[00:00] * diffra is glad to be out of phone support now. [00:00] Then try to call up the colo place for a blackhole...."40,000 boxes?" [00:00] "BOTS, YOU IDIOT! BOTS! NOT BOXES" "We're entitled to how much?" [00:01] lol [00:01] I wish I had that conversation somewhere...it was recorded. [00:01] LMAO! [00:06] Then there were the bomb threats from customers....those were always fun. [00:06] or rather, ex-customers [00:07] i love doing support [00:07] at the end of the day i tell them sorry but FU you stupid cunt [00:07] learn to configure shit correctly [00:07] Of course, those were responded to by a rogue employee by "I'll level your whole neighborhood" [00:08] yeah =\ [00:09] I'm not sure answering a bomb threat with a bomb threat was the best possible response...but.. [00:09] nick125, what is a good mail system with a small footprint?, also what would you use for smtp?, i am looking into dovecote and sendmail [00:09] maybe qmail if i get bored [00:09] I used postfix/dovecot/mysql with pretty good success [00:09] will postfix run with mysql? [00:10] yep [00:10] Well, it'll store user information in MySQL easily. [00:10] will postfix allow for mail to be store in usrdir and a different dir for each mail account? [00:10] also will it chown the mail as the local user [00:11] I'm sure it will, but I never did that to be honest. I mainly used virtual users in MySQL [00:12] well i like users running from mysql but i need them in the users dir for quota [00:13] In MySQL, you can specify where it stores mail...as far as chowning it to the user, I _think_ you can do that as well, just setup the uid/gid map in MySQL. [00:13] Of course, you'll probably want to setup a script for adding/removing users. [00:13] well yeah [00:13] i am working on a django management system [00:14] Awesome. [00:16] At the VPS provider, I worked on a Django Management System....it was nice, but my partner didn't like it, so he broke out Python, CGI and ElementTree and uh....went to work. [00:17] Let's just say I about vomited when I read the code. [00:19] He was generating HTML with ElementTree..... [00:20] As in...html = Element("html"); body = Element("body"); html.append(body); body.bgcolor = "#ffffff"; [00:20] you get the idea [00:21] Anyways, I have to go for a bit. See you all later! === FFForever is now known as FFForever-Away === asac_ is now known as asac [03:20] Hey everyone === FFForever-Away is now known as FFForever [04:57] ok, this is weird... my vmware server won't let me arrow up/down & right ctrl is apparently either the end key or the page down key [04:59] pteague, sounds like yo selected a bad keyboard option, or maybe you need to just disconnect and reconnect to the virtual console [05:00] google to the rescue - http://communities.vmware.com/thread/177321 [06:18] which *chroot package do i need in order to use chroot? [07:32] Hello, I want to setup a mirror repository of http://mark.tester.be on my local server, Can anybody tell me how to do that? [07:53] Hi [07:53] I've got since a couple of days this error in a bash script running rsync over ssh : "Corrupted MAC on input" and the transfert stops, have you seen this before ? === FFForever is now known as FFForever-Away [08:55] LMJ: That error is usually caused by underlying hardware or network issues corrupting the data stream. Bad switch? bad network cabling? Bad RAM in one or other of the machines involved? etc... [09:19] how do you instal xfce under ubuntu server? [09:20] apparently wine refuses to launch win32 console app im trying to launch under the os [09:30] Mal3ko: You could probably do: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop # BUT then you'll have a machine that is not really ubuntu-server any more... you'll have a sort of hybrid between ubuntu server and xubuntu -- and support for that, on IRC or elsewhere, will be hard to find. If you need a GUI, install and use Ubuntu (or Kubuntu or Xubuntu) Desktop, not Ubuntu Server. [09:50] jmarsden [09:50] ive just read something at winefaq.. [09:51] 3.12. Will Wine run under any X window manager? Does it require a window manager at all? [09:51] "Wine is window manager independent, so the X window manager you choose to run has (almost) no bearing on your ability to run MS Windows programs under Wine. Wine uses standard X libraries, so no additional ones are needed. Wine has its own window management, which acts like MS Windows. It can be turned off to use the native window manager by modifying Managed or Desktop settings in