[00:00] <bill-e1> hi all
[00:00] <Dethroned> Do I need to change unallocated HD space to the same Ext3 format as Ubuntu in order to combine the partitions?
[00:00] <utueh> Dethroned: you using lvm?
[00:01] <Dethroned> lvm?
[00:01] <utueh> linux volume manager
[00:01] <Dethroned> GPart
[00:01] <Hilikus> for reliability, should i go with ext4 or jfs?
[00:01] <utueh> Dethroned: are the partitions side by side?
[00:01] <texasjack> Teltariat, that's the fatal reason that I never ever upgraded an OS...  Always install'em from "zero"...
[00:02] <Teltariat> texasjack: too much stuff on here for me to star from scratch again
[00:02] <Teltariat> just can't do that
[00:02] <Dethroned> utueh: my linux partition is broken up into 3 parts.  there's 2 2 gig parts and then the swap.  the unallocated is right above the first 2 gig part
[00:02] <Hilikus> Teltariat me too, i've been updating since 7.1 without a problem. just to let you know its ok to do that
[00:02] <Dethroned> which I don't think is the actual ubuntu
[00:02] <bill-e1> I'm kinda new to linux and have a few questions I I may.  First, when installed eeeubuntu on my asus 1000he, it asked for may name and a password.  When I go into terminal and type "su -" and give that password it doest accept it.  so my question is how do I get superuser access?
[00:02] <texasjack> Teltariat, yeah.  Every case is different.  Here the backups are made weekly. =)
[00:02] <Teltariat> heh
[00:03] <Teltariat> Hilikus: you've no doubt experienced quirks when upgrading, yes?
[00:03] <Hilikus> Teltariat yes, but never losing stuff
[00:03] <Teltariat> like right now
[00:03] <utueh> Dethroned: well, you should be able to delete the second part, then resize the first, though be carefull
[00:03] <Teltariat> my machine can't open PDF's
[00:03] <texasjack> Dethroned, one thing: gparted is secure.  I never had one single problem with.
[00:03] <ohir> bill-e1: use sudo
[00:04] <Dethroned> utueh:  I want to know how to the combine the allocated with the actual ubuntu partition
[00:04] <ohir> bill-e1: ubuntu way is: sudo command_that_must_be_run_with_root_priviledges
[00:05] <texasjack> bill-e1, Ubuntu, per default, block the super user access.  Use sudo instead.
[00:05] <ohir> bill-e1: for more information about sudo: read (in terminal) man sudo
[00:05] <Dethroned> One of the partitions is labeled Extended...the other is EXt3 and the last is swap
[00:05] <Teltariat> oh you guys rock!  "apt-get --reinstall install nautilus-data" & "apt-get --reinstall install shared-mime-info" worked; problem is fixed, and on top of that I can open PDFs again
[00:05] <Teltariat> Thank you
[00:05] <utueh> Dethroned: my last suggestion should result in you having one big partition, were you to want to combine them look into lvm
[00:05] <texasjack> Teltariat, ;) I told 'ya, brotha tux! =P
[00:05] <utueh> though lvm would be pointless from what i have heard of you case
[00:05] <bill-e1> ok, so can I browse the directories like that.  I want to edit the grub.conf so I can add my Moblin SD card to the boot list....is that possible?
[00:06] <AssociateX> Hello
[00:06] <bdizzle> hi, having a slight error with the package manager. it was doing an auto update and it froze in the middle of it
[00:06] <Dethroned> utueh: All I want to know is how to combine an unallocated partition with my EXT3 partition...do I need to convert the unallocated to EXT3 in order to combine them?
[00:06] <Jeruvy> !grub | bill-e1: there are some issues with SD cards, but as for grub
[00:06] <deluxor> hello  ALLL
[00:07] <AssociateX> no matter what app I open the windowing system is not working, the app shows but no borders
[00:07] <bdizzle> I tried switching to command line, but it won't let me use "sudo apt-get install <package name>" stating that there is an administrative lock on it. Anyonek know how to get out of that lock?
[00:07] <oenone> can I use my usb headset in ubuntu 9.04
[00:07] <oenone> a4tech usb headset
[00:07] <utueh> Dethroned: no, just expand the first is the unallocated is right beside it
[00:07] <utueh> expand = resize
[00:07] <bill-e1> thanks
[00:07] <ohir> bill-e1: sudo 'youreditor' filetoedit
[00:07] <Dethroned> utueh:  It's above it...they are listed vertically
[00:08] <utueh> Dethroned: i have done that before with gparted, worked fine
[00:08] <texasjack> bdizzle, synaptic or Update Manger, or some kind of this, is running in background.  You have to stop and kill that process...
[00:08] <bdizzle> okay
[00:08] <bdizzle> thanks
[00:08] <utueh> Dethroned: what partition program are you using, what verioin of ubuntu?
[00:08] <Dethroned> utueh: Gpart and 9.04
[00:08] <bdizzle> got it, thank you all
[00:09] <texasjack> bdizzle, a single log out may resolve if you can't catch the right process.
[00:09] <Dethroned> utueh:  Do I want to extend the part of the partition labeled "Extended" or "EXT3"
[00:09] <methtownblue> hey everyone
[00:10] <Joseph3315> hey
[00:10] <methtownblue> what's up
[00:10] <AssociateX> what is the windowing system called?
[00:10] <AssociateX> my apps have no borders
[00:10] <Joseph3315> losers
[00:10] <AssociateX> lol
[00:11] <texasjack> Dethroned, there are 2 types of partitions: Primary and Extended. MAX: Primary = 4. Extended = 255 (but the Extended partition is one of the four primary...). Nothing to do with ext3.  I guess...
[00:11] <VCoolio> AssociateX: try "metacity --replace"
[00:11] <Jeruvy> !pm | oenone
[00:12] <oenone> how do I get to pm
[00:12] <oenone> I new to this so
[00:12] <MyWay> I'm using vino + vncviewer, if i don't disable compiz on the server, the screen on the client doesn't refresh until i reconnect to the server, why?
[00:12] <oenone> !pm
[00:12] <texasjack> AssociateX, twm. =)  Just kiddin'...  But for curiosity, how do you install xorg without ANY window manager?
[00:13] <oenone> !help
[00:13] <bazhang> oenone, best to ask in channel not PM people
[00:13] <oenone> where can I ask?
[00:13] <bazhang> oenone, ask here
[00:14] <oenone> ok
[00:14] <oenone> ill try
[00:14] <oenone> how do I install a usb heatset in ubuntu 9.04
[00:14] <oenone> ?
[00:16] <bazhang> oenone, a hardware install?
[00:16] <texasjack> oenone, no idea...
[00:16] <bazhang> oenone, or do you mean a headset?
[00:16] <oenone> headset
[00:16] <UnderPressure> hi
[00:16] <oenone> I have an a4tech usb headset
[00:16] <oenone> but I can't get it to work on ubuntu 9.04
[00:16] <bazhang> oenone, are you trying to use skype with a usb headset? or something else
[00:17] <oenone> yup
[00:17] <oenone> and also if I want to listen to musik
[00:17] <chronicusprime> weird situation here.
[00:17] <oenone> but I can't get it to work
[00:17] <chronicusprime> my system cannot find acpi-cpufreq
[00:17] <chronicusprime> nor speedstep centrino
[00:17] <bazhang> yep to skype? or yep to something else?
[00:17] <oenone> both
[00:18] <bazhang> oenone, how did you install skype?
[00:18] <oenone> I want to use my usb headset for skype , yahoo, and listening to music
[00:18] <oenone> but I can't
[00:18] <texasjack> bazhang, www.skype.com
[00:18] <errors-FoFo> can someone help me with a question?
[00:19] <methtownblue> yep
[00:19] <sofia1> Hi All, Does anyone know where the functionality of Alt+Printscreen is ?
[00:19] <errors-FoFo> i cant take a ss or record a demo one et game
[00:19] <errors-FoFo> :S
[00:19] <errors-FoFo> *enemy territory game
[00:19] <bazhang> oenone, did you use the skype repo, or the medibuntu one
[00:20] <oenone> sorry sir but I don't know
[00:20] <errors-FoFo> i've already give premissions to the folder
[00:20] <errors-FoFo> but it still wont work
[00:20] <errors-FoFo> :S
[00:20] <oenone> btw can I use my headset to listen to musik ?
[00:21] <texasjack> sofia1, I think it's grab a image shot of the active windows you are. Just PrintScreen takes a shot from the hole screen.  But depends if you have some program to do this.
[00:21] <zaidric> Is general bash help appropriate for this channel? It involves batch converting mp3 files.
[00:21] <bazhang> oenone, which headset? let me do a search on ubuntuforums
[00:21] <chronicusprime> Can anyone help me with acpi-cpufreq?
[00:21] <Gustavo> in konquerer I can see a samba share under smb://  What is the equivalent mount point in the file system? I need to cp to a remote share
[00:22] <oenone> A4tech hd-800 usb headset
[00:22] <cypha> HOw do you start something minimized?
[00:22] <texasjack> bazhang, don't have a Ubuntu package for Skpye in the official site?
[00:22] <sofia1>  texasjack: Do you know of the utility that does that screenshotting ?
[00:22] <bazhang> texasjack, in medibuntu.org repos
[00:22] <texasjack> sofia1, what Window Manager do you use?
[00:22] <kfogel> When I iconified my Emacs (in X Windows, Gnome, on Jaunty), it just disappears.  I can't see it on my bottom task bar anywhere.  I know it didn't exit, because if I start up a new one, the new one complains that it can't start emacs-server because another one is already running.
[00:22] <kfogel> How can I un-minimize my Emacs? :-)
[00:22] <Hilikus> is there any GUI to configure fstab?
[00:23] <sofia1>  texasjack, I am using jaunty...so compiz I think
[00:23] <bazhang> texasjack, also skype has repos
[00:23] <texasjack> sofia1, hummm.... Try gnome-screenshot.  But have some program that's very tiny and does the same job...
[00:23] <chronicusprime> Can anyone help me with acpi-cpufreq? D:
[00:23] <chronicusprime> It doesn't seem to exist
[00:23] <sofia1>  texasjack: I actually want to take screenshot of just active window
[00:23] <texasjack> sofia1, compiz IS NOT a Window Manager... It's just a program that makes you're Window Manager looks 'like a charm'.
[00:24] <sofia1> So I am wondering if there is a utility that does that
[00:24] <sofia1>  texasjack, how can I know what window manager I am using ?
[00:25] <texasjack> sofia1, search for gnome-screenshot, 'cause now I don't remember the name of the other one that's tiny...  I always forgot the name of it... But it's the same thing.
[00:25] <FeasibilityStudy> sofia1 compiz has a screenshot utility built in.  You can enable it in CCSM
[00:25] <Ed54_> what should i choose for the cpu when compiling a kernel?  i did cat /proc/cpuinfo and got "cpu family: 6"
[00:25] <zaidric> I have a bunch of mp3 files in /media/BLACKBERRY2/BlackBerry/music/$ARTIST/$Album/$SONGNAME.mp3, I want to batch convert them to 128kbps mp3 to save space. I know lame can encode an mp3 file, but how do I convert them? I think it would be someting like "<mp3 decoder program> | lame -b 128"
[00:26] <VCoolio> sofia1: "gnome-screenshot -i" will give you dialog with options
[00:26] <texasjack> sofia1, press <PrintScreen> and see what happens.  If appears the hole screen in a viewer, probably you're using GNOME, KDE or XFCE, so far as I know....
[00:26] <sofia1>  texasjack, there is a program called xwd that takes dump of the window but if there is another window on top of it...it takes screen shot of that too
[00:26] <bazhang> http://forum.skype.com/index.php?showtopic=340581 oenone
[00:26] <oenone> thanks ill try this
[00:26] <texasjack> sofia1, you have to set a timer... try 'xwd --help' to see if it got it.
[00:27] <guest2> Question on the installer for 9.04: at the point of "ready to install", do I need to click "advanced" to tell it do install dual-boot-loader or will it do so automatically...
[00:27] <texasjack> Ed54_, cat /proc/cpuinfo tells you everything you need to know what's your processor, not just the family of the CPU.
[00:28] <guest2> question continued: and if "advanced" do I have to specify the location of the boot loader or will the default work?
[00:28] <sofia1> VCoolio, texasjack : there is no package called gnome-screenshot...
[00:29] <Ed54_> texasjack: so where do i find the cpu family?
[00:29] <sofia1> Do you know the package that contains the gnome-screenshot?
[00:29] <VCoolio> sofia1: ? did you enter it in terminal or alt-F2 window? I think it comes default with Ubuntu
[00:29] <texasjack> sofia1, so it's inside another one...  I really sorry, but I can't remember the name of any program, except gnome-screenshot, that does what you want to do.
[00:30] <texasjack> Ed54_, "cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep -i family"
[00:30] <VCoolio> sofia1: enter it in terminal; it the command is not found it will tell you what package you need
[00:30] <sofia1> VCoolio, texasjack: Where can I find the source for gnome-screenshot
[00:30] <Ed54_> i'm still just getting "cpu family: 6"
[00:31] <k1rb_E> im trying to show my desktop on a projector .. im using svideo out on my video ... the projector screen is solid blue
[00:31] <kunago> Does anyone have any experience with USB DVB devices? Mine seems not be creating any frontend and there appears to be no clear solution to this.
[00:31] <bazhang> sofia1, perhaps in gnome-utils
[00:31] <Ed54_> and that doesn't help me with choosing the cpu family when compiling
[00:31] <ubuntu> hello. I have screwed my boot loader and now I am running the ubuntu boot cd. what is the easiest way to re-install the boot loader so that I can boot the existing systems_
[00:31] <texasjack> Ed54_, type just "cat /proc/cpuinfo" and see the whole lines that appears...
[00:32] <Ed54_> it doesn't list anything other than 6 on that line
[00:32] <FeasibilityStudy> anyone ever noticed that Exaile is a major memory hog?  It has a memory leak somewhere.  It starts off using a marginal 60MB and after several hours it is hogging over 300MB.
[00:32] <bazhang> FeasibilityStudy, sounds like a bug
[00:32] <texasjack> sofia1, I think you'll find it at www.gnome.org...  But you don't need to do this. Go to a terminal and type: "sudo synaptic"
[00:32] <redorange> How can solve visual effects>>desktop effects could not be enabled problem???
[00:33] <bazhang> !gksudo | texasjack sofia1
[00:33] <texasjack> Ed54_, yes, I know, but that line is JUST the family of your CPU, nothing else....
[00:33] <FeasibilityStudy> bazhang Yeah.  However, I am using it with KDE, so that could be an issue.
[00:33] <k1rb_E> im trying to show my desktop on a projector .. im using svideo out on my video ... the projector screen is solid blue... anyone know what i need to do?
[00:33] <texasjack> bazhang, ubottu, thanks... Didn't know about this. o.O
[00:34] <redorange> desktop effects could not be enable problem
[00:34] <sebsebseb> !thanks |  texasjack
[00:34] <bazhang> redorange, what vid card
[00:34] <texasjack> ubottu, I know, brother tux! ;)
[00:34] <redorange> x3100
[00:34] <sofia1> I am actually trying to get screenshots of windows without the titlebar
[00:34] <cypha> HOW DO YOU START AN APPLICATION MINIMZED?
[00:34] <AssociateX> what is the windowing system called?
[00:34] <cypha> WHAT'S THE SWITCH?
[00:34] <AssociateX> my apps have no borders
[00:34] <FloodBot1> cypha: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:34] <redorange> standard laptop graphics
[00:34] <bazhang> cypha, lose the caps
[00:34] <sofia1> Does any1 know how to get screenshot without titlebar?
[00:35] <lstarnes> cypha: it depends on the program
[00:35] <texasjack> sofia1, please, follow these steps: go to a terminal and type: "gksudo synaptic"
[00:35] <lstarnes> cypha: there may not be one
[00:35] <bazhang> redorange, do you have the drivers enabled
[00:35] <cypha> i want to start skype when the computer starts
[00:35] <cypha> but i want it to start minimized
[00:35] <utueh> AssociateX: right click desktop, look at themes...
[00:35] <cypha> same with google gadgets
[00:35] <k1rb_E> im trying to show my desktop on a projector .. im using svideo out on my video ... the projector screen is solid blue... anyone know what i need to do?
[00:36] <sofia1> ok...I did that gksudo synaptic
[00:36] <redorange> bazhang: how can i enable them they are not in hardware drivers
[00:36] <oenone> how do I remove pulseaudio?
[00:36] <utueh> cypha try a 'skype -h' from a terminal and see it that has a way to do that (like: skype --minimized)
[00:36] <AssociateX> utueh: that does not show up in the menu
[00:36] <texasjack> sofia1, now click on the button "Search" and looks for 'screenshot', and select "Description and Name".
[00:37] <utueh> AssociateX: oops, missed that 'change desktop background' part... then themes
[00:37] <lstarnes> oenone: why do you need to remove it?
[00:37] <cypha> utueh: didn't work
[00:37] <utueh> cypha, what did it say?
[00:37] <oenone> so that mu usb headset will work
[00:37] <cypha> skype [options]
[00:37] <cypha> and then listed the options
[00:37] <sofia1> cool thanks texasjack
[00:37] <VCoolio> oenone: http://idyllictux.wordpress.com/2009/04/21/ubuntu-904-jaunty-keeping-the-beast-pulseaudio-at-bay/
[00:38] <redorange> visual effects not working intel x3100 graphics
[00:38] <kalon33> good night
[00:38] <utueh> cypha, that's what we were after, no option for minimized eh?
[00:38] <oenone> I need to remove pulse audio so that my usb headset would work
[00:38] <cypha> nope
[00:38] <oenone> that's what I read
[00:38] <cypha> there isn't a linux option of doing it?
[00:38] <cypha> like windows has
[00:38] <oenone> I don't know if it would work
[00:39] <texasjack> sofia1, now choose one from the many applications that synaptics have listed, and gonna trying... Almost every 'screenshooter' have the option to take a shot of the lonely window, without titlebar...
[00:39] <texasjack> sofia1, and you're welcome.  For those about Ubuntu, I salute you! ;)
[00:39] <utueh> cypha, maybe, but i'm unaware of one, have you checked in preferences of skype? maybe something about notification area...
[00:39] <cypha> nope
[00:39] <cypha> no option for it
[00:39] <cypha> i checked
[00:40] <utueh> cypha: well good luck, the only start option i'm aware of for X11 is the --geometry to set where a program starts on the screen
[00:40] <AssociateX> utueh: that is for the theme but I still don't have any widowing system. I can't move any app because none of them have borders.
[00:40] <cypha> hmm
[00:40] <cypha> k
[00:40] <cypha> thanks utueh
[00:41] <dudeguy> Hi everyone. I opened a lot of images in different tabs in firefox and when i go to each tab and right click the image and select "save image as" it starts downloading the image again instead of just saving it from the temp files, since the image has already been (down)loaded. How chan i fix this? Thanks
[00:41] <Gustavo> I want to print the output of "cp" both to the scree and to a file ... is there a special pipe command that lets me do that?
[00:41] <Flannel> Gustavo: command | tee /path/to/file
[00:41] <utueh> AssociateX: wow, how'd you do that? can't pick another theme? no window manager? was that like that from the start? you using gnome?
[00:41] <Gustavo> Flannel, thank you!
[00:41] <AssociateX> I wish I could just restart my desktop
[00:41] <redorange> how can i solve visuaş effects problem
[00:42] <cypha> ok, i force quitted skype
[00:42] <cypha> and now it thinks it's still running and won't let me sign in
[00:42] <utueh> AssociateX: reboots work sometimes :)
[00:42] <AssociateX> utueh: no this is something new.
[00:42] <ty5479> Can somebody help me with an issue. I had an issue with grub. Where somebody removed the ubuntu partition. Now I have an error code 17. I'm trying to get it back to boot into windows.  Fixboot and FixMBR. Dont work
[00:42] <worm> Hello, does Mplayer handle dvd menu ? I can't figure out how to it
[00:42] <lstarnes> cypha: you need to be very careful when force-quitting networked programs
[00:42] <worm> show*
[00:42] <cypha> k
[00:42] <AssociateX> utueh:  the window manager is not working.
[00:42] <AssociateX>  Just X
[00:42] <cypha> how can i properly end it?
[00:43] <AssociateX> heck with it, I'll restart X
[00:43] <cypha> lstarnes: ?
[00:43] <utueh> AssociateX: do a <ctrl><alt>f1, logon, and then a 'sudo reboot'
[00:44] <lstarnes> cypha: the window close button is usually sufficient
f7  to get back to x11 (windows)
[00:44] <cypha> yeah
[00:44] <cypha> but it's not letting me sign in now
[00:44] <cypha> what can i do?
[00:44] <lstarnes> cypha: give it a few minutes to time out
[00:44] <cypha> k
[00:44] <lstarnes> cypha: and make sure it's not still running in the background.  check ps aux | grep skype
[00:46] <cypha> lstarnes: what am i looking for once i type that?
[00:46] <cypha> it shows two things
[00:46] <lstarnes> cypha: pastebin it
[00:47] <cypha> just two lines
[00:47] <cypha> raj       6315 81.7  2.8 245724 57324 ?        Sl   Jun10 1230:10 skype
[00:47] <cypha> raj      17277  0.0  0.0   3336   804 pts/2    S+   19:46   0:00 grep skype
[00:47] <lstarnes> cypha: pastebin it
[00:47] <lstarnes> cypha: anything longer than one line should usually be pastebinned
[00:47] <utueh> AssociateX: better?
[00:47] <AssociateX> dang
[00:47] <cypha> k, sorry
[00:47] <AssociateX> no
[00:47] <lstarnes> cypha: that still shows skype as running (line #1)
[00:47] <AssociateX> utueh: I wonder what's missing
[00:47] <cypha> how do u know?
[00:48] <cypha> or what tells u that, rather
[00:48] <utueh> AssociateX: you log out/in, or nuke x all together?
[00:48] <AssociateX> killall -9 Xorg
[00:48] <lstarnes> cypha: ps aux lists all running processes
[00:48] <cypha> oh ok
[00:48] <cypha> what about the second line?
[00:48] <guest2> Woohoo, I think I managed to troubleshoot my disk issues and install 9.04.  Now to reboot and test (hope the boot loader works *fingers crossed*)
[00:48] <utueh> AssociateX: weird..., no title bar either?
[00:49] <AssociateX> utueh: no I have that.
[00:49] <utueh> AssociateX: and you can move the windows by the title bar?
[00:49] <AssociateX> utueh: I tried opening a xterm and it's just a white box with no prompt.
[00:49] <AssociateX> I think I'm in trouble
[00:49] <lstarnes> cypha: that's the "grep skype" part of "ps aux | grep skype".  the | pipes the output of ps aux through grep skype.  grep is used to search for a pattern and display matching lines
[00:49] <AssociateX> lol
[00:49] <utueh> AssociateX: yup :)
[00:50] <AssociateX> utueh: oh pardon, no, I have no title bar
[00:50] <guest2> !quit
[00:50] <cypha> lstarnes: k
[00:50] <cypha> lstarnes: so how do i end it?
[00:50] <redorange> how can visual effects be enabled
[00:50] <lstarnes> cypha: this command: kill skype
[00:50] <lstarnes> cypha: if that fails, you might need kill -9 skype
[00:50] <utueh> AssociateX: what were you doing just before this happened, unloading metacity?
[00:51] <cypha> what's -9?
[00:51] <cypha> lstarnes:
[00:51] <AssociateX> utueh: this is a new install
[00:51] <AssociateX> what is the window manager called? gnome? metacity?
[00:51] <lstarnes> cypha: -9 is signal 9, or SIGKILL, which forces a program to kill.  Without that switch it sends signal 15. which is SIGTERM, which asks a program to quit
[00:51] <AssociateX> I want to try to start it manually
[00:52] <utueh> AssociateX: what's 'ps -e | grep meta' say?
[00:52] <redorange> VISUALLL EFFECTSSS !!!!!!!!!
[00:52] <cypha> arguments must be process or job IDs
[00:52] <VCoolio> cypha kill needs the pid, so you should do "kill 6315" or "killall skype" or "pkill skype"
[00:52] <utueh> # ps -e | grep meta
[00:52] <utueh>  3490 ?        00:00:09 metacity
[00:52] <cypha>  lstarnes
[00:52] <utueh> AssociateX: metacity
[00:52] <cypha> kk
[00:52] <cypha> cool
[00:52] <lstarnes> cypha: oops
[00:52] <Equinox93> Can anyone tell me where to place the RSA keys for "dk-filter" package under ubuntu ?  It's the sendmail domainkeys implementation.  I'm just not familiar with where the package wants them.
[00:52] <lstarnes> cypha: try pkill instead of kill
[00:53] <cypha> k
[00:53] <cypha> i did that
[00:53] <cypha> then i typed ps aux | grep skype again
[00:53] <cypha> and it still shows the same thing
[00:53] <VCoolio> cypha now do "kill -9 6315"
[00:53] <lstarnes> cypha: try pkill -9 skype
[00:53] <cypha> great
[00:53] <cypha> worked
[00:53] <AssociateX> utueh: ps -e|grep meta shows nothing
[00:54] <AssociateX> just like I thought, I'm missing my window manager
[00:54] <oenone> why is it that when I try to change somethin iubuntu saysd permisison denied
[00:54] <oenone> how do I get permission
[00:54] <lstarnes> oenone: what were you trying to change?
[00:54] <oenone> client.conf of pulseaudio
[00:54] <utueh> AssociateX: well, you got no window manager, can you start that (type: metacity), or do you have no terminal to type that in?
[00:54] <lstarnes> oenone: what are you editing it with?
[00:54] <AssociateX> utueh: I tried starting metacity from a VT but it wouldn't let me.
[00:55] <oenone> txt editor
[00:55] <cypha> thanks guys
[00:55] <cypha> i really appreciate it
[00:55] <lstarnes> oenone: try doing alt+f2 then entering gksudo gedit /etc/pulse/client.conf
[00:55] <cypha> got another question, am i supposed to add the -bg switch to ggl-gadgets so that it doesn't show up on start?
[00:55] <AssociateX> utueh: the terminal app xterm is just a white rectangle with no prompt.... again, I'm in trouble here.
[00:55] <lstarnes> cypha: see if that works
[00:55] <AssociateX> lol
[00:56] <oenone> it worked
[00:56] <oenone> thanks
[00:56] <cypha> lstarnes: the current command is /usr/bin/ggl-gtk %F
[00:56] <AssociateX> I don't get this
[00:56] <cypha> so where do i add the switch?
[00:56] <cypha> and what's %F?
[00:56] <utueh> AssociateX: weird, i'v got no more ideas..., good luck, full re-boot no work?
[00:56] <lstarnes> cypha: then use /usr/bin/ggl-gtk -bg %F
[00:57] <AssociateX> utueh: I'm going to see what is installed, then I'm going to install another terminal app to see if that works
[00:57] <AssociateX> bbs
[00:57] <redorange> what is the latest jaunty jackalope intel graphics driver
[00:57] <SubCool> Hey guys- whats the program so i can use on kubuntu to play XP games
[00:58] <SubCool> i wanna play medal of honor
[00:58] <sebsebseb> SubCool: games hum
[00:58] <SubCool> cine-something
[00:58] <sebsebseb> SubCool: are these games 3D?
[00:58] <SubCool> i used it on mandrake
[00:58] <sebsebseb> SubCool: Wine?
[00:58] <SubCool> requires OpenGl
[00:58] <SubCool> WINE! thats a good one..
[00:59] <sebsebseb> SubCool: well quite a lot of programs just work, others need configuring, but overall Wine is pretty impressive,  considering all the reverse enginering that had to be done and everything
[00:59] <cypha> lstarnes: didnt' work
[00:59] <LosFrijoles> does anyone know how to speed up sshfs? it takes me like 15 seconds to list a directory and like 1.5 mins to save
[00:59] <cypha> but the -h says that use -bg to run in the background
[00:59] <the_archit3ct> need help to run murmur on an unix shell : http://tinypaste.com/92768
[00:59] <the_archit3ct> pme me
[00:59] <mae^> is there any way I can get fstab to persist using the LiveCD?
[00:59] <SubCool> ok- well im going on ur guys expereince- cause i dont have a lot of time to research it
[00:59] <SubCool> wanna just jump into a game quick tonight
[01:00] <utueh> mae^: what?
[01:00] <lstarnes> the_archit3ct: try its .sh or .pl version
[01:00] <sebsebseb> SubCool: GUIwise (Grapical User Interface)  when it comes to configuring and such,  Wine is not that user friendly, but there are commerical paid for  versions that are
[01:00] <mae^> well, its livecd on a usb stick using casper
[01:00] <the_archit3ct> can't pl on a shel
[01:00] <the_archit3ct> haven't tried sh
[01:00] <the_archit3ct> i'll do it
[01:00] <LosFrijoles> the_archit3ct: use perl script.pl
[01:01] <sebsebseb> SubCool: try your games in Wine, if your lucky they just work, if not you may need to configure here and there,  and if unlucky  you won't be able to play those games in Wine.  #winehq is the channel to talk about Wine
[01:01] <mae^> I'm not exactly sure how casper is joining the cdrom and the casper-rw dir structures
[01:01] <LosFrijoles> the_archit3ct: or use the #! /usr/bin/perl -w at the beginning of the file
[01:01] <cypha> lstarnes: ps aux | grep ggl-gtk just has 1 line, u said that line is normal, right?
[01:01] <utueh> mae^: oh, maybe mount the usb and edit it?
[01:01] <SubCool> sebsebseb: you rock- thanks.
[01:01] <utueh> mae^: from another running linux
[01:01] <mae^> ah, thats a good idea
[01:01] <sebsebseb> SubCool: np
[01:01] <lstarnes> cypha: you only use ps aux | grep <name> for checking if a process is running
[01:01] <sebsebseb> SubCool: and for 2D games well  a Windows virtual machine in  Virtualbox might do it, depending on game
[01:01] <brunner> since I started my dist-upgrade, my brightness keeps dropping on my laptop even though I'm plugged into AC.  Is there any way to force it to use maximum brightness?
[01:02] <cypha> lstarnes: i was seeing if ggl-gtk is still running, because it doesn't work
[01:02] <mae^> still confusing why that file doesnt persist but other changes in etc do
[01:02] <cypha> i tried running it in the background
[01:02] <sebsebseb> SubCool: Directx games I mean
[01:02] <sebsebseb> SubCool: ,but 2D ones
[01:02] <SubCool> ya- nah
[01:02] <SubCool> i guess i cant get wine via Adept?
[01:02] <lstarnes> cypha: try starting it in the terminal with ggl-gtk -bg &
[01:02] <utueh> mae^: you would likely have to mount the usb, then mount the image file or something...
[01:02] <sebsebseb> SubCool: or command line
[01:03] <utueh> mae^: cramfs or something, ain't done that yet, tell me if it works :)
[01:03] <mae^> utueh: yeah, I know the process.. I went through it to set it up the first time
[01:03] <Cry__Baby> I installed a .deb file.. how do I now remove it?
[01:03] <cypha> lstarnes: THAT WORKED
[01:03] <cypha> what's the * do?
[01:03] <cypha> i mean the &
[01:03] <DFade> brunner: there's a standard application for screen brightness, see if you can find it
[01:03] <utueh> mae^: cool
[01:03] <mae^> utueh: ah, well this is my first time
[01:03] <redorange> bot
[01:03] <mae^> is there any good docs on casper/initramfs?
[01:03] <redorange> ubonot
[01:03] <lstarnes> cypha: it's only used in the shell to run it so that it doesn't take over the shall until it quits
[01:03] <redorange> ububot
[01:03] <sebsebseb> Cry__Baby: find it in Synaptic and right click and remove like that.   you can do the config files to.  or  use command.   sudo apt-get purge  programname
[01:04] <cypha> not sure what u mean
[01:04] <cypha> how did u know to try that?
[01:04] <redorange> ubottu
[01:04] <Cry__Baby> sebastien: it doesnt show up in Synapetic when I searched for it,. why?
[01:04] <sebsebseb> Cry__Baby: purge removes config files as well, remove, removes only program
[01:04] <lstarnes> cypha: run it without the &
[01:04] <Jeruvy> !bot
[01:04] <cypha> doesn't work without the &
[01:04] <redorange> how can i install latest intel graphics drivers
[01:04] <sebsebseb> Cry__Baby: what did you install?
[01:04] <buch> Anyone who can help me with my sound card (Yamaha DS-1 YMF724) i can give you some dmesg info
[01:04] <brunner> DFade: found it, thanks.
[01:04] <buch> ?
[01:04] <cypha> without the &, it starts and exits
[01:04] <sebsebseb> !intel |  redorange
[01:04] <lstarnes> cypha: the & should only matter in the shell
[01:04] <Cry__Baby> sebastien: when I typed the comment, it says E: Couldn't find package zoiper
[01:05] <cypha> lstarnes: without the &, it starts and exits
[01:05] <Cry__Baby> sebastien: Zoiper
[01:05] <DFade> brunner: if that doesn't work, ask again, someone'll help you
[01:05] <sebsebseb> !info zoiper
[01:05] <sebsebseb> Cry__Baby: yeah that's not even in the Ubuntu repo by the looks of it
[01:05] <brunner> DFade: thanks. I'll install it after the dist-upgrade is complete.
[01:05] <k1rb_E> i need help getting my video on to an external display.. like a projector along w/ my monitor
[01:05] <lindzeyn>  Got a question.  I have an X session running on display 6; but when I toggle to display 0 and back to display 6, I lose the X GUI.  What am I doing wrong?
[01:05] <luke> hi as i am new to linux i just wanted to find out about emulators to run games on. like oblivion and sniper elite that use *.exe. can anyone point me in the right direction, and are these trust-worthy?
[01:05] <Cry__Baby> sebastien: i know, hence, I installed their .deb
[01:05] <dublued> redorange:  go to Software Sources, in the Updates tab, select Pre-released updates, then do a update using update manager.  this will install 2.6.28-13 kernel patch
[01:05] <Cry__Baby> sebastien: its a softphone
[01:05] <Jeruvy> !find zoiper
[01:05] <edbian> lindzeyn: Usually the GUI is actually on tty7 :)
[01:06] <meoblast001> does anyone know if Istanbul has been fixed to do 3D and sound together?
[01:06] <cypha> so i don't need the & in the command line when i setup the startup applications for ubuntu?
[01:06] <sebsebseb> Cry__Baby: got to remove it in another way then  I think, but not sure exactly how right now
[01:06] <Cry__Baby> sebastien: how can I remove it.. doesnt connect to my Voip provider.. think firewall blocks it :(
[01:06] <lstarnes> cypha: you most likely don't
[01:06] <cypha> lstarnes: any idea about the %F?
[01:06] <DFade> brunner: there should be one you can add straight to your panels, plain and simple; but I'm off, night!
[01:06] <sebsebseb> !wine |  luke
[01:06] <lstarnes> cypha: the %F is the filename being passed to it by the gui
[01:06] <sebsebseb> SubCool: your still here so, see above
[01:06] <luke> thankyou
[01:07] <lindzeyn> edbian: That is what I meant
[01:07] <sebsebseb> luke: np, however for games hum
[01:07] <sebsebseb> luke: some programs just work, and others need configuring, and some won't work at all
[01:07] <max_> Hi, I cant seem to set the timestamps to 12hr as opposed to 24hr format in Pidgin. Can someone tell me how?
[01:07] <RyanPrior> Hey there. I'm on Ubuntu 8.04 "hardy heron" and I currently have Flash Player 9
[01:07] <edbian> lindzeyn: When you go to tty1 and back to tty7 the gui isn't there??
[01:07] <texasjack> !virtualizers
[01:07] <RyanPrior> How do I install flash 10?
[01:07] <lindzeyn> I toggle  ctrl+alt+f7, and I lose the X GUI cntrl+alt+f6
[01:07] <sebsebseb> !flash |  RyanPrior
[01:07] <lindzeyn> yes
[01:08] <sebsebseb> RyanPrior: Flash 10  is not a security update for hardy?  Ubuntu only does security updates by default
[01:08] <Cry__Baby> Zoiper sucks.. cant even remove it :(
[01:08] <edbian> lindzeyn: It isn't on any of the tty's ??
[01:08] <mandrig> Hello all
[01:08] <lindzeyn> edbian: right
[01:08] <cypha> lstarnes: thakns for all your help!
[01:08] <redorange> dublued: installing all pre released updates would make system unstable?
[01:08] <RyanPrior> sebsebseb: It would have to be a backport, I think.
[01:08] <cypha> gerat guy
[01:08] <cypha> great
[01:08] <sebsebseb> RyanPrior: you can install Flash 10 directly from Adobe, that's one way to do it
[01:08] <lindzeyn> it just gives me verbose stdout crap about the X session that is supposedly running
[01:08] <RyanPrior> sebsebseb: Sure, but better if it's from the repo.
[01:09] <sebsebseb> RyanPrior: well if it's in the repo, it will be in the repo
[01:09] <edbian> lindzeyn: That is very very strange.  I have no idea.  Are you sure you tried all of them?  Techincally you can have infitintely many ttys but usually you run out of key-bindings to access them
[01:09] <sebsebseb> RyanPrior: Ubuntu only put security updates in the repo
[01:09] <dublued> redorange:  it didn't on mine.  I have intel graphics chipset and was unable to get visual effects to work.  Someone on here recommended i follow the steps that I described to you.  The system has been working very well since the update.
[01:09] <sebsebseb> RyanPrior: there might be even a Flash 10 ppa for 8.04,  that's another way in that case, in how you could install it
[01:09] <redorange> dublued: thanks for solution
[01:09] <sebsebseb> RyanPrior: normally people install stuff from the repo,  but if they want later stuff they would normally  use a ppa first, before anything else
[01:10] <sebsebseb> !ppa > RyanPrior
[01:10] <lindzeyn> edbian:  I know the process is still running, its just that the GUI disappears.  It's like X is too stupid or something, or I am too stupid.
[01:10] <redorange> ubottu: how are you
[01:11] <guest> Now I've done it: installing 9.04, grub apparently went to hd0 but i don't see any sign of it on rebooting, only windows throwing me into the blue screen of death.
[01:11] <edbian> lindzeyn: Well I know for a fact that you should be able to switch ttys and go back to X.  I just did it to test!  I'm sorry I can't offer more help though :(
[01:11] <Cry__Baby> every softphone I have tried wont connect to my VOIP provider... What could be wrong?  Is Ubuntu Firewall stopping it?
[01:11] <Cry__Baby> sebastien: any ideas?
[01:11] <Gourlis> guest, you did a complete format as I see.
[01:11] <Jeruvy> Cry__Baby: possibly, did you check?
[01:11] <lindzeyn> edbian: Thanks for your help
[01:12] <Cry__Baby> Jeruvy: how I check?
[01:12] <edbian> lindzeyn: (Or lack thereof)
[01:12] <k1rb_E> i need help getting my video on to an external display.. like a projector along w/ my monitor
[01:12] <Jeruvy> !ufw | Cry__Baby
[01:12] <guest> Gourlis: I formatted a spare drive and left my primary one alone except for grub, or so I believe.
[01:12] <Cry__Baby> Ekiga doesnt connect either.. Butg I can connect through Vista
[01:12] <Cry__Baby> Jeruvy: how does that info help me?
[01:13] <Jeruvy> Cry__Baby: well if you don't know how to review firewall rules...it's a great starting point
[01:13] <lindzeyn> edbian: it was me that was stupid
[01:13] <dublued> k1rb_E:  Go to Screen Resolution settings via Preferences.  If your external projector is connected, it should come up.  you can select to turn it on there
[01:13] <edbian> lindzeyn: You fixedi t?
[01:13] <lindzeyn> I didnt know that f[8-10] were bound to any tty2
[01:14] <Gourlis> any official channel about 9.10 ?
[01:14] <lindzeyn> *ttyx
[01:14] <Gourlis> especially for 9.10
[01:14] <Cry__Baby> Jeruvy: I looked using Firewall Configuration, but see nothing about anything
[01:14] <lindzeyn> all my x sessions are sitting there
[01:14] <Cry__Baby> i used ufw
[01:14] <guest> It seems to think it can boot into windows, but when it tries to do so it says I've tampered with things that ought not to be tampered with.
[01:14] <lstarnes> Gourlis: #ubuntu+1 is for the current development release, which is 9.10 until its final release in october
[01:14] <dublued> k1rb_E:  *go to Display via Preferences
[01:14] <Cry__Baby> Ekiga doesnt connect either
[01:15] <dublued> Gourlis:  you can get 9.10 help here
[01:15] <Jeruvy> Cry__Baby: then you answered you're own question.   Sorry I don't use SIP phones
[01:15] <Gourlis> lstarnes, thank you mate.
[01:15] <lstarnes> dublued: not until its release.  9.10 is still in development
[01:15] <Gourlis> dublued, Just hopping 9.10 works with my ATI.
[01:15] <lstarnes> Gourlis: I would strongly recommend not using 9.10
[01:15] <k1rb_E> dublued: then i guess it doesnt see it as connected. ill keep on it.. thanks now i know where to go.
[01:15] <dublued> Istarnes:  thanks, got my versions confused
[01:15] <Cry__Baby> Ekiga doesnt even pick up my USB headset
[01:15] <lstarnes> Gourlis: it's not a stable release yet
[01:16] <Gourlis> lstarnes, not from now, later.
[01:16] <dublued> k1rb_E:  you can click on "Detect Monitors" and see if it comes up then
[01:16] <guest> Any advice on getting grub to work after an unsuccessful install?
[01:16] <k1rb_E> dublued: i am using svideo out on my ati video card to the projector .. same video card
[01:16] <k1rb_E> does tha tmake a diff?
[01:16] <Cry__Baby> how can I get Ubuntu to detect and use my USB Headset?
[01:16] <utueh> Cry__Baby: likely alsa or oss that's the problem
[01:16] <Gourlis> lstarnes, 9.04 didn't work good for me. My ATI stopped support for Ubuntu so in 9.04 my screen was flickering.
[01:16] <Cry__Baby> utueh: solution?
[01:17] <dublued> K1rb_E:  what's yoru ati video card model?
[01:17] <utueh> Cry__Baby: sec...
[01:17] <Cry__Baby> utueh: ok
[01:18] <utueh> Cry__Baby: what does dmesg say when you plug that in? (type: dmesg from a terminal)
[01:18] <k1rb_E> dublued ati radeon saphire
[01:18] <timepilot> Istarnes: I'm running Karmic as we speak, so far no major issues
[01:18] <Cry__Baby> utueh: ok brb
[01:18] <Cry__Baby> utueh: for the record, I used to hear sound, but it stopped working
[01:19] <Cry__Baby> utueh: typing dmesg gave 2 pages of text
[01:20] <SubCool> thanks sorry- i am getting out of here
[01:20] <SubCool> thanks for hte info
[01:20] <dublued> k1rb_E:  try this:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=803724
[01:20] <SubCool> ill be back later- i lost the history, ill just ask again later
[01:21] <atanok> Hello there
[01:22] <halberd> does anybody use the program "lefty"?
[01:22] <atanok> we have kind of a problem here
[01:22] <patapouf> timepilot: Have a question for you, what is your graphics card ?
[01:22] <atanok> with 9.04 and a sound board
[01:22] <owen1> i don't see my cdrom. where can i see it using terminal? /media/cdrom?
[01:23] <timepilot> its on a old notebook (ati xpress 200m)
[01:23] <hax> I've got several systems I need to upgrade at once, all with very similar packages/hardware
[01:23] <hax> if I copy everything in /var/cache/apt/archives over, I should in theory be able to use those files instead of redownloading, correct?
[01:23] <VCoolio> owen1: the cdrom is in /dev; if it is mounted the mountpoint will be in /media to be browsed
[01:24] <siwon> hello all i just installed v904 and its a great OS but I have a question about the repository, when i type sudo apt-get update I get please use apt cd rom recognized by app and I tried adding the repository for xbmc and a couple of others and they all fail?
[01:24] <AssociateX> finally back
[01:24] <hax> how can I force the system to rescan whats in /var/cache/apt? right now it tries to download again anyway
[01:24] <beinghuman> I screwed up my damn xserver again
[01:24] <beinghuman> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg doesn'tw ork
[01:24] <owen1> VCoolio: in media i have cdrom but it's empty.
[01:24] <beinghuman> I think I screwed it up trying to get nvidia acceleration on riva tnt2
[01:24] <Flannel> hax: You might look into apt-cacher
[01:24] <beinghuman> with nvidia-glx-180
[01:24] <k1rb_E> dublued: do you know what fglrx is?
[01:24] <beinghuman> anyone know how I can get it working again?
[01:24] <Flannel> hax: Especially if one of those machines is always (or mostly) on.
[01:25] <atanok> xubuntu 9.04 + Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03)
[01:25] <atanok> I'm trying to solve a prolem
[01:25] <atanok> *problem
[01:25] <k1rb_E> dublued: nm found it
[01:25] <atanok> but it looks like a patch intended for Arch was applied
[01:26] <VCoolio> owen1: any others? cdrom0 ? nautilus doesn't show it?
[01:26] <atanok> ando now modprobe snd_hda_intel wont't work
[01:26] <siwon> hello all i just installed v904 and its a great OS but I have a question about the repository, when i type sudo apt-get update I get please use apt cd rom recognized by app and I tried adding the repository for xbmc and a couple of others and they all fail?
[01:26] <atanok> it keeps referring to the wrong files
[01:26] <atanok> is there any *easy* way to fix this?
[01:26] <owen1> VCoolio: i use the terminal, and the only folder i see is cdrom
[01:26] <uskrewed> My top panel got all discombobulated and now the day/time/user portion of the bar is in the center, how do I move it back? I've tried dragging it but that didn't work. This is what it looks like right now :/ http://i41.tinypic.com/nlx7ar.png
[01:27] <owen1> VCoolio: ok, it's hidden.
[01:27] <owen1> VCoolio: ls -a showed cdrom0. but it's empty.
[01:28] <chuckc_> trying to setup passwordless ssh auth from mac to ubuntu box, have sshd_conf set,  have my public key on ubuntu box, but still get prompted for password
[01:28] <Cry__Baby> I can use Ekiga to make calls using my SIP provider.. But x-lite and Zoiper doesnt connect.. why?  firewall issues?
[01:29] <mib_h8yphp1n> Hello everyone i'm having a problem with installing to my ps3
[01:29] <hax> this is really a one time thing, just have a bunch of systems that were all last upgraded a year ago, that all need to be updated again
[01:29] <hax> isn't there a way to force it check /var/cache before downloading?
[01:29] <hax> setting up an apt-cache server doesn't make sense for me, and none of them are "usually on"
[01:30] <owen1> VCoolio: dmseg shows me interesting error - one sec.
[01:30] <mib_h8yphp1n> can anyone help me with installing to a ps3? i'm having a problem getting it past kboot
[01:31] <mib_h8yphp1n> no then?
[01:31] <Flannel> mib_h8yphp1n: Try #ubuntu-ps3
[01:32] <mib_h8yphp1n> thank you
[01:32] <obi_> im having a a problem with the current version of firefox, i cant play streaming video. ive tryed installing different plugins etc to no avail. any advise?
[01:33] <bo7amny> how can i check in the terminal if a file exists or note ?
[01:33] <AssociateX> Hello again
[01:33] <ircnickiuse> bo7amny, ls filename
[01:33] <linxeh> bo7amny: you could use ls filename
[01:34] <AssociateX> what is the name of the gui package manager?
[01:34] <AssociateX> synaptic
[01:34] <AssociateX> ?
[01:34] <halberd> yes
[01:34] <ircnickiuse> in a script, I think it is if [-e filename] or something weird like that, is there a truthy for exists? or is that equals? I don't know
[01:34] <halberd> apt-get install synaptic
[01:34] <ircnickiuse> *bash, and YMMV
[01:34] <AssociateX> I have it installed.
[01:35] <AssociateX> thank you
[01:35] <jrib> bo7amny: check advanced bash scripting guide at tldp.org or ask #bash
[01:35] <sacdman> hello
[01:36] <tlisanti> anyone use moneydance?
[01:36] <guest> It's looking like grub killed my ability to boot - is there any way to fix it?
[01:37] <Etrigan> i finally hooked up my old server (7.04) and now it can't update.  what do i need to do to get it up to date?
[01:37] <sacdman> hi... i just switched from mint 7 to ubuntu 9.04
[01:38] <sacdman> I have a compaq EVO D510 CMT
[01:38] <unitheory> is there any way in xubuntu to display password dialogs as normal windows?
[01:38] <wallshot> seems jaunty's default bluetooth support will pair with my phone but not handle file transfers back and forth.  Where can i look at what's extra tools I may need to do this?
[01:38] <sacdman> my monitor is a compaq 7500
[01:38] <brunner> Oh great: "The upgrade will continue but the 'linux-image-2.6.28-11-generic' package may be in a not working state. Please consider submitting a bug report about it."
[01:38] <brunner> that ain't good
[01:38] <Forger7> hi :)
[01:38] <sacdman> I would appreciate some help in configuring my video so i can set the refresh rate to 60Hz
[01:38] <unitheory> Etrigan, you need an "alternate" install disc
[01:39] <sacdman> the lowest I can set it at presently is 75Hz
[01:39] <Etrigan> unitheory: what version?
[01:39] <Forger7> can someone help me with xchat? at start im marking "no network list at startup" but it shows up everytime :(
[01:39] <sacdman> the refresh rate for my display
[01:39] <unitheory> Etrigan, 9.04 is the latest release. it's fairly stable in my experience.
[01:40] <k1rb_E> dublued: so i am trying to install the fglrx driver so says most documentation...   and well i dont have the fglrx.ko file in the /lib/modules/2.8.28.11.generic/volatile directory..    know anything about htis?
[01:40] <fryguy> k1rb_E: did you install one?
[01:40] <k1rb_E> fryguy: i guess not. how do  i install one?  im sorry.
[01:41] <guest> So how does one fix a master boot record when installing grub leaves it unbootable?
[01:41] <unitheory> sacdman, may i assume you tried system > preferences > display ?
[01:41] <sacdman> oh yes
[01:41] <fryguy> k1rb_E: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:41] <fryguy> !grub | guest
[01:41] <Jeruvy> !grub | guest
[01:41] <k1rb_E> fryguy:  yea thats what im trying to do
[01:41]  * Jeruvy wants a beer from fryguy
[01:42] <sacdman> the lowest I can set it at presently is 75Hz
[01:42] <uskrewed> My top panel got all discombobulated and now the day/time/user portion of the bar is in the center, how do I move it back? I've tried dragging it but that didn't work. This is what it looks like right now :/ http://i41.tinypic.com/nlx7ar.png
[01:42] <unitheory> does anyone know how to edit gconf from command line?
[01:42] <k1rb_E> fryguy: i ran sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh linux-restricted-modules-2.6.28-11-generic
[01:42] <k1rb_E> update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-2.6.28-11-generic
[01:42] <fryguy> !reset-panel | uskrewed
[01:42] <fryguy> !panel
[01:42] <fryguy> !panels
[01:42] <thiebaude> !panel
[01:42] <psycoborg> im having a problem with ubuntu lockingup, without any errors. the mose moves but everything else is locked.
[01:42] <k1rb_E> fryguy: then went to do a insmod and the fglrx.ko doesnt exist
[01:42] <psycoborg> im using ubunti 9.04
[01:43] <Etrigan> unitheory: this will update me to 9.04?
[01:43] <uskrewed> ty fryguy
[01:43] <psycoborg> this just started happening.
[01:43] <fryguy> k1rb_E: neither of those commands will install a binary driver
[01:43] <fryguy> psycoborg: open up a terminal and run top/ps and see what is running
[01:43] <k1rb_E> fryguy: sudo insmod /lib/modules/2.6.28-11-generic/volatile/fglrx.ko
[01:43] <k1rb_E> insmod: can't read '/lib/modules/2.6.28-11-generic/volatile/fglrx.ko': No such file or directory
[01:43] <unitheory> Etrigan, yes, you can use an ubuntu-9.04-alternate disc to upgrade any ubuntu installation to 9.04, the latest release
[01:43] <Jeruvy> !pastebin | k1rb_E
[01:43] <lstarnes> k1rb_E: what about sudo modprobe fglrx?
[01:43] <guest> ubottu: actually I installed 9.04 on hd2 (I think), and left my windows (hd0) alone, but now nothing will boot
[01:44] <Etrigan> unitheory: thanks, you're awesome
[01:44] <theman1> Hey, does anyone know how i can decrypt a string, that is encoded with rc4 (or ssl? base 64) that is salted with a pass? Thanks
[01:44] <unitheory> Etrigan, you're welcome ;]
[01:44] <Praveen> hi
[01:44] <halberd> theman1: you mean if you don't know the pass?
[01:44] <sebsebseb> Praveen: hi
[01:44] <Praveen> i have a question about running scripts on shutdown
[01:44] <wallshot> SSL is NOT base64
[01:44] <Praveen> in ubuntu
[01:44] <theman1> halberd, i do know the pass
[01:44] <Jeruvy> theman1: that is a bit OT for here, but I won't object :)
[01:45] <mathur> o.o
[01:45] <wallshot> base64 is not key-based encryption and can easily be decoded by anybody without the need for keys or passphrases
[01:45] <Praveen> i currently have a script that moves my firefox and pidgin profies to my windows partition
[01:45] <Praveen> but i need it to run on shutdown
[01:45] <theman1> halberd, i suppose if i didnt it would be nearly impossible, well i could bruteforce somehow but thats not the case
[01:45] <Praveen> or reboot
[01:45] <Praveen> how do i do this?
[01:45] <theman1> wallshot how? the string/hash is salted...
[01:45] <theman1> wallshot what commanline script or other program can i use?
[01:46] <k1rb_E> lstarnes: FATAL: Error inserting fglrx (/lib/modules/2.6.28-11-generic/updates/dkms/fglrx.ko): Cannot allocate memory
[01:46] <wallshot> base64 has no salt afaik
[01:46] <sacdman> anyone here know anything about optimizing ubuntu for compaq 7500 monitor?
[01:46] <halberd> base64 isn't encryption
[01:46] <lstarnes> base64 is just encoding
[01:46] <wallshot> it's a handy way to convert non-ascii characters to ascii characters (for example putting UNICODE characters into email headers, which only support ASCII)
[01:46] <sacdman> My PC is a Compaq EVO D510CMT
[01:46] <halberd> rc4 on the other hand is encryption
[01:46] <wallshot> there is absolutely no security in base64 encoding
[01:47] <SuperSenior> Why do many open source applications have a "/chrome" subdirectory where they are installed?
[01:47] <theman1> ok, then how can i decode/Decrypt a rc4 string
[01:47] <psycoborg> the following are running xorg plasma ksysguardd kwin xchat gnome terminal  and a few more things.  is there something specific i need to look for?
[01:47] <fryguy> SuperSenior: if by many, you mean like, 2?
[01:47] <n2diy> I just did an install of 8.10, and then updated/upgraded to 9.04, and I don't have a shutdown option in my system menu!?
[01:47] <psycoborg> kde04 is also running
[01:47] <k1rb_E> jeruvy: sorry
[01:47] <fryguy> SuperSenior: it's a mozilla org thing, part of their graphics display code
[01:48] <SuperSenior> No, Nvu also has it
[01:48] <SuperSenior> so do many other open source applications
[01:48] <ircnickiuse> wallshot, I don't think you can salt any space encoding scheme, it just doesn't have parallel
[01:48] <halberd> also, a salt and a password aren't the same thing
[01:48] <psycoborg> mysql and apache is also running. :P
[01:48] <sacdman> I think I need to edit my xorg.conf to set the refresh rate for my system, but I don't know how
[01:48] <RukusX> cabrey, sound in flash videos stopped working in both firefox and epiphany-browser.  no errors in terminal.
[01:49] <fryguy> sacdman: luckily there is a manpage for xorg.conf, just read that
[01:49] <OOT> Hello all, anyone please help..., where I can find the the file (or a config file) that stores the channels information of ircd-hybrid? Is such file human readable?
[01:49] <ircnickiuse> you can salt a crypt, and some encodings, but not something that is just a space encoding
[01:49] <sacdman> fryguy: where is the manpage?
[01:49] <ircnickiuse> not space.. what is the word?
[01:49] <lstarnes> OOT: channel info is kept entirely in ram for almost all ircds
[01:49] <fryguy> sacdman: xorg.conf
[01:49] <lstarnes> OOT: services packages often store it in a database of some sort
[01:49] <psycoborg> i was using gnome without problems till last week and was forced to switch to kde, not that too is starting to lock up.
[01:49] <sacdman> what is manpage?
[01:49] <cabrey> RukusX, flash has been the biggest pain in the ***
[01:49] <SuperSenior> "lock up"?
[01:50] <SuperSenior> Does it just freeze?
[01:50] <fryguy> sacdman: man man, and then man xorg.conf in a terminal
[01:50] <psycoborg> you talking to me supersenior?
[01:50] <tyfovo> i need some help...
[01:50] <OOT> lstarnes: I am currently experimenting ircd-hybrid as local irc service... so how?
[01:50] <SuperSenior> Ask away tyfovo lol
[01:50] <RukusX> cabrey,  oh ok good ur here
[01:50] <lstarnes> OOT: ircd-shybrid is not a services package
[01:50] <RukusX> cabrey if i restart the browser it works again
[01:50] <lstarnes> *ircd-hybrid
[01:51] <theman1> wallshot, any idea?
[01:51] <lstarnes> OOT: it's just an ircd
[01:51] <sacdman> fryguy: I have no idea how to edit this... never done this b4
[01:51] <k1rb_E> lstarnes: ever seen this before?
[01:51] <lstarnes> k1rb_E: seen what?
[01:51] <fryguy> sacdman: that is what the manpage is there for, it tells you everything you need to know about the file to edit it
[01:51] <psycoborg> supersenior, when it locks up i cant click on anything . but the mouse will still move around.
[01:51] <sacdman> do I need to type man xorg.conf to see the file?
[01:51] <ircnickiuse> #ubuntu: question: Why doesn't 9.04 desktop kernel have PAE?
[01:51] <psycoborg> it randomly does this.
[01:52] <OOT> lstarnes: yes, an ircd and can be accessed in my XCHAT using server address localhost/6667...?
[01:52] <fryguy> sacdman: it shows you the manual for the file
[01:52] <ircnickiuse> ^^ that question
[01:52] <tyfovo> i have installed the latest version of ubuntu on my pc. when i boot up is says something like "acpi invalid tdc value"
[01:52] <sacdman> thanx... will look it over
[01:52] <psycoborg> no error messaged are displayed.
[01:52] <k1rb_E> lstarnes: FATAL: Error inserting fglrx (/lib/modules/2.6.28-11-generic/updates/dkms/fglrx.ko): Cannot allocate memory
[01:52] <lstarnes> OOT: by services, I mean NickServ/ChanServ
[01:52] <tyfovo> it flashes by so quickly...
[01:52] <SuperSenior> No common factor when it locks up tyfovo?
[01:52] <SeaPhor> fryguy, sometimes i find appname --help more useful ;-)
[01:52] <cabrey> RukusX, does thia (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash#Troubleshooting) match your symptoms?
[01:52] <fryguy> psycoborg: have you tried running in an environment that doesn't have 3d acceleration
[01:52] <k1rb_E> lstarnes when doing a modprobe
[01:52] <tyfovo> everything works fine...
[01:52] <fryguy> SeaPhor: unfortnately that is not true for X11
[01:52] <psycoborg> not sure.
[01:52] <lstarnes> k1rb_E: it could be a bug in that module
[01:52] <psycoborg> i was wondering of their might be a disk error or something.
[01:53] <tyfovo> just want to figure out why is says that....
[01:53] <psycoborg> because this os was running great till the update before last.
[01:53] <k1rb_E> lstarnes: it actually is.. found it in the bug launchpad :-/   thanks for your time
[01:53] <fryguy> tyfovo: likely because your motherboard doesn't comply with acpi spec
[01:53] <OOT> lstarnes: if so, it is impossible for me to grab channel information as it as a file?
[01:53] <k1rb_E> fryguy: thanks as well
[01:53] <SuperSenior> tyfovo, is it tdc or tds?
[01:53] <lstarnes> OOT: exactly
[01:53] <lstarnes> OOT: it's only stored in RAM
[01:53] <tyfovo> tdc
[01:54] <sacdman> thanks again fryguy... will research this
[01:54] <OOT> lstarnes: well, thx very much for your help...
[01:54] <psycoborg> i did install aloth of things.
[01:54] <tyfovo> nosorry... tds
[01:54] <dadao> oi
[01:54] <n2diy> I just did an install of 8.10, and then updated/upgraded to 9.04, and I don't have a shutdown option in my system menu!?
[01:54] <AssociateX> no worky
[01:55] <psycoborg> if i uninstall all the crap from the package manager, im not sure if this will solve this lockup issue
[01:55] <AssociateX> blackbox works fine here but not gnome/metacity
[01:55] <wallshot> do the default-installed bluez tools not handle file transfers, etc?  If we want to actually transfer files back and forth between jaunty and bluetooth phone, instead of pairing, connecting, and sitting there useless, do we need to install some of the obextools?
[01:55] <tyfovo> i tried to install ubuntu with virtualbox so i could take a screenshot, but the error did not come up then...
[01:55] <RukusX> cabrey those symptoms dont match. my flash will work flawlessly. until i leave my laptop alone for a few hours, then it stopss
[01:55] <SuperSenior> oh kay haha, i thought it was "tds" one sec tyfovo
[01:55] <ectospasm> ...hmmm, I wonder why LVM isn't included on the LiveCD?  Is it just that the installer doesn't have the capability for it?  Are the libraries and whatnot necessary for LVM too large for such a fringe feature?
[01:56] <cabrey> RukusX, you havent tried the open source alternatives, have you?
[01:56] <Guest90272> Can someone help me out.. its my second day with ubuntu
[01:56] <cabrey> !ask
[01:56] <tyfovo> i have a sony vaio c2zb, if its to any help...
[01:56] <burn_> where can I read about making something start on boot?
[01:56] <Gnaritas_> Fusion
[01:56] <RukusX> cabrey, no.  can you tell me what i need to do, to uninstall flash and then install open source?
[01:56] <anzan> !botsnack
[01:56] <SuperSenior> tyfovo, i think from what im learning, this might be a driver issue. thats what it looks like from doing a bit of searching
[01:57] <Jeruvy> !startup | burn_
[01:57] <Guest90272> I need to get amarok or another media player to play songs, it will only play some
[01:57] <cabrey> RukusX, well i'll tell you right now that the open source alternatives are crap compared to non-free flash. but we can use them as a way to see if it is a flash problem or another problem
[01:57] <burn_> !boot
[01:57] <tyfovo> is there anything i can do about it?
[01:57] <cabrey> Guest90272, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[01:58] <tyfovo> sony only has drivers for xp and vista=(
[01:58] <volrath> Is there a way for me to install all avalibal development packacges
[01:58] <cabrey> Guest90272, wait, ubuntu or kubuntu?
[01:58] <OOT> lstarnes: are you still there?
[01:58] <lstarnes> OOT: yes
[01:58] <SuperSenior> yeah thats usually the case. a manufacture decides they dont feel like releasing driver specs lol. lets see if there is a workaround tyfovo
[01:59] <tyfovo> where in ubuntu can i find which hardware and drivers are istalled?
[01:59] <nick125> In Ubuntu's fancy-shmancy screen implementation, is there a way to "change" the profile for just a certain session? I want all of my sessions to be ubuntu-dark, but I want to be able to set my irssi session to plain.
[01:59] <cabrey> tyfoo, the kernel has builtin support for tons of hardware, but you can list inserted modules by typing lsmod in a terminal
[01:59] <Guest90272> so can i play songs
[02:00] <SuperSenior> thank you cabrey! i was stumped there haha
[02:00] <wolter> hi
[02:00] <OOT> lstarnes: can I add a default channel to some kind of config file, I really new with ircd-hybrid...
[02:00] <cabrey> SuperSenior, what did i do?
[02:00] <wolter> is there an application like grapher (for mac) in ubuntu?
[02:00] <lstarnes> OOT: I don't think there's a way to do that in hybrid
[02:00] <SuperSenior> assisted tyfovo! =)
[02:00] <cabrey> oh
[02:00] <cabrey> okie dokie
[02:01] <lstarnes> OOT: I would recommend using a more actively-developed ircd.  ircd-ratbox and charybdis are similar to hybrid and work very well
[02:01] <tyfovo> just type ismod?
[02:01] <burn_> is adding a script in /etc/init.d and calling it in rc.local a poor way of doing things
[02:01] <lstarnes> OOT: inspircd also exists and has a lot of features
[02:01] <SeaPhor> if i wanted to download a font and have access to it globally, where would i put it? /usr/?/?  ??
[02:01] <lstarnes> burn_: somewhat
[02:01] <SuperSenior> yeah tyfovo but look for something about acpi
[02:01] <lstarnes> SeaPhor: maybe /usr/local/share/fonts
[02:02] <tyfovo> says command not found...
[02:02] <lstarnes> tyfovo: insmod
[02:02] <Guest90272> I need help with mp3's please
[02:02] <cabrey> Guest90272, ubuntu or kubuntu?
[02:02] <Guest90272> ubuntu
[02:02] <cabrey> Guest90272, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[02:02] <Guest90272> its my second day
[02:02] <SuperSenior> oh right, insmod, try that tyfovo
[02:02] <OOT> lstarnes: I guess so, ooh a really feel full confuse using ircd-hybrid... Ok I'll try another one that you suggested... once again txh very much...
[02:02] <Guest90272> yeah i got that
[02:03] <SeaPhor> TY lstarnes
[02:03] <lstarnes> OOT: inspircd has pretty good documentation
[02:03] <Guest90272> but some songs still wont play im using amarok
[02:03] <tyfovo> Usage: insmod filename [args].....now what?
[02:03] <lstarnes> OOT: you could also run a services package such as atheme or anope along with it for services such as NickServ and ChanServ
[02:04] <lstarnes> tyfovo: actually, it's lsmod
[02:04] <lstarnes> tyfovo: with a lowercase L
[02:04] <burn_> I put a transmission--daemon script in /etc/init.d and then put  /etc/init.d/transmission-daemon start in rc.local which works, how else should I do that to be more proper?
[02:04] <OOT> lstarnes: Ow... very nice, that's all I need... something with documentation... Ok, ok... 1000% great thanks for you...
[02:04] <tyfovo> tyler@tyler-laptop:~$ Ismod
[02:04] <tyfovo> bash: Ismod: command not found
[02:05] <lstarnes> tyfovo: lowercase L
[02:05] <tyfovo> sorry
[02:05] <Guest90272> cabrey you there
[02:05] <cabrey> Guest90272, yes
[02:05] <SuperSenior> hermmmm, well tyfovo, i can tell you it has to do with the processor
[02:05] <tyfovo> got it now
[02:05] <SuperSenior> did it work tyfovo?
[02:05] <lstarnes> OOT: be warned that you will most likely need to compile those from source, but the process is fairly easy if you have the build-essential package installed
[02:05] <cabrey> Guest90272, ok try sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[02:05] <jimdb> is anyone in here experienced with wireless?  i have a wireless card in my computer that sees my router but when prompted to enter the passcode/password, it won't connect and every minute or two it prompts me to reenter it.  Note:  i'm using kubuntu with ubuntu desktop loaded...i asked in the kubuntu forum but no one has given me a response.
[02:05] <Guest90272> ok so i have that but some songs will not play
[02:05] <Guest90272> i installed that last night
[02:05] <SuperSenior> hey jimdb i think ndiswrapper may help you
[02:06] <Guest90272> thats how i got some to play
[02:06] <cabrey> Guest90272, both of the restricted-extras?
[02:06] <tyfovo> yes the command worked, but i dont really know what im looking for...
[02:06] <Guest90272> umm no il try
[02:06] <Guest90272> i can just do it throug add or remove right
[02:06] <beinghuman> why is nvidia-xconfig not included in nvidia-glx-71?
[02:06] <jimdb> supersenior:  let's stay away from ndiswrapper.  note that I said that the system sees my router.
[02:06] <OOT> lstarnes: OOP! you mean it's not available on ubuntu package?
[02:06] <lstarnes> OOT: I usually don't use packages for ircds
[02:07] <tyfovo> what about the processor?
[02:08] <psycoborg> how can i reset kde to factory defaults ?
[02:08] <OOT> lstarnes: whatsoever, I still interest to this one... Ok, I try look on ubuntu package repository, perhaps I can find...
[02:08] <Guest90272> cabrey i got it so now what
[02:09] <cabrey> psycoborg, /join #kubuntu
[02:09] <cabrey> Guest90272, did you test it out?
[02:09] <lstarnes> OOT: the packaged versions are often different than the compiled versions
[02:09] <psycoborg> oops.
[02:09] <SuperSenior> well tyfovo, acpi is "Advanced Configuration and Power Interface"
[02:09] <psycoborg> im having problems with both.
[02:09] <psycoborg> forgot im in ubuntu.. lol
[02:09] <Guest90272> not yet im about to
[02:09] <Guest90272> thanks
[02:09] <OOT> lstarnes: no matter about version, I need something easily configured...
[02:10] <SuperSenior> tyfovo: and TDS is "tabular data stream"
[02:10] <tyfovo> okey, if its not working, can i turn it off?
[02:10] <lstarnes> OOT: you will always need to deal with editing text-based config files when dealing with ircds
[02:10] <beinghuman> anyone know why when I run nvidia-settings it tells me to run nvidia-xconfig
[02:10] <beinghuman> however, when I run nvidia-xconfig
[02:10] <beinghuman> it's not included in nvidia-glx-71
[02:10] <SuperSenior> tyfovo: it has to do with runnign processes, and i think it is neccesary
[02:11] <lstarnes> OOT: the actual compilation process takes about 5 or 6 commands and is fairly easy
[02:11] <lstarnes> OOT: the online docs for inspircd include how to compile inspircd
[02:11] <tyfovo> so just leave it alone?
[02:11] <SuperSenior> tyfovo: I think you should file a bug report.. :-/
[02:11] <OOT> lstarnes: yes of course, but I easier than "confusing me with ircd-hybrid" ... wkkkkkk...
[02:12] <tyfovo> how do i do that?
[02:12] <SuperSenior> tyfovo: lets find out =) one sec
[02:12] <tyfovo> the screen flashes by so fast... i dont have time to wright it down...
[02:12] <tyfovo> thanks
[02:13] <SuperSenior> tyfovo, are you on ubuntu right now?
[02:13] <tyfovo> yepp
[02:13] <SuperSenior> tyfovo: see the "Help" menu? it should have a "Report a Problem" section
[02:13] <Guest90272> cabrey i got a window saying pakage configuration
[02:14] <SuperSenior> tyfovo: well, actually thats for an application.. lets see..
[02:14] <cabrey> Guest90272, i'm guessing it is a license agreement
[02:14] <tyfovo> system-help and support...
[02:14] <Divinity> anyone know if my webcam is compatible with Ubuntu 9.04 I have the microsoft LifeCam VX-3000
[02:15] <cabrey> !bugs | tyfoo
[02:15] <beinghuman> you guys have been just loads of help
[02:15] <cabrey> !webcam | Divinity
[02:15] <Guest90272> yess but how do i confirm it
[02:15] <cabrey> Guest90272, there should be a next at the bottom right hand corner
[02:16] <try2free> anyone using shorewall, ltsp and squid ? in hardy?
[02:16] <OOT> lstarnes: thank you very much, I find it on ubuntu repository... I ll gona try it... wish me luck...
[02:16] <Divinity> thanks
[02:16] <lstarnes> OOT: I wouldn't use that version
[02:16] <lstarnes> OOT: be warned that it may behave differently than in inspircd's online docs
[02:16] <tyfovo> what do i write in "package"?
[02:16] <cabrey> Divinity, MS Webcams use the uvc standard IIRC
[02:17] <SuperSenior> tyfovo: try this --> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs
[02:17] <Guest90272> umm not it just say <ok> at the bottom but nothing else and i cant click it
[02:17] <Guest90272> should i just close it
[02:17] <Divinity> k
[02:18] <guest> Ok, this is weird.  Installing Grub killed my ability to boot, so I feel like I'm learning to hack my windows disk using the 9.04 boot disk. ((new to Linux, fun way to start off))
[02:18] <SuperSenior> guest: can you still boot into linux?
[02:19] <SuperSenior> guest: wait, can you get to the grub menu?
[02:19] <guest> SS: I can only boot onto CD.  If I take the CD out I get the blue screen of death.
[02:19] <SuperSenior> guest: no grub boot menue?
[02:19] <tyfovo> Where can i find a device manager in ubuntu?
[02:19] <guest> SS: nope, no grub menu
[02:19] <cabrey> Divinity, I take that back, but you are in luck -- there is a driver
[02:19] <Rammler1983> hallo, i can't log in after installing the latest ati driver
[02:19] <cabrey> Rammler1983, graphics card?
[02:19] <SuperSenior> guest: >.< oh! you can reinstall grub!
[02:20] <SuperSenior> tyfovo: one sec lol
[02:20] <cabrey> !grub | guest
[02:20] <guest> SS: that's what I'm trying, but my first attempt was unsuccessful
[02:20] <OOT> lstarnes: OOPS! but it's ok, I'll try it first, if it still confuses me, I ll try your advise to compile from source... Hi, this look something bigger package than ircd-hybrid...
[02:20] <SuperSenior> tyfovo: System>Preferences>Hardware Information
[02:20] <burn_> anyone have experience with pwmconfig?
[02:21] <Vicfred> How do I install ubuntu without burning a cd, can I boot it from my hdd if I already have a linux installation?
[02:21] <SuperSenior> guest: do you just need to figure out configuration for your disk, or can you not even get that far with grub?
[02:21] <guest> SS: I just now figured out which partition my windows disk is on so I can save my links and notes.  :)
[02:21] <mbostwick> hello
[02:21] <tyfovo> cant find it...hmmm
[02:21] <cabrey> !unetbootin
[02:22] <cabrey> tyfoo, try sudo apt-get install gnome-device-manager
[02:22] <guest> SS: I'm not sure where to point Grub to...
[02:22] <cabrey> !tab | guest
[02:22] <tyfovo> nope.. not there, double checked=)
[02:22] <SuperSenior> tyfovo: is it not here-->System>Preferences>Hardware Information?
[02:22] <mbostwick> I am trying to do some programming work and for a short time am using anther computer that runs ubuntu...I was running gentoo, dose anyone know how to install ncurses-devel, I do not have the header files for nucrses :(
[02:22] <cabrey> SuperSenior, isn't installed for me either
[02:23] <Guest90272> cabrey so what now, sorry for the newbyness
[02:23] <cabrey> mbostwick, libncurses-dev
[02:23] <Rammler1983> cabrey 3650 laptop acer apire G9250
[02:23] <cabrey> Guest90272, did it work?
[02:23] <SuperSenior> cabrey: is it something that needs to be installed?
[02:23] <ianw> Hi everyone, I'm doing an assignment on Ubuntu for my MBA and wanted to show the group how friendly you all are by getting a screenshot - feel free to say hello!
[02:23] <cabrey> SuperSenior, i guess, it might be gnome-device-manager
[02:23] <tyfovo> can i install it somehow?
[02:23] <mbostwick> cabrey thanks but I found it under - libncurses5-dev
[02:24] <dthacker> ianw: Ubuntu rocks.
[02:24] <cabrey> mbostwick, i know libncurses-dev is a virtual package :)
[02:24] <SuperSenior> tyfovo: try gnome-device-manager
[02:24] <Flannel> ianw: This is the support channel, you'd be better off in #ubuntu-offtopic, the chat channel.  Thanks. (And Welcome)
[02:24] <Guest90272> no there is no next
[02:24] <boolean> evening
[02:24] <mbostwick> kool works :)
[02:24] <cabrey> Guest90272, could you perhaps screenshot it so I know what were dealing with?
[02:24] <guest> SuperSenior: The last thing I tried was "Installing GRUB to /dev/sda as (hd0)..."
[02:24] <cabrey> !screenshot
[02:24] <ianw> Thanks Flannel -> I'll do that!
[02:24] <mbostwick> thanks cabrey and all .... going to leave now :)
[02:25] <SuperSenior> guest: i havent doen that in a while but let me check.. grub is pretty picky about all the info
[02:25] <boolean> does anyone know how to manipulate gdm so that when one logs in a single X app is launched as opposed to the whole Gnome suite?
[02:25] <cabrey> Rammler1983, Radeon 3650?
[02:25] <OOT> !imagebin
[02:26] <Guest90272> uhhh no still wont play most songs it plays a couple
[02:26] <Rammler1983> cabrey yes radeon mobilaty mobility
[02:26] <guest> SuperSenior: I haven't tried rebooting from that yet, wanted save some notes so I could reaccess them if/when I end up back here.
[02:26] <tyfovo> hmm i guess a whole lot of questionmarks infront of my devices isnt that good...
[02:26] <eross> aarrgghh...  what's the point of linux games if you can't run them due to missing AND depreciated dependencies???
[02:26] <tyfovo> specially infront of the processor
[02:26] <SuperSenior> guest: i found an awesome info page here --> http://www.cameratim.com/computing/linux/restoring-grub
[02:26] <SuperSenior> guest: see if that helps at all =)
[02:27] <SuperSenior> tyfovo: well at least wh KNOW the problem now haha!
[02:27] <tyfovo> yepp
[02:27] <guest> SuperSenior: thanks, I've been going off the ubuntu support pages so far; nice to be able to triangulate.  :)
[02:27] <tyfovo> so i have to surf around and try to find linux drivers?
[02:28] <SuperSenior> tyfovo: can you figure out exactly which processor you have?
[02:28] <tyfovo> yes
[02:28] <Guest90272> Ha fixed the problem i opened that rythimbox thing. it told me i needed a plugin searched it and it installed it and it works thanks for your help though
[02:28] <Divinity> where is that driver
[02:29] <tyfovo> Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU         T5500  @ 1.66GHz
[02:29] <SuperSenior> guest: i dont think its very safe to use "dev/hd1" (just an example) to point to a drive partition
[02:29] <SuperSenior> guest: from my experience lol. i think there is a more exact way to do it
[02:30] <cabrey> Divinity, you will have to compile it yourself
[02:30] <SuperSenior> guest: oh! have you edited the "fstab" file yet?
[02:30] <Guest90272> also one of my firefox addons is not working can anyone help with that
[02:30] <guest> SuperSenior: that was following the directions in the ubuntu page.  No, I haven't done anything with fstab - where and what do I do?  :)
[02:31] <matrixblue> !uuid | SuperSenior
[02:31] <SuperSenior> guest: /etc/fstab which should have all your partitions listed. you could poke around to see if anything looks funny
[02:32] <SuperSenior> tyfovo: if we can figure out which processor you have we might be able to find a driver for it, well, the RIGHT driver for it
[02:33] <Divinity> where is it
[02:33] <SuperSenior> guest: the "/boot/grub.grub.conf" file looks mighty important haha
[02:33] <tyfovo> Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU  T5500  @ 1.66GHz
[02:33] <guest> SuperSenior: the only thing I recognize is /dev/sdc2 being the swap.  it also talks about ... doh, I bet that's the CD's version of etc...
[02:34] <cabrey> Divinity, download this to your desktop: http://mxhaard.free.fr/spca50x/Download/gspcav1-20071224.tar.gz
[02:34] <bkt5401> where can I find out about upgrading from 8.04 to 9.04
[02:34] <swampy> So, I'm having trouble adding repositories in Jaunty.
[02:34] <jrib> !upgrade > bkt5401
[02:34] <Divinity> ok done
[02:34] <SuperSenior> tyfovo: im pretty sure thats a common processor.. i wonder why the "???" were appearing in front of it in the device manager..
[02:34] <wolter> is there any grapher like application in ubuntu (plotting both 2d and 3d graphs from a gui)
[02:34] <wolter> with mathematical functions
[02:35] <SuperSenior> bkt5401: isnt there a way to use the package manager to upgrade?
[02:35] <SuperSenior> wolter: im almost sure of it!
[02:35] <tyfovo> dont know... at intels webpage there is a download for linux... but no ubuntu on the list...
[02:35] <wolter> SuperSenior, which?
[02:35] <SuperSenior> tyfovo: the linux driver will work =)
[02:35] <bkt5401> SuperSenior, I dont know yet
[02:36] <guest> SuperSenior: ok, saw my new fstab and it doesn't show me anything (of what I can interpret) that looks grossly out of whack.
[02:36] <SuperSenior> bkt5401: there is! =) i did it myself
[02:36] <tyfovo> just linux, or debian linux?
[02:36] <SuperSenior> wolter: you could search the "package manager" for "graphing application"
[02:36] <swampy> It's odd, the GUI isn't adding any of the repositories I try to add.
[02:36] <SuperSenior> tyfovo: debian
[02:37] <SuperSenior> guest: there should be an entry for both ubuntu and for windoze
[02:37] <bhowerton> Will ubuntu 9.04 work well running either as a Storage Server (this will be storing just Backup Files from the other servers) or a Proxy Server (monitoring the active connections for about 220 users)???   What are the advantages and disadvantages of using ubuntu for purposes such as this???
[02:38] <wolter> SuperSenior, yeah but not all appear there, anyway I think I just found wxmaxima
[02:38] <wolter> gonna try it
[02:38] <tyfovo> no ubuntu listed... try anyway?
[02:38] <SuperSenior> tyfovo: ubuntu is debian =)
[02:38] <bkt5401> SuperSenior, Thanks
[02:38] <jrib> bhowerton: sure, use ubuntu-server
[02:39] <SuperSenior> bkt5401: did you find it? =)
[02:39] <SuperSenior> bhowerton: if you want help on installing ubuntu server, i reciently did last week.. i can help =)
[02:39] <bhowerton> jrib, should i use ubuntu server or can i use the ubuntu desktop version
[02:39] <Skullbro> What really is the difference between server and desktop short of the server comes with more packages installed that are geared towards server applications?
[02:40] <darkham> hi, how can i set deluge client fot shut down the system when ended a torrent?
[02:40] <bhowerton> thanks supersenior...i might just take you up on that
[02:40] <jrib> bhowerton: you can use the desktop version if you wish, but you'll be installing things that you don't need on a server
[02:40] <tyfovo> its just a text file... hmmm
[02:40] <SuperSenior> bhowerton: i would recommend ubuntu server.. its much faster for server purposes
[02:40] <jrib> bhowerton: in the end ubuntu-server and ubuntu-desktop share the same repositories, they just have a different set of default packages
[02:40] <guest> SuperSenior: there isn't either.  There's UUID's for my ext4 and swap and a mention of the cdrom
[02:41] <SuperSenior> tyfovo: the "driver" is just a tet file?
[02:41] <tyfovo> .dat file
[02:41] <qijun> admin
[02:41] <SuperSenior> guest: i gues we need to add an entry for windoze!
[02:41] <tyfovo> Linux* Processor Microcode Data File
[02:41] <qijun> exit
[02:41] <Divinity> cabrey how do I install this I am confused looking at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware
[02:42] <bhowerton> ok well it look like i will give the ubuntu server a try
[02:42] <TomTommy> How come Ubuntun Developers removed iLBC codec from Ekiga?
[02:42] <TomTommy> how can I talk to a Ubuntu developer?
[02:42] <cabrey> Divinity, i am trying to figure it out, there is little to no documentation
[02:42] <SuperSenior> bhowerton: do you have the iso file?
[02:42] <swampy> Tom: Check the ubuntu fora. It's silly with 'em.
[02:42] <Divinity> ahhh ok
[02:42] <jrib> TomTommy: did you check the changelog or maybe comments in the patch?
[02:42] <bhowerton> Super Senior, i will take you up on the offer for help
[02:43] <TomTommy> jrib: where?
[02:43] <bhowerton> yes i have it on a dvd
[02:43] <SuperSenior> bhowerton: ok lets get started! haha
[02:43] <jrib> !changelogs | TomTommy
[02:43] <TomTommy> brb
[02:43] <jrib> TomTommy: otherwise download the source package and read it
[02:44] <guest> SuperSenior: Er, ok.  And that will make my boot record listen to grub?  (thanks for all the help, btw)
[02:44] <ims> network connection help, anybody???
[02:44] <bhowerton> i also have a seperate machine to install it on so i can go back and forth easily
[02:44] <matrixblue> ims sup?
[02:44] <ims> yes
[02:44] <SuperSenior> bhowerton: is this machine hooked up to a router?
[02:44] <matrixblue> ims what's the problem?
[02:44] <ims> I have to restart before I can connect.
[02:45] <SuperSenior> guest: yeah grub uses that file to list the installed os's on the drive
[02:45] <gabriel> Hi everyone
[02:45] <SuperSenior> guest: with out the list, grub assumes there are no installed os's
[02:45] <dajhorn> TomTommy: Debian removed it upstream because it has an incompatible license, so it was dropped when Ubuntu imported the package.
[02:45] <n2diy> can you hot swap pcmcia devices?
[02:46] <matrixblue> ims, I need more details of the problem. What kind of connection is it? (wireless wired) Are you using a router or directly connected via modem?
[02:46] <gabriel> I have a question: will I benefit from ext4 in ubuntu 9.04? I would like to change from ext3 to ext without having to reinstall ubuntu
[02:46] <gabriel> sorry, ext4
[02:46] <guest> SuperSenior: Do you know what the syntax needs to be?
[02:46] <SuperSenior> bhowerton: go ahead and pop the dvd in and boot the new server
[02:46] <SuperSenior> guest: nope but i bet we can find it haha
[02:46] <TomTommy> dajhorn: DAMN! :( Because I need iLBC :(
[02:46] <m1chael> will i be able to remote desktop in to a remote server?
[02:46] <tyfovo> 1) Save the file downloaded from the Intel web site to your
[02:46] <tyfovo>       hard drive.
[02:46] <tyfovo>    2) Run the downloaded file to extract all setup files.
[02:46] <tyfovo>    3) Run the setup.bat file while a blank 1.44 MB floppy disk is
[02:46] <tyfovo>       in the drive.
[02:46] <FloodBot1> tyfovo: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:46] <tyfovo>    4) Restart the computer with the floppy disk in the drive.  The
[02:47] <bhowerton> ok i had to hook up the cable real quick, but it is connected now
[02:47] <TomTommy> dajhorn: are you ubuntu developer?
[02:47] <dajhorn> TomTommy: You'll need to recompile the package yourself.
[02:47] <bhowerton> i will start the dvd
[02:47] <TomTommy> dajhorn: whats incompatible license mean?
[02:47] <tyfovo> sorry
[02:47] <dajhorn> TomTommy: No.
[02:47] <TomTommy> dajhorn: how can I do that?
[02:47] <glicks> hey is there a channel geared torward netbooks?
[02:47] <gabriel> I have a question: will I benefit from ext4 in ubuntu 9.04? I would like to change from ext3 to ext4 without having to reinstall ubuntu
[02:47] <m1chael> will i be able to remote desktop in to a remote server? im new with ubuntu (sorry asking again due to channel flood)
[02:47] <Divinity> how do I find the file on my desktop in terminal?
[02:47] <SuperSenior> tyfovo: dont worry i did that my first time to haha
[02:48] <SuperSenior> tyfovo: try pastebin.com
[02:48] <TomTommy> dajhorn> TomTommy: You'll need to recompile the package yourself. <-- how pls?
