[00:00] <neoandersen> I dont know
[00:00] <neoandersen> how can I see that?
[00:01] <neoandersen> does the i letter in aptitude mean installed?
[00:02] <Polaroid> punks
[00:04] <ign0ramus> neoandersen, "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras w32-codecs"
[00:04] <neoandersen> ok
[00:05] <neoandersen> kubuntu-restricted-extras is already the newest version.
[00:05] <neoandersen> E: Couldn't find package w32-codecs
[00:05] <ign0ramus> neoandersen, do you have all your repositories enabled?
[00:05] <genii> !info w32codecs
[00:05] <neoandersen> I never changed it...
[00:05] <ign0ramus> neoandersen, when replying, please type a nick, so the person knows youre responding to them
[00:06] <ign0ramus> neoandersen, you'll probably want "libdvdcss2" as well
[00:06] <neoandersen> ok
[00:06] <ign0ramus> genii, what's the jaunty equivalent?
[00:06] <genii> ign0ramus: Not sure. Maybe non-free-codecs
[00:07] <tsimpson> it never was in ubuntu, see !medibuntu
[00:07] <ign0ramus> neoandersen, ahh... "w32codecs" they took out the dash
[00:07] <genii> ign0ramus: Ah...is Medibuntu. So w32codecs still exists, just not in regular repos
[00:07] <ign0ramus> tsimpson, genii: thanks
[00:07] <tsimpson> and you should not need w32codecs for an audio CD
[00:07] <tsimpson> or any codecs
[00:07] <ign0ramus> !medibuntu | neoandersen
[00:08] <tsimpson> audio CD is raw PCM
[00:08] <JuJuBee> Hello. I installed opera_9.64.2480.gcc4.qt3_amd64.deb on my laptop (currently using) and I can use the chat feature of opera, but when I install onto my desktop I cannot? Any ideas? Same OS (Kubuntu 9.04 both fresh installs)
[00:08] <halberd> how the heck do I use kthinkbat
[00:08] <halberd> I apt-got it so now where is it
[00:09] <neoandersen> I guess my cd should just be played here in kubuntu as it does in Ubuntu...
[00:09] <ign0ramus> neoandersen, according to tsimpson (who knows what (s)he's talking about), cd's should automatically work
[00:09] <ign0ramus> neoandersen, what app are you trying to play them with?
[00:09]  * tsimpson is a he
[00:09] <halberd> locate kthinkbat turns nothing up
[00:10] <ign0ramus> tsimpson, ok, dude :)
[00:10] <neoandersen> Yeah! I guess it shoulp pĺay automatically
[00:10] <neoandersen> amarok
[00:10] <uga> tsimpson: and you had to announce it? proud about? =)
[00:11] <ign0ramus> uga, i didn't know if tsimpson was a dude or a chick... and why not be proud?
[00:11] <halberd> oh ign0ramus thanks for telling me about kstart
[00:11] <ign0ramus> halberd, did that help? i've never actually used it.
[00:11] <uga> ign0ramus: psst. let him respond, I was just joking as if I had not read your comment ;)
[00:11] <togetic> so my mouse doesn't move and the computer seems to not care if i want to go to a tty screen to mess w/ its settings because it doesn't respond to my keyboard either...
[00:11] <neoandersen> I have tried amarok and audacious
[00:12] <halberd> well I haven't actually run it yet either, but if it does what it says it does, it's what I was looking for
[00:12] <ign0ramus> neoandersen, is your cd being recognized and mounted?
[00:12] <ign0ramus> halberd, it has the 'desktop x' options, so i figured it should work ;)
[00:12] <neoandersen> yes, it shows as deviices recently plugged in, but dont show the option to play it...
[00:12] <halberd> yes
[00:13] <wolter> hi
[00:13] <ign0ramus> neoandersen, does "mount" show your cd?
[00:13] <wolter> i need help with kmplot... it hid and won't show again the functions dialog, which is vital.
[00:14] <halberd> what is in /usr/share/apps/kicker/applets/
[00:14] <halberd> there's a kthinkbat.desktop there, is that the droid I seek?
[00:14] <uga> ign0ramus: ? afaik regular audio cds cannot be mounted
[00:14] <uga> ign0ramus: there's tools in cdtools deb to play them (cdplay?)
[00:14] <neoandersen> mount shows a lot of information I dont know what means...
[00:14] <halberd> no it's not
[00:15] <uga> neoandersen: if you installed the package "cdtools", you could try using the command cdplay
[00:15] <ign0ramus> uga, you may be right (i don't use cd's)... i'm just trying to figure out why his cd's won't play
[00:15] <neoandersen> ok
[00:15] <halberd> there's a /usr/lib/kde3/kthinkbat_panelapplet.so
[00:15] <uga> neoandersen: in general, I know two issues that can cause that. First, permissions, you need read access to the cdrom device
[00:16] <halberd> is that an application I can run
[00:16] <halberd> or is it just a library
[00:16] <uga> neoandersen: and the cd playing output can be connected digitally or analog way. It may be caused by wrong kmix/alsa mixer settings
[00:16] <uga> ie, wrong choice of input
[00:16] <halberd> there is no application on my system matching *?hink?at*, just a bunch of support files
[00:17] <ign0ramus> neoandersen, i'm wondering if the preferences in Amarok/Audacious have the correct location of your cd drive... have you checked that?
[00:17] <uga> ign0ramus: I'd bet permissions (run kdesudo?)
[00:17] <neoandersen> dplay: can't play (no_disc)
[00:17] <ign0ramus> uga, very possible.
[00:18] <neoandersen> cdtool didn't work
[00:18] <uga> ign0ramus: I had this one myself: the CD can be read in digital mode, straight as pcm, or the analog output is connected as input to the sound card
[00:18] <Zorix> is it possible to install kopete from the backports of 4.3 beta without installing the rest of the libraries?  It won't install on its own because of dependency version issues, but could I force the install and have problems with kopete?
[00:18] <uga> neoandersen: what did cdplay say?
[00:20] <uga> neoandersen: you need to first install cdtools, open a command line (konsole), and run "cdplay"
[00:20] <uga> you should see some output error, if it doesn't play
[00:20] <neoandersen> nothing did nothing...
[00:20] <uga> else, the disc should be spinning (and playing)
[00:20] <uga> neoandersen: no output????
[00:21] <neoandersen> I have intalled it...
[00:21] <neoandersen> yes the output was : can't play ( no disk)
[00:21] <uga> neoandersen: ok, so it didn't find something proper in the cdrom drive, it says
[00:22] <neoandersen> yeah
[00:22] <uga> neoandersen: do you have just a single cdrom drive?
[00:22] <genii> If it's a combo dvd and cd, sometimes the cd laser goes and you don't know for a while since mostly using the dvd
[00:22] <neoandersen> I have 2 dvd drives...
[00:22] <uga> neoandersen: try the other one ;)
[00:22] <neoandersen> I did...
[00:22] <uga> it may be finding the second one as first, and unless you specify to cdplay, it will pick the first one
[00:23] <uga> neoandersen: that's very strange
[00:23] <neoandersen> yeah
[00:23] <Zorix> i'm now having kpackagekit errors: Message did not receive a reply (timeout by message bus)
[00:23] <uga> neoandersen: if you pop in any other kind of disk (not music), does it work?
[00:23] <ign0ramus> uga, again, i don't use audio cd's, but just checking lshw, my drive is listed 3 ways: "/dev/cdrom" "/dev/cdrw", and "/dev/scd0" ... which of these should be used for apps to play a cd if i wanted to?
[00:24] <uga> ign0ramus: I believe /dev/cdrom should work
[00:24] <ign0ramus> uga, ok... just mostly out of curiosity.  thanks.
[00:24] <Zorix> sigh
[00:24] <uga> ign0ramus: I do use audio CDs, but I got none at hand right now to test (moving flat)
[00:24] <uga> spotify is my friend ;)
[00:25] <ign0ramus> uga, haha! :)
[00:25] <ign0ramus> uga, that's uk-only right?
[00:25] <uga> ign0ramus: nope
[00:25] <uga> it's international
[00:26] <ign0ramus> uga, not for US :(
[00:26] <uga> uh?
[00:26] <ign0ramus> Unfortunately, due to licensing restrictions we are not yet available in your country. We understand that you are currently in United States (your IP address xxx.xxx.xx.xx).
[00:26] <uga> what, Obama banned it to push CD market economy? ;)
[00:27] <uga> ign0ramus: sometimes I get no access to a few songs, but nothing else
[00:27] <uga> they're very few
[00:27] <InforMed> Hi! Why kde panel always random icons position! Any work around to save icons position?
[00:27] <ign0ramus> InforMed, lock them?
[00:28] <halberd> so I just installed network-manager
[00:28] <InforMed> ign0ramus: even if i lock them at every restart icons change position
[00:29] <uga> ign0ramus: you could try a non-us proxy
[00:29] <ign0ramus> InforMed, that's one i haven't heard yet... which icons in which widgets?
[00:29] <ign0ramus> uga, i could, but there are plenty of options here too ;)
[00:29] <neoandersen> now I could open the cd with dolphin but I cant play it with amarok nor audacious...
[00:29] <genii> <cough cough> !piracy
[00:30]  * ign0ramus gives an uncomfortable chuckle at genii's comment and looks around nervously
[00:30] <uga> genii: playing spotify is no piracy
[00:30] <ign0ramus> uga, he knows, but he knows what other people are capable of doing
[00:31] <uga> if you want piracy, I could tell you how to rip songs from spotify to mp3 ;)
[00:31] <uga> but not going to ;P
[00:31] <InforMed> ign0ramus: I have a panel at top of screen with my favorite apps! But every time I restart kubuntu icons change position!
[00:31] <genii> uga: Good.
[00:31] <ign0ramus> InforMed, do you have the standard bottom panel as well?  do those icons change place?
[00:32] <halberd> how do I get network-manager to start working
[00:33] <InforMed> ign0ramus: I have standart bottom panel, but without icons
[00:34] <uga> ign0ramus: I wonder what sort of database they use to check your country
[00:34] <uga> doesn't that violate privacy rights?
[00:34] <ign0ramus> uga, im sure a simple IP check that almost every server logs
[00:35] <ign0ramus> uga, same way you probably cannot watch hulu or comedycentral.com
[00:35] <halberd> I have the NetworkManager daemon running
[00:35] <InforMed> ign0ramus: take a look http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/5391/screennrx.png
[00:35] <halberd> but how do I get a widget
[00:35] <uga> ign0ramus: yes, but I could be using an IP I bought long ago in US and moved later to EU domain servers (moved continent for example)
[00:35] <halberd> there's a README that says there's something called nm-applet
[00:35] <commander_> evry time i go to system settings it doesn't pop up
[00:36] <halberd> but it is not found with find / -name nm-applet
[00:36] <InforMed> I have top panel icons organized but if I restart panel becames a mess
[00:36] <ign0ramus> halberd, plasma-widget-network-manager
[00:37] <ign0ramus> InforMed, i wonder if it has to do with your sizing... if you maximize the length, does the issue still occur?
[00:37] <uga> ign0ramus: right, but they can be estimating my location right
[00:37] <ign0ramus> uga, yes... typically IPs are grouped by geographic location
[00:37] <uga> ign0ramus: what if this IP is right now located in Spain, but it's registered to me (bought), so I move, and all IPs move with me
[00:37] <ign0ramus> uga, a simply proxy works most of the time
[00:38] <uga> yes, I know proxying can help. My web server is in the US anyway
[00:38] <uga> but ... it's just not the way to filter out people
[00:38] <InforMed> ign0ramus: I never think about that!
[00:38] <ign0ramus> uga, spotify (can't speak for other services) has an option if they mis-interpreted your location
[00:38] <uga> ign0ramus: it feels almost like in China
[00:38] <ign0ramus> InforMed, i may be wrong (happens daily), but it's worth trying
[00:39] <ign0ramus> uga, it's all licensing, which i have mixed feelings about.  which is why i prefer linux.
[00:39] <ign0ramus> uga, one of the reasons, anyway :)
[00:40] <halberd> so what's the deal with kde applets
[00:40] <halberd> they aren't like normal applications, are they?
[00:40] <halberd> they have to be started at login?
[00:40] <ign0ramus> halberd, did you install the widget?
[00:40] <halberd> oh I didn't notice you said that
[00:41] <ign0ramus> halberd, :)
[00:41] <uga> ign0ramus: some of the recordings in spotify are uhm... "less than optimally" recorded, so I'd not be too sure what sort of "licenses" they acquired for those
[00:41] <halberd> although the network manager README and their website makes it sound like it should start an applet called nm-applet
[00:41] <halberd> automatically
[00:41] <ign0ramus> uga, any service that recognized is almost guaranteed to be on the up and up
[00:41] <halberd> on login
[00:42] <halberd> can't find package plasma-widget-network-manager
[00:42] <uga> halberd: I'm first enemy of network manager crap
[00:43] <ign0ramus> halberd, i'd recommend wicd first of all...
[00:43] <uga> today I configured the network interfaces to have a static IP address. Stop network, restart...
[00:43] <halberd> why is that uga?
[00:43] <uga> and guesss what, dhcp again
[00:43] <ign0ramus> halberd, but "apt-cache search" shows "plasma-widget-network-manager - KDE plasma applet for controlling NetworkManager"
[00:43] <uga> halberd: read before your line ;)
[00:43] <InforMed> ign0ramus: resizing and restarting makes the panel a total mess!
[00:44] <ign0ramus> InforMed, ouch. well, that rules that out!
[00:44] <uga> halberd: old plain text config files no more work on linux
[00:44] <uga> nice old RH 4 years... sigh =)
[00:44] <halberd> so if I install wicd I guess I need to remove network-manager
[00:44] <ign0ramus> halberd, it will do it automatically.
