[00:10] <amorphous_> could anyone tell me the app name for snapshot of screen? waits for borders from mouse before taking pic... i cant remeber or find the name :/
[00:10] <amorphous_> sorry if that was twice... getting used to K
[00:11] <jussi01> amorphous_: ksnapshot
[00:28] <LeeJunFan> oh good, 4.2.4 is in bugfix now, I thought I was stuck with 4.3.0b2, since 4.2 isn't in ppa any more.
[00:33] <javier> Hi
[00:38] <login__> olá
[00:38] <login__> hello
[00:38] <login__> please
[00:38] <login__> a help
[00:38] <FloodBotK1> login__: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:38] <login__> some one here
[00:39] <login__> eiiiii
[00:40] <login__> k
[00:40] <Telengard> ?
[00:41] <login__> engilsh or portuguese
[00:41] <Telengard> e
[00:41] <login__> i buy a notebook
[00:41] <login__> and its have a kubuntu kde 3.5.10
[00:42] <Telengard> :)
[00:42] <login__> but the usb pendrive dont
[00:42] <login__> i cant find the pendrive
[00:42] <login__> i cant see
[00:43] <Telengard> does an icon show on the desktop when pendrive plugged in?
[00:43] <login__> no
[00:44] <Telengard> did you read the thread?  http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3102527.0
[00:45] <login__> so
[00:46] <Telengard> my mistake, sorry
[00:46] <Telengard> I don't know the reason
[00:53] <brk> amorphus: Choose Applications ▸ Accessories ▸ Take Screensho
[00:54] <Telengard> login_ I think it may be a known bug in Kubuntu. See http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3098204.0 and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=860910
[00:55] <Telengard> login_ Read those two threads, there are some ideas for fixing the problem.
[00:58] <togetic> so, anyone willing to help me resolve the problems on me comp.?
[00:58] <togetic> computer boots into a frozen kdm screen
[00:59] <togetic> mouse and keyboard both don't respond
[01:01] <Telengard> togetic : Output of "lsb_release -a" and "
[01:02] <Telengard> without the quotes of course
[01:03] <nikitis> Is anyone knowledgable about converting videos to ipod?
[01:03] <nikitis> I've followed the guides, but i'm getting errors
[01:05] <Telengard> togetic : Is this you? http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3103617.0
[01:06] <ses59> how should I partition a 1 TB drive  I have 320 gig sda1 4.9g /boot sda2 59.1g / sda3 217.6g /home now and will install TB and clean install
[01:06] <ses59> tried ext 4 but cannot delete files now
[01:06] <ses59> going back to ext3
[01:10] <Dragnslcr> ses59- I'd say 25-50 GB for /, 4 GB for swap, and the rest for /home
[01:12] <Zorael> Philip5: The widget and the new Amarok works great, just had to remove that conflicting package
[01:12] <ses59> ok just 3 partitions is 4 gig enough with 6 gig ram memory
[01:12] <ses59> I run a lot of virtual boxes 4 most of the time
[01:13] <Zorael> ign0ramus: You went offline before I had the chance to mention it earlier, but the problem with the mtrr thing is that it seems to (on some kernels?) reset upon restart of X. So having it in rc.local is enough for the first session of X, but then you'd have to run it manually after restarting it.
[01:13] <ign0ramus> Zorael, i initially put the script in /etc/init.d
[01:14] <ign0ramus> Zorael, with no usplash, it seemed to have initiated upon each boot
[01:14] <Zorael> ign0ramus: yeah, but I had it reset each time I restarted X (which I do every now and then to try new intel drivers)
[01:15] <ses59> thank you for the information dragnslcr
[01:15] <ign0ramus> Zorael, i put the script in /etc/init.d and then did "update-rc.d fixmtrr.sh defaults:
[01:15] <katoda> Hi, does anybody know if it's possible to check what does the program keep in memory and how to do that?
[01:15] <ign0ramus> Zorael, that is the proper way to use a startup script, correct?
[01:16] <davidjheinrich> quick question: where should custom-apps go? (i.e., not installed via apt-get, but d/l-ed as .tgz file)?