[02:48] <Skullbro> Michael, http://www.ubuntugeek.com/share-your-ubuntu-desktop-using-remote-desktop.html
[02:48] <unitheory> Divinity, cd ~/Desktop && ls
[02:48] <dajhorn> TomTommy: You'll need to search for a tutorial.  Start by running`apt-get source ekiga` at a prompt and see what you get.
[02:48] <SuperSenior> guest: its not that complicated but we might have to do some guess and check
[02:48] <TomTommy> dajhorn: can I download it direct from Ekiga?
[02:49] <cabrey> Divinity, it seems this will not compile on ubuntu 9.04. you'll need to file a bug against gspca-source
[02:49] <bhowerton> hold on just a second more
[02:49] <ims> matrixblue, I'm on wired, auto eth0. my /etc/network/interfaces is: auto lo    iface lo inet loopback   I'm directly connected to modem
[02:49] <dajhorn> TomTommy: Yes, but you should try to find a deb package before you try to do a local install.
[02:49] <Divinity> ok
[02:49] <matrixblue> ims, when you're not connected do you have an IP address?
[02:49] <TomTommy> dajhorn: there are no deb packages
[02:49] <n2diy> Divinity: locate
[02:49] <cabrey> Divinity, wait, I'm going to ask ##kernel
[02:49] <youshaoyun> hello
[02:50] <Divinity> when I got to the desktop that tar was in red
[02:50] <SuperSenior> guest: the windows entry should look like this.. line 1:title Windows line 2:rootnoverify (hd0,0)
[02:50] <dajhorn> TomTommy: http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Compiling_Ekiga
[02:50] <youshaoyun> quit
[02:50] <SuperSenior> guest: I hope lol
[02:51] <Divinity> what is ##kernel?
[02:51] <TomTommy> dajhorn: whats incompatible license mean?
[02:51] <SuperSenior> tyfovo: i think thats a windows driver
[02:51] <ims> matrixblue: yes, on my nm-applet connection info  IP ADDRESS is 112.200.25.58
[02:51] <bhowerton> ok SuperSenior it is now starting the install process
[02:51] <dajhorn> TomTommy: Means "non-free according to Debian".
[02:51] <TomTommy> dajhorn: iLBC is FREE
[02:51] <cabrey> Divinity, it is the linux kernel channel
[02:51] <matrixblue> ims, So what doesn't work? the web browser?
[02:51] <SuperSenior> bhowerton: OH MAKE SURE ITS NOT CONNECTED TO THE INTERNET LOL
[02:52] <ircnickiuse> how can I reverse: sudo dpkg-divert --local --add --rename /usr/bin/pulseaudio
[02:52] <lstarnes> TomTommy: it's a different form of non-free
[02:52] <dajhorn> TomTommy: *shrug*  They don't think so.   It seems to be removed.
[02:52] <SuperSenior> bhowerton: that will make it fail the install
[02:52] <Divinity> I dont know my second day running this I am new
[02:52] <lstarnes> TomTommy: as in freedom, not price
[02:52] <ircnickiuse> so it is no longer diverted?
[02:52] <TomTommy> lstarnes: ok
[02:52] <matrixblue> !caps | SuperSenior
[02:52] <gabriel> I have a question: will I benefit from ext4 in ubuntu 9.04? I would like to change from ext3 to ext without having to reinstall ubuntu
[02:52] <SuperSenior> haha it was very important!!!
[02:52] <gabriel> ext4
[02:52] <ircnickiuse> What is the compliment of this command: sudo dpkg-divert --local --add --rename /usr/bin/pulseaudio    so I the package is no longer diverted
[02:52] <guest> SuperSenior:  Think that will be sufficient?
[02:53] <bhowerton> ok
[02:53] <cabrey> i wonder....
[02:53] <SuperSenior> guest: i hope so!
[02:53] <cabrey> !ext4
[02:53] <matrixblue> gabriel, yeah and it's possible. I'll find you a guide
[02:53] <SuperSenior> bhowerton: yeah it took me hours to figure that out. very frustrating
[02:53] <gabriel> thanks matrixblue
[02:53] <ims> matrixblue: everything works except that when my I start on a cold boot network connection is not established until I do a restart. I'm on XUBUNTU 8.10 by the way
[02:53] <matrixblue> gabriel, I assume you're using Jaunty
[02:54] <beinghuman> why can't I use nvidia-xconfig with nvidia-glx-71?!?!?!?!
[02:54] <gabriel> yeah, jaunty
[02:54] <guest> SuperSenior: Ok, saving a few more notes and rebooting.  *fingers crossed*
[02:54] <SuperSenior> matrixblue: some things are just that important ;)
[02:54] <jrib> ircnickiuse: the man page spells it out pretty explicityl.  The switch is --remove iirc (not on debian right now)
[02:54] <beinghuman> i try to run the damn thing and it says it's only in high version packages
[02:54] <bhowerton> it is now at the point to select the language and other options
[02:54] <beinghuman> but when I try to run nvidia-settings it say I need to run nvidia-xconfig
[02:54] <beinghuman> which I don't have, because it's not in my version
[02:54] <matrixblue> ims, I've never encountered that before. Maybe someone else knows what's going on
[02:54] <unitheory> gabriel, i've tried ext2 ext3 ext4 and xfs and haven't noticed much of a difference among them
[02:55] <emmy> how are things here?
[02:55] <gabriel> for me ext3 works fine
[02:55] <emmy> matrixblue: i like your nick.
[02:55] <ircnickiuse> yeah, if I wanted man I wouldn't waste my time here, so like: sudo dpkg-divert --local --remove --rename /usr/bin/pulseaudio    ??
[02:55] <SuperSenior> emmy: Great!
[02:55] <matrixblue> emmy, thanks :)
[02:55] <emmy> cool
[02:55] <gabriel> Its just that I have been reading so much about ext4
[02:55] <Divinity> how do I tell if I have 32 bit os or 64?
[02:55] <matrixblue> gabriel, http://paste.ubuntu.com/193903/
[02:56] <jrib> ircnickiuse: if you read the man page it has specific examples.  I'm not here to read manpages for you though I'll guide you to the right place to look
[02:56] <gabriel> thanks matrixblue
[02:56] <matrixblue> gabriel, np
[02:56] <SuperSenior> jrib: sometimes man pages can be intimidating to newbies
[02:56] <ircnickiuse> jrib, all the same, I'll wait for someone else to read them for me
[02:56] <jrib> ircnickiuse: good luck with that.
[02:56] <SuperSenior> lol
[02:56] <bhowerton> SuperSenior, should I just select the default options
[02:56] <ircnickiuse> jrib, thanks
[02:57] <dajhorn> Divinity: Run `uname -a` at the prompt.  The second-last word is the architecture.
[02:57] <cabrey> Divinity, you might be in luck, people in ##kernel said that, support is built into newer kernels
[02:57] <SuperSenior> bhowerton: as far as language and keyboard yeah it should be safe
[02:57] <gabriel> one question:matrixblue, do I need to do this from the bootable cd or directly from my installed Ubuntu?
[02:57] <SeaPhor> i did sudo -i, then i tried to cp -r /path/to/dir/ /media/disk/   but get permission error for sym link... any help?
[02:57] <guest> SuperSenior: Just noticed that what you proposed doesn't seem similar to what was on the link you gave me: http://www.cameratim.com/computing/linux/restoring-grub - proceed anyway you think?
[02:57] <beinghuman> anyone know why nvidia-xconfig isn't in nvidia-glx-71?
[02:57] <Divinity> run in terminal?
[02:58] <Divinity> run in terminal?
[02:58] <SuperSenior> guest: there is an extra part i forgot about chainloader or something.. add that =)
[02:58] <matrixblue> gabriel, I'm assuming a live CD
[02:58] <jrib> SuperSenior: sure, but I'm not pointing him to man bash, I'm pointing him to a two page man page half of which is examples
[02:58] <Divinity> sorry
[02:58] <dajhorn> SeaPhor: You cannot put links on a USB disk that is FAT formatted.
[02:58] <gabriel> yeah, a live cd
[02:58] <SuperSenior> jrib: point taken =)
[02:58] <SeaPhor> dajhorn, good to know,, TY
[02:58] <ims> matrixblue: thanks, I guess I have to continue "Google-ing" for it.
[02:58] <Divinity> cd
[02:58] <guest> SuperSenior: erm, don't see anything about that.
[02:59] <matrixblue> ims, google = greatest resource of this century
[02:59] <SuperSenior> guest: "chainloader +1" perhaps?
[02:59]  * dajhorn worships at the Truth Machine
[02:59] <SuperSenior> matrixblue: amen to that!
[02:59] <SeaPhor> dajhorn, will it affect the file? can i replace the sym links once transfered? or should i just tar.gz the dir and move it that way?
[03:00] <dajhorn> Yes, and probably no.   Your best choice to create a tarball or a zip.
[03:00] <gabriel> thanks for the help
[03:00] <gabriel> Good night everyone
[03:00] <Divinity> ok I got linux ubuntu 2.6.28-11-generic #42-unbuntu SMP fir apr 17 01:57:58 UTC 2009 i686 gun/linux
[03:00] <SeaPhor> dajhorn, again, TY
[03:00] <dajhorn> SeaPhor: Np.
[03:00] <SuperSenior> bhowerton: how is it progressing?
[03:00] <dajhorn> Divinity: That means you are on a 32-bit computer.  A 64-bit computer would say x86_64.
[03:01] <ircnickiuse> jrib, thanks for the info, and I am just really pissed off today
[03:01] <jrib> ircnickiuse: glad you figured it out... teach the man fish and all that stuff :)
[03:02] <SuperSenior> jrib: haha very true
[03:02] <Divinity> ahhh
[03:02] <ircnickiuse> jrib, you've lost your captive market?
[03:02] <unitheory> teach a man to fish and he will buy an ugly hat?
[03:02] <theyeti> those ugly hats are comfortable
[03:02] <Divinity> I'll have to download the 64 bit version at my gf's then
[03:02] <LoneShadow> how do I make the wifi connection to auto connect without asking to press "connect"
[03:02] <bhowerton> SuperSenior, well it is going pretty good.  It is now at the Network configuration....it failed this.  i think that it is because my router is not setup to hand out DHCP.  That is disabled.  Should I go ahead and enter the static ip and related settings
[03:02] <unitheory> is 64 bit much faster on a capable machine?
[03:03] <SuperSenior> bhowerton: is it completely DISCONNECTED from the router?
[03:03] <jrib> unitheory: 64bit allows you to address more memory
[03:03] <bhowerton> yes...yes it is
[03:03] <unitheory> more than 4gb? hardly seems necessary
[03:04] <_law_> hi guys, need help here XD
[03:04] <jrib> unitheory: i'm sure someone said the same about far less at some point :)
[03:04] <Pieces> Hi all, I have a ati radeon 9200se pci card, but I cannont get desktop effects enabled, any suggestions?
[03:04] <SuperSenior> bhowerton: and it failed.. >.< well the router is fine.. no need to adjust. ubuntu server is happy to be "served" an ip address
[03:04] <guest> SuperSenior: ok, here goes nothing.  I'll check back once I have results in a few minutes
[03:04] <TomTommy> DAMN the Ubuntu developers :(  They removed iLBC from Twinkle too :(
[03:04] <SuperSenior> unitheory: what if you are running a $10,000 server ;)
[03:04] <SuperSenior> guest: good luck!
[03:04] <somaunn> Pieces; did u install drivers
[03:05] <unitheory> SuperSenior, servers are a different story
[03:05] <Pieces> somaunn, they crash my computer if I install the ones from the ati website
[03:05] <Pieces> somaunn, also when I install the ones in the repository
[03:05] <SuperSenior> unitheory: any desktop can become a server =)
[03:05] <dajhorn> PAE makes 32/64 bit mode on desktop computers with more than 4GB a wash.
[03:05] <_law_> i've accidentally format ubuntu drive from winxp that makes grub gone, and now i can't boot into winxp , what shoul i do,?
[03:05] <dajhorn> Mostly.
[03:05] <SuperSenior> bhowerton: what step did it fail on?
[03:06] <somaunn> Pieces, then install the recommanded one from the repo
[03:06] <LoneShadow> do you guys use the default software to connect to wifi connections ?
[03:06] <unitheory> LoneShadow, i do!
[03:06] <somaunn> Pieces,means you got a serious problem
[03:06] <Pieces> _law_ there is a Grub boot cd that can fix your grub
[03:06] <SuperSenior> LoneShadow: i actually had to download a seperate driver to connect
[03:07] <bhowerton> SuperSenior: it failed with trying to obtain a dhcp address...i think because it was unplugged.
[03:07] <dajhorn> _law_: You can use the Recovery Console from the Windows Installer to fix the boot loader, or you can reinstall grub from the Ubuntu installer.
[03:07] <cabrey> LoneShadow, some people use wicd, but I use network manager personally
[03:07] <tyfovo> http://www.linux.it/~malattia/wiki/index.php/Sony_drivers.............. can someone check this out and help me with it?
[03:07] <Pieces> somaunn, I think its just a really old card, and it's not supported anymore... I can't find any drivers that work
[03:07] <_law_> dajhorn, how to dothat?
[03:07] <SuperSenior> bhowerton: perhaps i was wrong.. maby try it connected? but that is bizzare
[03:07] <bhowerton> SuperSenior: i did go ahead and enter the...IP address, subnet mask, gateway, and dns
[03:08] <LoneShadow> when I switch on my laptop, the default wifi takes a while to connect, and it also stops to ask me to press connect, even though the WEP password is enabled
[03:08] <bhowerton> should i restart the installation
[03:08] <_law_> howto  use the Recovery Console from the Windows Installer to fix the boot loader,
[03:08] <dajhorn> _law_: Are you more comfortable at a Windows prompt, or at a Linux prompt?  You could do further damage if you make a mistake.
[03:08] <somaunn> Pieces, or maybe u should submit a report and wait for things to be corrected
[03:08] <LoneShadow> cabrey, is wicd better than network manager ?
[03:09] <SuperSenior> bhowerton: so is continuing?
[03:09] <Pieces> somaunn, i'll give it a shot
[03:09] <somaunn> Pieces, what version of ubuntu are u using ?
[03:09] <cabrey> LoneShadow, if nm doesn't work for you, it doesn't hurt to give it a try, but it is mainly personal opinion
[03:09] <_law_> dajhorn, can u give me the step by step instruction?
[03:10] <SuperSenior> cabrey: why would question marks appear in front of the processor in the "Device Manager"?
[03:10] <Pieces> somaunn, 9.04 also all the drivers in synaptic say they are for newer cards, and this is nothing close to new
[03:10] <bhowerton> SuperSenior:ok well i will not restart the entire installation, correct??? on the current path though it is asking me to enter the hostname
[03:10] <guest> SuperSenior: No luck
[03:10] <SuperSenior> bhowerton: will it let you continue or go back a step or something similar?
[03:10] <cabrey> SuperSenior, if the bios isn't letting it through most likely
[03:10] <bhowerton> SuperSenior: i was able to continue
[03:11] <somaunn> Pieces, then urself an Nvidia and u wont struggle like that
[03:11] <SuperSenior> cabrey: but the computer can still run? just unstable?
[03:11] <bhowerton> i am now at the hostname prompt
[03:11] <dajhorn> _law_: Start here http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314058 but note that this channel is the wrong place to get help with Microsoft products.
[03:11] <SuperSenior> bhowerton: yeah keep going =)
[03:11] <cabrey> SuperSenior, stability isnt affected at all
[03:11] <SuperSenior> guest: blue death screen?
[03:11] <SuperSenior> cabrey: and it will still run?
[03:12] <guest> SuperSenior: Yep: "You ain't shoud'a done that" *bzzzzt*
[03:12] <texasjack> Anyone here can install the package 'gentoo' without a really _big_ mess with dependencies? The same with 'gnome-desktop-environment'....
[03:12] <SuperSenior> guest: ok lets see
[03:12] <cabrey> SuperSenior, it should
[03:12] <somaunn> bye guys
[03:13] <bhowerton> SuperSenior: ok i entered the hostname...the next thing that it is asking for is the domain name
[03:13] <bhowerton> SuperSenior: what do i enter there
[03:13] <texasjack> Afff... 'gentoo'.... It's 'gnome'... o.O  The problem is with 'gnome' and 'gnome-desktop-environment'...
[03:13] <bhowerton> SuperSenior: because i don´t have a domain
[03:14] <dajhorn> texasjack: No.
[03:14] <guest> SuperSenior: original fstab restored (at least I'm getting quicker at all this :))
[03:14] <SuperSenior> guest: try fdisk -l with your live boot cd
[03:14] <OGS> Some person that speak in spanish here?
[03:14] <cabrey> !es
[03:14] <dajhorn> texasjack: Trick typo.  There is a gentoo package
[03:14] <texasjack> dajhorn, they are supposed to not be installed?
[03:14] <SuperSenior> paste the output on pastebin.com
[03:15] <pccc> how come this happens: which ejabberdctl => /sbin/ejabberdctl  ;    ejabberdctl => -bash: /usr/sbin/ejabberdctl: No such file or directory
[03:15] <SuperSenior> bhowerton: you can make something up like "server.local"
[03:15] <guest> SuperSenior: yeah, I tried that before, and now again it still gives me nothing
[03:15] <texasjack> dajhorn, yeah, I know... But my memory is dumping.... Memory panic, almost...
[03:15] <dajhorn> texasjack: No, gnome-desktop-evironment has many dependencies.  A few hundred megs I think.
[03:15] <SuperSenior> guest: fdisk -l gives you nothing?
[03:16] <texasjack> dajhorn, and just 'gnome'?
[03:16] <dajhorn> texasjack: Several.
[03:16] <guest> SuperSenior: right.  I opened a terminal, (changed directories a few times), type 'fdisk -l' and it just gives me another prompt line
[03:16] <dajhorn> texasjack: Package gnome depends on package gnome-desktop-environment.
[03:17] <SuperSenior> guest: fdisk wants to know what device to look on
[03:17] <bhowerton> SuperSenior: well things are moving along quite well
[03:17] <SuperSenior> bhowerton: thats excellent news!
[03:17] <texasjack> dajhorn, OK, thanks.  But it's strange cause I don't have 'fam' installed... It's supposed to not install it, too?
[03:17] <pingPong> guest: sudo fdisk -l
[03:17] <unitheory> guest, sudo fdisk -l
[03:17] <unitheory> jinx
[03:17] <SuperSenior> ah. sudo haha
[03:17] <SuperSenior> rofl
[03:18] <guest> *boing* yep, sudo did it
[03:18] <SuperSenior> guest: ok pastebin the output so we can have a looksie
[03:18] <bhowerton> SuperSenior: it is now time to setup / partition the disks
[03:18] <guest> SuperSenior: how do I do that?
[03:18] <dajhorn> texasjack: Fam doesn't seem to be in the dependency list for gnome on my Jaunty workstation.
[03:19] <SuperSenior> if you go to www.pastebin.com and paste the output, it will give you a url to post here
[03:19] <dajhorn> texasjack: Do you have a specific problem that you're trying to solve?  Most people shouldn't care about things like fam.
[03:19] <texasjack> dajhorn, it's on the 'gnome-desktop-environment' dependencies...
[03:19] <wtl> where can i get ypops? the repo is gone
[03:19] <bhowerton> SuperSenior: this is where i am kinda confused.   it will not be a dual boot.  the entire disk can be used for what ever
[03:19] <SuperSenior> bhowerton: go ahead and nuke the whole thing unless you need anthing off of it
[03:20] <dajhorn> texasjack: The fam package is in the universe repository, so it cannot be a gnome dependency.
[03:20] <bhowerton> SuperSenior: which option should i select
[03:20] <SuperSenior> bhowerton: what options is it giving you?
[03:20] <lindzeyn> question.  I am using apt-get and I am trying to install R.  Is r-base the base package for R?
[03:20] <DINK_> Where should I put a shell command that I need to run everytime I boot my ubuntu machine?
[03:20] <guest> SuperSenior: nifty :) http://pastebin.com/d3312f810
[03:20] <SuperSenior> guest: awesome!
[03:21] <SuperSenior> guest: see the systems that are "ntfs"?
[03:21] <toenail> does anyone know of a good audio recording , audio editing software that works with ALSA
[03:21] <guest> SuperSenior: AHA, I see something - sda2 is my boot on sda.. I might have pointed it to sd1
[03:21] <SuperSenior> guest: progress!!!
[03:21] <guest> SuperSenior: sda1 even
[03:22] <texasjack> dajhorn, very strange... 2 last questions: [1] 'swfdec-gnome' is a requirement to gnome? or it'll mess up with the already installed 'flash'?   [2] How can I remove and purge the 'usplash' and 'usplash-ubuntu-theme' packages? It's a mess with dependencies...
[03:22] <calmbola> can anyone tell me how to change the default on ubuntu so that windows are NOT the full size of the display?
[03:22] <harrisony> Has anyone had issues with maxtor one touches on laptops not being picked up
[03:23] <bhowerton> guided - use entire disk            /          guided - use entire disk and setup lvm        /           guided - use entire disk and setup encrypted lvm           /            resize and use the previous partion and lvm
[03:23] <guest> SuperSenior: now to try to find the directions I followed for tweaking grub.
[03:23] <SuperSenior> bhowerton: guided, use entire disk
[03:23] <unitheory> calmbola, that is the default. do you have a small screen?
[03:23] <afjrotc1> hi
[03:23] <SuperSenior> bhowerton: first option
[03:23] <harrisony> dmesg and lsusb have nothing whn i plug it in and the light on the hard drive is on
[03:23] <SuperSenior> bhowerton: when in doubt, keep it simple =)
[03:23] <afjrotc1> any gay out there
[03:23] <guest> SuperSenior: what were you saying about the ntfs sectors?
[03:24] <dajhorn> texasjack: Mixing swfdec and the proprietary flash plugin will produce a bad result.  Ubuntu does not install swfdec by default.
[03:24] <SuperSenior> guest: those are windows sectors.. ntfs is the file system for windoze
[03:24] <SeaPhor> harrisony, do a tail -f /var/log/messages and then plug in the device
[03:24] <dajhorn> texasjack: Rather than trying to remove usplash, consider editing the /boot/grub/menu.lst file to disable it.
[03:24] <SuperSenior> guest: im not sure why there are two, but one of them is the windows partition
[03:25] <bhowerton> SuperSenior: ok...well it is formatting the partitions
[03:25] <dajhorn> texasjack: Remove the "usplash" word from the defoptions=
[03:25] <guest> SuperSenior: one is the archive partition
[03:25] <texasjack> dajhorn, thank you. Very much! I didin't think in this possibility... :)
[03:26] <bhowerton> SuperSenior: it just started installing the base system
[03:26] <dajhorn> texasjack: Np.  Make a backup of menu.lst before you change it.
[03:26] <SuperSenior> bhowerton: can you join #seaphor so we can walk through it?
[03:26] <linux_stu> i was told that there is a special way to install ubuntu (resulting in a leaner system) if it is solely going to be used as a vm host.  is this true?
[03:26] <groken> i'm looking for a library that supports the ISIS scanning protocol. extra credit if it comes with python support
[03:27] <bhowerton> ok.....   lets see
[03:27] <Flannel> linux_stu: JeOS is what you're looking for.
[03:27] <SuperSenior> bhowerton: do you know how to join rooms?
[03:27] <usser> linux_stu, just install ubuntu server
[03:28] <calmbola> unitheory, yes i do... but i don't want it to be the default
[03:28] <SuperSenior> guest: we want to point grub to the other partition
[03:28] <calmbola> i prefer my many windows open on my screen
[03:28] <Flannel> linux_stu: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/serveredition/jeos
[03:28] <calmbola> unitheory, actually, i prefer the size i last opened the window to
[03:28] <linux_stu> Flannel, does JeOS have X?
[03:28] <bhowerton> well i thought
[03:28] <bhowerton> could you help me out
[03:29] <SuperSenior> bhowerton: im in seaphore lol
[03:29] <bhowerton> i am really new to the whole chatting thing
[03:29] <SuperSenior> bhowerton: /join seaphor
[03:29] <linux_stu> Flannel, nevermind. it doesn't
[03:29] <bhowerton> where do i type that
[03:30] <Flannel> linux_stu: If you want X, I believe what you'll want to do (well, the simplest method) is install a regular Ubuntu system, and then after install, install linux-image-virtual
[03:30] <glicks> hey is there a chat line for the eee based ubuntu
[03:30] <Flannel> linux_stu: which is just a kernel biased towards VMs.  Once you've installed it (and it works), remove the -generic kernels
[03:30] <guest> SuperSenior: so if I say "sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt/root /dev/(windows one)" you think it should work?
[03:30] <glicks> or does anyone know much about netbooks
[03:30] <bhowerton> ok i am in there now
[03:30] <ircnickiuse> did anyone come up with a satifying answer as to why 9.04 desktop DOESN'T HAVE PAE IN KERNEL
[03:30] <ircnickiuse> ?
[03:31] <linux_stu> ok Flannel.  i will do that
[03:31] <unitheory> calmbola, i don't think ubuntu currently has that functionality
[03:31] <SuperSenior> guest: ehhh, ive never used the grub-install command but haha why not. just make sure you have the right windows partition
[03:31] <Flannel> ircnickiuse: This isn't the channel for that question.  I'm not sure which the best one would be, but #ubuntu-offtopic might be a good start.
[03:32] <calmbola> unitheory, are you serious?
[03:32] <calmbola> so i am stuck with default to make the screen the full size on open?
[03:32] <ircnickiuse> Flannel, yeah, don't think so
[03:33] <guest> SuperSenior: the thing you had me post in pastebin has a boot * next to sda2 so I guess I'll give it a try
[03:33] <dajhorn> ircnickiuse: Check the kernel source package for comments.  I think that PAE kernel requires a non-trivial minimum amount of memory to boot properly.
[03:33] <SuperSenior> ircnickiuse: take a deep breath lol =)
[03:33] <SuperSenior> guest: definitely!
[03:33] <harrisony> SeaPhor: yep, /var/log/messages has nothing
[03:33] <cabrey> ircnickiuse, if you got it working, who cares?
[03:34] <ircnickiuse> eh, this shit cost me hours now of fiddling around, and broke some other stuff I spent time getting working, all for something that is supported by the very facts present at retail today
[03:34] <ircnickiuse> cabrey, because it broke something else
[03:34] <ircnickiuse> that is now pissing me off even more
[03:34] <FloodBot1> ircnickiuse: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:34] <guest> SuperSenior: doh!  the help page says the fix isn't for my situation (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows)
[03:34] <Flannel> ircnickiuse: Alright.  But please stay on topic here.  This is a support channel, not a discussion channel.
[03:34] <cabrey> ircnickiuse, the server kernel broke something?
[03:34] <FeasibilityStudy> ircnickiuse how about buying a 64 bit processor?
[03:34] <cabrey> he has one
[03:34] <abbazabba> i recently acquired a new hard drive.. what would be the best way to incorporate it into this system?
[03:35] <ircnickiuse> cabrey, I had sound working, and then I install the server kernel, and because of that, sound stopped working (well not because of it, but because I restarted, anyway, it was all part of the annoyance) so it highlighted the whole futility of it.
[03:35] <Flannel> ircnickiuse: (I'd classify the current discussion as support, but do try and avoid ranting)
[03:35] <ircnickiuse> FeasibilityStudy, I am running a 64bit processor you insensitive clod
[03:35] <wWales> my monitor wont display 800x600 properly, no luck at nvnews
[03:35] <ircnickiuse> Flannel, you aren't wrong
[03:35] <cabrey> ircnickiuse, well thats what i meant by check your hardware
[03:35] <FeasibilityStudy> ircnickiuse then why do you need PAE?
[03:35] <ircnickiuse> FeasibilityStudy, 8gb ram
[03:36] <cabrey> ircnickiuse, your best bet is to go back to ubuntu x64 and we can help you install skype
[03:36] <ircnickiuse> (then why don't you run 64bit OS?) because I need som 32bit apps
[03:36] <guest> SuperSenior: the fix the page suggests says it is to be done from within windows.  Any idea how to restore my windows boot record?
[03:36] <unitheory> 32-bit vm?
[03:36] <Hodapp> I am using a mouse that has had its scroll wheel work on every distro I've tried since 2004, and "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" is in my xorg.conf . . . . but my scroll wheel is not functioning.
[03:36] <ircnickiuse> cabrey, yeah, i could, but I'd need to wait to have it reimaged, and I'd still need to get alsa dummy sound working again
[03:36] <roy_hobbs> I'd like to know if I install Wubi if I can convert it into a full ubuntu install OR do a full ubuntu install from there (or anyway to do an install without a CD or USB drive)
[03:36] <bkt5401> Well everyone. You'll be pleased to know that the upgrade zepplin has burst into flames
[03:36] <ircnickiuse> that is my main sticking point - volume mixer says it has no device to manage
[03:37] <Hodapp> anyone have any idea why not? can I dump raw events from the mouse and see if the scroll wheel does anythig?
[03:37] <ircnickiuse> but it all seems to be ok....
[03:37] <SuperSenior> guest: yeah, we just need to get grub to recongnize windoze
[03:37] <cabrey> ircnickiuse, what on the 64 bit kernel it worked before
[03:37] <bkt5401> Everything is failing faster than i can click 'ok'
[03:37] <cabrey> but*
[03:37] <SeaPhor> harrisony, then try a different USB port
[03:37] <SuperSenior> guest: do you think maybe reinstalling grub might help?
[03:37] <bkt5401> and now that something has failed to install everything else is failing because of dependencies
[03:37] <unitheory> Hodapp, you could try this: backup your xorg.conf and replace it with a default one
[03:37] <dajhorn> ircnickiuse: Do you know about the ia32-libs package?  Most 32-bit stuff will run on a 64-bit system.
[03:37] <abbazabba> i recently got a used hard drive.. would it be as simple as hooking it up and running it to use it?
[03:37] <SeaPhor> harrisony, that one is not detecting it or the device is not powered on
[03:37] <abbazabba> i'm adding it to this system
[03:38] <Hodapp> unitheory: Right now it is using a default one, in addition to what the Nvidia drivers added.
[03:38] <guest> SuperSenior: my impression from reading the page is that they seem to say that grub won't work in my situation, won't recognize anything
[03:38] <ircnickiuse> dajhorn, yeah, I know, I got that after I switched to 32bit
[03:39] <harrisony> SeaPhor: yeah ive tried all the ports on the laptop
[03:39] <FeasibilityStudy> ircnickiuse you dont have to run a 32 bit OS to use 32 bit apps.  Most Linux distros have multilib
[03:39] <ircnickiuse> the problem is, ALSA was setup FINE - the 'device' went MIA after reboot - and I don't know what specifies the device, the snd_dummy module is loaded, and set to default using asoundconf
[03:39] <unitheory> Hodapp, what mouse do you have?
[03:39] <ircnickiuse> FeasibilityStudy, ok, my problem is no just setting up alsa to use snd_dummy, let me get that working, and I will promise I will tear down my working system and go back to 64bit
[03:40] <SuperSenior> guest: well we need a boot loader lol.
[03:40] <abbazabba> how would i go about reformatting a second hard drive i'm about to add to my system?
[03:40] <jorgerosa> cya
[03:40] <SuperSenior> guest: windows had a boot loader before we installed grub over it
[03:40] <FeasibilityStudy> abbazabba either Gparted or fdisk
[03:40] <ircnickiuse> so, when it says the volume controller has no device - how can I fix that?
[03:41] <guest> SuperSenior: any idea how to get it back?  :)
[03:41] <ircnickiuse> in the sound prefs, I get dummy device as an option for everything, but in mixer, the whole selector is greyed out
[03:41] <FeasibilityStudy> abbazabba the disk cant be mounted, so the easiest way is jus to use a LiveCD
[03:41] <GuyFromHell> So i just got my EeePC today, fired up download for UNR and installed it and hit a monstrous brick wall. neither my ethernet nor wireless work
[03:41] <SeaPhor> harrisony, and other devices work in those ports? are you sure the one-touch is powered on?
[03:41] <abbazabba> FeasibilityStudy: if i fire up my computer after installing the second one (even though it has 2 o.s.'s on it) would i have a problem.. or would grub just give me multiple?
[03:41] <cabrey> GuyFromHell, what model?
[03:41] <GuyFromHell> Attansic ethernet and Atheros AR9285 Wireless. I'm told the latter can be done with a kernel upgrade
[03:41] <GuyFromHell> 1008HA
[03:41] <FeasibilityStudy> abbazabba you would need to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[03:42] <Hodapp> unitheory: it's a Logitech Trackman Wheel. I seriously doubt that is of any relevance.
[03:42] <FeasibilityStudy> abbazabba what 2nd OS are u going to add
[03:42] <GuyFromHell> cabrey^
[03:42] <fuxartige33> ha, nice one! http://sunoano.name/ws/public_xhtml/debian_notes_cheat_sheets.html ;)
[03:42] <fuxartige33> debian centric but ...
[03:42] <cabrey> GuyFromHell, ahh yes that required a kernel module to be compiled, helped somebody through that before
[03:42] <GuyFromHell> cabrey, i'm fine with a little kernel hacking but it's the attansic i'm worried about, i don't see that anywhere
[03:43] <abbazabba> FeasibilityStudy: since you responded i'm gonna go a bit deeper.. i have a 60 gig now and i'm adding a 20 gig.. this one has 8.04 on it and the new one has 9 and xp home.. what i want to do is, get that running, clean it up, put my music and movies onto that one, install 9 onto the 60 gig.. and maybe transfer the music back and keep the 20 for the movies.
[03:43] <cabrey> GuyFromHell, the what?
[03:43] <SuperSenior> guest: the Windows Installation Disk should be able to fix the boot loader
[03:43] <GuyFromHell> cabrey, the ethernet card
[03:43] <heatmzzr> <--- newbie.. How do I open or execute a tar.bz2 file correctly
[03:43] <Pici> fuxartige33: Please don't advertise in this channel.
[03:43] <GuyFromHell> as in the hard line version
[03:43] <SuperSenior> guest: right when it starts it shoudl give a recovery option
[03:43] <harrisony> SeaPhor: problem solved, the maxtor needed 2 usb ports
[03:43] <cabrey> GuyFromHell, oh that, hold on i have a guide up for the 1008ha
[03:43] <unitheory> Hodapp, try sudo aptitude remove bluez-utils
[03:43] <Z3ro3X> I don't know what version (1.7 or 1.71) of Transmission it is but after upgrading I've been having severe connection problems with my Linksys router.  I can be connected to the router for hours on in but when I run Transmission the connection between my computer and the router dies and the router takes a good while before it's working normal again.
[03:43] <GuyFromHell> cabrey, because getting kernel sources etc. would be a PitA without internet of any form
[03:44] <SeaPhor> harrisony, good deal, cool
[03:44] <FeasibilityStudy> abbazabba so you want to keep ubuntu on 60 or do you want to move it to 20?
[03:44] <bkt5401> sO
[03:44] <fuxartige33> Pici: I just thought I share ... sorry if that ain't ok
[03:44] <cabrey> GuyFromHell, do you have a usb drive handy?
[03:44] <heatmzzr> <--- newbie.. How do I open or execute a tar.bz2 file correctly??
[03:44] <bkt5401> Upgrade completed... with 35 minutes remaining. "There were some errors"
[03:44] <cabrey> heatmzzr, tar xjvf file.tar.bz2
[03:44] <SuperSenior> heatmzzr: from a command line?
[03:44] <bkt5401> the help icon has disappeared
[03:45] <FeasibilityStudy> heatmzzr you can just click on the tar file and use Ark or whatever it's called.
[03:45] <bkt5401> network manager is gone (although networking is clearly still up)
[03:45] <guest> SuperSenior: Ok, I'll try that.  If it doesn't work though, I'm going to have to cash in since I have to wake up in 5 hours.  Thanks again for all your help!
[03:45] <GuyFromHell> cabrey, somewhere...
[03:45] <bkt5401> i don't know if this is bootable or not
[03:45] <SuperSenior> bkt5401 did you get ubuntu upgraded?
[03:45] <abbazabba> FeasibilityStudy: i want to just have one o.s. running and use all 80 gigs.. i don't mind having to have the 2nd hd mounted
[03:45] <cabrey> GuyFromHell, well you are going to need it ;)
[03:45] <SuperSenior> guest: ok lol, i hope you get it figured out
[03:45] <bkt5401> SuperSenior, if you read a few the things i was just explaining about. "no"
[03:45] <abbazabba> FeasibilityStudy: i'm just wondering if it's gonna be as easy as i hope it would be.. or if i should anticipate any problems occuring
[03:45] <Z3ro3X> Either it's the new DHT they implemented or they changed something in upnp.  I just now turned both off so I'll have to wait and see if there are any improvements.
[03:45] <bkt5401> SuperSenior, outrageous failure
[03:45] <GuyFromHell> cabrey, got an idea for the ethernet card?
[03:45] <SuperSenior> bkt5401: sorry i was in a different room
[03:46] <SuperSenior> bkt5401 lets see if we can help
[03:46] <Hodapp> unitheory: That didn't do anything.
[03:46] <cabrey> GuyFromHell, yes there is a driver available
[03:46] <texasjack> :( God damn'....
[03:46] <FeasibilityStudy> abbazabba well just hook the 20 gig up into your machine.  Stick in a live CD and partition it.  You could probably just hook the drive up and boot into Ubuntu and format it from there.  But you will have to make sure the drive is not mounted
[03:46] <GuyFromHell> cabrey, oh goodie, .deb maybe?
[03:46] <Hodapp> unitheory: is there any way I can just dump raw mouse events and see if anything is even getting through?
[03:46] <bkt5401> SuperSenior, not a problem. I think what i need to do is kill 8.04 completely and install 9.04 from scratch. the upgrade manager isn't giong to make it
[03:46] <unitheory> Hodapp, xev
[03:46] <cabrey> GuyFromHell, of course not, that would make things too easy
[03:46] <Randall> does anyone know how to get jaunty to recognize my music files on my sansa fuze and play them perhaps?
[03:46] <texasjack> How can I be free from gdm?
[03:46] <ftw_> !gdm
[03:47] <abbazabba> FeasibilityStudy: ok gotcha.. tomorrow is when the shit will hit the fan haha
[03:47] <abbazabba> thanks for the help
[03:47] <GuyFromHell> cabrey, true, can't have that happening...
[03:47] <SuperSenior> bkt5401: that might be the only solution lol
[03:47] <SeaPhor> bkt5401, yeah, i never upgrade, always fresh install
[03:47] <FeasibilityStudy> abbazabba format it to ext4..
[03:47] <abbazabba> FeasibilityStudy: what do you mean
[03:47] <cabrey> GuyFromHell, if you have another computer with the same exact kernel version, you can use that to compile the driver
[03:47] <losher> texasjack: what do you want to run instead of gdm?
[03:47] <abbazabba> FeasibilityStudy: like how this hard drive is ext 1 and 2
[03:47] <texasjack> losher, my shell (bash)!
[03:47] <FeasibilityStudy> abbbazabba I suggest you download the Gparted LiveCD.  It is a liveCD used just for partitioning.  It's handy because you dont have to worry about unmounting the drive, etc. like you have to do in Ubuntu
[03:48] <abbazabba> FeasibilityStudy: no cds =/
[03:48] <Hodapp> unitheory: scrolling produces no events in that; could I expect events from the scroll wheel even if something is misconfigured?
[03:48] <losher> texasjack: no gui at all? Ever?
[03:48] <FeasibilityStudy> abbazabba wait did you say youre on 8.04?  If so, then format it to EXT3
[03:48] <GuyFromHell> cabrey, unfortunately pretty much all my computers are amd64 at this point...
[03:48] <abbazabba> FeasibilityStudy: ok
[03:48] <unitheory> Hodapp, you must position the cursor over the little box, and then scroll. see if that does anything
[03:49] <Hodapp> unitheory: I did that. Other buttons produced events.
[03:49] <cabrey> GuyFromHell, ouch, seriously? nothing?
[03:49] <Randall> does anyone know how to get jaunty to recognize my music files(mp3) on my sansa fuze and play them perhaps?
[03:49] <texasjack> losher, not so radical... But for a few days I want to use 100% shell.  And get rid of the gdm-stuff...
[03:49] <ircnickiuse> ubuntu lists on netbook hp mini as 'working fine' with a workaround vaguely mentioned... that IT DOESN'T BOOT.... only with your own searching do you find that 'it works after kernel update'.
[03:49] <ircnickiuse> yeah, AWESOME
[03:49] <GuyFromHell> cabrey, (btw yes, i have a flash drive)
[03:49] <FeasibilityStudy> abbazabba just boot into Ubuntu then and unmount the drive and use Ubuntu's Gparted.  You can unmount the drive from terminal "umount /dev/sdx"
[03:49] <bishop> joining
[03:49] <unitheory> Hodapp, yes, you should expect events
[03:49] <losher> texasjack: couldn't be easier. Go to /usr/sbin and mv gdm gdm.orig
[03:50] <losher> texasjack: then go to /usr/bin and mv nautilus nautilus.orig, then reboot
[03:50] <abbazabba> FeasibilityStudy: then what do i do, install 8.04 on there.. move the files over, then install 9 on the 60 gig, bring over the files from the 20 and then install 9 on that?
[03:50] <unitheory> Hodapp, not sure what the problem is then
[03:50] <cabrey> GuyFromHell, this is gonna be really hard. i doubt your amd64 computers will let you d/l 32 bit kernel headers, etc
[03:50] <FeasibilityStudy> abbazabba no you do not have to install Ubuntu to that drive if you are only using it for storage..All it needs is a format with ext3
[03:50] <unitheory> Hodapp, I was looking on http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/ubuntu-help/144187-logitech-dinovo-bluetooth-mouse-kb-combo-w-ubuntu-9-04-a.html
[03:50] <abbazabba> FeasibilityStudy: do i even have to install anything on that one
[03:50] <Hodapp> unitheory: Hm. I think it's the mouse itself. I just plugged it into my friend's Macbook and it's not scrolling there.
[03:50] <abbazabba> FeasibilityStudy: which i get through gparted
[03:50] <abbazabba> ext 3
[03:50] <texasjack> losher, I was used to just configure a variable, I think its SESSION or something like that...
[03:51] <GuyFromHell> cabrey, this one's amd64 on 2.6.28-r5, downstairs amd64 2.6.28-r11, laptop 2.6.29something
[03:51] <Guest99922> Can anyone tell me how to put diferent wallpapers on all fsides of my cube?
[03:51] <texasjack> losher, so, just rename gdm and nautilus?  This is soooo weird....
[03:51] <GuyFromHell> cabrey, that's what chroot is for ;)
[03:51] <GuyFromHell> i'll set one up
[03:52] <FeasibilityStudy> abbazabba yes.  Gparted will format it (its a GUI tool)  I prefer the command line though.  "fdisk /dev/sdx" and then click "d" to delete the partitions on it.  Then click "n" for new and 'p" for primary.  Then type "mke2fs -j /dev/sdx" and youre done
[03:52] <losher> texasjack: once you rename them, the system can't find them, so you get cli. All 100% reversible too...
[03:52] <abbazabba> FeasibilityStudy: is sdx a global term for the 2nd hd or is that what you are runnin
[03:52] <losher> texasjack: there are other methods, but I think this one is easiest
[03:52] <cabrey> GuyFromHell, you have to get the correct kernel headers, build-essential, etc
[03:52] <abbazabba> FeasibilityStudy:  and where do i find gparted
[03:52] <cabrey> GuyFromHell, what kernel version is on the laptop?
[03:52] <cabrey> Eee*
[03:52] <lindzeyn> sd[x] where x = 1..
[03:53] <GuyFromHell> 2.6.28-11 x86
[03:53] <FeasibilityStudy> abbazabba sdx means sda, sdb, etc.. If it is not a SATA drive, then it will be hda, hdb, etc
[03:53] <texasjack> losher, OK. And what can I do with the gdm running at tty7? Kill it?
[03:53] <dispatch> Tj__ : it never did work trying to get the duel boot thing going.  i just decided to install ubuntu and then use virtual box to run my windows
[03:53] <GuyFromHell> (does anyone have that in the channel want to compile it for me? :P)
[03:53] <lindzeyn> i meant a,b,...
[03:53] <cabrey> GuyFromHell, thats a good idea
[03:53] <losher> texasjack: in theory that's enough, but I often find I have to reboot
[03:53] <cabrey> GuyFromHell, except im in a custom kernel right now
[03:53] <GuyFromHell> anyone around with a 2.6.28-11 kernel on x86? i think that's latest jaunty hopefully
[03:53] <cabrey> GuyFromHell, i'll have to reboot into jauntys normal one
[03:54] <abbazabba> FeasibilityStudy: alright this whole time i've been thinking hda was the name of it, i didnt know it was hda hdb... one last question. think i'd have enough ide slots since i have one hd and 2 cd players in the spot?
[03:54] <texasjack> losher, let's try...
[03:54] <GuyFromHell> cabrey, eh? the compile shouldn't be effected by what you're currently running?
[03:54] <paulo> hi can somebody help me get my wireless working
[03:54] <Guest99922> Can anyone tell me how to get a diferent wallpaper on each side of my cube?
[03:54] <losher> texasjack: can't imagine why you want to do this, btw...
[03:54] <cabrey> GuyFromHell, yes it does, it will compile for the currently running kernel
[03:54] <King601> Whoas
[03:54] <King601> I just installed ubuntu'
[03:54] <King601> and its working
[03:54] <King601> :o
[03:54] <burn_> is there a default log location to see why my fancontrol conf isn't being loaded at startup?
[03:54] <Hodapp> Hmm. Upgrading to new Nvidia drivers seems to have fixed the problem with Pidgin crashing X.
[03:55] <King601> without anything on the desktop
[03:55] <unitheory> horray!
[03:55] <King601> :D
[03:55] <matrixblue> Guest99922, doing so would cause you lose the functionality of your desktop
[03:55] <FloodBot1> King601: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:55] <FeasibilityStudy> abbazabba depends on ur mobo.  If your CD drives are in master/slave you might have enough room
[03:55] <ircnickiuse> what a wasted night. where are the sound devices defined?
[03:55] <GuyFromHell> cabrey, assuming we're talking about the same procedure as not ubuntu, it should work from current directory? *shrug* it's probably an ubuntu thing
[03:55] <Guest99922> how
[03:55] <abbazabba> FeasibilityStudy: after re reading it, would i want to make the 20 gig a primary drive?
[03:55] <ircnickiuse> when the mixer says it has no device - where can you go and see an empty list of devices
[03:55] <cabrey> GuyFromHell, i'll be back in a few minutes, rebooting ;) nope its a linux thing
[03:55] <paulo> lspci does not show my broadcom 4311
[03:55] <FeasibilityStudy> abbazabba just make 1 big primary ext3 partition on your extra drive
[03:55] <abbazabba> ok
[03:55] <Guest99922> i want different wallpapers on my desktops
[03:55] <abbazabba> FeasibilityStudy: just didn't want to mess it up haha
[03:56] <abbazabba> FeasibilityStudy: since i'm going to 9 after all of this, ext3 would be fine right
[03:56] <matrixblue> Guest99922, http://forum.compiz-fusion.org/showthread.php?t=4279
[03:56] <FeasibilityStudy> abbazabba and oh yeah, once you get it formatted and ready to go, you will need to add it to /etc/fstab if you want it mounted at boot
[03:56] <abbazabba> FeasibilityStudy: alrighty
[03:56] <ircnickiuse> When running alsamixer from terminal: alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device
[03:56] <FeasibilityStudy> abbazabba if youre going to 9 after this, then I would go ahead and format with ext4.  However, 8.04 probably wont let you
[03:57] <Guest99922> thanks il check that
[03:57] <abbazabba> FeasibilityStudy: if i put it to 3, then install 9 on the first one.. would it be able to read the ext3?
[03:57] <FeasibilityStudy> abbazabba yes i
[03:57] <losher> FeasibilityStudy: frankly, I don't think ext4 is worth the bother...
[03:57] <abbazabba> ohhhhh
[03:57] <cabrey> GuyFromHell, now running on 2.6.28-11-generic :)
[03:58] <abbazabba> losher: why do you say that
[03:58] <abbazabba> FeasibilityStudy: you gonna take that from him haha
[03:58] <FeasibilityStudy> abbazabba 9.04 can read ext3 partitions, not probs there
[03:58] <abbazabba> k cool
[03:58] <FeasibilityStudy> abbazabba yes, because everyone has opinions
[03:58] <Guest99922> :( in windows i could have diferent wallpapers
[03:58] <losher> abbazabba: it's relatively new, and not quite stable, though faster. But in filesystems, stable trumps faster...
[03:58] <abbazabba> FeasibilityStudy: just bustin chops
[03:59] <abbazabba> losher: i might have to agree with you
[03:59] <FeasibilityStudy> losher its stable.  The "instability" everyone talks about has nothing to do with ext4 itself.  Its the fault of app devs
[03:59] <bishop> joining
[03:59] <BotLobsta> is there a better way to get a typo in a UI string fixed than filing a bug?
[03:59] <matrixblue> Guest99922, you can in compiz but like the post said you'll lose your Desktop icons being displayed
[03:59] <cabrey> GuyFromHell, done
[03:59] <abbazabba> BotLobsta: great nick
[03:59] <GuyFromHell> cabrey, sweet, you beat me to it
[04:00] <losher> FeasibilityStudy: amounts to the same thing, in the end. More trouble than it's worth...
[04:00] <unitheory> BotLobsta, fis it yourself?
[04:00] <unitheory> fix
[04:00] <koshari> BotLobsta you could prolly use a hex editor, however that wont fix the upstream bug
[04:00] <jon5001> quick question folks, i have to uninstall ubuntu from a dual boot machine with vista.  I have fixed the MBR so grub wont freak when I boot up and the ubuntu partition is gone, but my question is... i am just about to enter ubuntu from the live cd and use gparted to get rid of the ubuntu partition.  i want to add that space back to the vista partition.  do i have to format it to fat32?
[04:00] <cabrey> GuyFromHell, ok now the issue is delivery, but luckily, i have my own domain
[04:00] <GuyFromHell> i wish i could just download it on the netbook >__>
[04:00] <SuperSenior> unitheory: not very helpful are we haha
[04:00] <BotLobsta> unitheory, i would but I dont know how to submit a patch or anything back
[04:01]  * losher thinks texasjack has been rebooting for a long time. Hope I didn't mess him up...
[04:01] <unitheory> right, well i don't either :\
[04:01] <Joshua_Mayer> Anyone there?
[04:01] <SuperSenior> losher: :o
[04:01] <dayo> how do i make files immutable in ubuntu?
[04:01] <BotLobsta> abbazabba, thanks ive gotten that every once in a while
[04:01] <SuperSenior> unitheory: we dont need to know who *cant* help.. just who can
[04:01] <matrixblue> dayo chmod 000
[04:01] <abbazabba> FeasibilityStudy: i just opened up my comp and theres one ide spot open, i believe it's coming straight from the hd, thatshould be the slave right?
[04:01] <FeasibilityStudy> and ext4 is only unstable if there is a sudden power outage during disk writes, which should not effect anyone but enterprise users
[04:02] <Joshua_Mayer> How big is ubuntu desktop to be?
[04:02] <Joshua_Mayer> 600mb?
[04:02] <abbazabba> losher: if you want to answer that too you can haha
[04:02] <abbazabba> BotLobsta: thank you!
[04:02] <cabrey> GuyFromHell, i use a cacert.org signed certificate so its going to give you errors about ssl
[04:02] <raylu> FeasibilityStudy: er, isn't that what the journal is for?
[04:02] <cabrey> GuyFromHell, https://smallserve.net/atl1e.ko
[04:02] <dayo> matrixblue: i remember something about chattr
[04:02] <FeasibilityStudy> abbazabba no.  If there is one IDE slot, it's not a slave..Just plug ur HD into it..
[04:02] <dajhorn> Joshua_Mayer: The ubuntu-desktop is slightly less than 2GB.   The base system is near 400MB.
[04:02] <FeasibilityStudy> raylu, yes.  That isnt the issue
[04:02] <abbazabba> FeasibilityStudy: nah there is one left on the ribbon.. in total i believe i have 5
[04:02] <matrixblue> dayo, or better chmod 444
[04:03] <dayo> matrixblue: but it's not working. says chattr is not installed, and trying to install won't work, cuz apt can't findi it
[04:03] <losher> FeasibilityStudy: a filesystem that can't withstand a sudden power outage. Boy, I'm sold.....NOT
[04:03] <abbazabba> FeasibilityStudy: 4 being used and one left open
[04:03] <matrixblue> dayo, chmod 444 <filename>
[04:03] <miguel> Hello i need help setting up skype on ubuntu.. thanks
[04:03] <dayo> matrixblue: but root chould change the permissions again
[04:03] <FeasibilityStudy> losher it is because of delayed allocation.  Go read Theodore Ts'os blog posts about it
[04:03] <matrixblue> dayo, root can do anything
[04:03] <dayo> matrixblue: i need something that prevents even root from writing to the file
[04:04] <Joshua_Mayer> I am downloading the Desktop ISO, and it says it is 260mb. Is that right?
[04:04] <cabrey> losher, i havent had any data loss fwiw
[04:04] <matrixblue> dayo, encryption is the only sure protection
[04:04] <raylu> dayo: mount it as ro
[04:04] <ubuntuBoy> hey guys!
[04:04] <SuperSenior> Joshua_Mayer it should be much bigger
[04:04] <Guest53554> Hello i need to set up skype
[04:04] <cabrey> !skype
[04:04] <SuperSenior> Joshua_Mayer about 700 megs
[04:05] <Joshua_Mayer> Firefox keeps stopping the download!
[04:05] <Guest53554> the problem is it tells me "only one software management tool is allowed to run at the same time
[04:05] <ubuntuBoy> does anyone use ia32-apt-get here?
[04:05] <losher> Actually, my main concern is the couple of users on this list who showed up claiming that their ext4 fs spontaneously corrupted itself. Could've been user error of course, but you know what? No-one comes here with that story on ext3....
[04:05] <raylu> Joshua_Mayer: consider bittorrent
[04:05] <matrixblue> raylu, root could mount it as rw
[04:05]  * GuyFromHell stabs syslog. give me more output
[04:05] <raylu> losher: is that ext4dev?
[04:05] <Joshua_Mayer> I completely forgot about that! I am sure that will work! Thanks
[04:06] <cabrey> GuyFromHell, ...?
[04:06] <Teltariat> Stabbing syslog usually leads to less output.
[04:06] <FeasibilityStudy> Ext4 uses a filesystem performance technique called allocate-on-flush, also known as delayed allocation. It consists of delaying block allocation until the data is going to be written to the disk, unlike other file systems, which allocate the necessary blocks before that step. This improves performance and reduces fragmentation by improving block allocation decisions based on the actual file size.
[04:06] <SuperSenior> Joshua_Mayer glad to help!
[04:06] <raylu> matrixblue: i assume he just wants to prevent accidental writes by a program, not a security concern
[04:06] <GuyFromHell> cabrey, it takes the module but the interface is still not showing up
[04:06] <FeasibilityStudy> The problem is that apps arent developed to expect this behavior, so Ts'o had to create a patch
[04:06] <cabrey> GuyFromHell, i assumed you use insmod?
[04:06] <matrixblue> raylu, if that were the case then chmod would be the solution
[04:06] <cabrey> GuyFromHell, look at dmesg
[04:06] <losher> raylu: dunno. If I recall it was a couple of 9.04 stock installers who chose ext4 for their root fs
[04:06] <Joshua_Mayer> Um, if I want ubuntu desktop, which torrent do I need?
[04:06] <GuyFromHell> cabrey, nothing
[04:06] <Joshua_Mayer> ubuntu-9.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent?
[04:07] <raylu> matrixblue: some program might be running as root and chmod-ing/writing
[04:07] <harrisony> Joshua_Mayer: yep
[04:07] <GuyFromHell> cabrey, modprobe, but same thing
[04:07] <matrixblue> raylu, point taken
[04:07] <cabrey> GuyFromHell, modprobe shouldn't work, the module is not 'installed'
[04:07] <raylu> matrixblue: but if it's a security concern, then you're correct
[04:07] <GuyFromHell> cabrey, i made it so :P
[04:07] <Z3ro3X> Has any one here (using nvidia graphics) upgraded to the new 2.6.30 kernel?
[04:08] <cabrey> GuyFromHell, rmmod to remove it, then use sudo insmod to see if it makes a difference
[04:08] <GuyFromHell> oh interesting, i think modprobe was finding a diff version or something
[04:08] <cabrey> GuyFromHell, you never know...
[04:08] <Joshua_Mayer> I have downloaded Ubuntu 5 times, and it stuffs up everytime! Thanks god for bittorrent
[04:08] <GuyFromHell> cabrey, it did...
[04:08] <cabrey> GuyFromHell, does that mean it works?
[04:08] <GuyFromHell> cabrey, yea, i put the module in the wrong place :P
[04:08] <glicks> anyone running ubuntu on a netbook?
[04:08] <GuyFromHell> cabrey, apparently ubuntu's kernel has the module, it's just broken
[04:09] <cabrey> GuyFromHell, did you use modprobe or insmod then?
[04:09] <chuck> Is it possible to install a version of a package from a newer version of ubuntu?
[04:09] <BotLobsta> Z3ro3X, im running a 2.6.30 kernel with the nvidia 180.60 module
[04:09] <elizeusouza> Hi
[04:09] <GuyFromHell> cabrey, both. insmod pointed me to the kernel was loading the wrong module, i installed the module properly now
[04:09] <matrixblue> !backports | chuck
[04:10] <elizeusouza> My name is Elizeu Souza from Manaus Amazon B razil
[04:10] <cabrey> GuyFromHell, good, that means we won't have to resort to ugly hacks to get it loaded each boot up :)
[04:10] <Z3ro3X> BotLobsta, I tried the packages from "http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v2.6.30/".  How did you upgrade?
[04:10] <losher> FeasibilityStudy: So I rest my case: Ext4 is currently more trouble than its worth, especially for beginners....
[04:10] <bishop> hi eli
[04:10] <cabrey> GuyFromHell, hopefully this means you can surf the interwebs now on the eee?
[04:10] <Guest70712> How do i add a repository
[04:10] <BotLobsta> Z3ro3X, im running karmic
[04:10] <GuyFromHell> cabrey, yea. i can handle the wireless and such from here
[04:10] <GuyFromHell> thanks for the compile :)
[04:10] <bishop> make that hi eliz
[04:10] <cabrey> GuyFromHell, http://sachachua.com/wp/2009/06/09/asus-eee-1008ha-and-ubuntu-keep-a-usb-drive-handy/comment-page-1/
[04:10] <cabrey> GuyFromHell, nice article
[04:10] <FeasibilityStudy> losher a patch has been released already that pretty much fixes the issue.  Ubuntu has backported it to current kernels.  It goes mainline in 2.6.30
[04:11] <elizeusouza> I had some problemsn...........in fact!!! I'm sofering lot to instal EMC2 in my Ubuntu 9.4
[04:11] <elizeusouza> someboy in this room help me?
[04:11] <FeasibilityStudy> losher but I await btrfs :)
[04:11] <Guest70712> cabrey can you help me real quick please
[04:11] <cabrey> Guest70712, what do you need?
[04:11] <glicks> no one running ubuntu on a netbook? wow
[04:11] <matrixblue> !ask | elizeusouza
[04:11] <elizeusouza> I had some problemsn...........in fact!!! I'm sofering lot to instal EMC2 in my Ubuntu 9.4
[04:11] <losher> FeasibilityStudy: that's good news, but I reserve the right to reserve judgement. But at least Tso is a BTVS fan...
[04:12] <unitheory> glicks, i run xubuntu on an eeepc
[04:12] <GuyFromHell> cabrey, lol it's loading a new kernel >_>
[04:12] <cabrey> !br | elizeusouza
[04:12] <Guest70712> How do i install a repository
[04:12] <chuck> matrixblue: If I'm running intrepid, do I use intrepid-backports?
[04:12] <cabrey> GuyFromHell, O_O
[04:12] <GuyFromHell> oh wait
[04:12] <GuyFromHell> 28-11
[04:12] <glicks> unitheory, which model?
[04:12] <cabrey> whew
[04:12] <GuyFromHell> bah i'm getting my kernel versions confused
[04:12] <unitheory> glicks, 701 surf
[04:12] <elizeusouza> Ok ubottu
[04:12] <elizeusouza> thanks
[04:12] <Z3ro3X> BotLobsta, Normally, the packages I get from that link work fine.  But this latest one doesn't install correctly.  The nvidia graphics are messed up.  Sorry if that's vague but I don't have the technical know how to say my graphics break when installing that new kernel.
[04:13] <dayo> raylu: matrixblue: it was chattr after all. i had renamed it months ago to stop people from re-chattring a file
[04:13] <Guest70712> cabrey, how do i install a repository
[04:13] <glicks> unitheory, how you liking it? im thinkging of getting a netbook, but i wanna wait for the T101h should be comming end of the month or next month
[04:13] <cabrey> Guest70712, what repo specifically?
[04:13] <Guest70712> #
[04:13] <Guest70712> Add the Skype repository*: deb http://download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian/ stable non-free
[04:13] <unitheory> glicks, I love it ;]
[04:13] <BotLobsta> Z3ro3X, does the module build and install correctly when you installed the kernel?
[04:13] <matrixblue> chuck, System > Administration > Software Sources > Updates
[04:13] <glicks> unitheory, you have any idea when the t101h is comming out
[04:14] <cabrey> Guest70712, System > Administration > Software Sources > 3rd Party Software Tab
[04:14] <GuyFromHell> cabrey, beautiful. thanks again, i'm out to fiddle with this in a non-desktop-setting-that-completely-defeats-the-purpose-of-a-netbook
[04:14] <chuck> matrixblue: It's Ubuntu Server
[04:14] <cabrey> GuyFromHell, i hate that interface
[04:14] <unitheory> glicks, no idea. the 701 was one of the first models
[04:14] <bishop> out..
[04:14] <Z3ro3X> BotLobsta, Right now I'm running kernel 2.6.29.4 from this link "http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v2.6.29.4/".  So I'm trying to figure how what's different that causes graphics to break.
[04:14] <GuyFromHell> cabrey, UNR's?
[04:14] <Guest70712> ok and then i add exactly what part of that
[04:14] <cabrey> GuyFromHell, yes.
[04:14] <GuyFromHell> cabrey, i'm kind of a fan personally, but i've only used it for maybe 15 minutes so far
[04:14] <cabrey> Guest70199, Add... copy that line in
[04:14] <glicks> unitheory, yeah im thinking of taking a drive to bestbuy to check them out
[04:15] <glicks> im seling my laptop
[04:15] <cabrey> GuyFromHell, no compiz support, which i want specifically for the compositing window manager part
[04:15] <elizeusouza> i can't up date or Instal EMC2 by synaptic or per terminal!!
[04:15] <anom01y> !itouch
[04:15] <BotLobsta> Z3ro3X, have you tried checking you Xorg log in /var/log/Xorg.0.log and seeing if there are any errors reported there?
[04:15] <matrixblue> chuck,  open /etc/apt/sources.list and uncomment the like with backports
[04:15] <matrixblue> chuck, use your fav text editor
[04:15] <elizeusouza> I'm using ubuntu 9.4 version
[04:15] <GuyFromHell> cabrey, i'm going to fiddle with it a bit more before i decide if i should nuke it for like wmii or something
[04:15] <cabrey> GuyFromHell, but i installed UNR then switched to normal desktop because it felt faster than normal ubuntu, but who knows, it was probably all in my head ;)
[04:15] <anom01y> how can I get an iTouch to work in ubuntu ? when I plug it in xubuntu doesnt show it in the "places", and I don't know how to mount it
[04:15] <FeasibilityStudy> elizeusouza because the packaghe is traveling faster than light
[04:15] <Z3ro3X> BotLobsta, if you goto this link "https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-common/+bug/384639"  you'll see a comment I posted with info on the shell output from the attempted install.
[04:16] <beinghuman> okay so I did a bit of search and it took me here
[04:16] <beinghuman> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-96/+bug/251107
[04:16] <chuck> How do I upgrade from Ubuntu Server Intrepid to Jaunty?
[04:16] <beinghuman> that's why nvidia-glx-71 isn't working
[04:16] <beinghuman> however, this is old
[04:16] <beinghuman> and the beta drivers are out and the package manager should have replaced them by now
[04:16] <cabrey> anom01y, not supported here, you have to jailbreak it and even then its support is flaky
[04:16] <elizeusouza> ????????????????
[04:16] <unitheory> glicks, why's that?
[04:16] <matrixblue> anom01y, iTouch doesn't enable use as a hard disk
[04:16] <beinghuman> but it's still not working for me
[04:16] <Guest70712> cabrey, it tells me an error occurred
[04:16] <Guest93580> Can someone tell me the main difference between Ubuntu and openSUSE?
[04:16] <cabrey> Guest70712, tell me exactly what you pasted
[04:16] <losher> !upgrade | chuck
[04:16] <cabrey> Guest93580, not here
[04:16] <Guest70712> : deb http://download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian/ stable non-free
[04:17] <FeasibilityStudy> Ubuntu = Gnome, Suse = KDE
[04:17] <chuck> losher: I already checked that, doesn't have any server instructions
[04:17] <Guest70712> cabrey, deb http://download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian/ stable non-free
[04:17] <Guest93580> Why would you use openSUSE and why would you use Ubuntu?
[04:17] <cabrey> FeasibilityStudy, it has a gnome version too
[04:17] <texasjack> losher, it works.  After a 'dpkg-reconfigure console-setup' the fonts are OK and I'm at terminal. Great...
[04:17] <FeasibilityStudy> Ubuntu = Canonical, Suse = Novell
[04:17] <grey-> howdy. :)
[04:17] <anom01y> cabrey, does itunes work using wine ?
[04:17] <cabrey> Guest70712, what was the error then?
[04:17] <elizeusouza> so............I tried out update by synaptic choosing de 8.04 cd but...........no sucess!!
[04:17] <matrixblue> Guest93580, in addition Ubuntu focuses more on desktop users while OpenSUSE is more enterprise focuses
[04:17] <losher> texasjack: you were gone a long time. I thought maybe I'd killed you....
[04:17] <grey-> what's the ubuntu equivalent to something like /etc/mailer.conf where I specify which MTA is being used?
[04:17] <grey-> (or is there?)
[04:17] <cabrey> anom01y, i think itunes 7 worked kinda with wine, but no idea on the ipod support
[04:18] <cabrey> !appdb | anom01y
[04:18] <Z3ro3X> BotLobsta, I have since removed the new kernel and booted into the working one.  Would that log file change after reverting?
[04:18] <unitheory> anom01y, there are plenty of programs native to linux that you can use. just search google
[04:18] <usser> grey-, update-alternatives probably
[04:18] <GuyFromHell> cabrey, the question for me really is not "should i nuke the UNR interface" as much as "should i nuke ubuntu". i meant it to be a stopping point before i decide for gentoo or not :P
[04:18] <grey-> usser: what's the path to that?
[04:18] <usser> grey-, man update-alternatives
[04:18] <matrixblue> chuck, sudo apt-get upgrade -d
[04:18] <Guest70712> cabrey, it says E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg--configure-a' to correct the problem...
[04:18] <Guest93580> Does Ubuntu have better implementation of Destkop "feature" then openSUSE?
[04:18] <chuck> matrixblue: what?
[04:18] <texasjack> losher, I take so long just to discover how to change the resolution and the fonts... Now are all right.  Thank you.
[04:18] <chuck> No, I want to upgrade from intrepid to jaunty
[04:18] <cabrey> GuyFromHell, you like wasting your time i see :P
[04:19] <cabrey> !ot | Guest93580
[04:19] <losher> texasjack: remind me, why did you want to get rid of your gui?
[04:19] <GuyFromHell> cabrey, oh yea, all the time. with 4 computers compiles don't take too long :P
[04:19] <matrixblue> chuck, sorry sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:19] <elizeusouza> some people here in this room like use CNC machines?
[04:19] <anom01y> unitheory, but I can't even mount the iTouch (or see it), so would these programs still work ?
[04:19] <chuck> matrixblue: Still no :P
[04:19] <cabrey> Guest70712, ok we can do this through the command line then
[04:19] <BotLobsta> Z3ro3X, yes it changes every time you restart your X server.  However the previous log is moved to /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old so it might be there if the last time you started your machine it was with the bad kernel
[04:19] <Z3ro3X> BotLobsta, I have no idea what I'm looking for in that log file.  Here's the whole log.  http://pastebin.com/d48a81d44
[04:19] <Guest70712> cabre, ok so how
[04:19] <unitheory> anom01y, I can't say for sure. I dont have one ;] but I believe yes
[04:19] <cabrey> !iphone | anom01y
[04:19] <matrixblue> chuck, check the wiki then
[04:19] <Guest70712> cabrey, so how
[04:19] <cabrey> best thing i can do
[04:20] <texasjack> losher, because it was taking 59% of my RAM (512 MB).... GNOME + some loser widgets + compiz...
[04:20] <cabrey> Guest70712, remove the line you added through that app
[04:20] <jon5001> nevermind y'all.  Gparted is awesome!
[04:20] <randabis> !blackberry
[04:20] <losher> chuck: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/JauntyUpgrades has a couple of lines of 'Network Upgrade for Ubuntu Servers (Recommended)'. Won't that do?
[04:20] <randabis> aww
[04:20] <unitheory> texasjack, i bet a lot of the ram is being used as cache
[04:20] <Z3ro3X> BotLobsta, What I can do is install the new kernel, reboot so it makes a new log.
[04:20] <elizeusouza> bye..............good night is 23:30 over her in Brazil.........I need wake up early tomorrow
[04:21] <elizeusouza> bye
[04:21] <randabis> guess there really aren't any linux resources for blackberry
[04:21] <losher> texasjack: understood. You do know there are lighter weight choices if you still want a gui?
[04:21] <texasjack> losher, now I just need to put some color here (ircII) and the rest is fine... MP3 player, browser, vim :), and mc. =)
[04:21] <Guest70712> cabrey, ok so n ow what
[04:21] <cabrey> Guest70712, open a terminal and make it larger horizontally
[04:22] <texasjack> losher, yes I know, but I want to use like I'd used in good ol' times of my Gentoo...
[04:22] <Guest70712> cabrey, ok
[04:22] <Z3ro3X> BotLobsta, Here is the old log.  http://pastebin.com/d21dfe5e9  If this log doesn't contain info on the new kernel let me know.
[04:22] <texasjack> losher, I used to use (?) fluxbox at GUI... Nothing more....
[04:22] <sacdman> I asked someone here earlier, I think it was fryguy about setting up my xorg.conf file to adjust the refresh rate
[04:22] <cabrey> texasjack, did it actually 'take' your ram?
[04:23] <sacdman> I did look at man xorg.conf but its way over my head
[04:23] <cabrey> or is it just cache
[04:23] <texasjack> cabrey, it who?
[04:23] <losher> texasjack: yeah, I use fvwm on its own. Sounds like you know there are Ubuntu releases for small machines, and other distros too. so I don't need to say more
[04:23] <BotLobsta> Z3ro3X, thats still with the 2.6.29 kernel
[04:23] <cabrey> texasjack, gnome, compiz, etc
[04:23] <cabrey> texasjack, http://www.linuxatemyram.com/ :D
[04:23] <Guest70712> cabrey, now what do i do
[04:23] <texasjack> losher, no, thanks man.  You're initial help was the final help too. =)
[04:23] <Z3ro3X> BotLobsta, I'm installing the new kernel now in shell.  Will this make a new log or do I also need to reboot?
[04:24] <texasjack> cabrey, yep... 59% of 512 MB...
[04:24] <Guiri> I have a complicated question: I've setup denyhosts to email me upon brute force attempts using localhost and 25. Now I think I need to setup postfix. Is there anyway to have it automatically encrypt the email with a GPG key?
[04:24] <cabrey> Guest70712, type sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:24] <cabrey> Guiri, sounds like a postfix specific question
[04:25] <losher> cabrey: cool web page...
[04:25] <sacdman> any help here for my xorg.conf file?
[04:25] <Guiri> cabrey: Is postfix the most lightweight email daemon out there?
[04:25] <BotLobsta> Z3ro3X, if the install fails then you wont be able to boot into that kernel.  the problem isnt really with your nvidia driver but with the fact that the install doesnt succeed
[04:25] <Cry__Baby> anyone been able to get Ekiga to install iLBC codec?
[04:25] <cabrey> Guiri, no idea, not a mail guru, try #postfix btw
[04:25] <sacdman> need help for xorg.conf refresh rate
[04:26] <Guest70712> cabrey, got it now what
[04:26] <Z3ro3X> BotLobsta, But it'll make a log file and if I reboot again and pick the old kernel on the second reboot I'll get back on.  It'll make a new log file but the old log file will have the new kernel.  As long as I don't reboot more then twice I should be good.
[04:26] <cabrey> Guest70712, at the end of that file (get there with arrow keys or page down) paste that repo line
[04:27] <Dethroned> I just uninstalled Ubuntu because I couldn't get my unallocated hd space to merge with it.   When I reinstall it...what should I do?
[04:27] <Z3ro3X> BotLobsta, I'll be back, system is going down for a double reboot.  Almost sound pornographic. ;-)  Be back soon!
[04:28] <Cry__Baby> anyone been able to get Ekiga to install iLBC codec?
[04:28] <cabrey> !google
[04:28] <Dethroned> I just uninstalled Ubuntu because I couldn't get my unallocated hd space to merge with it.   When I reinstall it...what should I do to make sure that the unallocated space goes to Ubuntu?
[04:29] <Cry__Baby> is there any way at all to get iLBC on Ubuntu?
[04:29] <sacdman> hi... I have pasted my xorg.conf file and was wondering if I could have some help with adjusting my refresh rate
[04:29] <maddhat> anyone know how to format a 1.5tb drive to ext3? i think fdisk is limiting at 1tb..
[04:29] <sacdman> here is the link to pastebin http://paste.ubuntu.com/193930/
[04:31] <Dethroned> anyone have any idea?
[04:31] <Dethroned> I just uninstalled Ubuntu because I couldn't get my unallocated hd space to merge with it.   When I reinstall it...what should I do to make sure that the unallocated space goes to Ubuntu?
[04:31]  * cabrey sighs
[04:31] <Cry__Baby> Dethroned: about what?
[04:31] <Dethroned> see up
[04:31] <Cry__Baby> !repeat > Dethroned
[04:31] <Cry__Baby> Dethroned: sory i dont know
[04:32] <Guest70712> cabrey, end of the file theres nothing in there
[04:32] <Cry__Baby> !repeat > Cry__Baby
[04:32] <Cry__Baby> oops
[04:32] <cabrey> Guest70712, you paste the repo line in there
[04:32] <sacdman> this should be pretty simple for an experience Linux Ubuntu user: adjusting my refresh rate
[04:33] <Guest70712> cabrey, done now
[04:33] <cabrey> Guest70712, hit control-o, enter, control-x
[04:33] <Guest70712> cabrey, done now
[04:34] <ziroday> Dethroned: make sure the unallocated HD space is next to each other, you can rearrange/format before hand with the partition editor (gparted)
[04:34] <Cry__Baby> how can FTP using ubuntu?
[04:34] <Guest70712> cabrey, also what did that do
[04:34] <cabrey> Guest70712, type sudo apt-get update
[04:34] <ziroday> Cry__Baby: you can install an ftp application or use nautilus
[04:35] <Cry__Baby> ziroday, nautilus will login to my ftp site?
[04:35] <cabrey> Cry__Baby, Places > Connect to Server...
[04:35] <Guest70712> cabrey, i get the same message
[04:35] <ziroday> Cry__Baby: yes, go to Places > Connect to Server
[04:35] <Dev_u_pper> :O apt-get??  evil!!! sin!!!  blasphemy!!!!  (actually why not aptitude... i was under the impression it was more safe :P)
[04:35] <ziroday> Dev_u_pper: apt-get and aptitude are the same
[04:35] <jamescarr> this is a dumb question.. but how can I add a dir to my path at the commandline temporarily for this session
[04:35] <cabrey> Dev_u_pper, i use aptitude
[04:35] <cabrey> ziroday, no they're not
[04:35] <ziroday> Dev_u_pper: err correction, similar. Both are equally good
[04:35] <Cry__Baby> ziroday, wow I didnt know that
[04:35] <Flannel> Dev_u_pper: No, they're not the same, but aptitude isn't more safe
[04:36] <Guest70712> cabrey, it says E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[04:36] <Cry__Baby> ziroday, that works like a ftp client?
[04:36] <ziroday> Cry__Baby: yes, or you can install a seperate FTP client from the repo's
[04:36] <cabrey> Guest70712, go ahead and run sudo dpkg --configure -a
[04:36] <losher> Dev_u_pper: this topic comes up regularly, to no clear consensus. Use whichever you prefer...
[04:36] <Cry__Baby> has anyone worked out a way to use iLBC on Ubuntu?
[04:36] <Cry__Baby> ziroday, which one is recommended?
[04:36] <Guest70712> cabrey, now what
[04:36] <cabrey> Cry__Baby, they are both technically ftp clients
[04:37] <cabrey> Guest70712, what was the output?
[04:37] <Cry__Baby> cabrey, cool
[04:37] <Z3ro3X> BotLobsta, Ok, I this log file should be the right one.  http://pastebin.com/d56123f34
[04:37] <Cry__Baby> cabrey: ever used iLBC?
[04:37] <Dev_u_pper> ahah, yeah, i found a site that illustrates an interesting differece for aptitude vs apt-get:
[04:37] <Dev_u_pper> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/aptitude
[04:37] <cabrey> Cry__Baby, nope
[04:37] <Cry__Baby> what codec in Ekiga uses the less bandwidth?
[04:38] <Cry__Baby> they took out iLBC :(
[04:38] <Dev_u_pper> aptitude is supposedly better at dealing with dependencies, and cleanup afterwards
[04:38] <cabrey> Dev_u_pper, this is true
[04:38] <BotLobsta> Z3ro3X, when you installed the kernel, did dkms run and build the nvidia kernel module?
[04:38] <jamescarr> this is a dumb question.. but how can I add a dir to my path at the commandline temporarily for this session
[04:38] <sacdman> looking for help with refresh rate settings in xorg.conf
[04:38] <cabrey> !xorg
[04:39] <Dev_u_pper> can you write those definitions at runtime? :P
[04:39] <sacdman> thanks ubottu.... I will take a look
[04:39] <Z3ro3X> BotLobsta, All I did was run the command "sudo dpkg -i linux*2.6.30*.deb".  How do I check on the dkms thing?
[04:40] <Cry__Baby> !iLBC
[04:40] <Dev_u_pper> !help
[04:40] <losher> jamescarr: I don't find it dumb. In bash, you can do something like:   PATH=/new/dir/here:$PATH
[04:41] <cabrey> i think ubottu can pass the CAPTCHA test
[04:41] <cabrey> so many people think it is real
[04:41] <headrx> hey, im trying to edit my /etc/network/interfaces file, but for whatever reason it wont let me save
[04:41] <cypha> what's the internet browser that works through terminal???
[04:41] <losher> cabrey: sometimes *I* can't pass the captcha. And I have friends who I think would fail a Turing test...
[04:41] <jamescarr> losher, thank you
[04:42] <cabrey> Turing test thats what i was thinking of
[04:42] <cabrey> not captcha
[04:42] <Dev_u_pper> lol
[04:42] <cabrey> cypha, elinks
[04:42] <cypha> is that the best in YOUR opinion?
[04:42] <BotLobsta> Z3ro3X, try and run the command "dkms build -m nvidia -v 180.44 -k 2.6.30-020630-generic"
[04:42] <unko> does anyone know if zunes work with ubuntu 9.04?
[04:42] <CaptainMorgan> can someone point me to where or why ubuntu needs to be rebooted on certain updates? perhaps you can briefly explain why a reboot is necessary... in short, one of the vast amount of reasons I moved to Linux was to avoid the Windows-like rebooting so often required... primarily, I'd like to keep my system running for maximum time possible...
[04:42] <cabrey> cypha, NO IT ISNT
[04:42] <Guest70712> cabrey, what do you mean
[04:42] <cabrey> sorry little agitated
[04:43] <cypha> cabrey: then what is?
[04:43] <cabrey> Guest70712, what do i mean what?
[04:43] <Dev_u_pper> :O !! the factoid on aiglx will be out of date soon!!! :O
[04:43] <Dev_u_pper> !aiglx
[04:43] <cabrey> cypha, i wouldnt use text based browsers :)
[04:43] <Guest70712> cabrey, what is the output
[04:43] <Z3ro3X> BotLobsta, Here's the shell output when I installed the kernel.  http://pastebin.com/d6749d805
[04:43] <cowgarden> hi, any slideshow creator that can blend more than 2 images? (I need to begnin to blend the 3rd image when the 2nd is not yet fully faded in)
[04:43] <Z3ro3X> BotLobsta, It mentions dkms at the bottom.  I don't know what that is.
[04:43] <Dev_u_pper> radeon r200-r500 is being dropped in 2.6.29  = no aiglx for those :P
[04:43] <cowgarden> ?
[04:43] <cabrey> Guest70712, after you run that command, what is printed in the terminal
[04:44] <cypha> cabrey, if we were to pick a text based one, would that be the best choice?
[04:44] <headrx> Anyone :  im trying to edit my /etc/network/interfaces file, but nano wont let me save it.. permission denied
[04:44] <cypha> in your opinion
[04:44] <headrx> any ideas?
[04:44] <Rob235> yo
[04:44] <bypass> no how to speed up transmition torrent client
[04:44] <cabrey> Dev_u_pper, yea and ati dropped support for their own cards like 2 years after they released them
[04:44] <elysianfields> Hello! Does anyone here know how to write in Cyrillic in Ubuntu? I've read the countless forum threads, but there doesn't seem to be a definitive answer.
[04:44] <cowgarden> headrx, start nano as sudo
[04:44] <cabrey> never buying from ati, ever
[04:44] <CaptainMorgan> headrx, sudo?
[04:44] <Dev_u_pper> cabrey: touche :)
[04:44] <headrx> when i sudo , it doesnt even open
[04:44] <cabrey> cypha, best featureset, so yes
[04:44] <Dev_u_pper> !sudo
[04:44] <Dev_u_pper> :D
[04:44] <Rob235> is there a good program that searches the internet for ID3 tags for mp3s and after it sets them you can rename them based on the tags?
[04:45] <cowgarden> headrx, same command and with sudo it does NOT work? thats very strange
[04:45] <maddhat> anyone know how to format a 1.5tb drive to ext3? i think fdisk is limiting at 1tb..
[04:45] <Guest70712> cabrey, can i post it here its like 5 lines
[04:45] <cabrey> !gparted
[04:45] <CaptainMorgan> headrx, is it possible you're not in the sudoer's file?
[04:45] <koshari> ati r200 support was pathetic at best anyrate
[04:45] <cabrey> !pastebin | Guest70712
[04:45] <headrx> ok
[04:45] <headrx> i must be dense
[04:45] <Dev_u_pper> headrx: make sure that you typed the full command and path properly:      sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:45] <headrx> it didnt work first time.. now it does
[04:45] <headrx> weird
[04:45] <losher> CaptainMorgan: Try 8.04 LTS. Very stable. Fewer updates, thus fewer reboots. Not all updates are required anyway. Probably only security-related ones are mandatory....
[04:45] <Z3ro3X> BotLobsta, http://pastebin.com/d5cca8bc9
[04:45] <BotLobsta> Z3ro3X, its just a helper program that makes changing kernel versions easier
[04:46] <xtknight> i have a question...if certain modules are blacklisted, why are they built in the first place?
[04:46] <CaptainMorgan> losher, 8.04 -- wouldn't have it any other way a the moment :)
[04:46] <oenone> yo
[04:46] <oenone> !help
[04:46] <CaptainMorgan> losher, security-updates that are mandatory tend to require reboot?
[04:46] <cabrey> no
[04:46] <CaptainMorgan> losher, interesting... thank you for your intput
[04:46] <jamescarr> any idea how I could get my monitor output to work on my laptop?
[04:46] <Guest70712> cabrey, http://paste.ubuntu.com/193936/
[04:46] <cabrey> CaptainMorgan, usually updates on ubuntu or linux in general don't require a reboot
[04:47] <BotLobsta> Z3ro3X, and whats in /var/lib/dkms/nvidia/180.44/build/make.log
[04:47] <koshari> cabrey kernel updates mainly do
[04:47] <cabrey> ^
[04:47] <CaptainMorgan> cabrey, aye, kernel updates
[04:47] <Z3ro3X> BotLobsta, http://pastebin.com/d6c338220
[04:48] <Dev_u_pper> CaptainMorgan: most linux services that get updated automatically restart their associated services, at the request of the package manager.  Kernel Updates themselves that cannot be reloaded (i.e. non-modules) will require a restart
[04:48] <cabrey> Guest70712, looks good, you must've had an issue with java or something. now run sudo apt-get update again
[04:48] <losher> CaptainMorgan: I don't think that's necessarily true or what I said. What I meant was that security updates should not be ignored lightly, unlike other kinds of update which are often uneccessary...
[04:48] <iluminator101> how do i add my self to sudoers i didnt setup root account?
[04:48] <cabrey> iluminator101, you're already in the sudoers file by default
[04:48] <oenone> can i ask for help here ?
[04:48] <xtknight> iluminator101, add yourself to the admin group from your primary sudo account
[04:48] <cabrey> iluminator101, and root account is usually disabled
[04:48] <cabrey> !ask | oenone
[04:48] <deeperDATA> need help, my ubuntu 9.04/gnome does not detect my nikon d60 when I attach it but other computers will
[04:49] <oenone> how can i make my usb headset work in ubuntu 9.04
[04:49] <Cry__Baby> what codec in Ekiga uses the less bandwidth?
[04:49] <oenone> my usb headset is a4tech hd-800 usb headset
[04:49] <cypha> can i get a general consensus? Elinks or Lynx??
[04:49] <joekarl> lynx
[04:49] <Flannel> !poll | cypha
[04:49] <cabrey> elinks
[04:49] <BotLobsta> Z3ro3X, have you tried upgrading to the 180.60 nvidia version?
[04:49] <oenone> i am using ubuntu 9.04 64bit
[04:49] <Flannel> iluminator101: Did you break your current sudo abilities? or what?
[04:50] <cypha> flannel, i understand how a poll works, thanks
[04:50] <CaptainMorgan> Dev_u_pper, sure... if you've updated recently, and consistently, within the past say... month, would you say kernel updates were published often? I think I saw two within a span of 30 days recently... could be wrong
[04:50] <Guest70712> cabrey, it says done, so now what
[04:50] <cypha> thanks joekarl
[04:50]  * cabrey facepalms
[04:50] <joekarl> no prob
[04:50] <cabrey> Guest70712, no errors? sudo apt-get install skype
[04:50] <Flannel> cypha: Right.  This channel is not for them, but #ubuntu-bots has such a feature.
[04:51] <deeperDATA> why would ubuntu not automatically detect a digital camera connected with by USB?
[04:51] <headrx> anyone: after sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart  my server is just sitting there.. any ideas? it says reconfiguring network services... and has been sitting there for the better part of 5 minutes
[04:51] <Z3ro3X> BotLobsta, No, that hadn't even occurred to me.  I just checked synaptic, it shows the latest as 180.44.
[04:52] <xtknight> headrx, im not sure.. the same thing happens to me with gdm restart sometimes.  it might be a timeout issue ... did you try it again?