[00:44] <ign0ramus> halberd, apt is good like that ;)
[00:45] <halberd> let me reboot and see what the network manager applet looks like, or if it shows up at all
[00:45] <halberd> er, restart X I mean
[00:45] <genii> Hm. "<halberd> there's a /usr/lib/kde3/kthinkbat_panelapplet.so"        <-- sorta makes me think plasma stuff might not be around if yer on kde3
[00:45] <ign0ramus> halberd, it won't if you don't have it installed
[00:46] <ign0ramus> genii, wouldn't that dir exist from an upgrade?
[00:46] <halberd> yeah I don't see any applet
[00:46] <alexandreNunes> ola
[00:46] <genii> ign0ramus: Possibly. But he said he *just* installed that thinkbat app.
[00:46] <ign0ramus> genii, the powers of deduction! :)
[00:48] <halberd> I have both a /usr/lib/kde3 and /usr/lib/kde4 directory
[00:48] <halberd> oh it's kde 3.5
[00:49] <ign0ramus> genii, you called it!
[00:49] <halberd> so what do I need to upgrade to get to kde 4?  my kernel is probably out of date at 2.6.24-21
[00:49]  * genii makes more coffee
[00:50] <uga> halberd: possibly the kernel is the only thing that does not need to get updated, for kde4 =)
[00:52] <halberd> apt-cache search wicd --> no results
[00:53] <uga> # apt-cache search wicd
[00:53] <uga> wicd - wired and wireless network manager
[00:53] <halberd> well I get no results
[00:54] <uga> halberd: jaunty repos here
[00:54] <neoandersen> Now I am listening the cd... but I had to rip it first...
[00:55] <halberd> so if I want wicd I need to do a manual install
[00:55] <uga> neoandersen: don't mention that word (rip) here! genii will kick you! ;)
[00:55] <uga> thankfully he'll not be a bot and will understand first :P
[00:56] <halberd> oh no I don't
[00:56] <ign0ramus> halberd, what version are you using?
[00:57] <halberd> 8.04, it says here I can do an install with the package manager, I just have to change a setting
[00:57] <ign0ramus> halberd, add "    deb http://apt.wicd.net hardy extras   " to /etc/apt/sources.list
[00:57] <halberd> yeah that :)
[00:58] <ign0ramus> halberd, then do: "wget -q http://apt.wicd.net/wicd.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add -"
[00:58] <ign0ramus> halberd, update && upgrade, and you're good to go :)
[01:01] <halberd> what do you think, should I remove that line from sources.list afterwards for security reasons?
[01:01] <ign0ramus> halberd, no, wicd is trusted, and in jaunty repos by default
[01:02] <uga> halberd: if you know how to maintain orphan packages after removing the sources, please let me know ;)
[01:02] <halberd> well I could uncomment it just temporarily to update it
[01:03] <halberd> but I'm thinking, even if wicd is trusted that doesn't mean someone can't dns spoof them
[01:03] <ign0ramus> halberd, i think you're overthinking using a trusted package source...
[01:03] <ign0ramus> halberd, anyone can be spoofed.  comment out your entire repo list!
[01:03] <uga> halberd: and you think they cannot do the same  with standard ubuntu sources?
[01:03] <uga> it's even more interesting for hackers, given there's greater coverage
[01:04] <ign0ramus> ...which would be much more likely, considering the scope
[01:04] <uga> actually, I wonder how you dare download anything!
[01:04] <halberd> the latter might be more difficult because the information is presumably on more dns servers
[01:04] <ign0ramus> ^what uga said ;)
[01:04] <uga> ;)
[01:04] <uga> halberd: on more dns servers¿?¿¿
[01:04] <halberd> alright forget I mentioned it
[01:05] <uga> =)
[01:05] <ign0ramus> halberd, security is a primary goal in linux, but with this one, you should be fine
[01:05] <uga> halberd: do backups, once a month to external drives. And have installer disks at hand
[01:06] <uga> nobody cares about your data
[01:06] <uga> so you'll be fine
[01:06] <uga> you're not a bank, nor an insurance company, nor a politician, I guess :P
[01:06]  * ign0ramus wants halberd's essay on the Byzantine Empire
[01:06] <uga> else, please let me know, and I'll send you some present ;P
[01:08] <uga> halberd: anyway, in case somebody tries, change your ssh server message to "come on baby! you gonna hack me? I'm hot!" or something in that line
[01:09] <uga> halberd: they'll hack you and lynch you, but at least you know you had some fun ;)
[01:09] <uga> halberd: and they won't try hiding anything. They'll just rm -rf, so your data will not be stolen
[01:12] <t_> ??
[01:23] <halberd> what kind of documentation lives in /usr/share/doc/kde/HTML/en/?
[01:23] <halberd> how do I access it?
[01:25] <halberd> also, my application manuals are missing in khelpcenter
[01:25] <halberd> when I go to build search index, it has a line that says Application Manuals, and to the right of that it says the status is Missing
[01:27] <halberd> kinfocenter, i mean
[01:31] <halberd> and if I type, for example, khelpcenter help:/kedit into konsole, it does not find any information
[01:32] <halberd> where does khelpcenter expect to find manuals?
[01:32] <ign0ramus> halberd, did you click Build Search Index, and follow?
[01:33] <ign0ramus> halberd, check the box, and click 'build index'
[01:33] <halberd> yes I did that
[01:33] <ign0ramus> halberd, although "man <package>" is probably just as helpful
[01:33] <halberd> actually the thing about help:/kedit is not surprising since I don't have kedit--in fact I CAN access manuals from the command line
[01:34] <halberd> but I can't search for them in khelpcenter
[01:34] <halberd> well, for example there is no man page for kweather
[01:34] <ign0ramus> halberd, some apps do not have man pages, as you've found.  I don't think you'd find help for them in the kde help center either, though.
[01:35] <halberd> in this case there is one in khelpcenter
[01:37] <RelookNA> hi guyz & girlz
[01:38] <RelookNA> lost my apps tabs on bottom panel, can someone help me?
[01:39] <ign0ramus> RelookNA, which one? the one that manages open windows?
[01:39] <RelookNA> if I minimize an application, I have no tab to re-open it
[01:40] <ign0ramus> RelookNA, add Task Manager widget
[01:40] <RelookNA> thanks!
[01:40] <RelookNA> :)
[01:40] <ign0ramus> RelookNA, np :)
[01:49] <bdizzle> hi, I just re-installed Kubuntu 9.04 and was wondering if anyone was having problems with Plasma constantly freezing up?
[01:52] <Dragnslcr> No problems with it here. What video chipset do you have?
[01:52] <bdizzle> Intel
[01:53] <Dragnslcr> Yeah, that's what I guessed
[01:53] <bdizzle> I forget what the exact chipset is
[01:53] <Dragnslcr> I know there were problems with the Intel drivers when 9.04 came out
[01:55] <bdizzle> oh fun
[01:55] <togetic> yup, still can't access kubuntu
[01:55] <bdizzle> because it keeps freezing up when I have multiple processes running, which for my work is rather necessary
[01:55] <bdizzle> it also freezes up when running streaming video
[01:55] <togetic> just live cding away my day
[01:55] <halberd> hmm where's the configuration menu for the taskbar
[01:56] <halberd> oh i got it
[01:56] <bdizzle> togetic: try installing it on a flash drive
[01:56] <togetic> bdizzle: installing what on a flash drive?
[01:56] <togetic> the live cd?
[01:56] <bdizzle> the Kubuntu Iso file
[01:56] <bdizzle> yes
[01:56] <togetic> doesn't matter, either way it's a live distro
[01:56] <bdizzle> hmm
[01:56] <togetic> i'd like to use the distro on my hdd
[01:56] <bdizzle> yeah
[01:59] <bdizzle_> sorry, computer froze (that glitch I was teling everyone about)
[02:00] <halberd> kubuntu has more eye candy than os x
[02:00] <matu> ...
[02:00] <halberd> and a lot more configuration options
[02:01] <matu> i`m not spek english... xD
[02:01] <bdizzle_> as for the live cd issue, perhaps it isn't downloading properly
[02:01] <bdizzle_> matu, what language?
[02:01] <matu> spanihs
[02:01] <bdizzle_> !es
[02:01] <matu> ..spanish
[02:01] <matu> xD
[02:01] <matu> si
[02:01] <bdizzle_> de nada
[02:01] <matu> español
[02:02] <matu> sou nuevo en ubuntu xD
[02:02] <matu> q me pueden contar?¿
[02:02] <ricardo__> hola
[02:02] <matu> holas
[02:02] <ricardo__> so nuevo tambien
[02:03] <bdizzle_> matu, soy no mucho bueno a espanol. Por favor, va a #kubuntu-es o #ubuntu-es
[02:03] <bdizzle_> wow, I can't believe I remembered that much from high school spanish
[02:03] <ricardo__> cho tampoco
[02:03] <matu> gracias bdizzle_
[02:05] <ri__> primera vez utilizo
[02:05] <ricardo> como va?
[02:06] <bdizzle_> ricardo, I don't speak very much spanish
[02:06] <bdizzle_> I took three years of it in high school, and that was at least eight years ago
[02:06] <ricardo> my english is little
[02:06] <bdizzle_> alright, but no one knows why the Intel drivers for Kubuntu 9.04 don't work well
[02:06] <bdizzle_> then please go to #kubuntu-es  that is the main channel for kubuntu in spanish
[02:09] <ri> i don know how go it
[02:11] <bdizzle_> just click on the link
[02:11] <tyka_> allo
[02:15] <halberd> you know what I might use? a panel applet that will calculate arithmetic expressions entered as text
[02:15] <matu> el q habla poco ingles quiero aprender ingles xD ajaj algo se pero es basico
[02:16] <RickX> can any one tell me how to stop those black bars on the sides of widgets to stop appearing every time the cursor goes over the widget?
[02:17] <halberd> anybody know of something like that? a panel applet with a single text field that evaluates python code, for example, would do fine
[02:17] <bdizzle_> RickX: I don't think its supposed to do that
[02:18] <bdizzle_> matu, this is the english channel for #kubuntu. Please click on the following:  #kubuntu-es
[02:18] <halberd> why are there so many spanish speakers using kubuntu?
[02:18] <prefrontal> that's a very weird question.
[02:18] <Dragnslcr> halberd- there is a calculator plasmoid
[02:19] <bdizzle_> halberd: does it really matter?
[02:20] <halberd> no I'm just a little curious
[02:20] <bdizzle_> its an international operating system
[02:20] <AlienDK> kubuntu is kewl
[02:20] <halberd> it is
[02:20] <AlienDK> I don't see why people prefer GNOME
[02:20] <AlienDK> KDE pwns
[02:21] <AlienDK> :S
[02:21] <prefrontal> gnome is obviously a more stable choice
[02:21] <AlienDK> meh
[02:21] <prefrontal> which is why it was chosen for Ubuntu.
[02:21] <AlienDK> I like KDE :)
[02:21] <halberd> I just made a neat way to switch between programs--I added a panel at the top left, with a single applet, a task bar, with application grouping disabled
[02:21] <prefrontal> so, that doesn't make it better
[02:21] <prefrontal> or more stable.
[02:21] <AlienDK> lol
[02:21] <halberd> and made the panel extra wide so I can read most of the name of each application
[02:22] <prefrontal> i personally find gnome infuriating
[02:22] <halberd> so i can switch apps with 1 click
[02:22] <prefrontal> why diverge from the Windows interface model?
[02:22] <prefrontal> that's what everyone knows.
[02:23] <halberd> kde is more windows-like?
[02:23] <AlienDK> Yeah
[02:23] <AlienDK> Taskbar
[02:23] <prefrontal> the Panel is basically a clone of Windows
[02:24] <AlienDK> mostly it
[02:24] <halberd> what does gnome use instead?
[02:24] <RickX> bdizzle_: every time I've used kde4, when I hover the cursor over a widget, the black bar on the side appears.
[02:24] <bdizzle_> yes, that is normal
[02:24] <prefrontal> gnome puts their thing on top, and has designed it differently
[02:24] <bdizzle_> that is supposed to happen
[02:25] <RickX> how do I turn it off.. it is very annoying.
[02:25] <halberd> well but it's probably the same idea still, a bar with common actions on it
[02:25] <Dragnslcr> RickX- might be a rendering bug
[02:26] <prefrontal> gnome is maybe 60% similar to the windows model, kde 85%
[02:26] <RickX> Dragnslcr: no, it is the bar you use to configure the widget
[02:26]  * RelookNA_away is away: Gone away for now
[02:26] <Dragnslcr> RickX- oh, you mean plasmoids that you have on the desktop
[02:26] <halberd> I haven't used windows extensively in a few years
[02:27] <RickX> Dragnslcr: yes
[02:27] <halberd> so my memory is a bit fuzzy, but I think kde has a lot more desktop features than windows
[02:27] <AlienDK> <.<
[02:27] <AlienDK> KDE pwns
[02:28] <halberd> oh the other thing I did with my taskbar is I made the panel resize to fit
[02:28] <Dragnslcr> RickX- not sure if there's a way to disable that. If there were, I'm not sure how'd you get the settings bar back. You might try asking #kde, since this isn't something specific to Kubuntu
[02:29] <halberd> so that if I only have a few apps open it hardly takes up any space
[02:34] <frankS2> Hi, Anyone else have problems with buggy tastbar?
[02:40] <ricardo> hello¡¡
[02:40] <AlienDK> blah
[02:40] <ricardo> itś new for me
[02:42] <ricardo> virtuos capullen
[02:52] <teckstacy> How do I make the system not ask for a password when I come up from hibernation?
[02:57] <teckstacy> I am building an embedded system (without a keyboard) and I need to be able to hibernate and wake up without a password, but I can't find a way to set that
[03:00] <Dragnslcr> teckstacy- check System Settings -> Advanced -> Power Management
[03:01] <Serpardum> I see I have /usr/lib/xort/modules/drivers/cirrus_drv.so
[03:01] <Serpardum> wehre do I find the source code for that?
[03:02] <creandosoft> buenas
[03:02] <Dragnslcr> teckstacy- there's a "Lock screen on resume" option, as well as "Lock Screen" options in the profiles
[03:02] <creandosoft> una ayuda para el kubuntu
[03:02] <nikitis> What is the keyboard shortcut for show desktop?