[01:16] <katoda> davidjheinrich: /opt
[01:16] <Zorael> ign0ramus: I'm not too knowledgeable about that, honestly, though I would just have put a line in /etc/rc.local that calls the script. :3
[01:16] <ign0ramus> davidjheinrich, if you use checkinstall, they are installed as .debs
[01:17] <davidjheinrich> what is checkinstall?
[01:17] <Telengard> davidjheinrich : If you compile from source you can sometimes just leave the executable in your home folder.
[01:17] <davidjheinrich> yea, I can run it from my home folder
[01:17] <ign0ramus> davidjheinrich, from apt-cache show: "
[01:17] <ign0ramus> CheckInstall keeps track of all the files created or
[01:17] <ign0ramus>  modified by your installation script ("make install"
[01:17] <davidjheinrich> but I'd prefer to ave it in system
[01:17] <ign0ramus>  "make install_modules", "setup", etc), builds a
[01:17] <ign0ramus>  standard binary package and installs it in your
[01:17] <FloodBotK1> ign0ramus: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:17] <ign0ramus>  system giving you the ability to uninstall it with your
[01:18] <davidjheinrich> ahh, I didn't compile
[01:18] <ign0ramus> sorry - thought the lines were properly wrapped
[01:18] <davidjheinrich> these were pre-combiled, but not offered as .deb's
[01:18] <Dragnslcr> ses59- normally you want somewhere around 1.5 to 2 times your memory for swap space, but I think that's primarily for suspend-to-RAM. If you don't plan on using the whole TB, you can go ahead and make swap something like 10 GB
[01:18] <ign0ramus> davidjheinrich, that's just it - checkinstall creates and installs the app as a .deb instead of doing "sudo make install"
[01:18] <Zorael> ign0ramus: still, it'd reset after I stopped X (sudo service kdm stop), so I used visudo to let everyone run the script passwordlessly with sudo (since superuser privileges are needed to write to /proc/mtrr) and set it to run at login
[01:19] <ign0ramus> davidjheinrich, that way, the program is easily removed using "dpkg -r"
[01:19] <davidjheinrich> ign04amus: yea, I understand that...but what about a app already pre-compiled...I didn't compile it. It just comes as a compressed folder
[01:19] <ign0ramus> davidjheinrich, would you have to run "sudo make install" on this pre-compiled app?
[01:20] <ses59> Dragnslcr thank you and will make the swap 10 and use ex3 till ext4 becomes more stable
[01:20] <davidjheinrich> nope, there is no install file...it comes with a startup-script ready to launch (the prog is Raw Therapee)
[01:20] <ign0ramus> Zorael, when did i write that???
[01:20] <Dragnslcr> ses59- yeah, I'd definitely recommend ext3 for a while longer
[01:20] <Zorael> ign0ramus: I'm sorry, what? Just explaining why just having it start at boot didn't cut it for me
[01:21] <Telengard> davidjheinrich : If it is just a stand alone executable file, then you can probably drop it into any folder on the $PATH
[01:21] <ign0ramus> Zorael, dude, where are you digging up my comments from?  i drink a lot, but i don't remember saying any of that recently O_o
[01:22] <Zorael> ign0ramus: I'm not quoting you, I'm aiming this at you! :3
[01:22] <davidjheinrich> yea, ok, so maybe I should stick them all in /opt and add that and subdirectories to $PATH
[01:22] <Zorael> ign0ramus: Konversation suffixes nicks with a colon, instead of a comma or other signs (>)
[01:23] <ign0ramus> Zorael, oh, my bad :3  no, your comments read a lot like what i've been posting, but i didnt remember wording it like that :)
[01:23] <Zorael> :3
[01:23] <Fizix> Hi, please excuse an uber-newb move, but I can't seem to figure out how to remedy this little problem, even after reading through some forums...
[01:23] <Telengard> davidjheinrich : I'm not aware of any possible problems that way. However, it would be better to consult the program's documentation/FAQ/forum/author to find out how they expect you to install it.
[01:23] <Fizix> ...In Gnome, when I wanted to use my Verizon Wireless card, I just clicked on it in its Network Manager. KDE's is much different and I can't seem to get Kubuntu's (9.04) to read my card. Can anyone help?
