[00:30] cwillu: around? [00:32] haven't seen cwillu all day [00:36] cwillu: never mind :) [01:12] poek poke [01:12] was in the smallest town in saskatchewan all day [01:12] surprisingly, very good wireless :) [01:12] * cwillu pokes yoasif_ [01:12] * cwillu would poke BUGabundo if he was in the channel :/ [01:13] install-info: No dir file specified; try --help for more information. [01:22] cwillu: had a question about launchpad, bugabundo helped me === yoasif_ is now known as yoasif [01:27] that's no fun :p [01:54] anyone running kubuntu karmic? [01:55] everyone [01:55] kubuntu, not ubuntu [01:58] ah [01:59] not me, not a fan of kde [01:59] * Jeruvy ^^ [02:10] karmic koila, eh? [02:10] well, I don't know what that is, but I suppose it sounds fearsome [02:10] maybe this release is australian or something [02:10] Ubuntu Karmic Koila Alpha 2 | Ubuntu [02:19] ethana2: perhaps its just an animal with k in beginning :p [02:19] well, the last one was mythical, so why not [02:19] ;) [02:49] I don't have to enable UXA if I'm running Karmic, right? It's enabled by default? [02:52] ghindo: I think EXA is still default [02:52] they want to work out more bugs in UXA before making it the default [02:52] check the release notes [02:57] there is nothing besides UXA on intel in karmic anymore [02:58] oh [02:59] Sarvatt: interesting [03:01] Which alpha are we at now? [03:02] matrixblue: alpha2 [03:02] oh nvm I see the topic now [03:05] well i said i would contribute to jaunty and i didn't do eff all last cycle, im gonna help this time around :P [03:05] Sarvatt: So I don't need to edit Xorg.conf to add UXA? [03:06] nope ya dont, it'll ignore anything else you put if you do :) [03:07] Sarvatt: That's what I thought. Thanks! [03:08] ghindo: sorry, I must have misread something [03:08] So, it seems different memory managers are better suited for different kinds of gpu hardware.. [03:09] Do you suppose nVidia will be able to deliver KMS on 9.10? [03:11] How is KMS working out for everybody? [03:11] 99.99999999% chance it wont ethana2 :) [03:12] ethana2: I'm a bit confused by that statement; do you mean nouveau? [03:12] s/statement/question/ [03:31] wtf? seriously? will 9.10 desktop have PAE in kernel? [03:31] why the fuck doesn't 9.04 desktop have PAE in kernel? is there a reason? [03:34] !language | ircnickiuse [03:34] ircnickiuse: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly. === ChanServ changed the topic of #ubuntu+1 to: Welcome to the Ubuntu Karmic Koala (9.10) discussion channel | Karmic is NOT RELEASED and may break your system if you use it. | Schedule https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KarmicReleaseSchedule | Please join #ubuntu for all other support questions | Alpha 2 Released: see http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/karmic/alpha2 | This is NOT a generic chat channel [03:37] yofel, any views on PAE inclusion in a society where all pcs being sold for desktop are being sold with 4gfb of ram. and by all I mean some, and by some I mean I have no idea [03:39] I get all these technologies confused [03:39] ..and all of those desktops sold with 4gb of ram are x64 compatable? [03:39] I just know I don't like proprietary BIOSes cause their defaults are always terrible [03:40] Sarvatt, and very little software is released 64bit versions [03:40] it'd be cool if Ubuntu could automatically install coreboot. [03:40] i think you're thinking of windows there :) [03:41] it'd be cool if coreboot could run on more motherboards [03:41] ok, on topic with +1 [03:41] virtuald: yeah.. [03:41] what work is there ok wiki or elsewhere of the new look and feel? [03:45] you can install the server kernel on jaunty for PAE on i386, pretty sure I read there was going to be a PAE option for i386 in karmic with the server kernel moving to x64 only [03:48] Sarvatt, I know, because I did this, and it screwed the hell out of my system. and by screwed the hell out of, I mean, it was ok and didn't affect it at all, but forced a restart that screwd my sound, when in reality, I didn't need to restart if it wasn't for that PAE, and I could have finished testing [04:53] k i just upgraded to karmic...now i had a raid1 setup with sda1 and sdb1 with my root partition on sdc [04:54] now after the upgrade SDB is root, and sda1 and sdc1 have become the raid drives..... [04:54] my question is now that my raid disks don't automount...where do i configure this? [04:54] now i have to manually start the array with sudo mdadm -A /dev/md0 /dev/sda1 /dev/sdc1 [04:54] and then mount /dev/md0 [05:00] ahoy! this is more a kubuntu+1 question, but that channel is locked, so.... I don't have update-manager so I can't update-manager -d ..... can I just change all "jaunty" to "karmic" is my apt sources and run a dist-upgrade? [05:00] epimeth: "Karmic is NOT RELEASED" @ topic [05:01] Here's something I'm curious of: why does Ubuntu's pavucontrol show my sound card as just "USB Audio", but Fedora show the real-ish name of "Turtle Beach Audio Advantage Roadie"? [05:01] The former name is from aplay -l, the latter is from lsusb. [05:02] eMyller: I know.... I want to test it out! [05:05] i thought alpha2 was going to have empathy instead of pidgin [05:06] nhasian: is Karmic going Empathy? === Froad_ is now known as Froad [05:52] how is karmik koala treating you [05:54] myself, this channel is for those testing karmic; chat in #ubuntu-offtopic [05:56] Is anybody using KMS? [05:57] Is there a channel for ubuntu+1 PPC? [05:57] our ports are always in such rough shape.. [05:57] * ethana2 looks for it [05:58] would it be -powerpc+1 or +1-powerpc ? [06:08] ethana2, just #ubuntu-ppc iirc [06:08] bazhang: yeah, looks like it.. [06:08] ethana2, thats what i read but i guess they havent yet switched to empathy as of alpha2 [06:08] bazhang: no daily liveCDs for 9.10 PPC? === calc` is now known as calc === ScriptRipper_ is now known as ScriptRipper [07:13] anyone try pairing a bluetooth mouse with alpha2? [07:22] anyone know of a way to get thunderbird working with indicator-applet? [07:22] or is this something mozilla has to incorporate? [07:27] billybigrigger, yeah i think mozilla needs to incorperate it [07:29] meh [07:29] goodnight [07:29] :P [07:29] just sucks having to have thunderbird in the bottom panel [07:30] on minimization, would be nice to dock in the system panel you know [07:32] whats the best way to restart sound? [07:32] i filed my first bug report, can anyone check if i did it properly? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bluez/+bug/386224 [07:32] i had sound working, i was listening to music all night [07:32] Launchpad bug 386224 in bluez "[karmic] unable to pair with MS bluetooth Laser Mouse 8000" [Undecided,New] [07:32] now i go to watch a movie and i can't get sound working in anything, movies, music, totem or vlc [07:33] billybigrigger, if you log out and then log back in does it fix the sound? No need to reboot, just log out [07:33] your bug report looks ok [07:33] can you reproduce the bug? [07:33] you might want to paste some lsub or dmesg outputs for other debugging aswell [07:34] well it happens to me consistantly. i am hoping someone else can reproduce it as well to confirm it [07:35] logout fixed it [07:35] actually no it didnt [07:36] i had logout sound and login sounds [07:36] nothing in vlc [07:36] billybigrigger, i think thats from pulseaudio [07:36] music works [07:36] must be vlc [07:36] doesnt vlc have a pulseaudio plugin? [07:37] billybigrigger, make sure you have vlc-plugin-pulse installed [07:37] is that new in karmic? [07:38] i just upgraded today and this is the first time using vlc since [07:38] nope i used it in jaunty as well [07:38] well vlc worked fine in jaunty without it [07:38] but thanks [07:38] that worked great [07:39] great i'm glad it fixed it [07:39] you reminded me to install vlc too [07:39] now for hellanzb [07:40] hehe [07:40] now i can watch some tv eps before bed, thanks! [07:40] and goodnight all [07:41] ooh [07:41] finally vlc is fixed!!! the video window is in the same window and the control bar [07:41] awesome! haha [07:45] question will it be okay to install a program from someone's ppa using their jaunty package if they dont have a karmic one? [07:47] probably, but not necessarily [07:48] Depends on what the package is. [07:48] oh yeah, does nvidia 185 (or whatever) work on Karmic? [07:50] DanaG, so far i used the jaunty repos for Gnome-Do and LottaNZB and they are working in Karmic [07:50] Those are non-system-level apps; should be fine. [07:51] Things like Xorg would be the things to avoid mixing. [07:51] thanks that makes sense [07:51] what is lottanzb, anyway? [07:52] its just a front end for hellanzb binary newsreader [07:52] ah. === zniavre__ is now known as zniavre [08:35] Just tried the Xinput2 stuff... with MPX. [08:35] I must say... it rocks. [08:36] Now... is there a way to attach the same keyboard to two different places? [08:38] your speaking greek to me [08:38] my speaking greek to you? =þ -- tease on the "your" [08:43] what