[03:02] <Dragnslcr> !es | creandosoft
[03:02] <creandosoft> gracias
[03:03] <teckstacy> Dragnslcr, I don't have the power-management module in my system settings
[03:03] <Dragnslcr> teckstacy- it should be there by default
[03:04] <Dragnslcr> Bottom of the advanced tab
[03:05] <nikitis> Anyone?
[03:05] <creandosoft> help ip static
[03:05] <teckstacy> I just checked again, it's not.
[03:05] <teckstacy> I see it on my laptop, but not this system for some reason
[03:18] <misha> alguien que me ayude
[03:19] <misha> ubuntu 8 en una powerpc  de apple
[03:23] <Pici> !es | misha
[03:23] <misha> tanks
[03:47] <juan> hola
[03:47] <juan> hola
[03:48] <juan> hola
[03:48] <juan> q pasa
[03:53] <koopa> how can i turn off the screen lockk when im switching users??
[03:57] <bdizzle> okay, so here is an interesting one
[03:57] <bdizzle> I had read that doing metacity --replace would fix the intel issues. I rebooted and had KDE login, and now sitting with a GNOME background
[03:57] <bdizzle> err, GNOME desktop. How do I get my KDE back?
[03:59] <ahmad-> SuperKaramba cannot continue to run this theme.One or more of the required components of the Kross scripting architecture is not installed. Please consult this theme's documentation and install the necessary Kross components.
[03:59] <ahmad-> how can i fix that ?
[04:04] <juan> hola q pasa
[04:04] <Dragnslcr> !es | juan
[04:13] <ghw> so quiet
[04:18] <ghw> anybody
[04:18] <ghw> ?
[04:21] <WanderingKnight> hey there
[04:21] <WanderingKnight> I just upgraded jaunty to the kde ppa
[04:21] <WanderingKnight> I think I'm having a conflict between kdeplasma-addons and kdeplasma-addons-data
[04:21] <WanderingKnight> was the package changed?
[04:22] <WanderingKnight> because I'm not seeing the kdeplasma-addons-data package updated on the repositories I'm pointing to
[04:22] <WanderingKnight> Package: kdeplasma-addons-data
[04:22] <WanderingKnight> Priority: optional
[04:22] <WanderingKnight> Section: kde
[04:22] <WanderingKnight> Installed-Size: 4612
[04:22] <WanderingKnight> Maintainer: Kubuntu Developers <kubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com>
[04:22] <FloodBotK1> WanderingKnight: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:22] <WanderingKnight> Original-Maintainer: Debian Qt/KDE Maintainers <debian-qt-kde@lists.debian.org>
[04:25] <WanderingKnight> sorry about that
[04:25] <WanderingKnight> can anyone give me a hand?
[04:26] <emmy> Ive heard that Kubuntu is getting better and better
[04:29] <markus____> yeah kubuntu is in the best moment
[04:30] <WanderingKnight> yeah, but can anyone give me a hand here? :D
[04:30] <WanderingKnight> I know I can go back to before without the PPA packages, but I'd really like to fix it, especially if it's just a packaging bug
[04:31] <markus____> don't wait for personal answers ask..
[04:31] <WanderingKnight> 00:21 < WanderingKnight> I think I'm having a conflict between kdeplasma-addons and kdeplasma-addons-data
[04:31] <WanderingKnight> 00:21 < WanderingKnight> was the package changed?
[04:31] <WanderingKnight> 00:21 < WanderingKnight> I think I'm having a conflict between kdeplasma-addons and kdeplasma-addons-data
[04:31] <WanderingKnight> 00:21 < WanderingKnight> was the package changed?
[04:31] <WanderingKnight> 00:21 < WanderingKnight> I think I'm having a conflict between kdeplasma-addons and kdeplasma-addons-data
[04:31] <FloodBotK1> WanderingKnight: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:31] <WanderingKnight> 00:21 < WanderingKnight> was the package changed?
[04:32] <markus____> i can't undertand, your problem is the package??
[04:32] <markus____> sorry "understand "
[04:34] <SolidLiq> !ping
[04:37] <draik> Hello everyone. How can I view MySQL databases with a GUI?
[04:46] <Dragnslcr> draik- there must be at least half a dozen programs in the repositories
[04:46] <commander_> how can i get compiz config to work ?
[04:47] <draik> Dragnslcr: I installed 2 of them and now I'm wondering why the server's mysql-server app isn't letting me connect or why this desktop's mysql-client isn't connecting.
[04:47] <markus____> commander_: what version of linux are using??
[04:47] <commander_> kubuntu 9.04
[04:48] <Dragnslcr> draik- connection limit, maybe? You'd probably have to check the server's logs
[04:48] <TheJohn> NIGHT ALL! sleepy time
[04:48] <markus____> commander_: you need to search the package of compiz fusion
[04:49] <draik> Dragnslcr: The server is personal. It's hooked up to my home network.
[04:49] <Dragnslcr> draik- that shouldn't make a difference
[04:49] <markus____> commander_: and then search the administrator of options for compiz fusion
[04:51] <markus____> commander_: in the administrator you can configure compiz
[04:51] <ner0x> How do I set up my wireless? I have a card installed but it's not detected. Does this use ndiswrapper?
[04:52] <commander_> where do i search 4 that
[04:52] <markus____> on your menu like windows put kpackage
[04:53] <markus____> commander_: and open the aplication and in that you can found the files
[04:53] <commander_> ok application - then ?..
[04:54] <markus____> commander_: in the aplication search for compiz fusion there apear both the packages
[04:59] <avihayb> umm, how can I run a command on another display?
[04:59] <avihayb> I'm connected to my laptop via ssh, but the laptop is not responsive
[05:00] <Dragnslcr> Not responsive locally?
[05:00] <avihayb> I want to "xset dpms force on " but it gets redirected to my display
[05:00] <avihayb> yes
[05:00] <Dragnslcr> Dunno if you can. xset might have a display option
[05:01] <Dragnslcr> Yup, looks like it does, -display
[05:01] <avihayb> so I just -display 0
[05:02] <draik> Dragnslcr: What's the syntax for connecting to MySQL on my server?   mysql -u USER -h My.Router.IP.Addy -p       right?
[05:03] <draik> Correction, not router IP, but IP to the server from the router.
[05:03] <Dragnslcr> You can just leave off the -h option to connect through a local Unix socket
[05:03] <Dragnslcr> Assuming you mean the client and server are the same machine
[05:03] <draik> Desktop and server are 2 separate machines
[05:04] <avihayb> wird, xset -display :0 dpms force on just seems to frease there
[05:04] <Dragnslcr> draik- then you do need to include -h
[05:04] <avihayb> freaze
[05:05] <draik> Just did and I get this:   ERROR 2003 (HY000): Can't connect to MySQL server on 'XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX' (111)
[05:08] <matt__> I've got Kubuntu 9.04 with KDE 4.2.4.  I'm wanting to update to Firefox 3.0.11, is it best to wait for the update to show in the repository?  I'm not seeing it yet.
[05:10] <m4v> matt__: you need the update?
[05:10] <avihayb> well, the laptop is gone to nonresponsiveness
[05:10] <ner0x> HOw well does Kubuntu work on VirtualBox
[05:11] <doleyb> matt__: ubuntu doesn't really try to track version updates like that
[05:11] <avihayb> I managed to alt+PrnScr+S and +u, but it doesn't +b...
[05:11] <matt__> m4v How do I update to Firefox 3.0.11?
[05:11] <avihayb> or +k
[05:11] <m4v> matt__: i asked first
[05:12] <m4v> matt__: do you really need the update? if no, then wait.
[05:12] <matt__> No, it's not totally necessary...I'll wait.
[05:13] <matt__> thanks.
[05:13] <m4v> matt__: but it won't probably show until karmic
[05:13] <m4v> matt__: is like doleyb said
[05:14] <doleyb> karmic!  whens that!?
[05:14] <matt__> so I could, at my own risk of course, try to install it myself or from a third party repository.
[05:14] <m4v> doleyb: october
[05:15] <m4v> matt__: yes you can, I don't recommend it though
[05:16] <matt__> m4v I think I'll just play it safe and stay with Firefox 3.0.10 then, I appreciate the kind help
[05:17] <m4v> np
[05:51] <avihayb> fyi, I just noticed that the new firefox package is ready in the repositories in my country
[06:14] <Guest66584> bueno
[06:16] <Serpardum> is the cirrus_drv.so source code unavailable??
[06:31] <leetlargo> hey can some one offer some knowledge?
[06:32] <leetlargo> i'm new to ubuntu and i'm trying to install ardour but i don't know how to run source codes all i have is the package
[06:34] <robin0800> !ardour
[06:35] <leetlargo> damn, well do u know how to run source codes
[06:35] <leetlargo> well run packages
[06:56] <aditya> if i try to go to shipit.kubuntu.org i get a msg saying the site doesnt use a valid certificate - does this mean the site isnt safe? :D
[06:59] <Kubou> Need Help with WPA2 Wifi access Kubuntu 9.04 plaz
[07:04] <Kubou> evidently I need help with quassel.. can anyone read this?
[07:32] <Ping0> how come i cant install flash player on ubuntu 9.04?
[07:32] <ahmad-> hi
[07:32] <Ping0> hi
[07:33] <Ping0> how come i cant install flash player on ubuntu 9.04 64bit?
[07:33] <ahmad-> i have no idea
[07:33] <Ping0> :(
[07:33] <ahmad-> maybe its not supported ?
[07:34] <Kubou> Need help logging onto a WPA2 Wifi Kubuntu 9.04
[07:34] <Ping0> it keeps teling me wrong architecture?
[07:34] <ahmad-> is it AMD ?
[07:34] <Ping0> yes
[07:35] <Ping0> is that bad?
[07:39] <CEGASO> BUENOS DÍAS QUE TAL ? HAVER SI ME PUEDE AYUDAR ALGUIEN CON UN PROBLEMA CON MI PC SE TRATA DE QUE NO PUEDO ESCRIBIR , PARA ESCRIBIR LE TENCO QUE DARLE MUCHAS VECES A LA TECLA
[07:40] <iivv> i just got the error "you need to fork!" from the update manager....
[07:40] <Kubou> did an install of Kubuntu 9.04 on a laptop offline. It seems that Aptitude is not looking for packages on the network. I can use konquerer now that I am plugged in. I have reset the Kpackage manager also. What other options do I have.. It is a clean install
[07:40] <ahmad-> ISA server drivin me crazy
[07:44] <Kubou> I don't even get updates
[07:58] <_motti_> hi all. is it possible to edit annotation in okular?
[08:06] <myself> does ktorrent create a bunch of new folders for archive information
[08:06] <myself> or is that another thing
[08:06] <myself> im pretty sure its ktorrnet
[08:15] <dROg> myself: i don't see ktorrent doing something like that
[08:16] <myself> okay
[08:17] <Mamarok> myself: ktorrent stores the files where you tell it to do so
[08:17] <myself> i see
[08:18] <myself> i just remember having a torrent client when  i was trying a bunch create a bunch of new folders in the place where it stored torrents too
[08:18] <myself> with some wierd archive information
[08:18] <Mamarok> myself: a bit confusing what you write
[08:18] <myself> okay dude so basically along with
[08:18] <myself> the original files
[08:18] <myself> there were extra folders
[08:19] <myself> with random files in them that just had information about the torrents not the actual torrent file
[08:19] <myself> s
[08:19] <Mamarok> myself: if the torrent contains folders, then yes, of course
[08:19] <myself> i've never had that with any other torrent client
[08:20] <Mamarok> myself: that has nothing to do with the client, it's the actual torrent you download, if it contains folders, then you get folders :)
[08:20] <myself> no mamarok
[08:20] <myself> okay, you're misunderstanding me, say the folders and the files are all normalyl there
[08:20] <myself> but there are additional folders with files in them that just contain information about the actual folders/files
[08:20] <Mamarok> as subfolders?
[08:24] <myself> mamarok, they were folders that were not even subfolders as i remember, they were just additional folders with some sort of archiving files in them
[08:24] <myself> i'm not sure what client this was
[08:25] <Mamarok> myself: probably something wrong in your settings then, never seen that with ktorrent so far
[08:25] <myself> i dont think it was ktorrent
[08:25] <myself> i was trying out a bunch of torrent clients
[08:25] <myself> one of them did that
[08:26] <myself> but since you say its not, thats cool, i was just thinking about getting ktorrent again since i found out a way to get it to work with one of the trackers im on when it didn't before
[08:43] <avihayb> how do I get out of an ssh session if the remote machine has crashed?
[08:46] <GreydMiyu> It doesn't just disconnect on its own?
[08:46] <navetz> if something is liscensed as GPL that means you can't sell it but you can sell the installation and setup of the software correct?
[08:47] <GreydMiyu> avihayb: ~.
[08:47] <avihayb> nope
[08:47] <GreydMiyu> navetz: You can sell it.
[08:47] <FeasibilityStudy> navetz no.  Basically the GPL says you can freely distribute and or sell the code, but you must also provide any modifications to the code.
[08:47] <Mamarok> navetz: you can sell GPL software
[08:48] <Mamarok> you have to provide the code to the customer on request
[08:48] <FeasibilityStudy> So you cant use GPL code, modify it, and then close source it
[08:48] <Mamarok> FeasibilityStudy: nope, no way :)
[08:49] <Mamarok> that would be against the license terms
[08:49] <navetz> Mamarok FeasibilityStudy: ah okay. What you have something propriotary and you are using a GPL plugin. Does all your code now become GPL?
[08:49] <FeasibilityStudy> Mamarok, I wasnt asking, I was telling
[08:49] <GreydMiyu> Anyone here decent with networking?  In the past few days I've had a problem with my VM.  I haven an OpenVPN connection to a Debian box.  Recently it started matching all inbound traffic with outbound traffic and I cannot figure out why.
[08:49] <Mamarok> FeasibilityStudy: no, you can't
[08:49] <GreydMiyu> navetz: No.
