[00:22] <fta> hm, something's wrong.  many packages are waiting for publications for hours: https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-daily/+archive/ppa
[00:24]  * wgrant hopes mthaddon is still around.
[00:24] <mthaddon> wgrant: ?
[00:24] <wgrant> mthaddon: germanium's publisher is borked.
[00:24] <mthaddon> lemme take a look
[00:27] <mthaddon> wgrant: the most obvious thing I can find is this: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/27844776/KhZe2ggKNzKhRabuIrKhzeLghK.txt - but I confess I don't know too much about the inner workings of this part of LP
[00:27] <wgrant> Good lord.
[00:27] <wgrant> That doesn't look good.
[00:27] <mthaddon> shows up 4 times in the ppa cron logs
[00:28] <wgrant> Actually, it looks like it's only fta's PPA.
[00:28] <mthaddon> although it seems to come up just after: Processing http://ppa.launchpad.net/sabily.team/ppa/ubuntu - whether that means it's having a problem with that one or the next one I'm not sure
[00:28] <lifeless> ubunets ppa was having trouble last night
[00:28] <lifeless> worth checking that too
[00:29] <fta> wgrant, nope, i saw another one: https://edge.launchpad.net/~ripps818/+archive/staging
[00:29] <mthaddon> lifeless: this is the only real error I can see in the current ppa cron log
[00:29] <wgrant> fta: OK - I admit I only check a few recent ones.
[00:29] <wgrant> mthaddon: Is it always that same file?
[00:29] <mthaddon> yeah
[00:29] <wgrant> It'd be nice to unbreak things for the weekend.
[00:30] <wgrant> And the easiest way to do that without waking people up is probably to just get somebody to delete the publishing in question...
[00:31] <fta> wgrant, mine has some too.. months old: https://edge.launchpad.net/~fta/+archive/ppa/   kind of weird..
[00:32] <wgrant> fta: That's a bug with superseded binaries. Not the same thing./
[00:32] <fta> yep, figured that out, that's why i never complained before ;)
[00:36] <wgrant> fta: Bug #378876
[00:37] <fta> thx
[00:39] <mthaddon> wgrant: so who should be doing the deleting? the publisher or an admin?
[00:40] <wgrant> mthaddon: An admin.
[00:40] <wgrant> Or the user.
[00:42] <wgrant> mthaddon: I suspect that just deleting the package from +delete-packages of the archive in question should do it.
[00:50] <Ursinha> :)
[00:51] <Ursinha> oops, damn focus
[02:05] <VK7HSE> O I have possibly had my head in the sand! but the download counter is a handy addition.. Thanks :)
[02:19] <Flannel> Hi all, I was wondering if it's possible to change my team's name simply through the "Team name" thing under change details.  I know that's what it's there for, but was hoping to verify it working beforehand.
[02:20] <ripps> Apparently, there have been a set of packages in one of my ppa's that has been pending publication for over 10 hours, what's the problem?
[02:20] <ripps> I need these packages published because another set of packages in the ppa rely on them as a dependency
[04:22] <ripps> Any launchpad sysadmins?
[04:23] <ripps> I've got packages in a PPA that are locked in pending
[04:29] <Sarvatt> same here - https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ppa
[04:31] <Sarvatt> interestingly the mesa was copied not even a minute after showing up on the other ppa but its published there, must have just been bad timing or its copied packages not going through
[04:31] <wgrant> Some things seem to be getting published, but others are not.
[04:42] <wgrant> lifeless: Do you know if anything further was done about the PPA issues?
[04:43] <lifeless> yes :- nothing
[04:43] <wgrant> Ah.
[04:43] <lifeless> mthaddon couldn't see a bug describing what was going on enough to go and delete things arbitrarily
[04:44] <wgrant> I guess Europe will wakt up in a few hours.
[04:44] <wgrant> Of course.
[04:44] <lifeless> spm: may have no llife
[05:13] <lifeless> jml: how do I push up a new package ?
[05:14] <lifeless> :!bzr push bzr+ssh://bazaar.launchpad.net/~libcpuinfo-developers/ubuntu/karmic/libcpuinfo/trunk
[05:14] <lifeless> bzr: ERROR: Permission denied: "/~libcpuinfo-developers/ubuntu/karmic/libcpuinfo/trunk": : No such source package: 'libcpuinfo'.