is Xinput2 and MPX? [08:44] i'm on a roll. I added another bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/386239 [08:44] Launchpad bug 386239 in ubuntu "[karmic] unable to mount fat32 filesystem via usb" [Undecided,New] [08:45] ah, MPX -- Multi-Pointer X. [08:48] whats the purpose of that? [08:48] google it, and you'll find some amusing-ness. [08:50] okay... but the apps aren't USING mpx. [08:51] are usb thumbdrives supposed to be auto-mounted in /media/cdrom0? or is that a bug? [08:52] That's a bug. [08:55] wow 3 bugs i ran into tonight. alpha2 really IS as buggy as they said :) [09:06] DanaG, I saw the youtube video of MPX. it looks really neat but i cant imagine a real life scenario where it would be useful [09:07] hmm, it might be useful for teaching people how to do things. [09:07] No more fighting over the mouse -- just guide the person around with the "other" pointer/ [09:07] . [09:09] kinda like remote desktop [09:09] Yeah. Though apps right now tend to deal badly with it. [09:10] Like, trying to draw in gimp locks up compiz or metacity. [10:13] bons dias [14:18] Hi folks [14:39] hi BluesKaj [14:39] hi BUGabundo === defcon is now known as Guest41527 === lakin__ is now known as lakin [15:41] anybody know how to convert koala desktop cd to alternate cd, I downloaded Desktop cd for alpha1 [15:42] sorry alpha 2 [15:48] vaibhav: You can't. [15:49] vaibhav: as jpds said, you can't! [15:49] do you really need it ? [15:51] yeah [15:51] it took several hours(8 to be precise ) to download it [15:51] http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies-archive.cfm/965134.html [15:51] errr [15:51] here it is mentioned of doing it somehow using jigdo [15:51] that a while [15:52] I just got several dailis, cds, dvds, 32 and 64bis [15:52] took me less then 4h [15:52] but I use rsync [15:52] vaibhav: do you have a previous alternate cd? [15:52] I am in a 3rd world country where connection are very slow [15:52] no I don't have alternate cd [15:52] maybe you can use rsync and just get the diffs [15:53] is there a way of using it somehow to minimize the download from internet [15:59] nope [15:59] there is the minimal cd [15:59] its only 8MiBs [15:59] but you still have to download all you need to install, aafter [17:06] since when is UNR an ISO?? [17:06] http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-netbook-remix/daily-live/current/ [17:54] hi all [17:55] how can I make the wifi button to work? [17:55] ola m_tadeu [17:55] on karmic? [17:55] yup [17:56] what wifi card? [17:56] athreos ar5bxb63 === DanaG1 is now known as DanaG [17:58] ahh those [17:58] hehe those [17:59] try enableing backports and instaling the backpor modules for the kernel [17:59] if that doesn't work [17:59] download and install mainline kernel [17:59] !mainline | m_tadeu [17:59] Sorry, I don't know anything about mainline [18:00] m_tadeu: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelMainlineBuilds [18:00] mainlie kernel? never heard about it [18:08] backports modules are already installed [18:08] reboot [18:08] see you soon [18:09] not that...I already had them installed before this boot [18:10] oh ok [18:10] then try mainline [18:12] Er, there won't be anything in backports on Karmic. Also, this could be due to the hal depreciation noted in the alpha2 notes. [18:12] ahh [18:12] haven't read those yet [18:12] mail back log [18:12] See /topic [18:12] let me see it [18:14] well at least that explains why I lost my Power button [18:39] so should I just install devicekit-power? [18:40] does it take care of the wiki enable/desable button? [19:04] another question is [19:04] the brighness control sometimes doesn't work [19:31] anyone having problems with sound in flash? [19:55] on which browser , billybigrigger ? [19:55] firefox [19:55] 3.0.10 [19:55] is this a known issue? [19:56] sound is working for every other aspect on the system, but not in flash [19:56] is there a firefox/flash/pulse plugin i need to install or something i am missing? [19:56] because sound wouldn't work for me yesterday in vlc unless i installed vlc-plugin-pulse, which was a new issue to me in karmic [19:57] billybigrigger, I think it might be (k)ubuntu-extracodecs [19:57] im pretty sure i have that installed [19:58] err [19:58] nope, no such package === yofel_ is now known as yofel [20:00] kubuntu-restricted-extras [20:01] im running gnome [20:03] ubuntu-restricted-extras [20:03] already installed [20:05] obviously you have flashplugin-nonfree [20:06] yeah === defcon is now