[08:50] <GreydMiyu> navetz: The plugin's license does not alter the license of the program to which it was programmed for.
[08:50] <FeasibilityStudy> In fact this is an issue with the routr firmware, DD-WRT.  Some people claim the guy has violated GPL.
[08:50] <GreydMiyu> navetz: A great example is World of Warcraft.  The game is obviously closed source but many of the Addons fans write for the game are GPLed.
[08:51] <Mamarok> FeasibilityStudy: if the GPL code is integrated made closed then it's a license violation
[08:51] <FeasibilityStudy> Mamarok I know.  I wasnt asking.  I was responding to navetz as you were.
[08:51] <Mamarok> FeasibilityStudy: link to that?
[08:51] <GreydMiyu> FeasibilityStudy: I think Mamarok is not grasping the concept of why we put names at the front of what we're saying?  :D
[08:52] <FeasibilityStudy> Mamarok google.  There are several bloggers posting about DD-WRT's less than ethical practices.
[08:52] <doleyb> GreydMiyu: maybe ##networking will help
[08:52] <Mamarok> GreydMiyu: don't worry, I do
[08:52] <GreydMiyu> doleyb: Thanks, I'll give them a try.
[08:52] <Mamarok> guys, this is very much OT here, please take this discussion to #kubuntu-offtopic
[08:52] <GreydMiyu> ... hehehe...
[08:53] <navetz> this is interesting what if you create a website and use some GPL plugins but dont want to release the whole website code. is that a violation?
[08:53] <GreydMiyu> OT for an irc channel, now I've seen it all.
[08:53] <Mamarok> navetz: OT, please
[08:53] <Mamarok> GreydMiyu: this is a support channel, not a discussion channel
[08:54] <GreydMiyu> True, but GPL is germain to KUbuntu in some respect.  Not like we're talking about how trashy Lindsey Lohan is this week.  :P
[08:55] <FeasibilityStudy> GreydMiyu lol
[08:55] <Mamarok> GreydMiyu: it still is OT, as it's a discussion, so please
[08:58] <FeasibilityStudy> I think Lindsey lohan is licensed under the GPL.  She is always open for viewing.
[08:59] <myself> is there a deb package or repository for ktorrent 3.2.2 anywhere ?
[08:59] <GreydMiyu> FeasibilityStudy: ...
[08:59] <Mamarok> well, he has been warned
[09:00] <Mamarok> FeasibilityStudy: there is a channel for discussions, told you so
[09:00] <FeasibilityStudy> Mamarok sorry.  It is late and I am delerious
[09:01] <Mamarok> FeasibilityStudy: just respect the channel rules, please.
[09:09] <eagles0513875> hey guys im having issues with firefox after the update taht was released for it. im on kubuntu 9.04 64bit
[09:09] <eagles0513875> anyone able to help me
[09:11] <Mamarok> eagles0513875: what issues?
[09:11] <wawa> hi all. is it possible to edit annotation in okular?
[09:12] <eagles0513875> Mamarok: error launching browser window: no xbl bindings for browser
[09:12] <avihayb> wawa: I used to deleate them and rewritem from scratch
[09:13] <Mamarok> eagles0513875: did you restart it?
[09:13] <Mamarok> avihayb: that's hardly the solution...
[09:13] <eagles0513875> Mamarok: im trying to do that now
[09:13] <avihayb> I agree
[09:13] <Mamarok> eagles0513875: when you have updates of a running app...
[09:14] <Mamarok> wawa: there is a review tool, but you will have to adapt the settings first
[09:14] <eagles0513875> Mamarok: would deleting the .mozilla or is it .firefox hidden folder should it fix the issue
[09:15] <Mamarok> eagles0513875: you still didn't tell what version you are tlaking about
[09:15] <Mamarok> talking*
[09:15] <eagles0513875> Mamarok: 3.0
[09:16] <wawa> Mamarok: I'm talking about the review tool. I want to edit remarks I created with that tool. all I can do is editing notes. how can I "adapt the setting" otherwise
[09:16] <wawa> ?
[09:16] <Mamarok> wawa: obey DRM regulations is activated by default, remove it
[09:17] <Mamarok> eagles0513875: and what update was it?
[09:17] <eagles0513875> Mamarok: seems like it was an update to firefox itself and the xul runner
[09:17]  * Mamarok has seen the xul runner update only
[09:17] <wawa> Mamarok: do I need to restart okular? do I get to eddit old inline notes?
[09:18] <Mamarok> wawa: try it, I don't know, usually if you apply the settings on your own document it should work without restarting
[09:19] <eagles0513875> Mamarok: whats the original version of firefox thats in repos is it 3.0.8+nobinonly-0ubuntu3 0
[09:20] <Mamarok> !info firefox
[09:20] <wawa> Mamarok: I can edit new notes, thanks. I think it can be much better tool then it is today. I hope there is some development
[09:20] <Mamarok> eagles0513875: that is the default, no idea why you have such an old one
[09:20] <eagles0513875> Mamarok: i have the version listed above i think that was what the update was in addition to the xul runner
[09:20] <Mamarok> wawa: free software is always work in progress :)
[09:21] <Mamarok> eagles0513875: the 3.0.11 is the version shipped by default
[09:21] <eagles0513875> is it a possibility that removing the firefox hidden folder would fix the issue
[09:21] <eagles0513875> gotcha
[09:22] <Mamarok> eagles0513875: of course it is possible, and you should know it since the time...
[09:22] <eagles0513875> ok
[09:23] <eagles0513875> that didnt do it gonna try purge and reinstall
[09:24] <eagles0513875> Mamarok: seems like there is some other underlying problem here
[09:24] <Mamarok> eagles0513875: didn't you do a clean instll lately?
[09:25] <Mamarok> install*
[09:25] <eagles0513875> ya this is on the clean install
[09:25] <eagles0513875> after running the updates today
[09:25] <Mamarok> nothing beta running?
[09:25] <eagles0513875> nope
[09:26] <Mamarok> eagles0513875: then I don't know, maybe purge and reinstall solves it
[09:26]  * Mamarok has no problems here
[09:26] <eagles0513875> tried that already
[09:26] <eagles0513875> should i try purge xulrunner
[09:27]  * eagles0513875 wonders how i broke firefox
[09:27] <Mamarok> eagles0513875: plugins...
[09:27] <eagles0513875> none except the flash one from kubuntu-restricted-extras
[09:31] <eagles0513875> !info xulrunner
[09:31] <eagles0513875> Mamarok: you need to have xulrunner installed for firefox to work right
[09:32] <Mamarok> eagles0513875: well, it seems to be a dependency, no?
[09:33] <eagles0513875> that is strange after purging firefox and reinstalling it didnt seem to pull it as well
[09:33] <eagles0513875> humm that still didnt fix the issue :(
[09:33] <Mamarok> eagles0513875: well, then it is not a dependency I guess
[09:34] <eagles0513875> ok
[09:34] <Hexagown> Hello guys, I have a pritty big problem, I'v downloaded Kubuntu 9.04, burned it to a cd and booted from it, but in the middle of the installation I get an Error message, saying "input/output failure" or something like that, and then it says, eather its you'r CD thats is borken, or the harddrive, and I'v Tried to burn Kubuntu 7-8 times with diffrent programms and stuffs, so can someone help me out?
[09:34] <Mamarok> Hexagown: did you check the md4sum of the iso before burning?
[09:35] <Hexagown> Im pritty new with all this stuffs... what is md4sum?
[09:35] <Mamarok> Hexagown: that is a checksum of the iso package, to make sure you have a working copy
[09:36] <Hexagown> In the Kubuntu Iso fime there is a document called md5sum....
[09:36] <Mamarok> Hexagown: if an iso fails, burning it with different devices doesn't help
[09:37] <Hexagown> I know, but iv even tried to download it and burned it from another computer, with the same result.
[09:37] <eagles0513875> Hexagown: you tried using a slower burn speed
[09:37] <Hexagown> Iv burned it with x8 speed...
[09:38] <eagles0513875> Hexagown: we talking bout the cd iso or dvd iso here
[09:38] <Mamarok> Hexagown: you need to check that the number in this text file is the same than the one generated with md5sum *.iso
[09:38] <Mamarok> eagles0513875: please, I handle it...
[09:38] <eagles0513875> ok Mamarok
[09:39] <Mamarok> Hexagown: if the numbers are identical, then the iso is ok
[09:40] <Mamarok> Hexagown: then burn it with low speed, 4x should do
[09:40] <Hexagown> Okay, what numbers, becous there is like 1 milion signs in that document, do I need a specially programm to read that file?
[09:40] <Mamarok> Hexagown: what burning tools did you use?
[09:40] <Hexagown> In Nero x8 is the slowest...
[09:41] <Hexagown> Nero v9
[09:41] <Mamarok> Hexagown: the md5sum file is a text file, you can open it with any text editor
[09:41] <Mamarok> Hexagown: you can force lower speed, check the settings
[09:41] <Hexagown> Okay, when I open it, what numbers shall I read?
[09:42] <Mamarok> Hexagown: but the file contains a lot of numbers, just compare those with the numbers generated with the command md5sum <yourfile>.iso
[09:43] <Mamarok> Hexagown: normally Nero should offer you the possibilty to check the md5sum of an iso file too
[09:43] <Mamarok> what iso is it, amd64?
[09:43] <Hexagown> It's an 32-bit version.
[09:44] <Hexagown> but I have an amd64 processor...
[09:44] <Mamarok> the number looks like this:
[09:44] <Mamarok> 798b8789af2f13bb9687b2ce57f25f9c  Downloads/ISO/kubuntu-9.04-desktop-amd64.iso
[09:45] <Hexagown> 2a7216bf9ae5ad9757f82db8536e6772  ./casper/filesystem.manifest
[09:45] <Hexagown> ?+
[09:45] <Hexagown> can't find download in the file.
[09:45] <Hexagown> Serched in both the iso at the compuer and at the cd.
[09:46] <eagles0513875> Mamarok: seems like running an fsck check in init 1 fixed the issue
[09:48] <Mamarok> Hexagown: there is a md5sum file which is available on the server for each iso file
[09:48] <Mamarok> Hexagown: what is the name of your iso file exactly?
[09:49] <Hexagown> Yes, Iv found that one in the kubuntu-9.04-desktop-i386.iso.
[09:49] <Hexagown> and the name of that file is: md5sum.txt
[09:49] <Mamarok> Hexagown: wait, I'll check with the checksum online...
[09:50] <Hexagown> k
[09:50] <Mamarok> Hexagown: your md5sum should be 537a22de1342d5671b7e0070f66a6076
[09:51] <Hexagown> Is that the first numbers in that file?
[09:51] <Mamarok> according to this website: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes
[09:51] <Mamarok> Hexagown: this is the number for your iso, check the line
[09:51] <Hexagown> This is the first Symbols in that file,  2a7216bf9ae5ad9757f82db8536e6772
[09:52] <Mamarok> Hexagown: could you paste the content of your file here: http://paste.ubuntu.com and give the URL, please?
[09:53] <Mamarok> Hexagown: there are more than one line, and each gives you the checksum for a particular iso
[09:53] <Hexagown> http://paste.ubuntu.com/194900/
[09:53] <Hexagown> Think thats it.
[09:54] <Mamarok> Hexagown: oh, you misunderstood what I said, sorry :)
[09:55] <Mamarok> Hexagown: are you on Linux right now?
[09:55] <Hexagown> No, I can't install it.
[09:56] <Hexagown> So At the moment I use Windows Xp
[09:57] <Mamarok> Hexagown: ok, so you need to download a tool to read the md5sum, check this website, please:
[09:57] <Mamarok> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM#MD5SUM%20on%20Windows
[09:57] <Hexagown> Shall I boot Kubuntu with the cd and drive the "test Version"?
[09:58] <Hexagown> ah ok
[09:58] <Mamarok> you should download the Cygwin tool
[09:59] <Mamarok> Hexagown: but of course you can also check the CD itself: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM#MD5SUM%20of%20burnt%20media
[10:01] <Hexagown> I have winMd5Sum now.
[10:02] <Mamarok> Hexagown: ok, then check your ISO
[10:02] <Hexagown> 1 sek.
[10:03] <Hexagown> Yeap, they are the same, 537a22de1342d5671b7e0070f66a6076
[10:07] <eagles0513875> !persistent
[10:07] <eagles0513875> !usb
[10:08] <federico> alguien esp?
[10:09] <eagles0513875> !es | federico
[10:11] <Hexagown> Do you have anny solution, Hamarok?
[10:19] <Mamarok> Hexagown: sorry, was afk
[10:19] <Hexagown> Okay, np :)
[10:19] <Hexagown> Well, the numbers matched.
[10:19] <Mamarok> Hexagown: you should check the bunrt media too, see the link I posted above, to be sure there was no burning problem
[10:20] <Mamarok> burnt* media even
[10:20] <Hexagown> Witch one of them?
[10:20] <Hexagown>  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM#MD5SUM%20of%20burnt%20media
[10:20] <Hexagown> ?
[10:20] <Mamarok> Hexagown: yes
[10:21] <Hexagown> Hmm, isen't this guide for the Konsole in Linux? or does it work in Windows too?
[10:24] <Hexagown> Ah, well I'v tried to use "Check for defects" WHen I booted, and it said that it was 1 error.  And it kept being 1 error event tough I burned Kubuntu 8 times...
[10:24] <Hexagown> Like this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/CDIntegrityCheck?action=show&redirect=CDIntegrityCheck
[10:27] <Mamarok> Hexagown: ouch, is there a possibility to get that iso burnt by someone else or get a CD?
[10:28] <Hexagown> Iv tried it at to computers...
[10:28] <Mamarok> Hexagown: could well be the drive is the culprit
[10:28] <Hexagown> the cd driver?
[10:29] <Mamarok> the drive or the burning software, but Nero usually does integrity checks, no?
[10:29] <eagles0513875> Mamarok: you tell it to verify the cd as it starts burning
[10:29] <Hexagown> Yes, I think it does.