[05:14] <wgrant> lifeless: You'll be able to do it once you upload it to a PPA.
[05:14] <wgrant> There's just no SPN created yet.
[05:15] <lifeless> wgrant: yes, I know.
[05:15] <wgrant> Ah.
[05:19] <lifeless> wgrant: its an inconsistent restriction
[05:19] <lifeless> wgrant: any ppa upload can break it; so why can't a bzr push
[05:20] <wgrant> lifeless: That PPA uploads can break it has been considered a bug, though.
[05:20] <lifeless> wgrant: that would be wrong though ;).
[05:20] <wgrant> But I guess it could be useful, so maybe a push should create it.
[05:21] <wgrant> But I'm not sure this source package branch model represents how things are going to work in the real world.
[05:22] <lifeless> wgrant: All the more reason to test it
[06:08] <stefanlsd> Am i doing something wrong here (against staging) - createbug = launchpad.bugs.createBug(description='bugdesc', title='test bug title', target='apr-util)  - i get  HTTP Error 400: Bad Request
[06:10] <lifeless> try ubuntu/+source/apr-util
[06:11] <stefanlsd> lifeless: same error...
[06:11] <lifeless> stefanlsd: oh well, worth a crach
[06:11] <lifeless> *crack
[06:11] <stefanlsd> lifeless: thanks though :)
[06:15] <wgrant> stefanlsd: target can't just be a string.
[06:15] <wgrant> stefanlsd: Either get hold of a SP object, or pass 'https://api.staging.launchpad.net/beta/ubuntu/+source/apr-util
[06:16] <stefanlsd> wgrant: kk. thanks. what is an SP object?
[06:17] <wgrant> stefanlsd: A source package. Get one using IDistribution.getSourcePackage()
[06:19] <stefanlsd> wgrant: kk. thanks
[06:23] <wgrant> stefanlsd: In future, you can get more details about most errors by catching the exception and checking the 'content' attribute.
[06:33] <stefanlsd> wgrant: do you know of an example of doing that i could see?
[06:36] <wgrant> stefanlsd: Of what?
[06:37] <stefanlsd> wgrant: catching the exception and checking the 'content' attribute...
[06:37] <lifeless> try: (foo) except Exception,e:print e.content
[06:38] <wgrant> That's a bit broad, but would work.
[06:38] <lifeless> its an example ;P
[06:38] <lifeless> its terribly broad, but then so is 'bad request'
[06:39] <wgrant> True.
[06:39] <stefanlsd> ok. thanks. will try it
[07:10] <jml> lifeless: thanks for filing that bug.
[07:10] <jml> it's a known one, but maybe I hadn't filed it already
[07:10] <lifeless> jml: no worries. If its a dup its a dup.
[07:10] <lifeless> I filed uhm 5 lp bugs today I think.
[07:10] <jml> lifeless: we're thinking maybe of using --create-prefix as a way of handling that case.
[07:10] <lifeless> maybe 6.
[07:11] <lifeless> jml: I'm interested in why you think special flags are needed, but am going out to a movie now.
[07:11] <jml> lifeless: cos we also don't want people accidentally making packages called subinut
[07:11] <lifeless> jml: Allow deletions too.
[07:11]  * lifeless is gone
[07:11] <jml> lifeless: ciao
[07:13] <wgrant> jml: I like the --create-prefix idea.
[07:14] <jml> I think it makes sense, and is consistent with bzr's behaviour on non-magic servers.
[07:36] <e-jat> just a question .... can 2 launchpad ID  get merge ?
[07:36] <e-jat> e.g : ~idA  merge with ~idB = ~idA
[07:37] <wgrant> e-jat: https://launchpad.net/people/+requestmerge
[07:37] <e-jat> wgrant: ok thanks ..
[07:55] <e-jat> wgrant: how about merging a team ..
[07:55] <e-jat> is it possible too ?
[07:56] <wgrant> e-jat: I believe so, but you have to ask an admin to do it - https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+addquestion
[08:22] <e-jat> thanks ..
[08:52] <Flannel> Hi all, I was wondering if it's possible to change my team's name simply through the "Team Name" thing under change details (/~team/+edit).  I know that's what it's there for, but was hoping to verify it working beforehand.
