[00:16] <_Groo_> neversfelde: i just sent it to my ppa.. they fixed the twiterpocalipse
[00:18] <neversfelde> _Groo_: I know
[00:18] <_Groo_> neversfelde: i know you know, i was confirming :D
[00:18] <neversfelde> :)
[00:18] <_Groo_> neversfelde: "although I cannot test, because I left twitter"
[00:18] <_Groo_> so.. confirmed
[00:19] <neversfelde> yes, several people also confirmed, mtux is a fast dev :)
[01:48] <vorian> neversfelde: when you are ready for sponsoring, please remember to assign the bug to one - status needs to be set as confirmed
[02:19] <vorian> is anyone else experiencing an eternal kwattetd notification?
[02:19] <vorian> or a laptop that does not go to sleep properly when the lid is closed?
[05:18] <yuriy> vorian: I got the eternal kwallet notification on my karmic
[05:19] <vorian> grrr
[05:19] <vorian> yuriy: i've found that when I log in, if I can enter my wallet password quick enough - it stops the eternal notificatino
[05:19] <vorian> notification too!
[16:36] <nixternal> 11 hours of country music is just way to much vorian
[16:49] <ScottK> nixternal: You needed to experience it to know that?
[17:02] <ryanakca> Is it possible to sync something from Debian NEW?
[17:04] <nhandler> ryanakca: No, we can't access the package while it is in NEW
[17:04] <ryanakca> nhandler: Bummer
[17:07] <Mamarok> is it normal that a guy with a Kubuntu install
[17:08] <Mamarok> is it normal that a guy with a 9.04 instll doesn't have the kdebase package?
[17:08] <Mamarok> +a
[17:08] <JontheEchidna> Mamarok: yes, that's just a metapackage that will install the entirety of kdebase if installed
[17:09] <Mamarok> ok, he seemed not to have kdelibs neither...
[17:14] <neversfelde> vorian: did you add the entry about the copyright symbol to choqoks changelog?
[17:15] <ryanakca> Lovely, I got an email from a FOSS artist willing to help us out... I'll forward him to here, but anything art things that need to be done at the moment?
[17:23] <nixternal> can someone explain why we went from (C) to the copyright symbol?
[17:24] <nhandler> nixternal: I didn't know about the switch, but (C) last I heard really has no meaning. Only the word Copyright or the copyright symbol are officially recognized (along with some weird abbreviation for Copyright)
[17:25] <nixternal> that I know, but we are using the word Copyright and the symbol together from some that I have seen
[17:26] <nixternal> and the Debian copyright file isn't the end-all/say-all either, as there is a COPYING file shipped with the package that is the end-all/say-all
[17:27] <nixternal> I don't even understand the convenience offered by the copyright file honestly in debian packaging..is there a way to query it at all with apt/dpkg?
[17:27] <nixternal> kind of like how RPM does with copyright querying
[17:30] <ryanakca> nixternal: dpkg --license <package>
[17:31] <ryanakca> or dpkg --licence <package>
[17:31] <nixternal> ya, shouldn't have said dpkg, but apt only
[17:31] <nixternal> all that does is spit out the GPL or what not
[17:32] <ryanakca> *nod*
[17:32] <nixternal> nothing more than cat /usr/share/common-licenses
[17:32] <nhandler> There will probably be several new tools developed if/when the machine readable format is adopted by Debian
[17:33] <nixternal> changelog, control, rules - all that should make up the debian directory, except for patches dir
[17:33] <nixternal> .install files and the post/pre stuff
[17:33] <nixternal> though that stuff could be done in rules...debian packaging is a bit inefficient isn't it?
[17:34] <nixternal> RPMs have the .spec file which does everything, arch has a nice little file too...actually all other package managers are typically one file as well, except for debian :)
[17:35] <nixternal> never understood it honestly, maybe that is why people say it is difficult to get into packaging maybe...never really thought about it until just now
[17:35] <JontheEchidna> Nice: http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-pim&m=124358721723888&w=2
[17:35] <ryanakca> Can you tag a revision with bzr-builddeb? Ex, with svn-buildpackage, svn-buildpackage --svn-tag-only
[18:12] <ryanakca> rgreening: Did you ever get the email about the logo?
[18:26] <vorian> nixternal: yeah, that's my live EVERY DAY!!!!!!!!!!!
[18:27] <vorian> life even
[19:12] <e-jat> vorian:
[19:12] <e-jat> anyone here have try this : http://duncan.mac-vicar.com/blog/archives/545
[19:19] <e-jat> ?
[19:23] <_Groo_> hi/2 all
[19:27] <Riddell> hello
[19:30] <_Groo_> hi Riddell
[19:31] <_Groo_> Riddell: just to let you know, im doing the package for liblastfm and starting to make experimental packages for amarok 2.2, so i can follow the codebase changes
[19:33] <Riddell> _Groo_: oh excellent
[19:34] <neversfelde> is it necessary to set debhelper (>= 7) when using pkg-kde-tools?
