[00:00] <Sarvatt> is it just wireless thats not working? can ya not plug it in directly for a few minutes to make this alot easier on yourself?
[00:00] <Sarvatt> ah phew
[00:00] <Dominik> sarvatt eth dont work
[00:00] <Dominik> so now I reboot and pray?
[00:00] <Sarvatt> yup!
[00:01] <Dominik> k, shuttin down
[00:01] <BUGabundo> bye
[00:01] <BUGabundo> see you on the other side
[00:01] <Dominik> ?
[00:01] <Dominik> still here
[00:02] <Dominik> starting up ... blink blink blink so on, i think its working
[00:02] <Sarvatt> question though, we're on ubuntu+1 here so you should be on karmic's kernel anyway.. no idea why you're using the mainline kernel in the first place? :D karmic has 2.6.30-9.10 right now that is the same as that one basically so i doubt the problem will be fixed is all
[00:02] <Dominik> dont speak like that
[00:02] <Dominik> :(
[00:03] <Dominik> omg\
[00:03] <Dominik> no
[00:03] <Dominik> i have a connection but no internets
[00:03] <Dominik> ha
[00:03] <Dominik> yes, i needed to slect the other eth
[00:03] <Sarvatt> though there was a problem with rt8169 not working when you were in an environment where you had jumbo packets going around fixed between rc8 and .30 release
[00:03] <Dominik> thank you guys... id take you out but i can't
[00:04] <Sarvatt> Dominik, when you do a apt-get update and apt-get upgrade it should update to the 2.6.30-9.10 kernel thats the same as the mainline one basically with the fix so no need to keep using mainline after that at least :)
[00:05] <Dominik> don't understand the significance of previous statement please elaborate
[00:05] <Sarvatt> it'd be funny if you just so happened to be using rt8169 in a gigabit situation though :D
[00:05] <Dominik> i am?
[00:05] <Sarvatt> the karmic equivalent to the mainline kernel you just installed is already published and next time you update it'll grab it so you dont need to keep using the mainline one after
[00:05] <Dominik> na its actually intell dual 82574L gigabit
[00:05] <BUGabundo> Sarvatt: too hard for him
[00:06] <Dominik> thatks bugabundo, im afraid your right
[00:06] <Sarvatt> yeah I'm just saying that next time you upgrade your system on karmic it'll get the kernel thats equivalent to the one you just installed so you dont have to keep using the mainline one
[00:06] <Dominik> great, my fat ass just broke the chair, too excited
[00:06] <Sarvatt> that didnt help before when you couldnt connect to upgrade is all
[00:07] <BUGabundo> Sarvatt: karmic is too unstable for him
[00:07] <Sarvatt> ohh he's on jaunty?
[00:07] <BUGabundo> the 1st hard bug he find gets him stucj
[00:07] <BUGabundo> Sarvatt: seems so
[00:07] <BUGabundo> or hardy
[00:07] <Dominik> :(
[00:07] <Dominik> im on 8.04
[00:07] <Sarvatt> so there's a problem with intel 82574L in gigabit on 2.6.24 on hardy that needs to be addressed
[00:08] <BUGabundo> eheh
[00:08] <BUGabundo> bug found?
[00:08] <BUGabundo> Dominik: can you upgrade to jaunty ?
[00:09] <Dominik> waats? jouty?
[00:09] <Dominik> i have to stay below 8.10 cause nividea only realeased cuda drivers for 8.10
[00:09] <Sarvatt> i'm sure hes just happy to get hardy working now, if anything submitting a bug would be helpful but i dont know how all the automated bug reporting tools work to walk him through it :D
[00:09] <Dominik> lol
[00:10] <Sarvatt> thats not true at all, just went through that with someone else :D its just the cuda SDK that they might only release packages for but that works on everything else and cuda works with nvidia binary drivers on all the other releases :D
[00:11] <Dominik> ok, so um yall are pretty confusing to me, is there anything I need, should be doing right now?
[00:11] <dupondje> is there btw a nice site with some cool stuff for Ubuntu ?