[10:30] <Mamarok> Hexagown: of course the media can be a problem too, very cheap CDs are sometimes not recommended
[10:30]  * Mamarok had quite some problems with cheap CDs
[10:31] <Hexagown> Okay well, guess those are kind of cheap.
[10:31] <Hexagown> haha :)
[10:31] <Mamarok> on a 50 CD pack half were crap :(
[10:31] <Hexagown> But I have an usb-memmory, is it possible to boot from that?
[10:31] <Hexagown> outch, well, this is a 50-pack too... Might be the problem...
[10:32] <Mamarok> Hexagown: yes, of course, if your BIOS supports booting from USB devices
[10:32] <Hexagown> I have no idea how to make an USB-memmory bootable...
[10:32] <Hexagown> Okay...
[10:32] <Mamarok> !usb | Hexagown
[10:32] <Mamarok> there you go :)
[10:32] <Hexagown> Well, can we speak later? Becous I have to go for about 30-45 mins...
[10:33] <Mamarok> no problem, ping me when you are back :)
[10:33] <Hexagown> Thnx, Okay see ya, and thnx for the help!
[10:35] <Mamarok> yaw :)
[10:37] <mib_evs2l8> e
[11:01] <avihayb> On kubuntu startup, when it tryes to load the sql deamon, it says it fails, should I be worried?
[11:09] <ubuntu> you people like KDE4?
[11:25] <eagles0513875> !ot | ubuntu
[11:28] <mkargar_> hello!how to disable webinterface in Fiber Home modem?(I want create ppp0 connection by pppoeconf,but,i recieve this error!!!:http://paste.ubuntu.com:80/192688/
[11:29] <mkargar_> mkargar:webInterface(in FiberHome) using PPP0 interface!!!
[11:33] <mkargar_> please help me!!
[11:39]  * RelookNA is back.
[11:39] <tsimpson> RelookNA: please disable that
[11:39] <mkargar_> hello!how to disable webinterface in Fiber Home modem?(I want create ppp0 connection by pppoeconf,but,i recieve this error!!!:http://paste.ubuntu.com:80/192688/
[11:39] <mkargar_> mkargar:webInterface(in FiberHome) using PPP0 interface!!!
[11:40] <tsimpson> !ppp
[11:44] <mkargar_> ubottu:hmmm!my problem is ppp0 interface!webinterface in fiber home modem using ppp0 interface!i want disble it!how to?
[11:44] <mkargar_> ubottu:i want connection by ADSL modem(PPPOE)!
[11:45] <mkargar_> tsimpson:why ppp?
[11:45]  * Hexagown slaps Mamarok around a bit with a large trout
[11:45] <Hexagown> hello :)
[11:45] <tsimpson> mkargar_: have a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE
[11:46] <mkargar_> tsimpson:i studied it!!but,my probel not solved!!!
[11:47] <tsimpson> mkargar_: I haven't used pppoe, you may have better luck asking in #ubuntu (more eyes)
[11:47] <eagles0513875> Hexagown: just type the name and ping next time
[11:48] <Hexagown> Okay, sorry.
[11:48] <Mamarok> Hexagown: ouch, that hurts :(
[11:48] <mkargar_> tsimpson:ok!
[11:48] <Mamarok> Hexagown: sorry, afk
[11:49] <Hexagown> I have a question, if I want to use a USB-memory instead of a CD to get Kubuntu from, how do I do? becous When Iv put the Iso file at the memory, and restart, it wont boot.
[11:49] <Hexagown> Sorry mate! :D
[11:49] <tsimpson> !install
[11:50] <Hexagown> ty
[11:50] <eagles0513875> Hexagown: download unetbootin and point it to othe iso then your usb device it will create the bootable live usb for you. unetbootin there is for both windows and linux
[11:50] <Mamarok> Hexagown: also, I gave you a link on how to install it on a an USB key earlier
[11:51] <Hexagown> Okay, thnx, I'll check it out.
[12:17] <millun> hi
[12:17] <millun> i have a problem with audio playback - in Skype and Amarok
[12:18] <Mamarok> millun: on Kubuntu 9.04?
[12:18] <millun> yeah
[12:19] <Mamarok> millun: what is the exact problem?
[12:19] <millun> skype says "problem with audio playback" when i try to call
[12:20] <millun> Amarok just thinks it is playing the track
[12:23] <asraniel> i can't install the debug packages for kde 4.3 beta2, is this normal? (kubuntu 9.04)
[12:23] <Mamarok> millun: you have the codecs installed?
[12:23] <Mamarok> asraniel: a Qt version problem I think, just be patient
[12:24] <asraniel> Mamarok: good, just wanted to know if i'm the only one, because testing without debug packages doesn't make that much sense ;-)
[12:24] <Mamarok> asraniel: some packages are ok, some are not AFAIK
[12:25] <asraniel> Mamarok: jeah i need kdebase-dbg (i think) for plasma
[12:25] <millun> sure i got the codecs installed
[12:25] <millun> mplayer works
[12:25] <millun> so does VLC
[12:25] <millun> i've installed kubuntu-restricted-extras
[12:26] <Mamarok> millun: make sure to use the phonon-xine-backend
[12:26] <millun> i thought i'd get it preinstalled
[12:27] <millun> anyway, how do i do that?
[12:27] <Mamarok> millun: go to Systemsettings -> Multimedia, the second tab
[12:28] <millun> got that
[12:29] <Mamarok> millun: you do have sound in the first tab when you click on the soundcard test, do you?
[12:31] <millun> yes
[12:32] <millun> what's LFE stand for?
[12:32] <Mamarok> millun: your tracks have regular filenames, no special characters?
[12:32] <millun> yeah
[12:32] <Mamarok> LFE where?
[12:32] <millun> in the mixer
[12:33] <Mamarok> kmix is sometimes a tad mysterious...
[12:33] <Mamarok> your master channel is selected correctly, nothing muted?
[12:33] <Mamarok> millun: forgot to ask, what version of Amarok do you use?
[12:34] <millun> hold on a second. it for some reason started to work
[12:34] <Mamarok> millun: great!
[12:34] <millun> amarok i mean
[12:34] <millun> skype still gives me "problem with audio playback"
[12:35] <Mamarok> millun: well, for Skype I can't help, sorry
[12:35] <millun> i thought so, mamarok
[12:35] <millun> cheers anyway
[12:35] <Mamarok> :)
[12:35] <millun> i just unmuted LFE i think
[12:36] <Mamarok> the Skype sound settings are very strange, I had to mute stuff for no apparent reason
[12:38]  * RelookNA_away is away: Gone away for now
[12:39] <Mamarok> !away > RelookNA_away
[12:48] <edmond> ...
[12:48] <Mamarok> edmond: do you have a question?
[12:57] <Yanick_> hi, I have a fr_CA keyboard, and I need to map the spanish n tilde, how can I achieve that?
[13:01] <Mamarok> Yanick_: it's on the ^key with AltGr on the CH-fr
[13:03] <Yanick_> Mamarok, what key?
[13:03] <Mamarok> Yanick_: don't you have a "Accent circonflexe" key?
[13:03] <Yanick_> pressing AltGr + ^ gives [ for me (as indicated on the keyboard)
[13:03] <Yanick_> Mamarok, I would map AltGr+n if I could....
[13:03] <Mamarok> oh, right, that's an azerty keyboard, sorry
[13:04] <Yanick_> :)
[13:04] <Mamarok> Yanick_: no visible tilde somewhere?
[13:04] <Yanick_> nope
[13:04] <Yanick_> oh
[13:04] <Yanick_> yeah, on the ; (:) key = AltGr+; => ~
[13:05] <Mamarok> great :)
[13:05] <Yanick_> but I can't make ~n out of it
[13:05] <Mamarok> hm, maybe you need to map the fr-CA with latin?
[13:05] <Yanick_> no, because then my è is messed up
[13:05] <Yanick_> (à likewise)
[13:06] <Mamarok> hm, try some other combinations, eventually just fr plain or does this cause you problems?
[13:06] <Yanick_> why can't I just map AltGr+n ?
[13:07] <Yanick_> (and eventually Shit+AltGr+n = N tilde)
[13:08] <Yanick_> I saw this article : http://simos.info/blog/archives/747 but the app doesn't seem to in the synaptics
[13:08] <Yanick_> */the/on
[13:09] <Mamarok> Yanick_: which app?
[13:09] <Yanick_> Keyboard Layout Editor (KLE)
[13:10] <Yanick_> or some similar tool as a matter of fact
[13:10] <Mamarok> Yanick_: there is a link in that blog :) -> http://code.google.com/p/keyboardlayouteditor/
[13:10] <Mamarok> hm, let me see for the packages here...
[13:11] <Mamarok> !shortcuts
[13:11] <Yanick_> Mamarok, I see the link, but I've had bad experiences with installing custom packages (even building from sources), so I was looking for a more "official" solution
[13:11] <Mamarok> Yanick_: see the links above please
[13:11] <Yanick_> I'll take a look
[13:12] <Mamarok> those are the official solutions :)
[13:14] <Yanick_> keytouch sounds promising
[13:16] <untitled> if I build a kernel myself, how do I make this fancy bootsplash again?
[13:18] <xxx1234>  hello i sitting here to my first linus distribution
[13:18] <xxx1234> how can i hack homepages??
[13:19] <xxx1234> sorry my english isn very well
[13:19] <bazhang> !ot | xxx1234
[13:19] <bazhang> xxx1234, that is not supported here
[13:20] <untitled> bazhang: you know about the bootsplash?
[13:20] <bazhang> !usplash
[13:21] <Yanick_> Mamarok, in keytouch editor, how can I retrieve the current keyboard layout? I got a blank map (new) keymap
[13:26] <Mamarok> Yanick_: wait, will have to try myself :)
[13:26] <ShishKabab> Hello. I'd like to install Kubuntu on an old PC that doesn't boot from CD (it says something about the boot sector being corrupted) and doesn't have a floppy disk drive. How do I do that? The PC does have an option to boot from network, but I don't know how it works...
[13:27]  * RelookNA is back.
[13:28] <chaos2fu> ShishKabab have u set in bios to boot first from the cd?
[13:28] <chaos2fu> it sounds like the computer is trying to boot from harddrive first...:-(
[13:30] <Mamarok> Yanick_: the editor is only to creat new maps, so it's normal that it is blank I guess
[13:30] <Mamarok> Yanick_: wouldn't keytouch be more appropriate?
[13:30] <ShishKabab> chaos2fu: Yes, and the second boot option is HDD (which contains Windows XP).
[13:31] <Yanick_> Mamarok, It might, I just wasn't sure how to map new keys, I'll taka a look again. But If I could, I would save my layout and send it to http://keytouch.sourceforge.net/keyboards_dell.php 's listing
[13:31] <Yanick_> I have an XPS 16
[13:32] <Yanick_> ... since it is not official
[13:32] <Gamarok__> hey guys
[13:32] <Yanick_> Mamarok, actually, my keyboard isn't even listed in keytouch editor
[13:33] <Yanick_> Mamarok, so, I wanted to import the current layout and save it appropriately
[13:33] <Mamarok> Yanick_: hm, that's a problem then, did you try the Keyboard&Mouse settings or the regional settings first?
[13:33] <Yanick_> yes, but that doesn't solve my original problem of mapping AltGr+n to n tilde
[13:35] <Mamarok> Yanick_: well, did you tr< playing with the fr-xx options of the keyboard? it worked for me
[13:35]  * Mamarok has a CH keyboard with fr and de layout
[13:35] <Yanick_> Mamarok, what do you mean by "playing with the fr-xx options"?
[13:36] <Mamarok> the default fr keyboard should allow the ñ
[13:36] <Mamarok> Yanick_: in the region settings, add another layout and try the ñ
[13:36] <Yanick_> Mamarok, I don't want to change the layout, because every other layout does not correspond to my keys (ex: another layout doesn't map { like where it is right now)
[13:37] <Yanick_> the current layout is the correct one, and none other is
[13:37] <Yanick_> but I don't have the n tilde
[13:37] <Yanick_> and my keyboard is not listed in keytouch
[13:37] <Yanick_> so how can I import it into keytouch? current mapping
[13:38] <Mamarok> hm, no idea, never tried that
[13:38] <Yanick_> in other word, how can I create a new keytouch file based on the current layout?
[13:38] <Yanick_> :)
[13:38] <Yanick_> the current implementation of keytouch is 1) import an already made file, or 2) create a new one from scratch. There's no 3) create a new one based on current mappings
[13:57] <ShishKabab> Anyone: No solutions? I already have Windows installed. Can't I install Kubuntu from there?
[13:58] <waltzingalong> ShishKabab: yes. wubi is one such route
[14:00] <ShishKabab> waltzingalong: I thought that Wubi only installs inside Windows. I'd like to replace Windows with Kubuntu.
[14:02] <Dragnslcr> Wubi creates a virtual disk within the Windows filesystem, then adds an option to the Windows boot menu, so it's basically a dual-boot system
[14:02] <Dragnslcr> If you want to just wipe out Windows completely, you can just install Kubuntu normally
[14:04] <waltzingalong> ShishKabab: ie installing from a desktop/alternate cd. the guide at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide mentions getting rid of windows entirely from an existing wubi installation.
[14:07] <ShishKabab> waltzingalong: That's the problem: the PC can't boot from a CD and doesn't have a floppy drive. I'll look into the guide you gave me. Thanks!
[14:14] <ChrisBuchholz> Hi, i'm on kubuntu 9.04 and using firefox as browser. I've installed the gtk-qt-engine and applied that KDE should also render the default theme in gtk apps, but what i got now, is something that looks like the oxygene theme, but fails all the time. Flaws everywhere like disappering scrollbar that reappears when i scrollagain. Is there a better way to make firefox look like KDE Oxygene theme?
[14:15] <Mamarok> ChrisBuchholz: there is a plugin awailable IIRC
[14:15] <ChrisBuchholz> IIRC?
[14:16] <Mamarok> If I Remeember Correctly :)
[14:16] <Mamarok> -e
[14:17] <ChrisBuchholz> oh - can you find it for me, or guide me to where i should look for it?