[04:52] <losher> headrx: it's a bad sign. Why were you restarting your network anyway?
[04:52] <xtknight> (or some kind of race condition)
[04:52] <darlek> deeperDATA, usually there's no problem, but you might have to remove it and try mounting it again.  You should be able to see ubuntu seeing the device from dmesg
[04:52] <headrx> working on installing LAMP
[04:52] <lexxy> hey people
[04:52] <lexxy> how are yall?
[04:53] <Geoffrey2> if you're looking for an app to run desklets/widgets/etc in Ubuntu, is gDesklets probably your best bet?
[04:53] <deeperDATA> darlek: thanks, what is dmesg?
[04:53] <oenone> can i use my usb headset on ubuntu ?
[04:53] <CaptainMorgan> oenone, have you tried?
[04:53] <Guest70712> cabrey, no but it says it cant fid that package
[04:53] <oenone> tried what ?
[04:53] <linuxguy2009> Can anyone say if there is any app for Ubuntu or a web site that allows you to search for podcasts that are registered in iTunes without needing iTunes?
[04:53] <xtknight> lexxy, not bad, you have a question about ubuntu?
[04:53] <kieran>  #merb
[04:53] <BotLobsta> Z3ro3X, the 180.60 version isnt in jaunty but you can get the packages here http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/restricted/n/nvidia-graphics-drivers-180/
[04:54] <lexxy> yeah
[04:54] <darlek> deeperDATA, dmesg is a place ...where messages are sent to ubuntu about devices.  Open a terminal and type dmesg, you'll see a bunch of stuff from when the computer was turned on
[04:54] <Dev_u_pper> Dev_u_pper: it can depend on the severity of the kernel updates that come out.  Usually I see about 2 & 1/2 per month, but if there are any important exploits that get patched, you can depend on the odd important one
[04:54] <joekarl> any news yet on if karmic is gonna have configurable notifications?
[04:54] <Guest70712> cabrey, i think i should do the first command you told me and add the source again, what was it
[04:54] <darlek> !dmesg
[04:54] <xtknight> joekarl, like libnotify?
 it can depend on the severity of the kernel updates that come out.  Usually I see about 2 & 1/2 per month, but if there are any important exploits that get patched, you can depend on the odd important one
[04:54] <joekarl> yeah, but the new notification stuff
[04:54] <Dev_u_pper> lol wow i just reply'd myself :p
[04:54] <deeperDATA> darlek: interesting.... I'll give it a try, brb
[04:54] <xtknight> no idea
[04:54] <lexxy> I downloaded the Jaunty  distro but I keep havin trouble trying to use my wireless card
[04:54] <oenone> @captain morgan? tried what sir ?
[04:54] <joekarl> still haven't tried messing with it yet
[04:54] <xtknight> joekarl, im running it in a VM now ill let you know if i see anything
[04:54] <lexxy> its a netgear WNDA3100
[04:55] <CaptainMorgan> oenone, your question was if you can use it, --- have you tried using it??
[04:55] <oenone> yup
[04:55] <joekarl> there was something in jaunty to change the location, but that sucked and went away
[04:55] <CaptainMorgan> Dev_u_pper, thank you for the input ;)
[04:55] <myself> dev_u_pper
[04:55] <myself> thank you :)
[04:55] <oenone> but i cant hear anything
[04:55] <lexxy> I was wondering if u have any suggestions as to accessing a driver
[04:55] <joekarl> yeah, I'm running karmic a1 in vbox,
[04:55] <joekarl> really nice
[04:55] <Z3ro3X> BotLobsta, Because the new version isn't in the repos, what's the easiest way to upgrade the driver?  I would prefer a deb package to keep the system relatively clean.
[04:55] <Dev_u_pper> myself: yes, myself?
[04:55] <joekarl> virtual compositing ftw
[04:55] <xtknight> lexxy, not sure, i will have to find out which driver your card uses
[04:55] <myself> u said my name
[04:55] <oenone> how can i make my usb headset work on ubuntu
[04:55] <myself> so i said thank you :)
[04:56] <Dev_u_pper> wow lol i just got that :)
[04:56] <lexxy> aparrently from my quick skim through google it is an atheros but I'm not exactly sure about the chipset
[04:56] <cabrey> Guest70712, aptitude search skype
[04:56] <xtknight> lexxy, it says an atheros chipset (ath5k would suffice maybe?).  is there anything about a module being loaded, and is the interface being detected?  (ifconfig -a shows it?)
[04:57] <BotLobsta> Z3ro3X, just download and install the nvidia-180-kernel-source, nvidia-180-libvdpau, and the nvidia-glx-180 packages of version 180.60 and correct architecture from the link i sent you
[04:57] <cabrey> joekarl, +1
[04:57] <xtknight> joekarl, virtual compositing what's that?
[04:57] <cabrey> 3d support in virtual box
[04:57] <darlek> oenone, if there are specific drivers necessary or special to the device, then you'll need it for ubuntu to use the headset.  However a regular one with mic and buds works for me, but this will depend on your hardware situation
[04:57] <CaptainMorgan> oenone, this might give you can idea: http://forums.overclockers.com.au/showthread.php?t=694010
[04:57] <joekarl> you can run compiz or other compositor in your virtual machine
[04:57] <CaptainMorgan> s/can/an/
[04:57] <xtknight> oh
[04:57] <darlek> oenone, System, Prefs, Sound and try different drivers
[04:57] <xtknight> paravirt is certainly nice as well
[04:57] <lexxy> says a pan0
[04:57] <cabrey> joekarl, well its still a little buggy and doesnt work perfectly
[04:57] <joekarl> yeah, but for the most part its good
[04:57] <joekarl> haven't had tons of problems with it
[04:57] <oenone> thanks captain
[04:58] <oenone> ill look into it
[04:58] <Dev_u_pper> lexxy: use the command:  "sudo lspci"  --> you can use it to get more information on your wireless card :)
[04:58] <cabrey> joekarl, perfect for demonstration
[04:58] <Dev_u_pper> it may tell of your chipset
[04:58] <lexxy> pan0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 3a:63:3e:e3:97:c7
[04:58] <lexxy>           BROADCAST MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
[04:58] <lexxy>           RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
[04:58] <lexxy>           TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
[04:58] <lexxy>           collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
[04:58] <FloodBot1> lexxy: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:58] <xtknight> lexxy, pan0 is actually a vritual device unrelated to any physical interfaces.  do you see anything like wlan or eth
[04:58] <lexxy>           RX bytes:0 (0.0 B)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 B)
[04:58] <koshari> joekarl compiz in a Vm will be crap at best
[04:58] <Guest70712> cabrey, how do i install the source through the ter,minal
[04:58] <cabrey> saw that coming :/
[04:58] <cabrey> Guest70712, now what are you trying to do?
[04:58] <oenone> btw its my first time using ubuntu so i have zero knowledge about it
[04:58] <joekarl> got a pretty decent machine I'm running on with hw virtualization, so doesn't run that bad
[04:58] <lexxy> only eth0 on the Lan I'm using
[04:59] <xtknight> joekarl, i heard that the hardware virt is actually slower
[04:59] <Guest70712> cabrey, install skype but it doesnt find the package
[04:59] <CaptainMorgan> oenone, being your first time, google is your absolute best friend in this specific situation
[04:59] <cabrey> Guest70712, aptitude search skype
[04:59] <BeatlesFan> hey all
[04:59] <Guest70712> cabrey, is that a command because nothing happens
[04:59] <joekarl> well, seems to help
[04:59] <joekarl> maybe not
[04:59] <Dev_u_pper> !hello
[04:59] <Dev_u_pper> :)
[04:59] <oenone> @captain my headset is not bluetooth
[04:59] <Dev_u_pper> man... i love this bot already, it helps me do everything i'm too lazy to do
[04:59] <askvictor> I
[05:00] <oenone> its just a wired usb headset
[05:00] <cabrey> Guest70712, is it really worth it to go through all this is a repo? just get the deb from skype.com
[05:00] <joekarl> gives me a break from work and windows
[05:00] <oenone> brand is a4tech hd-800
[05:00] <cabrey> for*
[05:00] <xtknight> joekarl, what video driver do you use under virtualbox after you enable 3d acceleration?
[05:00] <Guest70712> cabrey, i did it doesnt work
[05:00] <ramael> hello all :)
[05:00] <billybigrigger> cabrey::: if you install a package via a repo, you stay up to date alot easier
[05:00] <xtknight> to get the compositing
[05:00] <darlek> Dev_u_pper, yes I like it too... send it to yourself though with !ubottu | Dev_u_pper then you can !find and !search etc
[05:00] <cabrey> billybigrigger, except that skype hasnt released an update in a few years now
[05:00] <CaptainMorgan> oenone, if you can't find sufficient assistance with google, come back here with the processes you attempted or the ways you approached it, along with errors and non-errors(nothing happened) that occurred... and/or expectations.... sorry, thought that post had a link to a USB headset
[05:01] <ramael> I need help, could some one help me? :)
[05:01] <xtknight> lexxy, ok, if you type "sudo rmmod ath5k && sudo modprobe ath5k && dmesg" do you see anything at the end of the dmesg?
[05:01] <Dev_u_pper> !ubottu  Dev_u_pper
[05:01] <Dev_u_pper> !ubottu | Dev_u_pper
[05:01] <joekarl> just use the virtual box additions stuff that comes with vbox
[05:01] <darlek> !ask | ramael
[05:01] <BeatlesFan> !ask | ramael
[05:01] <cabrey> Guest70712, then this will be no different, it is the same file coming down, except it is more automated
[05:01] <ramael> I cannot use aireplay-ng
[05:01] <joekarl> also gets you mouse integration and shared folders and stuff
[05:01] <Guest70712> cabrey, sorry for all the trouble and thanks, well it is my second day with linux
[05:02] <ramael> when using aerodump-ng, it seems the channel of my eth1 is constantly changing
[05:02] <cabrey> Guest70712, what is the error when trying to install skype?
[05:02] <askvictor> I'm, running an ubuntu 8.04 instance in Virtualbox, df tells me I have about 1gig disk space free, but processes keep telling me there is not enough disk space. The Virtualbox media manager tells me the disk isn't up to it's maximum size, and there is plenty of free space on the host. Any ideas?
[05:02] <xtknight> joekarl, oh, i see, i think fedora automatically installed these for me when i had it in avm
[05:02] <xtknight> a vm
[05:02] <nick125> Hey guys. I have a USB soundcard that doesn't seem to be automagically detected...if I manually modprobe snd_usb_audio, it works...but not until then. Any ideas?
[05:02] <joekarl> you have to reinstall the additions when the kernel gets updated, but no big deal
[05:02] <Guest70712> cabrey, i think it is working now because it is actually instaling dependencies
[05:02] <lexxy> I only get Bus 001 Device 007: ID 0846:9010 NetGear, Inc.
[05:02] <joekarl> yeah, had bad luck with fedora 11 in vbox
[05:03] <cabrey> joekarl, don't get me started :/
[05:03] <Guest70712> cabrey, all this reminds me of my jailbroken ipod touch, all the repos and debs
[05:03] <xtknight> really?  f11 worked great in my vbox
[05:03] <ramael> somehow I think its because my driver is ipw2100
[05:03] <xtknight> not so great on my normal pc, though
[05:03] <Z3ro3X> BotLobsta, They're currently installing.  I removed the new kernel first.  Do I need to reboot before I reinstall the new kernel?
[05:03] <cabrey> Guest70712, that's where the ipod touch/iphone got the idea and software from
[05:03] <BotLobsta> Z3ro3X, no you shouldnt have to do that
[05:03] <CaptainMorgan> oenone, what will help you here is being as detailed as possible... things like headset make, release of Ubuntu you're using, whether you're system recognizes other usb devices you've plugged into the same slot... etc
[05:03] <ramael> so... dead end? or is it a way for me to be able to use aireplay-ng?
[05:03] <CaptainMorgan> oenone, must go for now, but good luck
[05:03] <Guest70712> cabrey, i guess haha its cool
[05:03] <lexxy> where can I get the ath5 to enable  this usb dongle?
[05:03] <joekarl> well, just looking forward to ksm in karmic
[05:04] <oenone> thanks for the help captainmorgan
[05:04] <Z3ro3X> BotLobsta, Looks like the new drivers installed with out any errors.  Now I'm going to try reinstalling the kernel...
[05:04] <cabrey> joekarl, its in jaunty, you just have to enable it
[05:04] <Dev_u_pper> lexxy: System > Administration > Hardware drivers ?
[05:04] <xtknight> lexxy, other people say they used ndiswrapper to get it working. it might be the path of least resistance, even though it's not the preferred method.  otherwise you would probably have to find a patch and recompile your kernel.  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=690699
[05:05] <xtknight> or hmm maybe madwifi supports it
[05:05] <lexxy> the module does not exist on my system
[05:05] <joekarl> had bad luck with that, possibly because of nvidia driver, not sure, too busy to figure it out at the moment
[05:05] <xtknight> lexxy, ath5k?
[05:05] <cabrey> lexxy, run lsmod | pastebinit
[05:05] <cabrey> !pastebinit
[05:05] <ramael> is it in .deb? how can I change to madwifi? :)
[05:05] <Dev_u_pper> lexxy: should be called ath5k, not askk5
[05:06] <Dev_u_pper> lexxy: what's strange is that it doesn't get pulled in automatically
[05:06] <xtknight> well ath5k freezes my system by default perhaps that's why
[05:06] <xtknight> i just don't use my wireless card
[05:07] <Dev_u_pper> lexxy: System > Administration > Hardware drivers    ... have you checked there?
[05:07] <cabrey> i use ath5k for my hardware
[05:07] <xtknight> joekarl, haha the virtual compositing is too cool
[05:08] <xtknight> it's so fast!
[05:08] <joekarl> yeah, a little slow, but freakin sweet
[05:08] <cabrey> hardware acceleration
[05:08] <xtknight> lol.
[05:08] <Z3ro3X> BotLobsta, Looks like the new kernel installed with out any errors in shell this time.  I'm about to reboot.  Hold on to your butt!
[05:08] <cabrey> i never let go
[05:09] <soreau> ramza: Go to aircrack-ng.org and it has all you want to know, including Drivers, Patches and the entire suite. Read.
[05:09] <joekarl> xtknight, makes ubuntu that much more enjoyable compared to windows
[05:10] <lexxy> have a squiz @ http://pastebin.com/f1347c128
[05:10] <cabrey> joekarl, except when you have to recompile modules on each kernel update >:(
[05:10] <xtknight> joekarl, in windows i waste time by cleaning trojans and on ubuntu i waste time by wobbling my windows
[05:10] <joekarl> cabrey, well worth it though
[05:10] <Z3ro3X> BotLobsta, I'm in the new kernel.  Looks like all system go. Thanks big time! :-)
[05:11] <JohnWittle> What does "^" mean when refering to keyboard shortcuts? shift?
[05:11] <xtknight> control
[05:11] <JohnWittle> thank you
[05:11] <lexxy> Dev_u_pper there be no listin
[05:11] <joekarl> xtknight, good call, I spend too much time playing too, should probably be working now
[05:11] <BotLobsta> Z3ro3X, youre welcome
[05:11] <Z3ro3X> BotLobsta, Seems like boot time is also a lot faster.
[05:11] <cabrey> yea don't see ath5k in there, probably the problem
[05:11] <BotLobsta> Z3ro3X, it has been getting faster recently ive noticed too
[05:11] <lexxy> yeah
[05:12] <Dev_u_pper> lexxy: ath5k does not support the chipset in your card Netgear WNDA3100, as per ath5k current supported chipsets: http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/ath5k#supported_chips
[05:12] <Dev_u_pper> lexxy: there may be a better driver for it
[05:12] <cabrey> or that could be the problem
[05:12] <cabrey> lexxy, there is always ndiswrapper & the nice gui in add & remove...
[05:12] <Dev_u_pper> lexxy: (though, this at least explains why the kernel chose not to load the ath5k... mostly because it wouldn't work :P)
[05:12] <cabrey> kernel is smart
[05:12] <lexxy> i came across some articles on the AR9100 ming itodule but I have been unsuccessful at locat
[05:13] <Dev_u_pper> let's see if there is something other than ndiswrapper first
[05:13] <Dev_u_pper> just for "linux reasons" ;>
[05:13] <cabrey> Dev_u_pper, have fun with that
[05:13] <xtknight> ath_pci and friends?
[05:13] <cabrey> that was blacklisted for some reason
[05:13] <xtknight> superseded by ath5k...but not completely
[05:13] <xtknight> ath5k crashes my system while the old driver works... but i dont know about support
[05:13] <lexxy> has anyone come across it?
[05:14] <cabrey> lexxy, what does System > Administration > Hardware Drivers show?
[05:14] <cabrey> aka jockey
[05:14] <xtknight> and your card is wireless N dont you use ath9k
[05:15] <askvictor> I'm, running an ubuntu 8.04 instance in Virtualbox, 'df' in the guest tells me I have about 1gig disk space free, but processes keep telling me there is not enough disk space. The Virtualbox media manager tells me the disk isn't up to it's maximum size, and there is plenty of free space on the host. Any ideas?
[05:15] <Guest70712> cabrey, thanks man it works now
[05:15] <lexxy> cabrey no proprietry drivers availiable on the machine
[05:15] <macvr> hi all... i have a question... when adding repositories to the /etc/apt/sources.list , why are there 2 lines a deb and a deb-src ? is the deb-src line also required?
[05:15] <xtknight> macvr, only if you are a developer.  deb-src allows you to download the complementary source code
[05:15] <joekarl> askvictor, is your disk set to dynamically resize?
[05:15] <askvictor> macvr: not unless you want the source
[05:16] <Chaorain> Can someone help me with Samba? I majorly broke it. First I wnat to uninstall Samba and start from scratch
[05:16] <askvictor> joekarl: yes
[05:16] <Chaorain> I'm trying to get 9.04 to talk to vista
[05:16] <macvr> xtknight: askvictor thanx guys... :)
[05:16] <Guest32073> how can i restore lost session?
[05:16] <joekarl> askvictor, hmm, do you have the vbox additions installed?
[05:17] <edbian> Chaorain: To uninstall samba and all of the associated files run in a terminal "sudo apt-get purge samba"  Would you like me to explain any part of this command??
[05:17] <Dev_u_pper> lexxy: good news!  They are adding support for this card in the upcoming linux kernel.  The sad part is that you will have to wait until the next version of ubuntu until your card is supported by the new kernel.  Until then, use ndiswrapper
[05:17] <Dev_u_pper> !ndiswrapper
[05:17] <Dev_u_pper> >;@
[05:17] <askvictor> joekarl: not sure, running the guest it as a headless machine
[05:17] <headrx> so, im trying to setup lamp and im trying to setup my host name , and bash wont let me run ' sudo echo wildwest.example.com > /etc/hostname /etc/init.d/hostname.sh start '
[05:17] <Z3ro3X> Any idea when I should expect to see a ext4 defrag tool in the kernel?
[05:18] <Chaorain> edbian, ok I'll do that. How do Install a version of samba compatable with vista?
[05:18] <lexxy> aw man...... Ah well,  like they say rome wasn't built in a day
[05:18] <cabrey_> Z3ro3X, it wouldnt be in the kernel
[05:18] <cabrey_> Z3ro3X, defrag tools are separate tools
[05:18] <lexxy> thanx all 4 your help.
[05:18] <Z3ro3X> cabrey, What would it be in?
[05:18] <edbian> Z3ro3X: You do not need defrag tools with ext3 or 4 because they fill the disk with complicated algorithms and are sort of constantly defragging all of the time "on the fly"
[05:18] <lexxy> greatly appreciated.
[05:18] <Dev_u_pper> :)
[05:18] <cabrey_> lexxy, did you get it?
[05:19] <Philster2> hey anyone code in cocoa here?
[05:19] <cabrey_> mac dev huh?
[05:19] <edbian> Chaorain: AFAIK the samba package in the ubuntu repos is compatable with vista.
[05:19] <headrx> anyone : sudo echo wildwest.example.com > /etc/hostname /etc/init.d/hostname.sh start
[05:19] <losher> headrx: 2 separate commands: sudo echo wildwest.example.com > /etc/hostname THEN NEWLINE sudo /etc/init.d/hostname.sh start
[05:19] <headrx> bash wont let me run ^
[05:19] <lexxy> yeah,
[05:19] <headrx> oh
[05:19] <headrx> thank you
[05:19] <PatrickL> how can i restore files and settings? the system somehow logout and all my settings and files are gone.
[05:19] <askvictor> joekarl: guest additions are there.
[05:19] <Chaorain> edbian, k it says samba was not installed
[05:19] <cabrey_> lexxy, what was the solutino/
[05:19] <cabrey_> solution?*
[05:19] <Philster2> well iPhone.... yeah still mac my apologies
[05:19] <lexxy>  will b alright cabrey thanx for your great support
[05:20] <lexxy> ndiswrapper for the mean time
[05:20] <Z3ro3X> cabrey, edbian, I converted an ext3 to an ext4.  Running fsck isn't enough I was told the data also has to be moved on the disc as well and a defrag would do the trick.
[05:20] <cabrey_> Philster2, thats ok, were you looking for a tool or just testing the waters?
[05:21] <headrx> sudo echo wildwest.example.com > /etc/hostname was denied as well
[05:21] <edbian> Z3ro3X: I don't know anything about converting from ext3 to ext4 but I do know that you do not need to defrag them once they are up and running.
[05:21] <edbian> Chaorain: Meaning samba never was installed or that now (after that command) it is no longer installed?
[05:21] <PatrickL> I am new to ubuntu..
[05:21] <Chaorain> edbian, it was samba 4
[05:21] <cabrey_> !new | PatrickL
[05:21] <Chaorain> edbian, I did "sudo apt-get purge samba4"
[05:21] <edbian> Chaorain: I don't know anything about it being compatable or incompatable with vista
[05:22] <kazagistar> PatrickL: did you install it, or run the live cd?
[05:22] <headrx> losher : sudo echo wildwest.example.com > /etc/hostname was denied as well
[05:22] <edbian> Chaorain: Do you understand what that command does?
[05:22] <PatrickL> i installed it
[05:22] <ramael> my Wlan is RTL-8139 100/10 MBit (wired Centrino Wireless LAN) and my driver is ipw2100... I want to change it to madwifi, but will it work???
[05:23] <Chaorain> edbian, not exactly. makes samba go poof?
[05:23] <cabrey_> ramael, why?
[05:23] <atila339> Can somebody help me? When i try to install themes i get this "this theme will not look as intended because the required black-white_2-Style"
[05:23] <oenone> i really can find anything about how to make my usb headset to work in buntu
[05:23] <Guiri> I can't figure out proper ufw syntax. How do i delete "49300:tcp                  ALLOW   49160:tcp"?
[05:23] <losher> headrx: I think you're missing some quotes. Edit the name into the file instead with an editor...
[05:23] <Dev_u_pper> PatrickL: congratulations =D  welcome to linux!
[05:23] <PatrickL> It is a pain while i kept losing my data and settings..
[05:24] <joekarl> askvictor, okay, they normally solve most of the problems, so I'm kinda lost on that, good luck though
[05:24] <ramael> because with ipw2100 I cannot use aireplay-ng
[05:24] <askvictor> joekarl: thanks anyway
[05:24] <Dev_u_pper> PatrickL: are you having trouble getting access to your documents on windows?
[05:24] <Threetimes> Hi, ubuntu is using 700 mb ram, I can't figure out why.
[05:24] <edbian> Chaorain: I will run through each part of the command "sudo" gives you root power (you need root power to install/remove software amoung other things).  "apt-get" is the cli package manager program "purge" is a flag for apt-get to remove the package and all of it's config files.  If you ran sudo apt-get remove it would leave the config files and just remove the package.  "samba" is the package name.  Bottom line, yes it made "samba go poof" :)
[05:24] <askvictor> Threetimes: what are you running?
[05:25] <cabrey_> Threetimes, open gnome-system-monitor
[05:25] <Threetimes> Xorg uses 120, Opera uses 50, compiz uses 20, and mysql uses 20
[05:25] <Threetimes> anything else uses less that 10
[05:25] <losher> Threetimes: check out http://www.linuxatemyram.com/
[05:25] <askvictor> Threetimes: rest could be used by cache
[05:25] <Dev_u_pper> Threetimes: is there a process that is wasting 700MB of memory, or are you actually short 700MB or RAM?
[05:25] <Dev_u_pper> *of
[05:25] <Chaorain> edbian, ok I knew most of that but not the "purge" part. I like "make samba go poof." better though
[05:25] <cabrey_> losher, hey! that was mine... :P
[05:26] <edbian> Chaorain: ha ha ha ok
[05:26] <losher> cabrey_: and brilliant it was, too...
[05:26] <PatrickL> i am having trouble with the system auto logout and i lost all the datas and settings
[05:26] <Chaorain> edbian, Thankt
[05:26] <Chaorain> edbian, Thanks
[05:26] <edbian> Chaorain: Unfortunately Samba is a complicated beast and I have never configured it for vista before.  I don't think I can help any more.  Although I will try to find a good how-to and post the link here soon.
[05:26] <edbian> Chaorain: NP
[05:26] <cabrey_> unused ram is wasted ram
[05:27] <losher> cabrey_: would've credited you if I were capable of remembering anyone's name for more than 10 seconds...
[05:27] <cabrey_> haha i dont deserve credit
[05:27] <Chaorain> edbian, I found several but they were all the same and did not work
[05:27] <Dev_u_pper> cabrey_ : lol yeah, i was reading that too
[05:28] <GUSTAVO_29> #ubuntu-es
[05:28] <edbian> Ok should I not waste my time?   Wait long enough here and somebody will come along that will help you :)
[05:28] <cabrey_> GUSTAVO_29, /join #ubuntu-es
[05:28] <oenone> does anybody here know how to make a usb headset work on ubuntu
[05:28] <T0aster> hey guys
[05:28] <GUSTAVO_29> gracias
[05:28] <GUSTAVO_29> cabrey
[05:28] <oenone> i also want my canon pixma ip1980 printer to work on ubuntu
[05:28] <T0aster> how to navigate the rtorrent directory after I hit enter and tab
[05:28] <T0aster> I see the list
[05:29] <cabrey_> GUSTAVO_29, :)
[05:29] <T0aster> how to enter subdir?
[05:29] <cabrey_> T0aster, cd
[05:29] <Chaorain> edbian, I found several but they were all the same and did not work
[05:29] <T0aster> in rtorrent?
[05:29] <cabrey_> T0aster, oh i thought you meant in a terminal
[05:29] <edbian> Chaorain: Ok.  Good luck!
[05:29] <T0aster> thats not what I did b4 I know that
[05:29] <T0aster> ok
[05:29] <T0aster> so do you know?
[05:29] <CrazyTux[m]> Does anyone know of a good west coast (California preferably) mirror for amd64 / ubuntu
[05:29] <cabrey_> T0aster, no don't use rtorrent
[05:29] <Threetimes> I have a 220mb disk cache, and I am using 150-200 for applications. http://paste.ubuntu.com/193971/
[05:29] <T0aster> I see the folder list
[05:29] <cabrey_> CrazyTux[m], use a torrent to download
[05:30] <T0aster> I did it once b4
[05:30] <xcerca> ubuntu can be installed on a RAID 0 array correct ?
[05:30] <CrazyTux[m]> im downloading from god knows where at 65kb/s its killing me
[05:30] <CrazyTux[m]> cabrey_: I mean for /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:30] <edbian> I just saw here: http://www.goitexpert.com/entry.cfm?entry=Connect-Vista-To-A-Linux-Share--UBUNTU that if you have samba 3.0.22+ you are good to go with vista!  Since ubuntu is on 4.0.xxx you're good
[05:30] <oenone> help please
[05:30] <CrazyTux[m]> cabrey_: for packages/etc
[05:30] <T0aster> nobody here is an rtorrent guru?
[05:30] <Chaorain> Is there a way to permanatly dim a desktop screen? F11 works but if I click it goes back to normal
[05:30] <cabrey_> CrazyTux[m], oh i got what you mean, checkout:
[05:30] <cabrey_> !mirrors
[05:30] <xcerca> is the RAID controler included in the ubuntu intallation ?
[05:30] <edbian> Chaorain: I just saw here: http://www.goitexpert.com/entry.cfm?entry=Connect-Vista-To-A-Linux-Share--UBUNTU that if you have samba 3.0.22 you're good to go with vista.
[05:30] <losher> T0aster: type directory/ and it should autocomplete. Type ../ to go up a directory
[05:31] <CrazyTux[m]> cabrey_: crap, thats where i'm already at, they only have two amd64 mirrors in the US
[05:31] <CrazyTux[m]> cabrey_: and one of them is broken...
[05:31] <glicks> is there an ubuntu remix channel?
[05:31] <Chaorain> edbian, The Repo is only up to 2 something
[05:31] <CrazyTux[m]> cabrey_: and the other I download at 64kb/s
[05:31] <cabrey_> CrazyTux[m], :/ try japan servers, they have so much bandwidth
[05:31] <T0aster> so if the subdir I want is titled downloads what should I type?
[05:31] <CrazyTux[m]> cabrey_: I'm far from japan.... and they don't have amd64?
[05:31] <Dev_u_pper> wow... im cloning the kernel source tree, and it is only moving at 25 kb/s :D
[05:32] <edbian> Chaorain: Go to the samba website and download a .deb file and you can install it with dpkg -i filename.deb Unfortuately I have to go now :( Sorry I couldn't help more.
[05:32] <flashbak> Hi there. I've long awaited xawtv4 for any Ubuntu. Has anyone got this compile yet? It's been two years since it hasn't been able to work and is a useful program.
[05:32] <cabrey_> CrazyTux[m], try different mirrors from around the us/canada then, distance usually doesnt make that much of a difference
[05:32] <Chaorain> edbian, Thanks
[05:32] <losher> T0aster: it's all relative to the directory you started rtorrent in. If you started in foo, then to see foo/bar you only need type bar...
[05:33] <Threetimes> CrazyTux[m]: Try nl.releases.ubuntu.com they might be far away, but they're fast!
[05:33] <CrazyTux[m]> cabrey_: but they dont have amd64 as listed....
[05:33] <CrazyTux[m]> Threetimes: trying
[05:33] <Dev_u_pper> edbian: samba doesn't usually update it's configuration that much, you should be able to read their guid and apply it (setting-per-setting) to ubuntu's version of the configuration file
[05:33] <cabrey_> Threetimes, where is that?
[05:33] <Threetimes> the netherlands, europe
[05:34] <CrazyTux[m]> Threetimes: no amd64 :(
[05:34] <Threetimes> http://nl.releases.ubuntu.com/jaunty/ubuntu-9.04-desktop-amd64.iso
[05:34] <T0aster> I cann see the torrent name I wanna load
[05:34] <flashbak> Any programmers here that might be interested in fixing up xawtv4? I've got it close and down to one error now.
[05:34] <T0aster> but what cmd do I use to make it start
[05:34] <Dev_u_pper> ** Question/Bug-Related/NeedInfo ** : does anyone here have a Compaq Presario R4200 - we need information from it if you own one for a kernel patch in development for the upcoming ubuntu.  Contact me if you do or if you know anyone that does.
[05:34] <CrazyTux[m]> Threetimes: I'm talking about for actual packages/maintainer
[05:35] <CrazyTux[m]> Threetimes: I already have ubuntu installed as amd64
[05:35] <``y7> is anybody in here familiar with verizon fios and using ubuntu as a router/firewall?
[05:35] <cabrey_> Dev_u_pper, are you on a bug team/
[05:35] <cabrey_> ?*
[05:35] <Dev_u_pper> cabrey_ : we're fixing a keyboard quirk, multimedia button related
[05:35] <T0aster> duh
[05:35] <casinaroyale> I have been having problems with my sound since I updated to jaunty and even karmic doesnt seem to do any good. Can anyone help?
[05:35] <Threetimes> CrazyTux[m]: ok, ill check for the archives...
[05:35] <T0aster> I just had the wrong view
[05:35] <Chaorain> edbian, Hey will the debian version work?
[05:35] <casinaroyale> I have a simple 2.1 speaker system
[05:36] <T0aster> I had completed selected
[05:36] <Guest49389> Can someone tell me how to set up my location i have it set to africa and my clock is messed up, and if i fix it, it gest messed up when i reboot
[05:36] <losher> T0aster: so you're good to go?
[05:36] <CrazyTux[m]> I think I'm going to not be able to do this if I have to keep my system updated --- taking hours
[05:36] <Threetimes> CrazyTux[m]: http://nl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/jaunty/main/binary-amd64/Release
[05:36] <puller> can i get help with a slow boot on ubuntu 9.04 with ext 4
[05:37] <headrx> http://codepad.org/vHSJWedI
[05:37] <headrx> that wont run, says it cant find the package
[05:37] <Guiri> Can I allow an entire port range in ufw?
[05:37] <cabrey> Guiri, yes
[05:38] <glicks> does anyone have the 1000HE eeepc
[05:38] <glicks> ?
[05:38] <Dev_u_pper> 1-65535 :)
[05:38] <cabrey> !anyone
[05:38] <Dev_u_pper> tcp/udp
[05:38] <Dev_u_pper> :)
[05:38] <Guiri> cabrey: sudo ufw allow 49160/49300?
[05:38] <Guiri> gives an error for some reason
[05:38] <cabrey> Guiri, install gufw, its a nice gui for that firewall
[05:38] <usser> Guiri, ufw allow 8080:8090, man ufw they have examples
[05:39] <Threetimes> I have a 220mb disk cache, and I am using 150-200 for applications. free says way more: http://paste.ubuntu.com/193971/
[05:39] <maxagaz> is there a package to install python 2.6.2 on hardy (LTS) ?
[05:39] <linux_stu> what grub entry will be listed for the kernel linux-image-virtual?
[05:40] <cabrey> linux_stu, that is just a virtual package
[05:40] <linux_stu> cabrey: are you sure?  under description, it says "Linux kernel image for virtual machines".  by installing it, will i not have kernel option for the virtual machine kernel in grub?
[05:41] <linux_stu> (description in synaptic, i mean)
[05:41] <Dev_u_pper> maxgaz : all packages can be found listed at http://packages.ubuntu.com/ , which have official support.  In addition, python MAY provide precompiled .deb files at their leisure, from their website.  We do not officially support those
[05:41] <Dev_u_pper> *maxagaz ^^
[05:41] <J-Rodd> ah, anyone know anything about wireless card drivers?
[05:41] <cabrey> linux_stu, hmm maybe i take that back. i've never heard about that but it makes sense
[05:41] <cabrey> !wireless
[05:42] <Guiri> usser: ERROR: bad port
[05:42] <Guiri> hmm
[05:42] <puller> can i get help with a slow boot on ubuntu 9.04 with ext 4
[05:42] <casinaroyale> does any one have any clue why my sound is flaky in ubuntu?
[05:42] <cabrey> !sound
[05:42] <Guest49389> How do i change my location settings
[05:43] <linux_stu> the thing that confuses me is that when i install "linux-image-virtual", the kernel option in grub is listed as " Ubuntu 9.04, kernel 2.6.28-11-server".  Would this not correspond to "linux-image-server"?  it confuses me...
[05:43] <usser> Guiri, how about  sudo ufw --dry-run allow 8080:8090/tcp
[05:43] <cabrey> Guest49389, System > Administration > Time & Date
[05:43] <Threetimes> I have a 220mb disk cache, and I am using 150-200 for applications. free says 500mb is "gone". http://paste.ubuntu.com/193971/
[05:46] <shadeslayer> hey does anyone have emerald-theme-manager ??
[05:46] <Guest49389> cabrey, thanks woa man thats the third time you help me well thankyou very much
[05:46] <losher> puller: you can look at the dmesg output after it boots and from the timestamps, see what took a long time, & then tell us...
[05:46] <Guest49389> cabrey, do you volunteer for this
[05:47] <cabrey> yes
[05:47] <shadeslayer> Guest49389: everyone here is a volunteer :)
[05:47] <joekarl> shadeslayer, yeah, don't like it that much, course I use mac4lin so no use to me
[05:47] <Guiri> hmm nope
[05:47] <Guiri> wonder if its my version of ufw
[05:47] <Guiri> I have hardy with the latest updates
[05:47] <puller> losher: i did, check it out http://pastebin.com/f41204754 anythign look odd?
[05:48] <shadeslayer> joekarl: could you open it for me,i think i may have found a bug in it :)
[05:48] <joekarl> shadeslayer, k
[05:48] <shadeslayer> just need confirmation
[05:48] <shadeslayer> joekarl: now in the search bar,type anything , and click reload
[05:48] <shadeslayer> *refresh
[05:48] <Guest49389> shadeslayer, so why do yall volunteer like what cause do you hate windows
[05:49] <joekarl> shadeslayer, k, what am i looking for?
[05:49] <shadeslayer> Guest49389: no,because we are comitted to help ubuntu and make it more popular
[05:49] <shadeslayer> joekarl: its supposed to crash :)
[05:49] <myself> hey what is a good thing to wathc movies with in linux, GNOME, is the movie player it comes with good or should i use something else?
[05:49] <Threetimes> I have a 220mb disk cache, and I am using 150-200 for applications. free says 500mb is "gone". http://paste.ubuntu.com/193971/
[05:49] <myself> well, if i m watching a series
[05:49] <Dev_u_pper> Guest49389: volunteers who all share the desire to have everything in ubuntu work so... (*ahem* excuse me :P)  blissfully :)
[05:49] <shadeslayer> myself: vlc :)
[05:50] <Dev_u_pper> I'm working on vlc :D
[05:50] <myself> whats vlc
[05:50] <shadeslayer> Dev_u_pper: hehe
[05:50] <usser> myself, i prefer mplayer
[05:50] <shadeslayer> !info vlc | myself
[05:50] <soreau> myself: Good alternatives are mplayer or vnc
[05:50] <soreau> myself: vlc*
[05:50] <usser> !info mplayer
[05:50] <Dev_u_pper> adding custom equalizer presets as per a feature request from ubuntu ... so yeah we DO listen :D
[05:50] <myself> i'll use vlc since dev_u_pper is working on it
[05:50] <shadeslayer> myself: just sudo apt-get install vlc
[05:50] <usser> see mplayer is the ultimate
[05:50] <joekarl> shadeslayer, hmm nope,
[05:51] <myself> mplayer has an m in it, makes me think of microsoft
[05:51] <shadeslayer> joekarl: bah..too bad
[05:51] <joekarl> shadeslayer, what version are you using?
[05:51] <shadeslayer> joekarl: how do i see the version :P ??
[05:51] <losher> puller: Dunno what this is all about, but it looks like it took 50 seconds: [ 26.484057] eth1: no IPv6 routers present  [ 76.804087] ata1.00: exception Emask 0x0 SAct 0x7 SErr 0x0 action 0x6 frozen
[05:51] <``y7> vlc is so over-rated, go with mplayer. it's so much better
[05:51] <myself> is anyone here on karmic koala already
[05:51] <cabrey> myself, /join #ubuntu+1
[05:51] <joekarl> check the top of the window, it'll say emeraltd theme manager then version
[05:52] <puller> losher: so you do not know how to fix it?
[05:52] <headrx> http://codepad.org/vHSJWedI
[05:52] <joekarl> shadeslayer, I've got 0.7.2
[05:52] <Threetimes> My dad uses windows xp pro sp3. He has a printer. I can't print since a few weeks.
[05:52] <shadeslayer> myself: im thinking of upgrading
[05:52] <losher> puller: I don't even know what it means....
[05:52] <headrx> bash cant find any of those packages
[05:52] <shadeslayer> joekarl: how do i check that??
[05:52] <puller> losher: ok but its a step in the right direction how did you know it took 50 seconds?
[05:52] <headrx> does anyone know where i can get a better repository file (aka more up to date)
[05:52] <headrx> for 7.10 server
[05:52] <joekarl> shadeslayer, emerald --version      in terminal
[05:53] <losher> puller: the timestamp goes from 26 to 76. I believe that's in seconds...
[05:53] <bazhang> !karmic > myself
[05:53] <shadeslayer> joekarl: same,im talking about the manager,not the actual programme itself
[05:53] <puller> losher: thanks
[05:54] <shadeslayer> bazhang: oh btw,is kde 4.3 supported now since its in backports??
[05:54] <Guest49389> it should be more popular but why???
[05:54] <joekarl> shadeslayer, right sorry, check the top of the emerald theme manager window, should be the window title
[05:55] <bazhang> shadeslayer, no idea; best to ask in #kubuntu
[05:55] <shadeslayer> bazhang: ok
[05:55] <cabrey> Guest49389, what?
[05:55] <J-Rodd> sorry im new to linux, how do i get to console mode?
[05:56] <cabrey> J-Rodd, recovery mode?
[05:56] <shadeslayer> joekarl: hmm...nope cant see anything which says version
[05:56] <cabrey> J-Rodd, or a virtual console?
[05:56] <Dev_u_pper> !terminal
[05:56] <losher> puller: it's hard-drive related. What was running previously on this machine?
[05:56] <flashbak> Alright, to whom would I submit a request for the xawtv4 package to be added to Ubuntu/Debian rather than the current xawtv3?
[05:56] <puller> losher: vista
[05:56] <puller> losher: i am dual booting
[05:57] <losher> puller: and vista runs fine?
[05:57] <joekarl> shadeslayer, hmm check  emerald --version  its normally the same version as the theme manager
[05:57] <shadeslayer> flashbak: file it as a  wishlist in launchpad
[05:57] <cabrey> flashbak, the maintainer
[05:57] <Dev_u_pper> :O ... wait a sek...
[05:57] <Dev_u_pper> !hello | Dev_u_pper
[05:57] <Dev_u_pper> :(
[05:57] <shadeslayer> joekarl: i told you...its 0.7.2 :)
[05:57] <puller> losher: correct, ubutn runs fine too just boots really slow
[05:57] <flashbak> Maintainer was sent email in 2007 with no response. No response has been had on the website since 2007 either.
[05:57] <cabrey> shadeslayer, emerald has been deprecated and is no longer developed
[05:57] <Dev_u_pper> !hello | puller
[05:57] <joekarl> shadeslayer, sorry, hard to keep track of stuff
[05:57] <Dev_u_pper> :D !
[05:57] <shadeslayer> puller: \0/.....17 second boot time :)
[05:58] <joekarl> shadeslayer, which version of ubuntu are you on
[05:58] <joekarl> ?
[05:58] <puller> shadeslayer: what?
[05:58] <shadeslayer> cabrey: ah...thanks for the info,no point in filing a bug then :(
[05:58] <oenone> how do i installm y printer in ubuntu
[05:58] <shadeslayer> puller: < puller> losher: correct, ubutn runs fine too just boots really slow
[05:58] <oenone> help please
[05:58] <bazhang> !printing > oenone
[05:58] <puller> shadeslayer: so why did u say 17 seconds....?
[05:58] <shadeslayer> puller: i guess you meant ubuntu ??
[05:59] <losher> puller: google suggests it might be a kernel issue. In your place, I'd try 8.04, or live with it...
[05:59] <shadeslayer> puller: or is it really ubutn
[05:59] <puller> shadeslayer: what are you talkign abotu lol my ubuntu is booting slow
[05:59] <cabrey> good night all, i really need to go to sleep ;)
[05:59] <shadeslayer> puller: yes...what version of ubuntu?
[05:59] <martintux> can someone help me with sound on dell?
[06:00] <Guest49389> cabrey, just saying why do you all share the desire to make ubuntu more popular
[06:00] <Ap0llo> hello is there anyone out there that can help me?
[06:00] <oenone> @obutto
[06:00] <oenone> my printer is not found on the support printers list
[06:00] <bazhang> Guest49389, please chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:00] <puller> shadeslayer: the latest version
[06:00] <shadeslayer> Guest49389: that would be a question for offtopic
[06:01] <shadeslayer> puller: 9.04?? i can boot 9.04 in 17 secs
[06:01] <puller> shadeslayer: ok well see i cant cause i am having problems, woudl you liek to help
[06:01] <randabis> oenone: ubottu is a bot
[06:01] <headrx> im assuming that this is why alot of my packages arent working  :
[06:01] <headrx> # Line commented out by installer because it failed to verify:
[06:01] <headrx> # deb http://ie.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy main restricted
[06:01] <martintux> can someone help me with sound on dell?
[06:01] <headrx> theres several that are commented out
[06:01] <Ap0llo> can someone help please im having a /home issue on my laptop with 9.04
[06:01] <joekarl> shadeslayer, I'm on karmic so it may have been fixed there
[06:01] <oenone> ooops sorry
[06:01] <Guest49389> sorry guys
[06:02] <mobi-sheep> headrx: You're using Gutsy? ;O
[06:02] <martintux> i'm using intel  82801I (ICH9 Family)
[06:02] <bazhang> headrx, 7.10 is end of life, you need to upgrade
[06:02] <shadeslayer> joekarl: hmm..maybe
[06:02] <oenone> i didnt know ]
[06:02] <Guest49389> well bye and thanks again cabrey for your help
[06:02] <bazhang> !upgrade > headrx
[06:02] <losher> headrx: try uncommenting them & do sudo apt-get update
[06:02] <shadeslayer> joekarl: is karmic without a GUI or was hal fixed??
[06:02] <rob_p> Ap0llo, Just ask your question.  Perhaps someone will know the answer and assist you.
[06:02] <headrx> everyone: 7.10 for a project server
[06:02] <shadeslayer> puller: install bootchart : sudo apt-get install bootchart
[06:02] <Ap0llo> rob_p its pretty complicated for me to say
[06:03] <domo> headrx: still upgrade
[06:03] <domo> lol
[06:03] <mobi-sheep> !gutsy | headrx
[06:03] <headrx> im running 9.04 on main machine
[06:03] <bazhang> headrx, it is no longer supported, please see the bots message to you
[06:03] <oenone> can i use my pixma ip1980 on limux 64bit???
[06:03] <joekarl> shadeslayer, karmic is running just fine for me, haven't had any video issues at all,
[06:03] <headrx> Gotcha
[06:03] <puller> shadeslayer: ok and then what
[06:03] <joekarl> shadeslayer, also running in vbox just fine too :D
[06:03] <rob_p> Ap0llo, Well I don't know what to tell you then, if you can't even explain the issue.  Good luck with it though!
[06:03] <shadeslayer> joekarl: :|
[06:03] <Ap0llo> but for some reason when i log in i just get a background image and a mouse cursor
[06:03] <shadeslayer> puller: then reboot
[06:03] <Ap0llo> to show that something is running i print scren
[06:04] <Ap0llo> and when i save it says cannot access /home
[06:04] <Ap0llo> i can type the full error
[06:04] <puller> shadeslayer: then comeback in here and ask you for more help ? lol
[06:04] <rob_p> Ap0llo, Sounds like your user's home directory is not accessible.
[06:04] <soreau> Ap0llo: Did this just happen or is this the first time you installed linux?
[06:04] <rob_p> Ap0llo, What change(s) did you make recently that may have caused it?
[06:05] <Ap0llo> I did an alternative install since i installed via the alternative iso
[06:05] <joekarl> shadeslayer, when was hal broke? I've been using karmic for weeks without problems
[06:05] <headrx> I really should have thought about installing something newer before i went through the time of setting all this shit up lol
[06:05] <shadeslayer> puller: no,then see /var/log/bootchart for the bootchart
[06:05] <Ap0llo> i run a 64 bit OS on my laptop which is a lenovo t400
[06:05] <bazhang> please watch the language headrx
[06:05] <puller> shadeslayer: ok but how can i use that to help solve my poblem?
[06:05] <shadeslayer> joekarl: it was broke about 2-3 weeks ago
[06:05] <Ap0llo> this was just a regular install and i think it has to do with the LILO
[06:06] <shadeslayer> puller: that will give us an idea what is taking so much time to load
[06:06] <joekarl> shadeslayer, hmm, I must've gotten it right after that, alls good now
[06:06] <rob_p> Ap0llo, Why would you think that?
[06:06] <puller> shadeslayer: then we can fix it?
[06:06] <shadeslayer> puller: yes,we can fix it with bum
[06:06] <Ap0llo> rob_p its just an assumption since i cant find out what started the issue
[06:06] <puller> whats bum?
[06:06] <jpangamarca> @oenone http://www.openprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Canon-pixma_ip1980
[06:06] <jpangamarca> it should work
[06:06] <shadeslayer> !info bum | puller
[06:06] <puller> shadeslayer: whats bum
[06:06] <Ap0llo> ive installed oses on this machine before so this is the first time ive come upon this
[06:07] <puller> shadeslayer: should i install that now too?
[06:07] <rob_p> Ap0llo, LILO is a bootloader.  Your system is booting, correct?
[06:07] <shadeslayer> puller: sure,now or after a reboot
[06:07] <puller> shadeslayer: is it just sudo apt-get bum
[06:07] <Ap0llo> rob_p it boots up properly i believe, doesnt show a list at all
[06:07] <shadeslayer> puller: add install after apt-getr
[06:08] <Ap0llo> just says LILO booting Linux and then it boots up the OS
[06:08] <puller> shadeslayer: yea thats hwat i meant lol, ok i am abotu to reboot be back in a bit
[06:08] <shadeslayer> bazhang: theres a typo in #kubuntu at the end,could you please fix it?? :)
[06:08] <shadeslayer> puller: sure
[06:08] <puller> shadeslayer: thanks for your help thus far, very much appreciated
[06:08] <shadeslayer> bazhang: in the topic i mean
[06:08] <shadeslayer> puller: no problem
[06:09] <rob_p> Ap0llo, I'd investigate the issue of the home dir not being accessible.  LILO is fine.
[06:09] <Ap0llo> rob_p well then i can type out the error i get when saving a screen shot
[06:09] <heatmzzr> I downloaded the xbox controller driver, its called xboxdrv-linux-0.4.6.tar.bz2  ... my question is.. where should I extract the files so it installs correctly.. (newbie)
[06:10] <shadeslayer> heatmzzr: you can extract it anywhere...
[06:10] <headrx> i cant seem to find anything on updating from 7.10 to 8.04 on the command line
[06:10] <rob_p> Ap0llo, Gotta step away for a bit.  But pastebin the error and if someone hasn't helped you by the time I return, I will assist then.
[06:10] <Dev_u_pper> heatmzzr: extract it anywhere, and then check in the extracted folder for a file called "README"
[06:10] <headrx> can anyone shoot me in the right direction
[06:10] <Threetimes> I have a 220mb disk cache, and I am using 150-200 for applications. free says 500mb is "gone". http://paste.ubuntu.com/193971/
[06:10] <heatmzzr> read the readme, still scratchin my head
[06:11] <Dev_u_pper> !upgrade
[06:11] <CrazyTux[m]> hey guys have dual head monitor / two monitors setup ---- with xinerama when I drag my mouse from screen A to screen B It leaves a "mouse hand" on both screens?  any ideas/thoughts
[06:11] <shadeslayer> headrx: what desktop enviromenr
[06:11] <Loganhoup> headrx: no we only we shoot you here. The right direction costs extra.
[06:11] <skeletal> guys, i need help, pleaz. I'm in my terminal with root, i need open some like ( equal) to "explorer.exe" from do windows.  How can I do it????
[06:11] <headrx> rt
[06:11] <shadeslayer> *enviroment
[06:11] <headrx> no enviroment
[06:11] <headrx> i found it tho
[06:11] <skeletal> i need open some windows or file manager in my ubuntu
[06:11] <headrx> ty
[06:11] <Ap0llo> rob_p , soreau this is the error i get "Impossible to save the screenshot to file:///home/Name/Desktop/Screenshot.png   Error was Error opening the file <location of screenshot>:permission denied. Please choose another location and retry
[06:11] <headrx> and no shots!
[06:11] <FloodBot1> headrx: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:11] <skeletal> how can I do it guys????????
[06:11] <shadeslayer> skeletal: nautilus
[06:12] <bazhang> skeletal, do what
[06:12] <skeletal> shadeslayer> but, what is the command?
[06:13] <shadeslayer> skeletal: that *is* the command
[06:13] <sharetel> I am planning to install Ubuntu 8.04 LTS Desktop edition.......... I need to get an HP2015d USB printer working so that Windows XP/Vista users can access it.... can someone please let me know how to proceed
[06:13] <WIGGMPk> skeletal: nautilus is the default "windows explorer" of GNOME
[06:13] <shadeslayer> !printer > sharetel
[06:13] <Threetimes> sharetel: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkPrintingFromWinXP
[06:13] <Ap0llo> can someone help my error i just put up?
[06:14] <WIGGMPk> Im sad that Jaunty released with 2.6.28 and Fedora 11 released with 2.6.29 =*(
[06:15] <Threetimes> Ap0llo: what is <location of screenshot>
[06:15] <heatmzzr> Help. I type ./xboxdrv and I get.. "no such file or directory... what is newbie here doing wrong
[06:15] <puller> shadeslayer: hey i am back here is my log http://www.filedropper.com/mike-laptop-jaunty-20090612-1
[06:16] <Ap0llo> Threetimes: '/home/name/desktop/screenshot.png' i just got lazy typing the whole thing out :p
[06:16] <Threetimes> Ap0llo: what is the output for ls -l /home/name/desktop
[06:16] <Marticus> any chance squashfs-tools-4.0 can be stabilized for amd64?
[06:17] <shadeslayer> puller: whoa!! thats alot of processes takin up processor time
[06:17] <Ap0llo> Threetimes you want me to type that in terminal
[06:17] <shadeslayer> puller: lemme recheck
[06:17] <Threetimes> Ap0llo: yes
[06:17] <puller> shadeslayer: so whats that exactly mean
[06:17] <puller> trying to fix this and learn a bti too
[06:17] <Marticus> can't seem to install any distributions because of the incompatibility with older tools on newer kernels, need newer kernels for my core 2 duo
[06:18] <heatmzzr> can someone help me with this xboxdrv I downloaded?
[06:18] <opop> amarok14 repo now contains amarok14
[06:18] <shadeslayer> puller: see those processes with the long bars ?? theyre hogging up boot time.just one more question before we start bum...whats your file system ?
[06:18] <Ap0llo> Threetimes : it seems that it shows the files that are on my desktop
[06:19] <puller> shades ext 4
[06:19] <Ap0llo> Threetimes: but i cannot see them
[06:19] <puller> shadeslayer: ext 4
[06:19] <Threetimes> paste the output to paste.ubuntu.com
[06:19] <shadeslayer> puller: ok,sudoedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:20] <puller> shadeslayer: alrighty i am in menu.lst for edditing
[06:20] <hosk> how do i access my phppgadmin installation over the internet?
[06:21] <shadeslayer> puller: remove splash from the kernel line and add rootflags=data=writeback to the end of the line
[06:21] <puller> shadeslayer: ok what sthat goign to do?
[06:21] <nickolaus> For some reason I am unable to view/access my windows computer over my network from my ubuntu computer.
[06:21] <shadeslayer> puller: so it looks like ro quiet vga=0x0365 rootflags=data=writeback , this will decrease the boottime
[06:21] <Threetimes> Ap0llo: I need the exact information in the output of that commnd.
[06:22] <puller> shades so remove this kernel		/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.28-11-generic root=UUID=5b312b96-6820-4336-b0c0-6b4786f50d4d ro quiet splash
[06:22] <shadeslayer> puller: NO...dont remove it
[06:22] <puller> shades ok
[06:22] <puller> shadeslayer:  so what exactly am i doing again
[06:22] <Ap0llo> Threetimes : like for example i see -rw-r--r-- 1 1002 name       88944147 2009-06-03 16:26 <file> (not typing out the full file name)
[06:22] <Dev_u_pper> :P ... close one
[06:23] <shadeslayer> puller: http://tuxtraining.com/2008/09/28/how-to-make-ubuntu-extremely-fast
[06:23] <Threetimes> Ap0llo: ok
[06:23] <puller> i got it i think
[06:23] <shadeslayer> puller: see tuning the hard drive
[06:23] <gartral> hi all.. is there any non-root way of making a transfer of files (copy) happen directly without using a buffer? I have a terrabyte of data trying to move between two external drives, with a system that has 512 mb ram and a 60gb hdd internally...
[06:23] <puller> shadeslayer: ok so i removed the splash and added the new ending
[06:24] <shadeslayer> puller: did you see the link i sent you??
[06:24] <puller> shadeslayer: yea
[06:24] <Dev_u_pper> hehe shadeslayer, you should see my ubuntu install... it only has about 20 lines of bash script to build it :)
[06:24] <Dev_u_pper> with debootstrap xD
[06:25] <shadeslayer> puller: follow all the instructions there first :)
[06:25] <shadeslayer> Dev_u_pper: boot time?
[06:25] <Dev_u_pper> shadeslayer: about 10-15 seconds
[06:25] <Dev_u_pper> :)
[06:25] <Dev_u_pper> most of the boot is the kernel's fault actually
[06:25] <shadeslayer> Dev_u_pper: use bootchart to measure it :P....
[06:26] <pwnguin> is there a website related to the factoid bot?
[06:26] <shadeslayer> !help | puller
[06:26] <puller> shadeslayer: anyway to quickly check if i have a dual proccesor?
[06:26] <miguel1057> I have a probloem with my wlan0 and ubuntu 9.04, i can connect to internet services that dont have encryption but not that have encrypto
[06:26] <shadeslayer> pwnguin: see above
[06:26] <gartral> !ubbotu
[06:26] <nickolaus> For some reason I am unable to view/access my windows computer over my network from my ubuntu computer. All of my samba installs seem to be in order. any ideas?
[06:26] <gartral> !ubottu
[06:26] <Dev_u_pper> lol i might need a million other packages for it haha... the machine that install was made for has about as much processing power as linksys's current consumer routers :P
[06:26] <Ap0llo> Threetimes : any solution?
[06:26] <shadeslayer> pwnguin: whats your processor model no. ?
[06:27] <pwnguin> shadeslayer: ?
[06:27] <miguel1057> I have a probloem with my wlan0 and ubuntu 9.04, i can connect to internet services that dont have encryption but not that have encryption, it show that i connected but when i try to ping the gateway or go to a website y dosnt work
[06:27] <pwnguin> shadeslayer: ARM
[06:27] <shadeslayer> bleh....
[06:27] <shadeslayer> pwnguin: sorry mate
[06:27] <shadeslayer> puller: one sec
[06:27] <miguel1057> I have a probloem with my wlan0 and ubuntu 9.04, i can connect to internet services that dont have encryption but not that have encryption, it show that i connected but when i try to ping the gateway or go to a website it dosnt work
[06:27] <darlek> miguel1057, have you passed any keys to the wifi connection?  wicd and other programs allow you to store the key value,  as well from terminal the word 'key' is used to pass a value
[06:27] <puller> shadeslayer:  ok
[06:28] <shadeslayer> puller: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[06:28] <randabis> I don't think ARM processors have multiple cores
[06:28] <pwnguin> puller: a quick check with "cat /proc/cpuinfo
[06:28] <miguel1057> darlek,  sure i put the encrytion key and it connects but i cant go to any website and i cant do ping to the gateway
[06:28] <pwnguin> randabis: well, if you count dedicated DSP cores, maybe
[06:29] <puller> shadeslayer: if i got two cores i am a dual correct?
[06:29] <shadeslayer> pwnguin: i kept putting cat /proc/cpu/info -_-
[06:29] <shadeslayer> puller: yep
[06:29] <darlek> miguel1057, the only other thing I can suggest is checking for a proxy and turn it off.  I don't know how to test for that though
[06:29] <pwnguin> one caveat with cpuinfo is that hyperthreading will show up as dual core
 : if you are using WEP, and you accidentally mistyped your wireless code i believe that there is no way of detecting that it was incorrectly typed, so it will just keep trying
[06:29] <miguel1057> darlek,  i dont know whats the problem but if i do the same steps from "windows" it works ok
[06:29] <pwnguin> when it's just the weaker sibling
[06:29] <nickolaus> For some reason I am unable to view/access my windows computer over my network from my ubuntu computer. All of my samba installs seem to be in order. any ideas?
[06:30] <puller> shadeslayer: ok i am booting and testign its speed now
[06:30] <puller> shadeslayer: brb
[06:30] <shadeslayer> puller: sure :)(
[06:30] <miguel1057> Dev_u_pper,  after i put the key show me that i connected to the wireless network
[06:30] <shadeslayer> puller: you did enable readhead?
[06:30] <shadeslayer> ......
[06:30] <Dev_u_pper> WEP will still show that it is connected, regardless if it is actually communicating.
[06:31] <miguel1057> darlek,  well i think the problem is the driver but ubuntu recognized it automatically when i installed it
 : type this from the terminal : ifconfig
 : and then check to see if your wireless adapter has an IP address.  if it does not, let us know.
[06:31] <darlek> miguel1057, Dev_u_pper yes test it directly via the terminal via ifconfig, and see if an IP has been given to you
[06:31] <shadeslayer> hmm..amarok keeps crashing stating that kbuildsycoca4 crashed...any ideas??
[06:32] <miguel1057> Dev_u_pper,  im not in that place where was the problem but i did it and it was giving to my card dhcp address i tryied with manual address too but it didnt work
[06:32] <nickolaus> For some reason I am unable to view/access my windows computer over my network from my ubuntu computer. All of my samba installs seem to be in order. any ideas?
[06:33] <puller> shadeslayer: ok that all helped a little bit but its still taking way to long
[06:33] <miguel1057> it was giving me 192.168.1.140 ip address but i was trying to make ping to 192.168.1.254 thats the gateway and never answer me
[06:33] <Dev_u_pper> miguel1057 : next time, check to see if you can correctly ping the gateway (usually 192.168.1.1 or something similar) - this is a good indicator if you are actually able to "talk" to the network you're trying to work with
[06:33] <Dev_u_pper> oh, i see
[06:33] <miguel1057> Dev_u_pper,  i couldnt i tryied
[06:33] <shadeslayer> puller: ok now you have a new bootchart..please upload it
[06:33] <darlek> miguel1057, the programs to work with in terminal are iwconfig to set the card, including the key, dhclient wlan0 to get the IP, then ifconfig to verify the IP has been received
[06:33] <Ap0llo> Threetimes if anything i cant even see my menu bar or anything just the desktop and my mouse
 : then either they have ping reply turned off (unlikely), or, you mistyped the WEP encryption key (assuming that it was WEP and not WPA(2))
[06:34] <darlek> miguel1057, you're more likely to get the error messages back to the terminal
[06:34] <miguel1057> darlek,  i used iwconfig and it was showing the ssid connected it was ok same the ip address but i dont know what wasnt working good
[06:34] <gartral> Ap0llo: go over your base problem again
 : the last possibility is signal strength.  Make sure you are well within range, and that your wireless card is reported working for ubuntu linux
[06:35] <miguel1057> Dev_u_pper,  i use wpa and wpa2 personal encryption i used it and i gots connected
[06:35] <puller> shadeslayer: http://www.filedropper.com/mike-laptop-jaunty-20090612-2
[06:35] <Ap0llo> gartral Basically i cant do anything once i log in, like i know my files are in my desktop but i cannot see my menu bar nor access my /home folder
[06:35] <JbCrash> hi..i just received ubuntu 9.04 .. i using 8 version... i want do clean installation..if i go vista just delete linux partition... . can i load my vista as normal  ?
[06:35] <miguel1057> Dev_u_pper,  well i tryied from the same place from windows vista i said and it was working
[06:35] <shadeslayer> anyone on kde 4.3 b2 ??
[06:35] <puller> shadeslayer: on boot i see all the text going by pretty fast then it all goes black for a long pause then text comes back and it finishes booting
[06:36] <Ap0llo> gartral i though it was a compiz issue being that i have compiz running but all i see is my desktop and mouse
[06:36] <joekarl> shadeslayer, haven't got a chance to try it yet looks good though
[06:36] <losher> puller: I'd like to see your latest dmesg
[06:36] <puller> losher: ok
[06:36] <shadeslayer> puller: what does it say just before it goes black?
 : excellent, then we can be sure that you were properly connected.  What is your wireless card (make, model)?
[06:37] <JbCrash> hi..i just received ubuntu 9.04 .. i using 8 version... i want do clean installation..if i go vista just delete linux partition... . can i load my vista as normal  ?
[06:37] <shadeslayer> joekarl: yeah,its pretty good imho,but i cant log into kde...kbuildsycoca4 crashes everytime
[06:37] <miguel1057> Dev_u_pper,  right know im working with my laptop and the same card but im in home and this wireless network dosnt have encryption it works good with ubuntu the problem was there with dsl and wpa wpa2 encryption
[06:37] <gartral> Ap0llo: "push" on the top of your screen with the mouse, ou might be able to pan up
[06:37] <puller> shadeslayer: i didnt really remeber it i can check if you want?
[06:37] <joekarl> shadeslayer, suck, oh well it'll get there
[06:37] <puller> losher: http://pastebin.ca/1457453
[06:38] <shadeslayer> puller: please do...till then ill analyze the chart
[06:38] <Ap0llo> gartral : i dont know what your talking about, im moving my mouse all over the place
[06:38] <nickolaus> I am unable to view/share files from my windows computer to my ubuntu 9.04 computer
[06:38] <puller> ok shadeslayer and losher I will be back
[06:38] <Dev_u_pper> miguel1057: because you said that you successfully obtained an IP-address, it is safe to say that the card is working and that you were talking with the network.
[06:38] <Mooms> hey guys sorry to bother but i am stuck with bind, i wanted to know it was an obligation to specify the search domain to have the nslookup resolution on network clients working
[06:38] <shadeslayer> joekarl: any experience on bootcharts?
[06:38] <miguel1057> Dev_u_pper,  sure u then right but i could make ping to ip gateway hehe
[06:38] <gartral> Ap0llo: push your mouse up, way up, like you want it to go off the top of the monitor
[06:39] <shadeslayer> heh...i just noticed...he has boot time of 19 secs....what more does he want??
 : wait, you mean you could _not_ make ping?
[06:39] <headrx> i recently used ssh to upgrade my server (remotely) and now i cant ssh back in, says the host key has changed and that i need to add it to the known_hosts file to allowit... what do i add?
[06:39] <Ap0llo> gartral : i did that nothing happened
[06:40] <miguel1057> Dev_u_pper,  right i was getting and ip address and netmask and dns but i could make ping to 192.168.1.254 it is the gateway
[06:40] <indira> hi
[06:40] <shadeslayer> !hi | indira
[06:40] <gartral> Ap0llo: ok.. hit alt-f2.. does a run dialouge come up?
[06:40] <losher> headrx: doesn't it offer to add it automatically for you?
[06:40] <headrx> it does not
[06:40] <darlek> miguel1057, the dsl encryption for wpa wpa2 may be updated for vista for the card driver, but might be missing for the ubuntu driver.  You might need to use ndiswrapper (it's in synaptic) to load and use the newer vista driver.
[06:40] <joekarl> shadeslayer, nope, sorry can't help in that dept.
[06:40] <Ap0llo> gartral: as in login:pass yes
[06:41] <shadeslayer> joekarl: ok..
[06:41] <Cosmo2> anyone know where .asoundrc is located?
[06:41] <miguel1057> Dev_u_pper,  i tryied desabling and enabling the card and once i could make ping to the gatewat but only one packet the rest got lost
[06:41] <DigitalKiwi> Cosmo2: locate asoundrc
[06:41] <mobi-sheep> headrx: Remove your .ssh directory would be one solution -- but it's not the proper solution as it would remove your history of ssh keys per se. :)
[06:41] <darlek> miguel1057, this will depend on the card though.  what make and model?  ubuntu alternatives are madwifi instead of ath5k
[06:41] <gartral> Ap0llo: you.. shouldnt see a login:pass... are you in gnome now?
[06:41] <miguel1057> darlek,  where can i see the model?
[06:41] <darlek> miguel1057, lshw
[06:41] <Dev_u_pper> darlek: ubuntu uses ath5k by default
[06:41] <Ap0llo> gartral: yes im in gnome, im already logged in
[06:41] <losher> headrx: go into ~/.ssh/known_hosts and look for the line with the server's name on it. Delete just that line. Then retry the connection. ssh should then offer to add it automatically for you
[06:42] <headrx> Losher, ill try that, thanks
[06:42] <darlek> Dev_u_pper, correct.  I had it working but I went to madwifi for greater range and usability, frankly the ath5k isn't ready for prime time for a lot of cards
[06:42] <puller> shadeslayer and losher i am back
[06:43] <shadeslayer> puller: i see that your boot time is 19 secs...what more do you want ?? :)
[06:43] <puller> shadeslayer: i think the last thing it said before it went black was starting system tools but i am not 100% sure cause it happened really fast
[06:43] <gartral> Ap0llo: that's very strange.. alt-f2 should bring up a box you can run programs from
[06:43] <puller> shadeslayer: it doesnt really boot in 19 seconds more liek a minute and a half
[06:43] <Ap0llo> gartral: sorry i pressed ctrl+alt+f2
[06:43] <Ap0llo> gartral: i also did alt+f2 and nothing popped up
 : what is the company of your wireless card, and the model number?
[06:43] <Dev_u_pper> (we need to know in order to recommend a driver that will work)
[06:44] <miguel1057> Dev_u_pper,  realtek
[06:44] <miguel1057> darlek,  i thingk it will be difficult to find the model with tha command hehe
[06:44] <shadeslayer> puller: but the boot chart indicates 19 secs
[06:44] <losher> puller: I see the same as before. A long pause from the disk (30 seconds this time, which is actually better) due to disk timeouts.
[06:44] <puller> want me to take a video of the boot?
[06:44] <opop> piggers!
 : can you try this command:    sudo lspci  | grep -i realtek
[06:44] <shadeslayer> puller: oh... are you counting the time take to load the bios and the DE ?
[06:44] <opop> here come the pequeninos!  aaaaah!
[06:44] <puller> losher: not sure what you mean?
[06:44] <headrx> losher, that worked, thanks
[06:45] <puller> shadeslayer: maybe
[06:45] <KillerX> Well I poped in the Xubuntu cd and tried it and loved it, I went to go install it (after making a partition in vista) and I get a blank screen, I even tried to test it again and I get a black screen, my video card is a ATI radeon 2600 XT any thoughts on what I should do?
[06:45] <gartral> Ap0llo: ok... gnome-panel isn't running.. log out (alt-sys rq(printscreen)-k) and go to options>session type>Script
[06:45] <sc_> a
[06:45] <puller> shadeslayer: i used to be able to get into the whoel system in like 35ish seconds
[06:45] <shadeslayer> puller: try counting the time -bios load time (i.e. after grub)
[06:45] <miguel1057> Dev_u_pper, 08:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8101E/RTL8102E PCI Express Fast Ethernet controller (rev 01)
[06:45] <puller> shadeslayer: but durign the boot i get this long black pause
[06:45] <codezilla> Poo, poo, poo! Poopy poopy poo! Poo, poo, poo! Poopy poopy poo! Poo, poo, poo! Poopy poopy poo! Poo, poo, poo! Poopy poopy poo! Poo, poo, poo! Poopy poopy poo!
[06:45] <codezilla> Poo, poo, poo! Poopy poopy poo! Poo, poo, poo! Poopy poopy poo! Poo, poo, poo! Poopy poopy poo! Poo, poo, poo! Poopy poopy poo! Poo, poo, poo! Poopy poopy poo!
[06:45] <codezilla> Poo, poo, poo! Poopy poopy poo! Poo, poo, poo! Poopy poopy poo! Poo, poo, poo! Poopy poopy poo! Poo, poo, poo! Poopy poopy poo! Poo, poo, poo! Poopy poopy poo! Poo, poo, poo! Poopy poopy poo! Poo, poo, poo! Poopy poopy poo! Poo, poo, poo! Poopy poopy poo! Poo, poo, poo! Poopy poopy poo! Poo, poo, poo! Poopy poopy poo! v
[06:45] <sc_> aaaaa
[06:45] <FloodBot1> codezilla: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:45] <Dev_u_pper> wow :P
[06:45] <puller> losher: what were you talkign about you seem to know my long dark pause?
[06:45] <shadeslayer> !ops | codezilla
[06:46] <Dev_u_pper> codezilla: use paste.ubuntu.com  =D
[06:46] <sc_> 这个是是
[06:46] <bazhang> sc_, #ubuntu-cn for chinese
[06:46] <sc_> 这是什么阿？
[06:46] <darlek> miguel1057, oh really?  I get the same information with lspci so either is fine
[06:46] <shadeslayer> puller: you could use bum to remove some services,but just be _careful_
[06:46] <Ap0llo> gartral : Run Xclient script??
[06:46] <gartral> !cn > cn
[06:47] <bazhang> !cn > sc_
[06:47] <miguel1057> Dev_u_pper,  i think this problem is about support on ubuntu with this card last versions of ubuntu were the same problem
[06:47] <puller> shadeslayer: i am goign to take a video to show you what i mean about the blackness
[06:47] <sc_> 没人用中文么？
[06:47] <gartral> !cjinese > cn
[06:47] <bazhang> sc_ not here
[06:47] <shadeslayer> puller: maybe you have a vga option in boot line? could you pastebin the menu.lst
 : unfortunately, that is the description of your realtek ethernet card (physical network connections) -- we need to know the company name of your wireless card.  If you are unsure, go to terminal, and type:    sudo lspci        , and then paste the output to paste.ubuntu.com, and we can help you identify it
[06:48] <nickolaus> I am unable to view/share files from my windows computer to my ubuntu 9.04 computer
[06:48] <gartral> !chinese > cn
[06:48] <shadeslayer> -_-
[06:48] <miguel1057> i can get connected to wireless networks that dont have encryptions and it works good but not witth they have encryptions hehe
[06:48] <bazhang> sc_ /join #ubuntu-cn
[06:48] <sc_>  sc_ /join #ubuntu-cn
[06:48] <digdeep> sc_: join #ubuntu-cn
[06:48] <losher> puller: #[ 25.484074] eth1: no IPv6 routers present [   54.804086] ata1.00: exception Emask 0x0 SAct 0x7 SErr 0x0 action 0x6 frozen See these two lines? I think eth1 is trying to bring up ipv6. I seem to recall this slows down 9.04 booting. Try http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1134334
[06:48] <gartral> Ap0llo: yes
[06:48] <Dev_u_pper> !samba | nickolaus
[06:48] <darlek> miguel1057, yes, ath5k was horrible in Ibex as well.  That's when I used madwifi.  However if your card is under ndiswrapper you can install it from synaptic.  I'll check google if it matches your card
[06:49] <bazhang> sc_ you are in there already. speak english here only
[06:49] <Ap0llo> gartral: ok i logged in
[06:49] <nickolaus> Dev_u_pper samba is in order.
[06:49] <miguel1057> darlek,  i didnt need to use ndiswrapper the driver was detected and installed automatically when i installed ubuntu on my laptop
[06:49] <Dev_u_pper> darlek :we cannot infer that miguel1057 even uses a wireless card with an atheros chipset.  We need to know what card he has first.  For all we know, he may have a new intel card.
[06:49] <Ap0llo> gartral: i see nothing again just like in regular gnome
[06:50] <shadeslayer> i get a crash on starting amarok : kbuildsycoca4 crashed
[06:50] <gartral> Ap0llo: very strange.. hit ctrl-alt-f2 and log in, and type gnome-panel --replace
[06:51] <pepito_> what can i use to add and remove songs from my video ipod?
[06:51] <xyon1> Hi there...
[06:51] <gartral> and hit ctrl-alt-f7 to come back
[06:51] <SandGorgon> is the "sun-java6-jre" package in jaunty amd64, compatible with 64-bit architecture ?
[06:51] <miguel1057> Dev_u_pper,  http://paste.ubuntu.com/194022/
[06:51] <bazhang> pepito_, which generation? banshee works here
[06:51] <Ap0llo> gartral: cannot open display: Run 'gnome-panel --help' to see a full list of available command line options
[06:52] <xyon1> Anyone clued up on the USB mobile broadband things?
[06:52] <aata> I think my install is borked. it keeps on booting up into safe graphics mode. I'm running 8.04 and I don't have a graphics card. just the integrated motherboard graphics. no matter what I do I can't boot into a normal resolution! help!
[06:52] <digdeep> pepito: songbird is an option
[06:52] <pepito_> its a video ipod 30gb dont know what generation it is
[06:52] <puller> shadeslayer: ok video didnt work
[06:52] <bazhang> sudo apt-get install banshee pepito_ and give it a try
[06:52] <DigitalKiwi> gtkpod is great
[06:52] <darlek> miguel1057, yes and it's not working.  as I've explained the ath5k isn't great for every card and can work better with ndiswrapper or madwifi.  I have a link here:  http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/Networking/NDISwrapper_for_RTL8180_mini_HOWTO    Note though that you can install ndiswrapper from the synaptic manager in System Admin
[06:52] <DigitalKiwi> pepito_: ^
[06:52] <puller> losher: did u have anymore ideas about that long black pause?
[06:52] <pepito_> ok will give banshee a try
[06:53] <``y7> is "move" equivalent to "cut" in ubuntu?
[06:53] <aata> pepito_ banshee is amazing.
[06:53] <gartral> Ap0llo: very strange.. hit ctrl-alt-f2 and log in, and type gnome-panel --replace --display 0:7
[06:53] <gartral> ``y7: yes
[06:53] <xyon1> ``y7: CTRL+X works for it. so I'd say yes.
[06:53] <``y7> does ctrl+v work for pasting?
[06:53] <pepito_> currently installing banshee. thanks guys
[06:53] <miguel1057> darlek,  well i think i will have to try with ndiswrapper if i cant make this work ok
[06:53] <xyon1> ``v7 : Yes.
[06:54] <darlek> miguel1057, My card as well is detected by ubuntu by default, but I use madwifi to connect to get 11g and a more stable connection.  The realtek card appears to work with ndiswrapper, hence the suggestion.  Of course do what you feel is right for your situation
[06:54] <``y7> what's the shortcut for copy?
[06:54] <gartral> ctrl-c
[06:54] <xyon1> `y7: CTRL+C
[06:54] <Ap0llo> gartral: cannot open display: 0:7
[06:54] <``y7> ctrl+c ends the process... in terminals anyways ;(
 : this is very strange... i do not see a wireless card in that list.
[06:54] <pepito_> is there a yahoo messenger for ubuntu?
[06:54] <puller> shadeslayer: whats the deal with this bum thing?
[06:54] <xyon1> In terminal use CTRL+SHIFT+C
[06:54] <DigitalKiwi> pidgin pepito_
[06:54] <miguel1057> Dev_u_pper,  i know but now im using the wireless card
[06:54] <``y7> rgr that, thx
[06:54] <losher> puller: Just this one about ipv6 possibly slowing boot in 9.04. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1134334
[06:54] <Ap0llo> is it of any help that i installed a 64bit os version
[06:54] <xyon1> and CTRL+SHIFT+V to paste.
[06:54] <aata> anyone have any advice about the safe graphics mode problem?
[06:54] <gartral> !im | pepito_
[06:54] <miguel1057> Dev_u_pper,  is there another way to know the model?
[06:54] <losher> !ipv6
[06:54] <puller> losher: is there anythign i can do about it?
 : is your wireless card a usb wireless card?
[06:55] <darlek> Dev_u_pper, miguel1057 is you use lshw, it will probably show the card as Not Assigned or something like that.  Thus showing if the card is in fact enabled.
[06:55] <gartral> Ap0llo: shouldn't matter here
[06:55] <xyon1> Anyone know why my mobile broadband connection is so intermittent? It's not signal related, this is all I know.
[06:55] <miguel1057> Dev_u_pper,  no im in a laptop its a normal wireless card integrated
[06:55] <gartral> Ap0llo: is this a fresh install?
[06:55] <losher> puller: that thread has instructions for turning off ipv6. You've nothing to lose (unless you need ipv6).
[06:56] <pepito_> but pidgin doesnt support webcam and photosharing
[06:56] <puller> what is ipv6?
[06:56] <Ap0llo> gartral: i used the alternative iso because i have an LVM based partion in regards to /home
[06:56] <miguel1057> darlek,  im using the wireless card to have internet in this moment
[06:56] <miguel1057> but im in a network that dont have encryption i said
[06:56] <Dev_u_pper> excellent idea darlek.  <miguel1057> : can you use paste.ubuntu.com to show us the output of the command:    sudo lshw
[06:56] <puller> losher: what is ipv6?
[06:56] <miguel1057> sure
[06:57] <gartral> pepito_: no, there isn't support yet, but here working on it, but I don't know of an advanced YIM client for linux
[06:57] <KillerX> hmmm anyone help? I know its a driver problem but how can I install my driver when i dont have ubuntu installed?
[06:57] <darlek> miguel1057, I see, so it's just not taking wpa but otherwise on in ubuntu
[06:57] <bazhang> KillerX, that doesn't make sense
[06:58] <Ap0llo> gartral: and i did the same installation as i did with previous OSes till this LILO bootup option came infront of me buut i dont think thats the problem
[06:58] <losher> puller: An alternative, supposed improvement to the regular communications protocols that hasn't really caught on...
[06:58] <pepito_> ok thanks guys. ill just reboot and use windows when u i need ym :D
[06:58] <KillerX> bazhang  I poped in the Xubuntu cd and tried it and loved it, I went to go install it (after making a partition in vista) and I get a blank screen, I even tried to test it again and I get a black screen, my video card is a ATI radeon 2600 XT any thoughts on what I should do?
[06:58] <miguel1057> Dev_u_pper, http://paste.ubuntu.com/194025/
[06:58] <daniel-bato> hi guys
[06:58] <xyon2> As I mentioned.... intermittent internet connection. It's quite annoying.
[06:58] <bazhang> KillerX, the alternate cd, using bootoptions, bad iso (check md5) bad burn (check disk integrity)
[06:59] <gartral> Ap0llo: go back to your VT and type ps aux | gnome-panel
[06:59] <daniel-bato> does any one knows anything about package to cloak ip addresses?
[06:59] <miguel1057> darlek,  well i dont know if i can say that because i could get connected in the network typing the wpa key and i was giving me ip address but i never could go to a website or ping the gateway
[06:59] <Ap0llo> gartral: VT??
[06:59] <bazhang> !bootoptions | KillerX
[06:59] <gartral> !vt
[06:59] <bazhang> !md5 > KillerX
[06:59] <puller> losher: ok tryign that brb
[06:59] <KillerX> bazhang I read somewhere to update my drivers via windows (i donno why but I did) and still nothing, I donno why it would work once and then my screen black the next time
[06:59] <gartral> Ap0llo: the cttrl=alt-fn screens
[07:00] <KillerX> hmmm ok im gonna check, thanks guys for your help
[07:00] <Ap0llo> oh im still in that
[07:00] <bazhang> KillerX, no way to update from windows
[07:00] <Ap0llo> gartral: cannot open display
[07:00] <gartral> Ap0llo: ps aux | grep gnome-panel
[07:00] <brian_> so i installed a variation of 9.04 on my eee s101, and my wifi won't connect to any secure networks after i suspend. i was thinking there should be a way to stop/start the wpa_supplicant module on suspend/resume, but i haven't the slightest idea how. can anyone enlighten me?
[07:00] <bazhang> brian_, which variation
[07:01] <miguel1057> Dev_u_pper,  i have to go now im having problems with my wife hehe i will check this tomorrow miguelangelfelix@hotmail.com is my email if u wanna help me thanks a lot
[07:01] <brian_> bazhang: crunchbanglinux, lite edition
[07:01] <miguel1057> darlek,  thanks men
[07:01] <miguel1057> c ya
[07:01] <bazhang> brian_, crunchbang is supported in #crunchbang not here
[07:01] <losher> daniel-bato: never heard of one. The only way I know of to 'cloak' ip addresses is to use a anonymous proxy, like YouHide.com
[07:01] <heatmzzr> Can anyone help me with xboxdrv-linux-0.4.6.tar.bz2 ??? I dont know how to get it working..... (complete newbie)
[07:01] <darlek> miguel1057, no problem
[07:01] <Ap0llo> gartral: <name> 4334 0.0 0.0 7524 896 tty2   S+  02:00  0:00 grep gnome-panel
[07:01] <gartral> brian_: /j #crunchbang
[07:01] <KillerX> bazhang wow thanks for that site totally bookmarking that
[07:02] <puller> losher: that seemed to make the blackness much short
[07:02] <xyon2> Anyone help with mobile broadband?
[07:02] <xyon2> Vague question, I know...
[07:02] <bazhang> KillerX, also /msg ubottu alternate for link
[07:02] <losher> puller: dmesg again, please....
[07:02] <puller> losher: i know boot in around 45-50 seconds, think i can trim that anymore?
[07:02] <puller> ok
[07:02] <KillerX> ok thanks
[07:02] <brian_> bazhang: yeah, chat was dead over there. i just figured someone would know how to stop the wpa_supplicant in the suspend script and start it again in the resume script here...
[07:02] <Dev_u_pper> darlek : aww... we almost had it :)
[07:02] <KillerX> im off to see if this works
[07:02] <gartral> Ap0llo: that confims that gnome-panel isn't running.. OK.. type sudo apt-get reinstall gnome-panel
[07:02] <darlek> Dev_u_pper, I think I was closer!!
[07:02] <puller> losher: http://pastebin.ca/1457465
[07:03] <Dev_u_pper> darlek : i was thinking he may have had a broadcom driver with a buggy antennae power control... it happens sometimes with newer cards
[07:03] <darlek> Dev_u_pper, ... ;)
[07:03] <``y7> anybody know why eth0 can ping any machine behind the router, but it cannot ping yahoo.com: http://pastebin.com/d6dc82db   ? additional info: my default gateway is 192.168.1.1
[07:03] <Ap0llo> E: invalid operation reinstall
[07:03] <awewe_narsis> ...................
[07:03] <paulo> i have the same problems with broadcom
[07:03] <Ap0llo> gartral: E: invalid operation reinstall
[07:03] <puller> losher: let me know what u see when ur done looking at dmesg
[07:04] <paulo> my installation does not seem to detect my bcm4311 card
[07:04] <darlek> Dev_u_pper, I see.  I was thinking how ath5k hates my orinoco proxim card since Ibex and how I finangled madwifi to restore it back to a fully functional card
[07:04] <gartral> Ap0llo: sorry sudo apt-get -f
[07:04] <Dev_u_pper> darlek, yes, madwifi sometimes covers ath5k ... it is still in its ' infancy in 2.6.27
[07:05] <Myrtti> !id | awewe_narsis
[07:05] <Dev_u_pper> darlek: forgive me, baslphemy... i have used ubuntu's name in vain... 2.6.28 :P
[07:05] <darlek> Dev_u_pper, ndiswrapper an option of course for vista drivers.  Ath5k is obviously the future, but it's not quite up to the support level of madwifi ...  oh man .27 I hated... I even tried my own custom kernel but madwifi saved me ;)
[07:05] <noUTF8atconsole> What's the problem with UTF-8 and the Ubuntu's console?
[07:05] <Ap0llo> gartral: then what it only shows me options and it says this apt has super cow powers
[07:06] <Myrtti> noUTF8atconsole: there is no problem ;-) elaborate.
[07:06] <puller> shadeslayer: what can i shut off with bum
[07:06] <losher> puller: from dmesg, I still see a pause after eth1. Do you use that interface?
[07:06] <noUTF8atconsole> Myrtti, can you read this? ããããçççç?
[07:06] <Dev_u_pper> darlek : well, i cannot say that i have parteken completely, I use gentoo to support/develop for all other platforms ... it makes dealing with the interdependencies and awkward version control actually manageable ;)
[07:06] <puller> losher: what do u mean by that interface?
