=== blizzzek is now known as blizzz [03:00] ok [03:01] so how do you install this on kubuntu? [03:01] i'm not going to install apturl [03:01] ah, i see [03:02] required not to run kubuntu [03:56] vorian: The installation links to a .deb and you can just do a 'sudo apt-get install ubuntuone-client' in a terminal to avoid apturl :) [04:00] jblount: sure - the client doesn't want to launch :( [04:01] it's no biggie [04:01] I thought it might work, but figured it wouldn't [04:01] one day perhaps [04:03] can anyone help with when I might receive an invite to ubuntuone, I've registered and am keen to see it it action. I'm in Australia while my colleague is in France. To seemlessly share work files would be a dream come true! [04:14] eekfonky: Go ahead and pm your email to me, I can help you jump the queue to try the service out. [04:15] chris.welsh23@googlemail.com [04:15] Thank you [04:16] jblount: i just talked to chris, I don't have a good way to look his account up [04:16] yet [04:16] it's part of the 'make admin pages more usable' I reported on myself [04:17] eekfonky: You should have a email pretty soon, just accept the share and the account setup should be pretty clear :) [04:18] jblount: tricky! [04:18] jdobrien_: ;) [04:18] i forgot about that and i wrote it [04:18] jdobrien_: This is how I was doing it with the twitter account as well :D [04:19] email has arrived, thanks for the help, much appreciated [04:19] :) [04:22] eekfonky: Enjoy, be sure to let us know how you get on :) [04:23] I will do, I've been an ubuntu user for 2 years now and am spreading the word:-D [04:25] I'll be in touch, thanks again, I'm off to investigate [04:37] Is it possible to share files with ubuntu one to someone that does not have an ubuntu one account? [04:37] kind of [04:38] you can share things to people by providing their email address whether or not they have an account [04:38] fsvo yes and no? [04:38] but they will need to sign up with at least the free plan to actually access the files you've shared to them [04:38] Eh, they have to make an account, that's f'in lame [04:38] Damnit [04:39] I want an online box that I can share folder to people and not have them go through the pain of making yet another f'in internet acct [04:41] basically the mediafire use case? [04:42] All installed, I'm having difficulty creating 'New Sub-Folder' I I enter a name and click 'create' a new folder doesn't appear, what am I doing wrong? [04:43] eekfonky: Do you mean while using http://ubuntuone.com/files/ ? [04:43] yes [04:43] eekfonky: If so, does a refresh of the whole page reveal these pesky folders? [04:44] no, that doesn't work [04:46] just says 'Folder is empty' on 'My Files' [04:48] eekfonky: yikes! Would you mind filing a bug for this? https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntuone-client/+filebug?field.title=Creating+new+directories+in+webui+under+%22My+Files%22+doesn%27t+work [04:48] dragging it in from my desktop to the ubuntu one folder [04:48] I'll do that now [04:48] eekfonky: it doesn't seem to work for me either in the root folder [04:49] I do also have a chronically slow internet connection at times, out here in the wilds of Australia [04:49] that may not help [04:50] eekfonky: Ouch! We'll be glad to have you as a beta tester then, I'm learning from http://planet.ubuntu.com that many people in the community have _very_ slow connections. [04:54] I'll be back in sunny Scotland in 6 Months where i can get a decent connection, it's usually Ok here but can drop out [04:54] Bug filed [04:56] I assume that when the ubuntu One Icon is rotating it's uploading my files, it's going slow but I have quite a few files in the folder, I'll let it run and come back in half an hour to check [04:57] eekfonky: Yes, it should be uploading. We're still working on a better progress meter thingie. [04:57] excellent, I'll let it run [05:23] OK still nothing there, can I cancel it? and try one or two files at a time? [05:23] the total is only 8mb [05:51] still just spinning round saying working, should I leave it? [07:03] I'm