:25] <Joker_-_> eipark: sudo Command
[04:25] <fccf-sb> !vmware | ged^^
[04:25] <rameshwo> what is meant by CLI powerful ? it can perform more works than GUI ?????
[04:26] <cabrey> !bug | Tarrok
[04:26] <computer13137> kellyh: think it might be the ram?  Should I leave memtest run while I'm at work tomorrow?
[04:26] <Joker_-_> eipark: example: sudo echo "Hello world!"
[04:26] <akio> someone could help me with the sound of the system?
[04:26] <eipark> right
[04:26] <fccf-sb> rameshwo, but you can do more damage from the CLI
[04:26] <eipark> so the command for copying files?
[04:26] <Joker_-_> eipark: cp
[04:26] <Tarrok> cabrey, ok
[04:26] <ged^^> obttu: thanks
[04:26] <eipark> does it matter that its from a hard drive to an external hard drive
[04:26] <kellyh> computer13137: won't hurt perhaps? a lot of these sort of problems are usually down to ram or dodgy motherboard perhaps, but ram is easier to test
[04:26] <Joker_-_> eipark: for help, try cp --help
[04:26] <computer13137> kellyh: I don't think a bad hard drive would lock up Flash drive Linux that's not even using it... would it?  lol
[04:26] <rob_p> ged^^, http://lmgtfy.com/?q=vmware
[04:26] <eipark> thanks
[04:27] <mannytu> http://www.virtualbox.org/
[04:27] <Joker_-_> eipark: doesnt matter as long as both are mounted and that you know what you are doing :)
[04:27] <kellyh> computer13137: shouldn't do, anything in logs?
[04:27] <ged^^> ubottu: thanks
[04:27] <fccf-sb> ged^^, ubottu is a robot ... I gave it the command to give you the link for vmware
[04:27] <ged^^> aw
[04:27] <computer13137> kellyh: Good idea, I'll check that after a quick reboot.
[04:27] <Tarrok> ubottu, i ll kill yuuu!!!  :P
[04:27] <computer13137> kellyh: Can I /msg you so we don't get buried in the mess?
[04:27] <akio> someone could help me with the sound of the system?
[04:27] <Joker_-_> eipark: your command should looks something like: "sudo cp -R /path/from /path/to
[04:27] <kellyh> computer13137: normally i'd say sure, but i'm just about to head to bed (its 4:30am here)
[04:27] <computer13137> kellyh: Ah, OK, no problem. lol
[04:28] <dublued> eipark:  I'm not sure if this is the proper way to transfer files or not, but what I usually do is start Terminal, and type in 'sudo nautilus' ... this wil open the file explorer with root permission and allow you to move around and modify any file(s) you want.  be very careful because you don't want to end up disrupting system files
[04:28] <rob_p> ged^^, Little humor there...  :-)
[04:28] <computer13137> kellyh: Only 10:30PM here. :P  I'll have a look in the system logs on the box that locked up - however the system logs on my flash drive are stored on a ramdrive to save the flash's lifespan. :P
[04:28] <ewsubach> i want to change the sudoers lecture message, but lecture_file=/filepath doesn't seem to be working. anyone know how?
[04:28] <fccf-sb> !msgthebot| For Future Reference
[04:28] <soulwarp> rhentin: Fallout 3 seems to work okay with the development version of wine http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=14322
[04:28] <soulwarp> rhentin: I suggest grabbing the latest binary from the webpage
[04:28] <eipark> joker: i actually already tried that but i get this error : Files in the folder "2002-2003" cannot be handled because you do not have permissions to see them.
[04:28] <Joker_-_> eipark: dublued just gave you a windows-like way to do what you want
[04:28] <computer13137> kellyh: brb, walking over to the box. lol
[04:28] <Tarrok> « ubuntu-bug <package> »
[04:28] <rhentin> Ahh thank you:)
[04:28] <Tarrok> uahuahuah
[04:28] <yva> hi do smb has an idea of a program to open .fig files?
[04:28] <Tarrok> fake down!!!1
[04:29] <Joker_-_> eipark: thats because you didnt typed "sudo" before the command :)
[04:29] <eipark> heheheh.
[04:29] <eipark> thanks
[04:29] <rameshwo> i get please register with service in MIRC   what to do ????
[04:29] <eipark> wait
[04:29] <Joker_-_> eipark: the files are probably owned by root or something
[04:29] <eipark> no
[04:29] <eipark> i did
[04:29] <FloodBot2> eipark: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:29] <Joker_-_> eipark: then nautilus shouldnt be of any help
[04:29] <dispatch> can anyone walk me through the steps of installing ubuntu and windows xp on the same system
[04:29] <eipark> ah
[04:29] <Joker_-_> eipark: try it anyway
[04:29] <eipark> joker: so i should just do what you said before
[04:29] <eipark> joker: sudo nautilus gives me that error still
[04:29] <Joker_-_> eipark: I suspect a PEBKAC
[04:30] <soulwarp> rhentin: everyone suggests do not patch your game
[04:30] <tj__> dispatch, easy install windows first, creating a partition and leaving space for ubuntu, install ubuntu
[04:30] <rameshwo>  i get please register with service in MIRC   what to do ????i wanted to join  other channel also..please help
[04:30] <fccf-sb> rameshwo: type /msg nickserv register yourpassword youremailaddress
[04:30] <Joker_-_> eipark: do you know pastebin?
[04:30] <eipark> joker: no id not
[04:30] <dispatch> that is where i'm at now.  but can't figure out the partition program that came with ubuntu..  I'm very very very new to linux
[04:30] <fccf-sb> rameshwo, also /join #channel
[04:30] <mannytu> http://www.virtualbox.org/ --->Wubi is an officially supported Ubuntu installer for Windows
[04:31] <rameshwo> dispatch : i can help you. i've done it..
[04:31] <yva> nobody to open .fig files?
[04:31] <Joker_-_> eipark: ermm... can you do that: "sudo apt-get install pastebinit"
[04:31] <Joker_-_> eipark: tell me then it's sucessfully done
[04:31] <tj__> dispatch, gparted , only use it now to remove all partitions then use the window installer to create its own partition
[04:31] <mannytu> http://wubi-installer.org/ this is the address
[04:31] <eipark> joker: ok it says E: Couldn't find pacakge pastebinit
[04:32] <tj__> dispatch, you will want to use gparted on the live cd as you cannot delete the partition while running the main installed system
[04:32] <Joker_-_> eipark: damn. Must be in universe repository or something like that
[04:32] <dispatch> I used the XP dist to delete all partitions.. then created a partition half the size of the hdd and installed windows XP into it.   now I'm running the Ubuntu 9.4 dist and have the screen up showing all of the partitions
[04:32] <rainwalker> installing ubuntu on my laptop's second hard drive, messed something up, and now I get error 21 with grub when I try to boot. I'm able to boot into windows using the super grub disc, and the vista install disc finds nothing to repair. what should I do?
[04:32] <fireball> oh c'mon, this has gotta be easy, and probably important. WHERE IS MY DESKTOP< WHAT IS WRONG WITH NAUTILUS? PLEASE. . .
[04:32] <Joker_-_> How do you install pastebinit simply and easyly on a fresh install (no multiverse or whatsover)
[04:33] <rob_p> fireball, Any clues in the system logfiles?
[04:33] <EvRide> sup dudez?
[04:33] <tj__> dispatch, so whats the problem? if you removed all partitions and then installed windows on one half and ubuntu on the other... what is wrong?
[04:33] <Joker_-_> eipark: humk lets do it the hard way trhen :)
[04:34] <Joker_-_> I wanna check if the drives are correctly mounted
[04:34] <eipark> sure
[04:34] <EvRide> i got a problem with monodevelop, it won't start, anyone want to look through the errors im getting and diagnose the problem for me?
[04:34] <fireball> please advise, where would be a good place to look? (which log)
[04:34] <soulwarp> Joker_-_: I think webboard is similar to pastebinit
[04:34] <Joker_-_> can you type: "sudo mount"
[04:34] <eipark> ooookay. done
[04:34] <rob_p> fireball, Usually in /var/log for system logs.
[04:34] <fireball> nautilus[5692]: segfault at 20 ip 00007fdd98ba849e sp 00007fffbafea190 error 4 in libnautilus-actions.so[7fdd98ba3000+10000]
[04:34] <rameshwo> dispath:  you must know which is ur c drive and which d .  the one which is filled is c :
[04:34] <Joker_-_> eipark: whats the path from where you are trying to read?
[04:35] <dublued> has anyone fixed the drivers issue with intel graphics in 9.04?
[04:35] <fireball> would this be the error? It's repeated often enough
[04:35] <Joker_-_> eipark: the path of the files youre not allowed to copy from...
[04:35] <Dr_Belka> kinda there are workarounds for the intel stuff
[04:35] <soulwarp> dublued: I had to enable a repository to get mine to work
[04:35] <dublued> soulwrap:  which one?
[04:35] <Dr_Belka> how can you tell if you are having problems?
[04:35] <Guest27914> Hi, I have a HP g60 laptop, it has an nvidia geforce 8200. The geforce has a max resolution of like 2500 something. But the highest resolution i can select is 1366x768. Is there anyway i can force a larger resolution?
[04:36] <eipark> /dev/sdb1 on /media/disk type ext3 (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=hal)
[04:36] <eipark> is taht what youre looking for?
[04:36] <rameshwo> dispatch : just delete d:  and  make one partition as swap ( about double ur RAM ) and remaining   as ext3  mount point "  /  "
[04:36] <Joker_-_> eipark: ok thats where you want to copy from?
[04:36] <dublued> Dr_Belka:  compiz and extra display settings dont' work
[04:36] <eipark> yes
[04:36] <eipark> everything on that entire directory
[04:36] <soulwarp> dublued: open software sources, Updates--> Prerelease Updates
[04:36] <Joker_-_> eipark: so you wanna take files from the external disk and put em on your drive
[04:36] <fireball> rob_p> nautilus[5692]: segfault at 20 ip 00007fdd98ba849e sp 00007fffbafea190 error 4 in libnautilus-actions.so[7fdd98ba3000+10000]
[04:36] <Dr_Belka> thanks dublued
[04:36] <fireball> ???
[04:37] <soulwarp> dublued: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:37] <eipark> the opposite
[04:37] <rob_p> fireball, That shouldn't keep the desktop from loading.
[04:37] <eipark> hard drive to external
[04:37] <fireball> i have no idea, but it is so :(
[04:37] <fireball> any other ideas please?
[04:37] <soulwarp> dublued: it should find a new linux-header and install
[04:37] <soulwarp> dublued: after that reboot
[04:38] <Joker_-_> eipark: strange. type ls -la /media/disk
[04:38] <Hilikus> does syslog contain everything that daemon.log contains??
[04:38] <rob_p> fireball, What happens if you type, "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start" at the command line?
[04:38] <dublued> soulwrap:  thanks!  you just saved me from compiling the kernel from scratch!
[04:38] <hoo-hah> what's the most supported wireless chipset for ubuntu use? I've having shitty times with ralink pci cards
[04:38] <eipark> when i go to file browser
[04:38] <Joker_-_> eipark: tell me what user is listed as the owner of the files and what is the status... or simply copy 1 line from the output containin a file
[04:38] <eipark> it says location: /media/disk
[04:38] <hoo-hah> ah nvm, found the wiki
[04:39] <fireball> rob_p> it says " * Starting GNOME Display Manager...                                     [ OK ]
[04:39] <soulwarp> dublued: I found it out by accident. all the tutorials i read borked my x windows
[04:39] <eipark> can i just go to properties
[04:39] <rob_p> fireball, Does it load up to a a desktop environment?
[04:39] <jeeves> how do I upgrade from gusty server?
[04:39] <eipark> and change the owner to my user account?
[04:39] <Joker_-_> eipark: have you done that: ls -la /media/disk/
[04:39] <fireball> i have a gui environment, ie, a panel. Just no desktop, or options if i right click there
[04:39] <Joker_-_> eipark: it'll tell you what I wanna know
[04:40] <dublued> soulwarp:  lol, yea that's the reason i didn't want to try those workarounds
[04:40] <eipark> joker:/dev/sdb1 on /media/disk type ext3 (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=hal)
[04:40] <Joker_-_> eipark: first, lets see whats going on with theses files
[04:40] <eipark> whoops
[04:40] <fireball> rob_p> i have a gui environment, ie, a panel. Just no desktop, or options if i right click there
[04:40] <eipark> joker: ls: invalid option -- '/'
[04:40] <rob_p> fireball, I see.  For some reason I thought you were stuck at a command prompt.
[04:40] <Joker_-_> ls -la /media/disk
[04:40] <fireball> probably my poor comunication, soz
[04:40] <eipark> same error
[04:40] <Joker_-_> eipark: copy/paste my command, you probably did a typo
[04:41] <eipark> ok
[04:41] <fireball> still, where did nautilus go, along with the desktop (black dead area)?
[04:41] <eipark> joker: what do you want from taht
[04:41] <Joker_-_> on line with a file
[04:41] <fireball> rob-p> still, where did nautilus go, along with the desktop (black dead area)?
[04:41] <rob_p> fireball, What was the last thing you did before it stopped working?
[04:41] <Joker_-_> *one
[04:41] <Joker_-_> I wanna see a full line output containing a file from that directory to see who owns it
[04:42] <Joker_-_> and what are the rights
[04:42] <fireball> no idea, ussually am running rhythmbox constatnly, finish the day with a game of warzone2100
[04:42] <eipark> joker: drwxrwxr--  2     1001     1001       4096 2008-05-17 08:00 Election results
[04:42] <max> Hi, I have a HP g60 laptop, it has an nvidia geforce 8200. The geforce has a max resolution of like 2500 something. But the highest resolution i can select is 1366x768. Is there anyway i can force a larger resolution?
[04:43] <fireball> maybe the nautilus script? I think I added "tagtool" and "mmc" to the nautilus menu last. They were checked and working after a reboot just fine
[04:43] <Joker_-_> eipark: should be readable by anyone
[04:43] <Joker_-_> could you paste the command you did (sudo cp -R /....)
[04:43] <rob_p> fireball, Yeah you may want to follow up on the Nautilus errors you mentioned.  Try removing the addons.
[04:43] <eipark> joker: i haven't run that code yet
[04:44] <Joker_-_> eipark: havent you said it gave you an error?
[04:44] <eipark> thats when i just try to drag the files over
[04:44] <Joker_-_> isnt it what we're talking about for like... 20 minutes?<
[04:45] <eipark> oh sorry i wasn't clear, i havent tried copying files form the cmd line yet, just by dragging and dropping
[04:45] <Joker_-_> humk. in one line, can you tell me the source path and the destination path?
[04:45] <mIgUeLaNgEl24> Hi, i have ubuntu 9.04 reciently installed on my laptop computer and i would like to know if my graphic card is installed to run compiz fusion, anyone know what i need to do for it?
[04:46] <eipark> source: /media/disk, destination: /media/Ernie's Passport
[04:46] <eipark> joker: is that enough or si that incomplete
[04:46] <rob_p> fireball, You can always add the Nautilus scripts back after you fix the problem.
[04:46] <Joker_-_> eipark: hermm... could it be possible to use a directory of destination that doesnt have spaces or '
[04:47] <Joker_-_> eipark: something simple as: "/media/destination"
[04:47] <Joker_-_> :)
[04:47] <eipark> umm i guess i can hook it to my windows machine and change the title really quick
[04:47] <Joker_-_> eipark: windows?
[04:47] <Joker_-_> eipark: this directory is the destination so it should be empty?
[04:48] <eipark> Ernie's Passport is the name of my external hard drive
[04:48] <dublued> soulwarp:  you are awesome!... just installed and restarted
[04:48] <Joker_-_> eipark: ok lets work around that funky name then
[04:48] <dublued> i like ubuntu again!
[04:48] <mIgUeLaNgEl24> Excuse me, i have ubuntu 9.04 reciently installed on my laptop computer and i would like to know if my graphic card is installed to run compiz fusion, anyone know what i need to do for it?
[04:48] <eipark> i just changed it
[04:49] <dublued> mIgUeLaNgEl24:  what kind of laptop?
[04:49] <Joker_-_> eipark: cool, has it been recongnized agai, and mounted in a more "computer friendly" name?
[04:49] <eipark> joker: ok destination is now /media/erniepassport
[04:49] <Joker_-_> cool
[04:49] <mIgUeLaNgEl24> dublued,  it's a toshiba
[04:50] <Joker_-_> sudo cp -R /media/disk /media/erniepassport
[04:50] <dublued> mIgUeLaNgEl24:  model number?  you can go on toshiba website and find out which graphics card your model has
[04:50] <Joker_-_> btw
[04:51] <Joker_-_> wait
[04:51] <dublued> mIgUeLaNgEl24:  of course the easiest way to find out if compiz works or not is by installing the Compiz Settings Manager and see if it enables any of the effects
[04:51] <Joker_-_> You said you want the files FROM the passport TO the hard drive...
[04:51] <eipark> no, the other way around
[04:51] <fireball> i'm back, no luck
[04:51] <eipark> i already ran hte command
[04:51] <fireball> thanks anyway
[04:51] <eipark> its blinking now...  like somethings happening
[04:51] <Joker_-_> eipark: ok cool :)
[04:51] <rob_p> fireball, Did you remove the addon scripts?
[04:51] <fireball> running nautilus from terminal yeilds this: "Segmentation fault"
[04:52] <Joker_-_> eipark: something IS happening, it's copying the files
[04:52] <fireball> yes
[04:52] <eipark> ok from hard drive to passport
[04:52] <Joker_-_> eipark: yup
[04:52] <eipark> joker: awesome, thanks a lot. can you recommend a place to learn more about command line and gettnig better at using ubuntu in general
[04:52] <lstarnes> fireball: try nautilus --no-desktop
[04:53] <fireball> same error
[04:53] <Joker_-_> eipark: honestly, not realy.
[04:53] <fireball> what's a segmentation fault?
[04:53] <jon5001> question:  if i upgrade one leve, say from 8.04 to 8.10, will i need to re-install / re-set-up all my programs, settings, etc?  i use 8.04, an i want the least painful route to 9.10
[04:53] <Joker_-_> eipark: I guess you can dig around google and find some place.
[04:54] <eipark> joker: hah thats cool, thanks, yeah i figured.
[04:54] <lstarnes> fireball: it's caused by a program trying to access a section of memory that isn't allocated to it
[04:54] <rob_p> fireball, That's nautilus crashing.
[04:54] <kazagistar> fireball: in my limited programing experience, it is something where a program tries to access memory it is not allowed to access, and it is a bug in the program
[04:55] <dublued> jon5001:  when i upgraded from 8.04 to 8.10... it kept everything intact for me... the only problem i ran into was that vmware didn't work right away, which was easily fixed
[04:55] <fireball> ok, so what do i do about it? and is it related to my lack of desktop?
[04:55] <lstarnes> fireball: it probably
[04:55] <lstarnes> is
[04:56] <dublued> jon5001:  i upgraded using the updates manager, not the cd
[04:57] <fireball> it seems to crash on "initilizing gksu extension", i'll try deleteing it again. . .
[04:57] <max_789>  Hi, I have a HP g60 laptop (running kubuntu 9.04), it has an nvidia geforce 8200. The geforce has a max resolution of like 2500 something. But the highest resolution i can select is 1366x768. Is there anyway i can force a larger resolution?
[04:57] <lstarnes> fireball: try removing that extension
[04:58] <linux_trojan> does Ubuntu have a feature that works like PartitionMagic where you can install Ubuntu on a full disk with Windows already there?
[04:58] <cabrey> linux_trojan, wubi?
[04:59] <lstarnes> linux_trojan: you would need to have a separate partition
[04:59] <linux_trojan> ohhhhh
[04:59] <lstarnes> linux_trojan: or run ubuntu in wubi, which still require windows
[04:59] <cabrey> linux_trojan, wubi enables you to install ubuntu like a windows program so you can try it out beyond the live cd
[04:59] <cabrey> !wubi
[04:59] <lstarnes> *requires
[04:59] <linux_trojan> I thought the new one could work like partitoin magic
[05:00] <cabrey> linux_trojan, yes ubuntu can partition your disk without erasing data
[05:00] <jon5001> dublued, thanks.  so all programs, printers, etc tayed intact then?
[05:00] <dublued> jon5001:  yeap everything worked just fine with all the new improvements
[05:00] <Alien_FX_Fiend> so how does the app run,in a virtual environment?
[05:01] <ryoushi19> I'm having severe problems with logging in to 9.04 64 bit.
[05:01] <Alien_FX_Fiend> how would linux run inside the windows kernel?what about the bootstrap loader?
[05:01] <linux_trojan> so if I have WIndows on a full disk, Ubuntu can push Windows over and make a partitions for / and /home ?
[05:01] <fireball> ok, even the desktop came back without prompting.
[05:01] <lstarnes> linux_trojan: yes
[05:01] <dublued> linux_trojan:  you can use the ubuntu install disc on a hard drive that only has one partition (with windows installed).  The ubuntu installer will partition the drive for you and install ubuntu on a new partition for you
[05:01] <ryoushi19> Whenever I log in, it tells me there's something already running on the x server, and asks me to try then ext.
[05:01] <fireball> Any ideas as to what was causing the conflict?
[05:01] <ryoushi19> if I hit yes, it just says the same thing
[05:01] <ryoushi19> if I hit no, it goes back to login.
[05:02] <linux_trojan> I installed Wubi, BUT, it appears that I have to reboot windows to access it?
[05:02] <lstarnes> linux_trojan: yes
[05:02] <jon5001> dublued, thanks!  zactly what i needed 2 know
[05:02] <ryoushi19> essentially, I've got an error so bad, my system is essentially bricked.  anyone got any advice?
[05:02] <cabrey> linux_trojan, remember that it wont be as fast as a native install
[05:02] <linux_trojan> sort of like LILO and only run either windows or ubuntu at one time, its  not a Virtual Machine
[05:02] <cabrey> linux_trojan, yes it uses the windows file system
[05:03] <kazagistar> Alien_FX_Fiend: wubi does not run inside windows, it just alters something in the windows boot proccess to add the option of booting itself instead from the same partition
[05:03] <lstarnes> linux_trojan: it's still somewhat within windows since ubuntu in wubi sees partitions as a file on the windows system's file system
[05:03] <Alien_FX_Fiend> oh i see well thanks for the info
[05:04] <linux_trojan> Windows is too full of holes, FBI is harrassing me with internet attacks, bombarding me with packets, so I gotta get more bullet proof
[05:04] <mIgUeLaNgEl24> dublued,  VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RS690M [Radeon X1200 Series thats the model
[05:04] <lstarnes> linux_trojan: I don't think the fbi would be dong that
[05:04] <cabrey> haha
[05:04] <Alien_FX_Fiend> has anyone heard of tor.hu?can i use it to bypass a yahoo ipbanned account?
[05:04] <linux_trojan> my father was in the FBI, you dont know these guys
[05:04] <lstarnes> linux_trojan: it's more likely some kid trying to scare you
[05:04] <soulwarp> linux_trojan: try unpluging your ethernet cord
[05:04] <ryoushi19> I have an error that tells me the X server is already running on display :0.  If I say yes, it tells me it's already running on display :1, and so on.  If I say no, it goes back to logon.
[05:05] <ryoushi19> also, linux_trojan, that honestly sounds a little paranoid.
[05:05] <linux_trojan> they are all Freemasons, J Edgar Hoover was like 33 degree freemason
[05:05] <linux_trojan> and homosexual
[05:05] <linux_trojan> ooops shit this room is probably 90 percent that
[05:05] <linux_trojan> well g2g
[05:05] <linux_trojan> bye
[05:06] <Alien_FX_Fiend> i can't log into yahoo messenger,or pidgin for that matter i get a network reconnected error
[05:06] <cabrey> well that was... odd
[05:06] <Alien_FX_Fiend> i tried many different clients still no luck i can only connect through yahoo webmessenger
[05:06] <lstarnes> ignore it, it was likely a troll
[05:06] <ryoushi19> well, now that the conspiracy theory paranoia is out of the room, anyone got any solutions to my problem?
[05:06] <cabrey> ryoushi19, what was it again? haha
[05:06] <lstarnes> ryoushi19: try running sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorf
[05:07] <ryoushi19> oh, tried that
[05:07] <lstarnes> ryoushi19: er, -xorg, not -xorf
[05:07] <cabrey> nvm i see it
[05:07] <ryoushi19> yeah, tried the xserver-xorg thing
[05:07] <lstarnes> ryoushi19: what video card are you using?
[05:07] <ryoushi19> that was the first thing I tried.  didn't do anything.
[05:07] <Alien_FX_Fiend> i can't find a client that'll connect to yahoo
[05:07] <ryoushi19> Nvidia 9500 PCIe
[05:07] <soulwarp> xorf the next generation of xorg
[05:07] <lstarnes> ryoushi19: do you have the proper drivers loaded?
[05:07] <ryoushi19> yeah
[05:07] <ryoushi19> it had been working for ages
[05:08] <ryoushi19> it was since the last update that it went wrong.
[05:08] <fireball> i din't know how the conflict occured, but thanks for the help guys
[05:08] <lstarnes> ryoushi19: which version of ubuntu?
[05:08] <ryoushi19> 9.04 64 bit edition
[05:08] <lstarnes> ryoushi19: check dmesg
[05:08] <ryoushi19> problem with that
[05:08] <dublued> mIgUeLaNgEl24:  try installing compiz desktop manager and enable some effects to see if it works
[05:08] <ryoushi19> I can't log in to TTY sessions either for some reason.
[05:08] <rob_p> fireball, What ended up being the thing that allowed it to load?
[05:09] <ryoushi19> I tried doing Ctrl+Alt+F1
[05:09] <lstarnes> ryoushi19: what about recovery mode?
[05:09] <ryoushi19> that works, but then I don't encounter the error.
[05:09] <StevensUbuntuTr1> My neighbor just gave me his old Pentium II 233Mgh with 32Mb RAM.  I would like to do a Linux install.    How can I find out what type of RAM I need to upgrade and how much would you recommend.  I have 3 available slots.
[05:09] <rob_p> fireball, I had stepped away from the computer for a few minutes...
[05:09] <lstarnes> ryoushi19: you might be able to fix it from there?
[05:09] <Psychoholoic> lol damn thats old
[05:09] <ajamison5579> what command can i add to the ubuntu live cd kernel line in grub to temporarily turn off bluetooth
[05:09] <fireball> not sure, removing nautilus scripts by itself was not it. I've put all the extensions back and all seems ok now?
[05:09] <cabrey> StevensUbuntuTr1, thats not a lot to work with, you can't use normal ubuntu on that, try damn small linux or puppy
[05:09] <Psychoholoic> I actually got a 100mhz pent 1 I found in a junk pile, haha
[05:10] <ryoushi19> maybe.  I tried an update, a dpkg reconfigure of gdm and xorg, etc, but none of that worked
[05:10] <TheYeti> StevensUbuntuTr1: It would depend on the motherboard.  Find out what type of mobo you have, do a google search for it, and see what type of ram it takes and how much it can support
[05:10] <ryoushi19> so I don't really know -how- I would fix it from there.
[05:10] <ryoushi19> that's the problem.
[05:10] <cabrey> Psychoholoic, got a 486 somewhere around here
[05:10] <lstarnes> ryoushi19: you could also check some of the logs in /var/log
[05:10] <ryoushi19> mkay, I'll see where that goes and come back.
[05:10] <RHorse> cabrey: damn small will work (barely) on a 486
[05:10] <rob_p> fireball, Strange.  Oh well, glad your back up and running though.
[05:10] <Psychoholoic> lol there was a tandy out there too!
[05:11] <fireball> i think nautilus gksu was conflicting with nautilus scripts, but not sure. The problem appears to be gone, and the desktop back! Thanks for the help
[05:11] <fireball> they are all re-installed and everything seems ok
[05:11] <rob_p> fireball, welcome
[05:11] <StevensUbuntuTr1> TheYeti:  I opened the tower.  How can I find out what type of mother board?  Is there a serial number or something?
[05:11] <fireball> :)
[05:11] <Hilikus> this is what syslog.conf says about the action in a pair
[05:11] <Hilikus> A comma separated list of users. Selected messages are written to
[05:11] <Hilikus> those users if they are logged in.
[05:11] <ajamison5579> anyone
[05:11] <Hilikus> HOW are they written??
[05:12] <lstarnes> Hilikus: how are what written?
[05:12] <TheYeti> StevensUbuntuTr1: Yes, generally there is going to be a brand an type somewhere on the board.  Usually located near either the cpu socket or the ram.  Barring that there will be at least a serial number on it.   If that fails you can at least check what type of ram is already in there.
[05:12] <fireball> huh, the problem is kinda back, no nautilus, but desktop is there
[05:12] <Hilikus> lstarnes those messages that are written say to me, how do i get those messages? how do i read them?
[05:13] <Hilikus> cause i thought it would jsut appear in my ssh console but it doesnt
[05:13] <Hilikus> so where do they go
[05:13] <linuxguy2009> Can anyone say if there is any significant benefit or downside to migrating from ext3 system installation to a ext4 installation for the average user?
[05:13] <cabrey> linuxguy2009, there are noticable performance gains
[05:13] <lstarnes> Hilikus: I'm not exactly sure which messages you're talking about
[05:13] <fccf-sb> linuxguy2009, for the average user ... don't do it
[05:13] <cabrey> linuxguy2009, but if you already have ext3 don't bother going to ext4 until 9.10
[05:14] <lstarnes> Hilikus: oh, wait
[05:14] <TheYeti> linuxguy2009: From what I have read of ext4 for the average user the only real benefit will be performance.  otherwise I doubt you really will be running a system with a large enough volumne to need the increase to maximum file or disk size
[05:14] <fireball> gksu extension i think is the problem
[05:14] <Hilikus> syslog messages
[05:14] <fireball> from terminal yields this: (nautilus:7004): WARNING **: Unable to add monitor: Operation not supported
[05:14] <Hilikus> say i configured daemon.alert to go to my user
[05:14] <lstarnes> Hilikus: thet would probably be sent to the first active real terminal that you're logged into
[05:14] <lstarnes> Hilikus: or possibly by the local mail
[05:14] <rob_p> fireball, Did you add that extension or is it part of the normal package?
[05:15] <linuxguy2009> Hmm cool.Thanks guys.
[05:15] <Hilikus> lstarnes i tried mail, nothing. and the first thing you mentioned, would they just appear in the console? without any command to get them? just show up there?
[05:15] <lstarnes> Hilikus: yes
[05:15] <luyi> HELLO,EVERY GUYS.
[05:15] <lstarnes> Hilikus: I believe so
[05:15] <fireball> no, added. It's supposed to (used to) alow root access to a directory from the nautilus context menu
[05:15] <Hilikus> lstarnes would it have to be a local console or what? cause i'm ssh'd now and it doesnt appear
[05:15] <lstarnes> Hilikus: local
[05:16] <RHorse> !caps > luyi
[05:16] <lstarnes> Hilikus: possibly one of the ones accessed with ctrl+alt+f[1-6]
[05:16] <rob_p> fireball, Remove it then.  Maybe an updated (less buggy) one will be available soon.
[05:17] <rob_p> fireball, You may even find that the writer of that extension has an updated one available to address that issue.
[05:17] <luyi> ubottu, why?
[05:17] <cabrey> !ubottu | luyi
[05:17] <luyi> ubottu, fuck ,you are bot.
[05:17] <lstarnes> !language
[05:17] <rob_p> !language
[05:18] <cabrey> luyi, do you have an issue you need help with?
[05:18] <luyi> ubottu, get out ,asshole bot.
[05:18] <potsataja> when is the new ubuntu coming out?
[05:18] <RukusX> hello. ok i am not sure what to do. my sound in ubuntu 9.04 works everywhere. EXCEPT in firefox. it will work when i first play a flash video, but after that is done. its game over.  any ideas?
[05:18]  * RHorse sighs
[05:18] <lstarnes> luyi: watch your language, please.  This is a support channel and the bot is allowed here by the administration
[05:18] <one_one> dg
[05:19] <lstarnes> potsataja: 9.10 comes out in october
[05:19] <luyi> chinese
[05:19] <cabrey> luyi, seriously. you will be kicked by the ops otherwise
[05:19] <soreau> RukusX: flash plugin is 'nonfree' meaning proprietary as in it's not open sourced software
[05:19] <RukusX> october is the 10th month of the year, for you slow folk
[05:19] <lstarnes> !cn
[05:19] <Cpudan80> luyi: did you actually have an issue that you needed help with?
[05:19] <Cpudan80> In English or otherwise?
[05:19] <luyi> #ubuntu-cn
[05:19] <RukusX> soreau, i'm not asking for offical ubuntu support, i am asking for consultation.
[05:19] <cabrey> luyi, /join #ubuntu-cn
[05:19] <Cpudan80> that's the Chinese help channel, yes
[05:20] <max_789>  Hi, I have a HP g60 laptop (running kubuntu 9.04), it has an nvidia geforce 8200. The geforce has a max resolution of like 2500 something. But the highest resolution i can select is 1366x768. Is there anyway i can force a larger resolution?
[05:20] <soreau> RukusX: There is a free version gnash, but not sure about it's capability
[05:20] <soreau> RukusX: The same thing happens to me, but it takes more than one time to screw up
[05:20] <cabrey> RukusX, what he is saying is that there is nothing we can do about flash
[05:20] <RukusX> soreau, i dont think its a problem with flash itseld, the videos work. maybe its a problem with Pulse Audio?
[05:20] <Cpudan80> max_789: that is the max panel resolution probably
[05:20] <TheYeti> max_789: How are you trying to change the resolution.  Through the gnome display configurator or through the nvidia settings config?
[05:20] <gotgnu> i'm on ubuntu 8.10 and i can't find lirc in the repo where should i look???
[05:20] <Cpudan80> max_789: You can use the nvidia control panel thing to adjust resolutions for external displays
[05:21] <Cpudan80> max_789: you should use the proprietary nvidia driver
[05:21] <porter1> I saw a way to convert v4l2 streams to v4l so that v4l2 devices would work with choosy programs. Anyone know what this is or a way to go about doing this?
[05:21] <Cpudan80> !nvidia max_789
[05:21] <soreau> RukusX: No idea
[05:21] <Cpudan80> oops
[05:21] <Cpudan80> !nvidia | max_789
[05:21] <max_789> TheYeti: Ive tried both ways, it always maxs out at 1366x786,
[05:21] <max_789> Cpudan80: i am using the nvidia driver
[05:21] <cabrey> max_789, nvidia has their own tool
[05:21] <cabrey> max_789, nvidia-settings
[05:21] <lstarnes> gotgnu: aptitude search lirc
[05:21] <Hilikus> lstarnes it didn't work, i tried tty6 and i didnt get anything
[05:21] <Cpudan80> max_789: right right, and the nvidia settings thing wont let you change the res?
[05:22] <lstarnes> Hilikus: it's probably the lowest onw
[05:22] <Cpudan80> max_789: you're not going to be able to change the panel res using any "normal" method
[05:22] <lstarnes> *one
[05:22] <RukusX> how can i view bugs as firefox runs?
[05:22] <max_789> Cpudan80: It lets me change it, only from 300x600 up to 1366x768.
[05:22] <RukusX> how can i view logs as firefox runs?
[05:22] <lstarnes> Hilikus: most messages probably go straight to the log files
[05:22] <cabrey> RukusX, run FF from terminal
[05:22] <RukusX> wahts the right question
[05:22] <RukusX> ok
[05:22] <cabrey> RukusX, & view logs
[05:22] <RukusX> ok
[05:22] <Cpudan80> max_789: right, the maximum resolution for the laptop's internal display is probably 1366x768
[05:22] <Cpudan80> max_789: Going higher than that could fry the panel, no fun
[05:22] <max_789> How can i find out if that is the max or not?
[05:22] <cabrey> max_789, google your model
[05:23] <RukusX> ok thanks
[05:23] <cabrey> max_789, or look on your hp box
[05:23] <soreau> max_789: Have you ever ran another operating system on that machine?
[05:23] <Cpudan80> 1366x768 is a very common widescreen laptop resolution
[05:23] <cabrey> max_789, that actually sounds about right
[05:23] <max_789> soreau: noi havent
[05:23] <gotgnu> lstarnes: thanks I got it via aptiude...its weird that synaptic didn't show it
[05:23] <Cpudan80> I'd put money on that being the max resolution
[05:23] <TheYeti> I know that the stock 8200 has a max resolution of 1900x1200 If this is a laptop it might be slightly lower though
[05:23] <soreau> max_789: Then it is very possible that's the max for the physical screen
[05:24] <porter1> anyone know how to loop a v4l2 to a v4l device so that pcky programs work with v4l2 devices?
[05:24] <soreau> max_789: Also, you can look in /var/log/Xorg.0.log to view what resolutions X tried and denied
[05:24] <RukusX> cabrey and soreau , update. sound start working again on open and close of firefox
[05:24] <fireball> intermittant problem arrrggghhhh\!
[05:24] <potsataja> Oh, my flash slows down everything, when i use it in youtube for example. It lags, familiar problem to anyone?
[05:24] <RukusX> close and open.. rather
[05:24] <cabrey> max_789, that is the max res
[05:24] <cabrey> http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=c01533413&cc=us&dlc=en&lc=en
[05:25] <fireball> deleted all extensions again, problem nautilus still non-functioning, desktop ok
[05:25] <RHorse> potsataja: latest version 10 of Adobe Flash installed in correct dir's?
[05:25] <Hilikus> lstarnes they do, but that's what i'm changing, i am changing the action to instead of dump it in a file, send it to me, but i dont get it anywere, i can't read those messages
[05:25] <cabrey> RukusX, 32 or 64  bit?
[05:26] <RukusX> cabrey,  32 bit
[05:26] <ryoushi19> K, I got nothing
[05:26] <lstarnes> Hilikus: I'm not sure what to do then
[05:26] <cabrey> RukusX, install epiphany-browser and see if that does the same thing
[05:26] <RukusX> cabrey its very random
[05:26] <max_789> Well darn.
[05:26] <max_789> Thanks anyway guys
[05:27] <fireball> deleted nautilyus actions, things working again, but i thing something else completely is breaking it
[05:27] <ryoushi19> Still the same error -Server already running on display :0, no helpful info from /var/log.
[05:27] <Grm`Rpr> I may very well have the wrong channel but am hoping someone can tell me where I can get some help
[05:28] <potsataja> oh, my firefox uses swfdec 0.8.2 instead, so i should probably uninstall it and install the newest adobe flash?
[05:28] <RukusX> cabrey i will need to test over tonight and tomorrow.  i cant replicate the problem as its random.
[05:28] <brianWeb> hey can someone help me out here. i am trying to unstall linux on my aspire one but when i restart with usb disk  the boot menu never can find the usb disk
[05:29] <potsataja> brianWeb: enter BIOS, and change it to boot from USB
[05:29] <brianWeb> i dont know how
[05:29] <ryoushi19> brianWeb, change the boot order in your BIOS.  Generally you start the BIOS by pressing a key indicated at the statup of the computer.  Usually an F key.
[05:29] <ryoushi19> i.e F1, F2, etc.
[05:30] <Bearcat> folks, i'm running eebuntu 2.0 and attempting to set up my wireless network. I have never set one up before but i've worked with wired networks *a lot*. When i booted this eepc in to windows this afternoon i was able to get a connection so i know that the module and my router works.
[05:30] <Bearcat> i just don't know what these parameters are.
[05:30] <RukusX> what in the world is epihpany-browser? i lightened version of firefox?!?!
[05:30] <cabrey> Bearcat, it isn't working?
[05:30] <lstarnes> RukusX: no, it's a different browser entirely
[05:30] <cabrey> RukusX, a pure gtk browser
[05:30] <Grm`Rpr> I made an edit to my /ect/apt/sources.list file and somehow the file is now empty I have no repositories in it does anyone know how I can fix it?
[05:31] <RukusX> i like it
[05:31] <cabrey> RukusX, use that for a while and see if it duplicates the problem
[05:31] <RukusX> nope i don't. it does flash very poorly
[05:31] <RHorse> Grm`Rpr: google is your friend
[05:31] <cabrey> RukusX, worse than FF?
[05:32] <RukusX> no wait its working now
[05:32] <RukusX> just really butchered the eye candy for the website
[05:32] <cabrey> RukusX, make a decision :P
[05:32] <RukusX> maybe thats not flash
[05:32] <RukusX> haha
[05:32] <Grm`Rpr> thats where I started my edit I was trying remove # in the file so that all repositories were available
[05:33] <Bearcat> cabrey: it seems to be trying to make a connection. I have security turned off, to minimise complications. I have the same thing in SSID in both the router and the set up window on the eee. The BSSID is blank as is the MAC address in the setup on the eee.
[05:33] <RHorse> Grm`Rpr: just google sources.list 'distro'
[05:33] <cabrey> Bearcat, what Eee?
[05:33] <Bearcat> cabrey: hoever it seems to be timing out or something. I never get any error messages.
[05:33] <Bearcat> cabrey: 901
[05:33] <cabrey> on a 900ha here
[05:33] <cabrey> hold on
[05:33] <Bearcat> cabrey: thank you so much.
[05:33] <Grm`Rpr> and those go into that file RHorse ???
[05:34] <The_Warlock> how do i change the size of my urxvt terminal using keyboard shortcuts?
[05:34] <Nicekiwi9> hurro, I need some help with setting up the displays in 9.04
[05:34] <RukusX> cabrey no it really did some slow performance on the eye candy flash for the website, but the video and sound is playing well
[05:34] <histo> The_Warlock: hit alt and go to terminal then select one of the 4 sizes
[05:35] <AE2> Hey I am trying to do a dual boot do I have to remove the Linux swap for me to be able to partition the drive to open up some space for the OS
[05:35] <cabrey> Bearcat, the normal ubuntu release supports your model natively but maybe a proprietary driver is available
[05:35] <RHorse> Grm`Rpr: correct, into /etc/apt/sources.list. You have to edit and save file as superuser
[05:35] <RHorse> Grm`Rpr: then sudo apt-get update to update cache
[05:35] <The_Warlock> histo: I think i didnt get you...is this for gnome terminal or urxvt?
[05:35] <Bearcat> cabrey: well i have a module loaded
[05:35] <cabrey> Bearcat, what is it?
[05:35] <Grm`Rpr> it asks me to rename the file when I try to save
[05:36] <Grm`Rpr> I think that is where I made my mistake and erased the file in the first place
[05:36] <RHorse> Grm`Rpr: just type in /etc/apt/sources.list. Are you editing as superuser?
[05:36] <cabrey> Bearcat, also is this a new install?
[05:37] <Grm`Rpr> I'm not sure what to do at that point I tried several ways and when it finally saved it saves an empty file
[05:37] <Grm`Rpr> and yes superuser on nano
[05:37] <Bearcat> cabrey: rt2860sta and yes a brand new install. Just an hour ago
[05:37] <cabrey> Bearcat, and did you manually compile/load that module?
[05:38] <RHorse> Grm`Rpr: do you have gedit or another X editor? Use that with gksudo.
[05:38] <Grm`Rpr> I have gedit
[05:38] <Guest91790> hi
[05:38] <Bearcat> cabrey: in /var/log/messages i'm seeing rt_ioctl_giwscan. 2(2) BSS returned, data_>length = 175
[05:38] <RHorse> Grm`Rpr: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:38] <Guest91790> ?
[05:39] <Grm`Rpr> then I have to find the distro on google
[05:39] <Grm`Rpr> so far not having any luck
[05:39] <Bearcat> cabrey: i have no idea what that means. This is a fresh install straght off the iso. I have not compiled or installed anything.
[05:39] <RHorse> Grm`Rpr: it shouldn't be *too* hard!
[05:39] <cabrey> Bearcat, run dmesg | tail --lines=40 and put it into pastebin
[05:39] <cabrey> !pastebin
[05:40] <AE2> Can someone help me out with a Partitioning Problem
[05:40] <Grm`Rpr> LOL I have a lot of hits on the query as you told me to type it
[05:40] <Bearcat> cabrey: yeah, i know pastebin :") however getting it to my other pc is gonna be a pain...
[05:40] <Grm`Rpr> just haven't found the actually list
[05:40] <Bearcat> cabrey: i'll do that though. Thanks.
[05:40] <cabrey> Bearcat, ohhh dear forget that
[05:40] <cabrey> Bearcat, can you plug in ethernet?
[05:40] <fireball> ok, "nautilus actions" is the problem, not sure exasctly what though, thanks for the pointers, gotta go, ciao
[05:41] <Bearcat> cabrey: no probs. That's what usb keys are for
[05:41] <calmbola> anyone have any idea what the dif is between ubuntu for dell mini and a regular distribution
[05:42] <kibil> djrto
[05:42] <RHorse> calmbola: it's mostly aesthetic
[05:42] <randabis> the netbook version is optimized for use on netbooks
[05:42] <cabrey> calmbola, from ddell?
[05:45] <calmbola> cabrey, yes
[05:45] <cabrey> calmbola, dell's custom interface, and some proprietary drivers are integrated in
[05:45] <Bearcat> cabrey: http://paste.ubuntu.com/193201/ <-- dmsg output. Thank you for the help so far.
[05:46] <calmbola> cabrey, can i install a standard ubuntu edition?
[05:46] <calmbola> i disabled the custom interface - i wanted my real ubuntu
[05:46] <cabrey> calmbola, yea it should work
[05:47] <calmbola> ok
[05:47] <Bearcat> cabrey: for what it's worth, when i do a ifconfig -a i see both a pan0 and an ra0 (as well as eth0 and lo
[05:47] <Bearcat>  
[05:47] <calmbola> i hate the way it seems like dell INTENTIONALLY made the comp slower
[05:47] <calmbola> cabrey, any ideas how i can overclock on my dell mini 10 with ubuntu?
[05:47] <cabrey> Bearcat, run uname -r
[05:47] <cabrey> calmbola, no idea have an eee here
[05:47] <calmbola> cabrey, did you have to overclock yours?
[05:47] <Bearcat> cabrey: 2.6.28-11-generic
[05:48] <potsataja> could somebody tell me why my integrated bluetooth and wireless card on my HP Pavilion stopped working, and bluetooth even crashed my laptop when i was using windows xp, and now that i'm using ubuntu, they all work perfectly. Could this be somekinda clever software scheme from microsoft to make people buy new laptops, my laptop is 2 years old now.
[05:48] <cabrey> Bearcat, we can try installing an eee specific kernel, maybe the driver in there will be of higher quality? at least it was for me
[05:48] <cabrey> calmbola, no, well, besides the FSB
[05:48] <Myrtti> potsataja: to you fortune windows and linux have very little in common. That behaviour isn't surprising or new.
[05:50] <Bearcat> cabrey: given that this is eeebuntu, it *is* a eee specific kernel i thought.
[05:50] <cabrey> Bearcat, nope thats why i told you to run uname -r
[05:50] <cabrey> it came out as -generic
[05:50] <Bearcat> what the heck...
[05:50] <potsataja> I mean, i when i did a format c and reinstalled my windows, they still didn't function. Is windows checking the release dates of my hardware and upon that decides whether to work or screw with me?
[05:50] <cabrey> Bearcat, but here: http://array.org/ubuntu/setup-jaunty.html
[05:51] <cabrey> Bearcat, you have to use ethernet to setup the repo
[05:51] <Myrtti> potsataja: whatever it is, it's not related to ubuntu, and hence to this channel
[05:51] <Bearcat> cabrey: i wonder if i have an extra network cable..
[05:51] <potsataja> ok, i just have to say, my laptop is like brand new again, when i'm using ubuntu, cause everything works again like new.
[05:51] <cabrey> Bearcat, as an added bonus, this kernel is faster
[05:52] <Myrtti> potsataja: brilliant.
[05:52] <cabrey> ^ haha
[05:52] <potsataja> hehe
[05:52] <Bearcat> cabrey: sweet
[05:52] <calmbola> cabrey, yeah the fsb is for windows tho
[05:52] <calmbola> t
[05:52] <cabrey> calmbola, i installed eee-applet which allows me to control it in conjunction with the eeepc kernel
[05:53] <calmbola> lucky
[05:53] <calmbola> do you think the ee is better than the dell mini, cabrey?
[05:54] <cabrey> calmbola, idk tbh anyways were going !ot. but i will say this: i am disappointed in asus
[05:54] <[Crussd2]> how do i installing huawei e220 modem on jaunty?
[05:54] <Bearcat> cabrey: thanks !
[05:54] <calmbola> what does tbh mean and why, cabrey?
[05:55] <[Crussd2]> how do i installing huawei e220 on jaunty?
[05:55] <cabrey> calmbola, to be honest. asus is now in MS' back pocket
[05:55] <The_Warlock> what is the command for increasing the size of a urxvt session window
[05:55] <calmbola> ugh
[05:55] <calmbola> that rots
[05:55] <[Crussd2]> how do i installing huawei e220 on jaunty?
[05:57] <Grm`Rpr> anyone know how I can save a file from gedit to /ect/apt/sources.list ?
[05:57] <cabrey> Grm`Rpr, use gksu
[05:57] <Grm`Rpr> I need to replace the sources list
[05:57] <Grm`Rpr> in a terminal window?
[05:57] <cabrey> alt-f2 gksu gedit
[05:58] <lucax> im looking for a new desktop for my ubuntu, ive tried kde and gnome, neither of them convince me, where can i look for a new one?
[06:00] <pyro2927> does anyone here use a Dell laptop with NVidia graphics card?
[06:00] <kandinski> Grm`Rpr: no, anywere
[06:00] <kandinski> alt-f2 is the application launcher
[06:00] <nirupama> Hi took apache source and did ./configure --enable-so and then make make install.How to build package for that with the modifications
[06:01] <cabrey> !checkinstall
[06:01] <Grm`Rpr> k I just did a gedit /ect/apt/sources.list
[06:01] <kandinski> gksu launches gedit in root mode, so you can save stuff on top of /etc/apt/sources.list, which is root-owned and not writable by normal users
[06:01] <Grm`Rpr> it opened and I put in all the info
[06:01] <Grm`Rpr> but it won't save says the file doesn't exist
[06:01] <cabrey> Grm`Rpr, you didnt launch it with gksu
[06:01] <kandinski> Grm`Rpr: that wont do because sources.list is not writable by the world
[06:01] <jeeves> what would be causing my laptop to randomly blank my display like it's going into power save?
[06:02] <kandinski> Grm`Rpr: also it-s /etc/ not /etc/
[06:02] <paulina> i am trying to view a webpage that says at the bottom created on a mac. I cannot view the album for the photos that I am wanting to see. They will not appear on my browser and I was wondering a way in which i could view them using Ubuntu. Any Help???
[06:02] <Grm`Rpr> gksu gedit /ect/apt/sources.list
[06:02] <kandinski> Grm`Rpr: watch those typos
[06:02] <cabrey> jeeves, System > Preferences > Power Management
[06:02] <Grm`Rpr> thats what I opened
[06:02] <jeeves> cabrey, I've disabled all of the power management functions
[06:02] <kandinski> Grm`Rpr: read what we tell you and watch your typos: it's /etc not /ect
[06:02] <Grm`Rpr> so I need a -s in the line??
[06:02] <ke-_-vin> hi guys, I just update my system to jaunty, but it shows "IO APIC cannot be allocated", anybody has an idea how to fix that?
[06:03] <Grm`Rpr> oh geez
[06:03] <kandinski> Grm`Rpr: read what you typed, /ect does not exist
[06:03] <cabrey> gksu gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:03] <cabrey> as in et cetera
[06:03] <kandinski> cabrey, don't you mean ec tetera?
[06:04]  * kandinski giggles
[06:04] <cabrey> oh i see what you did there
[06:04] <Grm`Rpr> k I've saved it
[06:04] <cabrey> Grm`Rpr, open a terminal sudo aptitude update
[06:05] <kandinski> sudo atpidude udtape
[06:05] <cabrey> you're horrible
[06:05] <Oprtz1> hi there, how to make a round cube in compiz? instead of the old cube ? thanks
[06:05] <Grm`Rpr> it responds sudo aptitude update
[06:05] <Grm`Rpr> E: Type 'See' is not known on line 2 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:05] <Grm`Rpr> E: Couldn't read list of package sources
[06:06] <cabrey> Oprtz1, install simple-ccsm
[06:06] <cabrey> Grm`Rpr, you typed the world 'See' in there on line 2
[06:06] <Oprtz1> cabrey: its already installled, and i can use 4 way cube
[06:06] <kandinski> Grm`Rpr: you really need to proofread everything twice
[06:06] <cabrey> Oprtz1, open it up
[06:06] <Grm`Rpr> I think I found something
[06:07] <paulina> is there a way to view images on a web page that was created on a mac?? The page shows up but none of the images
[06:07] <Grm`Rpr> I'm looking at what I saved line to starts with the word see and a command is later in it
[06:07] <cabrey> Oprtz1, go to effects tab
[06:07] <Oprtz1> okie
[06:07] <cabrey> Cube Effects
[06:07] <cabrey> Deformation
[06:07] <kandinski> Grm`Rpr: remove the word "see@
[06:07] <Grm`Rpr> gonna proofread the whole distro
[06:07] <kandinski> Grm`Rpr: sometimes we type stuff into gedit that we meant to type into irc
[06:07] <Oprtz1> cabrey: it says it is conflicting
[06:07] <kandinski> Grm`Rpr: not the whole distro, just your input
[06:08] <cabrey> Oprtz1, with what?
[06:08] <Oprtz1> cabrey: it says its conflicting with other plugin( no name specified there)
[06:08] <Bearcat> cabrey: i know this is silly (i'm not an ubuntu user normally, i compile everything from source), but trying to follow that page, i don't have a deb command
[06:08] <cabrey> Oprtz1, does it not accept it or?
[06:09] <cabrey> Bearcat, you install debs via apt-get/aptitude
[06:09] <Bearcat> cabrey: ahh, so apt-get dep ...bla bla
[06:09] <Oprtz1> cabrey: it says it will rectify the conflict
[06:09] <kandinski> Bearcat: or System/Administration/Synaptic Package Manager, if you like the GUI
[06:10] <Oprtz1> can i go for it ?
[06:10] <Bearcat> kandinski: thanks
[06:10] <cabrey> Bearcat, after you add the repo: sudo apt-get install linux-netbook-eeepc
[06:10] <cabrey> Oprtz1, go to System > Preferences > Appearance > Visual Effects tab
[06:11] <Oprtz1> cabrey: it says it has conflict with Desktop cube
[06:11] <ryoushi19> My X server is completely, critically broken in every way possible, to the point that I can't start the desktop.  This should never happen on a mainstream Operating system.  The error is a blue screen that says "The X Server is already running on Display :0".  If you say yes to the dialog, it just goes through and says that it's already runningo n display :1.  If you say no, it goes back to GDM.  I need help.
[06:11] <potsataja> here's and interesting topic, that i've been through http://www.reallylinux.com/docs/linuxforhardware.shtml
[06:11]  * cabrey will be right back
[06:11] <BeatlesFan> hey all
[06:11] <loserbar> hi everybody
[06:11] <Grm`Rpr> k I'm assuming that only lines with deb in my sources list can be read
[06:12] <Oprtz1> cabrey: okie
[06:12] <cabrey> Oprtz1, select the Normal radio button
[06:12] <cabrey> Oprtz1, then close simple-ccsm and reopen it
[06:13] <kaiwai> hi, where abouts is the settings saved to by Network Manager?
[06:14] <Cute`SkinnyBot> j gim4medan
[06:18] <elad`> I don't have sounds in youtube videos. Help?
[06:18] <loserbar> that could be alot of things, care to be more specific?
[06:18] <Oprtz> cabrey:  i am back
[06:18] <cabrey> did you try that stuff?
[06:20] <elad`> Well, the movies play, but there's no audio.
[06:20] <Oprtz> cabrey: yes but now i cant use the cube lol
[06:21] <cabrey> Oprtz, go back into simple-ccsm and select cube in the desktop tab
[06:21] <Oprtz> okie
[06:21] <ago> ciao
[06:21] <Oprtz> cabrey: wow now i can use the round cube :) thank u man
[06:22] <loserbar> ok so elad, sound works otherwise?
[06:22] <cabrey> :)
[06:22] <Oprtz> thanks for helping me out, u guys are really good
[06:23] <dsdeiz> oh, so in compiz configuration there is simple-ccsm and ccsm?
[06:23] <dsdeiz> !simple-ccsm > dsdeiz
[06:23] <cabrey> !info simple-ccsm
[06:23] <Brack10> is there an app that I can redirect output to and it will create a pastebin link?
[06:24] <dsdeiz> !info pastebinit
[06:24] <dsdeiz> ?
[06:24] <cabrey> im starting to realize that linux has a solution for everything
[06:25] <dsdeiz> it's different from compizconfig-settings-manager ?
[06:25] <cabrey> dsdeiz, simpler and easier to manager
[06:25] <JohnFlux> How do I unassemble a raid device?
[06:25] <cabrey> manage*
[06:25] <dsdeiz> hooray
[06:25] <dsdeiz> thanks
[06:25] <cabrey> !raid
[06:25] <elad`> loserbar, yeah.
[06:27] <loserbar> elad: is this a fresh install youre working with or have you had sound before but no longer?
[06:33] <TwistedLogic> bah
[06:33]  * TwistedLogic bored
[06:33] <konza> .
[06:33] <konza> .
[06:33] <nahy> hi guys. my firefox can not show videos on youtube for example
[06:34] <loserbar> furthermore is this  a constant with all of your browsers and have you checked the forums as well?
[06:34] <TwistedLogic> did you install flash player
[06:34] <kandinski> nahy, go to orisinal.com and tell me what you see
[06:34] <TwistedLogic> ??
[06:34] <konza> can not install mysql server 5.0....what to do
[06:34] <nahy> i reinstalled it
[06:34] <barbarella> konza:error please
[06:34] <kandinski> nahy: do you see the little flash games there?
[06:35] <nahy> i see some pictures
[06:35] <nahy> i see them
[06:35] <kandinski> can you play the games?
[06:36] <kandinski> if you do, you have flash, and your youtube videos problem is most likely due to other issues
[06:36] <Grm`Rpr> gotta go but will be sure to come back thanks ya'll :-)
[06:37] <nahy> yes i can play
[06:37] <konza> barbarella, sudo apt-get install mysql-server-5.0 ....................................... 403 forbidden... unable to fetch some archives
[06:37] <nahy> i any page with flash movies i have the same problem
[06:38] <barbarella> konza:which ubuntu version are you using?
[06:38] <BABER> hi
[06:38] <konza> barbarella, 8.10
[06:39] <BABER> where is image menu in gimp 2.4.5 ?
[06:39] <eipark> hi i just installed a new program with the synaptic package manager but i have no idea how to run what i just installed
[06:39] <konza> BABER,  hi
[06:39] <kandinski> nahy: if you press the right/button on a game, what version of flash does it report for you?
[06:39] <konza> eipark,  what did u install?
[06:39] <eipark> synergy
[06:40] <nahy> flash player 10
[06:40] <barbarella> konza:can you pastebin your sources.list?
[06:41] <kandinski> nahy: I think you have connection problems, not ubuntu/firefox/flash problems
[06:41] <eipark> any help konza?
[06:42] <nahy> but in windows with the same sort of connection and speed i can see them
[06:42] <konza> barbarella, how to do pastebin..  i am new here
[06:42] <kandinski> nahy: good point, but it's beyond me maybe someone else can help you
[06:42] <ashmew2> !paste|konza
[06:42] <nahy> thx anyway dear friend
[06:43] <konza> eipark, type the name before telling anything otherwise it willbe difficult to find out
[06:43] <BABER> how can make gzip file in terminal?
[06:43] <eipark> anybody know how to find a program after its been installed?
[06:43] <eipark> synergy
[06:43] <Geoffrey2> i'm trying to set up grub to load an os on sda6, I've tried hd(0,4) and hd (0,5), and neither works
[06:43] <konza> eipark, go to termina and type synergy
[06:43] <eipark> command not found
[06:43] <ashmew2> eipark: You could try opening the terminal and typing synergy there. Also , a Log Out/Log In can help refresh the menus sometimes.
[06:44] <cattellar> it's this time of the year where I want to format my distro and try another one..... I must resist....
[06:44] <nahy> kandinski: should i repeat my question about the problem for the chan again?
[06:44] <eipark> ill try logging out and logging in...
[06:44] <ashmew2> cattellar: Fedora 11 just released.
[06:44] <cattellar> :o
[06:44] <cattellar> ashmew2, how is it looking?
[06:44] <kandinski> nahy, maybe wait a bit so the people are new
[06:44] <BABER> how can make gz file?
[06:45] <ashmew2> cattellar: Well , It's pretty slick i think with all the stuff those crazy bastards keep adding hehe ;)
[06:45] <eipark> i still can't find the program
[06:45] <nahy> ok buddy
[06:45] <barbarella> BABER:gzip options or tar -zcf
[06:45] <ashmew2> BABER: Right Click the files you want to make into a .gz file , Click Add to Archive. Archive Type : Gz. Enter the Archive Name. Press Enter.
[06:46] <ashmew2> cattellar: Its worth a try if you ask me.
[06:46] <ashmew2> Well , Later ppl
[06:46]  * fccf-os is available for tech chat on skype /msg for more info
[06:47] <BABER> barbarella: your mean is this ? gzip ubuntu.xpm ?
[06:47] <konza> barbarella,  did it
[06:47] <eipark> any idea how to find a program after installing it?
[06:48] <fccf-os> eipark,  What Prog?
[06:48] <konza> eipark,  whats the result
[06:48] <eipark> synergy
[06:48] <barbarella> BABER:yes, or with option -r or -9. type gzip --help
[06:48] <eipark> can't find it on the command line
[06:48] <eipark> logging in/out won't work
[06:48] <fccf-os> eipark, remind me of what synergy is?
[06:48] <barbarella> konza:now you have to paste the url
[06:48] <eipark> lets you share KM across multiple computers
[06:49] <konza> barbarella,   http://paste.ubuntu.com/193223/
[06:49] <fccf-os> eipark, are you sure you don't want to use x2vnc , really easy solution
[06:49] <eipark> what is it
[06:49] <TimReichhart> could anybody tell me how to sim link a 56k modem
[06:50] <jj_galvez> eipark: /usr/bin/synergyc
[06:50] <fccf-os> eipark, it is a vnc client that just sends the mouse/kb to the next monitor over the network
[06:50] <kandinski> fccf-os, eipark: synergy blows x2vnc out of the water
[06:50] <BABER> barbarella: when i typed gzip -r ubuntu.xpm it show this error no such file or directory?
[06:50] <eipark> yeah synergy seems solid
[06:50] <eipark> but i cant find it!
[06:50] <eipark> i installed it using the package manager
[06:50] <eipark> but i don tsee it in add/remove programs
[06:50] <kandinski> hmm
[06:51] <kandinski> eipark: there  is a GUI synergy helper
[06:51] <jj_galvez> eipark: install qsynergy
[06:51] <kandinski> eipark: what jj_galvez said
[06:51] <jj_galvez> eipark: qsynergy its a very nice GUI for it
[06:51] <Geoffrey2> I'm trying to get grub to chainload a Windows version I installed, I get Error 12: Invalid device requested
[06:52] <fccf-os> eipark, the command is synergys ... more info https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynergyHowto
[06:52] <eipark> regardless, i can't find a program after i download
[06:52] <Hellow> lolroot
[06:52] <jj_galvez> eipark: use which synergyc that will tell you where the exacutable is
[06:52] <fccf-os> I love when people log in as root
[06:53] <Hellow> fccf-os: Its like they want to get pwned
[06:53] <eipark> ok
[06:53] <eipark> is this the only way to do this? i feel like this is overly complicated
[06:53] <eipark> granted i am completley new and have no idea what im doing
[06:53] <jj_galvez> eipark: also if you installed it via synaptic you can look the package back up and look at installed files that will tell you everything and where things get placed
[06:53] <fccf-os> Hellow, yep I usually give a warning but they left
[06:53] <eipark> i did that before, but how do i know which one is the executable program
[06:53] <konza> barbarella, got any solution
[06:54] <fccf-os> eipark, again the executable is synergys
[06:54] <jj_galvez> eipark: exacutables usually end up in /usr/bin
[06:54] <Hellow> fccf-os: "ohai look at me WTF IS GOING ON WIT MY COMPUT...."
[06:54] <eipark> how do i run it?
[06:55] <eipark> i double click it and nothing happens
[06:55] <fccf-os> eipark, perhaps you should read all of this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynergyHowto
[06:55] <jj_galvez> eipark: synergy will not put anything in the menu because its not a gui program, if you install qsynergy you will bet a menu option unter applications>assesories
[06:55] <dittykong> alt+f2 and enter the program name or in terminal enter the program name
[06:56] <eipark> ok thans
[06:56] <jj_galvez> eipark: its a very nice cross-platform gui for that program, and the easiest way to use it
[06:56] <texasjack> What's the difference between these packages: linux, linux-generic (Complete Generic Linux kernel) and linux-image (Generic Linux kernel image). These descriptions are closely the same... :S
[06:56] <eipark> so with synergy now, i d have to use the command line to work it
[06:56] <eipark> but qsynergy will just give me a gui to run it
[06:56] <jj_galvez> eipark: right you still need to install the synergy package
[06:56] <fccf-os> texasjack, the linux-generic depends on linux-image
[06:57] <barbarella> konza:yes a sec let me look for you
[06:57] <jj_galvez> eipark: but if you install it it will find it since it will end up in your path, so you really don't need to worry about it after that
[06:57] <qiyong> how can I get apt-mirror to mirror two arch's ?
[06:57] <qiyong> how can I get apt-mirror to mirror two arch's ?
[06:58] <texasjack> fccf-os, right, and thanks for the answre. Now, another thing. I'm on a Pentium IV with HT. What kernel should I install? linux, linux-generic or linux-386?
[06:58]  * Geoffrey2 sighs
[06:59] <Hellow> heh
[06:59] <raghu125coorg> can i ask srag report question here?
[06:59] <fccf-os> texasjack, I actually had one of those so I know that the generic works well on that chipset
[06:59] <raghu125coorg> can i ask sarg report question here?
[07:00] <texasjack> fccf-os, humm, but I looked in some places (bad memory) and it's compiled with -march=i686, right? Shouldn't it has to be -march=pentium4?
[07:01] <majestictwo> Anyone up on Text to Speech in applications (ubuntu)
[07:01] <Bearcat> thanks for the help folks!
[07:01] <fccf-os> texasjack, I am not sure what you mean about "march"
[07:01] <ihtarlik> I would like to know the name of the program that manages pending updates to versions of config files in /etc during package updates.  I can't remember it and can't find anything on Google or with man -k
[07:02] <ihtarlik> and march setting depends on your glibc version
[07:02] <ihtarlik> it may support the shortcut pentium4 or not depending on the version
[07:03] <fccf-os> hold on I'll be back - switching to a better desktop
[07:03] <barbarella> konza:you must install mysql-dfsg
[07:04] <fccf-virt> oh that is so much nicer
[07:04] <texasjack> fccf-os, "No Problemo."  Another one?  Today I was trying to install linux-rt, and after a long, long, time viewing the info about packages... I installed it. But there's no way, or I haven't discover it yet, to make proprietary nvidia drivers to work with linux-rt.  Do you have some info about it?
[07:04] <Geoffrey2> anyone know a channel where grub-legacy is still supported?
[07:05] <j4j4k4_pr14n64n> hello all
[07:05] <ikHeeZs> jombang
[07:05] <texasjack> ihtarlik, how can I view the march setting of glibc6?
[07:05] <majestictwo> Anyone up on Text to Speech in applications (ubuntu)
[07:06] <nahy> hi guys. my firefox can not show videos on youtube for example
[07:06] <fccf-virt> texasjack: 1 unless you really need linux-rt I wouldn't reccommend it - the nvidia driver does not work with linux-rt
[07:07] <j4j4k4_pr14n64n> firefox need a flash player plugin maybe..
[07:07] <fccf-virt> texasjack: what kind of application do you have that requires realtime processing?
[07:07] <nahy> i reinstalled it
[07:07] <fccf-virt> !flash | j4j4k4_pr14n64n
[07:07] <konza> barbarella,  is ther any problem in my sources.list
[07:07] <Darkpriest667> ok here is a question you guys might be able to answer
[07:07] <ikHeeZs> ewte
[07:08] <Darkpriest667> Ive got a IC50 Micro innovations webcam.... it doesnt work on skype or any flash applets but it works on ekiga?
[07:08] <texasjack> fccf-virt, desktop!  Real-time responsiveness... That's what I was looking.
[07:08] <nahy> i reintalled flashplaye 10 but doesn't work
[07:08] <dsdeiz> !info flashplugin-nonfree
[07:08] <Darkpriest667> ive got 9.04
[07:08] <dsdeiz> is that it?
[07:08] <barbarella> konza:you must install mysql-dfsg
[07:09] <max_45> Hi, i seem to be having a problem with audio playback. It keeps skipping and jumping around during playback. This happens with amarok, youtube videos. Does anyone know what would cause this skipping around?
[07:09] <Geoffrey2> one of these days I need to come in here with a really complicated question....i might actually get an answer :/
[07:09] <majestictwo> Text to Speech in applications
[07:09] <majestictwo> I have installed “Text to Speech” on my machine. I have tested it in “Terminal” and it works fine from there. Where I am stuck is how do I activate it in say a browser or open office.
[07:09] <majestictwo> Any clues accepted
[07:09] <FloodBot2> majestictwo: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:10] <fccf-virt> texasjack: you arn't going to see any improvement in responsiveness using linux-rt ... that is more for control systems, audio, video, and the like ... whereas that hardware plays video beautifully without the need for linux-rt
[07:11] <milad> hey all, I have vista and ubuntu 9.04 installed on my laptop, they are on seperate harddrives and upgraded vista to windows 7 and its trashed my grub, I can't access my ubuntu. I have tried the super grub tool and it keeps hanging.
[07:13] <majestictwo> Q: Text to Speech in applications, I have installed “Text to Speech” on my machine. I have tested it in “Terminal” and it works fine from there. Where I am stuck is how do I activate it in say a browser or open office. Any clues accepted
[07:14] <texasjack> fccf-virt, hummm... Great to know.  I was totally misunderstanding this.  And the final question: how can I "clean" (remove+purge) linux-rt, and install a fresh new linux-generic?
[07:15] <cattellar> any good pointer on how to develope gnome applets?
[07:15] <squidge> Q:  I have a new Asus G71G with an Atheros 928x bgn wireless card.  Driver loads fine, bluetooth works (it's integrated), but it never sees any networks.  Can anyone help please?
[07:15] <Darkpriest667> Majestictwo you might try the ubuntu message boards.. I dont think we are going ot get any help here
[07:16] <squidge> More info:  my problem is nearly identical to this one:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7398871, but I'm running Ubuntu, and the proposed fix of disabling Network Manager doesn't work for me.
[07:17] <Darkpriest667> Majestic i wish you luck in finding a fix.. If i knew of one id help... I certainly dont and it seems that experienced linux users are more stuck up than mac users.. which says something.. maybe i was mistaken switching to linux.. I wish DOS was back
[07:18] <ihtarlik> Anyone know the command line application used to manage versions of configuration files that get updated during package updates?
[07:18] <Darkpriest667> take care :-)
[07:19] <max_45> Hi, i seem to be having a problem with audio playback. It keeps skipping and jumping around during playback. This happens with amarok, youtube videos. Does anyone know what would cause this skipping around?
[07:20] <squidge> ihtarlik, maybe dpkg-reconfigure?
[07:23] <texasjack> How can I "clean" (remove+purge) a linux-rt kernel, and install again the _latest_ linux-generic?
[07:24] <opop> trying to import a gpg keyfile from a ppa, and it's not working for me.  maybe malformed?
[07:24] <opop> I dunno.
[07:25] <squidge> opop, which ppa?
[07:25] <opop> http://ppa.launchpad.net/bogdanb/ppa/ubuntu/dists/jaunty/
[07:25] <opop> squidge, ^^
[07:27] <squidge> opop, hold on while I check it out
[07:27] <opop> squidge, groovy, ty
[07:27] <Guest65777> How do get a a file to open in windows
[07:27] <fccf-vir1> Sorry, folks I lost my internet for a moment
[07:27] <opop> squidge, the purpose is to get an amarok 1.4 backport so i can start syncing my iphone again.
[07:27] <opop> fockers.
[07:27] <opop> meet the fockers was a fantastic film
[07:28] <fccf-vir1> !ot
[07:28] <Guest65777> I have open office and no one seems to be able to open them in windows
[07:28] <ActionParsnip> opop: the backport is broken right now
[07:28] <opop> ActionParsnip, dang it.
[07:28] <opop> the 1.4 backport, ActionParsnip
[07:28] <fccf-vir1> Guest65777:  you will need to save in the .doc format
[07:28] <ActionParsnip> opop: its a dependancy thing
[07:28] <opop> ActionParsnip, dang it.
[07:29] <ActionParsnip> opop: the repo is available, you can install amarok14-common, just not amarok14 as it moans the dep isnt there when it is
[07:29] <opop> ActionParsnip, i so wish they wouldn't move forward with "upgrades" that provide less functionality than the original.  sigh.
[07:29] <Guest65777> would I be able to do that through the file
[07:29] <ActionParsnip> opop: but that was some 6 hours ago so may be worth a try
[07:29] <ihtarlik> Anyone know the command line application used to manage versions of configuration files that get updated during package updates?
[07:29] <opop> ActionParsnip, can you point me to the ppa
[07:29] <ActionParsnip> opop: i use 1.4 for UL remote :)
[07:30] <opop> UL?
[07:30] <ActionParsnip> xul
[07:30] <fccf-vir1> Guest65777: in the save window .. at the bottom you can select file type
[07:30] <squidge> opop:  I get the same problem when I do, "sudo apt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com 9f1c432ae74ae63"
[07:30] <opop> squidge, what is the 9f1foobarfoo?
[07:30] <dhong> HI, MY GnoMenu's left is blank, Ican't open program form gnomenu, XP style
[07:30] <Guest65777> I will give that a try, thanks
[07:31] <opop> (sorry, been around a while, but completely ignorant when it comes to public key signing)
[07:31] <ActionParsnip> opop: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/bogdanb/ppa/ubuntu jaunty main
[07:31] <opop> ActionParsnip, yar, that's the one.
[07:31] <ActionParsnip> opop: then sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install amarok14
[07:32] <squidge> opop:  I am just following the pattern with others.  Basically, you start here:  https://launchpad.net/~bogdanb/+archive/ppa
[07:32] <opop> ActionParsnip, i've added the repo, can't seem to find it in synaptic
[07:32] <fccf-vir1> opop: refresh
[07:32] <opop> fccf-vir1, tried, but doesn't like it cuz the key
[07:32] <ActionParsnip> opop: did you run: sudo apt-get update
[07:33] <opop> ActionParsnip, yes, of course.
[07:33] <fccf-vir1> opop: doesn't need the key -- you will still get warnings but it will let you install
[07:33] <ActionParsnip> opop: try: apt-cache search amarok
[07:33] <ForgeAus> how do I get one package from an old Ubuntu (gutsy) - I'm using Intrepid... it doesn't have debootstrap
[07:33] <ActionParsnip> opop: if you give the key error I can give you the command to sort it
[07:33] <opop> same ones as before.
[07:33] <squidge> opop:  then you click the <link> in "This repository is signed with  <link> OpenPGP key", then you click through to obtain the page with a key signature at the top reading "Public Key Server -- Get ``0xb9f1c432ae74ae63 ''  That's where I got the number from.
[07:33] <opop> k
[07:34] <ForgeAus> oops rpmstrap I meant
[07:34] <ForgeAus> I'm trying to make a xen guest for an rpm distro (prolly mandriva or fedora)
[07:34] <squidge> opop:  the key error is just a failure to authenticate the repository.  You can ignore it if you want.
[07:34] <opop> squidge, i'm not getting anything from the repo, though, also ActionParsnip
[07:35] <opop> Fetched 308B in 1s (219B/s)
[07:35] <opop> Reading package lists... Done
[07:35] <opop> W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net jaunty Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY B9F1C432AE74AE63
[07:35] <FloodBot2> opop: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:35] <opop> FloodBotfoo:  yeah, thought it was one line, sue me
[07:35] <ActionParsnip> opop: did you add the line I gave to the bottom of: /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:36] <ForgeAus> hehe three lines isn't exactly a flood
[07:36] <opop> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/bogdanb/ppa/ubuntu jaunty main #Amarok 1.4 PPA
[07:36] <ActionParsnip> opop: gpg --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv AE74AE63; gpg --export --armor AE74AE63 | sudo apt-key add -
[07:37] <ActionParsnip> opop: same with ANY error like that, just use the last 8 characters in the code you get
[07:37] <texasjack> How can I "clean" (remove+purge) a linux-rt kernel, and install again the _latest_ linux-generic?
[07:37] <opop> ActionParsnip, you are rockin, my assistor
[07:37] <ActionParsnip> opop: easy stuff, kid
[07:38] <ActionParsnip> opop: i have it in a script :)
[07:38] <opop> i'll tell my buddies in #gentoo this bunnyfoofoo stuff ain't so bad.
[07:38] <opop> lyle
[07:38] <cattellar> Any idea why my proxy settings won't succesfuly change to direct connection?
[07:38] <squeak> Question I had is I rolled back too gnome-stracciatella-session...works good problem I have is libnotify doesn't work so like pidgin or any of the programs that popup with libnotify don't come up now with it...anyways too fix that?
[07:38] <opop> Alas, poor Yorick.  There is still no amarok14
[07:39] <aleix> hi, i've disabled gdm and i'd like to configure ubuntu to start automatically (without login) an application... where can I do this?
[07:39] <ActionParsnip> opop: can you pastebin me your /etc/apt/sources.list file please
[07:39] <ActionParsnip> !paste
[07:39] <opop> ActionParsnip, yar
[07:39] <fccf-vir1> texasjack: if you use synaptic right clicking on a package will allow you to remove it... then install the one you want ... then edit /boot/grub/menu.lst to make sure the rt kernel isn't on the list
[07:39] <cheaba> is there another cannal more game friendly and music help
[07:39] <squidge> opop, can you download the .debs directly from here with your browser?:  https://launchpad.net/~bogdanb/+archive/ppa
[07:40] <cheaba> channal
[07:40] <texasjack> fccf-vir1, thank you.  Really.  I'm desperate here...  Sorry for the inconvenience...
[07:41] <squidge> Q:  I have a new Asus G71G with an Atheros 928x bgn wireless card.  Driver loads fine, bluetooth works (it's integrated), but wireless never sees any networks.  Can anyone help please?
[07:41] <fccf-vir1> texasjack: skype? I can provide support there too
[07:41] <squeak> Q: Question I had is I rolled back too gnome-stracciatella-session...works good problem I have is libnotify doesn't work so like pidgin or any of the programs that popup with libnotify don't come up now with it...anyways too fix that?