[07:07] <losher> puller: how many ethernets do you have on your laptop?
[07:07] <faryshta> somebody knows where to get the drivers to get injection on atheros cards?
[07:07] <noUTF8atConsole> Damn... <CTRL>+K is not a good idea...
[07:07] <Guiri> Any idea why sudo do-release-upgrade yields no upgrades found? I'm on 8.04
[07:07] <puller> losher: like places to plug in ethernet cables?
[07:07] <losher> puller: yeah?
[07:07] <noUTF8atConsole> Its simple insane to make UTF-8 works at console...
[07:08] <heatmzzr> Can anyone help me with xboxdrv-linux-0.4.6.tar.bz2 ??? I dont know how to get it working..... (complete newbie) Anyone got the time to give me a hand???
[07:08] <Myrtti> noUTF8atConsole: it looked like a with ~ on top and c with the hook at the bottom
[07:08] <puller> losher: i am runnign on wireless but i have one port to plug in a cable
[07:08] <gartral> Ap0llo: sounds too me like that cd may not have burned correctly
[07:08] <``y7> anybody know why eth0 can ping the router, but it cannot ping yahoo.com: http://pastebin.com/d419f9668 ????
[07:08] <Ap0llo> could be so
[07:08] <noUTF8atConsole> Maybe reinstalling, just like the Crap OS...
[07:08] <gartral> ``y7: does your router have a firewal?
[07:08] <gartral> ``y7: does your router have a firewall?
[07:08] <Ap0llo> gartral: ill do a re-install tomorrow
[07:08] <``y7> yes gartral it does.
[07:09] <heatmzzr> Can anyone help me with xboxdrv-linux-0.4.6.tar.bz2 ??? I dont know how to get it working..... (complete newbie) Anyone got the time to give me a hand??? I tried to type ./xboxdrv but got a msg.. "no such file or directory"
[07:09] <Ap0llo> gartral quick question what is the command to disable compiz all together
[07:09] <gartral> Ap0llo: you'll have to reburn the cd, or you may end up in the same boat again
[07:09] <``y7> however, 192.168.1.101 is allowed to go outbound
[07:09] <puller> losher: so is there a way to get rid of the pause?
[07:09] <losher> puller: Sorry, I'm out of time tonight. It's 11pm here. We've made a ton of progress
[07:09] <gartral> Ap0llo: metacity --replace
[07:09] <puller> yea
[07:09] <darlek> Dev_u_pper, well, at least you're familiar with drivers and compiling
[07:09] <Ap0llo> gartral: you think its safe to burn at slow speed or at max speed to be sure it burns correctly
[07:09] <darlek> !jp | noUTF8atConsole
[07:10] <paulo> anyone who has a Compaq f572us using 9.04 having problems with wireless lspci does not seem to detect mine
[07:10] <noUTF8atConsole> Anyone here that uses BASH can read and write the "extraterrestrial" characters that Ubuntu developers doesn't make any sense about it?
[07:10] <xyon2> heatmzzr: Have you unpacked it?
[07:10] <darlek> noUTF8atConsole, do you see the japanese?
[07:10] <tyfovo> how can i change the aspell language?
[07:10] <gartral> Ap0llo: as slow as your drive will possibly allow, trust me
[07:10] <Myrtti> noUTF8atConsole: huh?
[07:10] <noUTF8atConsole> darlek, just some really strange figures...
[07:10] <Ap0llo> gartral: i figured that, thank you for your help
[07:11] <noUTF8atConsole> darlek, nothing at all... Just #ubuntu-jp I could read.
[07:11] <aata> can anyone help me ubuntu keeps booting up into safe graphics mode. I've tried everything nothing works!
[07:11] <gartral> Ap0llo: np, also, when you download the iso, verify the md5, and then varify the CD from boot options
[07:11] <Myrtti> noUTF8atConsole: figures? do you mean kanji?
[07:11] <``y7> gartral: yes, i have a fw on my router, but eth0's ip address is opened up and can ping out on other computers... just not on my ubuntu one ;(
[07:11] <mobi-sheep> noUTF8atConsole: Did you ran md5sum before you burned the iso?
[07:11] <noUTF8atConsole> darlek, but I bet that you are in X11... Go to console and show me those chars again...
[07:11] <Ap0llo> gartral: on the main screen when the cd is first displayed correct?
[07:12] <darlek> noUTF8atConsole, ok, i'll try it out
[07:12] <gartral> Ap0llo: correct
[07:12] <Ap0llo> alright
[07:12] <Ap0llo> thanks for your help
[07:12] <oenone> help me i want to print in my ubuntu 64bit but i cant install my printer driver
[07:12] <noUTF8atConsole> Myrtti, I know what's Kanji.  If a square with a letter 'A' inside is a Kanji, ok. I saw it.
[07:13] <gartral> ``y7: set the router so your Ubuntu comp is the "DMZ" system..
[07:13] <error404notfound> is there an web interface for jabbered?
[07:14] <raylu> !ftp
[07:14] <noUTF8atConsole> First q.: what package is to use? 'kbd', 'console-tools', 'console-setup', 'console-data'.... What's the matter with the developers? Why doesn't make a simple package 'console-utf8', some kind of this...
[07:14] <cobolfoo> www.crazynoid.com, a game that work under linux
[07:14] <noUTF8atConsole> That's why Debian have more than 20,000 packages...
[07:15] <``y7> gartral, did that and i get: ping: unknown host yahoo.com
[07:15] <shuttleworth> jbakker
[07:16] <noUTF8atConsole> 20,000 packages and none is capable of behave decent. Always in 'dependencies' problems with another eight....
[07:16] <richj> y7 have you specified dns settings in /etc/resolv.conf?
[07:16] <shuttleworth> that's why debian have more than 20,000 packages...
[07:16] <``y7> richj, negative
[07:16] <NoWifi> can some help with my wifi ubuntu dectected it once when i tried to install the driver i had jockey error
[07:16] <shuttleworth> gartral, did that and i get: ping: unknown host yahoo.com
[07:16] <noUTF8atConsole> Seriously, is a PITA....
[07:16] <shuttleworth> debian is top quality, that much is top quality, that much is top quality, that much is certain
[07:16] <richj> cmdline: cat /etc/resolv.conf
[07:16] <darlek> noUTF8atConsole, no luck, I can run anthy via uim-toolbar-gtk for gui input but can't type into console in Japanese
[07:16] <shuttleworth> y7 have you specified dns settings in /etc/resolv.conf?
[07:16] <``y7> shuttleworth, no.
[07:17] <MikeChelen> noUTF8atConsole, what are you having troubles with? the package manager should help to include the proper dependencies
[07:17] <digdeep> how do I format my ipod on ubuntu/kubuntu
[07:17] <darlek> noUTF8atConsole, not bad considering it's free and no one got paid ;)  seriously, aptitude instead of apt-get handles dependencies pretty well
[07:17] <``y7> shuttleworth, richj, in /etc/resolv.conf, i have 2 lines: nameserver 68.238.112.12 and name server 68.238.0.12. should i change those to 4.2.2.2 and 4.2.2.1?
[07:17] <noUTF8atConsole> shuttleworth, that's quality?! Wake up...
[07:17] <oenone> help
[07:17] <richj> digdeep, format with which filesystem?
[07:17] <oenone> !help
[07:17] <LuYu> does ubuntu even have a resolv.conf file now?
[07:17] <LuYu> i get a directory
[07:18] <richj> y7, I recommend setting them to opendns.org ip / check their website
[07:18] <noUTF8atConsole> darlek, is just aptitude that freaks me out... With synaptics nothing wrong.
[07:18] <NoWifi> !ping
[07:18] <``y7> richj, roger that. ty
[07:18] <digdeep> richj: it is an old ipod shuffle, I guess it is fat or fat32
[07:18] <LuYu> forget that
[07:18] <LuYu> its there
[07:18] <bazhang> digdeep, you wish to use rockbox on there?
[07:18] <noUTF8atConsole> But now, in console, no way to make simple chars work.  A HIGH QUALITY DISTRO!!! Helll yeah....    Gentoo is 10 times better that this shit...
[07:19] <richj> digdeep, plug the ipod in, check cmdline: sudo fdisk -l and you should see a device with the same capacity as your ipod
[07:19] <bazhang> noUTF8atConsole, watch the language please
[07:19] <noUTF8atConsole> bazhang, sorry.... I'm really mad with all this.
[07:19] <DigitalKiwi> so use gentoo
[07:19] <Myrtti> noUTF8atConsole: have you filed a bug report yet?
[07:19] <bazhang> noUTF8atConsole, no need for the language nonetheless
[07:19] <richj> digdeep, make a note of the device name, /dev/sdb1 etc. cmdline: sudo gparted
[07:19] <NoWifi> !help
[07:19] <DigitalKiwi> nobody is forcing  you to use ubuntu, are they?
[07:20] <oenone> help me
[07:20] <oenone> please
[07:20] <noUTF8atConsole> So: kbd, console-tools, console-data, console-setup. Choose one...
[07:20] <Myrtti> DigitalKiwi: you're provoking now...
[07:20] <alicia> hi
[07:20] <oenone> i wiuld really l to install my printer in ubuntu but i dont have drivers for it
[07:20] <Myrtti> alicia: hi.
[07:20] <DigitalKiwi> he said himself that gentoo is better :/
[07:20] <alicia> hi shuttleworth
[07:20] <Myrtti> alicia: he's muted.
[07:20] <richj> oenone, model number?
[07:20] <noUTF8atConsole> DigitalWiki, of course not, man.  I just want to WRITE at CONSOLE.  Is that so hard to make?
[07:20] <alicia> why Myrtti ?
[07:21] <oenone> hello
[07:21] <tokyoahead> h guys...I need tomcat for an application I want to use. Now on several pages on howto install tomcat on ubuntu I am told that the version from the repositories does not work properly and that I should odwnload and install another version from the server. However these how-to's are from early 2008... whats the right way to do it?
[07:21] <alicia> please Myrtti , tell me why did my fried was muted
[07:21] <Myrtti> alicia: how about you two join #ubuntu-ops?
[07:21] <noUTF8atConsole> Ã
[07:22] <NoWifi> just down load from apache and extrat the zip file
[07:22] <``y7> shuttleworth, richj, changing the dns ips worked. thx for the help.  also, i was having issues earlier with ubuntu acting as my router/firewall (it kept dropping my ip every 20-24 hours and it wouldn't renew it until i called my ISP to have them reset my ONT (verizon fios)). could this have been the problem to that too?
[07:22] <alicia> hey, shuttleworth helped that one
[07:22] <noUTF8atConsole> ¹²²³£³¢¢£¬ðđ®đđđđðđðßđðđßðđ
[07:22] <alicia> i dont know why did they muted him
[07:22] <darlek> noUTF8atConsole, ok, so I can read in console just fine... checking input again... brb
[07:22] <Myrtti> alicia: why don't you and your friend join #ubuntu-ops to discuss this?
[07:22] <richj> y7, i dont know
[07:22] <alicia> ok thanks
[07:23] <NoWifi>  tokyoahead: i usually just download the zip file and extract tomcat and under the tomcat/bin run startup.sh
[07:23] <richj> y7, you can usually renew an ip by changing the mac address of your router / nic, whatever is connected closest to the modem.
[07:23] <noUTF8atConsole> darlek, if you can read, then you can write, isn't this logical?
[07:24] <noUTF8atConsole> darlek, but I can't do neither one...
[07:25] <darlek> noUTF8atConsole, yes.. i don't generally use terminal, but in rails I can see my Japanese text okay.  I use another gui editor so the anthy input system works that way
[07:25] <Myrtti> noUTF8atConsole: have you filed in a bug report? it might be a bug
[07:25] <noUTF8atConsole> darlek, I just want to know what packages do you have to console "data". kbd, console-tools, whatelse?
[07:26] <darlek> noUTF8atConsole, nothing special, just the gnome terminal as per default install, and the SCIM Setup from System Prefs, SCIM Setup etc
[07:26] <noUTF8atConsole> darlek, it's simple, but the information keeps in s e c r e t...
[07:26] <darlek> noUTF8atConsole, I use scite or the gnome editor and that works in both languages
[07:26] <noUTF8atConsole> darlek, man... I'm talking about 100% command line, shell, bash...
[07:27] <darlek> noUTF8atConsole, I understand the question
[07:27] <noUTF8atConsole> darlek, in xorg I can write in arabic if I wish. That's not the problem.
[07:27] <darlek> noUTF8atConsole, yes I know
[07:30] <noUTF8atConsole> darlek, and then sometimes come someone and simply: "google it!". Oh yeah, I will look to tutorials that's from 2000 or worse... Is just about freedom of INFORMATION.  This not happens in GNU+Linux community...  Information is S E C R E T.
[07:30] <ravious> anyone know how to mount a cifs share and not have to deal with user permissions on it?
[07:30] <Myrtti> noUTF8atConsole: you're just ranting now.
[07:30] <ravious> from fstab*
[07:31] <richj> noUTF8atConsole, what characters are causing the problem?
[07:31] <allred> anyone know how to unload and reload a module when suspending and resuming?
[07:31] <noUTF8atConsole> Myrtti, I don't know what means 'to rant'.
[07:32] <darlek> noUTF8atConsole, if you don't have the patience then don't expect me to keep helping you.  I'm actually interested in the problem though so I'll keep looking for a solution.  I don't see why you need to be belittling
[07:32] <bazhang> !attitude | noUTF8atConsole
[07:33] <richj> allred, modprobe loads modules
[07:33] <darlek> noUTF8atConsole, well, I like Google and I like finding things out, so that's what I'll do.  You're lucky I'm trying to learn a language haha
[07:33] <richj> allred, i have forgotten the opposite 1 sec
[07:33] <noUTF8atConsole> darlek, maybe 'cause I'm more than 2 hours trying this thing write a word in portuguese...  Sorry for be so stupid.
[07:33] <darlek> noUTF8atConsole, that was again not what was said!
[07:33] <richj> allred, rmmod
[07:34] <darlek> brb...
[07:34] <allred> richj, ok, and i put those in suspend.h and resume.h?
[07:34] <richj> allred, you will need to use those commands as a superuser, so add sudo before, eg, sudo rmmod module_name
[07:34] <richj> allred, what is the full problem>?
[07:34] <noUTF8atConsole> darlek, just forget about it... I'll install a minimal server config, than, MAYBE, I'l have my chars...
[07:35] <noUTF8atConsole> darlek, I'm going to sleep. It's 03:34 a.m. here... Thanks for the help.
[07:35] <oenone> help
[07:35] <noUTF8atConsole> darlek, but this thing really freaks me out....
[07:36] <allred> richj, basically, i want to unload my wifi's security module at suspend, then re-enable at resume. my wifi is doing that, so when i resume, it can't connect to any secure networks because it's still trying to use the wifi from before the suspension.
[07:38] <Yuretsz> does anybody know how to control banshee from console?
[07:38] <allred> richj, did you get that?
[07:39] <richj> allred, yes
[07:39] <richj> allred, i'm just looking at /etc/acpi/suspend.d/70-modules-unload.sh
[07:40] <allred> richj, ok, cool. if it helps, my security module is wpa_supplicant, i believe.
[07:40] <darlek> noUTF8atConsole SCIM Setup has this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SCIM
[07:40] <darlek> !scim
[07:41] <richj> allred, I think thats the place to unload the module, so adding a line like rmmod wpa_supplicant should remove it before suspend
[07:42] <allred> richj, ok, and i would enable at resume how?
[07:42] <Hilikus> hey guys, any suggestions for a backup program that will schedule backups (daemon) and backup itself and a windows client remotely?
[07:42] <richj> allred, and add modprobe wpa_suplicant to /etc/acpi/resume.d/35-modules-load.sh
[07:42] <richj> allred, I cannot test this myself
[07:42] <darlek> !ubottu | darlek
[07:43] <darlek> !backup | Hilikus
[07:43] <allred> richj. no problem, my install is pretty new, i'm not worried about breaking it. :) lemme try that out real quick. it's on my lappy, and i'm on my desktop so i can keep you updated during the process
[07:45] <richj> allred, just to confirm add rmmod wpa_supplicant and modprobe wpa_supplicant
[07:46] <QOOK> How to find the file in compression file with use CM?
[07:47] <allred> richj, right. added the rmmod command to the modules script in suspend.d and added the modprobe command to the modules script in resume.d. testing now
[07:47] <darlek> QOOK, what's CM?  less can view inside a compressed tarball and show the list of files
[07:48] <darkest_night> hi guys
[07:49] <darkest_night> does any1 of u have a 64-bit ubuntu?
[07:49] <QOOK> CM is file manager with run terminal
[07:49] <richj> darkest_night, yes
[07:50] <darkest_night> richj, good, i have a problem with it. when i want to shut the computer down, it does it normally till the ubuntu-logo is gone.... then there is only a black screen, but it doesn't do anything... do u know why this could be?
[07:50] <allred> richj, very weird. i connected to the network almost immediately, but my out put says "ERROR: Module wpa_supplicant does not exist in /proc/modules", then it says "FATAL: Module wpa_supplicant not found." strange that it wouldn't work, yet work.
[07:51] <LawlZ> alguém fala português aqui?
[07:51] <Myrtti> !pt | LawlZ
[07:51] <richj> allred, i suspected that would happen. It means the module was already loaded and unloaded - i think
[07:52] <richj> darkest_night, the computer doesnt power off?
[07:52] <darkest_night> richj, nope
[07:52] <allred> richj, i thought so too, so i ran those commands in a terminal with wifi connected, and got the same messages.
[07:53] <richj> allred, cmdline: modprobe -l              will list all modules
[07:53] <richj> allred, check if its in there
[07:54] <richj> darkest_night, what vs of ubuntu are you using?
[07:54] <darkest_night> richj, jaunty64
[07:55] <SandGorgon> is there any way to change the size and spacing of desktop icons in ubuntu - for example like the mac ?
[07:56] <allred> richj, nope. my system monitor says it's /sbin/wpa_supplicant
[07:56] <lanoxx> !kernel
[07:56] <darlek> SandGorgon, probably under System Preferences, Control Centre or Appearance
[07:56] <lanoxx> !kernel ppa
[07:56] <richj> darkest_night, sounds like an acpi problem.
[07:57] <darkest_night> richj, and how can i solve it?
[07:57] <lanoxx> im looking for a ppa which has the 2.6.30 kernel for jaunty
[07:57] <lanoxx> !kernel-ppa
[07:57] <darlek> !ppa
[07:57] <richj> darkest_night, cmdline: gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:58] <richj> darkest_night, can you post the line you use to boot, for me it is: kernel		/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.28-11-generic root=UUID=3519805c-6c92-4a33-b2bc-eb6b5ba195f2 ro quiet splash
[07:58] <richj> allred, any luck using the /sbin/ prefix?
[08:00] <allred> richj, using the lines "sudo rmmod" or "sudo modprobe /sbin/wpa_supplicant" gives same errors.
[08:00] <darkest_night> richj, hm.... can't find the line....
[08:00] <gartral> ``y7: only way to know for sure is too see if your box drops the IP again
[08:01] <wzssyqa> Alice1: hello
[08:01] <xyon2> Anyone know how to stop a Huwaii mobile modem from cutting out?
[08:01] <Alice1> Hello,everyone
[08:01] <xyon2> Huwaei, even...
[08:01] <darkest_night> richj, without boot the line is here.... but not with it
[08:01] <richj> darkest_night, just the kernel line
[08:02] <darkest_night> richj, i shall post just the kernel line?
[08:02] <xyon2> keeps dropping off, annoying as hell.
[08:02] <andrew21> hello! i am running openssh on my ubuntu box behind a router, and i have port 22 forwarded to the box. but i can't seem to connect using my external ip address
[08:02] <headrx> apache2: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using wildwest.headrx.com for ServerName
[08:02] <richj> darkest_night, yes need to see if you have any special boot paramaters, like noacpi etc
[08:02] <darkest_night> richj, here it is: kernel		/vmlinuz-2.6.28-11-generic root=UUID=db9858d9-5a11-4049-bc65-2952f6843575 ro quiet splash
[08:03] <darlek> darkest_night, try pastebin then he can help you edit it online
[08:03] <mobi-sheep> What's the perfect command for one-time usage?  cron?  I'm looking to kill something at a given time.
[08:03] <darlek> !pastebin
[08:03] <darkest_night> dalek, what is pastebin?
[08:03] <darkest_night> ah^^
[08:04] <darlek> darkest_night, there's also !pastebinit but in this case the pastebin would be more useful for both of you to collaborate on editing the file
[08:04] <indus> gartral: hi hi hi
[08:04] <richj> darkest_night, seems to be this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/usplash/+bug/326988
[08:04] <headrx> when i try localhost, it doesnt work, but if i enter the ip addy, it works fine
[08:05] <xyon2> Huawei E160G if anyone knows how to help me.
[08:05] <Alice1> good afternoon
[08:05] <indus> gartral: iam sorry my internet got disrupted the other day all night
[08:05] <xcerca> whats a good way to test the performance on a computer in ubuntu ? i just got a new computer and i want to see what it can do
[08:05] <richj> darkest_night,  seems disabling splash resolves the problem
[08:05] <QOOK> [Q] as Windows, I want find the file of compression file. In Linux. How to?
[08:05] <allred> richj, using the lines "sudo rmmod" or "sudo modprobe /sbin/wpa_supplicant" gives same errors.
[08:05] <Myrtti> QOOK: huh?
[08:05] <richj> darkest_night, which means, remove splash from the kernel line in menu.lst
[08:06] <``Cube> hey, I got a question:
[08:06] <richj> allred, they do for me too
[08:06] <darkest_night> richj, only "splash" or "quiet splash" ?
[08:06] <gartral> indus: ahh, welcome bac, I'm sorry, but I can't remember what I was helping you with
[08:06] <headrx> anyone , setting up lamp, have it installed, but http://localhost/ doesnt work and the ip does
[08:06] <gartral> exit
[08:06] <gartral> oops
[08:06] <headrx> apache2: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using wildwest.headrx.com for ServerName
[08:06] <indus> gartral: cd rom not being detected
[08:06] <``Cube> im getting a new laptop, and ima but linux on it. onw if I wanna store music in a smart way, how would I do that? put everything in a folder called MUSIC and then programs like rhythmbox id point them there and they would find it?
[08:07] <gartral> indus: ahh yes... one sec
[08:07] <richj> allred, just reading http://linux.die.net/man/8/wpa_supplicant
[08:07] <bazhang> ``Cube, yes, in settings
[08:07] <cattellar> ``Cube,  make an additional partition and store it there on a folder called music
[08:07] <Gen2ly> You've never installed LInux before cube?
[08:07] <headrx> My question isnt off topic is it ? No ideas?
[08:07] <xyon3> Frelling thing.
[08:08] <indus> ``Cube: yes,there is an option called watch my library which adds any new files copied there
[08:08] <``Cube> I have, but I never used it, Gen2ly
[08:08] <darkest_night> well, cya later, i just reboot now... hope it works^^
[08:08] <``Cube> bazhang: alright, any other ideas and tips on how to store files the smart way on a netbook?
[08:08] <allred> richj, reading that, it looks like you can start it but not stop it. lol, that can't be right
[08:08] <gartral> indus: you said the CD rom was on the IDE cable? (fat one)
[08:09] <darlek> headrx, it would depend on the server program Apache etc.  ServerName section of the apache conf file
[08:09] <indus> gartral:yeah thin but wide
[08:09] <xyon3> anyone got a solution to a Huwaei E160G mobile broadband dongle cutting out? It just won't keep me connected for any length of time...
[08:09] <bazhang> ``Cube, I usually store the music on an external usb stick if the netbook has limited space such as eeepc 701 4G
[08:09] <headrx> Apache 2.2.11
[08:09] <darlek> !apache
[08:09] <richj> allred, seems i went about this all wrong
[08:09] <``Cube> bazhang: gotcha, though ill get the 1000he with a 160 gb hdd
[08:09] <headrx> darlek: Apache 2.2.11
[08:09] <Flamik> Hi everyone! I've probably encountered a bug (or I'm using Ubuntu in way it wasn't ment to), I've got dual-boot Ubuntu/WinXP, once I hibernate Ubuntu, do some work one XP, hibernate XP, and try to access data created in XP from Ubuntu, all I get is some random mess.
[08:10] <chronographer> Hello. My new Jaunty install is not cooperating with my os x macbook. I want to be able to easily browse shared folders, see the VNC shared screen and add the shared printer, but I can't. Any suggestions?
[08:10] <bazhang> ``Cube, depends on the size of your library then as that is big for most netbooks
[08:10] <allred> richj, oh? what's wrong?
[08:10] <gartral> indus: sudo lshw and pastebin the output (with | pastebinit, if you have that app)
[08:10] <darlek> !pastebinit
[08:11] <indus> gartral: sorry iam in work :P
[08:11] <indus> gartral: in evening i do it
[08:11] <MC_Kejml> Hello
[08:11] <indus> sorry
[08:11] <MC_Kejml> Can someone please help me with Z8 Encore! assembler ?
[08:11] <MC_Kejml> Pls ? :(
[08:11] <gartral> indus: you should think about setting up a vpn and ssh
[08:11] <darlek> wow assembler!
[08:11] <indus> gartral: hmm what do they do? u mean remote login??
[08:11] <``Cube> bazhang: yeah yeah. now, lets say I have my desktop, which is 1tb, and I got most of my music there, how would I let the programs know that they should look there? like, imagine this: I have a "virtual folder", which is basically a network-shared folder on my desktop. now, if im at home in my wifi range, my netbook sees it, and its there just like a normal folder. when im gone, its gone as well. would that be possible?
[08:11] <xyon3> Assembler, woo!
[08:12] <gartral> !ssh | indus
[08:12] <gartral> !vpn | indus
[08:12] <MC_Kejml> Y, assembler :) Pls, anyone ?
[08:12] <indus> gartral: i know ssh and use it for lan in work
[08:12] <richj> allred, try this line to stop wpa_supplicant: killall -q wpa_supplicant
[08:13] <bazhang> ``Cube, same network? ie nfs sharing or something along those lines? then sure that is possible
[08:13] <xyon3> nobody got any ideas for this mobile broadband thing? It's really doing my head in...
[08:13] <indus> gartral: hmm that doc is not clear
[08:13] <darkest_night> richj, wohoo, thx, now it works :)
[08:13] <mikorn2> Any feedback/comments on running KDE 4.2.4 on Ubuntu 8.04.... any issues I should be aware of?
[08:13] <bazhang> !nfs | ``Cube
[08:13] <richj> allred, the line to start it depends on the wireless device name, is it wlan0?
[08:13] <richj> darkest_night, glad i could help :)
[08:13] <indus> gartral: what does it do? vpn?
[08:13] <allred> richj, ok, worked like a charm. and yes, it is wlan0.
[08:13] <gartral> indus: you can set up an ssh server at home, and securly drop into the box from work and do these commands from work, seeing your home system's outout
[08:13] <kitenej> Whats the sound mixer binary for ubuntu?  So I can adjust the mic/mixer settings... I deleted the speaker icon
[08:13] <matthew> mathew
[08:13] <matthew> matthew
[08:13] <richj> allred, wpa_supplicant -Dwext -iwlan0 -Bw -c/etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf
[08:13] <richj> allred, i think :p
[08:13] <``Cube> bazhang: kk. I just mean like if im in the network, the folder is there, and I can open it just like any other folder. but when im not in my network, its gone.
[08:14] <indus> gartral: iam behind a router etc , so i need to open ports i believe? and firewalls?
[08:14] <xyon3> kitenej: alsamixer , if it's installed
[08:14] <gartral> indus: a virtual Personal Network allows you to see other computers over the internet as if they were connected by a hub, or switch
[08:14] <``y7> gartral, i'm going to see if it drops with another router. try that for a couple of days, because i've never had any issues with my old router. however, i do realize coincidences happen, so we'll see what goes down.
[08:14] <darlek> xyon3, try synaptic and ndiswrapper; this will use the microsoft/vista drivers for your modem if ubuntu isn't cooperating.  Check your hardwards with lshw from terminal, then see if ndiswrapper is compatible with it via google ... read up on ndiswrapper as well
[08:14] <allred> richj, it restarted itself...
[08:14] <indus> gartral: can i see your system too?
[08:14] <kitenej> quit
[08:14] <bazhang> ``Cube, so for traveling purpose (if you wish to conserve netbook disk space) you could also carry along a usb stick with your best tracks for example
[08:14] <darlek> !ndiswrapper
[08:15] <xyon3> darlek: thanks, will try
[08:15] <darlek> !ndiswrapper | xyon3
[08:15] <gartral> indus: on your hme side for SSH, you need to open port 22.. nothing needs too be open from your work as long as port 80 is open (which, obviously, if you can browse the web, it is)
[08:15] <gartral> ``y7: heh, yea
[08:15] <MC_Kejml> How am I suppposed to set a 3 ms dealy for a 1 MHZ frequency in Zilog Z8 Ecnore! ?
[08:15] <``Cube> bazhang: yeah yeah, I got that part. I just mean. if my desktop is in network range (if im in my wifi), I'd like to have a folder appear somewhere (lets say, my desktop), which I can access. if my desktop is not in range, it should be gone
[08:15] <indus> gartral: whats hme?
[08:15] <QOOK> Please recommend the specially file indexing program for liunx. And, I want this function => 'find the file of(in) compression file".
[08:15] <xyon3> Sorry, it keeps disconnecting me, if that was said before I probably missed it...
[08:16] <gartral> indus a typo, it was supposed to be "Home"
[08:16] <indus> gartral: sounds exciting,iam wondering if i can connect to my pc remote and play a game i have installed on it. is it even possible?
[08:16] <richj> brb
[08:17] <bazhang> ``Cube, sure if you set it up correctly using nfs or the like
[08:17] <andrew21> hello! i am running openssh on my ubuntu box behind a router, and i have port 22 forwarded to the box. but i can't seem to connect using my external ip address
[08:17] <Myrtti> andrew21: have you tried connecting from outside your lan?
[08:17] <gartral> indus: only if you have an extreamly fast uplink to the internet at home, and your office networking system doesnt limit traffic *at all*.. then yes.. minimally
[08:17] <``Cube> bazhang: alright. and its not like it's a totally extreme stunt that will require lots of tweaking?
[08:18] <bazhang> ``Cube, fairly straightforward and commonly done
[08:18] <``Cube> bazhang: now, look at this. in my music library, lets say the one on rhythmbox, id like to appear just some songs if im on the go, but all of the music I have when im home. how does that sound
[08:18] <bazhang> ``Cube, then make some playlists
[08:19] <``Cube> bazhang: my idea was that the library would DYNAMICALLY expand as soon as I enter my home network. get my idea?
[08:19] <gartral> indus: Im taking a random guess here and saying you're not a native english speaker, are you?
[08:20] <Cry__Baby> has anyone gotten an iLBC supported softphone to work with ubuntu?
[08:20] <gartral> ``Cube: make a VPN and that way as long as you have network you can see your home media
[08:20] <chronographer> can someone help me with avahi setup? can't ping my desktop from my laptop
[08:21] <bazhang> ``Cube, sure, you should play around with it, as I have nowhere near that size library :)
[08:21] <richj> allred, any luck?
[08:22] <allred> richj, it restarted itself when i did the command in a cmdline. but i added killall -q wpa_supplicant to the service stop script in suspend.d and it came back on almost immediately on resume.
[08:22] <un|matrix> does Jaunty have RLIMIT_RTPRIO ?
[08:22] <allred> richj, it being the wpa_supplicant service
[08:22] <``Cube> bazhang: haha okay :) and how would that vpn work?
[08:23] <richj> allred, is that the desired result?
[08:23] <bazhang> ``Cube, nfs share would be preferable to vpn I would surmise
[08:23] <``Cube> ah
[08:24] <allred> richj, pretty much, yeah. i figure that when the wi-fi re enables itself, it automatically calls wpa_supplicant, which creates errors when it suspends/resumes because wpa doesn't shut off. i think, anyway.
[08:24] <allred> richj, so we shut it off at suspend, and wifi calls it back up again upon resume. that's exactly what i wanted, actually. i'm loving it. thanks so much
[08:24] <richj> allred, awesome :)
[08:25] <gnufied> modules "type1" and "freetype" are not needed or what? On kubuntu install with Nvidia binary drivers, things seem to work and yet Xorg.log contains messages "failed to load module type1", "failed to load module freetype".
[08:26] <allred> richj, very awesome. :) thanks again, i'm off now
[08:28] <chronographer> does anyone know how to fix avahi? I can't see my desktop from my laptop. Anyone know what port to open?
[08:29] <cattellar> anybody knows how to put awesome or some other tiling wm on gnome?
[08:29] <richj> chronographer, is this link any help? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToZeroconf
[08:30] <chronographer> richj: thanks but I can connect using the IP of the desktop, but using the 'hostname.local' doesn't work
[08:30] <chronographer> It works from my desktop to my desktop, but not laptop to desktop.
[08:30] <naitoe> hi
[08:31] <richj> chronographer, laptop is ubuntu 9.04?
[08:31] <chronographer> no os x
[08:31] <chronographer> It worked fine from lappy to 8.10, but now 9.04 doesn't work
[08:31] <chronographer> This is a major annoyance!
[08:31] <mikorn2> Any feedback/comments on running KDE 4.2.4 on Ubuntu 8.04.... any issues I should be aware of?
[08:32] <richj> chronographer, check this out http://blog.ibeentoubuntu.com/2009/04/avahi-zeroconf-problem-with-ubuntu-904.html
[08:32] <mikorn2> !info kimpanel
[08:32] <chronographer> yeah I tried that =) I already googled it.
[08:32] <Cry__Baby> has anyone gotten an iLBC supported softphone to work with ubuntu?
[08:33] <mikorn2> !info ibus
[08:33] <jigp> looks for frankS2 and pangasinan
[08:34] <try2free> hi
[08:34] <try2free> anybody using squid with transparent proxy? can help me, please...
[08:34] <richj> chronographer, the issue is between jaunty and osx? where Interpid worked?
[08:34] <chronographer> osx-intrepid worked. osx-jaunty doesn't
[08:34] <chronographer> so the change is with ubuntu.
[08:35] <richj> chronographer, but jaunty to jaunty works?
[08:35] <chronographer> I don't know
[08:35] <richj> chronographer, did you change the jaunty name servers to open dns?
[08:35] <chronographer> hold on I'll see
[08:35] <chronographer> richj: chronographer, did you change the jaunty name servers to open dns? No.
[08:36] <richj> chronographer, the previous link suggested it as a solution
[08:36] <try2free> anyone can transparent proxy? can explain?
[08:36] <richj> chronographer, sudo gedit /etc/resolv.conf
[08:36] <chronographer> manual resolv,conf. 3 dns servers
[08:37] <chronographer> 1 router, 2 ISP, 3 ISP
[08:37] <richj> chronographer, the name servers are listed at http://www.opendns.org
[08:37] <jigp> try2free : whats the problem with your squid+ubuntu server?
[08:37] <chronographer> Ok hold on
[08:37] <try2free> i want set transparent proxy but always fail
[08:37] <l0nwlf_> my benq external 22'  monitor is not recognised properly by ubuntu, it's giving me 1600X900 while its capability is 1900*1080
[08:38] <try2free> jigp: i already try everywhere, please give some hints
[08:38] <l0nwlf_> i tried fedora11 yesterday and it recognised the monitor properly, what should i do ?
[08:39] <richj> l0nwlf_, cmdline: xrandr
[08:39] <chronographer> if I restart networking resolv.conf is reloaded right?
[08:39] <richj> chronographer, I believe so yes
[08:39] <richj> chronographer, sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[08:40] <l0nwlf_> richj : http://pastebin.com/m1e32b5ca
[08:41] <chronographer> richj: yes, it seems to have restarted resolv.conf
[08:41] <indus> gartral: depends on what you mean by native
[08:42] <richj> l0nwlf_, does the latest fedora use a new xorg? The pastebin shows xorg is seeing 1600 as you said
[08:42] <chronographer> hmm.. that seems to have fixed it. it was a DNS error. Thanks@
[08:42] <richj> chronographer, hehe :)
[08:43] <indus> gartral: does my english sound bad btw?
[08:43] <chronographer> although file sharing isn't magically working, I can see the vnc server fine
[08:43] <chronographer> gartral: you sound like you have an Australian accent mate
[08:44] <chronographer> =)
[08:44] <gartral> indus: not at all my friend :)
[08:44] <indus> gartral: no
[08:44] <l0nwlf_> richj: with fedora10 i used to get same 1600:900 just like ubuntu however i have no idea why fedora11 recognised my complete resolution :( , the model of monitor is benq 2220 HD
[08:45] <chronographer> oops I meant that to point at indus
[08:45] <gartral> chronographer: what makes you think that? I'm from America >.>
[08:45] <try2free> please help for setting transparent proxy
[08:45] <chronographer> indus: you sound like you have an Australian accent mate
[08:45] <chronographer> Sorry, I was trying to be funny, you know, indus osunds so english I thought he was..... nvm
[08:46] <indus> chronographer: indus is actually the name of a river running through india and pakistan,it also denotes an ancient civilisation in this region
[08:46] <indus> !offtopic
[08:47] <richj> l0nwlf_, seems fedora 11 must have a newer version of x11. Looking into it. You might get a ppa build for Intrepid
[08:47] <chronographer> yeah.
[08:47] <chronographer> your english is great. I think heaps of folks from india are great english speakers
[08:48] <richj> ^jaunty
[08:48] <indus> chronographer: yes,because many go to a school where the primary medium of education is english
[08:49] <l0nwlf_> richj: pardon me for my ignorance but i didn't understood the concept , what exactly is ppa ?
[08:49] <chronographer> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas
[08:50] <matthew> hi
[08:50] <chronographer> it's great, people share packages they have compiled for Ubuntu
[08:50] <Guest5972> hi
[08:50] <chronographer> Often more recent versions of software than what is currently available for Ubuntu.
[08:50] <Guest5972> im having problems veiwing videos
[08:51] <Guest5972> can some one here maybe help im new to ubuntu
[08:51] <richj> l0nwlf_, repository for very new software versions
[08:51] <indus> Guest5972: what problems
[08:52] <Guest5972> when ever i try to play a avi file the movie player crashes
[08:52] <bazhang> !ppa | l0nwlf_
[08:53] <klem> hi
[08:53] <Guest5972> so do you no what the problem is ?
[08:53] <jigp> try2free : follow this link http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-setup-transparent-squid-proxy-server-in-ubuntu.html
[08:53] <l0nwlf_> richj: bazhang: ubottu: thanks
[08:54] <indus> Guest5972: try using another player like vlc etc
[08:54] <Guest5972> k
[08:54] <bazhang> Guest5972, do you have ubuntu-restricted-extras and w32codecs installed? what other players have you tried (ie vlc)
[08:54] <Guest5972> hold on ill download it
[08:54] <Guest5972> yah i think
[08:54] <indus> Guest5972: i have many problems with totem movie player
[08:56] <richj> l0nwlf_, are you able to download and try the karmic alpha? Using a pre-release version of xorg is possibly not a good idea. I think either use karmic or fedora :/
[08:56] <glicks> anyone have the eee pc 1000he?
[08:56] <chazco_> Hi... trying to install the latest updates results in a full system crash... now dpkg seems broken, any ideas?
[08:57] <Guest5972> were can i find the 32codecs
[08:57] <richj> chazco_,  more info??
[08:57] <bazhang> Guest5972, medibuntu.org
[08:57] <richj> chazco, can you boot into the machine?
[08:58] <Guest12120> hei folks!!! can i update my jauty to 2.6.28.13? are stable?
[08:58] <bazhang> chazco_, let us see your sources.list on paste.ubuntu.com
[08:58] <chazco_> richj - Tried update manager which crashes the system (no virtual terminals, couldnt kill X etc). Now it refuses to install anything...
[08:58] <richj> chazco_, cmdline: sudo apt-get update
[08:58] <twoface_> Guest12120: not on my computer
[08:58] <richj> chazco_ can you report any errors
[08:59] <indus> Guest5972: no need of any codecs,ubuntu will do it automatically when you play a file
[08:59] <l0nwlf_> ubuntu supports dell laptops well, i have some issues in ubuntu like a bit slow graphics (intel 965G) as compared to fedora and less resolution of my external monitor (also fedora11 seems amazingly fast), but i'm not switching my distro :)
[08:59] <chazco_> richj - Gives E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem. Will try that.
[08:59] <chazco_> richj - Trying to run that results in "dpkg: error processing hal (--configure): Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should reinstall it before attempting configuration."
[08:59] <richj> l0nwlf_, there is a comparison http://lxer.com/module/newswire/ext_link.php?rid=121790
[09:00] <Guest12120> twoface_, why not...???
[09:00] <headrx> Does icecat run in terminal as well?
[09:00] <twoface_> Guest12120: module r8169 doesn't work
[09:01] <l0nwlf_> richj: will trying carmic alpha will be good ?
[09:01] <Guest12120> twoface_, im in a celerom 512mb wireless ralink!!!
[09:01] <bazhang> l0nwlf_, not now , no
[09:01] <richj> l0nwlf_, I havn't tried it.
[09:01] <bazhang> !karmic | l0nwlf_
[09:01] <Guest12120> sorry my Guest.....
[09:02] <kewl1> i didn t
[09:02] <kewl1> heeh
[09:02] <l0nwlf_> ohhhh , thanks
[09:02] <kewl1> twoface_, ....
[09:02] <richj> chazco_, sudo dpkg --configure -a --force-remove-reinstreq
[09:02] <twoface_> kewl1: good for you
[09:02] <kewl1> twoface_, so....
[09:02] <kewl1> can i?
[09:03] <kewl1> no problems?
[09:03] <twoface_> can you what?
[09:03] <twoface_> how should I know? :)
[09:03] <kewl1> hehe...maybe someones know!!!
[09:03] <kewl1> hehe
[09:03] <kewl1> :P
[09:03] <bazhang> !enter | kewl1
[09:03] <chazco> richj - Got to to reinstall by using apt-get upgrade instead of the upgrade manager
[09:04] <chazco> richj - Seems to be working now. Thanks :)
[09:04] <richj> chazco_ nw
[09:04] <gulzar> hi
[09:04] <gulzar> yes
[09:05] <kewl1> hei ubottu , you think you re so smart, ha?? just know i ll skin you face on my screen and take out your codes with my tooth!!! :P
[09:05] <bazhang> !ot > kewl1
[09:05] <gulzar> how to install tv card in ubuntu
[09:05] <gartral> !tv
[09:06] <kewl1> ok bazhang .... let me play around with the bot!!!! :P
[09:06] <kewl1> cya later
[09:06] <kewl1> thanks twoface_ !!!
[09:06] <gartral> Thank You
[09:08] <gartral> anyone care to break down the output of cat /dev/procinfo for me? I feel dumb looking at these anagrams and abbreviations
[09:09] <oenone> help instalaiing a printer in jaunty
[09:10] <Alien_FX_Fiend> does ubuntu have mozilla with chatzilla in its status bar too or is this only found in the mozilla on red hat linux 9
[09:10] <oenone> anybody?
[09:10] <oenone> need help installing printer
[09:10] <Cry__Baby> oenone: good luck
[09:10] <oenone> ?
[09:12] <bazhang> oenone, did you find your printer in the list given you earlier?
[09:12] <kane77> hi, how can I know if apt-get it is downloading packages through p2p (I have installed apt-p2p, and changed sources.list, but I'm not sure if it is actually used)?
[09:12] <p2aa> I'm on 2.6.27.  how stable is ext4 there?  how to make it more errors-resistant, in example some checksumming or something?
[09:12] <oenone> nope sir
[09:12] <oenone> i didnt
[09:13] <oenone> while i was googling
[09:13] <bazhang> oenone, someone else searched and linked it to you
[09:13] <oenone> i found a driver but only for 32bit
[09:13] <oenone> but the 32bit drivers cant be isntall in a 64bit
[09:14] <Cry__Baby> is there any way a website or hacker can retrieve my firefox settings, e.g login details and passwords stored in firefox settings?
[09:14] <oenone> should i reinstall to 32bit
[09:15] <bazhang> Cry__Baby, unlikely; you can clear all personal info though when quitting each firefox session if you wish
[09:15] <linker2u> identify
[09:15] <Cry__Baby> bazhang: i dont want to, then I have to re-enter password and username again for over 10 websits :*(
[09:16] <p2aa>  Cry__Baby you forgotten the main password?  hmm then probably not possible
[09:16] <Cry__Baby> bazhang: when you say unlikely, does that mean someone has successfullly stolen a firefox settings?
[09:16] <Cry__Baby> p2aa: eh?
[09:16] <bazhang> Cry__Baby, then don't worry about it.
[09:17] <Lionheart> Hi all. I've got "Automatically remember running applications when logging out" unchecked but whenever I start ubuntu it runs applications I shut down witha round a month ago. How can I remove them? It's getting a bit annoying :P
[09:17] <Cry__Baby> bazhang: but firefox is storing my password and login details to my ISP and other sensitive websites.. is it safe?  Or can websites excecute a code to steal my firefox settings?
[09:17] <MrBrotato> So I haven't used Linux in years. I hear Ubuntu is very user friendly now. Can I double-click install programs now or do you still need to know command line compile stuff? That is why I went back to Windows.
[09:17] <bazhang> Cry__Baby, no idea, and not an Ubuntu issue
[09:17] <Cry__Baby> bazhang: as you know, firefox doesnt encrypt it
[09:18] <DrBenway> I have a SBL soundcard with a front panel of inputs/outputs. The front panel has never worked in Ubuntu. How do I go about fixing this?
[09:18] <bazhang> MrBrotato, there are package managers (gui) to install stuff, so no need to use the command line at all
[09:18] <MrBrotato> Good news, I might have to check it out again
[09:19] <bazhang> MrBrotato, you dont want to double click stuff as that is from 3rd party sites, as opposed to the secure and checked Ubuntu software repositories
[09:19] <T-F-K> Hi all, I get an error on grub, I get this message :  GRUB loading, please wait... Error 17
[09:19] <l0nwlf_> i went through this link : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/UxaTesting , now the output of 'xrandr' is http://pastebin.com/m57658c33
[09:19] <confluency> Hello
[09:19] <l0nwlf_> maximum resolution is changed to 4096X4096
[09:19] <DrBenway> Hello
[09:19] <bazhang> MrBrotato, best to try the live cd and take for a test run before installing
[09:20] <richj> l0nwlf_, 4096 x 4096?? that cant be right?
[09:20] <MrBrotato> Oh I was wondering if there was something like that... It just totally boots from CD without having to install?
[09:21] <p2aa> is there any  FS in ubuntu  that supports full data checksumming?
[09:21] <bazhang> MrBrotato, yes, if you set in bios to look for cd first
[09:21] <confluency> I am trying to upgrade from Intrepid to Jaunty using a DVD, and I would like to include updates from the network.  I can only access the network through a proxy.  The upgrader does not appear to be finding the proxy -- if I choose to use the network, it just hangs.  I think I experienced this problem during the previous upgrade too, and never resolved it.
[09:21] <mib_mm2ftu5h> how can i get rid of kubuntu and all of its apps would sudo apt-get --purge autoremove kubuntu-desktop do it?
[09:21] <confluency> Has anyone experienced similar problems?
[09:21] <MrBrotato> Cool, checking it out
[09:21] <l0nwlf_> richj: i was expecting it gives me 1900X1080 but since it was maximum so i thought maybe ,..however it seems odd
[09:21] <bazhang> !puregnome | mib_mm2ftu5h
[09:21] <richj> l0nwlf_, you can use xrandr -s to set the resolution
[09:21] <richj> l0nwlf_, check man xrandr
[09:22] <DrBenway> Can anyone help me with my soundcard issue???
[09:22] <harahauk> guys, im looking for a music server implementation that will be able to stream music to other locations, like for example i want to be able to open playlists from my server at a friends house party or the like, it needs to be compatible with windoze media playes (wmp,vlc,whatever). any sugg?
[09:22] <chronographer> richj: does it work with nvidia?
[09:22] <bazhang> mib_mm2ftu5h, the kubuntu-desktop is a metapackage only
[09:22] <chronographer> harahauk: try mpd and icecast
[09:22] <chronographer> a little tricky to set up but works.
[09:22] <l0nwlf_> richj: checking it (however i was used to the OS taking my resolution by default)
[09:22] <chronographer> Also use pitchfork for webUI
[09:22] <mib_mm2ftu5h> bazhang: well I already have the gnome desktop, just trying to get rid of kde, all its apps, and all its setting
[09:22] <harahauk> chronographer: awesome, another bloke also suggested icecast - thanks =)
[09:23] <bazhang> mib_mm2ftu5h, then that is the command (the bot above) you should run
[09:23] <DrBenway> I have a SBL soundcard with a front panel of inputs/outputs. The front panel has never worked in Ubuntu. How do I go about fixing this?
[09:23] <mib_mm2ftu5h> bazhang: yeah but since it was linked to all the programs and everything during install shouldnt it be linked and everythign during uninstall
[09:23] <chronographer> harahauk: get mpd working first, it's pretty easy, use sonata as a local frontend. Then edit /etc/mpd.conf to add the icecast bit.
[09:23] <richj> chronographer, ?
[09:23] <bazhang> mib_mm2ftu5h, no
[09:24] <Boon> hello
[09:24] <Boon> question please
[09:24] <DrBenway> hi
[09:24] <bazhang> !metapackage > mib_mm2ftu5h
[09:24] <chronographer> richj: ?
 richj: does it work with nvidia?
[09:24] <richj> whats the it?
[09:24] <chronographer> I meant xrandr
[09:24] <harahauk> chronographer: ah ok, so icecast neeeds mpd. any link to a good mpd howto? i seem to recall looking at it before
[09:24] <gartral> anyone care to break down the output of cat /dev/procinfo for me? I feel dumb looking at these anagrams and abbreviations
[09:24] <richj> oh
[09:24] <richj> yeah
[09:24] <T-F-K> can any body help me on GRUB Error 17  please
[09:24] <mib_mm2ftu5h> bazhang: ok, thanks
[09:25] <richj> chronographer, yes it does
[09:25] <Boon> can a uploaded php into /var/www/ run under rood it and root group??
[09:25] <bazhang> !grub > T-F-K
[09:25] <Boon> can a uploaded php into /var/www/ run under root it and root group??
[09:25] <Boon> id*
[09:25] <DrBenway> :'(
[09:26] <Boon> ?
[09:27] <Boon> if my document uploaded into /var/www/ run under root id and root group.. does it affect anything?
[09:28] <psy-cl0ne> hi, can anyone please help.trying to dual boot an msi wind with ubuntu and osx tiger but not having much fun with google
[09:28] <richj> T-F-K seems like a corrupted boot sector
[09:28] <bazhang> psy-cl0ne, os x is not licensed for that machine
[09:28] <richj> T-F-K,  what happened before it broke?
[09:28] <psy-cl0ne> yer but it works
[09:29] <kraut> moin
[09:29] <DrBenway> can anyone help me please ???
[09:29] <T-F-K> richj, I don't know  what happened its not my computer, I just wanted to help
[09:29] <richj> T-F-K, easy solution, backup data, reinstall
[09:29] <richj> T-F-K, more difficult solution, fix boot sector
[09:30] <doktoreas> Hello folks, anyone can suggest a working facebook notify for latest Ubuntu?
[09:30] <bazhang> no need for that richj T-F-K just fix grub
[09:30] <T-F-K> richj, I would prefer to fixit
[09:30] <Boon> hey
[09:30] <bazhang> T-F-K, check the bot links for grub then they are very straightforward
[09:30] <Boon> does the ffmpeg stopped to work when the file was owned by root?
[09:30] <squeak> I disabled the splash on my linux so I see the scrolling text now...only problem is each line of text comes up twice like at the same time double...anyone know why this would be doing it? or how too figure out why its doing that?
[09:31] <bazhang> Boon, why would the file not be in the home folder?
[09:31] <gartral> anyone care to break down the output of cat /dev/procinfo for me? I feel dumb looking at these anagrams and abbreviations
[09:31] <richj> bazhang - its not a problem with grub (MBR) its the boot sector for the partition
[09:31] <T-F-K> bazhang, which boot links
[09:31] <bazhang> T-F-K, /msg ubottu grub
[09:31] <gartral> chronographer: not at all :)
[09:32] <sastro> aaaf
[09:32] <T-F-K> bazhang, sorry but I don't know chat this mean ( /msg ubottu grub )
[09:33] <bazhang> !grub | T-F-K
[09:33] <l0nwlf_> richj: xrand -s 1.5 sets resolution to 1024X768, xrand -s 2 sets it to 832X624 and xrand -s 0.5 hav no effect at all ..the resolution remains as 1280X800
[09:33] <Boon> bazhang
[09:33] <Boon> does ffmpeg stop to work if the uploaded video file not owned by root... but the php script that execute ffmpeg is owned by root?
[09:34] <richj> l0nwlf_, xrandr -s 1600x1700
[09:34] <bazhang> Boon, you mean sudo?
[09:35] <l0nwlf_> richj : 'Size 1600x1700 not found in available modes
[09:35] <l0nwlf_> ' , ohh ..currently my monitor is not connected , may be thats why
[09:36] <Boon> i using clipshare script
[09:36] <T-F-K> bazhang, ubottu, actually I know grub, and I already restore it after installing windows, and I tried to make the same now, but it don't work (it's not the same case)
[09:36] <andruk> what do i need to do to get my playstation eye webcam working on the 2.6.30 kernel?
[09:36] <Boon> but the whole script is under root group..
[09:36] <Boon> and the video file is not root group
[09:36] <Boon> does it happen to convert?
[09:36] <Boon> i mean ffmpeg
[09:37] <T-F-K> bazhang, ubottu, when I tried to restore it now with a liveCD, I get this error "Error 15: File not found", what ever I made find /boot/grub/stage1 or find /grub/stage1
[09:38] <bazhang> T-F-K, this was after installing windows second to ubuntu?
[09:38] <T-F-K> now
[09:38] <T-F-K> bazhang, no, I h on have only ubuntu
[09:39] <bazhang> T-F-K, the problems started after installing windows following an Ubuntu install?
[09:39] <richj> T-F-K the partition table has been damaged, grub cant read the partition so wont boot it
[09:39] <T-F-K> bazhang, no I didn't install windows at all
[09:39] <richj> T-F-K, you need to fix the partition table
[09:39] <richj> T-F-K, which isnt easy
[09:40] <T-F-K> richj, can you tell me more about this please
[09:40] <Gen2ly> T-F-K: teskdisk might be able to do it, but takes a bit of a learning-curve
[09:41] <T-F-K> Gen2ly, learning-curve ???
[09:41] <bazhang> find /boot/grub/stage1 T-F-K returns what
[09:41] <Gen2ly> T-F-K: reinstalling isn't an option/
[09:41] <Gen2ly> ?/
[09:41] <T-F-K> bazhang, Error 15: File not found
[09:42] <crawler> hello.  using ubuntu jaunty, is there any way make the snow effect come on automatically after a reboot/logout without having to toggle on?
[09:42] <bazhang> find /grub/stage1 T-F-K and this?
[09:42] <T-F-K> Gen2ly, yes it was an option before the server get the same problem too, and I don't have any moot to reinstall the whole server
[09:43] <T-F-K> bazhang, it returns the same as the firt Error 15 ...
[09:43] <sascha_> good morning
[09:43] <richj> Gen2ly, reinstalling is an option if you recreate all the partitions
[09:44] <candell> hello everyone :)
[09:44] <richj> T-F-K, like Gen2ly said, it is difficult
[09:44] <sbt> help, I installed xorg after a base install and now I'm running on a failsafe xorg.conf. is there anyway to generate an xorg.conf automatically based on my hardware? (presumably what's being done during a normal install)
[09:44] <richj> sbt dpkg --reconfigure
[09:44] <Vasa> hi, I'm about to install xubuntu on my eee pc => I have made the partition for it => but dont wanna mess up windows 7 boot thing --> so can i set up boot partition on a 8mb SD card?
[09:44] <richj> sbt did you install video drivers too>?
[09:44] <sbt> richj: i think so
[09:45] <T-F-K> richj, difficult means possible, and this is somthing I can learn, so I like it :)
[09:45] <sbt> richj: which package should I reconfigure?
[09:45] <T-F-K> richj , can you tell me how to make please ?
[09:46] <richj> T-F-K first boot a live cd, and run a check on all the partitions
[09:46] <T-F-K> richj, fsck  ???
[09:47] <Cry__Baby> I installed Ubuntu using alternative install, and chose to encrypt filesystem.  Does this mean I can safely keep private documents on Ubuntu and nobody can access them without my password?
[09:47] <richj> T-F-K,  yes. Also make 100% sure grub is trying to boot the right device
[09:48] <Vasa> Cry_Baby: yes
[09:49] <Nubuntuser> hello everyone...I just gone done wiping my laptop's hard drive and Ubuntu is all I have now :-)
[09:50] <PointMan> hardy == 8.04 lts?
[09:50] <rameshwo> Nubuntuser :  congrats...
[09:50] <T-F-K> richj, I made fsck /dev/sda3 (my linux partition)
[09:50] <Nubuntuser> got a grub editing question... how do I edit it so that ubuntu instantly loads on power up?
[09:51] <Boon> what is the command to search a file in a folder recursively?
[09:51] <indus> Nubuntuser: make timeout zero
[09:51] <n0gear> Nubuntuser: make ubuntu adefault and timeout to zero
[09:51] <andruk> my pseye webcam is not working on 2.6.30 even though lsmod shows that the oc534 modules is installed.
[09:52] <rameshwo>   Nubuntuser : sudo gedit ./boot/grub/menu.lst ..   just  change the time_out......... others plz check me if wrong..
[09:52] <andruk> *ov534
[09:52] <Nubuntuser> thanks rameshwo
[09:53] <Nubuntuser> was just about to ask for terminal command
[09:53] <PointMan> anyone got a good tutorial as to installing 8.04 lts as domU on a xen server?
[09:54] <Vasa> any idea for me?
[09:54] <rameshwo> Nubuntuser : it feels great to help someone.. i'm newbie  so  i  seldom get helping opportunity
[09:54] <Nubuntuser> my menu.lst file is empty
[09:55] <rameshwo> Nubuntuser : you first check form gui  also...  goto boot->grub->menu.lst.. you or me might make mistake in extension.
[09:55] <bayer> hi there, i'm using the java rxtx library to connect to /dev/ttyS0 - at least i try to do so, but it doesnt work. this seems to be an ubuntu-related issue, as the same thing works on a centos machine! any idea why?
[09:56] <n0gear> Nubuntuser: sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst
[09:56] <indus> Nubuntuser: sudo gedit /etc/grub/menu.lst
[09:56] <indus> :) :)
[09:56] <indus> Nubuntuser: sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[09:56] <indus> sorry
[09:58] <Myrtti> indus: gksudo
[09:58] <indus> Myrtti: baah sudo works fine for me
[09:58] <indus> Myrtti: i read the docs but cant make out the difference
[09:58] <quibbler> !sudo > indus
[09:58] <Cry__Baby> I installed Ubuntu using alternative install, and chose to encrypt filesystem.  Does this mean I can safely keep private documents on Ubuntu and nobody can access them without my password?
[09:59] <Myrtti> !worksforme > indus
[09:59] <rameshwo> Cry__Baby : you don't have to do it .you can set file permissions....
[10:00] <indus> Myrtti: none of us can guarantee here that the solutions given to others work do they
[10:00] <Nubuntuser> using "sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst" i got a menu.lst i can edit. i know to change the timeout to 0, what else?
[10:00] <n0gear> Nubuntuser: thats it
[10:00] <n0gear> well save it of course :)
[10:01] <indus> Myrtti: dont force me to change my opinion ,iam fine with sudo and it also works fine for most people
[10:01] <Cry__Baby> rameshwo: your comment made no sense
[10:01] <Myrtti> indus: if you're not prepared to stay on the channel to help people that may break their system on arbitrary use of sudo for graphical apps, then suggest gksu(do) for them.
[10:02] <Myrtti> indus: it's two more letters.
[10:02] <indus> well ok
[10:02] <Flannel> indus, Myrtti: you can use gksu too, which is the same amount of letters.
[10:02] <indus> Myrtti: i need a link to prove that sudo can break something graphical
[10:02] <Myrtti> Flannel: indeed.
[10:02] <Flannel> indus: gksu is for graphical programs, sudo is for non-graphical programs.
[10:02] <ddoom> anyone know how to get flash working in firefox on jaunty amd64? I tried copying the libflashplayer.so to ~/.mozilla/plugins but I have to delete firefox profile all the time for it to work
[10:02] <Nubuntuser> i want to remove the press escape option too...
[10:02] <Nubuntuser> ## hiddenmenu
[10:02] <Nubuntuser> # Hides the menu by default (press ESC to see the menu)
[10:02] <Nubuntuser> hiddenmenu
[10:03] <rameshwo> if you don't want other users to view your file then .. you can set appropriat file permissions for other uses  ( chmod  )   .
[10:03] <Flannel> indus: What happens is when you use sudo, some files in your homedir are changed so they're owned by root.  This can cause problems logging in sometimes.
[10:03] <indus> Flannel: hmm
[10:04] <indus> Flannel: can you tell me why that happens and which files ?
[10:04] <rameshwo> Cry__Baby : made some sense ? if not. i'm newbie.  so other's may reply..
[10:05] <Flannel> indus: It has to do with the way the environment is set up.  I don't know the files off the top of my head.  Point is, if you just always use gksu for graphical programs (or kdesu if you're on KDE), you'll always be OK.
[10:05] <Cry__Baby> rameshwo: :) ok thanks anyway
[10:05] <Flannel> indus: Even if you choose not to use it personally, please be sure to always recommend it that way in this channel.  We are in the business of fixing people's problems, not creating new ones.
[10:05] <Nubuntuser> okay, i have it edited the way i want but unsure how to save changes
[10:05] <n0gear> did u use nano or gedit?
[10:05] <Nubuntuser> nano
[10:06] <n0gear> ctrl+o if im not mistaken
[10:06] <Flannel> and then ctrl-x to close, yes.
[10:06] <n0gear> thanks Flannel
[10:06] <Nubuntuser> thanks
[10:06] <Nubuntuser> rebooting to check
[10:06] <Nubuntuser> brb
[10:07] <indus> Flannel: Myrtti:ill see u in ubuntu-ops
[10:08] <Alien_FX_Fiend> i'm looking for tutorials on how to program in hex and binary
[10:08] <light50> hello does ne1 know if i can get gnome-terminal to flash me if theres activity in irssi?
[10:08] <Myrtti> Alien_FX_Fiend: whut?
[10:08] <milo_> please where can i find drivers in order to enable my desktop effects?
[10:08] <Nubuntuser> its better :-)
[10:09] <Nubuntuser> but still see a few lines of text before ubuntu logo...trying to emulate vista boot...no text
[10:09] <Nubuntuser> can that be done?
[10:11] <milo_> help me. please.
[10:12] <Guillem> I've two laptops with bluetooth, and I want to transfer files with the gnome-bluetooth applet (or whatever is what is shown at systray). But each time I try so, I get a message of operation-non-supported. I guess I should configure something at each one. Any clues?
[10:12] <gartral> does ubuntu try and interperate optical mice as a trckball?
[10:14] <Guillem> "Obex  Push file transfer unsupported"
[10:16] <Exterminans> Hi, got a little problem. In /var/log/syslog the following 2 lines repeat evry 10 seconds
[10:16] <Exterminans> Jun 12 11:08:55 USERVER init: tty1 main process (21845) terminated with status 1
[10:16] <Exterminans> Jun 12 11:08:55 USERVER init: tty1 main process ended, respawning
[10:16] <lclimber> hello guys, i recently upraded my system to ubuntu 9.04, now i get constant freezes and have to restart just like on windows; when i see the last log output it says something about NVRM; so i am guessing it has something to do with the nvidia driver, so i am now using the generic xorg.conf (the one writen by default), but i still get the freezes even without using the nvidia drivers, can any one help me please
[10:17] <Gen2ly> lclimber: I'd use tools like top or iotop and see just what is taking the CPU or hogging the disk usage.
[10:17] <Nubuntuser> is there an open source/free option to vmware?
[10:17] <indus> Nubuntuser: vmware is opensource
[10:18] <lclimber> Nubuntuser try qemu
[10:18] <rikki_max> Nubuntuser: vmware player, free, easy to use
[10:18] <light50> Nubuntuser: you tried sun virtualbox
[10:18] <lclimber> vmware is free but not opensource
[10:18] <light50> not sure of its open
[10:18] <Boohbah> !info apache2.2-common
[10:18] <Smegzor> Hi.  I am trying to set up a squid server on a spare box and I have installed 2 network cards.  I can't get eth1 to work.  I can see both cards with lspci, but the interface eth1 is unknown and I don't know what I need to do to make it available.  I am running Ubuntu server 9.04
[10:19] <indus> #ubuntu-ops
[10:19] <indus> damn
[10:20] <lclimber> Smegzor. did your try ifup eth1?; did you configured /etc/network/interfaces ? have a look at that file
[10:20] <Myrtti> lclimber: if your processor supports VT/SVM, use kvm. It's fast :-)
[10:20] <rikki_max> Nubuntuser: take a look http://www.vmware.com/download/player/open_source.html vmware player is opensource
[10:21] <lclimber> Nubuntuser you could also try xen
[10:22] <light50> virtualbox is open source apparently http://www.virtualbox.org/
[10:22] <Smegzor> lclimber: yes to first.  haven't touched /etc/network/interfaces
[10:22] <Nubuntuser> i just need to be able to run fedora, windows xp, and vista and dont want to tripple boot like i was
[10:23] <Nubuntuser> i prefer ubuntu over fedora but use it for school. its what they use
[10:23] <yaris123456789> is there anyway to produce an iframe that loads that site, and make it resize so that its width and height is exactly same, and that its positioned to show the video ?
[10:24] <Myrtti> yaris123456789: is that directly Ubuntu support? ;-)
[10:24] <lclimber> Smegzor well , try sudo ifconfig eth1 xx.xx.xx.xx netmask xx.xx.xx.xx; if it works, then write /etc/network/intefaces and configure it with your desire parameters
[10:24] <rikki_max> Nubuntuser: http://www.vmware.com/appliances/ take a look at the apps / os's pre installed for dl in vmware
[10:25] <lclimber> Nubuntuser try vmware server, it is free and really easy to use
[10:25] <Nubuntuser> i have the cd's for everything...provided by school and vista came with laptop
[10:25] <Flannel> yaris123456789: Please find a more appropriate channel for that.  Thanks.
[10:27] <lclimber> the only error i can identify on my dmesg logs is "NVRM: Xid (0001:00): 6, PE0003"
[10:29] <Nubuntuser> dont think vmware server is what i need, too much i think
[10:29] <mib_i6cej5tz> hello, need help
[10:30] <gartral> does ubuntu try and interperate optical mice as a trckball?
[10:30] <gartral> anyone care to break down the output of cat /dev/procinfo for me? I feel dumb looking at these anagrams and abbreviations
[10:31] <Nubuntuser> basically i want to run windows in linux and have all my hardware recognized and work. i was running vmware 6.5 in vista but was a trial copy.
[10:31] <nixiepixel> Silly question, but I am using XChat - is there a "find" function?
[10:31] <nixiepixel> I would like to find text that was written above.
[10:31] <grawity> nixiepixel: Try /lastlog
[10:32] <nixiepixel> grawity - thank you! How many lines do you set your buffer for?
[10:33] <grawity> I don't use Xchat.
[10:34] <mib_2w2i7adh> hi, anybody here willing to help
[10:34] <grawity> mib_2w2i7adh: If you tell us what is the problem.
[10:34] <suigeneris> !ask | mib_2w2i7adh
[10:34] <mib_2w2i7adh> got problem in ubuntu jaunty, my kb and mouse hangs up
[10:34] <mib_2w2i7adh> sorry for that,
[10:35] <harpreet_> how do i open .celtx in ubuntu?
[10:35] <mib_2w2i7adh> just installed on my pc, and after a while my it freezes.
[10:36] <the_archit3ct> need help for quassel/quasselcore
[10:37] <lclimber> Nubuntuser; dont let the name server confuse you. try it, it wont let you down
[10:37] <Nubuntuser> VMware Workstation was the trial version i was using...it's available for linux but not free
[10:37] <au> Hello everyone
[10:39] <Exterminans> Is there any way to reload the config in /etc/even.d without rebooting a server?
[10:39] <indus> Nubuntuser: yes even iam wanting an answer to it
[10:39] <indus> Nubuntuser: have been  wanting to use VM on my pc for long
[10:40] <indus> anyone know of a free VM software
[10:40] <lclimber> Nubuntuser; well vmware server is pretty much the same as workstartion, the only difference is i think, that vmware workstation, lets you take multiple snapshots on a VM, whilevmware server doesnt
[10:41] <Nubuntuser> so that means i can only run one os at a time?
[10:41] <indus> !vmware
[10:41] <lclimber> no, you can run as many as you want
[10:41] <aprilhare> hello: i want to run the game quadra under ubuntu. i couldn't find a ubuntu package so i downloaded the source. ran the configure script, got this: "configure: WARNING: X11 is required and could not be found!"
[10:41] <lclimber> only that you can take one snapshot at for each vm
[10:42] <aprilhare> the last time i checked, i have X11 :)
[10:42] <indus> !virtualbox
[10:42] <O__o> whats new in 9.04??  i am using 8.04 should i upgrade or just wait?
[10:43] <aprilhare> O__o: upgrade.
[10:43] <indus> anyone know of a free virtual machine emu
[10:43] <O__o> aprilhare, why? whats benefit?
[10:43] <aprilhare> indus: VirtualBox OSE
[10:43] <Gen2ly> ./configure --prefix-/usr    the configure script is probably looking in /usr/local
[10:43] <Gen2ly> er, that is --prefix=/usr
[10:43] <aprilhare> O__o: too many to list. http://www.ubuntu.com/ spells them out prominently
[10:44] <indus> aprilhare: what kind of resources do a vm need
[10:44] <iamleneko> hey
[10:44] <O__o> anyone runs netbook here?
[10:44] <aprilhare> indus: http://virtualbox.org has more details (i think)
[10:44] <iamleneko> simple question, how do i check if 2 binary files have no difference
[10:45] <indus> yes checking now
[10:45] <O__o> does 9.04 have netbook remix version?
[10:45] <PointMan> xen is good
[10:45] <indus> now who can give me a free windows XP cd :D
[10:45] <gartral> O__o: yea, shoul
[10:45] <gartral> d
[10:46] <indus> aprilhare: could you give me some use cases on where and when a VM will be a good option
[10:46] <iamleneko> indus, you would probably need ram for your virtual machines
[10:46] <GhostWolf76> hey ppl can anyone help me is there a program that works good to mount iso files??
[10:46] <cankoy> iamleneko: checksum (md5sum, sha1sum, etc)
[10:46] <indus> GhostWolf76: what iso are you trying to mount? and where
[10:46] <iamleneko> cankoy, then i do diff on this outputs ?
[10:47] <GhostWolf76> does it matter what and where indus??
[10:47] <cankoy> iamleneko: diff is for text files
[10:47] <turneralex> hey im trying to install ubuntu on my sun v880 and the installer is hanging at the find harddrives part
[10:47] <turneralex> any ideas?
[10:47] <indus> GhostWolf76: yeah i dont understand your requirement
[10:47] <Crash_> I'm using thunderbird in ubuntu 9.04. when i fetch mail all goes well but the messages at server are not marked read as i download it. any solution
[10:48] <GhostWolf76> indus requirement for what?? i just want a simple program i can install on my kubuntu to mount files easily without using terminal
[10:48] <aprilhare> indus: when you want to run windows but don't want to reboot. when you're too chicken to format over entire partitions to try ubuntu 9.10. when ubuntu doesn't run something you need. etc.
[10:48] <aprilhare> tonnes of reasons
[10:48] <iamleneko> indus, i use vm on a day basis for checking rendering of websites we builds, on IE
[10:48] <Gen2ly> GhostWolf76: gmountiso
[10:49] <indus> iamleneko: dont you think installing a VM just to check one application is too much waste of resources?Doesnt ie run on wine?
[10:49] <rexha> @Crash try to re-install it or maybe you must configure again the Gmail settings
[10:49] <GhostWolf76> Gen2ly thanks i think i hadf problems with gmount before but thats with ubuntu not kubuntu i'll give that a try thanks
[10:49] <indus> iamleneko: but 2 things iam itching to try are VM and VPN
[10:49] <iamleneko> indus, wine could have strange behavior and invalidate my verification, with vm there is no doubt about it
[10:50] <indus> iamleneko: hmm
[10:50] <gartral> indus: i'm trying to setup a vpn myself right now..
[10:50] <indus> gartral: cool :)
[10:50] <indus> gartral: iam too lazy generally, but i have weekend coming up so maybe i try
[10:50] <rob_p> indus, I run a VPN in a VM!  :-)
[10:50] <iamleneko> indus, i did use the wine way before, in fact, vm is better to me as i run it only when needed, the ressource is not a real problem
[10:51] <Caplain> hey rob_p
[10:51] <rob_p> Caplain, Hello.
[10:51] <indus> gartral: do i need any special hardware for vpn ?
[10:51] <indus> rob_p: :) cooool
[10:51] <rob_p> indus, No.
[10:51] <iceroot> indus: just a nic
[10:51] <Caplain> #gentoo seems dead
[10:51] <gartral> indus: nothing but your networking hardware
[10:52] <aprilhare> i want to run the game quadra under ubuntu. i couldn't find a ubuntu package so i downloaded the source. ran the configure script, got this: "configure: WARNING: X11 is required and could not be found!"
[10:52] <Drude> ahoj, je tu nejaky cech? co by mohl pomoci?
[10:52] <indus> i have an adsl router
[10:52] <rexha> Which is the best game for ubuntu ???
[10:52] <aprilhare> !cz
[10:52] <indus> rexha: QUAKE 4 !
[10:52] <iceroot> rexha: Quake 3
[10:52] <rexha> is it FREE !
[10:52] <rexha> ?
[10:52] <indus> :)
[10:52] <indus> rexha: alien arena,nexuiz
[10:52] <iceroot> rexha: quake engine is open-source but not free, try openarena
[10:53] <GhostWolf76> Gen2ly i think i remember the problem with gmountiso.. which is the mount point is there a specific area i should mount it?
[10:53] <indus> iamleneko: i thought u need at least 1 gb ram to run windows on vm
[10:53] <Gen2ly> Not sure GhostWolf76, haven't used it in quite a bit.
[10:53] <butteff> Hi! How I can to include perl script into html file?
[10:53] <pkkm> !startup > pkkm
[10:54] <GhostWolf76> ok i normally use my main folder in home but when i hit mount it says its not empty..
[10:54] <indus> the whole VM concept is so much brilliant ,i hear IBM used to use it long back internally and each partition on their drives was a VM of some sort
[10:54] <indus> iceroot: whats a nic?
[10:54] <iceroot> indus: also 3d card support is now working (not good but it is)
[10:54] <iamleneko> indus, if you have 1gb on your computer you have to keep ram for the main OS so you have to substract what your main OS need to know what your vm could have
[10:55] <iceroot> indus: Network Interface Card (NIC)
[10:55] <Gen2ly> GhostWolf76: I use  bash script:  http://pastebin.com/d1f928b7b
[10:55] <Skeptic> .
[10:55] <turneralex_> so does #ubuntu
[10:55] <andersand> hello, i have ubuntu server 8.1 LTS with mail server installed. i need to setup a client for it, but is it POP or IMAPs type? How can i find out?
[10:55] <indus> iceroot: is that same as a LAN CARD? i mean the ones we have on the mobo to connect to the internet
[10:55] <GhostWolf76> Gen2ly does that show how to mount using terminal? im trying not to do that way
[10:55] <iceroot> indus: yes
[10:56] <turneralex_> andersand: Ohh mate just buy a copy of @mail
[10:56] <rexha> My computer doesnt support Visual Effects due to bug #363821 does this mean that i cannot play 3d games ?????
[10:56] <indus> iceroot: also ,by 3d support you mean.. you cant play games on a vm?
[10:56] <andersand> turneralex_, i don't understand
[10:56] <iceroot> indus: yes, new virtualbox has 3d card support (i think only non-free version)
[10:56] <Gen2ly> GhostWolf76: for the new, the bash script... may not be the best way :)
[10:56] <iamleneko> indus, i have 1gb on my computer and i don't think it is enough, right now without any vm started and the software i use at work only 13 Mo free
[10:57] <kora> hi, is there any convenient way to grab keycodes for the xmodmap? i have a thinkpad and want to map the "browser forwar/backwar" buttons to home/end with xmodmap.
[10:57] <indus> iamleneko: 13 mb free ? huh you using vista?
[10:57] <CSSnub> I want to setup sftp on my Ubuntu machine to allow access to an external HDD that is shared from a windows box on my LAN. So I can place files in a directory on the NTFS external drive on a different machine and people can access it by sftp through the ubuntu box. Does that sound possible/secure?
[10:57] <iamleneko> indus, if i run a windows vm, lot will be transfered in the swap, and the performance would not be great
[10:57] <andersand> surely there must be a command to find out what type of mail server i run
[10:57] <iamleneko> indus, ubuntu
[10:57] <rob_p> andersand, Depends on what server packages you installed for POP/IMAP support and if/how you have them configured.
[10:57] <iamleneko> ...
[10:57] <aprilhare> i want to run the game quadra under ubuntu. i couldn't find a ubuntu package so i downloaded the source. ran the configure script, got this: "configure: WARNING: X11 is required and could not be found!"
[10:57] <Gen2ly> GhostWolf76: have seen: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=11577 ?
[10:57] <GhostWolf76> Gen2ly well reason im saying i don't want to use temrinal cause i've just tried and well i don't think it worked but i remember gmountiso but i remember another program that let me mount through file manager but i have no idea right now
[10:57] <jrib> !compile > aprilhare
[10:57] <iceroot> CSSnub: if the user can access the hdd, he can also access it with sftp
[10:58] <iceroot> CSSnub: sftp is only ssh with file-transfer
[10:58] <andersand> rob_p, i can read mail using "mail" command (it is Postfix and dovecot btw)
[10:58] <GhostWolf76> Gen2ly no i didn't know there was anything like that normally i just google
[10:58] <iamleneko> indus, linux as a lightweight os is not always true
[10:58] <CSSnub> So how do I setup that share? Something to do with Samba? Just looking for something to read up on, I'm very new.
[10:58] <rob_p> andersand, Well dovecot supports both POP and IMAP(s) so the question is how you have it configured.
[10:58] <indus> iamleneko: i am not sure i understand... u only have ubuntu on your pc and 1gb aint enough? what software are you running
[10:58] <andersand> rob_p, what i want now is to read mail from another computer than loggin onto the server
[10:58] <iamleneko> indus, 1 firefox + 1 ide + gnome + evolution + xchat = byebye ram
[10:58] <iceroot> andersand: normaly its pop3, check your openports if there is imap running too
[10:59] <Cry__Baby> hello
[10:59] <Cry__Baby> When I boot Ubuntu, there is a screen that pops up which says, "sda_crypt", and I need to enter my password to load Ubuntu.  Can anyone bypass this and gain access to my ubuntu?
[10:59] <andersand> rob_p, well thats what i m asking
[10:59] <iamleneko> indus, in fact firefox probably eat the most of the ram
[10:59] <indus> iamleneko: wait let me run all those and see
[10:59] <iamleneko> indus, the ide is geany which is pretty lightweight
[10:59] <indus> iamleneko: good cos i dont have an ide :P
[11:00] <indus> iamleneko: i think you have some problem, iam only using 400 mb total
[11:00] <andersand> netstat says i have both ports listening (pop and imaps)
[11:00] <CSSnub> iceroot: in order to share that external drive I want to install/setup samba yes?
[11:00] <GoNt1k> почему нема :/
[11:00] <Nubuntuser> okay im downloading vmware server after reading up on it...had to register for key
[11:00] <iamleneko> indus, you need to use a little more firefox before it eat ram
[11:00] <nixiepixel> cry_baby - if someone has a LiveCD and knows what they are doing (and you allow booting to the CD) they can gain access to your system.
[11:01] <iceroot> CSSnub: the external drive is connected via usb? so you can access it with /media/your-hdd?
[11:01] <rob_p> andersand, Then I'd say you can probably connect with an appropriate client and retrieve mail.
[11:01] <andersand> surely there must be some config file...
[11:01] <indus> iamleneko: little more firefox what it means
[11:01] <Nubuntuser> in the meantime, how can i check my hotmail, gmail, and isp pop3 mail in one client?
[11:01] <CSSnub> iceroot: no it's eSata on a different computer on the LAN, a windows box
[11:01] <iamleneko> indus, i mean you need to browse stuff
[11:01] <iceroot> Nubuntuser:use thunderbird
[11:01] <rexha> Nubuntuser:they must support POP3 and SMTP
[11:01] <pascal> hey =) how can i set my keyboard into german oo ? ^^
[11:01] <indus> iamleneko: i have 5 tabs open
[11:01] <rexha> hotmail doesnt support i gues
[11:02] <rexha> evolution and thunderbird are the clients
[11:02] <CSSnub> I want users to have access to that drive only, and a specific folder preferably - but it must be physically connected to a windows machine
[11:02] <iceroot> !samba | CSSnub
[11:02] <rexha> i proppose you tu use gmail
[11:02] <aprilhare> jrib: the information recommended is out of date.
[11:02] <CSSnub> kk ty
[11:02] <CSSnub> got some reading to do :)
[11:02] <jrib> aprilhare: interesting.  How did you determine that?
[11:02] <aprilhare> jrib: it recommends installing xlibs-dev, xlibs-static-dev,x-window-system-dev but you hit brick wall when trying :)
[11:02] <pascal> hey =) how can i set my keyboard into german oo ? ^^
[11:02] <gartral> anyone care to break down the output of cat /dev/procinfo for me? I feel dumb looking at these anagrams and abbreviations
[11:03] <iceroot> pascal: sytsem - einstellungen - tastatur - layout
[11:03] <pascal> thx ^^
[11:03] <iamleneko> indus, here. firefox : 204.5 Mo, nautilus : 170.5 Mo, evolution : 31.9, pidgin : 23.1, mysql-query-browser : 12.9 etc...
[11:03] <indus> iamleneko: nautilus 170 ? omg
[11:03] <rexha> i want to use this character ( ë ) aftter i type alt+137 line in the windows , how to do that ?
[11:04] <indus> iamleneko: nautilus 15 mb for me
[11:04] <indus> gartral: i dont have a /dev/procinfo
[11:04] <iceroot> rexha: isnt it alt gr + 137 (on numpad)?
[11:04] <iamleneko> indus, i have some share mounted via ssh would probably add some ram
[11:04] <jrib> aprilhare: xorg-dev and libx11-dev are probably what you need.  It would be great if you could try that and make a note on the wiki about jaunty :)
[11:04] <rexwi1> hi all, whenever after running apt-get update i get
[11:04] <rexwi1> http://paste.ubuntu.com/194210/
[11:05] <rexha> iceroot: could you be more specific ?
[11:05] <iamleneko> indus, as well i have been on folder with a bunch of thumbnails shown
[11:05] <gartral> indus: /ect/procinfo, sorry
[11:05] <iceroot> indus: /proc/cpuinfo maybe?
[11:05] <iceroot> indus: ah ok, sorry
[11:05] <gartral> now i feel even more stupid>.>
[11:05] <andrewmcdonough> exit
[11:05] <andrewmcdonough> quite
[11:06] <indus> gartral: /proc/cpuinfo
[11:06] <iceroot> rexha: try holding alt gr and then press the numbers on numpad
[11:06] <indus> rexwi1: u have added a debian repo i guess
[11:06] <iamleneko> indus, as well my computer haven't do a real restart for some days
[11:06] <rexwi1> yes it is a debian cloud machine
[11:06] <indus> iamleneko: ok well now you tell me :)
[11:06] <iamleneko> indus, maybe restart the session would free some ram
[11:07] <iamleneko> i checking this
[11:07] <indus> iamleneko: maybe , but iam not happy that xchat takes 10 mb
[11:07] <rexwi1> indus |^
[11:07] <indus> rexwi1: :)
[11:08] <indus> rexwi1: whats a debian cloud machine btw
[11:08] <TGM> Can anyone point me to something to help get a Lucent WinModem wokring? I've tried the walk-throughs under help, I've tried ltModem, and I've attempted to handle it with pppconfig and the Gnome Network Admin, and I always seem to hit a road block or it just downright doesn't work. I have a scanmodem and I know the modem works (the computer is dual booted and I can connect to the internet just fine via windows.) i do not currently have access
[11:08] <TGM>  to the computer however as it's a state away and so I can;t test anything here or now on it :[
[11:08] <jrib> TGM: you have read the wiki guide?
[11:08] <jrib> !dialup > TGM
[11:08] <TGM> I have
[11:09] <iamleneko> indus, well clean start only pidgin + xchat + tomboy + the main gnome : 200 mo free
[11:09] <indus> rexwi1: maybe add that debian repo key again after deleting old one
[11:09] <Chechefr> msg niskserv identify *jul123*
[11:09] <indus> iamleneko: ok this looks like a problem , check other processes
[11:09] <jrib> Chechefr: have your client do that...
[11:10] <paulo----> ubuntu works on laptops, right?
[11:10] <iamleneko> indus, well i have bunch of other process but i use them
[11:10] <gartral> iamleneko: what program did you get those stats with?
[11:10] <jrib> paulo----: yep
[11:10] <Nubuntuser> im on a laptop
[11:10] <TGM> jrib: I have indeed read the wiki, It's how I came to try ltmodem, pppconfig stc.
[11:10] <TGM> *etc
[11:10] <iceroot> iamleneko: think of that there is a difference betwenn real free memory and cahce+buffer+free memory, its not like windows
[11:10] <aprilhare> jrib: thanks, compiled - but it complains "warning: failed to initialize sound system"..
[11:10] <indus> iamleneko: ok man you know your system best :) iam sure ram is being put to good use
[11:10] <jrib> TGM: k, don't know of other resources.  Though the wiki links to some site dedicated to linux modems, maybe you can try there if it is still active
[11:10] <paulo----> where can i get an ubuntu cd?
[11:10] <iceroot> !download | paulo----
[11:10] <indus> iamleneko: ya i heard linux has diff way of showing used mem ,
[11:11] <aprilhare> paulo----: on a wind swept mountain peak. all you have to do is get someone to bring it to you
[11:11] <indus> !freemem
[11:11] <iamleneko> indeed, in fact the os respond well with my only 200 mo free
[11:11] <iamleneko> so...
[11:12] <aprilhare> paulo----: http://www.ubuntu.com/GetUbuntu/purchase
[11:12] <aprilhare> that way too
[11:12] <insmod> does anyone know of script as easy as chatterbox but without 1) writing it 2) adds??
[11:12] <aprilhare> :)
[11:12] <jrib> indus: linuxatemyram.com
[11:13] <indus> jrib:thanks i was looking for that link
[11:13] <iamleneko> jrib, cool
[11:13] <rob_p> !ram
[11:13] <iamleneko> okey
[11:13] <igor_> Hello everybody!
[11:13] <iamleneko> so in regard of this info, i have 656 Mo free
[11:13] <indus> iamleneko: when system is left on for some time idle, it keeps using free ram and uses it for caching or something like that
[11:14] <paulo----> !torrent
[11:14] <paulo----> !torrents
[11:14] <iamleneko> indus, that is probably this that look like eating the ram
[11:14] <paulo----> what is jaunty?