[08:56] <wgrant> Flannel: That's what it's for.
[08:57] <wgrant> And it works.
[08:57] <wgrant> There are complications if you have a PPA or mailing list, but I think it'll refuse to do anything in those cases.
[08:57] <Flannel> wgrant: Any side effects or other things I need to worry about it?
[08:58] <wgrant> Flannel: Other than the complications I meantione above and URLs changing, no.
[08:58] <Flannel> Alright, thanks.
[10:02] <lifeless> jml: so, I think it would be better to just allow the push
[10:02] <lifeless> jml: given that we allow branch deletion elsewhere in launchpad
[11:54] <wgrant> cprov: Morning - can you unbreak germanium's publisher?
[11:54] <cprov> wgrant: I'm on it already
[11:55] <wgrant> cprov: Great.
[11:55] <cprov> something related to this bizarre piece of work -> https://edge.launchpad.net/~ppa-pkg/+archive/ppa
[11:55] <wgrant> Is it the missing LFA that was found this morning, or something else?
[11:55] <wgrant> Oh, wow.
[11:56] <wgrant> That's an impressively dangerous thing.
[11:57] <cprov> wgrant: yes, a copy with an expired LFA blocked the job
[11:57] <wgrant> cprov: An LFA from an obsolete SPR?
[11:58] <cprov> wgrant: and expired BPR, actually, but yes, our *own* mess, not users'
[11:58] <wgrant> Right.
[11:58] <wgrant> That makes sense.
[11:59] <wgrant> I initially suspected an expiry issue, but I thought copies of those were blocked.
[11:59] <cprov> wgrant: not yet :-/
[12:00] <wgrant> cprov: Ah, damn.
[12:00] <lifeless> da ?!?! is that
[12:00] <cprov> let me just ensure the publisher is unleashed and I will file a bug.
[12:00] <lifeless> 3K packages?
[12:00] <wgrant> lifeless: Yeah, it *does* makes sense. In a dangerous sort of way.
[12:00] <lifeless> cprov: what is it
[12:00] <lifeless> ?
[12:00] <wgrant> lifeless: Packages to install every PPA on Launchpad.
[12:01] <lifeless> *blink* scary
[12:01] <cprov> wgrant: well, it doesn't, it could avoid all the packaging cruft and have a single package for managing PPA installation
[12:01] <wgrant> cprov: I guess so.
[12:01] <wgrant> This wasn't discussed with you before it was created?
[12:01] <cprov> wgrant: even it he updates the local PPA inventory daily or something.
[12:02] <cprov> wgrant: no it wasn't
[12:02] <wgrant> Bug #316431
[12:02] <cprov> wgrant: I saw him posting the solution here and there
[12:02] <cprov> wgrant: you are my hero! thanks.
[12:02] <maxb> I 'like' the way that all of those exceptionally trivial packages use cdbs to build :-/
[12:02] <wgrant> I knew I'd seen that bug somewhere.
[12:04] <wgrant> cprov: How'd you unbreak it? Just unpublished the [SB]PPHs?
[12:04] <cprov> wgrant: unpublished the faulty binaries.
[12:06] <wgrant> cprov: Thanks.
[12:07] <cprov> jeez, those chromium debug binaries are big! 670 MiB of pain.
[12:07] <wgrant> Yep. I wonder if it includes symbols for all of the embedded libs too.
[12:08] <wgrant> Since Chrome has embedded copies of pretty much everything that it uses.
[12:08] <cprov> wgrant: yeah, a shiny monolith.
[12:08] <wgrant> Heh.
[12:20] <lifeless> \o/
[12:24] <wgrant> Ah, now I'm less confused. I forgot that SPRs don't expire.
[12:32] <fta> 17 hours without retry? https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-daily/+archive/ppa/+build/1074410
[12:32] <fta> https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-daily/+archive/ppa
[12:32] <wgrant> Hopefully it's just that bug that cprov fixed a couple of days ago.
[12:34] <cprov> fta: binaries were not published (due to the publisher problem) builds could not be retried.
[12:34] <fta> cprov, wasn't that fixed yesterday?
[12:35] <fta> i mean, ~12h ago
[12:35] <cprov> fta: `retry-depwait` will run again in 20 min and will hopefully succeed
[12:35] <wgrant> fta: 50 minutes ago.