[00:11] <Dominik> to i don't know, maybe get it stable? you seem to indicate this kernal is not
[00:11] <dupondje> just found out Gnome DO :) its uber :D
[00:12] <Dominik> if i sudo update will it move me to 9.04? because I still need those cuda drivers or all was wasted :(
[00:13] <Sarvatt> CUDA support is in the nvidia drivers for jaunty and newer, you only need the SDK if you want to develop with cuda but the support for running cuda stuff is in the drivers
[00:13] <BUGabundo> Dominik: I would burn a cd with Jaunty 9.04 and test
[00:13] <BUGabundo> dupondje: it LOVE
[00:13] <Dominik> sarvatt cuda drivers were not yet released for 9.04
[00:13] <Dominik> and I do need the SDK
[00:14] <dupondje> it love ?
[00:15] <Sarvatt> the SDK runs fine under jaunty, I have it working on my machine, it could be the default drivers in jaunty dont have support for it but you can always get them via a PPA or manually installing them if need be
[00:15] <BUGabundo> dupondje: LOLOLOL IS LOVE
[00:16] <Sarvatt> really though no harm just sticking to hardy, not trying to talk you into upgrading :)
[00:16] <Dominik> sarvatt, great id rather stick with the working install :P
[00:17] <BUGabundo> Dominik: I would burn a cd with Jaunty 9.04 and test the LiveCD. it won't change your system in any way
[00:17] <Dominik> k
[00:17] <Dominik> how would I be able to install drivers on a life cd?
[00:18] <Dominik> but does 9.04 have the .30 kernel?
[00:18] <dupondje> no
[00:18] <Dominik> then the eth wont work
[00:18] <Dominik> ?
[00:18] <LLStarks> then test the karmic livecd
[00:18] <BUGabundo> no idea
[00:19] <Sarvatt> it could have been fixed in the more than a year between hardy's 2.6.24 and 2.6.30 :D
[00:19] <BUGabundo> !dailies
[00:19] <BUGabundo> !daily
[00:19] <Sarvatt> doesnt have to be 2.6.30 specifically most likely
[00:19] <Dominik> when I read the problems with gigabit it was indicated that the .30 kernel fixed it
[00:19] <Dominik> mhh, k
[00:20] <Dominik> alright, well ill leave setting up the sdk to my teammate
[00:21] <Dominik> ill let him kno to try 9.04 first if it doesn't work hell have to update his kernel too
[00:21] <Dominik> thanks gusy
[00:23] <Sarvatt> Dominik: just curious if you dont mind, can you do a sudo lspci -vvnn and put it on pastebin somewhere so i can take a look at kernel changes to the driver and see if anything sticks out?
[00:24] <Dominik> i do not mind
[00:25] <Sarvatt> wow huge amount of changes if its e1000
[00:25] <Dominik> says invalid option --w
[00:25] <Sarvatt> thats 2 v's
[00:25] <Dominik> oh, vv
[00:25] <Dominik> right
[00:26] <Dominik> wow thats some heavy reading
[00:26] <Dominik> actually my history doesn't go back far enough to get it all
[00:27] <Sarvatt> can you see the Ethernet controller: part at least?
[00:27] <Sarvatt> thats all i really want to see
[00:28] <Dominik> hang i got it
[00:29] <Dominik> m7fffd60b
[00:29] <Dominik> can you get that?
[00:30] <Sarvatt> wheres it at?
[00:30] <Dominik> pastebin.com
[00:30] <Sarvatt> got it
[00:30] <Dominik> good luck, thanks again
[01:12] <jws141_> Wow.  DKMS is nice in Karmic.  Just re-built my broadcom wl driver with the new kernel.
[01:14] <dashua[A90]> I can stop using module-assistant now, I suppose?
[01:32] <Sarvatt> yep, its handled in the bcmwl-kernel-source package via dkms now, alot easier if you need to use that over b43 for some reason :D
[01:48] <BUGabundo> bem bou nanar. ate amanha
[01:51] <dashua[A90]> Sarvatt: Oh yes, it's very nice.