getting a .conflict after my folder name on ununtu one in nautilus. What's the problem? [08:37] Hi everyone [08:38] I have been waiting for an invitation to Ubuntu One for weeks now. Is there any way to speed the process up? [09:07] todoleo_: no [09:08] todoleo_: the delay is while some issues the first users discovered are fixed. Once fixed more users will be allowed into the system. [09:08] why can't I upload files, I have uploaded a folder, but it's contents are empty? [09:09] I get a .conflict in nautilus [09:11] anyone? [09:12] the ubuntu one web page just hangs, I'm currently using a high speed LAN, so it's not a connection issue [09:20] I just can't get ubuntu one to work?!? [09:23] eekfonky: please consider filing a bug. it is a beta service. [09:24] I understand, and I have, I just wondered if there was something I could do, thanks anyway [12:17] Hi all [13:46] so, once an expense has been accepted, what do I need to do? [13:46] ugh, sorry :) [13:46] wrong channel [13:47] :p [13:47] :) [13:56] hello world === facundobatista is now known as world [13:59] hi statik === world is now known as facundobatista === thekorn_ is now known as thekorn === urbanape_ is now known as urbanape [14:57] boo, missed it. Well, I'm still getting acclimated. Yesterday: tried reviewing statik's oops-tools branch, Today: hacking with dobey in Williamsburg, Stuck on: not having access to oops-tools-django [14:58] urbanape: you haven't missed it, it's in 2 minutes : ) [14:58] urbanape: you're in time :) [14:59] heh [15:00] MEETING BEGINS! [15:00] hows that for omninous? [15:00] Hi, everyone who is here for the ubuntu one developer standup, please say 'me'. The format for this meeting is to paste 3 lines: yesterday, today, and blockers. Then say the person that should go next - we can try going in 'me' order. I'll go first. [15:00] aw [15:00] me [15:00] me [15:00] mi [15:00] hurray! I win [15:00] urbanape, CardinalFang, jblount, rmcbride, vds? [15:01] me [15:01] me [15:01] me [15:01] I saw MEETING OVER in #the-other-channel [15:01] great [15:01] DONE: Fixed my karmic desktop booting problem, a lot of chats with zac about firefox bookmark syncing and consulting on screen sharing protocol stuff [15:01] TODO: Mini-sprint with florida crew, consulting on screen-sharing, and talking with phil on the web server rollout today, and a strategy for better management of ajax failures, and chasing lots of stuff with defining packages for karmic. [15:01] BLOCKED: never! [15:01] next is urbanape, since he said me before we started :) [15:01] me [15:01] me [15:02] yesterday: tried to review statik's oops-tools branch [15:02] today: hacking with dobey in williamsburg [15:02] blocker: still trying to get access to oops-tools-django [15:02] do I go? [15:03] teknico: yep [15:03] yesterday: integration tests for the funambol server api [15:03] teknico: urbanape should say when he is done and who is next [15:03] today: phone registration, packages [15:03] tomorrow: chr [15:03] blocked: nothing [15:03] dobey: your turn [15:03] DONE: Fixed couple small bugs, more nautilus extension C code, uploaded icontool to REVU [15:03] TODAY: Micro-sprint with urbanape in Williamsburg, more nautilus extension C porting [15:03] BLOCKED: I keep hitting the [?] but the coins aren't coming out. [15:04] vds: ciao. all you [15:04] YESTERDAY: landed mobile_phone_database branch, spent few hours estimating new branches with Mark,went through jboult mobile phone web ui branch, started a new branch to normalize phone numbers [15:04] TODAY: still work on my current branch about normalize numbers [15:04] BLOCKED: No [15:04] rmcbride: your turn [15:04] done: reviews, initial upload of python-configglue package to REVU [15:04] todo: resolve issue with package format for above, mini-sprint with FL crew [15:04] blocked: nope [15:04] CardinalFang: the rack! [15:04] done: subprocess and EINTR sorted out for system stat gathering. graphite and its dependencies [15:04] today: get graphite booting and catching monitored info. automatic creation of DBs when first received [15:05] blocked: not sure yet. Probably nothing. [15:05] eof. [15:05] rodrigo_: you [15:05] done: basic read operations done in couchdb-glib-1.0 (http://blogs.gnome.org/rodrigo/2009/06/11/couchdb-glib-01/) and released it [15:06] todo: e-d-s backend for couchdb, basic read operations [15:06] blocked: neeed to get back to the notes API for tomboy, once oauth lands in tomboy source code [15:06] aquarius: your turn I think [15:06] yesterday: talking about packages required for structured storage in karmic; discussing moving of API from separate HTTP daemon into CouchDB directly; helping Sandy with Tomboy OAuth API [15:06] today: working out which packages are required for structured storage with SteveA; looking at how to do couchdb client-cloud replication and client-client replication with thisfred [15:06] blocked: tomboy oauth, as rodrigo [15:06] next: nobody. I'm last. [15:07] woooo! [15:07] great meeting guys. urbanape, are you getting help from someone on the launchpad team about your branch access problem? [15:07] rodrigo_: thats super awesome news about couchdb-glib [15:07] I sent a note to matsubara, but haven't heard back [15:08] I'm going to call this meeting over, urbanape I will help you with the branch access blockage [15:08] MEETING ENDS [15:08] thanks everyone [15:08] statik: :) [15:08] danke === urbanape_ is now known as urbanape === herb__ is now known as herb [16:29] dobey: can you file a bug at http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug with the summary "[needs-packaging] icontool" then introduce what the tool does and which clearly state the the upstream source URL and licence conditions/author(s)/copyright (equivalent to a Debian ITP) === urbanape__ is now known as urbanape [16:30] uh, sure. i don't know much about the debian itp process either though :) [16:32] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/NewPackages#Packaging%20it%20yourself ...better link === webm0nk3y is now known as jdobrien [17:26] sladen: bug #385993 [17:26] Launchpad bug 385993 in ubuntu "[needs-packaging] icontool" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/385993 === yofel_ is now known as yofel [17:39] hi [17:39] I think the unshare feature doesn't work :( [17:40] At least if I cancel a folder shared with me [17:40] hi toros [17:40] Now I don't see it in the web interface [17:40] you tried to unshare a folder that was shared with you? [17:40] toros: humm known bug ? [17:40] however I still get the files synchronised in my Ubuntu One folder [17:41] joshuahoover: yes, I did === rmcbride_ is now known as rmcbride [17:42] It is a whole My Files folder, which was accidentally shared with me [17:44] toros: LOLOLOL [17:46] this is the share id: id=7966958d-0a13-4dbe-b033-5641cc2c8d5f name=Puck's Files accepted=True access_level=View from=openiduser21 [17:46] I don't know if this information helps :) [17:47] toros: thank you [17:56] toros: i was looking to see if we had anyone with a similar problem before [17:56] joshuahoover: thank you [17:57] and... had anyone similar problem? :) [17:57] toros: so far, i haven't turned up anything...would you be willing to file a bug? https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntuone-client/+filebug [17:58] yepp [17:58] toros: thank you very much! [17:58] what kid of informations do you need? [17:59] should I write the Share ID too? [17:59] yes please [17:59] okay [18:01] toros: do the files show up in both the web and client? [18:04] no, only in the client [18:04] I see nothing in the web interface [18:07] toros: ok [18:13] joshuahoover: here it is: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntuone-client/+bug/386015 [18:13] Launchpad bug 386015 in ubuntuone-client "Cancelling a share if I am the recipient doesn't work" [Undecided,New] [18:13] Is it ok, or do you need further information? [18:15] toros: thank you! yes, i think that's good for now :) [18:15] joshuahoover: cool :) [18:16] I try to contact the guy, and ask him, what he sees in his web interface [18:16] toros: ok, i did a test myself with a folder someone