[01:37] <unitheory> is there any way in xubuntu to display password dialogs as normal windows?
[02:02] <unitheory> nevermind i figured it out
[02:02] <n2diy>  I just did an install of 8.10, and then updated/upgraded to 9.04, and I don't have a shutdown option in my system menu!?
[02:03] <unitheory> but it wasn't easy!
[02:03] <unitheory> xfce still doesn't have a menu editor
[02:03] <unitheory> n2diy, try the power button ;]
[02:04] <n2diy> unitheory: your joking, I hope?
[02:04] <unitheory> well when you press the power button it will ask you what you want
[02:05] <n2diy> unitheory: ah, I didn't know that, let me give it a try, thanks.
[02:06] <unitheory> is there a logout option in the menu? because you can use that to shutdown also
[02:11] <stephen87> hello
[02:11] <unitheory> greetings
[02:11] <stephen87> how are you?
[02:12] <unitheory> great, and yourself?
[02:13] <stephen87> good, spent the last 2 days trying to get xubuntu installed, finally got it done and came back to thank the person helped me earlier
[02:14] <unitheory> 2 days? wow you're pretty persistant
[02:16] <stephen87> not like i didnt sleep or eat or anything
[02:18] <stephen87> os x was too much for this computer...xubuntu seems a little much for it
[02:18] <stephen87> it has 2 2.25ghz processors, but only 256mb of ram...
[02:19] <n2diy> unitheory: ok, that worked, but is there a way to add the shutdown command to the system menu?
[02:19] <unitheory> 256mb should be plenty for xubuntu
[02:19] <unitheory> n2diy, yes...
[02:20] <n2diy> unitheory: ok, I think I've seen menu edit somewhere before, let me hunt it down, 73.
[02:20] <stephen87> is there a way to check and see if xubuntu can see both my processors?
[02:20] <n2diy> stephen87: lshw
[02:21] <unitheory> stephen87, the easiest way is just open applications > system > system monitor
[02:21] <unitheory> stephen87, it will show your processors under the system tab and the load under the resources tab.  but gnome-system-monitor is a beast
[02:23] <stephen87> "*-cpu:1 DISABLED"
[02:25] <n2diy> stephen87: what version of Ubuntu are you running?
[02:25] <stephen87> xubuntu 9.04 ppc
[02:26] <n2diy> stephen87: ppc... a Mac?
[02:26] <stephen87> yes
[02:27] <n2diy> stephen87: Haven't played with them, but back in the Dapper days, I had to run an smp kernel on Intel machines.
[02:27] <stephen87> ok
[02:29] <n2diy> stephen87: is this a multi-core machine, or discrete cpu's?
[02:29] <stephen87> discrete
[02:30] <n2diy> stephen87: ok, that is what I played with, an smp kernel is the way to go.
[02:31] <stephen87> cool, and i can just aptget one and all should be well yes?
[02:32] <n2diy> stephen87: once you I'd the kernel you need, apt-get install should work, and then reboot, of course.
[02:32] <stephen87> sweet :) thanks
[02:33] <n2diy> I'd/IDed, gl.
[02:34] <unitheory> n2diy, this site might help http://bimma.me.uk/2009/04/25/how-to-xfce-46-menu-edit-in-xubuntu-904-jaunty/
[02:34] <stephen87> i understood, im getting right now
[02:34] <unitheory> n2diy, you're missing the <Filename>xfce4-logout.desktop</Filename> part
[02:35] <n2diy> unitheory: thanks, checking it out now.
[02:45] <stephen87> thank you for the help everything is much much faster now
[02:47] <unitheory> :D
[03:22] <maxone71> hello all can you install ubuntu 9.04 on a ps3
[03:22] <maxone71> hello anyone
[03:23] <Raggs> maxone71, i wouldnt doubt it, but why/.
[03:24] <maxone71> how come ubuntu site dosn't have any info on installing it on a ps3
[03:24] <Raggs> maxone71, i havent a clue
[04:02] <erik__> hi all
[04:02] <unitheory> hi!
[04:03] <erik__> i was curious if the rox desktop wud work on xubuntu
[04:05] <TheSheep> no reason why it wouldn't
[04:05] <unitheory> what the heck is rox desktop
[04:05] <erik__> ok
[04:05] <erik__> im still new to linux
[04:06] <erik__> xubuntu seems to be
[04:06] <erik__> very good os
[04:07] <unitheory> i run it on my tablet but i prefer ubuntu but much better than windows in any case imo
[04:07] <anom01y> anyone here have an iTouch  and use it with Xubuntu ?