[07:41] <dsdeiz> how do you completely remove a packages including its config files?
[07:41] <squeak> dsdeiz: sudo apt-get remove --purge package
[07:42] <squidge> dsdeiz:  apt-get remove --purge
[07:42] <texasjack> fccf-vir1, I don't use Skype -- Richard M. Stallman recommendations...
[07:42] <dsdeiz> hmm, seems like it isn't working to me, i'll go try again
[07:42] <ActionParsnip> dsdeiz: what squeak said, then: sudo apt-get --purge autoremove
[07:42] <dsdeiz> that removes the dependencies then right?
[07:42] <opop> ActionParsnip, http://paste.ubuntu.com/193250/
[07:43] <ActionParsnip> dsdeiz: yes, and the configs of the deps too
[07:43] <dsdeiz> hmm, isn't richard stallman the emacs guy?
[07:43] <squidge> opop, can you download the .debs directly from here with your browser?:  https://launchpad.net/~bogdanb/+archive/ppa
[07:43] <opop> squidge, saw that, thank you.  Yes, I believe I can.
[07:43] <ActionParsnip> opop: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:44] <dsdeiz> oh btw how can i install a package if i don't have internet access?
[07:44] <opop> but they're hardy
[07:44] <ActionParsnip> opop: go to the end of the bogdanb line and press enter
[07:44] <opop> ActionParsnip, check
[07:44] <opop> ActionParsnip, srsly, just needs a <cr>?
[07:44] <cheaba> true
[07:44] <ActionParsnip> opop: the last line in your pastebin doesnt have a line number which may indicate an issue
[07:44] <ActionParsnip> opop: as far as i can tell, yes
[07:44] <fccf-vir1> dsdeiz: you can download it on a different server - making sure you have all dependencies - and install the debs locally
[07:45] <opop> ActionParsnip, nah, i have an extra line
[07:45] <dsdeiz> fccf-vir1: what about a cd?
[07:45] <squidge> Anyone else here have an Atheros 928x bgn wireless card?  Mine won't see any networks.
[07:45] <fccf-vir1> dsdeiz if the packages are on a cd - then yes you can install them - just make sure you have the required virsions
[07:45] <ActionParsnip> opop: ok well the repo is in there
[07:46] <opop> ActionParsnip, to be fair, i'm rollin it up.
[07:46] <ActionParsnip> opop: ?
[07:46] <dsdeiz> any guides how i might put the packages on a cd?
[07:46] <texasjack> dsdeiz, yeah. ;) But Emacs for me is just a Godzilla-editor...  Or I'm too stupid...  What can I do?
[07:46] <dsdeiz> any guides online that is
[07:46] <opop> ActionParsnip, giving it another shot.  my guess is he pulled it due to the dep issues you stated
[07:46] <fccf-vir1> download from packages.ubuntu.com and burn like any other file
[07:46] <opop> ActionParsnip, hardy's in there, but nut jaunty or intrepid.
[07:46] <cheaba> so the people that did the text file thought we all had another conection
[07:46] <songer> hello
[07:47] <ActionParsnip> opop: gotcha
[07:47] <Mekkis> how much CPU/RAM should an instance of sshd use?
[07:47] <songer> does any body has used kino?
[07:47] <ActionParsnip> opop: if you run 32bit ubuntu someone kept the old debs and tarred them up somewhere
[07:47] <ActionParsnip> !anyone | songer
[07:47] <randabis1> damn
[07:47] <dsdeiz> ahh, thanks fccf-vir1
[07:48] <opop> ActionParsnip, nah.  i'd rawther compile from source and just static-link the libs
[07:48] <randabis1> need randabis to log itself out
[07:48] <opop> ActionParsnip, if i can, that is.
[07:48] <ActionParsnip> opop: compiling isnt as hard as people think
[07:48] <opop> ActionParsnip, seems not so worth it right now.  time for bed.
[07:48] <dsdeiz> fccf-vir1: what about if i need to upgrade?
[07:48] <opop> ActionParsnip, i know, i'm a 3-yr gentoo user
[07:48] <ActionParsnip> opop: yeah i'm waiting patiently myself
[07:49] <opop> ActionParsnip, thanks again for your help, also squidge
[07:49] <ActionParsnip> opop: my fileserver is gentoo based
[07:49] <cheaba> ap whats the first thing to learn with compiling
[07:49] <opop> ActionParsnip, requires more patience and time than i have.
[07:49] <opop> cheaba, ./configure
[07:49] <songer> how to cature in kino?
[07:49] <fccf-vir1> dsdeiz: good question .. I'll pass that one off though .. I don't want to tell you the wrong thing
[07:49] <opop> night all.
[07:50] <fccf-vir1> songer: from camcorder ... ie firewire?
[07:50] <ActionParsnip> cheaba: you learn to get the dev dependancys and reading README files
[07:50] <cheaba> i,m starting
[07:50] <dsdeiz> fccf-vir1: oh okay.. what's your suggestion though?
[07:50] <cheaba> good read me,s
[07:50] <ActionParsnip> cheaba: although you can compile, ubuntu isnt really aimed at folks who compile their own apps
[07:51] <cheaba> going towards more gui
[07:51] <songer> i Want to make a video of pictures
[07:51] <bc> Mekkis: that's pretty much like asking how many clouds are in the sky on a typical day? :) it can vary a little or a lot.
[07:51] <ForgeAus> how do I get install rpmstrap for Ubuntu? (gutsy apparently had it) - trying to create a xen guest for an rpm distro using ubuntu as a host
[07:51] <cheaba> deb
[07:51] <Mekkis> bc, so using 160MB of RAM, and 30% of a 2.4Ghz Q6600 is not unreasonable?
[07:51] <ForgeAus> (currently using intrepid)
[07:52] <dsdeiz> one last thing how to install rpm files?
[07:52] <cheaba> i heard wine is used alot
[07:52] <cheaba> ap
[07:52] <ValentineX> hello, what is this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/380082      why sudo: ddcprobe: command not found
[07:52] <ActionParsnip> dsdeiz: you dont, try finding a deb
[07:52] <bc> Mekkis: on a typical system it should be fairly low. are you scping or something?
[07:52] <ActionParsnip> dsdeiz: you can use alien but it is very very very not advised
[07:52] <dsdeiz> i've heard about alien
[07:53] <fccf-vir1> dsdeiz: you might want to read about aptoncd
[07:53] <dsdeiz> oh i see
[07:53] <ActionParsnip> !alien > dsdeiz
[07:53] <dsdeiz> ok got it thanks
[07:53] <bc> Mekkis: do you have 'compression' on?
[07:53] <Mekkis> bc, I'm using it as a SOCKS proxy, and various other tunnels or email
[07:53] <Mekkis> with compression on
[07:53] <ForgeAus> dsdeiz theres a few ways I don't recommend using .rpm in ubuntu but you can convert it to a .deb using the tool called alien which I also don't recommend
[07:53] <bc> Mekkis: afaik, compress adds overhead
[07:53] <ForgeAus> another better option is to install a virtual machine guest that is rpm-based
[07:53] <dsdeiz> fccf-vir1: ok thanks.. i'll go google it
[07:53] <bc> Mekkis: sorry, 'compression'
[07:53] <ForgeAus> (like what I'm trying to do)
[07:54] <cheaba> what alien
[07:54] <ForgeAus> cheabo its a program called alien
[07:54] <ForgeAus> it converts packages between formats such as .rpm .deb .tgz, etc..
[07:54] <ValentineX> ActionParsnip: why this command does not work sudo: ddcprobe: command not found
[07:54] <cheaba> yeah
[07:55] <cheaba> thats what i mean
[07:55] <ValentineX> oh I would also like alien
[07:55] <ForgeAus> its not something I recommend doing
[07:55] <MaWaLe> are there a channel where members of différent LOCOs can share experiences or ask for advices?
[07:55] <cheaba> what does it do
[07:55] <ActionParsnip> ValentineX: try typing ddc then press tab
[07:55] <ForgeAus> I told you what it does check the man page for more info
[07:56] <ActionParsnip> cheaba: converts rpm to deb as well as it can (badly)
[07:56] <cheaba> ty
[07:56] <Randabis1> damn
[07:56] <MaWaLe> are there a channel where members of different LOCOs can share experiences or ask for advices?
[07:56] <ForgeAus> AP I'm trying to take a different option and install rpm as native to an rpm guest in xen ...
[07:56] <Randabis1> randabis is still not logged out
[07:56] <Randabis1> t'is a ghost
[07:57] <ForgeAus> (ie virtual machine... I think Linux needs a colinux of its own!
[07:57] <cheaba> its ok to talk about wine
[07:57] <ActionParsnip> ForgeAus: try tab completing my name instead of AP ;)
[07:57] <cheaba> ?
[07:57] <ForgeAus> yes its ok to talk about wine
[07:57] <kabdotinfo> what about whiskey?
[07:57] <ActionParsnip> ForgeAus: its not something I've ever done, sorry
[07:57] <madhu> Any help on Grub Loader ?
[07:57] <ttyType> hi all
[07:57] <cheaba> i never used it
[07:57] <ForgeAus> ap why? when theres 3 or more act* nicks in the list even tab completion isn't always easy...
[07:57] <ActionParsnip> !grub
[07:57] <ValentineX> kabdotinfo: hahaha
[07:58] <ActionParsnip> ForgeAus: see how your name highlights when i address you, that because I'm using your full name. Its not an accident
[07:58] <madhu> I am unable to login to my PC after the Installation of Ubuntu
[07:58] <ttyType> what is one to do, when one reformats, and reinstalls an OS, without backing up their files properly into the gzip archive one thought was fine??
[07:58] <ForgeAus> (or have ytyou have your client set to highlight your nick  IC
[07:58]  * ttyType doubts ext4 is very lenient with this kind of stufff
[07:59] <ttyType> *leniant
[07:59] <kabdotinfo> using whiskey with some windows app within linux won't make the problem go away
[07:59] <bc> kabdotinfo: at least not in the long run :P
[07:59] <madhu> even i can see the Ubuntu is installed ,,,and i can mount  and i edited the menu.lst but it seems it is not working
[08:00] <cheaba> will wine work on say fruity loops
[08:00] <cheaba> techno making program
[08:00] <kabdotinfo> you mean like wine with a hint of blueberry and strawberry?
[08:01] <kabdotinfo> (ok, ill shush up :) )
[08:01] <fccf-vir1> kabdotinfo: prolly be wise
[08:01] <cheaba> i need a blue berry
[08:02] <konza> i am not gettng good sound in linu
[08:02] <konza> i am not gettng good sound in ubuntu
[08:03] <ActionParsnip> cheaba: if you want fruity loops, try lmms
[08:03] <miguel> hello
[08:03] <ForgeAus> lmms ... interesting I might try it myself!
[08:03] <fccf-vir1> good evening miguel
[08:03] <cheaba> ap ty
[08:03] <miguel> HELP PLEASE
[08:03] <Guest13515> IM A NOOB
[08:03] <fccf-vir1> !caps
[08:04] <Guest13515> im sorry
[08:04] <kabdotinfo> But we might need glasses
[08:04] <Guest13515> can someone help me please im new to this
[08:04] <fccf-vir1> noobs are welcome here just follow the guidelines
[08:04] <Guest13515> ok
[08:04] <fccf-vir1> !guidelines > Guest13515
[08:04] <Guest13515> so i just need some help with dual boot
[08:04] <Guest13515> how???
[08:05] <fccf-vir1> Guest13515:  make sure you install windows first ... then install ubuntu
[08:05] <Guest13515> yes i did that
[08:05] <Guest13515> but grub loads first and ask me what i want
[08:05] <Dual> how are the s3 and ati mach drivers in 9.04?
[08:05] <ForgeAus> well you could always make a grub image and put it in ntldr
[08:06] <ForgeAus> (as in the bootstrap of grub)
[08:06] <Guest13515> what i need is for it to go straight to windows since other people use my computer
[08:06] <Dual> as bad  as the regression fdrom 8.04 to 8.10?
[08:06] <Guest13515> heloo
[08:06] <fccf-vir1> Guest13515: you will need to modify /boot/grub/menu.lst - would you like me to walk you through that
[08:06] <Guest13515> hello*
[08:07] <indus> hello
[08:07] <Guest13515> sure
[08:07] <Guest13515> so it is possible
[08:07] <fccf-vir1> Guest13515: yes, and remarkably easy
[08:07] <fccf-vir1> Guest13515: are you in your installed ubuntu system
[08:08] <Guest13515> ok so i just want it to go straight to windows but still be able to load ubuntu when I want it since my siblings dont like it
[08:08] <Guest13515> thanks so much
[08:08] <ActionParsnip> Guest1351just set the default in grub to be ms widows
[08:08] <Guest13515> yes i am
[08:08] <Guest13515> how
[08:08] <fccf-vir1> miguel: open a terminal
[08:09] <Guest13515> ok thanks
[08:09] <Guest13515> and then
[08:09] <fccf-vir1> miguel type sudo gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:09] <fccf-vir1> sorry no sudo
[08:09] <fccf-vir1> gksudo
[08:10] <Guest13515> ok ok
[08:10] <konza> am not getting enough sound in ubuntu....... pls help
[08:10] <fccf-vir1> !details | konza
[08:10] <Guest13515> ok now
[08:10] <jontec> Is the inability to set encryption key values via `sudo iwconfig <device> key <key>` indicative of a driver problem? I can see networks, but I cannot send my credentials, it would seem. Using proprietary drivers recommended by Jaunty.
[08:11] <fccf-vir1> miguel: do you see the windows section of your grub
[08:11] <fccf-vir1> miguel: should be 5 or 6 lines
[08:11] <Guest13515> i see a window saying menu.lst (/boot.....
[08:11] <fccf-vir1> and is there text in the window?
[08:12] <Guest13515> yes sir
[08:12] <klem> hi !
[08:12] <fccf-vir1> miguel: good ... now look through it and look for the section that talks about windows ... should be toward the bottom
[08:12] <jontec> Is the inability to set encryption key values via `sudo iwconfig <device> key <key>` indicative of a driver problem? I can see networks, but I cannot send my credentials, it would seem. Using proprietary drivers recommended by Jaunty.
[08:12] <konza> i am using ubuntu 8.10.. i was getting good sound befor.. but i happend to reinstall it yesterday.. after that i am not getting enough sound... is ther any problem with the sound sercer
[08:13] <jontec> (hadn't identified...hope I didn't double-post)
[08:13] <konza> konaq_tea
[08:13] <Guest13515> ok im kinda new its my first day with linux so ummm where is that section
[08:13] <Guest13515> i see a windows vista loader thing
[08:14] <fccf-vir1> miguel: yes, you will need to move that whole section to before the first ubuntu section
[08:14] <Guest13515> ok please be specific because i need to know what section exactly and to where
[08:15] <v3s4> quick question: I want my /dev/sda1 to be mount at /boot and my /dev/sda2 to be mounted at / . Which of those partition must be marked as bootable?
[08:15] <squidge> Anyone here had success getting an Atheros 928X wireless card to work under Jaunty?
[08:15] <FeasibilityStudy> v3s4 the /boot obviously
[08:15] <fccf-vir1> miguel: go down until you see # #end default options##
[08:15] <dsdeiz> i think it's at the very bottom which has a comment like 'This entry automatically....'
[08:16] <Guest13515> oh im remebering this stuff so the ### dont matter and everything else does
[08:16] <Guest13515> ### END DEBIAN AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST???
[08:16] <v3s4> FeasibilityStudy, obviously? grub will be on /dev/sda's MBR. Why should it matter?
[08:17] <fccf-vir1> miguel: yes you are getting it .. now you will need to put the windows lines before the first ubuntu line that doesn't have ###
[08:17] <FeasibilityStudy> v3s4 the MBR has nothing to do with where you mount partitions
[08:17] <Guest13515> so where do i start (sorry for the noobyness)
[08:17] <fccf-vir1> miguel no worries ... ok there are 5 or 6 lines for windows right
[08:18] <Guest13515> yess starting on tittle
[08:18] <Guest13515> tittle windows vista loader
[08:18] <FeasibilityStudy> vs34 the /dev/sda1 must be bootable since thats where the boot partition is.
[08:18] <Guest13515> ok so i cut that
[08:19] <randabis> how do you get rythmnbox to resync a folder that have already been imported so it will automatically update the library if new music has been downloaded to the imported folder?
[08:19] <fccf-vir1> right ... all of those lines are for windows ... if you cut them from the bottom and place them above the first title ubuntu
[08:19] <v3s4> FeasibilityStudy, but GRUB does. BIOS reads and load MBR, where GRUB lives. Grub kicks in and loads whatever stated in menu.cfg. So why should the partition "boot" flag matter?
[08:19] <FeasibilityStudy> v3s4 what exactlty is your question?
[08:19] <Guest13515> right under ## ## End default Options ##
[08:20] <Guest13515> ??
[08:20] <fccf-vir1> miguel yes
[08:20] <fccf-vir1> put a blank line before and after
[08:21] <v3s4> FeasibilityStudy, why should the partition mounted as /boot be flagged as "boot"  and not the partition mounted at / considering that GRUB is installed properly
[08:21] <v3s4> ?
[08:21] <fccf-vir1> miguel: you got it?
[08:21] <Guest13515> ok it looks like this
[08:21] <FeasibilityStudy> v3s4 because the /boot partition is where the kernel image is stored..Without it, you cant boot
[08:21] <fccf-vir1> stop don't paste here
[08:21] <Guest13515> oh why
[08:21] <fccf-vir1> use pastebin
[08:21] <fccf-vir1> !paste
[08:21] <iw> bonjour, je cherche le nom d'une gui pour gerer un serveur www et mysql, pour creer automatiquement les users, droit, quota,...
[08:22] <fccf-vir1> !fr
[08:22] <v3s4> FeasibilityStudy, unless a bootloader exists, right?
[08:22] <iw> oops sorry
[08:22] <Guest13515> je parle francaise just un peu
[08:22] <Guest13515> im sorry for that man
[08:22] <v3s4> FeasibilityStudy, then the bootloader knows what to boot from where with total disregard of partition flags....
[08:22] <hardhatpat> i tried to install php on my lighttpd server and i get a 403 when i try and open a php file ... where should i start troubleshooting?
[08:23] <v3s4> FeasibilityStudy, though I could be wrong on top of a little bit obnoxious though
[08:23] <FeasibilityStudy> Guest13515 dont move around any text.  Here is all you need to do.  Put this line somewhere in your file:  default saved
[08:23] <kholerabbi> hey will installing over an existing ubuntu partition preserve my home directory??
[08:23] <FeasibilityStudy> vs34 the bootloader looks for the kernel image
[08:23] <Guest13515> fccf-virl are you there
[08:23] <fccf-vir1> FeasibilityStudy: there is no right or wrong way of doing things ... now lets not confuse the guy
[08:23] <barbarella> iw:phpmyadmin
[08:24] <fccf-vir1> yes im here
[08:24] <v3s4> FeasibilityStudy, then the partition "boot" flash should not matter.
[08:24] <Guest13515> thanks
[08:24] <v3s4> FeasibilityStudy, if that is the case then the partition "boot" flash should not matter.
[08:24] <v3s4> FeasibilityStudy, if that is the case then the partition "boot" flag should not matter.
[08:24] <Guest13515> ok so what next
[08:24] <fccf-vir1> would you use the pastebin - so I can check your work to make sure it will work
[08:25] <Guest13515> ok sorry .. how do i do that again
[08:25] <FeasibilityStudy> v3s4 Ubuntu should take care of boot flags and all of that for you.
[08:25] <fccf-vir1> !paste
[08:25] <Guest13515> !paste
[08:25] <fccf-vir1> copy all of the file to paste.ubuntu.com and give me the url that it gives you
[08:26] <barbarella> kholerabbi:yes, give it a mount point /home and keep data
[08:26] <Guest13515> ok
[08:26] <FeasibilityStudy> v3s4 just mount the /boot partition on the drive you want and the / to the other.  But I am not sure why in the world you want a whole drive dedicated to the tiny /boot partition
[08:26] <indus> FeasibilityStudy: probably a redhat hangover :)
[08:27] <FeasibilityStudy> indus ?
[08:27] <barbarella> indus: that must be it
[08:27] <indus> FeasibilityStudy: ya /boot on a separate part......... u learn that in redhat install
[08:27] <FeasibilityStudy> indus no he is wanting to put /boot on a separate DRIVE!
[08:27] <kholerabbi> barbarella: I have an existing partition I want to reinstall over the top and preserve the home directory.. Ican
[08:28] <indus> barbarella: FeasibilityStudy:but i think if a particular drive fails,he can still boot into it which is pretty cool
[08:28] <FeasibilityStudy> indus and I always put /boot on a separate partition.  Goes back to my Gentoo days. --shrug--
[08:28] <v3s4> FeasibilityStudy, I want my /dev/sda1 to be mount at /boot and my /dev/sda2 to be mounted at / .  Same disk, Ok, there is also an unused /dev/sda3 but that's being reserver for 9.10
[08:28] <Guest13515> ok i got this
[08:28] <Guest13515> http://paste.ubuntu.com/193273/
[08:28] <FeasibilityStudy> v3s4 ok, I read it wrong then..
[08:28] <daurnimator__> hey all
[08:28] <indus> i might be mighty wrong though :)
[08:29] <daurnimator__> on my desktop, the mouse isn't working properly, and alt+tab gets borked
[08:29] <kholerabbi> barbarella: ah sorry: the home directory is not a seperate partition
[08:29] <FeasibilityStudy> indus no /boot on a separate partition is a good idea
[08:29] <fccf-vir1> miguel .. fix line 139
[08:30] <indus> FeasibilityStudy: cos u atleast can boot into  a system correct?
[08:30] <FeasibilityStudy> indus yeah and I just like having a modular system.  I always do at least /boot, swap, /, /home
[08:30] <daurnimator__> the mouse still moves arouned
[08:30] <daurnimator__> but left clicks don't happen at the place the mouse is pointing
[08:30] <carbonish> hi guys...how would i go about copying all files in one folder to another
[08:30] <barbarella> kholerabbi:then you have to copy it first
[08:30] <Guest13515> ok whats wrong with it
[08:30] <ziroday> carbonish: through?
[08:31] <FeasibilityStudy> I also put all my music/videos/files on a separate partition to itself so I can install new distros without destroying it
[08:31] <andruk> I'm trying to build the gspca driver for the ps3eye, but I keep getting the error "File not found: /lib/modules/2.6.30-6-generic/build/.config at ./scripts/make_kconfig.pl line 32, <IN> line 4.  (\n) make[1]: *** No rule to make target `.myconfig', needed by `config-compat.h'.  Stop."  this is on ubuntu jaunty/karmic, and it looks like the /lib/modules/2.6.30-6-generic/build directory doesnt...
[08:31] <andruk> ...exist, although the /lib/modules/2.6.30-6-generic directory does exist.  any help?
[08:31] <indus> FeasibilityStudy: i have only used ubuntu so i do only / and /home
[08:31] <indus> ubuntu spoiled me :)
[08:31] <fccf-vir1> miguel: take a good look in firefox and you tell me
[08:31] <carbonish> /home/public_html/blah/trunk/allfilesintrunk /home/blah/[wantthemhere]
[08:31] <kholerabbi> barbarella: :/ okay that would take like 4 hours. *sigh* thanks for you help anyway
[08:31] <Guest13515> the tu is under
[08:31] <ziroday> carbonish: cp /original/path /new/path
[08:31] <Guest13515> but i think thats how it was
[08:31] <fccf-vir1> miguel .. that all needs to be on one line
[08:31] <carbonish> basically all the files from inside trunk
[08:32] <carbonish> trying to copy them over and then delete the trunk its self
[08:32] <ziroday> andruk: (stupid question) you have the kernel headers right?
[08:32] <Guest13515> fixed it says tittle   ubuntu 9.....kernel...generic
[08:32] <carbonish> is there some symbol i use to say 'all folders/files inside this folder'
[08:32] <andruk> ziroday: what is the package i have to install to get those?
[08:32] <ziroday> carbonish: cp /home/public_html/blah/trunk/* /home/blah/
[08:33] <fccf-vir1> miguel save the file and reboot - you will be in windows=-O
[08:33] <Guest13515> ok so now will it go directly to vista
[08:33] <carbonish> thanks =P
[08:33] <fccf-vir1> yep
[08:33] <scoopex> hi, is there a package source which provides recent kernel packages....launchpad...or something like this....
[08:33] <ziroday> andruk: linux-headers-generic?
[08:33] <FeasibilityStudy> rm -rf /Vista
[08:33] <heru> Hello...
[08:33] <fccf-vir1> good eve heru
[08:33] <refic> morning
[08:33] <Guest13515> what is that windows=-o
[08:33] <FeasibilityStudy> scoopex kernel.org
[08:34] <ziroday> carbonish: how does that work?
[08:34] <Guest13515> wow that was simple but took long because its my first time
[08:34] <fccf-vir1> miguel: just me making faces :-D
[08:34] <Geoffrey2> is there any easy test to determine whether your computer will support the 64 bit version of ubuntu?
[08:34] <Guest13515> hahahaha
[08:34] <FeasibilityStudy> Geoffrey whats your processor?
[08:34] <andruk> ziroday: that was prolly it.  had linux-headers installed, but not linux-headers-2.6.30-6-generic installed.  thanks.
[08:34] <Guest13515> so its automatically going to windows now???
[08:34] <scoopex> FeasibilityStudy: ubuntu packages :-) ?
[08:34] <Geoffrey2> AMD Sempron 3000+
[08:34] <heru> good evening too fccf-virl... nice to see ya...
[08:34] <fccf-vir1> miguel: did you save the file? then yes
[08:34] <ziroday> andruk: good luck
[08:34] <Guest13515> And what when i want to load ubuntu?
[08:35] <scoopex> FeasibilityStudy: sure, i can build my own...
[08:35] <fccf-vir1> miguel : press ESC when grub is loading and go to the second line
[08:35] <andruk> yeo, twas it
[08:35] <andruk> ziroday: yep, twas it
[08:35] <ziroday> andruk: awesome!
[08:35] <Guest13515> ok well thanks im gona reboot now
[08:35] <Guest13515> thankyou so much man
[08:35] <fccf-vir1> miguel: have a great time ... later
[08:36] <Guest13515> later
[08:36] <FeasibilityStudy> Geoffrey2 I think you will have to use 32 bit.
[08:36] <Guest13515> by the wy where are you because its real late where i am
[08:36] <fccf-vir1> miguel iam in california it is 0030 here
[08:36] <alex87> hey guys, is there a simple way to boot an iso off a USB disc?
[08:36] <fccf-vir1> !usb
[08:37] <Guest13515> im in texas its like 2:30 goodnite
[08:37] <FeasibilityStudy> Geoffrey2 but I need to know the socket to be sure
[08:37] <alex87> thanks fccf-vir1
[08:37] <refic> Geoffrey2: I think it's 32-bit
[08:37] <fccf-vir1> alex87: np
[08:37] <FeasibilityStudy> Semprons come in both 32 and 64, which is why I need socket
[08:37] <refic> yeah, socket would tell it
[08:37] <Padhu> How can i copy 1000 records from oracle 10g to oracle 8i. Is it possible?
[08:37] <lianimator> glchess Failed to load GGZ config.. how to fix this?
[08:37]  * bc waves, goodnight and a book
[08:38] <Spike1506> goodday, im using evolution mail but it doesnt notify me when a new mail arrices.
[08:38] <Spike1506> arrives*
[08:38] <Spike1506> altough its turned on in preferences.
[08:38] <Geoffrey2> AM2
[08:39] <fccf-vir1> Padhu: oracle not spoken here
[08:39] <indus> anybody know about the ata soft reset failed device not ready error in 9.04
[08:39] <indus> i dont have dvd rom read by the kernel
[08:39] <heru> Spike1506: I that is bug, I got it too...
[08:40] <FeasibilityStudy> Geoffrey2 yes it can do 64 bit
[08:40]  * indus is googling for this now
[08:40] <fccf-vir1> !oracle
[08:40] <heru> Spike1506: I think that is bug, I got it too...
[08:40] <fccf-vir1> also #oracle
[08:40] <refic> Geoffrey2, FeasibilityStudy; yes, 64-bit works then :)
[08:41] <Spike1506> heru, then i will check the bug section
[08:41] <Spike1506> !bug
[08:41] <Http> argh
[08:41] <nixiepixel> Hello, do you guys have any suggestions for a good screen capture tool other than gtk-recordmydesktop and ffmpeg?
[08:41] <Http> i KNEW this nick wasnt used for a reason
[08:41] <barbarella> Padhu:no
[08:41] <Padhu> fccf-vir1: I know, but experts may be available everywhere :-)
[08:41] <heru> Spike1506: Just hope that this bug has been reported before...
[08:41] <ziroday> !screencasts | nixiepixel
[08:41] <daurnimator__> anyone able to help with my mouse?
[08:42] <nixiepixel> ziroday - thank you!
[08:42] <ziroday> nixiepixel: have fun :)
[08:42] <heru> daurnimator__: what happen?
[08:43] <daurnimator__> heru, the mouse still moves around
[08:43] <Sn0wman> anyone else have the bug of the wireless not working after coming out of suspension?
[08:43] <daurnimator__> but when clicking outside what I guessed is currently focused, nothing happens
[08:43] <daurnimator__> it only happens sometimes, but after it happens, it stays like that until I restart X
[08:43] <Spike1506> whats the best way to fill in a bug report for evolution mail and the new mail notifier not working?
[08:43] <ziroday> nixiepixel: http://emmajane.net/node/856 might also have a couple of tips
[08:44] <ShockF> anybody know how i can mount my vista partition so i can use it on ubuntu
[08:44] <Spike1506> daurnimator__, i do have that issue too (sometimes)
[08:44] <Spike1506> ShockF, ntfs3g
[08:44] <Spike1506> !ntfs3g | ShockF
[08:44] <ShockF> thanks
[08:44] <daurnimator__> Spike1506, and the fix?
[08:44] <Spike1506> daurnimator__, no idea sorry
[08:45] <ziroday> Sn0wman: after resuming from suspend try doing sudo rmmod <modulename> and then sudo modprobe <modulename>, does that fix it?
[08:45] <heru> daurnimator__: Oh... ow, that some kind of mechanical malfunctions if that is track ball, but it could be optical sensor or IRED beamer malfunction if that is optical mouse...
[08:45] <daurnimator__> heru, its a software issue
[08:46] <daurnimator__> heru, only way to fix I've come up with is to restart x
[08:46] <nixiepixel> One more question, does anyone know what can cause this problem when recording Compiz 3D effects?  http://nixiepixel.com/misc/ffmpegtest.jpg
[08:46] <kaushal> is there a way to reload inetd on ubuntu server 8.04.2 ?
[08:46] <heru> daurnimator__: I hope that is not like that because mouse controlled by X and HAL
[08:46] <un|matrix> i've deleted my /etc/pulse folder... how do i get the defaults back?
[08:46] <daurnimator__> the prblem is something to do with clicks not going to the correct "thing" when, maybe xev? or a window manager thing?
[08:47] <ziroday> nixiepixel: I do remember an issue a while back, #compiz will probably know more
[08:47] <daurnimator__> but I place it mostly on X
[08:47] <FeasibilityStudy> un|matrix why did you do that?
[08:47] <daurnimator__> it seems SIMILAR to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/41301
[08:47] <fccf-vir1> un|matrix: uh uninstall/reinstall pulse
[08:47] <ziroday> kaushal: sudo /etc/init.d/inetd restart?
[08:47] <un|matrix> FeasibilityStudy: because pulseaudio was crashing
[08:47] <kaushal> ziroday: it isnt there under init.d
[08:47] <FeasibilityStudy> un|matrix you can get rid of Pulseaudio.  I always uninstall it first thing
[08:47] <kraut> moin
[08:47] <kaushal> do i need to apt-get package ?
[08:48] <FeasibilityStudy> <----Detests Pulseaudio
[08:48] <un|matrix> FeasibilityStudy: well it's got its pros too
[08:48] <heru> daurnimator__: many cases related X often causes mouse totally not responding...
[08:48] <FeasibilityStudy> but yeah, just remove it and reinstall it.
[08:48] <un|matrix> fccf-virl: i can't remove pulseaudio because it wants to remove gnome-desktop along with it
[08:48] <FeasibilityStudy> gnome-desktop can be removed
[08:48] <ziroday> kaushal: how can you restart a service if you haven't installed it?
[08:49] <heru> correct...
[08:49] <un|matrix> oh ok
[08:49] <FeasibilityStudy> gnome-desktop is a meta package, it really does nothing
[08:49] <fccf-vir1> un|matrix: FeasibilityStudy is right
[08:49] <barbarella> kaushal:there is no inetd
[08:49] <FeasibilityStudy> Only issue is that it is needed fror upgrades
[08:49] <ziroday> kaushal: what inetd service have you installed?
[08:49] <FeasibilityStudy> but if you remove PA and reinstall it, it should bring in ubuntu-desktop anyway
[08:50] <barbarella> kaushal:do you mean /usr/sbin/update-inetd
[08:50] <daurnimator__> also
[08:50] <daurnimator__> I get the error when I try and use the package manager; "Could not grab your mouse"
[08:50] <daurnimator__> 99% sure its related
[08:50] <un|matrix> fccf-virl: well, i've reinstalled it and the config files aren't back
[08:50] <fccf-vir1> hmmm
[08:50] <FeasibilityStudy> you might have to purge it
[08:51] <un|matrix> ok let's try that
[08:51] <nomin> what's with this mouse scrollover thing which stops all internet traffic?
[08:51] <heru> daurnimator__: If a program cannot grab that's likely related to HAL
[08:51] <fccf-vir1> !details |nomin
[08:51] <un|matrix> FeasibilityStudy: ahh, there we go, that did it
[08:51] <nomin> every time I scroll the mouse over the net meter, it reduces to zero
[08:51] <nomin> ubottu:
[08:52] <daurnimator__> heru, ok.... what to do?
[08:52] <fccf-vir1> nomin: ubottu is a robot that helps us out a little
[08:53] <un|matrix> FeasibilityStudy: why do you hate PA though?
[08:53] <fccf-vir1> nomin: thats strange ... but I doubt it is actually halting internet traffic .. just not displaying right
[08:53] <FeasibilityStudy> un|matrix because it takes functionality AWAY.
[08:53] <nomin> fccf-vir1: It may not be halting traffic, but it behaves like it is.
[08:53] <FeasibilityStudy> un|matrix the PA dev has said he wants to make things simpler and doesnt want users having access to ALSA mixer settings..
[08:54] <nomin> fccf-vir1: would you like to see a video presentation
[08:54] <nomin> ?
[08:54] <un|matrix> FeasibilityStudy: dunno, i kinda like to be able to play audio on multiple machines in my house at the same time
[08:54] <fccf-vir1> nomin: sure why not - I got drivers
[08:54] <FeasibilityStudy> I happen to like ny ALSA mixer so I think PA is worthless for me..Some like it, which is fine
[08:54] <FeasibilityStudy> un|matrix, yeah if you do that then you need PA..I only have one machine with one soundcard, so PA gets in my way
[08:55] <un|matrix> FeasibilityStudy: well they do need to fix it, a big problem here is that Jaunty uses v0.1.14 instead of 0.1.15 which is much better
[08:55] <iw> bye
[08:55] <Oprtz> i am using ubuntu 9.04 along with windowsXP Pro (wirless network) i can see network shared printers and i installed them for my ubuntu machine, BUT when i execute print command to network printer , the printer make some noise but DONT print .. why is that? my system is uptodate
[08:55] <heru> daurnimator__: Just try -- first, you replace with different mouse to make sure this is not related hardware malfunction, two, try to fix HAL by running dpkg --reconfigure hal (try to dpkg --help first), tree restart your system and opt the single user mode and if you see options on the screen chose the one that meant as "fix X server".
[08:55] <nomin> fccf-vir1: give me some time.  I can post it on video.
[08:56] <FeasibilityStudy> I am just disappointed in the new Amarok 2.1...It toally cluster*^%$ my tags.
[08:56] <fccf-vir1> nomin: I'll be here
[08:56] <un|matrix> Amarok 2.x sucked since beginning if u ask me
[08:56] <un|matrix> Rhythmbox totally kicks its ass
[08:56] <ziroday> !ot | FeasibilityStudy un|matrix
[08:57] <fccf-vir1> I like the iface of amarok .. I just have to write protect my tags
[08:57] <FeasibilityStudy> un|matrix yeah I loved 1.4, best music player ever on any OS
[08:57] <un|matrix> :P
[08:57] <Myrtti> please keep the offtopic elsewhere if you don't have direct support issues...
[08:57] <un|matrix> sorry
[08:57] <FeasibilityStudy> sorry
[08:58] <Oprtz> i am using ubuntu 9.04 along with windowsXP Pro (wirless network) i can see network shared printers and i installed them for my ubuntu machine, BUT when i execute print command to network printer , the printer make some noise but DONT print .. why is that? my system is uptodate
[08:58] <fccf-vir1> Oprtz: what brand/model of printer?
[08:58] <Oprtz> fccf-vir1: its Deskjet F300 series and Deskjet F2100 (all in one printer)
[08:58] <Padhu> Oprtz: In ubuntu or in XP
[08:59] <fccf-vir1> Oprtz: hold on while I check some background data
[08:59] <Oprtz> Padhu: the printers are shared with windowsXP Machine and i am using ubuntu
[08:59] <Oprtz> fccf-vir1:  okie thanks
[08:59] <Padhu> Check XP firewall setting first.
[09:00] <revilodraw> hello everyone. i had linux on a fresh hdd, then i decided to install xp on a partition. all is well. all i want to do is expand the xp partition by say, 5 gigs. how do i do this good ppl?
[09:00] <Padhu> allow port 480 or 485 ?1 I forgot the exact port
[09:00] <ShockF> hi ive just installed something and its nowhere to be found what happened
[09:00] <FeasibilityStudy> ShockF more info please
[09:00] <ziroday> revilodraw: you would need to use gparted (partition editor) one the livecd as you can't have that HD mounted when you do the operation. Note there is the possibility of dataloss
[09:01] <revilodraw> ziroday:  ok thank you. how high is the possibility of data loss?
[09:01] <ShockF> feasibility : well ive just installed pysdm using sudo apt-get install psydm yet when i look for it i cant find it
[09:01] <fccf-vir1> Oprtz: did cups autodetect?
[09:01] <hifi> uh, my compiz and gnome aren't working together right, I have binds to change desktop Alt+F1-4, if I change my desktop from 1 to 2 with that keybinding the compiz viewport changed but the workspace applet shows me still in desktop one
[09:01] <ziroday> revilodraw: low, but enough to make sure you should backup beforehand :)
[09:01] <FeasibilityStudy> ShockF what is psydm exactly
[09:02] <hifi> and if I send a window to another workspace it sends it to the gnome desktop and not compiz viewport
[09:02] <FeasibilityStudy> ShockF likely it just didnt get added to menu..Try typing into terminal: psydam
[09:02] <revilodraw> ziroday; backup completed, ill expand partition now. is there any likelihood i could damage my ubuntu partition?
[09:02] <ShockF> ok
[09:02] <Oprtz> fccf-vir1: i dont know, but i can print with the same printer (when physical attach t with ubuntu) and when i was updating ubuntu, i saw cups notifications, so i hope it is installed already
[09:02] <ziroday> revilodraw: are you taking space away from it it?
[09:03] <ShockF> it says i should have root privaleges to run this program
[09:03] <revilodraw> ziroday:  ill be taking from ubuntu and giving to xp.. a reverse robin hood lol
[09:03] <FeasibilityStudy> shockF sudo psydm
[09:03] <ziroday> hifi: have you been fiddling with settings in ccsm
[09:03] <Oprtz> fccf-vir1:  its auto detect by ubuntu
[09:03] <ziroday> revilodraw: then there is a very slim chance
[09:03] <un|matrix> ShockF: what i do in your case is usually go in Synaptic and see "Installed Files" for that particular package; but you need to have  "Show package properties.." enabled in Synaptic's props
[09:03] <hifi> ziroday: yeah
[09:03] <revilodraw> ziroday: ok, well here goes. thank you for your help :)
[09:04] <ziroday> hifi: is Viewport Switcher ticked
[09:04] <hifi> yes
[09:04] <ziroday> revilodraw: good luck!
[09:04] <ShockF> ok thanks feasi and uni
[09:04] <fccf-vir1> Oprtz: and have you tried printing a test page?
[09:04] <ziroday> hifi: is that where you've definied the keybindings to switch workspaces?
[09:04] <raylu> so, i'm a bit confused about virtualization. i have an intel processor with the vmx flag. will vmware/virtualbox use the virtualization features of my processor?
[09:04] <hifi> ziroday: looks so
[09:04] <hifi> though I think I did it in keyboard shortcut configuration
[09:05] <hifi> but the viewport bindings are in there too
[09:05] <FeasibilityStudy> raylu probably, but I have no idea how VB is compiled..It's closed source I believe
[09:05] <ziroday> hifi: right the issue is compiz works in just one of gnome workspaces's spaces, and has its own implementation of workspaces called viewports. I recommend you ask in #compiz on how you can make them play nice
[09:05] <Oprtz> fccf-vir1: yes i tried a test page  (HP laserjet 1320 test page was successful) but on Deskjet no success
[09:05] <Padhu> Oprtz: are you configured windows XP firewall? Are you installed unix print and file sharing protocol in Windows XP
[09:05] <raylu> FeasibilityStudy: Not only is VirtualBox an extremely feature rich, high performance product for enterprise customers, it is also the only professional solution that is freely available as Open Source Software under the terms of the GNU General Public License (GPL).
[09:06] <hifi> ziroday: can I revert all settings do default somehow?
[09:06] <raylu> FeasibilityStudy: something about a closed-source usb version, though
[09:06] <hifi> CCSM more importantly
[09:06] <FeasibilityStudy> raylu I stand corrected :)
[09:06] <ShockF> feasi
[09:06] <Oprtz> Padhu: i install unix print protocol and sharing file and printer is enabled
[09:06] <FeasibilityStudy> raylu you would have to scan the VB website.  I doubt most of us here are experts on kernel virtualization
[09:06] <ShockF> if i show u the error i get when trying to mount my vista partition could you tell me what to do
[09:06] <ziroday> hifi: not that I know of sorry
[09:07] <raylu> oh, hey. what do you know, their faq answers my question
[09:07] <hifi> hmm, reset do defaults in ccsm seems to work
[09:07] <Dual> lol http://ve3d.ign.com/articles/news/48143/Project-Natal-Is-Not-Racist
[09:08] <Oprtz> i just give a test print command, and the printer make some noise but no print and then  i recieve a notification, that print job is done
[09:08] <ziroday> raylu: I believe xen, openvz or qemu will give better performance if you want to virtualise OS's in a server environment
[09:08] <Padhu> Oprtz: oh. Are you installed the correct driver in ubuntu for windows printer
[09:08] <raylu> ziroday: i don't really understand xen. i see it as a kernel type when i search for linux-image
[09:08] <Oprtz> Padhu: i am 100% sure, correct drivers with correct printer name
[09:08] <fccf-vir1> !ot | Dual
[09:08] <ShockF> feasibility how do i fix this http://paste.ubuntu.com/193289/plain/
[09:08] <raylu> ziroday: i'm actually trying to run freebsd as my guest os. currently, no luck with qemu/kvm
[09:09] <ziroday> raylu: never do I, but I know all the big boys and girls use it :)
[09:09] <ziroday> s/never/neither
[09:09] <Padhu> Oprtz: Some time password encryption will block network printing. I experienced in RHEL4.
[09:09] <FeasibilityStudy> SHockF you have ntfs-3g installed?
[09:10] <Dual> ubottu I thought taking a stab at MS was on topic at 3 A.M.
[09:10] <Oprtz> Padhu:  so wat is the soulution?
[09:10] <ShockF> yes i believe so
[09:10] <ziroday> raylu: however desktop wise, open source vbox is definitely the way to go :)
[09:10] <FeasibilityStudy> ShockF what is psydm?
[09:10] <fccf-vir1> ShockF: i'd run chkdsk /f from windows - ntfs-3g can only work with "clean" partitions
[09:10] <ShockF> pysdm is a system device manager allows you to easily mount partitions etc
[09:11] <Oprtz> Padhu:  please dont mind, some guests arrived, dotn go anywhere i will be back soon
[09:11] <ShockF> how do i run chkdsk /f
[09:11] <raylu>  * Starting VirtualBox kernel module...                                                                                                                                                        [fail]
[09:11] <ShockF> using command prompt ?
[09:11] <scizzo-> Dual: no it is not...
[09:11] <fccf-vir1> ShockF: boot into windows .... open cmd prompt ... type chkdsk /f then reboot twice
[09:11] <myself> I LOVE YOU ALL
[09:11] <ShockF> kk ill brb fccf
[09:11] <FeasibilityStudy> I love myself
[09:12] <ziroday> raylu: can you pastebin lsmod please
[09:12] <fccf-vir1> myself: we love you too .... please don't shout
[09:13] <fccf> oh it is good to be me again
[09:15] <raylu> ziroday: it seems to have restarted it further along in the installation and it successfully did it the second time
[09:15] <ziroday> raylu: yay!
[09:15] <raylu> the issue now:
[09:15] <raylu> VirtualBox can't operate in VMX root mode. Please disable the KVM kernel extension, recompile your kernel and reboot (VERR_VMX_IN_VMX_ROOT_MODE).
[09:16] <hifi> ziroday: thanks for the support, got it working :)
[09:16] <hifi> just reseting the ccsm settings did the trick
[09:16] <ziroday> raylu: yeah, you need to rmmod the kvm module
[09:16] <ziroday> hifi: awesome!
[09:16] <hifi> don't know what caused it
[09:16] <ziroday> raylu: kvm_intel too
[09:16] <hifi> I remember adding workspaces in gconf one time
[09:17] <raylu> ziroday: indeed, but doesn't that mean i won't be using vmx?
[09:17] <hifi> but now it seems to work just nice
[09:18] <cypha> can someone please tell me why EVERYTHING I OPEN shows up on my 2nd monitor instead of my primary monitor??
[09:18] <barf> How do I report bugs?
[09:18] <barf> The bugs are in the alternate PS3 version
[09:18] <Myrtti> !bug | barf
[09:18] <Myrtti> barf: ps3 isn't officially supported though...
[09:18] <ziroday> barf: also #ubuntu-ps3 is not a bad place to ask
[09:19] <raylu> cypha: graphics card?
[09:20] <cypha> nvidia
[09:20] <cypha> geforce 6150 go
[09:21] <raylu> cypha: nvidia-settings, specify your primary monitor there
[09:21] <white_> so when is the new Wine going to be released, this one has no graphic interface!
[09:21] <cypha> i did
[09:21] <raylu> oh... are you using metacity, not compiz?
[09:21] <raylu> white_: why would wine have a gui?
[09:21] <raylu> white_: perhaps you're looking for winecfg
[09:21] <ziroday> white_: #winehq, and #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[09:21] <cypha> compiz
[09:22] <raylu> cypha: i'm going to blame that and tell you to mess around in those settings :P
[09:22] <cypha> i'm not sure bout "messing around"
[09:22] <white_> raylu:  will that give me the start menu?
[09:22] <cypha> cuz i tend to screw things up
[09:22] <cypha> i'm not familiar with ubuntu, or linux for that matter
[09:22] <cypha> so i'd rather mess around via instruction from u!
[09:22] <cypha> lol
[09:22] <cypha> i don't even know HOW to mess around
[09:23] <white_> raylu:  ahhhhh nevermind
[09:23] <raylu> white_: uh...? wine stands for wine is not an emulator.
[09:23] <raylu> white_: wine is not a windows emulator... there is no start menu
[09:24] <scizzo-> white_: wine was created to be used without having to install the whole system
[09:24] <scizzo-> white_: that was the whole purpose of wine
[09:24] <raylu> cypha: i'd give you instructions, but i don't use compiz
[09:24] <Myrtti> white_: if you want windows, install windows
[09:24] <cypha> oh
[09:24] <cypha> ok
[09:24] <nomin> fccf
[09:25] <ForgeAus> how to install a gutsy package into intrepid?
[09:25] <kandinski> can I use wine to access to all my installed apps in windows and also use it so when I install a windows app from ubuntu its also available in windows?
[09:25] <Padhu> How can i install age of empire in ubuntu 8.10
[09:25] <ForgeAus> Padhu through wine most likely
[09:25] <TheYeti> kandinski: yes to the first, no to the second
[09:26] <ForgeAus> check #WineHQ for more info ...
[09:26] <TheYeti> well, kinda on the second.
[09:26] <nomin> fccf-vir1 is exactly right
[09:26] <Myrtti> ForgeAus: what do you want to install?
[09:26] <iceroot> kandinski: you can use your appds installed in windows, if you have mounted the windows-drive, its often working but not always
[09:26] <white_> Myrtti:  I want windows ubuntu and mac os, i want to be able to switch between the operating systems quickly and with ease, why isnt this possible
[09:26] <ForgeAus> Myrtti its a package called rpmstrap that no longer exists in Intrepid afaik... it did in gutsy...
[09:26] <fccf> nomin: I am here
[09:26] <barf>  ubuntu-bug is on the command line? or in this chat?
[09:26] <Padhu> ForgeAus: I installed in wine .But not working. is it required to install windows?
[09:26] <ForgeAus> white it is easy
[09:26] <ForgeAus> I do it
[09:26] <Myrtti> white_: dualboot.
[09:27] <Myrtti> white_: dualboot or virtualization
[09:27] <antares> good morning how can I install joomla in ubuntu?
[09:27] <nomin> fccf: you're right about the display being different from what is actually happening.
[09:27] <ForgeAus> Padhu to install windows you would need something like VMware
[09:27] <ShockF> back
[09:27] <Padhu> oh.
[09:27] <barf> PS3 bug 1) partman is not able to partition if there is a MASS storage device connected
[09:27] <barf> PS3 bug 2) When logging in the mouse and keyboard becomes paralyzed if an EyeToy camera is connected
[09:27] <ForgeAus> check winehq.org or the appdb for more info about age of empires specifically there may be some configuration you need to modify
[09:27] <Padhu> then what is the possibility?
[09:27] <fccf> nomin: good to know
[09:27] <ForgeAus> white I use ntldr and have 4 OS's simultaneously installed
[09:28] <Padhu> FOrgeAus: Thank you
[09:28] <ForgeAus> I switch between Kubuntu linux, Windows and OSX regularly
[09:28] <ForgeAus> (I do have a legacy dos/win98 too)
[09:28] <ShockF> fccf - still no good same error
[09:28] <fccf> !enter | ForgeAus
[09:28] <nomin> fccf: but the thing is, if I scroll the mouse over the gnome display of internet traffic, the graph goes down to zero, which is very wierd to a schmo like me.
[09:28] <ForgeAus> the most common option would be to use grub as your boot manager tho ...
[09:29] <fccf> ShockF: strange . and checkdsk ran complete
[09:29] <ForgeAus> fccf sorry I wasn't trying to use up extra lines or anything
[09:29] <ShockF> i assume so
[09:30] <ForgeAus> (I think Grub2 can even boot OSX itself nowerdays - so you may even be able to bypass OSX's boot loader)
[09:31] <fccf> ShockF: don't assume .. the blue screen that runs during bootup of windows .. you have to run chkdsk /f and say run at next boot ... then reboot and let it run it's scan ... then reboot again into windows and do a proper shutdown ... or ubuntu won't read the drive -- is that a little more detail
[09:31] <nomin> fccf: I'm just glad that the Master Plan to wipe out most of humanity didn't come to fruition ;)
[09:31] <ctrlmd> hi im recieving this error every time i try to install ubuntu 9.04 [[ Error informing the kernel about modifications to partition /dev/sda5
[09:31] <ctrlmd>    -- Device or resource busy. This means Linux won't know about any
[09:31] <ctrlmd>    changes you made to /dev/sda5 until you reboot -- so you shouldn't
[09:31] <ctrlmd>    mount it or use it in any way before rebooting.]]
[09:31] <FloodBot2> ctrlmd: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:31] <fccf> nomin: still working on that - I'll let you know how it goes
[09:31] <ForgeAus> Myrtti any idea how to get it? can I just download the .deb from somewhere? it shouldn't be a problem if I have the dependancies should it?... was it just overlooked? or considered unnecessary or was it problematic somehow?
[09:31] <scizzo-> ForgeAus: I think that white wanted to switch between them almost like using workspaces
[09:32] <antares> anyone can help me here?
[09:32] <ForgeAus> scizzo you can pretty much do that with AndLinux between windows and Linux (functions much like an embedded Ubuntu running from a hardfile)
[09:32] <scizzo-> !ask | antares
[09:32] <ForgeAus> but OSX isn't available that way...
[09:32] <antares> how can i install joomla
[09:32] <nomin> fccf: ok dude, I'll get back to on that.  Let's just hope that NASA found a way out.
[09:32] <ShockF> ok fccf ill try it again
[09:33] <antares> in ubuntu
[09:33] <Myrtti> antares: did you read the install guide of Joomla in their pages?
[09:33] <antares> no
[09:33] <fccf> antares: do you have a LAMP-server installed?
[09:33] <ctrlmd> hi im recieving this error everytime i try to install ubuntu 9.04 http://paste.ubuntu.com/193307/
[09:33] <antares> yes i have lamp server
[09:34] <Myrtti> ForgeAus: I have no idea, sorry
[09:34] <antares> mysql php5 and apache
[09:34] <ForgeAus> Myrtti thanx anyway
[09:34] <koshari> ctrlmd what is sda5?
[09:35] <ctrlmd> nothing
[09:35] <ctrlmd> it even does not exist
[09:35] <koshari> is your drive unpartitoned?
[09:36] <fubaz> just installed 9.04 on a disk with an existing disk with winxp pro on it for dual boot.  The installation is not what I wanted as it left 90% of the disk or so to winxp and a mere 200 mb or so to linux.  I wonder if i can just resize partitions or best to just go thru the install again.
[09:36] <hoo-hah> hello. I'm not currently in front of the computer, so I can't find out exactly, but are most wifi pci cards w/ atheros chipset supported in a vanilla Jaunty install?
[09:37] <hoo-hah> I remember reading ages ago that atheros were opening up the specs. Previously I had to use madwifi for a relative's install
[09:37] <ctrlmd> KOSHARI:i got a free space and i created a partition for ubuntu and a swap space and everytime i try to install i have this error
[09:37] <koshari> ctrlmd can you pastebin the output of fdisk -l?
[09:38] <ctrlmd> KOSHARI :At this moment no cause when i try to login after ignoring the error i recieve a boot error number 18
[09:39] <koshari> ctrlmd boot of the live disc, mount the drive and run it
[09:39] <koshari> ctrlmd btw thats a grub error
[09:40] <ctrlmd> yeah thats when i finish installing
[09:40] <GreaterCore> how do i disable the touchpad on a laptop using xubuntu?
[09:40] <sydneyguy> Hail all
[09:40] <ctrlmd> i'll try to run live cd
[09:40] <sydneyguy> How good is the Ubuntu Server compared to other Linux Servers?
[09:41] <koshari> GreaterCore you may be able to blacklist the module it uses or use an xorg rule
[09:41] <sky_1> hi
[09:41] <fccf> !hi | sky_1
[09:41] <sky_1> which program can work and edit Microsoft Acces 2003 database ?
[09:42] <fccf> sky_1: openoffice base will open those files .. you may have to fix some functionality though
[09:42] <nixiepixel> sky_1 openoffice can handle it
[09:42] <sky_1> and how is called in openoffice ?
[09:42] <scizzo-> sydneyguy: I believe you should be a little more specific
[09:43] <barf> I had the following bugs filed: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/385852 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/385851
[09:43] <fccf> sky_1: open it in openoffice ... openoffice will recoginse the file
[09:43] <sky_1> ok
[09:44] <sky_1> doesnt work
[09:44] <sky_1> it open in Writer
[09:44] <fccf> sky_1: anything on the writer screen?
[09:45] <sky_1> no
[09:45] <sky_1> just some words
[09:45] <scizzo-> sky_1: http://www.openoffice.org/FAQs/ms-access/ms-access.html
[09:45] <sky_1> many thanks
[09:46] <fccf> scizzo: ty
[09:46] <scizzo-> thats old however it should work still
[09:46] <scizzo-> or give hints to how to work with the files
[09:46] <lo1270> is there a flag to cp that do not over wright but creates a new file?
[09:46] <scizzo-> fccf: thanks for what?
[09:46] <sky_1> scizzo-: theres only guide for windows
[09:47] <lo1270> like cp file backup; will keep making new files, backup1 backup2 etc
[09:47] <scizzo-> sky_1: openoffice should work pretty much the same way in both windows and linux
[09:47] <fccf> scizzo: your continuing support, I learn things too that way
[09:47] <ShockF> fccf still doesnt work =/
[09:48] <sky_1> scizzo-: bah cant
[09:49] <fccf> ShockF: arg, I have used ntfs-3g so many times .. I am confused as to why it is not working for you...
[09:49] <scizzo-> sky_1: did you even try to google a little for it?
[09:50] <ShockF> fccf you said a blue screen at startuo i never get a blue screen
[09:50] <sky_1> no ^^
[09:50] <scizzo-> sky_1: I find loads of tries to import those kind of files
[09:50] <fccf> ShockF: then chkdsk did not run
[09:50] <sky_1> yea
[09:50] <scizzo-> sky_1: search for: openoffice linux access 2003 database
[09:50] <fccf> ShockF: Vista or XP?
[09:51] <ShockF> it did run i saw it but its on a black screen
[09:51] <scizzo-> sky_1: really should have a look at what others have tried and try yourself
[09:51] <ShockF> Vista
[09:51] <fccf> ShockF: I am used to seeing it run on a blue screen I guess
[09:51] <ShockF> oh
[09:51] <fccf> ShockF: cant stand vista
[09:51] <ShockF> me neither but i have to keep it
[09:52] <fccf> ShockF: do you just need to get data back and forth
[09:52] <scizzo-> ShockF: what is the problem?
[09:52] <scizzo-> ShockF: or what are you trying to do?
[09:52] <ShockF> yeh pretty much and listen to music and videos when im not on the vista side
[09:53] <mateusz> siemka
[09:53] <fccf> scizzo: ShockF is trying to mount his vista partition in ubuntu ... ran chkdsk /f - ubuntu still wont mount
[09:53] <scizzo-> ShockF: can you pastebin a few things?
[09:54] <ShockF> sure what u need
[09:54] <scizzo-> ShockF: hmmm wait what have you tried to do so far?
[09:54] <nixiepixel> ShockF - do you have encryption set on your NTFS drive?
[09:54] <ShockF> ive tried using terminal and ntfs-3g to mount it and also pysdm
[09:54] <nixiepixel> *partition
[09:54] <fccf> nixiepixel: good point ... I hadn't thought of that
[09:54] <ShockF> nixie not that im aware of
[09:55] <scizzo-> ShockF: right...so you know what disc the partition for ntfs is on?
[09:55] <ShockF> yh
[09:55] <fubaz> i want to reinstall unbuntu 9.04 a a disk that dual boots with winxp.  How do I best get rid of the last ubuntu installation.  Just delete the linux partitions?
[09:55] <n0mic> anyone know what ati card i should buy to run dual head?
[09:55] <n0mic> ~
ya an nvidia one :P
[09:56] <ziroday> n0mic: any recent R600 or R700 one should do
[09:56] <koshari> fubaz just reuse the partition and format it and mount it as /
[09:56] <indus> fubaz: just install new ubuntu over it
[09:56] <n0mic> why should i buy nvidia insmod
[09:56] <n0mic> i have used an agp ati card to run current dual head but want to not use agp
[09:56] <koshari> n0mic because ati drivers are crap atm
[09:56] <indus> fubaz: or use live cd and format it /delete it whatever
[09:56] <scizzo-> ShockF: ok....mounting ntfs partitions can be a pain
[09:56] <fubaz> the thing is that partition is too small i want to use less for winxp
[09:57] <n0mic> #i stand a better chance of getting dual head working with nvidia?
[09:57] <fccf> fubaz: shrink xp
[09:57] <Makuseru> Hi, I'm having a problem. Before I upgraded to 9.04 from 8.04 when ever i plugged my mp3 player into its dock and turned it on it would show up on my desktop as a removable drive(like a thumb drive) But now that ive upgraded, when ever i plug it into its dock it never gets recognized. Does anyone know how to fix this?
[09:57] <ShockF> scizzo i can see but when i mounted the system and recovery partitions they mounted fine
[09:57] <ziroday> n0mic: here is the list of supported radeon cards against the new radeonhd driver, that works great http://cgit.freedesktop.org/xorg/driver/xf86-video-radeonhd/plain/README
[09:57] <indus> fubaz: delete it then from live cd and create new partitions etc
 better propriatary driver support -- the linux ones are ok the manufac.. ones are better and nvidia has full support
[09:57] <n0mic> for dual head ziroday?
[09:57] <ziroday> n0mic: yes they support dualhead, just make sure the card does
[09:57] <n0mic> ok ty dudes
[09:58] <n0mic> thats a divx and an analogue port on it ziroday?
[09:58] <myself> anyone know the name of that foobar off topic channel
[09:58] <ziroday> n0mic: err what? Do you mean DVI and VGA port?
[09:58] <myself> something about a grill
[09:58] <fccf> !ot
[09:58] <scizzo-> ShockF: you could try the tool ntfs-config
[09:58] <ziroday> myself: #freenode, we aren't a channel list
[09:59] <scizzo-> ShockF: and see if that can help you with mounting the partition
[09:59] <myself> theres one on this network!!
[09:59] <scizzo-> ShockF: its a gui for the mounting
[09:59] <n0mic> digital and analog ziroday i don'#t know what the portws are called currently on my ati card (agp) i have digital and analog port off it
[09:59] <ShockF> tryed it
[09:59] <nixiepixel> ShockF - did you post your fdisk output above?
[09:59] <ShockF> nope want me to
[09:59] <ziroday> n0mic: okay, all you need to get is two ports. Usually the cards come with two DVI ports, or a DVI and HDMI port
[10:00] <skyl> how's the ffmpeg in the jaunty pacjage manager?
[10:00] <nixiepixel> ShockF - it couldn't hurt to see what fdisk sees (I guess you would use paste.ubuntu.com ?)
[10:01] <skyl> should one still compile ffmpeg from source to be able to have any hope of it working?
[10:01] <ziroday> skyl: the ffmpeg from the package manager is fine
[10:02] <skyl> okay, I'll give it a shot then
[10:02] <ShockF> nixie http://paste.ubuntu.com/193325/plain/
[10:03] <nixiepixel> ShockF - thanks, is /dev/sda3 the drive you are trying to mount?
[10:03] <ShockF> yup
[10:04] <n0mic> im considering an ati radeon hd 3450 256mb ddr2 pci-e dvi tv out oem £25 for dual head is that a good choice?
[10:04] <nixiepixel> *partition, sorry!
[10:04] <ShockF> yh thts right /dev/sda3 is what i after
[10:05] <nixiepixel> ShockF - sorry, I wasn't around before, what is the error message you get when you try to mount it?
[10:05] <ShockF> 1 sec
[10:06] <chalcedony> how can i find the path to a file ?
[10:06] <whatvn> locate filename
[10:06] <MementoMori> hi
[10:07] <ShockF> http://paste.ubuntu.com/193328/plain/ here you are nixie
[10:07] <darkest_night> hi @ all, does any1 know how to install aptana?
[10:07] <whatvn> !aptana
[10:07] <whatvn> :D
[10:07] <darkest_night> ...
[10:07] <nixiepixel> ShockF - is this partition part of a RAID array?
[10:07] <MementoMori> i'm using jaunty. is it possible printing only selected text of a document? I can't find this option in printing option...
[10:08] <ShockF> nixie tbh ive absolutely no idea how would i check
[10:08] <nixiepixel> ShockF - Is this your PC? Do you have the specs for it, if not? It would help to know how it was partitioned.
[10:09] <Machtin> hi! does anyone know whether unrar supports multicore?
[10:09] <nixiepixel> ShockF - also, is this an external or internal drive?
[10:10] <ShockF>  nixie yes this is my pc  no i dont have the specs for it hoever it is a Advent 5311 and its an internal drive
[10:11] <nixiepixel> ShockF - what is the command you are using to mount it?
[10:11] <chazco> Hi... anyone here know how to fix evtouch crashes?
[10:11] <[nrx]> 33
[10:11] <[nrx]> 3
[10:11] <[nrx]> oops
[10:11] <[nrx]> sorry :)
[10:12] <ShockF> well im using pysdm atm but i can try the terminal command if u give it me
[10:13] <[nrx]> clear
[10:13] <XCP> hi. I created an application launcher and entered as the command "command parameter" ... now, is there a way to change the current working directory to a specific directory before invoking command? I know it's possible with a script, but is it also possible with a desktop app launcher?
[10:13] <[nrx]> can anyone help with this error in kern.log - Jun 11 10:09:38 oogabooga kernel: [  999.321257] phy0: failed to set freq to 5820 MHz for scan
[10:13] <[nrx]> seems I suddenly can't connect to wireless networks
[10:13] <nixiepixel> ShockF - ok, I'm a newbie at this, but you'll need to create a directory (like /mnt/ntfs) and give it permissions, then it should be something like mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda3 /mnt/ntfs
[10:13] <ShockF> kk
[10:13] <XCP> [nrx]: guessing blindly, but maybe this is of any help: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1156209
[10:14] <XCP> [nrx]: also: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22+failed+to+set+freq+to%22&aq=f&oq=&aqi=
[10:14] <nixiepixel> ShockF - are you running Ubuntu (gnome)? Just for my info. And I think you'll want to do something like sudo mkdir /mnt/ntfs then sudo chmod 775 /mnt/ntfs
[10:14] <nixiepixel> before you try to mount to it
[10:15] <ShockF> kk
[10:15] <[nrx]> XCP, yeah I should have hit google first. I'm just puzzled why it should only suddenly start happening when I haven't been having a problem beforehand.
[10:15] <ShockF> and yh im runnin ubuntu
[10:16] <XCP> [nrx]: a computer and all its components are VERY complex. and although you may not actively change something, a lot of things happen in the background. this can be the hardware's fault, Ubuntu's fault, any other component's fault.
[10:17] <[nrx]> XCP, indeed.
[10:17] <nixiepixel> ShockF - FYI I think many laptop distributors will create a small recovery partition along with your main partition, but I'm not sure what your third one is...perhaps Vista is on the second (boot) partition, then a data partition is /dev/sda3?
[10:19] <ShockF>  ok sda1 is the recovery partition sda2 is the sytem partiton where i assume all the major settings are kept and sda3 is my vista partition
[10:20] <nixiepixel> Sure, let us know how the mount command went (you'll need to add sudo to it as well, unless you're running the terminal session as root)
[10:20] <ShockF> also i think it could be setup as a raid bewteen sad 1,2,3 because theyre all linked for example if something goes wrong the recovery menu pops up
[10:20] <ShockF> how do i crete the folder /mnt/ntfs
[10:20] <nixiepixel> ShockF - I don't think that would be the case, but I could be wrong, like I said I'm a newbie!
[10:20] <nixiepixel> ShockF - sudo mkdir /mnt/ntfs
[10:21] <nixiepixel> then sudo chmod 755 /mnt/ntfs
[10:22] <ShockF> ok done that now what
[10:24] <nixiepixel> ShockF sudo  mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda3 /mnt/ntfs
[10:24] <ShockF> k
[10:24] <nixiepixel> Oops, extra space in there, it will probably mess up the command
[10:24] <Boohbah> nixiepixel: nope the space won't hurt
[10:25] <ShockF> ok i think its done it where would i go now to find it
[10:25] <genelisp> hi, I have Gutsy Gibbon, my sources.list no longer works - http://dpaste.com/54044/ - where can I find a new one?
[10:25] <hoo-hah> hi guys. I'm looaking into using pinning (unstable on testing.) There appears to be quite a few guides on how to do so, but each vary on the contents of /etc/apt/preferences
[10:25] <hoo-hah> I've settled on http://pastebin.com/f255b58fa
[10:25] <XCP> hi. I created an application launcher and entered as the command "command parameter" ... now, is there a way to change the current working directory to a specific directory before invoking command? I know it's possible with a script, but is it also possible with a desktop app launcher?
[10:25] <hoo-hah> which gives me a bit of safety in that I have to explicitly install packages/unstable
[10:25] <largi> #ubuntu.pl
[10:26] <ShockF> nope didnt work
[10:26] <hoo-hah> My question is, will safe-upgrade or dist-upgrade still operate on unstable packages?
[10:26] <hoo-hah> oops. wrong channel ;)
[10:26] <nixiepixel> ShockF - you would cd /mnt/ntfs
[10:26] <hoo-hah> disregard that
[10:27] <nixiepixel> Did you get an error message?
[10:27] <Boohbah> genelisp: http://tuxicity.wordpress.com/sourceslist-for-gutsy-gibbon/
[10:28] <wtl> how do I make the gksu window "windowed" and not gray out the background? :) I remember setting that option before
[10:28] <ShockF> nixie so i type cd /mnt/ntfs in terminal
[10:29] <Boohbah> genelisp: but your sources.list looks like it should work
[10:29] <zith__> in my infinite stupidity i deleted all the rc to, and /etc/init.d/ntp itself
[10:29] <chalcedony> does anyone do sed or awk coding?
[10:29] <hoo-hah> Boohbah: how long have you had that nick?
[10:29] <Boohbah> zith__: sudo update-rc.d ntp defaults
[10:29] <hoo-hah> :)
[10:29] <Boohbah> zith__: oh, that won't bring back the init script...
[10:30] <zith__> yeah, is there a nice place to grab the script from?
[10:30] <Boohbah> zith__: here's my /etc/init.d/ntp from hardy http://dpaste.com/54052/
[10:31] <nixiepixel> ShockF - yes, you are literally mounting your partition to /mnt/ntfs - that will be the root of your partition, if it is mounted correctly
[10:31] <zith__> thanks a ton Boohbah
[10:31] <ShockF> ok it dindt work so ill try again later and ill be back later gotta go do some things
[10:31] <joeri> chalcedony: sed yes, axk no
[10:31] <Boohbah> hoohaah: since the turn of the century :)
[10:31] <nixiepixel> ShockF - also, if you are on Ubuntu, under "Places" your other partitions will be listed, or should be
[10:32] <chalcedony> joeri: i have a problem that i think it might be a solution for, can i message you since it's not a #ubuntu topic ?
[10:32] <zach3300> hey guys how is everyone
[10:32] <ShockF> yeh all the partitons are listed and all mounted except vista which it says i dont have privaledge to do so
[10:32] <nixiepixel> Ahh
[10:32] <ShockF> but yh ill be back in around 20 mins gotta do some thingw
[10:32] <zach3300> that good huh
[10:33] <nixiepixel> ShockF - yeah, sorry, I'm sure people here can help then, I seem to remember the problem when you don't have priviliges to mount a partition in Nautilis, and I know there have to be folks to help you with that
[10:34] <henux> i compiled a library from sources and installed it system-wide into /usr/local. now when i try to run a program which depends on that library i get "cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" how do i add this path to the path of libraries to load from?
[10:35] <zach3300> well i have a question what is the diff between ubuntu and mac os x
[10:35] <unicum> does the ubuntu live disk include gpart?
[10:36] <genelisp> how do I add new keys to apt-key so that my (new) sources.list works?
[10:36] <pretender> running Eeebuntu lost icons top right panel
[10:36] <reenignEesreveR> i wanna quick format a partition ... whats the best way?
[10:36] <Nimatek> i'd appreciate if anyone could offer advice on my network printer problem: Sharp MX-350U is active and receives print order but doesn't print anything
[10:37] <zach3300> sorroy got booted
[10:37] <Nimatek> Sharp MX-M350U i mean
[10:38] <zach3300> what was the diffrens now
[10:38] <zach3300> cause i  thought the were alot alike
[10:39] <spiff74> Hi! Im trying to set up a postgres database, and have installed all needed files via the package manager.. But Im getting an errormessage when I try to run postgres.. su postgres -c create-database.sh is the command I run, and su: Authentication failure is the errormessage...
[10:39] <XCP> hi. I created an application launcher and entered as the command "command parameter" ... now, is there a way to change the current working directory to a specific directory before invoking command? I know it's possible with a script, but is it also possible with a desktop app launcher?
[10:41] <reenignEesreveR> can i quick format using gparted?
[10:41] <vraa> hey quick question - how is the tablet support in ubuntu? i have a hp tx1020 :)
[10:43] <halfie> emergency: I have /dev/sdc2 mounted and working OK ... but I accidently deleted partitions while the disk was mounted .. how can I recover the partitions .. ?
[10:43] <spiff74> hmm.. not much answers here.. just questions.. maybe there are other ubuntu channels?
[10:44] <halfie> . /dev/sdc2 is still mounted and working properly ..
[10:44] <indus_> halfie: what is dev sdc 2 , a hard drive?
[10:44] <stevecam> how do i log other people off the system from the command line
[10:44] <sydneyguy> Why Ubuntu server 9.04 has no x windows?
[10:44] <stevecam> sydneyguy, its best not to run a server with X
[10:44] <indus_> sydneyguy: cos its a server OS, and most people work on the command line in it, its faster
[10:45] <halfie> indus_: yes
[10:45] <iceroot> sydneyguy: because server dont need a gui, but you can install gnome, kde and so on
[10:45] <Boohbah> sydneyguy: because X uses resources that would be better used for serving services...
[10:45] <halfie> indus_: kernel is still using old partition  table .. can i get the table back from kernel copy somehow
[10:45] <halfie> ?>
[10:45] <indus_> sydneyguy: and also as stevecam mentions, its a security issue and also Boohbah is right, X is a resource hog
[10:46] <intok> Edubuntu, Qimo or something else, whats better for old gear? P3 600Mhz, 512Mb ram kinda stuff
[10:46] <indus_> halfie: sorry i dont know this
[10:46] <halfie> okay np
[10:46] <indus_> halfie: how did you delete the partitions btw
[10:46] <indus_> !
[10:46] <indus_> no iam still here
[10:46] <stevecam> installing X on a server just slows it down, linux programs are usualy command line based, with GUI's for people who are still getting used to things, where windows has a big disadvantage of being completely reliant on some sort of GUI
[10:47] <indus_> connection reset by beer haahahha hoohoho
[10:47] <stevecam> you can install X, but you want to follow the KISS principle, keep it short and simple
[10:47] <ringo999> stil the same problem: can't get german keyboard on macbook work correctly. tried all kinds of settings in the Settings->Keyboard->Layout menu with no succes. Also tried to use my xorg.conf from a working debian system but it didn't really work. Dpkg-reconfigure xorg-server will give me a generic conf file...
[10:47] <sydneyguy> I want to learn to use the server .. so I will install gnome to be able to learn faster and easier
[10:48] <Boohbah> intok: they are probably similar in terms of resource use
[10:48] <ringo999> where does ubuntu store keyboard settings?
[10:48] <stevecam> sydneyguy, what exactly do you want to serve?
[10:48] <ringo999> possible to manually edit those files?
[10:48] <iceroot> sydneyguy: you dont need a gui for a server
[10:48] <indus_> sydneyguy: also i find gui to be buggy sometims and doesnt work as intended
[10:49] <vraa> sydneyguy it's not really wise to use X on server, because it's so slow
[10:49] <sydneyguy> I want to learn and play around with it.. and also to be able to use firefox and browsethe web and read docs
[10:49] <stevecam> its virtually impossible to include all functions of a server in a GUI
[10:49] <vraa> sydneyguy learning the ins and outs of linux server stuff is MUCH faster if you just isntall the server stuff, setup ssh, and then ssh from another computer into it
[10:49] <sydneyguy> and when I am ok with it .. I will re-install it without gui
[10:49] <sydneyguy> I am installing gnome at this moment
[10:49] <vraa> that's what i do, and it works out very well -- it keeps the server itself trim and free of extra crap, and it allows me to keep using firefox and stuff for reading tutorials
[10:50] <indus_> sydneyguy: but if you really want to learn a server OS , you should without the GUI
[10:50] <ringo999> i really would appreciate any help with this, been looking for a solution for two day, also posted in the forum. Can't really work (code) without a working keyboard :-(
[10:50] <iceroot> sydneyguy: then you dont need ubuntu server, you need ubuntu
[10:50] <iceroot> sydneyguy: use a normal desktop-system
[10:50] <sydneyguy> wait
[10:50] <darvish> hi
[10:50] <sydneyguy> If I install ubuntu 9.04 server..
[10:50] <stevecam> sydneyguy, use a normal desktop until you are ready
[10:50] <indus_> ringo999: can u state ur issue again
[10:51] <sydneyguy> What do i need to do to be able to ssh and configure everything remotely
[10:51] <iceroot> sydneyguy: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[10:51] <kj4> sydneyguy, check off ssh during the install
[10:51] <Bittarman> Anyone know how to use gdb with apache without getting "apache2: bad user name ${APACHE_RUN_USER}"
[10:52] <stevecam> sydneyguy,how long have you been using *nixes for?
[10:52] <iceroot> sydneyguy: and if you are new to linux, please learn with a local system, not a real root-server in the net
[10:53] <iceroot> sydneyguy: spam-relay, hacked warez system and so on are not very nice
[10:53] <stevecam> yeah, running everything in root is a big no-no
[10:53] <harahauk> sydneyguy: all you need is to install openssh-server and make sure any firewall isnt blocking the ssh port
[10:53] <iceroot> stevecam: i was meanin a root-server you can rent
[10:53] <sydneyguy> no no .. I am installing it and using it locallyand learn it then when I am ok .. I will use it ..
[10:53] <XCP> hi. I created an application launcher and entered as the command "command parameter" ... now, is there a way to change the current working directory to a specific directory before invoking command? I know it's possible with a script, but is it also possible with a desktop app launcher?
[10:54] <stevecam> iceroot, oh, lol
[10:54] <iceroot> sydneyguy: for learning use ubuntu 9.04 (not server edition)
[10:54] <sydneyguy> Which command tells me the ip address of the server?
[10:54] <guntbert> Bittarman: you might want to ask in #httpd
[10:54] <iceroot> sydneyguy: try learning how to start and stop services, how to work with vi, learn why there is sudo, how to install programs and so on
[10:54] <iceroot> sydneyguy: ifconfig
[10:54] <vraa> sydneyguy try "ifconfig"
[10:54] <ringo999> indus_: trying to get german keyboard on macbook to work. tried all model/layout combinations from settings->keyboard->layout menu. also tried manually editing xorg.conf. Dpkg-reconfigure xorg-xserver will give me a generic xorg.cong though. I don't no what to do anymore. I'm running xubuntu jauntry.