[14:17] <Mamarok> ChrisBuchholz: just use the add plugins link and search for Oxygen or KDE4
[14:18] <ChrisBuchholz> oh, you mean like an addon to firefox? I 've tried a few, but none of them looks great at all!
[14:19] <Mamarok> ChrisBuchholz: there is one made by Harald Sitter that looks quite ok here, but the problem still is that Firefox uses another codebase, so don't expect miracles
[14:19] <yakuzi> what i don't like is the following..even if you choose the unbranded firefox, it install a lot of gnome stuff i didn't ask for? (like synaptic)
[14:20] <Mamarok> yakuzi: reead what I said above :)
[14:20] <Mamarok> and firefox will not install synaptic AFAIK
[14:21] <ChrisBuchholz> mamarok: where did you find it? I can't find anything made by harald sitter. Whats the name of the theme?
[14:21] <Mamarok> ChrisBuchholz: wait, I'll check
[14:22] <Yanick_> when I press "Previous" (prev track) it increases the volume :P how can I fix that?
[14:23] <Mamarok> ChrisBuchholz: it's called KDE4 + Firefox3, but will not work with Firefox 3.5 aka Shirteoko
[14:23] <Mamarok> Yanick_: systemsettings -> Keyboard&Mouse
[14:23] <ChrisBuchholz> okay, i'll try it
[14:24] <yakuzi> well Mamarok it installed a lot of gnome stuff instead of the browser only...
[14:25] <Mamarok> yakuzi: again, that *is* normal as it is a GTK app...
[14:25] <Yanick_> Mamarok, where is the config file for that?
[14:25] <Mamarok> Yanick_: hm, must be something sound related, check in the list on the top
[14:26] <Mamarok> global keyboard shortcuts, try the Amarok settings
[14:26] <ShishKabab> waltzingalong: I'm beginning this PC is done for. I can't even boot into Windows anymore. I get a BSOD at startup saying UNMOUNTABLE_BOOT_VOLUME. The PC does have a network boot option. Do you happen to know anything about that?
[14:27] <yakuzi> well maybe so...but still then i don't need add/remove packages, software sources and Synaptic...and it is there because i see it in my K menu
[14:27] <Yanick_> Mamarok, it's not a sound related problem, or I don't know where it is defined
[14:27] <Mamarok> yakuzi: sorry, don't get it, what is wrong?
[14:28] <Mamarok> Yanick_: you can change the shortcuts there, just have a look, there are quite a few apps with shortcuts and I don't know everything by heart...
[14:28] <yakuzi> well, i just installed the abrowser version of firefox...still i get: firefox, the abrowser, syntaptic (i don't need that...even with GTK...)
[14:29] <Mamarok> well, why do you download the abrowser then?
[14:29] <Mamarok> just take firefox
[14:29] <Yanick_> Mamarok, perhaps the mapping to "Volume up" is wrong or something, because even remapping them all (all that I can find with Prev track or volume up) doesn't change a thing, pressing on Prev track increase the volume
[14:29] <yakuzi> i choose the abrowser to make sure i don't get any gnome stuff... and still it is there
[14:30] <Yanick_> Mamarok, do you know where the config file is located for the shortcut keys?
[14:30] <Mamarok> yakuzi: ... did you really understand what I said? GTK+ = Gnome, so if you download a GTK based browser you get Gnome stuff, and abrowser is as much GTK than everything else
[14:31] <Yanick_> Mamarok, plus, I don't even have kopete installed, why is it still there in the kde components?
[14:31] <Mamarok> just download the firefox-3.0 package, it will only give you the libraries
[14:31] <yakuzi> yes i know...but then again, it doesn't need synaptic....
[14:31] <Mamarok> Yanick_: these are default settings from KDE, just ignore it then if you don't hae it
[14:32] <Mamarok> yakuzi: firefox-3.0 doesn't have a synaptic dependency here...
[14:33] <Mamarok> yakuzi: and if you don't want any Gnome stuff, then don't use firefox there is konqueror, works fine here....
[14:34] <yakuzi> well i prefer firefox, nut it seems it was enough to manualy de-install synaptic...maybe a small mistake or something, stuff is gone now, but i still have firefox :p
[14:34] <Mamarok> ok, need some food now
[14:34] <Yanick_> Mamarok, do you know where is the config file for the keyboard layouts and key mappings (not a gui, the actual files)
[14:35] <Mamarok> Yanick_: check the .kde/share/config/ files
[14:35] <Yanick_> Mamarok, thanks
[14:36] <Mamarok> yaw :)
[14:36] <Yanick_> :/
[14:44] <Yanick_> I cannot file any file that would suggest keyboard mapping in ~/.kde/share/config
[14:45] <Quintasan> http://pastebin.com/f348b2700 <-- can anyone help me? I have squashfs-tools version 3.3 installed
[14:45] <Yanick_> there is the kglobalshortcutsrc, but that won't fixe the keyboard mapping of the "Prev"
[14:49] <Yanick_> why are there so many accounts for the Ubuntu site: Ubuntu forum, Ubuntu launchpad, Ubuntu FAQ, .....
[14:49] <Yanick_> ???
[14:50] <Mamarok> Yanick_: those are very different things, why do you ask?
[14:50] <Yanick_> I want to ask a question there
[14:51] <Mamarok> Yanick_: use the forums then, but if it is KDE related, ou should sue the Kubuntu forums
[14:51] <Yanick_> I want to know where is the file to change if I want to change a keyboard mapping? /etc/X11/xkb/base.xml doesn't seem to be what I want
[14:51] <Mamarok> use*
[14:51] <Mamarok> Yanick_: but search and google first, you might well find it without having to ask
[14:51] <Yanick_> I did search for the past two hours
[14:54] <Yanick_> the only relevant post I've seen is this one : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1943304 but it does not involve a configuration file (maybe I missed something...)
[14:54] <Mamarok> Yanick_: ask in #ubuntu, there are many more eyes
[14:59] <BluesKaj> howdy all
[15:30] <Kira_Light> I have problems with ktorrent always displaying the torrent file list. I have the command to execute as [ktorrent --silent %i -caption "%c" %u] but the file list keeps comming up instead of starting the torrent automatically. Any ideas?
[15:31] <desti> is there any kind of kubuntu netbook edition?
[15:33] <eagles0513875> desti: yes there is
[15:33] <eagles0513875> desti: let me get the link for you
[15:33] <eagles0513875> !netbook
[15:33] <arturo> there is a spanish  kubuntu channel?
[15:33] <eagles0513875> !es | arturo
[15:34] <arturo> ok.. tnsk
[15:34] <arturo> tnks
[15:34] <eagles0513875> no problem artu
[15:34] <eagles0513875> arturo:
[15:36] <eagles0513875> desti: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download-netbook
[15:41] <drurew> typically , where would mail sent to "root" be located ?
[15:43] <ChrisBuchholz> Hi, i was wondering if it is possible to get some kind of "you are know on desktop X" when you switch desktop? Like you know it from compiz and so on?
[15:43] <eagles0513875> drurew: /var/mail
[15:45] <Kira_Light> ktorrent --silent %i -caption "%c" %u is still displaying the torrent file list instead of starting the torrent automatically. Any ideas?
[15:53] <JuJuBee> Anybody using a palm treo 700p with kpilot / jpilot successfully?
[15:55] <Guest3101> does anybody know whyi dont a mac address when i am using nmap?
[15:56] <JuJuBee> I believe nmap uses layer 3 protocols to gather info
[15:57] <ChrisBuchholz> aint no way to get a notification of which desktop i've switched too?
[15:58] <ChrisBuchholz> to*
[16:04] <theuser1>  i installed windows and the grub menu at boot is gone. what should i do now?
[16:05] <Mamarok> !mbr
[16:05] <Mamarok> theuser1: see the link above :)
[16:06] <theuser1> thx
[16:08] <Mamarok> yaw :)
[16:18] <mjobin> i upgraded to Karmic, but i do not have plasmapkg binary anymore....
[16:31] <Mamarok> mjobin: karmic is alpha software...
[16:39] <lyuis> привет народ, у меня вопрос, аналог супер карамба для кубунту в гном как зовут ?
[16:40] <ign0ramus> hey, has anyone come across a file, that despite proper ownership and permissions, cannot be moved/copied/deleted/etc?
[16:42] <edward_> hola buenas tardes alguien me puede ayudar a instalar un ubuntu en mi minilapto siragon ml1010
[16:42] <BluesKaj> ign0ramus, deleting (rm -rf namoffile) doesn't work ?
[16:42] <ign0ramus> BluesKaj, not even that :(
[16:43] <BluesKaj> hmm , that's one I haven't encountred yet
[16:43] <ign0ramus> BluesKaj, its my /proc/mtrr file, which should be modified to enable write-combining, but nothing i've done will let me touch it
[16:44] <ign0ramus> BluesKaj, me neither.  I've changed ownership to my user, even chmod'd it 777, and i get 'permission' denied no matter what i try to do with it
[16:45] <ign0ramus> user@lappy:/proc$ sudo rm -Rf mtrr  > rm: cannot remove `mtrr': Operation not permitted
[16:46] <BluesKaj>  /proc/mtrr , what do you use to it with ?
[16:46] <BluesKaj> open
[16:46] <ign0ramus> BluesKaj, it's a memory allocation table that's used among other things, for graphics
[16:47] <ign0ramus> BluesKaj, as part of jaunty's Intel graphics suckfest, it's good to add a line to this file for better memory management, but i can't do a damn thing with it... i've never seen this before
[16:48] <ign0ramus> BluesKaj, kate as superuser can open it, but can't save
[16:50] <mjobin> Mamarok: do you think I am ignoring this ? does alpha means we should not talk about it ?
[16:50] <BluesKaj> yeah, i've had some probs with ffmpeg not quitting encode/decode after running /transferring files with pyTivo to the tivo on our LAN. It uses 80% of memory and 100% cpu
[16:56] <eagles0513875> im back guys
[16:58] <Zorael> Is there an "official" way to remove the cashew on the desktop when widgets are locked? Like with http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/I+HATE+the+Cashew?content=91009 except without downloading an external binary widget.
[17:01] <valgaav> Zorael: AFAIK no such way, at least in kde 4.2
[17:26] <rgarcia> Hi there! Does anybody know any program that's possible to change things in *.pdf format?
[17:27] <ubuntu> hello
[17:27] <rgarcia> !pdf
[17:28] <eagles0513875> rgarcia: pdfedit
[17:28] <eagles0513875> !info pdfedit
[17:29] <rgarcia> thnaks a lot eagles0513875
[17:29] <eagles0513875> no problem
[17:31] <Laeborg> hmm when I move a contact in kopete it isn't moved next time I sign in
[17:34] <rgarcia> eagles0513875: please take a look on what happened http://paste.ubuntu.com/195083/
[17:34] <eagles0513875> rgarcia: run this command sudo apt-get update then sudo apt-get install pdfedit
[17:34] <rgarcia> br archive is not working
[17:35] <eagles0513875> it could be that you just need to update
[17:35] <rgarcia> but even updating it can't connect to br archive
[17:35] <eagles0513875> try use different servers instead of the br ones maybe the main servers
[17:36] <rgarcia> ok..let me try
[17:39] <rgarcia> now it's ok....i tried us.archive
[17:39] <rgarcia> thanks a lot eagles0513875
[17:39] <eagles0513875> no problem rgarcia did it work
[17:44] <OrEvA> I changed my monitor from 17" CRT to 19" LCD and now I am not able to use the full view of my monitor ...................... plz help
[17:45] <rgarcia> yes...well...but now i have another problem...when i select any text, for me appear weard characteres...
[17:46] <DarkriftX> anyone know how to change the color of the text in those popups that you get when you hover over something (like urls) (cant remember what they are called)
[17:47] <OrEvA> I changed my monitor from 17" CRT to 19" LCD and now I am not able to use the full view of my monitor ...................... plz help
[17:48] <DarkriftX> repeating your question twice in 5 minutes will get you ignored
[17:50] <OrEvA> darkriftx : there is no display on the sides
[17:52] <cuznt> kde4.2.2 wifi tends to drift. or I lose connection is there a way to "lock" in a signal better?
[17:53] <cuznt> !wifi
[17:53] <cuznt> botsnacK!
[17:53] <cuznt> crap
[17:53] <cuznt> !botsnack
[17:54] <eagles0513875> hehhe
[17:54]  * cuznt forgets which irc he is using
[17:54] <eagles0513875> cuznt: just watch the language if you dont mind
[17:56] <OrEvA> I changed my monitor from 17" CRT to 19" LCD and now I am not able to use the full view of my monitor ...................... plz help
[17:56] <DarkriftX> where does kde 3x store its color scheme files?
[18:08] <Hexagown> Hello guys, I did a pritty stupid misstake, I accedently removed the panel, at the bottom, and I can't mannige to reset it agan...
[18:08] <arkanabar_> Is the cashew still in the upper right corner?
[18:09] <Hexagown> I'v found almost all the buttons I need, but I can't find the buttun that shows what windows I have running... can someone help me?
[18:09] <Hexagown> Yes it is.
[18:10] <arkanabar_> Ah.  So you're looking for a Task Manager widget for your panel, yes?
[18:10] <Hexagown> Thiks so...
[18:10] <Hexagown> think*
[18:11] <Hexagown> Now I have no idea what programs running, if I dont use Alt+tab...
[18:11] <arkanabar_> I wish to make sure I am understanding you correctly:  you have a panel, but no Task Manager in it.
[18:11] <Hexagown> Yes.
[18:11] <Laeborg> http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=181709 - i have this problem too
[18:12] <arkanabar_> Hexagown: I just tried right-clicking the panel cashew, selecting "Add widgets", put "Task" into the search box, and "Task Manager" came up.  Try that.
[18:13] <arkanabar_> me, I'd like to know how to find the sha256 hash on a file.