[04:07] <unitheory> why use rox desktop?
[04:08] <erik__> xubuntu runs good amd 2400 with 512 mb ram
[04:08] <Raggs> i think rox is a flile manager
[04:08] <Raggs> file
[04:08] <unitheory> it's a desktop environment
[04:09] <erik__> im not sure if extra ram would help
[04:09] <erik__> the system is fast enough
[04:10] <Raggs> unitheory, it is both it seems
[04:12] <erik__> wud the extra 512 mb help
[04:12] <erik__> im not into gaming
[04:58] <MikeChelen> more ram is always better
[04:59] <MikeChelen> even for things like firefox
[04:59] <MikeChelen> xubuntu runs great even with 512mb, but it will still help :)
[06:43] <KillerX> anyone awake?
[07:25] <tavasti> _o/
[07:26] <tavasti> blaah, he left
[09:23] <Dervish> hey
[09:23] <Dervish> can i put this on a 4gb usb flash drive?
[10:49] <Vasa> hi
[10:49] <Vasa> i'm trying to install xubuntu
[10:50] <Vasa> I want to boot from a 8mb SD card
[10:50] <Vasa> is tha possible?
[10:55] <Vasa> anyone here?
[10:58] <kora>  hi, is there any convenient way to grab keycodes for the xmodmap? i have a thinkpad and want to map the "browser forwar/backwar" buttons to home/end with xmodmap.
[12:19] <premorphos> i give this command:  bluetooth-browse .output is: Couldn't execute command: nautilus --no-default-window "obex://[00:12:37:FD:78:EB]"... any one got a clue
[12:19] <premorphos> ?
[12:20] <premorphos> ps im trying to access a nokia
[12:21] <premorphos> or does any one have a good solution. i need to browse and control several phones
[12:30] <homebrewcider> hey there, lost my applications (kicker panel) icon, can someone tell me where it's kept please.
[12:42] <premorphos> homebrew: do you meen the xfce panel?
[12:44] <homebrewcider> yes
[12:45] <premorphos> it is under applications settings settingsmanneger
[12:45] <homebrewcider> all the other icons are okay, what I meant was I inserted a new one i downloaded, but I want the other one back
[12:46] <homebrewcider> are using using the xfce desktop
[12:47] <ringo999> what is the keyboard shortcut for locking the screen on xfce? or where do i set that up?
[12:48] <homebrewcider> can someone, anyone do me a favour please
[12:48] <homebrewcider>  right click on applications, go to properties, and where it says "icons" "button icon" click on the folder to the right, and tell me the path where the default icon is please.
[12:49] <premorphos> homebrew: just right click on the luncher and go to properties and go to. home/yorename/.thumbnails/normal/
[12:51] <homebrewcider> nothing of use there
[12:51] <hateball> Is Xubuntu dependent on evolution-data-server?
[12:53] <homebrewcider> can someone using xfce right click on applications, go to properties, and where it says "icons" "button icon" click on the folder to the right, and tell me the path where the default icon is please.
[12:53] <premorphos> homebrew: that is the path
[12:54] <homebrewcider> mate, I've looked in there, there is no icons at all, just thumbnails of photos
[12:54] <premorphos> ok button icon: /usr/share/pixmaps/
[12:56] <premorphos> odd cus my icons are located by default there
[12:59] <Raggs> anyone here using Icecat?
[14:13] <DetroitLibertyPe> I used to be able to just plug my external harddrive into my firewire and an icon would pop up on the desktop, now its not happening, and it's not showing in /media/ any ideas what I'm doing wrong?
[14:20] <Raggs> DetroitLibertyPe, does it show up in dmesg?
[14:24] <Carlis> Charlie-tca ?
[14:26] <Carlis> Charlie-tca: I want to tell me that the solution you gave me it worked. Thanks for your help
[14:26] <Carlis> Bye
[14:30] <DetroitLibertyPe> raggs...i'm not familar with dmesg
[14:30] <firsm> Hehe, ubuntu's home directory encryption thingy sets /home/whatever to 775 instead of 755 causing ssh pubkey auth to not work.
[14:32] <Raggs> DetroitLibertyPe, what brand hdd is it?
[14:32] <DetroitLibertyPe> miloxar?
[14:40] <DetroitLibertyPe> dmesg "|" grep the "|" is the shift and the backspace, right?