[11:14] <jrib> paulo----: the latest stable release of ubuntu
[11:14] <paulo----> the 9.04??
[11:14] <jrib> paulo----: yes
[11:15] <paulo----> ok tnx
[11:15] <nixiepixel> paulo---- - yes, Ubuntu 9.04 is called Jaunty Jackalope, or Jaunty for short
[11:15] <paulo----> would you prefer the 64bit?
[11:15] <nixiepixel> I would, because I have more than 4 GB of RAM.
[11:15] <milo_> This aptitude does not have Super Cow Powers.  what's the meaning?
[11:16] <paulo----> hmmm ok
[11:16] <igor_> Can someone help me with keyboard layout switch. I managed to bind it to Ctrl+Shift, but now hotkeys in other applications starting with Ctrl+Shift do not work. (For example in eclipse I press Ctrl+Shift+Space and it changes layout and acts as I pushed ctrl+Space :( )
[11:16] <GoNt1k> hmp... is there someone who can help me with flash?
[11:16] <hateball> !details | GoNt1k
[11:16] <nixiepixel> GoNt1k - please be specific.
[11:16] <GoNt1k> okay
[11:16] <jrib> igor_: I use double shift for keyboard layout change.  Works well
[11:17] <glicks> anyone have the eee pc 1000he?/
[11:17] <GoNt1k> im trying to see some youtube videos with ff on ubuntu jaunty, but swfdec - too slowly
[11:17] <GoNt1k> and i cant find how to uninstall it
[11:17] <nixiepixel> GoNt1k - Are you on 32-bit or 64-bit?
[11:17] <indus> milo_: ITS just for fun
[11:17] <igor_> jrib: thanks I've been thinking about that too, but I'm so comfortable with Ctrl+Shift, can't imagine Shift+Shift
[11:18] <GoNt1k> 64
[11:18] <milo_> indus: really?lol
[11:18] <jrib> igor_: I think you will have some trouble keeping ctrl-shift and getting those shortcuts to work
[11:18] <GoNt1k> sudo apt-get remove flashplugin-* --purge
[11:18] <GoNt1k> then
[11:18] <GoNt1k> sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[11:18] <GoNt1k> dont help me)
[11:18] <FloodBot1> GoNt1k: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:18] <indus> milo_: read this http://www.eeggs.com/items/36008.html
[11:19] <indus> GoNt1k: ill give u a cool tip on flash
[11:20] <nixiepixel> GoNt1k - here is how to fix flash on 64-bit Ubuntu:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1081964&highlight=flash+white+box
[11:20] <indus> GoNt1k: download the 64 bit alpha flash from site, www.labs.adobe.com , then in your home folder go to hidden directory mozilla>plugins> and put it there
[11:20] <gartral> !jaunty > ]pablo[
[11:20] <milo_> i was just reading about aptitude... aptitude --help
[11:20] <GoNt1k> thanks, indus
[11:20] <GoNt1k> i`ll try it out
[11:21] <nixiepixel> Or listen to indus as he's giving you the same instructions.
[11:21] <indus> GoNt1k: and completely remove flashplugin-nonfree
[11:21] <indus> GoNt1k: and one more thing ..... THEY BOTH SUCK
[11:21] <indus> :)
[11:21] <nixiepixel> GoNt1k, indus - that link lists each command for you, tells you how to get the alpha, purge the old player, etc.
[11:21] <indus> GoNt1k: flash 10 is horrible compared to 9
[11:22] <indus> nixiepixel: thansk man ill check it out
[11:22] <milo_> nice jock.lol
[11:23] <Nubuntuser> uh oh got a problem...clicking on vmware.rpm "archive type not supported"
[11:24] <indus> nixiepixel: GoNt1k:but you dont get those annoying white windows with the nspluginwrapper 32 bit version so i prefer 64 bit alpha over the wrapper package
[11:24] <gartral> Nubuntuser: you need a .deb
[11:24] <indus> aah i miss flash 9
[11:24] <Nubuntuser> was not a .deb option when i downloaded it
[11:24] <nixiepixel> indus - sure, no problem (and I prefer girl) ;)
[11:25] <indus> ok thanks man . masquerading as a girl :P
[11:26] <indus> i wonder when flash 64 will reach beta sheeesshhh
[11:26] <indus> feb to june bah
[11:26] <nixiepixel> indus - hah.  http://www.nixiepixel.com/blog/blog7.php  :P
[11:26] <lesshaste> I can't seem to get the system to recognise my dvd drive... any ideas where I should start?
[11:26] <GoNt1k> indus, well, that doesnt work for me, i do all with tutorial, but when im trying to run some flash in ff its just do nothing
[11:27] <gartral> lesshaste: can the drive read any type of media?
[11:27] <lesshaste> gartral: how do I tell?
[11:27] <Nubuntuser> getting alien to convert the rpm
[11:27] <milo_> please i need help with bactrack
[11:27] <gartral> lesshaste: put a cd in it...
[11:27] <indus> GoNt1k: you need to remove flashplugin-nonfree completely
[11:27] <lesshaste> gardar: and then do what?
[11:27] <indus> restart firefoxie
[11:27] <indus> i mean firefox :)
[11:28] <milo_> i downloaded backtrack on my desktop (ISO)...hw do i install it on my hdd?
[11:28] <l0nwlf_> when i try playing quake 3 arena on jaunty , i get no sound </dev/dsp: Device or resource busy
[11:28] <l0nwlf_> Could not open /dev/dsp
[11:28] <l0nwlf_> > ..what is the meaning of this
[11:28] <lesshaste> gardar: actually the answer is yes
[11:28] <kraut> nixiepixel: is this self spam?
[11:28] <GoNt1k> indus, im do this and restarted, now its not asking for installing flash, its just do nothing now)
[11:28] <lesshaste> gardar: it reads the ubuntu dvd ok...
[11:29] <gartral> lesshaste: are you trying to play a dvd movie?
[11:29] <lesshaste> gardar: I want to rip an audio cs
[11:29] <lesshaste> cd
you nead an audio manager or kill all apps with audio going
[11:30] <indus> GoNt1k: refresh the page,clear all private data first
[11:30] <gartral> lesshaste: ok... when you insert the disk, does an icon popup on your desktop that read "audio cd"?
[11:30] <nixiepixel> kraut - please, he was claiming I was a girl masquerading as a man. I decided to prove it.
[11:31] <l0nwlf_> insmod: how will we know apps with sound going, i'm not playing any media player now
[11:31] <indus> nixiepixel: nvm i was joking
what desktop
[11:31] <kraut> nixiepixel: definitly a sweet one, but that wasn't something for the chan i suppose ;)
[11:31] <kraut> nixiepixel: but anyhow, nevermind
[11:32] <lesshaste> gartral: an icon comes up saying "blank cd rom disc"
[11:32] <l0nwlf_> insmod: GNOME  2.26.1 , Dell inspiron 1525 ,
[11:32] <indus> lesshaste: maybe it is blank :P
[11:32] <milo_> backtrack. need help. Please
[11:32] <lesshaste> indus: it's an album :)
[11:32] <lesshaste> indus: it's not a cd rom at all
[11:33] <nixiepixel> indus - Sure, I was not entirely serious though the "self-spam" comment was mildly annoying. The videos are about Ubuntu, so I guess it is for the channel, but I could have just PM'd it...anyway, it isn't important, I'll go back to being quiet now.
[11:33] <Nashy> Wondering if someone can help me.  I'm installing Ubuntu after using F11 for a while
[11:33] <indus> nixiepixel: nice blog btw :)
[11:33] <Nashy> Grub fails installation and states its a fatal error
[11:33] <Nashy> It then boots to the live cd
[11:33] <iamleneko> Nashy, and the F11 key not work anymore ?
[11:33] <indus> lesshaste: can you please state your problem again
i have never used gnome but a web app can block it etc you can use esd etc to manage ---- or look at ps -aux I use blackbox so........
[11:34] <Nashy> I've been using Fedroa 11.  I want Ubuntu back, so I installed, and formatted the F11 partition as ext3, and at 94% it states the grub installer failed.
[11:34] <lesshaste> indus: I want to rip an audio cd... sound juicer doesn't see an audio cd at all and when I put it in I get an icon saying "blank cd rom" on the desktop
[11:35] <indus> lesshaste: hmm does brasero have this option ? i think rhythmox does rip cds
[11:36] <Nashy> Anyone?
[11:36] <milo_> indus: can you help me with backtrack?
[11:37] <indus> milo_: whats backtrack
[11:37] <l0nwlf_> insmod:  'ps -aux  | grep esd' shows no output .. no esd in my system
[11:37] <milo_> indus: it's a tool to crack wireless
[11:37] <indus> lesshaste: i think version of rhtyhmbox in jaunty rips cd's but iam not sure
[11:38] <kaduk> Hi
[11:38] <gartral> lesshaste: try a different cd, some cds cant be ripped
[11:38] <indus> milo_: are you having issues with wireless?
[11:38] <milo_> yes.
[11:38] <milo_> i can't find wireless drivers for my laptop
[11:38] <kaduk> I want to upgrade my girlfriends ekiga to 3.2.4 which depends on packages from jaunty, but she has interpid. I dont want to upgrade whole system since she has intel graphic and she cant fix it if it breaks.
[11:39] <Nashy> I've been using Fedroa 11.  I want Ubuntu back, so I installed, and formatted the F11 partition as ext3, and at 94% it states the grub installer failed..... Anyone...?
[11:39] <indus> GoNt1k: where did you download flash 64 from??
[11:39] <kaduk> Are there any ekiga packages for interpid ?
[11:39] <indus> milo_: which wireless card is it any idea?
[11:39] <indus> kaduk: of course there are
i never said you use esd i just said that is a manager to run more then one sound at a time
[11:39] <milo_> indus: to tell you the truth i have no clue about that
[11:40] <indus> milo_: good
[11:40] <genelisp> hi, I have a samba server with openldap and some winxp clients. I also have two ubuntu boxes that authenticate against openldap. I want to map user /home directories to the WinXP homes on the server at logon, how would I go about doing that?
[11:40] <iamleneko> Nashy, have not much idea, but maybe your cd is corrupted (not sure at all, but checking if the CD is well written would be a start)
[11:40] <genelisp> well I've looked at pam_mount yes but I'm not totally sure what to do... I could map /home to the profiles directory, but then the user will see NTUSER.dat and so on - I want something like ~/Documents will map to 'My Documents' so that the user doesn't see the difference logging on from a win machine or a linux machine
[11:40] <indus> milo_:check system>admin>hardware drivers
[11:40] <eshat> Hi all, how to replace all Enters(New Lines) with Spaces in sed ?
[11:40] <milo_> indus:ok
[11:40] <indus> milo_: also lspci and use pastebin
[11:40] <indus> !paste
[11:41] <indus> !toothpaste | indus
[11:41] <indus> sorry i didnt brush my teeth today "P
[11:41] <kaduk> indus, 3.4.2 for interpid ?
you're hot cat insmod | grep bonner > nixiepixel >> ahh!
[11:41] <indus> kaduk: packages.ubuntu.com
[11:41] <indus> kaduk: search for intrepid
[11:42] <l0nwlf_> insmod: i meant how will i know which manager my system use ?
[11:42] <indus> ok i go have soem tea
[11:42] <kaduk> indus, 2.0.2 :(
[11:42] <milo_> indus: i used lscpi and it output some stuff, which one is about the wireless card?
[11:42] <indus> kaduk: why do u need a version for intrepid?
[11:43] <kaduk> indus, 3.2.x
[11:43] <Nubuntuser> okay converted rpm to deb and tried to install deb but nothing happened
[11:43] <indus> kaduk: i suggest you directly download the latest package from website
[11:43] <Nubuntuser> sudo dpkg -i vmware-server_2.0.1-156745_i386.deb
[11:43] <Nubuntuser> Selecting previously deselected package vmware-server.
[11:43] <Nubuntuser> (Reading database ... 105297 files and directories currently installed.)
[11:43] <Nubuntuser> Unpacking vmware-server (from vmware-server_2.0.1-156745_i386.deb) ...
[11:43] <Nubuntuser> Setting up vmware-server (2.0.1-156745) ...
[11:43] <FloodBot1> Nubuntuser: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:43] <indus> kaduk: they have debs
[11:43] <milo_> indus: for my hardware drivers, also i can see is no proprietary drivers are in use
[11:43] <nixiepixel> insmod - heh, thanks
[11:43] <insmod> t<nixiepixel> I don' t know if gnome has one -- never used it ps -aux will tell everything -- also if nothing is running it could be as simple as you are running alsa with no oss -- /dev/dsp is oss
[11:44] <indus> milo_: in terminal type lspci and use paste
[11:44] <eshat> Or is there another way, to convert a list of words to one line, sperated by spaces ?
[11:44] <indus> milo_: paste the url here
[11:44] <indus> brb tea
[11:44]  * indus away 
[11:45] <milo_> indus:ok
[11:45] <mootz> milo_ : why don't you check backtrack website??
[11:45] <insmod> t<nixiepixel> so babe where do you live
[11:45] <nixiepixel> insmod - you don't know if gnome has one what? Did I miss something?
[11:46] <geirha> eshat: tr '\n' ' ' < infile > outfile
[11:46] <milo_> mootz: you are right, I should do that
[11:46] <milo_> indus:http://paste.ubuntu.com/194238/
[11:46] <insmod> t<nixiepixel>i never use gneome --- sucks -- i use fluxbox blackbox windowmaker etc --- his sound is blocked /dev/dpp
[11:46] <insmod> dsp
[11:46] <RaceCondition> can anyone check this out? http://dpaste.com/54523/
[11:46] <l0nwlf_> somewhere it was suggested to do 'echo "quake3.x86 0 0 direct" > /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/oss && quake3' in vain :(
[11:46] <RaceCondition> I'm trying to change/set a password for a user under Ubuntu Server, but failing
[11:47] <nixiepixel> insmod - oh, you wrote that to me, thus I was confused. California, by the way.
[11:47] <ubuntu> hi everybody
[11:47] <indus> milo_: ok its a SIS adapter
[11:48] <insmod> t<nixiepixel>he is running 2 sound apps at the same time he needs a manager esd or sorts or also oss module --- you look like you are from there  those California girls
[11:48] <indus> !sis
[11:48] <indus> damn bot
[11:48] <nixiepixel> insmod - Sorry, I'm new to IRC, are you sending that to me only, or the whole channel?
[11:49] <chenguoguang> gg
[11:49] <milo_> indus: so is the driver available?
[11:49] <eshat> geirha: that helped, thank you
[11:49] <alexis__> Hello everyone
[11:49] <alexis__> I'm trying to change the primary group for a user to another, and with the following command gives me error. See if you can help me alguiente
[11:50] <mootz> milo_ : i don't think so. Not all wireless is supported in backtrack
[11:50] <alexis__> sudo usermod-g groupnew user. But the shell returns me something like:usermod: no change
[11:51] <cycrosism> Is there a way to set my normal account "Mark" to have root privileges? im running ubuntu desktop 9.04
[11:51] <bazhang> milo_, you have backtrack installed? not Ubuntu?
[11:51] <mootz> but again maybe i'm wrong
[11:51] <jrib> alexis__: copy and paste exactly what is in your shell and put on paste.ubuntu.com
[11:51] <coz_> cycrosism,  I am not sure I understand  what do you need root privledges for in the user account?
[11:52] <alexis__> jrib, thanks
[11:52] <jrib> cycrosism: add him to the "admin" group
[11:52] <cycrosism> Becuase when I am writing files it wont work
[11:52] <milo_> bazhang: i downloaded backtrack on ubuntu. Now i want o install it on my hdd. I have it in ISO
[11:52] <jrib> cycrosism: writing files where?
[11:52] <|Ryan> Is this where I come for help with ubuntu?
[11:52] <cycrosism>  /x11/
[11:52] <jrib> |Ryan: yep, just ask your question
[11:52] <l0nwlf_> what is 'artsdsp' , does it work on jaunty ??
[11:52] <|Ryan> Okay/
[11:53] <|Ryan> I'm on ubuntu 9.04
[11:53] <|Ryan> And.
[11:53] <rob_p> alexis__, Does the new group exist?  That is a requirement.  Also, make sure there's a space between usermod and -g.
[11:53] <jrib> !enter | |Ryan
that would do it
[11:53] <nixiepixel> |Ryan - all on one line please!
[11:53] <kaduk> indus, latest for interpid is 3.0.1
that is kde sound manager
[11:53] <kaduk> indus, I want 3.2.x
[11:53] <|Ryan> I don't know how to get m wireless card working.
[11:53] <|Ryan> Oh, sorry.
[11:53] <jrib> !wireless > |Ryan
[11:53] <bazhang> milo_, paste.ubuntu.com with the output of lspci , and give us the link here
[11:54] <|Ryan> Thanks.
[11:54] <milo_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/194238/
[11:54] <bazhang> milo_, backtrack is supported in #remote-exploit should you need help with that
[11:54] <cycrosism> Unable to create new X config backup file /etc/x11/xorg.conf.backup
[11:54] <jrib> cycrosism: do you know about sudo?
[11:55] <l0nwlf_> insmod: oops , 'artsdsp -m quake3' will play quake , as it's told on quake forum but i think that should not work as it's gnome
[11:55] <indus> milo_: hi
[11:55] <bazhang> milo_, there appears to be no wireless device there
[11:55] <cycrosism> Yes
[11:55] <cycrosism> But im not running it in the terminal
[11:55] <milo_> bazhang:what's remote-exploit?
[11:55] <andrew___> HI
[11:55] <kenalex> hello
[11:56] <bazhang> #remote-exploit is the backtrack support channel milo_ , here is Ubuntu support
[11:56] <indus> milo_: aah yes there is no wireless device in your system
[11:56] <jrib> cycrosism: so what are you running exactly?
[11:56] <jrib> !who | cycrosism
[11:56] <andrew___> If I select update on ubuntu 8.04 does that mean it will update me to 8.10?
[11:56] <cankoy> RaceCondition: sudo passwd <username>
[11:56] <milo_> indus: i don't have wireless device??
[11:56] <indus> kaduk: why do u need that version of ekiga? i mean you could always download it from the ekiga website
[11:56] <c_korn> what's a good way to check if an internet connection is present. and which gives the answer after max. 2 seconds. ping -c 1 www.google.de -w 2  this code does not exit after 2 seconds if no connection is present
[11:56] <milo_> bazhang: ok, can u help me with the remote-exploit?
[11:56] <indus> milo_: i mean i dont see it there. Which laptop is it? and wireless works on windows?
[11:57] <bazhang> milo_, is it usb? try to paste.ubuntu.com the output of lsusb
[11:57] <kaduk> indus, notification feature and fixed bugs
[11:57] <indus> kaduk: try website for latest packages?
just load the module
[11:57] <manumar> hello
[11:57] <bazhang> milo_, /join #remote-exploit for help with backtrack
[11:57] <cycrosism> jrib, I am trying to make my second monitor work, as for some reason it's configuration is set to "Disabled" when i try to save my Configuration file, it won't let me write
[11:57] <l0nwlf_> insmod: how?
[11:57] <kaduk> indus, she is using those from website, but those are still pretty old
[11:57] <milo_> indus: it's chines laptop (my mom's gift so...) Hasee F1400
[11:57] <insmod> sudo artd
[11:57] <insmod> sudo artsd
[11:57] <manumar> I need help, I have just installed libapache-mod-perl2 but it doesnt work
[11:57] <jrib> cycrosism: again, where are you doing this exactly?
[11:57] <kaduk> indus, that why I am looking for backports
[11:58] <rob_p> c_korn, You could script a ping test or something similar.
[11:58] <cycrosism> System>Preferences>Display
[11:58] <indus> kaduk: she ?
[11:58] <kaduk> indus, I cant upgrade her system to jaunty since I am aboard and she has intel graphic
[11:58] <manumar> i have apache and i installed the moudele
[11:58] <kaduk> indus, yes my girlfriend laptop
[11:58] <alexis__> rob_p, both the group as the user exist, and the command syntax is OK. If used with-G if implemented correctly, but what I need is to use-g to be the primary group
[11:58] <manumar> but it doesnt run
[11:58] <kaduk> indus, she is using Ubuntu interpid
[11:58] <indus> kaduk: ok i get it now
[11:58] <|Ryan> If I'm attempting to set a PCI wireless adapter for master mode and it says invalid argument, in the terminal, what does that mean?
[11:58] <cycrosism> jrib, System>Preferences>Display
[11:58] <manumar> if i open in mozilla a script.pl it say me to download it
[11:58] <kaduk> indus, and I want to upgrade her ekiga version which we use to talk
[11:58] <manumar> aaaaa
[11:58] <indus> kaduk: can i give you a suggestion? Can you just try skype?
[11:58] <milo_> bazhang: thanks
or just load a real desktop with no sound manager and play like fluxbox
[11:59] <jrib> cycrosism: so you are never prompted for your password?
[11:59] <manumar> someone can help me please?
[11:59] <cycrosism> Nope jrib
[11:59] <indus> kaduk: also skype is encripted and it just gives you peace of mind
[11:59] <cycrosism> This is my first time trying Ubuntu really..
[11:59] <c_korn> rob_p: I already tried the ping approach. but the problem is that ping does not exit after 2 seconds (for whatever reasons) when I am connected to my wireless network at university but not logged in with vpn
[11:59] <l0nwlf_> insmod: installing fluxbox then :)
[12:00] <manumar> joder me cago en la puta
[12:00] <indus> milo_: does wireless work on windows with this laptop?
[12:00] <alexis__> rob_p when the file / etc / passwd, the user is not the primary group that I want
[12:00] <manumar> ayudadme ya cojones
[12:00] <geirha> c_korn: Maybe netcat is better. netcat -w 2 -z google.com 80 && echo connected || echo not connected
[12:00] <bazhang> manumar, stop that
[12:00] <manumar> mariconazo de mierda que cojones haceis
[12:00] <manumar> bazhang?
[12:00] <kaduk> indus, skype is broken
[12:00] <milo_> indus: yes. When I had windows before, it worked
[12:00] <milo_> bazhang: http://paste.ubuntu.com/194250/
[12:00] <indus> kaduk: what do you mean broken
[12:01] <rob_p> c_korn, Ping has options you should explore.  With the correct switch, you should be able to do what you want.
[12:01] <bazhang> milo_, I see no wireless devices there either
[12:01] <milo_> indus: but later on, it stopped working for some reasons i didn't know. Someone told me that my laptop doesn't have a wifi card
[12:01] <kaduk> indus, it does not work for me, since I have 64bit system and skype is using obsolete libasound API which was removed from recent version, that would mean installing additional 32bit library of libasound
[12:01] <manumar> I need help with perl2 apache module
[12:01] <mootz> milo_ : like i said not all wireless chipset is supported
[12:01] <bazhang> !ohmy | manumar
[12:01] <l0nwlf_> i have gnome running , to switch to fluxbox , will it be okay to simply pkill gdm and switch to fluxbox
[12:01] <|Ryan> Can someone help me, again, please?
[12:01] <c_korn> rob_p: -w should do the trick. but it does not
[12:02] <indus> kaduk: i too have 64 bit and skype is fine
it may still block dsp if alsa-oss is not installed
[12:02] <manumar> anyone know?
[12:02] <manumar> i will wait
[12:02] <c_korn> rob_p: brb. testing
[12:02] <kaduk> indus, asound version?
[12:02] <indus> kaduk: get skype from medibuntu
[12:02] <milo_> bazhang:how do you know if there is a wireless device or not?
[12:02] <cycrosism> So jrib what sohuld I do?
[12:02] <linduxed> i booted ubuntu from a usb stick (made with the inbuilt ubuntu creator), and after a short time the progressbar during bootup dumps me into a busybox built-in shell
[12:02] <kaduk> indus, I am not ubuntu uer
[12:02] <bazhang> milo_, there is none that I can see
[12:02] <linduxed> i have no idea why
[12:02] <kaduk> indus, I am on Debian, she has Ubuntu 32bit
[12:02] <cycrosism> I made the root password the same as this accounts one jrib
[12:02] <linduxed> totally reproducible
[12:03] <rob_p> alexis__, Are you sure you are doing, "usermod -g <newgroup> <user>" (with a space between usermod and -g)?  I only ask because when you posted, you didn't have a space between the command and the switch.
[12:03] <linduxed> every time i boot i get this
[12:03] <indus> kaduk: oh you cant install skype on ur system?
[12:03] <l0nwlf_> insmod: installed alsa-oss too
[12:03] <milo_> dazhang: damn
looks loaded
[12:03] <milo_> insmod: loaded? what?
[12:03] <jrib> cycrosism: it's probably a bug.  I've never used that feature so I don't know.  Setting a root password isn't necessary or recommonded and won't fix the issue.  You could try running that app with sudo.  Find out its name then run gksudo name_of_app
[12:03] <kaduk> indus, I can but it needs huge load of 32bit libraries and compiling older version of libasound
killa all sound apps or reboot easier then use flux and go!
[12:04] <cycrosism> jrib, how do i find out what the app is called?
[12:04] <indus> kaduk: so now you want to install ekiga 3.0.2 on your girlfriends system am i correct?
[12:04] <jrib> cycrosism: right click on the ubuntu icon -> edit menu
the card
[12:04] <milo_> mootz: so i can't use wireless even with the appropriate drivers?
[12:04] <kaduk> indus, she has 3.0.2, we want 3.2.
[12:04] <l0nwlf_> insmod: ok , thanks
[12:04] <indus> kaduk: cos you have 3.2?
[12:04] <manumar> someone know how to run great libapache2-mod-perl2?
sure looks like it is working
[12:05] <milo_> insmod: any good suggestion to get it working?
[12:05] <kaduk> indus, indeed, there are bug fixes
[12:05] <kaduk> indus, for example stoping video with certain codecs we want to use
what does ifconfig say
[12:05] <kaduk> indus, which gives better quality
[12:05] <milo_> insmod: wait a minute i will paste it
[12:05] <alexis__> rob_p, if the switch is going to run it separately (usermod -g)
[12:06] <rob_p> alexis__, Huh?
[12:06] <linduxed> i booted ubuntu from a usb stick (made with the inbuilt ubuntu creator), and after a short time the progressbar during bootup dumps me into a busybox built-in shell
[12:06] <indus> kaduk: so you mean its not possible to install lates t version on intrepid?
[12:06] <|Ryan> How can I install drivers for m intel PCI card?
[12:06] <|Ryan> My*
[12:06] <milo_> insmod: http://paste.ubuntu.com/194256/
[12:06] <mootz> milo_ : well maybe yes..
[12:06] <kaduk> indus, I could not find it, its only available for juanty, but I dont dare to upgrade her desktop since she has Intel gpu
[12:06] <rob_p> alexis__, Just try it:  usermod -g newgroup user
[12:07] <indus> kaduk: ya some bug with intel i heard
[12:07] <kaduk> indus, and I cant fix stuff remotely
[12:07] <cycrosism> jrib, the name of the app is just display
looks good surf
[12:07] <milo_> mootz: hmmm...
[12:07] <bazhang> milo_, that looks like a ralink card
[12:07] <jrib> cycrosism: I meant the command for it
[12:07] <indus> kaduk: why dont you install the jaunty version on intrepid? it should be fine no?
[12:08] <bazhang> milo_, what does sudo dhclient ra0 return (in terminal)
[12:08] <cycrosism> jrib, i did gksudo display
[12:08] <cycrosism> and nothing
chipset
[12:08] <kaduk> indus, ekiga depends on many packages
[12:08] <jrib> cycrosism: I mean, it's probably not display
[12:08] <indus> kaduk: hmm but i think the packages are all available individually from the site
[12:08] <bazhang> indus, kaduk not a good idea to mix repos/packages from different versions of Ubuntu
[12:08] <cycrosism> jrib, gnome-display-properties
[12:08] <jrib> cycrosism: gnome-display-properties, yes
[12:08] <kaduk> bazhang, indeed
[12:08] <drurew> drurew: could someone take a look at this and hit me with ideas of how this could happen ? thanks http://paste.ubuntu.com/194251/
[12:08] <indus> kaduk: bazhang:agreed
 just right the /etc/network/interfaces he is done
[12:09] <alexis__> rob_p, as you said earlier, the order is executed sudo usermod-G newgroup user
[12:09] <kaduk> indus, I would dare to do that on Debian, but not on Ubuntu
[12:09] <kaduk> I dont know Ubuntu
[12:09] <bazhang> milo_, do you have a wifi hotspot to test it on
[12:09] <indus> kaduk: so what other options do you have now
[12:09] <jrib> drurew: ubuntu version?
[12:09] <milo_> insmod - bazhang: http://paste.ubuntu.com/194260/
[12:09] <insmod> milo: just right the /etc/network/interfaces he is done
[12:09] <kaduk> indus, finding 3.2.x ekiga backports for Ubuntu interpid
[12:09] <bazhang> kaduk, any reason to get the higher version, apart from the bigger number?
[12:09] <kaduk> indus, building from source
[12:09] <indus> kaduk: that depends if anyone backported it yet
[12:10] <kaduk> bazhang, yes codec bug fixes
[12:10] <drurew> jrib:9.04
[12:10] <rob_p> alexis__, No.  I did not say that!  First, it's a lower case, "g" and second, there's supposed to be a space between the command and the switch!
[12:10] <indus> kaduk: you will build it from source and your gf will use it how?
[12:10] <c_korn> rob_p: this works better. thanks
[12:10] <insmod> milo: ya it is up just not started
[12:10] <ajah> how to resize window of mplayer trough the terminal
[12:10] <jrib> drurew: there was a bug like that but it was fixed before release.  I would check the bug tracker for ideas until someone else chimes in
[12:10] <milo_> bazhang: like a wifi usb stick?
[12:10] <insmod> milo: works great
[12:10] <jrib> ajah: check the -geometry switch in « man mplayer »
[12:11] <kaduk> indus, ?
[12:11] <bazhang> milo_, it seems there is a lease, though with the error may not be connected
[12:11] <cycrosism> jrib, Thank you for your help. Much appreciated
[12:11] <alexis__> rob_p, sorry, it's just like I'm doing (usermod -g newgroup user)
[12:11] <ajah> jrib k
 hmm i just said that
[12:11] <indus> milo_: i mean will your gf install it from her end?
[12:11] <patrik> Hi, I wanna make a bootable usb stick from a windows xp iso. usb-creator doesn't work with windows isos. Any suggestions?
[12:11] <indus> kaduk: sorry i dont think i can do much here
[12:11] <rob_p> alexis__, Yup.  That's the correct syntax.
[12:12] <bazhang> patrik, try ##windows for that
[12:12] <drurew> patrik: it dont have the same linux installer so it wont be recognised as a bootable image
[12:12] <rob_p> !spoonfeed
 ifconfig ra0 down then up or right the interfaces done!
[12:12] <rob_p> dang!
[12:12] <kaduk> indus, it would be great if someone could make backport, since 2.0.2 or 3.0.2 is really ancient version.
[12:12] <bazhang> insmod, should do
[12:12] <milo_> indus: i don't understand
[12:12] <bazhang> robp ??
[12:13] <rob_p> bazhang, Just curious, that's all.  :-)
[12:13] <patrik> bazhang: Well, the problem is that I don't have a bootable windows system so I need to do it from Ubuntu.
[12:13] <indus> milo_: oops sorr y was meant for kaduk
[12:13] <bazhang> rob_p, please /msg ubottu for such jokes
[12:14] <indus> milo_: bazhang: so he needs to start networking now?
[12:14] <bazhang> patrik, usb-creator won't recognize it
[12:14] <patrik> bazhang: nope :(
[12:14] <indus> /etc/init.d/networking start?
[12:14] <milo_> insmod-bazhang-indus: in windows, when i used "Fn and F10" the wireless sign used to flash, but since i installed ubuntu, it doesn't anymore
[12:14] <patrik> bazhang: And just using dd doesn't seem to work
[12:14] <alexis__> rob_p, I still returning    usermod: no change
[12:14] <bazhang> milo_, do you have the wifi switch set to off?
[12:14] <indus> milo_: ya thats called the kill switch in ubuntu
[12:15] <geirha> alexis__: Sure it hasn't already changed it? "getent passwd <username>"
[12:15] <rob_p> alexis__, Well, I don't know what else to tell you.  The command works.
[12:15] <milo_> bazhang-indus: where can i check that?
[12:15] <indus> milo_: nvm it
[12:15] <geirha> alexis__: Also note that you need to log in again in order for the membership to take effect
[12:16] <indus> milo_: restart system if you think you have the drivers
[12:16] <indus> bazhang: milo:bazhang, did he install any drivers? sorry i havent followed your conversation
[12:16] <milo_> indus: bazhang: nope i didn't install any driver so far
[12:17] <bazhang> indus, the card is recognized and gets a lease, but there is an error when getting the lease
[12:17] <bazhang> milo_, you don't need to
[12:17] <indus> bazhang: which is the card?
[12:17] <milo_> bazhang: there must be a problem somewhere then...
[12:18] <insmod> you guys are running in circles
[12:18] <alexis__> rob_p, I will try to change the gid instead of the group name
 it's done just bring it up
[12:19] <gartral> system just melted down virtually
[12:19] <alexis__> rob_p or changed directly in the file / etc / passwd
[12:20] <alexis__> rob_p, thank you very much for your patience
[12:20] <milo_> insmod: bazhang: indus: just hope i can get my wireless working.
[12:20] <samphippen> can I install the ubuntu netbook remix to a 2gb ssd?
these two retards don't know what they are doing just make an /etc/network/interfaces or use ifconfig to bring it up
[12:22] <bazhang> insmod, no need for that language
[12:22] <drurew> bazhang:  can you tell me what this might be ?http://paste.ubuntu.com/194251/
[12:22] <milo_> insmod: thanks, but easy. All of you guys are trying to help me and i appreciate that, even if it doesn't work
 I also love to help when i don't know what to do
[12:23] <indus> insmod: i didnt give him any advice btw so go fuck off
[12:24] <bazhang> !ohmy | indus
[12:24] <milo_> insmod: bazhang:indus: got permission denied when i try /etc/network...
so know you help him jerk off
[12:24] <drurew> milo_: sudo (command
[12:24] <drurew> )
[12:24] <indus> bazhang: wow great he called you a retard and you are warning me?
[12:24] <nqqqln> hell0
[12:24] <nqqqln> yes
[12:25] <nqqqln> i an
[12:25] <nqqqln> i am
[12:25] <milo_> drurew: im already in as root
[12:25] <drurew> milo_:no idea ....
[12:26] <bazhang> drurew, eth32?
[12:26]  * insmod  cat <indus> | grep > asshole
[12:26] <milo_> drurew: that's what i thought. there might be smthn wrong
[12:26] <rob_p> Alright guys... calm down and keep it family friendly!
[12:27] <drurew> bazhang: yeah after each boot eth get knocked up a notch , bang . like eth12 then eth2, eth3 etc . nervy it is
[12:27] <milo_> insmod: still there? What are the steps to bring it up?
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[12:28] <bazhang> drurew, please paste the output of lspci to paste.ubuntu.com and give us the url
[12:28] <drurew> bazhang: notice how I assigned its correct mac address, however ifconfig keeps listing it as "other"
[12:28] <bazhang> drurew, yes and the wmaster0/wlan0 issue
[12:29] <drurew> bazhang: http://paste.ubuntu.com/194275/
[12:30] <|Ryan> How can install my PCI network card?
[12:30] <|Ryan> Anyone know?
[12:30] <matrixblue> |Ryan, what kind is it?
[12:30] <bazhang> drurew, this is desktop or server?
[12:31] <drurew> |Ryan: what is it for a card?
[12:31] <|Ryan> Dell, I think.
[12:31] <frankS2> |Ryan: ifconfig -a check if its not already there
[12:31] <paulo----> can jaunty be burnt on a dvd?
[12:31] <matrixblue> |Ryan, have you already physically installed it?
[12:31] <drurew> bazhang: its my controller desktop
[12:31] <qdb> hello
[12:31] <|Ryan> I have it installed on windows, on the same hard disc.
[12:32] <|Ryan> And yeah, it's internal.
[12:32] <paulo----> i mean the installer
[12:32] <qdb> is ubuntu's repository publically anonymously available to look as directories with files? where is its address? i will search
[12:32] <matrixblue> |Ryan, Ubuntu doesn't work it it automatically I'm guessing. Which version of Ubuntu are you running?
[12:33] <erUSUL> qdb: deb files ?
[12:33] <|Ryan> 9.04
[12:33] <drurew> |Ryan: open a terminal : lspci, will give us some better input on your card and its chipset , just paste the line corresponding to your device
[12:33] <qdb> yes
[12:33] <bazhang> drurew, I seem to remember this issue, let me check the forums for a second
[12:33] <qdb> erUSUL, yes
[12:33] <Ampelbein> qdb: what are you trying to to? packages.ubuntu.com is a complete list of packages.
[12:33] <Cry__Baby> whats a good ftp client for ubuntu?
[12:33] <frankS2> Cry__Baby: lftp
[12:33] <erUSUL> qdb: packages.ubuntu.com
[12:33] <qdb> Ampelbein, browse repository as directory
[12:33] <Cry__Baby> frankS2: apt-get install lftp?
[12:33] <qdb> may be through ftp
[12:33] <Cry__Baby> frankS2: is it GUI?
[12:33] <frankS2> Cry__Baby: sure
[12:34] <matrixblue> Cry__Baby, Filezilla
[12:34] <Ampelbein> qdb: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/karmic/main/
[12:34] <milo_> insmod: ...?
[12:34] <paulo----> will i void my warranty if I dualboot vista and ubuntu on my laptop?
[12:34] <qdb> ok
[12:34] <Ampelbein> qdb: but i still don't get why you want to do thatß
[12:34] <qdb> thank you
[12:34] <|Ryan> How do i copy and paste a terminal line?
[12:34] <Cry__Baby> matrixblue: is filezilla in repos?
[12:34] <chetnick> Cry__Baby: gftp
[12:34] <matrixblue> Cry__Baby, yeah
[12:34] <drurew> paulo----:no way !"!!!!
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[12:34] <Cry__Baby> gftp or filezilla?  lets take vote?
[12:34] <Donnie> |Ryan:  duh - EDIT
[12:34] <Donnie> :|
[12:34] <chetnick> :)
[12:34] <Donnie> >.>
[12:34] <|Ryan> Sorry.
[12:34] <chetnick> gftp
[12:35] <Boohbah> paulo----: you could find that out by... reading the warranty
[12:35] <|Ryan> I'm very new to ubuntu.
[12:35] <Donnie> so am i >.>
[12:35] <Cry__Baby> gftp it is then
[12:35] <milo_> insmod: yes but i got permission denied
[12:35] <matrixblue> paulo----, warranties are usually voided by doing hardware related stuff
[12:35] <chetnick> I have to be honest, i never tried filezilla
[12:35] <Ampelbein> qdb: and http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/ is the correct address, had the wrong one in my clipboard.
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[12:35] <qdb> ok
[12:35] <drurew> |Ryan: same like in windows, right click, copy then paste
[12:35] <milo_> insmod: i am actually, but still
[12:35] <millie`> dang
[12:35] <millie`> so many users :|
[12:35] <|Ryan> Ohhh
[12:36] <cadu> i tried making a USB stick from a 9.04 iso but the thing fails
[12:36] <|Ryan> I was using theAwn Terminal.
[12:36] <milo_> insmod:i know it's weird, but it's also true
not possible
[12:36] <|Ryan> The Awn*
[12:36] <cadu> it BOOTS, ubuntu "progress bar" keeps going on
[12:36] <matrixblue> |Ryan, open the terminal and type lspci and copy and paste the output there into www.paste.ubuntu.com
[12:36] <cadu> then it drops me to a shell
[12:36] <theFunzo> is there an easy to use program for ubuntu where you can make music?
[12:36] <cadu> in a minimal enviroment, like all busybox
[12:36] <cadu> i think i'm inside the initrd that's it
[12:36] <millie`> Go look in your add or remove stuff :x duh :x
[12:36] <matrixblue> cadu,  does the live CD work on the same machine?
[12:37] <cadu> matrixblue: it's a netbook, no cdrom drive ;(
[12:37] <|Ryan> http://paste.ubuntu.com/194281/
[12:37] <|Ryan> There.
[12:37] <cadu> matrixblue: this was the reason last time i went with debian netinstall ;D
[12:37] <cadu> really wanna try ubuntu on this netbook
[12:37] <cadu> not much time to tweak everything from the ground up again
[12:38] <drurew> |Ryan: yes now which card is it that you want to install ?
[12:38] <matrixblue> |Ryan, good it's intel check their site for the drivers
[12:38] <|Ryan> The network card. ;o
[12:38] <Cry__Baby> chetnick: yes gftp will be good
[12:38] <|Ryan> I'm running from my ethernet atm.
[12:38] <kevinn> hi
[12:38] <milo_> insmod: take a look at what im getting "bash: /etc/network/interfaces: Permission denied"
[12:38] <indus> milo_: how are things going , could you try iwconfig command in terminal
[12:38] <matrixblue> cadu, did you use the live usb creator or did you do a regular install on a usb flash drive?
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[12:39] <cadu> matrixblue: i used the uNetbootIN app that people told me was a breeze...
[12:39] <drurew> |Ryan:wireless of ethernet?
[12:39] <cadu> matrixblue: ill try another way
[12:39] <Armageddon> hello, i closed nano by mistake ! but its still in the PS ! can i reopen it having the PID ?
[12:39] <drurew> |Ryan:* or
[12:39] <indus> milo_: sudo iwconfig wlan0 up
[12:39] <Cry__Baby> is there a good small WYSIWYG Html editor?
[12:39] <milo_> indus: yes
[12:39] <|Ryan> Yeah, I wanna install a wireless adapter.
[12:39] <matrixblue> cadu, there's a built in Ubuntu live usb creator in the repos
[12:39] <simplexio> Ampelbein: with ctrl+z ? then "fg"
[12:39] <drurew> |Ryan: wireless, let me get you a link
[12:39] <indus> milo_: did that already?
[12:39] <indus> ok
[12:39] <sipior> Armageddon: not unless you started it with screen or the like, i'm afraid.
[12:40] <matrixblue> cadu it's installed by default on the live cd I believe
[12:40] <drurew> !BCM4311
[12:40] <drurew> !Broadcom
[12:40] <Armageddon> simplexio: thanks !
[12:40] <milo_> indus:http://paste.ubuntu.com/194283/
[12:40] <|Ryan> Eeeeeee.
[12:40] <|Ryan> Tyvm.
[12:40] <insmod> idiot's
[12:41] <cadu> matrixblue: cool
[12:41] <Cry__Baby> !Nvu
[12:41] <cadu> matrixblue: i'll try BOOTING the livecd and generating from there
[12:41] <cadu> matrixblue: must be way better than a general syslinux crappy rewriter thingy
[12:41] <matrixblue> cadu, good stuff
[12:41] <|Ryan> Okay.
[12:41] <|Ryan> I'm gonna try install those files, thanks alot :DDDD
[12:41] <indus> insmod: if you can solve his problem why dont u?
[12:41] <milo_> indus: "wlan0     No such device"
[12:41] <cadu> matrixblue: thanks ;) trying right now ;P
[12:42] <milo_> insmod: please tell me how to do it correctly
[12:42] <indus> milo_: sudo iwconfig ra0 up iam not sure this is right though
[12:43] <milo_> indus: ok i'll always try, but it doesn't recognize the command up
[12:44] <indus> milo_: sudo ifconfig ra0 up iam not sure this is right though
[12:44] <indus> sorry its ifconfig
[12:44] <indus> milo_: sudo ifconfig ra0 up
[12:45] <|Ryan> Drurew: Where can I download b42-fwcutter from?
[12:46] <indus> milo_: now go and check in sytem>admin>networking under wireless devices
[12:46] <milo_> indus: do u want the output for both iwconfig ra0 and ifconfig ra0?
[12:46] <bazhang> milo_, have you enabled the root account?
[12:46] <indus> milo_: no only ifconfig ra0 up
[12:47] <milo_> bazhang: yes, but  i don't why i don't have some permissions
[12:47] <bazhang> milo_, you are using sudo, or have set the root password
[12:47] <drurew> |Ryan: google it
[12:47] <milo_> bazhang: i entered sudo bash and typed my password
[12:48] <bazhang> !broadcom > |Ryan
[12:48] <bazhang> milo_, why did you do that. you only need to use sudo or gksudo
[12:49] <jiel_jack_> how to install delphi in ubuntu?
[12:49] <milo_> indus: http://paste.ubuntu.com/194290/
[12:49] <milo_> bazhang: oupps... i thought they were the same things. I can see im wrong
[12:50] <manumar> this is correct?
[12:50] <manumar> http://paste.ubuntu.com/194282/
[12:50] <bazhang> milo_, you have a lease and are connected
[12:52] <milo_> bazhang: please what the real difference between sudo, gksudo and sudo bash?
[12:53] <bazhang> !gksudo > milo_
[12:53] <rob_p> manumar, You should probably not combine the two vhosts but instead, create a separate vhost and then enable it with the, "a2ensite" command.
[12:53] <bazhang> milo_, dont ask for help in cracking wireless here.
[12:54] <milo_> bazhang: it is not for backtrack
[12:54] <nectar> is there anyone who is having trouble with mounting sony mp3 player in 9.04?
[12:54] <milo_> bazhang: i installed vpnc on my laptop and i can't use it because it looks like my wifi card is not working
[12:55] <mathew> Hello, there im abit stuck in ubuntu, i accidently pressed the button on my laptop to disable the touchpad , but when i press it again it doesnt re-enable it, i have even tried rebooting my laptop and it doesnt work. How do i get my touch pad working again Im finding it hard to use the computer without a mouse well touch pad and i aint got a spare mouse
[12:55] <|Ryan> Drurew: I downloaded the b43-fwcutter, I don't understand what to next. I've extracted it. Now what?
[12:55] <bazhang> nectar, which apps have you tried? rhythmbox, gtkpod, banshee, etc
[12:55] <drurew> !ndiswrapper
[12:56] <drurew> |Ryan: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[12:56] <mathew> Any help in re enabling my touch pad :\
[12:56] <fumbles> ? how'd to disable
[12:56] <fumbles>  it
[12:56] <mathew> i press function button and f6
[12:56] <nectar> bazhang, rhytmbox is working fine but i want to be able to use it like a storage device
[12:56] <mathew> but it wouldn't re enable
[12:57] <|Ryan> Yeah, that's what I'm on.
[12:57] <fumbles> mathew: some combo of function and an F button probably
[12:57] <nectar> bazhang, i wish i could browse by using nautilus.
[12:57] <|Ryan> How do I install the package.
[12:57] <J-_> !touchpad > mathew
[12:57] <|Ryan> ??*
[12:57] <milo_> bazhang: i don't want help to crack wireless, but just to get my wireless working!
[12:57] <mathew> how do i get to that, im in irssi
[12:58] <Boohbah> mathew: ctrl+n
[12:58] <mathew> ctrl + n displays my last message
[12:58] <Boohbah> mathew: press it some more, ctrl+p too
[12:58] <cadu> to crack wireless: Ctrl+F , Jump 2 times. you should see the password just about at the time you finish your second jump ;)
[12:58] <matrixblue> |Ryan,  b43-fwcutter is in synaptic. Open the package manager and search for it. It'll download and install for you
[12:58] <nectar> mathew goto system > preferences> mouse >touchpad an enable it
[12:59] <mathew> how do i get there
[12:59] <mathew> without the mouse
[12:59] <troythetechguy> I'm considering switching from VMware to VirtualBox.  What are you hearing for the future of VirtualBox?
[12:59] <nectar> by using keybord use tab key
[12:59] <milo_> bazhang: is obuttu ur bot?
[12:59] <EisRegeN> troythetechguy: Vbox is more free than VMware  ;)
[12:59] <mathew> it wont get up there
[12:59] <Pici> !bot | milo_
[12:59] <mathew> ive tried
[12:59] <Boohbah> troythetechguy: well, oracle bought sun a couple months ago
[12:59] <lompfong> mathew, aptitude
[12:59] <matrixblue> troythetechguy, we have no idea because Sun just hot bought by Oracle
[12:59] <sipior> milo_: he's a community pet.
[13:00] <matrixblue> got*
[13:00] <mathew> aptitude?
[13:00] <troythetechguy> Boohbah: Yeah, and that is why I'm concerned if VB will remain open & free.
[13:00] <drurew> |Ryan: what do you need help with exsactly
[13:00] <Boohbah> troythetechguy: i imagine it will
[13:00] <lompfong> mathew, its the cli synaptics.
[13:00] <milo_> sipior: what's his role?
[13:00] <jamiewan> mathew: get a spare mouse or you should be able to tab about
[13:00] <Pici> troythetechguy: Why not ask in #vbox, where this would be more on-topic
[13:00] <troythetechguy> So it sounds like everything is still "up in the air" re: VB.
[13:00] <mathew> i aint got a spare
[13:00] <|Ryan> Ahh
[13:01] <|Ryan> I'm installing the firmware, via the snaptic installer
[13:01] <sipior> milo_: it's all explained in the links Pici sent you.
[13:01] <|Ryan> synaptic*
[13:01] <troythetechguy> Pici: Thanks, I did a search for "virtual box" , but did not find anything.  I'll try there.
[13:01] <lompfong> mathew, *sigh* alt+fX
[13:01] <Cry__Baby> how can you make gftp save password for login?
[13:01] <mathew> alt fx?
[13:01] <milo_> sipior:ok
[13:01] <mathew> whats fx? fn?
[13:01] <fumbles> ? huh
[13:02] <lompfong> mathew, yes. e.g. alt + F2 or F3 or FSOMETHING
[13:02] <mathew> ah
[13:02] <jamiewan> try them all ant test it after each press
[13:02] <|Ryan> Okay, I've installed the b43-fwcutter. Will my network card be installed and in-use when I reboot?
[13:02] <anr78> I have a laptop with ati graphics and a 1400x1050 resolution, and a docking station with a secondary display of 1900x1200 connected. Is there a way I can make compiz run with this config?
[13:03] <matrixblue> mathew, alt + f2 then gnome-mouse-properties
[13:03] <mathew> what should alt + f2 do
[13:03] <mathew> its not doing anything
[13:04] <lompfong> mathew, r u in X ?!!?!
[13:04] <matrixblue> mathew, in gnome it opens the run dialog
[13:04] <mathew> im in gnome
[13:04] <|Ryan> Okay, I've installed the b43-fwcutter. Will my network card be installed and in-use when I reboot?
[13:04] <mathew> but its not opening run
[13:04] <lompfong> mathew, the just open antoher terminal and do aptitude
[13:05] <erUSUL> |Ryan: you shouldn't need to reboot
[13:05] <erUSUL> |Ryan: reload the driver
[13:05] <matrixblue> mathew, are you using ubuntu or kubuntu?
[13:05] <|Ryan> How?
[13:05] <|Ryan> How do I reload it?
[13:05] <Cry__Baby> hello Ryan
[13:05] <erUSUL> |Ryan: « sudo modprobe -r b43 && sudo modprobe b43 »
[13:05] <mathew> im using ubuntu
[13:05] <matrixblue> lompfong, I'm curious as to how aptitude would help him
[13:05] <lompfong> matrixblue, he has no mouse and needs something no?
[13:06] <matrixblue> lompfong, he's trying to renable the trackpad
[13:06] <mathew> i got into mouse propteries but theres nothing about enable touchpad i got into system>preferences>mouse
[13:06] <|Ryan> OMFG
[13:06] <nectar> mathew, pres Alt +F2
[13:06] <|Ryan> I *LOVE* you, Drurew.
[13:06] <lompfong> matrixblue, by bad then
[13:06] <matrixblue> mathew, there isn't a tab that says trackpad?
[13:06] <mathew> it types ;3Q in here
[13:06] <nectar> then type gnome-mouse-properties
[13:06] <nectar> use arrow keys
[13:07] <dollarbang1> good morning
[13:07] <dollarbang1> can someone help me with snmp
[13:08] <mathew> in the mouse properties theres notihng about my touch pad there was before .... when i first installed i remember
[13:08] <mathew> i manged to open a terminal and type gnome-mouse-properties but it isnt in there
[13:08] <matrixblue> mathew, this means the touchpad is actually turned off physically. Maybe something in your BIOS can re-enable it
[13:09] <milo_> insmod: http://paste.ubuntu.com/194308/ this the output of my ifconfig, should i modify something?
[13:10] <mathew> its redicluous lol my unbuntu crashed  but my touchpad worked so i hit some f buttons to see if i could get anything else to react but it stop my touchpad from working
[13:10] <eternaljoy> hi
[13:10] <lordhackross> ciao
[13:10] <drurew> |Ryan: who said love?
[13:10] <drurew> |Ryan: whats wrong
[13:10] <Myrtti>      /^msg chanserv op #ubuntu
[13:10] <matrixblue> mathew, talk about ironic
[13:10] <lordhackross> hello
[13:11] <mathew> whats ironic?
[13:11] <lordhackross> yes
[13:11] <matrixblue> mathew you situation. but try using the function f5 outside of ubuntu
[13:12] <mathew> k
[13:12] <mathew> brb
[13:13] <matrixblue> Myrtti, what did eternaljoy do?
[13:13] <Myrtti> matrixblue: evaded a ban
[13:14] <matrixblue> Myrtti, oh okay just curious
[13:14] <zetheroo> is the ATI Technologies Inc RV370 secondary [Sapphire X550 Silent] card supported in Ubuntu Jaunty?
[13:16] <cadu> matrixblue: hey thanks for your help
[13:16] <zetheroo> anyone in here?
[13:17] <cadu> matrixblue: i found a premade boot.img in ubuntu website
[13:17] <oenone> help on volume control
[13:17] <cadu> matrixblue: boots the installation in netinstall mode , using the text installer ! yeeehaw!
[13:17] <matrixblue> cadu, glad to be of assistance
[13:17] <cadu> matrixblue: even if i have the iso downloaded here it doesnt matter!!! japan's internet are so frigging fast that i can download it again via netinstall ;)
[13:18]  * cadu is on an unmetered 100mbit/100mbit FTTH ;D
[13:18] <oenone> help on ubuntu please
[13:18] <matrixblue> cadu, wow!!!!!
[13:18] <kalon33> zetheroo : it seems supported, but I never tested
[13:18] <oenone> need help on volume control
[13:18] <cadu> matrixblue: i know! when i moved here i was using like puny 20mbit, now that i'm on FTTH, it's all glory dude!
[13:19] <zetheroo> ﻿kalon33: where do you find if its supported or not?
[13:19] <muslih> help KDENLIVE please...
[13:19] <matrixblue> cadu mine is 3 mbit
[13:19] <Pici> !ot
[13:19] <cadu> matrixblue: when i get japanese peers in p2p or japanese mirrors i easily reach 9/10MB per sec.... just frigging mind-blowing
[13:19] <kalon33> zetheroo: google, french ubuntu forums and support websites
[13:19] <zetheroo> ﻿kalon33: you have a link?
[13:19] <matrixblue> cadu, wow......
[13:20] <cadu> matrixblue: in my home country (brazil) if you have like 5mbit, you can like show off while your friends drool like *WOW, 5..*
[13:20] <zetheroo> ﻿kalon33: where did you find its supported?
[13:20] <matrixblue> cadu, lol
[13:20] <cadu> matrixblue: i tell them i've already downloade stuff at the maximum rate my home network allows, and they treat me like crap ;D
[13:20] <Pici> cadu, matrixblue: This is a support channel, if you want to chat you can join #ubuntu-offtopic or take the discussion to private message, thanks.
[13:20] <cadu> Pici: okay ;) sorry, got a little carried away.
[13:21] <kalon33> zetheroo, http://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?id=168372 http://www.commentcamarche.net/forum/affich-12637344-probleme-acceleration-graphique
[13:21] <zetheroo> ﻿kalon33: tks
[13:21] <zetheroo> ﻿kalon33: :) french ..
[13:22] <kalon33> zetheroo : I said to you "french ubuntu forums" ^^
[13:22] <ibrahim> hi. i installed ntfs-config on my ubuntu 9.04. But i can't see it on the applications menu (system tools). how can i geti it work?
[13:22] <zetheroo> ﻿ kalon33: yeah .. no worries :)
[13:22] <cadu> is Ext4 already safe to be used ?
[13:22] <kalon33> zetheroo : you prefer I search some in english ?
[13:23] <cadu> are there some gains in using it with portable stuff like netbooks, longer commit time = a bit more runtime?
[13:23] <drurew> !forcedeth
[13:23] <drurew> !nvidia
[13:23] <zetheroo> ﻿ kalon33: don't worry .. I can do that as well .. :) I am not that lazy - ha ... I was just hoping to find someone who had experience with it ...
[13:23] <cadu> and, can ubuntu's grub already boot from ext4?
[13:23] <kalon33> cadu : it is considered as not full stable, but I'm having no trouble using it on my computer since a while, and it will be the default on install for karmic
[13:24] <geirha> cadu: Should be safe as soon as this is fixed https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/330824
[13:24] <ibrahim> hi. i installed ntfs-config on my ubuntu 9.04. But i can't see it on the applications menu (system tools). how can i geti it work?
[13:24] <cadu> geirha: just asked because it is available in the install....thought it was already being used extensively....well whatever, thanks ;P
[13:24] <oenone> help on volume control please
[13:25] <Myrtti> cadu: it's available on install, but isn't offered by default
[13:25] <sipior> ibrahim: try running "ntfs-config" from a terminal.
[13:25] <Myrtti> cadu: there are bugs that prevent it from offered as such
[13:25] <oenone> help on volume control
[13:25] <cadu> Myrtti: thanks , i'm going with the usual, ext3
[13:25] <sipior> oenone: care to be more specific?
[13:25] <cadu> Myrtti: being hearing good stuff on ReiserFS...heard it's a killer!
[13:26] <cadu> ;P
[13:26] <oenone> can i control the volume of the media player with the volume controller on my desktop???
[13:26] <oenone> @sipior
[13:26] <sipior> oenone: saying "my computer's broke" doesn't really give us much to go on
[13:26] <deany> im using ext4 with no problems.  my friend still suffers from the "lockup upon deleting large files" bug tho.  he`s up to date too.
[13:26] <namzezam> hi, how to get hebrew dictionary file for local use for opendict ?
[13:27] <Boohbah> namzezam: sudo apt-get install opendict-plugins-lingvosoft
[13:27] <sipior> oenone: i think the resulting sound level is more or less the product of the application and master volume settings, so you could change either one.
[13:27] <koichirose> hello, I just pressed ctrl-x to cut a file from the desktop to another folder. Upon pasting it seems that nautilus crashed and restarted and my desktop is now totally empty (although I see the contents from nautilus). It's the second time, what could it be? 904 x64
[13:27] <OOT> hello ubuntuers...
[13:27] <Boohbah> !hi | OOT
[13:28] <oenone> so if i want to change the volume on the music that im playing , i have to lower it on the volume control of my media player ???
[13:28] <geirha> koichirose: nautilus is responsible for drawing the desktop, so it sounds like it failed to start the desktop-part when it got restarted. Try restarting it manually with "killall nautilus"
[13:28] <ziroday> oenone: or through pulseaudio
[13:29] <namzezam> hi, how to get Hebrew dictionary file for local use for opendict ?
[13:29] <OOT> I have problem with configuring IRCD daemon... please someone be so kind to guide me...
[13:29] <sipior> oenone: yes, or the master volume, whichever.
[13:29] <koichirose> geirha: no luck
[13:30] <geirha> koichirose: Hm. Try running "nautlius --check" Does it show any problems?
[13:30] <geirha> koichirose: sorry, nautilus --check
[13:31] <koichirose> geirha:  mm no, a series of 'running nautilus_self_check......'
[13:31] <koichirose> geirha: if I reboot it usually works
[13:32] <jamiewan> Hi anyone know of an up to date list of compatible printers for Ubuntu gotta buy a new one
[13:33] <geirha> koichirose: Open ~/.xsession-errors in an editor. See if you see any error messages from nautilus
[13:33] <ziroday> jamiewan: nearly all HP printers work, they are a safe bet
[13:34] <ziroday> jamiewan: usually its more helpful to find a printer you want to buy, and then seeing how compatible it is :)
[13:34] <jamiewan> thank you ziroday, is it true that if OS listed is mac that it will work with linux
[13:34] <ziroday> jamiewan: not that I know of
[13:35] <NaCl> !apt
[13:35] <ziroday> jamiewan: but both macs and ubuntu use CUPS, so that could be the case
[13:35] <skyfolly> what is it with this exception emask thing, so annoying
[13:35] <Myrtti> !printing | jamiewan
[13:35] <zetheroo> will this driver work in Ubuntu 9.04?  I don't really get what all that text means about moving to legacy etc ...        http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/Legacy/Pages/radeon_linux.aspx?type=2.4.1&product=2.4.1.3.20&lang=English
[13:35] <jamiewan> ziroday, ubottu ok cheers
[13:36] <koichirose> geirha: should I look for something specific? It seems it logs pretty much everything and this happened about an hour ago (and there's no timestamp)
[13:36] <ziroday> zetheroo: if you are trying to use the old fglrx driver it won't as it won't compile against the new Xserver in jaunty
[13:36] <aly> join #ubuntu-fr
[13:37] <aly> \join #ubuntu-fr
[13:37] <zetheroo> ﻿ziroday: so in effect this card (X550) will not work in Jaunty?
[13:37] <koichirose> geirha: Window manager warning: meta_window_activate called by a pager with a 0 timestamp; the pager needs to be fixed.
[13:37] <ziroday> zetheroo: what does lspci | grep VGA output?
[13:37] <zetheroo> ﻿ziroday: ATI Technologies Inc RV370 [Sapphire X550 Silent]
[13:38] <turneralex> Heyyyy im trying to install ubuntu on a sparc machine and the installer crashes just after "detecting disks and other hardware"  any ideas??
[13:38] <zetheroo> ﻿ziroday: I am inquiring on behalf of my father-in-law who has this card
[13:38] <legend2440> is ther an up to date list of video cards that work with Jaunty. ever since the upgrade from xserver 1.5 to 1.6 my radeon 9600 tv out has stopped working
[13:38] <zetheroo> ﻿ziroday: and he wants to upgrade to 9.04 ... but is under the impression that the card is not supported
[13:38] <ziroday> zetheroo: the open source radeon driver supports that card, doing the upgrade will automagically migrate him to that
[13:38] <exodus_ms> !hardware
[13:39] <legend2440> exodus_ms: thanks
[13:39] <Boohbah> turneralex: which version? i don't think recent releases support sparc
[13:39] <ziroday> zetheroo: he is correct that the closed source fglrx driver no longer supports that card, but the open source radeon driver does
[13:39] <klenix> how to exploring file inside Nokia 6630 which connected via usb to pc with ubuntu Jaunty.
[13:39] <ziroday> legend2440: that card should be supported by the -radeon driver
[13:39] <zetheroo> ﻿ziroday: and can Desktop Effects work with the os driver?
[13:39] <turneralex> Boohbah: not to usre
[13:39] <ziroday> zetheroo: yes
[13:40] <shashwat> Is rhere any good graphcal bootloader?
[13:40] <turneralex> the only one i could find onuybuntu.org
[13:40] <aly> ziroday, zetheroo, i think that ati catalyst 9.3 supports this card
[13:40] <Myrtti> klenix: turn the file transfer mode on when connecting cable and you're good to go
[13:40] <m1chael> i have a new ubuntu server.. (never used ubuntu before. coming from freebsd..)  .. im trying to get postfix running.. (i guess there is no MTA enabled by default?) i see this article. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix # is this the way i should install it? "sudo aptitude install postfix" ??/
[13:40] <zetheroo> ﻿aly: yes .. but the driver will not work in 9.04
[13:40] <zetheroo> :)
[13:40] <exodus_ms> legend2440, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/369146
[13:40] <ziroday> m1chael: yep, that's how you should install it
[13:40] <zetheroo> ﻿ziroday: thank you for clearing that up
[13:41] <aly> zetheroo, it seems to me that there is a trick to make it work in 9.04
[13:41] <zetheroo> ﻿aly: could you email the info to me? .. I have to run out ...
[13:41] <exodus_ms> legend2440, I haven't looked at this whole thread but it looks like it might help as well --> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=7110739&postcount=23
[13:41] <turneralex> Boohbah: The latest sparc distro on ubuntu.org :S
[13:41] <Boohbah> shashwat: there is grubsplash but it just gives you a background image for the text version of grub
[13:41] <aly> zetheroo, i've readed it in ubuntu-frs' doc
[13:41] <klenix> Myrtti: when connecting, there is no option.
[13:41] <Boohbah> turneralex: so, 6.06?
[13:41] <roy_hobbs> Hey can someone help me out, I'm trying to do a "Frugal" install from Unetbootin.  I set it up on the windows end, but then when I boot to Ubuntu Live and run Ubiquity, the partition manager doesn't see the Hard drive
[13:42] <turneralex> Boohbah:  thats the oneee
[13:42] <Myrtti> klenix: on your phone?
[13:42] <Myrtti> klenix: should be!
[13:42] <aly> zetheroo, well it's a french doc, but let me find you the english one
[13:42] <m1chael> i chose 'no configuration' with postfix.. was that bad?
[13:42] <Boohbah> m1chael: it means you'll have to configure it manually
[13:42] <zetheroo> ﻿aly: I am PMing you ... can you see?
[13:43] <Boohbah> m1chael: what version of ubuntu?
[13:43] <klenix> Myrtti: there is no option on this phone. but on my another hp, G502-SE there is option.
[13:43] <legend2440> ziroday: yes i agree it should. tv out works great with intrepid and fglrx but with Jaunty and the radeon drivers tv out just flips like a vertical hold problem. that happened with intrepid also but i was able to fix it with  Option TvStandard  ntsc in xorg.conf. but nothing fixes it with Jaunty
[13:43] <aly> zetheroo, yeah
[13:43] <sipior> m1chael: depends on whether you wanted to use your machine as a mail server or not, i imagine :-)
[13:43] <ziroday> legend2440: hmm I don't know about that specific problem. #radeon might
[13:44] <legend2440> ziroday: ok thanks
[13:44] <ziroday> m1chael: no it means you just have to configure it manually yourself
[13:44] <royalwarecast> are there any apps can compile jad file from jar in linux
[13:45] <royalwarecast> even without GUI is OK
[13:45] <OOT> Help me... how to grab raw dv with dvgrab?
[13:45] <annimar> is there a sane way to get a lexmark x5150 to work in jaunty
[13:45] <m1chael> Ubuntu Ubuntu 8.04-64 LAMP
[13:47] <shashwat> k then is  there anything else boohbah
[13:47] <skyfolly> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/279693 is this kinda bug solved, i am getting the same thing under 9.04
[13:47] <grawity> royalwarecast: Just a guess: unzip something.jar META-INF/MANIFEST.MF; mv MANIFEST.MF something.jad; echo "MIDlet-Jar-URL: something.jar" >> something.jad
[13:47] <sipior> m1chael: you can always try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure postfix", if you want a do-over.
[13:49] <royalwarecast> grawity, I tried so but when I use the jad file in sun twk , it cannot be run
[13:50] <grawity> royalwarecast: What does the "sun twk" say?
[13:50] <sipior> skyfolly: if you're seeing the bug under jaunty, that kind of answers your question, doesn't it? :-)
[13:51] <royalwarecast> grawity,  sorry it's sun wtk "wireless toolkit"
[13:51] <PointMan> whats the default password for root on 8.04 lts?
[13:51] <royalwarecast> root
[13:51] <grawity> PointMan: There's none.
[13:51] <zarnick> guys, I don't know why, but every time I restart my UNB Remix the gnome-panel won't start, can anyone help me?
[13:51] <grawity> !root | PointMan
[13:52] <PointMan> then why does my sudo ls / fail?
[13:52] <grawity> PointMan: Because 'sudo' asks for _your_ password.
[13:52] <PointMan> ah true
[13:52] <PointMan> thanks :)
[13:53] <ph|ber> hey guys.. in 9.04.. and using pidgin, how do you stop the damn popup alert of someone online?
[13:55] <electroweak> hi guys I am using nvidia restricted drivers on 9.04. when I startup my computer now I am stuck with 800x600 resolution. what should I do to get it fixed
[13:55] <skyfolly> sipior: eh?
[13:55] <geirha> koichirose: (sorry, was afk a bit) Might be an idea to check .xsession-errors right after the next time it happens then. And possibly add it to a bug report.
[13:56] <geirha> koichirose: Also, instead of restarting, logging out and back in again will likely get nautilus back on track.
[13:57] <jamiewan> electroweak: system - prefrences - display
[13:57] <Ravn1> hi ppl, I managed to do something stupid, I wanted to test wicd instead of networkManager, so I installed it. This of course removed nm, so the network connection broke down. The it turned out wicd does not work (can not connect to wired or wireless networks). But now I can't get the network up again, so now I can not reinstall nm. How do I get the network up w.o. nm?
[13:58] <geirha> ph|ber: Isn't there an Edit -> Preferences option in pidgin? It's probably an option in there somewhere
[13:58] <ph|ber> geirha: its only sounds.
[13:58] <SqueakyNeb> Hey hey everyone
[13:58] <adam7> Ravn1: did you make sure to set the correct interfaces in the preferences in wicd?
[13:58] <zarnick> and this goes as well with window decorations
[13:58] <derspankster> Ravn1, I run WICD without issue, when you install it, it removes NM by default
[13:59] <aly> Ravn1, wicd just work fine
[13:59] <zarnick> any help?
[13:59] <Ravn1> no, not for me, I would now like to know how to get ethernet with dhcp up again from command line or something
[13:59] <sipior> Ravn1: do you normally get an ip addredd via dhcp? you can try "sudo dhclient <interface>".
[14:00] <adam7> Ravn1: plug the ethernet cable in and just run sudo dhclient
[14:00] <bazhang> Ravn1, sudo dhclient eth0
[14:00] <geirha> ph|ber: Hm, then it's probably a plugin that does those notifications, so look at the plugins and try to disable whichever looks like the best candidate
[14:00] <derspankster> The only issue I've had with WICD is that I had to manually enter my server's IP in my hosts file to browse the network.
[14:00] <electroweak> jamiewan, when I tried that it says something like my run nvidia-xconfig as root. I did but nothing happens
[14:00] <ph|ber> ahh.. yeop.. thanks
[14:00] <adam7> Ravn1: but it might be worth checking the interface settings in wicd's preferences
[14:00] <SqueakyNeb> Is it possible to get linux to use a wireless card and act as a wireless router?
[14:00] <adam7> SqueakyNeb: some cards can do it
[14:01] <Domnic> can i get all the plugins for kubuntu 9.04 offline
[14:01] <sipior> derspankster: telling him that he *shouldn't* have problems with wicd doesn't really help if it turns out he *does* have problems with wicd, you know?
[14:01] <Domnic> i mean some pack or something
[14:01] <jamiewan> electroweak: does it ask you if you want to run your graphics drivers vendors tool?
[14:01] <w0ls0n> I have a rosewill controller card with IDE/SATA on it. How can I tell if its supported in ubuntu desktop 9?
[14:01] <electroweak> jamiewan, yes it asks that
[14:02] <SqueakyNeb> adam7, How can you find out which can, and how would you do it, anyhow??
[14:02] <jamiewan> electroweak: so you hit ok and what happens?
[14:02] <Ravn1> sipior, adam7 and bazhang: I tried that, but I cant get the network up still; I get the error execve (/sbin/dhclient-script, ...): Permission denied...
[14:02] <indus> bye
[14:02] <adam7> SqueakyNeb: Atheros cards can
[14:02] <derspankster> sipior: yes, that is true, I was just stating that WICD does works and illustrated the one issue I had with it and how I resolved it.
[14:02] <sipior> Ravn1: you're using sudo, yes?
[14:02] <adam7> Ravn1: chances are that is why wicd doesn't work also
[14:02] <bazhang> Ravn1, what does ifconfig show
[14:02] <Domnic> SqueakyNeb: can u help me ?
[14:03] <SqueakyNeb> adam7, is that a brand, or just a type of card? i'm pretty sure I have intel wireless PRO or something...
[14:03] <SqueakyNeb> Domnic, whats ya problem?
[14:03] <adam7> SqueakyNeb: it's a type of chipset
[14:03] <Domnic> I want to have all the libraries that are required for Kubuntu 9.04
[14:03] <SqueakyNeb> adam7, is it possible that a intel based laptop could do it?
[14:03] <Ravn1> bazhang: eth0 does not have and IP, but when I did dhclient eth0 I get and IP it says... just the error after
[14:03] <adam7> SqueakyNeb: if you want to make an access point, it's probably easier to buy a Linksys WRT54GL or something that can run custom firmware and use that
[14:03] <sharetel> hi I have installed Ubuntu but cannot see the Windows machines in Places>Network
[14:03] <Domnic> i dont have net on my terminal
[14:04] <sharetel> it merely shows Windows but clicking on the icon gives a blank
[14:04] <adam7> SqueakyNeb: I don't know, I don't have an Intel based laptop, but AFAIK, it's not
[14:04] <Domnic> so its very hard to get all exactly by dependencies
[14:04] <w0ls0n> sharetel: try putting your machine in the same windows workgroup
[14:04] <adam7> SqueakyNeb: at least, I've never heard of it being done
[14:04] <w0ls0n> I have a rosewill controller card with IDE/SATA on it. How can I tell if its supported in ubuntu desktop 9?
[14:04] <electroweak> jamiewan, a window comes titled nvidia x sever settings but there is not much to do on it just enable tooltips etc
[14:04] <bazhang> Ravn1, prefacing it with sudo ?
[14:04] <aly> I could use some help on a dbus issue i think, here is the thing : EVERY time i start X server, gnome-setting-deamons tells me after making me wait an eternity that he couldn't start, and then i get my desktop with no theme or anyting, and 3 minutes later, everything comes back to normal, like nothing never happened. It's annying and i'm almost afraid to reboot and face those 10minutes of waiting before getting something on my desktop. can
[14:04] <aly> anyone help me?
[14:04] <Ravn1> bazh: yes
[14:05] <SqueakyNeb> Domnic, use the Synaptic manager (or aptitude) and it should automatically get what you need, but I dont know how to reconifigure it to open up KDE
[14:05] <sharetel> can you please help me with it...how do I put it in the same Windows workgroup?
[14:05] <adam7> Ravn1: can you pastebin the entire sudo dhclient eth0 output?
[14:05] <bazhang> Ravn1, what chipset for that nic
[14:05] <sharetel> its in the same intranet ip adresses
[14:05] <sipior> aly: do you have an entry for localhost in /etc/hosts?
[14:05] <jamiewan> electroweak: what graphics card have you got
[14:05] <adam7> Ravn1: and if dhclient doesn't work, that's why Wicd won't work either
[14:05] <onyx> so what is cowsay good for
[14:05] <adam7> onyx: making cows say things?
[14:06] <aly> sipior, Yes
[14:06] <onyx> ok
[14:06] <Ravn1> adam7: no sorry, since I have no network =)
[14:06] <adam7> Ravn1: ah
[14:06] <adam7> Ravn1: can you set a static ip?
[14:06] <adam7> Ravn1: I can give you the command if you know what ips to use
[14:06] <Ravn1> dunno, hows that done?
[14:06] <electroweak> jamiewan, nvidia fx5200. I don't have to use that driver I just need 1024x768 resolution
[14:07] <aly> sipior, if it can help, there is also, when i do Ctrl + Alt + F1, a message telling me that scim couldn't load X11 fonts, or something like that
[14:07] <adam7> Ravn1: sudo ifconfig eth0 my.ip.goes.here netmask my.net.mask.here broadcast my.broad.cast.here
[14:07] <sipior> aly: have a look in /var/log/Xorg.0.log, see if there are any obvious errors
[14:07] <adam7> Ravn1: obviously, replace the appropriate my.something.goes.here stuff with IPs
[14:07] <SqueakyNeb> adam7, does static IP only need to be set locally, or on the router, or both?
[14:07] <adam7> SqueakyNeb: only on the client computer
[14:07] <adam7> SqueakyNeb: but you have to know what IP you can use
[14:08] <electroweak> jamiewan, can I use instead opensource drivers and get that resolution
[14:08] <ascheel> Anybody know the name of the program that gives you a visual pie chart of your HDD?
[14:09] <adam7> ascheel: baobab
[14:09] <Domnic> SqueakyNeb: there is actually 1 major problem i dont have net on my terminal . How do u i get the libraries needed
[14:09] <ascheel> adam7, trying it out
[14:09] <SqueakyNeb> adam7, I can tell DHCP to start the IP's at 192.168.1.60, if I pick 59 (example) will that work fine?
[14:09] <adam7> SqueakyNeb: should do
[14:09] <derspankster> electrotweak, have you tried sudo displayconfig-gtk?
[14:09] <hoo-hah> hi guuys. I use zsh as shell. anyone know why .zprofile is sourced by root during boot? ie, the stuff i have in zprofile is activated before I even login as the user, upon system boot
[14:10] <jamiewan> electroweak: not sure, iv'e got 9800gt nvidia which must have many more options cause mine can change it all.
[14:10] <SqueakyNeb> domnic, hmm... there shuld be a way to do that, I think  I did it once. gimme a minute to think
[14:10] <Domnic> u will really save my time then SqueakyNeb just help me dude
[14:10] <adam7> Domnic, SqueakyNeb: you can go to packages.ubuntu.com to get what you need
[14:11] <jamiewan> electroweak: sorry mate prob pose the question again and wait, i'm sure someone will be able to help you if you can idle on channel for a bit
[14:11] <Pici> !offline | Domnic
[14:11] <hoo-hah> ideally I want to use keychain (gpg-agent and ssh-agent) to enter my passphrase via .zprofile, but as this is sourced at boot, I'm unable to enter in passphrase (no stdin)
[14:11] <Domnic> adam7: its not that simple because there are lots of dependencies and cyclic pages involved
[14:11] <adam7> Domnic: see what Pici gave you ^^^
[14:11] <richj> Dominic, aptOncd would prob work well
[14:11] <electroweak> jamiewan, thanks dude I will hang out
[14:12] <Domnic> I dont have net on my terminal guys !!!
[14:12] <Domnic> i m currently on windows xp
[14:12] <SqueakyNeb> Domnic, Last time I installed stuff on a internet-less linux box, I used another computer to find the dependancies, then manually downloaded them. I then used a thumbdrive to move it to the linux box and installed manually
[14:12] <Pici> Domnic: See  http://apt.alturl.com/  then
[14:12] <sipior> hoo-hah: you can simply modify the boot script so that it isn't. but why would your personal profile be sourced at boot? sounds like an error in the script, frankly.
[14:12] <aly> sipior, Nothing i could find
[14:12] <m1chael> the ubuntu docs are really nice
[14:12] <derspankster> electroweak, you want to change display resolution?
[14:12] <hoo-hah> sipior: exactly
[14:12] <aly> sipior, but when i wanted to launch gedit, it told me /usr/share/themes/Crux/gtk-2.0/gtkrc:37: Invalid symbolic color 'fg_color'
[14:12] <aly> /usr/share/themes/Crux/gtk-2.0/gtkrc:37: error: invalid identifier `fg_color', expected valid identifier
[14:12] <hoo-hah> sipior: .zprofile for non-root user shouldn't be
[14:13] <hoo-hah> sipior: there's no error in the script, and even if it was, it wouldn't explain why the file is sourced
[14:13] <SqueakyNeb> Pici, I checked it out, doesnt help him much. Nonetheless a useful site.
[14:13] <electroweak> derspankster, yes I want to make it 1024x768
[14:14] <derspankster> electroweak, from terminal sudo displayconfig-gtk
[14:14] <Domnic> Pici thanx a lottttttttttttttttttttt
[14:14] <SqueakyNeb> Pici, Something like that, but with a dependancies wizard of some sort
[14:14] <richj> electroweak, does 1024x768 show up in cmdline: xrandr
[14:14] <sipior> aly: sounds like you may have a broken gnome installation.
[14:14] <esde> Ubuntu netbook remix 9.04, how do i "Force" wireless to be on. There is an active network in range, and i want to connect to it. But the wlan0 does not list any networks with "iwlist wlan0 scan".
[14:14] <cadu> hey guys
[14:15] <cadu> i want a small window manager that supports all the standards freedesktop has been setting these days
[14:15] <electroweak> richj, no highest is 800x600
[14:15] <Pici> SqueakyNeb: That does do dependencies...
[14:15] <cadu> i would like something as cool and fast/small as WMii but with proper stuff like y'know, System Tray and other stuff that's pretty standard everywhere else
[14:15] <electroweak> richj, everything was fine until this morning when I turn it on this morning everything was messed up
[14:15] <SqueakyNeb> Pici, Really? I didn't get told about any before downloading things... hmm.
[14:16] <richj> electroweak, did you install any updates?
[14:16] <rickard_> I have downloaded a utililty.. "soapui" and when I extract the content i have a bin folder with .sh filer... running them using ./soapui.sh doesnt work.. what shall I do?
[14:16] <cadu> tiling window manager or not, i would like an wmii or blackbox (minimal) window manager with support for standards
[14:16] <Domnic> Oh it works great thanx  again pici
[14:16] <electroweak> richj, my brother says he did last night
[14:16] <sipior> rickard_: make it executable via "chmod u+x ..."
[14:17] <sipior> rickard_: or just run it as "sh soapui,sh"
[14:17] <richj> electroweak, almost definately a xorg 1.6 causing the problem
[14:17] <electroweak> richj, is there a way to fix it
[14:17] <esde> Ubuntu netbook remix 9.04, how do i "Force" wireless to be on. There is an active network in range, and i want to connect to it. But the wlan0 does not list any networks with "iwlist wlan0 scan".
[14:17] <richj> electroweak, I think an xorg.conf edit should work
[14:18] <richj> can you paste bin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[14:18] <rickard_> sipior: Now it complains that java not found... I have java installed.. shall it be installed in that folder?
[14:19] <esde> >_>
[14:19] <sipior> rickard_: no, it probably just isn't bright about looking for java. are you sure there's no package for what you want via ubuntu? might save you a deal of trouble.
[14:19] <electroweak> richj, in xorg.conf there are just "configured video device" "configured monitor" and stuff like that
[14:19] <esde> so no help?
[14:19] <richj> is there a modline entry?
[14:20] <rickard_> sipior: there is no package.. :(
[14:20] <Pici> !patience | esde
[14:20] <aly> sipior, how do i reinstall gnome?
[14:20] <esde> Pici: lol
[14:20] <richj> electroweak, is there a modline entry under monitor section
[14:20] <aly> sipior, i'm ready to do whatever it takes
[14:21] <derspankster> my bad, apparently displayconfig-gtk doesn't exist in Jaunty
[14:21] <sipior> aly: might try "sudo apt-get --reinstall install gnome"
[14:21] <electroweak> richj, nope just "identifier configured monitor"
[14:21] <sipior> aly: hopefully that will get you back to the status quo ante.
[14:21] <aly> sipior, i'll try it and tell you
[14:22] <richj> electroweak,  are you using a lcd monitor?
[14:22] <electroweak> richj, no crt
[14:23] <esde> Ubuntu netbook remix 9.04, how do i "Force" wireless to be on. There is an active network in range, and i want to connect to it. But the wlan0 does not list any networks with "iwlist wlan0 scan".
[14:23] <esde> soirry im Very impatient
[14:24] <richj> electroweak, add this under the monitor section. Modeline "1024x768_75.00" 81.80 1024 1080 1192 1360 768 769 772 802 -HSync +VSync
[14:24] <bazhang> esde, what does ifconfig show
[14:24] <richj> electroweak, on one line. cmdline: sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[14:24] <bazhang> !gksudo | richj  electroweak
[14:25] <gletob> How do you keep keyring from asking for a password?
[14:25] <Ravn1> where can I find deb-packages and download manually?
[14:25] <FtMoVa> salve a tutti
[14:25] <esde> bazhang: it show up in the NIC list
[14:25] <FtMoVa> find to google
[14:26] <esde> but it doesnt show active networks
[14:26] <bazhang> !it | FtMoVa
[14:26] <bazhang> esde, please paste.ubuntu.com with the output
[14:26] <bazhang> Ravn1, which packages
[14:27] <gletob> How do you keep keyring from asking for a password?
[14:28] <electroweak> richj, ok now I think I should restart now
[14:28] <richj> electroweak, yes
[14:28] <Pici> Ravn1: http://packages.ubuntu.com is one place
[14:30] <runsky> i can't start my gnome-do by super+space
[14:30] <esde> http://paste.ubuntu.com/194361/ bazhang
[14:30] <runsky> i can't start my gnome-do by super+space
[14:30] <scott\> hey guys, can someone tell me how to enable XDMCP on 9.04 please?
[14:30] <gartral> hey all, is there any way I can pipe the output of locate into rm and have rm remove all results from locate?
[14:31] <geirha> scott\: System -> Administration -> Login screen -> [remote] tab
[14:31] <runsky> i can't start my gnome-do by super+space
[14:31] <sipior> gartral: yes, have a look at "xargs"
[14:31] <bazhang> esde, you have a wifi hotspot to test on?
[14:31] <runsky> i can't start my gnome-do by super+space
[14:31] <scott\> ah
[14:31] <scott\> how on earth did i miss that
[14:31] <scott\> :)
[14:32] <rexwin> gartral , locate name | xargs rm
[14:32] <sipior> gartral: careful with that, though, especially if running as the superuser. check the output of locate before piping to xargs :-)
[14:32] <scott\> geirha: any ideas on why the connection would be refused?
[14:38] <scott\> gartral: it works fine, but they keyboard layout seems a bit whacked
[14:38] <[Gloom]> I'm trying powertop and I have a couple of doubts. Are the changes that powertop makes permanent, or should I run powertop on each reboot. And Are those settings ignored when on AC power, or can they affect performance while in Ac power?
[14:38] <gartral> scott\: ???
[14:39] <[Gloom]> I'm trying powertop and I have a couple of doubts. Are the changes that powertop makes permanent, or should I run powertop on each reboot. And Are those settings ignored when on AC power, or can they affect performance while in Ac power?
[14:39] <scott\> gartral: at the login window its fine, but when i'm logged in at the desktop, the keys are completely wrong
[14:39] <[Gloom]> sorry for the double post. Didn't appear the first time on my screen for a while:(
[14:39] <scott\> oh
[14:39] <scott\> wait
[14:39] <scott\> seems to be okay now
[14:39] <scott\> wrong layout
[14:40] <scott\> :)
[14:40] <gartral> scott\: I don't think I was helping you with any problems >.>
[14:40] <scott\> oh
[14:40] <scott\> oh no, it was geirha
[14:40]  * HttpError is now away: I have left the computer. i will be back.
[14:40] <scott\> my bad :)
[14:41] <Pici> !away > HttpError
[14:41] <HttpError> argh
[14:41] <HttpError> i thoiught i had turned it off
[14:41] <gartral> sipior: Thank You very very much, that did the trick as expected
[14:41] <scott\> hmm, it is possible for xdmcp to keep my desktop 'running' when i logout?
[14:42] <matlock> wow, interesting
[14:43] <matlock> is anyone alive in here?
[14:43] <richj> yes
[14:43] <matlock> hey richj ...