[01:56] <Sarvatt> hopefully that can start getting included on the livecd's or we can start putting the open source b43 firmware on there, it'd be nice to have wireless out of the box on broadcom :)
[02:18] <DanaG> grr. damnvidia doesn't support xrandr.
[02:21] <DanaG> apt-get source libasound2-plugins
[02:21] <DanaG> E: Could not open file /var/lib/apt/lists/ppa.launchpad.net_openoffice-pkgs_ubuntu_dists_karmic_main_source_Sources - open (2 No such file or directory)
[02:22] <DanaG> wtf does openoffice-pkgs have to do with libasound2-plugins?
[02:25] <DanaG> I know I have some invalid sources... but that shouldn't entirely prevent fetching source!
[02:26] <DanaG> ugh, now packagekit ppa is blocking it... and now gnome-do ppa is blocking it.
[02:29] <MTecknology> any ideas here? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/194727/
[02:30] <MTecknology> Internal Error: Could not find image (/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.30-9-generic)
[02:31] <dashua[A90]> Sarvatt: Yep.  Broadcom has come some ways in the past year w/ Linux support even though it's a binary blob.  I was using Debian's broadcom source/common packages to keep up with the kernel changes.  This is much nicer.
[02:31] <MTecknology> is this a bug or did I break something?
[02:35] <MTecknology> eh... I think I mighta fixed it
[03:03] <MTecknology> !info byobu
[03:45] <MTecknology> !info powernowd
[03:48] <MTecknology> Anybody have any idea how I can see how long it takes to load my openbox rc.xml config?
[03:53] <MTecknology> Amaranth: long time no see
[03:54] <MTecknology> where ya been all my life?
[03:54] <Amaranth> hiding
[04:16] <lsmobrian> it looks like my laptop is locked up, i can ssh in and move the mouse but nothing is clickable
[04:16] <lsmobrian> nothing on dmesg or x.org log
[04:17] <lsmobrian> any ideas of where to look for what when wrong if it was logged at all
[04:33] <MTecknology> Hey people... I lost my touchpad and my font is VERY odd...
[04:34] <MTecknology> any ideas what would cause that?
[05:26] <DanaG> "This changes is not comming from a source that supports changelogs"
[05:26] <DanaG> Nice grammar.
[05:44] <DanaG> I still don't get why Broadcom refuses to allow people to even DISTRIBUTE the firmware.
[05:45] <DanaG> I can understand not opening things.... but not allowing distribution?  I see no valid rationale for that.
[05:48] <billybigrigger> MTecknology::: if i recall i remember someone saying its a known bug about the touchpad
[05:49] <MTecknology> billybigrigger: thanks
[05:50] <billybigrigger>  bug 378391
[05:50] <billybigrigger> if that's your bug you should subscribe and give some info
[05:50] <billybigrigger> if not, file a new one
[05:50] <MTecknology> that's my exact bug :)
[05:50] <MTecknology> thanks :D
[05:50] <billybigrigger> np
[08:21] <DanaG> Anyone here using nouveau on an NV17 (geforce *cough*4*cough* MX)?
[09:53] <vaibhav> I just got into an issue after installing playdeb package ,400 uri error on apt update, this thread helped http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=908126
[09:53] <dupondje> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/audacious-plugins/+bug/383307
[09:54] <dupondje> somebody can accept it ? :s
[09:54] <dupondje> cause now audacious is broken in karmic
[09:54] <dupondje> because plugins are the old version and the main package is the new one ...
[10:25] <vaibhav> I lost my wifi button, nothing happen whne switch it
[11:12] <badmox> hi i cant update to 9.10 alpha because of /var/lib/python-support/python2.6/dbus/connection.py:242: DeprecationWarning: object.__init__() takes no parameters  super(Connection, self).__init__(*args, **kwargs)
[11:20] <ikonia> badmox: read the topic ?