[14:40] <Raggs> the pipe | is just below the backspace
[14:41] <Raggs> the grep command searches
[16:17] <psycho_oreos> if I do a dist-upgrade from ibex to jaunty, can I expect a clean upgrade or will there be issues? I am fine with a few minor issues but if its as bad as dist-upgrading from back around 2006ish then I'll probably do a clean install instead
[16:21] <durt> psycho_oreos, you do know about upgrade manager right?
[16:21] <psycho_oreos> durt, nope lol, I guess I'm too used to apt-get dist-upgrade
[16:23] <durt> upgrade manager will solve most of the upgrade issues in regards to obsolete packages and default apps getting changed etc.
[16:23] <durt> !upgrade
[16:23] <psycho_oreos> thanks :)
[16:23] <durt> that last link is the one with upgrade instructions
[16:34] <PDG1> ron_o are you there
[17:19] <MTecknology> What does xubuntu use for the network manager applet?
[17:20] <SiDi> hm, nm-applet
[17:20] <SiDi> the same
[17:20] <MTecknology> oh
[17:21] <MTecknology> It uses xfce4-power-manager right? I tried using that instead but I lost screen brightness control. How does xfce manage the screen brightness?
[17:21] <SiDi> No, we use gnome-power-manager
[17:21] <MTecknology> oh...
[17:21] <SiDi> xfce4-power-manager works here too, though
[17:21] <MTecknology> I'm trying to find light weight alternatives that have fewer dependencies
[17:22] <SiDi> there are more or less the same, but since the ubuntu guys maintain g-p-m and make sure it works well, its less risky for us to use this one
[17:22] <SiDi> and it has the sexy notifications :)
[17:22] <MTecknology> the sexy notifications are from osd-notify
[17:23] <MTecknology> gnome-power-manager, nm-applet, and openbox are my heaviest apps (aside from firefox). I'm trying to figure out how to trim the fat off those
[17:23] <SiDi> but it requires support from apps. and g-p-m supports these notifications
[17:23] <SiDi> openbox.. huh
[17:24] <MTecknology> ya, I built this system from a cli install
[17:26] <MTecknology> SiDi: I'm trying to make the leanest meanest machine possible
[17:26] <MTecknology> thinner than debian, faster than gentoo :P
[17:27] <MTecknology> I think my installs are almsot done - after than I'll reboot into karmic
[17:27] <MTecknology> I'm excited to try out the latest kernel
[17:27] <SiDi> heh
[17:27] <SiDi> read the ubuntu.com page before
[17:27] <MTecknology> why?
[17:28] <SiDi> there are two known bugs that can be annoying
[17:28] <PDG1> yeah... I installed u-lite last night on this craptop
[17:28] <SiDi> especially if you have several OSes, grub2 wont install
[17:29] <MTecknology> which page?
[17:29] <MTecknology> 9.10 is installed now
[17:31] <PDG1> so... I'm trying to get a super lightweight laptop OS... I've installed U-lite because i really like the buntus...
[17:31] <PDG1> i've thought about Android... i've tried puppy... I don't know about DSL
[17:35] <PDG1> dsl would probably run quicker.. I don't know how to make it as pretty as U-lite... but i'm pretty sure that it wont detect my wireless card automagically... does anyone have some opinions
[17:35] <PDG1> ?
[17:35] <DetroitLibertyPe>  ¿
[17:35] <DetroitLibertyPe> I'm a big fan of DSL, but I don't use wirless normally, it doesn't recongize my wife's wireless car
[17:36] <PDG1> i don't even know how to find out if there's support
[17:37] <DetroitLibertyPe> linuxquestions.org, #damnsmalllinux
[17:47] <DetroitLibertyPe> להשמיד את העולם הזמנה חדשה,אחד עשר בספטמבר היה בתוך העבודה
[17:49] <PDG1> hey, thanks... I think I'll try DSL-N instead
[17:49] <DetroitLibertyPe> OK, I've never used DSL-N
[17:50] <PDG1> it uses 2.6 instead of 2.4
[17:50] <DetroitLibertyPe> 2.4 is where its at!
[17:51] <PDG1> hmmm
[17:52] <PDG1> well DSL is only 50 MB... i'll try it again aswell
[18:27] <eNathan> I need some help getting my internet to connect on xubuntu
[18:28] <eNathan> as a side note I'm running VMWare but the problem isn't VMWare itself -- as I can boot other linux images through it
[18:29] <eNathan> I suppose I would have to re-configure / default the network settings.. I'm not sure how though
[18:29] <SiDi> err :/
[18:29] <SiDi> if you're using a virtual machine then there should be a specific network proposed to your guest xubuntu OS
[18:29] <SiDi> i dont know about vmware, but with virtualbox it connects out of the box
[18:30] <eNathan> it was working at one point, but I disabled the DHCP / NAT services for vmware at one point, and when I re-enabled them it didn't work
[18:32] <SiDi> are you sure you reenabled everything ?