[14:43] <richj> hi
[14:44] <matlock> I am happy I have found this... I downloaded OPERA today, and well... found IRC within it, and now am checking things out
[14:45] <matlock> but... there is more, I have a computer I have loaded Ubuntu onto... and am new to any kind of Linux... so, I am assuming I can use this channel for some support... in future
[14:45] <Pici> matlock: Indeed, this is the official Ubuntu support channel.
[14:46] <richj> matlock, yes this is a support channel :)
[14:46] <matlock> Awesome... well, I will remember this!
[14:46] <matlock> anyway, just so I am not wasting your time etc... will leave for now, and be back later
[14:46] <esde> okay now i have no wireless at all. Ubuntu Netbook Remix 9.04/
[14:46] <matlock> chao
[14:46] <freakynl> does ubuntu have a php package or something that allows for filesharing? only authorized users should be able to access files, either through something like entering a password for the file, e-mailing some ugly (protected) URL or authentication
[14:47] <bazhang> esde, what chipset /netbook
[14:47] <esde> Acer Aspire One. AOA150-1635
[14:48] <SiVA_> hi
[14:48] <SiVA_> when my sound all of a sudden stops working, what can I do short of restarting the computer? Any process I can kill?
[14:48] <bcurtiswx-mini> freakynl: have you tried using "connect to server"
[14:48] <freakynl> bcurtiswx-mini: ? needs to be exposed through website so other can download confidential files from here.
[14:49] <bcurtiswx-mini> freaknyl: looked into an ftp server?
[14:49] <freakynl> bcurtiswx-mini: or ftp, but ftp ... isn't really easy and far from secure. unless it's sftp or ftps but that usually requires the other side to install a client
[14:49] <slava_dp> SiVA_, modprobe -r your_module_for_sound && modprobe it back :) should do the job.
[14:49] <esde> bazhang, its weird how it was there and not working, and now it isnt there at all.
[14:50] <hikenboot> hello can anyone tell me if Ubuntu Server 9.1 has a firewall installed by default
[14:50] <bazhang> modprobe -r ath5k acer_wmi; modprobe ath5k esde what does that output (if anything)
[14:50] <bcurtiswx-mini> freaknyl: i am not sure entirely, but most other apps would require the other user to download a client
[14:50] <richj> freaky_t, 1 option is to use xampp webserver with sql database of users and a php script to provide the functionality
[14:50] <freakynl> bcurtiswx-mini: and it should be configurable by users i'm afraid
[14:50] <esde> esde@esde-laptop:~$ modprobe -r ath5k acer_wm
[14:51] <esde> FATAL: Module acer_wm not found.
[14:51] <esde> esde@esde-laptop:~$ modprobe -r ath5k
[14:51] <esde> esde@esde-laptop:~$
[14:51] <sipior> hikenboot: it's not active by default, but the capacity is there, yes. (i assume you mean 9.04?)
[14:51] <FloodBot3> esde: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:51] <esde> oh hush FloodBot1
[14:51] <bazhang> esde, preface with sudo sorry
[14:51] <esde> ok
[14:51] <freakynl> bcurtiswx-mini: nah, there are several companies offering such functions through their website, but most of them start charging for files larger than x mb and they don't actually want to trust such services here either. it's not like you can see how they secure stuff, mostly you don't even know who maintains it
[14:52] <esde> bazhang, it just goes to a new line. no output.
[14:52] <bazhang> sudo modprobe -r ath5k acer_wmi; modprobe ath5k  esde
[14:52] <bazhang> esde, wmi not wm
[14:52] <bcurtiswx-mini> freaknyl: hmm, usually those sites list what programs they use.. im guessing some may be windows only... but if you can find one that in the ubuntu repositories then i'd fly with that
[14:52] <gruzin0> use /nick <newname>
[14:52] <bazhang> esde, and does ifconfig show correct nic now (something like ath0)
[14:52] <ivanatwork> hi
[14:53] <drone> Could someone please tell me what version.h and utsrelease.h are for ? Upon trying to compile a raid driver for my mobo, I'm getting an error saying these two files don't exist.
[14:53] <gruzin0> use /nick <gruzin0>
[14:53] <[Gloom]> is anyone using laptop_mode  for better power management in jaunty??
[14:53] <bcurtiswx-mini> esde: for multi line pastes.. use paste.ubuntu.com
[14:53] <drone> or better yet, where do I find them?
[14:53] <esde> i know bcurtiswx-mini
[14:53] <bcurtiswx-mini> esde: ok, cool :)
[14:53] <milo_> can someone tell me why the command "kdesu" doesn't work in my terminal?
[14:54] <freakynl> bcurtiswx-mini: well i can find several on hotscripts or something, but it would be nicest if the server has as little maintenance as necessary and can just apt-get upgrade on it's own once a week or something
[14:54] <bazhang> milo_, ubuntu or kubuntu
[14:54] <esde> http://paste.ubuntu.com/194379/ bazhang
[14:54] <milo_> bazhang: ubuntu
[14:54] <bazhang> !gksudo | milo_
[14:54] <sipior> drone: try installing the linux-headers package for your kernel.
[14:54] <bcurtiswx-mini> freaknyl: oh don't we all :).. i don't know of any that specific.. sorry about that.
[14:55] <milo_> bazhang: thanks
[14:55] <bazhang> esde, hoped that was ifconfig :)
[14:55] <drone> sipior: I already did and I sym linked them to a directory according to the directions in the README file that came with the drivers. Should I try to just reinstall them ?
[14:55] <esde> oh let me do that
[14:55] <bazhang> milo_, yw
[14:56] <esde> bazhang, all i get is eth0 and lo
[14:56] <bcurtiswx-mini> freakynl: are you using ubuntu server edition?
[14:56] <freakynl> bcurtiswx-mini: yup
[14:56] <freakynl> lts one
[14:56] <milo_> bazhang: im even reading the link you gave me
[14:56] <electroweak> richj, didn't work either. is there a way to just drop nvidia driver and use open source driver instead. do you think that helps
[14:56] <SiVA_> slava_dp: How do I determine what sound module I"m using?
[14:56] <bcurtiswx-mini> freakynl: you may get someone who knows of a program in #ubuntu-server
[14:56] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AspireOne from this esde
[14:57] <esde> -.- i used that page before, lol. one big headache.
[14:57] <sipior> drone: what symlink did it tell you to make?
[14:57] <esde> this is why i have Netbook Remix
[14:57] <SiVA_> I think it's ALSA
[14:57] <drone> sipior: the error reads: cat: /usr/src/linux/include/linux/version.h: No such file or directory cat: /usr/src/linux/include/linux/utsrelease.h: No such file or directory make: *** No rule to make target `install'.  Stop.
[14:57] <bazhang> esde, that is about the netbook remix
[14:57] <slava_dp> SiVA_, lsmod then look for anything named snd*
[14:57] <drone> sipior: it told me to create a /usr/src/linux dir and then linux the contents of the linux-headers dir to that
[14:58] <drone> sipior: whoops
[14:58] <baker_GR> if im connected to two different networks, one though ethernet and one through wifi, how can i choose which of this is to download for example through internet?
[14:58] <SiVA_> slava_dp: snd_hda_intel ?
[14:58] <SiVA_> there are a bunch
[14:58] <slava_dp> SiVA_, correct.
[14:58] <drone> sipior: I meant that it made me create /usr/src/linux dir and then sym link contents of linux-headers dir to the /usr/src/linux dir
[14:58] <hemanth> how to get the name of the usb media which is mounted in a script ?
[14:58] <mdm> baker_GR: routing, and set your default route to that network
[14:59] <sipior> drone: you've verified that the files are not found in the stated path?
[14:59] <drone> sipior: yes, I went into the path and could not find either one of them
[14:59] <Heikki123> hello
[14:59] <electroweak> guys I am stuck 640x480 resolution I am using nividia fx5200 driver on 9.04 any help
[14:59] <sipior> drone: and they don't show up with locate?
[14:59] <esde> bazhang, why cant i do, "modprobe -r ath5k acer_wmi; modprobe ath5k"?
[15:00] <SiVA_> slava_dp: FATAL: Module snd_hda_intel is in use.
[15:00] <Heikki123> is there something like raid but the files are not striped but rather one file after another? I need it in storing a big file on a fat filesystem and i need to be able to access the file from there
[15:00] <SiVA_> no sound programs open
[15:00] <rameshwo> .. which one's better ?8.10  or  9.04  if  first one then i won't upgrade. it latter one then i'll upgrade.. so.. help me
[15:00] <drone> sipior: Ah, I found them, but they aren't in the directory that the makefile wants. Should I just link them there?
[15:00] <slava_dp> rameshwo, slackware
[15:00] <richj> electroweak, you need a modline correct for your monitor
[15:00] <bazhang> esde, take a look in hardware drivers and be sure the atheros alternative driver is enabled
[15:00] <sipior> drone: or copy them directly, sure
[15:01] <rameshwo> slava_dp :  slackware is better you mean ???
[15:01] <slava_dp> rameshwo, 'course it is.
[15:01] <Pici> slava_dp: Please stop.
[15:01] <drone> sipior: Alrighty, I'm gonna give it a shot. thank you very much !    :)
[15:01] <sipior> Heikki123: what happens when you modify the files on such a filesystem?
[15:01] <baker_GR> mdm, i suppose icant use both of them.. to compine ethernet and wifi gateways for faster download
[15:01] <rameshwo> slava_dp : i heardit's for technical , more expert ones ??
[15:01] <Pici> rameshwo: 9.04 is newer than 8.10
[15:01] <sipior> drone: no trouble, good luck with the compile.
[15:02] <esde> No Proprietary drivers are in use on this system
[15:02] <rameshwo> Pici : yes newer but i also heard it had many bugs....
[15:02] <mdm> baker_GR: you can, its called bonding.  Not a good idea to do with dissimilar network devices tho.  it also takes configuration on the thing those devices are connected to
[15:02] <richj> electroweak, try Modeline "1024x768" 67.48 1024 1080 1184 1344 768 769 772 797
[15:02] <Heikki123> sipior: what do you mean? nothing special? You know a raid device, what happens when you modify a file there?
[15:02] <Pici> rameshwo: All releases have some amount of bugs, its up to you to decide whether they may affect you or not.
[15:02] <Heikki123> sipior: so probably i need a file that contains a filesysten
[15:03] <rameshwo> i'm a simple desktop user just learning.....  so i think it won't affect me ... ?
[15:03] <Heikki123> is linear raid what i need here? if i put raid0, it will be slow because the 2 files are accessed same time
[15:03] <Pici> rameshwo: So try it out then.
[15:03] <rameshwo> Pici: sure....
[15:03] <esde> ok, so i removed the module, but it wont reinsert, thats the problem!
[15:03] <amnezja> Witam
[15:03] <amnezja> Hey hi Hello
[15:04] <sipior> Heikki123: my point is, as soon as you start modifying the file on disk, you'd have a problem with fragmentation. or rather, you'd require zero fragmentation, which would make writes extremely slow.
[15:04] <hemanth> !hi
[15:04] <SiVA_> how can I restart the sound system without restarting X?
[15:04] <SiVA_> periodically my sound will just stop working
[15:04] <sipior> Heikki123: what's the exact situation you're trying to fix?
[15:05] <amnezja> Everyone Speak Polish ?
[15:05] <sipior> amnezja: probably not everyone, no :-)
[15:05] <bronze> !polish > amnezja
[15:06] <arber4444> why i cant conect to ethernet on windows xp on virtual box
[15:06] <rameshwo> someone said  : ..restart X ... what does that X refer to ? desktop ???
[15:06] <esde> why cant i modprobe ath5k?
[15:07] <sipior> arber4444: have you enabled networking in the virtualbox configuration panel?
[15:07] <scunizi> !X | rameshwo
[15:07] <sipior> esde: why, what happens when you try to?
[15:07] <arber4444> dont know let me check
[15:07] <freakynl> rameshwo: just hit ctrl+alt+backspace and make sure you don't have anything open that still needs to be saved
[15:07] <esde> Operation not permitted, with prefix "sudo"
[15:07] <scunizi> freakynl: that doesn't restart x anymore.. on Jaunty
[15:07] <sipior> esde: that's the complete error?
[15:08] <arber4444> dont know how to check ??
[15:08] <bazhang> esde, is there a wireless switch on the front edge of the netbook
[15:08] <rameshwo> if X restartedd then  kde n gnom will restart ??
[15:08] <esde> yes
[15:09] <esde> and i have been playing with it to see which is on and off, but its hard to tell
[15:09] <electroweak> guys when I activate the nvidia restricted driver I stuck with 640x480 when I deactivate it I get 800x600 but I need 1024x768 what should I do any help
[15:09] <bazhang> esde, you may need to toggle it ; should it be switched to 'off' at boot , then it would explain the current situation
[15:10] <esde> i just did modprobe ath5k and it "worked".
[15:10] <esde> but
[15:10] <esde> i dont have any wireless extensions.
[15:10] <rameshwo> and Xubuntu ? that's also  ubuntu with X  system ?
[15:10] <sipior> esde: does lsmod | grep ath5k show anything?
[15:10] <derspankster> electroweak, I assume you have Nvidia X Server Settings installed?
[15:10] <esde> lemme check
[15:10] <sipior> rameshwo: it uses xfce instead
[15:10] <berot3> hi, annyoning problem: i lost my bash-auto-completition, but dont know how/why... for example when i want to type: "sudo apti..." it wont complete when pressing TAB. instead it gives me the files in the directory... what to do?
[15:11] <sipior> rameshwo: well, instead of gnome, i mean.
[15:11] <electroweak> derspankster, yes I have that installed
[15:11] <rameshwo> sipior: i got u...
[15:11] <esde> ath5k, mac80211, led_class, cfg80211.
[15:11] <bazhang> rameshwo, xfce4 for xubuntu kde for kubuntu gnome for ubuntu; you choose which session when you are at login screen, if you have them installed
[15:11] <derspankster> electroweak, and you cannot detect your screen from there?
[15:11] <rameshwo> bazhang :..ok..
[15:11] <electroweak> derspankster, nope I can't do anything on that screen
[15:12] <Heikki123> sipior: i'm trying to backup a filesystem to a fat device, and i need to be able to at least read it later
[15:12] <bazhang> esde, I would guess in your fiddling that you toggled it to off, thus the need to restart it with it toggled to on
[15:12] <rameshwo> can i uninstall complete X window system.???...  if i did then all thing will be command_line ???
[15:12] <derspankster> electroweak, you cannot acquire EDID for your monitor?
[15:12] <gastly> rameshwo, yup
[15:12] <bazhang> rameshwo, sure you can
[15:13] <esde> erm, okay i will restart two times. once now, then toggle, then once more. if it still doesnt work i wil be back.
[15:13] <mdm> Heikki123: are you trying to backup a non fat/ntfs filesystem to a fat file system?
[15:13] <sipior> Heikki123: and the problem is the 4gb limit? perhaps time to move to ntfs?
[15:13] <Heikki123> sipior: yes
[15:13] <rameshwo> gastly: bazhang : ok maybe after some years. after i become an xpert....
[15:13] <electroweak> derspankster, no I can't I have been advised to add modline to xorg.conf but it didn't work either
[15:14] <Heikki123> mdm: does it matter? i need the entire filesystem, dd from /dev/hd...
[15:14] <gastly> rameshwo :)
[15:14] <derspankster> electrowek, does your GPU show up in nvidia-settings?
[15:14] <hemanth> how to get the name of the usb media which is mounted
[15:14] <Heikki123> sipior: is there a way to convert a fat partition to ntfs in linux then?
[15:14]  * hemanth in cli
[15:14] <mdm> Heikki123: yes greatly, since fat has no idea of linux permissions and ownership you will loose all those if you do not use archives
[15:14] <gastly> hemanth, in a terminal type: mount
[15:15] <gastly> hemanth , it shows all mounted drives
[15:15] <electroweak> derspankster, I can see that nvidia fx5200
[15:15] <derspankster> electroweak, does your GPU show up in nvidia-settings?
[15:15] <Heikki123> mdm: and a block device don't know anything what it has inside. so -> no matter what filesystem
[15:15] <gastly> brb
[15:15] <hemanth> gastly: so just mount | grep "usb" ha ?
[15:15] <derspankster> electroweak, how about your monitor?
[15:15] <rameshwo> how can i know if my sound/video cards are detected /  drivers installed         or not ???
[15:15] <sipior> Heikki123: you can simply make a new filesystem on the partition; no way to convert that i know of (and it probably wouldn't work well anyway)
[15:15] <mdm> Heikki123: do you mean you want to dd from an ext filesystem into a partition that is marked as fat?  simply mark it as the ext and do it
[15:16] <Heikki123> mdm: no, i need to backup a partition (no matter what type it is) to a fat filesystem as a file (it already contains other files)
[15:16] <electroweak> derspankster, I can see a CRT section under GPU node
[15:16] <mdm> and Heikki123 do not use raid0 unless you do not care about the data
[15:17] <ksbalaji> I am unable to run a simple app - sunbird in Hardy -wine. I am getting error: The application sunbird is supposed to show a picture with a Sun and a bird following mouse pointer! Doesn't work in wine. Please guide - http://pastebin.com/d59985a8b  - can someone help please?
[15:17] <mdm> Heikki123: you can create tar files then
[15:17] <gastly> hemanth, nope you'll have to manually search the device name, it should be sdb or sdc (depending on how many hard disks you have)
[15:17] <derspankster> electroweak, what does the line say?
[15:17] <erUSUL> !appdb | ksbalaji
[15:17] <cabrey> remember FAT filesystems have a file size limit
[15:17] <Heikki123> mdm: can i split one huge file using tar?
[15:17] <rameshwo>  how can i know if my sound/video cards are detected /  drivers installed         or not ???
[15:17] <hemanth> gastly: it's sda here , but how to make it genric
[15:18] <erUSUL> Heikki123: use split
[15:18] <mdm> Heikki123: yes
[15:18] <gastly> hemanth, generic as in?
[15:18] <mdm> Heikki123: pass it --tape-length=<size in K>
[15:18] <hemanth> gastly:I need it in a script
[15:18] <ksbalaji> erUSUL, thanks. I tried winehq - vain! That's why I came for help here. Possible?
[15:19] <Heikki123> mdm: ok thanks :)
[15:19] <Heikki123> mdm: but hmm, i can
[15:19] <electroweak> derspankster, CRT-0 (CRT-0) digital vibrance and image sharpening and refresh rate of 59,93
[15:19] <uskrewed> Okay, so randomly my mouse will spaz out and it'll go up and down, left and right, scrolling as well, both right and left clicking. anyone know why it'd do this?
[15:19] <cabrey> ksbalaji, we are not wine developers, try a wine specific channel
[15:19] <erUSUL> ksbalaji: well what i tried to point out is that not all apps work well on wine.
[15:19] <Heikki123> mdm: i can't mount it in a tar file, or can i?
[15:19] <mdm> Heikki123: no, not as far as I know
[15:19] <hemanth> gastly: a script which can list the device names
[15:19] <Heikki123> so tar is not a solution
[15:20] <esde> still nothing.
[15:20] <gastly> hemanth, ahh...then maybe a you need some scripters help, as far as I know theres no 'generic' device to use as a usb :)
[15:20] <derspankster> electroweak, but no line identifying your monitor?
[15:20] <electroweak> derspankster, no nothing
[15:20] <esde> i restarted, nothing. toggled it, then another restart, nothing
[15:20] <mdm> Heikki123: you can dd it to a file if you have the space
[15:20] <Heikki123> mdm: the partition? yes, but fat has 4G limit
[15:20] <ksbalaji> erUSUL, cabrey - Thanks and bye!
[15:20] <hemanth> gastly: thank you :)
[15:20] <gastly> hemanth, np :)
[15:20] <Heikki123> mdm: per file
[15:20] <mdm> Heikki123: then reformat the partition
[15:21] <hemanth> gastly: im?
[15:21] <Heikki123> mdm: that's not also a solution because i can't format it without loosing all the data in it ;)
[15:21] <electroweak> derspankster, I don't need to use 3d I just need resolution. is using the open source driver fixes my problem
[15:22] <mdm> Heikki123: then move the files somewhere else, why is it fat anyway?
[15:22] <esde> sipior, any ideas?
[15:22] <derspankster> electroweak, you should take a look at your Xorg log file
[15:22] <Heikki123> mdm: it is fat because it was fat when i got it. it is a portable hard disk
[15:22] <gastly> hemanth, sure
[15:22] <Heikki123> can i make a raid out of files
[15:22] <derspankster> electroweak, what version of nvidia driver do you have installed?
[15:23] <sipior> esde: i hadn't really been thinking about it. if you boot from a live cd, does the network function?
[15:23] <mdm> Heikki123: then move the files that are on it somewhere temporarily then reformat it and move them back.  I am assuming you use this in a Windows enviroment as well, is that true?
[15:23] <sipior> Heikki123: why not change the filesystem to something a little more modern? save you a lot of trouble.
[15:23] <electroweak> derspankster, is there a command line thing to see it
[15:23] <Heikki123> mdm: yes, windows and linux
[15:23] <mdm> Heikki123: is this windows xp, sp2 or later?
[15:23] <Heikki123> the reason why i can
[15:23] <rockyardwork> network manager is pissing me off how do you keep it from changing what connection you want to use ?
[15:24] <rockyardwork> connection settings
[15:24] <rockyardwork> it keeps on making a AUTO ETH0 and whiching to that instead of my manual one that works when i select it
[15:24] <Heikki123> the reason why i can't reformat is i don't have space anywhere else to store those files temporarily ;)
[15:24] <esde> uhm i dont have one atm. this shit is aggravating.
[15:24] <derspankster> electroweak, just open hardware drivers system>administration.hardware drivers
[15:24] <cabrey> rockyardwork, what does your manual eth0 have?
[15:25] <mdm> Heikki123: convert it to NTFS, even Microsoft recommends you do. http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb456984.aspx
[15:25] <electroweak> derspankster, I have ver. 173 installed
[15:25] <rockyardwork> cabrey it is setup correctly with dns servers, ip submask and gateway
[15:25] <mdm> and Heikki123 you can do that wile the files are on the fat system, and convert it, using windows
[15:25] <esde> there are no drivers in Hardware Drivers, how do I install the wireless one, and see if that works?
[15:25] <cabrey> rockyardwork, then modify the auto eth0, that should work
[15:25] <sipior> Heikki123: then make a multi-part tar. or get a computer with a real filesystem and disk space.
[15:25] <nascentmind> Hi. When i type svn:// i get a the process for the svn protocol died unexpectedly. what seems to be the problem?
[15:26] <rockyardwork> why should I have to do that cabrey ?
[15:26] <derspankster> electroweak, are you running jaunty?  I use nvidia 180 on jaunty
[15:26] <cabrey> rockyardwork, because you have specific settings you want to put in
[15:26] <rockyardwork> why can't I just have it in the other one I created ?
[15:26] <mdm> nascentmind: the commnd is svn <command> <url> <project> as in svn co http://some.site.com/svn/archive archive
[15:27] <electroweak> derspankster, yes I am on jaunty but I have 173 and 96
[15:27] <rockyardwork> not submask I meant netmask cabrey
[15:27] <nascentmind> mdm,  yes i did that only... svn://ipaddress/
[15:27] <derspankster> electroweak, you can always try 180
[15:27] <Heikki123> i would have converted it already, but i don't have windows ;) But anyhow, i will do something, thanks anyhow
[15:27] <esde> so like, no advice?
[15:27] <cabrey> rockyardwork, check the nm config file: /etc/NetworkManager/nm-system-settings.conf
[15:27] <creature_> whats a good tool to display the wireless power accurately?
[15:27] <electroweak> derspankster, can I do that over synaptic
[15:28] <nascentmind> mdm, in windows it works fine.. in linux i get this problem and it seems to be a problem with other protocols too after doing some googling.. what seems to be the problem?
[15:28] <derspankster> electroweak, yes
[15:28] <mdm> nascentmind: I dont know, I use svn over http quite frequently and it works fine
[15:28] <mehlo> hey, is it me or is torrents causing heavy fragmentation ? just did a fsck on my torrent drive and it says 83,4% non-contiguous.. this normal ?
[15:28] <mdm> nascentmind: what are you trying to sync?
[15:28] <sipior> esde: get live cd. boot from live cd. see if it works.
[15:29] <electroweak> derspankster, ok I will try that to see if it works :)
[15:29] <nascentmind> mdm, i am just trying to browse the repo using dolphin.
[15:29] <Boohbah> mehlo: what filesystem?
[15:29] <electroweak> derspankster, should I uninstall 173 before I try 180
[15:29] <cabrey> rockyardwork, found a solution. you cannot remove the auto eth0 one, but you can make your manual one the default
[15:29] <esde> i dont have a USB with me right now.
[15:29] <mehlo> ext3 converted to ext4 a few days ago
[15:29] <derspankster> electroweak, ubuntu display issues can be maddening, hope you get it working.
[15:29] <mehlo> files was written when i had ext3, if that matters
[15:29] <sipior> esde: then i don't know what to tell you.
[15:29] <rockyardwork> how do you do that cabrey ?
[15:29] <mehlo> the hdd is also far from full, only using 40% of it
[15:29] <rockyardwork> so it was because I was removing the auto eth0 one cabrey ?
[15:30] <rockyardwork> that is retarded it shouldn't do that
[15:30] <derspankster> electroweak, shouldn't need to, 173 is available to me as well as 180
[15:30] <creature_> how do you see wlan signal quality?
[15:30] <mysinu> hello
[15:30] <esde> sipior, my driver used to show up ion hardware drivers, now it doesnt.
[15:31] <cabrey> rockyardwork, go into Network Connections
[15:31] <julia_2> two user can access the same file without seeing that they work in the same file. what could i do?
[15:31] <mdm> julia_2: revision control
[15:31] <lasmus> it possible to install ubuntu for an system who have install opensuse on it....it modify bootloader?
[15:32] <rockyardwork> I only have network configuration cabrey
[15:32] <ingcomrbr> Hi there..
[15:32] <rkl_> yes
[15:32] <erUSUL> mdm: beat me to it ;)
[15:32] <julia_2> mdm hmm and how do I do that?
[15:32] <mdm> sorry erUSUL :(
[15:32] <ingcomrbr> I closed ports with iptables.
[15:32] <cabrey> rockyardwork, ok right click on the network manager applet and select edit connections...
[15:32] <ingcomrbr> Do you know which port should I open to update and upgrade Ubuntu?
[15:32] <facemelter> hi, when i run a GUI-program with a different user than the one logged in, the GUI is very slow, and errors show up in the console...?
[15:33] <rockyardwork> where do you make it the default cabrey ?
[15:33] <lasmus> it possible to install ubuntu for an system who have install opensuse on it....it modify bootloader?
[15:33] <erUSUL> creature_: iwconfig show that
[15:33] <esde> anyone know how to load a wireless driver into Hardware Drivers? Specifically Ath5k Driver.
[15:33] <cabrey> ingcomrbr, just disable the firewall temporarily
[15:33] <ingcomrbr> good... thank you
[15:33] <ingcomrbr> :)
[15:33] <cabrey> rockyardwork, select auto eth0, then edit...
[15:33] <mdm> julia_2: revision control is a system, not a simply program.  And you will have to tech the users how to adhere to the standards.  Look up svn or cvs
[15:33] <facemelter> ...any suggestions?
[15:34] <rockyardwork> can I change the name cabrey ?
[15:34] <rockyardwork> or would it just make another one after that
[15:34] <cabrey> rockyardwork, no, uncheck connect automatically
[15:34] <rockyardwork> my ubuntu is really pissing me off
[15:34] <cabrey> well this would be a lot easier if you kept that to yourself
[15:34] <Skylight> hii
[15:35] <julia_2> mdm sorry I forgot that i use samba for accessing the data
[15:35] <ingcomrbr> cabrey: I got iptables... how can I disabled?
[15:35] <cabrey> ingcomrbr, you don't use ufw?
[15:35] <mdm> julia_2: then you will need a subset of revision control called version control and that depends on the files themselves.  what kind of files are they?
[15:35] <rockyardwork> I already have it checked to connect automatically in network for static why does it keep on making another auto eht0 each time I reboot cabrey ?
[15:35] <ingcomrbr> Nop... Iptables.
[15:35] <rockyardwork> that is lame
[15:36] <cabrey> rockyardwork, did UNcheck it for auto eth0?
[15:36] <rockyardwork> why can't I delete it cabrey ?
[15:37] <cabrey> rockyardwork, because it automatically creates a configuration for each network interface
[15:37] <mdm> julia_2: again the issue will be teaching the users to adhear to the policy.  At least that has always been my challenge
[15:37] <rockyardwork> how can you disable that cabrey ?
[15:37] <rockyardwork> I only want one entry
[15:37] <rockyardwork> STATIC IP
[15:37] <rockyardwork> thats it
[15:38] <|Ryan> Is Drurew still in here?
[15:38] <|Ryan> I need his expertise.
[15:38] <rockyardwork> no auto eth0 also
[15:38] <cabrey> rockyardwork, do you just use one network card? and you just want a static ip?
[15:38] <rockyardwork> I have one network card
[15:38] <rockyardwork> and one wireless card
[15:39] <rockyardwork> I already have a static ip
[15:39] <cabrey> rockyardwork, well i really don't know if you can disable that feature
[15:39] <rockyardwork> okay well thanks for letting me know cabrey
[15:39] <rockyardwork> will have to uncheck automatically connect next time when I reboot
[15:40] <|Ryan> !BCM
[15:41] <Nashy> Hi All.  What's the easiest way to get my MX Revolution working properly in Jaunty?
[15:41] <MindSpark> hi, anyone working on a dell vostro 1500 ? I need to setup the volume keys. Any idea how I do that ?
[15:41] <|Ryan> Can you use Wine?
[15:42] <Nashy> Ryan - Who you talking to?
[15:42] <cabrey> !appdb | |Ryan
[15:42] <|Ryan> You, sorry.
[15:42] <Nashy> Ryan - Yes I can use Wine, why's that?
[15:42] <|Ryan> Oh.
[15:42] <|Ryan> Doesn't matter now.
[15:42] <EJSomething> hey everybody! /etc/network/interfaces are overruled sometimes, remastering LiveCD where are the iface settings please?
[15:42] <lazermouse> can someone give me a step-by-step tutorial of how to install moovidia on Jaunty?
[15:43] <cabrey> lazermouse, it kept segfaulting for me
[15:43] <Nashy> So no ideas about MX Revolution mouse?
[15:43] <cabrey> lazermouse, i don't know if they fixed the package
[15:43] <kuba_> kto wie jak zmienic tmat w linuxie mecze sie od 30 minut i nie daje rady:(
[15:43] <cc> timefinger
[15:43] <cabrey> !pl | kuba_
[15:44] <lazermouse> cabery - would you be able to tell me how to install it?
[15:44] <lesshaste> is the next lts release intended to be after karmic?
[15:44] <|Ryan> I need help!!
[15:45] <lazermouse> !ask |Ryan
[15:45] <Nashy> Ryan - What's wrong?
[15:45] <|Ryan> I can't find the BCM43xx driver thing in the Synaptic manager!
[15:45] <|Ryan> It was there earlier!
[15:45] <Skylight> i could use some help :$
[15:45] <lesshaste> looks like it will be leaping lion lts or somesuch :)
[15:45] <rkl_> I could use some change$
[15:46] <cabrey> lazermouse, use this ppa: https://launchpad.net/~moovida-packagers/+archive/ppa
[15:46] <Skylight> got a dedicatet server with ubuntu 8.10 i installed apache .. but cant change files
[15:46] <Skylight> im not the owner or somethingh
[15:46] <hoarycripple> Nashy, i used the MX revolution a few times with an older distro
[15:46] <|Ryan> 'Earlier' as in, I've had to format my HDD and reinstall ubuntu
[15:46] <lesshaste>  which version of nvidia does envyng for jaunty support?
[15:46] <hoarycripple> should be about the same if not easier in Jaunty.
[15:46] <Boohbah> Skylight: uhh.. try the root account
[15:46] <Nashy> Ryan - Not appearing on mine either.  Weird
[15:46] <hoarycripple> did you read the howto yet?
[15:46] <|Ryan> Omh.
[15:46] <|Ryan> Omg*
[15:47] <|Ryan> I need that for my tinternets!
[15:47] <Boohbah> Skylight: or to follow the ubuntu way, add your user account to sudoers
[15:47] <matrixblue> |Ryan, make sure all the software sources are enabled especially the restricted
[15:47] <Nashy> hoarycripple: any ideas about 9.04?  My buttones don't work?
[15:47] <|Ryan> How do I do that?
[15:47] <hoarycripple> Nashy, did you read the howto? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=277388
[15:48] <hoarycripple> Nashy, it has some good information, even though it was written for Dapper.
[15:48] <matrixblue> |Ryan, System > Administration > Software Sources
[15:48] <lazermouse> carey: didn't work :(
[15:48] <Nashy> hoarycripple: Nothing easier?  I really don't feel comfortable playing with that stuff
[15:48] <|Ryan> Thanks, I'll try that.
[15:48] <cabrey> !work | lazermouse
[15:48] <|Ryan> omg.
[15:49] <silv3r_m00n> hi there
[15:49] <|Ryan> It's there now.. -.-
[15:49] <silv3r_m00n> there is a command which I want to execute everytime networking starts...
[15:49] <silv3r_m00n> how can I do that
[15:49] <matrixblue> |Ryan, cool
[15:49] <|Ryan> Thanks Matrix. :D
[15:49] <mdm> ubottu I want more money.  Stupid bot never answers me anyway :P
[15:49] <lazermouse> cabery : what am I meant to say, em... It dosen't work!!
[15:49] <cabrey> lazermouse, can you be more specific
[15:50] <|Ryan> Matrix, how do I reset my network card driver?
[15:50] <lazermouse> ok, adding the ppa didn't work.
[15:50] <matrixblue> |Ryan, in the future when you addressing a particular person say their full name (case sensitive) so they'll get an alert. Sometimes we're doing other stuff
[15:50] <cabrey> lazermouse, error messages?
[15:50] <|Ryan> Ohh.
[15:50] <matrixblue> |Ryan, reset like how?
[15:50] <lazermouse> cabery-yes, i'll post them on pastebin.com
[15:50] <hoarycripple> Nashy, nothing else that I know of.
[15:50] <Youst> I need help please! Flash video is laggy and I cant watch any hd video. Few days ago, HD video was very well displayed on my computer! Any clue?
[15:50] <cabrey> thats what i was talking about
[15:50] <|Ryan> matrixblue As in, restart the driver without having to reboot my laptop.
[15:51] <danierie> hi how is the gconf editor named in kubuntu?
[15:51] <Nashy> hoarycripple: Thanks, I'll jump in the deep end and see if I swim
[15:51] <matrixblue> |Ryan, someone gave the command earlier but I wasn't paying attention
[15:51] <hoarycripple> Nashy, best way to learn :)
[15:51] <lazermouse> cabery-it deleted the ppa crap, dunno what the errors were... :(
[15:51] <cabrey> danierie, gconf-editor
[15:51] <|Ryan> matrixblue: Yeah, I forgot it.
[15:51] <mib_np12gb> hi. any of you have experience running crustal reports 10 with wine? is it feasible?
[15:52] <|Ryan> matrixblue: Any way you can find it out again for me?
[15:52] <cabrey> lazermouse, then re add it. ppa's don't spontaneously delete stuff
[15:52] <hoarycripple> Nashy, in all seriousness, it is unlikely that you will do irreparable damage your system by tweaking those particular settings.
[15:52] <matrixblue> |Ryan, prolly something like /etc/init.d/wlan0 restart
[15:52] <Youst> No clue? :(
[15:52] <lazermouse> cabrey: It wont let me add the ppa, it wants an "apt" line or something
[15:52] <|Ryan> matrixblue: What would the terminal command line be?
[15:52] <cabrey> lazermouse, System > Administration > Software Sources > 3rd Party Software tab
[15:53] <lazermouse> cabrey: been there
[15:53] <silv3r_m00n> how do I run php with a different user ?
[15:53] <cabrey> lazermouse, then you click Add...
[15:53] <hoarycripple> |Ryan, what are you trying to restart?
[15:54] <matrixblue> |Ryan, I dunno
[15:54] <|Ryan> matrixblue: One second.
[15:54] <lazermouse> ok, done that
[15:54] <lazermouse> it wants an apt line
[15:54] <cabrey> lazermouse, and the ppa gives it to you
[15:54] <|Ryan> 01:03.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4311 [AirForce 54g] 802.11a/b/g PCI Express Transceiver (rev 02)
[15:54] <|Ryan> matrixblue: That.
[15:55] <cabrey> lazermouse, if your running 9.04 here it is:
[15:55] <cabrey> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/moovida-packagers/ppa/ubuntu jaunty main
[15:55] <hoarycripple> |Ryan, so you want to restart networking?
[15:55] <|Ryan> Yeah.
[15:55] <lazermouse> cabrey: you don't get me... I put in all that stuff, and the Add Source is greyed out
[15:55] <hoarycripple> |Ryan, sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[15:55] <cabrey> lazermouse, what is greyed out?
[15:55] <lazermouse> cabrey: The Add Source button
[15:56] <hoarycripple> |Ryan, or you can reload the broadcom module.  I don't remember what the module name is, but if you can figure that out, the command is:
[15:56] <cabrey> lazermouse, you just said you put it in
[15:56] <hoarycripple> |Ryan, sudo modprobe module_name
[15:56] <lazermouse> cabrey: I put the ppa stuff in :)
[15:56] <cabrey> lazermouse, so whats the problem?
[15:56] <lazermouse> cabrey, I'll tell it right from the start, wait...
[15:57] <|Ryan> Would it work if I just rebooted m system?
[15:57] <|Ryan> my*
[15:57] <matrixblue> |Ryan, yep
[15:57] <wollex> nick wolle_afk
[15:57] <|Ryan> matrixblue: Lol.. 1 sec.
[15:57] <Skylight> how to log in on root account :$
[15:57] <cabrey> !sudo
[15:57] <matrixblue> !root | Skylight
[15:58] <lazermouse> cabrey: right... I'm trying to install Moovidia and went to Software Sources-3rd Party blah blah... and I put in the ppa you gave earlier but the add source button is greyed out
[15:58] <matrixblue> Skylight, I didn't expect that message. Why would you want to do such a thing?
[15:58] <cabrey> lazermouse, you mean you just put in the URL?
[15:58] <lazermouse> and therefore, it won't add
[15:58] <unko> whats the command to view my network info? it's like if config or somthing?
[15:58] <lazermouse> Get me now cabrey??
[15:58] <rkl_> yes, inconfig
[15:59] <lazermouse> yes
[15:59] <matrixblue> unko, ifconfig
[15:59] <rkl_> ifconfig
[15:59] <genii> unko: ifconfig
[15:59] <unko> thank you :]
[15:59] <cabrey> lazermouse, oh boy, you were supposed to go to that site
[15:59] <cabrey> lazermouse, open up a terminal
[15:59] <lazermouse> cabrey: why didn't you say that earliew :D
[15:59] <lazermouse> ok
[15:59] <cabrey> lazermouse, make it nice and large horizontally
[16:00] <lazermouse> yes
[16:00] <cabrey> lazermouse, type sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[16:00] <rameshwo> how can i know if i sound\video cards drivers are installed or not ??
[16:00] <cabrey> !details | rameshwo
[16:00] <lazermouse> cabrey: rightyo
[16:00] <lazermouse> did it
[16:00] <cabrey> lazermouse, page down until the end of the file
[16:01] <rebgil> Hi I am trying to setup auto mount which I am able to connect to via the places menu - connect dialog using windows share, but I am getting an error on the type - if I can use windows share what should the type argument be in fstab?
[16:01] <lazermouse> yes
[16:01] <ruz322> anyone know why i would have no sound in flash video like youtube? i have sound in amarok and other apps....
[16:01] <cabrey> lazermouse, find the URL you put in earlier and remove it
[16:01] <lazermouse> cabrey: ugh... I cant put the yoke in!!!
[16:02] <lazermouse> cabrey: i told you i couldn't add it
[16:02] <cabrey> lazermouse, you said you did add the url and i said you supposed to visit that site, no add it
[16:02] <lazermouse> cabrey, i'll attempt to do it myself
[16:02] <cc> What Op mean?I'm new here.
[16:02] <ruz322> operator
[16:02] <cabrey> lazermouse, anyways add this to the bottom: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/moovida-packagers/ppa/ubuntu jaunty main
[16:03] <cabrey> the one that can bring the banhammer
[16:03] <ThJ> Is there a repository for cutting-edge versions of ALSA drivers? Internal mic is not working on my early-2008 MacBook Air.
[16:03] <rameshwo> ubuntu ( 8.10 )  can't hear sound .  but have installed audio codecs. and player also plays the song/video but no sound....so how can i check my sound card driver is installed or not ??
[16:03] <herard> hfku
[16:04] <cabrey> !do
[16:04] <cabrey> !audio | rameshwo
[16:04] <rameshwo> !players
[16:04] <bassliner> hi there, i have a netbook i'm running ubuntu on. when i connect that thing via cable ethernet, i get a dhcp ip assigned. i would like to be automatically connected to a wlan AP too, like when i get home and there is no cable connection attached it should automatically connect to my home WIFI ap... any chance to do so?
[16:05] <amy__> hey guys
[16:05] <amy__> can anyone help me please
[16:05] <cabrey> !ask
[16:05] <amy__> Theres a tracker error
[16:05] <cc> What problem?
[16:05] <amy__> I can't get rid of the tracker error
[16:05] <Nehyx> amy__: sudo apt-get install tracker-utils
[16:05] <Nehyx> amy__: tracker-processes -r
[16:06] <Terrible-Tim> hey room
[16:06] <Nehyx> use that 2 commands
[16:06] <Terrible-Tim> i am having the weirdest problem with Wine...
[16:06] <obhk__> my computer often hangs when I open large pdf files (>8MB); since there is no Ctrl-Alt-Del, what can I do when that happens?  It's really annoying, I always end up restarting my computer
[16:07] <hoarycripple> obhk__, kill the offendiing process:  evince
[16:07] <Terrible-Tim> when I want to launch an executable from command line... I change to that directory and run the command 'wine xxx.exe' and it works
[16:07] <hoarycripple> obhk__, pkill -9 evince
[16:07] <ctmjr> !dontzap|obhk__
[16:07] <Terrible-Tim> HOWEVER... if from the terminal... i do 'wine ~/path/xxx.exe' the program looks like it's about to load
[16:07] <Terrible-Tim> and doesnt
[16:08] <Terrible-Tim> no error messages in terminal
[16:08] <obhk__> hoarycripple: I can't, my computer doesn't react to anything anymore when it occurs
[16:08] <hoarycripple> obhk__, that is assuming that you can change to a virtual terminal (CTRL-ALT-F1)
[16:08] <lazermouse> I'm having a problem adding a PPA http://pastebin.com/d55a9266 and http://pastebin.com/d36d01d47
[16:08] <rameshwo> i downloaded a software form (ice walkers ) in zipper type , i unzipped it and saw .jar files.... how to install ? is it in source code format ???
[16:08] <hoarycripple> obhk__, you can also try killing X.  CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE
[16:08] <cabrey> Terrible-Tim, it needs stuff in that directory
[16:09] <Terrible-Tim> cabrey, but i figured simply by telling wine to operate in that dir, it should work
[16:09] <jbwiv> guys, I'm getting random freezes that require a full reboot. It's not X windows freezing...everything is a hard stop and can't even ping the box. What's the typical approach to troubleshooting things like this? Are there any utilities out there that you can install that back up system logs on reboot?
[16:09] <Terrible-Tim> am i wrong?
[16:10] <hoarycripple> obhk__, although in newer xorg, you have to set an option that allows you to do that: Option "DontZap" 0
[16:10] <amy__> how do I get to another channel
[16:10] <amy__> ?
[16:10] <lazermouse> jbwiv: fraid not
[16:10] <jbwiv> er...not system logs....dmesg output
[16:10] <rameshwo> amy__ :  /join #channelname
[16:10] <Terrible-Tim> and if that's the case... I want to make a shortcut in my menu to change to that directory and then launch wine
[16:10] <cabrey> Terrible-Tim, yes because the program looks where it is run from. it probably needs dll's and other crap windows programs come with
[16:10] <jbwiv> lazermouse: so what's one to do
[16:11] <Terrible-Tim> i tried 'cd ~/path & wine xxx.exe'
[16:11] <Terrible-Tim> and it freaked out on me
[16:11] <amy__> thanks
[16:11] <cabrey> Terrible-Tim, thats because it is cd ~/path && wine xxx.exe
[16:11] <Terrible-Tim> thanks
[16:11] <Terrible-Tim> ill try that now
[16:11] <lazermouse> jbwiv: boot into recovery mode at GRUB, go to recovery mode and click dpkg
[16:11] <erUSUL> jbwiv: check the machine logs for serious errors for a start ... do the kb leds blink when the machine freezes ?
[16:11] <lazermouse> might work...
[16:12] <rameshwo> amy__ : feels good to help others... i'm always asking for help .....
[16:12] <jbwiv> erUSUL: didn't see them blink...I'll look for that next time
[16:12] <kharloss> hi, someone can help me with some links  for a program/script  for indexing some companies - something like Yellow pages CD
[16:12] <Terrible-Tim> hmmm
[16:12] <ivan_> please,i need help about configure my webcam,i'm found i guide and in the first line it get me error
[16:12] <smacktalk> what's the best remote desktop server that works with windows clients?
[16:12] <jbwiv> erUSUL: will they continually blink if they blink at all?
[16:13] <cabrey> !webcam
[16:13] <rameshwo>  i downloaded a software form (ice walkers ) in zipper type , i unzipped it and saw .jar files.... how to install ? is it in source code format ???
[16:13] <smacktalk> that's cool ubottu
[16:13] <thomasite> Hello. Can anyone please tell me where can I find a DKU-2 driver for my Nokia 6630? Thanks!
[16:13] <orifice_work> what is tehe process that enables remote desktop ?  I want to start it from the command line.
[16:13] <byron> hi
[16:13] <byron> hi
[16:13] <byron> hi
[16:13] <FloodBot3> byron: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:13] <cabrey> !pm > ivan_
[16:13] <smacktalk> how do i get help with remote desktop
[16:14] <erUSUL> rameshwo: no you can run it with « java -jar file.jar »
[16:14] <smacktalk> hi byron
[16:14] <hoarycripple> smacktalk, try xrdp
[16:14] <rameshwo> erUSUL : so it's java files ??? nothing to deal with make , install ???
[16:14] <smacktalk> i just did, couldn't get it to work
[16:14] <cabrey> !nx | smacktalk
[16:14] <smacktalk> xrdp
[16:15] <lazermouse> !pm >lazermouse
[16:15] <erUSUL> rameshwo: exactly; is a java "binary"
[16:15] <smacktalk> is FreeNX a server or client?
[16:15] <hoarycripple> orifice_work, you want to connect to a windows remote desktop?  the command is rdesktop
[16:15] <rohit> ramen ?
[16:15] <cabrey> smacktalk, it is a server, you can get clients from nomachine.com
[16:15] <lazermouse> @lart cabrey
[16:15] <smacktalk> I want my windows clients to connect to ubuntu
[16:16] <lazermouse> @lart cabrey
[16:16] <cabrey> smacktalk, then your only option is xrdp
[16:16] <lazermouse> @pity cabrey
[16:16] <cabrey> what are you doing?
[16:16] <lazermouse> where's ubottu
[16:16] <cabrey> !ubottu
[16:16] <byron> ubottu??
[16:16] <erUSUL> lazermouse: ubottu uses !
[16:16] <lazermouse> phew
[16:17] <lazermouse> erUSUL: @lart is a command in ubottu
[16:17] <lazermouse> @lart |erUSUL
[16:17] <lazermouse> !lart
[16:17] <jussi01> How does one make qt4 apps take the gtk colour scheme?
[16:17] <erUSUL> lazermouse: the preffix for ubottu (a supybot derivative) is ! not @
[16:18] <smacktalk> xrdp gives me a security error
[16:18] <lazermouse> ubottu has some commands that are @
[16:18] <smacktalk> my ONLY option is xrdp?
[16:18] <jussi01> lazermouse: lart is disabled in here
[16:18] <cabrey> smacktalk, if your running vista that is normal
[16:18] <lazermouse> damn it
[16:18] <smacktalk> running 64bit xp
[16:18] <lazermouse> erUSUL: told you!
[16:19] <cabrey> smacktalk, if it is completely up to date, that is also normal
[16:19] <jussi01> lazermouse: this is strictly support only, you can chatter about that stuff in #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:19] <lazermouse> i know
[16:19] <orifice_work> no no. I just want to start the remote desktop server on the ubuntu machine.  The one I connect to via vinagre
[16:19] <lazermouse> erUSUL: join #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:19] <ha1331_> Any idea why there is red flicker when I watch movies. Just started, happens with SMPlayer and vlc
[16:20] <Terrible-Tim> okay... now i know im not totally crazy... when i try to launch two commands via a shortcut in the apps menu via 'command option && command option' I get 'There was an error creating the child process for this terminal'  I do NOT get this by opening a terminal directly
[16:20] <mdm> lazermouse: you have a mistake in your repository list, probbly a typo or bad char in the line
[16:21] <lazermouse> oh thx
[16:21] <ctmjr> ha1331, try changing deinterlace option
[16:21] <ha1331_> ctmjr: it worked before
[16:22] <lisek> witam
[16:22] <ha1331_> ctmjr: it just started, and it's not on the file, happens on other files also
[16:22] <rameshwo> i got sourcode program for K...   seems it's for KDE   i have gnome ( default ubuntu 8.10 )  . says. not found kde4 config. file or something..... can't i compile it in gnome ??
[16:22] <lisek> jest mozliwe zainstalowac polskiego xp po angielsku?
[16:22] <cabrey> !pl
[16:23] <tyrosine> QUESTION:>> I want to write a program to tell me whether or not somebody is talking into the microphone.  All I need is to poll the microphone (/dev/audio) every few minutes and return a yes/no as to whether there is/isn't talking.  When I cat /dev/audio, a bunch of garbage shows up - how do I turn it into useful information??
[16:24] <lhgg> hey .. trying to update my nvidia drivers
[16:24] <Siriux> I think you should rather look into the alsa api
[16:24] <lhgg> coz when ever i watch youtube or a video in full .. it lags
[16:25] <Dogmeat_> 'ello, I'm having problems with an external HDD. I formatted it to xfs (and connected it to Buffalo LinkStation that I have in my LAN). It worked just fine for sometime but now it doesn't work anymore. (Not through the linkstation, through USB <-> sata/ide converter on Ubuntu nor through connecting it by sata to my WinXP machine). On Ubuntu it at least gives "...read/64 error-71" but that apparently is a USB problem, on WinXP there is no mention o
[16:25] <Wixicy> Hello
[16:25] <Wixicy> Anyone here good with aircrack-ng?
[16:25] <Dogmeat_> can anybody hint at what might be the problem (point me in the right direction) or is there anything that possible could be done to it
[16:26] <smacktalk> so i have xrdp running
[16:26] <cabrey> Wixicy, /join #aircrack-ng
[16:26] <smacktalk> but when I try to connect to it via any xp box...it gives me a security error
[16:26] <Wixicy> Thanks cabrey
[16:27] <smacktalk> not very useful
[16:27] <smacktalk> is there a firewall on ubuntu desktop that I need to disable for this to work?
[16:27] <cabrey> smacktalk, do you have one enabled?
[16:27] <erUSUL> smacktalk: no firewall active on ubuntu by default
[16:28] <smacktalk> oh...wonder why I'm getting a security warning...
[16:28] <mrwes> !ufw | smacktalk
[16:28] <cabrey> smacktalk, what is the warning?
[16:28] <isnusun> hi all
[16:29] <tonyf12> I'm runing on the LiveCD atm, but when I go to install, it says it is corrupt. I have the ISO of the LiveCD, and it is accessible, so is there any way to install from that?
[16:29] <isnusun> is there anyone experienced how to recover data from raid 0 when the cpu is dead?
[16:29] <tonyf12> Or do I need to run to the shop and buy more CD-Rs?
[16:29] <smacktalk> because of a security error the client could not connect to the remote computer. verify you are connected to the network and then try connecting again
[16:29] <erUSUL> isnusun: rpalce the cpu? really more details are needed
[16:29] <sipior> isnusun: have you tried simply swapping the drives into another machine?
[16:30] <Terrible-Tim> when i try to launch two commands via a shortcut in the apps menu via 'command option && command option' I get 'There was an error creating the child process for this terminal'  I do NOT get this by opening a terminal directly and typing in the same exact commands
[16:30] <Terrible-Tim> can anyone help?
[16:30] <sipior> isnusun: or is this hardware raid?
[16:30] <isnusun> sipior : yes, i replace the cpu, but its stopped on md devices
[16:30] <isnusun> no, its software raid
[16:30] <sipior> isnusun: stopped how?
[16:30] <erUSUL> tonyf12: the later --> run to the shop and buy more CD-Rs
[16:31] <durt> Terrible-Tim, My guess would be that && needs to be in a shell to work properly.
[16:31] <isnusun> wait a minutes, let me turn the pc on
[16:31] <shashwatpns> how do i see the desktop cube so that i could rotate it? , i have compiz config installed and i can see the cube when i change my workspaces
[16:31] <erUSUL> !ccsm | smacktalk
[16:31] <erUSUL> !ccsm | shashwatpns
[16:32] <erUSUL> smacktalk: sorry for the spam... tab comletion fail ;)
[16:32] <ikus060> Hi All, I notice meld make some mistake to compare file. So I'm looking for an alternative. .. :) Any suggestion ?
[16:32] <tonyf12> erUSUL: Damn. Ah well. Thanks anyway.
[16:32] <solomon> Hi,  I'm talking a friend through updating Ubuntu to the latest version.  update-manager currently wants to update to 8.04 (IIRC that's hardy, so they're on gutsy).  They're getting some 404's:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/194444/ - I had them aptitude update but they're getting the same thing
[16:32] <smacktalk> I like compiz..nice effects
[16:32] <erUSUL> ikus060: xxxdiff; tkdiff
[16:33] <ikus060> erUSUL : That are all command line .. I'm looking for something with a good GUI
[16:33] <erUSUL> ikus060: only two x for the first one xxdiff
[16:33] <azi__> hm.. is it possible to install ubuntu over my gentoo installation keeping only the /home direcotry intact?
[16:33] <smacktalk> erUSUL:no problem
[16:34] <erUSUL> ikus060: nope xxdiff uses qt and tk diff uses (drum rolls ) tcl/tk
[16:34] <shashwatpns> erUSUL: my question is how to see the cube an i have searched cssm and there is no key shown to display the cube
[16:34] <erUSUL> ikus060: so try them (or at least check some webpage) before you dismiss them
[16:35] <isnusun> sipior: when i replace the cpu, the system is boot ok, but not finished and stopped on : ACPI : PCI Interrupt for device 000:00:if.5 disabled
[16:35] <erUSUL> shashwatpns: simple-ccsm has a drop down menu to change to the cube in the full ccsm you enable the cube plugin
[16:35] <ikus060> erUSUL: I'm installing both right now ..
[16:36] <rameshwo> links for collection of softwares for linux ??
[16:36] <sipior> isnusun: did you make any changes to the BIOS? does it see the disks?
[16:36] <erUSUL> rameshwo: Aplications>Add/Remove
[16:36] <solomon> she says she also just got a long list of un-authenticated packages
[16:36] <shashwatpns> so how do i get the simple one erUSUL
[16:37] <esde> supsup Ubuntu Netbook Remix 9.04, the wireless works now. Im wondering how to set the mode back to Managed instead of monitor.
[16:37] <erUSUL> shashwatpns: the factoid says how. install  'compizconfig-settings-manager' or 'simple-ccsm'. If you install the latter, a new option will appear in  your appearance properties
[16:37] <Jampiter> Hi
[16:37] <Jampiter> How do I run a PY python file?
[16:38] <esde> open it
[16:38] <andry> well. IP is different after restart
[16:38] <esde> then select run
[16:38] <isnusun> sipior: it read the disk. and i got another message now : Check root = bootarg cat /proc/cmdline or missing modules, device: cat /proc/modules ls /dev Reading all physical volumes. ALERT! /dev/mapper/VG-system does not exist. Dropping to shell!
[16:38] <isnusun> and then its give me : BusyBox v1.1.3
[16:38] <erUSUL> solomon: gutsy has reached EOL so the repos are now in old-releases
[16:38] <erUSUL> solomon: that's why he gets 404 i guess
[16:38] <sipior> isnusun: can you boot from a live cd, to rule out the possibility that the installation is broken?
[16:38] <solomon> erUSUL: hrm, do i need to have her change her mirrors then?
[16:39] <erUSUL> Jampiter: python file.py
[16:39] <Jampiter> erUSUL: Thanks :)
[16:39] <solomon> erUSUL: i just realized that she isn't on the latest gutsy updates anyway, so i'm having her run update-manager in its normal mode.  maybe it will point things to the right place
[16:39] <isnusun> sipior: i can boot from a live cd, but no disk is recognized in /dev/
[16:39] <erUSUL> solomon: his sources.list yes instead of archive.ubuntu.com it should read old-releases.ubuntu.com in all urls
[16:40] <Pythack> Hello
[16:40] <erUSUL> solomon: afaik (never tried)
[16:40] <solomon> erUSUL: thanks, i'll give that a try
[16:40] <sipior> isnusun: you'll have to ensure that the raid driver is loaded (see if "lsmod | grep md_mod" returns anything)
[16:40] <erUSUL> solomon: once this is done he can update its gutsy install to the lat packages and then do the dist-upgrade
[16:40] <sipior> isnusun: if not, try a "modprobe md_mod" from the rescue shell.
[16:41] <isnusun> sipior: FYI : the new CPU has different spesification than the original the raid installed
[16:41] <un|matrix> What is PulseAudio's latency supposed to be?
[16:41] <sipior> isnusun: at that point, you'll hopefully have a /dev/md0 device to inspect
[16:41] <erUSUL> ikus060: forgat to mention that if you are sure you found a bug in meld you should try to file a bug report against it
[16:41] <rameshwo> erUSUL ; besides that.....
[16:42] <isnusun> sipior : i will try with the live cd again
[16:42] <ikus060> erUSUL: wep .. you're right .. I will take note of the problem and submit it
[16:43] <paulo----> !torrents
[16:43] <aao_user> hello
[16:43] <paulo----> !torrent
[16:44] <aao_user> i have a problem, my wifi card can't find any networks, after installing and uninstalling kismet... any help ?
[16:44] <aao_user> I'm using Ubuntu jaunty 9.04
[16:46] <juan-pablo> help me i cant see redtube n youtube
[16:46] <erUSUL> aao_user: reboot does not help ? or loading-unloading the wifi driver
[16:46] <erUSUL> juan-pablo: install flashplugin-nonfree
[16:46] <juan-pablo> it doestn woek
[16:46] <newUbux> i can't boot up ubuntu with my wireless dongle in, Why is that?
[16:46] <aao_user> erUSUL I tried sofar: reboot, iwconfig wifi0 down & then iwconfig wifi0 up
[16:46] <kjcole> Any PolicyKit experts here?
[16:47] <aao_user> how can I see the driver I am using in order to do it?
[16:47] <rameshwo> hey, any softwares like internet download manager  that would increase download speed and resume download ..   for ubuntu ?/ any plz..
[16:47] <Quacktop> Hi, i have a question and searching @ google didn't work out: I want to change the file /proc/sys/net/ipv4/conf/eth0/rp_filter, when i save it it tells me: ERROR <fsync>
[16:47] <scubacuda> how does one get an Ubuntu One invite?
[16:47] <Quacktop> Usinig Ubuntu Server 9.04
[16:47] <erUSUL> aao_user: lshw -C Network | grep configuration
[16:47] <sipior> Quacktop: that's not actually a file you're changing
[16:47] <scubacuda> i signed up, but i now gotta wait in line
[16:47] <isnusun> sipior : there's no raid driver. as "lsmod |grep md_mod" return nothing
[16:48] <Quacktop> but i need to change that value
[16:48] <erUSUL> rameshwo: d4x i personalyy use download them all firefox extension
[16:48] <sipior> isnusun: use modprobe to insert it
[16:48] <Quacktop> sudo echo 0 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/conf/eth0/rp_filter didn't work out either
[16:48] <Quacktop> permission denied
[16:48] <newUbux> anyone know why i can't boot up ubuntu with my wireless dongle in?
[16:48] <erUSUL> !info d4x | rameshwo
[16:48] <newUbux> is it because it doesn't recognize the hardware on startup?
[16:48] <lstarnes> Quacktop: try echo 0 | sudo tee /proc/sys/net/ipv4/conf/eth0/rp_filter
[16:49] <sipior> lstarnes: clever use of tee there.
[16:49] <aao_user> erUSUL i found it. now how can I do it? sorry I'm just really starting in linux
[16:49] <isnusun> sipior : how to modprobe raid driver ?
[16:49] <rameshwo> erUSUL : ok i'll have a look at it..
[16:49] <sipior> isnusun: "modprobe md_mod"
[16:49] <ubuntu> join ubuntu-fr
[16:49] <ubuntu> oups
[16:49] <rameshwo> erUSUL: where can i get it ? searching in google ??
[16:50] <Quacktop> ty lstarnes, but why differce Ubuntu a lot from othe distros :/
[16:50] <erUSUL> aao_user: do what? reload the module ? if you rebooted then reloding the module will not be any different
[16:50] <isnusun> sipior : FATAL: module md_mod not found
[16:50] <erUSUL> !software | rameshwo
[16:50] <lstarnes> Quacktop: I'm not sure what you mean by that
[16:50] <Quacktop> i worked with a lot of different distros and with ubuntu i can't use my normal methods
[16:50] <isnusun> sipior : where can i find md_mod module?
[16:50] <rameshwo> !packages
[16:50] <juan-pablo> flash doest work
[16:50] <Jampiter> Hi
[16:50] <Quacktop> but thanks anyway
[16:51] <erUSUL> rameshwo: i told you before Aplications>Add Remove... forget the windows way of doing things... no web searching or dling of random exes from websites
[16:51] <sipior> Quacktop: the best long-term way to change these is to use /etc/sysctl.conf, and set the changes with "sysctl".
[16:51] <Jampiter> Can someone tell me where I can get a tiny bit of help with Python? The channel on Freenode won't let me join.
[16:51] <sgisgi> Hi there guys, I'm trying to help a friend and Im having a bit of an issue... He had a dual boot box, and reinstalled windows, overwriting the mbr
[16:51] <lstarnes> Jampiter: you need to be registered with nickserv to join there
[16:51] <erUSUL> !grub | sgisgi
[16:51] <sgisgi> thanks
[16:51] <juan-pablo> im almost going back to windows
[16:52] <Quacktop> i know sipior
[16:52] <sipior> isnusun: you booted from the live cd? try running the step "detect drives" from the menu.
[16:52] <rameshwo> sgisgi : i think recovery mode will do....
[16:52] <sipior> Quacktop: well, if you know...
[16:52] <Quacktop> but i was testing some stuff, because i'm making a load balancer for 2 internet connections
[16:52] <Jampiter> lstarnes: Is there a channel on another server then?
[16:52] <rameshwo> erUSUL : ok i'll look for d4x  there. in add/remove
[16:53] <lstarnes> Jampiter: it only takes a couple minutes to register your nick here
[16:53] <sipior> Quacktop: you can make temporary changes with sysctl as well.
[16:53] <rameshwo> official name of 8.10 ?????
[16:53] <lstarnes> rameshwo: intrepid ibex
[16:55] <isnusun> sipior: thank you, i will back in an hour. see you all
[16:56] <Pici> !8.10 | rameshwo
[16:57] <rjune_wrk> !9.10
[16:57] <mib_x4havu> hi
[16:57] <mib_x4havu> what could I do to secure my ubuntu?
[16:58] <Dr_Willis> mib_x4havu:  dont run services you dont need.. and read up on general 'linux security' practices.. Its very secure by default
[16:59] <mib_x4havu> can you recommend a good graphical firewall?
[16:59] <mib_x4havu> I'm using firestarter but it's too basic
[16:59] <vaibhav> mib_:try gufw
[17:00] <shashwatpns> erUSUL:You are not getting my question i just want to see the cube so that i could rotate it etc
[17:00] <Dr_Willis> mib_x4havu:  I let my router handle the firewalling.  I dont need any extra firewall stuff on my clients behind it.
[17:01] <mib_x4havu> an extra layer of security is never bad
[17:01] <smacktalk> any ideas on why I'd be getting that security error?
[17:01] <erUSUL> shashwatpns: so the cube is already enabled ? i have "Super + crtl + maouse drag" to move the cube or just "crtl + alt + →"
[17:01] <rameshwo> any links for visual tutorials on linux ??
[17:01] <Dr_Willis> rameshwo:  theres some sites with such things.. but  it all depends on wha tyou want to learn  'linux' is a large topic.
[17:02] <durt> mib_x4havu, if you really need a firewall script on your ubuntu box try arnos-iptables-firewall
[17:02] <CybeRebel> hello all :) anyone know why gtk-recordmydesktop wont open/configure sound card?
[17:02] <psycovic2> how do i install a deb file with lots of dependencies on a computer with no internet? i tried getting the deb file from /var/cache/apt from another computer, but it's downloading the wrong architecture
[17:03] <shashwatpns> erUSUL: dosent work in mine ;whats the key "->"?
[17:03] <rameshwo> Dr_Willis:  command lines. administrative tasks...... but i am looking for audio\video tutorials...
[17:03] <cankoy> rameshwo: linux more about reading than watching.
[17:03] <erUSUL> shashwatpns: cursor keys left or right... are you sure you enabled the cube ?
[17:03] <Dr_Willis> rameshwo:  for command line... go find a few books on bash.  watching a video of someone using bash.. just dosent really teach you much.
[17:04] <Dr_Willis> rameshwo:  same for admin tasks.   Now leraning gnomebasics..there were some video tutorials of that.. but most of it are things you can easially figure out for yourself.
[17:04] <PointMan> how do I force my eth0 network card to release the ip from the dhcp server? the ifconfig eth0 down doesnt work
[17:04] <mau_rizio> hi everybody I'd like to connect to my domestic wireless network from my laptop... as ubuntu has finished installing I run pppoeconf and the connection works fine, then I update ubuntu and restart the system... my wireless card doesn't work at all, can anyone please help me?
[17:04] <jpangamarca> @psycovic2 you need to use aptoncd for creating a offline installation disk. You have to download the packages with Synaptic and then create the disk. You may need to run aptoncd as root so it can read all the packages
[17:04] <rameshwo> Dr_Willis : yes reading is good but visuals strikes directly in mind.. so..
[17:04] <dh003i> hello
[17:04] <erUSUL> mau_rizio: if you are suing wifi why you need to run pppoeconf ???
[17:05] <psycovic2> jpangamarca: i did that, but i'm running on a mac right now and it's downloading the amd files instead of i386..any idea how i can change that?
[17:05] <shashwatpns> i tried ctrl+alt+mouse1 and it worked thankyou very much
[17:05] <mau_rizio> erusul: that is because the connection is veeeery slow otherwise
[17:05] <Dr_Willis> rameshwo: watching a video of someone doing 'command line stuff' is not going to teach you much. reading  is much better. But i guess you can hit google and search for video ubuntu training, or check out theubuntu 'training books here' --> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Training
[17:06] <dh003i> can anyone here help me with this issue? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7442188#post7442188
[17:06] <jpangamarca> @psycovic2 please post the output of $uname -a
[17:06] <Dr_Willis> rameshwo:  learning linux is very much a 'self motivated' sort of thing. :)
[17:06] <erUSUL> mau_rizio: it makes no sense at all you use a tool to configure dsl/cable connections fro speeding up a wifi connection ?
[17:06] <psycovic2> jpangamarca: 2.6.28-11 on x86_64
[17:06] <jesse__> hey all, I'm having some difficulty getting a network printer set up properly.  I can see it fine in System->Administration->Printing (and I can print a test page that way), but it doesn't show up under any of my application's print windows.
[17:06] <jesse__> Also the print to file doesn't seem to be working either, but that's another issue
[17:07] <rameshwo> Dr_Willis: yes i have great interest..  and really want to explore it widely...
[17:07] <dh003i> summarily, the issue is, my keyboard (Northgate Omnikey Evolution, connected via either PS/2 or PS/2 => USB adapter, works fine when logging in from the display manager, or when doing console login and in the console. But it doesn't work at all in KDE (except the CTRL key in GIMP, which when combined with the scroll wheel, lets me zoom in or out)
[17:07] <richj> dh003i, has this problem started recently?
[17:07] <psycovic2> jpangamarca: but i'm installing it on a i386 machine..how do i get the correct deb file?
[17:07] <dh003i> well, periodically, before, the keyboard would stop responding in KDE, and I had to logout and then log back in to get it to work. But now, it just always ONLY works on the login screen, and not in KDE (not in KDE menus, not in Firefox, etc)
[17:08] <Ganymede> is there a command i can run (via ssh) to cause someone to get logged in through gdm? it's currently sitting at the welcome screen on the remote computer
[17:08] <jpangamarca> @psycovic2 mmm... that's why it's download the amd files (x86_64).... gimmie a few minutes
[17:08] <paulo----> hello
[17:08] <Dr_Willis> Ganymede:  not that ive seen, why do you want to do that?
[17:08] <paulo----> can i burn the ubuntu installer on dvd?
[17:08] <rameshwo> what's actually the splash screen  ? which scren it refers to ? first wallpaper ???
[17:08] <paulo----> can still install from that?
[17:08] <erUSUL> paulo----: the iso ? yes
[17:09] <paulo----> ok thanks
[17:09] <Dr_Willis> Ganymede:  you could edit the gdm configs to auto-login someone , and restart gdm.. but thats a little extreme.
[17:09] <richj> dh003i, try adding these to serverflags section of xorg.conf:  Option          "AllowEmptyInput" "off"
[17:09] <richj>         Option          "AutoAddDevices" "off"
[17:09] <distract> i had problems with mouse freezing before, now i added acpi=irqpoll or something to grub boot as guided on ubuntu forums. however, now the mouse seems to work but ive lost all my cool compiz effects, how is this possible?
[17:10] <paulo----> does ubuntu work with laptops?
[17:10] <lstarnes> paulo----: yes
[17:10] <paulo----> does it work with trackpads?
[17:10] <rameshwo> paulo----: of course......
[17:11] <rameshwo> is the internal things same if i use xubuntu or ubuntu or  kubuntu ??
[17:12] <lstarnes> rameshwo: yes
[17:12] <lstarnes> rameshwo: the only difference is the default GUI
[17:12] <rameshwo> and the commands  ?  i hope it doesnt have anything to do with the desktops..
[17:12] <paulo----> is compatability guaranteed?
[17:12] <lstarnes> paulo----: there's no guarantee
[17:12] <Dr_Willis> paulo----:  You want a moneyback guarantee?
[17:12] <lstarnes> paulo----: but if it's in the hardware compatibility list it will most likely work
[17:12] <paulo----> no, as in guarantee that ubuntu will work
[17:13] <dh003i> richj: I tried that, and then typed startx, still keyboard doesn't work
[17:13] <Dr_Willis> paulo----:  try it and see... how can anyone guarantee anything with computers and software? :)
[17:13] <wet-chan> away-
[17:13] <rameshwo> are there different softwares for Xubuntu , ubuntu .... Kubuntu ?
[17:14] <Dr_Willis> rameshwo:  different desktop enviroments for the main part.
[17:14] <Dr_Willis> rameshwo:  the core is the same.
[17:14] <rameshwo> paulo---- : just try it .. i'm sure you'll love it..
[17:14] <paulo----> would installing ubuntu void my warranty?
[17:14] <lstarnes> paulo----: check with your manufacturer
[17:14] <The_Warlock> how do i make urxvt merge into the background?
[17:14] <Dr_Willis> paulo----:  if it did - i would never buy a pc from that maker again...   ive never seen a case where it did.
[17:14] <lstarnes> rameshwo: they use the same repositories, but the default software is different
[17:15] <krzysio> elo
[17:15] <rameshwo> except default . additional softwares ? different or not..
[17:15] <JabberWalkie> rameshwo: really, you can always install whatever you want
[17:15] <PointMan> fresh install of ubuntu 8.04 server, I can connect to my sshd through localhost, but get connection refused from clients, as if its being blocked in the iptables, but it doesnt seam to be there..
[17:15] <Dr_Willis> rameshwo:  Huh? xubuntu has the xfce desktop... kudubnut has the kde desktop.. ubuntu uses 'gnome' - thats about it.
[17:15] <krzysio> xD
[17:15] <mib_x4havu> I'm about to install a fresh new linux
[17:16] <JabberWalkie> rameshwo: gnome gui programs can be run in kde, its no big deal
[17:16] <Dr_Willis> rameshwo:  you can easially install all 3 desktops on a machine.. and pick what one to use at login time.
[17:16] <mib_x4havu> should I go with debian or ubuntu
[17:16] <sebsebseb> mib_x4havu: I just joined, what do you want to do?
[17:16] <paulo----> anyone know anything about "neo"?
[17:16] <rameshwo> JabberWalkie: ok..
[17:16] <Dr_Willis> mib_x4havu:  this is 'linux'  - Your OS Your Way...  do what you want.
[17:16] <sebsebseb> mib_x4havu: have you used Linux before?
[17:16] <JabberWalkie> rameshwo: they just dont work with kde perfectly, but they will still run
[17:16] <waterrave> SIEMA
[17:16] <paulo----> "neo" is a laptop manufacturer
[17:16] <waterrave> co jest kurwa?
[17:16] <krzysio> \
[17:16] <krzysio> nis
[17:16] <krzysio> nic kurwa
[17:16] <savid> Is there a good way to detect what filesystem type a .iso file is?
[17:16] <krzysio> ;p
[17:16] <paulo----> i just read the manual, and the english is a bit iff
[17:16] <FloodBot3> krzysio: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:16] <lightbricko> Is there a way in Jaunty Jackalope to make minimized windows maximize instantly when maximizing? I want to get rid of the one-second maximization animation.
[17:17] <krzysio> kurwa mac
[17:17] <krzysio> ja pierdole
[17:17] <lstarnes> savid: .isos are almsot always iso9660 or some variant
[17:17] <lstarnes> *almost
[17:17] <waterrave> co jest?\
[17:17] <rameshwo> and how about different softwares for different distros...  ? they're different for different distros ??or ...
[17:17] <Dr_Willis> savid:  try the 'file whatever.iso' command
[17:17] <erUSUL> !pl | krzysio
[17:17] <Ganymede> Dr_Willis: sorry, my wireless router gave out, i was saying how there was another way by running x11vnc -display :0 -xauth /var/run/xauth/something like that to get a vnc connection into the GDM window
[17:17] <PointMan> actually the sshd server isnt running t atll
[17:17] <sebsebseb> rameshwo: not quite
[17:17] <JabberWalkie> rameshwo: yeah, and like Dr_Willis said, you can install all the desktop enviroments you want, you can even run multiple desktop servers at the same time
[17:17] <lstarnes> savid: there may be images contained within that have different filesystems
[17:17] <savid> lstarnes, yeah,  it looks ike this one isn't,  as mount -o loop isn't recognizing it
[17:17] <krzysio> server irc.gamasurge.net
[17:17] <PointMan> whats the command to start/restart sshd ? i cant find /etc/initd.d/sshd ...
[17:17] <sebsebseb> rameshwo:  some distros use DEB such as Ubuntu and Debian others use  RPM  such as Fedora and Redhat
[17:18] <savid> lstarnes, any way to determine if there are different filesystems within?
[17:18] <JabberWalkie> rameshwo: that takes a bit of work to set up though
[17:18] <lstarnes> PointMan: it's /etc/init.d/ssh
[17:18] <dh003i> anyone have any suggestions on this problem:
[17:18] <dh003i> ﻿ the issue is, my keyboard (Northgate Omnikey Evolution, connected via either PS/2 or PS/2 => USB adapter, works fine when logging in from the display manager, or when doing console login and in the console. But it doesn't work at all in KDE (except the CTRL key in GIMP, which when combined with the scroll wheel, lets me zoom in or out)
[17:18] <savid> lstarnes, and if that's the case, how can I access those?
[17:18] <JabberWalkie> last time i checked anyways
[17:18] <lstarnes> savid: other than by manually viewing the files, no
[17:18] <sebsebseb> rameshwo: ,but  most of the actsual software will be the same,  they are just done in different package formats
[17:18] <Dr_Willis> Ganymede:  thers ways to set up a vncserver so it gives the user a gdm login screen. But you lose the persistant VNC session features that way.  That is NOT the same as shareing the 'currently seen/visible' desktop on the remote box. You can have several vnc sessions going.
[17:18] <masaca1> Hi all
[17:18] <glitsj16> lightbricko: adjust the settings for the 'animations' in compiz, you can disable those completely if you want
[17:18] <rameshwo> so DEB  works on all debian based only...
[17:18] <krzysio> ??/
[17:18] <sebsebseb> rameshwo: not quite
[17:18] <lightbricko> glitsj16: Thanks!
[17:18] <Dr_Willis> rameshwo:  use ubuntu packages for ubuntu.. debian packages for debian. dont mix them up
[17:18] <krzysio> omg
[17:18] <PointMan> lstarnes: i dont have that, isnt it suppose to be installed with ubuntu 8.04 lts?
[17:19] <sebsebseb> rameshwo: some DEB's are made for Debian, and others are made for Ubuntu
[17:19] <rameshwo> then while downloading softwares i should be careful about my distro... just linux doesn't fulfil ....
[17:19] <lstarnes> PointMan: only if you have openssh-server installed
[17:19] <paulo----> i dont think other os's can match this kind of support
[17:19] <sebsebseb> rameshwo: exactly, but  for stuff that you compile from source such as tar.gz  well that's for everything
[17:19] <JabberWalkie> rameshwo: yeah, I dont doubt it is possible to install debian pakages in ubuntu, but I wouldn't do that
[17:19] <krzysio> kurwa
[17:19] <Pici> rameshwo: you should always look in the software repositories before installing from elsewhere.
[17:19] <Pici> !software | rameshwo
[17:19] <JabberWalkie> rameshwo: just use the pakages that are provied for ubuntu
[17:19] <masaca1> I need help!!
[17:19] <sebsebseb> rameshwo: tar.gz is usaully for all distros,  because you compile from source
[17:19] <Pici> !ask | masaca1
[17:20] <rameshwo> so if i have source code. then it is UNIVERSAL a2
[17:20] <PointMan> lstarnes: i see, well thanks
[17:20] <Dr_Willis> rameshwo:  for the most part.. yes.
[17:20] <cankoy> dh003i: sounds like you've selected an incorrect keyboard layout. I suggest you /join #kubuntu
[17:20] <masaca1> How do I install Avertv Volar HX?
[17:20] <lstarnes> rameshwo: the source code may only work on linux or other unix-like systems, but sometimes it can also be made to work on windows or other OSes
[17:21] <minhchien> he
[17:21] <minhchien> than chao moi ngueo
[17:22] <masaca1> any one can help a beginner?
[17:22] <rameshwo> linux / unix ? which is better    .....  you may ignore my question if it's offtopic.
[17:23] <rameshwo> masaca1 :just ask..
[17:23] <sebsebseb> masaca1: with what?
[17:23] <lesshaste> which repository has the binary nvidia drivers?
[17:23] <Sergjs> ciao
[17:23] <Dr_Willis> rameshwo:  depends on your needs...
[17:23] <masaca1> Avertv volar Hx
[17:23] <sebsebseb> rameshwo: Linux distros are based on Unix
[17:23] <Pici> rameshwo: Please join #ubuntu-offtopic for offtopic discussion
[17:23] <Sergjs> !list
[17:24] <sebsebseb> rameshwo: yeah let's go to  #ubuntu-offtopic  I'll try to explain :)
[17:24] <rameshwo> sebsebseb :i'll be there...
[17:24] <EJSomething> weel with Unix you have to buy a mainframe afaik :)
[17:24] <jdoane> Would anyone happen to know how to get vmware-user to run on boot as root?
[17:25] <erUSUL> jdoane: call it from /etc/rc.local ?
[17:25] <lightbricko> How do I check if Compiz is running?
[17:25] <rameshwo> sebsebseb: see pm at offtopic.
[17:25] <lstarnes> EJSomething: that's not true for most unix variants.  The BSDs can work on most normal servers or desktops
[17:25] <jdoane> erUSUL: I tried using rc-update.d and adding it to run levels 2 - 5 but it didn't work. D:
[17:25] <sebsebseb> rameshwo: no I don't see you in there
[17:26] <sebsebseb> rameshwo: oh you pm'd me
[17:26] <newUbux> ok. so after I did all the things to get my wireless working. somehow it does have sound anymore? anyone can helP?
[17:27] <savid> lstarnes, so it appears this ISO is possibly a "hybrid" (Mac/Win).   Is there any way to read those in linux?  Or should it "just work"?
[17:27] <bryn^_^> lightbricko: you can check to see if compiz is running under processes in System Monitor
[17:27] <wildc4rd> afternoon all
[17:27] <lstarnes> savid: the ISO format is not supposed to depend on a particular operating systems
[17:27] <lesshaste> I get  apt-cache search nvidia|pastebinit Error no arguments specified!
[17:27] <lightbricko> bryn^_^: Thanks!
[17:27] <lstarnes> *system
[17:27] <lesshaste>  I thought pastebinit could take input from a pipe?!
[17:28] <fivetwentysix> What's a good GTK bittorrent client?
[17:28] <fivetwentysix> Vuze is too heavy
[17:28] <kevor> fivetwentysix: you might wanna try rTorrent
[17:28] <savid> lstarnes,  it seems the disk mounts when I specify HFS type.  Maybe it's apple-only...
[17:28] <kevor> it's not GTK, or any GUI for that matter
[17:28] <bryn^_^> fivetwentysix: i like transmission
[17:28] <kevor> but it's super stable, small footprint
[17:28] <erUSUL> lesshaste: according to manpage « cat file | pastebinit -i - »
[17:29] <kevor> and works like a charm :D
[17:29] <newUbux> my Ubuntu doesn't have sound anymore after I got my wireless working? did I block out something that might've affected the sound performance?
[17:29] <cankoy> fivetwentysix: deluge
[17:29] <lesshaste> erUSUL: thanks!
[17:29] <lesshaste> erUSUL: I think it's usage must have changed
[17:30] <dh003i> cankoy: what do you mean, incorrect layout? It was working before? (although periodically I had to logout then back in)? How can I set the layout properly from the terminal?
[17:30] <lesshaste> erUSUL: apt-cache search nvidia|pastebinit -i -
[17:30] <lesshaste> KeyboardInterrupt catched.
[17:30] <xso> does anyone know where I can get access to a Compiz-Fusion preset archive?
[17:30] <newUbux> does anyone know why my sound went away?
[17:30] <vost1> hi all
[17:30] <lesshaste> erUSUL: also the man page on hardy at least says " It allows the text to be passed through a pipe (|) or from a file
[17:30] <lesshaste>        passed as an argument.
[17:30] <lesshaste> "
[17:31] <ineedhelp> hi, I just installed ubuntu studio and when i minimize windows they disapear but are still running????
[17:31] <erUSUL> lesshaste: and it allows that but you have to call it with "-i -"
[17:31] <JabberWalkie> how do I tell what version of ubuntu I have installed?
[17:31] <SeanJM> hello
[17:32] <lstarnes> JabberWalkie: lsb_release -a
[17:32] <erUSUL> !version | JabberWalkie
[17:32] <ineedhelp> JabberWalkie: systen/about ubuntu
[17:32] <cankoy> dh003i: I'm not on KDE now, but there's a place under System Settings that let you select keyboard make, model, etc.. maybe that's broken.
[17:32] <ineedhelp>  hi, I just installed ubuntu studio and when i minimize windows they disapear but are still running????
[17:32] <SeanJM> I've just had something really crappy happen--I accidentally unplugged my USB speakers--sounds in firefox and blender is now not working. I restarted, problem still not solved--Anyone have any ideas?
[17:32] <lesshaste> erUSUL: ok
[17:32] <newUbux> why don't I have sound?
[17:32] <lesshaste> you must have a different man page to me
[17:32] <JabberWalkie> k, thx all
[17:33] <SeanJM> dunno, the sound just stopped working for those two apps
[17:33] <ddaygold> what are the big diffrences between KDE, GNOME, and the one for xubuntu
[17:33] <SeanJM> sound playback in Rythmbox is fine and other apps are fine
[17:33] <lstarnes> ddaygold: xfce?
[17:33] <cgkades> ineedhelp: what happens if you hit alt+tab?
[17:33] <ddaygold> ya
[17:33] <erUSUL> lesshaste: no mine has this too It allows the text to be passed through a pipe (|) or from a file passed as an argument. but also has Required arguments -i [filename] (- for reading from stdin)
[17:34] <JabberWalkie> is it adviseable to upgrade to the latest ubuntu versions when they come out? or are they less stable?
[17:34] <erUSUL> lesshaste: note the bit about *required* argument
[17:34] <newUbux> i have no sound? what happened?
[17:34] <lstarnes> ddaygold: several things, including thw widhet toolkits used, the default applications, and the layout
[17:34] <sebsebseb> JabberWalkie: it's fine to get the latest stable version
[17:34] <JabberWalkie> allrighty, upgrade time..
[17:34] <sebsebseb> JabberWalkie: currently Ubuntu 9.04
[17:34] <lesshaste> erUSUL: right I only have   Required arguments
[17:34] <lesshaste>        -f [filename] (or piped data)
[17:34] <lstarnes> ddaygold: programs meant for one desktop environment can usually work with others
[17:34] <SeanJM> newUbux: did sound suddenly stop working? or never worked?
[17:35] <ddaygold> i've heard that KDE is supposed to be "windows like" and GNOME is "Mac like"... is that true?
[17:35] <SeanJM> ddaygold: kind of
[17:35] <lstarnes> ddaygold: not very
[17:35] <cgkades> ddaygold: if you must put a lable on it
[17:35] <newUbux> it worked before
[17:35] <newUbux> i tried windows, and it works fine
[17:35] <SeanJM> newUbux: did you go to System->Preferences->Sound?
[17:36] <fructose> I just had my network connect unplugged and I tried to reconnect, but it didn't work. I rebooted and it worked fine. Any idea how to fix it so I can reconnect even if the cable is pulled?
[17:36] <newUbux> to do what?
[17:36] <ddaygold> i know "windows like" is not the most loved term in the ubuntu community... but still, it has the same layouts?
[17:36] <krrrrrrrrrre> how do i stop flash videos from being choppy
[17:36] <krrrrrrrrrre> 32bit ubuntu 9.04 with whatever the official repos have
[17:36] <SeanJM> ddaygold: no
[17:36] <JabberWalkie> ddaygold: really, you can make it have whatever layout you want, with a bit of work of course
[17:36] <krrrrrrrrrre> (compiz on)
[17:36] <gyroscope> krrrrrrrrrre: reload page and don't push the play button lol
[17:36] <cgkades> ddaygold: it has something like the start button in the bottom left, and the whole bar is at the bottom
[17:36] <lfaraone> Hi, I installed grub2 and there are now a bunch of mods in my /boot/grub. Do I seriously need them all?
[17:36] <newUbux> what should I do there?
[17:37] <SeanJM> ddaygold: I think you will find that KDE and Gnome are both superior to the Windows UI if you just give yourself the time to get used to it
[17:37] <ddaygold> so i was told wrong, thanks
[17:37] <ineedhelp> cgkades: cool never thought of that
[17:37] <cgkades> ineedhelp: did it work?