[11:30] <badmox> what is about the topic the problem is in 9.04 but the guys in the  ubuntu channel send me in here  but this bug did not be fixt in 9.04
[11:39] <ikonia> badmox: the problem is with the 9.10 packages - it can't upgrade
[11:40] <|ns|nR8> how buggy is 9.10? i remember 9.04 wasnt that usable till beta
[11:40] <|ns|nR8> yeah ill wait
[11:58] <dobre_zuo> hi
[11:59] <dobre_zuo> where is the problem? http://paste.ubuntu.com/194955/http://paste.ubuntu.com/194955/
[12:00] <TheInfinity> non working firmware?
[12:02] <dobre_zuo> hmmm
[12:02] <dobre_zuo> maybe its disabled in bios, brb
[12:10] <dobre_zuo> re
[12:10] <dobre_zuo> still the same
[12:10] <dobre_zuo> it working under sidux
[13:02] <fosco_> hi
[13:02] <fosco_> anyone testing grub2? can not find where the config file is
[13:02] <fosco_> something like the old menu.lst
[13:04] <geser> dobre_zuo: does the named file exist in /lib/firmware?
[13:07] <catweazle> fosco_: /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[13:07] <catweazle> is another syntax
[13:07] <fosco_> catweazle: ok, is all i need to know, thanks
[13:09] <catweazle> fosco_: also something in /etc/grub.d
[13:22] <dobre_zuo> geser: this is described hire http://ipw2200.sourceforge.net/#downloads
[13:23] <dobre_zuo> In some kernel configurations (users have most frequently reported the problem only with 2.6.9), the default timeout value for the hotplug subsystem is too low
[14:41] <vaibhav> blender is not workinng properly, neither did yo! frankie any suggestion
[14:47] <vaibhav> ny1 nything,
[14:49] <dobre_zuo> !mp3
[14:57] <BUGabundo> 11boas tardes
[14:59] <BluesKaj> howdy all
[14:59] <BUGabundo> hey BluesKaj
[15:00] <BluesKaj> hi BUGabundo , what's happening today ?
[15:00] <BUGabundo> nothing much
[15:00] <BUGabundo> I guess I'll be testing openSuse
[15:00] <BUGabundo> to see if it works better on SiS HW
[15:00] <BUGabundo> and then compare to mainline kernel
[15:00] <BluesKaj> 11.1 ?
[15:01] <BUGabundo> what ever they have
[15:01] <BUGabundo> lol
[15:01] <BUGabundo> don't know much about the distro
[15:02] <BluesKaj> tried it ...it was ok , nothing earth shaking ..prolly anice distro but the chat support ppl had a lot of attitude , which to my mind wasn't justified :)
[15:03] <BUGabundo> ahah
[15:03] <BUGabundo> we are better?
[15:07] <BluesKaj> yes , for sure
[15:08] <BluesKaj> was getting some coffee
[15:09] <BUGabundo> ehe
[15:10] <BluesKaj> it's your typical chat where abunch of "linux-kids" go to show off thier linux chops and brag about what they know without really helping. Mind you there were a couple of ppl who were very helpful
[15:11] <BluesKaj> I ran it for about a week, which is prolly not long enough for a a fair critique
[17:22] <BUGabundo> why was baobao removed from the archive?
[18:14] <yoasif> so i rebooted this morning, and my right click trackpad button doesn't work anymore... any ideas?
[18:14] <billybigrigger>  bug 378391
[18:15] <CarlFK> alt-install, I have no  /boot/grub/menu.lst, but I do have  130 .mod files in  /boot/grub?
[18:15] <CarlFK> i hear this might be grub2 migration maybe?