[18:13] <Hexagown> Ahh!! Iv looked for that one for 30 mins, and dident saw it haha, thnx for help
[18:14] <arkanabar_> Search is good.  I needed the search to find it too ;^)
[18:14] <Hexagown> ye, ur right :) ty for help
[18:19] <arkanabar_> How do I compute the SHA256 hash of a file?
[18:21] <pandemonium> hi people
[18:42] <HalphaZ> hello
[18:42] <HalphaZ> how can I share a folder on kubuntu?
[18:44] <myself> is there a deb package anywhere for ktorrent 3.2.2 that came out on the 1st?
[18:44] <Zorael> ign0ramus: If you're still wondering, you only need to pipe the write-combining line to mtrr, not edit it
[18:45] <Zorael> well, pipe and pipe, output with >
[18:45] <Zorael> e.g "echo base=0xc0000000 size=0x10000000 type=write-combining > /proc/mtrr"
[18:45] <ign0ramus> Zorael, i did "echo "base=0xe0000000 size=0x10000000 type=write-combining" > /proc/mtrr"
[18:46] <Zorael> ign0ramus: worked?
[18:46] <ign0ramus> Zorael, so, yeah, pretty much the same thing :)
[18:46] <ign0ramus> Zorael, yup
[18:46] <ign0ramus> Zorael, i still got an error message, but the entry has been successfully added.  not sure why, but it works
[18:47] <dthacker> myself: you can search for packages at http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[18:48] <Zorael> ign0ramus: Does the base and size match your lspci output?
[18:49] <ign0ramus> Zorael, i believe so... i did this when i first installed jaunty, and then removed it for some reason.  I remember i had to do some calculations
[18:49] <ign0ramus> Zorael, what would i be grepping for to double check?
[18:49] <TMKCodes_> Hey, how i can make the clock of kubuntu show 24h clock and not 12h?
[18:50] <Zorael> ign0ramus: lspci | grep VGA, note slot address (like 00:02:0)
[18:50] <Zorael> ign0ramus: then sudo lspci -vs <address>
[18:51] <ign0ramus> Zorael, http://pastebin.com/m10896476
[18:52] <ign0ramus> TMKCodes_, try Regional and Language in System Settings.  Should be an option for time format
[18:52] <Zorael> ign0ramus: so "echo base=0xd0000000 size=0x10000000 type=write-combining > /proc/mtrr"
[18:53] <ign0ramus> Zorael, now i get "permission denied" with or without sudo...
[18:53] <TMKCodes_> ign0ramus: no there is not.
[18:53] <Zorael> ign0ramus: well, sudo doesn't really work with echo, you need to do it as su
[18:54] <Zorael> ign0ramus: or with tee
[18:54] <ign0ramus> Zorael, sudo -i ?
[18:54] <Zorael> ign0ramus: echo base=0xd0000000 size=0x10000000 type=write-combining | sudo tee /proc/mtrr
[18:54] <TMKCodes_> ign0ramus: sorry there is
[18:54] <ign0ramus> TMKCodes_, glad you found it :)
[18:54] <ign0ramus> Zorael, that worked.  now how to take out the erroneous line?
[18:55] <Zorael> ign0ramus: Not sure. Reboot. :3
[18:55] <ign0ramus> Zorael, haha.  brb.
[18:58] <ign0ramus> Zorael, i think we're in business now! http://pastebin.com/m26920033
[18:59] <ign0ramus> Zorael, so i no longer need this script?  http://pastebin.com/m368661d9
[19:03] <draik> ign0ramus: Hey there. What's the new issue?
[19:03] <ign0ramus> draik, not necessarily new... just jaunty's regressions with intel graphics.  'fixing' mtrr helps in this aspect.
[19:05] <ign0ramus> draik, but i've echo'd a new line (courteousy of Zorael) into /proc/mtrr, but i'm wondering if the setting will stick
[19:05] <ign0ramus> draik, i've been using a persistent (/etc/init.d) script to make this a 'permanent' change, but i'm wondering if i still need it now
[19:06] <draik> You may, but I honestly wouldn't know.
[19:07] <ign0ramus> draik, well since the script provides the same line we've manually added, there's no conflict, and thus i guess no reason to get rid of the script.  although i may gain 0.003 seconds on boot time by removing it ;)
[19:08] <ign0ramus> draik, speaking of scripts... i have one for you
[19:08] <draik> DCC it on over, ign0ramus
[19:09] <draik> Got it. Just a sec
[19:09] <draik> I just cat the script. Nicely done, ign0ramus
[19:10] <ign0ramus> draik, its just a heavily modified script i'd found somewhere and basically just used the correct mencoder settings for my purposes
[19:10] <ign0ramus> draik, but thanks
[19:11] <draik> You're welcome, ign0ramus
[19:11] <draik> I'm getting into MySQL now. Not that I'm done with bash scripting, but I don't have much else to script at this time.
[19:11] <ign0ramus> draik, so my question is this: i need .avi for it to play on the Zen.  If input is 'file.mk4', output will be 'file.mk4.avi'.  it will still work, but can i strip the original extension?
[19:11] <draik> Yes, you should be able to specify. Let me get KATE on this
[19:14] <draik> I'm looking at the last line. You have it set to $OUTPUT.avi, that's always going to be file.ext.avi. Why not use $FILENAME.avi ?
[19:15] <draik> Never mind. That will produce the same thing.
[19:15] <ign0ramus> draik, i'm pretty sure i tried that too :(
[19:15] <TMKCodes> yeah, because file name cant have .
[19:16] <draik> All I can suggest then would be to append a line for 'mv'
[19:16] <ign0ramus> draik, as you know, i'm still new to bash/shell scripts (i actually started really learning working on your a few weeks ago), and this is the one thing i can't get just yet
[19:16] <ign0ramus> draik, using what parameters?
[19:17] <draik> mv $OUTPUT.avi $UserInput.avi
[19:18] <draik> You have to cut out the extension from $OUTPUT (I think 'cut' can do it) and then use it as a diff variable for the rename.
[19:18] <ign0ramus> draik, that makes perfect sense - i just have to do some more reading then ;)
[19:18] <draik> Let me do some quick research and I'll get back to you about it.
[19:19] <ign0ramus> draik, cool
[19:20] <ign0ramus> draik, would a modified version of this work? http://pastebin.com/m2d316319
[19:21] <draik> Yes.
[19:21] <draik> You may even append that for now
[19:23] <ign0ramus> draik, nice. i just have to go through and make the variables relevant to my script.
[19:25] <ign0ramus> draik, using that script though, wouldn't it only accept one extension type as an input? I'm ok with a single extension output (.avi), but I'm not sure this would cover .mpeg, .mk4, etc...
[19:25] <draik> Let me double-check
[19:26] <ign0ramus> draik, in other words, it seems you have to specify a single extension for input, whereas my script must be adaptable for many types of video files
[19:27] <draik> Right
[19:28] <ign0ramus> draik, that's good for like batch renaming i guess, but not very adaptable for what i'm looking for.  'cut' is probably what i need.
[19:28] <liz2> ok so I reinstalled kubuntu hardy and now on the first boot up on sign in the screen is distorted (have to turn it off then back on for it to work properly), any ideas??
[19:29] <liz2> also it doesn't show a splash screen anymore
[19:29] <ign0ramus> liz2, did you check xorg or kdm logs?
[19:29] <liz2> no, how does one do that?
[19:30] <ign0ramus> liz2, 'kate /var/log/kdm.log'
[19:30] <draik> ign0ramus: No, cut is for within files, not filenames. Looking at something else
[19:30] <ign0ramus> draik, gotcha
[19:30] <liz2> I'll check right now
[19:30] <draik> ign0ramus: I'm looking into 'sed' right now
[19:30] <ign0ramus> draik, O_o
[19:31] <ign0ramus> draik, better you than me.
[19:31] <draik> ign0ramus: :
[19:31] <draik> :)
[19:31] <liz2> ign0ramus: what do I look for?
[19:32] <ign0ramus> liz2, any errors related to display or graphics
[19:33] <liz2> (EE) [drm] Could not set DRM device bus ID.
[19:33] <liz2> (EE) intel(0): [dri] DRIScreenInit failed. Disabling DRI.
[19:33] <liz2> that's the only error I can see
[19:34] <ign0ramus> liz2, is kdm the only thing that is distorted?
[19:35] <liz2> (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown
[19:35] <liz2> missed that one
[19:36] <liz2> the sign in screen is the only thing, can't sign in w/o turning off/on the monitor again
[19:37] <ign0ramus> liz2, you just turn off the monitor? not the computer?
[19:37] <liz2> ign0ramus: just the monitor, then everything works fine, like right now
[19:38] <ign0ramus> liz2, very strange.  let me see if there's anything i can find.  is it an lcd monitor?
[19:38] <liz2> yes
[19:38] <ign0ramus> liz2, ok.
[19:42] <ign0ramus> liz2, i don't see anything about this... i would imagine that the correct settings are applied at boot, since you haven't changed them and everything is working fine.  I honestly have no clue what turning the monitor off/on would change.
[19:43] <ign0ramus> liz2, and you said splash is no longer there... do you mean the usplash screen?
[19:44] <liz2> ign0ramus: yes, splash is no longer working, I don't even see the settings for it in System Settings
[19:44] <ign0ramus> !splash | liz2
[19:44] <bewofthe> crap is considered bad language? i am then sorry
[19:44] <ign0ramus> well, that wasn't helpful :|
[19:44] <liz2> lol
[19:45] <liz2> I always have weird issues w/my pc
[19:45] <ign0ramus> liz2, kde 3 or 4?
[19:45] <liz2> kde3.5.9
[19:46] <ign0ramus> liz2, and not listed in kcontrol either?
[19:46] <liz2> hmm... forgot to go there
[19:46] <ign0ramus> liz2, not too hopeful, but maybe...
[19:46]  * ign0ramus misses 3.5.x
[19:47] <liz2> :-P I'll check now
[19:47] <slow-motion> hi
[19:47] <ign0ramus> !hi
[19:50] <liz2> ign0ramus: expectadly, not in kcontrol either lol
[19:51] <ign0ramus> liz2, do you have 'ksplash' installed?
[19:53] <ign0ramus> liz2, and possibly 'ksplash-engine-moodin'
[19:53] <liz2> ign0ramus: don't know, would have thought those were default installs
[19:53] <ign0ramus> liz2, me too, but somethings obviously missing :P
[19:54] <ign0ramus> brb
[20:02] <hunter> sdaf
[20:03] <Guest83612> why i can not install anything anymore from my desktop, always a failor. could not find
[20:03] <Guest83612> someone an idea?
[20:07] <uga> Guest83612: do you have a proxy for networking?
[20:07] <Mamarok> Guest83612: what do you mean, you can not install?
[20:08] <Guest83612> no, an router..
[20:08] <liz2> Guest83612: I know that through console you have to cd to where you have the application you wish to install, other than that don't know
[20:08] <Guest83612> well, i have a tar pacage on desktop and try to install it, but its not working
[20:09] <uga> Guest83612: a tar file isn't an installable file in general. Is it a build file?
[20:09] <uga> ie, configure; make; make install
[20:09] <uga> or just something like install click and goes installing
[20:10] <liz2> Guest83612: and configure, make, make install is done through a terminal (konsole)
[20:10] <uga> liz2: please notice that the desktop in kde4 is no more a desktop...
[20:10] <uga> so we should first discover what exactly he's trying to do
[20:10] <uga> s/no more a desktop/no more a folder
[20:11] <liz2> uga: oh ok, don't know anything of kde4 lol
[20:11] <Guest83612> yes
[20:12] <uga> Guest83612: the desktop in the newer kubuntu versions isn't a normal folder. You should better put that file somewhere like home, and check there
[20:12] <uga> Guest83612: also, building apps from source isn't the best thing I'd suggest, unless you know your system very well. May we know what app you're trying to install?
[20:12] <|MaSa69|> kde4 haves desktop if u make it use folder view, and *.tar file is packed, u have to unpack it fisrt...
[20:13] <Guest83612> ipcop-1.4.21-sources.tgz
[20:14] <korneliorogelio> hi all... i have a problem with widgets i cant arrange them as i want, when i move them they automaticaly order like they want! is it a bug or im doing something wrong?
[20:15] <uga> Guest83612: afaik ipcop is a whole linux distribution
[20:16] <ign0ramus> uga, that package is just the firewall, but makes you wonder whats wrong with all the other gui firewalls out there...
[20:16] <uga> ahk
[20:16] <ign0ramus> uga, *i think*
[20:16] <ign0ramus> Guest83612, are you just looking for a gui for firewall?
[20:17] <Guest83612> aha, exact
[20:17] <uga> Guest83612: you should copy it to your home directory in dolphin. Then open konsole, and type "tar -zxvf    ipcop-1.4.21-sources.tg"
[20:17] <uga> argh!
[20:17] <uga> tar -zxvf ipcop-1.4.21-sources.tgz
[20:17] <Guest83612> ok. let me tr
[20:17] <Guest83612> try
[20:17] <uga> ign0ramus: guarddog?
[20:18] <ign0ramus> uga, exactly what i was thinking.  good app, and mature.
[20:18] <uga> ign0ramus: I had trouble in the past (it wasn't obbeying to non-basic settings), but should work fine now
[20:18] <ign0ramus> uga, bad guarddog!
[20:19] <Mamarok> Guest83612: did you search the repositories first for that package?
[20:19] <ign0ramus> Mamarok, ipcop isn't in the repos... but tons of other good gui's are...
[20:19] <Mamarok> uga: always suggest packages from the repos first, please
[20:19] <Mamarok> have to restart my screen session, running wild, brb
[20:20] <uga> Mamarok: I didn't suggest the pack. Alaways check the backlog, please =)
[20:20] <uga> he wanted to install _that_ pack
[20:20] <liz2> ign0ramus: I'd like to thank you, didn't have the ksplash installed, hopefully that solves the issue :)
[20:21] <ign0ramus> liz2, don't thank me until it works :D ... also, you may need the moodin package i mentioned before
[20:21] <Guest83612> i cant. mo rights
[20:21] <Mamarok> uga: I know, but if soembody comes with a request for hepl with outside packages, try finding an equivalent in the repos first, we do not usually support packages that are not in the official repos
[20:21] <liz2> ign0ramus: ok... and I installed both you mentioned :)
[20:22] <ign0ramus> liz2, good luck! :)
[20:22] <uga> uhm. pedantic support ;)
[20:24] <uga> Mamarok: so we cannot support on OOo 3.1, nor mp3 playing, and how to install commercial apps that support ubuntu?
