[00:00] but they are all PATA and not SATA. [00:00] advanced technology does have its downside. :/ [00:01] come to think of it, with 2GB or RAM that would be a waste. My ideas get ahead of myself sometimes. :) [00:02] lol [00:02] if only you could write to a flash drive more than 80,000 times; if you could you could use that as a surrogate RAM partition.... [00:03] until then. [00:04] until then [00:05] I'm starting to think I might be able to use DSL and icewm [00:05] but i have to wait for this install to finish [00:06] why not just use fluxbox with DSL? You more used to icewm? [00:06] yeah... I'm not sure i like flux [00:06] i mean... I can give it a try again [00:06] thing I'm concerned about is my wifi card [00:06] maybe here's one: http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=ulite [00:06] u-lite distro. [00:07] ahh, yah.. [00:07] it was automafically detected by puppy... [00:07] I'm sure you can install a network manager and start it up with fluxbox. [00:07] not gOS [00:07] that's why distros are so damn good to have. Starting from scratch is, well, kind of hard. [00:08] I think I'll try U-lite in Vbox.. :) [00:08] nice to have a fast computer for just such an occasion. [00:09] nudge -- nudge ... :) [00:09] lol [00:09] I'm a cheap ass [00:09] infact [00:09] this laptop was given to me [00:09] lol [00:09] so was I, but I just spent the money anyway. I built my computer from scratch. [00:10] boy was that a pain. [00:10] yeah [00:11] I've grown fond of dell PC's because their easy to open [00:11] you sort of will appreciate the expertise involved when you do it yourself. [00:11] easy to open.. lol. [00:11] I tried replacing something in my dad's old computer... but he sent it away to some kind of computer fixer monkeys [00:11] they used WAY too much cable [00:12] there was no room for anything... no room for airflow [00:12] dustbunny's everywhere [00:15] that sux. [00:16] it did [00:16] but it was a pretty crappy computer anyways [00:16] it had a zip drive [00:16] lol [00:17] zip drives are sexy. [00:17] *oops* [00:18] kind of useless [00:18] zip drives are expensive, ... so are the tapes. [00:18] specially since I can't find the zip for the drive [00:19] I have one of those still hanging around. [00:19] they are *so* useful compared to normal disk drives. [00:19] are they actually? [00:19] tapes are some of the best ways to keep something. [00:19] no. :) [00:20] ...they actually are if you are limited to zips or diskettes. [00:20] yeah i guess so [00:20] knome, how do you figure? [00:20] ron_o, by being in such situation? ;) [00:21] yeah... if you've got no cash and need to keep your geek on [00:21] lol, not really [00:21] Zip drives are better than no drives [00:21] i always say [00:21] but if you have some machines you can't use cd-rom or something else with. [00:22] zip drives are tapes and thus keep data serially. [00:22] at least if you manage something remotely and have to backup something and internet is not a choice. [00:22] ahh, I see what you are saying. [00:22] you're talking for a really old computer. [00:23] i mean, of course i'd rather use dvd if i could but... sometimes it's not possible [00:23] man, some of you linuxers are still in the stone age. :) [00:23] or backup online. ;) [00:23] or just keep up old systems for hobby [00:23] that's fun! [00:23] DVD sucks for anything besides a temporary place for something and for movies. [00:23] we have a rack of old servers + some sparcs running ;) [00:23] I'd like to set that up at home. [00:24] speaking of servers [00:24] that way I could have my OS on my computer and all my data on the servers. [00:24] I am the proud father of a DDNS :) [00:24] which at this point I'm using for my utorrent webUI [00:25] first time ever :) rather proud of myself [00:25] PDG1, father og one domain or a service or the technology? ;) [00:25] one domain :P [00:25] right [00:25] it's a free one, right? ;) [00:26] of course [00:26] I don't have that kind of cash [00:26] haha [00:26] i own three domains, partly own one and we host a dozen. [00:27] that's why my laptop is considered a "low memory" syustem [00:27] like, real domains :P [00:27] .homelinux.net is a real domain :( [00:27] but blahblah.homelinux.net is not :) [00:27] it's a subdomain [00:27] :'( aaahhh You're right [00:28] domains are actually quite cheap [00:28] some 8$ per year or sth. [00:28] per year? [00:29] yes. [00:29] if you have to host it, it's maybe 12$ per year [00:29] yeah... I could probably get away with that [00:29] (.com .net etc. domains) [00:29] hi all [00:29] I've jsut been going with free because I really don't know what I'm doing [00:29] !hi | erik__ [00:29] erik__: Hi! Welcome to #xubuntu! [00:30] i have a question what program is good for cleaning temp internet files under xubuntu [00:30] erik__, uhh... use the browser? [00:31] firefox [00:31] erik__, yes, firefox has tools for it [00:31] erik__, use bleachbit [00:31] isn't it CTRL+SHIFT+del to bring up the menu? [00:32] yup [00:32] PDG1 is correct. [00:32] ok [00:32] i will search for it [00:32] i like being correct... [00:33] just type #sudo apt-get install bleachbit in a terminal and if you don't like it then remove it. [00:33] in fact... starting today... I'm going to keep a tally of how many times I am right [00:33] whoa whoa [00:33] im still new to linux [00:34] erik__, if you are looking for privacy, then you have come upon a vast subject and it's it's very hard to accomplish with a modern OS. [00:35] ok [00:35] but bleachbit can help. :) [00:35] im not concerned about privacy [00:36] OK. :) [00:36] space then? [00:36] just sometimes youtube slows down [00:36] oh, hehe. Ok. [00:36] on xp i used cc cleaner [00:36] but i have got sick of xp [00:37] and you think your /tmp file is too full? [00:37] not sure [00:38] when it happens, try ping..... $ping -c10 www.google.com in a terminal and see if it's not your internet connection. [00:39] how do i get to terminal [00:39] i looked under system [00:39] erik__, accessories > termianl [00:39] *terminal [00:41] 1- packets transmited [00:41] 10 [00:41] 10 recieved [00:41] also try Alt+F2 and then type in xfce4-terminal [00:41] 0 packet loss [00:41] how many milliseconds? [00:41] yeah... I found alt F2 really handy [00:41] 9012 [00:42] milliseconds [00:42] I think that's about right. [00:42] about 9 seconds. Is that good guys? My internet connection sux. [00:42] im on dsl [00:42] 3mb [00:42] verizon [00:43] cable internet can be a nightmare [00:43] well, i get a lot more but i'm not so close to google.com [00:43] i think it's ok though [00:44] erik__, just remember to ping.. I've no idea why youtube would slow down. I doubt it's your /tmp file [00:44] erik__, how much ram do you have? :) [00:44] 512 [00:44] hmmk, performance issues... [00:44] amd 2400 [00:44] it *might* be because "only" 512 ram [00:44] escpecially if you are running a lot of other apps [00:44] overall [00:45] its still fast [00:45] DSL from a live CD? [00:45] xubuntu [00:45] i installed it [00:46] nevermind.. DSL>.. Damn Small Linux... you mean Digital Subscriber line. :) [00:46] lol [00:46] i downloaded xubuntu an burned it to a cd [00:46] an i tried pc bsd [00:47] Every distro I have tried has maxed out my cpu, It's 700mhz and I have 370 megs of RAM, will Xubuntu 9.04 max out the cpu or not? [00:47] hey... while you guys seem to be spoon feeding me... any idea how to reset the index of the tracker app? [00:47] mib_u58k9mgv, yes. [00:47] 700MHz ain't very fast. [00:48] mib_u58k9mgv, you can use xubuntu with that configuration, but it might be sloq. [00:48] I know, it's a project - save the old pcs that are lingering in the back room [00:48] try fluxbox window manager under xubuntu. Even then it will max out that system. But it will be useable. [00:48] *slow [00:48] is that a pentium 3 or celoron [00:48] Celeron Coppermine [00:49] at 700mhz [00:49] is that a lapton [00:49] Nope [00:49] socket 370 [00:49] It's a ! Open MX33 motherboard [00:49] ! = A [00:49] Sorry, I don't know anything about A [00:49] celeron: not a large cache. [00:50] i find a few pc in buffalo [00:50] sit out for trash [00:50] I know, it's terrible, firefox hangs with one tab open in CrunchBang (minimal ubuntu using openbox) [00:51] a few were junk [00:51] you see once you use firefox, no matter the OS it's going to kill a 700MHz computer. [00:51] but i saved the cpu s [00:51] Yeah, it's midori from now =) [00:51] got a few p4 cpus [00:52] What do people suggest then? Is there anything between xubuntu and DSL [00:52] that I can give a shot? [00:52] dsl linux is lightweight os [00:52] very fast [00:52] I can't work the wireless with it, I'm not that hardcore =) [00:53] i see another os is going to linux kernel [00:54] ? [00:54] there is a os called skyos [00:55] has anyone tried fuxubuntu [00:55] new os's come about constantly... [00:55] never tried it but it looks okay [00:55] no skyos has been around awhile [00:56] I went for #! instead [00:56] oh, sorry [00:56] syllable os [00:56] fluxbuntu is good. [00:56] is a interesting os [00:56] Thanks =) [00:57] I might go for slax tbh [00:57] I have a custom one i made a couple of months ago [00:57] Think backtrack 3 but more lightwieght, with gnome =) [00:58] Right, well thanks alot peeps =) [01:06] does anyone else have problem playing this