[18:15] <billybigrigger> yoasif::: you should subscribe to that bug, and report some info
[18:16] <billybigrigger> CarlFK::: looks that way
[18:16] <billybigrigger> i do have a menu.lst though
[18:17] <billybigrigger> billybigrigger@cabo:/boot/grub$ ls menu*
[18:17] <billybigrigger> menu.lst  menu.lst~  menu.lst_backup_by_grub2_postinst
[18:17] <yoasif> billybigrigger: thanks dude :)
[18:17] <billybigrigger> yoasif::: np, seems to be a pretty common bug :P
[18:17] <CarlFK> carl@dhcp139:/boot/grub$ ls *.lst
[18:17] <CarlFK> command.lst  fs.lst  handler.lst  moddep.lst  partmap.lst  parttool.lst
[18:18] <yoasif> billybigrigger: well, tap to click was already broken for me, but now the touchpad BUTTON (right click) no longer works
[18:18] <billybigrigger> billybigrigger@cabo:/boot/grub$ ls *.lst
[18:18] <billybigrigger> command.lst  handler.lst  moddep.lst   parttool.lst
[18:18] <billybigrigger> fs.lst       menu.lst     partmap.lst
[18:18] <yoasif> should i open a new bug or throw it into that bug?
[18:18] <billybigrigger> CarlFK::: hmmm...does grub boot for you? or giving you errors it can't find menu.lst?
[18:19] <billybigrigger> yoasif::: well i imagine your new problem still stems from xserver-xorg-input-synaptics
[18:19] <billybigrigger> i wouldn't make a new bug, but someone else in here might have something else to say about that
[18:19] <yoasif> billybigrigger: yea, so should i file a new bug to that, or just add it to that one
[18:20] <billybigrigger> *I* would add it to the current bug :P
[18:20] <CarlFK> billybigrigger: it boots.  and I just installed a kerenl and see: Generating grub.cfg http://dpaste.com/54999/  so Ill go look for that
[18:22] <CarlFK> "# It is automatically generated by /usr/sbin/grub-mkconfig using templates # from  and settings from /etc/default/grub"  off to look as those...
[18:23] <yoasif> billybigrigger: considering that there are 11 dupes, i think you have the right idea :)
[18:24] <CarlFK> "# This file is sourced by update-grub, and its variables are propagated # to its children in /etc/grub.d/"   fricken scavenger hunt
[18:25] <billybigrigger> hehe
[18:25] <CarlFK> im not sure if this makes me glad or sad: carl@dhcp139:/etc/grub.d$ ls 00_header	 10_linux	30_os-prober  40_custom 05_debian_theme  20_memtest86+	30_otheros    README
[18:28] <BUGabundo> yoasif: you don't reboot that often do you ?
[18:29] <yoasif> BUGabundo: no
[18:29] <BUGabundo> eheh
[18:29] <BUGabundo> I have too
[18:29] <yoasif> i'm scared to, running an alpha OS
[18:29] <BUGabundo> after a few hibernate powercicles my laptop begins to become slow
[18:29] <BUGabundo> err don't run alpha!LOL
[18:30] <yoasif> haha... if i don't run alphas, i end up not being able to report my bugs early in the cycle
[18:30] <yoasif> i joined the jaunty testing too late to get suspend support :/
[18:30] <Twigathy> Like bugs related to booting? :-)
[18:30] <CarlFK> ok... um... how do I add a kernel parameter?
[18:30] <yoasif> thankfully, grub2 works fine on my setup
[18:31] <CarlFK> i just read though etc/grub.d/*  and have 0.0 clue about anything now
[18:31] <Twigathy> My main reason for Karmicifying my desktop was to check nothing breaks NFS root. So far so good =)
[18:31] <billybigrigger> CarlFK::: wouldn't you add kernel params at boot?
[18:32] <BUGabundo> Twigathy: ahaaha
[18:32] <BUGabundo> CarlFK: press shift on boot?
[18:32] <CarlFK> billybigrigger: you mean "hit tab, enter stuff with keyboard" ?
[18:32] <billybigrigger> CarlFK:::
[18:32] <billybigrigger> yeah
[18:32] <CarlFK> I plan on re-booting every 15 min... rather they were stored in a file  :)
[18:33] <BUGabundo> yoasif: I was joking, of course
[18:33] <yoasif> BUGabundo: hehe
[18:33] <billybigrigger> CarlFK::: look @ README
[18:33] <billybigrigger> CarlFK::: what are you wanting to do?