[18:32] <eNathan> the result for eth0 when I run iifconfig doesn't show a network address
[18:32] <SiDi> click on the network icon in the top right of xubuntu, what do you see ?
[18:32] <eNathan> im sure.. other linux images work in VMWare at the moment
[18:33] <eNathan> Wired Network | Auto Eth0 | Configure VPN
[18:33] <eNathan> and there's an x on the icon
[18:34] <eNathan> I clicked Auto Eth0, it requested a network address and says im connected
[18:35] <eNathan> heh. thanks.. simple solution
[18:41] <chewit> i'm little slow on the news, just want to know what you all think about Lubuntu
[18:47] <SiDi> _eNathan_: :)
[19:10] <Call-Me-M> hey, i have been using 5 days now trying to get a web-page up and running, i have looked at several tutorials, and howto's and i cant seem to understand how to "build my own web host server, i have created a web-page at dreamweaver, but i dont understand what i should do to publish it on my own host server.????!!!??? Help Anyone!?
[19:11] <knome> Call-Me-M, the most common way is to set up an apache web server
[19:11] <knome> Call-Me-M, sudo apt-get install apache2
[19:11] <Call-Me-M> i think i have one
[19:11] <Call-Me-M> on my ubuntu server
[19:11] <knome> right, i suppose you do then
[19:12] <knome> Call-Me-M, i'd say you should refer to the apache manual
[19:13] <Call-Me-M> kk
[19:13] <knome> or ask the #httpd -channel
[19:19] <SiDi> Dreamweaver...
[19:20] <vinnl> Don't start :P
[19:23] <_eNathan_> callme, you either have to run your own apache server or get web hosting
[19:23] <_eNathan_> I wouldn't recommend the former..
[19:23] <_eNathan_> dreamweaver is just development and has nothing to do with the web server (other than uploading the site's files via FTP / etc)
[19:29] <SiDi> _eNathan_: i dont consider dreamweaver capable of making "web" documents, so whats the point of corrupting the virgin innocent soul of a web server with these ?
[19:30] <_eNathan_> SiDi: You're one of those anti-dreamweaver types.. :P Honestly, I use dreamweaver but I don't use the wysiwyg features it has. I code and format using raw xhtml/css/javascript etc
[19:30] <_eNathan_> I don't like wysiwyg either
[19:31] <_eNathan_> but it's not like dw is evil.. atleast it creates xhtml compliant documents :)
[19:32] <SiDi> _eNathan_: im ok with it as long as you know how to code with a notepad :)
[19:33] <_eNathan_> started in notepad
[19:33] <SiDi> wysiwyg is just a big joke, and it really makes life hard for those who gotta work after people who use that... i lost a lot of time when i was doing web due to people not working properly
[19:33] <_eNathan_> I just like syntax higlighting, etc
[19:33] <SiDi> try gedit ^^
[19:33] <_eNathan_> correction: I like syntax hilighting + remote / local file ftp management
[19:34] <SiDi> use emacs then :d
[19:34] <SiDi> i usually host the code on my machine so i dont have to upload, and i upload when im done :p
[19:37] <_eNathan_> yea, I usually have to uplaod constantly though.. there's no "being done" part
[19:37] <_eNathan_> e.g., debugging PHP
[19:37] <_eNathan_> and testing
[19:38] <_eNathan_> I'm not sure of a way to do that locally.. perhaps installing PHP and a local web server or something..
[19:38] <SiDi> yeh
[19:38] <SiDi> install apache and php
[19:38] <SiDi> and then just go to localhost/yourstuff
[19:38] <SiDi> you can get mysql and phpmyadmin too
[19:38] <SiDi> or postgresql, ruby, etc
[19:38] <SiDi> !apache
[19:40] <_eNathan_> perhaps.. my system resources are too sparse for that at the moment though
[19:40] <_eNathan_> I don't do much web development anymore
[19:41] <_eNathan_> no more personal projects.. the freelance scene is a dry desert
[19:41] <SiDi> heh yeh
[19:41] <SiDi> they pay fat web agencies for too often badly done job :(
[19:42] <SiDi> but apache isnt so so heavy. and if you're really short on ram, try httpd
[19:44] <_eNathan_> I'll keep it in mind (:
[19:44] <SiDi> lighttpd*
[20:19] <_eNathan_> SiDi, what would you recommend for someone wanting to get started doing C++ programming on linux?