[10:54] <harahauk> depends on what you want to learn really, if you want to learn server management starting up with desktop edition is kinda futile
[10:55] <stevecam> sydneyguy, when i started using linux, i messed around with some mini distro's, you get your hands dirty real fast and there quick to reinstall, and you can even emulate them in a ram disk
[10:55] <iceroot> harahauk: learning linux first is a good idea :)
[10:55] <harahauk> iceroot: yea, but do you learn linux faster by using desktop edition? isnt that just learning gnome/kde/flux/whatever
[10:55] <stevecam> sydneyguy, everyone has there uses for linux, you might find it easy just having a server that you can fuck around with
[10:56] <ringo999> indus_: just to make it clear: the keyboard works except some "special" keys like F11, or the SUPER key for getting email at symbol etc.
[10:56] <iceroot> harahauk: no :)
[10:56] <guntbert> !ohmy | stevecam
[10:56] <iceroot> harahauk: a gui is a good start to learn linux
[10:56] <stevecam> oh whoops, i forgot
[10:56] <guntbert> stevecam: :)
[10:56] <stevecam> well, mess around with
[10:56] <stevecam> :-)
[10:56] <harahauk> iceroot: to repeat myself for spite, depends on what you want to learn ;)
[10:57] <iceroot> harahauk: the first think you want to learn is that linux is not windows :)
[10:57] <ringo999> indus_: SUPER translates into ALT-GR (the "apple" key)
[10:57] <ringo999> indus_: any idea?
[10:57] <sydneyguy> I am re-installing it again in text mode .. and i will use ssh to configure it .. as you said .. I know how move around and do things in linux.. not expert .. but i can manage
[10:57] <harahauk> iceroot: that should be painfully obvious ;)
[10:57] <iceroot> harahauk: :)
[10:58] <spiff74> Ill try posting my question again...   Im trying to set up a postgres database, and have installed all needed files via the package manager.. But Im getting an errormessage when I try to run postgres.. su postgres -c create-database.sh is the command I run, and su: Authentication failure is the errormessage...
[10:58] <Chiliblue_> gui is handy but won't really help you learn the guts of linux
[10:58] <harahauk> i agree
[10:58] <stevecam> sydneyguy, have you read any bash tutorials, they might be worth reading, since bash is a lot more advanced then MSDOS
[10:58] <iceroot> spiff74: su postgres and then createdb
[10:59] <Chiliblue_> web browsing in console isn't a great experience though
[10:59] <Chiliblue_> :)
[10:59] <ringo999> why does dpkg-reconfgiure xorg-xserver give a generic "empty" xorg.conf? Where is all the configuratio regarding X11 (keyboard!) handled?
[10:59] <iceroot> Chiliblue_: also vi
[10:59] <stevecam> Chiliblue_, depends what website your visiting
[10:59] <spiff74> iceroot: ok, so I need to remove the -c argument?
[10:59]  * Chiliblue_ shudders
[10:59] <guntbert> spiff74: one aspect comes to my mind: "su postgres..." is rather unusual in ubuntu, did you install postgresql from the repos?
[11:00] <genelisp> hi, I get 'invalid key' when I try to update with apt-get how can I solve this?
[11:00] <spiff74> guntbert: yes I did..
[11:00] <sydneyguy> I used Linux the 1st time 1993
[11:00] <harahauk> hmm, did i miss something? sydneyguy you are trying to set up a server right? not a home computer?
[11:00] <ringo999> anybody?
[11:00] <Chiliblue_> true spiff74 but get less so as the years go by
[11:00] <harahauk> if its your home computer the desktop edition is a natural choice
[11:01] <harahauk> but if you want to learn how to manage a server, skip the gui all together and start googling everything you want to do :P
[11:01] <harahauk> or read man pagges for stuff you know the commands for
[11:01] <harahauk> soon youll be working effective as hell :)
[11:01] <stevecam> sydneyguy, you arnt gonna loose any brownie points for failing, just mess around with it, have a look at things, one good thing to do is try to reproduce the same result, once you can do what you want to do more then once, you should be set
[11:02] <stevecam> am i making sense?
[11:02] <sydneyguy> It was very differnet than now .. was very hard .. and Slackwarewas the best .. Redhat was at the beginning
[11:02] <spiff74> guntbert: should I not use su postgres then?
[11:02] <guntbert> spiff74: ah, I see now (think so): that command assumes, you are root, but of course you are not, you might try sudo -i first, though I'm not certain if that is the recommended way ... maybe someone else sees the flaw?
[11:02] <harahauk> my approach for learning server management was virtualization. virtualize a testbox and wreck it like crazy. then try to learn from the faults you made :)
[11:03] <Chiliblue_> so also don't need to reinstall in text mode, just install then choose not to start x
[11:03] <spiff74> guntbert: ok, Ill try that :)
[11:03] <stevecam> sydneyguy, if you know your way around the bash system, then LFS may be able to teach you a thing or two
[11:03] <sydneyguy> I think Ubuntu and linux in general is well documented now .. especially the server stuff because .. it is the most used servers
[11:03] <Chiliblue_> I don't think installing in text mode makes you more manly
[11:03] <cypha> who suggested GIZMO for SKYPE?
[11:03] <sydneyguy> I have the last version .. and I will try it soon
[11:03] <stevecam> Chiliblue_, it makes me more manly
[11:03] <LandFree> Hi
[11:04] <sydneyguy> I stopped using linux for a long time
[11:04] <guntbert> spiff74: you see: su ... assumes the identity of that user, so you should have the password or be root
[11:04] <sydneyguy> I used Mac OS X
[11:04] <Chiliblue_> sydneyguy: you should be fine then
[11:04] <spiff74> guntbert: ok, that clarifies it.. Im an OS X guy, same as sydneyguy, so my knowledge about linux and ubuntu is minimal..
[11:05] <sydneyguy> WHen I install Ubuntu server .. what shall i choose for the mail config .. no Configuration or Internet Site
[11:05] <unicum> now.. i'm just burning an ubuntu live disc for gparted.. because fdisk gave me this http://kthx.de/~unicum/fdisk.txt on an external drive
[11:05] <genelisp> hi, I get 'invalid key' when I try to update with apt-get how can I solve this?
[11:05] <unicum> any ideas what i'll do with this, once the disk is ready and booted?
[11:05] <Chiliblue_> I use osx for my day to day desktop and linux on servers
[11:05] <intok> Hhhmmm... Edubuntu says it needs a 1Ghz cpu, Qimo says a 400Mhz but neds much more install space, interesting
[11:05] <guntbert> spiff74: :)
[11:05] <sydneyguy> In my case I used linux before Mac OS X ...
[11:05] <stevecam> Chiliblue_, imo, mac are just as bad as MS
[11:05] <sydneyguy> But when I started using Mac OS X .. I hated windows and I stopped using it ..
[11:06] <guntbert> !ot | sydneyguy
[11:06] <sydneyguy> and when I saw Ubuntu .. I became in love with it .. but can not leave Mac OS X .. it is magic .. no one can leave Mac OS X or Apple
[11:06] <Nimatek> i'd appreciate if anyone could offer advice on my network printer problem: Sharp MX-M350U is active and receives print order but doesn't print anything
[11:07] <stevecam> sydneyguy, i have a apple G3
[11:07] <spiff74> in one year I had to reinstall winblowz two times, because it got slow as hell, but after one year with OS X, the computer feels as snappy and quick as the first time I unpacked it..
[11:07] <stevecam> its great for a terminal client
[11:07] <vraa> um, i left osx
[11:07] <vraa> it was great, but it sucked because i couldn't really run any games, or use any fancy smancy linux stuff
[11:07] <sydneyguy> I have iMac 24" 3.06 GHz Allumin .. and MacBookPro 17" Unibody 2.93 GHz
[11:08] <stevecam> i lost my faith in apple after the iPhone was released
[11:08] <sydneyguy> and planning in buying MacPro 8-core soon
[11:08] <stevecam> sydneyguy, PPC or x86?
[11:08] <bazhang> stevecam, sydneyguy please take chat to #ubuntu-offtopic thanks
[11:08] <sydneyguy> stevencam: why?
[11:08] <sydneyguy> ok .. sorry
[11:08] <intok> I still use my Quicksilver G4 daily with tiger, been eyeing maxing it out with the Maxpower dual 1.8Ghz G4 and a 7800GT AGP
[11:08] <ringo999_> i want to leave osx, but i cant get the keyboard to work properly with xubunto on macbook. could anybody please try to help me?
[11:08] <stevecam> sydneyguy, if it was an x86, you could install ubuntu on it :-)
[11:09] <LandFree> I've spent some time reading about building my own linux distro, and many articles say it's best to start with another distro as a core, such as ubuntu, it's having strong safe security, does anyone know of an article which i can have ubuntu as my core and build upon it, thank you :)
[11:09] <sydneyguy> Do u mean iPhone?
[11:09] <intok> stevecam you can still install an older version of ubuntu on the ppc, and theres always yellow dog
[11:09] <sydneyguy> Yes ...
[11:09] <intok> I remebmer there being mandriva and slack ports as well
[11:09] <sydneyguy> u can use LFS ...
[11:10] <sydneyguy> and use ur Ubuntu as ur Host system
[11:10] <stevecam> intok, well, at the moment im compiling LFS for my G3 :-)
[11:10] <guntbert> LandFree: this channel is for ubuntu-support only, please ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:10] <bazhang> !ot
[11:10] <sydneyguy> x86
[11:10] <intok> there was also Mac On Linux, which was an early VM system
[11:10] <sydneyguy> I did not see it sorry
[11:10] <genelisp> how can I get apt-get to update without giving me invalid key errors?
[11:10] <bazhang> intok, please chat elsewhere
[11:10] <darvish> hi
[11:11] <LandFree> oh sorry, thanks
[11:11] <jjibn> hi all who can give me a copy of file of bash under the directory of bin as I erased it without purpose
[11:11] <sydneyguy> I am now using Ubuntu in Parallels .. very fast i do not feel it is in virtual
[11:11] <sydneyguy> I used to have triple boot Ubuntu
[11:11] <stevecam> jjibn o_0
[11:11] <intok> bazhang it;s ubuntu/linux related, it'd be moreso if Canocial hand;t dropped PPC support...
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[11:12] <webman> jjibn: just re-install the package "sudo apt-get --reinstall install bash" should work...
[11:12] <guntbert> intok: "related" doesn't matter here, *this* is strictly for support questions, thank you
[11:12] <nixiepixel> Is there an ubuntu server channel?
[11:12] <bazhang> #ubuntu-server
[11:12] <stevecam> is there gonna be any new PPC releases of ubuntu?
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[11:13] <nixiepixel> Thanks, that makes sense ;)
[11:13] <sydneyguy> Did Apple dropped PPC support in their upcoming Snow Leopard
[11:13] <jjibn> and is that from the software source directly
[11:13] <nixiepixel> Has anyone figured out how to get fuppes transcoding-on-the-fly working with an XBox 360?
[11:13] <spiff74> sydneyguy: yeah, no more PPC support from apple..
[11:14] <bazhang> sydneyguy, ask in the appropriate channel
[11:14]  * dROg I am so high...i can hear heaven....oh but heaven....no heaven don't hear me....
[11:14] <genelisp> ok,  I am getting gpg errors on apt-get update but I can't update keys because I have NODATA 2 for 'key' - how can I solve this?
[11:14] <XCP> hi. I created an application launcher and entered as the command "command parameter" ... now, is there a way to change the current working directory to a specific directory before invoking command? I know it's possible with a script, but is it also possible with a desktop app launcher?
[11:14] <sydneyguy> So guys .. what shall I choose no configuration or Internet site for my Ubuntu Server installation for mail
[11:14] <bazhang> !gpgerr | genelisp
[11:14] <whatvn> dROg, can I see your heaven ? :p
[11:14] <sydneyguy> I am at the Postfix configuration
[11:15] <genelisp> bazhang:  these are ubuntu repos
[11:15] <jjibn> thx
[11:15] <genelisp> bazhang: not custom ones - from oldreleases though
[11:15] <ShockF> nixie you still here
[11:15] <rob_p> sydneyguy, What will it's role be?
[11:15] <bazhang> genelisp, what version of ubuntu
[11:16] <genelisp> bazhang: gutsy 7.10
[11:16] <whatvn> gutsy is out of day
[11:16] <bazhang> genelisp, and you wish to upgrade to which version, as that is end of life
[11:16] <genelisp> bazhang: I am not upgrading
[11:16] <guntbert> sydneyguy: it *might* be a good idea to take that to #ubuntu-server :)
[11:17] <bazhang> genelisp, that is end of life and no longer supported
[11:17] <sydneyguy> I am just learning ... but .. I am planning in the future to provide web hosting and mail services
[11:17] <sydneyguy> Common guys relax
[11:18] <guntbert> sydneyguy: what I wanted to say: support for insatlling an configuring servers is beyond the range of *this* channel, but there is #ubuntu-server
[11:18] <guntbert> *installing
[11:18] <genelisp> bazhang: can I easily upgrade to 9?
[11:18] <sydneyguy> ok
[11:18] <jrib> XCP: you probably need to do something like bash -c "blah blah blah"
[11:18] <ShockF> guntbert can you help me with mounting my vista partition so its viewable in ubuntu
[11:18] <rob_p> sydneyguy, The answer to that question in the installer will merely affect the configuration file options for postfix.  Therefore, if you are just learning to get familiar with it, choose either.
[11:18] <bazhang> !upgrade | genelisp read this
[11:18] <XCP> jrib: trying that, thank you
[11:19] <guntbert> ShockF: sorry, no - never used vista
[11:19] <Sensiva> Hello all, I am confused which file system to use for my Ubuntu partitions (partition for installation and another one to host my home folder) any ideas? I am using 64bit platform
[11:19] <ShockF> oh ok
[11:19] <JEEB> Has anyone here tried ubuntu on a Sharp D4? Just interested in the current things with the intel onboard and touchscreen with it :3
[11:19] <rob_p> sydneyguy, ...but yeah, it's a little beyond the scope of what this channel was designed for.
[11:19] <jrib> Sensiva: ext3 or ext4
[11:19] <XCP> jrib: but according to the man pages that does not solve the problem with the current working directory.
[11:20] <ShockF> can any one help ,e
[11:20] <jrib> XCP: why?
[11:20] <ShockF> me with mounting my vista partition
[11:20] <XCP> jrib: because the working directory remains the same as the one the command is invoked from
[11:20] <myxo> could anyone reference me the name of a software for capturing video in games like WoW
[11:20] <znh> Sensiva, do you have specific needs?
[11:20] <jrib> XCP: sure, but you can use 'cd blah; command', no?
[11:20] <Sensiva> jrib is there a webpage that describes ur decision in details plz?
[11:21] <Sensiva> znh special needs like what?
[11:21] <jrib> Sensiva: not that I am aware of.  Check:
[11:21] <jrib> !install > Sensiva
[11:21] <znh> Sensiva, encryption.. Hey you're supposed to tell me
[11:21]  * znh laughs
[11:22] <sydneyguy> ok ..
[11:22] <XCP> jrib: not with gnome app launchers
[11:22] <orion76> hello again now sound card 5.1 c-media older
[11:22] <Sensiva> znh I only run office, my own FTP small server for my friends, read books, watch movies, most of my files are really big (4GB)
[11:22] <spiff74> Im trying to open a configuration file with gedit, but I guess I have to open it as root to be able to edit it.. It says I dont have the rights to open with my normal user. Is there a way to change user for gedt in the GUI, or must I open it through the terminal?
[11:22] <XCP> jrib: the ones you get by right clicking on the desktop and choosing create launcher
[11:22] <jrib> XCP: i'm not in gnome to try it, but what did you try?
[11:22] <guntbert> !gksudo | spiff74
[11:23] <znh> Sensiva, Ext3 is what i'd recommend for stability. Reiserfs for speed
[11:23] <XCP> jrib: I tried to add the launcher and as the command I entered "cd blah; command blah2" ... then it complains about not finding cd.
[11:23] <spiff74> thanks guntbert and ubottu! :)
[11:23] <Sensiva> How unstable is Reiserfs ?
[11:23] <ringo999> where does ubuntu store keyboard configuration?
[11:23] <iceroot> Sensiva: its stable
[11:23] <ShockF> any body know how i can make my vista partition mountable so its viewable in ubuntu
[11:24] <iceroot> Sensiva: but i think its stopped
[11:24] <sydneyguy> I managed to ssh to ubuntu out of the box .. I did not need to install anything to be able to connect to it.. good thing
[11:24] <sydneyguy> Live long Ubuntu
[11:24] <Sensiva> Thank you all, another question plz
[11:24] <guntbert> sydneyguy: nice :)
[11:25] <Data_Storm> sydneyguy you disabled root login of the sshd deamon tho didnt you?
[11:25] <Sensiva> I want to move my current home directory to another partition, is there any confs I should alter?
[11:25] <nixiepixel> sydneyguy, didn't you have to install OpenSSH first?
[11:25] <sydneyguy> Data_Stor: No .. I did not have to install anything
[11:25] <sydneyguy> But..
[11:25] <guntbert> nixiepixel: sydneyguy  is on server...
[11:25] <sydneyguy> When I installedthe server I checked all servers
[11:25] <Data_Storm> for security reasons you should disable root access and sudo or su to root
[11:26] <ShockF> nixie do you want to have another go at trying to mount
[11:26] <sydneyguy> Oooppsss .. I get ur point.. I am talking about the ubuntu server I am installing
[11:26] <sydneyguy> Sorry guys for the confusion
[11:26] <jrib> XCP: wfm.  Paste exactly what you ran
[11:27] <guntbert> Data_Storm: sudo is the preferred method (or gksudo), *not* su
[11:27] <halfie> Doees running partprobe ensure that subsequent runs of fdisk/parted/testdisk will see the new partition table?
[11:28] <XCP> jrib: cd ~; kalarm ... it says "Details: Failed to execute child process "cd" (No such file or directory)"
[11:28]  * Data_Storm carries on eating his chicken and bacon sandwhich
[11:28] <Data_Storm> wiff cheese! :P
[11:28] <sydneyguy> o u r eating two dead animals
[11:28] <bazhang> !ot > Data_Storm
[11:28] <iceroot> sydneyguy: for learning linux and server-management a LAMP is a good idea, postfix is an overkill for learning
[11:29] <jrib> XCP: verify it works in a shell
[11:29] <iceroot> sydneyguy: set up an apache mysql php server and install phpmyadmin and learn how to config things
[11:29] <sydneyguy> really
[11:29] <jrib> XCP: wait.  You mean you did: bash -c "cd ~; kalarm", right?
[11:29] <nixiepixel> ShockF Sure, but you are probably out of my league now, I'm new. Maybe start Nautilus as root and try to mount it from there?
[11:29] <TehFlash> i typed in vim on terminal and the text editor opens, but then i cant type anything, what do i do to get it to work
[11:29] <ShazbotMcNasty> I recently hooked up my xbox 360 to my monitor, to use the xbox I turn off the computer and start the xbox, but I was wondering if there's a way to have the computer on at the same time and just make the monitor switch focus from the computer to the box and back... any ideas?
[11:30] <haffe> ShazbotMcNasty: How many inputs do you have on the monitor?
[11:30] <mib> hi.i recently lost my Workspace..currently i cant see any default workspace other than one.please help me how could i retrieve back
[11:30] <iceroot> sydneyguy: if it is working, try setting up a network printer with cups or use sharing with samba, but trust me, postfix is very very very hard (but sendmail is harder)
[11:30] <cankoy> Sensiva: I suggest you create a new user with $HOME on new partition, then cp $HOME/* of current user to there, login, and see what works/breaks.
[11:30] <ShazbotMcNasty> two
[11:30] <haffe> VGA and DVI?
[11:30] <haffe> Or DVI and DVI?
[11:31] <ShazbotMcNasty> haffe vga and dvi
[11:31] <haffe> Ok.
[11:31] <haffe> You could if you wanted hook the Xbox up to the DVI and your computer to the VGA.
[11:31] <haffe> Or get a DVIswitch.
[11:32] <ShazbotMcNasty> the xbox is hooked up to vga
[11:32] <FloodBot1> NOTICE - If you couldn't speak to the channel during the past minutes, please try again now.
[11:33] <mib> hi
[11:33] <cankoy> mib: right click workspace switcher applet, Prefs > add workspace
[11:33] <guntbert> was that a bot-race?
[11:33] <ringo999> how do i restart the xserver?
[11:33] <mib> where is worskpace switcher applet?
[11:33] <jrib> ringo999: sudo service gdm restart
[11:33] <mib> cankoy: where is worshpae switcher applet?
[11:33] <FloodBot1> NOTICE - If you couldn't speak to the channel during the past minutes, please try again now.
[11:33] <iceroot> ringo999: ctrl + alt + backspace
[11:33] <sydneyguy> What is the best way to learn them?
[11:33] <cankoy> mib: on the panel
[11:33] <ringo999> or do i just need to logout/login in order to get new keyboard settings to take effect?
[11:33] <mib> cankoy:now i cany see any other panel than the current working space
[11:34] <bazhang> !dontzap | iceroot ringo999
[11:34] <ShazbotMcNasty> haffe - they are both currently hooked up and working, but I was just wondering if there was a way to swith between the two without turning off the computer.
[11:34] <iceroot> bazhang: its disabled?
[11:34] <bazhang> iceroot, as of jaunty yes
[11:34] <iceroot> bazhang: ah ok, just using hardy
[11:35] <mib> i can only right click on the current planel and see Preferences.
[11:35] <mib> and I have Behavior and Size tab
[11:35] <jjibn> thx before but I still can't install the file of bash,becasue I can't on net under the ubuntu after I erased the file of bash
[11:35] <jjibn> who knows what  can I do
[11:35] <haffe> ShazbotMcNasty: Don't you have a button to select an input on your monitor?
[11:36] <jjibn> or just drop me a  file of bash in teh directory of bin
[11:36] <ohir> jjibn: boot live cd, mount your / filesystem and restore bash
[11:37] <mib> anyone could help me with the workspace???
[11:37] <ShazbotMcNasty> haffe, not that i know of...
[11:37] <indus_> anyidea if ubuntu devs plan to add a downgrade option in ubuntu
[11:37] <jjibn> I am sorry there is no cd-rom hardware in my Pc  it is so pity so if that what.....
[11:37] <bazhang> !brainstorm > indus_
[11:37] <nixiepixel> ShockF - When you did sudo mount did you get an error message?
[11:38] <luca> hello room
[11:38] <jjibn> and does there exist a file of bash in the iso of ubuntu?
[11:38] <ShockF> cant rember shall i try it again
[11:38] <xre> Join #quaket.net@Quakenet
[11:39] <indus_> bazhang: thanks,but i think it might be too difficult resource wise
[11:39] <Myrtti> xre: no spamming
[11:40] <bazhang> indus_, then please discuss in #ubuntu-offtopic thanks
[11:40] <mib> anyone knows how to reenable to view back the multiple workspaces in ubuntu?
[11:40] <nixiepixel> ShockF - sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda3 /mnt/ntfs
[11:40] <indus_> bazhang: its not off topic
[11:40] <indus_> nvm
[11:40] <jjibn> no boday knows?
[11:41] <starnet> haluo
[11:41] <shashwatpns> how do i see the desktop cube whats the shortcut(from keyboard of couse)
[11:41] <shashwatpns> ??????????????????????
[11:41] <nixiepixel> CTRL-ALT-MOUSE1
[11:41] <bazhang> shashwatpns, install ccsm
[11:41] <mib> why no one answering me:(
[11:42] <shashwatpns> bazhang whts ccsm?
[11:42] <ShockF> yh i get an erro
[11:42] <ShockF> error
what is that?
[11:42] <bazhang> !ccsm > shashwatpns
[11:42] <Data_Storm> mib what desktop are your using
[11:42] <jjibn> and me
[11:42] <Winball> ???????????????????????
[11:42] <mib> Data_storm: you mean pc brand?
[11:42] <Data_Storm> no I mean what desktop, KDE, gnome?
[11:42] <jjibn> some body  knows
[11:42] <nixiepixel> Sorry, that was to shashwapns - the shortcut for desktop cube (once you have enabled it) to begin rotation is CTRL-ALT-MOUSE1
[11:42] <mib> gnome
[11:42] <skapning> I have a bitmapped font, how do I install it so that I can use it with gnome terminal?
[11:42] <bazhang> jjibn, what about sudo apt-get install bash
[11:43] <Data_Storm> @mib its usually in the preferances under desktop settings right click
[11:43] <mib> desktop?right click?
[11:43] <Data_Storm> multiple desktops..
the point is that I can't dail on net under ubuntu,so the command maybe doesn't work
[11:44] <bazhang> jjibn, no internet connection?
[11:45] <mib> on PLaces->Desktop ?
yeah
[11:45] <skapning> anyone?
[11:45] <skapning> I have a bitmapped font, how do I install it so that I can use it with gnome terminal?
[11:45] <bazhang> jjibn, how are you connecting here
[11:45] <Data_Storm> not sure @ mib everyones desktop is differant
[11:46] <Data_Storm> but the option to enable more than one is in the preferences somewhere..
[11:46]  * skapning facepalms
after I erase the file of bin,it couldn't on internet again.I checked but it doesn't work.
I used another OS
[11:46] <mib> i couldnt figure it out
[11:46] <nixiepixel> Data_Storm, mib - in compizconfig-settings-manager the option to add multiple desktops is under General Options
[11:47] <jjibn> but that is another problem
[11:47] <jjibn> :)
[11:47] <skapning> bazhang: want to install a *.fon bitmapped font, where does it go, and do I just fc-cache -fv?
[11:48] <bazhang> jjibn, you erased everything in /usr/bin ?
[11:48] <ShockF> nixie i still get the same chkdsk error
not really,just the file of bash,I said that before
[11:49] <nixiepixel> ShockF - you are getting a chkdsk error when trying to mount at the command line?
[11:49] <ShockF> yup
[11:49] <nixiepixel> Ok, one last thing, try this:
[11:49] <nixiepixel> sudo mount -t ntfs-3g -f /dev/sda3 /mnt/ntfs
[11:49] <shashwatpns> how do you see a cube in ubuntu
[11:50] <nixiepixel> ShockF - but be careful, you're forcing it to mount
[11:50] <ShockF> kk
[11:50] <nixiepixel> so if you haven't backed up your data, do so before you try that
[11:50] <znh> mm my UI (Gnome) is responding quite slow. I have desktop effects disabled. Any tweaks? I'm using default drivers for my ATi Mobility 9000
[11:50] <ShockF> tbh i dont think ill do that
[11:50] <bazhang> shashwatpns, install ccsm, then enable in settings, activate
[11:50] <brennon> have they worked out 3D accel. issues with VIA/S3 integrated chipsets yet?
[11:50] <ShockF> as tht whole partition is an os and it has loads of important things on
[11:50] <bazhang> jjibn, why not hook ethernet to that computer and try to install it
[11:51] <naxa> i have a hard disk drive image "hdd.img". i think it also contains the mbr so it's a full image... I don't know how to mount it. in "fdisk hdd.img" i can see that there is a fat16 partition on it (the file is 80mb). but I don't know how to mount it (bypass mbr, does ubuntu handle fat16?)
[11:51] <shashwatpns> its activated bazhang i dont know how to see it
[11:51] <brennon> I have this gateway MX3215 here and it's chugging with 9.04
[11:51] <imperfect-> Anyone know what tehe deal is with keyserver.ubuntu.com ?
[11:51] <bazhang> shashwatpns, is compiz enabled?
[11:51] <shashwatpns> yes bazhang
[11:52] <bazhang> shashwatpns, also did you set to 4 sides instead of only two? in general settings (ccsm)
[11:52] <shashwatpns> yes
[11:52] <nixiepixel> ShockF - I understand, you should not do anything like that unless you have a full backup.  For anything else you'll need help from somebody else, sorry, you're at the limit of my knowledge here.
[11:52] <bazhang> shashwatpns, just a second let me enable mine
[11:52] <ShockF> ok thanks any way
[11:53] <shashwatpns> bazhang i just want the key
[11:53] <ShockF> u know the apt-get install update and then apt-get ntfs thing and then the gksudo thing do you know that way of mounting ?
[11:54] <jrib> ShockF: what?
[11:54] <ShockF> jrib : gartral showed me a way yesterday tht was using that method
[11:55] <jrib> ShockF: what you said is incredibly difficult to parse
[11:55] <ShockF> jrib oh
u mean setup the ethernet again?
[11:56] <nixiepixel> jrib - ShockF is looking to mount an NTFS drive, and someone told him to update first, then install an ntfs package (not sure which one), then use gksudo to do something, maybe to load Nautilus.
[11:57] <bazhang> shashwatpns, set 3d cube checked, active rotate cube checked then control alt left mouse drag
[11:58] <bazhang> shashwatpns, also control alt left arrow will work
[11:58] <bazhang> jjibn, yes
[11:59] <Schnitz> hi all
[11:59] <Schnitz> yesterday my wireless lan stopped working...i don't know why
[11:59] <Schnitz> i still get an IP from dhcp
[11:59] <Schnitz> but i can't ping my wireless router
[11:59] <Schnitz> nor something outside
[12:00] <Schnitz> the interface is up, ip address assigned, routes are configured
[12:00] <Myrtti> Schnitz: so what did you do yesterday?
[12:00] <Schnitz> Myrtti: came home...changed nothing (of course)
[12:00] <Schnitz> somebody else can use my wireless network without trouble
[12:00] <C-S-B_> Schnitz: have you tried a networking restart
[12:00] <Schnitz> C-S-B_: i restarted the whole notebook
[12:01] <ajitam> hi I'm try to put up a svn server...
[12:01] <C-S-B_> Schnitz: the service on the pc?
[12:01] <C-S-B_> Schnitz: can you resolve?
[12:01] <Schnitz> C-S-B_: dns is also dead
[12:01] <ajitam> 1. question: is there any other repositori program better than svn ?
[12:01] <Schnitz> network connection just feels like "not connected"
[12:02] <C-S-B_> Schnitz: can you ping localhost?
[12:02] <Schnitz> but ip gets assigned by the router
[12:02] <Schnitz> C-S-B_: yes
[12:02] <ajitam> because mine is working super slow
[12:02] <jrib> ajitam: bzr, darcs, git, mercurial, ...
[12:02] <Schnitz> C-S-B_: i can also ping my own ip address (which got assigned by dhcp)
[12:02] <bazhang> shashwatpns, you did do alt f2 compiz --replace as well?
[12:02] <C-S-B_> Schnitz: can you assign a static address and test?
[12:03] <ajitam> jrib:  do you recommend anyone
[12:03] <Schnitz> C-S-B_: i'll try
[12:03] <Schnitz> C-S-B_: right now i'm online with the same notebook using the wired interface
[12:03] <Schnitz> that one is working fine
[12:03] <jrib> ajitam: i like all of them.  Try them out and see if you prefer one over the other.  bzr is used in launchpad if that's important to you
[12:03] <C-S-B_> what chipset/driver are you using?
[12:04] <Schnitz> 0b:02.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 2915ABG [Calexico2] Network Connection (rev 05)
[12:04] <niez> hi
[12:04] <niez> i've just installet new ubuntu, and xinerama stopped working
[12:04] <C-S-B_> Schnitz: after everything, do a sudo service networking restart
[12:05] <niez> i can;t configure it right no more
[12:05] <indus_> niez: run cinerama from terminal
[12:05] <ShockF> if i wanted to uninstall linux and start over again to reinstall it how would i do that just delete the ubuntu partition
[12:05] <Schnitz> C-S-B_: ok
[12:05] <erUSUL> ShockF: yep
[12:05] <Schnitz> C-S-B_: wait a minute, now i will check if it's working with another static address
[12:06] <bazhang> niez, dual screens or one big screen
[12:06] <nixiepixel> ShockF yes, if you just want to reinstall with the CD, but if you want to load Vista before you've reinstalled Ubuntu (and grub) you'll have to repair the Vista bootloader
[12:06] <ShockF> erusul but grub is my bootloader so would my vista partition still load
[12:06] <shashwatpns> banzhang: sometime before i accidently started the cube,the prob is just that which key i pressed
[12:06] <Schnitz> frag me...
[12:06] <ShockF> so i stick in my vista cd and click repair
[12:06] <Schnitz> if i change to another address than the one assigned by dhcp....it's working
[12:07] <erUSUL> ShockF: no you will have to boot with a windws cd into recvery console and run « fixmbr »
[12:07] <bazhang> shashwatpns, try alt f2 compiz --replace
[12:07] <Schnitz> should have bought a wireless router for more than 20 bucks maybe hehe
[12:07] <niez> bazhang, one big screen, I had before debian etch, everything has worked ok
[12:07] <Schnitz> C-S-B_: thanks for the hint....do you have any idea why this could be?
[12:08] <ShockF> kk
[12:08] <shashwatpns> k thanks bazhang, butb i cant try it now as im not on ubuntu,thanks once again
[12:08] <niez> indus_, cinerama?
[12:08] <Gaskin> #sguni
[12:08] <ekaj> hi
[12:09] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo niez seen this?
[12:09] <Gaskin> how to join other irc server?
[12:10] <niez> bazhang, yes
[12:11] <iceroot> Gaskin: /connect servername
[12:11] <iceroot> Gaskin: with irssi
[12:11] <C-S-B_> Schnitz: are you sure theres not another device on the network with the same address?
[12:11] <naxa> anyone knows how to play audio cds in audacious in 9.04?
[12:11] <fccf-virt> gaskin: or /server irc.server.com
[12:12] <apparle> I wanted to goto kubuntu plz tell me how to
[12:12] <apparle> I have been redirected here from mibbit
[12:12] <apparle> plzzzz
[12:12] <fccf-virt> apparle: have you installed kubuntu-desktop
[12:12] <C-S-B_> apparle:  just install the kde packages
[12:12] <Schnitz> C-S-B_: already checked that
[12:13] <fuxartige33> hi folks, that's http://sunoano.name/ws/public_xhtml/debian_notes_cheat_sheets.html Debian but then imho pretty cool to have a look at for ubuntu users too :-)
[12:13] <C-S-B_> well id blame the settings your router is giving out for dhcp
[12:13] <fccf-virt> apparle: after that at your login screen goto options > select session ... KDE and login and you are in
[12:13] <cankoy> naxa: install audacious-plugins
[12:14] <C-S-B_> Schnitz: what address do you get when you are assigned by DHCP and what did you assign as static? do they work if you manually set the same as the dhcp?
[12:14] <apparle> I didn't want to come to #ubuntu I am using mibbit and I 've been redirected here. I want to goto #kubuntu. I just can't go there
[12:14] <naxa> cankoy, i have "CD audio plugin", but how to open the cd???
[12:15] <C-S-B_> .. /j #kubuntu?
[12:15] <fccf-virt> apparle: happy to help you
[12:16] <blind|melon|chit> Anyone know offhand if Canonical has made any announcements regarding whether or not they'll be switching to eglibc similar to Debian?
[12:16] <apparle> fccf-virt: I am using mibbit.com and when I connect to #kubuntu I am redirected to #ubuntu-proxy-users plz help
[12:16] <blind|melon|chit> I've been looking around but haven't been able to find anything official :>
[12:17] <apparle> fccf: I am using mibbit.com and when I connect to #kubuntu I am redirected to #ubuntu-proxy-users plz help
[12:18] <fccf> apparle: reccommend using a real irc client .. you cannot use a proxy with #kubuntu .. mobbit acts as a proxy .. though I can help you get going if you like
[12:18] <indus_> niez: CINERELLA
[12:18] <TheFunkbomb> why am I up so early?
[12:18] <bazhang> http://wiki.debian.org/XStrikeForce/HowToRandR12 niez
[12:18] <yewk> TheFunkbomb, how old are you?
[12:18] <bazhang> TheFunkbomb, ??
[12:18] <TheFunkbomb> wrong chan my bad
[12:18] <indus_> niez: oops xinerama
[12:18] <apparle> fccf: IRC protocol is blocked in my college so I don't have anyother option
[12:19] <Firefishe> in Kubuntu 9.04, how can I cause nm-applet--the system tray interface to Network Manger--to start up when logging in to kde?
[12:19] <fccf> apparle: oic - can I help you get kubuntu going then?
[12:19] <un|matrix> apparle: is that some kind of a nazi college?
[12:20] <FrozenFire> Is there an easy way to grab only the hash part of sha256sum's output? I'm trying to have a simple one-liner that along the lines of "zenity --info --text=`zenity --entry --text="String to Hash" | sha256sum`"
[12:20] <fccf> un|matrix: fact is most colleges block traffic on their network
[12:20] <apparle> fccf: plz
[12:20] <un|matrix> not mine
[12:20] <logankoester> What's a fast way to generate a few gigs of garbage data?
[12:20] <FrozenFire> However, sha256sum outputs in the form of "[hash] [filename]"
[12:20] <FrozenFire> logankoester: /dev/zero or /dev/urandom
[12:20] <wrchiu> ??
[12:20] <apparle> un|matrix: No our college has blocked all the P2P protocols
[12:21] <fccf> apparle: see my private message
[12:21] <logankoester> How would I go about filling a file to a specific size from /dev/urandom FrozenFire?
[12:21] <FrozenFire> logankoester: dd
[12:21] <wWales> cankoy: hi again, had any new ideas on the 800x600 resolution problem? :)
[12:22] <FrozenFire> dd if=/dev/urandom of=/path/to/file bs=1024 count=somenumber
[12:22] <rameshwo> hello.. just testing..
[12:22] <logankoester> Heh, why was my first thought diskdruid when you said dd
[12:22] <logankoester> Thanks man :)
[12:22] <logankoester> I'll manpage it
[12:22] <martin-de-1983> Hi, I tried using umtsmon; I get an error message: "umtsmon: error while loading shared libraries: libqt-mt.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"
[12:22] <Firefishe> apparle: although irc is not, by defintion, p2p, it does have some instances of file-serving of songs and such, which may explain your particular college's policies.  However, that said, keeping college students from IRC is about the dumbest thing I've ever heard! ;-)  Especially programming students.
[12:23] <FrozenFire> logankoester: Be sure to keep in mind that bs is the block size, which should be set so that you aren't copying a single byte at a time.
[12:23] <FrozenFire> And count is finalsize/bs
[12:23] <Administrator__> Hello?
[12:23] <FrozenFire> Howdy
[12:23] <logankoester> okay
[12:23] <yewk> Hi
[12:23] <logankoester> thanks
[12:23] <Joshua_Mayer> Hey.
[12:23] <apparle> Firefishe: Ifonly our college authorities understood this
[12:23] <martin-de-1983> libqt2-mt is installed, any ideas what to do?
[12:23] <Joshua_Mayer> I have a quick question for anyone to answer.
[12:23] <FrozenFire> Joshua_Mayer: Ask away ;)
[12:24] <Firefishe> apparle: ubuntu-offtopic might be better for extended convo on this subject...this *is* the help channel
[12:24] <apparle> Firefishe: sorry
[12:24] <Firefishe> apparle: no, not at all.  It's just courtesy for the channel....or pm me.
[12:25] <Joshua_Mayer> I am installing ubuntu on my laptop, and it the laptop was designed for Windows XP, so all the drivers for Graphics card, wireless card etc are for Windows. How can I get the wireless card to work on ubuntu?
[12:25] <wWales> i have a wierd problem in 800x600 resolution, the bottom half of my screen is outside the monitor  :/ native 1440x900 works fine, but some apps rew 800x600
[12:25] <FrozenFire> Joshua_Mayer: Does it not work "out of the box?"
[12:25] <Joshua_Mayer> What do you mean "out of the box'?
[12:25] <cankoy> wWales: since you're using the proprietary nvidia drv, I suggest you visit http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=13
[12:25] <Joshua_Mayer> You mean on a fresh install?
[12:25] <wWales> ok can
[12:25] <FrozenFire> Normally Ubuntu includes drivers for major wireless cards
[12:25] <dragoon`> anyone running zimbra on ubuntu 9.04 server?
[12:26] <FrozenFire> Joshua_Mayer: What's the wireless card model?
[12:26] <dragoon`> fresh install
[12:26] <Joshua_Mayer> I'll find out. Hang on...
[12:27] <cyphase> is it just me, or is gnome-system-monitor in need of some work?
[12:28] <FrozenFire> cyphase: I recommend top, or ps
[12:28] <cyphase> FrozenFire: yea, i know, thats what i use
[12:28] <cyphase> FrozenFire: still though
[12:28] <ircnickiuse> Hi, using ubuntu server 8.04 - how can I setup resumable vnc or gdm sessions? I've found a lot of guides using 'set remote desktop sharing' and one which says it is out of date now...
[12:29] <ircnickiuse> Also, I want to run x sessions in 1920 resolution, do you think I should use gdm, vnc or some nx protocol?
[12:29] <logankoester> I've replaced a 50gb volume with a 100gb one, but the system still thinks it's 50gb and full - what am I missing?
[12:30] <apparle> who controls this channel??
[12:30] <erUSUL> apparle: ubuntu irc council
[12:30] <logankoester> I didn't change it's mountpoint or anything
[12:30] <logankoester> just swapped the volumes, unmounted and remounted
[12:31] <logankoester> New volume is represented by the same file in /dev
[12:31] <jrib> apparle: why?
[12:31] <Joshua_Mayer> The wireless card is a Dell Wireless 1350 WLAN Mini-PCI Card.
[12:31] <Joshua_Mayer> Will that work with ubuntu?
[12:31] <apparle> I am using http://mibbit.com and I want to connect to #kubuntu but I am redirected to #ubuntu-proxy-users
[12:32] <blip-> ~gpgerr
[12:32] <blip-> !gpgerr
[12:32] <jrib> apparle: try #ubuntu-ops
[12:32] <nixiepixel> ubottu I love you.
[12:32] <Joshua_Mayer> FrozenFire: Will Dell Wireless 1350 WLAN Mini-PCI Card work?
[12:32] <arian> hallo
[12:33] <ekaj> ubottu
[12:33] <ekaj> ubottu love
[12:34] <Joshua_Mayer> Will a Dell Wireless 1350 WLAN Mini-PCI Card work?
[12:34] <blip-> ubottu: gpgerr
[12:34] <blip-> ah
[12:34] <logankoester> Did you guys understand my question? I'm not sure it was completely clear
[12:34] <FrozenFire> Joshua_Mayer: I believe https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/Broadcom_BCM4311_rev_01_(ndiswrapper)?highlight=(WifiDocs%2FDevice) may be of some assistance.
[12:34] <Joshua_Mayer> I'll take a look. Thanks.
[12:35] <Joshua_Mayer> Ah! I am new to linux, so that is confusing for me :
[12:35] <Joshua_Mayer> :(
[12:35] <FrozenFire> You might try first hooking it up via wired internet, and using the Hardware Drivers tool to try to find an ndiswrapper driver
[12:36] <Bacta> Hello everyone
[12:36] <FrozenFire> System->Administration->Hardware Drivers
[12:36] <Bacta> Good to be back
[12:36] <Joshua_Mayer> Thanks! I'll hook it up to the wired and run that tool. What happens if it doesn't find the driver?
[12:36] <amee2k> what code name is 9.04 again?
[12:36] <cyphase> jaunty jackalope
[12:37] <amee2k> ah
[12:37] <amee2k> thanks
[12:37] <cyphase> or just jaunty for shot :)
[12:37] <cyphase> short*
[12:37] <amee2k> hehe
[12:37] <Bacta> What does jaunty mean?
[12:37] <FrozenFire> Joshua_Mayer: If it doesn't work, then you might ask another person for some help. I'm not familiar with that card, nor the process for setting up ndiswrapper drivers manually.
[12:37] <rameshwo> any meaning of jaunty jackalope ????
[12:37] <amee2k> i keep wondering why i can't call it 9.04
[12:37] <amee2k> works for other projects too
[12:37] <amee2k> why do we need to do it redmond style
[12:38] <cyphase> ?
[12:38] <mrvdv> how can i install sshd because its saying i dont have it and if i try to get it it says cant find it
[12:38] <Joshua_Mayer> Ah, ok. I know a few linux people so I'll ask them if I need help.
[12:38] <Joshua_Mayer> Ubuntu can be used in a dual boot, can't it?
[12:38] <cyphase> yes, it can
[12:38] <amee2k> granted, ubuntu versions don't have names nearly as stupid as ME, XP, Vista or meaningless non-sequential numbers
[12:38] <cadu> mrvdv: i think the package name in debians/ubuntus is openssh-server
[12:39] <cadu> mrvdv: apt-get install openssh-server will do the trick, iirc.
[12:39] <amee2k> names as*
[12:39] <mrvdv> i tried that
[12:39] <Firefishe> How do I set up kde (Jaunty 9.04) to start nm-applet at startup?
[12:39] <cyphase> mrvdv: try apt-get install ssh
[12:39] <fennng> is it possible for me to view pdf document in console?
[12:40] <nixiepixel> Joshua_Mayer - many wireless cards are supported directly during installation, so hopefully yours is one of those, but www.ubuntuforums.org is a great place to ask as well, and yes you can dual boot
[12:40] <Mik__> Люди!
[12:40] <Mik__> может кто-нить помочь?
[12:40] <Myrtti> !ru | Mik__
[12:40] <mrvdv> still says it cant find it
[12:40] <Joshua_Mayer> Awesome! Thanks nixiepixel and FrozenFire!
[12:40] <mrvdv> wait up ill try and update ubuntu
[12:40] <mrvdv> cause i just isntalled it
[12:41] <nixiepixel> Joshua_mayer - I made a short video tutorial on installing Ubuntu to dual-boot, hopefully it can help you - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhnLk3gviWY
[12:41] <trident523> fennng: see http://lightlinux.blogspot.com/2008/09/howto-read-pdf-files-in-console.html
[12:41] <zoka> irc://chat.tportal.hr:7000/
[12:41] <zoka> fak
[12:41] <Myrtti> zoka: no spamming
[12:42] <Myrtti> and no cursing.
[12:42] <zoka> myrttu non e spam
[12:42] <zoka> a tray cange server
[12:42] <Mik__> прива всем
[12:42] <mrvdv> how do i have my ubuntu update any new packags
[12:43] <Myrtti> Mik__: /join #ubuntu-ru
[12:43] <indus_> mrvdv: manually update from update manager
[12:43] <trident523> mrvdv: system -> admin -> update manager.
[12:43] <mrvdv> ty
[12:43] <indus_> mrvdv: jaunty update doesnt seem to work for me
[12:44] <FrozenFire> Is there a way to make panel shortcuts for complex bash commands, without using an external file?
[12:44] <kalon33> ubottu: !ru > Mik__
[12:44] <trident523> Firefishe: have you tried KNetworkManager?
[12:44] <FrozenFire> I want to have a panel application launcher for "zenity --info --text=`zenity --entry --text="String to Hash" |tr -d '\n'|sha256sum|cut -b -64`"
[12:44] <matrixblue> is that THE nixiepixel?
[12:44] <fennng> trident523: Thank you!
[12:44] <trident523> FrozenFire: Do you want to see output... or just run it?
[12:45] <FrozenFire> trident523: Just want to run it, as it'll launch zenity (A gui applet)
[12:45] <trident523> FrozenFire: You can create a custom application launcher which runs that command.
[12:46] <Joshua_Mayer> So if I install Ubuntu off the CD, it will make GRUB the bootloader so I can choose which OS to boot?
[12:46] <FrozenFire> trident523: Doesn't seem to work.
[12:46] <Mik__> people
[12:46] <nixiepixel> matrixblue - uhh.. as far as I know I'm the only one?
[12:46] <kalon33> !ru
[12:46] <Mik__> advise me please
[12:46] <blip-> hi all,  I'm suddenly having a strange problem when I try to do apt-get update, a BADSIG, I've tried changing the mirror as well as retrieving a GPG key as ubottu instructed me, but no luck:   W: GPG error: http://security.ubuntu.com intrepid-security Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key
[12:46] <FrozenFire> trident523: It doesn't seem to like the complex nature. I believe it just wants a single command, with its switches at most.
[12:46] <matrixblue> nixiepixel, cool I'm a huge fan. Keep up the good work :)
[12:46] <blip-> I don't understand what is so bad about this sig 40976EAF437D05B5 ....
[12:46] <naxa> audacious crossfade in 9.04, anyone?
[12:46] <FrozenFire> I don't believe application launchers run the command through bash
[12:46] <nixiepixel> matrixblue - thanks!
[12:47] <Joshua_Mayer> if I install Ubuntu off the CD, it will make GRUB the bootloader so I can choose which OS to boot?
[12:47] <Seal> afternoon all
[12:47] <trident523> FrozenFire: Er, I'd just use the external file which would then launch through the terminal, as I personally don't know much about the launcher.
[12:47] <trident523> Joshua_Mayer: yep.
[12:47] <blip-> FrozenFire: some of them give you the option to open a term window as they launch the app
[12:47] <trident523> Joshua_Mayer: as long as you keep a windows partition, and a linux one, it will setup grub.
[12:48] <FrozenFire> blip-: That's not the issue. I just want the command to be run through bash.
[12:48] <cankoy> FrozenFire: ` and | are bash things, so your command should start like "bash -c ..."
[12:48] <ShockF> hey i have a big problem
[12:48] <Joshua_Mayer> Cool. Do I need to make a partion for Ubuntu to install to, or can ubuntu make one during the install?
[12:48] <ShockF> how do i fix the mbr from the windows cd
[12:48] <nixiepixel> Joshua_Mayer - yes, grub will find your existing operating system and when it boots will give you the option to boot to it, though it defaults to Ubuntu
[12:48] <ShockF> nixie howd do i fix the mbr from the cd
[12:48] <Guest94258> Joshua_Mayr ubuntu does it during install
[12:49] <Joshua_Mayer> So do I need to manually make a new partion, or can the ubuntu install give me the option to do it?
[12:49] <trident523> ShockF: Well, two ways. You can re-install linux (easy,) or try to rescue it with another kind of boot disk.
[12:49] <Joshua_Mayer> Ok Cool.
[12:49] <rameshwo> joshua_mayer  just install ubuntu on d:   everything will be fine.. but  your datas in d: will be lost.. so backup them
[12:49] <nixiepixel> Joshua_Mayer - You can let Ubuntu do it, though if you have Vista you should do the partition shrinking in Vista, or there can be occasional problems
[12:49] <Joshua_Mayer> I have Windows XP.
[12:49] <nixiepixel> Then you are safe to do the repartitioning in Ubuntu
[12:49] <Joshua_Mayer> Does that matter?
[12:49] <ShockF> trident what do you mean
[12:49] <Joshua_Mayer> Awesome! Ubuntu looks awesome!
[12:49] <nixiepixel> Yes, Vista can have problems with partition alignment when a linux partition manager is used.
[12:50] <nixiepixel> I suggest making three partitions - / , /home and swap
[12:50] <chathuraw> Can anyone help me in upgrading the Jaunty kernel to 2.6.30?
[12:50] <Alexandra_> Joshua_Mayer yes it is really cool
[12:50] <trident523> chathuraw: Is it in the repos?
[12:50] <Seal> @Joshua_Mayer : the hardest job when installing jaunty is seeing the slider on the right to indicate how much drive space to give ubuntu!
[12:50] <nixiepixel> ShockF - I'm not sure, someone gave you the command above, assuming you are trying to repair your Vista master boot record?
[12:50] <FrozenFire> cankoy: Ah, I had tried that, but some quotes mixed up. That works, thanks.
[12:51] <chathuraw> trident523: i dont think so
[12:51] <nixiepixel> Joshua_Mayer - if you follow my video tutorial you'll have those three partitions, which makes it really easy to reinstall Ubuntu should you have to do it
[12:51] <ShockF> yeh im trying to repair vista mbr so i can remove linux off the system for now
[12:51] <Alexandra_> @Joshua_Mayer If you need some help, let me know
[12:51] <trident523> chathuraw: I give you this warning. "Building and using a custom kernel will make it very difficult to get support for your system.  While it is a learning experience to compile your own kernel, you will not be allowed to file bugs on the custom-built kernel (if you do, they will be Rejected without further explanation)."
[12:51] <Joshua_Mayer> Thanks Alexandra! You'll be here if I need help?
[12:52] <trident523> chathuraw: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile (you'd have to compile the newest one.)
[12:52] <ircnickiuse> I am using ubutnu server - for remote connections I need to install the whole gnome desktop?\
[12:52] <stevecam> how do i log off another user thats not in use
[12:52] <chathuraw> trident523: I know. But I'm sick of this suspend/resume problem on the Jaunty kernel. I can't suspend my laptop :(
[12:52] <ircnickiuse> remote desktop connections that is - what is the best way of installing gnome to I can use it as a session in tightvnc?
[12:52] <trident523> ShockF: If you want to just repair vista MBR... boot into the vista restore partition -> go to the cmd line -> type fixmbr.
[12:53] <trident523> ShockF: This abandons the linux partition though.
[12:53] <stevecam> ircnickiuse, i havnt done it, but i have read that it is possible
[12:53] <kevin_> Is there a way to allow a user to install software via synaptic, but not allow sudo access?
[12:54] <Myrtti> kevin_: not really
[12:54] <trident523> kevin_: Generally no, but they can generate a script that an admin can then use to install software.
[12:54] <chathuraw> trident523: thanks. Will try :)
[12:54] <rameshwo> how long does compiling a kernel take ??
[12:55] <kalon33> kevin_: maybe in the future when synaptic will use PolicyKit, but not know I think
[12:55] <kalon33> *now
[12:55] <rameshwo> it may depend on process but average ???
[12:55] <FrozenFire> Is there a way, from the terminal, to copy text into the clipboard?
[12:55] <Alexandra_> @Joshua_Mayer try and you will see
[12:55] <trident523> kevin_: When you open synaptic without setting a password, they can still select software, and go to file -> generate package script.
[12:55] <Joshua_Mayer> How much diskspace does ubuntu need?
[12:55] <trident523> FrozenFire: shift-control-v/c
[12:55] <trident523> Joshua_Mayer: I'd suggest >8GB for reasonable use.
[12:55] <kevin_> trident523, alright thanks... perhaps that what I will direct them todo
[12:56] <FrozenFire> trident523: Nah, I mean like: echo -n text|gnome-clipboard-set or something
[12:56] <Alexandra_> depens on what you install
[12:56] <synthetiq> anyone get a umts-gprs-hpsda connection working with ubuntu on either a usb stick (with tmobile)  or nokia phone (tmobile or vodafone) ?
[12:56] <kevin_> Thanks all
[12:56] <vaibhav> I upgraded my kernel yesterday  and wireless stopped working, hardware drivers show that broadcom is not activated , and no luck
[12:56] <artti> Hello! Question: does anyone know which mediaplayer supports creating database(mysql, txt) of my music list.
[12:56] <trident523> rameshwo: hours, somewhere in the 4-9.
[12:56] <Zemy_> @synthetiq: I use 3G for internet now
[12:56] <Joshua_Mayer> I have just cleared out about 4gb from my hardrive so now I have 14gb or free space, so I think I have enough.
[12:57] <fccf> synthetiq: I have .
[12:57] <trident523> artti: Amarok always has.
[12:57] <nixiepixel> Joshua_Mayer - how much RAM do you have?
[12:57] <artti> trident523, not amarok2
[12:57] <rameshwo> oo...  i was thinkint to giveit a try but.. if it takes hours //////
[12:57] <Bacta> Is there any way of extracting meta data out of open office files? Do they even store meta data?
[12:57] <trident523> artti: you can always downgrade. :P
[12:57] <Joshua_Mayer> Hmm. I think I have 512.
[12:57] <pvandewyngaerde> Bacta, unzip them and read the xml files
[12:58] <artti> trident523, but anyother?
[12:58] <synthetiq> when i used my nokia  phones, i get complaints with ppp0 that the serial line is looped back, i then removed that check, but still no connection
[12:58] <Bacta> pvandewyngaerde: Will gzip suffice?
[12:58] <fccf> artti: campcaster does a really good job of it .. but right now you'd have to compile form svn
[12:58] <BlackHawk> hi, my fbpanel-menu lists the categories in english, but the program entries in german ... I want both in german ... so how can I get that? (the fbpanel menu creates the entries out of the .desktop files and in these desktop files the categories must have certain (english) names ...)
[12:58] <nixiepixel> Joshua_Mayer - if it turns out you don't have enough space, you may want to try one of the lighter Ubuntu versions, like Xubuntu, or Eeebuntu
[12:58] <pvandewyngaerde> Bacta: dont know, if not try unzip
[12:58] <pARAd0X85> hi
[12:58] <synthetiq> when i usehs0 connect using a umts umta stick, it connects, but only with tmmobiles propetiery stick, but all my packs are reported as filtered
[12:58] <synthetiq> is there anyways to circumvent the packet filetering
[12:59] <stevecam> unzip and gzip are two tottally different things
[12:59] <synthetiq> or somehow get my nokia phones to work?
[12:59] <Zemy_> synthetiq: you'll have to search online to find your answers. Its not always straight forward. I had to do a little voodoo but its up and running now, but it does drop of frequently
[12:59] <Joshua_Mayer> I think I'll have enough space since I am not installing anything new on Windows, and I'm getting another computer soon anyway.
[12:59] <synthetiq> zemy: what exactly are you using
[12:59] <Joshua_Mayer> I have a wierd question. Can Ubuntu be installed on an external harddrive, and then can you boot from it?
[12:59] <trident523> BlackHawk: "First you can check if you have all the translations installed on your system. The gnome packages are "language-pack-gnome-de" and "language-pack-gnome-de-base". The meta package "language-support-de" makes usually sure that all packages are installed."
[12:59] <Zemy_> Skypephone (S!)
[13:00] <trident523> synthetiq: yep. many protocals exist that redirect packets.
[13:00] <pARAd0X85> I am pleased to inform you about the new kernel native support of multitouch events (2.6.30), you can find more information here
[13:00] <pARAd0X85> http://www.lii-enac.fr/en/projects/shareit/linux.html
[13:00] <fccf> woo hoo multitouch
[13:00] <synthetiq> well the umts usb stick i have works with windows
[13:00] <synthetiq> but not with ubuntu
[13:00] <vaibhav> hey I upgraded to 2.6.30 and wireless stopped working
[13:01] <fccf> synthetiq: have you tried using wvdial and a custom connect script
[13:01] <Zemy_> synthetiq: there is a lot of info via google to get those sticks to play with ubuntu jaunty
[13:01] <trident523> synthetiq: Take a peek at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkManager/Hardware/3G ... see it there?
[13:01] <pARAd0X85> any comments ?
[13:01] <trident523> pARAd0X85: !ubuntu-ot | pARAd0X85
[13:01] <trident523> ... wait.
[13:01] <Zemy_> synthetiq : trident523 beat me to it!
[13:01] <synthetiq> i exhausted google guys, that is why i came ehre
[13:01] <synthetiq> :)
[13:02] <synthetiq> here
[13:02] <trident523> !ubuntu-ot| pARAd0X85
[13:02] <trident523> what?
[13:02] <Myrtti> pARAd0X85: did you have ubuntu support questions?
[13:02] <fccf> pARAd0X85: they are suggesting you move your comment to #ubuntu-offtopic
[13:02] <fccf> !ot
[13:02] <pARAd0X85> ok
[13:03] <Joshua_Mayer> Can Ubuntu be installed on an external harddrive, and then can you boot from it?
[13:03] <arian> by
[13:03] <BlackHawk> trident523: thank you, language-support-de was not installed :)
[13:03] <trident523> Joshua_Mayer: Almost always, unless your bios does not support it.
[13:03] <Flamik> Hi everyone! I'm kinda new to Linux(Ubuntu most recent version), I need to compile some code with g++ 3.4.0, how can I downgrade g++ ? (no need to keep current v.)
[13:03] <fccf> Joshua_Mayer: yes and yes if your bios supports booting from usb
[13:04] <fccf> Flamik: your question might be better answered in #gcc
[13:04] <pARAd0X85> what's the ubuntu offtopic channel ?
[13:04] <Rossiefox> Hello!
[13:04] <trident523> !ot | pARAd0X85
[13:04] <fccf> #ubuntu-offtopic
[13:04] <Pici> pARAd0X85: #ubuntu-offtopic
[13:04] <ab3l> hi, what's wrong in this rule http://lo.pastebin.com/m72ae0022 ? it's meant to map port 80 on gw machine to server in lanhost but doesn't works
[13:04] <killerboy> hello
[13:04] <Joshua_Mayer> I think my BIOS does support usb booting. If I did install it on a external hd, would GRUB let me choose to boot from Windows or ubuntu, or would I just have to choose where to boot from each time I want to use one or the other?
[13:04] <Flamik> fccf: ok, thanks
[13:05] <trident523> ab3l: are you sure you're inputting and outputting on the right interface?
[13:05] <ab3l> yes ppp0 is internet wan
[13:05] <ab3l> eth0 i lan
[13:05] <killerboy> how to turn off cursor in full screen games. Standard X cursor is seen in addition to game cursor. How to repair it?
[13:05] <dyllan> It is possible, & if so how, to install a firewall (linux: iptables), between my cisco router (which is also my gateway: 172.20.16.1) & my LAN (172.20.16.0/24).
[13:06] <trident523> killerboy: the simple solution is to add the mouse locker to your panel, click that, and launch the game afterwards.
[13:06] <trident523> dyllan: You'd have to make your computer first in line to the internet, otherwise, it'd accomplish not a whole lot.
[13:07] <killerboy> trident523, mouse locker? what's that?
[13:07] <trident523> killerboy: add to panel -> pointer capture.
[13:07] <Roland123> killerboy: it locks the mouse in the current location orsmtg
[13:08] <killerboy> trident523, Roland123 ok, thanks
[13:09] <fccf> killerboy: in gnome it is called mousetweaks
[13:09] <ralf_1985> hi
[13:09] <fccf> !hi |ralf_1985
[13:09] <Rounin> Hello! Is there a way of stopping the update manager from popping up each time I run apt-get?
[13:09] <trident523> Rounin: update all your programs?
[13:10] <Rounin> Well, is there another way?
[13:10] <Rounin> I just want to not see the update manager under any circumstances, except if I start it myself
[13:10] <trident523> Rounin: You can disable it, I guess... I'll go look.
[13:10] <Rounin> Thanks!
[13:11] <Roland123> anyway.. i'm, having trouble with apache.. after adding files to /var/www and then trying to view them throuch a browser. i get 403 forbidden,  but it used to work ok. ( i haven't changed apache's configuration)
[13:11] <BlackHawk> trident523: installing language-support-de didn't help ... and both language-pack-gnome-de and language-pack-gnome-de-base were already installed
[13:11] <killerboy> it doesn't work :-(
[13:11] <trident523> BlackHawk: It might be a bug then...
[13:11] <trident523> Rounin: System -> Administration -> Software Sources
[13:11] <trident523> Updates (tab)
[13:11] <AnAnt_> Hello, the boot messages that are on tty8 , don't they get logged to any file ?!
[13:11] <killerboy> openarena shows cursor
[13:11] <killerboy> :-(
[13:11] <trident523> Rounin: Updates ->Check for Updates [uncheck]
[13:12] <BlackHawk> trident523: kk^^ thanks for your help, it's not that important :)
[13:12] <fccf> killerboy: you have to configure mousetweaks to do what you want
[13:12] <trident523> killerboy: I;ve heard that it borks when compiz (desktop effects) are enabled.
[13:12] <Rounin> That seems to have done the trick, trident523; thank you so much
[13:12] <ralf_1985> hi
[13:12] <trident523> !hi | ralf_1985
[13:13] <killerboy> trident523, i don't have compiz enabled
[13:13] <zek152> Are there problems using netbook-launcher with VirtualBox?  Also how do I turn them off (or revert back to previous)
[13:13] <killerboy> fccc
[13:13] <killerboy> fccf, mousetweaks from terminal give me a bug
[13:13]  * trident523 has to go away.
[13:13] <pvandewyngaerde> AnAnt: dmesg   or /var/log/messages  ?
[13:13] <indus_> !lsof
[13:14] <DjAngo23> Hey everyone. i'm using Ubuntu for about 2 month now, but suddenly it start beeing very slow. Any ideas ?
[13:14] <DjAngo23> Top doesn't  give me any relevant info
[13:14] <un|matrix> DjAngo23: Describe what you mean by slow more accurately  please
[13:14] <indus_> DjAngo23: try htop
[13:14] <indus_> DjAngo23: gives more info
[13:15] <artti> Is there any tool which helps me to import playlist info to mysql database or txt file.
[13:15] <blip-> I've got a SIG that's gone bad, how do I repair it ?
[13:15] <DjAngo23> un|matrix: Mean that application stop working (becomming gray, and not reacting), sometimes, when i type texte i have to wait 2 seconds tilll it show up.
[13:15] <sydneyguy> Guys .. If my hostname is server01 .. and my domain is test.com
[13:15] <DjAngo23> But it is not related to one program
[13:15] <linduxed> my master volume always starts at 0 after reboot
[13:15] <AnAnt> Hello, the boot messages that are on tty8 , don't they get logged to any file ?!
[13:16] <indus_> DjAngo23: more details please
[13:16] <sydneyguy> What should be in the /etc/bind/db.test.com file
[13:16] <sydneyguy> server01.test.com or test.com
[13:16] <linduxed> its not a big deal, but i was wondering if anyone is aware of this issue?
[13:16] <killerboy> fccf, how to configure mousetweaks?
[13:16] <un|matrix> DjAngo23: top doesn't show anything when an application turns grey?
[13:16] <indus_> linduxed: what issue
[13:16] <blip-> linduxed: maybe you can save the session on logout and thus force the master to obey you
[13:17] <indus_> nvm
[13:17] <fccf> killerboy: you need to install assistive technologies -- required by mouse tweaks ... I am not running gnome so I cannot help further - -E17 is where I am right now
[13:17] <linduxed> blip-: well in my case i cant rely on the save session feature since i dont run gnome all the time
[13:17] <sydneyguy> Is the host nameis considered part of FQDN
[13:17] <linduxed> blip-: besides, this seems to be an alsa thing
[13:17] <sydneyguy> Is the hostname is considered part of FQDN
[13:18] <linduxed> indus_: /lastlog linduxed
[13:18] <killerboy> fccf, ok
[13:18] <killerboy> thank you everybody
[13:18] <magnetron> www.google.com. is FQDN
[13:18] <blip-> linduxed: hmm I don't see how alsa would do this, try to restart alsa now and see if it goes back to zero  'sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart'
[13:18] <DjAngo23> un|matrix: The applications stops for about 10 seconds a comes back. same for for exemple rythmebox. I'm installing htop
[13:18] <zek152> http://pastebin.com/m190a7cf0, thats what happens when i try to run netbook-launcher
[13:19] <blip-> linduxed: you may also be able to simply issue a command in your startup script to set the desired volume
[13:19] <DjAngo23> indus_: What info should i give when i installed htop ?
[13:19] <artti> Is there any tool which helps me to import playlist info to mysql database or txt file.
[13:19] <indus_> DjAngo23: just run it
[13:19] <DjAngo23> ok
[13:19] <sydneyguy> SO if my hostname is server01 .. how can I configure my dns.. it is gionna be ns.server01.test.com
[13:19] <indus_> DjAngo23: i once had a guest session using resources and htop showed it
[13:19] <ziiee> Hello
[13:19] <indus_> yes it has many options
[13:19] <sydneyguy> or just ns.test.com .. and i leave server01 out of it
[13:19] <indus_> but man htop will tell that
[13:19] <blip-> ziiee: hellos
[13:20] <Valentinex> is there any software with which I we can do LAN chat between Windows and Linux users?
[13:20] <indus_> Valentinex: what you mean lan chat?
[13:20] <rexwin> wine + ANY LAN messenger
[13:20] <Valentinex> indus_: networking chat
[13:20] <Valentinex> rexwin: really that will work?
[13:20] <ziiee> How does this work? Do i just ask for help :P I dont wanna be disrespecful or anything.
[13:21] <Pici> ziiee: just ask ;)
[13:21] <Pici> !ask
[13:21] <ziiee> :)
[13:21] <Roland123> how to restart a process?
[13:21] <TehFlash> hello
[13:21] <Roland123> like apache?
[13:21] <Valentinex> and what messenger to do lan linux to linux chat?
[13:22] <indus_> Roland123: sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[13:22] <matrixblue> Roland123, sudo /etc/init.d/process restart
[13:22] <milligan_> apt-get is trying to use ipv6.. how can I make it not ?
[13:23] <indus_> milligan_: how do you know it is?
[13:23] <Pici> Valentinex: Do you mean like aim/msn/yahoo messengers?
[13:23] <milligan_> indus_, 56% [Connecting to no.archive.ubuntu.com (2001:700:300:1800::b)] looks very ipv6ish to me
[13:23] <ziiee> I have a laptop with an old Radeon 9700 card. I was messing around with the add/remove application. I wanted to upgrade my graphics drivers although the old ones worked just fine. Stupid me. Well i searched for radeon i got the ATI driver something something. So i clicked it and it installed now when i start the laptop the screen is all flickery and i cant se anything. Right now im on a livecd on the laptop.
[13:23] <Valentinex> Pici: yes
[13:24] <matrixblue> ziiee, are you using Jaunty?
[13:24] <Pici> Valentinex: There are clients for Linux that can interact with those mediums, such as Pidgin.
[13:24] <indus_> Valentinex: then pidgin should work ?
[13:24] <Gilgha> hi
[13:24] <ziiee> Is that Ubuntu 9.04?
[13:24] <DjAngo23> indus_: It is that slow.. It is still installing htop
[13:24] <Gilgha> I've got a big problem
[13:24] <Valentinex> Pici: how that will work to chat between networking users
[13:24] <Gilgha> grub starts in command line !
[13:24] <Gilgha> so I have to boot manually
[13:25] <ziiee> I am using Ubuntu 9.04
[13:25] <indus_> Gilgha: what it means grub starts in command line?
[13:25] <matrixblue> ziiee, yeah say my name in a message so I can know you;re taking toi me
[13:25] <ziiee> ohh sorry. dont know the protocoll
[13:25] <Pici> Valentinex: It would work the same way as if you had two Windows computers running aim.
[13:25] <indus_> DjAngo23: under system >admin>system monitor whatdoes it show under resources
[13:25] <ziiee> matrixblue, sorry
[13:25] <fccf> !guidelines | ziiee
[13:25] <Valentinex> Pici: i do not want aim, i want lan chat.... wait like this http://www.outlookmessenger.com/
[13:26] <Gilgha> it means that when I start my computer, grub doesn't start with the list of my differents os but in command line
[13:26] <matrixblue> ziiee, the problem is that ATI dropped support for older cards in the Xorg that comes with Jaunty. So the closed sourced drivers from ATI don't work
[13:26] <wtl> !ipod
[13:26] <ziiee> matrixblue, how do i then go back to the old drivers?
[13:26] <indus_> Gilgha: aah thats easy wait
[13:27] <DjAngo23> CPU1 : 32% and CPU2 23%  | Memoriy 40%  Swap 0.1%
[13:27] <matrixblue> ziiee, run these three commands http://paste.ubuntu.com/193406/
[13:27] <KingOfDos|lap> can someone explain why X isn't starting?
[13:27] <nixiepixel> Eww, the Ubuntu community documentation tells you to run Windows in virtualbox to sync an iPhone?  :P
[13:28] <Pici> Valentinex: One way would be to setup your own Jabber server, there are many clients that support that protocol.
[13:28] <matrixblue> ziiee, you have to boot into recovery mode then run those
[13:28] <DjAngo23> indus_: Htop looks quite okay aswell
[13:28] <blip-> ubottu: sup
[13:28] <KingOfDos|lap> i'm having a problem on a embedded x86 device, with build-in TFT panel
[13:28] <blip-> ubottu: gpgerr
[13:28] <indus_> DjAngo23: maybe your ram is sc****ed
[13:28] <fccf> !msgthebot | blip
[13:28] <matrixblue> ziiee, select recovery mode from the grub menu then select drop to root shell
[13:28] <DjAngo23> indus_: Grr, can i test that easaly ?
[13:28] <KingOfDos|lap> after i'd configured the /boot/grub/menu.lst for the right resolution, the console worked "ok"
[13:29] <Valentinex> Pici: that jabber server will work when i will be without internet ?
[13:29] <indus_> DjAngo23: how about windows,does it work ok?
[13:29] <ziiee> matrixblue, i tried booting into recovery mode but i get a blue list and there are some options there. for example. boot normaly. fix graphics problem or something.
[13:29] <DjAngo23> indus_: Cauz it could be that, i had 2 times this eek that my laptip shuts down because of to high temperature :S
[13:29] <KingOfDos|lap> but if i'm trying to start X now, it just will give a white screen (i'd guess that's the DPMS turn-off signal, or something that the TFT isn't supporting)
[13:29] <matrixblue> ziiee, select root shell from that menu
[13:29] <indus_> DjAngo23: aah ok ok tell me ur config
[13:29] <Pici> Valentinex: I think so..
[13:29] <matrixblue> ziiee, then you can type those commands there and you should be set
[13:29] <G-ilgha> indus_, have you got a solution ?
[13:29] <DjAngo23> indus_: I did work okay, but after 6 months it was slow aswell, but more because of the programs i think
[13:29] <ziiee> matrixblue, thank you so much :)
[13:30] <matrixblue> ziiee, anytime :)
[13:30] <gschmidt01> I am having trouble with java applets on my bank website
[13:30] <indus_> Gilgha: wait 2 min i search cos i forgot
[13:30] <DjAngo23> indus_: Laptop Fujitsu Siemens Amilo Pi 2530
[13:30] <cankoy> Valentinex: rexwin answered your q. Install wine, then use sth like http://messenger.softros.com/
[13:30] <jribindisguise> gschmidt01: are you using the sun plug in?
[13:30] <G-ilgha> Ok thanks
[13:30] <sidh> greetings everybody
[13:30] <gschmidt01> yes, almost all seems to work but not quite, it is a SSL and I added the certificate
[13:31] <DjAngo23> indus_: Laptop Fujitsu Siemens Amilo Pi 2530 with 2gb Ram, and 2  Inter Core 2 Duo CPU T7250 @ 2.00 GHz
[13:31] <blip-> can anyone run apt-get update succesfully ?   I've tried 3 million mirrors and removed and re-added my GPG keys.... I am still getting  BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key
[13:31] <sidh> does someone know how to get virtualbox 2.2.4 on ubuntu
[13:31] <N9NU> can i ask a question in regards to a d-bus error i get when trying to connect to my network HP printer
[13:31] <sidh> ?
[13:31] <jribindisguise> N9NU: just ask
[13:31] <Valentinex> Thank you all
[13:31] <matrixblue> sidh, www.virtualbox.org
[13:31] <jribindisguise> gschmidt01: can you pastebin the contents of your about:plugins?
[13:32] <N9NU> I get this error via the CLI each time:  Starting CUPS printing system:                                                                                                                 [  OK  ]
[13:32] <N9NU> ERROR:dbus.connection:Exception in handler for D-Bus signal:
[13:32] <N9NU> Traceback (most recent call last):
[13:32] <N9NU>   File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/dbus/connection.py", line 214, in maybe_handle_message
[13:32] <N9NU>     self._handler(*args, **kwargs)
[13:32] <FloodBot1> N9NU: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:32] <sidh> matrixblue: it's not in repositories ?
[13:32] <N9NU>   File "./monitor.py", line 755, in handle_dbus_signal
[13:32] <gschmidt01> ?
[13:32] <N9NU> my bad
[13:32] <fccf> !paste | N9NU
[13:32] <shiznebit> can anyone direct me, how to make my program  - like skype -  part of my wallpaper ?
[13:32] <matrixblue> sidh, the open source edition (OSE) is but if you need USB support you need the regular version
[13:32] <N9NU> ok ub
[13:32] <N9NU> !paste | N9NU
[13:33] <sidh> ok tanks
[13:33] <jribindisguise> shiznebit: not sure what you mean... you want the program to be below all other windows always?
[13:33] <grandemahatma> hallo I'm running matlab and it complains with the following: /home/ale/programs/matlab/sys/os/glnx86/libgcc_s.so.1: version `GCC_4.2.0' not found (required by /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6) But I have installed gcc4.2 with synaptic (I already had 4.3) and it is still not working... could somebody help me?
[13:33] <X11> Hello...
[13:33] <gschmidt01> i get that together and log back on
[13:33] <jribindisguise> grandemahatma: I don't use matlab, but there is a wiki article on its use in ubuntu.  Have you checked it out?
[13:33] <indus_> Gilgha: right now how are you booting?
[13:33] <N9NU> http://paste.ubuntu.com/193410/
[13:33] <N9NU> that is the URL
[13:34] <N9NU> for the paste
[13:34] <grandemahatma> jribindisguise: were is it?
[13:34] <grandemahatma> where
[13:34] <shiznebit> jribindisguise: basically a program thats part of the actual wallpaper, so that it can't be minimized
[13:34] <jribindisguise> N9NU: are you using any software outside of the official default repositories?
[13:34] <G-ilgha> indus_, i boot manually
[13:34] <G-ilgha> by typing the command in the command line :p
[13:35] <indus_> Gilgha: manually as in?
[13:35] <G-ilgha> as in:
[13:35] <jribindisguise> grandemahatma: help.ubuntu.com/community/MATLAB
[13:35] <G-ilgha> root(hd0,2)
[13:35] <indus_> Gilgha: lol
[13:35] <indus_> Gilgha: try a sudo update-grub
[13:35] <G-ilgha> kernel /vmlinuz root=/dev/sda3
[13:35] <DjAngo23> indus_: Did you found something ?
[13:35] <grandemahatma> jribindisguise: thanks
[13:35] <G-ilgha> and so on
[13:35] <N9NU> negative....im using the HP-HPLP one
[13:35] <G-ilgha> i've tryed
[13:35] <indus_> DjAngo23: nope
[13:35] <N9NU> and just cups
[13:35] <G-ilgha> but it didn't work
[13:36] <indus_> Gilgha: paste grub menu.list
[13:36] <jribindisguise> N9NU: you are using cups outside of the repositories?
[13:36] <jribindisguise> !who | N9NU
[13:36] <DjAngo23> indus_: Which log are import to look into if any problem occurs ?
[13:36] <grandemahatma> jribindisguise: no the solution is still there.
[13:36] <indus_> DjAngo23: try dmesg
[13:36] <N9NU> negative jribindisguise
[13:36] <grandemahatma> but I think it's a problem of the compiler, not of matlab.
[13:36] <jribindisguise> shiznebit: I'm still not sure what you are trying to accomplish but try looking into devilspie
[13:37] <TheYeti> grandemahatma: well, what does gcc --version say?
[13:37] <N9NU> i can try to uninstall cups and re-install
[13:37] <wiehan> Can some one please tell me how to update to firefox 3.5 in ubuntu jaunty?
[13:37] <G-ilgha> here is my menu.lst http://paste.ubuntu-fr-secours.org/src-16313
[13:37] <grandemahatma> TheYeti: 4.3.2
[13:37] <Pici> wiehan: install the firefox-3.5 package would be a good start
[13:37] <grandemahatma> TheYeti: how can I change it?