[18:34] <CarlFK> add panic=10 to the kernel command line,
[18:34] <billybigrigger> cause you can copy 20_memtest86 and name it whatever you want for a new entry i think, like 20_carlfk
[18:34] <billybigrigger> ahh
[18:34] <billybigrigger> make take a look at 40_custom
[18:35] <billybigrigger> grub2 looks pretty confusing haha
[18:35] <CarlFK> yeah
[18:35] <CarlFK> 40 is for adding other things to [linux, memtest, windows"
[18:36] <CarlFK> not adding things to linux
[18:36] <CarlFK> hope that made some sense
[18:37] <billybigrigger> 40 looks to be just a custom entry
[18:37] <CarlFK> linux   ${rel_dirname}/${basename} root=${linux_root_device_thisversion} ro $2
[18:37] <CarlFK>   linux_entry "${OS}, linux ${version}"   "${GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX} ${GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT}"
[18:37] <CarlFK> some how those are relevant...
[18:38] <CarlFK>  $2 comes from "${GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX} ${GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT}"
[18:39] <CarlFK> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT is a mystery
[18:40] <CarlFK> yay!  /etc/default/grub GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash"
[18:41] <CarlFK> ya know... I should have been able to guess thats what I wanted
[18:41] <billybigrigger> ahhh
[18:42] <billybigrigger> good to know :P
[18:42] <CarlFK> glad my journey of discovery babbling did some good :)
[18:43] <CarlFK> yay: linux   /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.30-999-generic root=UUID=41a393e2-a365-4e4d-befb-8175b29a28b3 ro  panic=10
[18:43] <BUGabundo> humm
[18:43] <BUGabundo> stuff is now on /etc??
[18:43] <BUGabundo> lol
[18:43] <CarlFK> BUGabundo: it is all over the place
[18:43] <CarlFK> dont look in /boot/grub - thats a scary place
[18:43]  * Twigathy will be sticking to /boot/grub/menu.lst until he is forced to do otherwise c_c
[18:43] <yoasif> newbug: messy packaging
[18:44] <BUGabundo> so no longer a /boot partition is usefull?
[18:44] <billybigrigger> good point
[18:44] <CarlFK>  /boot is still where kernel images are stored
[18:44] <yofel> Twigathy: grub2 will be default in 9.10 :P
[18:45] <Twigathy> Okay, correction, I'm not re-installing if I can help it =)
[18:45] <yofel> hehe
[18:45] <CarlFK> and /boot/grub/grub.cfg  is what is used at boot time, but thats not what you want to edit
[18:45] <billybigrigger> so /etc/default/grub is where you want to edit your entries
[18:46] <CarlFK> it's kinda like lilo, only you don't edit foo.cfg, you edit /etc/default/grub
[18:46] <CarlFK> yeah
[18:46] <CarlFK> hmmm... how is this better than lilo?
[18:47] <CarlFK> lilo: edit lilo.cfg, run lilo.  grub: edit etc/defaults/grub, run update-grub
[18:47] <Joeseph> CarlFK: Then update-grub changes the stuff in /boot/grub for you, right?
[18:47] <CarlFK> right
[18:47] <billybigrigger> haha
[18:48] <Joeseph> I like Grub2.
[18:48] <BUGabundo> yoasif: thanks for the spam mail :)
[18:48] <CarlFK> I did think the menu.lst "# language" was getting a bit odd
[18:49] <BUGabundo> Twigathy: yofel G2 will be default but not forced on current systems!!
[18:49] <Twigathy> :) good
[18:50] <yofel> yeah, I know that, would be insane otherwise...
[18:52] <Joeseph> Hmmm.... So If I don't care If I lose ll my files on my hard drive, Then there's no reason I shouldn't be running the alpha, right?  Or are there worse scenarios than that........  I have a spare PC I'm considering running the alpha on.