[20:23] <_eNathan_> I reckon Eclipse is a popular IDE
[20:38] <SiDi> _eNathan_: eclipse can be good if you're used to it, yeh
[20:39] <SiDi> i personally only use gedit, regardless of what im coding
[20:39] <SiDi> its enough for my needs :)
[21:05] <_eNathan_> gedit doesn't appear to be a compiler
[21:07] <SiDi> eclipse neither
[21:07] <SiDi> you compile with g++ anyway
[21:09] <Raggs> blueJ will compile java
[21:09] <Raggs> :D
[21:11] <SiDi> _eNathan_: you have, in gedit and kate, the possibility to add a terminal
[21:11] <SiDi> so you can use your makefile or command line to compile
[21:14] <Raggs> SiDi, not command line!!!!
[21:15] <SiDi> whats wrong with command line
[21:15] <SiDi> doesnt eat kittens
[21:15] <SiDi> gcc -c foo.cc bar.cc -lm is sexy
[21:15] <Raggs> no, you just have to sacrifice new born kittens to use it right?
[22:35] <knome> bug 248619
[22:35] <knome> ehm...
[22:41] <Sniper606> Does anyone know if there is a way to make the thunar file manager's background transparent in XFCE on xubuntu 9.04?
[22:51] <bassliner> hi there, does xubuntu 9.04 include the 4.4 or the 4.6 xfce?
[22:51] <knome> 4.6
[22:52] <SiDi> 4.6
[22:52] <knome> SiDi, beat you!
[22:52] <SiDi> knome: but its hot here
[22:52] <bassliner> so no easy way to edit menus?
[22:52] <knome> bassliner, nope.
[22:52] <SiDi> bassliner: no easy way, no
[22:52] <bassliner> ty.
[22:52] <knome> SiDi, it's hot here as well :P
[22:52] <SiDi> knome: :[
[22:52] <knome> +20
[22:52] <SiDi> knome: ahah x_x
[22:52] <SiDi> i think we are at 28 here
[22:52] <knome> that's hot enough for finnish people
[22:52] <knome> 28 would be wau too much for me.
[22:52] <knome> 20 is perfect.
[22:52] <SiDi> it goes up to 40 in the summer here
[22:53] <knome> maybe 23-25 would be okay.
[22:53] <SiDi> 23 is ok, 25 is too much
[22:53] <knome> :P
[22:53] <Slonkie> lol
[22:53] <SiDi> tomorrow they plan 34° in the afternoon
[22:53] <knome> "they" plan?
[22:53] <SiDi> the meteo guys
[22:54] <SiDi> yknow, scientists
[22:54] <knome> i don't think they plan it
[22:54] <Slonkie> yes they do!! :D
[22:54] <SiDi> they expect then
[22:54] <Slonkie> they forecast them
[22:54] <knome> yes, they forecast them :P
[22:54] <SiDi> pff
[22:54] <SiDi> clever people
[22:54] <knome> ;))
[22:54] <SiDi> its hot here, i cant use brain cells
[22:55] <knome> lol
[22:55] <Slonkie> Come to denmark
[22:55] <knome> like when can you
[22:55] <knome> ;)
[22:55] <Slonkie> We've got 14 Degress celcius and rain
[22:55] <SiDi> Slonkie: you find me job+home and i come :)
[22:56] <SiDi> gonna take a cold shower brb
[22:56] <SiDi> actually gonna go bed after. good night xubuntu !
[22:56] <knome> night :P
[23:02] <valve> Evening guys, I have a question to pick your brains with :) I've just installed 9.04 on a machine that's to be a music machine (using rhythmbox with the rhythmweb plugin to control it... unless anyone can suggest a better network/web based method of controlling a media player), and i'm having a problem when ripping cds. When I put a cd in, I have to open up Gigolo and get that to connect to the cd drive, which then lets rhythmbox 'see' the di
[23:07] <froggyman> I am trying to do a test install of Xubuntu and am doing this on a 16GB flash drive with 11GB free and set the install to a 5GB partition. The first 80% went by rather quickly. But now appears to be stuck at "Creating the Virtual Disks" and has been on this step for around 15 minutes. Now is this last part expected to take a rather long time and it just needs to be given some time to install? or is there a probkem with it? I
[23:46] <stephen87> hello