[13:38] <wiehan> Pici: well, thanks, didn't know tht was the package name
[13:38] <indus_> Gilgha:sexy menu.list lol never seen anything like it :)
[13:38] <DjAngo23> indus_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/193414/
[13:38] <G-ilgha> what's wrong with it indus_
[13:38] <indus_> Gilgha: looks huge
[13:39] <G-ilgha> make automaticaly by update-grub i think
[13:39] <Maximo> hi, question how do I stop a little application that I executed using Alt+f2 "free the fish" without quotes?
[13:39] <G-ilgha> *made
[13:39] <indus_> Gilgha: did u make a custom kernel?
[13:39] <bloooooomer> hey
[13:39] <G-ilgha> no I'm using the 2.6.28 kernel
[13:39] <G-ilgha> and testing the 2.6.29
[13:39] <DjAngo23> indus_: What should i search for ?
[13:40] <indus_> DjAngo23: i dont know this
[13:40] <wiehan> G-ilgha: 2.6.30 has been released
[13:40] <X11> grandemahatma: libgcc_s.so.xx is not found on the native Ubuntu 9.04 installation, while curren gcc 4.3.2 uses libgcc1, not libgcc_s
[13:40] <Maximo> hi, question how do I stop a little application that I executed using Alt+f2 "free the fish" without quotes?
[13:40] <G-ilgha> wiehan, officially ?
[13:40] <Pici> Maximo: killall gnome-panel
[13:41] <Pici> Maximo: it will restart itself
[13:41] <grandemahatma> X11: so...?
[13:41] <wiehan> G-ilgha: I think so, just read the article on the net.. There's a joke about one regression: Tuz to Tux
[13:41] <indus_> Gilgha: is it a wubi install
[13:41] <Maximo> Pici: thanks alot let me try it
[13:41] <G-ilgha> i don't know what's a wubi install :p
[13:42] <indus_> Gilgha: what is that xen line in the list?
[13:42] <DjAngo23> Hey everyone. i'm using Ubuntu for about 2 month now, but suddenly it start beeing very slow. Any ideas ? Nothing strang in htop...
[13:43] <Phazzer> Linux blows
[13:43] <TheYeti> DjAngo23: Please describe what you mean by slow?  Might help narrow down what the problem is.
[13:43] <jribindisguise> Phazzer: do you have an ubuntu-related support question?
[13:43] <G-ilgha> indus_, I don't know my menu.lst was made automaticaly
[13:43] <Phazzer> Do I need one?
[13:43] <indus_> Gilgha: ok
[13:44] <jribindisguise> Phazzer: if you wish to discuss something here, yes
[13:44] <Phazzer> Ain't that a slap in the testicals
[13:44] <DjAngo23> TheYeti: Application become gray, and unaccesssible, when i'm typing sometimes i have to wait for 2-3-4 seconds before text aprears, and when switching apps, it takes 4 seconds to react
[13:45] <indus_> Gilgha: i suggest you use live cd and fix it
[13:45] <Maximo> Pici: gone ...no more
[13:45] <Maximo> thanks
[13:45] <X11> grandemahatma: one moment please, I try to browse, cause I never heard about lbgcc_s, all I know only libgcc1 that as part of gcc compiler
[13:45] <indus_> Gilgha: or otherwise from inside the system
[13:45] <N9NU> jribindisguise: found the problem with the printer......python error for some reason....fixed now
[13:45] <macvr> testing...
[13:45] <indus_> Gilgha: a few steps only
[13:45] <Gilgha> how ?
[13:46] <indus_> sudo grub
[13:46] <grandemahatma> X11: ok..
[13:46] <indus_> ok wait i give u link
[13:46] <TheYeti> DjAngo23: Do you keep any kind of load monitor running that might show you when you are getting cpu spikes so you can check top or ps?   That could honestly be any number of things from not enough ram, running out of cpu cycles, to a hdd failing.
[13:46] <kewl1> Hei ubottu, do u think you re so smart, yeah??? So listen me. I ll skin you face on my screen and take out all you codes by my teeth!!!
[13:46] <kewl1> :P
[13:47] <Gilgha> indus_, can I do it inside the system ? Because my partition is an ext4 so my Ubuntu 8.10 live CD can't mount it
[13:47] <DjAngo23> I haven't, but everything can be install, which one do you have in mind ?
[13:47] <DjAngo23> TheYeti: htop ?
[13:47] <jribindisguise> grandemahatma: try http://www.mathworks.de/matlabcentral/newsreader/view_thread/136492 ?
[13:47] <indus_> gilgha hmm dont know about ext4 but yes it can be done inside
[13:47] <indus_> !grub
[13:48] <Gilgha> how can I fix it ?
[13:48] <TheYeti> DjAngo23: I know there is a gnome panel applet that will show you like your cpu statistics, or keeping htop or top open.   Keep in mind though that those can sometimes affect your system speed if you keep them running constantly
[13:48] <indus_> Gilgha: but its live cd method
[13:48] <Gilgha> "sudo grub" is exactly the same command line I have when grub loads
[13:49] <kewl1> !Hei ubottu, do u think you re so smart, yeah??? So listen me. I ll skin you face on my screen and take out all you codes by my teeth!!!
[13:49] <indus_> Gilgha: u have a dual boot system?
[13:49] <kewl1> !i know that!!!
[13:49] <Myrtti> kewl1: stop playing around with the bot
[13:50] <kewl1> :P
[13:50] <indus_> :)
[13:50] <Gilgha> indus_, yes and a vista bootloader is in the mbr. It can boot vista or grub and then I can boot Ubuntu
[13:50] <DjAngo23> TheYeti: Hum, well, i will take a look at that and try to find out
[13:51] <indus_> Gilgha: grub cant properly find the menu.list i think
[13:51] <kewl1> Myrtti, why  man? take easy,..free your mind too!!!]
[13:51] <indus_> Gilgha: i think try setup grub again
[13:51] <kewl1> Myrtti, let me play arround!!! :P
[13:51] <Gilgha> it did it well yesterday :p
[13:51] <Gilgha> how can I setup grub ?
[13:51] <indus_> that link i gave u
[13:52] <indus_> Gilgha: live cd
[13:52] <Gilgha> I've tryed to reinstall it but it didn't work
[13:52] <TheYeti> DjAngo23: Sorry couldn't be of more help.  Unfortunately without more info there are just to many things it could be.  Hopefully you can narrow it down though and see if any logs are being spewed forth or if a certain process is just going wonky
[13:52] <indus_> Gilgha: what do u mean install it?
[13:52] <Gilgha> sudo apt-get remove then sudo apt-get install
[13:52] <Myrtti> kewl1: you're disturbing the channel. you can investigate the bot in /msg with it, if you want.
[13:53] <indus_> Gilgha: no not that
[13:53] <kewl1> okok
[13:53] <indus_> Gilgha: reconfigure grub
[13:53] <indus_> Gilgha: check the link i gave u
[13:54] <X11> grandemahatma: libgcc_s probably part of the change nowadays GCC project but it is not published yet, I try to search on debian.org and packages.ubuntu.com but negative result. Only libgcc1 that is found.
[13:54] <Gilgha> i'll try that now but are you sure I can do this with my 8.10 Live CD, Jaunty is installed on an ext4 partition and 8.10 can't mount ext4 partition
[13:54] <grandemahatma> X11: yep
[13:54] <indus_> Gilgha:from inside system type sudo grub
[13:54] <grandemahatma> X11: now it works
[13:54] <Gilgha> understood :p
[13:54] <grandemahatma> X11: I followed the instruction I found on the site you gave me
[13:54] <Gilgha> I'm trying right now
[13:54] <grandemahatma> X11: thanks a lot!
[13:55] <indus_> Gilgha: so u arrive at a prompt like so grub>
[13:55] <X11> grandemahatma: oops! congratulation...
[13:56] <skmpz> any1 here to help ?
[13:56] <X11> what skmpz?
[13:56] <joeri> depends on what :)
[13:56] <skmpz> :)
[13:56] <Gilgha> "setup (hd0)" fails :s
[13:56] <skmpz> can i paste link with a picture ?
[13:56] <jribindisguise> grandemahatma: my site :)
[13:56] <Gilgha> "Error 12: Invalid device requested" indus_
[13:56] <indus_> Gilgha: type this at grub prompt
[13:57] <Gilgha> that's what i did
[13:57] <indus_> Gilgha: find /boot/grub/stage1
[13:57] <Gilgha> also did it
[13:57] <navatwo> Okay, so I'm booted in terminal, and I have the graphics interfaces on my second desktop are messed. I have no taskbar or panel. I can't even change back to the other workspace... How can I get my panels etc back, and switch back to my workspace
[13:57] <Gilgha> it anwsers (hd0,2)
[13:57] <cankoy> DjAngo23: sth's odd with your wireless interface, like you have two of them in race
[13:57] <indus_> Gilgha: good now type root(hd0,2)
[13:58] <X11> skmpz: link of what?
[13:58] <Gilgha> doesn't work "Error 12: Invalid device requested" indus_
[13:58] <skmpz> a picture to show u what exactly i want to do..
[13:58] <skmpz> its from gnome site
[13:58] <indus_> Gilgha:impossible
[13:58] <Peace-> can i share my own copy of ubuntu with medibuntu stuff?
[13:59] <indus_> Gilgha: using sudo i hope
[13:59] <Gilgha> yes
[13:59] <warren_> warren: please register your own nick
[13:59] <indus_> Gilgha: find /boot/grub/stage1??
[14:00] <X11> skmpz: shorry I cant understand more...
[14:00] <Gilgha> ok it works
[14:00] <Nava2> So, I am navatwo and I can't seem to get back
[14:00] <Aayush> does any one knows from where i can download skype for 64bit linux
[14:00] <Nava2> I'm frustrated to say the least.
[14:00] <indus_> Gilgha: and?
[14:01] <Gilgha> i've forgot to type root (hd0,2)
[14:01] <Nava2> I can't get back to the terminal boot w/e its called.
[14:01] <Nava2> The shortcuts wont work
[14:01] <Gilgha> so setup (hd0) works
[14:01] <indus_> Gilgha: also remember its hd zero not the letter o
[14:01] <Nava2> and now I cannot do anything on my computer except run terminal things.
[14:01] <Nava2> -_-
[14:01] <indus_> Gilgha: ok great
[14:01] <Gilgha> yes I know indus_
[14:01] <indus_> Gilgha: ok noq type quit
[14:01] <indus_> Gilgha: btw,
[14:01] <sidh> http://pastebin.com/d6b3dcbfb <-- i get this error while trying to compact my vdi file
[14:02] <skmpz> guys .. http://www.gnome-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=1&id=73210&file1=73210-1.jpg&file2=73210-2.jpg&file3=73210-3.jpg&name=Slickness+Black
[14:02] <indus_> Gilgha: also setup(hd0,2) will install grub to ubuntu partition if u want that
[14:02] <Gilgha> indus_, ok everything seems ok
[14:02] <skmpz> i mean i want to add the system info thing at the right of the picture..
[14:02] <skmpz> u got it now ? :)
[14:02] <indus_> Gilgha: Restart
[14:02] <indus_> :)
[14:02] <Nava2> Can someone help me get my gui back? =/ I have no task bar etc.
[14:03] <Nava2> on my second workspace
[14:03] <Gilgha> indus_, now grub can boot vista I prefer let grub manage
[14:03] <Nava2> and I cannot switch back to my other workspace.. which has GUI
[14:03] <[Gloom]> Aayush: AFAIK there's no skype compiled for 64 bits. You can download the deb package and install it with the --force-architecture flag (dpkg), or install it from a repo like medibuntu.
[14:04] <DjAngo23> cankoy: That is true, i have to Wireless,
[14:04] <skmpz> X11: got it ?
[14:04] <Gilgha> I'm rebooting then I come back here :)
[14:04] <X11> skmpz: kick me!
[14:04] <skmpz> ??
[14:04] <TheNano> I have tried to set up an openvpn tunnel to my Android Magic phone today , it works but I don't know any proper way to disconnect  the vpn, if I close the terminal , the route tables are not restored and tap0 device is still up and running , Is there any other way to stop the tunnel so it cleans after itself ?
[14:04] <erUSUL> Nava2: the key combinations like crtl + alt + → do not work ?
[14:04] <DjAngo23> cankoy: Should i better shutdown one of the, ?
[14:04] <arvind_khadri> !find photos.service
[14:04] <Nava2> erUSUL: nope..
[14:04] <X11> skmpz: yes 100%
[14:04] <norpan111> Hello! Ive googled this for a while but i dont find a right solution, does anybody know a bug or something aboyt sound trhough HDMI?
[14:05] <Nava2> they move my desktop, but not workspace
[14:05] <indus_> DjAngo23: have you solved your problem?
[14:05] <norpan111> cus i really cant get the sound working
[14:05] <skmpz> how can i add it then ? :P
[14:05] <DjAngo23> indus_: Nop still not :s
[14:05] <cankoy> DjAngo23: yes, they seem to be in race against same AP
[14:05] <DjAngo23> cankoy: Can't I put them in a way to work both ?
[14:05] <Milos_SD> How can I remove pulseaudio from my system without it removeing other software with it?
[14:06] <arvind_khadri> I want to find a module named photos.service
[14:06] <nzerox> hey guys
[14:07] <nzerox> i? having trouble with my mailserver
[14:07] <nzerox> master_spawn: exec /usr/lib/postfix/smptd: No
[14:07] <nzerox> such file or directory
[14:07] <norpan111> Im having trouble with HDMI sound in ubuntu 9.04 using Nvidia geforce 8200
[14:07] <skmpz> X11: i think its called conky
[14:07] <nzerox> Can someone point me in the right direction please
[14:08] <norpan111> tried almost every setting, and ubuntu detects HDMI out and everything, i can get perfect picture
[14:08] <norpan111> BUt no sound
[14:08] <beli> nzerox: ls -al /usr/lib/postfix/smptd
[14:09] <Katarn> hi, since i have changed the default file browser (nauilus) in gnome to "thunar".. my desktop isnt accessible anymore via looking at the desktop. what can i do ?
[14:09] <usser_> Katarn, nautilus is not only the file browser its also responsible for drawing your desktop icons and such
[14:10] <nzerox> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 205408 Nov  5  2008 /usr/lib/postfix/smtpd
[14:11] <DjAngo23> cankoy: I used : sudo ifconfig Wlan0 down
[14:11] <Katarn> usser_: so how can i use nautilus to draw the dektop icons, when i want to keep using thuar as def. browser?
[14:11] <DjAngo23> is that okay
[14:11] <skmpz> any1 can help with adding a conky ?
[14:11] <nzerox> beli, -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 205408 Nov  5  2008 /usr/lib/postfix/smtpd
[14:11] <usser_> Katarn, did u uninstall nautilus?
[14:12] <usser_> Katarn, just type nautilus on the terminal, it should work
[14:13] <Katarn> usser_: so just need to add nautilus to sessions?
[14:13] <X11> skmpz: i think as you thinked
[14:14] <cankoy> DjAngo23: physically get rid of one card. You won't get more thruput with two wireless cards, and load balancing over multiple interfaces is a complex topic.
[14:14] <usser_> Katarn, yea
[14:15] <Katarn> k
[14:15] <Katarn> thx
[14:15] <Nava2> So, I still can't figure out my taskbar issues, I have none, nor can I move to my other desktop with gui.
[14:15] <Nava2> :(
[14:15] <X11> Katarn_, usser: make sure that gnome_setting_manager daemon already running too...
[14:15] <usser_> Katarn, if you want a great file manager pcmanfm is really awesome
[14:15] <slipttees> WavePlus WP1200 802.11b Wireless PCI Card have native suppor ?
[14:16] <nzerox> beli, you still there?
[14:16] <cankoy> Nava2: ctrl-alt-f7
[14:16] <Nava2> I also cannot click on the desktop
[14:16] <Nava2> I'm in that..
[14:16] <Nava2> :p
[14:16] <Katarn> usser: you have a link?
[14:16] <navatwo> hmm.. now I can change back to the terminal.. wierd..
[14:17] <blackghost> plz help The DRI drivers can not be installed without the latest kernel modules.
[14:17] <blackghost> Installation will be aborted. See the dri.log file for information on
[14:17] <blackghost> what went wrong.
[14:17] <usser> Katarn, its in the repos, http://pcmanfm.sourceforge.net/
[14:17] <blackghost> intel 915g
[14:17] <beli> nzerox: yes so its not the smtp file missing...its that the smtp process is missing some stuff...maybe config...or db files....
[14:17] <blackghost> any help
[14:18] <beli> nzerox: use postconf -a    and check all the mentioned files/hashed dbs are at the right location
[14:18] <nzerox> beli, the stmpd file is there, that? what its complaining about
[14:18] <usser> blackghost, whats wrong with built in drivers?
[14:19] <usser> blackghost, works fine for me on i915
[14:19] <blackghost> nothing work for me
[14:20] <blackghost> desktop effects are not working
[14:20] <blackghost> also tab is not working
[14:20] <Kingsy101> can someone help me, I booted my system up today and I got a serious error..
[14:20] <Kingsy101> it says
[14:21] <usser> blackghost, what glxinfo | grep direct say?
[14:21] <nzerox> beli, postconf -a returns this
[14:21] <usser> blackghost, can you pastebin the entire output of glxinfo actually
[14:21] <nzerox> beli, cyrus
[14:21] <nzerox> dovecot
[14:21] <enthbott> hello.
[14:21] <usser> !pastebin | blackghost
[14:21] <Katarn> usser: do u know how to set pcmanfm as default filebrowser?
[14:21] <enthbott> alloh
[14:21] <Katarn> i like it
[14:21] <beli> nzerox: sorry, just postconf, drop the -a
[14:22] <sky_1> hi who know how i can create in OO.o automatic content ?
[14:22] <enthbott> I just uniinstalled nautilus, katarn
[14:22] <Kingsy101> Could not start the X Server (your graphical envioroment) due to some internal error. Please contact your system administrator or check your syslog to diagnose. In the meantime this display will be disabled. Please re-start GDM when the problem is corrected.
[14:22] <Kingsy101> then after about 30 seconds a prompt based login system shows up
[14:22] <usser> Katarn, i dont know what default really means, i always run it by invoking it directly, never bothered with defaults and such
[14:23] <Kingsy101> if  I try to log in it doesnt work, after I enter my username and password it just goes back to asking me for a login
[14:23] <Kingsy101> any ideas anyone?
[14:23] <david_m> help
[14:23] <enthbott> does anyone know how to omit the filename in 'find' command outputs?
[14:23] <sky_1> who know
[14:23] <Katarn> usser: means: when i klick on a hardrive icon on my desktop, the pcmanfm opens the drive instead of nautilus
[14:23] <mick_laptop> hi everyone, i'd like to (on the creation of a new user) copy over a file to their Desktop. What changes to /etc/skel would i need to make for it to poy it over?
[14:24] <usser> enthbott, hm why are using find if you're not interested in found filenames :)
[14:24] <mick_laptop> s/poy/copy/
[14:24] <blackghost> nothing return error
[14:24] <usser> Katarn, use pcmanfm desktop support instead of nautilus's
[14:24] <rob_p> Kingsy101, What's the last thing you did, added, or changed on your system before it started doing that?  Have you checked the logfiles for clues?
[14:24] <enthbott> I'm writing a backup script.
[14:24] <Katarn> it uses pcmanfm instead of nautilus to open the disk
[14:25] <Kingsy101> rob_p - tbh I cant remember .. its probably been a week or so since I turned it on
[14:25] <Kingsy101> I havnt checked the log files, I don
[14:25] <Kingsy101> t know how
[14:25] <Kingsy101> like I said I cant get into the operasting system
[14:25] <rob_p> Kingsy101, They will be located in /var/log
[14:25] <Kingsy101> operating
[14:25] <usser> Katarn, is there a menu called open with when you right click on the icon
[14:25] <enthbott> mebe I should rephrase: I want find to output something like '/home/enthdegree/' as opposed to
[14:25] <beli> mick_laptop: just put the file there
[14:25] <Kingsy101> I cant get access
[14:26] <enthbott> '/home/enthdegree/thing.file/'
[14:26] <rob_p> Kingsy101, If you can get to the command prompt, you have access to the OS.
[14:26] <Kingsy101> like I said before, it asks for a login / password after I enter the correct stuff in it just goes back to asking for a login/password
[14:27] <deluxor> Hello alll!!
[14:27] <Katarn> usser: i have 2 choices: simply "open" and "open with filemanager"
[14:27] <Kingsy101> if I enter the wrong password it says invalid password
[14:27] <ircnickiuse> I've just apt-get install ubuntu-desktop << on ubuntu server, now I want to have the default desktop session show on tightvncserver - is there a tutorial on that?
[14:27] <trident523> !hi |  deluxor
[14:27] <Kingsy101> rob_p - any ideas?
[14:27] <usser> Katarn, hm i dont know
[14:27] <deluxor> people is true that the Hyper Vm founder have suicided?
[14:28] <bazhang> !ot > deluxor
[14:28] <enthbott> I use pcmanfm as a total replacement for nautilus on my ubuntu eeepc
[14:28] <trident523> ircnickiuse: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-36140.html ?
[14:28] <Katarn> enthbott: so u suggest to uninstall nautilus kompletely?
[14:28] <artti> I downloaded amarok 1.4 and now i'm trying to compile it. There is command 'make' What i do with it.
[14:28] <rob_p> Kingsy101, You said GDM was bailing out and dropping to a command prompt... at least that's what I thought you said.  Nonetheless, you can CTRL-ALT-F1 from a graphical environment to get a shell.  Or you can boot in single user mode.
[14:28] <usser> Katarn, i dont think its possible if you uninstall nautilus it will pull most of the gnome with it
[14:29] <usser> artti, amarok uses Qmake
[14:29] <mick_laptop> beli: put the file where?
[14:29] <Katarn> usser: thats what i thought
[14:29] <ircnickiuse> trident523, I've read that - but the issue isn't resolved!
[14:29] <bove> are there any alive web interface projects for proftpd?
[14:29] <mick_laptop> beli: in /etc/skel/
[14:29] <beli> mick_laptop: in the skel dir
[14:29] <trident523> artti: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware ?
[14:29] <mick_laptop> ok cool thanks!
[14:29] <Kingsy101> rob_p - I did, like I said the command prompt is asking for a username/password.. and it wont let me log in
[14:29] <artti> usser, well install readme says make.
[14:29] <trident523> ircnickiuse: So, there's no default session when you VNC? What exactly does it do?
[14:30] <cowgarden> hi, I have 1500 files, numbered (file1 file2...) but 2 in the series are missing. can I search for them somehow?
[14:30] <Darmiel> Good evening
[14:30] <Kingsy101> when I enter the correct details it just asks me again, when i enter the wrong details it tells me I havnt entered invalid passwords
[14:30] <Befuddled> Ok I was playing around yesterday trying to make my desktop more appealing and I accidentally got rid of my wireless signal indicator in the upper right.  I can't figure out how to get it back!  Anybody help?
[14:30] <rob_p> Kingsy101, Well, if you can't get in with your username/password, then you will need to boot in single user mode and reset your password.
[14:30] <Befuddled> using 9.04
[14:30] <usser> artti, here scroll down to generating a make file http://web.mit.edu/qt/www/qmake-manual-3.html
[14:30] <ircnickiuse> trident523, right now it jsut gave me x, I installed awesome, and now I think... gnome-session might help... i'll try
[14:30] <Kingsy101> rob_p - how do I do that?
[14:30] <trident523> Befuddled: right click panel => add to panel => notification area
[14:31] <beli> cowgarden: files on the web? or files on your harddrive?
[14:31] <usser> Befuddled, open terminal and type nohup nm-applet &
[14:31] <cowgarden> beli, hd
[14:31] <beli> cowgarden: man locate, man find
[14:31] <Befuddled> Thank you Trident523.  I was looking for something regarding wireless.
[14:31] <eevar2> how do i force aptitude to remove a specific package not caring about broken dependencies?
[14:31] <logic> i need some help with my wireless network manager.. it does not seem to work anymore... could someone help me?
[14:31] <rob_p> Kingsy101, http://lmgtfy.com/?q=ubuntu+single+user+mode
[14:31] <artti> trident523, there is make. Do i just write it to terminal?
[14:32] <rob_p> Kingsy101, That should give you some info.  :-)
[14:32] <tehboriz> jesus christ this site tells me i have trojans on my kubuntu!!! http://bestantiviruscheck2.com/1/?id=2017&smersh=5e907ba26&back=%3DTQw1zD3NIQNMI%3DN
[14:32] <cowgarden> beli, how could I search for something that is NOT there? (file1 file2 file4 file5 file6, how do I figure out file3 is missing?)
[14:32] <trident523> artti: Well, I'd strongly advise against compiling, but if you have to... yeah.
[14:32] <enthbott> tehboriz?
[14:32] <Darmiel> Who knows how to establish Ubuntu with USB Flash?
[14:32] <trident523> !antivirus | tehboriz
[14:32] <artti> trident523, well i'm trying to get amarok 1.4
[14:32] <bazhang> !usb > Darmiel
[14:32] <beli> cowgarden: sorry...i dont understand your problem correctly then....
[14:32] <cowgarden> Darmiel, you're an windows now?
[14:32] <cowgarden> beli, you still don't?
[14:33] <X11_> tehboriz: i dont think so...
[14:33] <w0ls0n> hello all. I am running vmware server 2.0 on ubuntu. When I do the security updates, it modified the files in /lib/modules/2.6.28-11-generic/misc .. in my vm I have no network connectivity. I have tried to backup these files and replace them
[14:33] <beli> cowgarden: you have file1 file2 file4 and you want to print out that file3 is missing?
[14:33] <w0ls0n>                 but that doesn't seem to work. My only workaround is to remove the
[14:33] <w0ls0n>                 files in /lib/modules/2.6.28-11-generic/misc and then reinstall
[14:33] <cowgarden> beli, I generated many numerized files, but 2 times I got an error and no file was created, now I have to find those 2 gaps in my series
[14:33] <w0ls0n>                 vmware server 2.0 and then it works fine. I even went as far as
[14:33] <w0ls0n>                 chmod 444 /lib/modules/2.6.28-11-generic/misc/* but that doesn't
[14:33] <cowgarden> beli, yes
[14:33] <FloodBot1> w0ls0n: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:33] <w0ls0n>                 help. Any ideas?
[14:33] <tehboriz> that's weird my quassel crashed
[14:33] <cowgarden> Darmiel, you're an windows now?
[14:33] <tehboriz> okay any ideas about that site?
[14:34] <usser> w0ls0n, you have to reconfigure vmware. type sudo vmware-config.pl
[14:34] <artti> usser, that information doesn't help me.
[14:34] <Kingsy101> rob_p - it says after re-start at the GRUB bot screen.. how do I get to the GRUB boot screen?
[14:34] <tehboriz> enthbott: hi
[14:34] <gervced> bjr
[14:34] <gervced> j'ai un pb
[14:34] <beli> cowgarden: you can use a shellscript to check for existing files...and then print out: missing number XX
[14:34] <artti> I'm trying to get playlist to anykind of database, where i can work with it.
[14:34] <trident523> artti: This is loading slowly, but can you check out http://is.gd/YQP3 ?
[14:34] <gervced> g sui entrain d'installerjaunty jackalope
[14:34] <beli> cowgarden: read about bash and 'test'
[14:34] <erUSUL> !fr
[14:34] <fenn_> w0ls0n, you have to find and apply the any-any patch
[14:35] <jojonn> hi all
[14:35] <trident523> artti: That seems like a much safer way to do it, rather than compile.
[14:35] <cowgarden> beli, thx, thats what I was searching for
[14:35] <trident523> !hi | jojonn
[14:35] <w0ls0n> the any-any patch eh?
[14:35] <rob_p> Kingsy101, It's one of the first things you see after the system POST... (right after you turn the power on and the memory test, detect drives, etc.).
[14:35] <jojonn> anyone is using Wubi here ?
[14:35] <trident523> jojonn: I did for a while... why?
[14:35] <beli> cowgarden: if you are new to bash scripting.....google for bash shell scripting introduction or something like that
[14:35] <gervced> et mon ecran de laptop
[14:35] <jojonn> I don't know if it's possible to mount natif windows ntfs under ubuntu wubi
[14:35] <erieslabnx> Can I plug a wifi router into the switch to my server?
[14:36] <cowgarden> beli, did it once before..
[14:36] <gervced> tremble qd g suis
[14:36] <gervced> sur l progr d'installation
[14:36] <X11_> tehboriz: Crashed on most Linux variant mostly caused by the hardware incompatibility...
[14:36] <sky_1> hi iam looking for FTP client for console
[14:36] <erieslabnx> would I just force it to be an AP only?
[14:36] <trident523> erieslabnx: I don't really see what that has to do with ubuntu... but it must depend on the router.
[14:36] <usser> w0ls0n, any-to-any patch might not be neccessary since it worked for you before, you just have to rebuild the kernel modules since you've updated the kernel
[14:36] <w0ls0n> fenn_ this one>? http://knihovny.cvut.cz/ftp/pub/vmware/vmware-any-any-update115.tar.gz
[14:36] <Darmiel> There is an instruction on installation Ubuntu with USB Flash in Russian?
[14:36] <usser> sky_1, ftp
[14:36] <Kingsy101> rob_p - is it the screen that says press any key and you get a selection of OS types? i.e recovery mode etc?
[14:36] <sky_1> usser: yes ftp client
[14:36] <trident523> sky_1: lftp ?
[14:37] <cowgarden> Darmiel, http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/install-linux-with-ease-using-unetbootin/ thats english, but you might want to search for [install in russian] ubuntu unetbootin
[14:37] <usser> sky_1, ftp, is the ftp client for console
[14:37] <tehboriz> X11_: i'm not sure what you're talking about
[14:37] <bazhang> Darmiel, try #ubuntu-ru
[14:37] <erieslabnx> Ubuntu? the switch is plugged into my Ubuntu LTSP server
[14:37] <rob_p> Kingsy101, Yup!  :-)
[14:37] <usser> sky_1, just type ftp servername
[14:37] <w0ls0n> usser: eh ... not sure what that means
[14:37] <fenn_> w0ls0n, yes but make sure you have the latest and that it has been tested with your kernel version
[14:37] <sky_1> usser: ok
[14:37] <usser> w0ls0n, run vmware-config.pl
[14:37] <w0ls0n> ok
[14:37] <erieslabnx> I can't run CAT5 to the laptop as it is mobile
[14:37] <Kingsy101> I am at the recovery menu now, what do I want? the options are ... resume, clean, dpkg, fsck, root, xfix
[14:38] <Kingsy101> rob_p - ^^^
[14:38] <w0ls0n> please hold
[14:38] <sky_1> usser: dont know how to use it
[14:38] <usser> sky_1, type ?
[14:38] <usser> sky_1, it lists all the commands
[14:38] <rob_p> Kingsy101, But it's odd that you can't login with your credentials in the first place.  Something (or someone) has changed your system.
[14:38] <w0ls0n> jfc
[14:38] <w0ls0n> root@ubuntu:/backup/vmware-server-distrib/bin# ./vmware-config.pl
[14:38] <w0ls0n> The following VMware kernel modules have been found on your system that were
[14:38] <w0ls0n> not installed by the VMware Installer.  Please remove them then run this
[14:38] <w0ls0n> installer again.
[14:38] <FloodBot1> w0ls0n: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:38] <X11_> tehboriz: bestantiviruscheck2.com thinks that ubuntu is WINDOWS, and thinks that some programs inside my PC as trojan...
[14:38] <sky_1> usser: it say host-name [port]
[14:39] <sky_1> X11_: its fail
[14:39] <Kingsy101> rob_p - I know.. :(
[14:39] <rob_p> Kingsy101, Get a root prompt.
[14:39] <usser> sky_1, yea so ftp hostname
[14:39] <Kingsy101> ok 1 second
[14:39] <trident523> erieslabnx: that sounds like general support, I don't know if #ubuntu can help you there.
[14:39] <tehboriz> X11_: lolol i found it weird cause i'm on kubuntu and it thinks i'm windows
[14:39] <X11_> sky_1: what fail?
[14:39] <sky_1> usser: can you say me a correct command ?
[14:39] <erieslabnx> ok trident523, thanks anyway :)
[14:39] <usser> w0ls0n, thats probably modules that you put in place. they are for different kernel and vmware cant recognize them
[14:39] <sky_1> usser: i tried ftp hostname loginname password didnt work
[14:40] <beli> nzerox: found the error?
[14:40] <usser> sky_1, ftp loginname@hostname
[14:40] <X11_> tehboriz: yes, they thinks that your OS is WIN32...
[14:40] <erieslabnx> I thought it would be an Ubuntu DHCP setting is why I asked here trident523
[14:40] <usser> sky_1, i dont think you can specify the password on the command line
[14:40] <sky_1> ok
[14:40] <pvandewyngaerde> dont use ftp, it is not secure
[14:40] <sky_1> usser: invalit command
[14:41] <trident523> erieslabnx: Well, there are ways to do it, but physically being unable to run a cable would have very little to do with the software in ubuntu.
[14:41] <X11_> tehboriz: Warning!!! Your computer contains various types of adware and viruses -- that what they said?
[14:41] <rob_p> Kingsy101, For now, let's just make sure your password is what you expect it to be so at the root prompt, type in, "passwd username" where username is your username on the box.
[14:41] <sky_1> pvandewyngaerde: i dont send codes for nuclear weapons
[14:41] <sky_1> X11_: ignore it
[14:41] <erieslabnx> trident523, I will ask the ltsp guys :) thanks
[14:42] <rob_p> Kingsy101, ...and then type in the password you want associated with your username.  It will prompt you for it twice for good measure.
[14:42] <trident523> !antivirus > X11_
[14:42] <Kingsy101> rob_p - one sec I am just trying to boot again...
[14:42] <usser> sky_1, exit the ftp program if you see ftp> prompt, type exit
[14:42] <tehboriz> X11_: yeah they were bad guys trying to be bad
[14:42] <sky_1> usser: ok
[14:42] <usser> sky_1, and then type ftp hostname without username without password
[14:42] <Kingsy101> it looks like I have fixed it, with the option in the recovery mode called try and fix x server
[14:43] <Kingsy101> it seems to boot fine now
[14:43] <sky_1> usser: working thanks
[14:43] <rob_p> Kingsy101, You've got 15 minutes and then someone else will have to take over...
[14:43] <rob_p> Kingsy101, Oh, I didn't see your response.  Glad you got it to boot.
[14:44] <rob_p> :-)
[14:44] <X11_> Antivirus is something you don't need on !Linux, except where files are then passed to windows computers (perhaps using samba), See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Antivirus
[14:44] <Kingsy101> yea its just a bit weird when you get errors and they go away..
[14:45] <rob_p> Kingsy101, So you are able to login now?
[14:45] <Kingsy101> yup
[14:45] <sky_1> usser: how i can copy there / send there file ?
[14:45] <Kingsy101> but I cant install upgrades it says
[14:45] <rob_p> Kingsy101, Good!  Now you know about single-user mode.
[14:45] <rob_p> Kingsy101, Just in case you need it in the future!  :-)
[14:45] <w0ls0n> running vmware-config.pl fails for me
[14:46] <beli> sky_1: put/mput....use the help command
[14:46] <X11_> tehboriz: ha... ha... ha... and they said these too "Your system requires immediate anti viruses scan! Personal Antivirus can perform fast and free virus and malicious software scan of your computer" --- that is a joke... I am using Linux for over 5 years...
[14:46] <w0ls0n> Unable to build the vmmon module.
[14:46] <rob_p> Kingsy101, What upgrades?
[14:46] <w0ls0n> is there vmware server for ubuntu?
[14:46] <Kingsy101> "Cant upgrade: An upgrade from 'intrepid' to 'hardy' is not supported with this tool
[14:46] <w0ls0n> anyone else having this issue?
[14:46] <tehboriz> i know, i just got linux about half a month ago, awesome o/w
[14:46] <trident523> !vmware | w0ls0n
[14:46] <Kingsy101> rob_p - ^^^^ it just says 20 updates available
[14:46] <tehboriz> o/s* sucks i can't get my webcam working :(
[14:47] <rob_p> Kingsy101, Can't help you there.  My policy is to *always* start with a fresh install.  I don't upgrade from one major release to the next.
[14:47] <sky_1> usser: it say file remote:k and then file : no such file or directory
[14:47] <Kingsy101> oh ok.. no bother well thanks for your help ;)
[14:48] <Kingsy101> brb I am goign to log onto to this channel using the pc..
[14:48] <rob_p> Kingsy101, Anyway, gotta get my stuff packed up so I can head home for the day.  Take care.
[14:48] <X11_> tehboriz: its ok my friends, Linux and or Ubuntu Linux of course free from virus... have enjoy with Linu(x)(z) world...
[14:48] <w0ls0n> well
[14:48] <w0ls0n> vmware is installed and working ... im just having a minor issue
[14:49] <rob_p> w0ls0n, I've got a few minutes.  Just download the server package from vmware's site.  It comes with a nice installer script.
[14:49] <w0ls0n> uhm
[14:49] <w0ls0n> its installed and working
[14:50] <rob_p> w0ls0n, Then what's the issue/
[14:50] <rob_p> ?
[14:50] <w0ls0n> running vmware-config.pl fails for me
[14:50] <w0ls0n> Unable to build the vmmon module.
[14:50] <cah_batang> alex
[14:50] <frostburn> w0ls0n, apt-get install build-essential
[14:50] <cah_batang> alfa
[14:50] <rob_p> w0ls0n, Perhaps missing some of your development tools, libs, etc?
[14:51] <w0ls0n> after that run my installer
[14:51] <w0ls0n> ?
[14:51] <frostburn> yes
[14:52] <trident523>  hideadd eval set activity_hide_targets $activity_hide_targets $-
[14:52] <trident523> ... augh
[14:52] <rob_p> w0ls0n, ...but if you already have it installed and working, why are you running the config utility again?  (and how did you get it to run the first time, for that matter?)
[14:52] <Kingsy101> anyone seen this error before ---> http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2h5ilj8&s=5 <----
[14:52] <w0ls0n> rob_p read my pm. carelly.
[14:53] <linduxed> something is making my harddive go "tick tack tick tack"
[14:53] <w0ls0n> carefully that is
[14:53] <linduxed> i have no idea what, any process that could be the culprit?
[14:53] <w0ls0n> linduxed: sounds like your drive is failing
[14:53] <trident523> linduxed: If it's an unusual sound, your HD might be failing.
[14:53] <w0ls0n> linduxed: backup and replace asap!
[14:53] <linduxed> hmmm, then indeed it might
[14:53] <w0ls0n> config still fails
[14:53] <rob_p> w0ls0n, Ok.  Well I missed that the first time.
[14:53] <w0ls0n> np man :-)
[14:54] <erUSUL> !webcam
[14:54] <linduxed> the thing is though that it doesnt do the sound when im in gdm
[14:54] <rob_p> w0ls0n, So a kernel update started all this mess?
[14:55] <trident523> linduxed: It's still pretty bad if it's making a different sound than normally running.
[14:55] <artti> trident523, i have problem inserting key for the PPA.
[14:55] <linduxed> trident523: well normally there's no sound
[14:56] <trident523> !badsig | artti
[14:56] <trident523> artti: oh wait.
[14:56] <trident523> !ppagpg | artti
[14:56] <rob_p> w0ls0n, I've had that happen and I had to remove the old kernel and all the development header files associated with it and then make sure you have the kernel headers for your current running kernel.  After that, you should be able to run the vmware config utility.
[14:57] <w0ls0n> rob_p: well the issue is when I do updates via the pkg mgr is when I start having problems
[14:58] <Kingsy101> anyone seen this error before ---> http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2h5ilj8&s=5 <----
[14:58] <w0ls0n> ah, ha!
[14:58] <w0ls0n> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware/Server
[14:58] <rob_p> w0ls0n, The package manager isn't going to satisfy the updates required for kernel modules you built for vmware against an older kernel.  That's why I'm asking if you recently pulled down an updated kernel.
[14:58] <w0ls0n> I am going to reinstall my box and run through those steps
[14:58] <enthdegree> does anyone know how to pipe the output of one command to the end of another?
[14:58] <trident523> Kingsy101: Either you've installed something custom from a repo that's newer than normal... or you have a broken package.
[14:59] <w0ls0n> oh
[14:59] <w0ls0n> I have no idea
[14:59] <ircnickiuse> how much ram does 32bit linux support?
[14:59] <rob_p> w0ls0n, It's probably pretty easy to fix.  A reload is sorta drastic, don't you think?
[14:59] <Kingsy101> trident253 - so how should I go about fixing it
[14:59] <trident523> ircnickiuse: Same as windows, up to 4GB I think.
[14:59] <trident523> Kingsy101: Try opening synaptic and click mark upgradeable.
[15:00] <ircnickiuse> trident523, yeah? wha? crap. so PAE is on windows?
[15:00] <frostburn> ircnickiuse, trident523, incorrect, it supports hundreds of gigabytes, if not more
[15:00] <w0ls0n> I just reinstalled it 2 days ago anyways
[15:00] <Kingsy101> ok 1 sec
[15:00] <w0ls0n> no big deal
[15:00] <ircnickiuse> frostburn, that is what I thoguth
[15:00] <rob_p> w0ls0n, I'd purge your old kernel and old kernel-headers, verify you have the current kernel headers and then rerun the vmware config script.
[15:00] <ircnickiuse> thought*
[15:00] <w0ls0n> ill let you know if I have any other issues. Thats install is a bit more than what I do.
[15:00] <w0ls0n> thanks!
[15:00] <trident523> frostburn: 32bit dosen't?
[15:00] <Dink> Is there a way to ignore this error and continue a package installation "trying to overwrite `/usr/share/applications', which is also in package"
[15:00] <rob_p> w0ls0n, That will probably solve your issue... but whatever.  Ok, good luck.
[15:01] <arianit> hello my nvidia x server settings doesn't save resolution when ubuntu is restarted
[15:01] <arianit> what could be the rpboem
[15:01] <frostburn> trident523, i have boxes with 16gb of ram on a 32bit kernel
[15:01] <arianit> *problem :)
[15:01] <gpled> ubuntu 9.04.  when ever i get updates, brasero shows up, but i can not check it.  any idea whats going on?
[15:01] <trident523> frostburn: Do they show 16gb?
[15:02] <frostburn> trident523, yes and use it
[15:02] <trident523> !x | arianit
[15:02] <trident523> frostburn: I stand corrected, than. :P
[15:02] <arianit> ubottu: thank you, I'll try that
[15:02] <trident523> gpled: Did you install anything custom that is newer than the stuff in the repos?
[15:03] <sun_> 大家说话阿
[15:03] <Ben_Cs> hello. i have a Logiteck trackman marble. and ubuntu Hardy. and i want to make a scrolling effect using the left small button. i found:https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Logitech_Marblemouse_USB             but i don't have a file named mouse-wheel.fdi . So, does hal handle it in hardy? if so, what should i do?
[15:03] <ringo999> hi folks, i think i managed to solve my german keyboard on macbook problem, the following command helped: setxkbmap -option -option lv3:rwin_switch,apple:badmap Question: so where should I place the command so everytime I boot the problem is fixed?
[15:03] <gpled> trident523: vary good chance i have, but i dont recall doing that
[15:03] <dajhorn> Dink: Run `dpkg --force-help` at a prompt.
[15:03] <sun_> 我是新来的，你们说话看看是啥样子地
[15:03] <trident523> !jp | sun_
[15:03] <edbian> ringo999: What you are talking about is a boot script
[15:03] <Pici> 1zh | sun_
[15:03] <Pici> !zh | sun_
[15:04] <trident523> oh dang.
[15:04] <Dink> dajhorn, I tried the --force-overwrite-dir but got same error
[15:04] <edbian> ringo999: Have you ever written a script before?
[15:04] <grandema2atma> hallo I'm looking for a game like corewars,crobots,... that you can play with a friend. Does anybody know something like that?
[15:04] <trident523> sorry sun_ !
[15:04] <ringo999> edbian: the question is also why don't the original keyboard model/layouts work?
[15:04] <mansour> please i have a problem with my application menu
[15:04] <Dink> nvm got it needed it without -dir
[15:04] <dajhorn> Dink: sudo dpkg --install --force-all badpackage.deb might do it.  Note that forcing dpkg can destroy the packaging system.
[15:04] <mansour> can any help me to show it
[15:04] <scunizi> grandema2atma: not sure what those games are but you might want to check out www.playdeb.net to see if something there strikes your fancy
[15:05] <Ben_Cs> anyone please?
[15:06] <grandema2atma> scunizi: they are programming game: you have to program a robot in some sort of programming language, and it will move in the world fighting other robots.
[15:07] <ringo999> where does ubuntu save xkbmap?
[15:07] <ringo999> or where does it set it on bootup?
[15:09] <mathew> hey, my laptop using ubuntu has just crashed, but i can ping it from other computers is there a default remote access tool i can use i dont want to reboot its in the middle of installing something
[15:10] <artti> trident523, well there was wrong key, i think, and i replaced long dash with two short dashes... Hope it now works.
[15:11] <Nava2> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7438670#post7438670 <- Could someone look at this? :(
[15:11] <Kingsy101> trident253 - ok I did it with synaptic and got this error... ---> http://pastie.org/508480
[15:11] <helper> hello need help i want to know NIS for what it use i read, i can setup /etc/passwd using NIS, but what the role of it between the client and server! thanks
[15:11] <CtipL> microphone input is of single channel and records only on the left side when I use Audacious or Gstreamer. How to record to both sides at once???
[15:11] <T3rmInAt0r> hey folks, when I try libcap sniffer programms I get : no suitable device found
[15:11] <T3rmInAt0r>    (ethernet isn't a suitable device?)
[15:12] <konza> hi
[15:12] <konza> hi
[15:12] <Kingsy101> and now for some reason I have got like a stop sign with the upgrades button usually is in the top right corner of the screen
[15:12] <Kingsy101> when you click it it says ---> Software index is broken
[15:13] <Kingsy101> can anyone help?
[15:14] <gharz> guys, i've lampp installed in my /opt folder... my question is... how do i start lampp when i boot my machine? i believe i need to be root to start this... please help. can't find it in google.
[15:14] <mibuntu> hi, would anyone be able to help me get a netbook webcam working?
[15:14] <aditya> can someone help me with a small problem --- when i use the command "pon dsl-provider" to connect onto the net, i get a msg saying only members of the "dip" group can use pon --i created this group and added myself to it but still i get the same error--any way to sort it out?
[15:14] <mibuntu> never mind, ill figure it out another time
[15:15] <mibuntu> sorry
[15:16] <qwerty123> Does Adobe Illustartor CS3 work on WINE ?
[15:16] <Pici> !appdb | qwerty123
[15:16] <qwerty123> Tried there but nothing
[15:16] <_nix_> !Windows
[15:16] <norpan111> Is there any way to change GDM theme? i cant find any settings for this?
[15:17] <norpan111> There is "gdm themes" installed in synaptic by default. but how do i change these?
[15:17] <_nix_> heh its listed as a bug
[15:17] <norpan111> I know you could do it in gutsy...
[15:17] <qwerty123> will that help me ?
[15:18] <norpan111> NEvermind, i found it :P
[15:18] <X11> qwerty123: I don't think so...
[15:19] <Kingsy101> can anyone help with my issue?
[15:19] <paolo88> hi! I have installed nvidia driver on my notebook (but with open driver is the same thing), the resolution is max 1280x800. For me it's very low. Anyone can help me?
[15:20] <lepiaf> z
[15:20] <lepiaf> hi
[15:20] <qwerty123> I really need help getting these installed !!
[15:20] <Nehyx> !hi | lepiaf
[15:20] <xcerca> i'm using a card that has an alsa driver - untill a few days ago it worked fine , but now i have to turn the volume all the way up and i can still barley hear anything,  is there a place that i can control this ?
[15:21] <fha> wallow........
[15:21] <LargePrime> greetings volunteers!  Looking to upgrade to 9.04, but I have an ATI x600 card, and the internets are abuzz with whispers of danger.  should I listen to the whispers and stay put?
[15:21] <LargePrime> Ubuntu has changed its name?
[15:22] <tehboriz> lol
[15:22] <_nix_> LargePrime: a user called ubuntu has changed his/her name
[15:22] <LargePrime> so no then?
[15:22] <xcerca> LargePrime - i would go ahead
[15:23] <xcerca> the ATI driver is the same
[15:23] <dgeary2> LargePrime, if you're feeling cautious then try out the live cd first...
[15:24] <qwerty123> Psykopaten: PM!!
[15:24] <truthordare> i know ifconfig cant be saved... but can anyone tell where can i save my current networking config? or which file to edit?? i looked at /etc/network/interfaces but that doesnt have the config of my gnome nm-connection-editor.. where is that file stored?
[15:24] <LargePrime> sure, live cd.  I figured you all are on the front lines, so I could get the latest dope.  try a google of 'ubuntu 9.04 ati fglrx'
[15:25] <LargePrime> thanks for the lol tehboriz
[15:25] <erUSUL> truthordare: nm-connection-editor uses gconf not a file
[15:25] <truthordare> also.. i am accessing using nxclient... the nm-connections-editor which i take from sudo and su.. doesnt allow me to change/add any values.. it says policy kit error..
[15:26] <squidge> Hi.  Where is the setting to enable menu items in GTK applications to have user-configurable keyboard shortcuts?
[15:26] <crisb2010> hi
[15:26] <Sky[x]> any idea why webcam on zoneminder not work in cheese i can see picture
[15:26] <jerto> Hi, I have a separate x screen config in Jaunty and it seems that each time I want to launch an application in screen 1 it opens in screen 0. Anyone knows how to fix this ?
[15:26] <SuperRoach> I'm setting up proftpd for ftp access to a vps. When logging in to it, I can view files, get get a 550 error when trying to upload files/folders. What should I look at?
[15:26] <crisb2010> does anyone know what could be the reason that the shutdown command inside my script, which gets called by sudo crontab doesn't get executed?
[15:26] <truthordare> so what can i do to effect the changes?? i have initially configured it using a monitor.. but i have removed th monitor.. dont tell me i have to put it back in just for this ;(
[15:26] <crisb2010> while the script itself is called
[15:27] <dgeary2> Sky[x], i'm having the same problem... i think zoneminder is picky about its cameras
[15:27] <LargePrime> wow
[15:27] <crisb2010> when i called it manually from the command line it works fine btw
[15:28] <helper> Does Active Directory owned by NIS server for example config the user using NIS server , and using NIS client can log in from the config of NIS server and NIS client can't modify his user, need from NIS server-Am i Right? Thanks=)
[15:29] <AceKing> I just installed Ubuntu 9.04 on a PC. When it boots up to the desktop the screen goes black and says "input signal out of range" Any ideas how to resolve this issue?
[15:29] <tehboriz> np LargePrime
[15:30] <SuperRoach> AceKing, is it a crt?
[15:31] <AceKing> SuperRoach: What is a crt?
[15:31] <SuperRoach> a big monitor
[15:31] <truthordare> guys..please tell me..is there a way to edit gconf? or anyother way i could save my ifconfig?
[15:31] <rich____> cathode ray tube?
[15:32] <rich____> gconf-editor
[15:32] <Kingsy101> ok can someone help me here, I have just re-started a pc (ubuntu) and when it gets to the GUI log in screen both the keyboard and mouse arnt working at all
[15:32] <AceKing> It's a PCI video card. not PCIe
[15:32] <thunder> truthordare ifconfig > filename
[15:32] <Kingsy101> BUT they work up until then, like for example I can get into recovery mode by pressing any key etc...
[15:33] <cabrey> truthordare, what are you trying to do?
[15:33] <Kingsy101> any ideas?
[15:33] <rich____> Kingsy101, what vs of ubuntu?
[15:33] <AceKing> Oh yeah, I'm also running through a KVM switch, and the computer I'm on right now is running Ubuntu 9.04 fine through it
[15:33] <icqn> !info nclass
[15:33] <Kingsy101> rich___ - 8.10
[15:34] <rolly2> how do I mount the /home partition that I have so it can be used as the home dir of a new install?
[15:34] <rich____> did you change anything / update anything before it broke?
[15:34] <n0mic> hi i am trying to enable ctrl-alt-backspace again in jaunty --- i have been told to get the package 'dontzap' using "sudo apt-get install dontzap" and i just get "E: Couldn't find package dontzap"  any ideas anyone?
[15:34] <stream13> Sorry, can someone tell me, where can I RTFM about Apache?
[15:34] <rolly2> stream13-> google for it?
[15:34] <Kingsy101> rich___ - yeh I went into the terminal and typed sudo apt-get install -f
[15:35] <Kingsy101> this error in synaptic told me to do that because the updates werent installing prroperly
[15:35] <AceKing> SuperRoach: any ideas?
[15:36] <rich____> xorg 7.4 relies on hal for hardware detection, rather than xorg.conf
[15:36] <rich____> sounds like you upgraded to 7.4 and it broke
[15:36] <Kingsy101> rich___ - what should I do about it?
[15:37] <lfaraone> Hi, how do I execute a command that has args with gksudo? (ie "bash --version"). Usually when I try that it attempts to interpret -- as a parameter to gksudo itself.
[15:37] <rich____> try:
[15:37] <rich____>   Option          "AllowEmptyInput" "off"
[15:37] <rich____>  Option          "AutoAddDevices" "off"
[15:37] <Kingsy101> what do you mean?
[15:37] <rich____> added to xorg.conf
[15:37] <Kingsy101> how do I try that?
[15:37] <n0mic> okm
[15:37] <stream13> rolly2->Goolge sucks, I've been googling for half an hour... But thanks...
[15:37] <n0mic> ok figured it6 its my package lists
[15:37] <Kingsy101> I cant get into the operating system because the keyboard and mouse isnt working in the GUI
[15:37] <rich____> ok
[15:38] <rich____> boot into a command line terminal
[15:38] <Pici> stream13: apache.org or #apache
[15:38] <rich____> then use nano to edit the file
[15:38] <Kingsy101> ok 1 second
[15:38] <lfaraone> Pici: he lift
[15:38] <RKR> My synaptic package manager does not show third party packages list even after adding the apt line
[15:38] <lfaraone> Pici: *left
[15:38] <rich____> sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[15:39] <X11> rolly2: be careful, if you already have same new user as existing user dir under such home partition then the old configurations would be overwriten...
[15:39] <MK13> i was recently using gftp to download a file to a ntfs partition but the download got stalled and now I have two folders that won't ubuntu delete (says no such directory) on the ntfs system and vista can't even see them. Any ideas?
[15:39] <[Crussd2]> !host
[15:39] <A4Tech> hi all
[15:40] <rolly2> X11 what over-writes the old one? i do have same user name from the old, same id on /etc/passwd
[15:40] <Kingsy101> rich___ - ok I am in that file now
[15:40] <rich____> add the lines:
[15:40] <rich____>  Option          "AllowEmptyInput" "off"
[15:40] <rich____> Option          "AutoAddDevices" "off"
[15:40] <rich____> and save
[15:40] <Kingsy101> where? at the bottom?
[15:40] <rich____> yeah
[15:41] <Kingsy101> ok 2 sseconds
[15:41] <truthordare> "policy-ket authorization could not be created invalid action id"
[15:41] <truthordare> any solution?
[15:41] <rich____> oh hangon sorry, it needs to be in the server section
[15:41] <RKR> Why nobody is replying me whenever i ask any question?
[15:42] <coz_> RKR,  I didnt see your question and most likely no one knows the answer.....could you repeat please
[15:42] <Kingsy101> ok done
[15:42] <rich____> Kings I told you wrongly, it needs to be in the serverFlads sectiobn
[15:42] <rich____> sorry
[15:42] <Kingsy101> I added it like Option "AllowEmptyInput" "off"   <--- that look ok ?
[15:42] <A4Tech> What do I do on my second desktop has no icons and it does not allocate
[15:42] <RKR> My synaptic package manager does not show third party packages list even after adding the apt line in the sources.list and updated
[15:42] <LargePrime> RKR: Its your outfit.  terribly trendy
[15:43] <Kingsy101> rich___ - ^^^
[15:43] <R_Dday> How do I get stats on my ubuntu box
[15:43] <Socah> Hello. Is there any way to turn knotify off? I'm using GNOME with few kde apps, and it's a bit annoying when it try to starts.
[15:43] <R_Dday> memorry, space and all that
[15:43] <A4Tech> But on the first desktop, all right, tell how to fix the problem?
[15:43] <X11> rolly2: sorry, I'd mean: overwritting any hidden configuration on /home/[user]... if you already have such /home/old_user then you create user with e.g. old_user and you want it exist on such /home partition...
[15:43] <roobly_roo> R_Dday: Memory: free, Space: df -h
[15:44] <Kingsy101> rich___ - what do you mean? should I exit that file without saving then?
[15:44] <rich____> add this on the line above
[15:44] <rich____> Section "ServerFlags"
[15:44] <rich____> and this on the line bellow the two new lines
[15:44] <rich____> EndSection
[15:44] <MK13> I see two folders on an ntfs file system that show up in nautilus, but when i tried to delete them from nautilus and cli, It say there is no such directory.
[15:44] <Kingsy101> ok done
[15:44] <AceKing> Can someone help me with an "input signal out of range" error after I boot up to the desktop? My screen just goes black and I get that message
[15:44] <rich____> save it
[15:45] <rich____> (should look like this)
[15:45] <rich____> Section "ServerFlags"
[15:45] <Kingsy101> rich___ - now what? save and re-start?
[15:45] <rich____> Option          "AllowEmptyInput" "off"
[15:45] <rich____> Option          "AutoAddDevices" "off"
[15:45] <rich____> EndSection
[15:45] <FloodBot1> rich____: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:45] <rich____> you can type startx
[15:45] <rolly2> X11 on the new, i only have /  i dont know why the install did such, so do i have to create a dir  /home so the boot process will mount the home dirs into /home ?
[15:45] <rich____> to start x
[15:45] <Kingsy101> rich___ - it does but I guess the use of tabs isnt neccessary?
[15:46] <rich____> im not 100% sure
[15:46] <cankoy> RKR: dont you see it when you click Origin?
[15:46] <rich____> i would use tabs
[15:46] <rich____> like the entries above
[15:47] <RKR>  cankoy: Yes but i cant see the package listed there in Synaptic
[15:47] <rebgil> hi I just installed 9.04 on my hp nx6325 laptop and find that the arch is set to x86_64, I find that some applications don't know what to do with that arch, shouldn't it be amd64 or something else?
[15:47] <Kingsy101> ok the mouse and keyboard are working now.. :) I think
[15:47] <rich____> good work!
[15:47] <Kingsy101> rich___ - I am gonna do a full re-start see if it works
[15:48] <RKR>  cankoy: I added the skype apt line in the sources.list file and i had run sudo apt-get update and even i restarted my system.
[15:48] <X11> AceKing: try to start ubuntu in recovery mode and try to fix X server from there...
[15:48] <A4Tech> What do I do on my second desktop has no icons and it does not allocate. But on the first desktop, all right, tell how to fix the problem?
[15:48] <cankoy> RKR: what's the apt line? let me try it..
[15:49] <Kingsy101> rich___ - ok its working again, I am not sure why that happened tho.. can you tell me?
[15:49] <RKR> just one minute
[15:49] <alfatec> hi everybody
[15:50] <alfatec> i have a liltle problem in my laptop
[15:50] <rich____> yes
[15:50] <AceKing> X11: I tried hitting ESC when the system was starting and went into recovery mode. I clicked on "Try to auto repair graphics" but it didn't work
[15:50] <rich____> i blame the developers :)
[15:50] <rich____> xorg has been changed to use HAL to detect screens / keyboards etc
[15:51] <rich____> HAL didnt correctly detect your keyboard and mouse, so Xorg didnt add them as devices
[15:51] <Kingsy101> rich____ - oh right.. I see,,
[15:51] <AceKing> X11: is that what you meant?
[15:51] <X11> rolly2: if you already have /home partition and you want it mounted in new installation then you have edit the /etc/fstab
[15:51] <magnetron> HAL didn't detect them because they didn't exist
[15:51] <Kingsy101> rich____ - so what now? I mean I am back in the GUI can I just continue with the updates? or will it break again?
[15:51] <RKR>   cankoy:  deb http://download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian/ stable non-free  iam using ubuntu9.04
[15:51] <rich____> You added options to tell xorg to not auto add devices with hal and to always makes sure there are keyboards/mouse if possible
[15:52] <rich____> no your all good
[15:52] <_tim_> hi, is there a way to "move" an "install inside windows"-ubuntu to its own partition?
[15:52] <Kingsy101> ok lets give it a shot
[15:52] <X11> AceKing: yes... but sorry if that not work. Ok what the monitor your use? Size? LCD or Tube?
[15:52] <cankoy> RKR: that is not valid anymore, go directly download the deb from http://www.skype.com/intl/en/download/skype/linux/choose/
[15:52] <Kingsy101> rich____ - 2 seconds
[15:53] <AceKing> 19" LCD
[15:53] <gharz> guys, i'm trying to start lampp on startup but when i ran  sudo update-rc.d -f lampp multiuser... i get this message update-rc.d: warning: multiuser is deprecated; specify runlevels manually
[15:53] <gharz>  System startup links for /etc/init.d/lampp already exist. how do i fix this?
[15:53] <truthordare> i am getting this error when i try to configure /etc/network/interface and restart /etc/init.d/networking : "Ignoring unknown interface eth0=eth0"
[15:53] <Kingsy101> rich____ - you around for a little longer ?
[15:53] <RKR> cankoy: its OKay but i need to install from the synaptic package manager becas i want to use UCK to customize my ubuntu for my friends
[15:54] <rich____> yes
[15:54] <rich____> _tim_
[15:54] <rich____> _tim_ see http://flip.netzbeben.de/2008/08/move-wubi-installation-ubuntu-on-windows-to-a-native-ubuntu-system/
[15:54] <AceKing> X11: 19" LCD but I am also running off of a KVM switch. I am running the computer I am on off the same KVM switch which also runs Ubuntu 9.04
[15:54] <Kingsy101> rich____ - well I want to continue installing the upgrades but when I do I get this error... well more like a notice.. 1 sec
[15:55] <Hajuu> Hey guys, Anyone here had any luck installing vmware-tools on jaunty? I get like hundreds of syntax warnings/errors when trying to build the modules, then it fails to build them all.
[15:55] <Hajuu> Been trying for like 3 hours
[15:55] <Hajuu> :(
[15:55] <X11> AceKing: it is little strange that LCD just out of range, ok try to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf on Monitor section...
[15:55] <_tim_> rich____: thanks alot!
[15:56] <rich____> X11 - xrandr shows available modes
[15:56] <Ben_Cs> hello. how in 8.04 do i set the right small button as middle click in Logitech Trackman Marble?
[15:56] <AceKing> X11: is there a way I can do that before it boots up?
[15:56] <RKR> cankoy: are u online?
[15:56] <cdavis> I have an alias line reading root: cdavis but postfix still sends mail for root to root? What am I doing wrong?
[15:56] <Kingsy101> http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/2696/screenshotgsv.png
[15:56] <Kingsy101> rich____ - ^^^
[15:57] <Kingsy101> what should I do with that?
[15:57] <rich____> close synaptic
[15:57] <MK13> I have a file on an ntfs partition that ubuntu can see in nautilus but when I try to delete it i get a message that the directory doesn't exist, how can I get it to see the directory or force the deletion?
[15:57] <X11> rich_____: yes you right... but xrandr do not change xorg.conf
[15:57] <rich____> open a terminal
[15:57] <rich____> type:
[15:58] <rich____> sudo apt-get update
[15:58] <Kingsy101> rich___ - is this for me?
[15:58] <rich____> yes
[15:58] <rich____> sorry
[15:58] <Ben_Cs> no mouse config experts here?
[15:58] <Kingsy101> ok 1 sec
[15:58] <kekko> ciao
[15:58] <Hajuu> Hey guys, Anyone here had any luck installing vmware-tools on jaunty? I get like hundreds of syntax warnings/errors when trying to build the modules, then it fails to build them all.
[15:58] <Hajuu> Been trying for like 3 hours
[15:58] <Kingsy101> rich___ - ok thats done....
[15:58] <cankoy> RKR: start synaptic, click Origin, then click download.skype.com/non-free on the left, and you should see it there.
[15:58] <Kingsy101> now what?
[15:58] <rich____> Ben_C check out http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=212946
[15:59] <garuda> i can't install 174f:6a31 Syntek Web Cam - Asus A8J, F3S, F5R, VX2S, V1S
[15:59] <garuda> ]
[15:59] <rich____> did you get any errors?
[15:59] <rich____> Kings
[15:59] <toast> oi
[15:59] <Kingsy101> rich____ - no
[15:59] <RKR> cankoy: hi i have tried in my system already
[15:59] <toast> is there a way to replace tabs in a file by 2 paces ?
[15:59] <truthordare> okay ppl... someone gotta help.. all my ways have exhausted.. i need to make my current network changes permenent.. i dont wanna keep doing thsi everytime i take remote.. ;(
[15:59] <Kingsy101> rich____ - but it did it pretty fast..
[15:59] <toast> with the cmd expand?
[15:59] <Vlet> Kingsy101: instead of using the update tool, try instead executing: sudo apt-get update
[15:59] <rich____> kings - next:
[15:59] <rich____> sudo apt-get upgrade
[15:59] <Vlet> Kingsy101: so you can see the actual errors
[15:59] <Kingsy101> ok 1 sec
[16:00] <steven_> hi
[16:00] <cdavis> I have an alias line reading root: cdavis but postfix still sends mail for root to root? What am I doing wrong?
[16:00] <steven_> i want to use yahoo messenger
[16:00] <steven_> how to install
[16:00] <X11> AceKing: once again boot ubuntu in recovery mode and drop as root mode. See # man xorg.conf before further decide to edit xorg.conf. On recovery mode, use nano to edit xorg.conf
[16:00] <rich____> steve: pidgin does yahoo
[16:00] <Vlet> !pidgin | steven_
[16:00] <rich____> steve: sudo apt-get install pidgin
[16:01] <AceKing> X11: Thank you
[16:01] <steven_> thanks
[16:01] <steven_> but how to install
[16:01] <cankoy> RKR: make sure its box is clicked in software sources, and press Reload. Cause it works for me now.
[16:01] <steven_> i'm beginer use ubuntu
[16:01] <cabrey> steven_, it is already installed if you have ubuntu
[16:01] <rich____> steve: open synaptic and search for pidgin
[16:02] <steven_> i have gaim here
[16:02] <cabrey> steven_, Applications > Internet > Pidgin Instant Messenger
[16:02] <steven_> but i don't know to install it
[16:02] <rich____> gaim is the old name for pidgin
[16:02] <RKR> cankoy: just one min
[16:02] <X11> AceKing: just try my friend, and I am sorry if this not solve the problem...
[16:02] <rich____> look in internet section of applications
[16:02] <cabrey> steven_, what version of ubuntu do you have?
[16:02] <steven_> 9.04
[16:02] <Kingsy101> ok done.. its asking to re-start.. so fingers crossed.. beb
[16:02] <Kingsy101> brb
[16:02] <cabrey> it's called Pidgin, not Gaim in 9.04
[16:02] <steven_> could you have me this problem
[16:03] <rich____> steve: open synaptic, search for pidgin
[16:03] <cabrey> steven_,  Applications > Internet > Pidgin Instant Messenger
[16:03] <JasonMoss> So if I need to make sure i "restart my shell" after making some changes to an /etc/profile file what does that entail? Closing the terminal, and reopening another one? Exiting out of an ssh session and opening another one?
[16:03] <L3dPlatedLinux> ok I am in ubuntu and am having a issue joining serveral .flv files     I was told to use cat ( yes with one > and then with two ) now with that said it seemed to have worked the files size what right on the money but its playback time was just the first added vid.? any ideas on what I can do in ubuntu to join these files and I used httpripper to get the vids dont know if that makes a diff or not oh and I am in 9.04
[16:03] <cabrey> JasonMoss, exec bash -l
[16:03] <JasonMoss> cabrey: thanks
[16:04] <Yakibeef> How do you install KDE if your using Gnome currently?
[16:04] <roobly_roo> JasonMoss: It's not necessary to restart your shell upon changing the profile.
[16:04] <MK13> is there a way to run a fsck for an ntfs partition?
[16:04] <grawity> L3dPlatedLinux: joining files with 'cat' is generally a bad idea when joining anything other than plain text files.
[16:04] <roobly_roo> JasonMoss: Use the program 'source' and give it the path of the updated profile.
[16:04] <L3dPlatedLinux> grawity,  oh ok good to know
[16:04] <Vlet> Yakibeef: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[16:05] <L3dPlatedLinux> grawity,  is there another way?
[16:05] <cabrey> roobly_roo, if he made changes to bash settings he does have to restart bash
[16:05] <RKR> cankoy: Thankyou , Thankyou so much! its working for me now
[16:05] <Yakibeef> Vlet, thanks
[16:05] <grawity> L3dPlatedLinux: It all depends on what kind of files you're trying to join.
[16:05] <L3dPlatedLinux> grawity,  .flv's
[16:05] <rich____> L3 - ffmpeg will do it, mencoder will do it too
[16:05] <RKR> cankoy: Do you have any idea about UCK?
[16:05] <cabrey> !tab | rich____
[16:06] <rich____> cabrey,
[16:06] <rich____> i see
[16:06] <rich____> thanks
[16:06] <rich____> :)
[16:06] <FloodBot1> rich____: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:06] <cabrey> ^ FloodBot1 is angry
[16:06] <harshal> query %2
[16:06]  * Vlet sucks up to Floodbot1
[16:06] <X11> MK13: I don't think so...
[16:07] <dobre_zuo> hi
[16:07] <sarthor> Hi, there is chat like HI5, Name is beylux , i want to block this messenger from my network, any one know the port for that messenger,
[16:07] <harshal> hi
[16:07] <LargePrime> what is the latest catalyst driver version?
[16:07] <harshal>  i m new to linux
[16:07] <cabrey> LargePrime, 9.5
[16:07] <Hajuu> LargePrime: 9.6.7
[16:07] <MK13> X11: i think i messed up the inode for a file on an ntfs partition and now it wont let me delete the file, says it doesn't exist
[16:08] <RKR> harshal: Tell me what do you want?
[16:08] <harshal> can nebody tell me how to get well versed with xchat
[16:08] <sarthor> the most informing word in Linux channels "I am new to Linux"
[16:08] <Hajuu> harshal: have some good conversations?
[16:08] <LargePrime> thanks.  did they add back older card support removed in 9.4? http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/9.4
[16:08] <ZabaQ> i've upgraded from intrepid to jaunty and it's gone horribly wrong.
[16:08] <dobre_zuo> can i install packages signed 9.04 to 9.10 karmic?
[16:08] <Hajuu> LargePrime: its in a seperate package now
[16:08] <Hajuu> the ati-legacy package
[16:08] <harshal> not really
[16:08] <RKR> harshal: As a beginer pidgin will be better for you
[16:09] <sysdoc> What is the name of the package that adds a Command Prompt (like in windohs) to nautilus?
[16:09] <cabrey> LargePrime, nope. that's ATI for ya
[16:09] <sarthor> Hi, there is chat like HI5, Name is beylux , i want to block this messenger from my network, any one know the port for that messenger,
[16:09] <zagabar1> I plugged a USB-cam into my ubuntu system and I can see it in lsusb. Can I somehow use mplayer or something to view what it sees?
[16:09] <Vlet> harshal: http://www.xchat.org/docs/ should help ya out
[16:09] <sarthor> sorry for pasting again..
[16:09] <X11> MK13: sorry, don't mean to override out from ubuntu, but I use Puppy Linux to fix such problem...
[16:09] <sarthor> miss pasted :)
[16:09] <Hajuu> You are a puppy linux.
[16:09] <RKR> cankoy: Are you there?
[16:10] <MK13> X11: ahhh, how would it be done in puppy? (i have it to keep an older pc alive)
[16:10] <ZabaQ> Is there anyway I can stop jaunty from starting X when I boot so I can get into the command line before the X Server corrupts video beyond a hope of a hope?
[16:10] <darnell> anyone use unetbootin?
[16:10] <ZabaQ> gdm kicks in before I can do anything!
[16:10] <Hajuu> cause you suck
[16:10] <rich____> ZabaQ, single user mode
[16:10] <Vlet> ZabaQ: just hit ctrl-alt-f2
[16:10] <steven_> thanks everyone
[16:11] <ZabaQ> thanks.
[16:11] <steven_> i did it
[16:11] <X11> MK13: run from Live CD...
[16:11] <Hajuu> DONT
[16:11] <truthordare> which rc must i put a custom script so that it executes at boottime?
[16:11] <Hajuu> ITS A TRAP
[16:11] <Hajuu> xD
[16:11] <FloodBot1> Hajuu: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:11] <Mike_lifeguard> ZabaQ: you can change your session to a failsafe terminal or something
[16:11] <truthordare> default install of ubuntu 9.04 64bit
[16:11] <remington> whenever i set a resolution for my external monitor, the netbook monitor resets to that resolution, too
[16:11] <cabrey> truthordare, use /etc/rc.local
[16:11] <wp_> join ##php
[16:11] <MK13> X11: and?
[16:12] <truthordare> okay.. thanks...
[16:12] <remington> anybody knows how to set up 2 different resolutions with xrandr?
[16:12] <Hajuu> impossible.
[16:13] <cabrey> Hajuu, stop, seriously
[16:13] <Pumpkins1979> #archlinux
[16:13] <X11> MK13: mount that partition. It should easy to delete such file or dir because the ROX (file manager for puppy) ignore NTFSs MFT.
[16:13] <cabrey> Pumpkins1979, /join #archlinux
[16:14] <Hajuu> lol oh, well as long as you are *serious*
[16:14] <sarthor> Hi, there is chat like HI5, Name is beylux , i want to block this messenger from my network, any one know the port for that messenger,
[16:14] <MK13> X11: will try, thnx
[16:14] <sky_1> why i cant create NTFS partition with gparted ?
[16:14] <AceKing> X11: If I can bother you one more time.. I took out the PCI graphics card and put the monitor back to the VGA output that's built into the motherboard. The problem why I changed it in the first place was because I can't get a resolution higher than 800 x 600.
[16:14] <X11> MK13: good luck my friend...
[16:14] <Authority> does dpkg have a similar function to 'rpm -V' (verify integrity of installed package)?
[16:14] <b0xxy> drivers
[16:15] <Mike_lifeguard> sky_1: you need ntfstools (I think that's what the package is called, I could be wrong)
[16:15] <cabrey> Authority, what do you mean by verify?
[16:15] <cabrey> Authority, check the signature?
[16:15] <Mike_lifeguard> sky_1: Gparted is a graphical frontend to parted, a commandline tool. Parted uses a bunch of other tools to actually do it's work.
[16:15] <aygeX> anyone german here?
[16:15] <AceKing> X11: I tried to install the Nvidia 180 driver, but I was getting the out of range signal with that installed
[16:16] <X11> AceKing: what is your PC architecture?
[16:16] <Authority> cabrey: I think some files may have been changed or corrupted, I would like to verify they are still as they should be
[16:16] <Mike_lifeguard> aygeX: try #ubuntu-de
[16:16] <cabrey> AceKing, use nvidia-settings
[16:16] <cabrey> !de
[16:16] <tiyowan> !de > aygeX
[16:16] <roobly_roo> sky_1: To my best understanding, there is no open source driver capable of creating a ntfs partition.  Ntfs is proprietary, and much of the specifications are unknown; just enough to read/edit existing ones.
[16:16] <aygeX> ok ty lifeguard
[16:16] <AceKing> X11: AMD
[16:16] <rich____> does floodbot ever tell ubottu off?
[16:17] <Mike_lifeguard> sky_1: oh, roobly_roo may be right -- I only had to /change/ an ntfs partition, not create one
[16:17] <dsdeiz> do you guys know a database modeller for linux?
[16:17] <Kingsy101> hey guys that fixed my pc.. the sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get upgrade ...
[16:18] <Kingsy101> how come those two commands one after another fixed my pc and I couldnt do that through the GUI?
[16:18] <Kingsy101> wihtout getting errors
[16:18] <roobly_roo> sky_1: For most cases it's best to format to fat32 if you want to share between Windows and Linux.  Or, if its max-filesize limit is too low for your needs, use ext* and install the ext2 driver for Windows.
[16:18] <rob_p> Kingsy101, See how powerful the command line is!  :-)
[16:18] <Kingsy101> yup
[16:18] <rich____> Kingsy101, and how much easier? :)
[16:19] <Kingsy101> but I don't really understand why it worked on the command line and not through the gui
[16:19] <Kingsy101> what exactly does sudo apt-get update do ?
[16:19] <X11> AceKing: ok, that's no matter with current architecture. If current resolution is limited in only 800x600, then try to fix X server with the way like I show before...
[16:20] <rich____> reads your packages from the repositories you have listed in /etc/apt/sources.list
[16:20] <eipark> does anyone know how to format a hard drive so i can put XP on it? i think i want an ext3 to NTFS cnoversion
[16:20] <Hajuu> Impossible..
[16:20] <cabrey> Authority, i can't find a function that does exactly that. dpkg doesn't care what you do with the files after you install the package
[16:20] <rich____> then upgrade installs the never version
[16:20] <rohit> eipark, that must be impossible
[16:20] <eipark> rohit: what do you mean
[16:20] <Kingsy101> rich____ - and what about upgrade ?
[16:20] <cabrey> Authority, maybe there is, try going on #debian, they are well versed in these tools
[16:20] <rohit> eipark, i think you're only hope is to backup all your data and format - install xp and then restore you're data
[16:20] <Authority> cabrey: apparently there is another package called debsums to do this
[16:20] <FlodaReltih> Can someone help me? My Ubuntu server is having some rather annoying issues...
[16:20] <AceKing> X11: Ok, I'll give it a try. I'm still fairly new to Ubuntu, but it's a fresh system so I'm not afraid of screwing up
[16:21] <rich____> Kingsy101, check out the manual
[16:21] <cabrey> Authority, that sounds like it is just an md5 check
[16:21] <rich____> Kingsy101,  man apt-get
[16:21] <eipark> right
[16:21] <eipark> i inserted an XP disk
[16:21] <Kingsy101> alrighty
[16:21] <Kingsy101> :) thanks
[16:21] <rich____> Kingsy101, its the q button to quit :)
[16:21] <eipark> and got the xp prompt, partitioned it from the installer , but it said the partition is not xp compatible
[16:21] <Kingsy101> rich____ - how long have you been using ubuntu ?
[16:21] <Authority> cabrey: which is exactly what I want.  I want to make sure the file is as it was when it was installed
[16:21] <rich____> 2 1/2 years
[16:21] <rich____> irc / about 10mins lol
[16:21] <FlodaReltih> My NIC isn't being recognized. (It's one of those RealTek integrated Gigabit Ethernet adapters.)
[16:21] <cabrey> Authority, you mean the deb itself?