[01:23] <ign0ramus> Zorael, so you had the same issue too, or just advising on how you'd go about it?
[01:23] <Zorael> ign0ramus: Yeah
[01:24] <s0me0ne_0utside> Gnome really sucks
[01:24] <s0me0ne_0utside> was crashinh a lot
[01:24] <Zorael> ign0ramus: same issue, and giving advice as per what I learned
[01:24] <ign0ramus> Zorael, ahh... i didn't know that.  that's why i thought you were quoting stuff that i'd said before.  maybe i should drink a little less ;)
[01:24] <Zorael> ign0ramus: ah, heh
[01:25] <Zorael> ign0ramus> Changed the quotation mark, better?
[01:25] <davidjheinrich> thanks Telengard, ign0ramus
[01:25] <ign0ramus> Zorael, i tried using the Autostart option in System Settings to run the script at startup, but it would just open the script with Kate
[01:25] <ign0ramus> Zorael, no, i was just having a 'moment'
[01:25] <ign0ramus> Zorael, i prefer the comma anyway :3
[01:27] <Zorael> ign0ramus: well, make sure it's set to executable, obviously
[01:27] <ign0ramus> Zorael, yep.  which log shows scripts run at boot?
[01:27] <Fizix> Can anyone help me get Kubuntu's network manager to read/use my Wireless card?
[01:28] <Philip5> Zorael: good to hear
[01:28] <s0me0ne_0utside_> Fizix: what's the problem?
[01:29] <Telengard> Fizix : While you wait for help you can start reading up http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?action=search2
[01:29] <Zorael> ign0ramus: Not sure if /var/log/kdm.log logs that sort of thing.
[01:31] <davidjheinrich> how can I find out where my $PATH's are being specified? I have binaries in ~/bin (recursively) being able to launched on the command line, but don't see that in .bashrc
[01:31] <ign0ramus> davidjheinrich, /etc/environment, i think
[01:32] <s0m0ne0utsdeTher> davidjheinrich: grep in /etc for it. maybbe in ~/profile or /etc/profile or so
[01:32] <Telengard> davidjheinrich : echo $PATH
[01:32] <s0m0ne0utsdeTher> anal^
[01:32] <davidjheinrich> yeap, I see all the paths; I just don't realize where hey're coming from
[01:32] <davidjheinrich> I forgot where I specified hem
[01:32] <davidjheinrich> arg
[01:32] <ign0ramus> davidjheinrich, it is /etc/environment
[01:33] <davidjheinrich> ls -la /etc/environment shows nothing
[01:33] <s0m0ne0utsdeTher> caz /etc/environment
[01:33] <ign0ramus> davidjheinrich, cat /etc/environment   doesnt show $PATHs
[01:33] <s0m0ne0utsdeTher> cat
[01:33] <s0m0ne0utsdeTher> anal again^ :-9
[01:33] <Telengard> ^porn
[01:33] <davidjheinrich> yep, that shows some of them, but not all...shows nothing in /home/user/bin
[01:34] <Telengard> :P
[01:34] <s0m0ne0utsdeTher> me is ^porn? :-9
[01:34] <ign0ramus> davidjheinrich, maybe then they're not being pulled from there then.  i know $PATHs are listed there... d
[01:35] <davidjheinrich> I've read ppl say to put hem in ~/.bashrc , /etc/bash.bashrc , and now /etc/environment ...where should they go
[01:35] <davidjheinrich> ?
[01:35] <ign0ramus> davidjheinrich, i've also seen ~/.bashrc, but as none are there by default, it doesn't seem optimal to me :/
[01:35] <Telengard> davidjheinrich : If you want the program to be available to all users, then you have to add the /opt directory to the $PATH in a system-wide config script. Thus, /etc/profile is probably a good choice
[01:36] <s0m0ne0utsdeTher> ign0ramus: /etc/profile* ?
[01:36] <davidjheinrich> Tele, ign0, what's he pro/con of specifying $PATH in /etc/profile vs. /etc/environment ?