known as Guest52397 === bluesmoke_ is now known as Amaranth [20:55] Evening peeps, how unstable is Karmic at the moment (other than the obvious very) [21:07] daubers: Karmic works fine for me. No issues yet. [21:07] daubers, not too bad , the odd frozen or disappearing cursor [21:08] unresponsive apps , sometimes [21:12] BluesKaj: Might start testing that then. No longer have any urgent need for my computer so happy to help test :) [21:39] daubers: I think it's fairly good, though I'd be wary if you have software raid [21:39] or any raid or devicemapper fancyness, actually [21:41] gnome notifications - I'm currently using ubuntu 9.10 x64 and I was trying to find the best way to have growl-esque notifications when using pidgin, firefox, etc. I've tried mumbles, but it doesn't seem to work properly on ubuntu x64. [21:43] maxb: Nope, bog standardy laptop [21:49] lifecurbed: have you tried the firefox-notifications package? [21:50] sorry, firefox-notify [21:53] Hi guys, hoping someone can point me in the right direction here :) [21:53] I've been using ubuntu for a few years now, and have recently gotten into python and have been writing programs at work [21:54] I'd like to try and get involved in some wider ubuntu development, with python [21:54] so if anyone can suggest some decent wiki's about getting involved and any suggestion for python packages that need hacking for karmic that'd be great :) [21:56] sarvatt : nope, not yet. I'll check that out though. any solutions for pidgin? [21:56] sarvatt : sorry - i meant to erase the pidgin thing [21:57] sarvatt : pidgin has built in notifications that look wonderful :) [21:57] pidgin has a libnotify popup plugin that uses the same thing as the firefox-notify [21:58] should be installed by default? probably the one you are referring to [21:58] ah package is pidgin-libnotify === Lunar_La1p is now known as Lunar_Lamp [22:42] Touchpad click broken @ Karmic ? ;) [22:44] dupondje: yup, bug 378391 [22:44] Launchpad bug 378391 in xserver-xorg-input-synaptics "Source rename clobbered local changes (so tapping not working in Karmic)" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/378391 [22:44] owkej :D [22:45] the pain of using Alfa :p [22:52] yofel: also having some 'buzz' sound comming from my computer, its weird :P [22:57] hm, don't know about that. Iirc they changed something in alsa for better power saving. Now I get clicks when the card get's turned on/off ^^ [22:58] kind of not a bug in the sense that being disabled by default when a touchpad has multiple buttons is by design upstream, but ubuntu carries patches that force it enabled by default that arent applied to the latest package in the archive [22:59] synclient TapButton1=1 enables it, or can use gpointing-device-settings until it gets fixed though [23:02] trying :D [23:02] btw, how can I enable CTRL+V to paste ? [23:03] Sarvatt: thx, didn't know that XD [23:04] gpointing-device-settings doesn't work imo :s [23:04] dupondje: should be working by default that way, are you talking about in a specific app that changes it? (like in gnome-terminal its defaulted to control shift v instead and you can change it in the profile preferences) [23:05] thats what I needed to know :) it was indeed only in gnome-terminal [23:05] works great here, i love gpointing-device-settings :D someone was saying it wasnt installing an icon for them though if thats what you mean [23:06] can make one manually pointing to /usr/bin/gpointing-device-settings or just run gpointing-device-settings in terminal if thats the problem [23:07] no, tapping is enabled in gpointing-device-settings, but its not workin :D [23:08] ahh gotcha, yeah now that i look there isnt even a enable or disable tapping option in there is there lol [23:08] i like it for the multi finger options :D [23:10] yellow, I need to dowload the full dvd where can I get it? [23:10] www.ubuntu.com/testing ? [23:11] i thought hey were dvd, sorry [23:12] im haveing problems in 8.04 that seem to be resovled in the 9.10 kernal [23:14] dupondje: Sarvatt discussing the tab bug on karmic?? [23:14] its dead. and reported and triagged [23:14] Dominik: what version? jaunty (stable) or karmic (devel) ? [23:14] tab bug? [23:14] dunno [23:14] i need the latest kernal .30 [23:14] i belive [23:15] i dont even want to install 9.10 I just want to grab the kernal [23:18] is there an alternative location to download 9.10 the cdimag.eubuntu.com is kinda slow [23:20] Dominik: if u just need other kernel [23:20] try http://kernel.ubuntu.com [23:20] Dominik: you can install the latest kernel on stabel relases too [23:20] u can just get you a newer kernel there :P [23:20] its called Mainline [23:20] well I don't know what to do, maybe you can help [23:21] i have 8.04 but no internet since it doesn't recognize me ethernet adapter [23:21] this is supposed to be fixed in the latest kernal [23:21] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelMainlineBuilds [23:21] try this then Dominik [23:21] i was going to burn the cd and add it to the software sources then I should be able to install kernal [23:22] oh nice [23:22] can you help me installing the kernal? [23:22] just follow what says there [23:22] you download the version you want for your arch! [23:22] k, i need the 2.6.30 but there are several versions.. ? [23:22] LOLOL [23:22] use the one on the bottom LOL [23:22] ? [23:23] put all in a folder [23:23] http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/?C=M;O=D [23:23] Dominik: using 32 or 64 bis? [23:23] *bits [23:23] 64 [23:23] i7 [23:24] http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v2.6.30/linux-source-2.6.30_2.6.30-020630_all.deb [23:24] http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v2.6.30/linux-image-2.6.30-020630-generic_2.6.30-020630_amd64.deb [23:24] http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v2.6.30/linux-headers-2.6.30-020630_2.6.30-020630_all.deb [23:24] http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v2.6.30/linux-headers-2.6.30-020630-generic_2.6.30-020630_amd64.deb [23:24] wow, overwhelming me here : ( [23:25] get this debs and put them into a folder [23:25] k [23:25] Dominik: just 4 links dude [23:25] got it lol [23:27] how come this server so much faster then the cdimage.ubuntu.com [23:28] less load? [23:28] k got em all, let me check [23:29] k, what now? [23:29] burn on cd? [23:29] open a terminal [23:29] no CD need [23:29] now navigate from the terminal to where ever you stored the debs [23:29] these files are not on ubuntu [23:29] they are on cent os [23:29] ubuntu doesn't connect to the internet [23:29] it refuses to recognize that i have an eth adapter [23:31] ahhhhhhhhhhhhh [23:31] ok [23:31] then you need to put them on some place you can access from Ubuntu [23:31] ill reboot into ubuntu as soon as it has finished writing them to cd [23:31] why are you putting on CD? [23:31] is this on the same machine? [23:31] ya [23:31] ohhh [23:31] dammm [23:31] if so put it on disc and then access from the other OS [23:31] i suck [23:32] :( [23:32] preted im reading it form the hdd :P [23:34] alright started up [23:34] what do I do [23:34] now open a terminal [23:35] now navigate from the terminal to where ever you stored the debs [23:35] got it [23:35] then run [23:35] sudo dpkg -i linux* [23:36] hang on im haveing directory problems [23:37] LOL [23:37] ok, simple operation accompished [23:37] reboot [23:38] choose the kernel [23:38] and let us know [23:38] errors were encountered while processing linux image 2.6.30.020630-generic [23:38] oops [23:39] i need to redowload? [23:39] is it possible you're using ubuntu 32 bit even though your cpu is 64 bit Dominik? [23:39] shouldn't [23:39] Sarvatt: maybe! [23:39] no it should be, id cry if I am [23:39] I asked him [23:39] how do i check [23:39] Dominik: paste: uname -a [23:39] what does uname -m say? [23:39] x86_64 [23:40] so it 64 bits [23:40] k [23:42] that file is only 611kb [23:42] yea seems right, mhh [23:42] bugabundo i can't paste im typing from a windows mashine, my ubuntu has no internet [23:43] ok [23:43] no prob [23:43] Linux dominik-desktop 2.6.24-23-generic #1 SMP Thu Nov 27 18:13:46 UTC 2008 x86_64 GNU/Linux [23:44] thats uname -a [23:45] nothing else in the output that says what the error was when you try to install it? [23:45] ok starting from Done. [23:46] Selecting previously deselected package linux source 2.6.30 [23:46] unpacking linux source 2.6.30 [23:46] .. [23:46] setting up linux headers 2.6.30.020630 [23:46] setting up linux headers 2.6.30 020630 generic [23:46] * BUGabundo poor guy [23:46] just the image parts are important since it failed on that [23:46] sorry you have to type it all, yeah :( [23:47] dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of linux image 2.6.30 020630 generic [23:47] linux image 2.6.30 020630 generic depends on wireless crda however package wireless crda is not installed [23:47] ah hah [23:47] sudo apt-get install wireless-crda then try again? [23:47] have i typed enough? [23:47] yep [23:48]