[16:21] <Kingsy101> rich____ - have you read the manuals ?
[16:21] <Kingsy101> all of em?
[16:22] <Authority> cabrey: no, the installed files
[16:22] <X11> eipark: if you currently use ubuntu with gnome desktop, try to install gparted (partition manager with GUI). you can manage partition within and safely
[16:22] <chaosphere> Hi is it possible to login via SSH and 'catch' the output of a running console program?
[16:22] <rich____> Kingsy101, no, i read them when i need to
[16:22] <rich____> like man file
[16:22] <rich____> is helpfull
[16:22] <rohit> eipark, exactly. xp needs FAT32 or NTFS so you will have to format the partition - but if you have data on it you will need to back it up and then format
[16:22] <eipark> i dont need the data so its ok
[16:22] <cabrey> Authority, it would have to do an md5 on each installed file because they are not in one file anymore
[16:23] <rohit> eipark, then what you need to do is format the partition - I second X11 suggestion - use gparted
[16:23] <eipark> thanks
[16:23] <eipark> lemme give it a try
[16:23] <Authority> cabrey: correct
[16:24] <cabrey> chaosphere, no :( look into screen as it will allow you to 'detach' sessions
[16:24] <Kingsy101> rich____ - just cos I am really interested in learning ubuntu properly, not really sure what steps to take.. I mean there is always day to day learning but I just wonder if I should be reading a book or the manuals or something
[16:24] <rohit> eipark, check and double check - you don't want to format the wrong partition :)
[16:24] <Authority> cabrey: at least with RPM, this is standard.  RPM can tell you if any file it installed has changed
[16:24] <X11> rohit: thank you my friend...
[16:24] <chaosphere> ok thanks cabrey. I'll have a look
[16:24] <rich____> Kingsy101, it depends what you want to get out of it
[16:25] <Kingsy101> rich____ - I just wanna be able to use it competently .. i.e know whats going on.. heh
[16:25] <Kingsy101> kinda like I do with windows..
[16:25] <Kingsy101> but i hate windows
[16:25] <bk13> I have a question, can i just install 64 bit ubuntu over my current 32 bit ubuntu without losing all my data? I installed 32 from wubi if it makes a difference.
[16:25] <Kingsy101> :)
[16:25] <eipark> rohit: i have gparted running nwo and have the disk i want to use, what exactly do i do now to format it?
[16:25] <Hajuu> Kids with guns
[16:26] <rohit> eipark, I am on windows right now - and I don't know gparted well - wait for some else to respond :D
[16:26] <eipark> k thanks,
[16:26] <Pici> Hajuu: Do you have anything Ubuntu related to say? If not, you can join us in #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:26] <eipark> anyone know how to use gparted to format a drive for XP?
[16:26] <Hajuu> Impossible..
[16:26] <rich____> Kingsy101, there are some free books, just trying to find one
[16:26] <roobly_roo> Kingsy101: If you really want to learn Ubuntu, I'd suggest trying to learn more about Linux and GNU.  The best way to do that, would be to learn through setting up most of it yourself (via CRUX or the minimalist GENTOO network installer.)
[16:26] <Kingsy101> rich____ - aw man that would be cool if you could find one for me..
[16:27] <cabrey> Kingsy101, Ubuntu Pocket Guide
[16:27] <Hajuu> What version of ubuntu is best for looking up porn?
[16:27] <Vlet> Hajuu: it might be best to ask in #troll
[16:27] <Kingsy101> UPorntu
[16:27] <bishop> joining
[16:27] <bk13> all of them
[16:27] <cabrey> get ready for a ban...
[16:27] <Pici> Please don't encourage him.
[16:27] <R4kk00n> eipark, what exactly do you mean by "format a drive for xp"?
[16:28] <R4kk00n> create a single ntfs primary partition?
[16:29] <R4kk00n> create some partitions so you could install xp alongside ubuntu?
[16:29] <theyeti> Is there no way in ubuntu to change the default soundcard without writing up an .asoundrc file?
[16:30] <cabrey> !sound
[16:30] <X11> eipark: click on the partition map that displayed by gparted, hold mouse, click right (if your mouse set for right handy), then choose Format to > ntfs.
[16:30] <eipark> x11: thanks
[16:30] <truthordare> my rc.local is not being read at boot time... i think.. coz.. no change is hapening... when i manually execute it then its alright.. at boottime it is not automatically working ;(
[16:31] <eipark> x11: it wont let me format to ntfs
[16:31] <ubuntiana> #ubuntu-it
[16:31] <cabrey> truthordare, what is this script?
[16:31] <eipark> but fat16 and 32 are available, are those compatible
[16:31] <cabrey> ubuntiana, /join #ubuntu-it
[16:31] <bk13> fat 32 is
[16:31] <eipark> bk13: thanks
[16:32] <bk13> fat 32 is universally recognised by all OS's
[16:32] <bishop> bebak
[16:32] <rohit> eipark, after installing windows - windows will over write the boot record
[16:32] <jim____> truthordare: is it +x?
[16:32] <truthordare> to configure ifconfig with m y custom ip addresses.. for eth0..
[16:32] <truthordare> like eth0:1, eth0:2..etc
[16:32] <jim____> truthordare: you know about /etc/network/interfaces don't you?
[16:32] <rohit> eipark, so to boot into ubuntu you will have to re install grub - you can search on google to get guides on this
[16:32] <X11> eipark: did you you see 'ntfs' menu while you pointing such pop-up menu? How many partition now on current hdd?
[16:32] <rich____> Kingsy101, this one seems good http://www.gutenberg.org/etext/6527
[16:33] <Phrozen_One> Would "cp -Rv -t DESTINATION source1 source2 source3" copy source{1,2,3} into the DESTINATION folder?
[16:33] <truthordare> sure.. i can manually directly execute it with sudo /etc/rc.local and it works fine
[16:33] <matt____> I understand that only a certain number of partitions can be set in one physical drive but is there anything stopping me from having a 2-3 page GRUB list if I have a hard drive for each OS?
[16:33] <eipark> x11: theres only one partition on this hard drive, NTFS was in the menu but i couldn't click it
[16:33] <dansku> i have a ded box, how can i check if gnome is running?
[16:33] <cabrey> truthordare, use /etc/network/interfaces for static ip's
[16:33] <jim____> truthordare: even ignoring that, rc.local isn't the best place.  you should place that kind of thing in /etc/rc.S/SNN or /etc/network/if-up.d/
[16:33] <truthordare> interfaces file is not allowing me to configure eth0.. it says eth0=eth0 not recognised.. i have no clue..so trying this rc.local way
[16:33] <Kingsy101> rich____ - thanks I will read it :)
[16:34] <gartral> wheres the pah for thekazahakase plugins directory
[16:34] <gartral> wheres the pah for the kazahakase plugins directory )(typo fix)
[16:34] <cabrey> jim____, it should execute it just like any run level script
[16:34] <cabrey> jim____, but perhaps it is too late in the boot process
[16:34] <gnubie> Kingsy101; http://www.ubuntupocketguide.com/download_main.html  did you look here?
[16:34] <jim____> cabrey: I know it "should" work, I'm only saying it's not really proper to do it in rc.local.
[16:34] <bk13> can i just install 64 bit ubuntu easily over my current 32 bit ubuntu without losing all my data? I installed 32 ages ago from wubi and am dual booting xp if it makes a difference.
[16:35] <jim____> cabrey: truthordare: it's an interface-config process and IMO should be placed as such, that's all
[16:35] <{bosco}> ok anyone know how to take a avi file and convert it to mp4 ?
[16:35] <jim____> {bosco}: ffmpeg / mencoder
[16:35] <truthordare> can i just rename the rc.local to Sxx and place it in /etc/rc.S/ ?
[16:35] <X11> eipark: what is current partition FS (Ext2 ? Ext3 or else..?), is that partition used as root partition of your Ubuntu... it should a least two partition, one /dev/sda1 and another such swap partition...
[16:35] <cabrey> jim____, it wasnt working for him ealier, so i suggested rc.local
[16:35] <Kingsy101> gnubie - no, does that read like a book? i.e can I read that guide from start to finish?
[16:35] <jim____> cabrey: ah I see
[16:35] <rohit> gtg laters people - happy ubuntu'ing
[16:35] <truthordare> now tell me a good value for S?? whats the ubunutu's default runlevel?
[16:35] <cabrey> bk13, no, that needs a reinstall
[16:36] <eipark> why do i need grub? does it matter if my ubuntu and xp will be on separate hard drives
[16:36] <marctw> So if i put freenx on my ubuntu server, i should be able to get a remote GUI view on my Vista pc?
[16:36] <jim____> truthordare: sure.  the scripts in that directory are run in numerical order.  check the README found in there.
[16:36] <marctw> ????????????
[16:36] <bk13> thanks cabrey
[16:36] <cabrey> !nx
[16:36] <gartral> !grub | eipark
[16:36] <{bosco}> jim____,  so right i have that incoder installed but i want to convert that video to actually mp4 not just play it all the time like it is playing as a mp4
[16:36] <dajhorn> eipark: You can do that with some work, but you'll need to choose the secondary operating system from the BIOS menu.
[16:36] <truthordare> u can use nomachine's nx.. from www.nomachine.org
[16:37] <matt____> I understand that only a certain number of partitions can be set in one physical drive but is there anything stopping me from having a 2-3 page GRUB list if I have a hard drive for each OS?
[16:37] <gartral> wheres the pah for the kazahakase plugins directory )(typo fix)
[16:37] <jim____> {bosco}: er, what
[16:37] <truthordare> i am currently using it.. and its pretty fast.. much faster than xdcmp...
[16:37] <dajhorn> eipark: And the Microsoft Installer will take the primary device when you install Windows, which may break the Ubuntu installation.
[16:37] <Soopa> hi all, I added myself to a group with gpasswd, but that group doesn't show up with I do a groups.. do I need to restart a daemon or something?
[16:37] <eipark> dajhorn: so i have to install grub first
[16:37] <truthordare> jim____: can i know ubunu's deafult runlevel ?
[16:37] <dajhorn> eipark: Yes, but it can live on the Ubuntu disk.
[16:38] <dajhorn> eipark: So that Windows and Linux don't overlap at all.
[16:38] <X11> eipark: ubottu 100% right, perhaps you should resize current partition use gparted...
[16:38] <Kingsy101> rich____ - if I read that book you gave about debain does that have anything to do with ubuntu?
[16:38] <eipark> x11: i already use gparted, its formatting my hard drive so i can put xp on it
[16:39] <eipark> i have 2 hard drives in this machine, one for xp, one for ubuntu
[16:39] <gartral> X11: ubottu is a bot, credit goes to whoever put that !factoid in
[16:39] <aygeX> hi guys
[16:39] <beltsonata> hi
[16:39] <marctw> how do i check my ubuntu version from terminal
[16:39] <aygeX> how many GB does a swap partition need?
[16:39] <rob_p> truthordare, You should probably create your custom startup script and put it in /etc/init.d/ and then use update-rc.d to create the sym-links to it from the wanted runlevel(s).
[16:39] <marctw> how do i check my ubuntu version from terminal
[16:39] <marctw> ?
[16:39] <rocko> how do you add dns servers to use to /etc/network/interfaces ?
[16:40] <X11> gartral: that's why I said 100% right...
[16:40] <rocko> my network works but their is nothing written in /etc/network/interfaces is that normal ?
[16:40] <aygeX> how many GB does a swap partition need?
[16:40] <rocko> 1 gb aygeX
[16:40] <rocko> should be enough
[16:40] <aygeX> ok :D gave it 10 GB
[16:40] <dajhorn> marctw: $ cat /etc/lsb-release
[16:40] <rob_p> rocko, You don't.  They go in /etc/resolv.conf
[16:41] <n2diy> I'm preparing to install on a friends Compaq Evo N600c laptop. Would I be better off doing the install with the pcmcia wireless card installed, or wait to configure it after the install?
[16:41] <aygeX> do I need swap for standby mode?
[16:41] <rocko> aygeX how much ram do you have ?
[16:41] <marctw> not cat /etc/debian_version ?
[16:41] <aygeX> 2GB
[16:41] <rocko> back in the day they would do it based on twice your ram aygeX
[16:41] <aygeX> so, 4GB for swap?
[16:41] <rocko> but not any more since it is really not needed
[16:41] <gartral> marctw: try just lsb release -a
[16:42] <dajhorn> marctw: Why ask?  Just look at the file.  They're different.
[16:42] <rocko> that was how it was done back then
[16:42] <aygeX> ok gonna try this, I need swap for standby mode right?
[16:42] <rocko> 1 gb should be fine aygeX
[16:42] <rich____> Martc - preferences, about
[16:42] <matt____> I understand that only a certain number of partitions can be set in one physical drive but is there anything stopping me from having a 2-3 page GRUB list if I have a hard drive for each OS?
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[16:42] <rich____> martc - sorry system / about
[16:43] <tiyowan> !ot > das
[16:43] <gartral> marctw: the debian_version file is there to show what version of debian Ubuntu is based on, Ubuntu is not debian, and has very *very* little binaray compatability with Debian
[16:43] <X11> aygeX: swap or ram should be < 4GB...
[16:43] <novita> Hello all, I am in deep trouble. During Reinstall of Ubuntu my ntfs Data partition (Containing all my family pictures) got overwritten with a new ntfs partition (It whas Quick format) i been looking everywhere for options to get the data back but no success. Any of you got any good ideas i am kina noobish with this. so please :(
[16:43] <tiyowan> aygeX: How much memory does your system have?
[16:43] <das> lol
[16:43] <marctw> When I do lsb_release -a
[16:44] <marctw> I get command not found
[16:44] <marctw> WHY?
[16:44] <aygeX> my linux partition has 80,9 GB
[16:44] <rocko> matt____ pm
[16:44] <matt____> rocko: how?
[16:44] <matt____> rocko: I'm using CLI irssi client
[16:44] <marctw> When I do lsb_release -a
[16:44] <marctw> I get command not found
[16:44] <tiyowan> aygeX: I'm asking about your computer's RAM memory. :)
[16:44] <marctw> WHY?
[16:44] <gartral> novita: marctw loose the underscore
[16:44] <aygeX> I have 2GB, sry
[16:44] <gartral> its simply lsb release -1
[16:44] <rocko> rob_p is it okay that /etc/network/interfaces is blank ?
[16:44] <tiyowan> !patience | marctw
[16:44] <gartral> -a
[16:45] <truthordare> jim____ : now i got what u said.. i was thinking u wer saying me to put it into those rc with runlevels.. i have now put the renamed rc.local into rcS..and rebooted... leme see
[16:45] <tiyowan> aygeX: Okay, a 2 GB swap should be more than enough.
[16:45] <carpii> novita -- http://www.data-recovery-software.net/Linux_Recovery.shtml
[16:45] <rob_p> rocko, Yeah.  That started when network-manager took over the configuration of the network.
[16:45] <rocko> you should have another window open matt____
[16:45] <zagabar1> A webcam has been detected as video0. How can I take a photo from it and save it to a file? Terminal only.
[16:45] <Kingsy101> ok guys so I have two books now -  ubuntupocketguide-v1-1    and      Debian GNU/Linux : Guide to Installation and Usage by Goerzen and Othman
[16:45] <aygeX> ok thx tiyowan
[16:45] <Kingsy101> if I read both of them will it give me a good understanding of ubuntu?
[16:45] <tiyowan> Kingsy101: The pocket guide is good.
[16:45] <rob_p> rocko, I hate that though.  I always remove it and properly utilize /etc/network/interfaces.
[16:46] <Kingsy101> the reason I ask is I am going to print them and don't wanna if there not good
[16:46] <rkibui> hi all, i'm having this issue ubuntu 9.04; ldap_bind: Invalid credentials (49). Anybody know how to fix it?
[16:46] <rocko> I see you mean you remove the config file for network-manager rob_p ?
[16:46] <eipark> does it take a longt ime for it to conver tthe partitions to FAT32? gparted has said 2 operations pending for almost 20 mins
[16:46] <tiyowan> Kingsy101: In that case, the pocket guide will be suitable imo.
[16:46] <rob_p> rocko, No.  I remove network-manager altogether.
[16:46] <marctw> "lsb-release" and "lsb" are unknown commands... I must be retarded.
[16:46] <rocko> I see
[16:46] <tiyowan> eipark: Completely depends on the size of the partitions.
[16:46] <Kingsy101> tiyowan - what I mean is do they just teach you how to use the interface? cos that wouldnt help.. I want a pretty advanced walkthtrough..
[16:47] <gartral> marctw: one sec
[16:47] <eipark> 80gigs?
[16:47] <rob_p> rocko, ...but I'm not recommending that you do it.  I just prefer it the old way, that's all.
[16:47] <Kingsy101> using the GUI I can find out by myself.. I want to know how to it works, using the console etc etc
[16:47] <rocko> I forgot how to do that in irssi matt____ sorry but there is a way to do that though
[16:47] <zagabar1> A webcam has been detected as video0. How can I take a photo from it and save it to a file? Terminal only.
[16:47] <gartral> marctw: im sorry, it IS lsb_release -a
[16:47] <truthordare> noooo its not working
[16:47] <aygeX> wtf why cant I add memory to my ntfs partition, in gparted?!
[16:47] <rocko> matt____ there is a certain command
[16:47] <JohnWittle> I've fucked up my locale settings and would like to just completely reset them. How do I do so?
[16:47] <JohnFlux> zagabar1: google?
[16:47] <JohnWittle> reset them to en_US
[16:47] <tiyowan> Kingsy101: Well - if you really want to dive into the innards of linux, then Linux From Scratch is a pretty good resource - it'll teach you to build your own system from scratch.
[16:48] <truthordare> i went into ssh and then executed the script manually and then it works.. jus that its not working at boot time.. ;(
[16:48] <zagabar1> JohnFlux: I asked here becuase I failed to find it...
[16:48] <mypapit_prob> aygeX, err.. add memory?
[16:48] <mypapit_prob> aygeX, wutehek
[16:48] <novita> carpii, thanks for the help but i dont own a Windows machine
[16:48] <aygeX> I clicked on: change size
[16:48] <mypapit_prob> aygeX, calm down, what do you mean by add memory?
[16:48] <gartral> aygeX: do you have contigeous free space at the *end* of the ntfs part?
[16:48] <aygeX> I have 7,7GB useless memory now, from the swap partition which was too big
[16:49] <aygeX> and I'd like to add this memory to my ntfs
[16:49] <carpii> disk space, not memory
[16:49] <aygeX> ah yes, sry, im german
[16:49] <tiyowan> aygeX: Have you ever partitioned your drive before?
[16:49] <aygeX> yes
[16:49] <truthordare> can any one tell me where to put the custom script so that it will execute automatically at boot time??
[16:49] <truthordare> please.. any one??
[16:49] <gartral> !german > aygeX
[16:49] <rob_p> truthordare, I already did.
[16:49] <tiyowan> aygeX: Because you might find this useful: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowtoPartition
[16:50] <carpii> novita, i didnt know it was windows, sorry. Id suggest googling, theres a tonne of recovery apps, its just a case of finding one for linux
[16:50] <trident523> !autostart > truthordare
[16:50] <JohnWittle> So guys: my locale settings are completely fubar. How do I set the locale environmental settings as opposed to the per-session settings?
[16:50] <eipark> will 75gb take very log to partition into a FAT32 from EXT3
[16:50] <truthordare> i will put it in pastebin.. one sec
[16:50] <tiyowan> eipark: It'll take some time, yes.
[16:50] <aygeX> ok gonna ask in german channel now
[16:51] <rob_p> truthordare, Your script needs to go in /etc/init.d/ and needs to be executable.  Then you use the update-rc.d utility to add it to the runlevel(s) you wish it to run in.
[16:51] <dansku> help, jost got my dedicated server, how can I add a domain to it? thanks
[16:51] <truthordare> no... i want it before i log into gnome
[16:51] <tiyowan> !ot > dansku
[16:52] <dansku> ok
[16:52] <truthordare> i have remote session with nxclient... so i want the alternate ip's of the eth0 configured.. so that nxclient dont have to use the main ip
[16:52] <das> !ot > truthordare
[16:52] <X11> eipark: you meant create an FAT32 with 75 GB size?
[16:52] <rob_p> truthordare, Init scripts *DO* run before (or at least independently) of your user login.
[16:52] <gartral> wheres the path for the kazahakase plugins directory
[16:52] <das> lol
[16:53] <DjAngo23> Hey everyone,
[16:53] <sky_1> hi anyone know burning program for linux ?
[16:53] <DjAngo23> I got a web server (apache) installed on my Ubuntu, but my .htaccess seems not working properly
[16:53] <DjAngo23> Anyone any idea how to test/solve that ?
[16:53] <truthordare> wth?? das.. i was talking about ubuntu. and it was a suport quest.. please dont use bots unecesarily..
[16:53] <aygeX> I dont get an answer in the german channel
[16:53] <trident523> sky_1: brassero?
[16:53] <das> truthordare that was be an test ^^
[16:53] <subhasnagre> ji
[16:53] <Hilikus> how do i pass arguments to init.t scripts??
[16:54] <sky_1> i am looking for Burning application
[16:54] <Hilikus> sorry, init.d
[16:54] <sky_1> trident523: no brasero
[16:54] <tiyowan> sky_1: Search in your Add/Remove Applications menu.
[16:54] <sky_1> tiyowan: no brasero
[16:54] <X11> DjAngo23: did you see folder /etc/apache/site_available?
[16:55] <truthordare> http://paste.ubuntu.com/193546/
[16:55] <tiyowan> sky_1: Searching for "burner" in add/remove will show you applications beside brasero.
[16:55] <X11> DjAngo23: Sorry, /etc/apache2/site_available?
[16:55] <gartral> wheres the path for the kazahakase plugins directory, and how do I make it so no program will EVER steal focus?
[16:55] <sky_1> tiyowan: ok
[16:55] <DjAngo23> X11: heu, what do you mean ? if i can cd to that directory ?
[16:55] <rob_p> truthordare, Your script is not in proper format for an init script.
[16:56] <truthordare> someone please see this script..  am putting it in /etc/rcS.c/S41customifconfig, also tried in /etc/rc.local. both doesntwork.. but when i execute the script manally it works...
[16:56] <X11> DjAngo23: Are you Apache2 on Ubuntu?
[16:56] <ivanatwork> hi !
[16:56] <Hilikus> where's the script that starts all the daemons??
[16:56] <DjAngo23> X11: Apache2
[16:56] <cabrey> !it
[16:56] <dansku> how to change user on the terminal?
[16:56] <rich____> su
[16:56] <tyler_d> su -
[16:56] <DjAngo23> X11: default install, but i i'm working in the dir : /var/www/
[16:57] <guntbert> !su
[16:57] <Hilikus> dansku sudo -u
[16:57] <dansku> ok
[16:57] <dansku> ty
[16:57] <tyler_d> dansku: yw
[16:57] <rob_p> truthordare, I've practically spoon-fed you the answer to your question but you have yet to acknowledge and continue to ask and re-ask the same question!  I'm done!  Good luck...
[16:57] <corny_brean> Hi folks.
[16:57] <cabrey> happens a lot around here
[16:57] <zippie> hi everyone
[16:57] <trident523> !hi corny_brean
[16:58] <cabrey> use the |
[16:58] <ivanatwork> I need a guide to setup a local website using Joomla
[16:58] <rich____> !ubottu
[16:58] <dansku> Hilikus ad how to change permissions on user?
[16:58] <Kingsy101> how do you set up network printers in ubuntu ?
[16:58] <gartral> wheres the path for the kazahakase plugins directory, and how do I make it so no program will EVER steal focus?
[16:58] <zippie> I've been searching google for quite some time now but I'm looking for some "courseware", you know, a program to learn about networking, programming, ...
[16:58] <Hilikus> dansku permission for what
[16:58] <zippie> Anyone has any suggestions?
[16:58] <truthordare> hmmm.... okay.. but see... i already was so pissed of with this routing problem.. i am learning for a ccie lab.. now i need to put on my liinux cap.. i'm so tired already... anyway.. thanks
[16:58] <trident523> Kingsy101: windows -> ubuntu? or ubuntu/os x -> ubuntu?
[16:58] <DjAngo23> X11: do i have to change AllowOverride None to AllowOverride All  in /etc/apache2/sites-available/default   ?
[16:58] <haffe> zippie: Could you be more specific?
[16:58] <rich____> cheers ubottu
[16:59] <corny_brean> multimedia question: does anyone know how to rip the streaming-url of internet radio stations, that use javascript? So the streaming-adress is not in the source code, e.g. rock.radio.de
[16:59] <ivanatwork> !joomla
[16:59] <haffe> There are lot of avialable material at ocw.mit.edu zippie.
[16:59] <ivanatwork> nice ;)
[16:59] <zippie> haffe, like you have VTC, lynda.com, K Alliance, but they are all for Windows
[16:59] <dp_> where is pidgin listed within synaptic?
[16:59] <Kingsy101> trident523 - the laser printer is setup on a windows pc, I am using a ubuntu px
[16:59] <Kingsy101> pc
[16:59] <TwoToneSpirit> ivanatwork: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[16:59] <zippie> I'll check it out haffe, thx for the tip!
[16:59] <Kingsy101> I want to print from this pc (ubuntu) the laser
[16:59] <X11> DjAngo23: so make as comment the directive AllowOverride None on your virtual host settings...
[17:00] <ivanatwork> Thank you TwoToneSpirit
[17:00] <rich____> Kingsy101, prob easier to just open the page on the windows box?
[17:00] <Hilikus> who starts all the daemons? i need to change a parameter in the way one of them is called
[17:00] <X11> DjAngo23: Don't even make it as AllowOverride All too...
[17:01] <TwoToneSpirit> ivanatwork:  Using that guide, I got mediawiki and wordpress to work perfectly in ubuntu - I'm sure you can do the same with joomla.  I didn't realize there's also a specific joomla information page, which you found with ubottu.  I'm sure you'll have success.  :-)
[17:01] <Kingsy101> rich___ - oh ok, I thought it would be easy enough to just print through this machine..
[17:01] <Kingsy101> no boter
[17:01] <Kingsy101> bother
[17:01] <DjAngo23> X11: okay, what should i do then ?
[17:01] <zippie> haffe, thx for the tip! It's a good site!
[17:01] <gartral> wheres the path for the kazahakase plugins directory, and how do I make it so no program will EVER steal focus?
[17:01] <trident523> !samba | Kingsy101
[17:01] <almost> at the moment I have a file with this ownership   www-data www-data it needs to be  www-data root
[17:01] <tiyowan> !patience | gartral
[17:01] <guntbert> !bum | Hilikus
[17:01] <dp_> where would I find other IM clients within synaptic?
[17:02] <cabrey> dp_, empathy is a good im client
[17:02] <ivanatwork> TwoToneSpirit, after the setup, I have to install all the stuff under /var/www ... well, I'm a regular user (just installed Jaunty desktop). Permissions? [i forgot all the stuff about it]
[17:02] <rich____> ubottu, irc > me
[17:02] <tiyowan> dp_: Instead of using synaptic - try searching from your add/remove menu. And yes, empathy is a good im client as well.
[17:02] <dp_> cabrey: but where in synaptic would it be listed (specifically, looking under "Sections")
[17:02] <bishop> joining
[17:02] <TwoToneSpirit> ivanatwork: I just did everything through the terminal and used sudo.
[17:02] <zagabar1> Hm, my cam refuses to be recognized as a webcam on my laptop with ubuntu. It thinks it is a 32 mb usb storage and doesn't show up as /dev/video0.  However, when I plug the cam in my server also running ubuntu, it can be recognized as that.
[17:02] <dp_> tiyowan: I want to find others, and I'd like to just see a list
[17:02] <cabrey> dp_, Applications > Add & Remove is a bit more user friendly
[17:03] <dp_> hrm, ok
[17:03] <ivanatwork> TwoToneSpirit, well I guess I have to read the howtos another time ;)
[17:03] <cabrey> dp_, synaptic shows all the core packages and their unusual name
[17:03] <eurostar> Yo
[17:03] <guntbert> almost: you are looking for chown, as in chown <owner>:<owning-group> file
[17:03] <tiyowan> dp_: It's difficult to see a categorized application-specific list in synaptic; it's really geared more towards being able to search for a package if you know part of its name.
[17:03] <X11> DjAngo23: open terminal and send command $ sudo apache2ctl restart
[17:03] <fighn> hi
[17:03] <NetLarIrvine> Is there a compatibility list for graphic cards?
[17:03] <fighn> na alles roger bei euch suckers?
[17:04] <almost> guntbert: yes
[17:04] <tiyowan> NetLarIrvine: Yes.
[17:04] <cabrey> !ati
[17:04] <tiyowan> NetLarIrvine: Check out that link.
[17:04] <TwoToneSpirit> dp_: I have recently taken a liking to the categorized list provided in ubuntu-tweak.  http://ubuntu-tweak.com/
[17:04] <guntbert> dp_: in synaptic you call look at the properties of a package to see its section
[17:04] <zagabar1> Hm, my cam refuses to be recognized as a webcam on my laptop with ubuntu. It thinks it is a 32 mb usb storage and doesn't show up as /dev/video0.  However, when I plug the cam in my server also running ubuntu, it can be recognized as that.
[17:04] <NetLarIrvine> thanks
[17:04] <guntbert> *can
[17:04] <dp_> guntbert: thanks
[17:05] <Hilikus> guntbert mmm etc/rc3.d/ contains just symlinks to /etc/init.d/*
[17:05] <guntbert> dp_: np
[17:05] <tyler_d> NetLarIrvine: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=ubuntu+compatible+video+cards
[17:05] <dp_> Add/Remove isn't showing me *anything*
[17:05] <guntbert> Hilikus: what are you trying to accomplish?
[17:05] <gartral> wheres the path for the kazahakase plugins directory, and how do I make it so no program will EVER steal focus?
[17:05] <tiyowan> dp_: Anything useful? Or anything at all?
[17:05] <DareDevil0> Hola a todos
[17:05] <dp_> tiyowan: anything at all
[17:06] <tiyowan> dp_: What search term are you using?
[17:06] <gartral> !spansh | DareDevil0
[17:06] <cabrey> !es
[17:06] <dp_> tiyowan: I'm not
[17:06] <gartral> !spanish | DareDevil0
[17:06] <Hilikus> guntbert one of my daemons is started with -f option, i need to start it with -f AND -a, so just change the switches used to start the daemon
[17:06] <tiyowan> dp_: :)
[17:06] <NetLarIrvine> It tells me the Radeon HD support is limited
[17:06] <cabrey> NetEcho, which card do you have?
[17:06] <zagabar1> Hm, my cam refuses to be recognized as a webcam on my laptop with ubuntu. It thinks it is a 32 mb usb storage and doesn't show up as /dev/video0.  However, when I plug the cam in my server also running ubuntu, it can be recognized as that.
[17:06] <daplumpkin> hai, is there anyone that is an open office guru?
[17:06] <tiyowan> NetLarIrvine: Search on the ubuntu forums for people's experiences with your particular graphics card to avoid any headaches.
[17:06] <NetEcho> cabrey?
[17:06] <dp_> tiyowan: why the smiley?  no search terms, and I get no packages listed
[17:06] <rich____> zagabar1, model number?
[17:06] <cabrey> daplumpkin, you might want #openoffice
[17:07] <NetLarIrvine> ok
[17:07] <daplumpkin> thanks, cabrey
[17:07] <tiyowan> dp_: Try a search term, like IM, instant messenger, etc.
[17:07] <cabrey> daplumpkin, #openoffice.org i mean :)
[17:07] <Pici> daplumpkin: #openoffice.org actually
[17:07] <DjAngo23> X11: It didn 't work so i udes : sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[17:07] <dp_> tiyowan: I did.  again, nothing
[17:07] <Korogiannos> Hi. How can I share my printer connected to Jaunty so my sister can print to it from XP?
[17:07] <paolo88> Hi. I have installed wine from repo ubuntu (version 1.0.1), I must have the version 1.1.17. If i download the file .deb and install it, the programs that i have installed on wine 1.0.1 will work again?
[17:07] <DjAngo23> Used*
[17:07] <cabrey> NetEcho, sorry wrong person
[17:07] <guntbert> Hilikus: 1) ubottu told you to look at bum,  2) you can edit those files "by hand" too, if you want
[17:07] <daplumpkin> thanks
[17:07] <cabrey> NetLarIrvine, what card do you have?
[17:07] <NetEcho> cabrey no sweat
[17:08] <tiyowan> dp_: That's unusual - does searching for another type of application turn up a list?
[17:08] <NetLarIrvine> The ATI Radeon HD 3450
[17:08] <erUSUL> Korogiannos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkPrintingFromWinXP
[17:08] <dupondje> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/aiccu/+bug/104590 <- its not yet in repo's ? :(
[17:08] <dp_> tiyowan: no.  always just the blank panels
[17:08] <Diabo> ciao
[17:08] <trident523> NetLarIrvine: having the flicker issues?
[17:08] <Korogiannos> erUSUL: Many thanks
[17:08] <Diabo> è
[17:08] <tiyowan> dp_: How long has been since you installed Ubuntu again?
[17:08] <Diabo> ?
[17:08] <dp_> any other suggestions for IM clients? specifically, memory lightweight
[17:08] <dp_> tiyowan: over a year
[17:08] <NetLarIrvine> No, have not purchased the system yet, but It is a good deal
[17:08] <Diabo> ma che lingua parlate?
[17:09] <Diabo> tedesco?
[17:09] <Daniel_online> hi all found quite a few old topics regarding ubuntu eyecandy - what is the newest and best to use (running 9.04)
[17:09] <almost> guntbert: you may have given an aswer but idid not understand
[17:09] <Hilikus> guntbert i don't want to install a new package for something as simple as that. i assumed you could do it by hand like you said, but i don't know where's the file that contains the arguments used when starting a daemon
[17:09] <zagabar1> rich____: Mustek DV2032
[17:09] <guntbert> !de | Diabo
[17:09] <tiyowan> dp_: If you can't turn up anything in add/remove, then something's wrong.
[17:09] <erUSUL> !it | Diabo
[17:09] <NetLarIrvine> I just want to make sure that it will work when I get it installed
[17:09] <Diabo> ubottu thanks
[17:09] <erUSUL> guntbert: german ??
[17:09] <Daniel_online> is compiz_fusion the newest eyecandy to use????
[17:09] <X11> DjAngo23: oh I am sorry, AllowOverride directive of course should not be typed on any conf file. Ok if apache2ctl didn't work or it doesn't exist you can use /etc/init.d/apache to restart the server...
[17:10] <tiyowan> NetLarIrvine: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=835446 - check this out.
[17:10] <space_cadet> I am having a problem connecting to an N network using the Atheros AR928x  with the ATH9K in 9.04
[17:10] <guntbert> erUSUL: I beg your pardon?
[17:10] <space_cadet> It seems it cannot associate to the Access Point Automatically and get an IP Dynamically
[17:10] <X11> DjAngo23: I'd mean /etc/init.d/apache2, sorry again...
[17:10] <albeu> ghantoos?
[17:10] <space_cadet> however, I can manually assign a static IP and it works (it's just a little slow)
[17:10] <Hilikus> guntbert i know i can just change the /init.d script but i can see that that script does all the work of checking switches and in fact the daemon is already using a switch so whoever is starting it must have a config file of switches to use for that particular daemon
[17:11] <erUSUL> guntbert: 18:09 < guntbert> !de | Diabo <<<
[17:11] <bishop> out...later
[17:11] <X11> !apache2ctl
[17:11] <Daniel_online> eyecandy for ubuntu 9.04 what is the best????
[17:11] <almost> erUSUL; I beg your pardon I never rose promised you a rose garden
[17:11] <space_cadet> Anyone have experience in fixing wireless N standard problems in 9.04 with an Atheros card?
[17:11] <cabrey> Daniel_online, it is built in
[17:11] <Daniel_online> cabrey: hmmm cant seem to find the themes and all the gadgets :-)
[17:11] <cabrey> !themes
[17:12] <guntbert> almost: you open a terminal, change to the directory and type chown www-user:root <name of that file> (replace the <...> expression with the actual file name
[17:12] <MyWay> hi, i'm using vino + vnc, if i don't disable compiz on the server, the screen doesn't refresh, why?
[17:12] <X11> unfortunately bot ubottu did not now even this file is part of apache2 mpm-itk ...
[17:12] <guntbert> Hilikus: I can lend you a hand, just wanted to point out the possibilities first
[17:13] <Daniel_online> cabrey: Is it under System > preferences > apperance ?
[17:13] <NetLarIrvine> Well that scares me a bit
[17:13] <Hilikus> guntbert thanks man
[17:13] <NetLarIrvine> Says something about restricted drivers, what are restricted drivers anyway?
[17:13] <space_cadet> Atheros AR928x  +  Wireless N router + ubuntu 9.04    != no work
[17:14] <cabrey> !changethemes
[17:14] <space_cadet> !restricted
[17:14] <vfw> NetLarIrvine: They are drivers that are not open source.
[17:14] <space_cadet> Proprietary drivers
[17:14] <tiyowan> NetLarIrvine: Restricted drivers are drivers that are made available to the linux community by the manufacturers of the hardware.
[17:14] <Daniel_online> thanks :-)
[17:14] <NetLarIrvine> oh ok
[17:14] <guntbert> erUSUL: he asked <Diabo> tedesco?, which I understood as "german" and I didn't look at his "own" langauge :-)
[17:14] <vfw> thanks to space_cadet for the short answer.
[17:14] <MyWay> hi, i'm using vino (under ubuntu 9.04) + vnc, if i don't disable compiz effects on the server, the screen doesn't refresh, why? it's updated only after i reconnect
[17:14] <tiyowan> NetLarIrvine: Some manufacturers take the time to make sure that their drivers are actually useful - but sometimes there can be problems.
[17:14] <space_cadet> :)
[17:15] <X11> !ubottu
[17:15] <DjAngo23> X11: You want me just to comment the line with  AllowOverride None right ?
[17:15] <NetLarIrvine> So if it is a restricted driver, then it could be a problem?
[17:15] <DjAngo23> X11: And then restart :  /etc/init.d/apache2
[17:15] <grawity> On Xubuntu, how do I uninstall the WiFi support? (this laptop doesn't have WiFi, and still there are things running such as wpa_supplicant - which seems to be related to the WLAN encryption).
[17:15] <X11> DjAngo23: yes, so that .htaccess can function properly...
[17:16] <guntbert> ok Hilikus you want to change one line in a service-script in /etc/init.d?
[17:16] <tiyowan> NetLarIrvine: Not necessarily. :) Everything really depends on two factors. How well the manufacturer supports the card for linux; and if that doesn't work, then how well the open source (produced by the community) driver works.
[17:16] <slipttees> howto install unixbench ?
[17:16] <DjAngo23> X11: I just did that but it 's still not working
[17:16] <NetLarIrvine> tiyowan: thanks
[17:17] <Hilikus> guntbert no, actually that service-script parses the switches, so i want to CALL that script already with my new switch, i want to know whoever is calling that service script, how does it know to use a switch
[17:17] <coz_> hey guys I mentioned this yesterday ... just did a clean install of 9.04  and all updates and no freecell...or at least no separate freecell game  just the aileriot solitair :)
[17:17] <tiyowan> NetLarIrvine: If you have some time, I could dig up some more threads on the forum about that card.
[17:17] <almost> guntbert: so now the <nontmp> file has these ownership  www-data root which means the file is writable by www-data is this correct
[17:17] <guntbert> Hilikus: please tell me what script we're talking about
[17:17] <Hilikus> guntbert /etc/init.d/sensord
[17:17] <DjAngo23> X11: even if i change the file and restart
[17:18] <guntbert> almost: not quite, please see
[17:18] <guntbert> !permissions | almost
[17:18] <guntbert> Hilikus: let me look, one moment please
[17:18] <erieslabnx> I created like 15 users and only about 6 show up in the Users settings, I tried to re-create the missing users and it says the users exist already. Yet there is not even a folder for them in the Home Folder. Why are they not there?
[17:18] <X11> DjAngo23: restart the Apache with apache2ctl (this file should be found in /usr/sbin) but if not, you can still use /etc/init.d/apache2 with restart option, if not, stop the server for a while, and start it again...
[17:18] <Hilikus> but when i just do /etc/init.d/sensord start, the daemon is started with a specific switch already
[17:19] <ivanatwork> .
[17:19] <space_cadet> ok i have the Asus M70Vm-x1  with an Atheros AR928x wireless card (b/g/n) running Ubuntu 9.04, I cannot seem to connect to a "pure" wireless N network.  When I attempt, i also run iwevent, and it shows  something to the effect of  >wireless scan completed  >Custom driver event:ASSOCRESPIE=010882040b0c1216182432043048606c2d1a6e181bffff0000000000000000000000000000000000000000003d1608000700000000000000000000000000000000000000dd180050f2020101830003a4000
[17:19] <space_cadet> 027a400004243bc0062326600 >access point: XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX  >access point:Not-Associated
[17:19] <space_cadet> i will pastebin the entire file
[17:20] <almost> guntbert: permissions are like so   -rwx------
[17:20] <erieslabnx> nobody has had user problems?
[17:20] <tiyowan> !paste > space_cadet
[17:20] <frostburn> space_cadet, i have all sorts of trouble connecting wth my atheros to b/g/n
[17:20] <lucax> is there anything like finder? i mean a file manager with finder-style?
[17:20] <MyWay> hi, i'm using vino (under ubuntu 9.04) + vnc, if i don't disable compiz effects on the server, the screen doesn't refresh, why? it's updated only after i reconnect
[17:20] <space_cadet> tiyowan, so i cant type a multiline question?
[17:20] <space_cadet> http://paste.ubuntu.com/193566/
[17:20] <frostburn> i'm 95% sure it's a kernel issue since the first ap that it connects to will be ok, but nothing else works unless a reboot
[17:21] <guntbert> almost: please paste the output of ls -l <yourfile>
[17:21] <tiyowan> NetLarIrvine: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1153245&highlight=ati+%2Bradeon+%2Bhd+%2B3450 - Looks like you might have some problems using the restricted drivers in 9.04. Consider another card?
[17:21] <guntbert> Hilikus: have you the script open now?
[17:21] <tiyowan> space_cadet: You can, but extended output results are best pastebinned.
[17:21] <Hilikus> guntbert yes
[17:21] <space_cadet> tiyowan, kk
[17:21] <Hilikus> guntbert this is the line that's setting the switch right now
[17:21] <Hilikus> if [ -n "$SYSLOG_FACILITY" ]; then SYSLOG_FACILITY="-f $SYSLOG_FACILITY"; fi
[17:22] <space_cadet> tiyowan, espically when they create a new carriage return :)
[17:22] <cabrey> lucax, nautilus is like finder
[17:22] <DjAngo23> X11: okay, thanks i will try that, i have to go.
[17:22] <cabrey> lucax, it is the default file manager
[17:22] <Hilikus> guntbert so syslog_facility must contain something, but i don't see where that variable is being set
[17:22] <DjAngo23> X11: I will let you know
[17:22] <tiyowan> space_cadet: Indeed.
[17:22] <lucax> cabrey: it doest not include all functions that finder has...
[17:23] <cabrey> lucax, like what?
[17:23] <Hilikus> guntbert ooh wait i got
[17:23] <ivanatwork> how can I restore the panel of Gnome? The one on the bottom
[17:23] <Hilikus> guntbert /etc/default/sensord
[17:23] <space_cadet> frostburn, see i am connected with the same hardware right now, only in the lesser operating system :(  windows
[17:23] <Hilikus> the script is loading all the defaults from there
[17:23] <guntbert> Hilikus: near the top there --- you found it!
[17:23] <lucax> cabrey: lots.... just watch some video on youtube
[17:23] <cabrey> lucax, i have used OS X since 10.2, and I'm not sure what is missing
[17:23] <jaws> I need some help with NFS mounting prolem with Ubuntu
[17:23] <frostburn> space_cadet, yeah, i have success connecting for 1 time, then never again
[17:23] <Hilikus> wow i didnt know about /etc/default
[17:24] <jaws> Anybody?
[17:24] <ivanatwork> how can I restore the panel of Gnome? The one on the bottom
[17:24] <lucax> cabrey: 10.5 or 10.6 just watch it, its intredible
[17:24] <space_cadet> frostburn, any ideas as to where i can search for answers??
[17:24] <guntbert> Hilikus: so we all are learning every day :-)
[17:24] <cabrey> ivanatwork, right click on top one, -> new panel
[17:24] <Hilikus> guntbert indeed
[17:24] <Hilikus> thanks a lot guntbert
[17:24] <tiyowan> ivanatwork: Right-click top panel, add new panel
[17:24] <cabrey> lucax, i have used 10.5's finder, but not 10.6's, it isn't out
[17:25] <almost> guntbert: -rwx------  1 www-data root     0 2009-06-11 14:28 nontmp
[17:25] <cabrey> lucax, can you be specific?
[17:25] <krishna> What is the maximum file zize of my ext4 ?
[17:25] <frostburn> space_cadet, i haven't investigated it too much, i'd go to the ubuntu forums.  note that i've connected successfully to xirrus and cisco access points just fine, so i'm thinking it's an AP issue
[17:25] <ivanatwork> thank you all !
[17:25] <frostburn> krishna, 1EB
[17:25] <space_cadet> frostburn, well all the AP's here are Cisco hardware
[17:25] <krishna> frostburn, is 1EB = 1024 * 1024 Gb ?
[17:26] <cabrey> lucax, if you feel functionality is missing, you can submit an idea to brainstorm.ubuntu.com
[17:26] <lucax> cabrey: it has preview of almost all kinds of files, and a quick look for any file type... very usefull... and can do searchs from the manu panel...
[17:26] <frostburn> krishna, oh filesize, 16TB
[17:26] <rich____> * 1024
[17:26] <space_cadet> frostburn, and as soon as i leave the N area (they only updated one part of campus)  i can connect to the G network perfectly
[17:26] <guntbert> almost: that means www-data has permissions to Read+Write+eXecute and everybody else has none, is that what you want?
[17:26] <mintux> how can I open each video file view on only one vlc player not open this program for each file ?
[17:26] <krishna> frostburn, 16 * 1024 gb ?
[17:26] <guntbert> Hilikus: you are welcome :)
[17:26] <krishna> frostburn, or 16 * 1000 gb ?
[17:26] <space_cadet> frostburn, and like I said before, if I boot into windows, and get an IP,   i can save that config, and go to linux and statically assign it and it works
[17:27] <liamo1> where in ubuntu 9.04 can i find the PATH and LD_LIBRARY_PATH
[17:27] <krishna> frostburn, is it 1000 or  1024 ?
[17:27] <frostburn> krishna, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terabyte
[17:27] <krishna> frostburn, my question was different
[17:27] <frostburn> space_cadet, yeah, it's a pita though =(
[17:27] <jaws> Can anyone help me with a NFS mounting problem?
[17:27] <space_cadet> lol
[17:27] <frostburn> jaws, what are you trying to mount and how?
[17:27] <linuxninja> Anyone Ubuntu certified?
[17:27] <Aar0n> Hi, how can I wipe my hard disk ready for the installation of a new operating system?
[17:27] <mintux> ??
[17:28] <space_cadet> frostburn, i dunno... IT said maybe try renaming the linux box to the same thing the windows one is named... might make a difference, because the DHCP server looks at machine names and MAC addresses
[17:28] <space_cadet> so
[17:28] <Pici> Aar0n: Ubuntu will format if you want during the install.
[17:28] <cabrey> lucax, search is available in ubuntu & nautilus gives small previews of files. if you want similar functionality to Quick Look, submit it to Ubuntu Brainstorm
[17:28] <tiyowan> linuxninja: Um, well, we're all volunteers here.
[17:28] <jaws> a directory on another Ubuntu client. I'm getting a mount error though.
[17:28] <krishna> frostburn, is it Tib or tb ? :((
[17:28] <space_cadet> How do you rename your machine in ubuntu 9.04?
[17:28] <Pici> !hostname | space_cadet
[17:28] <cabrey> linuxninja, there is no certification for people AFAIK
[17:28] <space_cadet> cool..  THX pici
[17:28] <lucax> cabrey: i dont have an account...
[17:28] <Aar0n> Pici, I am already on Ubuntu and want to wipe it for the installation of a totally new operating system. How can I do this?
[17:28] <almost> guntbert: yes just as a further point  if permissions were set as so : drwx------ 1 www-data root 0 2009-06-11 14:28 nontmp does this indicate root has access?
[17:28] <linuxninja> tiyowan: I want to take the Ubuntu certification
[17:28] <cabrey> linuxninja, i take that back :)
[17:28] <MyWay> I'm using vino + vncviewer, if i don't disable compiz on the server, the screen on the client doesn't refresh until i reconnect to the server, why?
[17:29] <cabrey> lucax, create one :)
[17:29] <space_cadet> pici so if i use sys > admin > networking  will it take care of both?
[17:29]  * linuxninja Want'ts to take the Ubuntu 199 certification
[17:29] <Pici> Aar0n: The new OS doesn't have a way to format the disk? Alternatively, you can use gparted from a live-cd to reformat.
[17:29] <frostburn> krishna, Ext4 — Max File Size: 1 EiB (for 4k block filesystem)
[17:29] <Pici> space_cadet: yes.
[17:29] <space_cadet> pici   cool thanx a million
[17:29] <mintux> is it a bug for vlc ?
[17:29] <cabrey> lucax, and yes quick look is very useful, however, it is not apart of the Finder, it is a different system entirely ;)
[17:29] <tiyowan> linuxninja: Well, this is the ubuntu support channel; if you have any questions related to the certification, I think you need to look on their website for that.
[17:29] <frostburn> space_cadet, well the weird thing is, i'll run packet capture and it won't pick up any traffic whatsoever when trying to associate
[17:30] <guntbert> almost: you *really* should read the pages in the link from ubottu above, but no, d indicates a directory, you cannot set that yourself
[17:30] <jaws> frostburn, are you there?
[17:30] <lucax> cabrey: hehe im lazzy, it would be cool to have a all-in-one media player like windows media or mac os x equeavalent
[17:30] <frostburn> jaws, yes
[17:30] <Aar0n> Pici, I stuck in the disk and I just got 'error running autorun program.'
[17:30] <linuxninja> tiyowan: Ya, I sent out an email and I'm watching #ubuntu-training
[17:30] <cabrey> mintux, what?
[17:30] <linuxninja> tiyowan: Will see what they say
[17:30]  * fileserver slaps jaws around with a used condom.
[17:30] <Pici> fileserver: Please don't do that here.
[17:30] <Pici> oh, bye
[17:31] <mintux> cabrey for each file I clicked a new vlc open. I want only one vlc open
[17:31]  * tiyowan sighs.
[17:31] <lucax> cabrey: yeah i know what u mean... but im just a regular user
[17:31] <Pici> Aar0n: You tried booting from the disk you mean?
[17:31] <cabrey> mintux, do you want them playing one at a time or all at once?
[17:31] <wildc4rd> evening all
[17:31] <Aar0n> Ah no I haven't, I did try that from another disk but not with this one, I'll try with this one now
[17:32] <jaws> I'm getting mount.nfs: system call failed (error)
[17:32] <capiira2> tiyowan, build your own distro, setup a nice website and create a nice "certification" for your distro and certify yourself :D
[17:32] <mintux> cabrey I want when I click on new file .. doesn't open new vlc and show on that opened
[17:32] <liamo1> where can I add to PATH and LD_LIBRARY_PATH?
[17:32] <cabrey> mintux, do you want them to play one after the other or all at once?
[17:33] <rich____> mintux it is an option in config
[17:33] <tiyowan> capiira2: Thanks, but no thanks. :)
[17:33] <frostburn> liamo1, .bashrc
[17:33] <rich____> there is a bug that prevents the config from working
[17:33] <liamo1> thanks frostburn!
[17:33] <rich____> https://edge.launchpad.net/~c-korn/+archive/vlc fixes the bug
[17:33] <mEck0> Hi! Has someone here installed Ubuntu on PS3?
[17:33] <frostburn> jaws, i dont see your messages come through, type out my name so my client will highlight it.  if you're seeing a system call failed, are you mounting as root? or sudo?
[17:34] <JasonMoss> How would I go about making all the files in a particular directory writeable for a particular user?
[17:34] <frostburn> JasonMoss, chown
[17:34] <n2diy> .
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[17:34] <jaws> frostburn, sorry it has been many years since I used IRC. I was executing it as root.
[17:34] <capiira2> JasonMoss, then chmod
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[17:34] <FloodBot1> n2diy: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
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[17:35] <X11> JasonMoss: type $ sudo chmod -R 0777 [your point dir] -v
[17:35] <JasonMoss> What if the directory is owned by say www-data, but I want a different user to be able to remotely write to files over ssh???
[17:35] <Aar0n> Pici, I tried rebooting with the disk however I just ended up booting ubuntu as normal...
[17:36] <firecrotch> I'm writing a shell script where I have to move a file to a directory with a name that is not known (it's a firefox profile directory, so the directory name is randomstring.default). How can I do this?
[17:36] <Nehyx> n2diy: please, don't flood ;)
[17:36] <guntbert> !permissions | JasonMoss
[17:36] <cabrey> JasonMoss, give the folder group permissions and add user to said group
[17:36] <capiira2> JasonMoss, then you have to use groups
[17:36] <jaws> frostburn, I have also tried executing with sudo and it returns a RPC error.
[17:36] <frostburn> jaws, heh i saw your post https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nfs-utils/+question/73865   first hit on google
[17:36] <JasonMoss> Ah. Thanks people!
[17:36] <Pici> Aar0n: Your computer needs to be able to boot from a CD first, you may need to setup your bios, or you may be prompted to press a key when you boot.
[17:36] <frostburn> jaws, do you have nfs-common installed?
[17:36] <jaws> frostburn, Yes!
[17:37] <Aar0n> lol sorry Pici, I'll try again >_<
[17:37] <JasonMoss> Also, is there a way to give a user other than root, full root privileges at all times?
[17:38] <jaws> frostburn, I have configured one machine with nfs-kernel-server but I saw that is not necessary just to mount a remote directory.
[17:38] <amidaniel> JasonMoss: Why would you want to do that?
[17:38] <firecrotch> JasonMoss: that's a bad idea, from a security standpoint
[17:39] <jaws> frostburn, now I'm back to just nfs-common on both Ubuntu 9.04 machines.
[17:39] <JasonMoss> firecrotch: Yea, i know it is bad from a security standpoint, but can it be done?
[17:39] <frostburn> jaws, what's the exact error you're seeing as sudo? i didn't see it in launchpad
[17:40] <jaws> frostburn, let me run it again.
[17:40] <jpangamarca> Hi everyone
[17:40] <LargePrime> hi
[17:40] <ivanatwork> hi
[17:40] <Alien_FX_Fiend> i'm looking for an OS with futuristic graphics,what would be my best bet
[17:41] <truthordare> http://paste.ubuntu.com/193579/ ; is my rc.local script correct? is it betterto be used in /etc/rcS.c/ ?
[17:41] <ivanatwork> Alien_FX_Fiend, try Sabayon ... not sure
[17:41] <Pici> Alien_FX_Fiend: If you're expecting an answer other than Ubuntu, then you've come to the wrong place.
[17:41] <jj_> i am trying to compile x264,  but it says "NO working C compiler found"
[17:41] <ivanatwork> sorry for the off topic
[17:41] <jj_> i installed gcc,, build-essentials
[17:41] <linuxninja> Alien_FX_Fiend: "futuristic graphics"?
[17:41] <bbeecher> Hey, my work is going to get me a new video card for my box - does anyone know if nvidea or ati has better support right now?
[17:41] <Pici> !offtopic | Alien_FX_Fiend
[17:41] <tiyowan> Alien_FX_Fiend: Install Ubuntu, and customize it.
[17:41] <guntbert> JasonMoss: again: why do want to do that?
[17:41] <ivanatwork> Alien_FX_Fiend, something "alien" regarding themes lol
[17:42] <X11> Alien_FX_Fiend: Kubuntu 9.04
[17:42] <frostburn> bbeecher, usually nvidia
[17:42] <boseto30> ruben
[17:42] <truthordare> can someone please have a look at my script? i adapted it from hostname.sh
[17:42] <Alien_FX_Fiend> is there a seperate site for kubuntu?and what's sabayon i've never heard of it
[17:42] <frostburn> jaws, can you pastebin your /etc/exports on your ntfs server?  you can obfuscate any of the folders if you want
[17:42] <linuxninja> X11: Does Kubuntu come with the new kde 4.1 or whatever its at now?
[17:42] <JasonMoss> guntbert: To have a super user other than root that can modify any files remotely via an IDE programming application
[17:42] <jaws> frostburn, I'm getting (failed RPC, Program not registered). I did a "sudo mount IP_Address: /directory /directory
[17:42] <firecrotch> JasonMoss: yes, it can probably be done, but a better way to do things would be to give the user sudo privileges
[17:43] <Aar0n> Pici, I don't seem to have a great deal of options when I boot :/
[17:43] <LargePrime> Alien_FX_Fiend: aren't all graphics by definition not futuristic?  As one sees them in the here and now?
[17:43] <cabrey> truthordare, are you ever going to listen to anyone?
[17:43] <hughszg> hey geeks, i am using Simple Backup installed from Add/Remove software to back up my system. my questions are: 1. will there be any prompt after the backup is complete? 2. can i shut down the computer and don't care the progress? 3. will the backup go on after I power on the computer later?
[17:43] <tiyowan> Alien_FX_Fiend: Google is your friend.
[17:43] <truthordare> cabrey : ? this is a new script.. i made... please have a look at it
[17:43] <fccf> strange sitiuation ... running hardy ... trying to install build-essential and it keeps saying that there are missing dependincies... I have a Ubuntu 8.04 server install and it is saying that the necessary version isn't available for g++ --- see this http://paste.ubuntu.com/193576/
[17:43] <truthordare> http://paste.ubuntu.com/193579/
[17:43] <Aar0n> Pici, I have a windows XP installer disk in my CD Drive at the moment, any advice on what my next step should be?
[17:43] <JasonMoss> firecrotch: my IDE can't do sudo commands when it tries to remotely save a file.
[17:43] <guntbert> JasonMoss: he can start that IDE via sudo
[17:43] <X11> linuxninja: Did KDE is futuristic?
[17:44] <jj_> can anyone tell me how to get all c compilers
[17:44] <JasonMoss> guntbert: The IDE is running on a windows machine and it uses SSH to open remote files
[17:44] <MaxJasoner> Aar0n, burn it up
[17:44] <Hilikus> how do i mark a thread as resolved in the ubuntu forum?
[17:44] <Pici> Aar0n: XP can wipe the drive during install. If you need help installing it, you should join ##windows
[17:44] <zippie> Alien_FX_Fiend, install emerald and install the fayal-white-glass theme (google it!), install compiz-settings-manager and activate the effects
[17:44] <TwoToneSpirit> Aar0n:  Carefully, using gloves, extract it and package it using a "hazardous materials" sticker and send it immediately to a waste management facility.
[17:44] <jaws> frostburn, I'm not sure what you are asking. Please explain what you mean by "pastebin".
[17:44] <cabrey> truthordare, you really should be using /etc/network/interfaces or network manager for that matter
[17:44] <linuxninja> X11: I would say Kde is different. I don't use it but I have seen early versions of the new kde...
[17:44] <TwoToneSpirit> !pastebin | jaws
[17:45] <frostburn> jaws, do a rpcinfo -p ipaddresshere
[17:45] <firecrotch> JasonMoss: I would just have the IDE login as root if you need that level of access
[17:45] <guntbert> JasonMoss: listen to firecrotch
[17:45] <bryng> The new version of KDE is pretty slick and is way more stable then when it came out
[17:45] <declan2> Hey everyone!
[17:45] <Aar0n> LOL TwoToneSpirit, I preferred Ubuntu I really do, It's just that I don't have the time to mess around with it at the moment with trying to get windows stuff working on it >_<
[17:45] <biagidp> can anyone point me to a resource showing the proper syntax for mounting shares with spaces in the file name in fstab?
[17:45] <Aar0n> thanks though Pici.
[17:46] <frostburn> biagidp, man fstab
[17:46] <LargePrime> so simple question.  why does this not work http://www.progressivetalk1150.com/cc-common/ondemand/player.html?world=st    ?
[17:46] <JasonMoss> Ok, in that case how would I go about setting roots password? I can't even login as root right now. Never prompted me for a root pass during install
[17:46] <X11> linuxninja: I use Kubuntu 8.10 too nearby my Ubuntu installation and my friend said "oh, this is fantastic and futuristic"...
[17:46] <bryng> sudo passwd
[17:46] <jrib> !root | JasonMoss
[17:46] <guntbert> JasonMoss: though you *could* make the files writeable by another user too
[17:46] <jaws> ubottu, I'll do. I'm new to IRC. Like first time!
[17:46] <jj_> i am trying to compile x264, it says i have no working c compiler
[17:46] <declan2> I'm using matlab here, it starts up and stuff, but the toolbar and buttons are just...blank. You can hover over them and their description will pop up, and you can click on them and they work, but they're not there...same with the editor. What could this be?
[17:46] <bryng> JasonMoss: sudo passwd
[17:47] <jrib> bryng: please inform people about sudo before suggesting that
[17:47] <TunnlRat> Can anyone tell me how to fix my laptop sound, when i plug in headphones it works, when i unplug them it does, the speakers worked fine with windows
[17:47] <cabrey> !audio
[17:47] <jrib> JasonMoss: sudo passwd is completely unecessary and not recommended, please read the information ubottu has sent you about using sudo
[17:47] <linuxninja> X11: LOL! I can see why someone would say that.
[17:47] <truthordare> cabrey : easy for u to say... its not working for me.. interfaces gives eror of eth0 not recognised and network manager aka nm-configuration-editor says some policy-kit error..
[17:47] <JasonMoss> Thanks again
[17:47] <Alien_FX_Fiend> thanks a lot,is emerald and fayal both specific to Ubuntu?that would make searching a whole lot easier
[17:48] <guntbert> JasonMoss: sorry, I was not thinking clearly when I spoke about login as root, still the "other" approach seem good to me
[17:48] <frostburn> jaws, i apologize, i need to head to a client site.  I'd doublecheck to see if your cleint can reach the server, ping, and see if the port is open, nmap, there might be a firewall issue or a share configuration issue in /etc/export  i should be back in a few hours though
[17:48] <X11> linuxninja: ha... ha... ha... I am so sorry...
[17:48] <jj_> i am trying to compile x264, it says i have no working c compiler
[17:48] <cabrey> Alien_FX_Fiend, emerald is deprecated
[17:48] <cabrey> jj_, sudo aptitude install build-essential linux-headers-`uname -r`
[17:48] <jj_> cabrey, i've instaled both yet it still says that
[17:48] <guntbert> !noroot | bryng
[17:49] <truthordare> http://paste.debian.net/38780/
[17:49] <jaws> frostburn, I will look for you later.
[17:49] <truthordare> sorry cross posting.. wrongly here
[17:49] <cabrey> guntbert, it is debatable whether no root password is actually more secure
[17:49] <declan2> Anyone?
[17:50] <ingcomrbr> yes
[17:50] <declan2> I'm using matlab here, it starts up and stuff, but the toolbar and buttons are just...blank. You can hover over them and their description will pop up, and you can click on them and they work, but they're not there...same with the editor. What could this be?
[17:50] <geoff1> total novice at this 1st time I have been in this sort of chat room so forgive if I get it wrong but I need info on how to remove deleted users home files. They have been entered in error  as users and deleted but I would like to re-use the name
[17:50] <Alien_FX_Fiend> what IDE should I use for programming?is EMACS good enough?
[17:50] <guntbert> cabrey: yes, but it is definitely not supported *here*, and thats the essential point in a support channel
[17:50] <cabrey> Alien_FX_Fiend, take a look at Eclipse
[17:50] <declan2> Alien_FX_Fiend: vi
[17:50] <jrib> declan2: see if disabling effects affects it
[17:50] <declan2> vim
[17:50] <declan2> jrib: ok
[17:50] <ingcomrbr> Allien_FX_Fiend: What do you want develop?
[17:50] <grawity> Alien_FX_Fiend: emacs is not an IDE, it's an operating system :P (Joking.)
[17:51] <linuxninja> X11: I'm a gnome user...
[17:51] <jrib> !ide | Alien_FX_Fiend
[17:51] <firecrotch> uh oh, here's we go :P
[17:51] <jj_> cabrey,  i've installed both but still says i have no c compiler, is there more compilers it may need?
[17:51] <X11> Alien_FX_Fiend: KWRITE, GEDIT, for PHP use GPHPEDIT...
[17:51]  * grawity hopes there are not going to be any emacs vs vi wars here.
[17:51] <cabrey> jj_, what are you trying to compile?
[17:51] <jj_> cabrey,  x264
[17:51] <jj_> cabrey, i need the newest one for new encodes...
[17:51] <X11> linuxninja: I like gnome too, regarding its high speed and efficient...
[17:52] <Alien_FX_Fiend> oh and how do i enable dual booting?
[17:52] <guntbert> cabrey: an IDE is not a compiler in itself, thats why you need build-essentials
[17:52] <rleeds> Anyone know how to manually install a panel applet? I can't figure out what --prefix to use for configure such that it will show up in the "Add applet..." dialog.
[17:52] <hulya> Hi there, I'm trying to ./configure a QT app (v4l2ucp) and it's complaining it cannot find QT, what's the prb ? libqt4-dev and libqt4-dev-tool are installed
[17:52] <rleeds> hulya, Mabye it's a qt3 app?
[17:52] <cabrey> guntbert, I didn't recommend a IDE to him
[17:52] <cabrey> jj_, look at this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=786095
[17:53] <LargePrime> so simple question.  why does this not work http://www.progressivetalk1150.com/cc-common/ondemand/player.html?world=st    ?
[17:53] <rleeds> hulya If the program is in the repos and you're just trying to build it from scratch anyway, you can use apt-get builddep <package>
[17:53] <jj_> cabrey, thanks very much
[17:53] <Alien_FX_Fiend> are the Ubuntu programmers actually in here or is this a betatester forum
[17:53] <guntbert> cabrey: sorry, I didn't mean to addrss you with that, my fingers seem to have their own life ;-)
[17:53] <metalfan_> hi
[17:53] <cabrey> Alien_FX_Fiend, support channel
[17:53] <cabrey> guntbert, np ;)
[17:53] <rleeds> Alien_FX_Fiend, Maybe some ubuntu contributors, but not for beta testers. Problems here should be only about release versions.
[17:54] <metalfan_> is there a tool to clone my ubuntu installation to another drive?
[17:54] <Pici> !irc | Alien_FX_Fiend
[17:54] <cabrey> Alien_FX_Fiend, #ubuntu+1 for beta testers
[17:54] <rleeds> Alien_FX_Fiend, there's #ubuntu-testing for that
[17:54] <Alien_FX_Fiend> i see well thank you
[17:54] <declan2> jrib: thanks!!! It works! But why?
[17:54] <X11> Alien_FX_Fiend: support channel and inter-user....
[17:54] <sonium> metalfan_: there is dd, but you have to look how to use it
[17:54] <firecrotch> metalfan_: clonezilla
[17:54] <dobre_zuo> can i add deb http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian jaunty non-free
[17:55] <jj_> cabrey, thanks and btw you showed me where to get the latest ffmpeg too :D
[17:55] <dobre_zuo> to karmic 9.10
[17:55] <cabrey> jj_, np
[17:55] <jrib> declan2: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Maple try some of the workarounds there to see if they help while keeping effects.  I don't know *why* :)
[17:55] <guntbert> !karmic | dobre_zuo
[17:55] <jj_> cabrey,  it still says no working c compiler grrr
[17:55] <cabrey> jj_, that sounds like another whole issue entirely
[17:56] <NetLarIrvine> X.org has an ASIC for my video driver, does that mean an open source driver was written for it?
[17:56] <cabrey> jj_, type cc on the terminal, do you get anything?
[17:56] <jj_> cabrey,  yea it does ......  its like it cannot find it...
[17:56] <jj_> cabrey,  nope cc puts no output
[17:56] <cabrey> jj_, does it say command not found?
[17:56] <hulya> v4l2ucp isn't in a ubuntu repos, actually it's webcam app that allow to change some useful parameters like brightness color and so on
[17:56] <cabrey> jj_, or something like that
[17:56] <jj_> cabrey, cc:no input files
[17:56] <cabrey> jj_, ok thats normal
[17:57] <hulya> SO I can't help but compile it
[17:57] <jj_> cabrey, good good
[17:57] <sjlkg> hi, when running powertop, it shows "usplash : scan_async (ehci_watchdog)" as a cause for wakeups.. does anyone know what it is and how to prevent this from cpu wakeups?
[17:57] <geoff1> OK will someone tell me how this works If I do not get an answer immediately does that mean that I will not get an answer at all?
[17:57] <guntbert> !patience | geoff1
[17:57] <jj_> let me reboot.. maybe sense updating after install has a issue with it
[17:58] <jrib> geoff1: you should repeat about every 10-15 minutes so new eyes can see your question.  There are also other support options
[17:58] <jrib> !support > geoff1
[17:58] <jj_> cabrey, i will reboot to see if it clears up, thanks for the time
[17:58] <cabrey> jj_, ok hopefully itll work :/
[17:58] <jrib> geoff1: how did you delete the user?
[17:58] <julia_2> hey. if 2 user access the same data they dont know that they work in the same document. oplock = yes, level2 oplocks=yes, strict locking=yes. what can i do?
[17:58] <jj_> cabrey, yep, if not i'll let you know...
[17:59] <LargePrime> so simple question.  why does this not work http://www.progressivetalk1150.com/cc-common/ondemand/player.html?world=st    It is an internet radio station.  Does it work for you?
[17:59] <liamo1> Please forgive my stupidity but I found no PATH or LD_LIBRARY_PATH in bash.bashrc. I need to add to both PATH and LD_LIBRARY_PATH. Where do I do this? Thanks in advance.
[17:59] <metalfan_> sonium, thx
[17:59] <jrib> liamo1: why do you think you need to do that?
[17:59] <metalfan_> is ext4 a problem for grub in ubuntu jaunty?
[18:00] <cabrey> liamo1, export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=
[18:00] <rich____> liamo1, echo $PATH
[18:00] <dn4> how Do I update my Grub to include a new hdd I just put on my IDE cable that has windows and ubuntu on it?
[18:00] <liamo1> jrib: I have just install cuda on Ubuntu 9.04 and need to add to both.
[18:00] <ubuntu> iiüä
[18:01] <X11> geoff: if you have back here, try to type command $ man adduser
[18:02] <rizzle> Hi everyone
[18:02] <rizzle> What's going on
[18:02] <zagabar1> What program is good to take pictures with a webcam from the command line?
[18:02] <binskipy2u> hey guys, anyone ever have all the "music" apps, just suddenly stop playing music after a while, certain amout of time
[18:02] <LargePrime> so simple question.  why does this not work http://www.progressivetalk1150.com/cc-common/ondemand/player.html?world=st    It is an internet radio station.  Does it work for you?
[18:02] <jrib> LargePrime: works ok for me with mplayer plugin
[18:02] <binskipy2u> vlc, amarok, etc
[18:02] <cabrey> !repeat
[18:02] <guntbert> !welcome | rizzle
[18:02] <dn4> !grub
[18:02] <rizzle> **what is the best DEDICATED SERVER host**?
[18:03] <jpangamarca1> @zagabar1 man mencoder
[18:03] <X11> !dualboot
[18:03] <rich____> liamo1, gedit ~/.profile
[18:03] <zagabar1> jpangamarca1, thanks
[18:03] <guntbert> !ot | rizzle
[18:03] <LargePrime> mplayer?  listening all day with just vlc, then it stopped
[18:03] <geoff1> jrib: used the user admin section from  which deleted the user but left a message saying that for security reasons it would not delete home file and therefore it refuses to let the name be re-used
[18:03] <edoceo> my libsndfile.so.1 disappeard!  when I apt-get install libsndfile1 to re-install it says "already newest version" - how to force?
[18:03] <binskipy2u> yeah
[18:03] <cabrey> edoceo, use synaptic to reinstall
[18:03] <jrib> geoff1: just rename the directory then
[18:04] <LargePrime> Thanks jrib
[18:04] <jrib> geoff1: or delete it if you don't want it
[18:04] <binskipy2u> just seems to play music for only so long, then stops, freezes, gotta force it, then you reopen it, and it wont allow you to open directory to play music again
[18:04] <truthordare> cabrey : can u help me?? please tell solution...
[18:04] <X11> !menu.lst
[18:04] <kazagistar> can you use wget and pipe all the files to NULL, instead?
[18:04] <cabrey> truthordare, does the script work?
[18:04] <jrib> kazagistar: sure, why though?
[18:04] <jontec> problem with wireless: I am able to see and attempt to connect to WEP networks, but I cannot set the encryption key... is this a common problem? Problem is noticable in NetworkManager, wifi-radar, and kwlan. Use of iwconfig to set the key with the key directive gives me an error for set encode. Is this a driver problem? On Jaunty.
[18:04] <TheDarkstar> how can i fix "the composite extension is not available" ?
[18:04] <X11> !multi.boot
[18:05] <jrib> TheDarkstar: what card do you have?
[18:05] <cabrey> !wireless
[18:05] <TheDarkstar> nvidia
[18:05] <binskipy2u> anyone here "leave" linux MINT to come "back" to ubuntu proper?
[18:05] <X11> !multiboot
[18:05] <TheDarkstar> already have the drivers installed
[18:05] <guntbert> !botabuse | X11
[18:05] <TheDarkstar> got 3 monitors tho...
[18:05] <kazagistar> jrib: do I just need to use a pipe, or does it need some parameter?
[18:05] <jrib> TheDarkstar: pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log and /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[18:05] <geoff1> OK will give it a go but the options to delete are greyed out so I am not sure if renaming option is available  -- cheers
[18:05] <jrib> kazagistar: a paramater, yes.   check the man page
[18:05] <zagabar1> jpangamarca1, That got me into mplayers manua
[18:05] <jj_> cabrey, well now this is odd, it will compile when ./configure, but if i wanna add ./configure --enable-shared --enable-visualize it says that
[18:05] <zagabar1> l
[18:06] <TheDarkstar> paste is here?
[18:06] <jj_> cabrey, must need additional compilers for one of them
[18:06] <TheDarkstar> *is =it
[18:06] <cabrey> !pastebin
[18:06] <geoff1> nope that option is greyed out too
[18:06] <jrib> geoff1: just use sudo to « mv /home/name /home/name_backup » is what I am suggesting
[18:06] <guntbert> geoff1: you need root privileges for that, so you do it from command line via sudo or you invoke nautilus with gksudo
[18:07] <hopeful> hey guys. so i get this job doing contract work for a company that runs a windows app I need to be able to use. I run kubuntu 9.04 X64. The company gets me a x64 copy of vmware workstation 6.5. it wont start and I get this error http://pastebin.com/m17b86ee . anybody have any ideas on how to satisfy dependencies. I have
[18:07] <Tip1> steam games wont launch on wine after yesterdays patch?
[18:07] <hopeful>  build-essentials an I believe the right kernal headers. google is yeilding me avery little
[18:07] <TheDarkstar> http://paste.ubuntu.com/193605/
[18:07] <TheDarkstar> can't fin the 0.log
[18:07] <jrib> hopeful: do you need to use vmware?  Why not use virtualbox
[18:08] <binskipy2u> hopeful, google virtualbox
[18:08] <TheDarkstar> ah wait
[18:08] <cabrey> jj_, what was the error again?
[18:08] <binskipy2u> its nice, its free, and it works very well, and there's a jaunty 64bit version
[18:08] <X11> geoff: try $ sudo nautilus , but , it may stop gnome_settings_manager daemon at the time
[18:08] <binskipy2u> get it from their website, NOT the repos
[18:08] <guntbert> gksu | X11 geoff1
[18:08] <kostas> hi...
[18:08] <Cosmo1> I know OSS supports multiple apps using the sound card, does ALSA?
[18:08] <edbian> geoff1: gksu nautilus (use gksu for graphical apps as root)
[18:08] <TheDarkstar> http://paste.ubuntu.com/193610/ is the 0.log
[18:08] <jrib> Cosmo1: sure
[18:09] <geoff1> um I am a recent xp deserter so am not very familiar with linux and ubuntu yet hat is sudo?
[18:09] <kostas> i istalled ubuntu 8 it is a wonderful linux ver
[18:09] <kostas> i installed virtual box and i have a problem
[18:09] <ivanatwork> ALSA + Surround?
[18:09] <Cosmo1> which tends to be better, ALSA or OSS?
[18:09] <hopeful> jrib: binskipy2u: vmware is industry standard and they dont want me using virtualbox. I already asked
[18:09] <guntbert> X11, geoff1: don't use sudo for graphical applications, use gksudo!
[18:09] <edbian> geoff1: What do you mean "hat is sudo??"
[18:10] <jrib> !vmware | hopeful
[18:10] <kostas> i installed it normally , then i created a new vmachine but i get this error :
[18:10] <metalfan_> why does "sudo mount /dev/sda7 /mnt/" return: unknown filesystem     the filesystem was created via "mkfs.ext4 /dev/sda7" ?   jaunty
 | execute program as the super user
[18:10] <jrib> !sudo > geoff1
[18:10] <kostas> VirtualBox kernel driver not installed. The vboxdrv kernel module was either not loaded or /dev/vboxdrv was not created for some reason. Please install the virtualbox-ose-modules package for your kernel, e.g. virtualbox-ose-modules-generic..
[18:10] <X11> guntbert: gksu = gksudo and work like sudo and affects to gnome_settings_manager daemon anyway...
[18:10] <TheDarkstar> jrib: got any idieas?
[18:10] <kostas> VirtualBox kernel driver not installed. The vboxdrv kernel module was either not loaded or /dev/vboxdrv was not created for some reason. Please install the virtualbox-ose-modules package for your kernel, e.g. virtualbox-ose-modules-generic..
[18:10] <kostas> VBox status code: -1908 (VERR_VM_DRIVER_NOT_INSTALLED).
[18:10] <kostas> Result Code:
[18:10] <kostas> 0x80004005
[18:10] <ivanatwork> how can i use surround with ALSA ?
[18:10] <FloodBot1> kostas: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:10] <kostas> Component:
[18:11] <guntbert> X11: please don't suggest using sudo for GUI apps
[18:11] <space_cadet> ok... so again, i can connect to a wireless N network, with a static config.. but a dynamic fails with the AR928x interface
[18:11] <jrib> TheDarkstar: i'll miss what you say unless you put my nick in your reply
[18:11] <nick125> Good morning. I'm having an issue with the volume hotkeys on my keyboard. The volume up/down keys work, but the mute key doesn't. It was working last night...but no such luck now. Any ideas?
[18:11] <kostas> could anyone help me with this error on virtual box?
[18:11] <kostas> thanks!