video? [01:06] http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=230058&title=Peter-Schiff [01:07] both Opera and FF won't play it for me. [01:07] worksforme [01:08] i'm in canada [01:08] I have flashplayer version 10.xxx installed. [01:08] so it says to go to the comedy network to view [01:11] weird stuff here. [01:23] I reinstalled flash but it will only work in FF. [01:24] night [01:41] hi all [01:42] quick question [01:45] aiight] [01:46] !ask [01:46] Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) [01:46] im trying to get java run time [01:50] on what OS? [01:50] xubuntu [01:50] if not ill go pc bsd [01:51] I think that uses synaptic [01:51] no on pc bsd [01:51] so... uh... system>admin> synaptic package manager [01:51] ohh [01:51] on PC bsd... [01:52] java worked ok [01:52] because the JRE is available on xubuntu through the repositories i think [01:52] which is in the synaptic package manager [01:55] openoffice is underrated: http://www.pcworld.com/article/151402-7/the_10_most_overrated_products.html [01:56] gedit/nano fills all my needs! [01:57] for binaries, however, both won't do any good at all. OO or Abiword will be needed for such things. [01:58] actually, Abiword is all I need. [02:00] ok [02:00] i think i figured it out [02:01] still alot to learn [02:05] anyways... thanks ron_o. you've been oodles of help [02:05] erik__, there's a book out called ubuntu kungfu... it doesn't give the basics but it can help you out in performing some incredible tasks. [02:06] for basics I'd recommend an Oreilly book. [03:20] it seems like some xfce libs were downgraded to an old version in xubuntu jaunty [03:20] libexo is at 0.3.1, whereas it seems like the latest version is 0.3.4 [04:16] is there an apt package for java decompilation ? [04:23] it doesnt have to be explicitly for java decompilation but that is a feature that i am in need of [04:28] if any can help me, it would be greatly appreciated. [06:54] hello - noob w/ a prob here - am i the only one? ;o) .... installed xubuntu 9.04 desktop a-ok... on a server... so weak graphics. slow but useable. [06:55] but trying to learn and get opengl working better, i found fglrxinfo and glxinfo ... they didn't run, but the response showed me how to install them. [06:55] my app of choice ( Houdini ) now launches much better. [06:55] i turned the server off. rebooted... now the GUI won't load. it hangs. any help appreciated. [07:00] ... [07:01] gonna go try "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" bbl [07:01] ... [08:07] hello. "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" didn't fix anything. xubuntu still hangs when trying to enter GUI. keyboard is locked. [08:18] hi all [08:20] i screwed up [08:20] now i get error [08:20] anyone here [08:29] hi [08:29] anyone here [08:31] anyone around? [08:32] hi [08:32] my mouse isn't working proply [08:32] the mouse moves around fine [08:32] but clicks don't happen where the mouse is pointing [08:33] and alt+tab doesn't work [08:33] (this issue only occurs occasionally, but usually won't go away until I restart X) [08:33] possibly related to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/41301 ? [08:37] :( anyone [08:40] hmmm, when trying to use the package manager when the mouse is behaving strangely: I get Could not grab your mouse [08:54] daurnimator__: are you on jaunty ? [08:55] yes [08:56] i found more info off of the [x]ubuntu wiki on changing resolutions etc. will give them a try, but another day. good night. [08:58] SiDi, are you able to help? [09:01] daurnimator__: i'm not unfortunately, but i suggest you reopen that bug by giving the people there detailled information on your hardware [09:01] you can also check bugzilla.kernel.org for similar bugs [09:01] I don't think its at all hardware related [09:07] I think I need to do a system reinstall [09:07] the thing is just getting way too cluttered === danopia is now known as VbNet [12:35] hello [12:36] would you recommend converting my existing hard disk from ext3 to ext4? [12:47] i didnt do it (yet), so i cannot really give an advice [13:05] Hello! [13:06] How do I configure ALSA in Xubuntu? [15:13] hiya hiya, I somehow removed/lost my two application launcher menus in xfce (default install), how might I get these back, as they were? [15:14] I haven't been able to locate settings for this [15:14] You still have the panels, right? [15:16] yes [15:17] charlie-tca: yes [15:17] right click the top panel, left click "Add new items", add the "Xfce Menu" [15:17] You can then change the name from Xfce Menu to Applications [15:18] You can add "Places" back the same way [15:23] charlie-tca: ahh.. silly me. thanks! [15:23] You are welcome [15:35] SiDi: so I found a command that fixes my keyboard problem: setxkbmap -option -option lv3:rwin_switch,apple:badmap . Do I have to execute this everytime I boot, if so, where to put it? [15:37] ringo999: you can add it in a file called .initrc [15:37] that you'll put in your main folder [15:38] it'll be executed when your session opens [15:40] <_Pete_> home folder [15:44] alrighty thanks! [15:53] hi all [15:57] hello. how in 8.04 do i set the right small button as middle click in Logitech Trackman Marble? [15:58] Hmm... Don't think that's possible [16:00] i have a question on sudo [16:00] last night i had to reinstall [16:00] Please ask the question, then, erik__ [16:00] vinnl: why. How about xmodmap? [16:00] Oh, might be... But not through the Xfce Settings Manager :) [16:01] open add remove software i got error [16:01] vinnl: do you understand xmodmap? [16:01] said use use [16:01] sudo [16:01] Ben_Cs, sorry [16:01] ok thanks [16:02] erik__: You clicked on it in the menu? [16:02] yah [16:02] an i got rpm file error [16:02] some about repositories use sudo command to fix [16:03] something with that. Xubuntu does not use rpm [16:05] anyway i reinstalled last night [16:07] did you get this error after you reinstalled? [16:10] no its fine now [16:10] Great! :-) [16:10] i guess there was no wayu to repair [16:11] Something was wrong with the sources list, perhaps. It is real hard to fix if it is not doing it now. [16:13] synaptic package manager i use now [16:14] if i dont see the program [16:14] i search there [16:14] What is the program? [16:15] the ones i needed was was java run time an flash player [16:15] i got them install [16:15] plus java runtime plugin [16:22] does anybody know why a cd drive would not be working after a xubuntu install [17:38] Hi. Since I updated to Ubuntu 9.04 the volume control widget has disappeared from my panel and I don't seem to be able to get it back. Anyone tell me how? [17:38] I'd like to troll a bit :D [17:38] FelineMonstrosit: drag it from the list [17:39] It's not on the list. [17:39] hello [17:39] I installed freebsd 7.2 now, because xubuntu 9.04 (targeting old hardware) was freezing my hard drive :( [17:40] hi stephen87 [17:40] 9.04 is doing that to me too [17:40] Dunno why it was doing so, old 40GB IDE drive [17:40] Algyz: #xubuntu-offtopic is better for trolling [17:40] Not interesting for you? :( [17:40] Algyz: I'm there [17:41] Well, I mean xubuntu is targeting old hardware, and then we have laptop-mode-tools or something there :| [17:41] okay [17:41] Algyz: this is a support channel [17:41] Algyz: thre is also #xubuntu-devel [17:41] ah, okay, sry then [17:42] Algyz: Xubuntu is targeting high performance and low RAM usage, actually [17:42] FelineMonstrosit: it is called "mixer" [17:46] Heh. Silly me.:P [17:46] nah, silly name [17:59] stephen87: anything suspicious in dmesg? [18:00] not that ive noticed [18:01] you can see the dmesgs from previous boots in /var/log [18:01] no [18:01] i cant do anything, nothing loads, i cant type at the black screen or anyhting [18:02] i do control-option-del and it reboots the computer and the same thing happens all over again [18:02] is alt+ctrl+f1, f2, etc. giving you text consoles? [18:03] i dont know ill try to boot and see [18:03] brb === SoylentGrun is now known as gaurdro === mobile is now known as stephen87 [18:07] back [18:07] any luck? [18:08] yes i pressed control+alt+f1 [18:08] im using bitchx on a phone sorry if im slow [18:09] i have some text showing that says: [18:10] usplash: no useable theme found for 640x350 [18:10] screen init failed [18:10] 19+0 records in [18:10] can you see a login prompt on alt+ctrl+f2? [18:10] or f3, f4 [18:10] 19+0 records out [18:11] nope just a blinking cursor [18:11] that doesnt write anything i type [18:12] but the f1 screen allows me to type [18:12] is there a decent config utility that will set up dual head under xfce? gnome works out of the box and kde is a screaming nightmare. i'd hoped xfce was a happy medium. [18:14] stephen87: one thing it is failing to do is drwing the splash screen, you can disable that in boot options [18:15] stephen87: when bootig, press esc to get the grub menu, then press 'e' to edit it, and remove the 'splash' word from the options [18:15] stephen87: also remove 'quiet' [18:15] cool :) [18:16] * stephen87 reboots [18:18] holding esc got me nowhere i held it after i chose which kernal to run [18:23] stephen87: no, that was the menu [18:23] i think im going to try the 9.04 alt insta [18:23] oh [18:23] stephen87: you should have pressed 'e' on that menu [18:23] * stephen87 retrys [18:23] stephen87: it will let you edit the kernel options line [18:23]