[20:24] <uga> because neither is in the official repos
[20:25] <Mamarok> uga: official = main universe multiverse restricted :)
[20:25] <uga> Mamarok: medibuntu too?
[20:25] <Mamarok> uga: in doubt, check the factoids of the bot
[20:26] <Mamarok> !factoids | uga
[20:27] <uga> Mamarok: thanks, I know how to use the bot, more or less
[20:27] <Ralf_J> lol, that's a funny IRC info system :D
[20:31] <uga> Mamarok: imvho, kubuntu needs a modded kopete
[20:31] <uga> one that logs into correct language channels
[20:31] <uga> one with buttons that offer help
[20:32] <uga> and instructs them on asking questions (in a proffessional fashioned gui... you know... describe your problem:)
[20:32] <uga> irc won't do
[20:33] <uga> they won't know /join, and they won't know that there's extra channels for each language, and they won't know using the bots, etc etc
[20:33] <uga> well, more importantly, I see too many nicks here named "kubuntu"
[20:33] <Mamarok> uga: kopete is not an irc client, Quassel is default in Jaunty and opens this channel here
[20:34] <Mamarok> also, there is pretty much always somebody around who can and do help, but having the bot in mind is recommended :)
[20:34] <InforMed> Konversation alpha 3 is better then Quassel!
[20:35] <ign0ramus> InforMed, hear hear!
[20:35] <ign0ramus> Mamarok, does amarok 2 have last.fm fingerprinting yet?
[20:36] <uga> Mamarok: kopete can do as irc client, but read again... I said jabber
[20:36] <Mamarok> ign0ramus: not yet, you should ask in #amarok, check with lfranchi
[20:36] <draik_> ign0ramus: Internet took a dump on my desktop, like usual, so I'm sitting out the search for now. I think you're ok with the script you posted for changing the extension.
[20:36] <uga> Mamarok: I'm not complaining about irc clients, I'm complaining about irc not being the best support line
[20:36] <abcuser> need help. using live cd to recover grup after it has been lost when i installed windows xp. grub> find /boot/grub/stage1
[20:36] <abcuser> Error 15: File not found
[20:36] <Mamarok> uga: and jabber is easier to set up than an irc client with a preconfigured default channel?
[20:36] <uga> Mamarok: yups
[20:36] <ign0ramus> draik_, thanks draik.  i have to go soon anyway... already 3:30 here and i haven't done anything today ;)
[20:37] <draik_> Same here
[20:37] <uga> Mamarok: easier than setting up msn I'd say, and all users do that
[20:37] <Mamarok> !mbr | abcuser
[20:37] <abcuser> Mamarok:  iam using that link. having an error
[20:37] <ign0ramus> abcuser, do: "find /grub/stage1"
[20:38] <Mamarok> uga: well, the default IRC clients all have preconfigured channels, then we filter for languages if needed
[20:38] <uga> join #kubuntu-es
[20:38] <uga> ah, no funciona
[20:38] <uga> cómo va esto?
[20:38] <FloodBotK1> uga: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:38] <uga> sigh, quién es FloodBot
[20:38] <Mamarok> !as | uga
[20:38] <uga> Mamarok: a sample
[20:38] <Mamarok> !es | uga
[20:38] <Mamarok> sry
[20:38] <uga> Mamarok: 20 lines and a bot wasted =)
[20:39] <uga> irc is unfriendly
[20:39] <jan_> hi@all
[20:39] <abcuser> ign0ramus:  grub> find /grub/stage1
[20:39] <abcuser> Error 15: File not found
[20:39] <Mamarok> uga: but if you would like to offer that to be included in future releases, go on Launchpad blueprint and send it to the devs
[20:39] <ign0ramus> hi@jan_
[20:39] <uga> Mamarok: what's that "punctuation" complaint?
[20:39] <jan_> i have a problem; i have a playlist in *.lst format
[20:40] <uga> Mamarok: maybe this summer that I'll be bored, I'll do some coding ;)
[20:40] <jan_> i need to convert is to m3u or something
[20:40] <Mamarok> uga: what do you mean?
[20:40] <jan_> the playlist have this format:
[20:40] <jan_> path|some extra infos|extra infos|blablalbla|balbal|
[20:40] <uga> Mamarok: ah, I misread the bot "don't use Enter as punctuation"
[20:40] <jan_> so only the path is relevant
[20:40] <jan_> how can i regex this?
[20:40] <jan_> or how can i extract tha path
[20:40] <jan_> of that playlist?
[20:41] <Mamarok> janm second, let me catch up
[20:41] <Mamarok> jan_: a *.m3u playlist is just a text file with URLs :)
[20:42] <jan_> yes. i know
[20:42] <jan_> thats the nice thing
[20:42] <abcuser> grub> find /grub/stage1
[20:42] <abcuser> Error 15: File not found
[20:42] <jan_> so i need to extract the path from the *.lst to create a m3u list
[20:42] <Mamarok> so if your *.lst has realtive path, just remove the rest
[20:42] <jan_> the nice thing is, there is a delimiter
[20:42] <jan_> yes
[20:42] <jan_> but its a long list
[20:42] <jan_> i need to do it automatically
[20:42] <jan_> with what? :)
[20:43] <FloodBotK1> jan_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:43] <Mamarok> jan_: well, I'm not the person to ask for a script, sorry
[20:43] <jan_> :) yes, sure no problem
[20:43] <Mamarok> jan_: the bot means: that would have found space on one line :)
[20:44] <Mamarok> uga: irc is the default media in *ubuntu, nobody uses jabber
[20:44] <Mamarok> uga: else, there are the forums and the help pages
[20:44] <uga> Mamarok: irc is the default media for developers and experienced users
[20:45] <uga> who knows how many users are out there that don't know about this support line
[20:45] <Mamarok> uga: *sigh* don't be stubborn, please
[20:45] <uga> not trying to. You know how long it took me first time joining irc?
[20:45] <ign0ramus> abcuser, if you exit the grub prompt, and do "cd /boot/grub" and then "ls -o", do you see a Stage1?
[20:45] <uga> and I'm not supposed to be a computer-agnostic person
[20:45] <Mamarok> uga: I tell you what is default, so don't argue and respect the channel rules I told you
[20:46] <Mamarok> uga: everthing else goes to dev mailinglists and Launchpad blueprints, not here, period.
[20:46] <uga> Mamarok: ah? what channel rules am I breaking, and I'm not arguing. I said I could do some code and help
[20:46] <uga> Mamarok: and sorry, I don't know what those blueprints are
[20:46] <uga> semicolon ;)
[20:46] <Mamarok> uga: ok, then just let's stop that discussion, as it doesn't belong here anyway...
[20:47] <Mamarok> !blueprints > uga
[20:48] <uga> cheers
[20:50] <ssrat> hello
[20:57] <vbgunz> man I just found something that stole my mouse from kubuntu --> http://2006.1-click.jp/ ... dont go there unless you prepared to possibly kill nspluginviewer and possibly restart kwin
[20:58] <vbgunz> I visited in konqueror 4.2.2
[21:02] <uga> vbgunz: what are the steps to follow?
[21:03] <uga> vbgunz: works fine here (kde 4.3 svn though)
[21:03] <uga> cool flash =)
[21:03] <uga> using flash player 10
[21:04] <Mamarok> vbgunz: not the right place to post that in a support channel...
[21:04] <vbgunz> all I did was click on the link through reddit -> http://www.reddit.com/r/funny/comments/8rxy6/japanese_are_fucking_awesome/ ... using konqueror 4.2.2 and my mouse pointer suddenly just disappeared... I had no mouse pointer at all
[21:04] <Mamarok> vbgunz: please, don't...
[21:04] <vbgunz> I then killed nspluginviewer and that gave me my mouse pointer back *but* then kwin became unresponsive
[21:05] <vbgunz> Mamarok: I have no idea what the link is for except that it killed my my mouse pointer using konqueror 4.2.2
[21:05] <vbgunz> Mamarok: the link is offensive?
[21:06] <Mamarok> vbgunz: well, it doesn't belong in a support channel, that's all, so don't post stuff that cn break things for others here
[21:06] <Mamarok> can*
[21:07] <vbgunz> hmm,  I clicked it again. it seemed to work this time. the first must have been a fluke. by the way my first post says dont click unless you prepared to kill nspluginviewer and restart kwin
[21:07] <uga> Mamarok: he asked for help on that bug. if somebody can reproduce, maybe he can have that bug properly documented (may affect several gfx cards)
[21:07] <uga> and he warned that it could cause crashes
[21:07] <uga> I think that's okay
[21:07] <Mamarok> *sigh*
[21:08]  * uga hands Mamarok choc cookies
[21:08] <uga> unfortunately I cannot reproduce on my system
[21:08] <vbgunz> I'll try again
[21:08] <Mamarok> uga: there is a policy not to post stuff than can break things for others unless you are requested to do so for support...
[21:09] <uga> Mamarok: and all users are pointed to those policies when they join this channel? because I don't know them
[21:11] <vbgunz> man I cannot do it again
[21:12] <vbgunz> my mouse in 4 years never jsut disappeared like that. I really thought right away the site had somehow got a hold of my mouse and hid it
[21:21] <joshhhhhh> hi
[21:38] <shaun> hello ppl
[21:47] <compilerwriter> Color me officially confused.
[21:48] <compilerwriter> I tried to do a backup and then a clean install of Jaunty.  Now somehow my machine is working again in a manner of speaking.  Now I don't even know for sure which version of Kubuntu I am running.
[21:50] <Walzmyn> !myth
[21:50] <Walzmyn> !mythbuntu
[21:58] <compilerwriter> well /etc/issue says I am using 9.04  so I must have somehow half-ass upgraded.  I don't quite get it.
[21:58] <xnox> It's very hard for me to decide what applications to use, so I tend to stick to default. With recent rumblings about Mono I got very confused and started to look for alternatives. So I have switched to kubuntu.
[21:59] <xnox> Thank you all very much for INCREDIBLE distribution. Which has eye-candy without compiz headackes and a lot of amazing apps
[22:00]  * xnox is a happy kubuntu users. So long gnome. I might give you a spin by the time gnome 3.6 is ready. Gnome3 have fun katching up with kde4
[22:06] <Zorael> How do I send a dbus command to plasma-desktop to shut itself down or restart?
[22:38] <DsBoy> what is the diverent with kubuntu and ubuntu?
[22:40] <Walex> DsBoy: by default Kubuntu installs KDE instead of GNOME.
[22:40] <DsBoy> ?
[22:40] <DsBoy> tht meann
[22:40] <DsBoy>   
[22:41] <bazhang> !kde > DsBoy
[22:41] <bazhang> !gnome > DsBoy
[22:42] <DsBoy> ty
[22:42] <DsBoy> !gnome > dsboy
[22:42] <DsBoy> :P
[22:55] <zorael_> Has anyone managed to install the I Hate The Cashew widget (http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/I+HATE+the+Cashew?content=91009)?
[22:57] <brk> hello world
[23:12] <Philip5> zorael_: i use that plasma widget to remove the cashew
[23:12] <Philip5> zorael_: i use that plasma widget to remove the cashew
[23:13] <zorael_> Philip5: How did you install it? I compiled it and did make install, but it doesn't show up in the list
[23:13] <Philip5> zorael_: i even have a deb package of it for jaunty
[23:14] <zorael_> Philip5: You do? Where'd you find that?
[23:14] <Philip5> zorael_: i made it... you can find it in my repo under jaunty at this site: http://philip.magicalforest.se
[23:15] <Philip5> zorael_: if you grabb the source there you can even see the parameters used
[23:15] <Philip5> or just grab the package if you like
[23:15] <zorael_> Philip5: Awesome, thanks
[23:16] <Philip5> zorael_: np
[23:21] <Philip5> zorael_: let me know if there are any problems but there shouldn't be any
[23:22] <zorael_> Philip5: file conflict, upgrade failed
[23:23] <zorael_> Philip5: libqtscriptbindings1 from some ppa I use, it seems
[23:23] <nikitis> Hey guys, when i log in as my main user, my keyboard quits working after password entry.  But it works on other users,  Anyone know why this would happen?
[23:24] <nikitis> Like it's dead, and I brought up the virtual keyboard, and tried to type on that, and keys wouldn't stroke
[23:24] <Philip5> zorael_: are you using the amarok repo with libqtscriptbindings1? i have latest amarok on my repo too but use the debian naming och qtscript instead of that one in the amarok repo
[23:25] <zorael_> Philip5: I think it's from one of the kubuntu ppas, yeah. Any easy way to tell which? apt-cache policy just says "ppa.launchpad.net".
[23:26] <cwiedel> can someone help me edit my fstab so my nfs share mounts on boot?
[23:26] <Philip5> zorael_: i don't know why it have that naming in the ppa and not follow debians naming
[23:28] <zorael_> mmkay.
[23:30] <cwiedel> http://pastebin.com/m413a4102
[23:30] <cwiedel> thats my fstab file. What am I doing wrong?
[23:36] <Kira_Light> ktorrent --silent %i -caption "%c" %u is still displaying the torrent file list instead of starting the torrent automatically. Any ideas?
[23:39] <brk> need a choice of apps to connect to my mobile with bluetooth
[23:50] <doleyb> brk: Did you try the regular kbluetooth?
[23:51] <brk> nope, needed some names.. thanks for the start.
[23:52] <brk> dell delivers ubuntu on my mini 9, but ask9ing for bluetooth does not inclue any apps preloaded.
[23:52] <brk> never had to deal with buetooth before.  thanks