[18:12] <jontec> cabrey: if "!wireless" was directed at me, that page does not help
[18:12] <space_cadet> same here
[18:12] <TheDarkstar> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu.com/193605/ and http://paste.ubuntu.com/193610/
[18:12] <X11> guntbert: OK, that's why I explain the effects within too...
[18:12] <LaZyFo0L> with virtual box are you running ubuntu as the host machine?
[18:12] <space_cadet> Pici, well i successfully changed my hostname
[18:12] <kostas> yes
[18:12] <Cosmo1> which do you guys think tends to be better, ALSA or OSS?
[18:12] <space_cadet> Pici, but I am still having problems :(
[18:13] <jrib> TheDarkstar: don't know.  Your log indicates composite is enabled
[18:13] <metalfan_> Cosmo1, alsa....its open
[18:13] <guntbert> X11: :) just suggest gksu/gksudo for GUI Apps please
[18:13] <metalfan_> Cosmo1, oss is partly commercial
[18:13] <jrib> TheDarkstar: are you trying to turn on effects in System -> Preferences -> Appearance or doing something else?
[18:13] <zagabar1> How can I get mencoder to save a png file of a single frame from the webcam? I don't get the manual and google turns up nothing. :S
[18:13] <lazermouse> hi! I've recently accedentally uninstalled some ubuntu core packages. How do I get them back automaticly??
[18:13] <X11> kostas: what your ubuntu version?
[18:13] <jrib> lazermouse: install ubuntu-desktop
[18:13] <TheDarkstar> jrib: normal or extra in appearance yes
[18:14] <jrib> !compiz | TheDarkstar
[18:14] <nightdrever> are there any good driver channels?
[18:14] <lazermouse> thx jrib
[18:14] <jrib> TheDarkstar: they might be more familiar with the issue if no one here has any ideas
[18:14] <TheDarkstar> jrib: ok thx
[18:14] <X11> guntbert: OK, next time I would keep your advise... thanks
[18:14] <Cosmo1> ah ok thanks, mainly just need ventrilo and WoW to play nice in wine together
[18:15] <space_cadet> When dealing with Wireless, what is a "Custom Driver Event"
[18:15] <guntbert> X11: you know: I learned it the hard way ;-)
[18:15] <wiehan> I can not take this anymore! After every update something breaks in my ubuntu install. This time it is my sound and I'm using 9.04. This happened to my friend yesterday and her reinstalled his ubuntu, now I know it was the update. PLEASE HELP ME FIX THIS!
[18:16] <binskipy2u> wiehan..sometimes its the setting for that perticular sound app
[18:16] <X11> guntbert: yes of course...
[18:16] <binskipy2u> or in ssystem >>prefs>> sound
[18:16] <nightdrever> are there any good driver channels?
[18:16] <binskipy2u> pick the sound format.. alsa, pulse, etc
[18:16] <wiehan> binskipy2u: that is NOT the case.
[18:16] <binskipy2u> was for me
[18:16] <binskipy2u> one day i rebooted and couldnt get any sound anywhere
[18:16] <binskipy2u> it was set on oss somehow
[18:16] <binskipy2u> i set it to pulse , and then alsa
[18:17] <binskipy2u> both worked
[18:18] <wiehan> Can some one please help me my sound is not working. And binskipy2u please just stop - I checked that first, that is not the cause, tested every setting.
[18:18] <space_cadet> wow
[18:18] <space_cadet> !flood
[18:18] <space_cadet> !enter > binskipy2u
[18:19] <SeanTater> My wifi works automatically, so I didn't havew to configure anything. How then do I know what drivers I'm using?
[18:19] <space_cadet> run iwconfig
[18:20] <wiehan> Ubuntu 9.04 + latest update = sound not working!!!! Please help.
[18:20] <space_cadet> or lshw |grep network -A 15
[18:20] <SeanTater> space_cadet: I ran iwconfig but it doesn't seem to say - I'll try the other command
[18:20] <space_cadet> kk
[18:20] <X11> wiehan: Updating ubuntu via internet should use perfect internet connection... This ever happen to me too so I totally fresh install ubuntu 9.04
[18:20] <LargePrime> how does one sudo a file browser?
[18:21] <space_cadet> SeanTater, you would be looking for "module=" in the "configuration" line
[18:21] <zagabar1> Can someone very kind please tell me a command that I can write in the commandline that takes a screenshot/photo from my webcam video0? I have tried searching manuals and google, but no luck at all... :( I'm getting kindra frustrated. I just want a simple photo.
[18:21] <SeanTater> space_cadet: Thanks! That's exactly what I needed!
[18:21] <space_cadet> kk
[18:21] <X11> LargePrime: use $ gksu nautilus
[18:21] <Decepticon> what utility can i use to make screenshots (timed snapshots at regular intervals arranged into one file) of video files on command line
[18:21] <peeps[work]> is there an app to show which wifi channels are used in the area so I can pick one with less noise
[18:22] <space_cadet> peeps[work], lol you want less noise??  use an A network,  but then you sacrifice range :)
[18:22] <LargePrime> "sudo gksu nautilus" ? X11
[18:22] <space_cadet> LargePrime, gksu nautilus
[18:22] <sweetchildofmine> dear ubuntuites : is there a way, using a copy of a popular partitioning distro's live cd image, to boot from /sd2/superduperimage.iso, so I can resize my  root(sd6) partition without a cd?
[18:23] <space_cadet> LargePrime, or "gksudo nautilus"
[18:23] <trident523> sweetchildofmine: You need an external device, but unetbootin sounds like it'd work.
[18:23] <nick125> On my hotkey-not-working issue, it seems that the keymapping is fine, as xev says XF86AudioMute when I press the mute key, and the shortcut is assigned in the Keyboard Shortcuts dialog, yet nothing happens when I press it. I can manually mute the channel just fine.
[18:23] <X11> LargePrime: do not use sudo just $ gksu nautilus
[18:23] <sweetchildofmine> no, no external disks.
[18:23] <LargePrime> i see.  thanks X11 space_cadet
[18:23] <trident523> sweetchildofmine: ... you'd have to format the entire thing then, as far as I know.
[18:23] <sweetchildofmine> no, it already has grub.
[18:24] <sweetchildofmine> I want to add a custom entry to grub that loads an iso.
[18:24] <X11> LargePrime: your welcome...
[18:24] <space_cadet> booting from a compressed iso?
[18:24] <trident523> sweetchildofmine: I know, I'm pretty sure that's impossible. What's so wrong with using an external usb thing?
[18:25] <peeps[work]> space_cadet, no, i'm not interested in muying new hardware, i want to optimize my existing hardware
[18:25] <peeps[work]> s/muying/buying/
[18:25] <sweetchildofmine> look at it like this, I partitioned my drive as "/swap(2gbsda1),/home(4gbsda2),/root(60gbsda6)". I want to shrink my /root. I can't boot from usb images, I already tried. And putting in a cd requires me to buy and burn said cd.
[18:26] <zagabar1> Can someone very kind please tell me a command that I can write in the commandline that takes a screenshot/photo from my webcam video0? I have tried searching manuals and google, but no luck at all... :( I'm getting kindra frustrated. I just want a simple photo.   =(
[18:26] <space_cadet> sweetchildofmine, how old is your machine?
[18:26] <space_cadet> sweetchildofmine, because unless it's older than a 2004 machine, i can bet you CAN boot from USB
[18:26] <trident523> sweetchildofmine: If your bios supports usb booting, and you used a utility to extract the ISO onto the USB, then it should work.
[18:26] <sweetchildofmine> it's an ibm t40.
[18:27] <sweetchildofmine> and my flash drive is weird, I've iso and sys linux flashed it.
[18:27] <sweetchildofmine> isolinux/syslinux
[18:27] <tyler_d> zagabar1: press printscreen
[18:27] <X11> !patient > zagabar1
[18:27] <Alinn1> how to i use "find" command?
[18:27] <Alinn1> find path name
[18:27] <Alinn1> is this correct?
[18:27] <zagabar1> tyler_d, I'm gonna use it in a crontab script, so I need a command. And I have no gui.
[18:28]  * trident523 suggests unetbootin for extracting isos and making bootable USB sticks, it's never failed me.
[18:28] <space_cadet> sweetchildofmine, you ever try going into bios > go to the bios and under advance setting make the usb bootable.
[18:28] <space_cadet>     * 1 year ago
[18:28] <hopeful> jrib: just to make sure. virtualbox runs on x64 too right?
[18:28] <tyler_d> zagabar1: you should be able to pass the actual keystroke through using bash or ash
[18:28] <sweetchildofmine> I really want to do this... the way I wanted to do this.
[18:28] <trident523> Alinn1: type man find in your console.
[18:28] <sweetchildofmine> Is there any freaking way to make grub load a fake parition as a partition?
[18:28] <guo> hello?
[18:29] <zagabar1> tyler_d, how? And how do I specify where the pics will go and what format?
[18:29] <zagabar1> tyler_d,  I know nothing on this subject, and I found nothing nice on google.
[18:29] <trident523> !hi | guo
[18:29] <Alinn1> trident523: find [path...] [expression]
[18:29] <tyler_d> zagabar1: sounds to me like this is more a scripting question; your luck would be better in #bash or such...
[18:29] <Soopa> hi all
[18:29] <zagabar1> tyler_d, what is #bash?
[18:29] <Soopa> I added myself to a group with gpasswd, but that group doesn't show up with I do a groups.. do I need to restart a daemon or something?
[18:30] <zagabar1> Oh, a channel
[18:30] <hblount> hi. is it possible to "upgrade" from regular ubuntu to ubuntu studio without reinstalling?
[18:30] <space_cadet> sweetchildofmine, you CANNOT boot from a compressed ISO file, you have to have a filesystem
[18:30] <Soopa> err, show up when i do a groups
[18:30] <X11> sweetchildofmine: what the compressed iso you meant? is it a squashfs file?
[18:30] <space_cadet> sweetchildofmine, and your rig is capable of booting from usb
[18:30] <tyler_d> zagabar1: the terminal code is called bash scripting... #bash is a channel for questions relative to this.
[18:30] <trident523> hblount: install ubuntustudio-desktop
[18:30] <tyler_d> zagabar1: bash = bourne again shell
[18:30] <sebsebseb> hi
[18:31] <sweetchildofmine> it doesn't matter as long as I have some way to boot from my disk, without mounting my root partition.
[18:31] <zagabar1> tyler_d,  okay, thanks.
[18:31] <Unislash> hey all :)
[18:31] <trident523> sweetchildofmine: You could just boot from an ubuntu install CD, and run gparted. It'll be able to unmount it all.
[18:32] <Soopa> or, I guess a better question would be, how do I add myself to a group?
[18:32] <hblount> trident523: that's it?
[18:32] <sweetchildofmine> Various manufacturers such as ibm have predesktop options to recover the system in the event of a crash.. I should be able to set up ubuntu to do the same thing. Some people might lose their disk or not have a flash drive, and to recover their machine would mean a lot to them.
[18:32] <Unislash> i'm having trouble mixing sound here... i have no "mix" switch/level in my volume control (using ALSA, ubuntu 9.04
[18:32] <trident523> hblount: Yep.
[18:32] <hblount> awesome
[18:33] <MyWay> I'm using vino + vncviewer, if i don't disable compiz on the server, the screen on the client doesn't refresh until i reconnect to the server, why?
[18:33] <Unislash> anyone have any ideas how to enable my "mix" switch, or a workaround for the problem?
[18:33] <The-Compiler> "If you are running linux/MacOS you will have to pad the rom to 2MB (0x200000 bytes).e
[18:33] <The-Compiler> argh sorry
[18:33] <The-Compiler> "If you are running linux/MacOS you will have to pad the rom to 2MB (0x200000 bytes)." <- how to I do that? i.e. pad a file to 2MB?
[18:33] <hblount> trident523:  do you have an idea of how big the upgrade is?
[18:33] <trident523> sweetchildofmine: Yeah, because they have an entire partition dedicated to the restore utilities, which is set as bootable, and added to the MBR. In this case, grub will not take just an .iso on an partition and boot from it. You currently need an external device.
[18:33] <X11> sweetchildofmine: what you wanted is not too easy handled. I ever run live install from harddisk but I use the compressed iso as it is a squashfs.
[18:33] <trident523> hblount: I could check for you...
[18:33] <zagabar1> tyler_d: they said I needed a way to get a pic from the cam, and that dude didn't know. Do you know a good program for it?
[18:33] <LargePrime> jrib I installed mplayer plugin using the package manager.  site still does not work.  I prolly should go bug the #firefox guys?
[18:34] <Alinn1> trident523: How to copy the result of "find" to a directory?
[18:34] <hblount> trident523: its ok. thanks dood
[18:34] <trident523> hblount: download of 23.8mb, install of 132mb.
[18:35] <trident523> Alinn1: Well, I'm not excellent around the terminal, but there should be some way to send the results to "cp."
[18:35] <space_cadet> sweetchildofmine, your talking about bartPE
[18:35] <hblount> trident523: awesome!
[18:35] <space_cadet> sweetchildofmine, or WINPE
[18:35] <sweetchildofmine> or unetbootin's frugal install option.
[18:35] <Unislash> anyone have any experience in sound recording/mixing? i'm trying to record from the line in, but i have no "mix" slider
[18:35] <stevecam> i think i was crying in your face
[18:35] <trident523> Unislash: like, record the sound output back to input?
[18:36] <geirha> Alinn1: find -name something -print0 | xargs -0 cp -t /destination/dir
[18:36] <Unislash> trident523: yup
[18:36] <sebsebseb> Unislash: nah, but  audacity is for stuff like that I think
[18:36] <Alinn1> trident523: thanks:)
[18:36] <Unislash> sebsebseb: yup, i know, that's what i'm trying to record with :)
[18:36] <Korogiannos> what must I do (if it's possible) to have /dev/sda3 (ntfs) mounted to /media/Data  everytime I reboot Jaunty?
[18:36] <sebsebseb> Unislash: ah ok
[18:36] <Unislash> i've got it to the point where i can record a whisper of my output...
[18:36] <Unislash> kinda weird
[18:36] <adi1> hi. what alternatives do i have in jaunty besides ekiga
[18:36] <trident523> Unislash: Well... some modern soundcards have stereo mix disabled, but if you're not seeing it, and you know it's there, go to volume control -> prefs -> and make sure everything is checked.
[18:37] <adi1> i need to configure an sip account
[18:37] <adi1> any idea thanks
[18:37] <Alinn1> geirha: what is "-name something" and "-print0"?
[18:37] <Unislash> i've opened all my channels in volume control and put them all up, unmuted them, checked every switch...
[18:37] <Link23> Hi, my computer keeps freezing randomly.  It also freezes when I try to plug a monitor into my video card or even a fan.
[18:37] <ahmed> i want to remove all my profile setting in compiz
[18:37] <scunizi> adi1: sip? twinkle, skype(not sip), gizmo
[18:37] <GreaterCore> how do i change page size in writer? for example, i would like to set a5 size
[18:37] <Unislash> in audacity, my preferences for input and output are ALSA: Default
[18:37] <hblount> i have a usb guitar cable (made by first act, got it at target) that i cant seem to get to work. ubuntu seems to recognize it, but i can't get a signal or record with it. it didnt come with any software or cds, just the cable. it works on my vista comp. any ideas how to fix?
[18:37] <trident523> Link23: Do you have an ATI video card?
[18:37] <scunizi> GreaterCore: Format->Page
[18:37] <Unislash> ah, and i can playback sound in audacity...
[18:38] <Link23> trident523: yes ati rage 128
[18:38] <adi1> scunzi  | is it twinkle best for gnome?
[18:38] <trident523> Link23: compiz (Desktop effects) enabled?
[18:39] <heq> how can i do i have ubuntu server any one to do like work stasion with GUI
[18:39] <trident523> hblount: you'd have to investigate how the input is supposted to work.
[18:39] <Link23> trident523: it's drivers are not available to linux so no.
[18:39] <X11> Korogiannos: first, create folder Data in /media directory, nwxt try add to /etc/rc.local like: mount /dev/sda3 /media/Data
[18:39] <trident523> heq: Like a desktop, with a GUI? install ubuntu-desktop.
[18:39] <iceroot> heq: please what? you want ubuntu server with a gui like gnome?
[18:39] <geirha> Alinn1: -print0 will delimit all matches of find with zeroes. That ensures that filenames with spaces are handled properly. "-name something" or "-name '*.txt'" etc. will limit the files find output to files named "something" or files ending with ".txt", respectively
[18:40] <hblount> trident523: what do you mean? does that involve knowing programming or something?
[18:40] <Daniel_online> !themes
[18:40] <trident523> hblount: No, like, when it's in vista, does it show up as a sound card, an input device ...?
[18:40] <geirha> Alinn1: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1128937
[18:40] <ubuntu_> jest tu jakis polak
[18:41] <Pici> !pl | ubuntu_
[18:41] <lewion> Hey guys
[18:41] <hblount> hblount: it shows up as a microphone
[18:41] <Alinn1> geirha: Thanks so much:)
[18:41] <hblount> i mean trident523
[18:41] <trident523> hblount: sorry, I can't halp you there really.
[18:42] <hblount> trident523: ubuntu also sees it as a mic, it just dont work
[18:42] <hblount> trident523: ok, thx anwa
[18:42] <hblount> anyway
[18:42] <lewion> anyone know how I can filter
[18:42] <trident523> Link23: Er, you might have to install the open source ATI drivers...
[18:42] <lewion> find /usr/share -iname "*win*.html" -exec grep -il "win2k" {} \; -printf %f\\n
[18:42] <lewion> to show only names
[18:42] <lewion> ?
[18:42] <trident523> Link23: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver
[18:43] <lewion> i thought the printf should handle this but ...... it doesn't it still shows the path above the name
[18:43] <ahmed> i want to remove all my previous setting in compiz
[18:43] <LargePrime> jrib you got a sec?
[18:43] <VCoolio> ahmed: gconftool-2 --recursive-unset /apps/compiz
[18:43] <Trijntje> ahmed: compizconfig settings manager -> preferences -> reset to defaults
[18:43] <hblount> what is PCM on the volume control mixer?
[18:44] <trident523> ahmed: pref -> settings -> appearence, select none, than the middle one.
[18:44] <VCoolio> ahmed: what Trijntje is easier :P
[18:44] <nathan> #ubuntu-br
[18:44] <trident523> hblount: similar to Main, it's the volume on all non-mic sounds.
[18:44] <geirha> lewion: find /usr/share -iname "*win*.html" -print0 | xargs -0 grep -l 'win2k'
[18:45] <X11> hblount: PULSE CODE MODULATION
[18:45] <lewion> gonna try that geirha
[18:45] <lewion> :)
[18:45] <hblount> k thx
[18:46] <dfgas> is there an applet that will give me how much of the cpu a certain app is using
[18:46] <lewion> geirha, nope.. :(
[18:47] <ahmed> actually i couldn't find preferences
[18:47] <ahmed> it doesn't exist
[18:47] <trident523> dfgas: you could add the system monitor one, double click, and look there... but that's about it.
[18:47] <dfgas> trident523, ahh, ok
[18:48] <geirha> lewion: Seems I misread your question. find /usr/share -name "*win*.html" -exec grep -iq 'win2k' {} \; -printf "%f\n"
[18:49] <lewion> geirha, GOD TY!!!!!
[18:49] <ovidiu> hy
[18:49] <lewion> geirha, what does the -q do exactly?
[18:49] <X11> dfgas: if you really meant "applet" then try to click right (if your mouse right handed) on Panel and choose on pop-up menu > Add to Panel
[18:50] <ovidiu> i have a problem
[18:50] <geirha> lewion: It makes grep silent. The following -printf, will only print if grep returns true, and grep will only return true if it finds a match in that file.
[18:51] <lewion> geirha, nice thanks for the explanation
[18:51] <artti> Anyone here knows well php?
[18:51] <phase_shift314> i'm having a problem transcoding with avidemux on ubuntu, when i use the auto setting for ipod mp4 video it exports fine but when i try to play it with totem it will only play 3 seconds and then it freezes, i use avidemux in windows with no problems like this, anybody experience anything similar?
[18:51] <Pici> artti: The folks in ##php do
[18:51] <X11> artti: may I help?
[18:52] <darvish> help
[18:52] <artti> X11, if you can.
[18:52] <edbian> darvish: What seems to be the problem??
[18:53] <phase_shift314> btw i have encoded mp4 with avidemux on ubuntu using no prob before but now it seems to be a common problem
[18:53] <X11> artti: Ok i try, but keep remain this is ubuntu channel, ok because PHP also one of ubuntu packages...
[18:53] <LargePrime> dead fellows.  I am chatting with the mozilla guys.  could a few of you check this link and see if the radio works for you? http://www.progressivetalk1150.com/cc-common/ondemand/player.html?world=st  Thanks
[18:53] <raylu> phase_shift314: so the problem is with avidemux? try another player and see how it goes
[18:53] <artti> X11, we can go to private channel.
[18:53] <LargePrime> dear, not dead
[18:53] <ahmed> plz i don't know how i can reset compiz to default
[18:53] <Pici> X11: php programming is still offtopic for here, ##php is a better place to discuss it.
[18:53] <ahmed> i didn't found anything
[18:54] <VCoolio> ahmed: enter this in termina: gconftool-2 --recursive-unset /apps/compiz
[18:54] <VCoolio> *terminal
[18:54] <phase_shift314> raylu: they wont play on the ipod either or in windows using quicktime, it will play in vlc but thats because vlc will play almost anything
[18:54] <raylu> phase_shift314: uh... no that's not
[18:55] <raylu> phase_shift314: that's because quicktime and your ipod are screwed up
[18:55] <ivan-kanis> i have 8.04 and plugging USB mass devices do not automount, what gives?
[18:55] <ingcomrbr> hi there..
[18:55] <ingcomrbr> do you know where can i get a driver?
[18:55] <raylu> phase_shift314: i suggest installing mplayer and using "mplayer -identify filename"
[18:55] <Mal3ko> how do you copy all files in a folder/subfolders while skipping some files from a filelist
[18:55] <ingcomrbr> I need this driver but googling I haven't found it..
[18:56] <h32Lg> hi
[18:56] <phase_shift314> raylu: no i can use avidemux in windows and save the mp4 and it works fine in quicktime and on the ipod and my phone but if i make the video in ubuntu using avidemux then the video dose not work
[18:56] <raylu> Mal3ko: can't you just remove them after copying?
[18:56] <edbian> Mal3ko: Have you ever used rsync?
[18:56] <Guest40979> hello
[18:56] <SpiderBJ> ahoj banda
[18:56] <SpiderBJ> je tu niekto?
[18:56] <raylu> phase_shift314: but it does work. the video is there and vlc is able to play it. the issue is with playback, so the problem is quicktime and your ipod
[18:56] <Pici> ingcomrbr: Driver for *what*?
[18:56] <Pici> !cz | SpiderBJ
[18:56] <Mal3ko> raylu: copy all files but skip copying some files
[18:57] <edbian> Mal3ko: Have you ever used rysnc???
[18:57] <edbian> rsync*
[18:57] <SpiderBJ> ok, no problem, from njow I will speak only English :-D
[18:57] <ingcomrbr> a ticket printer EPSON TM U200B it is for a POS
[18:57] <phase_shift314> raylu: let me try and explain, only videos i make in ubuntu do not work, if i use avidemux in windows they work great
[18:57] <SpiderBJ> I am only testing new version of Xubuntu and there is IRC on this channel presinstalled
[18:58] <raylu> phase_shift314: your ipod and quicktime are no doubt picky about the video and how it is encoded
[18:58] <raylu> phase_shift314: again, could you install mplayer and run "mplayer -identify filename"?
[18:59] <phase_shift314> raylu: right, so the auto ipod setting for the ubuntu avidemux is off
[18:59] <phase_shift314> raylu: i will try
[18:59] <arber4444> how to put what im listenin on amsn
[19:00] <vostro> yeah
[19:00] <Hilikus> anyone know of a program that will let me send a msg on msn from the command line, but just send the message and terminate, not a full CLI client. just log in, send msg and quit
[19:01] <Hilikus> to report system problems in real time
[19:01] <liamo1> I have checked the help for ls but to no avail. How do I list the extensions of a known filetype (as opposed to using color)?
[19:01] <raylu> Hilikus: why msn? that doesn't make sense
[19:01] <vostro> you could do it on OS X with applescript
[19:01] <raylu> Hilikus: people do this all the time with e-mail/sms
[19:01] <phase_shift314> raylu: i tried that, it is playing the audio from the video and says 'Video: no video'
[19:01] <Hilikus> cause i'm always on msn
[19:02] <Joker_-_> anyone knows of a commandline tool to transfert/manage files on an iPod?
[19:02] <raylu> liamo1: list the extensions of a known filetype? huh?
[19:02] <raylu> phase_shift314: could you pastebin the entire output?
[19:02] <raylu> !ipod | Joker_-_
[19:02] <Bekka> halo?
[19:02] <phase_shift314> raylu: 1 sec
[19:02] <harleypig> Is there a way I can install a non-thread version of perl on my ubuntu box?
[19:02] <Bekka> ??
[19:02] <liamo1> I know!!!! raylu. I come from windows and I do not know some of the filetypes used in ubuntu.
[19:02] <grawity> So I just installed Xubuntu, and I have problems with the "proprietary nVidia driver". When the driver is enabled, the GUI doesn't work at all - the screen stays blank after boot. [I do have SSH installed]
[19:02] <Joker_-_> raylu: is that only about GUI ipod apps or is there anything about command line?
[19:03] <arber4444> hello i have a questions how to put what im listening im Amsn]
[19:03] <edbian> raylu: ls --file-type
[19:03] <raylu> liamo1: extensions mean very little in ubuntu
[19:03] <raylu> liamo1: if you want, you can use the "file" command on a file to get information about what is contained in it
[19:03] <edbian> raylu: ls --color=never
[19:03] <arber4444> with the "proprietary nVidia driver". When the driver is enabled, the GUI doesn't work at all - the screen stays blank after boot. [I do have SSH installed]
 raylu: is that only about GUI ipod apps or is there anything about command line?
 hello i have a questions how to put what im listening im Amsn]
[19:03] <arber4444> <-- vostro has quit (Client Quit)
 raylu: ls --file-type
[19:03] <FloodBot1> arber4444: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
 liamo1: extensions mean very little in ubuntu
[19:03] <raylu> Joker_-_: why don't you read it and find out? i've never looked at it myself
[19:03] <Nathancem> you know driver for ESP3?
[19:04] <Joker_-_> raylu: 'caus I've been there done that and nope, it doesnt.
[19:04] <edbian> raylu: It is true though that file extensions mean very little.  Most files in ubuntu don't even have them!
[19:04] <Joker_-_> raylu: I want a commandline tool
[19:04] <liamo1> But if i want to cp a file from one directory to another raylu.
[19:04] <phase_shift314> raylu: http://pastebin.com/d18613304
[19:04] <raylu> liamo1: ...?
[19:04] <edbian> liamo1: What is your question?
[19:04] <damian> perdon el canal en español?
[19:05] <Slart> !es | damian
[19:05] <MiddleLinuxAdmin> hey guys
[19:05] <xtfpizza> hey
[19:05] <MiddleLinuxAdmin> anyone use ia23-apt-get before?
[19:05] <sebsebseb> xtfpizza: hi
[19:05] <MiddleLinuxAdmin> *ia32-apt-get
[19:05] <edbian> MiddleLinuxAdmin: I have never heard of it.  What does it do?  Package manager?
[19:06] <raylu> phase_shift314: it seems that mplayer had trouble initializing video out. do you have another video file handy?
[19:06] <MiddleLinuxAdmin> it supposed to install 32 bit binary packages on 64 bits machine
[19:06] <anxiolytic_> How do I check where a package's files are? i.e if I install a -dev package where do I find the header/src files?
[19:06] <phase_shift314> yea i have mp4 that have worked
[19:06] <phase_shift314> raylu: yea i have mp4 that have worked
[19:06] <raylu> anxiolytic_: dpkg -L packagename
[19:06] <geirha> anxiolytic_: dpkg -L packagename
[19:06] <MiddleLinuxAdmin> however there is no example to show how to use it
[19:06] <phase_shift314> raylu: i'll run one and post the output
[19:06] <anxiolytic_> raylu, geirha thanks
[19:07] <edbian> MiddleLinuxAdmin: Not even in the man pages?
[19:07] <liamo1> Sorry I am learning about setting PATHs in ubuntu. I have installed cuda. I want to copy nvcc from one directory to another. nvcc is reported as an executable. However when i cp the file as administrator it reports that no such file or directory exists! the command i used was sudo cp /usr/local/cuda/bin/nvcc DEST
[19:07] <raylu> geirha: woah, that was weird
[19:07] <MiddleLinuxAdmin> ia32-apt-get looks nice package but no documenttation, edbian:yeah they don't have man package
[19:07] <jontec> problem with wireless on Jaunty, fresh install: installed ndiswrapper and drivers for my card while blacklisting b43; card is now not detected by system (was previously wlan0). The problem initially arose from an inability to connect to WEP networks because iwconfig could not set the key
[19:07] <raylu> liamo1: shouldn't that be /usr/local/bin/cuda/nvcc?
[19:08] <darnell> what software can i use to make a bootable windows usb drive?
[19:08] <darnell> there is unetbootin but only for linux
[19:08] <liamo1> OK thanks for that i'm learning slowly
[19:08] <raylu> jontec: why were you using iwconfig to set the key?
[19:08] <raylu> !tab | liamo1
[19:08] <sebsebseb> darnell: why would you want one of those?  this is Ubuntu support channel,  try ##windows
[19:08] <MiddleLinuxAdmin> I am thinking ia32-apt-get looks very promising project, but they are not famous for some reason
[19:09] <jontec> raylu: I tried using NetworkManager, wifi-radar, and kwlan; when I launched wifi-radar from the terminal I noticed that it was using iwconfig (I noticed the same error output) so I am assuming all of the programs use this method to set the key?
[19:09] <darnell> i know what it is. im asking anyone here if they have any ideas
[19:09] <edbian> liamo1: I have never used "PATHS" but I can tell you that if you are trying to type a local file name you can use the tab key to eliminate small errors.  For example if I was trying to get to "/usr/local/bin/script.sh" I could type cd /u *tab and it would fill the in the rest of usr or list all the possible folders.  This is particularly handy with long file names.
[19:10] <raylu> jontec: strange. what was the error that you got when trying to set the key manually?
[19:10] <edbian> liamo1: Then you would have "cd /usr" and you could add "/lo" so you have /usr/lo *press tab twice* and get the rest of "local" Do you understand??
[19:10] <liamo1> edbian thanks for the info
[19:10] <Slart> darnell: you want to make a windows boot drive you would probably need to use a windows tool.. I don't think mkfs does these kinds of things.. you probably need windows files
[19:10] <edbian> liamo1: NP  I suspect that you simply have a typo in your cp command
[19:10] <jontec> raylu: it was error SET ENCODE... using syntax like `sudo iwconfig <device> key <hex key>`
[19:11] <raylu> jontec: ok. do you have the ndiswrapper module loaded?
[19:11] <jontec> raylu: I can't exactly reproduce it now... the card is no longer detected
[19:11] <jontec> raylu: I think so... it was appended to /etc/modules
[19:11] <raylu> jontec: lsmod | grep ndis
[19:11] <phase_shift314> raylu: ok i tired one that i know works on the ipod --> http://pastebin.com/d5dcd0416
[19:11] <raylu> jontec: also, ndiswrapper -l
[19:11] <edbian> jontec: To load a module run : sudo modprobe <modulename>
[19:12] <arber4444> hello how to put what im listenin on ubuntu 9.04 on Amsn help i need
[19:12] <jontec> raylu: yeah, I can see an entry for it
[19:12] <phase_shift314> raylu: :( still not playing video from mplayer
[19:12] <raylu> phase_shift314: and that didn't play either?
[19:12] <arber4444> hello how to put what im listenin on ubuntu 9.04 on Amsn help i need
[19:12] <jontec> edbian: I also ran that... I actually followed the directions at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=297092
[19:12] <Slart> arber4444: there is probably a plugin... and please stop spamming the channel
[19:12] <edbian> arber4444: I have never done what you are trying to do (nor do I use amsn) but I will try and help if you would like
[19:13] <julia_2> >	hey. if 2 user access the same data they dont know that they work in the same document. oplock = yes, level2 oplocks=yes, strict locking=yes. what can i do?
[19:13] <arber4444> ues please
[19:13] <jontec> raylu: ndiswrapper           193308  0
[19:13] <phase_shift314> raylu: its playing the audio but not the video, this one worked on the ipod though and it works on quicktime, totem and vlc and my phone
[19:13] <julia_2> SAMBA problem
[19:13] <edbian> arber4444: Be specific what are you trying to do and what have you done to try and achieve this?
[19:13] <mdm> jontec: you have to set DISPLAY
[19:13] <jontec> mdm: what?
[19:14] <jontec> mdm: where would I set it and what does it do?
[19:14] <mdm> jontec: it can not open your display it is either not set, or you do not have xvideo
[19:14] <mdm> jontec: try export DISPLAY=:0 and then try adding -vo x11 to it
[19:14] <jontec> mdm: I'm not the guy with the video problem... I have the wireless problem
[19:14] <mdm> sorru jontec I thought that was your pastebin :)
[19:14] <Patrick9> can anyone tell me how to fix the window placement issue without ccsm?
[19:15] <MiddleLinuxAdmin> so guys, I guess no one has used ia32 or need to install 32 bits packages on his 64 bits ubuntu
[19:15] <Slart> Patrick9: I wasn't even aware there was a "window placement issue".. can you explain?
[19:15] <raylu> phase_shift314: well... i have no idea then. there's something wrong with playback on your system and there's something wrong with avidemux or the way you used it. i also have no experience with ipods, so i'm out of useful ideas
[19:16] <Slart> MiddleLinuxAdmin: installed 32bit packages, yes... used ia32-apt-get to do it, no
[19:16] <Patrick9> Slart: all of my windows open in the top left corner. seems this simple problem hasnt been solved yet.
[19:16] <raylu> phase_shift314: i think mdm was trying to help you, though
[19:16] <MiddleLinuxAdmin> Slart: how did u do it, chroot?
[19:16] <mdm> Patrick9: do any of your windows have any boarders or controlls?
[19:16] <Slart> MiddleLinuxAdmin: I used dpkg most of the time
[19:16] <Slart> Patrick9: it's the same if you use a live cd?
[19:17] <phase_shift314> raylu: well thanks anyway i'll keep diggin around
[19:17] <Patrick9> Slart: I cant remember
[19:17] <Patrick9> Slart: does the same thing happen for you?
[19:17] <Joker_-_> any idea how to give permission to the wireless network manager (or something like that) to access the keyring without asking me permission?
[19:17] <MiddleLinuxAdmin> slart:so you locate the package by yourself
[19:17] <raylu> jontec: and ndsiwrapper -l?
[19:17] <Slart> Patrick9: nope
[19:17] <edbian> Patrick9: The default window manager (when compiz isn't running) is called metacity.  There is a gui tool all over the internet if you search "how to configure metacity" or you can use gconf-tool
[19:17] <jrib> LargePrime: are you actually using mplayer plugin?  It is not enough to install the package
[19:17] <Slart> MiddleLinuxAdmin: I manually downloaded the package
[19:18] <Slart> Patrick9: haven't heard of anyone else with that problem either.. is it reported on launchpad?
[19:18] <mdm> Patrick9: what you are discribing sounds like a display without a window manager.  if the windows have no boarders and no controls and you can not move them arround the desktop then you need to run a window manager
[19:18] <LargePrime> jrib.  How would I know?
[19:18] <jrib> LargePrime: about:plugins
[19:18] <jontec> raylu: first it provides me a warning about /etc/modprobe.d/ndiswrapper not having the .conf file extension, then it says bcmwl5: driver installed, device (14E4:4311) present (alternate driver: ssb)
[19:18] <edbian> Patrick9: What happens if in a terminal you run metacity --replace
[19:18] <edbian> ??
[19:18] <Patrick9> Slart mdm: I got metacity thats it
[19:19] <mdm> Patrick9: can you move then windows?
[19:19] <rameshwo> anyone know what actually does jaunty jackalope mean ?
[19:19] <Patrick9> mdm: yes
[19:19] <cabrey> rameshwo, it is a code name
[19:19] <mdm> Patrick9: then what is the issue?
[19:19] <cabrey> rameshwo, traditional
[19:19] <Patrick9> edbian: I did that and my shadows turned off
[19:19] <sebsebseb> rameshwo: all versions of Ubuntu have been  named after an animal
[19:19] <Slart> rameshwo: you meant to ask why google doesn't work for you?
[19:19] <LargePrime> jrib I have the plugin.  should I disable vlc and the windows one?
[19:20] <Joker_-_> rameshwo: a jackalope is a mix between a rabbit and an antilope. Mainly a rabbit with woods.
[19:20] <Patrick9> mdm: anytime I open new window they all open in the top left corner of the my screen, not where I last closed them.
[19:20] <edbian> Patrick9: Your shadows??
[19:20] <jrib> LargePrime: sure
[19:20] <kabdotinfo> Joker_-_: and jaunty?
[19:20] <jontec> raylu: the warning says that the configuration file will not be found in future versions without the extension... I don't know if it applies to this one or not
[19:20] <mdm> Patrick9: unless the app you use is aware of your window manager and can save its settings that is normal behavior
[19:20] <MiddleLinuxAdmin> thanks guys
[19:20] <linduxed> the MIT keyserver both refuses to revoke my key and refuses to accept a new one
[19:20] <MiddleLinuxAdmin> take care
[19:21] <mdm> Patrick9: some will even open no matter what you set according to the focus or the mouse position.  Its pretty much up to each app to adhear to the window manager
[19:21] <Joker_-_> kabdotinfo: well, means "kind". It's a derivate from french's "Gentil".
[19:21] <Joker_-_> kabdotinfo: one could say it's "friendly rabbit with woods"
[19:21] <lewion> geirha, what wrong with this "find /home/lewion -iname "*.sh" -exec tar zcvfr bestand.shellscripts.tar.gz {} \;"
[19:21] <lewion> it needs to search all files ending on .sh and tarring them together
[19:21] <lewion> :)
[19:22] <LargePrime> jrib ok disabled all media plugins.  still broke
[19:22] <linduxed> whats wrong with it...
[19:22] <kabdotinfo> Joker_-_: with woods?
[19:22] <jrib> LargePrime: when you right click on the media, do you have a menu?
[19:22] <hblount> i have a usb guitar cable (made by first act, got it at target) that i cant seem to get to work. ubuntu seems to recognize it, but i can't get a signal or record with it. it didnt come with any software or cds, just the cable. it works on my vista comp. any ideas how to fix?
[19:22] <geirha> lewion: That will tar each file, overwriting the previous one
[19:22] <Joker_-_> kabdotinfo: woods... check a picture of a male antilope
[19:22] <LargePrime> yep jrib
[19:22] <lewion> geirha, so how do i do it correctly?
[19:22] <jrib> LargePrime: mplayer plugin menu?
[19:22] <lewion> -A hasn't worked either
[19:23] <Joker_-_> kabdotinfo: http://www.lawnjockeymusic.net/_wizardimages/Jackalope.jpg
[19:23] <geirha> lewion: find /home/lewion -iname "*.sh" -print0 | xargs -0 tar zcvrf bestand.shellscripts.tar.gz
[19:23] <LargePrime> I only have a grey square where I would have the pic above the player and where the player would be
[19:23] <unop> lewion, -f needs to be the last option. try   find /home/lewion -iname "*.sh" -exec tar zcvrf bestand.shellscripts.tar.gz {} \;
[19:24] <LargePrime> and the grey square is smaller than it should be
[19:24] <LargePrime> jrib
[19:24] <kabdotinfo> Joker_-_: horns?
[19:24] <lewion> both of them give the same fault
[19:24] <jrib> LargePrime: does your menu have the option for "play"?
[19:24] <lewion> I'll copy it
[19:24] <Dethroned> kk...I just got my laptop today and I have 238 gigs of free space on my HD.  If I want to dual boot Ubuntu, how much hd space should I give it?
[19:24] <lewion> find /home/lewion -iname "*.sh" -exec tar zcvrf bestand.shellscripts.tar.gz {} \;
[19:24] <lewion> ow
[19:24] <LargePrime> no, it is the standard right click menu
[19:24] <lewion> tar: You may not specify more than one `-Acdtrux' option
[19:24] <lewion> Try `tar --help' or `tar --usage' for more information.
[19:24] <mdm> hblount: USB is a connection bus, nothing less, nothing more.  If you plug something into it you still need a module for it (what windows calls a driver).  Even then you have to have a program to use whatever device that module made.
[19:24] <FloodBot1> lewion: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:24] <lewion> that's the fault
[19:24] <lewion> sorry floodbot :p
[19:24] <Slart> Dethroned: depends what you are going to do with it.. a base install needs about 10 GB or so..
[19:24] <edbian> Dethroned: ubuntu needs minimum 2GB just for the OS Usually you give it at least 5GB and then however much room you need for your own files.
[19:25] <geirha> lewion: Right, lose the -r :)
[19:25] <unop> lewion, that's because you are using both 'r' and 'c' -- i think you should drop 'c'
[19:25] <lewion> really? :D
[19:25] <Joker_-_> kabdotinfo: I usually speak french and it's called "bois" in french, wich is "woods" in english, but thats a lousy textual translation. It might be called horns... altho in french, horns are more related to cars/motorcycles, as a speaker or kinf of trumpet (horn?!) that makes a loud sound :P
[19:25] <lewion> c = create right :s
[19:25] <lewion> you can't drop the basic operation :s
[19:25] <mdm> Dethroned: you need about 10G for the OS, the same ammount of physical memory for swap and the rest is a matter of how you use the system
[19:25] <Dethroned> I'm going to use the Windows portion for games but I might use the ubuntu part for word processing etc with OpenOffice
[19:25] <unop> lewion, and 'r' is append - which conflicts with 'c'
[19:26] <lewion> true
[19:26] <LargePrime> mediaplayerconnectivity shows no media links jrib
[19:26] <geirha> lewion: -r will create if the archive doesn't exist, but you can't append to a gziped archive
[19:26] <edbian> Dethroned: Make sure you install windows first and ubuntu second.  Windows is too stupid to understand dual booting.
[19:26] <lewion> zo how do I get all those files together
[19:26] <jrib> LargePrime: umm, what does mediaplayerconnectivity have to do with anything?
[19:26] <lewion> my search result
[19:26] <lewion> in the tar
[19:26] <lewion> :p
[19:26] <kabdotinfo> Joker_-_: So in short, a friendly rabbit with a trumpet ;P
[19:26] <Dethroned> I already have Windows on here
[19:26] <geirha> lewion: find /home/lewion -iname "*.sh" -print0 | xargs -0 tar zcvf bestand.shellscripts.tar.gz
[19:26] <edbian> Dethroned: Than you're good to go!
[19:26] <Dethroned> Wundebar!
[19:26] <Basic_> .undernet.org
[19:27] <LargePrime> I just thought it would show the page I am seeing has NO media links in it
[19:27] <oriol> Hi, I have a problem with ubuntu 9.04, i have an amd 64 processor,  computer freeze very often
[19:27] <lewion> ok and do you care to tell me why that works? :D
[19:27] <Dethroned> I've heard something about a swap partition with dual booting.  What is this?
[19:27] <oriol> i have both version 32 bits and 64 bits
[19:27] <jrib> !swap | Dethroned
[19:27] <oriol> both freeze
[19:27] <Joker_-_> kabdotinfo: nah, with woods, things on it's head made looking like a branch. Look at the picture :P http://www.lawnjockeymusic.net/_wizardimages/Jackalope.jpg
[19:27] <LargePrime> I just thought it would show the page I am seeing has NO media links in it jrib
[19:27] <LargePrime> whick is strange?
[19:27] <Slart> oriol: usual suspects are cooling problems.. unless you've got some other details about the problem
[19:27] <geirha> find prints the filelist to stdout, which is piped to stdin of xargs. xargs turns each element of stdin into a command line argument to the following command
[19:27] <geirha> lewion: ^
[19:28] <edbian> Dethroned: swap is used as a sort of extension of ram.  You should have a swap partition of about 1 - 2GB
[19:28] <lewion> so you can't do that with a -exec ?
[19:28] <edbian> Dethroned: Windows does the same thing but they call it the "page file"
[19:28] <kabdotinfo> Joker_-_: The joker can't spot jokes? ;)
[19:28] <mdm> oriol: when you say freeze do you mean its unresponisve to the keyboard?  does it display anything? does it respond to a ping from the network?
[19:28] <hblount> mdm: so if ubuntu recognizes the device but theres no signal from guitar and the usb cable didnt come with anything am i out of luck?
[19:28] <Joker_-_> kabdotinfo: Gues i'm not *that* good in english yet :)
[19:28] <geirha> lewion: You can, if you use -r instead of -c, and not gzip it untill afterwards
[19:28] <jrib> LargePrime: http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/791/prime.png do you see that or not?
[19:29] <Joker_-_> kabdotinfo: I miss a lot of subtile / semi-subtile jokes, indeed :P
[19:29] <lewion> hmm :)
[19:29] <oriol> yes it is unresponsive to keyboard, well when i press alt + bloqsys + b it restart
[19:29] <lewion> thanks for the info yet again :)
[19:29] <Dethroned> Does the 9.04 make it easier to make a swap partition?
[19:29] <edbian> hblount: Add the volume applet to your gnome panel and open it up.
[19:29] <mdm> hblount: if lsusb sees it, then its registerd to the bus, you need to look up its ID that lsusb gave you and see what module it has.  If you are lucky its just a matter of a modprobe, if not you better learn to code a module in C
[19:29] <bradyoo> Hello.
[19:29] <geirha> lewion: find /home/lewion -iname "*.sh" -exec tar rvf bestand.shellscripts.tar {} \; ; gzip bestand.shellscripts.tar
[19:29] <edbian> Dethroned: The installer makes it for you if you choose "guided"
[19:29] <raylu> jontec: that warning can be safely ignored
[19:29] <bradyoo> I need some help with driver installation
[19:29] <raylu> jontec: does ifconfig -a show your device?
[19:30] <mdm> hblount: type lsusb and pastebin the output
[19:30] <oriol> mdm,
[19:30] <Dethroned> edbian:  Will that still allow me to choose my partition sizes for Windows and Ubuntu?
[19:30] <kabdotinfo> Joker_-_: Woods is similar to forest for me, never heard woods as something else, though I'm from Sweden.. so what do I know? :P
[19:30] <bradyoo> I'm having trouble getting my ethernet to work.
[19:30] <jontec> raylu: no, it doesn't. T_T
[19:31] <jontec> raylu: I'm guessing that that's because I blacklisted b43 and this driver is not working?
[19:31] <mpearlst> Greetings. I have a folder I created under /var/www. I tried to set the permissions with chown -R www-data /var/www/dir. I put a file called m.html and chown'd that to www-data as well which contained the text hello world. trying to go to http://localhost/dir/m.html results in a file not found, which i assume is a permissions problem. I'm not sure exactly what I should be doing.
[19:31] <Joker_-_> kabdotinfo: guess it's called woods :P
[19:31] <oriol> mdm, it responses to alt + bloqsys + b
[19:31] <Nehyx> bye
[19:31] <oriol> only
[19:31] <TTilus> Dethroned: yes it does, if you dont go with full automagic (i.e. choose guided partitioning)
[19:31] <Le_0> salut
[19:31] <edbian> Dethroned: Yes.  In my opinion the easiest was to do it is to open the LIVE CD and create an area on your harddrive that as "unallocated" (meaning it is unformatted)  and then in the installer choose "guided - use available empty space"
[19:32] <mdm> oriol: if it responds to the keyboard input its not frozen
[19:32] <hblount> mdm: sorry i'm noob. what exactly does that mean to do?
[19:32] <unop> lewion, you could use -exec like this.  find /home/lewion -iname "*.sh" -exec tar czvf bestand.shellscripts.tar.gz {} +
[19:32] <maple> hello
[19:32] <Slart> mpearlst: hmm.. wouldn't that give you a permission error?
[19:32] <unop> lewion, note the + instead of \; there
[19:32] <jrib> mpearlst: does it work if you place it in /var/www?
[19:32] <goddard> I have a usb drive that is constantly getting disconnected on its own
[19:32] <sky_1> how i can get data from ubuntu to XP on virtual box ?
[19:33] <lewion> and that does?
[19:33] <oriol> how can i solve this problem
[19:33] <mpearlst> jrib: Correct. There are other directories under /var/www which work also.
[19:33] <LargePrime> jrib Not since noon.  That is that I usually see. Now I see  http://bayimg.com/CAAiJaaco
[19:33] <oriol> how can i restore the system without restarting when i have this problem ?
[19:33] <Slart> sky_1: you can setup a "shared folder" that you can access using some kind of network thing in the vm
[19:33] <mdm> hblount: a linux system has various tools to inveistate its hardware, lsusb lists all devices it sees on the USB bus, gives its ID (which is unique, or should be to the hardware) and possibly a string it provides as to what the thing is
[19:33] <jrib> mpearlst: pastebin ls -l /var/www /var/www/dir
[19:33] <mpearlst> One second please
[19:33] <lewion> cool 3 different ways I'm gonna ROCK at skool xD
[19:33] <unop> lewion,  + causes all the files found by find to be passed to the command in -exec together .. while with \; each file is passed in separately, one at a time
[19:34] <sky_1> Slart: but dont see this folder in virtual XPO !
[19:34] <lewion> thanks man :D
[19:34] <jrib> LargePrime: pastebin about:plugins
[19:34] <Le_0> quelqu'un à déjà eu un problème à l'install de last chaos?
[19:34] <erUSUL> !fr
[19:34] <edbian> sky_1: You have to create one using virtual box
[19:34] <kabdotinfo> Joker_-_: Antlers seems to be more correct, rabbit with antlers, how's that in french?
[19:34] <Slart> sky_1: I usually have to search around before I find it too.. I think it's a network place... check the documentation for virtualbox.. I think there are examples and such
[19:35] <hblount> mdm: thx. what do you mean by pastebin?
[19:35] <Slart> !ot | kabdotinfo, Joker_-_
[19:35] <Joker_-_> kabdotinfo: yes, just found that :)
[19:35] <mdm> !pastebin
[19:35] <sky_1> Slart: bah dont have time
[19:35] <kabdotinfo> Slart: But this is about the latest release..
[19:35] <LargePrime> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/193656/ jrib
[19:35] <Slart> kabdotinfo, Joker_-_ : and, no.. antlers/woods/horns whatever is not on topic.. no matter what mythical creatures they name the release after =)
[19:35] <mpearlst> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu.com/193658/ <-- As Requested
[19:35] <mdm> hblount: not to be sarcastic, but you did read the topic when you came in, right :)
[19:36] <darkham> hi, people, how can i save my skype past conversations in ubuntu?
[19:36] <jrib> LargePrime: can you disable media player connectivity?
[19:36] <LargePrime> jrib yep, done
[19:36] <oriol> i found a website with a possible solution : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1130582
[19:36] <oriol> they say it is dangerous
[19:36] <jrib> LargePrime: same?
[19:37] <kazagistar> darkham: one possible option is a addon for Pidgin that lets you use skype through pidgin, and then pidgin can store all your conversation logs
[19:37] <mdm> oriol: what is lsusb or pastebin?  because neither is.
[19:37] <LargePrime> jrib yes
[19:37] <kabdotinfo> Slart: One can say that I need support as to understand what it means ;)
[19:37] <mib_e7gek0m8> hello guys
[19:37] <jrib> LargePrime: create a new firefox profile
[19:37] <mib_e7gek0m8> what channel talks about computer hardwares?
[19:37] <eshat> Hi all, why does firefox show a gnome filemanger, when uploading files, although I am on KDE 4.2.4 ???
[19:38] <jrib> mib_e7gek0m8: #hardware
[19:38] <mib_e7gek0m8> thanks jrib
[19:38] <LargePrime> jrib, i'll google how to do that
[19:38] <Slart> kabdotinfo: =) I hear they have an antlers-expert in #ubuntu-offtopic.. really good with those things
[19:38] <hblount> uh, yeah i read the topic and have been searching about this issue....didnt see anything about lsusb
[19:38] <kazagistar> darkham: http://eion.robbmob.com/
[19:38] <mdm> hblount: no it tells you about pastebin
[19:38] <rich____> eshat, do you have ubuntu-desktop & kubuntu-desktop installed?
[19:38] <kabdotinfo> Slart: haha :)
[19:38] <oriol> i don't know :)
[19:38] <jrib> mpearlst: weird.  I don't see how it can be a permissions issue though.  Try clearing your browser's cache
[19:38] <unop> eshat, firefox uses Gtk rather than Qt
[19:39] <mpearlst> jrib: Ok. Please hold.
[19:39] <darkham> kazagistar: ok, i know, but peeple on pidgin channel said me about the instability of the plugin and they haven't no interest to fix/job on it...
[19:39] <Mr_Dust> [Question] I'm trying to compile a package. Then there's an error "/bin/bash: dist: command not found". So I install dist and nmh, but the same error displays yet. How can I fix?
[19:39] <mpearlst> jrib: i'm still getting a 404 on a different machine. Any thoughts?
[19:40] <mpearlst> jrib: Other directories (such as the wiki dir) are working fine.
[19:40] <Mr_Dust> see this, http://dust.u1i.info/screenshots/Mr.Dust-desktop-20090612-03m40m17s.png
[19:40] <kazagistar> darkham: I used it for quite a while about a year ago (until I stopped using Skype), and found it rather stable, but things might have changed
[19:40] <jrib> mpearlst: restart apache, but you shouldn't have to.  If it persists, I would try #apache
[19:41] <mpearlst> Understood. Thank you again for your help. I'm going to restart and see if that helps
[19:41] <heroin> How can i retrieve a list of folders i share?
[19:41] <bbeecher> Hey, does anyone know how to reconfigure jaunty to use python2.5 by default?
[19:42] <bbeecher> I tried dpkg-reconfigure
[19:42] <jrib> bbeecher: you don't want to do that, just call it explicitly if your script needs it
[19:42] <fream> can someone help my install some kind of decent drivers for my graphics card ATI Xpress 200m, I've tried two times to install ATI binary x.org driver and both times my laptop crashes and won't shoe the login screen. My ubuntu version is 9.04. Glxgears shows that my fps is 250.
[19:42] <bbeecher> jrib: unfortunately I have to use 2.5 for work, and that needs to be the default version called by twisted and some other tools
[19:43] <jrib> bbeecher: you may break some scripts that expect it to not be 2.5 though
[19:44] <leagris> Mr_Dust, you miss a command named dist
[19:44] <bbeecher> jrib: I know - pip isn't working already. I ended up just switching the version of python under /usr/bin, but I'd like to use apt to grab some packages
[19:44] <rich____> interesting problem that
[19:44] <lewion> geirha, how do I count the number of sh scripts that I archived into the tar.gz (reads it out of the tar) and show that in echo?
[19:45] <bbeecher> jrib: if I have to just compile them then I could do that, but I'd rather automate it if I can
[19:45] <Mr_Dust> leagris: I know. so I install dist and nmh. but the same message apprears.
[19:45] <twoface> hi. my network card (RTL8168B) does not work when booting the new 2.6.28-13 kernel, but has worked with all previous. is this a known problem?
[19:45] <zapas28> wenas
[19:45] <mpearlst> jrib: I was able to resolve the problem. FYI: I had an alias specified in my apache config file. Go figure. Thank you again for your help!
[19:45] <jrib> bbeecher: if you install 2.5 from the repositories, then the libraries will be available for 2.5
[19:46] <leagris> Mr_Dust, the command dist may belong to some any package name. You can install apt-file that enable you to search file names within uninstalled packages
[19:46] <JohnWittle> So
[19:46] <amee2k> how stable is unstable?
[19:46] <bbeecher> jrib: reinstall it? ok, I'll try that. Thanks!
[19:47] <JohnWittle> I install nautilus, and it changes my autostart.sh to run a bunch of gnome stuff
[19:47] <leagris> Mr_Dust, after installing apt-fil do a sudo apt-file update
[19:47] <JohnWittle> that previously did not run
[19:47] <JohnWittle> also, instead of bmpanel it now uses gnome-panel
[19:47] <JohnWittle> and i have the stupid gnome menu at the top, even though i'm not running gnomme
[19:47] <JohnWittle> what the hell happened/
[19:47] <JohnWittle> why can't i just use nautilus without changing everything about my system?
[19:47] <damian_> ubuntu spanish
[19:47] <Mr_Dust> leagris: humm.. I'm doing.
[19:48] <LargePrime> ALL HAIL jrib.  SO GOOD THAT CAN FIX OTHER STUFF, like firefox
[19:48] <damian_> hola ubuntu en español
[19:48] <LargePrime> and the firefox guys couldnot
[19:48] <losher>  !es | damian_
[19:48] <Mr_Dust> leagris: Then.. how can I find the package that includes dist?
[19:48] <ctmjr> !es
[19:48] <bbeecher> jrib: no, apt thinks I already have 2.5 installed - it's auto upgrading the pkg I'm requesting to be the 2.6 version. You want me to try removing it and then reinstalling?
[19:49] <leagris> Mr_Dust, you may do a apt-file search bin/dist or juste apt-file search dist
[19:49] <mdm> amee2k: it comes from debians unstable and it means things that are currently under development. it is filled with lots of beta code.  And the fact you are asking what it is probbly means you should not run it
[19:49] <jerbear> how can i kill my vpn connection from the command line?
[19:49] <amee2k> zapas28: if you have any questions, please state them in channel instead of OMing random people. thank you.
[19:49] <rich____> apt-file
[19:49] <Mr_Dust> leagris: thank you. but there're too many packages. wow..
[19:49] <rich____> ?
[19:49] <FabParma> I have a computer repair and small-shop. I would like to offer to citizens of my small city a free internet use, especially for students, not rich people and Linux interested. I have already installed the computer and Linux but now I need to shapping the bandwidth into the Linux client.. In more I need to permit to see the gateway Ip address only. Do you think it is possible?
[19:50] <cporter> How might I go about making a program run as a daemon? I execute the program I want in rc.local, but it doesn't seem to work correctly.
[19:50] <mdm> FabParma: quite, and its rather easy too
[19:50] <amee2k> mdm: i'd like to have awesome3, but for that i'd either need to switch to unstable or compile it from scratch. i'm running 9.04. are there reasons to prefer either of the two ways?
[19:50] <lewion> how do I count the number of sh scripts that I archived into the tar.gz (reads it out of the tar) and show that in echo? anyone? :p
[19:50] <zapas28> ok amee2k, what is Oming?
[19:50] <amee2k> a typoed version of "PMing"
[19:51] <leagris> Mr_Dust, my quick search did not found any dist commands pertaining to any ubuntu packages
[19:51] <hblount> mdm: ok i see what pastebin is. but is it ok if i just type the single line that represents the usb guitar cable that i'm having trouble with?
[19:51] <rich____> lewion, give me a few mins :)
[19:52] <mdm> amee2k: if you want cutting edge software, along with all its headaches go to unstable.  If you want mostly a working system then use stable and compile your own prepackages keeping in mind those packages can destablise your system.  Then of course you have to know how to compile code and create pacakges
[19:52] <mdm> yes hblount, if you can identify it
[19:52] <FabParma> mdm: what sorry?
[19:52] <amee2k> lewion: tar has an option to list the files it contains, then use grep on the output?
[19:52] <leagris> Mr_Dust, the dist thing may belong to an unsupported environment, you appear to compile some java application. Did you web search the error and application name?
[19:52] <JohnWittle> why does installing nautilus install gnome, too?
[19:52] <Mr_Dust> leagris: really? my search found these. http://paste.ubuntu.com/193669/
[19:53] <mdm> FabParma: what you are asking is can you setup a captive portal and bandwidth shaping in linux.  I told you it was quite posible and even easy to do so.  There are countless howtos on that subject alone.
[19:53] <lewion> I will rich :D
[19:53] <amee2k> mdm: hm... i see
[19:53] <amee2k> mdm: i think i'll make some time to compile it then. thanks :)
[19:53] <jrib> bbeecher: no, that's not what I meant.  I believe that if you have 2.5 and 2.6 both installed, then apt will install modules for both version when you install a module with apt
[19:53] <lewion> amee2k, maybe ....
[19:54] <hblount> Bus 004 device 003: ID 0d8c:0008 c-media electronics, inc.
[19:54] <erUSUL> JohnWittle: becouse both are tightly integrated
[19:54] <Mr_Dust> leagris:  I tried to compile cubrid that is a DBMS. but I don't know it uses java or not.
[19:54] <FabParma> mdm: remember that i need to do it in the local client, not on a router
[19:54] <amee2k> mmm maybe?
[19:54] <losher> lewion: something like: tar tvf <tarfile> | egrep -i '\.sh\b' | wc -l
[19:55] <amee2k> oh, right. i forgot the wc at the end
[19:55] <mdm> FabParma: I would do it on the firewall
[19:55] <JohnWittle> erUSUL: After I have installed nautilus, how do I remove all of the packages that came with it?
[19:55] <amee2k> thanks losher :)
[19:55] <lewion> uhm :D
[19:55] <erUSUL> losher: why extract the tar ?
[19:55] <jontec> raylu: I'll be back... I just moved the drivers in the DRIVERS_US folder to the main folder to see if ndiswrapper needed more files that weren't available in that folder... I doubt it, but it's worth a try
[19:55] <Mr_Dust> leagris: my error message is http://paste.ubuntu.com/193671/
[19:55] <kerebrus> Hello, Is anyone here good with configuring conky?
[19:55] <amee2k> erUSUL: wouldn't that just list the contents?
[19:55] <amee2k> iirc extract is -x
[19:55] <hblount> mdm: Bus 004 device 003: ID 0d8c:0008 c-media electronics, inc.
[19:56] <TwoToneSpirit> BBS? Anybody have any experience setting one up in ubuntu?
[19:56] <losher> erUSUL: it doesn't actually do the extract. It just lists the contents, one file per line "t" does the list "x" would do an extract
[19:56] <bbeecher> jrib: ahhh, I misunderstood... well I should be good then, but something isn't working right. I'll see if I can figure out why this package (mysqldb) is installing right in 2.6 and not 2.5
[19:56] <erUSUL> amee2k: oops you are right...
[19:56] <lewion> explain please cuz it works :D
[19:56] <mdm> FabParma: are you sure that isn't a usb headset?
[19:56] <mdm> sorru hblount
[19:56] <JorgeJorgesson> Sorry, off topic, but how can I join another channel in XChat-Gnome.  I tried the Network-Channels thing and it does not allow me to connect.  I'm try to join #mysql
[19:56] <losher> lewion: are you asking me to explain how it works?
[19:56] <lewion> indeed
[19:56] <lewion> :D
[19:56] <jrib> bbeecher: it may depend on the package too.  Maybe it says it only works on 2.6.  Check the control file in the source package
[19:57] <jrib> !source > bbeecher
[19:57] <gleg> Hey guys, thanks for all the help.  My computer is not recognizing my sound card.  I upgraded Alsa, then ran 'alsaconf', which supposedly detected and configured my sound card, it ran with only one error: no alsa mixer.  When I run 'alsamixer', I get 'alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory'.  Any ideas on what I might do?
[19:57] <losher> !who | lewion
[19:57] <lewion> euh? :D
[19:57] <bbeecher> jrib: right - that could be the problem... alright, I'll look into that
[19:58] <hblount> mdm: sorry u cant help? or what
[19:58] <rich____> lewion: tar -tvf filename.tar.gz | grep .sh | wc -l
[19:58] <mdm> hblount: that looks to be a usb headset
[19:58] <lewion> losher, how does it work indeed
[19:58] <losher> lewion: put the name of the person you're talking to first on the line....
[19:58] <rich____> oh i see the other dude got it first :)
[19:58] <lewion> rich____, you probably could explain too? :p
[19:58] <lewion> indeed =)
[19:58] <rich____> yes indeed
[19:58] <losher> lewion: tar tvf <tarfile> outputs one line of text for each file in the archive. Try it...
[19:58] <amee2k> rich____: that would count this.is.not.a.shell.script too :)
[19:58] <rich____> the tar part before the pipe lists the files in the archive
[19:59] <rich____> try it on its own
[19:59] <JuJuBee> Anybody using wireless ATH9k with Jaunty successfully? I cannot see any wireless networks.
[19:59] <hblount> mdm: yeah thats what i saw when i searched for the problem. but i think it also applies to this device because in vista it says same thing and it works
[19:59] <rich____> the pipe passes each oline to grp, which matches against the pattern .sh
[19:59] <rich____> then wc -l counts the number of lines
[19:59] <lewion> losher, ok I see the output
[19:59] <mdm> hblount: I would assume this is some sort of analog to midi input, the device you gave me is a USB OUTPUT device, it is a headset
[20:00] <Kirsch> hey all, i am currently using Hardy Server 32bit, is it not a good idea to upgrade to the 64bit without reinstalling the OS? or can i just do dist-upgrade?
[20:00] <rich____> amee2k,  yes it would :)
[20:00] <Dethroned> I'm at the partition stage of installing Ubuntu.  The first option shows that Ubuntu will only have the recommended size for installation.  If I go with this will I be able to make it larger?
[20:00] <kazagistar> kristau: no, that is a bad idea from what I hear
[20:00] <losher> lewion: then 'grep --i '\.sh\b' filters out and pass through only those lines which have a dot followed by sh followed by 'end of word' i.e. all filenames ending in .sh
[20:00] <JuJuBee> Dethroned: you can resize partitions later on with gparted if you need to
[20:00] <Kirsch> kazagistar: was that for me?
[20:00] <rich____> i.e better than my attempt ;)
[20:01] <Dethroned> JuJuBee:  Is that easy to use?
[20:01] <lewion> losher, the end of word thingy that's the \b?
[20:01] <kazagistar> Kirsch: yes :P
[20:01] <JuJuBee> Yes, very
[20:01] <Dethroned> kk...Thanks man
[20:01] <JuJuBee> np
[20:01] <lewion> rich____, you guys all rock :D
[20:01] <losher> lewion: if you leave off the \b it will still work, but it will also allow .shoe .shine .shooby-dop as well as .sh
[20:01] <hblount> mdm: i see. i guess it thinks its an output device....is there a way to change to input? it is not midi, its just a mic essentially
[20:01] <jillsmitt> hi
[20:01] <Kirsch> kazagistar: so it is recommended to completey ditch my system drive and reinstall?
[20:01] <kazagistar> Kirsch: reinstall your system entirely if you switch architectures, yes
[20:01] <lewion> losher, aha i see so it gives you only the .sh bits
[20:01] <Kirsch> kazagistar: got it, thanks!
[20:02] <losher> lewion: so now you have a line for each file ending in .sh, and you just count the lines, with wc -l
[20:02] <lewion> losher, and ash rich has already pointed out the wc -l counts the lines and gives the nuber?
[20:02] <lewion> losher, :D
[20:02] <mdm> hblount: if its a mic input see if alsa sees it, its quite posible you only need to unmute it
[20:02] <lewion> losher, where did you learn all this :P
[20:03] <Kirsch> kazagistar: is there any reason why you wouldn't recommend to go to 64bit at this point? i know my hardware can handle it
[20:03] <losher> lewion: years of command line usage. the \b etc. are called 'regular expressions' & they crop up over & over again. There are books on them....
[20:03] <Kirsch> kazagistar: and obviously, i'm talking about Server 9.04
[20:03] <hblount> mdm: alsa sees it, and i've checked its not muted. it calls it "audio device"
[20:03] <lewion> losher, the \b is backspace in echo though right? :D
[20:03] <mdm> hblount: as a input, not an output?
[20:04] <rich____> i find regex particularly difficult to remember
[20:04] <losher> lewion: yeah. it looks the same, but with echo it's not a regular expression matching end of word, it's just a backspace. Confusing, isn't it?
[20:05] <hblount> mdm: it doesnt specifically say input or output, just "audio device"
[20:05] <lewion> losher, well to be honest it is :D
[20:05] <jaws> frostburn, I put /etc/exports ../host.allow & .deny in the pastebin. I configured everything using the Ubuntu Community Documentation. At this point I have not configured fstab or any auto mount options. Let me know when you get back on...
[20:05] <mdm> hblount: what does alsa reports its inputs and outputs as?
[20:05] <kerebrus> Hello can anyone help me with this error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/192964/plain/
[20:05] <rich____> alongside the different keyboard shortcuts, language semantic, you need a computer for a brain :o
[20:05] <lewion> losher, but as I have to know all this stuff by tommorow, I'm guessing I'm gonna ask you guys a lot of questions today :D
[20:06] <rich____> lewion - university?
[20:06] <lewion> rich____, jup
[20:06] <losher> lewion: egrep (and family) uses regular expressions. Almost anything where you are searching for a string supports some kind of regular expressions because they are so useful
[20:06] <lewion> losher, I used grep though any big difference?
[20:06] <frostburn> jaws, i just got back, but i wont have time to do much other troubleshooting, would you put that output into launchpad?
[20:06] <lewion> losher, because I'm bundeling it now in a shell that does all those things :P
[20:06] <hblount> mdm: well nothing specifically says input. but it lists line-in (mic jack), and microphone (built in mic on my laptop)
[20:07] <sodoku> hey, kann mir jemand erklaeren, warum der update-manager bei einigen paketen "Ermitteln der Distribution ist gescheitert." anzeigt?
[20:07] <TwoToneSpirit> Can anyone recommend BBS software?
[20:07] <rich____> losher: from memory e = extended?
[20:07] <Trijntje> !de
[20:07] <losher> lewion: egrep (extended grep) has extensions to do tricks that grep can't do. and fgrep (fixed grep) explicitly doesn't support regexps...
[20:07] <rich____> cool
[20:08] <jaws> frostburn, Okay, I'll do. I'll keep working on this but is seems like I have tried everything. I'm about to break out my old Solaris Network Admin Books.
[20:08] <mdm> hblount: I would think you have another sound card in that system make sure you are looking at the USB device and not whatever other card you have
[20:08] <lewion> losher, so I have to use egrep on this one?
[20:08] <ircnickiuse> what is the default setting for sources.list? mine only contains kernel.org and debian repos... and no multiverse
[20:08] <losher> lewion: most editors will have regexp support of some kind built in. So will most programming languages
[20:08] <jaws> frostburn, Ping between both machines is good.
[20:08] <mdm> and hblount if its unmuted, working simply play something on the guitar and see if it comes out the pc speakers
[20:09] <jontec> raylu: still no dice :(
[20:09] <losher> lewion: for the simple regexp we used, grep or egrep would have sufficed. It turns out that egrep is faster, so I almost always use egrep
[20:09] <rich____> losher: grep .sh$ would work also?
[20:09] <jaws> frostburn, rpcinfo -p for both machines looks good, I think.
[20:10] <sodoku> sorry, i was in the wrong channel
[20:10] <jontec> raylu: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/230047 lists the problem I was initially having
[20:10] <losher> rich____: yes. but don't forget to escape the period, and keep it all in quotes, so the shell doesn't expand them before grep sees them
[20:10] <rich____> lewion: i did this in unix system processing this year at university also :)
[20:10] <yowshi> ok something is wierd. both gkrellm and ghnome-system-monitor are reporting 50-60% load on my processor which shouldnt be because i have almost nothing running but i cant see whats using all that power in tops nor my system monitor
[20:11] <lewion> rich____, hehe :D Second year?
[20:11] <rich____> losher - just finished 2nd yes :)
[20:11] <lewion> losher, thanks for the already wonderfull advice :p
[20:11] <lewion> rich____, that was for me right?
[20:11] <yowshi> what i see in my monitor adds up to less then 30%
[20:11]  * losher says check out http://www.regular-expressions.info/tutorial.html for a quick tutorial
[20:11] <rich____> lewion - yes
[20:11] <emeraude> salut
[20:12] <rich____> two l's
[20:12] <rich____> ha
[20:12] <hblount> mdm: it shows a few different "devices" that i can control volume from. nothing gets a signal
[20:12] <lewion> rich____, I'm at the end of my 2nd year :) Have linux and OS/400 examinations tommorow
[20:12] <losher> rich____: just finished 2nd childhood :-)
[20:12] <mdm> yowshi: you are running gkrellm under X and with a display and window manager, are you SURE you are not running anything?
[20:12] <emeraude> #unbutu-fr
[20:12] <rich____> losher - makes you 36 or 42?
[20:12] <rich____> :)
[20:12] <lewion> losher, ? :D
[20:13] <lewion> rich____, why those 2? :P
[20:13] <losher> rich____: older, I'm afraid....
[20:13] <deany> im thinkin of setting up a hotmail/msn account to use alongside my yahoo account in pdgin, now does the inbuilt msn protocol work or do I have to install that other thing called "pecan"?
[20:13] <Trijntje> emeraude: /join #ubuntu-fr ;)
[20:13] <mdm> hblount: then you may have to setup a config for it in alsa, but if it sees it as an audio device you have everything to make it work
[20:13] <rich____> losher - childhood = 18 or 21???
[20:13] <yowshi> mdm: i said almost nothing. other then gkrellms and a few other programmes IE pidgin evolution and the system basics i have nothing running. i ahve an e6600 here that nshouldnt be taking up 50% of my processor
[20:13] <ircnickiuse> can someone pastebin the ubuntu 9.04 32bit default sources.list ?!?!?!? thanks
[20:13] <losher> rich____: oops. guess I'm on my 3rd. then....
[20:14] <yowshi> mdm: abnd nthat doesnt account for the fact that gnome-system-monitor doesnt show anything or cvombinmation of programmes eating up that processor power
[20:14] <rich____> losher - did you mean you are a grandparent?
[20:14] <resnet> can anyone direct me to instructions on getting my tablet pc working?
[20:14] <hblount> mdm: whats that involve?
[20:14] <lewion> losher, I'm honored that you're helping me then :)
[20:14] <VSpike> Whenever I try to upgrade from 8.04 -> 8.10 I only get 30kB/s from the repos, and after a while it fails altogether... I've tried the main and UK ones with the same result... is it me, or something I'm doing wrong?
[20:14] <kunago> Hi, could I ask somebody willing to help me, where should I place a .fw (firmware) file?
[20:14] <mdm> yowshi: use top and see what it reports.  Keep in mind top is VERY minimal.
[20:14] <losher> rich____: no, just meant I'm old...
[20:14] <rich____> lol fair enough
[20:14] <lewion> :p
[20:14] <mdm> hblount: using aplay and seeing what others have already setup for it
[20:14] <dajhorn> kunago: /lib/firmware
[20:14] <VSpike> yowshi: use htop instead
[20:15] <erUSUL> kunago: /lib/firmware/ or /lib/firmware/$(uname -r)
[20:15] <losher> lewion: This is a support channel. It exists for people to help each other. Isn't that the neatest thing?
[20:15] <cankoy> ircnickiuse: system > adminsitration > software sources, select as you like, no need to edit sources.list directly
[20:15] <kunago> dajhorn: erUSUL: Thanks a lot, will try that out.
[20:15] <lewion> losher, It is :D
[20:15] <yowshi> have to install htop one moment
[20:15] <dajhorn> kunago: Install the linux-firmware package if you don't already have it.
[20:16] <resnet> tablet pc?
[20:16] <kunago> dajhorn: Well I do but this one seems to be missing. It's a DVB-T device and in the log I found a note it is missing.
[20:16] <ircnickiuse> cankoy, I only have shell access to my desktop install
[20:17] <lewion> Brb people gonna take a 5 min study break :)
[20:17] <mmm4m5m> Hi. Upgrade to hardy, deleted all pidgin log files. Anyone notice something like that?
[20:17] <yowshi> mdm VSpike htop reports something similiar. the numbers show higher in htop but nowhere near the 50-70% grellm and gnome-system-monitor is reporting
[20:18] <yowshi> mdm VSpike hell even htop at the top of that there reports a 50-70% load but the numbers in cpu% dont add up to that
[20:18] <resnet> nobody knows anything about tablet pc functionality under kubuntu?
[20:18] <VSpike> yowshi: that usually means the time is kernel time
[20:18] <hblount> mdm: see what others have setup for it?
[20:18] <VSpike> yowshi: you can tweak the htop settings to show more details
[20:19] <yowshi> VSpike: what is kernel time and tweak to show more detail how?
[20:19] <mdm> yowshi: neither top not htop really can tell you what is going on, if you actualy want to see the cpu stats install sar
[20:19] <wisnut> can anyone help me troubleshoot mounting iPod nano under jaunty please?
[20:19] <rich____> resnet - i dont, but i will do some googling if you can repeat the question
[20:19] <mdm> and yowshi it is quite likly gkrellm is reporting bad numbers
[20:19] <cankoy> ircnickiuse: what's your 2 letter country code?
[20:19] <rich____> wisnut - check output of lsusb, if the ipod listed?
[20:20] <yowshi> mdm: whats a sar and where do i get one?
[20:20] <rich____> ^is
[20:20] <resnet> rich____ - i have a tablet pc but the touch screen part doesnt work with the pen. is there a driver i need? i googled and couldnt find much
[20:20] <rich____> resnet - whats the model number / info?
[20:20] <mdm> hblount: to use a sound card in linux requires setting up a config for it.  Luckly alsa already does this for most of teh cards.  But if you have a card with multiple dspsm differnt outputs, etc you may have to make alsa use these devices as well.  Its all done with a alsa,conf file
[20:20] <gleg> I have checked my ALSA configuration and I apprently have no modules loaded.  How do I load ALSA modules?  Thanks for whatever help.
[20:20] <ircnickiuse> cankoy, US
[20:20] <mdm> yowshi: look up atsar
[20:21] <wisnut> rich____: yes, it's listed under lsusb:  Bus 002 Device 002: ID 05ac:1262 Apple, Inc.
[20:21] <VSpike> yowshi: it means something like accessing a disk or a network adapter is using the CPU.  The CPU is being used by the kernel, not a program running.
[20:21] <Joker_-_> how to get wireless automagically connect without having to type a password (it asks for keyring or something when the computer boots)
[20:21] <rich____> wisnut - you can manually mount the device using the mount command
[20:21] <rich____> wisnut - first create a directory to mount it in
[20:21] <urko> wussies
[20:21] <rich____> wisnut mkdir /media/ipod
[20:21] <urko> usp pardon
[20:21] <VSpike> yowshi: htop ... F2 > Display options > Split system time ....
[20:21] <resnet> rich___ - gateway e155c
[20:21] <urko> sorry wrong channel
[20:22] <hblount> mdm: ok, but how do i see what others have setup for it? and im pretty ignorant about how to use linux command line stuff
[20:23] <Dreamglider> help me setup cpu freq scaling, running ubuntu 8.10 and a intel core2duo cpu
[20:23] <cankoy> ircnickiuse: http://paste.ubuntu.com/193684/
[20:23] <wisnut> rich____: getting there. . . . .