[17:37] <SeanJM> newUbux: okay, click test on the 1st one okay?
[17:37] <ddaygold> pretty much anything is better than windows... (vista)
[17:37] <cgkades> ineedhelp: there is a way to add the application "doc" thing that shows you minimized windows
[17:37] <lightbricko> Under "Appearance preferences" there are three options. Is it correct that "None" disables Compiz and "Extra" enables Compiz? If this is correct, what does "Normal" mean?
[17:38] <ineedhelp> cgkades: well yeah i can just use it to navigate the stuff thats open but not visible
[17:38] <erUSUL> lightbricko: normal is compiz with only a few effects enabled
[17:38] <newUbux> what is it supposed to do?
[17:38] <ineedhelp> cgkades: is ubuntustudio supposed to do that?
[17:38] <cankoy> lfaraone: yes! don't remove them!
[17:38] <Dr_Willis> lightbricko:  enables a few of the compiz features/effects. Install the 'ccsm' tool to tweak it fully
[17:38] <glitsj16> lfaraone: that's how grub2 works yes
[17:38] <newUbux> it doesn't sound like anything
[17:38] <Dr_Willis> !ccsm | lightbricko
[17:38] <newUbux> it doesn't sound at all
[17:38] <cgkades> ineedhelp: i havent messed with stuido in a year, so i dunno. do you have a menu bar at the top and bottom?
[17:39] <JabberWalkie> lets say I upgrade to 9.04 and I dont like it, is it possible to downgrade back to 8.04??
[17:39] <ineedhelp> cgkades: just at the top
[17:39] <SeanJM> newUbux: that is fine. Try that drop down menu there, and switch the selection to another sound driver
[17:39] <cgkades> ineedhelp: menu bar is the wrong term.. but a bar
[17:39] <Dr_Willis> !downgrade | JabberWalkie
[17:39] <SeanJM> newUbux: then click test again
[17:39] <lstarnes> JabberWalkie: not without reinstalling.  I would recommend sticking with 8.04 until the next LTS release
[17:39] <JabberWalkie> ahh, fiar enough
[17:39] <JabberWalkie> *fair
[17:39] <cgkades> ineedhelp: right click on the top one and then click new panel
[17:39] <newUbux> keep doing this?
[17:39] <lightbricko> erUSUL and Dr_Willis: Thanks!
[17:39] <ddaygold> JabberWalkie, why would u want to downgrade?
[17:40] <SeanJM> newUbux: untill you get to a driver that works, it wont take long
[17:40] <ineedhelp> cgkades: it's cool i know how to add panels i was just curious why there was only one ?
[17:40] <JabberWalkie> ddaygold: in case I dont like 9.04
[17:40] <lfaraone> cankoy: Ok. /me was just wondering why I needed modules for the amiga, sun, etc.
[17:40] <newUbux> if it works, does it produce a sound?
[17:40] <erUSUL> ddaygold: becouse "s**t happens" ?
[17:40] <cgkades> ineedhelp: could be something screwed up.. or could be how they intended it.. i have no idea
[17:40] <JabberWalkie> ddaygold: also, i have had bad experiences upgrading other linux distros that totally broke my system
[17:41] <psycovic2> does anyone know how to force ubuntu to run at a certain cpu load
[17:41] <SeanJM> newUbux: yes, it will produce a medium pitch tone
[17:41] <ddaygold> JabberWalkie, 9.04 is great, it starts in like 20 seconds and feels just like any (recent) other version
[17:41] <ineedhelp> cgkades: thanks for helping me
[17:41] <cgkades> JabberWalkie: i've never har an upgrad not totaly brick my system
[17:41] <cgkades> ineedhelp: np :)
[17:41] <erUSUL> psycovic2: cpu load ? you mean cpu frequency ?
[17:41] <lfaraone> JabberWalkie: you shouldn't skip releases. either wait till the next lts, or upgrade from 8.04>8.10>9.04.
[17:41] <newUbux> i get nothing
[17:41] <psycovic2> erUSUL: no, i mean having the cpu run at a certain percentage, i guess. this is for an experiment
[17:41] <Pici> !who | newUbux
[17:42] <newUbux> i don't think it's the driver problem
[17:42] <SeanJM> newUbux: out of none of them?
[17:42] <Dhalsim> who works with ubuntu 9.04 in dell inspiron 1525?? can I install without worry?? I had problems with the wireless connections with ubuntu 8.06...
[17:42] <erUSUL> psycovic2: percentage of what?
[17:42] <isnusun> sipior : thank you, i made a stupid mistake. i didn't set the bios system for ahcpi yet
[17:42] <cgkades> Dhalsim: load the live-cd and see if it works :)
[17:42] <ddaygold> ya, that would be a problem
[17:42] <glitsj16> ineedhelp: sounds like you need to find a setting in ubuntustudio, to tweak focus-stealing prevention ... do you have something like window manager settings available somewhere in your menu's?
[17:42] <isnusun> sipior : it works now
[17:42] <lfaraone> Dhalsim: what's your wireless card?
[17:42] <newUbux> SeanJM: none of them works
[17:43] <SeanJM> newUbux: that is not good.
[17:43] <psycovic2> erUSUL: well, like in top where it tells you the cpu usage in percentage
[17:43] <ddaygold> JabberWalkie, the only real reason i upgraded was to take advantage of the insanely fast startup
[17:43] <krzysio> ?
[17:43] <krzysio> ale
[17:43] <krzysio> omg ale z was klopsy
[17:43] <erUSUL> psycovic2: i do not think is easily doable (or even possible)
[17:43] <newUbux> SeanJM: ok. i was trying to get the wireless connection working. and i did! but now the sound is gone
[17:43] <Pici> !pl | krzysio
[17:43] <ddaygold> JabberWalkie, i haven't found much diffrence other than that
[17:44] <newUbux> is there any chance i might've blacklisted something i shouldn't have?
[17:44] <cankoy> lfaraone: they're part of the grub-pc package. synaptic/apt-get/dpkg manages them. you don't have to worry.
[17:44] <JabberWalkie> ddaygold: ahhh, well I only start my sysem up about once per day, if that....so its not a big deal
[17:44] <SeanJM> newUbux: oh, so you had switchy switchy happen eh
[17:44] <newUbux> SeanJM: is there any chance i might've blacklisted something i shouldn't have?
[17:44] <JabberWalkie> *system
[17:44] <newUbux> newUbux:i guess
[17:44] <SeanJM> newUbux: Possibly, I do not know how to help you with that issue--funny enough I am having a sound issue myself.
[17:44] <lfaraone> JabberWalkie: and with suspend/resume, you can start up your system even less than that :P
[17:44] <newUbux> SeanJM: lol
[17:45]  * lfaraone has an uptime of 3 months on his laptop.
[17:45] <newUbux> thx though
[17:45] <JabberWalkie> yeah, but I like giving my comptuer some rest....
[17:45] <SeanJM> no prob, :-)
[17:45] <newUbux> SeanJM: thx though
[17:45] <krzysio> aelo
[17:45] <krzysio> elo
[17:45] <krzysio> elo klopsy
[17:45] <jesse__> I've recenetly found and installed a network printer.  I can print test pages fine from the System->Administration->Printers, but the printer doesn't show up under and of my applications when I go to print (e.g. Firefox)
[17:46] <wuseyejin> list
[17:46] <Dhalsim> lfaraone; hey man.. broadcom... 1490..
[17:46] <scone> hey all
[17:46] <scone> trying to configure dual monitors with 2 video cards
[17:46] <scone> can anybody help me out?
[17:47] <ddaygold> scone
[17:47] <theyeti> scone: well, can you be more specific.  what is the problem your having?
[17:47] <scone> well i guess i don't know where to start heh
[17:47] <ddaygold> scone, do you have an nvidia graphics card?
[17:47] <newUbux> anyone know why my sound disappeared after i got my wireless working?
[17:47] <scone> yes, they're both nvidia
[17:48] <ddaygold> do you have both drivers
[17:48] <scone> well, i downloaded envy, but installing the driver broke X
[17:48] <scone> so i uninstalled it
[17:48] <scone> i can just use the stock "nv" driver for now right?
[17:49] <JabberWalkie> newUbux: check if ALSA is running?
[17:49] <SeanJM> newUbux: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting
[17:49] <ddaygold> scone, check synaptic and add/remove for the name of your video card
[17:49] <scone> synaptic?
[17:50] <ddaygold> then install system>administration>synaptic package ...
[17:50] <newUbux> JabberWalkie: it says testing... but doesn't produce sound
[17:50] <scone> ddaygold: installing...
[17:50] <newUbux> JabberWalkie: somehow i think the drivers are working, just that nothing is producing any sound
[17:50] <JabberWalkie> newUbux: check out the link SeanJM gave
[17:50] <newUbux> JabberWalkie: yeah
[17:50] <ddaygold> sry forget the first to words, to get to synaptic got to system>adminstration>synaptic
[17:50] <lfaraone> Dhalsim: did you try the steps at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx ?
[17:51] <ddaygold> two words
[17:51] <skynet> how do I connect to irc.xnet.org
[17:51] <lstarnes> skynet: what client do you use?
[17:51] <Guest34930> lstarnes: xchat
[17:51] <lstarnes> Guest34930: /newserver irc.xnet.org
[17:52] <ddaygold> scone, nvidia has an app for their cards, but you need the drivers installed, so thats why you have to search add remove and synaptic
[17:52] <Guest34930> lstarnes: "connection refused"
[17:52] <scone> ok
[17:52] <scone> so i'm in synaptic, but i don't really know the type of cards
[17:52] <scone> i just swiped them from old pc's
[17:52] <scone> they're pre-geforce i think...
[17:52] <ddaygold> does it say on the card?
[17:52] <scone> mm
[17:53] <scone> lspci says its an NV5 and NV5M64
[17:53] <fructose> My network connection became unplugged, but I couldn't get it working again without rebooting. Anyone know why this might be?
[17:53] <azi__> i've now installed ubuntu by resizing a previous system partition. on that partition I have my /home dir. since the partition on which ubuntu lives is too small to simply copy over the previous home, is there any way I could set my home directory to this second partition's home?
[17:54] <scone> ddaygold: i assume its gonna be the oldest driver
[17:54] <cgkades> azi__: yes
[17:55] <azi__> cgkades: any howto link or pointers would be great
[17:55] <cgkades> azi__: have you already installed ubuntu? or are you about to?
[17:56] <azi__> cgkades: freshly installed
[17:56] <azi__> cgkades: i haven't used my /home on the new installation tho
[17:56] <Dhalsim> lfaraone; no...  I tried something with windows driver... but, dont worked... I just got with ubuntu-dell... that has all drivers... but.. but still one thing... the connection dont failed... but works slowly..
[17:57] <Dhalsim> lfaraone; but I note the link that you have ... I try later ...
[17:57] <cgkades> azi__: i'm not 100% on this, as i dont have my ubuntu machine in front of me. but you can set it to mount that partition as your /home
[17:57] <riyo> Trying to install Ubuntu on my Macbook, after following this tutorial, it says its rebooting, and its just a black screen (with the backlight on), so I power it down manually, boot up, and get a folder with a question mark on it...Umm...what did I do? Thats all I get now :(
[17:57] <hoo-hah> hello
[17:57] <cgkades> azi__: give me a sec and i'll try to remember where it's set up
[17:57] <hoo-hah> any of you happen to know how to get the droid front?
[17:57] <Dhalsim> lfaraone; sorry about my english! hehe.. I'm from brazil.. do you speak portuguese? =P
[17:57] <riyo> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MactelSupportTeam/AppleIntelInstallation - Dual Boot OSX and Ubuntu
[17:58] <cgkades> azi__: you can use the mount command right now to mount it to /home to test it out
[17:58] <ubuntu> hi all
[17:59] <cgkades> azi__: you'll want to make an entry in your /etc/mtab to auto mount it after you are sure it will work as your /home
[17:59] <azi__> cgkades: even though i'm logged into the system atm?
[17:59] <cgkades> azi__: ah yeah.. good point
[17:59] <ubuntu> which dpi fonts we see in 1024x768 with xubuntu? which default 75 or 100?
[18:00] <cgkades> mount the drive, and make sure you have all the proper permissions and stuff first. you can mount it in /mnt/whatever
[18:01] <azi__> cgkades: ya, that works
[18:01] <cgkades> azi__: do you know how to put the entry into your mtab?
[18:02] <saywhat> Hey guys. What ftp client do you recommend and how can i set it up so that i connect to an ftp server through a proxy? Thanks
[18:02] <Dr_Willis> I thought one edited /etc/fstab  not /etc/mtab
[18:02] <erUSUL> !info filezilla | saywhat
[18:02] <glitsj16> ubuntu: you can adjust the default dpi in xubuntu through the settings manager (Appearance, font tab) .. i believe the default is 96 dpi for that resolution
[18:02] <cgkades> Dr_Willis: you may be right, it's been a while
[18:03] <cgkades> saywhat: filezilla
[18:03] <Dr_Willis>  /etc/mtab --> This file handles the mounted devices and is automatically updated by the mount command.
[18:03] <cgkades> Dr_Willis: ah ok, thanks for the correction
[18:03] <rameshwo> can a newbie handle Xfce desktop .   or gnome n kde is better ??
[18:04] <saywhat> cgkades it doesnt seem to be compatible with 9.04 or something or at least the one in the "ADD/remove programs"
[18:04] <Dr_Willis> rameshwo:  they are all rather easy to learn.
[18:04] <cgkades> saywhat: have you looked at their site to see if they have a debian package?
[18:04] <Dr_Willis> rameshwo:  and you can easially install all 3 and try them all out on any ubuntu disrto
[18:04] <erUSUL> Dr_Willis: FYI  read somewhere /etc/mtab its not that relyable it si better to rely on /proc/mounts ...
[18:04] <Dr_Willis> erUSUL:  i cant recall ever needing to mess with mtab really. :)
[18:04] <rameshwo> Dr_Willis: i have slow internet speed..  so problem download..
[18:04] <Dr_Willis> other then seeingit mentioned in some error messages
[18:05] <hoarycripple> saywhat, try gftp
[18:05] <Dr_Willis> rameshwo:  if your system specs are rather low. Youmay want to try xubuntu othewise - stick with ubuntu
[18:05] <moreia> Still trying to get Tomboy going after it choked in the update from Ubuntu 8.04 to 8.10:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tomboy/+bug/385704 I think there's more there than meets the eye, as my audio is also crapped out and a lot of programs that appear designated to launch on start up are not launching.
[18:06] <erUSUL> Dr_Willis: i mean for getting info of course mtab and /proc/mounts are not meant to be edited
[18:07] <unitedp0tsmokers> hello, what is a software like visual basic in ubuntu?
[18:07] <rameshwo> Dr_Willis: any advantages  of ubuntu over xubuntu        yesi have low systm spec.. 256 Ram , 735 Mz procesor . please don't suggest me mini distors . it doesn't feel like running linux....
[18:07] <erUSUL> !info gambas2 | unitedp0tsmokers
[18:07] <sparr> What could cause javascript to stop working in a single firefox tab?
[18:07] <Dr_Willis> rameshwo:  low system specs = Use xubuntu then.
[18:07] <Spasysheep> !info gambas2 | spasysheep
[18:08] <Dr_Willis> rameshwo:  and i use many mini-disrtos. :)  How can you say they dotn feel like running linux? you have much linux experience?
[18:09] <Dr_Willis> rameshwo:  and your sysem specs are very low for xubuntu. it should run. but more ram would be a big big help.
[18:09] <glitsj16> sparr: do you have the NoScript addon installed in firefox? That could block javascript
[18:09] <ubuntu> I'm trying to fix a broken installation from a live cd but I have 8.10 and I'm trying to repair 9.04 installed on Ext4. Is there any way to have Ext4 support in 8.10?
[18:09] <rameshwo> i read requiremnt 256 mb ram in ubuntu 8.10  and happily installed it. but was slow...
[18:09] <sebsebseb> rameshwo: standard Ubuntu is ok on 256MB RAM can be
[18:10] <sebsebseb> rameshwo: also with a bigger swap say 512MB RAM, it may run even better
[18:10] <ltcabral> what command should i use to list actual user's group?
[18:10] <sparr> glitsj16: I do not
[18:11] <cawnc4> how do you tell how big your swap is?
[18:11] <frostburn> ltcabral, groups
[18:11] <Dr_Willis> cawnc4:  'free' command
[18:11] <frostburn> cawnc4, cat /proc/swaps
[18:11] <erUSUL> ltcabral: « id »
[18:11] <glitsj16> sparr: ok, not much to go on i suppose... did you try to check the specific website in another browser to rule out a server problem?
[18:12] <cawnc4> is that in bits/bytes/kbits etc?
[18:12] <Spasysheep> I have two ubuntu installations, one that's been set up with all of the packages it want and had the unnecessary ones removed(A), and one fresh(B). Does anyone know of a way to get a list of all the packages that (A) has installed and make (B) exactly like that e.g. remove all the ones that have been removed? I know how to install all the packages (A) has, just not how to auto-remove the ones it doesn't.
[18:13] <cawnc4> how do you run compiz?
[18:13] <erUSUL> !clone | Spasysheep
[18:13] <Dr_Willis> Spasysheep:  check out the commands the !clone factoid gives?
[18:13] <frostburn> cawnc4, swaps is in kbytes
[18:13] <Dr_Willis> :)
[18:13] <cawnc4> frostburn thanks
[18:13] <sparr> glitsj16: it is not website specific
[18:14] <Spasysheep> erUSL, Dr_Willis: will that also remove the ones I want removed?
[18:15] <Spasysheep> !automate
[18:15] <Dhalsim> ext3 or ReiserFS ?
[18:16] <Webuser> alguem ai pode me ajudar ? ?
[18:16] <glitsj16> sparr: hmm, just wondering how you noticed javascript wasn't working in that one tab?
[18:17] <genii> !br | Webuser
[18:17] <erUSUL> !br | Webuser
[18:17] <Webuser> [genii]: /j ##ubuntu-pt
[18:18] <sparr> glitsj16: page with JS wasnt working, and bookmarklets didnt work on it either, long troubleshooting steps later I ended up with the page open in another tab and it worked.  then in the first tab i went to various JS test pages and none of them worked
[18:18] <cawnc4> when typing this in 9.04 terminal (sudo apt-get install compiz compizconfig-settings-manager)
[18:19] <cawnc4> i get this errorchase@chase-laptop:~$ sudo apt-get install compiz compizconfig-settings-manager
[18:19] <cawnc4> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[18:19] <cawnc4> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[18:19] <cawnc4> chase@chase-laptop:~$ sudo apt-get install compiz compizconfig-settings-manager
[18:19] <cawnc4> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[18:19] <cawnc4> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[18:19] <FloodBot3> cawnc4: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:19] <frostburn> cawnc4, close your synaptic package manager
[18:20] <cawnc4> when trying to install compiz fusion i get this errorhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/194523/
[18:20] <Dr_Willis> cawnc4:  use the proper package names, and you may want touse the synaptic pacakge manager.
[18:20] <Dr_Willis> cawnc4:  and you an only have one 'package manager' progarm going at a time.
[18:20] <cawnc4> I got that directly from the ubuntu website
[18:20] <cawnc4> oh that would explain it LOL
[18:21] <Dr_Willis> sudo apt-get install compiz compizconfig-settings-manager (is not correct)
[18:21] <Dr_Willis> !ccsm
[18:21] <cawnc4> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion
[18:21] <genii> Webuser: /join #ubuntu-br   ou:  /join #ubuntu-pt     <--escolha # e não dobro #
[18:21] <Dr_Willis> actually compiz is installed allready. :)
[18:21]  * Dr_Willis uses tab completion with apt-get (yes it DOES work) :)
[18:22] <blind|melon|chit> Hello :> I'm trying to get at a contact in my Evolution address book through a remote terminal, is there any way of listing the contacts from the command line?
[18:22] <Dr_Willis> blind|melon|chit:  you could just run a vncserver, and get a remote desktop. (or ssh -X to the remote box, and run the app and have it appear locally)
[18:24] <blind|melon|chit> Dr_Willis: Hmm...true enough, I'll give that a try :>
[18:25] <BeGeMoT> hi all
[18:25] <XbmcUser> Hi
[18:26] <XbmcUser> I can't connect via wifi
[18:26] <BeGeMoT> i have one small question..... why my ubuntu box is very slow to show movies and crush when i try make movie fullscreen
[18:26] <BeGeMoT> but tuxracers running fine and fast
[18:26] <XbmcUser> My network manager changes password
[18:27] <BeGeMoT> config - built-in Ati Radeon HD 3200, CPU - Amd Athlon x2 64 2,5Ghz, ram 4Gb, 512 under video (max in bios)\
[18:27] <XbmcUser> What i should do?
[18:28] <Sefler> I can't shutdown my laptop in Ubuntu 9.04, any ideas?
[18:28] <BeGeMoT> press power button for 5 sec =)
[18:28] <xiong> Sefler, that sounds to me like an issue :(
[18:29] <frostburn> BeGeMoT, what are the movies encoded as?
[18:29] <BeGeMoT> xvid, mkv, dvd....
[18:29] <BeGeMoT> output FullHD on plasma using hdmi cable
[18:29] <BeGeMoT> divx...
[18:29] <BeGeMoT> mpeg2
[18:30] <frostburn> XbmcUser, i'd run a wireshark and see what packets are going over the line, but that might be a little advanced
[18:30] <BeGeMoT> trying make up htpc...
[18:31] <Sefler> I said I can't shutdown in a normal way every time. The system stops responding after the progress goes to zero.
[18:31] <BeGeMoT> motherboard gigabyte GA-MA78GM S2H
[18:31] <Arceye> which would be easier on the cpu for a server box, download ubuntu server and install x onto it    or download the desktop version and install the server items ?
[18:31] <frostburn> BeGeMoT, direct rendering enabled? glxinfo|grep direct
[18:31] <BeGeMoT> yep
[18:31] <Sefler> But the monitor is not powered off.
[18:31] <BeGeMoT> frostburn - yep
[18:31] <XbmcUser> When i put password in wlan manager everything is fine.but then after few seconds pops-up 2nd time window with passord confirm
[18:31] <porter1> does dd capture the MBR if I am copying all of the primary hard drive? I had trouble with clonezilla because it screwed up GRUB...
[18:31] <jamescarr> any idea what I can do to get my monitor output on my laptop to work???
[18:31] <frostburn> BeGeMoT, run a top when trying to play the video, what's your load average at?  is a single core maxed out?
[18:32] <jamescarr> it worked with Ubuntu 8
[18:32] <jamescarr> in jaunty it no longer works.. none of the fn keys do
[18:32] <jamescarr> I take that back.. the fn keys do work, just the redirect output to lcd one does not
[18:32] <porter1> jamescarr, it really depends on the video card type
[18:33] <MyWay> hi, does somebody know how to make GeForce 7050 / nForce 610i working? i have only 640x480 and 800x600 and no restricted drivers -_-
[18:33] <BeGeMoT> 50% for each core
[18:33] <jamescarr> cool I got it working!
[18:33] <XbmcUser> When i look inside network manager i can see another key entered than i've entered before
[18:33] <deany> porter1, odd.  I use it all the time.  Im using the experimental one tho, based on jaunty, for ext4 support
[18:34] <cawnc4> ccm
[18:34] <porter1> deany, which clonezilla version?
[18:34] <frostburn> BeGeMoT, what program are you using to do playback, try it with vlc, mplayer
[18:34] <deany> porter1, no need to restore grub either if its already there...if all you are doin is restoring partitions..
[18:34] <deany> porter1, http://clonezilla.org/download/sourceforge/experimental/iso-zip-files.php
[18:34] <porter1> deany, it seems to 'break' grub
[18:35] <NetLarIrvine> Ubuntu runs fine on AMD processors right?
[18:35] <porter1> At the end of the restore, it acts like it's trying to install a different version of GRUB or something
[18:35] <frostburn> NetEcho, yes
[18:35] <frostburn> er NetLarIrvine yes
[18:35] <marius> hello ppl
[18:35] <NetEcho> lol
[18:35] <headrx> How do i see the name of a mnt point ? trying to format my usb drv its name is 'disk'
[18:35] <NetLarIrvine> How about nVidia GeForce cards
[18:35] <deany> porter1, try that version then..  i dont restore grub if its already there, and im just restoring a partition
[18:35] <porter1> deany, does your grub after restore find menu.lst?
[18:35] <MyWay> hi, does somebody know how to make GeForce 7050 / nForce 610i working? i have only 640x480 and 800x600 and no restricted drivers -_-
[18:36] <siwon> ah buzy channel
[18:36] <deany> I have done it tho, successfully
[18:36] <erUSUL> headrx: grep disk /proc/mounts
[18:36] <porter1> deany, because mine didn't. It gave me the infamous grub prompt
[18:36] <frostburn> headrx, ls -l /dev/disk/by-label/
[18:36] <NetLarIrvine> nVidia is supported well on Ubuntu also?
[18:36] <Dr_Willis> headrx:  try the 'mount' command.. and if from windows you give the drive a proper 'name/label' it wont use 'disk' under linux :)
[18:36] <Guest13485> can I remove widdows os without removing other files on the windows partition?
[18:36] <frostburn> MyWay, try the restricted drivers?
[18:36] <Guest13485> I need to make that a ubuntu oart.
[18:36] <grawity> Guest13485: Yes
[18:36] <Guest13485> part.
[18:37] <Guest13485> yes? wow
[18:37] <headrx> ah, not worried about the name, i actually migrated from windows completely
[18:37] <Dr_Willis> headrx:  if its ext2/3/linux filesystem use the 'tune2fs' comman to set a disk label also.
[18:37] <deany> !grub | porter1
[18:37] <XbmcUser> MyWay you can try envyng
[18:37] <Hajuu> Hi guys, I am trying to run an application and capture any and all console output generated. I have tried just piping it to a file, and i've tried running it in a shell and piping the output of the shell instance, but neither way has been able to capture any and all command output.. Anyone got any ideas how I can capture everything into a file?
[18:37] <headrx> Dr_Willis: im installing linux on it, should i format with ext3 ?
[18:38] <Guest13485> and how on earth can I do that thing? :))
[18:38] <grawity> Guest13485:  rm -rf WINDOWS "Program Files" "System Volume Information" RECYCLER pagefile.sys NTDETECT.COM ntldr
[18:38] <frostburn> Hajuu, it's most likely being outputted as stderr instead of stdout, you'll need to redirect that as well
[18:38] <MyWay> frostburn: there aren't
[18:38] <Dr_Willis> headrx:  im not clear on the details of hwat you are doing  - So i no idea. :)
[18:38] <grawity> Guest13485: Ah, and hiberfil.sys and boot.ini
[18:38] <porter1> deany, I've tried all of that. GRUB gives me 'Error 15' after setting the root and setting up.
[18:39] <Hajuu> frostburn: sure, how do I do that in a similar style to pipe
[18:39] <porter1> I have a very simple setup too. Just the typical one hardive with ext4 and a swap
[18:39] <frostburn> Hajuu, http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Bash-Prog-Intro-HOWTO-3.html
[18:39] <Dr_Willis> headrx:  if you install 'linux' to a hard drive.. you will want to use a linux filesystem. such as ext2/3/4 or similer. :)  the installer normally can partition/format the disk as needed
[18:39] <headrx> Dr_Willis : want to install a version of ubuntu (i have the 7.10 iso) just so i can boot up into linux to burn some data off roomies computer  (severely infected)
[18:40] <Hajuu> lol ahh thats weird
[18:40] <headrx> not interested in using it anymore after then as i have 9.04 installed on this machine and server
[18:40] <Hajuu> thanks alot frostburn
[18:40] <porter1> Then I tried simply installing vanilla Ubuntu, then copying over some root folders
[18:41] <porter1> But, fat doesn't support symlinks -.-
[18:41] <Dr_Willis> headrx:  there are live cd's that let you do that. :) they can run totally in ram. No install needed.
[18:41] <frostburn> porter1, what are you trying to accomplish?
[18:41] <lanoxx-> how do i remove the compiz blacklisting?
[18:41] <headrx> Dr_Willis: perfect scenario except that he only has one optical drive
[18:41] <deany> porter1, dunno dude.  clonezilla never failed me.  try that newer ubuntu based version.
[18:41] <headrx> so i cant burn
[18:41] <porter1> frostbum, I'm trying to simply backup a hard drive.
[18:41] <lanoxx-> i just updated to intel 2.7.1 and 2.6.30
[18:41] <BeGeMoT_> Xorg - have 80% in top, vlc have 10%
[18:41] <Dr_Willis> headrx:  puppy linux and other small disrtos can go totally to ram. :) and freeup the optical disk
[18:42] <Guest13485> ok, but I want to make that partition to be a native ubuntu one
[18:42] <Guest13485> :))
[18:42] <frostburn> BeGeMoT, top is running at 80%? o.O
[18:42] <WanFu_> is there a way, while in X, to change the screen resolution on the fly, with some hotkey combo?
[18:42] <headrx> ill have to check into that
[18:42] <Dr_Willis> headrx:  they wont be ussing kde/k3b - of course.. but other burning tools.
[18:42] <porter1> frostburn, I'm trying to simply backup a hard drive.
[18:42] <porter1> Sorry about name
[18:42] <lanoxx-> WanFu_, use randr
[18:42] <BeGeMoT_> frostburn no
[18:42] <BeGeMoT_> 50%
[18:43] <lanoxx-> porter1, whats your question?
[18:43] <frostburn> porter1, i'd boot up a live cd and then copy the hard disk
[18:43] <WanFu_> lanoxx-, I cant tho, it is set at a resolution my monitor does not support, even tho I changed xorg.conf
[18:43] <BeGeMoT_> top 48% cpu
[18:43] <BeGeMoT_> idl 49
[18:43] <porter1> frostburn, using dd, right? It's slow as hell
[18:43] <porter1> I'm doing it right now tho
[18:43] <lanoxx-> WanFu_ usually u can use randr to controll the resolution, if not i dont know, sorry
[18:43] <frostburn> porter1, dd, rsync, cpio whatever you need to get the job done
[18:44] <lanoxx-> porter1, u have to add bs=2M to speed up dd
[18:44] <lanoxx-> otherwise it will copy one byte at a time and thats very slow
[18:44] <frostburn> BeGeMoT, do a cat /proc/cpuinfo does everything look ok there?
[18:44] <WanFu_> lanoxx-.. is there a hotkey to get to a terminal?
[18:44] <BeGeMoT_> it make me crazy.... first linux for media pc and it not run from box... my lovely windows...
[18:44] <lanoxx-> WanFu_, ctrl_alt_f1
[18:44] <tyler_d1> I am trying to specify in mdadm a single disk for booting off of, the problem I am having is that post configuration I reboot, and initramfs tries to boot from the raid array, my os resides on a single disk. I end up with the (initramfs) prompt and am unable to boot from the device
[18:45] <WanFu_> ty\
[18:45] <siwon> anyone familar with gdesklets? i'm a noob and i'm having an isue with some apps like themes and icons and what not so i installed gdesklets but when i go to application the click on it then it creats an error saying could not launch, failed to execute child process, no such file or directory???
[18:45] <tyler_d1> what do I need to add to force initramfs to boot from the single disk rather then the raid 5?
[18:45] <lanoxx-> welcome
[18:45] <porter1> lanoxx-, too late. I wasn't sure what the best blocksize value would be
[18:45] <sysdoc> Guys I now have a few objectives which include: 1 installing the source for the planet CCRMA kernel and re compile for this hardware (also needed for Line6 driver). 2 get alsa to ID this sound card (intel-HDA Realtec888 codex) correctly and correct the ALSA mixers sliders to correctly control the right outs.  Does anyone have howto's or other material that could assist in this? please pm any links you may have, I have to step a
[18:45] <sysdoc> way and don't know how long I'll be. Thanks
[18:45] <headrx> Dr_Willis: i think ill install ubuntu on my usb drive and just boot that way, that way i can use standard tools
[18:46] <lanoxx-> porter1, the best size differes from drive to drive, but for me, when i once used dd the speed increase was from 2 days to 2 hours after I added the bs option
[18:46] <lanoxx-> for a copy of 100gb
[18:46] <headrx> Dr_Willis: if my usb drive is /dev/sdb1 how should i format?
[18:46] <lanoxx-> can any one tell me how to remove the compiz blacklisting for intel on jaunty?
[18:46] <porter1> lanoxx-, thankfully I'm just trying to backup these small drives (35GB), so it isn't too painful
[18:47] <lanoxx-> porter1, ok then, anyway if its too slow you can still start over again
[18:47] <lanoxx-> there is also a command to see how far dd has gome
[18:47] <porter1> lanoxx-, actually I got 3 gigs left
[18:47] <lanoxx-> hehe, ok
[18:47] <porter1> :)
[18:48] <lanoxx-> brb
[18:49] <spart2> can anyone tell me if ich9r raid is supported on Ubuntu 9.04?
[18:50] <mib_4psm53lb> password help please!
[18:51] <porter1> mib, what specifically?
[18:51] <mib_4psm53lb> ran my laptop for ages with the password bypassed so i never had to login. after updating to 904 and restarting its asking for the password again and its been so long that i dont remember
[18:52] <Flannel> mib_4psm53lb: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LostPassword  will walk you through setting a new one
[18:52] <porter1> mib, you can run the live CD and reset it if you want.
[18:52] <Flannel> Don't even need a liveCD
[18:52] <porter1> Ah, yes, ignore me
[18:52] <porter1> :P
[18:53] <Dracofodder> question on video playback in ubuntu.  I think I have all the codecs installed, as I can download and play podcasts (H264 format for example)  but streaming is choppy and slow from youtube, hulu and other places.  Is this bad playback likely a factor of my cpu speed (old computer) nic, codec, or some other thing?
[18:53] <porter1> Dracofodder, in fullscreen?
[18:53] <BeGeMoT> http://pastebin.com/m1d93a301
[18:53] <Dr_Willis> Dracofodder:  more likely  one of the many 'flash' annoyances.  - we just LOVE flash....
[18:53] <Dracofodder> porter1: nope, small.
[18:53] <porter1> Dracofodder, I believe that flashplayer is simply cruddy
[18:53] <john> hi
[18:53] <siwon> anyone familar with gdesklets? i'm a noob and i'm having an isue with some apps like themes and icons and what not so i installed gdesklets but when i go to application the click on it then it creats an error saying could not launch, failed to execute child process, no such file or directory???
[18:54] <siwon> just let me know when its my turn
[18:54] <siwon> ty
[18:54] <porter1> Dracofodder, on some of the nicest computers I've run Ubuntu on, flashplayer is still slow
[18:54] <Dr_Willis> siwon:  mentioned in the forums  at times.  gdesktlets needs the older version of python to be installed.. and for what its worth.. i wouldent mess with gdesklets.  its not very good.
[18:54] <porter1> Even with accelerated graphics set in Flash settings
[18:54] <Dracofodder> porter1: Dr_Willis.. agreed on flashplayer in both cases, but I used to have a beefier laptop that ran "ok" using opensuse.  I no longer have that hardware, and in all things on this old machine the video is the only thing that is a problem
[18:55] <Dr_Willis> siwon:  i tend to use 'screenlets' or google-applets (i forget the exact name)
[18:55] <Dr_Willis> Dracofodder:  flash is a problem. :)  it can be quirky depending on video card/driveers/kernel version/phase of the moon.
[18:56] <xso> does anyone know a way to prevent my mouse from getting "Lost in the abyss" between my monitors lol...  When I move my mouse to the other monitor since its a different resolution it seems to go into a "Void" area which is fine, just wondering if I could lock the mouse to within the resolution parameters
[18:57] <porter1> xso, do you have a nvidia card?
[18:57] <Guest40636> hi! i have a problems i dont have sounds with this sounds card "82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller"  i have to change some line in alsa-base.conf but i cannot edit the files cause of permission someone can tell me how to unlock the files im newbs and french
[18:57] <xso> yea I do
[18:57] <BeGeMoT>  3115 root      20   0  413m  80m  28m R   80  2.9  17:24.15 Xorg
[18:57] <siwon> ty any other suggestions?
[18:57] <BeGeMoT>  4062 begemot   20   0  280m  53m  21m S   14  1.9   2:47.84 vlc
[18:57] <BeGeMoT> it's make me crazy....
[18:57] <xso> Porter: yea I do sorry
[18:57] <Dr_Willis> xso:  not that ive noticed. But i rarely lose the thing :) i do have 2 differnt res monitors also.
[18:57] <porter1> in the nvidia settings area, you can set the offset of the other monitor so that it is closer
[18:57] <tyler_d1> recommended firewall?
[18:57] <Dracofodder> Dr_Willis:  should I go looking for some sort of flash "tuning"  or am I just stuck?   driers and kernel are whatever is in the channel for ubuntu 9.04, I used an nvidia 5950 I had laying about, and installed their ver 172 driver..  Maxed out the ram onthis machine too (not much, it is old hardware.. but it is maced)
[18:58] <xso> Porter: its not like it gets lost its just annoying at times thats all.. I've set my monitor to the same resolution just to avoid the problem
[18:58] <Dr_Willis> Dracofodder:  trouble shooting problamtic flash can be a pain. Not sure to where even BEGIN to start.  check the forums perhaps for that exact video card may be a start
[18:58] <porter1> xso, in the display config area, one of the monitors can be set to overlap
[18:59] <Dracofodder> Dr_Willis: sorry, nvidia driver 173.14.16   just checked.
[18:59] <Guest40636> hi! i have a problems i dont have sounds with this sounds card "82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller"  i have to change some line in alsa-base.conf but i cannot edit the files cause of permission someone can tell me how to unlock the files im newbs and french
[18:59] <xso> oh wow thanks man, thats been bothering me for years
[18:59] <xso> lol
[18:59] <Hajuu> is there something around that will allow me to run a program as another user, given that users username and the users password, from command line?
[18:59] <Dracofodder> Dr_Willis: ok, thanks, will do that.  this irc has been a huge help in the past so I figured I'd start my quest here.
[18:59] <Dr_Willis> Hajuu:  ive used, su, and sux, to do that in the past.
[18:59] <halberd> I have installed graphviz with apt-get.  Where might its example scripts be located?
[18:59] <Dr_Willis> !info sux
[19:00] <Hajuu> I want to 100% require users are logged in to run a binary, and if they hack their way around it, I want the app to still have to run as that user
[19:00] <Joeseph> I'm about to install Fedora 11 on my slave HD.  Is it okay if Fedora shares the same home partition and the same Swap partition as my ubuntu install?
[19:00] <Hajuu> ill check out sux
[19:00] <Hajuu> cheers
[19:00] <carpii> Joeseph, id say its a bad idea really
[19:01] <Dr_Willis> Hajuu:  your reasoning/logic/demands are not clear on what you are doing exactly. :)
[19:01] <Joeseph> carpii: How come?
[19:01] <Dr_Willis> Joeseph:  very much NOT a good idea.
[19:01] <carpii> well maybe swap wont be an issue, i dont know
[19:01] <Dr_Willis> Joeseph:  owndership of files will be different btween the 2 disrtos.
[19:01] <Joeseph> Can you explain why?
[19:01] <Hajuu> Dr_Willis: 10 years in web application development would beg to differ :P
[19:01] <NetLarIrvine> Can you do a live CD to check if a computer system will work when unbuntu is installed??
[19:01] <porter1> Joeseph, because the two will be confused with some of the data
[19:01] <carpii> well what if fedora writes some config files, ina  way that isnt compatible with the software on ubuntu ?
[19:02] <NetLarIrvine> I mean like at a computer store??
[19:02] <Dr_Willis> Joeseph:  the initial user id on ubuntu starts at 1000, on redhat/variants its 500 (i think)
[19:02] <Dr_Willis> Joeseph:  so your home users files will show as owned by someone else when the other disrto runs.
[19:03] <Soopa> Hi everyone, I've been looking for an OSS document repository but haven't been able to find one.. anyone have any suggestions?  I currently use Drupal, but all I need it to do is manage a bunch of binary files and documents
[19:03] <Dr_Willis> Hajuu:  your experience means that you eexplinattion was clear? :) i dident think so.. but whatever.. have fun with 'sux'  theres proberly other ways to do what you want also. this is Linux after all.
[19:03] <Soopa> Drupal doesn't have a doc check out/check in feature, which I'd like to have
[19:03] <NetLarIrvine> That way I could test if a system will work first
[19:04] <siwon> any suggestions on a osx type of bar for ubuntu?
[19:04] <Hajuu> Dr_Willis: Well, that is the question in the first place, is it not?
[19:04] <Guest61872> hi! i have a problems i dont have sounds with this sounds card "82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller"  i have to change some line in alsa-base.conf but i cannot edit the files cause of permission someone can tell me how to unlock the files im newbs and french
[19:04] <Soopa> siwon: I use Gnome-Do
[19:04] <Dr_Willis> siwon:  most of them ive seen/tried/played with suck. :)
[19:04] <Joeseph> Dr_Willis: That makes sense.  Is there an easy way around this?   Say I made a symbolic link instead of mounting it as home or something?
[19:04] <Flannel> !awn | siwon
[19:04] <Hajuu> Dr_Willis: Or should I not look into sux in exchange for the no help you've offered?
[19:04] <halberd> in os x there is a command (from the terminal) called "open" which tries to guess the filetype, then selects the appropriate program to open with
[19:04] <Hajuu> :P
[19:04] <halberd> is there a similar program on ubuntu?
[19:04] <nightdrever> any good chess training software
[19:05] <siwon> TY
[19:05] <lucas_tiburcio> opa, posso perguntar sobre windows aqui?
[19:05] <Dr_Willis> Joeseph:  no idea. Ive seen it mentione4d in for  in forums about shareing homes with diffrent disrtos. You can even have a similer issue with the same disrtos if the users 'ids' are not identical.
[19:05] <halberd> so like, "open foo.png" would open a graphical preview application, and "open foo.htm" would open firefox
[19:05] <cognitiaclaeves> anyone have a link for installing a very basic dev environment on ubuntu via terminal?
[19:05] <lucas_tiburcio> alguem sabe se no windows existe um arquivo de configuração de rede como no linux?
[19:05] <Dr_Willis> !build-essential
[19:05] <lucas_tiburcio> alguem sabe se no windows existe um arquivo de configuração de rede como no linux?
[19:05] <lucas_tiburcio> alguem sabe se no windows existe um arquivo de configuração de rede como no linux?
[19:05] <lucas_tiburcio> alguem sabe se no windows existe um arquivo de configuração de rede como no linux?
[19:06] <Flannel> halberd: There is.  I just can't remember what the command is.
[19:06] <Dr_Willis> cognitiaclaeves:  install the build-essential package
[19:06] <FloodBot3> lucas_tiburcio: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:06] <Pici> !br | lucas_tiburcio
[19:06] <cognitiaclaeves>    ah, yes.  That's the one.  Thanks!
[19:06] <lucas_tiburcio> thanks ubottu
[19:06] <Flannel> halberd: gnome-open
[19:06] <Joeseph> Dr_Willis: Alright.  For now then, I guess I won't have the same home folder, but I'll share the swap, that's not bad; right?
[19:06] <Flannel> halberd: http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/12/16/gnome-open-open-anything-from-the-command-line/
[19:07] <Dr_Willis> Joeseph:  as long as you dont try hibernate/suspend (those can use the swap) it should work.
[19:07] <Orest> is there anyway to extract *.zipx files on ubuntu?
[19:07] <halberd> great Flannel , slight problem is I use kde... maybe I better ask in kubuntu
[19:07] <Dr_Willis> Orest:  sure its not a missnamed .zip file? ive neverheard of .zipx  in mymany years of windows ussage
[19:08] <Joeseph> Dr_Willis: Yeah, that makes sense.   If I hibernate into the swap, then instead boot the other distro, I can see how that would be a problem.
[19:08] <Orest> Dr_Willis: neither have I, but it seems it's a new format WinZip came up with
[19:09] <Orest> I googled it and there are some articles how it's the next best thing since sliced bread etc... but of course no linux support
[19:09] <Dr_Willis> Orest:  actually a google hit says its an OLD format... :)
[19:09] <Dr_Willis> Orest:
[19:09] <Dr_Willis> ZipX is a file extension that will be used for a forthcoming archive file format. StuffIt 8.5 will add recognition for files with this extension. They expect release in Sept 2003.
[19:09] <krzd> hi, i just bouhgt a delock raid controller but ubuntu doesn'T recognizes the hdds
[19:09] <Orest> that is indeed old
[19:09] <Dr_Willis> Orest:  when in doubt try wine and whatever windows app  handles it.
[19:09] <Flannel> halberd: Looks like there's kde-open as well.
[19:10] <Orest> Dr_Willis: I guess that's my best bet, thanks anyway
[19:10] <Joeseph> Alright, one last question then...  Should I let it install grub if it asks? Will it recognize my ubuntu install?
[19:10] <Guest61872> hi! i have a problems i dont have sounds with this sounds card "82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller"  i have to change some line in alsa-base.conf but i cannot edit the files cause of permission someone can tell me how to unlock the files im newbs and french
[19:11] <fihan> hi
[19:11] <Dr_Willis> Orest:  gotta love 'new' file extensions the same as old ones.. with totally diffferent tools...
[19:11] <Dr_Willis> Orest:  http://www.winzip.com/xzipx.htm
[19:11] <Dr_Willis> Joeseph:  you will need to pick one distro to handle the boot loader. and most likelyneed to manuyally edit the menu.lst to allow booting either OS. (unless the installers are REAALLY smart)
[19:12] <fihan> Guest61872: sudo nano alsa-base.conf
[19:12] <Joeseph> Dr_Willis: Alright.  Thanks.
[19:12] <Orest> Dr_Willis: I know, it's probably just a marketing thing on winzips part. Why can't we all use tar.gz :)
[19:12] <Dr_Willis> Orest:  i perfer multi part rar archives, zipped together .......
[19:12] <Dr_Willis> :)
[19:13] <Orest> Dr_Willis: I actually heard that 7z gives best compression ratio... but oh well, delving into off topic here. I've got zipx files to extract.
[19:14] <CMarx> %u262D
[19:14] <ongolaBoy> hi.on MoinMoin can i use the macros RecentChange + FullSearch(specific pages) together ?
[19:14] <NetLarIrvine> So does anyone think that would work?, Using Live CD to check if a system is compatible?
[19:14] <ActionParsnip> Orest: considering the availability of high volume storage, i cant see a few mb here or there being a massive issue
[19:15] <Flannel> ongolaBoy: #ubuntu-offtopic, or #ubuntu-doc, this isn't really an appropriate place for that question
[19:15] <ongolaBoy> Flannel: ok
[19:15] <fosco__> NetLarIrvine, that is the main purpose of the liveCD
[19:15] <ActionParsnip> NetLarIrvine: sure, if it works in the live cd it will work in the installed system. You can even install drivers for hardware in nthe live cd, it will live in the ram disk
[19:16] <NetLarIrvine> So a live CD run will not prove the system will be compatible for installing Ubuntu?
[19:17] <NetLarIrvine> oh sorry
[19:17] <NetLarIrvine> did not read you correctly
[19:17] <NetLarIrvine> Great thanks
[19:17] <PWilder> Hey guys, trying to install AWN Desktop manager and have run into a small problem
[19:18] <PWilder> Apparently I don't have the required repositories to get the things needed to build it,
[19:18] <fosco__> PWilder, sudo aptitude install avant-window-navigator
[19:18] <fosco__> that's all you need
[19:19] <ActionParsnip> !info avant-window-navigator
[19:19] <PWilder> I know what it is.
[19:19] <PWilder> I already downloaded it.
[19:19] <ActionParsnip> PWilder: make sure you have universe repositorys enabled
[19:19] <ActionParsnip> PWilder: are you running compiz?
[19:19] <PWilder> I dont know.
[19:19] <PWilder> I thought that Intrepid came with it already.
[19:20] <ActionParsnip> PWilder: wobbly windows? maximise efects? cube desktop?
[19:20] <PWilder> Yeap
[19:20] <PWilder> all that.
[19:20] <PWilder> I do I do!
[19:20] <ActionParsnip> PWilder: ok then launch AWN from the terminal and pastebin the output
[19:20] <ActionParsnip> !pastge
[19:20] <ActionParsnip> !paste
[19:20] <PWilder> installing right now actually.
[19:20] <PWilder> I also know about pasating
[19:21] <PWilder> It worked it worked!
[19:21] <PWilder> thanks guys
[19:21] <ActionParsnip> PWilder: run the command, then copy and paste the output to the pastebin, once you click paste, give us the address of the new page you go to
[19:22] <ActionParsnip> oh, cool
[19:22] <ActionParsnip> :)
[19:22] <PWilder> Oh pooh, that's the v0.1
[19:22] <ActionParsnip> ??
[19:22] <halberd> How does sudo find programs?
[19:22] <halberd> it doesn't seem to use $PATH
[19:22] <ActionParsnip> halberd: sudo doesnt find programs
[19:23] <halberd> what does it do ActionParsnip then? how does it decide?
[19:23] <halberd> by "find programs" I mean, determine that e.g. emacs is located in /usr/bin/emacs
[19:23] <ActionParsnip> halberd: sudo allows you to execute cli based apps with elevated priveledges provided you are in the admin group
[19:23] <halberd> how does it do that?
[19:24] <Hajuu> Yay
[19:24] <Hajuu> Going to use expect
[19:24] <ActionParsnip> halberd: its what sudo is for, I have no idea how it does it and as a user I'm not bothered
[19:24] <Hajuu> thanks for your help frostburn, Dr_Willis
[19:24] <Hajuu> :P
[19:25] <ActionParsnip> halberd: the $PATH will be used for the name autocomplete to work for the command you type after sudo
[19:25] <unop> halberd, it uses a new version of $PATH - as defined in /etc/profile (i believe).   e.g.  sudo sh -c 'echo $PATH'
[19:25] <fretegi> hello all
[19:25] <ActionParsnip> halberd: if you use the 'which' command it will tell you what will be ran when you type the command
[19:25] <fretegi> ok got a problem
[19:25] <fretegi> trying to uninstall wine and EVERYTHING to do with it
[19:25] <ActionParsnip> !ask | fretegi
[19:25] <fretegi> wanna just blow the whole directory
[19:25] <unop> ActionParsnip, except which could give you different results for different users
[19:25] <geirha> halberd: You can see what PATH sudo uses with: sudo env
[19:25] <fretegi> but it wont lemme mw
[19:26] <fretegi> any thoughts?
[19:26] <fosco__> fretegi, rm -rf ~/.wine, that will delete all wine for your user
[19:26] <ActionParsnip> unop: well the command is executed as the curent user so i not incorrect, but you are correct
[19:27] <fretegi> nada
[19:27] <fretegi> just tried
[19:27] <ActionParsnip> fretegi: sudo apt-get --purge remove wine; sudo apt-get --purge autoremove
[19:27] <unop> ActionParsnip, no, the command is executed by the user specified by sudo (root by default)  :)
[19:27] <ActionParsnip> fretegi: will uninstall all of wine and its dependancys
[19:28] <fretegi> still have it in applications tab
[19:28] <fretegi> ubuntu 8.1 64 bit
[19:29] <savid> Does anyone remember the name of that program that allows you to use your mouse and keyboard across two computers?
[19:29] <geirha> fretegi: look in ~/.local/share/applications , the menu entries are stored there as .desktop-files
[19:30] <fosco__> fretegi, this is not wine, it is only a menu access, use alacarte to delete it
[19:30] <needles> hello
[19:30] <needles> hi
[19:30] <needles> what can i do here
[19:30] <fosco__> needles, ask your ubuntu questions
[19:31] <needles> ok
[19:31] <needles> what can i ask
[19:31] <savid> oh nm.. it's synergy
[19:31] <needles> hello
[19:31] <needles> can you help me ?
[19:31] <halberd> somehow /users/me/python got into my sudo path, how did that happen?
[19:31] <halberd> because that's in my regular path
[19:31] <fosco__> needles, just ask your question
[19:32] <halberd> and I specify it in .bashrc
[19:32] <rameshwo> needless - ask if u have any problems with u untu..
[19:33] <lesshaste> how would I reinstall gnome network manager and remove any old wireless networking setup?
[19:33] <lesshaste> basically set things back to the default
[19:34] <unop> halberd, how are you checking the 'sudo' path?
[19:35] <diffred> hi! I have no sound in ubuntu 9.04, I have a sound blaster external with USB. Autodetect in sound doesn't play any test sound. I've checked all volume control and anything is mute. Anyone can help me?
[19:35] <kaw> I' been pxe boot with a GX280 various keyboards and mice and it seems it always stops there.  What to there.  on 9.04
[19:37] <Neremor> hello!
[19:37] <Neremor> where can i find voices for festival and how do i install them?
[19:39] <elli222> Hello, Suspend wants to remount my root filesystem Read only. This has massive side effects...
[19:40] <elli222> Such as generic system instability, inability to load X or view manpages...
[19:41] <Xpistos|work> Hey fellas , Let me ask a newb question. I am trying to simplify my ubuntu install (VLC, Scibbus, Medibuntu etc) but when I try to add the Medibuntu repo it says connecting but then does nothing
[19:41] <elli222> How are you trying to "add" the medibuntu repo?
[19:41] <geirha> lesshaste: in gconf-editor, browse to /system/networking/wireless ... is that the information you want to remove?
[19:41] <Xpistos|work>  I am trying to follow the https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu instructions but it says  "HTTP request sent, awaiting response..." Any ideas?
[19:42] <keres> how do you check your video memory in ubuntu?
[19:42] <sascha_> tm
[19:42] <JuJuBee> how do I list all files/folders that start with a .  at command line?
[19:42] <geirha> JuJuBee: ls -ld .
[19:42] <SMP_ca> hi, do you know the command that I have to type to modify interactively the "xorg.conf" file?
[19:42] <Orange_v_Blue> Question grown out of curiousity: I would like to have some kind of monitor for my internet usage, but it does not have to be real time. I want it to keep logs, so I can compare days. But I also need to be able to log different networks separately (the wireless at my house is not on the internet, just local, but at school the wireless is connected, and at work it is a wired connection). Any ideas, I'm having a hard time finding someth
[19:43] <geirha> JuJuBee: err, sorry, ls -ld .*  or ls -d .*
[19:43] <dr_tunes> #kompare
[19:44] <Orange_v_Blue> Oh yes, and this is all just for the one laptop I use.
[19:45] <Viper550> Okay, I got a potential noob next door, should I get 8.04 or the latest?
[19:45] <fosco__> Viper550, in my opinion you'd better try 9.04
[19:46] <SMP_ca> do you know the command that modifies interactively the "xorg.conf" configuration?
[19:46] <whatvn> 2045 root      20   0  4676 1736  752 R   96  0.1  73:46.53 mount.ntfs-3g
[19:46] <fosco__> SMP_ca, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[19:46] <whatvn> ntfs-3g eats 96% my cpu
[19:46] <whatvn> :(
[19:46] <SMP_ca> mmmm
[19:47] <SMP_ca> ok thanks
[19:49] <Orange_v_Blue> I would like to have some kind of monitor for my personal internet usage, but it does not have to be real time. I want it to keep logs, so I can compare days. But I also want to be able to log different networks separately (two wireless and a wired). Any ideas, I'm having a hard time finding something like this. and ideas?
[19:49] <idril_> bonsoir
[19:50] <geirha> !fr | idril_
[19:50] <ltcabral> hey someone help me... i lost administration rights in my login...
[19:50] <npope> ltcabral: no more sudo ?
[19:50] <ltcabral> npope: no :(
[19:51] <npope> ltcabral: log into a terminal as root and edit visudo
[19:51] <ltcabral> npope: thanks
[19:51] <geirha> ltcabral: Have you changed group memberships lately?
[19:51] <ltcabral> geirha: ya i think i did something stupid...
[19:52] <deany> is there something faster than recordmydesktop when recording a compiz enabled desktop?  its pretty awful.  P4-1gig ram and radeon 9800.
[19:52] <elli222> Hello, resuming after a suspend remounts my root filesystem Read only. This has massive side effects...
[19:53] <elli222> is there any fix for it?
[19:53] <geirha> ltcabral: Users in the "admin" group are the ones that have access to use sudo. If your user is no longer in that group, you'll need to reboot into recovery mode and run "adduser yourusername admin" to add yourusername to the admin group
[19:53] <elli222> (i have a feeling this is why hibernate dosent work, either)
[19:55] <Orange_v_Blue> elli222: just shut down? I have a similar problem, in that when i suspend, I basically have to restart anyway, so I usually just shut down, and then restart. It's a quick enough restart that I don't really mind. less helpful, I know, but it works
[19:55] <An> holaz
[19:55] <chase__> how do i get php4 on unbuntu?
[19:56] <Symmetria> hrm
[19:56] <Symmetria> anyone here got any hints on how I can profile whats bottlenecking my webserver
[19:56] <Quacktop> hmm, i inserted a new network card in my ubuntu server and connected the internet, light on the back works, but doesn't show up in the ifconfig
[19:56] <JuJuBee> geirha: thanks.  Now, how would I go about rm 'ing everything that started with a . in a users home dir?  I want to be certain before I do it.
[19:56] <Symmetria> I'm pushing between 1 and 1.1gigabit but it doesnt seem to wanna rise any higher
[19:56] <Symmetria> and I have bandwidth available, and the box load average is still low
[19:56] <Symmetria> and there is ram etc available and iostat is negligable
[19:57] <elli222> rm -rf ./.*? (i think somthing is wrong with that...)
[19:57] <chase__> have correct drivers?
[19:57] <carpii> elli, depends what youre trying to do
[19:57] <geirha> elli222: That'll delete the whole homefolder
[19:57] <carpii> well, itll delete everything in the directory youre currently in
[19:57] <idril_> hi
[19:58] <qr> JuJuBee: you can do something like 'find . -name .*' ... play around with that until it lists the files you want to kill and then pipe it into xargs rm -rf
[19:58] <carpii> probably better not to use rm -r if youre getting results from find anyway
[19:58] <geirha> JuJuBee: I believe "rm .[^.]*" should do it, add a -r to also remove directories.
[19:58] <unop> qr, you must quote .* there otherwise the shell will expand the glob
[19:58] <carpii> just rm -f
[19:58] <JuJuBee> Or I could simply move evrything not starting with a . to a new folder outside and then remove the users folder...
[19:59] <chase__> anybody know how i can get php4 on 9.04?
[19:59] <geirha> JuJuBee: Yes, that would be safer. mv .[^.]* /some/other/dir
[19:59] <idril_> I need some help with the nvidia driver 185 on ubuntu  please
[19:59] <carpii> case, compile it maybe?  why would you want v4 ?
[20:00] <chase__> well this program (e-commerce store designer) that I want runs on v4
[20:00] <unop> geirha,  it turns out that rm doesn't delete . and .. in the newer coreutils
[20:00] <Quacktop> anyone?
[20:00] <carpii> and wont run on v5 ?
[20:00] <chase__> idk, but I would rather run it on v4 as apposed to having to mess with incapatabliltiys
[20:01] <elli222> Hello, resuming after a suspend remounts my root filesystem Read only. How can i fix this?
[20:01] <JuJuBee> geirha:  mv: cannot stat `.[^.]*': No such file or directory
[20:01] <geirha> unop: Ah, that's good to know
[20:01] <unop> JuJuBee,  shopt -s nullglob  # first
[20:01] <qr> JuJuBee: find . -maxdepth 1 -mindepth 1 -name '.*' | xargs whateveryouwanttodo
[20:02] <geirha> elli222: Then your command wasn't dangerous after all. Sorry :)
[20:02] <geirha> JuJuBee: What shell are you using?
[20:02] <unop> qr,  err, that could be disastrous without  find .. -print0 and xargs -0
[20:02] <JuJuBee> geirha: bash
[20:02] <JuJuBee> ls
[20:02] <maitrebn> Hi, I'm fighting with sound on the 9.04 ... is someone for some advice ...
[20:03] <CleanLaundry> !pastebin
[20:03] <geirha> JuJuBee: The message means there are no hidden files or folders in the current directory
[20:03] <JuJuBee> geirha: Ok
[20:04] <Dr_Willis> anyone else notice that  www.medibuntu.org  is down?
[20:04] <geirha> JuJuBee: Does ls -d .* show anything other than . and .. ?
[20:04] <unop> Dr_Willis, yes, it seems to be down
[20:04] <JuJuBee> it does...
[20:04] <arooni-mobile> i have bluetooth s9 headphones that i got working with alsa using this .asoundrc file: http://pastebin.com/f73885617 (credit http://wiki.bluez.org/wiki/HOWTO/AudioDevices) ... but now when i try to load up skype i see: ALSA lib pcm_bluetooth.c:1563:(audioservice_expect) BT_GET_CAPABILITIES failed : Input/output error(5).... how can i get skype to ignore bluetooth audio for the moment being
[20:04] <JuJuBee> I think I have a solution that woks let me test it...
[20:05] <Dr_Willis> unop:  bummer. :()
[20:05] <Dr_Willis> unop:  thanks for the info. its down when i need somthing.. heh.
[20:06] <unop> Dr_Willis, I wonder if the site is mirrored ..
[20:06] <cody> hi
[20:07] <cody> hi
[20:07] <geirha> !hi | cody
[20:07] <Dr_Willis> unop:  perhaps - I just gotta convert some videos so need their ffmpeg version with the extra features. ill do it on the other box for now. :) converting video to cell phone format for the kids. heh
[20:07] <unop> Dr_Willis, :)  ftp://ftp.leg.uct.ac.za/pub/linux/medibuntu/
[20:08] <dansku2> how do i restart a program running on a user? rtorrent
[20:09] <deany> the ffmpeg in the repos works fine for making 3gp/mp4
[20:09] <ringo999> i'm looking for an application to mix/cut mp3s into one piece, any recommendations?
[20:09] <deany> theres also winff for a gui
[20:09] <billybigrigger> deany::: it sure does
[20:10] <swoody> Can anyone help me out? When I try to copy CD's to my computer, some actually spin up my CD-ROM all the way, but other's are really slow, and only spin it up a little bit? Is there any way to change this?
[20:10] <swoody> it seems pretty random**
[20:11] <dansku2> how do i restart a program running on a user? rtorrent
[20:12] <bc316> does the ipv6 autoconfigure work on jaunty?
[20:13] <mikeg3> Hi.  How do I test my webcam / get drivers for a logitech quickcam 9000 pro in ubuntu?
[20:13] <jussi01> !webcam | mikeg3
[20:13] <scott_ino__> mikeg3: you can use several applications including Cheese, Ekiga
[20:14] <Dr_Willis> unop:  yea. I noticed the site was down.. but the ftp site isent. :) so i can still install.. heh.  time to get to work - thanks
[20:14] <scott_ino__> mikeg3: Many logitech webcams now work thanks to the linux UVC driver, so open up a program like ekiga and test it out first, if not, guarentee we can get yoru webcam working
[20:15] <scott_ino__> mikeg3: take a look here as well: http://www.quickcamteam.net/devices
[20:15] <david__> hi
[20:16] <david__> I need help installing an nvidia driver it is a .run file I am using Ubuntu 9.04
[20:17] <funkycat90210> i upgraded to the latest ubuntu and my end key no long works and this: xmodmap -e "keycode 115 = Multi_key" no longer works. Anyone know why?
[20:18] <cody_> hi
[20:18] <scott_ino__> david__:  do you have a specific reason why you aren't just using the nvidia drivers from synaptic?
[20:18] <chiques> When I watch a youtube video and I click on full screen, firefox simply closes (I think crashes) anybody else encountered this?
[20:18] <david__> yeah I want to use dual monitor's and the one that came with wouldnt activate my second monitor
[20:19] <billybigrigger> chiques::: 32bit or 64bit?
[20:19] <scott_ino__> david__: well currently do you have it setup to use the proprietary graphics driver? or the NV driver?
[20:19] <chiques> billybigrigger, 32 bit
[20:19] <scott_ino__> as usually nvidia is pretty good about allowing second monitors
[20:19] <david__> and now my second monitor isnt even showing up anymore
[20:19] <lesshaste> how do you install the gnome network manager?
[20:19] <billybigrigger> chiques::: i have that problem in 64bit
[20:19] <david__> I dotn know what ever is default by installing
[20:20] <lesshaste> or whatever is the easiest way to get wireless working
[20:20] <billybigrigger> chiques::: blame ADOBE not canonical or ubuntu
[20:20] <cody_> cody
[20:20] <billybigrigger> lesshaste::: NM should already be installed
[20:20] <chiques> billybigrigger, Is it the flash plug in that might be crapping out?
[20:20] <scott_ino__> david__: try this first, go to System/Administration/Hardware drivers and see if it lists an Nvidia driver
[20:20] <lesshaste> billybigrigger: it was removed
[20:20] <lesshaste> billybigrigger: how do I reinstall it?
[20:20] <billybigrigger> chiques::: ya its the plugin
[20:20] <cody_> yo hi do you guys know anything about sarch linux
[20:21] <chiques> billybigrigger, OK, well I see if there is anything on the net about it. Thanks
[20:21] <cody_> arch linux
[20:21] <andruk> does the intel gma950 support 1680x1050 ?
[20:21] <billybigrigger> lesshaste::: kde or gnome?
[20:21] <billybigrigger> chiques::: np
[20:21] <lesshaste> gnome
[20:21] <lesshaste> billybigrigger: it's network-manager-gnome
[20:21] <billybigrigger> lesshaste::: yeah
[20:21] <billybigrigger> lesshaste::: exactly
[20:21] <cody_> no i mean does anyone here know about arch linux
[20:21] <billybigrigger> lesshaste::: install that
[20:21] <cody_> arch
[20:21] <cody_> judd vinet
[20:22] <cody_> arch
[20:22] <cody_> any archers here
[20:23] <fireslayer26> I'm trying to get info from my modem and I was told to load a file from ram.... how do I do that
[20:24] <cody_> you fdo you gus kn ow about arch
[20:24] <cody_> arch linux
[20:24] <billybigrigger> cody_::: this isn't the place to ask
[20:25] <cody_> you guys know anythinhg about it
[20:25] <cody_> where do i ask
[20:25] <andruk> cody_: try #arch
[20:25] <billybigrigger> why don't you check their website/forums/irc channel
[20:25] <cody_> im lokking for za arch delvoper in chichagio ilnnios
[20:25] <legend2440> cody_: channel   #archlinux
[20:25] <andruk> cody_: and why would they be on a ubuntu channel?
[20:25] <cody_> ok
[20:25] <cody_> thanks
[20:25] <maitrebn> any directions for a sound pb ? I've already checked the doc ...
[20:26] <funkycat90210> nvm, the key code for my escape char is now 133, dunno why that changed, maybe 'cause i messed w/ the xorg.conf and use another keyboard
[20:26] <cody_> Please register with services and use the IDENTIFY command (/msg nickserv help) to speak in this channel
[20:26] <cody_> thats what it says on the arch chanel
[20:26] <billybigrigger> well do what nickserv says
[20:26] <cody_> how do i regstier
[20:26] <billybigrigger> read
[20:26] <cody_> im new to irc
[20:26] <fretegi> got a wuestion about wine
[20:26] <fretegi> question*
[20:27] <mneptok> cody_: please ask such questions in #freenode
[20:27] <cody_> how do i register
[20:27] <billybigrigger> (/msg nickserv help)
[20:27] <billybigrigger> read
[20:27] <cody_> ok
[20:27] <mneptok> cody_: #ubuntu is not a general IRC support channel.
[20:27] <billybigrigger> its pretty simple stuff
[20:27] <billybigrigger> now quit asking
[20:27] <FloodBot3> billybigrigger: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:27] <fireslayer26> andyone know how to load a file from RAM?
[20:27] <andruk> cody_: this is not the proper channel to discuss irc errata.  see here: http://www.ircbeginner.com/ircinfo/ircc-commands.html
[20:27] <mneptok> billybigrigger: be nice.
[20:27] <david__> ok I am back
[20:27] <chris__> wow
[20:28] <mikeg3> How do I launch cheese?
[20:28] <andruk> cody_: try #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:28] <fretegi> i have ubuntu 8.10 64 bit, when i add the appropriate line in "software sources", the appropriate key and "reload", do i then still hafta DL the winehq program through add/remove programs
[20:28] <ARMENIAN> how do you find a phone's bdaddress?
[20:28] <andruk> mikeg3: Applications > Graphics > Cheese
[20:28] <wolfgang> whats the best cli mail client?
[20:28] <mneptok> wolfgang: i like Mutt
[20:28] <nick__> hi folks, im having an issue with my wireless. uninstalled the drivers by accident and nowcant reinstall them anyone experienced somthing like this before?
[20:29] <mikeg3> thx andruk, scott_ino
[20:29] <fretegi> anyone know?
[20:29] <nick2paris> hey
[20:29] <nick2paris> what is the best torrent app for ubuntu?
[20:29] <nascentmind> Hi bugzilla tells to do /usr/bin/perl install-module.pl --all but i am not able to find install-module file. where can i download it?
[20:29] <andruk> fretegi: yes, you still have to install it with add/remove or synaptic
[20:29] <fretegi> stupid question im sure, but im very new to ubuntu, very very proficient in windows and computers in general, just still not clear on the software isntallation processes for ubuntu
[20:29] <cody_> eceived a CTCP VERSION from freenode-connect
[20:29] <cody_> -NickServ- <codyconlon@gmail.com> is not a valid email address.
[20:30] <wolfgang> mneptok, i have been messing with that myself, i like it but i can't get it show the timestamp on incoming mail
[20:30] <damian> el canal en español por favor?
[20:30] <nick2paris> what is the best torrent app for ubuntu?
[20:30] <cody_> guys help me please how do i regiser
[20:30] <durt> !best > nick2paris
[20:30] <cody_> guys
[20:30] <cody_> i need help
[20:30] <durt> cody_, ask on #freenode
[20:30] <andruk> nick2paris: ktorrent is decent, transmission is alright, deluge is slow (thats python for yeh), and vuze is too slow for my taste (thats a bloated java program for you)
[20:30] <Dethroned> how do I install flashplayer for firefox?
[20:30] <cody_> i got to find a arch linux delvoper
[20:30] <damian> hola por favor ayuda
[20:31] <fretegi> go to adobe's site dethroned
[20:31] <cody_> arch
[20:31] <nick2paris> so ktorrent is good, but i have gnome
[20:31] <nick2paris> it is not a problem?
[20:31] <mneptok> wolfgang: your .muttrc configures that
[20:31] <nascentmind> anybody?
[20:31] <phoenixz> I need to ajust brigtness, contrast and gamma of a picture.. What EASY (not the gimp please) program can do this for me?
[20:31] <funkycat90210> xmodmap -e "keycode 115 = End" and i have my end key again
[20:31]  * funkycat90210 celebrates
[20:31] <Dethroned> fretegi:  it comes up with a couple of linux options...which one do I choose?
[20:31] <Orange_v_Blue> nick2paris: I have Transmission for a client, came with ubuntu
[20:31] <andruk> nick2paris: it will install the necessary dependencies automatically, but it will take up some disk space
[20:31] <durt> !es | damian
[20:31] <mneptok> wolfgang: make sure "date" is in your "unignore" line
[20:31] <Orange_v_Blue> nick2paris: works great for me, i guess
[20:31] <swoody> Can anyone help me out? When I try to copy CD's to my computer, some actually spin up my CD-ROM all the way, but other's are really slow, and only spin it up a little bit? Is there any way to change this?
[20:31] <nick2paris> thx u :)
[20:32] <nick__> im getting an err2 when i do a sudo make for ipw drivers and an error when i try an install ieee802.1.1 sub network.........its kinda beyond me any ideas?
[20:32] <mneptok> Dethroned: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[20:32] <mneptok> Dethroned: that is the *only* supported way to install it
[20:32] <Jiba_> Hello guys
[20:32] <andruk> swoody: try cleaning your cds, that sometimes happens when mine get dirty
[20:32] <Dethroned> mneptok: I tried that...it couldn't find flashplugin-nonfree
[20:32] <mneptok> Dethroned: use apt whenever possible. this is not Windows. you don;t install stuff via web sites.
[20:32] <swoody> andruk:  well CD's are brand new :(
[20:33] <fretegi> anyone proficient with wine?
[20:33] <mneptok> Dethroned: use Synaptic to enable the restricted repositories. then refresh the package list.
[20:33] <rupert> Hey, I'm ripping a CD with cdparanoia and want the ripped files to be outputted to a particular directory. There don't seem to be any options listen in the man file to do this. Anyone know how to do this?
[20:33] <Jiba_> Hey guys... i got one problem. I can get to screen where it asks if i want to try ubuntu or install it... when i press whatever option i get blinking cursor to Upper left corner and it wont move a bit... what should i do since i want to start using ubuntu again
[20:33] <cody_> hi
[20:33] <cody_> guys
[20:34] <cody_> can you help me
[20:34] <Soopa> how do i install updates from the command line?
[20:34] <cody_> regestier for a irc chanell
[20:34] <mneptok> cody_: please ask such questions in #freenode
[20:34] <cody_> i knew to irc
[20:34] <mneptok> cody_: this is the last time i tell you
[20:34] <ARMENIAN> how do you find a phone's bdaddress?
[20:34] <effie_jayx> It seems I have an issue with my hardy box. dpkg has stopped working due to a postinst problem
[20:34] <cody_> i know Neo_The_User
[20:34] <rish> guys, got problem with jaunty on dell studio
[20:34] <rish> can u help?
[20:34] <cody_> you know him
[20:35] <Jiba_> Is there anyone online who would be willing to help me with my problem of booting and installing ubuntu 9.04?
[20:35] <effie_jayx> aparrently it has to do with perl
[20:35] <LinKDeaD> Hi, I am wanting to get more involved in the ubuntu community.  I have an avid interest in computers, and I have been loving Linux.  I would like to get involved in programming and was wondering if anyone knew of any free online books covering it.
[20:35] <Dethroned> mneptok: how do I enable restricted repositories?
[20:35] <wolfgang> mneptok, got it, fixed it
[20:35] <rish> yess Jiba, tell me
[20:35] <phoenixz> Anyone who might know a program to ajust brightness, etc of photos?
[20:35] <wolfgang> mneptok, thanks
[20:35] <cody_> Neo_The_User
[20:35] <mneptok> cody_: one more question not directly related to Ubuntu and you will be banned.
[20:35] <mneptok> wolfgang: np
[20:35] <cody_> ok
[20:35] <rupert> anyone?
[20:35] <cody_> you cant ban me
[20:35] <cody_> im new
[20:36] <cody_> and im not even registred yet
[20:36] <nick__> Anyone good installing drivers etc?
[20:36] <effie_jayx> the error reads "Can't locate strict.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.8.8 /usr/local/share/perl/5.8.8
[20:36] <durt> uh oh
[20:36] <billybigrigger> muahaha
[20:36] <mkiefer> apt-get update, then apt-get upgrade
[20:37] <hooooooopy> why doesn't ubuntu have a gitosis package?
[20:37] <mneptok> Dethroned: System > Admin > Synaptic  |  Settings > Repositories
[20:37] <mneptok> Dethroned: check the box next to Restricted
[20:37] <nick__> nope
[20:38] <rish> who is MOD here?
[20:38] <effie_jayx> I tried chrooting and fixing it but it seems broken
[20:39] <tyler_d1> What is a uuid(hard drive) and where does this come from in relation to ubuntu?
[20:39] <Dethroned> mneptok: kk...then try the command again?
[20:40] <mkiefer> soopa: have you tried aptitude?
[20:41] <effie_jayx> It seems I have an issue with my hardy box. dpkg has stopped working due to a postinst problem
[20:41] <effie_jayx> the error reads "Can't locate strict.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.8.8 /usr/local/share/perl/5.8.8
[20:41] <effie_jayx> aparrently it has to do with perl
[20:41] <rish> CAN ANYONE HELP ME??
[20:41] <effie_jayx> I tried chrooting and fixing it but it seems broken
[20:41] <th0was> salut
[20:42] <nick2paris> salut
[20:43] <th0was> oui alors
[20:43] <tyler_d1> nick2paris | !fr
[20:43] <thedarkone> hey all
[20:43] <tyler_d1> !fr
[20:44] <thedarkone> for life of me i can't figure out why i can't get internet to work
[20:44] <cankoy> effie_jayx: strict.pm is part of perl-base
[20:44] <fretegi> is anyone here proficient in wine?
[20:44] <rish> ye darkstone, what happened?
[20:44] <fedder> Hi everybody. -I've got a disk with a ext3 partition that was part of a dm_raid setup. -What the best approach to mount that in a new (ubuntu) box?
[20:45] <effie_jayx> cankoy: the package is there
[20:45] <scott_ino> thedarkone: what seems to be the problem
[20:46] <PointMan> how do I go back during the 'installing the base system' screen in the installer? Im doing a nw install..
[20:47] <fedder> When mounting the partition I get: "mount: unknown filesystem type 'linux_raid_member'"
[20:47] <Hajuu> hey how can I change my installs computer-name?
[20:47] <bigfuzzyj> what is the best way to dual boot osx and ubuntu
[20:47] <Hajuu> bigfuzzyj: bootcamp xD
[20:47] <effie_jayx> cankoy: the package is ther
[20:48] <deany> Hajuu, sudo pico /etc/hostname
[20:48] <bigfuzzyj> is boot camp free?
[20:48] <siwon> ah this bugs me in the file browser how do i find the themes and icon and so on folders, all i see in my home foler is just my profile folder with basic music and pic folers
[20:48] <Hajuu> sweet, thanks
[20:48] <Hajuu> bigfuzzyj: yeah
[20:48] <siwon> how do i see the hidden files
[20:48] <Hajuu> bigfuzzyj its by apple too
[20:48] <thedarkone> i rebooted and now it says no active connections
[20:48] <niku> hi, I've done a little bit of research so far, but wanted to setup a personal package archive w/o using launchpad - could anyone point me to some documentation?
[20:48] <Hajuu> should be on your macos dvd
[20:48] <Hajuu> bigfuzzyj: should be on your macos dvd
[20:48] <yourfreakingmom> siwon: ctrl+h
[20:48] <bigfuzzyj> sorry slightly stoopid
[20:49] <deany> Hajuu, reboot.
[20:49] <Hajuu> deany: kk thanks :)
[20:49] <Hilikus> what privileges does a backup user need to be able to backup ALL my databases??
[20:49] <Dethroned> how do install flashplayer in 9/04?
[20:49] <Dethroned> 9.04*
[20:49] <siwon> that does nothing
[20:49] <Mike_lifeguard> If I want to backup my whole installation, what would be a good tool to use?
[20:49] <fedder> Dethroned: searh after restricted formats
[20:49] <deany> Dethroned, sudo apt-get install adobe-flashplugin
[20:49] <scott_ino> dethroned, install ubuntu-restricted-extras and it will install flash player
[20:50] <scott_ino> Dethroned: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[20:50] <deany> scott_ino, that installs a lot more than flash :)  Useful stuff nontheless
[20:51] <david__> Hey scott in Synaptic package manager it say's I have compiz but I cant find it
[20:51] <scott_ino> deany: yeah true, but it's the easiest, and most users probably need the other stuff anyway :0
[20:51] <Dethroned> scott_ino: it says resources temporarily unavailable
[20:51] <siwon> clt+h did nothing
[20:51] <deany> scott_ino, its as easy as adobe-flashplugin :)
[20:52] <Dethroned> scptt_ino:  it won't let me because it was unable to lock the download directory
[20:52] <scott_ino> deany: see I'm always lookin to the future when tey come back and ask about java, ttf, etc..
[20:52] <Orange_v_Blue> If I want to learn to code/develop for ubuntu, what language should I start with? I have some experience coding, just not recently enough to know a good language.
[20:52] <deany> scott_ino, its best imo to only install whats needed.
[20:53] <joekarl> Orange_v_Blue, I'd start with some python
[20:53] <JC_Denton_> trying to run ap-get upgrade / update-manager http://pastebin.com/dbc38f5c
[20:53] <JC_Denton_> but ubuntu doesn't update any longer
[20:53] <deany> scott_ino, well he has 2 ways of installing it now, its upto him :)
[20:53] <scott_ino> deany: lol i suppose so
[20:54] <Orange_v_Blue> joekarl: Have a favorite book/instruction manual? I've got a few around, but I thought I'd ask
[20:55] <mkiefer> any experience with an upgrade from hardy eee edition to jaunty on an eee 900a?
[20:55] <jelly-bean> anyone know why my vnc keyboard mapping has screwed up since i upgraded from intrepid to jaunty?
[20:56] <joekarl> Orange_v_Blue, not for python, I've only dabbled with it, other choice would be c or c++,
[20:56] <JC_Denton_> Orange_v_Blue: If you like managed languages, check out Mono
[20:57] <nick2paris> hey !
[20:57] <nick2paris> what is the best dock for ubuntu?
[20:57] <JC_Denton_> trying to update but unable to: unable to create `./usr/share/zoneinfo/Africa/Algiers': Read-only file system
[20:58] <nick2paris>  what is the best dock for ubuntu?
[20:59] <Advance> Hey I'm having trouble with minicom if anyone can help me
[20:59] <__frott__25_> bonjour à tous
[20:59] <Viper550> nick2paris, avant?
[20:59] <Viper550> __frott__25_,  #ubuntu-fr ?
[20:59] <Advance> Please for great justice i need help
[20:59] <fccf> you will just have to edit it back together
[21:00] <Advance> nvm
[21:00] <fccf> I thought this was recorded until I looked at the studio clock behind Abby's head
[21:00] <Orange_v_Blue> joekarl, JC_Denton_: It's been years since I coded, and that was just Basic and VB. I was really good at that, but like I said, mostly useless languages, many years ago.
[21:00] <nick2paris> no good dock for ubuntu?
[21:00] <nick2paris> avant is good?
[21:00] <fccf> sorry wrong channel
[21:01] <JC_Denton_> If you liked VB you'll like Mono which is an implementation of C# which has Java like syntax, Orange_v_Blue
[21:01] <Myrtti> nick2paris: avant or cairo-dock
[21:01] <JC_Denton_> Though there is VB.net support you're better off learning C#/Mono
[21:01] <gruppo>  irc.darksin.it
[21:01] <nick2paris> Myrtti: thx
[21:01] <rish> NEED HELP NO SOUND IN DELL STUDIO
[21:01] <gruppo>  /server irc.darksin.it
[21:01] <Orange_v_Blue> JC_Denton_, joekarl: where can I start with those? Text editor/scite?
[21:02] <joekarl> Orange_v_blue, JC_Denton, Mono is nice, but the documentation is pretty terrible compared to something like python
[21:02] <kaie2> kaie, could you please switch to a different nickname? I had registered it much before, and I'll reclaim it now using nickserv. Thank you
[21:02] <Myrtti> !caps | rish
[21:02] <rish> Dell Studio, No Sound
[21:02] <rish> Jaunty
[21:02] <rish> plz help guys
[21:02] <wolfgang> has anyone here tried to set up eve online or WoW on ubuntu?
[21:03] <joekarl> Orange_v_blue, JC_Denton, if you can get around in the shell then you just need vim or nano and a compiler
[21:03] <gartral> how do I make apt-get go back a release of a program?
[21:03] <rish> @gartal: use apt-don't get :)
[21:03] <c0cac00l> join #ubuntu-pt
[21:04] <Dr_Willis> !pin | gartral
[21:04] <Orange_v_Blue> joekarl: where can I get a compiler, then? or do I have one already and don't know it?
[21:04] <steffen> hi how kann i download an VOB Codec?
[21:04] <Dr_Willis> steffen:  i think one needs the decss stuff same as for dvd playback
[21:04] <effie_jayx> cankoy: fixed just a package from a ppa complaining about perl
[21:04] <Dr_Willis> !dvd | steffen
[21:05] <joekarl> Orange_v_blue, which language are you looking at?
[21:05] <Dr_Willis> steffen:  vlc might be able to play them also with no extra codecs
[21:06] <Orange_v_Blue> joekarl: I'm not sure yet, right now I'm digging up lots of, well, wiki pages
[21:06] <fretegi> anyone help me on a command syntax ??
[21:06] <joekarl> Orange_v_blue, ah, ok, well the internet is your friend, you should be able to find any of the compilers in the ubuntu repositories
[21:06] <rish> dell studio, jaunty. no sound coming. Can u help?
[21:06] <rish> dell studio, jaunty. no sound coming. Can u help?
[21:07] <rish> dell studio, jaunty. no sound coming. Can u help?
[21:07] <FloodBot3> rish: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:07] <joekarl> Orange_v_blue, g++ for c or c++, the compiler comes with python and mono
[21:07] <gartral> steffen: VLC can play them.. if you took them orrectly
[21:07] <rish> dell studio, jaunty. no sound coming. Can u help?
[21:07] <rish> dell studio, jaunty. no sound coming. Can u help??
[21:07] <rish> dell studio, jaunty. no sound coming. Can u help??
[21:07] <rish> dell studio, jaunty. no sound coming. Can u help???
[21:07] <FloodBot3> rish: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:08] <Orange_v_Blue> rish: just wait, or try later, or google something like "ubuntu 9.04 no sound". being obnoxious will not really help your cause.
[21:08] <elli222> Hello, resuming after a suspend remounts my root filesystem Read only. How can i fix this?
[21:08] <gubuntu> anyone know how to run a command on another persons ssh session?
[21:08] <Hajuu> Impossible..
[21:08] <gubuntu> i have a friend ssh'd into my box, i have root
[21:08] <rish> Orange_v_Blue:I already tried that. Also posted on ubuntu forums. No help
[21:08] <gubuntu> i want to run a program in his session from mine locally
[21:08] <gubuntu> is that possible?
[21:09] <marta> hola?
[21:09] <marta> hola????????????????????'
[21:09] <whodata> Hey guys. How can I use an ftp client or something similar to connect to a website that just has a bunch of directories and file (listings) in it so i can queu the downloads? Thanks
[21:09] <Myrtti> !es | marta
[21:09] <nightdrever> ok ive installed crossover chromaium.....how do i completly remove it?
[21:09] <nightdrever> its in my application menu
[21:09] <jatt> whodata: wget
[21:10] <marta> no me quedo con este
[21:10] <jatt> !ews
[21:10] <jatt> !es
[21:10] <whodata> jatt... is there  a gui for wget with which i can browse files?
[21:10] <marta> hello
[21:10] <x1karr0usx> sup
[21:10] <Orange_v_Blue> marta: hey. If you have a question, just ask it and someone will try to help
[21:11] <Orange_v_Blue> marta: sorry, I didn't intend that to sound as negative as it does, upon reflection
[21:11] <buttons840> the system monitor that is available by default for the pannels, is there a way to tweek the options more than what is shown in the preferences dialog?
[21:12] <puller> any reason why i would not be able to connect to a wep wireless network as apposed to a non-secure wireless network?
[21:12] <ninjaai> hello i have problem while booting with my raid0, i was playing with dmraid before reboot maybe because of thart
[21:12] <x1karr0usx> anyone have issues connecting to networks without installing xorg?
[21:13] <puller> losher: hey i got rid of the black pause when bootign up gettign rid of the ipv6 thingy but now i can not seem to connect to a secure wireless netowrk any ideas?