shared with me (not their "My Files") and, so far, i'm seeing the same behavior [18:21] howdy [18:21] toros: around ? [18:21] hi PucKid [18:21] i just came home (: [18:22] thank you for coming :) [18:22] what do you see in your web interface? [18:22] is it still shared with me? [18:22] one moment [18:23] This Folder is not shared [18:23] so no, it shows it is not [18:25] hmmm... that's strange [18:26] could you copy an another file in it? just for a test :) [18:26] sure [18:26] done [18:26] 2 files in there [18:27] Kép 033.jpg and coffee_logo.png [18:27] :( [18:28] I see the same two files here [18:28] dobey: around ? [18:29] PucKid: please try the u1sdtool --list-shared command in the terminal [18:30] toros: i uploaded those files in the webtool, i am not running the client on my pc [18:30] BUGabundo: hi [18:31] dobey: not sure this is on LP but wanna roll this idea on you guys [18:31] ok [18:31] I would like a feature that would make me Pay for online storage [18:31] who ever gets its 1st gets my money ;) [18:31] ? [18:31] *custom domains!* [18:32] aka use my own sub/domain on the storage [18:32] BUGabundo, what do you mean? [18:32] dobey: are you considering it ? [18:32] that would be really annoying to manage [18:32] because of the SSL [18:32] facundobatista: MYCLOUD.DOMAIN.TLF CNAME clientserver.ubuntuone.com [18:32] and i don't know what benefits it would give you [18:33] dobey: Branding [18:34] what are the benefits? [18:35] I like my own domain [18:35] that's just it! [18:43] but who else would use that? how does it benefit users? how does it benefit the site admins? [18:46] ok... now I see why I can't find that anywhere else [18:46] you guys don't see the point! :( [18:46] dobey: let me try it the other way [18:46] see how blogger and wp do ? [18:47] they allow users to use their own domains? [18:47] ok [18:47] it lets user have added value due to Brandin«g [18:47] you want css and everything? [18:48] and i don't think having subdomains on wp and blogger has anything to do with branding [18:49] no? then what? [18:49] its it for me! [18:50] it's for differentiating published content between users [18:50] which is not branding [18:50] we don't publish your content on ubuntuone.com [18:50] grr [18:50] we are not eye to eye on this [18:50] nevermind [18:50] maybe in 6 months it will make more sense to U1 devel team [18:51] I'll be here waiting [18:51] ahh forgot: where it makes more sense: Public links like dropbox has [18:51] BUGabundo, dobey's point, I think, is that there's no sense in having bugabundo.ubuntuone.com, when *you* will be the only one that will ever see that url [18:52] facundobatista: that's not what I was asking [18:52] I was asking for files.bugabundo.net [18:52] since you guys won't allow us to install it on our servers, allow us to brand YOURS [18:52] BUGabundo, the same... you're the only one seeing that url, ever [18:53] facundobatista: then why do I use GAFYD ? [18:53] I'm the only one to see the URL too [18:53] (and my users, ok) [18:53] but my emails are @bugabundo.net [18:53] I could very well do that from a regular gmail account :\ [18:54] BUGabundo, in that case is valuable, because you're reaching people with @bugabungo.net... [18:54] you can do that already... [18:54] BUGabundo, having your name in the public links could be nice... will we have public links in U1? dunno [18:54] facundobatista: nor do I [18:55] dobey: I can ? [18:57] BUGabundo: we don't own the bugabundu.net domain [18:57] dobey: CNAME ? [18:57] subdomains NameServer pointers? [18:57] A-Records? [18:58] its all DNS ! [18:58] we can't sets up a subdomain for a domain we don't control [18:59] sure you can [18:59] I do it all the time! [18:59] you can NServ the subdomain to another place [19:00] it requires a level of cooperation with the registrar of the domain, that i don't think any of us want to deal with [19:01] dobey: err and that's ME ? [19:01] and in any case, if the (power) user wants to point a sub/domain, he should have control of his DNS Zone [19:01] dobey: as I said [19:01] never mind it