[20:23] <ircnickiuse> cankoy, beautiful, thanks
[20:23] <mdm> hblount: look arrund google for that deivce and its use in linux, try looking at aplay -l and see if its listed, if it is see if its setup, if it is simply record from its /dev/audio or /dev/dsp
[20:23] <helo> anyone know how to cause xscreensaver to span multiple monitors on a dual-head twinview setup, instead of running separate processes on each head?
[20:23] <bbeecher> jrib: I didnt have any luck using apt - after removing it and testing I had the module for 2.6 but not 2.5. I ended up building from source. Thanks for helping me, and I'll let you know if I ever figure out what was going on
[20:24] <rich____> wisnet - one sec ill make sure the instructions work
[20:24] <yowshi> VSpike: i assume you mean detailed CPU time
[20:24] <mdm> and hblount given that you have more then one sound card you will probbly have more then one /dev/dsp and in which case it will be listed as /dev/dsp1, /dev/dsp2 etc
[20:24] <VSpike> yowshi: yes it gives a bit more detail
[20:24] <rich____> wisnet - sudo mkdir /media/ipod
[20:25] <rich____> wisnet - lsusb
[20:25] <rich____> wisnet - make a note of the bus and device numbers for the ipod
[20:25] <wisnut> rich____: yes, yes, got it so far. . . .
[20:25] <yowshi> mdm: sar is of no real use to me since i cant figure out how to use it
[20:25] <rich____> wisnet - sudo mount /proc/bus/usb/bus/device /media/ipod
[20:26] <rich____> wisnet - replace bus and device with the numbers from lsusb
[20:26] <katoda> Hi, is it possible to record the audio that's coming out of my speakers?
[20:26] <rich____> wisnet - i.e sudo mount /proc/bus/usb/001/003 /media/ipod
[20:26] <Joker_-_> katoda: with a microphone?
[20:27] <scunizi> katoda: sure.. use audacity and change the input on it to the one that matches your sound card.
[20:27] <katoda> Joker_-_: huge quality loss?
[20:27] <Joker_-_> katoda: yup. otherwise you need a good soundblaster card and put your "record" at "what you ear"
[20:28] <Joker_-_> katoda: check what scunizi said, never tryed that tho
[20:28] <katoda> Joker_-_: installing audacity
[20:28] <yacc> What part of Ubuntu forces the userspace cpufreq governor?
[20:28] <rich____> resnet - there are vouches for this solution http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=870640
[20:28] <Dethroned> Compiz advanced tools is taking forever to download...is this normal?
[20:28] <mdm> yowshi: its not too difficult to learn but if you really want to know what that cpu is doing you need something like sar to report it.  And you need to understand how a cpu accesses its devices.  Things like top will give a brief look into what is going on currently (ignore the load averages up top there just about useless).  And you need to know more about that cpu and what its spending its time doing. It is totally posible to make a cpu 100% busy and not have
[20:28] <mdm>  it running any program at all
[20:28] <hblount> mdm: thx for trying to help
[20:28] <wisnut> rich____: mount: special device /proc/bus/usb/002/002 does not exist
[20:28] <yowshi> mdm: VSpike well i cant figure out what is cauing the load but it is interfering with my ability to use dosbox
[20:29] <rich____> wisnut - can you paste the line from lsusb ?
[20:29] <mdm> hblount: type aplay -l and paste that for me please
[20:29] <wisnut> rich____: Bus 002 Device 002: ID 05ac:1262 Apple, Inc.
[20:29] <errors-FoFo> server is up :)
[20:29] <pubuntu> hello
[20:30] <yowshi> mdm: well then it is useless to me anyway since i have no clue about my cpu and how it spoends it time nor do i know how to find out how it uses it's time or how it accesses it's devices
[20:30] <bostko_> hi guys i have problem with setting up wireless on my notebook
[20:30] <ford> hello all i am dealing with ati video cards. is there anyone willing to suffer through this with me?
[20:30] <Spike1506> Just tell us the problem
[20:30] <bostko_> 04:00.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR242x 802.11abg Wireless PCI Express Adapter (rev 01)
[20:30] <Spike1506> if someone knows the answer they will respond
[20:30] <bostko_> ifconfig -a doesn't show anything
[20:30] <Dreamglider> why does the freq scaling applet only have "preformace" before i had like 1GHz, 1,33GHz, 1,55GHz, 2GHz and the On-demand, power-save and preformance.
[20:30] <mdm> yowshi: then you will spend allot of time chasing ghosts and trying to figure out the problem.
[20:30] <Spike1506> bostko_, did you enable the hardware driver ?
[20:31] <rich____> wisnut - is the device listed in cmdline: df
[20:31] <hblount> mdm: card 1: default [C-Media USB Audio Device   ], device 0: USB Audio [USB Audio]
[20:31] <hblount>   Subdevices: 1/1
[20:31] <hblount>   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
[20:31] <kaw> wanting to run jaunty starting totally from pxe get vmlinuz, but not initrd, any one know where it is?
[20:31] <Dethroned> I installed gparted.  Where is is saved to?
[20:31] <bostko_> yes oit's enabled from the gnome driver manager
[20:31] <ford> My problem is A: installed drivers for ati HD radeon 4850 (i think) but i only have one of the 2 cars working. I would like to check to see what driver is controlling the card and make the second one work
[20:31] <yowshi> mdm: that wasnt entirely useful
[20:31] <yowshi> mdm: i already know my problems i need to know where to find the resources to help me fix them
[20:32] <wisnut> rich____: no, it just looks like normal stuff there. . .no "apple" or sda2, etc. . . .
[20:32] <mdm> yowshi:  you are asking what makes my cpu so busy.  It was not readaily apparent from a list of running processes.  So your CPU is doing something.  Learning that somethign is a matter of knowing performance tuning and how your system operates.  For all I know it could be servicing memory
[20:32] <Dethroned> I installed gparted.  Where is is saved to?
[20:32] <bostko_> is it possible to be turned off from the power buttons on the front panel
[20:32] <Spike1506> bostko_, didnt it work without that driver enabled?
[20:33] <bostko_> no it doesn't
[20:33] <rang501> Hello! I need help a bit. I installed stable kernel 2.6.30 to Jaunty. For some weird reason I'm not able to set brightness. Some messages:  ACPI: Failed to switch the brightness;  ACPI: EC: GPE storm detected, transactions will use polling mode
[20:33] <hblount> yowshi: maybe mdm can't solve all your problems, but he's being kind enough to try to help ppl here
[20:33] <bostko_> it worked before but now suddenly stoped working I don't know why
[20:33] <jim____> Anyone know how to send mail with attachments from bash?
[20:33] <jim____> `mail` can send mail but doesn't support attachments.
[20:34] <bostko_> give me an idea to check something LD
[20:34] <bostko_> :D
[20:34] <Spike1506> bostko_, i had the same issue. a few reboots did the trick (or boot into windows if its installed and check if it works there)
[20:34] <Dethroned> I installed gparted.  Where is is saved to?
[20:34] <bostko_> it works
[20:34] <bostko_> only on my installed ubuntu it doesn't
[20:34] <yowshi> hblount: i was trying to be polite when saying the comment wasnt helpful, it wasnt i appreciate the effort but what i really need as i said is to know where to go to find what i need to know
[20:34] <amidaniel> jim____: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/sending-mail-with-attachment.html
[20:34] <RockCity> Hi all how can I reinstall Network Manager on my pc when that pc cannot get online?  I accidently uninstalled network manager, and now I cannot reinstall it in order to get online.
[20:34] <bostko_> even when I launched it from my pen drive
[20:34] <bostko_> it workas
[20:34] <bostko_> works*
[20:34] <Spike1506> Dethroned, alt+f2 --> gksudo --> gparted
[20:35] <bostko_> but on the installed ubuntu it  doesn't something went wrong
[20:35] <jim____> amidaniel: thanks.  I should have found that myself
[20:35] <Spike1506> bostko_, disable the hardware driver and reboot?
[20:35] <bostko_> aham
[20:35] <amidaniel> jim____: No problem. Google is your friend :)
[20:35] <bostko_> I thought about that to
[20:35] <rich____> wisnut - does it show up in cmdline: sudo fdisk -l
[20:36] <Spike1506> bostko_, i had the same weird issues with my atheros card
[20:36] <mdm> hblount: what do you have setup as Capture for alsa?
[20:36] <bostko_> thank you I will reboot and write you again
[20:36] <hblount> yowshi: i understood it the first time u said it. i'm just saying you don need to criticize his statements. if it dont help, let it be. i just dont wanna see these helpful pl be discouraged
[20:37] <ircnickiuse> wtf, my keyboard is acting up on vnc - what could be the issue? I type and s is b, b is f, f is k.... what the hell?
[20:37] <naoko> is this the help irc?
[20:37] <yowshi> hblount: *nods* noted, i wasnt trying to be discouraging. i will think more on such statements before syaing them in the future
[20:37] <sebsebseb> naoko: yes
[20:37] <Pici> naoko: This is the official Ubuntu support channel
[20:37] <naoko> ok
[20:37] <kerebrus> Hello, having some slight graphic issues, I think : http://paste.ubuntu.com/193690/
[20:37] <codeamuk> whats the command to launch the gnome volume control applet?
[20:38] <RockCity> Hi all how can I reinstall Network Manager on my pc when that pc cannot get online? I accidently uninstalled network manager, and now I cannot reinstall it in order to get online.
[20:38] <hblount> yowshi: thanks for being mature about it. i'm sorry for being bitchy at you
[20:38] <naoko> i need help  when ever i in stall ubuntu it works for 2 min then frezzs after i log in this happens with all linux if tryed
[20:38] <wisnut> rich____: now I think we're getting to the heart of the problem. . . .it's showing sda (boot drive, etc), and sdb, which is normally my external drive, but don't have it plugged in right now, and it's showing up as VFAT, so I think that's the flippin ipod
[20:39] <Spike1506> naoko, i guess its a hardware problem then.
[20:39] <rang501>  Hello! I need help a bit. I installed stable kernel 2.6.30 to Jaunty. For some weird reason I'm not able to set brightness. Some messages:  ACPI: Failed to switch the brightness;  ACPI: EC: GPE storm detected, transactions will use polling mode
[20:39] <naoko> but what can it be the reqirements and forum says it should run with with my pc im an amd
[20:40] <Dethroned> I can't unmount my Windows partitions in GParted
[20:40] <guntbert> naoko: how does it work with the live CD?
[20:40] <yacc> What program on Ubuntu does fool around with cpufreq settings?
[20:40] <rich____> wisnut - look at the capacity of the partition - does it match the nano?
[20:40] <hblount> mdm: how do i know which is "setup" for capture? it lists under the capture section my regular sound card and the usb guitar cable. i've messed with everything on both of them and nothing happens
[20:40] <wisnut> rich____: i'm going to try to comment the line in fstab, and see if something different happens with this thing
[20:40] <naoko> it runs then after 5 min it frezzes with it runing of the disk
[20:40] <yacc> And how can that stupid part be told not to go to 800MHz while compiling stuff?
[20:40] <mdm> hblount: run alsamixer, and hit tab
[20:41] <codeamuk> whats the command to launch the gnome volume control applet? editing an xinitrc/Xsession and cant remember it.
[20:41] <wisnut> rich____: sure does!
[20:41] <rich____> wisnut - sudo mount /dev/ipod /media/ipod
[20:41] <rich____> wisnut - changing ipod for the value fdisk -l returns
[20:41] <yowshi> hblount: no worries mate :)
[20:41] <Daniel_online> I imported a few themes into emerald theme manager but how the he.. do I activate them (running 9.04)
[20:41] <gleg> How does one load alsa modules?
[20:42] <Travis-42> how can I overwrite a symbolic link with a new one?  I tried "ln -nsf newsrc linkname" but it doesn't seem to be working
[20:42] <guntbert> naoko: I understood that, only the idea was not of "to weak" hardware but of faulty hardware. So I wanted to know how it is, when you are running from the live CD
[20:42] <rich____> wisnut so sudo mount /dev/sdb/x /media/ipod
[20:42] <Daniel_online> Travis-42: unlink <name of softlink>
[20:42] <wisnut> rich____: worked!
[20:42] <naoko> ok
[20:42] <Travis-42> Daniel_online: Is there no way to overwrite it with ln?
[20:42] <rich____> wisnut - my appologies for the run arround
[20:42] <wisnut> rich____: thanks a million - have a great day!
[20:43] <rich____> wisnut - no worries, you too
[20:43] <Dethroned> GParted is unable to read my Windows Partition.  How do I fix this?
[20:43] <Daniel_online> Travis-42: Just unlink the working one first then create the new one
[20:43] <wisnut> rich____: no, it's my noobieness. . . .still trying to grasp fundamentals, you helped a ton, thanks.
[20:43] <naoko> well im just wondering cuz i run windows fin and i can run that mac thing they made for amd comps fine but not linux
[20:43] <sebsebseb> Dethroned: was Windows shut down properly? if not  Ubuntu can't just read it
[20:43] <hblount> mdm: i just noticed something. when i look at alsa mixer for the usb device, it has playback level and recording level as well as mute. when i unmute the recording one and close it and reopen it, its muted again
[20:43] <ford> any one know how to check what video driver is currently in use?
[20:43] <Daniel_online> emerald theme manager import anyone knows what to do :-)
[20:43] <Joeseph> Hi.  I'm trying to mount an ssh location with fstab with sshfs with this guide: http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/10/28/how-to-mount-a-remote-ssh-filesystem-using-sshfs/   However, I need to specify the non-default port.  Can I do this within the fstab, or do  I have to modify sshfs somehow?
[20:44] <VCoolio> Daniel_online: you need to make emerald your window decorator; easiest way is install fusion-icon, run that. An icon will appear in your notification area; right click and select emerald as window decorator.
[20:44] <Travis-42> ok thanks Daniel_online
[20:44] <Daniel_online> I imported a few themes into emerald theme manager but how the he.. do I activate them (running 9.04) how ppl how :D
[20:44] <yacc> Guys, please, what part of Ubuntu decides to slowdown my CPU?
[20:44] <rich____> ford - i think you can still look at xorg.conf
[20:44] <guntbert> !who | naoko
[20:44] <Daniel_online> VCoolio: thanks :D
[20:44] <Spike1506> !top | yacc
[20:44] <mdm> hblount: do you have snd_usb_audio in your modules.  I belive you do if it shows up in alsa
[20:44] <Spike1506> yac, check your task manager
[20:44] <Joeseph> yacc: You can run top in your terminal and it will show you a list of programs with CPU %
[20:44] <mdm> hblount: other then that it should simply be unmuting that input and recording from it
[20:44] <ford> just says configured device...
[20:45] <ford> thanks tho.. thats what i thot but...
[20:45] <Spike1506> yacc, -> system -> administration -> System Monitor, or like Joeseph said top
[20:45] <hblount> mdm: how do i know if i have snd_usb_audio in my modules?
[20:45] <rich____> ford no driver listed?
[20:45] <mdm> hblount: lsmod
[20:45] <rich____> ford - i.e cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep "Driver"
[20:46] <rich____> ford - mine says nvidia
[20:46] <yacc> Spike1506, top does not tell me really what is changing the cpufreq settings.
[20:46] <Spike1506> ah the cpufreq setting
[20:46] <yacc> Spike1506, I've already killed the power-manager, powernowd, ...
[20:46] <hblount> mdm: yeah its there
[20:47] <ford> rich should that be in the file itself or generated by terminal
[20:47] <Spike1506> yacc, then I dont have a clue sorry
[20:47] <rich____> cmdline: cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep "Driver"
[20:47] <yacc> Although I've got the bad feeling that it's because my CPU is overheating, which is a Jaunty "feature" :(
[20:47] <rich____> ford - cmdline: cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep "Driver"
[20:47] <yacc> I cannot run the current kernel in Jaunty at all, it manages to reset my box through overheating in less than 60secs :(
[20:47] <Spike1506> yacc, i had such a issue too, had to download a bios update to fix it
[20:47] <mdm> hblount: try muteing everytjhing then unmuting just that input
[20:48] <naoko> guntbert: if i show u my pc info can u see if u see somthing that linux dosent like incase others missed it
[20:48] <yacc> Spike1506, well, Intrepid worked flawless.
[20:48] <rich____> guntbert - are you here often?
[20:48] <yacc> Hardy did too.
[20:48] <urbands> would sudo rm -rf /home/username empty the home dir and be fresh at reboot?the
[20:48] <Call-Me-MM> i got an ubuntu internet server but i need it to connect to internet, any tips?
[20:48] <Spike1506> yacc, then i do suggest fill in a bug report
[20:48] <yacc> Spike1506, I did, nobody cares.
[20:48] <edbian> urbands: Yes it would why are you trying to delete a home dir though??
[20:48] <lewion> losher, could you give me a description of who vs users..
[20:49] <yacc> Spike1506, I even documented it via burnK7 how long different kernels survive.
[20:49] <lewion> losher, I need to tell in echo who the logged in users are :)
[20:49] <guntbert> naoko: I'm afraid not. as I said: its not a question of hardware thats not good enough but of hardware thats faulty (=defect) maybe..., how does the system work on the live CD?
[20:49] <urbands> for library use as locked down alternative
[20:49] <Call-Me-MM> anyway to get ubuntu server to give me a visual?
[20:49] <guntbert> !ot | rich____
[20:49] <rich____> lewion - use awk , take first column, pipe through unique
[20:49] <the_archit3ct> Hi every one, does one of you has a tutorial to explain how install a quassel core on an unix shell ? pm me, thanks.
[20:50] <lewion> rich____, come again? :D
[20:50] <edbian> urbands: Actually what you want is: sudo rm -r /home/username/*
[20:50] <rich____> guntbert - that was a support oriented q
[20:50] <urbands> cool thanks
[20:50] <guntbert> rich____: pm me, if you want
[20:50] <kazagistar> Call-Me-MM: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop"
[20:50] <phoenixz> Is there a way to automatically FORCE yes on the ssh host key verification question? So an ssh user@host for the first time will not require me to answer the "yes" question?
[20:50] <NetLarIrvine> I could not find anything, but does anyone know if Ubuntu has drivers for LableFlash?
[20:50] <Spike1506> yacc, if you are sure its a kernel bug you can always try to compile a newer kernel
[20:51] <Call-Me-MM> kazagistar do i need internet connection?
[20:51] <rich____> guntbert - i dont know how, i come on here once or twice a month for a day - i would like your advice on how to provide support *better
[20:51] <yacc> Spike1506, well, it can also be a change in configuration whatever, ...
[20:51] <NetLarIrvine> I have seen some for Light Scribe, but not Label Flash
[20:51] <kazagistar> Call-Me-MM: yes, the server does not come with a desktop environment, I belive
[20:52] <bwild> hello all, where can i find mono-2.5.deb for Intrepid
[20:52] <guntbert> rich____: check your pm please
[20:52] <rich____> lewion - use awk to select the first column from the who output, put that through uniq and you get the unique users on the system
[20:52] <naoko> guntbert:well it wroks better then installed it frezes evry 5-10 min and some thims it can stay up for 20 min but installed like 2 min iv got a sata hdd if that matters
[20:52] <Spike1506> yacc, what cpu do you have?
[20:52] <guntbert> naoko: sorry, I have no idea :-(
[20:53] <Ampelbein> phoenixz: why do you want to do that? it defies all security to just ignore the host-key identification.
[20:53] <lewion> rich____, but if I use the "users" command will that not do the same thing?
[20:53] <Pici> phoenixz: ssh -o StrictHostKeyChecking no user@host  will do it if you feel the need.
[20:53] <edbian> naoko: What does dmesg say?
[20:53] <yacc> Spike1506, model name	: AMD Turion(tm) 64 X2 Mobile Technology TL-64
[20:53] <yacc> Spike1506, how do I make launchpad list all bugs that I filed?
[20:53] <hblount> mdm: i muted evertying and unmuted device for recording, and it still goes back to mute when i close and open again
[20:53] <rich____> users lists the current users laterally
[20:53] <onyx> what and where is "Software Channel"
[20:53] <Pici> phoenixz: You may need single quotes around the 'no' though.
[20:53] <cporter> How do I check the space available on a samba server?
[20:53] <rich____> lewion users lists the current users laterally
[20:53] <rich____> lewion I get two instaces of rich
[20:53] <phoenixz> Ampelbein: Pici: Thing is, its on a trusted network and I know the servers are safe already.. its needed to automate somethign
[20:54] <Pici> phoenixz: I figured, I had to do the same thing for an automation task here.
[20:54] <lewion> rich____, so It's not the same thing... hmm we didn't see awk though nor did we see unique :/
[20:54] <Spike1506> yacc, i havent used launchpad that much so I wont know
[20:54] <Call-Me-MM> kazagistar, then i cannot get it, on the desktop there is an icon on the top with two computers and an x in front. when you right or left click it, it will give me a chance to make ubunt automaticly find an internet connection. Is there anyway i can "hook" that one up without having a desktop wiev? please enyone?
[20:54] <phoenixz> Pici: thanks, I'll try!
[20:54] <the_archit3ct> Hi every one, does one of you has a tutorial to explain how install a quassel core on an unix shell ? pm me, thanks.
[20:54] <naoko> edbian, sorry not shere what u mean buy that if u mean a error messege this is not it just frezzes in 2 min win instaled and freses 5-10 min win boot by disk
[20:55] <rich____> lewion who | awk '{print $1}' | uniq
[20:55] <rich____> lewion - just shows rich
[20:56] <edbian> naoko: Before it freezes run "dmesg" in a terminal and look at the end.  Are there any error messages there?  How frozen does the system get?  Totally unresponsive in every way?  Have you tried ctrl + alt + backspace when it is frozen??
[20:56] <layer> hola.  looking for someone who understands the intricacies of linux permissions to help me out
[20:56] <kazagistar> Call-Me-MM: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/ubuntu-networking-configuration-using-command-line.html <- try that, it might help
[20:56] <yacc> Spike1506, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/378065
[20:56] <edbian> layer: I understand permissions pretty well.  Maybe I can help?  What is the problem?
[20:57] <lewion> rich____, users | awk '{print $1}' | uniq just shows lewion ;)
[20:57] <kazagistar> !anyone | layer
[20:57] <rich____> lewion - i believe thats the desired result
[20:57] <lewion> rich____, so that still doesn't solve my question what the difference is :D
[20:57] <mdm> hblount: type arecord -L and see if there is an alsa definition for it
[20:57] <lewion> rich____, between who and users :D
[20:57] <yacc> Spike1506, over 3 weeks and nobody got interested ;)
[20:57] <naoko> edbian,ok ill run off boot disk ant try and for what it does is after the 5-10 min i hear a loud beeern sond then move my mose and it totaly frosen
[20:57] <rich____> lewion - to check, i would create a new user, use ctrl alt f1 to open tty1, log in with the other user, and run the cmd again
[20:57] <lewion> haha :D
[20:58] <lewion> ok then :p
[20:58] <Ricochet> Hey guys, I have an ASUS Eee top that I just got and was trying to put ubuntu on it and ran into some resolution issues and the touchscreen doesnt work, I found a fix online however I am way too much of a noob to know how to do what its asking me to do, here is the google translated page for the instructions  http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=it&u=http://www.eeepc.it/guida-installare-ubuntu-su-asus-eee-top-1602/&ei=XgkoSty
[20:58] <layer> thanks... if i have a user who is a member of more than 1 LDAP group, she creates directories according to the umask, and her primary group is the group listed in linux permissions.  I'd like to replicate the NTFS "inherit permissions from parent folder" if possible.
[20:58] <edbian> naoko: Are you fans all spinning up??  Particularly the CPU fan?
[20:58] <Spike1506> yacc, i do have a HP laptop too and it gets very hot. i had to download a bios update to lower the heat but still its pretty hot.
[20:58] <rich____> lewion - the cmd awk '{print $1}' prints the first 'column of output from the previous command
[20:58] <hblount> mdm: its listed here. dont know if that means theres a definition for it
[20:59] <rich____> lewion - uniq only counts unique results
[20:59] <Dethroned> GParted won't let me resize my windows partition
[20:59] <super_hoops> how can i get youtube working on my xubuntu?
[20:59] <yacc> Spike1506, where did you find the BIOS update?
[20:59] <Spike1506> yacc, at the hp website?
[20:59] <yacc> And can I even apply it without the other OS?
[20:59] <rich____> Dethroned - dont try to manipulate ntfs partitions from linux
[20:59] <edbian> layer: Are these folders created on the fly?   Supposed i gave you a command that changed the permissions of all the folders at once.  Would that work?
[20:59] <phrankdachicken> Dethroned: Run disk defrag in windows first
[20:59] <rich____> Dethroned, ntfs is proprietry technology
[21:00] <rich____> Dethroned,  use microsoft tools for that job
[21:00] <naoko> edbian,no it all seems fine  nothing changes fans the same speed its just a lod nosie then frez when move mouse
[21:00] <edbian> layer: I am not sure about ldap but I know in linux when you create a folder it is owned by you and the group owner is your group (group with your username)
[21:00] <Dethroned> rich___: then how do I resize the hd?
[21:00] <kazagistar> Dethroned: boot into windows, and make sure it is shut down correctly
[21:00] <lewion> rich____, users only give me lewion
[21:00] <lewion> rich____, while who gives me both
[21:00] <Dethroned> kazagistar: I just did that
[21:00] <Spike1506> yacc, what is your laptop type?
[21:00] <lewion> rich____, thanks man ;)
[21:00] <CarlFK> how do I disable X from loading? (from a command prompt, because X is currently broke, and fixing it just so I can click the option to disable it will make me grumpy)
[21:00] <yacc> Spike1506, tx2050eg => TabletPC.
[21:01] <rich____> lewion - slightly confused - are you saying your problem is fixed?
[21:01] <Pici> Dethroned: Install the ntfsprogs package to resize ntfs partitions with gparted.
[21:01] <edbian> naoko: What about dmesg?  So the system won't freeze until it has been both 5-10 minutes AND the mouse has been moved?
[21:01] <Ricochet> Hey guys, I have an ASUS Eee top that I just got and was trying to put ubuntu on it and ran into some resolution issues and the touchscreen doesnt work, I found a fix online however I am way too much of a noob to know how to do what its asking me to do, here is the google translated page for the instructions  http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=it&u=http://www.eeepc.it/guida-installare-ubuntu-su-asus-eee-top-1602/&ei=XgkoSty
[21:01] <layer> edbian: sort of.... the parent folder is changeable only by members of the Layer group (LDAP).  when a user creates a file or folder, it uses the Umask, but the group listed is "Domain Users".  I can change it manually, but I'd really like the directory tree to maintain the group all the way through
[21:01] <mdm> hblount: do you have audacity installed?
[21:01] <rich____> ok guys brb 10mins
[21:02] <naoko> edbian,yes ill have to try that thing ur saying but ill have to restart my pc
[21:02] <scarface> I removed the Evolution envelope icon from my panel but now I want it back.  Can anybody help?  (Jaunty)
[21:02] <edbian> layer: I'm sorry I really don't have the experience with LDAP to know how to help :(  Sorry!
[21:02] <super_hoops> why does youtube not work in xubuntu??
[21:02] <Ricochet> i could really use your help on this one, I dont understand some of the things its asking me to do
[21:02] <edbian> naoko: Are you running ubuntu on the problem PC right now??
[21:02] <Spike1506> yacc, only for windows yup :(
[21:02] <phrankdachicken> scarface: drag it from the gnome menu and drop it in place
[21:02] <Dethroned> pici: Where can I find that?
[21:02] <Ricochet> super_hoops it should work, download the newest flashplayer from adobe
[21:02] <edbian> scarface: I can help you
[21:02] <Pici> Dethroned: It is in the repositories.  Or, from a terminal: sudo apt-get install ntfsprogs
[21:03] <Call-Me-MM> i am in a text editing program on the commend-line, what do i press to change the text?
[21:03] <Dragon-Reborn> hi everybody
[21:03] <hblount> mdm: no. was gonna get it though
[21:03] <super_hoops> i've got that installed ricochet. its just not loading the videos :( doing my nut in
[21:03] <yacc> Spike1506, so it's not even an option ;)
[21:03] <scarface> phrankdachicken, I didn't mean the launcher.  I mean the icon that Evolution displays while its running.
[21:03] <layer> edbian: thanks.  i don't really think it's an LDAP issues...more like linux/UNIX was designed  with simple permissions and a 1:1 user to group arrangement.  I like NTFS permissions alot better
[21:03] <Spike1506> yacc, nope
[21:03] <Ricochet> super_hoops: What version of xubuntu are you running?
[21:03] <edbian> scarface: Simply go to Applications -> Internet -> Evolution and drag that launcher from the menu to the panel (or desktop)
[21:03] <naoko> edbian,no i formated it off cuz i had the problem i can run windows fine and that mac os they mad for amd but when it comes to linux
[21:03] <Dethroned> Pici: All I can find is the NTFS configuration tool
[21:03] <Call-Me-MM> i am in a text editing program on the commend-line, what do i press to change the text?
[21:03] <Dragon-Reborn> Can anybody help me setup my USB modem on 9.04?
[21:03] <Pici> Dethroned: How are you trying to install it?
[21:04] <DjAngo23> Hey everyone, i have a problem with my .htaccess, which won't work on my ubuntu. Anyone any idea ?
[21:04] <Dethroned> Pici:  Applications...add/remove...search ntfs
[21:04] <mdm> hblount: I belive its ready to be used, install audactiy, go into its settings and chose the USB device for input then try to record something
[21:04] <edbian> naoko: Well get dmesg and let us / me know!
[21:04] <phrankdachicken> scarface: In the Notification area?
[21:04] <R4kk00n> layer, there are posix acl. they are similar to windows'
[21:04] <scarface> phrankdachicken, Right.
[21:04] <Spike1506> yacc, maybe you can post your problem on the ubuntu forms?
[21:04] <Pici> Dethroned: That will not work as not all packages are listed there, especially command like and other system packages.
[21:04] <super_hoops> how do i find that out rico?
[21:04] <yacc> Spike1506, OTOH, there are WinXP live cds when I remember right.
[21:04] <edbian> layer: Do some research on google about ldap / user permissions on linux.  They are not simple :)
[21:05] <edbian> layer: Sorry I couldn't help more! :(
[21:05] <Ricochet> hey guys I really need help with my ASUS eee top, I need to edit the xorg.conf file and I dont know how to do it, actually I just need someone to help me go through this guide to get this working
[21:05] <yacc> Spike1506, I did already post a bug report, inclusive the scripts that I used to come to my conclusions, ...
[21:05] <Ricochet> is anyone willing to help me out?
[21:05] <super_hoops> ahh found it. i'm using xubuntu 9.04
[21:05] <yacc> Anyway, is there a PPA for newer kernels, ...
[21:05] <layer> R4kk00n: oh really?  can you give me an idea of a googleable package?
[21:05] <naoko> edbian, ok and just to make shere do i just type dmesg or do i add somthing in front of it
[21:05] <layer> edbian:  no problem, thanks for listening
[21:05] <Whitor> Hi, Does anyone know how to show all active TCP sessions in a terminal?  ... equivilent of netstat in windows ...
[21:05] <Dethroned> Pici:  Well I just installed Ubuntu today and I'm new to linux
[21:05] <Whitor> ?
[21:05] <Spike1506> Whitor, netstat? :P
[21:05] <Ricochet> super_hoops: I am runnning xubuntu 9.04 beta on my dell mini and it runs youtube videos just fine
[21:05] <Whitor> sessions = connections .
[21:05] <cypha> can someone tell me how to add a gadget not in the list of google gadgets?
[21:06] <layer> Pici: welcome to your new addiction
[21:06] <cypha> i want to add a yahoo mail gadget
[21:06] <Pici> Dethroned: Thats fine, we were all new once :)
[21:06] <Whitor> Spike1506, tried that ... didn't give what I expected
[21:06] <cypha> i found the gadget online
[21:06] <edbian> naoko: just "dmesg"
[21:06] <VCoolio> scarface: in evolution edit > preferences > mail preferences at the bottom do you have notification options checked?
[21:06] <Pici> layer: me? I've been here for quite a while...
[21:06] <super_hoops> weird...have u installed anything else apart from flash?
[21:06] <hblount> mdm: k i'll try it out. i'm actually downloading a bunch of apps including audacity right now. gonna take a while
[21:06] <layer> err...dethroned: welcome to your new addiction :)
[21:06] <Whitor> Spike1506, nm ... must be a comand line opt ...
[21:07] <Ricochet> super_hoops nope, it worked right off the bat
[21:07] <Whitor> netstat -a is what I was looking for
[21:07] <Spike1506> yacc, then i dont have any other options left im sorry :(
[21:07] <kolin> hello
[21:07] <hblount> mdm: a thousand thanks
[21:07] <super_hoops> ahh pants :(.  what browser are u using? i've just done all my updates too so thats up to date
[21:07] <R4kk00n> layer, eiciel is an editor for acl and extended attributes. didn't try them myself, actually
[21:07] <yacc> Spike1506, no BIOS update for me.
[21:07] <kolin> where is poland serwer???
[21:07] <phrankdachicken> scarface: Might try installing mail-notification-evolution
[21:07] <mdm> hblount: according to what I was reading in order for alsa to keep it open to record and loop back to the speakers requires you setup a conf file with the device.  However if all you want to do is use it to record audacity will do that fine.
[21:07] <layer> r4k00n.  cool thanks.  just a starting point is all i needed.
[21:07] <losher> !pl | kolin
[21:08] <mdm> hblount: your quite welcome I dont know if I helped much other then to delay you tho
[21:08] <Ricochet> Hey guys can anyone help me with with a guide to get the resolution working and touch screen working on my ASUS eee top, I am too noob to figure it out. I just need a little help
[21:08] <scarface> VCoolio, yes, all 3 options are checked.  What used to happen was the Evolution would have an icon in the notification area at all times.  Then when a new mail arrived, the icon would change to indicate a new message.  But now that I've removed the icon from the panel, no indication comes to the panel when I have a new mail.
[21:08] <karol> guys all my ubuntu sounds work fine exept Kadu any ideas?
[21:08] <hblount> mdm: i learned alot. i bow down to your linux wisdom
[21:08] <edbian> hblount: hahahahaha
[21:08] <VCoolio> scarface: you still have notification area on panel?
[21:08] <Dragon-Reborn> anyone know how I can install a 3.5g usb modem on ubuntu 9.04?
[21:09] <darkham> hey people, someone of you use a torrent client who power down the system after the end of a selected torrent or the last?
[21:09] <VCoolio> scarface: sorry, indicator applet I mean
[21:09] <Spike1506> Dragon-Reborn, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/3GNetworkingIntrepid
[21:09] <boolean> hello: would one know where the config files are kept that are responsible to determine which X windows manager your X session will use? ( think $HOME/.xinitrc )
[21:09] <Dragon-Reborn> cool thanks
[21:09] <Spike1506> ohw nvm
[21:09] <super_hoops> the youtube window opens but it just won't load the videos
[21:09] <scarface> VCoolio, what do you mean by "indicator applet"?  Do you mean one specific to Evolution?
[21:09] <Spike1506> that wont be helpfull
[21:10] <Spike1506> Dragon-Reborn, that likn wont help sorry.
[21:10] <mdm> hblount: no need to, its just experience.
[21:10] <VCoolio> scarface: have Evolution running and then right click panel and add indicator applet to check; I wouldn't know how you would disable just one icon from it; if I right click it I can only delete complete applet
[21:10] <Ricochet> Hey guys, I have an ASUS Eee top that I just got and was trying to put ubuntu on it and ran into some resolution issues and the touchscreen doesnt work, I found a fix online however I am way too much of a noob to know how to do what its asking me to do, here is the google translated page for the instructions  http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=it&u=http://www.eeepc.it/guida-installare-ubuntu-su-asus-eee-top-1602/&ei=XgkoSty
[21:10] <balzac> Dragon-Reborn - heh heh
[21:10] <hblount> mdm: humility of a true master
[21:10]  * boolean would like a sngle app to start up after login with non of the typical desktop extras
[21:10] <balzac> Rand Althorne?
[21:11] <Call-Me-MM> how do one save a text in xubuntu text edit program?
[21:11] <npope> file save
[21:11] <mkiefer> @Ricochet: what type eee?
[21:11] <npope> Call-Me-MM: what program
[21:11] <Spike1506> Call-Me-MM, ctrl+s or file save
[21:11] <Dragon-Reborn> yep
[21:11] <Ricochet> mkiefer: Eee Top
[21:11] <Dragon-Reborn> Rand Al Thor
[21:11] <Ricochet> mkiefer its the all in one touch screen
[21:12] <layer> no WOT spoilers...just started reading it
[21:12] <Kirsch>  /exit
[21:12] <Kirsch> lol whoops
[21:12] <Dragon-Reborn> so Spike1506 WHAT WILL HELP?
[21:12] <kazagistar> moraine dies
[21:12] <Dragon-Reborn> OOPS sorry did not mean to shout
[21:12] <scarface> VCoolio, that was it!  I had right-clicked panel and tried to add it again after I removed it, but I couldn't find it in the list.  I was looking for something including "Evolution" or "Mail".  Indicator Applet didn't jump out at me.  Thx for the help.
[21:12] <Ricochet> mkiefer can you help me out?
[21:12] <layer> kazagistar:  b*stard!
[21:12] <mkiefer> @Ricochet: sry then I'm not an expert.
[21:13] <VCoolio> scarface: np, good it works again!
[21:13] <kazagistar> layer: I could just be lying
[21:13] <DasEi> Ricochet:you want an asissted walkthrough ?
[21:13] <Spike1506> Dragon-Reborn, te be honest i have no clue :(
[21:14] <Dragon-Reborn> aww...is ok, nothing is every easy
[21:14] <hblount> mdm: thanks again. ppl like you renew my black, withered, miroscopically sized hope in humanity. probly be back soon with more problems. take care
[21:14] <Ricochet> DasEi: Yes please, I just dont know enough about it
[21:14] <hblount> microscopically
[21:14] <boolean> question: does $HOME/.xinitrc work in Gnome?
[21:15] <mdm> hblount: take care
[21:15] <scarface> VCoolio, Now -- do you know if there is any way to get that icon to only display when there is a new message, but not display at all at other times?  Right now, having a blank envelope which changes to an envelope with a star just doesn't stand out to me very well.  I'd rather have no icon at all, and then display an envelope when a message arrives.
[21:15] <Ricochet> DasEi: Its asking me to edit xorg.conf, but I dont know how to do that
[21:15] <DasEi> Ricochet:whats the status of the installation now, the ee has ubuntu up ?
[21:15] <Ricochet> DasEi: its installed, and even the wireless works.. its just the touch screen doesnt and the resolution is all messed up
[21:16] <Ricochet> here is the link i have been using  http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=it&u=http://www.eeepc.it/guida-installare-ubuntu-su-asus-eee-top-1602/&ei=XgkoStygCs6ntgequ9C1Bg&sa=X&oi=translate&resnum=1&ct=result&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dhttp://www.eeepc.it/guida-installare-ubuntu-su-asus-eee-top-1602/%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dcom.ubuntu:en-US:unofficial%26hs%3Do6b
[21:16] <DasEi> Ricochet:k, open a terminal (Alt&F2  >> gnome-terminal)
[21:17] <Ricochet> ok!
[21:17] <Ricochet> done.
[21:17] <rich____> back
[21:17] <texasjack> Ricochet, already try 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'? BUT make a *backup* of /etc/X11/xorg.conf BEFORE!!
[21:17] <VCoolio> scarface: I don't know about this particular icon; you can use cgmail for that, works for gmail and imap and pop; you can use it with multiple accounts together
[21:17] <Bragex9> does anyone speak german here?
[21:17] <DasEi> Ricochet:gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[21:17] <sebsebseb> !de |  Bragex9
[21:17] <rich____> Ricochet, cmdline: xrandr
[21:18] <losher> boolean: yes, it runs before the server starts. You can start gnome from it by putting 'exec gnome-session' as the last line in the file
[21:18] <rich____> Ricochet, gives a list of available video modes
[21:18] <scarface> VCoolio, ok thanks, I will do some investigating.  Cheers
[21:18] <VCoolio> scarface: http://cgmail.tuxfamily.org/
[21:18] <Bragex9> I only ned help with what "lieferbar" means...
[21:19] <rich____> Bragex9, no but that sounds like health, or life bar?
[21:19] <DasEi> Ricochet:insert intothat file : http://paste.ubuntu.com/193708/
[21:19] <VCoolio> scarface: it works without evolution running, that's nice
[21:19] <T0aster> Welcome monsieurledan! You have achieved a new peak of 1563 users for #ubuntu!
[21:20] <DasEi> Ricochet:could you follow so far ?
[21:20] <teemu> Hi. Does someone happen to know how to share internet for Windows Mobile via usb?
[21:20] <teemu> I have WM as eth1 here..
[21:20] <T0aster> hey guys is there anyone her who wants to help me setup rtorrent?
[21:20] <Ricochet> DasEi: yes! thank you.. I am emailing the paste to myself so i can open it in my other computer
[21:20] <Spike1506> T0aster, define setup
[21:20] <rich____> Bragex9 bablefish translates it as available
[21:21] <DasEi> Ricochet:save the file, close gedit
[21:21] <Ricochet> DasEi: Ok, done.. now what?
[21:21] <T0aster> well I am having trouble with my rtorrent.rc file
[21:21] <axisys> !oracle
[21:21] <Ricochet> DasEi: Wait.. it says its not found
[21:21] <Spike1506> T0aster, there are example configs on the internet. and if you have a problem with a config you have you should pastebin it
[21:21] <Spike1506> !pastebin | T0aster
[21:21] <T0aster> I know pastebin
[21:21] <DasEi> Ricochet:what says not found ??
[21:21] <T0aster> heres my question
[21:22] <Ricochet> DasEi: Could not find the file /etc/x11/xorg.conf.
[21:22] <T0aster> I edited it to my desired settings
[21:22] <DasEi> Ricochet:case-sensitive not x but X
[21:22] <T0aster> but where exactly should I place it
[21:23] <Ricochet> DasEi: Ohhh
[21:23] <Dragon-Reborn> anybody know what wvdial is?
[21:23] <T0aster> i put it in my home dir
[21:23] <T0aster> and it isnt being seen
[21:23] <kerebrus> Dragon-Reborn: Its a modem dialer
[21:23] <Spike1506> T0aster, in your home dir as: .rtorrent.rc
[21:23] <DasEi> Ricochet: inserted and saved ?
[21:23] <Spike1506> the . makes it hidden
[21:23] <T0aster> yep
[21:23] <Dragon-Reborn> how do I uses it?
[21:23] <greg> hi can someone help - i have jaunty installed and my hard disk is constantly clicking - checked the swap file and it's not being used. 700mb of 2gig ram used so kinda stumped.  anyone able to help?
[21:23] <T0aster> oh
[21:23] <T0aster> so hide it
[21:23] <T0aster> it is hidden yh
[21:23] <Ricochet> DasEi: Yes, saved and exited
[21:23] <Spike1506> press ctrl+h in nautilus and you can see the hidden files
[21:24] <kerebrus> Dragon-Reborn: Via terminal
[21:24] <T0aster> yh
[21:24] <Spike1506> T0aster, yes
[21:24] <T0aster> I know all that
[21:24] <T0aster> lemme pm you plz?
[21:24] <Dragon-Reborn> do I need it to get my 3g usb dongle working?
[21:24] <Spike1506> T0aster, then what is the problem? :)
[21:24] <Dethroned> kk I'm defragging Windows.  Will this allow me to resize the Windows partition with gparted?
[21:24] <DasEi> Ricochet: your using 32 bit ?
[21:24] <T0aster> can I pm?
[21:24] <sebsebseb> Dethroned: which version of Windows?
[21:24] <texasjack> greg, are you using ext4 at any filesystem?
[21:24] <Ricochet> DasEi: I have no idea, im sorry.. im a bit of a noob
[21:24] <Dethroned> sebsebseb: Vista 64bit
[21:24] <greg> ext3 texasjack
[21:24] <guntbert> !pm | T0aster
[21:24] <R4kk00n> Dethroned, if you're lucky enough
[21:25] <sebsebseb> Dethroned:  really you need to let Vista resize itself
[21:25] <Dethroned> sebsebseb:  How the heck do I do that?
[21:25] <sebsebseb> Dethroned: ,because it has a later version of NTFS than XP, and so dataloss might happen if gparted does it
[21:25] <texasjack> greg, hummm... I kinda feels the same... But I'm using ext4.  Just curious.
[21:25] <DasEi> Ricochet: sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[21:25] <sebsebseb> Dethroned: right click computer  in the menu, and go to disk management or something
[21:25] <Dragon-Reborn> lsusb does not show my usb modem, what now?
[21:25] <Dethroned> sebsebseb: i just got this computer today.  I barely have anything on Vista and i have made my recovery disks
[21:26] <sebsebseb> Dethroned: I see
[21:26] <DasEi> Ricochet: uname -a  | pastebinit                 ,give resulting url here
[21:26] <sebsebseb> Dethroned: well still best to let Vista resize it
[21:26] <layer> dethroned:  then now is time to abandon Vista altogether, and stick with ubunutu :)
[21:26] <mrwes> Dethroned, there are good sites with the exact instructions on resizing Vista partitions
[21:26] <T0aster> Welcome MacGyverNL! You have achieved a new peak of 1556 users for #Ubuntu!
[21:26] <sebsebseb> Dethroned: well or do what layer said
[21:26] <kerebrus> Dragon-Reborn: What version of ubuntu are you using?
[21:26] <richj> layer - a few of my friends are defaulting to windows 7 and ubuntu
[21:26] <Spike1506> T0aster, No PM please.
[21:26] <greg> i updated the x drivers (using eeebox b202) - not sure if that's maybe done something? can't remember it ever clicking as much as this
[21:26] <kazagistar> sebsebseb: did they add resizing in vista?
[21:26] <Dethroned> sebsebseb:  I want to play some games and not all of them are supported by WINE
[21:26] <richj> layer - seems to be the trend
[21:26] <naoko> edbian. nop i got to the termanal and it froz i tryed it 2 time exept this time there was no noise but the fast speed up then froz and fans went back to normal
[21:26] <sebsebseb> kazagistar: yes it can resize itself, when it's running
[21:27] <Spike1506> T0aster, tell those stuff in the main channel ty
[21:27] <greg> using the machine as a mythtvfrontend - no data is even being read from the disk all over the network.  even clicks when idle
[21:27] <sebsebseb> Dethroned: games the usual story,  are they all 3D?
[21:27] <mrwes> Dethroned, http://apcmag.com/how_to_dualboot_vista_with_linux_vista_installed_first.htm
[21:27] <Ricochet> DasEi: http://pastebin.com/f113abbc7
[21:27] <sebsebseb> Dethroned: also Linux has some pretty good  native games, you just got to know about them :d
[21:27] <layer> dethroned: i understand.  but just you wait.  the longer you live  in the OSS world, the more you'll hate Microsoft
[21:27] <DasEi> Ricochet: pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list                      ,url ...
[21:27] <kazagistar> richj: windows 7 for gaming, Ubuntu for everything else
[21:27] <guntbert> !ot | layer, please
[21:28] <lewion> losher, Now the course is giving me all these if while until etc shell stuf :D It's really getting difficult :o
[21:28] <richj> kazagistar, yes almost, windows 7 media player is also very good
[21:28] <DasEi> Ricochet: download : http://ubuntu.erasme.org/pool/intrepid/main/libdrm2/libdrm2_2.4.4-1build1_i386.deb
[21:28] <losher> lewion: these are basic to all languages. Stick with it...
[21:28] <richj> kazagistar, I am an ubuntu advocate, but i loved the media player
[21:28] <Dethroned> layer:  Well I'm not ready to give up Windows yet...even though I want to
[21:28] <lewion> losher, I know :D
[21:28] <Ricochet> DasEi: http://pastebin.com/f1d18dcdc
[21:29] <lewion> losher, Problem is I have to study OS/400 to and it's almost bed time ^^
[21:29] <richj> lewion are you talking bash scripts?
[21:29] <lewion> richj, indeed I am :P
[21:29] <roberto_> oi29
[21:29] <roberto_> jhjh
[21:29] <richj> lewion - i understand, I can write flutenly in a fair few languages, but bash syntax took me a while to get round
[21:29] <IRC-Monitor-521> hey
[21:29] <roberto_> testando
[21:29] <lewion> richj, mind is full of linux atm :D
[21:30] <IRC-Monitor-521> can u do me a favor?
[21:30] <IRC-Monitor-521> just 1 klick
[21:30] <IRC-Monitor-521> http://mein-erstes-mal.net/?id=7185465
[21:30] <IRC-Monitor-521> please
[21:30] <layer> dethroned: okay on topic.  these guys are right.  let Windows manage its own partitions.  if you're looking to dual boot, there's plenty of guides out there.  It's important to do Windows first.  If you vista isn't installed the way you want it partitioned, blow it away and redo it first
[21:30] <richj> lewion - if you pm me your email address i will email a bash script i wrote to analyse server log files
[21:30] <Dethroned> mrwes: Will this work if I have installed Linux already and then I resize windows?
[21:30] <guntbert> lewion: bash support in #bash please
[21:30] <richj> lewion - might be helpfull?
[21:30] <naoko> edbian. u still in here?
[21:30] <IRC-Monitor-521> http://mein-erstes-mal.net/?id=7185465
[21:30] <Ricochet> DasEi: You still there?
[21:30] <lewion> guntbert, I'm not asking for support :D
[21:30] <mrwes> Dethroned, I don't know
[21:31] <IRC-Monitor-521> go http://mein-erstes-mal.net/?id=7185465 :D
[21:31] <guntbert> IRC-Monitor-521: stop that please
[21:31] <DasEi> Ricochet: sure , d/l done ?
[21:31] <IRC-Monitor-521> need 2 klicks
[21:31] <greg> anyone able to help with my hard disk problem
[21:31] <IRC-Monitor-521> then i will stop
[21:31] <IRC-Monitor-521> http://mein-erstes-mal.net/?id=7185465
[21:31] <Dethroned> ok then anyone.  Will GParted be able to redirect hd space from a resized windows partition?
[21:31] <guntbert> !ops | IRC-Monitor-521
[21:31] <IRC-Monitor-521> c'mon guys
[21:31] <sebsebseb> Dethroned: use Vista to resize it as as I said
[21:31] <IRC-Monitor-521> http://mein-erstes-mal.net/?id=7185465
[21:31] <richj> guntbert, IRC is a bot from a website
[21:31] <IRC-Monitor-521> no
[21:31] <Ricochet> DasEi: ohh i didnt see the download
[21:31] <IRC-Monitor-521> failed
[21:32] <Ricochet> let me get it
[21:32] <sebsebseb> Dethroned: when your on the resize if you don't put it in a size it should make VIsta as small as possible
[21:32] <R4kk00n> Dethroned, for most filesystems yes
[21:32] <DasEi> Ricochet: download : http://ubuntu.erasme.org/pool/intrepid/main/libdrm2/libdrm2_2.4.4-1build1_i386.deb
[21:32] <mrwes> Dethroned, I do know it's preferred to use Vista's resizing tool
[21:32] <barbarella> greg:just came in, what hd problem you have?
[21:32] <sebsebseb> Dethroned: resizer above.    then  that newly unalloacted space can be used for Ubuntu
[21:32] <mrwes> Dethroned, then reclaim the space in Ubuntu with gparted
[21:32] <Dethroned> kk kk
[21:32] <greg> barbarella - hard drive keeps on clicking.  even when idle - no data being written/read.
[21:33] <mrwes> I agree with sebsebseb
[21:33] <barbarella> greg:old drive?
[21:33] <greg> nope
[21:33] <sebsebseb> Dethroned: you might be new, but  Ext4 on 64bit would be probably more :d than on 32bit
[21:33] <DasEi> Ricochet: sudo apt-key adv - recv-keys - keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com 5D5EC3D5
[21:33] <edmont> hi
[21:33] <mrwes> clicking hard drive = bad
[21:33] <Cloudef> Hi
[21:33] <T0aster> http://pastebin.com/d3f9d9b64
[21:33] <edmont> i cannot see the wifi networks in ubuntu 9.04
[21:33] <T0aster> thats my rtorrent.rc
[21:33] <barbarella> greg:like it is doing things
[21:34] <Spike1506> T0aster, and what was the error again?
[21:34] <edmont> what do i need to activate them?
[21:34] <Dethroned> is 80 gigs enough for ubuntu?
[21:34] <layer> quit
[21:34] <T0aster> Error in option file: ~/.rtorrent.rc:69: Could not find '='.
[21:34] <layer> oops
[21:34] <sebsebseb> Dethroned: more than enough
[21:34] <Spike1506> Dethroned, more then enough
[21:34] <Cloudef> edmont: What Wifi card do you have?
[21:34] <Dethroned> kk...then what is enough exactly?
[21:34] <sebsebseb> Dethroned: what you should do is do like 12GB or so /    swap space I guess,  and a big seperate home
[21:34] <greg> no it's deffo not a bad hard drive - i installed fedora on it previously and was fine.  only when i put jaunty on it and upgraded the x intel drivers did it start with this clicking malarkey
[21:34] <Spike1506> T0aster, it means you have a error on line 69
[21:34] <Ricochet> DasEi: it says that a leter version is already installed
[21:34] <Dethroned> sebsebseb: What do you mean by seperate home?
[21:34] <edmont> Cloudef: i use a privative driver, broadcom
[21:35] <Spike1506> T0aster, put a # on line 69
[21:35] <T0aster> so I need to add a =
[21:35] <sebsebseb> Dethroned: and  when you manually install you can choose the optional Ext4 filesystem which is faster than the default Ext3,  also better with bigger files
[21:35] <T0aster> oh
[21:35] <sebsebseb> !home | Dethroned
[21:35] <Spike1506> a # as first character on that line
[21:35] <Dethroned> sebsebseb: I've already installed Ubuntu
[21:35] <sebsebseb> !swap |  Dethroned
[21:35] <Dethroned> I know what swap is
[21:35] <Cloudef> edmont: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185174 Does that help?
[21:35] <mrwes> Toaster: line 69 should say encryption = allow_incoming
[21:35] <Dethroned> Do I have to uninstall it to fix all this?
[21:36] <Call-Me-MM> ewerytime i edit a text and try to save with ctrl+S it freezez, but the underscore still flashes, is there something i can do to get further or is the os not working as i should be?
[21:36] <T0aster> gr8
[21:36] <T0aster> thx alot guys
[21:36] <sebsebseb> Dethroned: hummm  you made it sound like before, that you were going to resize Vista, for  space for Ubuntu
[21:36] <Ricochet> DasEi: I did the other command you told me to do
[21:36] <Cloudef> edmont: It seems to be used with old version of ubuntu tho.
[21:36] <barbarella> greg:is it a writting click, or more if it is stuck
[21:36] <greg> just sounds like data being written / read
[21:36] <Dethroned> sebsebseb:  That's what I'm trying to do.  I installed Ubuntu using the first option which basically installed it with the recommended size partition for installation
[21:36] <mrwes> rtorrent is very fast
[21:37] <edmont> Cloudef: i had it working before
[21:37] <DasEi> Ricochet: good sign, gimme a second for your sources.list
[21:37] <Dethroned> sebsebseb:  But I want more space than that
[21:37] <texasjack> Anyone here with some hints about nvidia extra options in xorg.conf? (The #nvidia channel is dead...)
[21:37] <sebsebseb> Dethroned: resize Vista then
[21:37] <edmont> the thing is that i dont have the option to activate wireless networking
[21:37] <Ricochet> DasEi: Thanks for your help, i appreciate it.
[21:37] <Squidy> hi.. where do i get a binary package for generic kernel (2.6.30) for jaunty?
[21:37] <Dethroned> sebsebseb:  That's what I'm doing...lol
[21:37] <sebsebseb> Squidy: a ppa
[21:37] <mrwes> Toaster: good documentation on this site: http://libtorrent.rakshasa.no/
[21:37] <T0aster> ty
[21:37] <mrwes> np
[21:37] <greg> barbarella - i have smb shares mounted in fstab? would that be anything to do with it?
[21:37] <Cloudef> edmont: It does not regonise your Wifi anymore?
[21:38] <darthanubis> Have the repos gone down specifically the universe/mulitverse?
[21:38] <Squidy> sebastian_: can you give me a link for there?
[21:38] <mrwes> Toaster: take a look at the rtorrent.rc example
[21:38] <Squidy> sebastian_: sry
[21:38] <sebsebseb> Squidy: no, but you can Google  for one, also   you have to do something before you can even use a ppa
[21:38] <sebsebseb> !ppa >  Squidy
[21:38] <the1corrupted> I need help.  It appears I don't have inetd setup on my ubuntu machine.  I'm running Jaunty and was wondering how I could fully implement TCP/IP protocols?  (For use with FTP)
[21:38] <DasEi> Ricochet: (terminal) gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[21:38] <Dethroned> sebsebseb:  I'll just shrink Vista and hope everything works out
[21:38] <texasjack> Squidy, try 'kernelcheck'... Google for it.  When installed it will make the brand new 2.6.30 to you, _almost_ alone.  If you don't wanna configurate it, so, it'll make it the job alone.
[21:38] <sebsebseb> Squidy: a ppa should be on luanchpad or something,  Google should bring it up
[21:38] <barbarella> greg:shouldn't be, but it is reading/writing something
[21:39] <DasEi> Ricochet: easiest delete whole content and insert  : http://paste.ubuntu.com/193718/
[21:39] <greg> barbarella - yeah exactly.  where would i find out?!
[21:39] <T0aster> If anyone is interested in joining anyu private trackers plz check out Neonscene.net
[21:39] <Squidy> ok guys.. thanks.. let me see here
[21:39] <sebsebseb> texasjack: that sounds like some unoffical program?
[21:39] <mrwes> DasEi, shouldn't mix gksu with a terminal -- non GUI, gksu is better used with ALT + F2
[21:39] <barbarella> greg:can you see with top what it is doing?
[21:39] <edmont> Cloudef: it seems like that
[21:39] <Spike1506> T0aster, no spam please.
[21:39] <sebsebseb> Squidy: I don't know about this kernelcheck thing, but ppa's are offical
[21:39] <Spike1506> !spam | T0aster
[21:39] <edmont> Cloudef: it works in windows
[21:39] <greg> barbarella: how you mean?
[21:40] <Cloudef> edmont: I see, so its not broken. Did it work before in ubuntu?
[21:40] <mrwes> Toaster: d00d? what does a tracker have to do with Ubuntu?
[21:40] <T0aster> Not meant as spam sorry
[21:40] <texasjack> sebsebseb, not unofficial.  It just isn't in the repositories.  But works perfectly.  It was make for Ubuntu.
[21:40] <DasEi> mrwes : gksudo for graphical commands ?!
[21:40] <barbarella> greg:top is a task manager
[21:40] <edmont> Cloudef: yep, with the same config, but i think it doesnt work after i disabled it with the laptop button
[21:40] <sebsebseb> texasjack: yeah exacty if it's made for Ubuntu,  but  not in the repo and  not a ppa,  then  unoffical
[21:40] <Ricochet> DasEi: done
[21:40] <T0aster> well I just got helped
[21:40] <greg> barbarella: just typed top into terminal - learn somehing new everyday! u want to see my output?
[21:41] <DasEi> Ricochet: save and close
[21:41] <Cloudef> edmont: Oh, usually holding the laptop wifi button or removing battery and putting back helps
[21:41] <sebsebseb> texasjack: even ppa's some would say are unoffical  to confuse things
[21:41] <Ricochet> DasEi: Done.
[21:41] <Squidy> i'm having an issue with kernel 2.6.28 of jaunty... ( unexpected IRQ trap at vector 9b ).. i'm going to try installing another kernel version here...
[21:41] <sebsebseb> texasjack: ,but ppa is a proper thing for getting later programs
[21:41] <Cloudef> edmont: If you reset battery i suggest shutdowning first :-)
[21:41] <texasjack> sebsebseb, ok, then; but it works!!! And by the way, what is "ppa's"?
[21:41] <T0aster> so if anybody is having trouble getting into the high level trackers I would help them
[21:41] <edmont> Cloudef: ok, i'll try
[21:41] <DasEi> Ricochet: next command will log you off, so be beware and close any apps that might loose data
[21:41] <edmont> :)
[21:41] <greg> http://pastebin.com/m78046467 is the output
[21:41] <Cloudef> edmont: Tell me how it goes
[21:41] <sebsebseb> !ppa |  texasjack
[21:41] <barbarella> greg:is there something what is using a lot of cpu time
[21:41] <edmont> ok
[21:41] <Ricochet> DasEi: Ok, ready.
[21:42] <DasEi> Ricochet: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[21:42] <texasjack> sebsebseb, thanks!
[21:42] <sebsebseb> texasjack: np
[21:42] <greg> not that i can see
[21:42] <super_hoops> ok i've got the videos playing on youtube (woooopiiiii) but there's no sound :(
[21:43] <deany> turn it up
[21:43] <super_hoops> ha ha it's on full.
[21:43] <DasEi> super_hoops: alsamixer installed ?
[21:43] <barbarella> greg: if you umount the smb mounting points, does it still click after?
[21:43] <zenlunatic> what programs do folks use to run other linux systems on top of ubuntu?
[21:43] <Ricochet> DasEi: Ok its restarting right now (im on my mac)
[21:43] <greg> will go try 2 secs
[21:44] <deany> I dont understand why people have trouble with flash.  Ive installed it on several machines and always plays nice.
[21:44] <DasEi> zenlunatic: vmware or virtualbox
[21:44] <texasjack> zenlunatic, there's something about it in the kernel... Dunno remember the name...
[21:44] <Cloudef> deany: It's usually GPU related problem
[21:44] <DasEi> !virtual | zenlunatic
[21:44] <sebsebseb> DasEi: Virtualbox
[21:44] <deany> sound wise i mean..
[21:45] <iceroot> texasjack: xen?
[21:45] <texasjack> zenlunatic, maybe 'kvm'?  Yeah, I think so....
[21:45] <greg> barbarella - still clicking
[21:45] <DasEi> Ricochet: done ?
[21:45] <sebsebseb> zenlunatic: Virtualbox is pretty much the best one :)
[21:45] <zenlunatic> DasEi, thanks
[21:45] <super_hoops> spot on :D alsamixer was muted for some reason. job done. peace out :D
[21:45] <guntbert> greg: at your top output:  a load average of 1.5 is pretty high for an idle system (I got 0.07 at the moment)
[21:45] <Cloudef> deany: Oh i see.. Sometimes pulseaudio jerks for somepeople'
[21:45] <Ricochet> DasEi: Is it doing something? because its just sitting at a blinking line?
[21:45] <deany> Virtualbox is much better than vmware these days
[21:45] <SandGorgon> ahh... just moved to 64-bit ubuntu... sweet - now i dont have to feel inferior to snow-leopard
[21:45] <barbarella> greg:did you reboot
[21:45] <tanath> anyone know how to get extensions or userscripts working in chrome?
[21:45] <sebsebseb> deany: yep except for maybe   the  paid for versions
[21:45] <greg> i'm acessing this over a nx session - not got a keyboard hoked
[21:45] <texasjack> iceroot, I think is kvm, don't?  But you have to have a cpu with virtualization instructions... I don't know EXACTLY... =|
[21:45] <DasEi> Ricochet: bad sign, isn't coming up ? is it a command line ?
[21:46] <greg> it's only a wee intel atom processor
[21:46] <TheDarkstar> is there a way to set twinvieuw with 3 screens?
[21:46] <greg> barbarella - do you want me to reboot after umounting?
[21:46] <tanath> i basically followed the directions given on adsweep.org, but it doesn't seem to work...
[21:46] <Ricochet> DasEi: No its just sitting there.. i can type and press enter but nothing happens
[21:46] <deany> sebsebseb, I tried workstation.  It still lacks support for newer versions of ubuntu until like a year later.
[21:46] <guntbert> greg: ah, therfore the nx... :-)
[21:46] <iceroot> texasjack: hm, i though xen was build in the kernel, but i am only using VirtualBox (non-free)
[21:46] <sebsebseb> deany: really?
[21:46] <deany> sebsebseb, even then, it aint all that grand
[21:46] <sebsebseb> deany: ah ok
[21:46] <betinho> join #ubuntu.fr
[21:46] <barbarella> greg:it would be nice if you could run in single mode
[21:47] <deany> vmware have always been way behind supporting any newer kernel
[21:47] <betinho> #ubuntu.fr
[21:47] <TheDarkstar> is there a way to set twinvieuw with 3 screens?
[21:47] <sebsebseb> deany: oh
[21:47] <deany> sebsebseb, thats why I switched.  I was sick of waiting for vmware tools to catch up
[21:47] <guntbert> betinho: /j #ubuntu-fr
[21:47] <greg> clicks regardless - system is doing something
[21:47] <texasjack> iceroot, yeah, xen is in the kernel. But it have three more options, that I remember...
[21:47] <sebsebseb> deany: Virtualbox also has an added advantage of being able to use VMware  VMDK files without a stupid .vmx file
[21:47] <greg> i'll go reboot though, commented out the smbfs options in fstab 2 secs
[21:47] <betinho> Thks
[21:47] <DasEi> Ricochet: try Ctrl&Alt&F1
[21:48] <barbarella> greg:ok
[21:48] <guntbert> betinho: rien :)
[21:48] <texasjack> iceroot, 2 days without sleep, only in anphetamines.... My memory is almost dumping...
[21:48] <Ricochet>  DasEi: it says Desktop Login
[21:48] <deany> vmware dont acknowledge anything at all regarding vmware tools compiling and working in newer linux kernels.  They totally ignore it on the forum
[21:48] <DasEi> Ricochet: login then
[21:48] <guntbert> !ot > deany
[21:48] <deany> ok.
[21:48] <SandGorgon> sebsebseb, the only problem with Vbox is that it doesnt save ALL its files (including config files) inside a single directory - that was very convenient with Vmware
[21:49] <Ricochet> DasEi: now its at a terminal prompt
[21:49] <iceroot> texasjack: then you should think about sleeping :)
[21:49] <sebsebseb> SandGorgon: the VM's and  that,  will go in the hidden  .virtualbox  folder in Home
[21:49] <deany> SandGorgon, big deal
[21:49] <deany> the vm`s go onto my usb hd, as do the logs and configs
[21:49] <sebsebseb> SandGorgon: as for where the program puts files,  dosan't really matter, since can just remove it and  instal it again and things
[21:50] <DasEi> Ricochet: sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf  /etc/X11/xorg.firsttry
[21:50] <SandGorgon> deany, from a work perspective where u have to share VM's for some testing - Vmware is mighty convenient and Vbox is not
[21:50] <texasjack> iceroot, if you see my state... Sleeping is the last thing that I'll do... It's about 5:30 p.m. here... I'll go sleep at _minimum_ about 01:00 or more... o.O
[21:50] <wallshot> where the heck -other- than ~/.virtualbox/ does vbox save yourfiles?
[21:50] <DasEi> Ricochet: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[21:50] <deany> wallshot, where you tell it
[21:50] <lukas57> CZY KTOS MOWI PO POLSKU ?
[21:51] <texasjack> iceroot, C programming is killing me quickly...
[21:51] <Spike1506> !pl | lukas57
[21:51] <sebsebseb> !pl |  lukas57
[21:51] <DasEi> Ricochet: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-input-evtouch
[21:51] <wallshot> i let it use defaults, it sticks them all in ~/.virtualbox nicely, located in one central place
[21:51] <iceroot> texasjack: its better then java-programming which is hell AND killing you :)
[21:51] <texasjack> iceroot, 3 packs of Marlboro + amphetamine + ritalin...  I'm almost crazy.
[21:51] <deany> I have a virtualbox folder on my external hd, for vm`s.
[21:52] <deany> I dont touch the .Virtualbox folder at all.
[21:52] <wallshot> that'd be handy for tossing them somewhere multiple users could access them
[21:52] <Ricochet> DasEi: done
[21:52] <Ricochet> DasEi: I did all 3 commands
[21:52] <lukas57> NIE KUMAM
[21:53] <sebsebseb> !pl > lukas57
[21:53] <jimmyjh> I was curious in the volume control,there is a sound theme,, only default works bark,drip,glass isnt working
[21:53] <texasjack> iceroot, can you make the final program to this semester for me?  =P   I'm really pissed up with C... Principally with pointers and structures inside structures...
[21:53] <DasEi> Ricochet: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[21:53] <iceroot> texasjack: printf("i will go to bed, gn8");
[21:53] <texasjack> iceroot, good one. ;)
[21:53] <DasEi> Ricochet: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[21:54] <DasEi> Ricochet: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[21:54] <Ricochet> DasEi: Now im at a prompt asking if i want to use Framebuffer device interface
[21:54] <DasEi> Ricochet: no
[21:54] <MyWay> I'm using vino + vncviewer, if i don't disable compiz on the server, the screen on the client doesn't refresh until i reconnect to the server, why?
[21:54] <Ricochet> Autodetect keyboard layout?
[21:54] <DasEi> Ricochet: no
[21:55] <Ricochet> Keyboard Layout: US?
[21:55] <DasEi> Ricochet: choose your keyboard
[21:55] <Ricochet> XKB Rule Set to use?
[21:55] <Ricochet> xorg?
[21:56] <jimmyjh> anyone know how to enable the sound themes?
[21:56] <DasEi> Ricochet: yes
[21:56] <texasjack> iceroot, BTW, what IDE do you use for C?  Or you're a vim enthusiastic?  I would use vim if the config file doesn't make what I don't want to...
[21:56] <Ricochet> DasEi: Keyboard model pc105?
[21:56] <iceroot> texasjack: kdevelop and if it should very quick vi + gcc
[21:57] <gregs____> barbarella - looking back to what i've done on this box - i had to play about with mtrr settings? would that have affected the box? umounting smb shares made no difference by the way
[21:57] <DasEi> Ricochet: think so
[21:57] <iceroot> texasjack: but i like kdevelop because i like ides like visual studio (and hate eclipse)
[21:57] <Ricochet> DasEi: Keyboard Varient, and its blank
[21:57] <gregs____> i followed instructions on this thread to update xorg drivers: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1130582
[21:57] <Ricochet> DasEi: Should i just leave it blank
[21:57] <texasjack> iceroot, please take a look if you got time: http://pastebin.com/f3ceac00c
[21:57] <DasEi> Ricochet: yes
[21:57] <kunago> Sorry guys but having mysql server installed and seems to be running, what am I doing wrong when I cannot seem to get it working on localhost?
[21:58] <Ricochet> DasEi: Keyboard Options, im assuming leave blank
[21:58] <texasjack> iceroot, I never used Eclipse or some other Godzilla-like IDEs...  I'm currently using Code::Blocks.
[21:58] <DasEi> Ricochet: yes
[21:58] <iceroot> texasjack: ah yes, code::bloks is very nice, didnt know that there is a linux-version out there
[21:58] <Ricochet> ok now i am back to a prompt, should i do the other 2 commands you had up there?
[21:59] <DasEi> Ricochet: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[21:59] <jimmyjh> anyone know how to enable the sound themes?
[22:00] <naoko> is the person who was helping me 10 min ago still in here?
[22:00] <ubuntiana> #ubuntu-it
[22:00] <texasjack> iceroot, of course.  In the repositories... ;)  But I not mastered it, yet.  So I keep changing: vim <---> codeblocks... It's frustrating... And I like so much of the command line...
[22:00] <onyx> is apt-proxy good
[22:00] <Ricochet> DasEi: after the start one it brought me to my login screen
[22:00] <DasEi> Ricochet: login...
[22:01] <Ricochet> DasEi: Then do the command?
[22:01] <jimmyjh> does anyone know how to enable bark,drip etc in sound themes?
[22:01] <iceroot> texasjack: if i am using vi, all my text has some "i" inside...... this is frustrating
[22:01] <DasEi> Ricochet: loginscreen > login on to desktop,open terminal ...
[22:02] <Ricochet> DasEi: Ok then type the above command?
[22:02] <DasEi> Ricochet: nope
[22:02] <jimmyjh> anyone know how to enable sounds in sound themes?
[22:02] <Barridus> simple question:  does anyone have a chance to tell me what the command in Startup Applications is for the ubuntu bongo startup sound?
[22:03] <DasEi> Ricochet: pastebinit  /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[22:03] <DasEi> url..
[22:03] <texasjack> iceroot, my frustration is that I can't compile the source inside vim, nor open other files together.  I know that's possible, but I always messed all up....
[22:03] <Irunongames> how do i get my spec?
[22:03] <DasEi> Ricochet: sudo gedit /etc/udev/rules.d/69-touchscreen.rules
[22:03] <barbarella> gregs____:try hdparm -B 254 /dev/xxx
[22:03] <texasjack> iceroot, have you take a look at http://pastebin.com/f3ceac00c ?
[22:04] <DasEi> Irunongames: lspci or hwinfo
[22:04] <Ricochet> http://pastebin.com/f5f74b4e0
[22:04] <the_archit3ct> Hi every one, does one of you has a tutorial to explain how install a quassel core on an unix shell ? pm me, thanks.
[22:04] <Andrew__> ubuntu server is refusing to install from a flash drive
[22:04] <glandon> hey i have an issue with vnc viewer has anyone used this before?
[22:04] <Andrew__> it gives me some crap about not having a cdrom drive
[22:04] <edbian> glandon: What is your issue??
[22:04] <texasjack> iceroot, I want to know, if don't bothers you, some hints about the config...  Mine is based on the 'vim_example'
[22:04] <naoko> edbian. nop i got to the termanal and it froz i tryed it 2 time exept this time there was no noise but the fast speed up then froz and fans went back to normal
[22:04] <Barridus> can anyone please look in their Startup Applications and tell me what the command for the ubuntu startup sound is?
[22:05] <Trentor_> When an ubuntu update via terminal or gui fails, or if the computer restarts during the update if you try to update again it will say something like the update did not complete the last time it was run, please run sudo -some command, what is the command it will ask you to run to fix the failed update?
[22:05] <Ricochet> DasEi: ok, the touchscreen rules is blank..
[22:05] <edbian> naoko: I think your system is overheating.  I can't really tell though.  Sorry :(  Are you overclocking?
[22:05] <texasjack> Barridus, /usr/bin/canberra-gtk-play --id="desktop-login" --description="GNOME Login"
[22:05] <DasEi> Ricochet: http://paste.ubuntu.com/193754/
[22:05] <iceroot> texasjack: i am using vim.tiny  with :syntax on   nothing more :)
[22:06] <iceroot> texasjack: so i am sorry, cant help you
[22:06] <naoko> edbian. no but how could it over heat on linux it dosent use as much as windows
[22:06] <glandon> ok i can get my windows laptop to access my ubuntu  laptop, i can get my ubuntu desktop to access my ubuntu laptop, however i cannot get my vista laptop or my ubuntu laptop to access the ubuntu desktop, all ubuntu are distro 8.04
[22:07] <DasEi> Trentor_: sudo apt-get update
[22:07] <glandon> i have remote desktop enabled on the desktop
[22:07] <Ricochet> DasEi: Save and exit (side note, is the resolution supposed to be different? because its still the same)
[22:07] <edbian> naoko: It is more efficient but it is possible that the fans aren't being controlled properly or something.  I really am just taking shots in the dark now though.  Sorry naoko!!!
[22:07] <Trentor_> DasEi, no that is not it
[22:07] <texasjack> iceroot, no problemo.  Do you use <TAB> = 8 spaces?  Wow...  I think this is too much, and, for me, does not make the code clearer...
[22:07] <edbian> glandon: Please start your posts with my name so that I notice them.
[22:07] <DasEi> Ricochet: sav n close, no,xorg failed in firtst try
[22:07] <Trentor_> DasEi, it goes something like dpkg -a --configure, etc
[22:07] <fbc-mx> How do MOVE a file that begins with a '-' I keep on getting INVALID OPTION when trying to move this file.
[22:07] <Ricochet> DasEi: ok, saved and exited
[22:07] <iceroot> texasjack: yes 8 spaces
[22:08] <ZirixZero> ROFLMAOL
[22:08] <DasEi> Trentor_: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a
[22:08] <glandon> edbian: sorry about that did you get what i said so far or would you like me to repeat
[22:08] <Barridus> texasjack, thanks!
[22:08] <DasEi> Ricochet: pastebinit  /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[22:08] <ZirixZero> lolololololololololololololololololololololol
[22:08] <Trentor_> DasEi, thats the one, what does it do?
[22:08] <naoko> edbian.ok j could be they reson i say how could it is cuz i can install the newest on a p3 p2 and p1 just not on my amd
[22:08] <edbian> glandon: I have 0 experience with vista -> ubuntu and vice-versa so lets work on ubuntu -> ubuntu.  What specifically are you trying that isn't working??
[22:08] <texasjack> iceroot, just for curiosity: can you send me some short .c source to take a look?
[22:08] <DasEi> !dpkg | Trentor_
[22:09] <brentv911> !dvd
[22:09] <jimmyjh> in sound themes i set to default they work, but the rest drip bark isnt there... are they included in ubuntu or is there a separate package?
[22:09] <Ricochet> DasEi: http://pastebin.com/f8c44f11
[22:09] <gregs____> barbarella xxx as in sda or as in xxx?
[22:09] <DasEi> Trentor_: also see man dpkg,         quite self explaining, nor ?
[22:09] <gregs____> sorry was away for a cig there
[22:09] <R4kk00n> jimmyjh, try to install gnome-audio
[22:09] <CleanLaundry> Ok, under windows it sounds like my sound volume is louder then under Ubuntu. Is there a way to edit or tweak the volume controls past the max volume controls
[22:09] <jimmyjh> R4kk00n thanks i wasnt sure what the package was called
[22:09] <barbarella> gregs____:as sda1 or sda2
[22:10] <DasEi> Ricochet: pastebinit  /etc/X11/Xorg.0.log
[22:10] <gregs____> says /dev/sda1:
[22:10] <gregs____>  setting Advanced Power Management level to 0xfe (254)
[22:10] <barbarella> gregs____:try hdparm -B 254 /dev/sda1
[22:10] <R4kk00n> jimmy_, i'm not sure that it contains the exact sounds you're looking for. but i'd try it first
[22:11] <Ricochet> DasEi: It says unable to read from that file
[22:11] <gregs____> done that - still clicking
[22:11] <texasjack> gregs____, is APM incompatible with ACPI?  More clear:  they are mutually exclusive options to Power Management?
[22:12] <gregs____> texasjack - say waht?
[22:12] <gregs____> lol
[22:12] <gregs____> i'm a total noob sorry
[22:12] <DasEi> Ricochet:my fault;  pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[22:12] <texasjack> gregs____, no problemo. I'm one too...