[18:52] <yoasif> BUGabundo: haha
[18:52] <CarlFK> Joeseph: run the alpha
[18:58] <BUGabundo> joetheodd: just run alpha... and beileve everyrhing is going to be fine. pray too !
[18:59] <CarlFK> gah... all that, and still no reboot on panic
[18:59] <CarlFK> back to u-kernl
[20:41] <DanaG> wtf... I moved my media player app from one audio device to another... and the APP volume changed.
[20:41] <DanaG> That's damn confusing.
[20:46] <BUGabundo> DanaG: hi. with pulse?
[20:46] <BUGabundo> some apps have their own
[20:47] <BUGabundo> mixer
[20:47] <BUGabundo> most media apps do
[21:08] <DanaG> BUGabundo: it's that flat-volumes "feature"
[21:08] <BUGabundo> what?
[21:08] <DanaG> https://tango.0pointer.de/pipermail/pulseaudio-discuss/2009-May/004001.html
[21:09] <DanaG> https://tango.0pointer.de/pipermail/pulseaudio-discuss/2009-May/thread.html#4001
[21:25] <BUGabundo> DanaG: "Then, turn back on Firefox and play a video.  What should happen? Since the Banshee : Firefox ratio was previously 0.8 : 1.0, my theory was that Banshee should be pushed down to 80% and Firefox starts playing at 100% (the system volume) again. "
[21:25] <BUGabundo> I have to disagree with him
[21:26] <DanaG> I say, the whole damn thing is confusing.
[21:26] <BUGabundo> if I set 100% let it BOTH be 100%
[21:26] <DanaG> If I slide the volume level of an application... I don't expect the device volume to change.
[21:26] <BUGabundo> duh
[21:26] <DanaG> If I slide the device volume control... don't change the app volume level!
[21:32] <BUGabundo> too weird
[21:58] <cwillu> BUGabundo, hey, you know of any issues with display's not actually going into power saving mode that are new in jaunty?
[22:00]  * BUGabundo pokes cwillu
[22:00] <BUGabundo> jaunty?? or karmic?
[22:00] <BUGabundo> haven't touched jaunty in a while
[22:00] <cwillu> jaunty :p
[22:00] <BUGabundo> wrong channel eheh
[22:01] <BUGabundo> I know of probs with flash
[22:01] <BUGabundo> that's about it
[22:15] <dupondje> :( this buzz is really annoying
[22:15] <dupondje> there is comming a low volume sound of the computer it seems :s
[22:15] <dupondje> dunno from where :s
[22:15] <dupondje> not the speakers
[22:15] <BUGabundo> dupondje: Mic
[22:15] <BUGabundo> duh
[22:16] <dupondje> ?
[22:17] <dupondje> why would it be the mic ?
[22:17] <dupondje> there isn't even a microphone on my computer ;)
[22:20] <BUGabundo> then I'm wrong
[22:21] <dupondje> the sound stops while i'm scrolling my volume
[22:22] <dupondje> and then its back :(
[22:23] <BUGabundo> strange
[22:24] <dupondje> yep :( and its quite annoying :(
[22:55]  * BUGabundo waves guud bye
[23:17] <yoasif> anyone seeing noticably slower nvidia driver rendering?
[23:25] <dupondje> arg, Totem doesn't want to play my movie
[23:26] <dupondje> and VLC doesn't give sound on any movie :(
[23:28] <coz_> dupondje,   have you tried mplayer?
[23:28] <coz_> sorry wrong channel
[23:45] <billybigrigger> how the hell do i downgrade my wine version? seems .23 which i have installed doesn't play nice with InstallShield, and i'm being advised to regress back to .22
[23:49] <TheInfinity> billybigrigger: you want to learn about apt-pinning
[23:50] <billybigrigger> i have the .22.deb downloaded, can i just apt-get remove .23?
[23:50] <TheInfinity> please read documentation about apt-pinning and dpkg in general.
[23:55] <vaibhav> Wi-FI button not working after upgrade, although  I am not very keen on fixing it , any1 have a solution