[21:13] <cankoy> effie_jayx: check @INC paths with perl -V
[21:13] <x1karr0usx> i cant even get hooked into open networks, let alone secured
[21:13] <david__> Hey scoot_ino how do I make the video setting's perminate it wont save to xorg.config
[21:13] <david__> scott_ino*
[21:13] <tv7497> guys had set up a lamp server long long time  ago it was working fine until day before yesterday i guess i screwed it up while reinstalling my openssh server i have no clue what have i messed with ! should i go for a re installation of the entire system ? i use jaunty on a 64 bit machine 1
[21:14] <scott_ino> david__: yes?
[21:14] <david__> my video setting's wont save to the xorg.config file
[21:15] <david__> say's unable to create new X config backup file '/ect/X11/xorg.config.backup'
[21:16] <ninjaai> http://paste.ubuntu.com/194597/
[21:16] <chrones> Hello all I have a problem, I recently downgraded from ubuntu Jaunty 9.04 to Ubuntu hardy 8.04 and I am seeing a decrease in performance. The reason why I went to hardy was because I wanted Proprietary driver support for my ATi Radeon 9800 Pro
[21:16] <chrones> Any ideas?
[21:16] <fedder> Is it possible to remove the raid flag of a partition?
[21:16] <Lathund> david__: use gksudo, or just sudo if your using a Nano or Vim.
[21:17] <dajhorn> fedder: Change the partition type to something that isn't RAID and reformat.
[21:17] <SamCroft> what is the terminal program or command to manager my wireless card
[21:17] <david__> ?
[21:17]  * ninjaai all must see "the arrivals" on youtube!!! to know the truth of whats happening on this world!
[21:17] <SamCroft> The default network manager that comes with ubuntu is horrible
[21:17] <fedder> dajhorn: Problem is that I'd prefer to keep the data on the partition.
[21:17] <CSSnub> How do I specify a non-standard port to connect to with ssh?
[21:17] <Lathund> david__: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[21:18] <CSSnub> ssh localhost:1234 is what I had assumed... no luck
[21:18] <dajhorn> fedder: You can't easily do that.  Backup and restore instead.
[21:18] <david__> now what?
[21:18] <spenser> cssnub it's ssh -p 1234 host
[21:18] <ARMENIAN> how can I get the bdaddress of a bluetooth headset?
[21:18] <SamCroft> what network manager do you all use?
[21:18] <fedder> dajhorn: Isn't it possible to get my new Ubuntu install to recognize the raid partition ?
[21:18] <ninjaai> hello i need help here :D http://paste.ubuntu.com/194597/
[21:19] <CSSnub> ty spenser
[21:19] <Lathund> david__: Make the chanhes and save the file. I dont know what youre trying to do, I just came in.
[21:19] <Lathund> changes*
[21:19] <dajhorn> fedder: Yes, but you asked whether you could convert the RAID volume.
[21:19] <david__> I setup my 2 monitor's and iot wont save to xorg.config
[21:19] <fedder> dajhorn: Sorry for not being specific...
[21:19] <david__> and I am total newb to linux
[21:20] <david__> so I have no idea what to put in here
[21:20] <fretegi> how do i copy files from a flash drive in terminal?
[21:20] <fretegi> <--- stupid newbie
[21:20] <fedder> dajhorn: http://paste.ubuntu.com/194602/
[21:20] <spenser> David what kind of videocard do you have and which version of ubuntu
[21:21] <david__> ubuntu 9.04 nvidia gforce 8400 gs
[21:21] <Mike_lifeguard> Anyone have suggestions for software to backup a whole system?
[21:21] <scott_ino> Mike_lifeguard: yes Clonezilla
[21:21] <scott_ino> spenser... he used the nvidia display configuration to add his second monitor
[21:21] <chrones> ﻿Hello all I have a problem, I recently downgraded from ubuntu Jaunty 9.04 to Ubuntu hardy 8.04 and I am seeing a decrease in performance. The reason why I went to hardy was because I wanted Proprietary driver support for my ATi Radeon 9800 Pro. Any ideas?
[21:21] <spenser> did you install the propritaru nvidia drivers
[21:21] <dajhorn> fedder: If the RAID volume was anything but RAID-1, then it is broken.
[21:21] <scott_ino> i'll assist in a sec
[21:22] <khazil> . Any
[21:22] <david__> yeah version 180
[21:22] <khazil>                  ideas?
[21:22] <scott_ino> spenser: yeah he installed those and used nvidia dispay configuration to add second monitor
[21:22] <khazil> oops
[21:22] <MaT-dg> how can I start a second X-session?
[21:22] <scott_ino> i'll brb
[21:22] <fedder> dajhorn: It was RAID-1
[21:22] <Lathund> david__: Oh, I just asumed you where in the xorg.conf yourself. Where you using the nvidia-settings?
[21:22] <ninjaai> :(
[21:22] <spenser> david use sudo nvidia-settings to configure the monitors
[21:22] <fretegi> anyone able to help with a simple command sybtax
[21:22] <dajhorn> fedder: You may get luck with that mount command if you change the partition type from FD to 82 with a utility like cfdisk, but you could also destroy data.
[21:22] <ARMENIAN> why is it that when i do hcitool scan only my phones are showing up, not my headsets?
[21:22] <fretegi> syntax?
[21:22] <david__> yeah I was setting up my monitor's and then tried "save to X configuration file" and it wont work
[21:23] <dajhorn> fedder: A  better way would be to use mdadm to bring up the RAID-1 volume in degraded mode, and then mount the /dev/md0 node.
[21:23] <scott_ino> spenser: ahh is that just a permissions issue with not being able to save from nvidia-settings? if so how has somebody not filed a feature request to just prompt for the administrative password
[21:23] <spenser> David it won't let you save unless you started nv settings with sudo
[21:24] <david__> oh how do I do that?
[21:24] <fedder> dajhorn: Thanks a bundle. I've forgotten about that. I configured that software raid a couple of years ago and never thought about it until the box died...
[21:24] <dominik> I just installed 8.04 and it is not detecting my network cards wich are Intell Dual 82574L GigaBit
[21:24] <spenser> Scott_Ino: that's a good idea fill the bug on lp
[21:24] <dajhorn> ninjaai: You've got mistakes in the /etc/fstab file.
[21:25] <scott_ino> spenser: doing that now :0
[21:25] <fretegi> anyone help with a command syntax?? in terminal?
[21:25] <gunavara> hi rsync error: error in rsync protocol data stream (code 12) at io.c(635) [receiver=3.0.3]  why is that showing to me ?
[21:25] <fretegi> its a quick one :)
[21:25] <lstarnes> fretegi: what command?
[21:25] <T0aster> Welcome StrangeCharm! You have achieved a new peak of 1517 users for #UBUNTU!
[21:25] <dajhorn> ninjaai: Pastebin your /etc/fstab file.
[21:25] <spenser> David: open a terminal type sudo nvidia-settings then try again
[21:25] <scott_ino> but is nvidia-settings package even maintained by ubuntu or where should i file?
[21:25] <scott_ino> I'll go ahead and file there i suppose..
[21:26] <ninjaai> dajhorn i have to boot with live cd first ?
[21:26] <david__> WOW great thank's now I wont have to reset everytime I reboot
[21:26] <spenser> Scott_UNO just file on lp
[21:26] <david__> brb gonna reboot and test it out
[21:26] <spenser> sorry I need to go I'm doing this on an iPhone
[21:26] <dajhorn> ninjaai: Yes, probably.  If you don't have /dev or /proc then it will be difficult to fix.
[21:28] <dominik> I have a Intell Dual 82574L Gigabit network adapter that Ubuntu 8.04 is NOT detecting, ifconfig only shows loopback. Please Help any suggestions appreciated
[21:28] <ninjaai> dajhorn ok i am booting
[21:29] <lifecurbed> after not having used ubuntu since version 7, 9.10 is fairly awesome :D i can't believe i've been away from it for so long
[21:30] <david__> you guy's are great to us newb's now my video setting's are right where I wanted them tyvm
[21:30] <lstarnes> lifecurbed: 7.04 or 7.10?
[21:30] <fedder> dajhorn: http://paste.ubuntu.com/194606/ :-)
[21:32] <dajhorn> fedder: modprobe raid1
[21:32] <oleg> добрый вечер всем
[21:32] <CSSnub> So I have an ssh user bob and the only thing he can see is /home/bob. Now I want him to have access to a samba share as well so I "mount -t smbfs //OtherBox/Share /home/bob" right?
[21:32] <dajhorn> fedder: mdadm --assemble /dev/md0 missing /dev/sdb3
[21:32] <CSSnub> Am I misunderstanding the purpose of mount here?
[21:32] <scott_ino> spenser: it appears to be an already filed bug from hardy : (
[21:32] <scott_ino> still not resolved i suppose
[21:33] <oleg> hi people
[21:33] <david__> hi
[21:34] <oleg> what's going on here?))
[21:34] <geronimo9> CSSnub don't mount the samba share to /home/bob but maybe to /home/bob/smbshare or something
[21:34] <Dr_Willis> CSSnub:  theres also a lot of little things to watch out for when using samba. its a rather complex sysetm that most people just scratch the surface of.
[21:34] <dominik> please help ethernet device is not detected by ubuntu
[21:34] <lifecurbed> lstarnes: 7.10 was the last desktop version I've tested. Generally I've dealt with centOS & hp-ux at work. this 9.10 desktop is quite beautiful though so Thank you to everyone who has contributed.
[21:35] <scunizi> Is anyone aware of a "class scheduling" program in the repos? either gnome or kde based?
[21:35] <CSSnub> OK - so to be clear I would use mount to create a link between a physical drive and a location in the filesystem. I could mount that same samba share for all 5 users in their specific home directories right?
[21:35] <CSSnub> Dr_Willis - security risk then? setting it up with ssh this way?
[21:35] <Dr_Willis> CSSnub:  mount 'mounts' a file system . dont use the term link. :) thats somthing else.
[21:36] <Dr_Willis> CSSnub:  you proberly want to  mount the share to someplace like /media/sharename for all users to find it. would be easier.
[21:36] <CSSnub> So how would I allow them to access that directory then?
[21:36] <Dr_Willis> CSSnub:  then you could 'link' that /media/sharename to their own home/subdirs if you wanted.
[21:36] <gjperez> Does anybody know of a distro agnostinc tutorial on how to make an installable livecd based on an existing system?
[21:36] <Hajuu> Impossible..
[21:36] <fedder> dajhorn: Sorry for being such a noop, but I must be doing something wrong here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/194610/
[21:36] <Dr_Willis> CSSnub:  they access like they do any other directory. It dosent have tobe in their home dirs
[21:37] <CSSnub> oh... ok
[21:37] <halberd> what's a good dictionary program?
[21:38] <CSSnub> does this mean they can access any of the files on this system?
[21:38] <dajhorn> fedder:  Try it without the "missing" keyword.
[21:38] <CSSnub> I really only want them to be able to get to media/share
[21:38] <fedder> dajhorn: That's what I did in line 5
[21:38] <dajhorn> fedder:  mdadm --force --assemble /dev/md0 /dev/sdb3
[21:39] <jophish> can anyone recommend a good video encoder
[21:39] <lifecurbed> gnome notifications - I'm currently using ubuntu 9.10 x64 and I was trying to find the best way to have growl-esque notifications when using pidgin, firefox, etc. I've tried mumbles, but it doesn't seem to work properly on ubuntu x64.
[21:39] <CSSnub> I obviously have a lot of questions - can you point me to some mans to read or something? About setting up user accounts and permissions/access?
[21:39] <rainwalker> if my wireless card works with 32-bit Ubuntu, it should work wtih 64-bit, right?
[21:39] <fedder> dajhorn: mdadm: --assemble would set mdadm mode to "assemble", but it is already set to "manage"
[21:39] <Jeruvy> !karmic | lifecurbed
[21:40] <xcdfgkjhgcv> I've set up Samba on both of my machines but my machines can only detect and mount local shares. I can't share files between machines.
[21:40] <dajhorn> fedder: What does mdadm --version say?   And how old is the RAID volume?
[21:40] <Dr_Willis> CSSnub:  linux has permissions on files/dirs that limit what users can do.
[21:40] <dominik> how can I
[21:40] <Dr_Willis> CSSnub:  and theres 100000s of google hits on linux fundamental/tutoials/docs :)
[21:40] <dominik> sorry, how can I diagnose my hardware, especially network connections, if the ehternet is not recognized
[21:41] <libtech> xcdfgkjhgcv: trying typing smb://<ip address of machine>
[21:41] <fedder> dajhorn: mdadm - v2.6.7.1 - 15th October 2008
[21:41] <Dr_Willis> xcdfgkjhgcv:  make sure their workgroups are the same.. and i often set up the /etc/hosts file with the static ip of the remote box's
[21:41] <renagadex> I cant run Tremulous, it wont start
[21:41] <fedder> I created the volume back in 2007 with OpenSUSE 10.3
[21:41] <xcdfgkjhgcv> Dr_Willis: How do I find out the workgroups?
[21:41] <Dr_Willis> xcdfgkjhgcv:  with the nautilus browser i often have to type in the FULL path to the share also. the browsing feature is often not working right (or the shares are not set to be browseable)
[21:41] <xcdfgkjhgcv> Dr_Willis: But that's GAY!
[21:42] <Dr_Willis> xcdfgkjhgcv:  its in /etc/samba/smb.conf  You did instgall the full samba package on both machines?
[21:42] <xcdfgkjhgcv> Dr_Willis: I want to browse them.
[21:42] <Dr_Willis> xcdfgkjhgcv:  whatever.....
[21:42] <xcdfgkjhgcv> Dr_Willis: Yes.
[21:42] <fedder> dajhorn: Hmm. That was on 32bit opensuse 10.3, now I'm running Ubuntu 9.04 in x86_64...
[21:42] <Dr_Willis> xcdfgkjhgcv:  enter full path once.. tell it to rember password... it never has a problem for me after that.
[21:42] <fedder> Naaah, that couldn't be it...
[21:42] <Dr_Willis> xcdfgkjhgcv:  or mount them somewhere via fstab
[21:42] <dajhorn> fedder: The order of arguments may matter. Try mdadm `--assemble --force`.  The man page for that version says that assembly mode can be forced.
[21:42] <renagadex> I cant run Tremulous, it wont start
[21:42] <fedder> dajhorn: I was actually just looking at that
[21:43] <Dr_Willis> tremulous always make me so dizzy i puke. :)
[21:43] <istvan_> I just installed updates (the pre-release ones) and restarted. now firefox has no javascript, and my panel tools are broken. waht is going on?
[21:43] <libtech> when i try to access shares on my windows machine, it doesnt work to simply click the network button, i have to type into the browser smb://192.168.1.100
[21:43] <dajhorn> fedder:  I'm pretty sure that you shoudn't be getting the superblock error when the examine results show a superblock.
[21:44] <dominik> please help me connect my ubuntu machine 8.04 to the internet, ETHERNET adapter is not recognized
[21:44] <xcdfgkjhgcv> I accidentally turned off Wi-Fi. ><
[21:44] <dajhorn> fedder: If this disk has important data, then you should make a raw "dd" style backup before doing anything else.
[21:45] <fedder> dajhorn: I've got the data backed up. It is just cumbersome to transfer 400GB.. Thanks for the help though
[21:45] <Skylight> is there someone who likes to install apache and php for me :blush:"
[21:46] <lifecurbed> dominik: please explain your situation, are you using an onboard card? if no, what make and model is the card?
[21:46] <dominik> skylight it is an onboard intel dual 82574L gigabit adapter and ifconfig only shows the loopback, nothing else
[21:46] <cweilema> Anyone tried to "xlock" multiple xwindows instances on the same LAN with one command?  Or know of a utility that would accomplish this?
[21:46] <dominik> skylight the hardware lights are flashing by the way
[21:47] <Skylight> wtf ? ;
[21:47] <max_> How can i change the 'locale' for my computer? It is currently displaying 24hr formats, and i need 12hr form
[21:47] <Skylight> i think u mean lifecurbed
[21:47] <RalphSpencer> Hi, how to allow RLogin, ssh etc on this computer so that I can do it remotely?
[21:47] <RalphSpencer> This is an Ubuntu 8.10
[21:47] <Dr_Willis> RalphSpencer:  for ssh install the open ssh server.
[21:48] <RalphSpencer> Hmm hold on will try thanks
[21:48] <Dr_Willis> I thought all the 'rXXXX whatever' commands were considered outdated/insecure
[21:48] <tpresa> hi, what would be an one line command to install sun-java6-jre without any prompting?
[21:48] <xcdfgkjhgcv> My two machines are unable to ping each other for some reason: From 192.168.1.65 icmp_seq=5 Destination Host Unreachab
[21:48] <xcdfgkjhgcv> Over a LAN
[21:48] <xcdfgkjhgcv> WLAN even
[21:48] <distract> what does this mean? error   : [screenInitialise] Error: SDL_SetVideoMode failed (Couldn't find matching GLX visual).
[21:49] <diffred> where's apache2 log file in Ubuntu?
[21:49] <max__14> yo what is the problem when I type sudo apt-get install python pygame  into terminal it says "E: Couldn't find package pygame"
[21:49] <dus> hi
[21:49] <libtech> tpresa: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre?
[21:49] <istvan_> how do I do a re-install with apt from the terminal?
[21:50] <linxeh> max__14: there is no pacakge called pygame in your configured repositories
[21:50] <dragoon> Anyone have an idea why port forwarding's not working? iptables seems fine, ip_forward is on, logs+conf at http://pastebin.com/d385f5a0c
[21:50] <max__14> linxeh:  so how do I get it there?
[21:50] <dragoon> max__14, aptitude search game reveals python-pygame
[21:50] <linxeh> max__14: try apt-get install python-pygame
[21:50] <max__14> ok
[21:50] <linxeh> or probably better, use aptitude
[21:50] <cweilema> Is remote xlock of a computer even possible?  Or ia there another (better) way to secure an X session remote?
[21:51] <dragoon> diffred, /var/log/apache2/ has the apache2 log files
[21:51] <tpresa> libtech it prompts for licensing and stuff.
[21:51] <max__14> linxeh:  It seems to be working. thanks
[21:51] <diffred> dragoon: thanks!
[21:51] <libtech> tpresa: oh yeah, sorry
[21:51] <elena09> do you know a good program for typping math with oppen office in ubuntu 9.04?
[21:52] <dominik> lifecurbed sorry I was explaining my situation to the wrong nick, I have a Intell Dual 82574L gigabit ethernet adapter onboard that Ubuntu is not recognizing (it doesnt even exist(
[21:52] <linxeh> elena09: latex ;-)
[21:52] <tyric1> where do I put new headers and libraries in ubuntu?
[21:52] <dominik> lifecurbed also the lights on the hardware are blincking and ifconfig shows only the loopback
[21:52] <dominik> skylight thanks
[21:52] <heyheyhey> hello all is it better to use a sata hard drive or a ide hard drive?
[21:52] <cweilema> elena09: Agree, Latex is extremely powerful.
[21:53] <lifecurbed> dominik : which motherboard do you have?
[21:53] <fadiamid> k
[21:53] <elena09> cweilema: I want just to use something what you see is what you get, like MathType in Windows
[21:53] <dominik> lifecurbed its a supermicro x8sax or c7x58
[21:54] <elena09> cweilema: not latex
[21:54] <fadiamid> j'ai besion une bbw
[21:54] <dominik> lifecurbed its the c7x58
[21:54] <tyric1> heyheyhey: sata drives generally are faster and are less likely to have annoying drivers issues to deal with when installing an OS
[21:54] <alleyoopster> heyheyhey: sata are hot swap and can higher transfer rates
[21:54] <cweilema> elena09: There might be a plugin for OO that would so that utilizing Latex
[21:55] <heyheyhey> okay
[21:55] <adi1> hi all.  is there any plugin to make pidgin display music im hearing throught rhythmbox or totem in ubuntu?
[21:55] <lifecurbed> dominik : you should try compiling the driver from intel's website
[21:55] <m3gaman> by default, when you plug in a USB stick (thumbdrive) what is it's default mount location?
[21:55] <heyheyhey> so sata are better
[21:55] <cweilema> Elena09. Just a thought
[21:55] <linxeh> methylisocyanate: in /media
[21:55] <linxeh> err
[21:55] <heyheyhey> i smoked my ide
[21:55] <max_> Even though I have my time/date setting set to pH everything is still displaying time in 24hr format, not 12. How can i fix this?
[21:55] <linxeh> m3gaman: in /media
[21:55] <m3gaman> thanks
[21:55] <dominik> lifecurbed I did, nothing
[21:55] <m4rk> heyheyhey: too bad bro
[21:55] <m3gaman> linxeh: thanks
[21:55] <tyric1> heyheyhey: if it's an older system, you may have to stick with ide
[21:55] <heyheyhey> it does nothing but error out
[21:55] <dominik> lifecurbed they didn't have one specific for debian so I had to get the "linux" driver
[21:56] <alleyoopster> heyheyhey: sata are a newer standard and starting to replace ide which has been around a while now
[21:56] <heyheyhey> it a pentuim d
[21:56] <elena09> I don't need latex, I need wygwy
[21:56] <heyheyhey> 3.2
[21:56] <heyheyhey> ghz
[21:56] <dominik> elena09 all need latex
[21:56] <tyric1> heyheyhey: oh then your motherboard should support sata fine
[21:56] <mezquitale> is there a networking guru in the house?  Im trying to find out if multiple lines in /etc/network/interfaces, I need to add this to that file "auto rndis0"
[21:56] <heyheyhey> the mother board has 8 sata connections
[21:57] <elena09> I don't want any latex
[21:57] <elena09> I want a MathType like programm
[21:57] <istvan_> i installed ubuntu pre-release updates, which have killed much of my system
[21:57] <istvan_> ideas?
[21:57] <istvan_> can I roll back?
[21:58] <dominik> elena09 mathtype cant do what latex can do and it is 10000 times slower to write formulas in mathtype then it is in latex, you should consider it
[21:58] <ltcabral> what command to remove an user from a group?
[21:58] <heyheyhey> so sata is better runs faster or should i get a flash stick
[21:58] <Dr_Willis> hmm
[21:58] <heyheyhey> they are even faster
[21:59] <libtech> heyheyhey: what are you talking about
[21:59] <elena09> dominik, i wrote hundreds of pages both in Latex and in Word with mathType I like MathType instead of memorizing commands in Latex
[21:59] <elena09> I have bad memory
[21:59] <dominik> elena09 int for integral I wouldnt consider that memorizing
[22:00] <neonflx> how can i make applications open on a specific monitor when using dual monitors i.e. laptop screen, and lcd monitor thanks
[22:00] <dragoon> ltcabral, usermod -G $(id -nG USER| sed -e ’s/GROUP //’ -e ’s/ /,/g’) USER
[22:00] <dominik> elena09 anyways why are you not useing word anymore?
[22:00] <heyheyhey> libtech they sell soild state hard drives would they be any better then sata
[22:00] <ltcabral> dragoon:  wath o.O
[22:00] <linxeh> elninja: I use a decent latex editor, but ok :)
[22:01] <cypha> can someone tell me how to connect to fics with xboard? i'm getting a "failed to start first chess program gnuchessx on localhost: gnuchessx: no such file or directory" error
[22:01] <libtech> heyheyhey: im not too sure, sata hard drives are plenty fast methinks
[22:01] <heyheyhey> okay
[22:01] <heyheyhey> i will use my 1tb sata then
[22:01] <linxeh> elninja: and our departmental standard is latex, so if I use something else I've got hours of fiddling to get a template together, and then manage the bibliography, and everthing else. its not worth it
[22:01] <libtech> heyheyhey: i dont know much about solid state except that they are expensive
[22:02] <dragoon> ltcabral, substitute the group to remove for GROUP and the user to remove from for USER. usermod can set your group membership, but it doesn't have a specific "remove me from this group"
[22:02] <dominik> libtech there seek times are insane
[22:02] <Viper550> okay, some guidance, can the installer resize ntfs partitions?
[22:02] <mezquitale> i want to add the following line to "/etc/networking/interfaces"----> "auto rndis0", should I create a new line or should I just add rndis0 to the line that's there for example "auto lo rndis0"
[22:02] <dominik> viper550 i belive not
[22:02] <mattubuntu> how do you get 3D drivers for linux?
[22:02] <dragoon> ltcabral, so that oneliner figures out what your group membership is and then adds you to every group but that
[22:03] <hubert_> cześć
[22:03] <dragoon> Viper550, resizing NTFS has worked for me fairly well in the past
[22:03] <mattubuntu> Hey guys, how do you get 3D drivers for linux?  i have onboard graphics, but still need drivers
[22:03] <dominik> mattubuntu what card
[22:03] <mattubuntu> it's intel extreme graphics 3D
[22:04] <toenail> does anyone know how to install Jack Audio through  Shell . apt-get ?
[22:04] <Hajuu> Impossible..
[22:04] <ltcabral> dragoon: thanks :)
[22:04] <qbrix> How can I mount a windows share folder?
[22:04] <dominik> mattubuntu intell probably has drivers for you if its a new card
[22:04] <mattubuntu> i've downloaded the drivers, but there not linux compatible
[22:04] <halberd> is there any point in the boot process when it can be said that "ubuntu has been started"
[22:04] <ctmjr> !intel|mattubuntu
[22:04] <halberd> like it can be said that there's a point when the kernel has been started
[22:05] <Viper550> cause my drive currently has fat32 recovery partition (which however isn't "needed" since we have CD's), and a ntfs partition
[22:05] <dominik> how can I force ubuntu to load a module
[22:05] <eyez> i need to apt-get install mysql-server in an unattended script, so i need it to not prompt me to set up the root password at install, can anyone tell me how?
[22:06] <outofthemadness> dominik: a kernel module? if so, try "sudo modprobe module_name"
[22:06] <lifecurbed> dominik: have you checked to see if your system is loading the driver? or if the device is currently up?
[22:06] <dominik> lifecurbed don't know how
[22:06] <dragoon> anyone have an idea why port forwarding isn't working? ip_forward is on, PREROUTING step looks fine
[22:06] <greg> hi guys can anyone help me with my ubuntu box - the hard drive is constantly clicking like somethings is being written / read.  only had the problem when i updated xorg drivers. any suggestions.
[22:07] <dominik> outofthemadness that doesn't do anything, problem remains
[22:07] <qbrix> if a drive is clicking, that's bad
[22:07] <qbrix> I'd replace it
[22:07] <lifecurbed> dominik: try a "modprobe -l |grep e1000e" or an "lspci" to see if your card's driver is being loaded, or if the device is currently available
[22:07] <max_> Hi. I'm having a problem. I cant change to 12hr time. I set that in time/date as 12hr format, and my clock is in 12hr format, but all my programs that look to that to see time/date are all in 24 hour format.
[22:07] <dominik> lifecurbed is that an l?
[22:08] <lifecurbed> dominik: I'm looking around the forums and such and it seems that you are definitely not the only person having a problem with this card, though most report that when installing intel's drivers that it in turn works fine for them
[22:08] <toenail> does anyone know how to install Jack Audio through  Shell . apt-get ?
[22:08] <Hajuu> Impossible..
[22:08] <Dr_Willis> !find jackd
[22:08] <Dr_Willis> !info jackd
[22:08] <max_> toenail: apt-get isntall jackd
[22:08] <lifecurbed> dominik: in both cases an l
[22:09] <Dr_Willis> apt-cache search is our friend... :)
[22:10] <toenail> do i have to do sudu before it , sorry i hagvent worked with ubuntu sense version 6
[22:10] <rainwalker> why does the restricted drivers manager list two versions of the nvidia driver (versions 180 and 173)?
[22:10] <toenail> so 3 or 4 years
[22:10] <lifecurbed> dominik: "modprobe -l | grep e1000e" - the parameter is an l, and the character that comes before the grep command is a pipe, but you might know that.
[22:10] <Hajuu> hey inside my chroot what apt packages should I install to get the whole set of core utils
[22:11] <ikonia> Hajuu: there is quite a few and it depends what you define as core utils
[22:11] <toenail> did the sudo but getting   ....E: Invalid operation isntall
[22:11] <lstarnes> toenail: what command are you using?
[22:11] <toenail> oh der nevermind
[22:11] <ikonia> Hajuu: (don't forget there is also a package called coreutils)
[22:11] <Mike_lifeguard> Is there any way to estimate how large the .tar.gz will be for a particular operation?
[22:11] <ikonia> Mike_lifeguard: no
[22:11] <Dr_Willis> Mike_lifeguard:  woule totally depend on what you are compressing
[22:12] <Hajuu> ah thats what I was after
[22:12] <ikonia> Mike_lifeguard: tar tvf will be best give an idea
[22:12] <Hajuu> thanks ikonia
[22:12] <ha1331_> any idea why I get frames with red artifacts, almost the whole frame red, but kind of like the flag that is waved at the end of car race, but red and transparent? I get them on random interval. This started today. Happens with SMPlayer and vlc player.
[22:12] <Hajuu> :)
[22:12] <toenail> i got it thanks
[22:12] <dominik> lifecurbed it shows that the driver is loaded
[22:12] <ibuclaw> rainwalker, for some users, only one or the other driver will work. Although as far as NViDIA is concerned, the 180 drivers are the current stable. 173 being old stable. (and 185 being the beta drivers).
[22:12] <dominik> lifecurbed actually it shows two one that I installed and the a e1000e ich9m.ko
[22:12] <Viper550> so can it resize?
[22:12] <rainwalker> ibuclaw: if I have a Quadro card, should I go with 180, then?
[22:13] <toenail> im ediotic . so it installed jack but how do i run i through the Gnu
[22:13] <ha1331_> The whole flag thing was to describe the fact, that the red artifats are same sized squares.
[22:13] <lifecurbed> dominik: ok - how about an "lspci | grep 82574"
[22:13] <ibuclaw> rainwalker, the 180 drivers are recommended.
[22:13] <dominik> lifecurbed shows two intel corporation 8257l connections
[22:13] <pw-toxic> hi - i have bought an INTEL SSD 80 GB and now i want to clone my partition (50GB
[22:14] <max_> Hi. I'm having a problem. I cant change to 12hr time. I set that in time/date as 12hr format, and my clock is in 12hr format, but all my programs that look to that to see time/date are all in 24 hour format.
[22:14] <pw-toxic> ) of my old HDD to my intel SSD .. because i dont want to reconfigure my ubuntu
[22:14] <pw-toxic> how do i do this?
[22:14] <lifecurbed> dominik: alright, so your modules are loaded, and the hardware is recognized by the OS. it's quite possibly a driver issue then
[22:14] <rainwalker> ibuclaw: alright, and you're sure the 185.xx versions are beta? I'm reading a thread on the forums that gives the impression they've been released
[22:15] <diffred> how do I convert .dvi or .ps into jpg?
[22:15] <Mike_lifeguard> Dr_Willis: I'm compressing my whole home dir -- is there a ballpark % reduction in size .gz achieves for such scenarios?
[22:15] <usser> rainwalker, just installed 185, they are released
[22:16] <rainwalker> usser: how is it?
[22:16] <ibuclaw> rainwalker, oh wow, I am behind the times :D
[22:16] <ibuclaw> http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=122606
[22:16] <usser> Mike_lifeguard, depends on the files you store. videos and music dont compress well
[22:16] <ibuclaw> rainwalker, that thread should explain everything
[22:16] <usser> rainwalker, works alright, i havent had major issues with nvidia drivers since 170
[22:16] <rainwalker> ibuclaw: so is there a reason they aren't listed in the restricted drivers manager?
[22:17] <rainwalker> usser: better than 180? I want to get the most out of this 1 GB quadro
[22:17] <dominik> lifecurbed what if I unload the driver that came with ubuntu?
[22:17] <usser> rainwalker, the reason 185 is not in the repos is that its considered a major upgrade as opposed to a security fix major upgrades dont make it into repos
[22:17] <Mike_lifeguard> usser: yeah, actually, I'd like to exclude music, videos, my source code (which probably compresses well, but is stored elsewhere already), and my backups (of other machines)
[22:17] <ibuclaw> rainwalker, looks like the 185 official release is recent. I'd expect it'll be in the next release of Ubuntu (9.10).
[22:17] <usser> rainwalker, quadro uses special drivers as far as i know. it works with 180 right now??
[22:17] <Mike_lifeguard> usser: so the rest is just documents and all the .config_dirs
[22:18] <neonflx> how can i force apps to open on a specific monitor when using dual monitors, i read that it was a bug on jaunty, does anyone knows if there is a work around, thx
[22:18] <xemacs4321> help
[22:18] <rainwalker> usser: yeah, it works. I'm guessing google would show me the way to these special drivers you're talking about?
[22:18] <usser> Mike_lifeguard, tar has --exclude option
[22:19] <mcr> is libc6-xen considered obsolete in hardy+, or should it exist?
[22:19] <mcr> I'm getting: libc6-xen: PreDepends: libc6 (= 2.7-10ubuntu3) but 2.7-10ubuntu4 is to be installed
[22:19] <_user_> plz how to group desktop icons like kde in gnome
[22:19] <mcr> as I upgrade some scripts from feisty to lts.
[22:20] <usser> Mike_lifeguard, ie tar -cvf desk.tar /home/user --exclude /home/user/VMs /home/user/Videos /home/user/Music
[22:20] <Oriax> hi, i have a little question... i downloaded ubuntu from ubuntu.no, burned the cd and started installing. when the install was almost finished, a message came up saying something like "file error" and that i should try to burn the cd at a lower speed, so i did. but the problem was still there. any idea whats wrong?
[22:21] <_user_> plz how to group desktop icons like kde in gnome
[22:21] <Mike_lifeguard> usser: ok, cool
[22:21] <mcr> sounds like the cdrom didn't burn right.
[22:21] <Dr_Willis> Oriax:  did you check the md5sum of the iso file? redownload it? i always use unetbootin to just make a bootable flash drive from ISO file and insall from the flash drive (faster install that way also)
[22:21] <mcr> I suggest that you use the "verify CD" option in the boot menu before you try to install.
[22:22] <dom96> i have a question, how do i enable or even force v-sync because i get a lot of screen tear when i watch movies ?
[22:22] <Oriax> im, thanks dr willis, however i have no idea what you are talking about... im not too good with this stuff...
[22:23] <Dr_Willis> Oriax:  unetbootin is a tool that makes a bootable flash drive from a iso image file. i use it - and i dont have to burn cd's any more ;)
[22:23] <ctmjr> dom96, what video card do you use and driver?
[22:23] <Oriax> where do i download it from?
[22:23] <Dr_Willis> mcr:  also do what mcr said and verify the disk is good..
[22:23] <dom96> ctmjr, i use ati radeon 4670
[22:23] <guntbert> !md5sum | Oriax
[22:23] <Dr_Willis> Oriax:  google is our friend. ;) it has a sourceforge page
[22:23] <dom96> and i'm not sure which driver
[22:23] <dom96> how can i check ?
[22:23] <Oriax> hehe ok thanks
[22:24] <usser> Mike_lifeguard, my bad tar -cvf desk.tar /home/user --exclude "/home/user/VMs" --exclude "/home/usr/Videos"
[22:24] <dom96> ctmjr ?
[22:24] <usser> Mike_lifeguard, you have to prepend each excluded directory with --exclude
[22:24] <Mike_lifeguard> k
[22:25] <ctmjr> dom96, type this in terminal egrep "Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers" /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[22:25] <kebomix> what is ntfs-3g force mount command ?
[22:25] <Dr_Willis> !ntfs-3g
[22:25] <dom96> ctmjr:(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//fglrx_drv.so
[22:26] <dom96> that's what i got
[22:26] <Dr_Willis> kebomix:  you can use the ntfs-3g command with a 'force' option to forcce it to mount a ntfs filesytem
[22:27] <kebomix> Dr_Willis: thanks , can u write complete command 4 me , cuz one of my friends need it quickly ?
[22:27] <dom96> ctmjr:well ?
[22:27] <Dr_Willis> kebomix:  ntfs-3g --help    and see the format.. i forget it off hand. i rarely need it
[22:27] <Dr_Willis> kebomix:  use -o force as the option. i recall
[22:28] <dominik> im trying to unmount a module but it claims that it is not found but the same module is listed with modporbe -l
[22:28] <dom96> ctmjr:k i think i got the driver version, 8.6
[22:28] <MadsRH> How do I start two applications at the same time? I thought something like this might work, but it didn't: /home/mads/.CoverGloobus/CoverGloobus.py & banshee-1 --redirect-log --play-enqueued %U
[22:29] <lifecurbed> dominik: this issue seems to be alleviated in kernel 2.6.30.* so you might want to try upgrading to the newest kernel
[22:29] <dom96> ctmjr any ideas ?
[22:29] <Dr_Willis> MadsRH:   make a script is the easier way.  or use &&   but && only launches the 2nd IF the first command returns first/succesuffly
[22:29] <Dr_Willis> MadsRH:  or use  commanbd & ; othercommand &
[22:30] <Dr_Willis> oh wait that dont work. :)
[22:30] <dominik> lifecurbed I can't nvidea hasn't released cuda drivers for 9.04
[22:30] <dragoon> How do I port forward using iptables? iptables -A PREROUTING -i eth0 -p tcp -m tcp --dport 922 -j DNAT --to-destination 192.168.32.10:22 doesn't work.
[22:30] <max_> Hi. I'm having a problem. I cant change to 12hr time. I set that in time/date as 12hr format, and my clock is in 12hr format, but all my programs that look to that to see time/date are all in 24 hour format.
[22:30] <ctmjr> dom96, it is almost impossible to get tear free video with the fglrx driver you can try the radeon xorg driver but you will not have 3d
[22:31] <dominik> lifecurbed the lates version they have is 8.10, but I couldn't find that download so I got the 8.04
[22:31] <dominik> lifecurbed its lts
[22:31] <Oriax> i did the md5sum, and it said that the sums are the same. what now?
[22:31] <dom96> ctmjr are you sure, couse i've seen on forums, some kind of command that you can type into th terminal
[22:31] <dom96> but it doesn't work for me
[22:31] <neonflx> how can i force apps to open on a specific monitor when using dual monitors, i read that it was a bug on jaunty, does anyone knows if there is a work around, thx
[22:32] <Dr_Willis> neonflx:  using ati or nvidia or other card?
[22:32] <ford> hey all basic question. What is the command to find out what video cards you have in terminal
[22:32] <neonflx> nvidia
[22:32] <neonflx> with the 185 drivers
[22:32] <nours> lspci | grep video
[22:32] <Dr_Willis> neonflx:  i recall at one time using  'DISPLAY=0.1 funnycommand'
[22:32] <dh003i> can someone please help me with this problem? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7446719#post7446719
[22:33] <Dr_Willis> neonflx:  ive never noticed any bug with the stuff.. my apps seem to rember what desktop/side they ere on :)
[22:33] <dom96> ctmjr sudo aticonfig --sync-vsync=on
[22:33] <nours> lspci  | grep VGA sry
[22:33] <dom96> that's the one
[22:33] <guntbert> Oriax: next step would be: burn at lower speed, the boot from the CD and select "check integrity...)
[22:33] <guntbert> *then boot...
[22:33] <neonflx> i can run a command on the screen by using alt+f2 the using bash -c "command" and it works but it is a pain
[22:33] <Oriax> yeah, i burnt from the slowest speed, and yet i have a problem...
[22:33] <Dr_Willis> neonflx:  you just totally lost me....
[22:33] <ford> cool thanks
[22:34] <dh003i> ﻿in KDE, neither of my keyboards (Northgate Omnikey via PS/2 or MS Natural via USB) work when I login with account 1, but they do work with my other user-name...what's going on?
[22:34] <ford> also another quick question if i wanted to get my second video card working would i need to remove the other from the pc or can i just duplicate that part of the xorg.conf
[22:34] <guntbert> Oriax: then please from the menu choose "check..."
[22:34] <ctmjr> dom96,you can ask in the #ati channel i do not use the fglrx driver for that reason
[22:34] <rock3> I am having an issue with my ubuntu server.  I am new to linux and ubuntu.  Can anyone help?
[22:34] <Dr_Willis> dh003i:  sounds like somne weird/confused setting in account 1. Not sure what one.  You could clear out all the kde settings i guess...\
[22:34] <neonflx> Dr_Willis: on whatever screem i'm in either the laptop or the lcd i can use alt+f2 to run a command of the app i want if i use the bash -c plus whatever command the app will open on the screen i'm in, i got that from the ubuntu forums
[22:35] <nours> ford, duplicate should work but I ve never tried
[22:35] <dom96> ctmjr i guess i'll try the xorg driver
[22:35] <dh003i> Dr_Willis: yea, I don't like that option...then I lose my arrangement of icons in the menu, right?
[22:35] <lifecurbed> dominik: you can still upgrade the kernel. check this forum post for information on upgrading your kernel - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=85917
[22:35] <ford> nours do i duplicate the whole file or just the device section?
[22:36] <dh003i> Dr_Willis: I mean, I'd lose my KDE favorites, in the KDE menu...and any other settings in the account
[22:36] <dom96> ctmjr will i still be able to go back to fglrx ?
[22:36] <Harryy> Okay, hi. Well, I have an ubuntu livecd, it is not corrupt, and neither is my memory. I go to install it, and I get "usr bin ubiquality-dm line 208 line 114 x server exited with return code str(status) return code 1." (an error similar to that).
[22:36] <Harryy> After about a few minutes, it opens just a blank terminal like what happens when you SSH into a box. What command should I run to get my Ubuntu working? The box is a Dell Dimension 2400, if that is relevant information.
[22:36] <neonflx> i'm using separate x screens laptop screen + lcd screen, i usually close the laptop so only use the big lcd some apps however when i try to open them will defult to the laptop screen wich i then have to open to see it
[22:36] <dominik> lifecurbed thanks
[22:36] <mattopp> leaving
[22:36] <nours> ford, honnestly don't know
[22:36] <lifecurbed> dominik: if you're running the 64bit version, that guide doesn't entirely apply, but it's a good start. I'm sure you'll be able to figure it out from there
[22:37] <ford> well here goes just the device section lol will log back in and tell you what happened
[22:37] <ford> providing my system reboots
[22:37] <dominik> lifecurbed how can I get the kernal if I can't do sudo apt-get cause I have no internet?
[22:37] <ctmjr> dom96,you need to remove it to use the xorg driver but if you do not like it you can reinstall the fglrx driver
[22:38] <dom96> ctmjr thanks a lot i'll ask the people on #ati first and see what they think
[22:38] <Dr_Willis> dh003i:  figure out what settinjgs are what and save tghe files i guess..
[22:38] <ctmjr> dom96, that would be best as i said i gave up on it so maybe they fixed it.
[22:38] <lifecurbed> dominik: you could download the 9.10 dvd iso, burn it, and add it as a source in your System -> Software Sources
[22:38] <dom96> ctmjr, ok thanks a lot
[22:39] <lifecurbed> dominik: 2.6.30 is included in ubuntu 9.10
[22:39] <delta9> oi
[22:39] <dominik> lifecurbed why are the drivers not competible anyways?
[22:40] <lifecurbed> dominik: I think it has something to do with the old drivers not having device ID's for your card, as it is too new
[22:40] <dkg> Hi. Is there an alternative to pcdj or traktor for ubuntu?
[22:40] <dominik> lifecurbed no I ment my cuda drivers they are only out for 8.10 why would they not work on 9.04?
[22:40] <elli222> Resuming after a suspend remounts my root filesystem Read only. How can i fix this?
[22:40] <dominik> or 9.10?
[22:40] <lifecurbed> dominik: this doesn't explain why your new drivers that you installed from intel don't work on your machine
[22:40] <ford> nours no dice man....
[22:41] <whozatmac> what became of xfce4-menueditor in jaunty?
[22:41] <lifecurbed> dominik: cuda drivers - I donno, I haven't really been keeping up. I was just referring to your ethernet drivers
[22:41] <Dr_Willis> !find xfce4-menueditor
[22:41] <Sniper606> Does anyone know if there is a way to make the thunar file manager's background transparent in XFCE on xubuntu 9.04?
[22:42] <lifecurbed> dominik: "nic" drivers. sorry.
[22:42] <dominik> lifecurbed but I was specifically wondering why drivers that work for 8.04 dont't work for 9.04
[22:42] <Skylight> some1 is known with apache and php ?
[22:43] <dominik> lifecurbed by the way centos has the drivers working
[22:43] <dominik> lifecurbed just fyi
[22:44] <nours> Skylight, yes what is the question?
[22:44] <whozatmac> I have all those xfce packages installed, but the program (and any way to access it from the GUI, are gone. as if the whole menu editor was removed from xfce 4.6
[22:44] <dkg> Is there any (free) software available in Jaunty that can play multiple audio files simultaneously to different sound cards with the ability to change the playback speed in "realtime"?  (a simplified pcdj or traktor)
[22:44] <Skylight> could u fix that ? http://trac.utorrent.com/trac/wiki/Webui-Shell
[22:44] <mcr> dkg, do you need change the speed with a key?
[22:44] <mcr> or with cmdline?
[22:45] <Skylight> nours can i pm u ?
[22:45] <dkg> mcr: mouse or key (I assume you mean key as in keyboard and not the musical term..?)
[22:45] <Harryy> Okay, hi. Well, I have an Ubuntu livecd, it is not corrupt, and neither is my memory. I go to install it, and I get "/usr/bin/ubiquality-dm line 208 [and] line 114 XServer exited with return code str(status) return code 1." (an error similar to that).
[22:45] <Harryy> After about a few minutes, it opens just a blank terminal like what happens when you SSH into a box. What command should I run to get my Ubuntu working? The box is a Dell Dimension 2400, if that is relevant information. Someone help me please :)
[22:45] <bambu> hi. how do i set my desktop wallpaper as a solid black plain background? i can only seem to choose from a few images
[22:46] <dominik> lifecurbed I can't find the dvd iso for 9.10 they are all cd images alternative installs
[22:46] <lifecurbed> dominik: you still there - i just found this which might be of some help
[22:46] <dom96> bambu, just make a black image
[22:46] <nours> Skylight, let's go :)
[22:46] <dom96> and set it as your desktop background
[22:46] <mcr> dkg, yeah, interactively, vs on a command line.
[22:46] <dom96> *desktop wallpaper
[22:46] <lifecurbed> dominik: try removing the module from the kernel by doing a "sudo rmmod e1000e"
[22:47] <Dr_Willis> err.. gnome has a thing to set a solid color
[22:47] <bambu> i created a black image on office drawing, but it wouldnt work
[22:47] <dkg> mcr: vs?
[22:47] <dominik> lifecurbed crap I shutdown, give me a min
[22:47] <bambu> do i have to create with a certain program?
[22:47] <lifecurbed> dominik: follow that by adding it again with - "modprobe e1000e"
[22:47] <dom96> not really as long as it's jpg or png
[22:47] <dom96> but as dr willis is saying
[22:47] <dom96> i think gnome does have an option like that
[22:47] <Dr_Willis> bambu:  in the gnome wallpaper settingds pick the first image, then select the color at the bottom of the dialog.
[22:47] <geronimo9> bambu you should have an option of no background image...it appears brown
[22:47] <max_> Hi. I'm having a problem. I cant change to 12hr time. I set that in time/date as 12hr format, and my clock is in 12hr format, but all my programs that look to that to see time/date are all in 24 hour format.
[22:47] <usser> bambu, you can change the wallpapers from image to solid color. its in the appearance settings somewhere
[22:48] <mcr> most of the tools, sox, mpg123, etc. will take an argument to adjust the playback speed, but they don't let you change that during the playback.
[22:48] <geronimo9> bambu ...then change the colors option to black
[22:48] <dominik> lifecurbed thanks ill try in a sec
[22:49]  * Dr_Willis wonders who added the fancy 'fade to the new background effect' in gnome...
[22:49] <dkg> mcr: I'm looking for something that can change the speed during playback and allows me to "crossfade" the tracks between sound cards
[22:49] <mcr> I get it...
[22:49] <mcr> I don't know of a tool, but I'm not clueful about such things.
[22:49] <rainwalker> Dr_Willis: I hate that effect, it doesn't work smoothly or quickly on my computer
[22:50] <bambu> ok got it. i got confused cuz i thought brown wallpaper was an image just like the rest and when my wallpaper was set as an image and i messed with the color part, it didnt do anything
[22:50] <dkg> mcr: Thankyou for your time all the same.  I'll keep googling.
[22:50] <crawler> hello.  does anyone know if there is a way to execute a key combination at system startup?  for example <Super>+F3 or <Ctrl>+<Alt>+F8?
[22:51] <antii> safe to use ext4 on my systemdrive?
[22:51] <billybigrigger> dkg::: have you tried asking around in #ubuntu-studio?
[22:51] <dominik> lifecurbed its not loaded after restart atleast it says it doesnt exist
[22:51] <billybigrigger> crawler::: start-up programs? or write a script?
[22:51] <dkg> billybigrigger: It didn't cross my mind.  Thanks for the advice : )
[22:51] <hvgotcodes> im on 8.10, for some reason when i  start firefox, it is maximized with no window decorations and cant be resized
[22:52] <dominik> lifecurbed but when I modprobe -l then it shows it
[22:52] <crawler> billybigrigger: ithanks, i've looked into basic script writing, but have no idea how to make it execute a key combination :/
[22:53] <Harryy> Okay, hi. Well, I have an Ubuntu livecd, it is not corrupt, and neither is my memory. I go to install it, and I get "/usr/bin/ubiquality-dm line 208 [and] line 114 XServer exited with return code str(status) return code 1." (an error similar to that).
[22:53] <Harryy> After about a few minutes, it opens just a blank terminal like what happens when you SSH into a box. What command should I run to get my Ubuntu working? The box is a Dell Dimension 2400, if that is relevant information. Someone help me please :)
[22:53] <billybigrigger> crawler::: what does the key combo execute?
[22:53] <tux>  q\
[22:53] <crawler> it executes the snow effect for compiz-fusion
[22:53] <billybigrigger> crawler::: ahh...
[22:54] <crawler> billybigrigger: i've already tried using the python Dbus script, but it won't execute at startup for some reason
[22:54] <billybigrigger> crawler::: well im no guru, but i guess you would have to check that compiz was running first, then execute the keystroke combo, so im thinking bash script?
[22:54] <hvgotcodes> im on 8.10, for some reason when i  start firefox, it is maximized with no window decorations and cant be resized -- is this a known problem?  I have no idea how I caused this or what to do about it...
[22:55] <billybigrigger> crawler::: yeah, i don't know like i said im no guru, so keep asking around, or google i guess
[22:55] <billybigrigger> crawler::: sorry
[22:55] <crawler> billybigrigger: ok.  [compiz-dbus-send.py snow toggle_key] works to execute snow, but when i add it to startup nothing haooens
[22:55] <juan-pablo> medibuntu dont work
[22:55] <ctmjr> how would i fix this problem in my user.log http://pastebin.com/m2d62f02f
[22:55] <joekarl> hvgotcodes, is it in full screen mode?
[22:55] <hvgotcodes> joekarl, nope
[22:56] <joekarl> hvgotcodes, no idea then
[22:56] <hvgotcodes> hmm
[22:57] <waddaa> hi
[22:57] <jumbo> Hi everyone....Witam wszystkich
[22:57] <guntbert> !pl | jumbo
[22:57] <gunavara> can anyone give me a good tutorial for setting up rsync and cron   to backup fileserver to another server ?
[22:57] <Dominik> lifecurbed sorry I crashed
[22:59] <biophysics> check rsync.samba.org
[23:00] <Dominik> lifecurbed did you already respond to my last inquery, to sumerize modprobe -l lists the e1000e.ko but I can't unload it with rmmod e100e.ko it says e1000e does nto exist
 There is a good example for 7 day incremental backup at rsync home page http://www.samba.org/rsync/
[23:01] <gunavara> thanks
[23:01] <gherald> alguem q entende de formatos de video ae?
[23:01] <jim____> gunavara: also consider rdiff-backup &&
[23:01] <elli222> Resuming after a suspend remounts my root filesystem Read only. How can i fix this?
[23:01] <jim____> rdiff-backup --delete-older-than
[23:01] <guntbert> !es | gherald
[23:02] <gherald> ok
[23:02] <lifecurbed> dominik: so the rmmod wouldn't work?
[23:02] <gunavara> jim____,  is rdiff good how do u like it ?
[23:02] <gherald> I need someone who know about video format
[23:02] <Dominik> lifecurbed no it would not it says does not exist
[23:03] <guntbert> gherald: ask you question, if somebody knows an answer he will tell you
[23:03] <Dr_Willis> 'about video format' is a large topic
[23:03] <jim____> gunavara: rdiff-backup is rsync underneath, with additional stuff to make it more suitable for backup purposes
[23:03] <gunavara> sweet thanks i'll try it :)
[23:03] <gherald> wich is one video format lite
[23:03] <gherald> tha avi
[23:03] <gherald> than avi
[23:04] <gherald> lite video format...
[23:04] <Dr_Willis> gherald:  lite format? makes no sence...
[23:04] <Krstnsn`> .
[23:04] <gherald> I wanna convert my videos.avi
[23:04] <ruadh_>  /quit
[23:04] <gherald> to other...
[23:05] <Dr_Willis> gherald:  theres several tools that can do that.. check out winff for a gui
[23:05] <gherald> like raw
[23:05] <gherald> rmvb
[23:05] <guntbert> !enter | gherald
[23:05] <elli222> I want to play music during boot. i intend to accomplish this using runlevels, alsa-utils, pulseaudio and mpd. What is the highest prirority i can give alsautils?
[23:05] <Dr_Willis> gherald:  ive converted rmvb befor to avi/divx  - not that i gained much by doign it
[23:06] <xnox> what does "rc" status mean in "dpkg -l" output. Is it still installed and takes space on my harddrive? How do I list only installed packages in dpkg-query?
[23:06] <gherald> the avi files is taking very space on my HD
[23:07] <gherald> need other format the will take less space on hd
[23:07] <abbazabba> i just intalled a hard drive, how od i find out the name of it so i can format it?
[23:07] <elli222> gherald, can't you compress the file?
[23:07] <elli222> like, gzip -9 YOURFILE.XYZ?
[23:07] <gherald> yeah, but i don't know how to
[23:07] <Hajuu> Impossible..
[23:07] <elli222> and uncompress when you need it...
[23:07] <onyx> hey i need to open rar file
[23:07] <guntbert> abbazabba: sudo fdisk -l lists all hard disks
[23:08] <gherald> with the mencorder can i do it?
[23:08] <christopher_> what is a good tutorial for compiling the kernel
[23:09] <elli222> so you want a compressed format?
[23:09] <gherald> yeah
[23:09] <guntbert> !kernel | christopher_
[23:09] <Dominik> where can I find 9.10
[23:09] <guntbert> !karmic | Dominik
[23:09] <Dominik> i need the 9.10 dvd not the alternative install cd
[23:10]  * xnox sorry connection error. anyone answered my dpkg question?
[23:10] <christopher_> cool thanks
[23:10] <zleap> Dominik, 9.10 isn't out till october don't you mean 9.04
[23:10] <elli222> i have little expireence with mencoder
[23:10] <elli222> i know how to compress the files, but its not what your looking for...
[23:10] <gherald> wich u use?
[23:10] <Hajuu> Impossible..
[23:10] <EyePulp> yo ho ho
[23:10] <Dominik> zleap no I mean the beta
[23:12] <EyePulp> I'm doing guest-admin work on a remote box.  I need to find what service is being used to handle smtp (so I can then go edit the conf for it) - is there an easy way to test?
[23:12] <EyePulp> (i see nothing in top that looks correct)
[23:12] <zleap> ah
[23:12] <abbazabba> i just installed a new hard drive, how would i go about erasing it and reformating it?
[23:12] <edbian> abbazabba: :)
[23:13] <edbian> Do you have a live CD?
[23:13] <Paddy_EIRE> !gparted | abbazabba
[23:13] <edbian> abbazabba: Actually are you running ubuntu right now??
[23:13] <swivels> @abbazabba use fdisk if it is a slave drive
[23:13] <abbazabba> edbian: i am, it's a 2nd hard drive
[23:13] <abbazabba> i just tried fdisk
[23:13] <unop> EyePulp,  sudo netstat -antp | grep -i ":25 "
[23:13] <abbazabba> but it didn't really owrk
[23:13] <edbian> abbazabba: Do you have gparted?
[23:13] <swivels> apt-get install gparted
[23:13] <abbazabba> edbian: nah i'm about to download
[23:14] <edbian> abbazabba: From the repos correct?
[23:14] <EyePulp> unop - nice -- exim
[23:14] <abbazabba> edbian: from ﻿sudo apt-get install gparted
[23:14] <edbian> abbazabba: (that is the repos)  When it is done launch it (It's under system -> admin)
[23:15] <abbazabba> edbian: you read my mind, i was like "where did it show up?"
[23:15] <edbian> abbazabba: hehe it is one of the few that don't go to "applications"
[23:16] <heuqw> Hi do some one have a guide to get bluetooth handsfree work in ubuntu, i'm gonna use my device only on ventrilo /teamspeek. And all other sounds in the pc speakers.
[23:16] <edbian> abbazabba: Once you have it open it is pretty striaght forward GUI tool.  Just make sure that you aren't trying to change the 1st harddrive.  (Sometimes the naming is confusing).  What are you trying to accomplish with this second drive?
[23:16] <abbazabba> edbian: haha true true, understandable, looks like you could do a lot of damage with this
[23:17] <edbian> abbazabba: Yeah you could.  Just so you know though you can't alter a filesystem (partition) that is mounted
[23:17] <abbazabba> edbian: long story short, i have a 60 gig and just added a 20gig, i'm gonna move all my mp3s and movies to the 20gig, back up the important shit, then install ubuntu 9 on the 60 gig and just use the 20 for spare storage
[23:17] <guntbert> EyePulp: try lsof -i
[23:17] <abbazabba> edbian: yeah i knew =]
[23:18] <edbian> abbazabba: ok.  Do you want any more help?
[23:18] <gherald> need codec to convert files do mpeg2
[23:18] <usser> gherald, ffmpeg
[23:18] <abbazabba> edbian: it just did it's thing, now how do i remount it?
[23:18] <abbazabba> should i restart?
[23:18] <gherald> in terminal??
[23:19] <edbian> abbazabba: You don't need to restart.  You can use the mount command?  Would you like me to explain it or just give it to you?
[23:19] <rainwalker> I have an Nvidia Quadro, should I install the drivers Nvidia gives for my specific card or go with the one Ubuntu lists in the Restricted Drivers window?
[23:19] <usser> gherald, yea, you have to install it first, enable medibuntu repo and just install ffmpeg
[23:19] <usser> !medibuntu | gherald
[23:19] <deany> gherald, winff is a gui, available in the repos
[23:19] <gherald> ok
[23:19] <gherald> thx
[23:19] <edbian> abbazabba: "you can use the mount command" should not be a question
[23:19] <abbazabba> edbian: just give it to me first (thats what she said) and if i dont get it i'll ask
[23:21] <edbian> abbazabba: well first make a folder to mount it in (this is usually done in /media) so sudo mkdir /media/hdd2 (or something)
[23:21] <iluminator101> quick question whats the name of program that opens packages in ubuntu something like garchive or something
[23:21] <raylu> !archive
[23:21] <Joshua_Mayer> I am trying to install Ubuntu and I select install, then all this white text comes up, and then it stops on end trace and doesn't continue.
[23:21] <abbazabba> edbian: should it be sdb ?
[23:21] <jaydedrag0n> okay i have a weird question (sort of about windows) i have a friends laptop that is borked by a virus.. what i want to know is.. can i boot into the ubuntu liveCD.. install a virus program (cuz i know you can install stuff) and then do a full system scan and remove all the crap? or does it not work that way?
[23:21] <edbian> abbazabba: It doesn't have to be
[23:21] <abbazabba> edbian: ok made
[23:21] <edbian> abbazabba: It can be anything you want
[23:22] <raylu> jaydedrag0n: that would work
[23:22] <abbazabba> edbian: hdd2 it is
[23:22] <edbian> abbazabba: Than the actual mount command is sudo mount /dev/sdb<partition number> /media/hdd2
[23:22] <e0n`> there no 8.04 lpia?
[23:22] <usser> jaydedrag0n, yea sure, clamav is a pretty good virus scanner
[23:22] <edbian> abbazabba: Probably /dev/sdb1 if you only have 1 partition
[23:22] <CSSnub> So I'm trying to lockdown rbash a bit for a user's home directory and I mistakenly type "rm -rf .bash_login .bashrc .profile .bash_profile .bash_logout" in the home directory rather than the /home/user directory. If I'm trying to delete those files for that specific user but I instead did it in the home directory I deleted them for all users? I'm a bit beyond my abilities here obviously. Did...
[23:22] <CSSnub> ...I just break something?
[23:22] <Joshua_Mayer> I am trying to install Ubuntu and I select install, then all this white text comes up, and then it stops on end trace and doesn't continue.
[23:22] <abbazabba> there it is
[23:23] <jaydedrag0n> can i find clamav from synaptic or do i need to google it?
[23:23] <raylu> CSSnub: that shouldn't have deleted anything at all
[23:23] <CSSnub> ty
[23:23] <max_> Hi. I'm having a problem. I cant change to 12hr time. I set that in time/date as 12hr format, and my clock is in 12hr format, but all my programs that look to that to see time/date are all in 24 hour format.
[23:23] <raylu> jaydedrag0n: it's in the repositories
[23:23] <abbazabba> edbian: thank you very much.. one last silly question.. the hard drives are right on top of each other.. think i should worry about them overheating?
[23:23] <edbian> So now that partition (entire HDD in your case) is inside the /media/hdd2 folder
[23:23] <jaydedrag0n> rockin.. thanks all a bunch!!!
[23:23] <usser> CSSnub, whats the point of locking down bash? what are you trying to accomplish?
[23:23] <raylu> CSSnub: the default rcs and profiles are in /etc/.../skel/ somewhere
[23:23] <edbian> abbazabba: Not unless they are physically touching (even then not really)
[23:23] <greg> max_ - what programs?
[23:23] <Joshua_Mayer> Anyone help me?
[23:24] <abbazabba> edbian: they have this rubber sleeve like thin which is touchin
[23:24] <max_> greg: Konversation, Pidgin.
[23:24] <fuzzybunny69y> hey everyone Frostwire keeps crashing whenever I launch it. I am using Jaunty and have java 6 installed this is the error log it generates on startup: http://pastebin.com/d58be7a35
[23:24] <edbian> abbazabba: I wouldn't worry about it.  If they do overheat all that happens is your system shuts down automatically.  If that happens get a bigger case / more fans / move them apart.
[23:24] <gherald> s
[23:24] <greg> max_ - is the individual settings relating to time no in the program preferences themselves?
[23:24] <sebsebseb> Joshua_Mayer: can you be more specific
[23:24] <sebsebseb> Joshua_Mayer: how are you trying to install it?
[23:24] <max_> greg: no, they all just look at the time/date set by the computer
[23:25] <Joshua_Mayer> Fresh install of the Desktop ISO
[23:25] <abbazabba> edbian: i just opened it up and there was a folder that said lost+found.. just tried opening it but it said i didn't have permissions.. i'm assuming the best way to get to them is through nautilus?
[23:25] <sebsebseb> Joshua_Mayer: when you have the live session booted up?
[23:25] <jophish> is it possible to synchronise two mplayer windows, so the video starts at the same time
[23:25] <edbian> abbazabba: hang on one second
[23:25] <CSSnub> I have a user bob who can ssh into /home/bob - I've set his shell to rbash so he can't change directories. *But* he can still vi and :shell=/bin/bash :shell to poke around.
[23:25] <Joshua_Mayer> You mean how am I booting up the live session?
[23:25] <bomex> if I want to use ubuntu on my server instead of windows, what is the replacement for active directory and domain controller that is standard in windows server?
[23:25] <sebsebseb> Joshua_Mayer: well the installer on it sure
[23:25] <abbazabba> edbian: and that's good to know, i just didn't want to start a fire while i was gone
[23:25] <iluminator101> quick question whats the name of program that opens packages in ubuntu something like garchive or something
[23:26] <sebsebseb> Joshua_Mayer: the Live session works?  ,but then you get a problem with the installer?
[23:26] <CSSnub> I want him to have access to his home directory and any subdirectories only
[23:26] <linuxguy2009> Hello again everyone, I have yet another one, I am thinking of restoring my fresh install backup of 9.04 and then making sure the package cache is empty on my hdd, and then install all current updates.Then after that I want to use my Nero Linux 3 to create a multisession Ubuntu 9.04 Updates CD-R with nothing but update packages collected about every few weeks or just once a month when they start realy adding up.My question is when new p
[23:26] <binarymutant> jophish, maybe mplayer <file> && mplayer <file>   not sure if it will work though
[23:26] <Joshua_Mayer> Live Session and the installer both get stuck on the same thing.
[23:26] <jophish> thanks
[23:26] <sebsebseb> Joshua_Mayer: which is?
[23:26] <e0n`> hmmm I am not finding the lpia binaries for 8.04 anywhere
[23:26] <e0n`> can someone link me to it?
[23:27] <abbazabba> edbian: i just went to media and tried to change the permissions but they are all stuck on root
[23:27] <abbazabba> i have an idea
[23:27] <edbian> abbazabba: The lost + found folder is part of the ext3 filesystem.  It is used when the system crashes.  Linux tries to throw as much stuff in there as possible so that it can be recovered when you reboot.  Don't change the permissions
[23:27] <sebsebseb> Joshua_Mayer: your  error sounded a bit hum
[23:27] <Joshua_Mayer> ---[ end trace 4eaa2a86a8e2da22 ]---
[23:27] <Joshua_Mayer> It stops on that.
[23:28] <sebsebseb> Joshua_Mayer: yeah sounds like an odd error, I have no idea what that is? do you?  could Google that
[23:28] <jophish> binarymutant, that doesn't seem to run them in parallel
[23:28] <edbian> abbazabba: To change the permissions for the rest of the drive (so that you can make new folders / place things alongside lost + found) I can give you another command.  Do you want me to explain it or just give it to you??
[23:28] <iluminator101> quick question whats the name of program that opens packages in ubuntu something like garchive or something
[23:28] <sebsebseb> Joshua_Mayer: so  basic quetion time.  How much RAM?   Which graphics card do you have?
[23:29] <linuxguy2009> Ok i guess I should have shortend that. If I use sudo dpkg -i *.deb within a folder, will dpkg ignore all old package versions in the folder and only install the newest ones?
[23:29] <edbian> iluminator101: synaptic?  What do you mean "open packages?"
[23:29] <Joshua_Mayer> I have 512 ram and a I think I just have a VGA adapter for graphics.
[23:29] <usser> CSSnub, hm why would you not let him poke around, whats the harm in that? he cant modify system files, and any private data of other users etc should be protected by permissions anyhow
[23:29] <abbazabba> edbian: i just went in as root and changed the permissions for hdd2 hahaha, made it so everybody outside of root could access and change everything (its fine i'm the only one that uses it)
[23:29] <sebsebseb> Joshua_Mayer: how big is the partition it's trying to install on?
[23:29] <Joshua_Mayer> Um, hang on. I'll find out.
[23:29] <edbian> abbazabba: That's fine.  I was going to tell you how to make yourself the owner.  (essentially the same thing for you)
[23:29] <iluminator101> edbian:opens packages like tar.gz or tar or any compressed packages like that
[23:29] <usser> CSSnub, about the only thing i'd do if you dont want him to write scripts is put his home folder on a separate partition and mount it with -noexec option
[23:30] <abbazabba> edbian: i think i might already be the owner but if you want lay it on me
[23:30] <abbazabba> if not it's cool
[23:30] <edbian> iluminator101: There is the archive manager that will extract them (but won't compile or install the software
[23:30] <smacktalk> anyone here use xorp?
[23:30] <CSSnub> usser - so the files are by default unchangeable? I'm just trying to secure my system as much as possible and I obviously know very little about security.
[23:30] <edbian> abbazabba: sudo chown abbazabba /media/hdd2
[23:30] <iluminator101> edbian:can tell me what archive manager is called exactly
[23:31] <caecus> Hi, is anyone there to help me debug a CIFS issue specific with ubuntu?
[23:31] <edbian> iluminator101: file-roller
[23:31] <usser> CSSnub, yes all files outside of his home directory are read-only for him, provided he doesnt have sudo permissions
[23:31] <iluminator101> than edbian
[23:31] <Joshua_Mayer> Ok. I am installing it on 15gb partition.
[23:31] <edbian> iluminator101: NP
[23:31] <binarymutant> jophish, try mplayer <file> & mplayer <file>
[23:31] <edbian> abbazabba: Do you have any more questions?
[23:31] <sebsebseb> Joshua_Mayer: humm
[23:32] <usser> CSSnub, -noexec option basically forbids him from writing his own scripts in his home directory and executing them
[23:32] <abbazabba> edbian: i want a better computer. where can i rob one and get off scott free?
[23:32] <edbian> abbazabba: lmao.  Tiger Direct?
[23:32] <sebsebseb> Joshua_Mayer: your installing in a virtual machine?
[23:32] <Joshua_Mayer> Yes.
[23:32] <abbazabba> edbian: alright i'm gonna buy the panty hose for my face meet me there at 1130 haha
[23:32] <saif> hello please i can't make work my bleutooth using ubuntu on my laptop and i dont know what to do
[23:32] <abbazabba> thanks alot man enjoy!
[23:32] <jophish> binarymutant, That just ones one window, it snot a problem though, I fixed it by getting the videos to loop, and pausing one to let the other catch up
[23:32] <sebsebseb> Joshua_Mayer: I googled your error on Google, and that's how I found out
[23:33] <sebsebseb> Joshua_Mayer: that's the kind of thing you should have told me, when  I was asking basic questions
[23:33] <edbian> abbazabba: ??  I am not part of this.
[23:33] <CSSnub> usser - ty. I'm also having a hard time logging in with sftp. Filezilla says I've connected but then gives error "Fatal: unable to initialise SFTP on server: could not connect". Is there something I need to do to install SFTP? Isn't SFTP just using SSH (which I've installed)?
[23:33] <usser> CSSnub, unfortunately noexec only works per partition. you dont want to mount your / or /home partitions with noexec it'll break stuff.
[23:33] <jophish> this is just temporary before I stitch them properly
[23:33] <iluminator101> edbian:negative thats not it....what i mean is what is program that executes extract here when you right click
[23:33] <jophish> thanks for you help anyway
[23:33] <Joshua_Mayer> Sorry. I didn't think it mattered.
[23:33] <sebsebseb> Joshua_Mayer: well I was thinking, what is this trace error, never heard of this, so wanted to Google and find out, which I suggested you did as well a little while ago
[23:33] <usser> CSSnub, yes sftp is part of ssh, try using putty for sftp if you're connecting from windows machine. or sftp from linux. it gives more descriptive errors
[23:34] <sebsebseb> Joshua_Mayer: which virtual machine program?
[23:34] <foureight84> what type of timestamp is this? 2009-05-22T08:41:41.6603414+10:00
[23:34] <Joshua_Mayer> Windows Virtual PC 2007
[23:34] <edbian> iluminator101: What happens if you open file roller and then try to open that folder? (the .tar.gz one)
[23:34] <sebsebseb> Joshua_Mayer:  oh dear
[23:34] <iluminator101> its fileroller thanks
[23:34] <Joshua_Mayer> I'll download another one.
[23:34] <sebsebseb> Joshua_Mayer: well it's the Microsoft one, also the first link that came up was to do with it
[23:35] <sebsebseb> Joshua_Mayer: Virtualbox :)
[23:35] <iluminator101> i am on debian...i used to use ubuntu.
[23:35] <edbian> iluminator101: Problem solved??
[23:35] <iluminator101> yes thanks
[23:35] <edbian> iluminator101: Doesn't debian rock?!?!
[23:35] <usser> indeed
[23:35] <edbian> iluminator101: NP
[23:35] <sebsebseb> Joshua_Mayer: yes try Virtualbox, why in a vm by the way?
[23:35] <usser> debian rocks
[23:35] <edbian> :D
[23:35] <sebsebseb> Joshua_Mayer: ideally Windows should be in a vm, or no Windows at all :d
[23:35] <Joshua_Mayer> I'm just want to test Ubuntu before I dual boot with windiws
[23:36] <sebsebseb> Joshua_Mayer: I know vm's can be good to try out OS's that you haven't used before, but  I hope you put Ubuntu or another distro on your computer for real
[23:36] <iluminator101> debian is awesome...but there is a much bigger learning curve than ubuntu
[23:36] <CSSnub> usser - Putty will let me SSH in without errors
[23:36] <sebsebseb> Joshua_Mayer: well depending on what Windows programs you want to use,  you may not even need to dual boot Windows, because a virtual machine will do it
[23:36] <edbian> iluminator101: yeah.  You need to know linux and not just ubuntu :D
[23:36] <CSSnub> which is not exactly my goal - I want them to use an ftp client
[23:36] <foureight84> 2009-05-22T08:41:41.6603414+10:00 i can see that this is a utc / posix style but i don't know what the +10 is
[23:36] <Joshua_Mayer> If I like it in the VM, I will be putting it on my computer.
[23:36] <Joshua_Mayer> Cya
[23:36] <iluminator101> i know i am working on it edbian
[23:37] <CSSnub> oh sorry :( didn't see the sftp client
[23:37] <david__> does linux use the amd dual core optimizer?
[23:37] <usser> iluminator101, not if you start with debian. its all oh so very nice, no hand holding no files getting modified without your permissions just cause ubuntu thinks its ok to mess with configurations
[23:37] <sebsebseb> edbian  illuminator101   indeed  Linux is way more than just Ubuntu
[23:37] <usser> CSSnub, filezilla is an ftp client? yea it wont work with sftp. sorry i never used filezilla
[23:37] <edbian> yeah
[23:37] <usser> CSSnub, there's tons of gui clients for sftp as well
[23:38] <iluminator101> i know usser i went from mint to ubuntu to debian....it progression and work in progress
[23:38] <CoJaBo-Aztec> Does anyone know when the 3.0.11 version of FF will be out in the package manager?
[23:38] <edbian> iluminator101: How is mint?
[23:38] <heuqw> Hi do some one have a guide to get bluetooth handsfree work in ubuntu, i'm gonna use my device only on ventrilo /teamspeek. And all other sounds in the pc speakers.
[23:39] <usser> CSSnub, here you go http://winscp.net/eng/docs/screenshots
[23:39] <iluminator101> edbian:mint is for grannies
[23:39] <sebsebseb> !ot |  edbian and iluminator101
[23:39] <chomwitt> in jaunty network remix in a netbook i can see the desktop icons (home,trash..) with changing gconf-edit's nautilus-desktop options
[23:39] <racecar56> what is the last ati radeon 9xxx to support open drivers?
[23:39] <chomwitt> cant
[23:40] <edbian> sebsebseb: Yeah yeah yeah.  Mint is LIKE ubuntu.  Close enough right??
[23:40] <CSSnub> usser - OK Putty gives me the same error. "Fatal: unable to initialise SFTP: could not connect"
[23:40] <sebsebseb> edbian: it's based on Ubuntu
[23:40] <CoJaBo-Aztec> Does anyone know when the 3.0.11 version of FF will be out in the package manager?
[23:40] <CSSnub> Yet I can still SSH in
[23:40] <dahump> Can anyone help a noob with a networking question?
[23:40] <sebsebseb> CoJaBo-Aztec: it might not be
[23:40] <CoJaBo-Aztec> ?
[23:40] <racecar56> CoJaBo-Aztec, they are testing, it will come soon
[23:40] <sebsebseb> CoJaBo-Aztec: they might have put the patches into 3.0.10 or something
[23:41] <sebsebseb> CoJaBo-Aztec: Ubuntu only do security updates in the repo
[23:41] <sebsebseb> CoJaBo-Aztec: and then newer programs each release
[23:41] <sebsebseb> CoJaBo-Aztec: versions of, or ppa's or whatever for those that know how to install later stuff themselves
[23:41] <Hajuu> Impossible..
[23:41] <Flannel> sebsebseb: 3.0.0.11 is a security update.  It'll be done.
[23:42] <racecar56> 3.0.11
[23:42] <XeNiX> hello all i tried to fix my compiz and i think i did a mistake :s kde is not running when i do startx  it is fvwm who run anyone can help me
[23:42] <Flannel> right, sorry.
[23:42] <maxman> does anybody use Pavilion dv5?
[23:42] <sebsebseb> Flannel: yep that's what I thought, but I think at least once,  the number stayed on some older number,  when  Firefox was on two or more later numbers
[23:42] <wolfgang> i have a question about se linux, it doesn't come installed in ubuntu right? also will it password protect folders?
[23:42] <racecar56> you forgot how the 3's removed a 0
[23:42] <fivetwentysix> Is there a ubuntu package for firefox 3.5?
[23:42] <usser> CSSnub, hm that is weird, maybe it has something to do with rbash setup that you did so far?
[23:42] <racecar56> maybe in the universe
[23:42] <sebsebseb> fivetwentysix: I think there's a ppa
[23:42] <CoJaBo-Aztec> .11 fixes some pretty severe issues, so I ccertainly hope it would get releases ASAP.
[23:43] <racecar56> fivetwentysix, there IS a ppa
[23:43] <Flannel> sebsebseb: That's just version numbers internal to Ubuntu, doesn't make much difference
[23:43] <racecar56> fivetwentysix, ubuntu-tweak is one way...
[23:43] <sebsebseb> Flannel: ah ok
[23:43] <DFade> wolfgang: anything is doable ;)
[23:43] <XeNiX> anyone can help me please
[23:44] <sebsebseb> XeNiX: with what?
[23:44] <kbrosnan> fivetwentysix: you can download from mozilla.com and run it from your home folder as well
[23:44] <XeNiX> why when i do startx it is fvwm who start and not kde ?
[23:44] <imatech> anyone here use xorp?  i'm getting an error that Failed to connect to the router manager
[23:44] <fivetwentysix> kbrosnan, but I won't have flash support
[23:44] <usser> XeNiX, whats in your ~/.xinitrc file?
[23:44] <arthur_> i have a question about bios passwords? where can i find out how to reset the master password on a pheoeix bios i am locked out ... help forgot password
[23:44] <david__> oh I need help making Ubuntu 9.04 see my dvd burner
[23:44] <sebsebseb> arthur_: try ##hardware
[23:44] <arthur_> ty
[23:44] <sebsebseb> np
[23:45] <DFade> arthur_: you'll probably have to reach for the jumper pin on your mother board
[23:45] <XeNiX> usser : nothing it dont existe :s
[23:45] <kbrosnan> fivetwentysix: plugins won't be an issue. though mozilla only creates builds for 32-bit. so if you are on x64 ppa
[23:45] <arthur_> its a laptop......
[23:45] <aleskandro> hi all
[23:45] <racecar56> hi
[23:46] <XeNiX> anyone can help ?
[23:46] <XeNiX> xconf is not working i dont know why :s
[23:46] <DFade> arthur_: personally, I'd contact the supplier and ask for the default password, if it's of any use
[23:46] <usser> XeNiX, theres also a global initialization script somewhere in /etc/X11
[23:46] <racecar56> XeNiX, more info
[23:46] <david__> i need help making my dvd burner show up in Ubuntu 9.04
[23:46] <aleskandro> I've a intel gm965 video card, when I run glxinfo it say that Direct Rendering is enabled but if I try to do compiz --replace, I receive glx not present, why?
[23:46] <sebsebseb> !intel | aleskandro
[23:47] <Dimitree> Help ... I tryed to install Phpbb3 with Synaptic on a fresh ubuntu desktop and after giving password for the MySQL it returned an error "Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket", now even when i installed Xchat it spowned the MySQL configuration GUI, which after being aborted it installed Xchat.Can someone try to install LAMP or Phpbb3 on 9.04 and tell me what's wrong with it and how to fix it ?
[23:47] <XeNiX> i tried to fix compiz coz the ccsm is not running , i dont know what i do on synaptic , and now when i do startx on each reboot it is fvwm who run not kde :s
[23:47] <aleskandro> sebsebseb, thanks a lot
[23:47] <sebsebseb> Dimitree: try #php
[23:47] <dahump> I can see my windows network and my other pc's but when I double-click on them I get the error message "Unable to mount location - Failed to retrieve share list from server". I have been able to mount the location in the past.
[23:47] <sebsebseb> aleskandro: np
[23:48] <Dimitree> sebsebseb: are they responsible for the Phpbb3 packages and configs provided in the ubuntu repository ?
[23:48] <sebsebseb> aleskandro: well I was just guessing that whatever that is,  is to do with your issue
[23:48] <sebsebseb> Dimitree: no
[23:48] <XeNiX> anyone can help me ?
[23:48] <Dimitree> sebsebseb: then what's my business there ?
[23:48] <usser> XeNiX, just put startkde in your ~/.xinitrc
[23:49] <sebsebseb> Dimitree: Ubuntu just put in PHP and such from upstream I think
[23:49] <sebsebseb> Dimitree: people here also aren't responisble for what goes in the repo
[23:49] <sebsebseb> Dimitree: maybe you want #ubuntu-devel or something
[23:49] <Flannel> sebsebseb: That's not what his question is about at all.
[23:49] <XeNiX> usser: ~/.xinitrc dont existe
[23:49] <Dimitree> sebsebseb: ok i will try my luck there thanks
[23:49] <usser> XeNiX, create it
[23:49] <dahump> Noob here. In Ubuntu 9.04 I can see my windows network and my other pc's but when I double-click on them I get the error message "Unable to mount location - Failed to retrieve share list from server". I have been able to mount the location a few days ago, but I don't know what changed. Any advice?
[23:49] <sebsebseb> Dimitree: wait
[23:49] <sebsebseb> Dimitree: Flannel may be able to help
[23:49] <Dimitree> ok waiting
[23:50] <Flannel> Dimitree: Did you follow the instructions here (about setting up a MySQL root password, etc): https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[23:50] <DFade> dahump: I'd go for a Samba network :)
[23:50] <david__> need ubuntu 9.04 to see my dvd burner
[23:50] <Dimitree> Flannel: my question is "Why the package for LAMP and/or Phpbb3 in the repository is broken and doesnt work" :)
[23:50] <dahump> I set up Samba so I could share my ubuntu home directory and it works great.
[23:51] <XeNiX> usser : can u gimme an exemple pastebin.ca
[23:51] <XeNiX> :s
[23:51] <Dimitree> Flannel this password is required during installation process
[23:51] <usser> Dimitree, yea its a sad state of affairs, phpbb is not the only one, gallery2 is broken beyond belief on jaunty
[23:51] <sjlkg> hi, does anyone know how to permanently disable the "consider recommended packages as dependencies" option in synaptic?
[23:51] <Hajuu> Impossible..
[23:51] <usser> XeNiX, http://pastebin.com/f7849acf9
[23:52] <Dimitree> Flannel: but after providing the passwords it spowns the error "Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket" and asks for abort retry and so on, when closed, i can't even Uninstall the whole thing because the configuration dialog appears all the time evenw hen removing it
[23:52] <Flannel> Dimitree: Have you tested PHP/MySQL separately from phpbb3?
[23:52] <usser> XeNiX, thats my .xinitrc see last line it launches the window manager, you can skip everything and have just one line startkde in it
[23:53] <Dimitree> Flannel: right now i can't "test" anything related to PHP MYSQL and so on, simply because i Can't even remove the LAMP packages, as i said it spowns the configuration dialog, it spowns this dialog even when i installed Xchat right now
[23:53] <dahump> Noob here. In Ubuntu 9.04 I can see my windows network and my other pc's but when I double-click on them I get the error message "Unable to mount location - Failed to retrieve share list from server". I was previously able to mount the drive after being prompted for username and password. Then, I installed Samba so I could view Ubuntu home directory from Windows network. Could that be the problem? Also, it seems like I used to have
[23:53] <dahump> a menu item called "Accessing Remote Systems", or something like that.
[23:53] <Dimitree> Flannel: and this is on a fresh ubuntu desktop install, and this is the second install btw i reinstalled it just to make sure i didnt do something wrong
[23:54] <Dimitree> Flannel: just go to Synaptec and try to install LAMP or Phpbb3 package to see what i mean
[23:54] <VCoolio> usser: sometimes you end a line with &, sometimes not; what's the rule?
[23:54] <Brandano> hello, I am trying to cross-compile mplayer 32 bit on an amd64 with 8.10 multilib etc. managed just fine in the past, but currently I am having trouble because I am missing zlib. Is there a package for multilib that provides it?
[23:54] <Flannel> Dimitree: I've already got LAMP installed, and I'm also on 8.04, so that wouldn't work.  What dialog is this that comes up with whatever package management stuff you do?
[23:54] <XeNiX> usser : let me try
[23:54] <DFade> dahump: your Windows Samba shares setup alright?
[23:54] <Dimitree> usser: are these packages ok on the previous version of ubuntu ?
[23:55] <aleskandro> but is  not there ctrl+alt+backspace function in jaunty?
[23:55] <Flannel> !dont zap | aleskandro
[23:55] <Flannel> !dontzap | aleskandro
[23:55] <Dimitree> Flannel the dialoge where you set MYSQL password, Database password, and so on passwords
[23:55] <usser> VCoolio, & puts the program in the background, some programs terminate, some run indefinetely if the program that is run indefinetely is not put in the background it will take over the shell and prevent other programs from being executed
[23:55] <Flannel> Dimitree: and, do you do input them?
[23:56] <usser> Dimitree, nope also broken
[23:56] <Flannel> Dimitree: I've never seen that dialog before.  Is this for phpbb3?
[23:56] <Dimitree> usser: should i install Ubuntu server with LAMP and then add the desktop enviroment will that work ?
[23:56] <XeNiX> usser: is not working cause startkde is not found :s
[23:56] <racecar56> VCoolio, e.g. 'firefox' will run firefox but you can't execute stuff in that shell until firefox is completely done
[23:56] <Dimitree> Flannel: one sec i will give a screenshot
[23:56] <raylu> usser, VCoolio: you can stop an already-running program with ctrl+z and then run it in the background with bg
[23:56] <Flannel> Dimitree: It'll be the same thing.  Lets just fix this one.
[23:57] <usser> XeNiX, you sure you havent uninstalled kde by any chance
[23:57] <XeNiX> usser: let me re install it ?
[23:57] <racecar56> VCoolio, firefox & makes a 'job', you can use the shell for other stuff but the output of firefox will be put there
[23:57] <Flannel> sjlkg: I'm not sure if you can do it via synaptic, but it is in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/01ubuntu
[23:57] <XeNiX> usser: maybe cause i played with kde packages:s
[23:57] <usser> Dimitree, i had no problems with installing lamp, i'd suggest do a standard lamp install then get phpbb from the maintainers site
[23:57] <Flannel> sjlkg: that is, you can do it there.
[23:58] <raylu> racecar56: how do you prevent the output from showing up without redirecting to null or similar?
[23:58] <fixxxermet> Hi everyone.  Just upgraded my e1000 driver to 8.0.9.  After rebooting, lshw says the driverversion is back to 7.3.21.  How can I keep the new driver after reboot?
[23:58] <racecar56> raylu, not sure
[23:58] <VCoolio> racecar56: i know but this was about xinitrc; why doesn't conky need an & then? I assume that is run permanently?
[23:59] <usser> Dimitree, the gallery2 from packages was very quirky as soon as i killed and installed the version from the site it worked smoothly
[23:59] <usser> VCoolio, conky goes into background automatically
[23:59] <racecar56> VCoolio, yeah... i guess
[23:59] <VCoolio> ah I see, nice. Ok, thx for the update
[23:59] <XeNiX> !paste