[19:34] <_Groo_> Riddell: the docking capabilities where merged friday.. cant wait to test the new beast :)
[19:34] <vorian> e-jat: hmmm?
[19:35] <e-jat> vorian: have u try facebook plugin in kopete
[19:35] <vorian> na, i don't use kopete
[19:36] <e-jat> vorian: owh ..
[19:36] <_Groo_> vorian: why?
[19:36] <neversfelde> e-jat: it is a little bit buggy, cause it does not accept the global status
[19:36] <neversfelde> or it is a missing feature
[19:36] <neversfelde> but it works :)
[19:36] <e-jat> neversfelde: owh ..
[19:36] <e-jat> neversfelde: have u try it ?
[19:36] <neversfelde> yes
[19:37] <vorian> _Groo_: i don't use im
[19:37] <Riddell> e-jat: kopete-facebook should appear in karmic in an hour or so
[19:37] <Riddell> neversfelde: I don't think it's necessary, but why wouldn't you?
[19:37] <e-jat> an hour .. huhu .. then i better wait for it .. rather then try to compile it
[19:38] <e-jat> Riddell: thanks for da info ..
[19:38] <neversfelde> Riddell: I wonder if it is necessary to bump the version of debhelper and compat
[19:38] <e-jat> maybe i can have my sleep then wake up .. search for the facebook plugin
[19:38] <e-jat> :)
[19:40] <JontheEchidna> technically pkg-kde-tools does depend on debhelper 7
[19:41] <vorian> it also reads .install files much better
[19:41] <neversfelde> ok, so use debhelper 7?
[19:41] <vorian> yus, i would
[19:41] <vorian> tm
[19:41] <neversfelde> will do , thanks :)
[19:42] <vorian> is there some super battery saving app out there?
[19:42] <e-jat> vorian: :)
[19:42] <e-jat> inform me if there is ..
[20:35] <sourcemaker> I have a problem with akonadi... when I start kontact I receive the error message: Bridged resource '3ZQHxFgETK' has no standard resource.
[20:36] <sourcemaker> KDE 3.4b2
[20:37] <sourcemaker> and 2 minutes later... Akonadi stopped... with crash
[20:54] <_Groo_> hi/2 all
[20:55] <_Groo_> Riddell: are you there, i could use some help
[20:55] <_Groo_> JontheEchidna: ping
[20:56] <JontheEchidna> what's up?
[20:56] <_Groo_> JontheEchidna: im making the liblastfm package but im having some problems with the debian/tmp fase
[20:58] <_Groo_> JontheEchidna: the config is a misture of configure with .pro files.. in the deb installation fase it is creating two dirs _bin and _include in the src root level... how can i put in .install fles to go up two levels? so i can redirect the installed files
[20:58] <JontheEchidna> ../../
[20:59] <_Groo_> i did that
[20:59] <JontheEchidna> hm
[21:00] <JontheEchidna> in that case I usually just fiddle until things work :D
[21:17] <_Groo_> JontheEchidna: now its creating inside debian/liblastfm0/_bin but it gives me this error:
[21:18] <_Groo_> dpkg-shlibdeps: failure: couldn't find library liblastfm.so.0 needed by debian/liblastfm0/_bin/liblastfm_fingerprint.so.0.1.0 (its RPATH is '').
[21:18] <_Groo_> Note: libraries are not searched in other binary packages that do not have any shlibs or symbols file.
[21:18] <_Groo_> but liblastfm.so.0 its there
[21:47] <_Groo_> could anyone help me making liblastfm package? im at the point of giving up :P
[21:53] <_Groo_> ppl how do i change autotools.mk default ./configure rule?
[22:05] <Riddell> _Groo_: use qmake.mk surely?
[22:05] <Riddell> if it's a qmake build system
[22:05] <Riddell> and that should run make install into debian/tmp
[22:05] <_Groo_> Riddell: actually i need autotools.mk e debhelper.mk
[22:06] <_Groo_> but i need to declare ./configure with --prefix /usr how do i change the value?
[22:07] <_Groo_> finally! a workable build with liblastfm0 and liblastfm-dev... i just need to rebuild pointing to /usr instead of /usr/local
[22:07] <_Groo_> although it uses qmake, it uses autotools to build.. so autotools.mk does the trick
[22:12] <_Groo_> ok fixed.. liblastfm ready to rock :)
[22:13] <_Groo_> Riddell: im gonna dput to my ppa, ~paulo.miguel.dias, you can get the work from there
[22:33] <claydoh> Mamarok: w00t personal attacks from steven! yay!
[22:51] <_Groo_> Riddell: JontheEchidna: liblastfm ready in https://edge.launchpad.net/~paulo-miguel-dias/+archive/ppa
[23:15] <JontheEchidna> kde svn 982099