[12:35] <cprov> fta: no, it wasn't
[12:35] <fta> oh, ok
[12:35]  * fta waiting :)
[12:36]  * cprov can't wait either ... so he runs the script manually.
[12:36] <wgrant> Heh.
[12:36] <wgrant> cprov: Wouldn't it make more sense to run it more frequently now?
[12:37] <wgrant> Or does it take a while?
[12:37] <cprov> wgrant: PPAs publishing frequency changed, yes, it would make more sense if we retry builds more often.
[12:40] <cprov> fta: done.
[12:40] <fta> thanks
[13:03] <cprov> okay, all fixed, lunch then *incident* report
[13:07] <stefanlsd> Anyone else getting timeouts on https://bugs.staging.launchpad.net/ubuntu   ?
[13:09] <lifeless> staging does run on reduced hardware
[13:10] <lifeless> but its working for me
[13:10] <wgrant> It'll often work after a couple of retries.
[13:10] <wgrant> Presumably the DB server cache gets warm enough.
[13:10] <lifeless> page indices into memory
[13:10] <lifeless> yes
[13:10] <lifeless> thats what I'd assume too
[13:13] <wgrant> cprov-afk: Bug #320398
[13:13] <stefanlsd> oh yeah. works now. happens quite often on staging. and everytime i ask, it starts working.... (maybe a irc bot that picks it up and pokes something. hehe.  :)
[13:14] <wgrant> stefanlsd: Just refresh a few times, I guess.
[13:26] <cprov-afk> wgrant: yes, have to fix that as well
[13:26] <wgrant> cprov-afk: Oh, they're separate? OK.
[13:27] <cprov-afk> wgrant: yes, very ... I've only found that last one because NCommander's PPA had that.
[13:27] <cprov-afk> wgrant: and was being published every cycle.
[13:29]  * cprov-afk really goes (back in 2h)
[14:41] <zsquareplusc> is the ftp upload for ppa down? i get a connection refused
[14:42] <wgrant> germanium *is* having bad luck today.
[14:42] <\sh> zsquareplusc: me too (c) aol.com
[14:42] <wgrant> cprov-afk: ^^
[14:45] <\sh> zsquareplusc: me too (c) aol.com
[14:45] <\sh> grmpf wrong window
[16:11] <croxis> is ppa.launchpad.net not working? I'm unable to upload a package with dput (errno 111 connection refused)
[16:12] <zsquareplusc> croxis: welcome to the club :(
[16:12] <croxis> Ok, at least it isn't me :)
[16:17] <cprov-afk> uploads to ppa.launchpad.net should be ok now.
[16:17] <zsquareplusc> it worked here, yes. thanks
[16:21] <cprov-afk> great.
[16:26] <croxis> awesome! thanks
[17:47] <keffie_jayx> hello all, I have been trying to make modifications to a team (adding new members and editing team details) and it keeps saying that launchpad has had problem  ... the most recent error is (Error ID: OOPS-1260ED418)
[20:11] <eagle00789> how to fix the "Cannot find svn repository root." problem
[20:15] <zsquareplusc> eagle00789: depends what you want. if you just want a branch from a part of the repository, try "bzr branch .."
[20:15] <eagle00789> it's from the automated import
[20:26] <eagle00789> so any clue??
[20:27] <zsquareplusc> not me. i did the import myself and i just saw that error with svn-import. but branching directly from the svn repo url worked fine
[20:27] <eagle00789> ok. anybody else who knwos a sollution??
[20:30] <zsquareplusc> the PPA is assigned to the group not the project. whats the best way to show that there is a PPA for the project? include it as text in the projects description?
[20:30] <eagle00789> i've got no clue...
[21:08] <eagle00789> sorry, my isp disconnected me
[21:08] <eagle00789> they are working in my area to improve the connection
[21:10] <eagle00789> but my question still stands.
[21:10] <eagle00789> how to fix the Cannot find svn repository root. error
[22:07] <zsquareplusc> bah. how do i get rid of a "packages" entry on a project homepage?
[22:31] <stefanlsd> staging having issues again... timeout reporting bugs
[23:47] <zsquareplusc> how do i get rid of a "packages" entry on a project homepage? i created them by mistake (well, they link to the wrong place)