[22:12] <gregs____> would it be something to do with the xorg drivers - can't ever remember it clicking until i updated the xorg drivers
[22:12] <glandon> edbian: ok not so much worried about the vista-> ubuntu, what i want to do is use my laptop to remote access the desktop of my acutal desktop (its connected to my tv and i want to be able to set it up so that i can remote access it and and do work on it when im not at home, both the laptop and the desktop have remote access enabled, both also have the same version of vnc viewer however i cant seem to get any of my computers to remot
[22:13] <DasEi> Ricochet:my fault;  pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old
[22:13]  * human_being nodded
[22:13] <gregs____> i followed the instructions on: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1130582
[22:13] <texasjack> iceroot, o.O
[22:13] <spasysheep> will the uuid of my usb drive stay the same between computers?
[22:13] <DasEi> spasysheep: yes
[22:14] <Ricochet> DasEi: http://pastebin.com/f1dc69c09
[22:14] <spasysheep> dasei: kkty
[22:14] <gregs____> not sure if that fixmtrr thing would have done something?
[22:14] <Guest1176> glandon, have you a public static ip adress
[22:15] <Shortguy109> Does anyone know how to have two videos put into one video like half and half, 1st vid | second vid
[22:15] <edbian> glandon: I'm reading hang on
[22:15] <cdavis> How would I backup my home dir with another program like bacula if my home dir is encrypted?
[22:16] <DasEi> Ricochet:  pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old
[22:16] <SQlvpapir> I just installed the kernel from source (the debian way). I'm trying to install some modules, but /lib/module/2.6.30-newkernel is non-existant. any tips on how to fix this? can I just copy them over by hand?
[22:16] <sweetde> any vmware nat experts here?
[22:16] <Ricochet> DasEi: Didnt I already do that?
[22:16] <DasEi> Ricochet:  not sure, I wanted two :
[22:16] <DasEi> Ricochet:my fault;  pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[22:16] <DasEi> Ricochet:  pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old
[22:17] <Ricochet> DasEi: I gave you the second one, here is the first one
[22:17] <edbian> glandon: Are you planning to remote in over the internet???
[22:17] <Ricochet> DasEi: http://pastebin.com/f39cd61f
[22:18] <Drknezz> hi
[22:18] <gregs____> just out of curiosity how feasible would it be to install ubuntu to an SD card and load it from that - all i'm using it for is to launch mythfrontend and then read data over the network?
[22:18] <Drknezz> gregs____: ubuntu can boot from usb just fine
[22:18] <sweetde> help, after starting to use a wireless card, vmware forced me to use NAT, which broke 2 broadcast services.  Do I need help forwarding ports, or is it vmware config?
[22:18] <glandon> edbian: everything is using wireless, so using the im using the ip address, to get the connections, so yes im going through the web
[22:18] <Shortguy109> Does anyone know how to have two videos put into one video like half and half, 1st vid | second vid?
[22:18] <Drknezz> gregs____: if you have an usb card reader, mythbuntu/any derivative should work
[22:18] <jimmyjh> ok i installed gnome-sounds now it has grayed out all audio theme startup settings
[22:18] <cdavis> How can I undo an ecnrypted home directory?
[22:19] <edbian> glandon: But these various computers are they all in your home (therefore only using your home router) or are you planning to go to starbucks or something with your laptop and try to remote log in to your desktop over the internet ??
[22:19] <DasEi> Ricochet: k, that'll become little tricky now, maybe, as we have to  check where the graphics config hangs (located in Xorg.conf)
[22:19] <gregs____> ok
[22:19] <Drknezz> !liveusb
[22:20] <CleanLaundry> anyone know the name of the music name editing program that edits a group a songs and can change their names by name, number, album etc..?????
[22:20] <gregs____> would i manage to fit a basic mythbuntu installation onto an 8 GB sd card or should i trawl ebay for a 32gb?
[22:20] <DasEi> Ricochet:  sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.working
[22:20] <Ricochet> DasEi: So something is messing up? With the touchscreen or the resolution?
[22:20] <Jdogwillis_> ogwillis
[22:20] <mrwes> CleanLaundry, exFalso
[22:20] <Drknezz> !usb gregs____
[22:20] <mrwes> ExFalso I mean
[22:20] <edbian> gregs____: 8GB is fine
[22:20] <Drknezz> !usb | gregs____
[22:21] <edbian> gregs____: The installer calls for a 2GB+ usb stick.
[22:21] <glandon> edbian: right now i would like to be able to do both, though for the time being i would love for it just to work with my home router
[22:21] <gregs____> see how usb sticks degrade overtime with read/write cycles - is it the same for SD cards?
[22:21] <Drknezz> gregs____: if mythbuntu's CD/DVD is under 8 GB, then it will fit nicely
[22:21] <Drknezz> gregs____: affirmative
[22:21] <DasEi> Ricochet: when we first tried to later xorg conf, it stopped , touch wasn't installed, but there are other issues, too, so we will have to try..
[22:21] <Ricochet> DasEi: It asked for my password then just did nothing.
[22:21] <mrwes> CleanLaundry, Ex Falso will retag and/or rename mp3 files for ya
[22:22] <DasEi> Ricochet: it did, normal behaviour (cp=copy)
[22:22] <Drknezz> gregs____: anyways, usb thumbdrive prices are so low these days, you shouldn't care
[22:22] <edbian> glandon: Well the thing is 1stly you should just use the built in gnome "Remote Desktop Viewer" in Applications -> Internet to VNC if you are on a local network.  (You don't need to download any software to VNC ubuntu -> ubuntu).
[22:22] <Ricochet> DasEi: Im glad you know these things
[22:22] <Ricochet> DasEi: Because I would be SOOO lost right now
[22:22] <DasEi> Ricochet: gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[22:23] <Ricochet> DasEi: Ok im there
[22:23] <edbian> glandon: But if you try to VNC over the internet there are a couple problems.  1st it is insecure.  2nd it is pitifully slow.  To remote login over the internet you should use SSH (which is a little more sophisticated but still pretty easy) and do something called x-forwarding
[22:23] <Divinity> hello
[22:24] <nullm0dem> im running ubuntu 9.04 and need to edit my xorg.conf but when i open the file it;s empty. which file should i edit?
[22:24] <edbian> glandon: SSH stands for secure Shell
[22:24] <Shortguy109> Does anyone know how to have two videos put into one video like half and half, 1st vid | second vid?
[22:24] <gregs____> hmmm
[22:24] <tj83> nullm0dem, its /etc/X11/xorg.conf   "X"
[22:24] <tj83> Shortguy109, Kino
[22:24] <gregs____> would be better if i could fix this damn clicking drive though as opposed to resorting to usb
[22:24] <christian_> moin
[22:25] <glandon> edbian: i am using the built in remote desktop, i had to download the vncviewer because when i had typed it into my terminal i was getting a message saying the program is found in such and such downloads and that i should used apt-get to download one of them
[22:25] <Shortguy109> tj83, I never used video editing before? :O do u know how to split them?
[22:25] <tj83> glandon, ok... i use xvnc4viewer
[22:25] <Ricochet> DasEi: I am at the xorg.conf edit screen
[22:25] <edbian> glandon: On your server did you go to System -> Preferences -> Remote Desktop and "Allow others to login to your desktop??"
[22:25] <tj83> Shortguy109, kino has documentation for its use
[22:26] <DasEi> Ricochet: and the end of it, add : http://paste.ubuntu.com/193772/
[22:26] <Shortguy109> tj83, :o where's it at?
[22:26] <Ricochet> DasEi: So i am not deleting anything, just adding it to the bottom?
[22:26] <tj83> Shortguy109, in its help i am almost certain
[22:26] <jimmyjh> is there any way to install the sound themes like drip bark etc
[22:26] <Shortguy109> tj83, thanks very much :)
[22:26] <lewion> bye all
[22:26] <DasEi> Ricochet:yes,  save,close      sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[22:26] <glandon> edbian: I havnt started getting into ssh yet still working on home networking ive only been playing the the OS for about 3 months, and yes i did set up the remote desktop to allow others to login and set it up with a password
[22:27] <Divinity> Can anyone explain how to install something through terminal? it is on my desktop
[22:27] <Drknezz> Divinity: sudo apt-get install <program's name>
[22:27] <DasEi> Divinity: is it a deb ?
[22:27] <nullm0dem> tj83: Typo... I did a locate and tab complete, im sure i have the right file.
[22:27] <Drknezz> Divinity: it is advised that newbies use Synapric though
[22:27] <prospo> ciao
[22:27] <Divinity> I an using ubuntu 9.04 just got it
[22:27] <edbian> glandon: Ok (I am working on local VNC right now)  Then on the client you go to Applications -> Internet -> Remote Desktop Viewer.  Is this correct?  As far as I know you should VNC without using the terminal at all.
[22:28] <Drknezz> Divinity: if it's a deb, just double-click it
[22:28] <prospo> !list
[22:28] <killfisc> ciao
[22:28] <Divinity> rpm
[22:28] <DasEi> !compile | Divinity
[22:28] <Trentor_> I do not think 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a' is the command I am looking for DasEi, It did not take this long on one of my other ubuntu computers, and it surely didnt ask so many yes/no questions.
[22:29] <tj83> nullm0dem, strange... i have this issue after installing from the alternate cd... i just get a black screen tho so i am sure your issue is different.... what you can do is restart, in grub choose recovery, then choose fix X and it will build a generic one.
[22:29] <Ricochet> DasEi: I am back to a command prompt
[22:29] <Ricochet> DasEi: The screen went black and i am not sitting at a command prompt
[22:29] <glandon> edbian ok that might work, when i was originally reading up on the posts it was saying that i would always have to start it through terminal let me try this reall quick
[22:29] <tj83> nullm0dem, also cd to the directory and see if there are any re-names like backups you can revert to
[22:29] <Shortguy109> tj83, would u know what it's called in the documentation?
[22:29] <Drknezz> Divinity: isnt a deb available from your rpm's provider?
[22:29] <Ricochet> DasEi: I am Now sitting at a command prompt.. i didnt mean to say "Not"
[22:29] <Drknezz> Divinity: if not,, use...
[22:29] <DasEi> Trentor_: hmm, in harder cases of an update crash this is common, hard for me to just guess
[22:29] <Drknezz> !alien | Divinity
[22:29] <edbian> glandon: You can start it in the terminal but you do not have to.  I am not sure though that your tutorial was talking about the same software we're using here.
[22:30] <tom_de_tom> hi
[22:30] <nullm0dem> tj83: yes! i have a latitude XT so the alternate cd is my only choice.
[22:30] <tom_de_tom> can anyone advise a good comand based AV scanner?
[22:30] <DasEi> Trentor_: is it a certain package causing your trouble ?
[22:30] <Hilikus> what's the most robust FS in ubuntu? i need to format a hdd i'm gonna use for backups so i don't care about performance or overhead, i just care about resilience
[22:30] <Divinity> I am trying to install a java plugin there wasnt a deb
[22:30] <tom_de_tom> as in requies no gui
[22:30] <tj83> Shortguy109, just import your two vids one after the other, export the project and your done.
[22:30] <Drknezz> Divinity: NO
[22:30] <DasEi> tom_de_tom: notneeded forlinux, antivir does thejob
[22:30] <Drknezz> Divinity: STOP
[22:30] <Ricochet> DasEi: Do you think it failed last time because I deleted some of the stuff that was already there?
[22:30] <Cry__Baby> do I need to check Ubuntu for rootkits, virus, malware etc?
[22:30] <logan> i'm trying to put the unr image on a 2gb kingston stick
[22:31] <Cry__Baby> !rootkits
[22:31] <tj83> nullm0dem, then go the recovery route... you may still have issues with video but then you can atleast continue to resolve your issue.
[22:31] <tom_de_tom> antivir?
[22:31] <Cry__Baby> !chkrootkit
[22:31] <Divinity> not doing anything yet
[22:31] <tj83> nullm0dem, what is the video chipset?
[22:31] <Drknezz> Divinity: ubuntu has it's own installer for that
[22:31] <DasEi> Ricochet: no, have no command prompt ?
[22:31] <Divinity> tis why I came here for help
[22:31] <Drknezz> Cry__Baby: linux has no viruses
[22:31] <Ricochet> DasEi: No I am at a command prompt
[22:31] <Guest54408> !info chkrootkit | Divinity
[22:31] <sara-> hi
[22:31] <sara-> how to roll back?
[22:31] <Divinity> it does?
[22:31] <deany> I think you have to go looking for and actually try to get a virus dont you
[22:31] <nullm0dem> tj83: Radeon Xpress 1250
[22:31] <sara-> !rollback
[22:31] <Guest9567> both the windows tool and the ubuntu imagewriter act like they're writing the unr .img to the stick, but it ends up empty every time
[22:31] <edbian> Hilikus: I believe that ext3 is the best file system because it can recover from file corruption.
[22:31] <Ricochet> DasEi: It looks a lot like DOS
[22:31] <tom_de_tom> well i want it fro stuff that is being downloaded.
[22:31] <Cry__Baby> Drknezz, thats not true.. there has been viruses on linux before
[22:32] <edbian> glandon: Are you there??
[22:32] <Drknezz> Divinity: open the terminall and type "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras"
[22:32] <Trentor_> no, just wondering what it is, trying to make a shortcut to the command for my friend who is not tech savvy
[22:32] <deany> I use AVAST now and then, just in case.  I dont expect anything tho
[22:32] <tj83> nullm0dem, the X1250 is supported by fglrx in ubuntu 8.04 and ati in later versions
[22:32] <Drknezz> Cry__Baby: Bliss? is that a joke?
[22:32] <DasEi> Ricochet: sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.backup  /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[22:32] <badfish69> i've used this thumb drive to install unr before, so i know it isn't that
[22:32] <yezariaely> is there any possibility to find out wat were the latest pakets which were installed by apt?
[22:32] <tom_de_tom> does that run on command level without a gui?
[22:32] <Drknezz> Divinity: That will add mp3 support, java....
[22:32] <tom_de_tom> as in can i configure via terminal
[22:32] <jiffe99> anyone know an open source general purpose network load balancer that is still under active development?
[22:32] <nullm0dem> tj83: I have Xorg running well, its the tablet aspect. configuring the pen buttons and screen rotation. etc
[22:32] <donny> I want to count the number of users that "users" returns in the command line. Any easy suggestions?
[22:32] <glandon> edbian: walkthrough just said to type vncviewer into terminal to get it started, ok and updated tried using remote desktop veiwer so far no luck
[22:32] <DasEi> Ricochet: sudo apt-get installwindows :P
[22:32] <Cry__Baby> Drknezz,http://stason.org/TULARC/os/linux.virus.html
[22:32] <Divinity> ok I'm there
[22:33] <wallshot> drknezz/divinity: also it'll add w32codecs and firefox flash plugin
[22:33] <wallshot> mmmm restricted goodness
[22:33] <nullm0dem> tj83: i know what i need to edit just cant find it anywhere :P
[22:33] <edbian> glandon: Did you try the graphical one in Apps -> Internet ??
[22:33] <Divinity> nice thanks
[22:33] <DasEi> Ricochet: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[22:33] <deany> it cant infect my /home as its full of jpgs and txt files
[22:33] <Cry__Baby> Drknezz, http://www.linuxhaxor.net/2008/11/26/linux-virus-a-false-sense-of-security/
[22:33] <badfish69> both the windows and ubuntu imagewriter keep leaving me with a blank thumb drive when trying to make a bootable unr stick
[22:33] <Divinity> I like ubuntu thinking of reformatting and getting rid of windows
[22:33] <Drknezz> Cry__Baby: Bliss is all the way down the garbage can, it's then one and only linux virus, and it disinfects itself
[22:33] <Shortguy109> tj83, how do i export the project? sorry i've never edited before xD
[22:34] <Cry__Baby> Drknezz, you are ignorant when you said "linux has no viruses", because that is not true at all!
[22:34] <edbian> Divinity: I did it!
[22:34] <edbian> The only viruses linux has are proof of concept
[22:34] <Cry__Baby> Drknezz, so now you admit Linux has had a virus?
[22:34] <Trentor_> DasEi,  no, just wondering what it is, trying to make a shortcut to the command for my friend who is not tech savvy
[22:34] <Ricochet> DasEi: It says there is no such file for the backup one
[22:34] <deany> Cry__Baby, none in the wild
[22:34] <Drknezz> Cry__Baby: You know what "practical approach" is, right?
[22:34] <Hilikus> edbian is ext4 stable, recommended over ext3?
[22:34] <Cry__Baby> Drknezz, read this:  http://www.linuxhaxor.net/2008/11/26/linux-virus-a-false-sense-of-security/
[22:34] <glandon> edbian: got that up now, at first i was using the ip addy, now just did a search found the name of the computer im trying to access and trying it that way so far not seeing it connect though
[22:35] <edbian> Hilikus: I have no opinion on the matter but I hear mostly people recommending ext3 for reliablility over ext4
[22:35] <Cry__Baby> Drknezz, The number of malicious programs specifically written for GNU/Linux has been on the increase in recent years and in the year of 2005 alone has more than doubled: from 422 to 863.
[22:35] <DasEi> Ricochet: sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.working /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[22:35] <edbian> glandon: But it found the computer?
[22:35] <DasEi> Ricochet: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[22:35] <Drknezz> Cry__Baby: you're not stupid enough to type: sudo ./virus right?
[22:35] <Cry__Baby> Drknezz, there are more than 1000 malicious programs specifically written for GNU/Linux, and you claim there is NONE? LOL
[22:35] <wallshot> it doesn't take ./exec
[22:35] <wallshot> vulnerabilities are everywhere
[22:35] <cabrey> wow, I thought the OPs were better than this
[22:36]  * Drknezz ignores the flameboy
[22:36] <Cry__Baby> Drknezz, notice how you get abusive now, because you were proven to be a liar and ignorant lol
[22:36] <bazhang> Cry__Baby, please chat in #ubuntu-offtopic thanks
[22:36] <deany> Cry__Baby, since we get our programs from the repos, no they are not a threat
[22:36] <jimmyjh> Cry__Baby:  that was over 10 years ago and linux is still the most secure os
[22:36] <Ricochet> DasEi: Ok the login screen is back
 Cry__Baby, since we get our programs from the repos, no they are not a threat <--- thats why I only use repos, yes
[22:36] <Drknezz> Though there ARE viruses, nearly no virus can succeed on a large scale
[22:36] <wallshot> jimmyjh: that's just stupid
[22:36] <badfish69> both the windows and ubuntu imagewriter keep leaving me with an empty thumb drive when trying to make a bootable unr stick, even though the write process seems to complete successfully
[22:36] <wallshot> why would you say linux is -the most secure os-
[22:36] <mae^> are there any resources for reading up on casper? i'd like to know more about how it works, how to compile it in to initrd, etc..
[22:36] <DasEi> Ricochet: terminal ..
[22:36] <deany> Cry__Baby, we aint all windows users looking for cracks and hacks to programs
[22:36] <Drknezz> Thanks to updates
[22:36] <sebsebseb> jimmyjh: well one of them depending on distro and so on,  but  OpenBSD is apparnatly the most secure
[22:36] <wallshot> why not openbsd, with even smaller userbase and less people attempting to break in?
[22:36] <Ricochet> DasEi: done.
[22:37] <texasjack> DasEi, can you, _please_ take a look here, http://pastebin.com/f3ef0d872 at the lines#: 37-39, 49 (at the end), and 216-241 about my mouse? Now I have some doubts... The scroll is with a strange behaviour, it's 'cause those lines? My xorg.conf: http://pastebin.com/f8a65846
 Though there ARE viruses <-- You just contradicted yourself.. before you said there are NO virus, now you admit there are :)  Case closed.
[22:37] <Divinity> ok I think it's done now in terminal I am back at david@ubuntu:~$ that mean's it is done right?
[22:37] <glandon> edbian when i click on find it says eglandon's remote desktop on (computer name), eglandon being my account on the computer, but when i tell it ok it just sits there im going to try it from my desktop to my laptop and see how long it will take it to access it
[22:37] <wallshot> linux traditionally is NOT the most secure due to its fast development pace and eagerness to grab up new technology and package new tools
[22:37] <Shortguy109> tj83, how do i export the project? sorry i've never edited before :o
[22:37] <deany> thank you for that..
[22:37] <bazhang> please take chat about viruses to #ubuntu-offtopic thanks
[22:38] <ircnickiuse> 9.04, enable PAE, get
[22:38] <DasEi> texasjack: paste /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[22:38] <binskipy2u> anyone in here using remastersys.. if so, should you disable compiz/effects and uninstall proprietary vid drivers before making the remaster
[22:38] <edbian> glandon: It might take a while especially if you are on wireless.  Give it some time.  If there are no errors assume it is working.  Unfortunately I have to go now.  Sorry I couldn't help more!
[22:38] <Ricochet> DasEi: ready.
[22:38] <binskipy2u> or just set up everything you want, then just use remastersys as is
[22:38] <texasjack> DasEi, my xorg.conf: http://pastebin.com/f8a65846
[22:38] <kerebrus> Hello, what would cause this error message: Signal: SIGSEGV [segmentation fault  Aborting.
[22:38] <jimmyjh> Cry__Baby:  you can worry but it isnt happening , and hasnt, its possible to make a virus for any os but linux is evolving and 10 years ago the kernel today is very far from it 10 years ago
[22:38] <cabrey> jimmyjh, stop, here isn't here any more
[22:38] <sonium> hrm.. my mouse behaves like I'm beeing hacked
[22:38] <bazhang> jimmyjh, he/she is gone
[22:39] <Divinity> my favorite thing is how ubuntu configuredmy wireless acess I didnt have to do anything
[22:39] <wallshot> i had to type in my wep key
[22:39] <wallshot> it was reaaaaaaaaaally easy
[22:39] <sonium> is there a way I can check if there might someone control my mouse?
[22:39] <Divinity> I had to type my passphrase but that's it
[22:39] <sebsebseb> Divinity: that's great considering that wireless dosn't work just like that for everyone in Ubuntu at this time
[22:40] <jimmyjh> cabrey:  ok, hey again   you helped me solve a problem not long ago
[22:40] <nVEe> All: I am very new to Linux, and our company is moving over to Open source because of obvious financial implications and our industry resolves around Linux (actually PHP, were a web development company)
[22:40] <nVEe> all: we were advised to use debian for our server and ubuntu for our desktop machines because it is the most user friendly version for windows users
[22:40] <nVEe> all: keeping this in mind and knowing we're a web developmetn company, is there any other solution you would rather recommend?
[22:40] <DasEi> Ricochet:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/193786/
[22:40] <Divinity> kel the jave plugin I need was for pogo and now I can play
[22:40] <sebsebseb> nVEe: well Ubuntu can be used as a server as well, but Debian and such are more likely to be used
[22:40] <Divinity> kewl*
[22:41] <cabrey> jimmyjh, i did? jeez there really are too many people in here... most irc channels are slow and quiet
[22:41] <uriol> hiro, i have a problem with the clock, i changed a line in menu.lst to set clocksource to hpet, but when i restart it continues to charge the tsc which is unstable
[22:41] <wallshot> i'm a fan of FreeBSD, which i feel is userfriendly enough if you know how to use a commandline, but it doesn't support as wide a variety of hardware as linux
[22:41] <jimmyjh> cabrey:  yea for over 1k ppl not many really active
[22:41] <wallshot> ubuntu though obviously blows it away as far as easy-to-figure-out gui tools without needing to configure stuff with vi or install stuff via commandline
[22:41] <sebsebseb> nVEe: user  friendly is one of those words, what does user friendly really mean.   Is  Windows user friendly?  not quite, it's just what people know.      saying that there are quite a few other distros that would fit in to your definition of user friendly,  but  Ubuntu is a good first distro for many people.
[22:41] <jimmyjh> cabrey:  yea you did help me yesterday i believe lol
[22:41] <texasjack> DasEi, I have to delete the keyboard and mouse sections?
[22:42] <soulfreshner> help - I had some problems running a game in wine, so I tried uninstalling the game, uninstalling wine
[22:42] <naoko> ok if i was to buy a new laptop to install ubuntu should i get intell or amd what better with ubuntu
[22:42] <uriol> oriol@oriol-escriptori:~$ dmesg | grep -i clocksource
[22:42] <uriol> [   82.000024] Clocksource tsc unstable (delta = -291051455 ns)
[22:42] <wallshot> sebsebseb: exactly!  like i feel 2 commandlines is more userfriendly than a dozen and a half points and clicks through a half a dozen windows
[22:42] <soulfreshner> then I deleted the game from the gnome menu
[22:42] <Ricochet> DasEi: Is that for my xorg.conf?
[22:42] <jimmyjh> naoko:  the processor is ultimately up to you
[22:42] <sebsebseb> wallshot: indeed, when know how to use
[22:42] <DasEi> texasjack:  I think so, gimme few minutes
[22:42] <sebsebseb> wallshot: a lot of time will be saved on commandline
[22:42] <soulfreshner> now even after reinstalling wine, it doesn't put anything on the menu :(
[22:42] <texasjack> DasEi, sorry... =S
[22:42] <Ricochet> DasEi: do i do the gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf thing?
[22:42] <wallshot> at this point, almost all modern OS's handle intel and amd equally well
[22:42] <soulfreshner> the wine menu is gone
[22:42] <DasEi> Ricochet:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/193786/ , instert,save,close
[22:43] <soulfreshner> how do I get it back?
[22:43] <wallshot> whether its linux, bsd, opensolaris, etc
[22:43] <naoko> ya but it seems amd never workd for the desktop so that y i asked for laptop
[22:43] <cabrey> naoko, amd is fine for the desktop
[22:43] <errors-FoFo> hi
[22:43] <uriol> somebody can help me ?
[22:43] <uriol> please ?
[22:43] <Ricochet> DasEi: But thats for the xorg.conf right? You didnt tell me where to put that...
[22:43] <wallshot> i had an amd desktop, back when they were trying to make up for k6-2's shitty floating point calculation rates with 3dnow technology
[22:43] <texasjack> soulfreshner, Preferences / Main Menu... Activate it there. If it's not there you have to install it again.
[22:43] <sebsebseb> !intel |  naoko
[22:44] <kerebrus> soulfreshner: open terminal and type wine and tell me what it says
[22:44] <naoko> ya but my desktop doesent run it
[22:44] <jimmyjh> naoko:  yes amd is just fine i plan on getting a quad core phenom 2 anyday now :D
[22:44] <DasEi> Ricochet: yes
[22:44] <Joshua_Mayer> Hey!
[22:44] <sebsebseb> !ask |  uriol
[22:44] <errors-FoFo> im having some problem on the enemy territory
[22:44] <errors-FoFo> i cant take ss on the game
[22:44] <errors-FoFo> :S
[22:44] <soulfreshner> kerebrus, Usage: wine PROGRAM [ARGUMENTS...]
[22:44] <Ricochet> DasEi: Do I delete anything or just put it at the bottom?
[22:44] <sebsebseb> Joshua_Mayer: hi
[22:44] <soulfreshner> texasjack, even after reinstalling - it's not on the menu
[22:45] <kerebrus> soulfreshner: go to system -> preferences -> mainmenu and see if its listed in there
[22:45] <uriol> I have a problem with the clocksource, i tried to change a line in menu.lst to change the clocksource from tsc to hpet, but it continues to charge the tsc unstable when i reboot
[22:45] <ircnickiuse> how can I enable PAE in the kernel?!? <--- plus that question
[22:45] <soulfreshner> texasjack, it doesn't show up on the list
[22:45] <texasjack> soulfreshner, take a look at "Preferences -> Main Menu."  Activate it there...
[22:45] <DasEi> Ricochet: delte whole content and insertthe paste
[22:45] <ircnickiuse> 8gb on 32bit system - can I compile in PAE support?
[22:45] <errors-FoFo> ii've allready give it permission to write but it wont work
[22:45] <errors-FoFo> i dont know why
[22:45] <errors-FoFo> can someone help me pls?
[22:45] <soulfreshner> it's not on that list (prefs->Main menu)
[22:46] <ircnickiuse> ++ why isn't it already compiled in? (since it is 2009)
[22:46] <soulfreshner> it's not there
[22:46] <texasjack> soulfreshner, hummm...
[22:46] <DasEi> texasjack:  do you use a 5 button mouse ?
[22:46] <texasjack> soulfreshner, try the command line... =)
[22:46] <Ricochet> DasEi: Should it end in EndSectio? or EndSection? because right now there is no "n"
[22:46] <kerebrus> soulfreshner: how did you reinstall it?
[22:46] <texasjack> DasEi, 3 buttons. 4+5 are for scroll wheel.
[22:47] <soulfreshner> apt-get remove to remove it
[22:47] <DasEi> Ricochet: add the n
[22:47] <soulfreshner> then i deleted from the menu using prefs->main menu
[22:47] <helo> my clock keeps cycling through the same 5 seconds over and over again
[22:47] <helo> and many apps are unreliable or won't start at all
[22:47] <soulfreshner> then deleted ~/.wine
[22:47] <soulfreshner> then apt-get install wine
[22:47] <DasEi> texasjack: sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf_backup
[22:48] <texasjack> DasEi, it's already backed up.... =)
[22:48] <Ricochet> DasEi: Saved and exited
[22:48] <Divinity> thank's for the help
[22:49] <texasjack> soulfreshner, you deleted it from "Preferences -> Main Menu"?
[22:49] <DasEi> Ricochet: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[22:49] <ircnickiuse> with PAE I can see 8gb of ram right? (not just 4) on a 32 bit system
[22:49] <soulfreshner> yes, texasjack
[22:49] <jimmyjh> wallshot: freebsd is good too, when i meant linux i should had said most i should had said one of the most
[22:49] <Mekkis> ircnickiuse, yes
[22:50] <texasjack> soulfreshner, why?!
[22:50] <soulfreshner> only after uninstalling
[22:50] <cabrey> ircnickiuse, you should but why not use 64 bit?
[22:50] <DasEi> texasjack: which version do you run ? intrepid ?
[22:50] <texasjack> DasEi, Jaunty... 9.04
[22:50] <DasEi> !version
[22:50] <Ricochet> DasEi: Ok, back to the DOS prompt
[22:50] <ke-_-vin> hello guys, when boot under jaunty, it showed 'IO APIC cannot be allocated', anybody has an idea how to fix that?
[22:50] <ircnickiuse> Mekkis, that is awesome. Now I need a time machine to travel into the future when ubuntu enables this by default. When do you think that will be? perhap in 2020 when people are installing 500gb systems by default
[22:50] <Mekkis> ircnickiuse, you mean it doesn't?
[22:50] <jimmyjh> cabrey:  i only got 1 issue with 64 bit,,, the flash 64 bit is still funky :P
[22:50] <jimmyjh> haha
[22:51]  * Mekkis uses SuSE on his machine with 6GB of RAM
[22:51] <cabrey> jimmyjh, i assume you have the 64 bit alpha?
[22:51] <cabrey> Mekkis, ew
[22:51] <cabrey> :P
[22:51] <carpii> is there a nice graphical client for git ?
[22:52] <DasEi> texasjack:give it a try : http://paste.ubuntu.com/193798/
[22:52] <glandon> ok screw getting remote desktop to work on my laptop anyone able to find a way to get 3d graphics out of a black listed ATI Radeon mobility 5700
[22:52] <elli222> remove it from the blacklist...
[22:52] <Mekkis> ircnickiuse, in that case, PAE wouldn't be useful: it only gives you a 36-bit address bus, good for 64GB of addressable RAM
[22:52] <Ricochet> DasEi: so now i am back to the DOS prompt..
[22:52] <ircnickiuse> Mekkis, well, it looks like ubuntu had better enable it before 2020 then
[22:52] <jimmyjh> cabrey:  i used 64 bit alot but the issue is when for example open up firefox, "firefox" and then open another firefox window and open up another flash video half the time the video blacks out and reloading firefox does the trick
[22:52] <cabrey> ircnickiuse, there might be a precompiled ubuntu pae kernel
[22:52] <ircnickiuse> like. in 2009. when people are putting in 4gb as a baseline now
[22:53] <DasEi> Ricochet: sudo apt-get install hwinfo
[22:53] <helo> carpii: i don't think there is one that implements more than a small fraction of the command line functionality
[22:53] <kerebrus> Anyone know what Signal: "SIGSEGV [segmentation fault] Aborting." means?
[22:53] <errors-FoFo> can some one help me pls?
[22:53] <ircnickiuse> cabrey, if so, can you walk around to my hosting company and shoot them in the face? thanks
[22:53] <helo> carpii: if you want to really use git, you should learn the console tools
[22:53] <Mekkis> kerebrus, it means the application accessed memory it isn't allowed to
[22:53] <texasjack> DasEi, OK. You just commented all the mouse references?  I'll try this... THANK YOU.
[22:53] <soulfreshner> why doesn't wine add itself to the menu when I install it again?
[22:53] <elli222> Means the app you were using got a segfault...
[22:53] <DasEi> Ricochet: sudhwinfo | pastebinti
[22:53] <cabrey> ircnickiuse, haha why?
[22:53] <carpii> yeah i know the tools, but a gfx client is always nicer :(
[22:53] <ircnickiuse> cabrey, because they are twats
[22:53] <DasEi> Ricochet: sudhwinfo | pastebint     *
[22:53] <glandon> ﻿elli222: its black listed because ATI doesnt support linux drivers for the R100 chip
[22:53] <jimmyjh> cabrey: i didnt mean to quote ff haha i hit paste
[22:53] <ircnickiuse> sudo apt-get install linux-headers-server linux-image-server linux-server << that is supposed to install PAE?
[22:53] <DasEi> Ricochet: sudo hwinfo | pastebint     **
[22:53] <kerebrus> Mekkis: is there a way to fix it?
[22:54] <cabrey> ircnickiuse, http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=7159405&postcount=3
[22:54] <Mekkis> kerebrus, did you write it?
[22:54] <ircnickiuse> cabrey, http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/ubuntu-linux-4gb-ram-limitation-solution/
[22:54] <bambu> hi. is there a way to upgrade from regular ubuntu to ubuntu studio without reinstalling?
[22:54] <sebsebseb> bambu: you can install Ubuntu studio into a normal Ubuntu install
[22:54] <uriol> sebsebseb, have you read my question ?
[22:54] <kerebrus> Mekkis: no its a game under linux
[22:54] <sebsebseb> !studio |  bambu
[22:55] <jimmyjh> cabrey: sometimes i leave youtube tab or dropped window and watch a video at hulu or visit a website with flash, and poof it goes black
[22:55] <Ricochet> DasEi: While installing hwinfo it says that it could not resolve "us.archive.ubuntu.com"
[22:55] <bazhang> bambu, install ubuntustudio-desktop
[22:55] <Mekkis> kerebrus, it's a result of a programming error.  You can file a bug report if you want to...
[22:55] <uriol> I have a problem with the clocksource, i tried to change a line in menu.lst to change the clocksource from tsc to hpet, but it continues to charge the tsc unstable when i reboot
[22:55] <ircnickiuse> > No, it's not enabled in the normal kernel. Use the server kernel if you want PAE without compiling the kernel yourself. SOMEBODY please tell me there is a really really good reason, like PAE really really sucks, as to why the desktop version isn't PAE by default
[22:55] <cabrey> jimmyjh, thats annoying, have you tried another browseR?
[22:55] <elli222> kerebrus, is it freedroid by any chance?
[22:55] <Ricochet> DasEi: and unable to fetch some archives
[22:55] <sebsebseb> uriol: yeah and what about it?
[22:55] <DasEi> Ricochet: sudo ping google.com
[22:55] <uriol> how can i charge the hpet clocksource ?
[22:56] <DasEi> Ricochet: network up ?
[22:56] <sebsebseb> bambu: sudo aptitude install  ubuntustudio-desktop that will do it
[22:56] <jimmyjh> cabrey: i wanted to try opera to see if it does the same but i have not,, and currently i put back on 32bit and i have 4gigs so im missing 1 so wish i could use 64
[22:56] <Mekkis> ircnickiuse, no idea: I've been using a PAE kernel for the last year with no trouble...
[22:56] <Ricochet> DasEi: Unknown host
[22:56] <ircnickiuse> the link I saw says "sudo apt-get install linux-headers-server linux-image-server linux-server" will enable PAE.... doesn't seem right
[22:56] <kerebrus> elli222: no its ut2004
[22:56] <cabrey> jimmyjh, it is the server kenel
[22:56] <cabrey> kernel*
[22:56] <ircnickiuse> Mekkis, can you give ANY conceivable excuse for ubuntu not shipping with PAE?
[22:56] <elli222> kerebus, install the libstdc5 package!
[22:56] <DasEi> Ricochet: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[22:56] <cabrey> ircnickiuse, oops see above
[22:56] <Ricochet> DasEi: Yeah my network is up, i am on wireless though.. does that make a difference?
[22:57] <ircnickiuse> cabrey, oh yeah, lol
[22:57] <Mekkis> ircnickiuse, no, I can't
[22:57] <cabrey> jimmyjh, this link also applies to you then: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=7159405&postcount=3 for PAE
[22:57] <glandon> ok does anyone know any open source drivers that will utillize the 3d rendering capabilities of the ATI radeon mobility 5700 (its the R100 chip)
[22:57] <DasEi> Ricochet: sudo apt-get install hwinfo
[22:57] <raylu> glandon: lol, there are none
[22:57] <rla_> can someone help me install bitchx .. i can't seem to find the package anywhere
[22:57] <Ricochet> DasEi: it said the same thing
[22:57] <rla_> i've uncommented all the repo's in sources.list and updated already
[22:57] <ircnickiuse> so, ubuntu, man the fusk up and differentiate between that fail of a system windows with no activation, clean install and language support, PAE support etc.
[22:57] <elli222> glandon, i doubt such drivers exist...
[22:58] <Mekkis> glandon, I believe the open-source radeon does
[22:58] <Flannel> rla_: That's because it's not in the repositories.  It's unsupported upstream and has a few major exploits that are unpatched.
[22:58] <rla_> oh bleah
[22:58] <Ricochet> DasEi: Failure to fetch, and can not resolve
[22:58] <rla_> weak.. whats the client people are using now a days?
[22:58] <texasjack> DasEi, and what about this: "(--) PCI:*(0@1:0:0) nVidia Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 5200] rev 161, Mem @ 0xfd000000/16777216, 0xe0000000/134217728, BIOS @ 0x????????/131072"  My GeForce BIOS is messed up?
[22:58] <Sikelik> rla: sudo apt-get install pork should work i think
[22:58] <raylu> rla_: irssi :D
[22:58] <glandon> raylu: but ive heard of people getting compiz fusion to work on this graphics card
[22:58] <david__> hey gang, user here has lost his gnome panel...how do we get it back?
[22:58] <jimmyjh> cabrey:  so basically i have to reinstall server and get gnome desktop and such?
[22:58] <Mekkis> glandon, according to radeon's man page, it supports the R100 (listed as Radeon 7200)
[22:58] <raylu> glandon: right. they didn't use the open-source drivers
[22:59] <cabrey> jimmyjh, no, just install the server kernel
[22:59] <DasEi> texasjack: is your mouse working now ?
[22:59] <rla_> ok brb.. epic4 is ick
[22:59] <cabrey> jimmyjh, it has PAE support built in
[22:59] <raylu> !panel | david__
[22:59] <texasjack> I have to log out... Just a minute....
[22:59] <raylu> o.0
[22:59] <jimmyjh> cabrey:  wonder if it has any more advantages as well?
[22:59] <Neconide> Okay so sometimes flashplugin-nonfree wont work... flash content (.swf) in firefox won't load, or says I need to install flash. This randomly happens randomly when I have more than one tab opened with flash content on the page. I'm running ubuntu 8.10 and I have an amd processor
[22:59] <jimmyjh> cabrey: ok
[22:59] <raylu> jimmyjh: it has the disadvantage of being tuned for thoroughput instead of latency, i believe
[22:59] <glandon> mekkis: hmm thanks i will have to try installing that one from ATIs website
[23:00] <Neconide> the only solution i have is sudo apt-get remove flashplugin-nonfree | sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[23:00] <Ricochet> DasEi: I restored the network and it still didnt fetch them..
[23:00] <raylu> Neconide: 64-bit?
[23:00] <jrib> ircnickiuse: iirc, nvidia drivers don't play nice with pae.  Why not use 64 bit if you need to use 4+gb of ram on a desktop?
[23:00] <Neconide> raylu: yep
[23:00] <sharperguy> How do I find out the /dev/ location of a volume?
[23:00] <rla_> much better.. lack of ansi is ick
[23:00] <quentusrex> I'm using 9.04 and there is a leak somewhere that is driving me crazy.
[23:00] <nVEe> When I try to download SERVER LTS it by default selects the AMD64 version to download, but I want to download the i386 version, is there an alternative link?
[23:00] <raylu> Neconide: same issue here. first, instead of remove/install, there is reinstall
[23:00] <cabrey> jrib, wondering the same thing
[23:00] <david__> !ati
[23:00] <raylu> Neconide: and second, i find that restarting firefox fixes the issue
[23:00] <ircnickiuse> jrib, I didn't know there was a work around for the fail of an app skype (32bit)
[23:00] <bambu> install ubuntustudio-desktop didnt work
[23:00] <Neconide> raylu: sometimes it doesn't for me
[23:00] <DasEi> Ricochet: sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.working /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[23:00] <quentusrex> It uses up all my ram, and it isn't the caching feature. My computer starts to swap applications, and other stuff crashes.
[23:00] <cabrey> ircnickiuse, 32 bit apps can still run in 64 bit environments
[23:01] <Neconide> raylu: Sometimes that will work, but sometimes it completely craps out and i need to reinstall
[23:01] <jrib> ircnickiuse: huh?  Are you a bot?
[23:01] <DasEi> Ricochet: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm  restart
[23:01] <david__> anyone else know how to restore the gnome panel?
[23:01] <Cry__Baby> david__, what do you mean?
[23:01] <sebsebseb> !panel | david__
[23:01] <raylu> lol
[23:01] <sebsebseb> !panels | david__
[23:01] <sebsebseb> !lol | raylu
[23:01] <ircnickiuse> jrib, why would you think that? (no really, what did I say / do)
[23:01] <david__> hold on
[23:01] <jrib> ircnickiuse: I don't see how your response is related at all to what I said
[23:01] <raylu> sebsebseb: it was funny because i tried the exact same thing
[23:02] <bambu> it says "missing destination file operand after 'ubuntustudio-desktop' "
[23:02] <sebsebseb> raylu: I didn't see you
[23:02] <DasEi> Ricochet: can you browse from within the desktop?
[23:02] <ircnickiuse> jrib: Why not use 64 bit if you need to use 4+gb of ram on a desktop? ircnickiuse: because skype sucks
[23:02] <Ricochet> DasEi: back to login screen
[23:02] <Neconide> raylu: So there's no solution? :(
[23:02] <nVEe> can I install the amd64 on a i386 machine, ?
[23:02] <DasEi> Ricochet: can you browse from within the desktop?
[23:02] <nVEe> server edition
[23:02] <ircnickiuse> seems like I pass the turing test
[23:02] <jrib> ircnickiuse: right, skype sucks so use something else
[23:02] <raylu> Neconide: not that i know of. you can try installing the plugin manually
[23:02] <nVEe> when I try to download it, it by defaults download the amd64
[23:02] <Ricochet> DasEi: Yes
[23:02] <sebsebseb> raylu: it's stupid that one,  really I think both !panel and !panels should trigger it
[23:02] <nVEe> im running a xeon CPU
[23:02] <jrib> nVEe: use us.releases.ubuntu.com
[23:02] <raylu> sebsebseb: agreed
[23:02] <DasEi> Ricochet: sudo apt-get install hwinfo
[23:03] <Mekkis> ircnickiuse, I can think of one reason why you'd want PAE on a 32-bit system, rather than using a 64-bit system
[23:03] <ircnickiuse> jrib: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_VoIP_apps_that_support_Skype_credits
[23:03] <ircnickiuse> refer to that page
[23:03] <Neconide> raylu: Also, whenever i pull firefox up from the taskbar its in a fullscreen mode, but not f11. i need to press f11 to put it into fullscreen and press f11 again to take it out of fullscreen for the top & bottom taskbars to be displayed.
[23:03] <Mekkis> ircnickiuse, are you trying to compile wine from source and stuff like that?
[23:03] <ircnickiuse> Mekkis, ? what?
[23:03] <jrib> !skype > ircnickiuse
[23:03] <DasEi> Ricochet: sudo hwinfo | pastebinit
[23:03] <jrib> ircnickiuse: that page suggests you can get skype to work on amd64
[23:03] <Ricochet> DasEi: ok it worked this time
[23:03] <raylu> Neconide: that's strange. i don't have the option of minimizing in my window manager, though, so i can't help you with that. are you using compiz by any chance?
[23:03] <bambu> it says "missing destination file operand after 'ubuntustudio-desktop' "
[23:04] <ircnickiuse> jrib, skype works, thanks. PAE doesn't. you aren't making sense
[23:04] <bambu> when i try to install
[23:04] <Neconide> raylu: Yes
[23:04] <Trentor_> nVEe, try looking in one of the ftp directories for ubuntu
[23:04] <ircnickiuse> jrib, did you check that wikipedia page?
[23:04] <raylu> Neconide: i'd try it with metacity/effects off
[23:04] <jrib> ircnickiuse: you brought up skype, not me.
[23:04] <nVEe> jrib: Which is the best version to download for the server? The LTS or the latest version?
[23:04] <texasjack> DasEi, yep. Now it's much better. The scroll wheel don't stay 'repeating'... It was like up = up*2... Now its up = up. Thank you for your patience and attention...
[23:04] <DasEi> Ricochet: it's possible cause the wifi gets loaded after xorg
[23:04] <ircnickiuse> jrib, I know, I saw that after I went back to 32bit
[23:04] <cabrey> ircnickiuse, a guide for installing skype on 64 bit: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=432295
[23:04] <cabrey> its possible
[23:04] <Trentor_> nVee, depends what kind of suport you want
[23:04] <deany> !best | nVEe
[23:04] <ircnickiuse> jrib, yes, I know I did... skype is the reason I am not using 64bit...
[23:04] <jrib> nVEe: I use LTS on the server unless you don't mind updating every 6 months
[23:04] <Neconide> raylu: and sometimes, the titlebar with the exit, minimize, and maximize bar will dissapear until i hover over one of the buttons a few times.
[23:04] <sweetde> hey does anyone know a simple command line tool to test basic network connectivity based on a specific port?
[23:04] <ircnickiuse> cabrey, thanks, I saw that... after I reimaged
[23:04] <sweetde> like ping, but with a port connection
[23:04] <Neconide> raylu: All these bugs are beginning to piss me off -_-
[23:05] <DasEi> texasjack: np, if you got no issues in graphics, can ignore xorg.0.log often
[23:05] <Ricochet> DasEi: http://pastebin.com/f1b2ca03
[23:05] <jrib> ircnickiuse: yes.  So now I have just linked you to a page that tells you you can use skype on amd64...
[23:05] <raylu> Trentor_, DasEi: dpkg --configure -a is correct
[23:05] <jrib> ircnickiuse: what is your current question?
[23:06] <ircnickiuse> jrib, which I already told you I knew about after switching back to 32bit, and then realising I need a PAE kernel, which you then said, why don't you use 64bit, and I said skype, and you said, you can install it on 64bit, and I said, I know, but I didn't knwo before I went back to 32bit, and you said, why are you talking abotu skype, adn I said, because I want to use it, and you said, why not use 64bit, and I said, I did, and you said ... you see,
[23:06] <ircnickiuse> we could be here all day
[23:06] <Trentor_> Thank you!!!!
[23:06] <ircnickiuse> you're welcome
[23:06] <jrib> ircnickiuse: reread the first thing I told you
[23:07] <ircnickiuse> jrib, ditto, I've installed PAE now, all is good
[23:07] <jrib> ircnickiuse: k
[23:07] <Trentor_> ircnickiuse: not you, lol
[23:07] <Neconide> raylu: Oh now I have myself in quite a situation...
[23:07] <cabrey> ircnickiuse, you have rebooted already?
[23:07] <Neconide> raylu: Whenever I exit compiz from the terminal (cntrl+c) my screen gets all fucked up and i cant switch windows or anything until I restart compiz (by typing compiz)
[23:07] <bambu> hi. how do i upgrade from regular ubuntu to ubuntu studio? just download from website?
[23:07] <texasjack> No issues... I just loose some fps when testing with 'glxgears'. Initial Ubuntu plus some sethings that I inserted in xorg.conf, give me 1160 FPS... Now it's about 850~900...  But i think it's 'cause the resolution: before I was testing in 1152x864x24, now I'm at 1280x960x24.
[23:08] <cabrey> bambu, sudo apt-get install ubuntustudio-desktop
[23:08] <ircnickiuse> yes
[23:08] <texasjack> DasEi....
[23:08] <Neconide> raylu: I was expecting it to fork...
[23:08] <ircnickiuse> cabrey - yes, total 8068 on free -m
[23:08] <raylu> Neconide: metacity --replace
[23:08] <sebsebseb> cabrey and bambu well aptitude may be  better for the bigger stuff
[23:08]  * ircnickiuse sets topic for #ubuntu to "PAE FTW, LOL SKYPE SUCKS"
[23:08] <Ricochet> DasEi: did you get that last link?
[23:09] <cabrey> ircnickiuse, make sure all your hardware works. there is no reason it shouldn't, but just in case
[23:09] <bishop> joining
[23:10] <ircnickiuse> cabrey, same machine has run 64bit server kernel before...just a few hours ago
[23:10] <burkmat> After noticing a memleak on my old box I reinstalled with a fresh 8.04.1 Server x64 to get rid of it, only to find it reappear now... Any suggestions on how to track it down / eliminate it?
[23:11] <Neconide> raylu: That crashed the kernal somehow o_o
[23:11] <DasEi> Ricochet: yes, I'm searching, though it's a 1602, either the tut is wrong or it's cause you own et1602, gotta search a little
[23:11] <raylu> Neconide: *kernel? how?
[23:11] <raylu> Neconide: *how do you know it was a kernel panic?
[23:12] <Neconide> raylu: well the last time the kernel was being an ass all cli+gui died then ubuntu went into full cli and rebooted my pc lol
[23:12] <Neconide> raylu: same thing happened
[23:12] <raylu> Neconide: er, that's not a kernel panic
[23:12] <raylu> Neconide: that sounds like X crashing
[23:12] <doglino> HOw I know if a file is a hard link?
[23:12] <nsahoo> where is a good place to get ubuntu themed dual monitor wallpapers?
[23:12] <Ricochet> DasEi: By the way.. just FYI when I touch the screen it acts like I am clicking the mouse.. it wont move to where my finger is pressed but wherever the mouse is at the time that I press the screen, it will click there
[23:12] <Neconide> raylu: I guess I don't know the difference then.
[23:13] <sebsebseb> nsahoo: don't think there is anywhere as such
[23:13] <sebsebseb> !themes > nsahoo
[23:13] <alessio> velo dipinto
[23:13] <Neconide> raylu: what would kernal panic look like
[23:13] <Ricochet> DasEi: It shouldnt be because of the eee top, because others have gotten the resolution working.. i did send you that link right? well just take your time and let me know.. thanks for your help btw
[23:13] <Neconide> raylu: or would it look like anything at all lol
[23:13] <alessio> alessio
[23:13] <raylu> Neconide: *kernel
[23:13] <sebsebseb> sebsebseb
[23:13] <raylu> Neconide: usually, capslock and numlock flash
[23:13] <alessio> send velo dipinto
[23:14] <raylu> !it | alessio
[23:14] <Neconide> raylu: I don't have any caps lock/numlock light indicators on this keyboard
[23:14]  * TheJohn is back (gone 00:00:44)
[23:14] <nsahoo> is ubottu a bot?
[23:14] <raylu> Neconide: also, generally, your system freezes. it doesn't kill X or anything and you're forced to hard reset
[23:14] <raylu> nsahoo: obviously
[23:14]  * TheJohn is away: BBL AGAIN. Time for a break off my computer.
[23:14] <sebsebseb> !away >  TheJohn
[23:14] <Neconide> raylu: Ah
[23:14] <nsahoo> raylu: how obvious?
[23:15] <sebsebseb> !bot |  nsahoo
[23:15] <alessio> hello
[23:15] <DasEi> Ricochet: yes, I followed that link, but obviously it's not working, found a tag from march18th this year saying you have to compile the video driver, searching..
[23:15] <Neconide> raylu: thanks for the info, gonna play around with compiz a bit and see if I can fix any of the issues.
[23:15] <david__> sebsebseb: thank you very much for your help; it worked and the panel's back
[23:15] <nsahoo> ubttou is creepy
[23:15] <iron_man_ftw> Hm, what are the chances of a person losing Windows that's never installed Ubuntu?
[23:15] <sebsebseb> david__: good :)
[23:15] <raylu> Neconide: i still think you should just turn effects off
[23:15] <cabrey> nsahoo, he is very helpful
[23:15] <david__> ttyl
[23:15] <nsahoo> cabrey: is it a he or she
[23:15] <sebsebseb> !thanks |  nsahoo
[23:15] <Neconide> raylu: is there a way to do that from cli, i dont feel like looking through the settings manager lol
[23:15] <nsahoo> !m/f
[23:16] <alessio> send
[23:16] <cabrey> nsahoo, his name sounds masculine, so male it is [for me at least]
[23:16] <raylu> Neconide: it's simple. system > prefs > visual effects > none
[23:16] <sebsebseb> !love > nsahoo
[23:16] <raylu> Neconide: though the way to do it in the cli would have been metacity --replace
[23:16] <Ricochet> DasEi: I have no idea what that means.. but it sounds scary.
[23:16] <Neconide> raylu: but that opens up a required (possibly child) process constant in the terminal
[23:17] <nsahoo> gee .. i am out a here .. and thanks for all the creep ..
[23:17] <raylu> Neconide: put & at the end
[23:17] <TheJohn> umm
[23:17] <TheJohn> whoever told me to turn off my away message thing
[23:17] <TheJohn> piss off
[23:17] <Neconide> raylu: Okay
[23:17] <TheJohn> IT WAS ONE LINE
[23:17] <TheJohn> :p
[23:17] <FloodBot1> TheJohn: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:17] <raylu> Neconide: or, if you forget the &, ctrl+z, then type bg
[23:17] <jrib> TheJohn: hi
[23:17] <TheJohn> hi
[23:17] <raylu> TheJohn: if everyone were to spam lines like that, it'd be annoying
[23:17] <TheJohn> and bye
[23:17] <TheJohn> :P
[23:17] <grkblood13> does anyone here have expericne with shoutcast
[23:17] <TheJohn> bbl
[23:17] <sebsebseb> TheJohn: it was more than one line
[23:17] <FloodBot1> TheJohn: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:17] <Neconide> raylu: it happened again... still... lol
[23:17] <raylu> TheJohn: also, they're useless, so they're still spam
[23:17] <Neconide> raylu: metacity --replace &
[23:17] <sebsebseb> TheJohn: and I thought I would  get the bot to tell you since the ops weren't here
[23:18] <raylu> Neconide: so, like i said, do it from the menu
[23:18] <Neconide> raylu: but now I either need to leave this terminal open until I log out/reboot -- and I dont feel like reconnecting to 10 irc servers again lol
[23:18] <raylu> Neconide: why?
[23:19] <Neconide> raylu: If I close it, X crashes
[23:19] <raylu> Neconide: ctrl+z, then bg
[23:19] <Neconide> raylu: It's not forked.
[23:19] <Neconide> raylu: bg?
[23:19] <raylu> Neconide: it tells a backgrounded process to run
[23:19] <TheJohn> hm
[23:19] <raylu> give focus to the terminal running metacity before using ctrl+z
[23:20] <ircnickiuse> I unloaded pulseaudio to use alsa, and modprobe snd_dummy - everything worked fine - problem now is, after restart it doesn't load snd_dummy :-/
[23:20] <ircnickiuse> it shows in sound prefs, but mixer says couldn't load anything - any ideas?
[23:21] <boscop> after creating a link with "sudo ln -T ./libIl.so.1.1.0 ./libIl.so -s" nautilus always crashes when I try to go to /usr/lib
[23:23] <bishop> out beback
[23:24] <phol> asd
[23:26] <liamo1> How do you shut down a non-responsive application?
[23:26] <veritos> On 64-bit, ubuntu-restricted-extras installs the Sun JRE but the IcedTea plugin. A 64-bit Sun plugin exists; why isn't it used?
[23:26] <veritos> liamo1: Hit Alt-F2, type xkill , press enter. Click on the unresponsive program.
[23:27] <liamo1> thanks veritos
[23:27] <sara-> how to roll back to hardy heron?
[23:27] <veritos> sara-: I don't believe that that's supported, you'd probably have to reinstall
[23:27] <sebsebseb> !downgrade |  sara-
[23:28] <sebsebseb> sara-: which version are you currently on?  why do you want to go back to hardy?
[23:29] <mtllc22> good night, and run a disk check by ubuntu ntfs?
[23:29] <sara-> sebsebseb, im on 9.4 ? the latest and i dont have enoug ram
[23:29] <cdehaan> Hello! I'm wondering if anyone can tell me where the module 'sky2' comes from... is there someplace online with the latest src code, or is it something that's included with the kernel?
[23:29] <sara-> 150mb
[23:29] <sebsebseb> sara-: oh RAM
[23:29] <guest2> I'm trying to install to an old unused hard drive, but the installation program doesn't seem to acknowledge it.  Any advice?
[23:29] <sebsebseb> sara-: you only have 150MB RAM?
[23:29] <bypass> hey all
[23:29] <sebsebseb> sara-: what's the problem exactly?
[23:29] <sara-> sebsebseb, 150 mb RAM
[23:29] <DasEi> Ricochet: yeah, hurdes, you need intels ddx driver ver 2.7, which you have to compile from source, further : http://wiki.linuxmce.org/index.php/Asus_EeeTop
[23:30] <sara-> its slow
[23:30] <sebsebseb> sara-: there's a swap trick
[23:30] <veritos> guest2: Is there a /dev/sdb or whatever?
[23:30] <sebsebseb> sara-: computers with 128MB RAM probably won't even boot up the later Live CD's, unless a  512MB or so SWAP partition is already on there
[23:30] <mtllc22> good night, and run a disk check by ubuntu ntfs? ( excluse my inglish )
[23:30] <bypass> anyone no how i might be able to fix my wifi problem
[23:30] <sebsebseb> sara-: have you got a SWAP? How big is it?
[23:30] <sara-> sebsebseb, kk
[23:31] <DasEi> !fsck |  mtllc22
[23:31] <DasEi> Ricochet: still around?
[23:31] <sebsebseb> sara-: there are also distros such as Puppy Linux and Damn Small Linux which are specifically made for old hardware
[23:31] <sara-> sebastian_, i'll check
[23:31] <neodragon> I am using Jaunty on my main PC, has anyone else had a problem with the workspace switcher only showing you open apps in the "desk 1" panel even if you rotate the cube to the other desktops?
[23:32] <wallshot> DasEi: fsck supports ntfs? i don't see a fsck.ntfs
[23:32] <sara-> no this can go to 4gb
[23:32] <Ricochet> DasEi: Yes i am
[23:32] <wallshot> i've always booted up windows to do fsck on the ntfs system :/
[23:32] <sebsebseb> sara-: what can go to 4GB?
[23:32] <eipark> hi im using gparted to create a new partitio but it ownt let me make it NTFS
[23:32] <sara-> sebsebseb, this machine can have 4gb ram but when i got it they only had 150mb RAM
[23:32] <bypass> whats up all
[23:32] <DasEi> wallshot: no, itdoesnt,  but ntfsprogs do
[23:32] <sebsebseb> sara-: well that's weird
[23:33] <sebsebseb> sara-: are you sure it's 150MB?   it dosan't even sound like a standard RAM size to me
[23:33] <sara-> sebsebseb, that is manufacturers being cheap scates
[23:33] <crawler> bypass: hello and welcome.  ask your question and someone might be able to help you.
[23:33] <sebsebseb> sara-: heh
[23:33] <Ricochet> DasEi: I am still here and ready
[23:34] <DasEi> Ricochet: I suggest for now a last try with another xorg.conf, else you should save the links and come back another time (or if still busy find sb els) to help you compiling
[23:34] <sebsebseb> sara-: when was that computer bought?
[23:34] <sara-> sebsebseb,  1.43GiB
[23:34] <sara-> swap*
[23:34] <Neconide> raylu: Thank you for your help, but I'm giving up. Just had to reboot lol
[23:34] <sebsebseb> sara-: and 150MB RAM you say, even though the computer could do 4GB hum
[23:34] <eipark> can anyone help me figure out how to make a partition NTFS on gaprted, right now the selection is gray
[23:35] <DasEi> Ricochet:gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[23:35] <sebsebseb> eipark: make a NTFS why?
[23:35] <sara-> a year ago from a shop that rents stuff like sofa's ect sebsebseb
[23:35] <Neconide> raylu: Well I needed to boot into windows then into ubuntu, not going to tell you why, its a looong story about how I installed ubuntu
[23:35] <eipark> sebsebseb: i need to get XP
[23:35] <neodragon> I am using Jaunty on my main PC, has anyone else had a problem with the workspace switcher only showing you open apps in the "desk 1" panel even if you rotate the cube to the other desktops?
[23:35] <Cry__Baby> Im using Ubuntu 9.04.. whats it called? Hardy?
[23:35] <sebsebseb> sara-: ok  it dosn't sound like a very good shop to buy a computer from
[23:35] <sebsebseb> eipark: why?
[23:35] <Neconide> Cry__Baby: Hardy is like 8.04
[23:35] <deany> 150mb ram means 14 is used for video
[23:35] <Cry__Baby> Neconide, is 9.04 Jaunty then?
[23:35] <eipark> cause i want to run some things on a windwos machine
[23:36] <wallshot> yes, 9.04 == jaunty
[23:36] <texasjack> neodragon, bad compiz configuration?
[23:36] <Cry__Baby> ok
[23:36] <Cry__Baby> thanks
[23:36] <sebsebseb> deany: yeah I was thinking it was weird,  at least you seem to know what he/she is on about
[23:36] <sebsebseb> deany: she/he in this case I think
[23:36] <deany> well, some is used for ram
[23:36] <texasjack> neodragon, try to click on the pager and set more workspaces....
[23:36] <deany> 150 is an odd amount.
[23:36] <deany> ram i mean video
[23:36] <texasjack> neodragon, or, go to ccsm, at General Options, and see what's in there....
[23:37] <sebsebseb> sara-: Sara is Sarah yeah?  easier to know the gender than to say  he/she  or she/he   when refering to someone
[23:37] <deany> god im tired.
[23:37] <Neconide> raylu: Is there any way to disable metacity from the settings manager? It's obviously not under 'effects' because the only thing I have on is window decorations, for exit minimize etc
[23:37] <deany> Im off like a jewish foreskin
[23:37] <crawler> eipark: if i recall correctly, you don't need an NTFS partition to install XP.   just leave the free space and the XP installer will recognize it.
[23:37] <chrones> Hey guys, I am new to linux and ubuntu (first time user) and I just installed ubuntu jaunty 2 days ago. I was wondering do I need to install any drivers for my video card?
[23:37] <neodragon> texajack: under ccsm it is set to 4 desktops and on my pager it is also set to 4
[23:37] <sebsebseb> deany: uhmmm  some people might find your comment just now offensive,  not me, but others
[23:38] <Cry__Baby> anyone using Zoiper on Jaunty ?
[23:38] <DasEi> Ricochet:http://paste.ubuntu.com/193826/
[23:38] <sebsebseb> deany:  you know the commands or whatever to check how much RAM sara has?
[23:38] <texasjack> neodragon, 4 'desktops'.... That's wrong....
[23:38] <deany> sebsebseb, everyone but jewish people?
[23:38] <Ricochet> DasEi: Ok I pasted it in and saved and exited
[23:38] <veritos> deany, sebsebseb: Tell her to run 'free' and give us the output
[23:38] <sara-> sebsebseb,  i just checked my genitalia and surprisingly i am actually a girl
[23:38] <Ricochet> DasEi: Oh wait.. thats a new one
[23:38] <carbm1> Whats the best way to install OpenOffice 3.1 on Hardy Heron?  Anybody know if there is a repo I can add for updates to OpenOffice to be included with regular updates?
[23:38] <patapouf> chrones: Usually you can keep the default, but it's better to install the proprietary drivers. that can be install using the Restricted Driver Manager
[23:38] <sebsebseb> veritos: yes I was thinking free  or free -m
[23:39] <texasjack> neodragon, it's about the 'Horizontal Virtual Size', set it to 4. and Vertical to 1... And your pager to 4...
[23:39] <Jeruvy> carbm1: manually, repo's won't do it.
[23:39] <Artemis3> carbm1, yes there is
[23:39] <sebsebseb> sara-: my point was not to assume it's a guy all the time in here,  and really it should have been obvious enough to me with your name
[23:39] <chrones> patapouf, how do i get to the restricted driver manager?
[23:39] <guest2> For installing 9.04 on an spare hard-drive, any tricks to get it to acknowledge sdc1?
[23:39] <patapouf> chrones: System -> Administration -> Hardware Drivers
[23:39] <baloon> hi
[23:40] <Ricochet> DasEi: Ok saved and exited
[23:40] <carbm1> I've googled a bit about it but several have said it has a few problems with menu items and such. Was wondering if there was a supported way or not.
[23:40] <texasjack> neodragon, worked?
[23:40] <neodragon> texasjack: that worked, I don't know why I had desktops set to 4.
[23:40] <baloon> v
[23:40] <veritos> guest2: Temporarily disconnect your primary HDD?
[23:40] <sara-agirl> sebsebseb, that better?
[23:40] <Jeruvy> guest2: does it not see the drive currently?
[23:40] <sebsebseb> sara-agirl: hum you don't need to do that
[23:40] <patapouf> chrones: than you need to activate the drivers (if disable). What is your Card ?
[23:40] <neodragon> texasjack: now my pager is working like it should thanks
[23:40] <texasjack> neodragon, I don't know either what's the function of the "Desktop" option....
[23:40] <sebsebseb> sara-agirl: anyway as someone suggested run free and give us the output
[23:40] <texasjack> neodragon, no problemo. You're welcome here.
[23:41] <sara-agirl> sebsebseb, i do cus ****apparently some people dont know what gender i am
[23:41] <neodragon> texasjack: so that option is for if I have multiple moniters set up right?
[23:41] <chrones> patapouf, I was already snooping around in there but there doesnt seem to be anything to install (see screenshot): http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/8937/screenshothardwaredrive.png
[23:41] <DasEi> Ricochet:sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[23:41] <patapouf> I know I keep buggin people about this problem, but I'm about to do a heartbreak. Is there any decent solution for people having ATI card not supported by fglrx ?
[23:42] <Artemis3> carbm1, Jeruvy https://launchpad.net/~openoffice-pkgs/+archive/ppa
[23:42] <patapouf> chrones: What is your card ??
[23:42] <sebsebseb> sara-agirl: it's not even that important on IRC really,  just computer rooms mainly have guys in them or so it seems.
[23:42] <Dethroned> How do I merge unallocated hd space with Ubuntu?
[23:42] <texasjack> neodragon, but if you wanna something cool. Set the Horiz to 4, or even 8; and Vert to 2, or even 4... It's awesome see all those "desktops" in the Expo plug-in... =)
[23:42] <chrones> ATi Radeon 9800 pro
[23:42] <veritos> On 64-bit, ubuntu-restricted-extras installs the Sun JRE but the IcedTea plugin. A 64-bit Sun plugin exists; why isn't it used?
[23:42] <chrones> agp
[23:42] <texasjack> neodragon, I have no idea, man....
[23:42] <Jeruvy> Artemis3: ah gtk, but I hardly consider ppa's for support purposes :)
[23:42] <DasEi> Ricochet: effect ?
[23:42] <sebsebseb> sara-agirl: Can we get back on topic now :)  please    run free and pastebin the output
[23:43] <Artemis3> Jeruvy, easier than manual ;)
[23:43] <neodragon> texasjack: thanks again
[23:43] <Ricochet> DasEi: Well its at a blank screen with a blinking underscore
[23:43] <texasjack> neodragon, I never gat something to work with that with more than 1 desktop....
[23:43] <Jeruvy> Artemis3: again noted :)
[23:43] <Dethroned> How do I merge unallocated hd space with Ubuntu?
[23:43] <texasjack> neodragon, *get....
[23:43] <Ricochet> DasEi: This time i cant type or anything
[23:43] <patapouf> chrones: Ok, ADM/ATI doesn't support this card any more with there propreitery drivers. The solution is to stay with your current setup : keep the open source driver.
[23:43] <patapouf> chrones: Is ther performance is decent ?
[23:43] <guest2> veritos: ok, that might help.  When I tried manual partitioning, it only reads 1 partition even after I used cfdisk to make 2...
[23:43] <DasEi> Ricochet: Ctrl&Alt&F1
[23:44] <Ricochet> DasEi: DOS again
[23:44] <Twil> use gparted
[23:44] <DasEi> Ricochet: sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.working /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[23:44] <veritos> Dethroned: you mean expand your ubuntu partition to fill unused space? boot onto the livecd, then go to System->Administration->Partition Editor. that will let you expand partitions
[23:44] <sara-agirl> sebsebseb, how ? -f?
[23:44] <Dethroned> veritos:  Will it work without the Live cd?  I've already installed ubuntu
[23:44] <chrones> patapouf: Desktop performance is fine but I am trying to play Counter Strike Source (I wanna see if i can get i running on my linux machine) and I keep crashing and I think it is because of the video drivers. I didnt install any drivers at all though, they come pre-installed
[23:44] <Twil> guest2: try using gparted, it's an awesome partition manager
[23:44] <veritos> Dethroned: no, it won't
[23:44] <DasEi> Ricochet: so I give up for now, you may look further : http://paste.ubuntu.com/193830/
[23:44] <Cry__Baby> anyone using Zoiper on Jaunty ?
[23:44] <veritos> Dethroned: you can't resize a partition that you're using.
[23:45] <Dethroned> veritos:  kk...thanks
[23:45] <sebsebseb> sara-agirl: and I would rather call someone he or she,  rather than say,  it or them.    type  free in the terminal and hit etner
[23:45] <Ricochet> DasEi: Thanks for your time man! I appreciate it
[23:45] <Dethroned> veritos:  Do I have to go into a certain mode?
[23:45] <deany> sebsebseb, has a way with the ladies
[23:46] <chrones> patapouf: Like the game crashes when i try to join a server I cant even join. And when i load the game via Steam on Wine it says somethign about out of date drivers
[23:46] <carbm1> Thank you Artemis3.
[23:46] <sebsebseb> deany: lol
[23:46] <patapouf> chrones: At this time, with Jaunty you can forget it. Since the only driver for ATI card is the open source one, the performance in 3D is really bad ..
[23:46] <DasEi> Ricochet: the second link of the pastebin is the one I think, find someone (fresh, hi) to walk you through
[23:46] <deany> Cry__Baby,  how is that virus coming along
[23:46] <Ricochet> DasEi: Ok, thanks man!
[23:46] <veritos> Dethroned: no. just the regular boot. it's in System->Administration->Partition Editor. you use that software to do what you want, then you need to reinstall grub. i have to leave now, but i'm sure that someone else can help with the grub reinstallation.
[23:46] <Cry__Baby> deany, i think I got rid off it :-)
[23:47] <patapouf> chrones: We are a bunch of people in the same situation (Including me)
[23:47] <chrones> patapouf: Do you think going to an earlier version of ubuntu say 8.0ish would help?
[23:47] <deany> Cry__Baby, did you even have one.  Ok, well good job.
[23:47] <Rev_> hi @all
[23:47] <DasEi> Ricochet: hope to see you back on ee soon, night
[23:47] <Cry__Baby> deany, :)
[23:47] <sebsebseb> sara-agirl: by the way I remember some guy had a 3GB  RAM and  slow/laggy  Ubuntu 8.10 issue
[23:47] <sara-agirl> sebsebseb, http://pastebin.com/d90d9a89
[23:48] <patapouf> chrones: wep, cause the propreitery driver gonna work. And I suggest you to install 8.04 as it's a LongTermSupport release (it's more stable)
[23:48] <cmb_kronios> how does every body feel about the gOS?
[23:49] <sebsebseb> deany: ah yeah geekout put for those kind of commands, get some number, instead of it saying like 4GB or something.  can you help me us understand the geekoutput that she just pasted?
[23:49] <oenone> hellow
[23:49] <texasjack> cmb_kronios, I bet that its from Google... Its the scratch of their new OS.
[23:49] <patapouf> chrones:If you plan is to do some gaming I guess it's a good choice to try Hardy 8.04 until we get a decent open source driver for 3D
[23:49] <oenone> anybody here
[23:49] <sebsebseb> deany: how much RAM does she have?
[23:49] <XCP> I see this one in my syslog quite often: /USR/SBIN/CRON[1314]: (root) CMD ([ -x /usr/sbin/update-motd ] && /usr/sbin/update-motd 2>/dev/null) ... why is my motd updated? what's the reason behind this?
[23:49] <chrones> patapouf: Cool, thanks for the help
[23:49] <patapouf> chrones: it's pleasure, and have fun trying Hardy ! :)
[23:50] <oenone> can anybody help me on how to make my a4tech headset work on ubuntu 9.04
[23:50] <wallshot> XCP: just another way to nickle and dime your cpu? :)
[23:50] <oenone> please
[23:50] <Cry__Baby> how come 9.04 is so fast to load, compared to other versions?
[23:50] <texasjack> Anyone using the Jaunty Pre-Released packages (Karma)?
[23:50] <Cry__Baby> texasjack: no way!
[23:50] <wallshot> man update-motd prolly says why
[23:50] <deany> chrones, I have a mobility radeon 9800, no there is no hardware AMD/ATI driver
[23:51] <Jeruvy> !karmic | texasjack
[23:51] <texasjack> Cry__Baby, wow.....
[23:51] <XCP> wallshot: indeed, it's been done 60+ times in the last 24 hours
[23:51] <texasjack> Cry__Baby, thats scared me.  I was thinking in installing it. o.O
[23:51] <cmb_kronios> texasjack, its a copy of ubuntu 8.04
[23:51] <Cry__Baby> texasjack: im too scared
[23:51] <texasjack> Jeruvy, thank you, too.
[23:51] <wallshot> XCP: i thought "because ubuntu is the windows of linux" was too snarky an answer ;)
[23:52] <Cry__Baby> texasjack: backup ubuntu before you do, e.g Acronis Trueimage
[23:52] <ircnickiuse> Jeruvy, any discussion or progress anywhere of the new LaF for karmic?
[23:52] <Jeruvy> texasjack: anytime
[23:52] <Cry__Baby> texasjack: Karmic WILL break, so you know
[23:52] <Jeruvy> ircnickiuse: I am not aware sorry
[23:52] <texasjack> cmb_kronios, but it's totally "patched" to Google.  It have Google everywhere!
[23:52] <CleanLaundry> !pastebin
[23:52] <texasjack> Cry__Baby, thank you, brother tux.
[23:53] <Jeruvy> ircnickiuse: you could try in #ubuntu+1...I can't see it hurting much :)
[23:53] <cmb_kronios> texasjack, yes it does....really bad
[23:53] <sebsebseb> sara-agirl: do you undertand that commands output yourself maybe?   well  I just asked someone else.  and it seems you may in fact have 496MB in there
[23:53] <nick125> If you want to play with karmic, doing it in Virtualbox would be my suggest...not as much fun, but bleh.
[23:53] <elky> sebsebseb, please join #ubuntu-ops
[23:53] <Cry__Baby> texasjack: no problem brother tex :)
[23:53] <sebsebseb> elky: fair enough
[23:53] <texasjack> cmb_kronios, already try "Mint"?
[23:53] <elky> sebsebseb, please dont ignore me
[23:53] <texasjack> Cry__Baby, ;)
[23:54] <Cry__Baby> elky: sebastian_ wont ignore you on purpose, he probably away finding informatuon to help
[23:54] <oenone> help please
[23:54] <sara-agirl> sebsebseb, shiney
[23:54] <cmb_kronios> teaxsjack, i have mint just tryin out other OS from linux or bout linux.....i am running ubuntu 9.10
[23:55] <Jeruvy> !help | oenone
[23:55] <sara-agirl> whats that trick with swap files?
[23:55] <AgentBlair> ubuntu-9.04-desktop-i386.iso is the latest live-CD right?
[23:55] <texasjack> cmb_kronios, how far are you going with Ubuntu Karma?
[23:55] <utueh> sara-agirl: what? make a swap partition, add to /etc/fstab, do a swapon -a
[23:55] <Hilikus> whats the kernel version in the latest ubuntu?
[23:55] <Teltariat> hello people
[23:56] <Teltariat> I upgraded from 8.10 to 9.04, and all my file associations are screwed up
[23:56] <Teltariat> ie, Ubuntu doesn't know to open a zip with file-roller anymore
[23:56] <Teltariat> what can regenerate these associations?
[23:56] <utueh> sara-agirl: why you want swap?
[23:56] <popey> Hilikus: 2.6.28
[23:56] <VCoolio> Teltariat: in nautilusu rightclick > preferences or options or whatever
[23:56] <AgentBlair> hmm
[23:56] <AgentBlair> so 9.04 is latest
[23:56] <cmb_kronios> texasjack,what u mean?...i am a newbie reall y when it comes to linux but i came from windows and im loving the change !
[23:56] <Teltariat> Vcoolio, yea, but for every file?
[23:57] <texasjack> sara-agirl, if you have less than 1 GB of RAM, set it up to AT LEAST twice the size of your RAM.  If you have 4 GB, make one with about 512 MB, or maybe 1 GB... If you're server... You're on your own. ;)
[23:57] <VCoolio> Teltariat: properties; no
[23:57] <AgentBlair> how much does ubuntu take up on my harddrive when I want to run it on the live CD and save settings?
[23:57] <utueh> AgentBlair: according to the ubuntu site :)
[23:57] <AgentBlair> :p
[23:57] <sebsebseb> texasjack: she has left
[23:57] <AgentBlair> well im from puppylinux
[23:57] <AgentBlair> shouldn't be too much diff
[23:57] <utueh> AgentBlair: good question, test and let us know :)
[23:57] <AgentBlair> but im running this on a more powerful comp
[23:57] <AgentBlair> :p
[23:58] <VCoolio> Teltariat: eg. .avi then properties > open with choose vlc; in future all avis open in vlc
[23:58] <linuxeater> Evening
[23:58] <texasjack> sebsebseb, ohhh.  I hide those messages....
[23:58] <AgentBlair> if it fails u won't know for another week XD
[23:58] <linuxeater> I've got a problem with cpufreqd
[23:58] <Teltariat> VCoolio: the problem is that it is broken for so many file types, that if I did it that way I would have to do it like 50 times
[23:59] <texasjack> Teltariat, try to install "mime-info*" packages again...
[23:59] <linuxeater> my modprobe doesn't have speedstep-centrilo module
[23:59] <linuxeater> :(
[23:59] <Teltariat> thanks texasjack, will try
[23:59] <texasjack> Teltariat, or even nautilus-data, something like this...