winecfg. " [09:51] does that mean, i dont need the xfce to run the win32 app in wine..? [09:52] i only need xorg right? [09:52] Mal3ko: maybe.. [09:53] Mal3ko: but you dont need gonme, kde or xfce to start X and x-terminal for an example === ejat is now known as e-jat [15:40] typically , where would mail sent to "root" be located ? [15:44] drurew: not positive, but either /root/.Maildir or /var/spool/root/...? I think the latter is more likely in a default installation. [15:44] drurew: I usually just install the shell mail app mutt, and you can read email directly that way. or forward in your /etc/aliases so that root goes to your account [15:45] thanks PhotoJim [15:46] np [15:46] if you do /etc/aliases, don't forget to run newaliases in a shell, to make it take effect. [15:54] I've been following this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/serverguide/C/postfix.html but I can't find the package "dovecot-postfix" in apt [15:54] PhotoJim: Im setting up my new vps and im getting a crazed feeling :) [15:54] Has this package changed, or been removed? [15:55] Predominant: i just installed it a few min ago [15:55] lemme get you the name [15:55] drurew: Wouldn't happen to be going down the email virtaulhosting path, would you? [15:56] yup i am [15:56] its a bitch [15:56] :) [15:56] how do i set the locale (or compile the locale?)... i've used debootstrap to create an intrepid image, but i'm getting all sorts of errors trying to install anything else because locale hasn't been set yet [15:56] Thats exactly what I need to be doiung [15:56] drurew: Where are you up to? [15:57] Predominant: MTA postfix [15:58] ? [15:59] Predominant:im following http://flurdy.com/docs/postfix/#intro [15:59] I followed that, and ended up with a mess [16:00] Predominant: i think when you say dovecot-postfix your actually talking about two packages [16:00] I thought the serverguide would be accurate: https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/serverguide/C/postfix.html [16:00] Predominant: what are you folloing now [16:01] http://packages.ubuntu.com/sv/jaunty/dovecot-postfix [16:02] Predominant:im configuring :/etc/postfix/main.cf [16:02] im going to try via webmin (shoudl be easyer [16:02] ) [16:02] Argh [16:02] I am on hardy [16:02] Stupid VPS provider [16:03] Predominant: yeah but just the same, just switch out "jaunty" for "hardy" and it should work [16:03] (dont tell anyone i told you ) [16:03] :D [16:03] I should probably upgrade the system [16:03] maybe [16:04] the spools (mirror) is built the same ... it worked for my local systems [16:05] i have the problem that my host (hosteurope) has their own repos and yeah i can change them but it will give me more traffic (dont want that right now) [16:06] Predominant: you could also wget the packages for jaunty and dpkg them [16:06] eww [16:06] for your hardy box [16:06] its not hard [16:07] i had to do that for a closed box that had no internet connection and was to host repos for this closed network, needed to install apache and managed, the system didnt crap out on me [16:07] https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/serverguide/C/postfix.html [16:08] I will follow that [16:09] pteague: export lc_all='en_EN.UTF-8' [16:12] nope, even with that i still get a perl warning... please check your locale settings: LANGUAGE = (unset), \ LC_ALL = "en_EN.UTF-8", \ LANG = "en_US.UTF-8" \ are supported and installed on your system [16:13] & i can't figure out what i'm supposed to install or run to configure it... i found something that said to run `dpkg-reconfigure localeconf`, but there's no localeconf package in intrepid === MianoSM1 is now known as MianoSM [16:14] /usr/share/locales/install-language-pack en_US.UTF-8 [16:17] en_US.UTF-8... localedef: unrecognized option '--magic=20051014' [16:21] Predominant: IT WORKS!!! [16:21] What did you do [16:21] i installed webmin [16:22] :D [16:22] (im such a noob) [16:23] Dont argue with results. [16:23] :) [16:23] Predominant: try and spam me [16:23] no dont [16:23] nho [16:23] heh [16:24] now for gpg encryption [16:28] !gog [16:28] Sorry, I don't know anything about gog [16:28] !gpg [16:28] gpg is the GNU Privacy Guard. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto and class #8 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ClassroomTranscripts [16:57] point me at a "howto" use gpg keys with webmin mail please [16:57] ok, apparently i'm missing data files somewhere or something because running `/usr/share/locales/install-language-pack en_US.UTF-8` gives me an error about unrecognized option '--magic=20051014' & even `/usr/share/locales/install-language-pack en_US.UTF-8 UTF-8` seems to work (no errors), but subsequently still leaves me with no locale installed... :( [17:02] http://pastebin.com/m60571584 [17:10] pteague: do you have /usr/share/i18n/SUPPORTED stuff there [17:11] pteague: its only files tha man locale mention using [17:12] /usr/share/i18n/SUPPORTED exists [17:13] & has 3 en_US entries... [17:13] UTF-8, ISO-8859-1, & ISO-8859-15 [17:14] quick question, does the ubuntu server boot to the command line or gui? (prefer command line) [17:15] sorry,I should specify the live cd [17:15] ubuntu-server cd boots to a command line gui [17:15] awesome, ty [17:16] err, command line gui? [17:16] (and doesn't have a live cd AFAIK) [17:16] it's eitehr all text or all gui, which is it? [17:16] uses ascii characters to make menus [17:16] cvw: to cli, if you dont add gdm or similiat to start at boot [17:17] pteague: ascii is not gui :) [17:17] yes it is [17:17] gui = grafical user interface, even ascii characters are grafics [17:18] well, it's my opinion then, we'll leave it at that [17:19] try use mc and say that its grafical user interface, or iptraf [17:19] or mplayer with aalib :) [17:21] simplexio: I do, however, text-only is not images, icons, etc. which constitute GUI. Anyhow, this is a silly discussion. [17:22] cheers === FFForever-Away is now known as FFForever [17:48] !dns [17:48] DNS is an acronym for Domain Name System, and is an internet system used to translate names into IP Address. [17:49] !django [17:49] django is a high level python web framework that encourages rapid development and clean, pragmatic design. - see http://www.djangoproject.com [17:49] !apache_django [17:49] Sorry, I don't know anything about apache_django [17:49] =( [17:49] !apache+django [17:49] Sorry, I don't know anything about apache+django [17:49] !rails [17:49] Sorry, I don't know anything about rails [17:50] !ror [17:50] Sorry, I don't know anything about ror [17:50] !rubyonrails [17:50] Sorry, I don't know anything about rubyonrails [17:50] !HAHA! [17:50] Sorry, I don't know anything about HAHA! [17:50] :D [17:50] !bot-abuse | FFForever [17:50] Sorry, I don't know anything about bot-abuse [17:50] :P [17:50] thought rails was pretty cool [17:51] !botabuse | FFForever [17:51] FFForever: Please investigate with me only with "/msg ubottu Bot" or in #ubuntu-bots. Search for factoids with "/msg ubottu !search factoid". [17:51] but i know django is supreme ruler :D [17:51] django is aslo cool esp if you already know some stuff bout building your page [17:51] true true [17:51] dev by cnn, i think [17:54] ive been using cgi for the last year and now i am moving to django [17:54] well python via cgi i should say... === FFForever is now known as FFForever-Away [18:58] I am having an issue with php-mail on my ubuntu server. Has anyone got time to help? [19:01] rock3: Don't ask to ask, just ask. [19:04] whats the problem? [19:07] I have to use phpmail feature for my joomla install. I have installed the php-mail on the server but can't get any email out. [19:08] Sorry I was on another channel and not paying attention to this one. [19:09] I can't find much in the way of a manual or reference on how to insure it is setup right or test. [19:10] rock3: can you send mail from the command line? [19:10] I am new to linux and ubuntu. How do I do that? [19:10] rock3::: tail -f /var/log/mail.log while your trying to send mail [19:11] ^^^^what billybigrigger says [19:11] dthacker: Error: "^^^what" is not a valid command. [19:11] rock3::: oh...your new eh, do you know how to use the command line? [19:11] dru laughs [19:11] Somewhat. I am remoted into the system with putty right now. [19:11] points the finger [19:11] billybigrigger has a good suggestion [19:11] rock3: use the "mail" command [19:12] what "mail" command? [19:12] terminal: mail [19:12] so your trying to send mail through joomla right? [19:12] !konsole [19:12] The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE). Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal [19:12] mail [19:13] Yes. I am trying to send mail through my joomla. [19:13] !mail [19:13] mail is another medium to communicate. Ubuntu mailinglists can be found at http://lists.ubuntu.com [19:13] heh [19:13] do what i said in your terminal....tail -f /var/log/mail.log this will watch your mail logs, then try and send the email [19:13] any errors will show up in your terminal [19:13] but i might have to ask a dumb question....do you have a working mail system at the moment? [19:14] rock3: Basically, first check that email is working on your machine; then get email in PHP working on your machine. [19:14] :D [19:14] Tons of errors on terminal window. [19:14] I am trying to use my isp's mail server. [19:14] They allow relay so no issue there. [19:15] rock3::: well first check this link... [19:15] uuh well you still need dovecot or courier setup to relay mail from your server to your isp [19:15] https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/serverguide/C/index.html [19:16] New bug: #386768 in dovecot (main) "auth-worker(default): malloc: 197212: Cannot allocate memory" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/386768 [19:16] I am checking the link now. brb. Thanks. [19:17] read the mail section [19:19] rock3: As for lacking docs... http://us3.php.net/manual/en/mail.requirements.php says you need a sendmail binary for the PHP mail stuff to work... did you fulfill that requirement with postfix (or sendmail or exim or whatever MTA you want to use) ? [19:20] I have the sendmail configured but doesn't seem to work. [19:21] I am thinking I have something wrong in my configuration. But I am not sure what. [19:21] that's normal for sendmail [19:21] try with postfix [19:23] I am going to the server to install postfix. Brb. [19:25] ssh man [19:25] rock3: Going to it? Just sudo apt-get install postfix # no need to go anywhere [19:27] I can't be remoted in and install. I have an issue with internal nic and external nic. I can have one or the other enabled. If both are enabled I can't get into server or can't install or do updates. [19:28] I am trying to resolve that issue as well. [19:28] i guess you have misconfigured routes [19:28] lets solve that issue first [19:28] What do you want me to do? [19:28] enable only local interface [19:28] and ssh to the server [19:29] It fails. [19:29] Or ssh to the local ip? [19:29] ssh to local ip, yes [19:29] On sec. [19:30] okay, I am in. [19:31] now paste content of /etc/network/interfaces on paste.ubuntu.com [19:32] Done. [19:32] and the link is...? [19:33] http://paste.ubuntu.com/195146/ [19:33] Sorry about that. Too many windows open at same time. [19:33] so, you have only one interface defined [19:34] you said you have two [19:34] The other is set for dhcp inside gnome. [19:34] don't do that [19:35] This is how ubuntu installed. I'm sure there is another way you are about to tell me. [19:35] What do I do? [19:35] another nic is eth1, right? [19:35] Correct. [19:35] s/another/other/ [19:36] What does that mean? [19:36] so, not eth0 is down? [19:36] now [19:37] ifconfig will tell you what's up [19:37] If I enable etho1 then etho goes down [19:37] add this to /etc/network/interfaces: [19:37] eth1 eth0 [19:37] auto eth1 [19:37] iface eth1 inet dhcp [19:39] how, the problem is that your dhcp server will provide your server with ip for default gateway [19:39] and you'll have two default gateways [19:39] which could be a problem in your setup [19:39] I only want the interanl interface for internal comm. No need for gateway there. [19:40] ok [19:40] then you have to tell you dhclient to ignore gateways it recievs [19:41] in /etc/dhcp3 directory [19:41] how? [19:41] there's dhclient.conf file [19:41] one sec. [19:41] request ... routers, [19:42] remove that ' routers,' [19:43] Done. [19:43] now bring eth1 up [19:43] ifup eth1 [19:45] it says interface eth1 already configured. [19:45] ok [19:45] then /etc/init.d/networking restart [19:47] so, eth0 is up === ejat is now known as e-jat [19:48] yep. Seems to be working now. Thanks!!!! [19:48] great [19:49] Now I have to do that for my other server. brb. [19:49] :) === daxroc1 is now known as daxroc [19:54] okay other server is fixed. [19:55] Now back to my postfix issue. [19:55] What do I do once postfix is installed? [19:56] send emails [19:56] I don't have to configure it? [19:57] it asked you couple of questions during install [19:58] if you answered correctly, there isn't much else to configure [19:58] nothing. it auto ran on it's own. [19:58] Should I reinstall? [19:58] sudo apt-get install postfix [19:58] didn't ask you a single question? [19:59] it had to. [19:59] Nothing. It does say it is already installed. [19:59] Should I uninstall and reinstall? [19:59] no blue screen with selection? [20:00] nothing. [20:00] you aren't using ubuntu, right? [20:00] I am using ubuntu 9 server [20:00] Latest build [20:00] there is only 9.04 [20:01] there is no such thing as latest build [20:01] That's what is installed. [20:01] Downloaded it last week from ubuntu. [20:01] ok, reinstall postfix [20:01] and look at the screen [20:01] How do I uninstall? [20:01] apt-get purge postfix [20:01] ivoks: There is Karmic Alpha2 ... is that "latest build??" [20:02] jmarsden: :p [20:03] installing now. Now I get a blue screen. Didn't before. [20:04] you had to [20:04] maybe you forgot :) [20:04] No, I really didn't get this screen. [20:05] Which do I use? Internet site, internet with smarthost, etc??? [20:05] depends on what kind of mail server you are setting up [20:05] I want to use my mail server at 1and1. [20:05] will it be a real mail server [20:05] 1and1? [20:06] No just for sending out email from my joomla site. 1and1 is a hosting service. I have the domain reg there and basic email. [20:06] rock3: then you want smarthost [20:07] Do I use my FQDN or the hosting company [20:07] for what? [20:07] I am on the "mail name" page. [20:08] put fqdn of your machine [20:08] of that server [20:09] relay host is smtp.1and1.com right? [20:09] well, you should know that [20:10] interesting [20:10] dig -t mx 1and1.com [20:10] MX records are in germany :) [20:10] I know what their smtp is. Do I use that as the relay? [20:10] yes [20:15] I give up. That doesn't work. [20:15] anything can work :) anything in /var/log/mail.log? [20:15] what doesn'y? [20:16] did you install php5-mail? [20:16] it says dns lookup failed for sender domain (in reply to mail from command) [20:16] oh... php-mail [20:16] so, 1and1 is rejecting the mail. [20:16] Correct. [20:16] so, what's the fqdn you put? [20:17] Joomla uses php mail [20:17] the domain that you're sending from exists? [20:17] projectforefront.net [20:17] and that's what you put in the 'mail name' field earlier? [20:18] I see diffra.com connecting [20:18] haha [20:18] :) I was hoping to see your mail name in the banner [20:18] Anything? [20:19] 220 ubuntuserver2.projectforefront.net ESMTP Postfix (Ubuntu) [20:19] http://dpaste.com/55037/ [20:19] That is correct. [20:19] ubuntuserver2.projectforefront.net doesn't exist [20:19] bingo [20:19] I need to create at the hosting company and forward to the server? [20:19] php mail() sends as www-data@ [20:20] so, it's sending as www-data@ubuntuserver2.projectforefront.net [20:20] edit the relevant line in /etc/postfix/main.cf [20:20] hehe, need to fix that [20:20] create cname ubuntuserver2.projectforefront.net for projectforefront.net [20:20] or, add your server's hostname to DNS [20:20] or change fqdn in postfix [20:20] redundacy is good :D [20:21] good is redundancy [20:21] dump the ubuntuserver2 from main.cf? [20:21] <\sh> whatever you do adjust your spf record ;) [20:21] rock3: yes, and /etc/mailname [20:21] One sec [20:21] if exists [20:22] anybody have any ideas on using chroot? i'm having issues after using debootstrap ... i can't get the locale setup :( [20:22] command for restarting postfix? [20:22] /etc/init.d/postfix reload [20:23] that string is embedded into muscle memory for me... [20:23] I am learning. Thanks for all the help and not treating me like an idiot. [20:23] <\sh> /etc/init.d/postfix restart , for really restarting... or /etc/init.d/postfix reload when you adjusted your configuration [20:23] that and aptisudo [20:24] postconf reload [20:24] restart also works for most things in /etc/init.d/ but sometimes it doesn't seem clean... i tend to stop & start [20:24] postfix restarted. Can you check now? [20:24] pteague: i thought restart just called stop and start for most things? [20:24] 220 ubuntuserver2.projectforefront.net ESMTP Postfix (Ubuntu) [20:24] :( [20:25] if you're having issues you can call stop & then do a `ps aux | grep servicename` to make sure it's not still running [20:25] try now [20:25] for the record, postfix' init script restart just calls stop and start [20:25] same, rock3 [20:25] I did a restart the first time and reload the second. [20:26] although the banner might be use /etc/hostname -- try sending a message now [20:27] did you fix /etc/mailname? [20:27] Yeah, I will double check. Hold one. [20:28] ok, let's try again: [20:28] postconf myorigin [20:28] postconf myhostname [20:29] (myorigin is really the one we care about for getting your mail accepted) [20:32] rock3: ? [20:33] Sorry. Was logged in at hosting company. Set smtp record to smtp.projectforefront.net. Pointed record to ip address. [20:33] Check now. [20:33]