now! [19:02] BUGabundo: you own the dns server for bugabundo.net? [19:02] BUGabundo: and while that may be you in THIS case, it's not so for all the other cases [19:02] hmmm... what happened with ubuntu one? [19:03] BUGabundo: and one person probably isn't enough to develop a new service [19:03] it keeps rotating, and won't stop [19:03] toros: give it time [19:03] dobey: I OWN the DNZ Zone [19:03] an so do many users who have a DNS control Panel [19:04] BUGabundo: you don't own MY domain. or all the other users who might want such a service [19:04] err [19:04] and because a web host provides features, doesn't mean users know how to use them [19:04] either I'm tired or you are being sarcastic! [19:04] :) [19:05] BUGabundo: YOU are not our ONLY user :) [19:05] * BUGabundo /sarcasm [19:06] eh? [19:06] nvm [19:06] im tired [19:06] ok [19:06] and you are joking with what I say [19:06] no, i am not [19:09] oh no? [19:09] cause it sounds like it to me! if you are not, please accept my appoligies [19:10] I get a lot of that on some IRC #s [19:10] and I don't usually get sarcasm all that well [19:10] i am trying to understand how this would be useful for people who are not you [19:11] BUGabundo: you're not explaining yourself very well. I've read what you've said 5 times and I am lost. [19:11] ok [19:11] let me try to make this a bit clear [19:12] *eventually* U1 will provide more web services for colaboration [19:12] BUGabundo: you know what works well for this? [19:12] a spec! [19:12] Hmmm, I there is a server side issue again with ubuntu one [19:12] it will very soon, I hope, Public links for download as DB does [19:12] *I think... [19:12] <__lucio__> toros: yes. someone tripped on the plug. or something like that. we will have it up in a second. [19:12] toros: yes [19:13] I really don't like to use server43.dropbox.com/user/p3423432/file.txt [19:13] ohh, thanks for the info [19:13] would love to have that be files.mydomain.com/file.txt [19:13] __lucio__: LOL [19:13] cleaning lady !?!? [19:13] <__lucio__> Chipaca: i dont know, was it the cleaning lady? ;) [19:13] that's why Cloud is soooooo dangerous!! [19:14] a cleaning lady in the cloud? :) [19:14] somebody flew an airbus into our cloud [19:14] :) [19:14] nah, a planned server upgrade / rollout hiccuped [19:15] :) [19:15] or maybe an angel? [19:16] hmmm... what happens if I reject the share using the u1sdtool? [19:16] <__lucio__> angel? i dont know what religion you profess, toros, but i dont like your angels :P [19:16] __lucio__: :D [19:42] box.net just announced a feature very similar to what BUGabundo was asking for: http://www.box.net/help/239 [19:42] * BUGabundo looks [19:46] statik: not exaclty [19:47] that's still under the main domain of box.net [19:48] oh right [19:49] statik: I just reported this bug: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntuone-client/+bug/386015 [19:49] Launchpad bug 386015 in ubuntuone-client "Cancelling a share if I am the recipient doesn't work" [Undecided,New] [19:49] and now I am thinking about to try rejecting the share using the u1sdtool [19:49] what do you think is it a good idea? [19:50] or I shouldn't touch it? :) [19:52] toros: to try to address the issue, sure...we'll still need to see what is going on with the bug [19:52] Does anyone know anything like this (Link: http://www.pegtop.net/start/) for linux? [19:53] joshuahoover: so I should give it a try? [19:53] toros: go for it :) [19:57] joshuahoover: Failure: dbus.exceptions.DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Python.twisted.python.failure.Failure: Failure: [Failure instance: Traceback (failure with no frames): : DOES_NOT_EXIST [19:58] but now it is false: id=7966958d-0a13-4dbe-b033-5641cc2c8d5f name=Puck's Files accepted=False access_level=View from=openiduser21 [19:58] let's try what happens if a file is uploaded... [19:58] <__lucio__> toros: add a new bug with that please [19:58] lucio: a new one or add to the existing one? [19:58] <__lucio__> toros: put the all the output from lsit shares before and after please [19:59] <__lucio__> joshuahoover: a new one. the first one i think is web related [19:59] __lucio__: might be...although toros was trying to fix the issue manually using u1sdtool [20:00] __lucio__: a workaround, so he stopped getting all of PucKid's new files :) [20:00] <__lucio__> joshuahoover: one bug for the normal behaviour not working (the web), one bug for the fix not working (u1sdtool) [20:00] <__lucio__> toros: is that reasonable? [20:01] __lucio__: ok, sounds reasonable to me...just didn't want to pile on bugs if they were tightly related [20:01] it still downloads the new files [20:01] so no change [20:02] <__lucio__> ahh, i dont think we have u1sdtool support for "delete share" yet [20:02] <__lucio__> and i think that that is what you need [20:03] __lucio__: do you know what --reject-share does? [20:04] <__lucio__> joshuahoover: im a bit guessing. its supposed to be used before the share is accepted. [20:06] hmmm... is it possible to cancel a subscription, and then recreate it? [20:06] with the same launchpad id [20:06] toros: i defer to __lucio__ or someone else...i don't know [20:06] <__lucio__> toros: can you try the reject share again? [20:06] __lucio__: using the u1sdtool? [20:06] <__lucio__> yes please [20:08] the same [20:08] so it still downloads the new files [20:10] <__lucio__> toros: then i dont know. i will make sure that someone fixes the web part, and when verterok comes back, ill make sure he takes a look at u1sdtool [20:10] __lucio__: thank you [20:11] <__lucio__> para servirle [20:11] now I have access to both sides of the share [20:11] so if you need further info, testing, etc. I am here :) [20:14] toros: thank you for your help! [20:35] What is a good place to find linux portable apps, and also does anyone know a linux compatible custom menu application? [20:42] wrong channel [20:42] soz [20:44] portable apps? [20:44] oh [21:00] hello anyone who's awake :) [21:00] how long should i have to wait for a beta invite? [21:01] i've been signed up for a month or so... [21:01] jonathon: hard to say, but we just sent out 500 more a few minutes ago [21:01] okies [21:01] * jonathon goes back to sitting corner waiting patiently [21:01] :) [21:11] oh, question [21:11] is there a client for karmic? [21:12] !question | jonathon [21:12] jonathon: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) [21:12] jonathon: the client is the same [21:12] it runs exaclty the same [21:14] right, thanks [21:17] at the moment anyway [21:17] we need to get a ubuntuone-ppa package built for karmic, but the ppa itself has packages built for karmic [21:17] Gasoline Heart (a band from Florida where some of us live) is giving away a retrospective album. Good for people that like Bruce Springstein or failed punk bands http://www.pastemagazine.com/action/register_and_download/gasoline_heart [21:20] * BUGabundo is saying that for 1 month!!!! [21:23] dobey: i don't think it's worth the hassle to make an ubuntuone-ppa package for karmic, people running karmic will be able to install ubuntuone-client from the official ubuntu repos soon enough [21:25] statik: until FF [21:25] then users will loose new funcionallity [21:26] that's the prob with release and very new software that changes a lot. like gwibber [21:26] statik: yeah [21:26] BUGabundo: we don't have the "nightlies" ppa set up from a package yet anyway [21:28] :( [21:28] please give it to me [21:28] I love dailies/nightlies [21:28] BUGabundo: just s/beta/nightlies/ in your sources I think [21:28] duh [21:30] I no longer need deb https://sneakpeek:delighted@private-ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntuone/beta/ubuntu jaunty main [21:30] [21:30] do I ? [21:30] deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntuone/beta/ubuntu jaunty main [21:30] no [21:30] they are listed here: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntuone/ . nightlies are built at least once a day usually and might not work. the stuff in beta we've at least run a set of regression tests on [21:30] so just replace here? [21:34] if you want, yes [21:34] done [21:34]