[01:37] <Telengard> s0m0ne0utsdeTher : Yeah, looks good to me  :)
[01:37] <ign0ramus> davidjheinrich, i honestly don't know... but /etc/profile may have some clues
[01:37] <Telengard> davidjheinrich : I don't know anything about /etc/environment. That's why I'd look at /etc/profile
[01:38] <s0m0ne0utsdeTher> davidjheinrich: /etc/profile is lsd (linux standard base)
[01:38] <davidjheinrich> huh? what does linux standard base mean?
[01:38] <ign0ramus> davidjheinrich, Telengard, s0m0ne0utsdeTher: maybe this? http://sahasranaman.com/2008/02/05/path-variable-in-ubuntu/
[01:38] <Telengard> s0m0ne0utsdeTher : Enlighten us  :)
[01:39] <s0m0ne0utsdeTher> it's something that should be implemented at every distro that follows lsd. so, suse and mandriva should have a /etc/profile too.
[01:39] <davidjheinrich> ahhh
[01:40] <davidjheinrich> although ~/.bashrc seems nice, as I can re-install the system while keeping my custom settings
[01:40] <s0m0ne0utsdeTher> sUse has a /etc/envrionment too. maybe that's a false positive and both is valid. no idea
[01:41] <davidjheinrich> is there an lsd standard way to specify the $PATH at user level?
[01:41] <s0m0ne0utsdeTher> export PATH:$HOME/bin:$PATH
[01:41] <Telengard> davidjheinrich : ~/.profile
[01:41] <s0m0ne0utsdeTher> for the case $HOME is defined before :-9
[01:41] <davidjheinrich> ahhh, that's where I have it!
[01:42] <s0m0ne0utsdeTher> export PATH=... typo
[01:42] <Telengard> davidjheinrich : But that only applies to THAT user
[01:42] <s0m0ne0utsdeTher> Telengard: not if it's in /etc/profile
[01:43] <Telengard> s0m0ne0utsdeTher : Of course, but that's not what he said
[01:43] <s0m0ne0utsdeTher> right. my fault.
[01:43] <Telengard> s0m0ne0utsdeTher : Drink one for me  :P
[01:44] <s0m0ne0utsdeTher> Telengard: one for ya *too* ? :-9
[01:44] <Telengard> lol
[01:44] <davidjheinrich> what about for .exe files?
[01:44] <Telengard> davidjheinrich : They are usually Windows or DOS programs.
[01:44] <davidjheinrich> I mean, is there a place .exe files should go?
[01:44] <Telengard> davidjheinrich : They should go in Windows or DOS
[01:45] <s0m0ne0utsdeTher> or in wine ;)
[01:45] <ign0ramus> davidjheinrich, i would imagine your ~/.wine dir
[01:45] <davidjheinrich> I'm trying to install Sony's wcats and wdas programs (for CRT calibration) via Wine, but it seems like they open and then just close
[01:45] <Telengard> s0m0ne0utsdeTher : Good point  :)
[01:45] <s0m0ne0utsdeTher> Telengard: thanks and prost :-9
[01:45] <davidjheinrich> haha, well, no choice here...only way to calibrate Sony CRT's is via SOny's progs
[01:46] <Telengard> davidjheinrich : You could make a Windows XP live CD. It is possible.
[01:46] <s0m0ne0utsdeTher> or create a kvm image...
[01:46] <s0m0ne0utsdeTher> kvm+qemu
[01:47] <Telengard> s0m0ne0utsdeTher : Would that have direct access to his display hardware?
[01:47] <davidjheinrich> err, I don't want to screw around with partition to install Windows
[01:47] <s0m0ne0utsdeTher> Telengard: monitor and pci yes, or?
[01:47] <davidjheinrich> and the CD for Windows that I have is only for my laptop, not my desktop (which has the CRT)
[01:47]  * s0m0ne0utsdeTher is no sure there
[01:48] <Telengard> davidjheinrich : If you make a Windows XP live CD, then you don't have to install it. You just boot Windows from the CD, just like any Linux Live CD would  :)
[01:48] <davidjheinrich> how can I make a Windows live CD?
[01:49] <Telengard> I'm trying to remember how I did. It's been a few years
[01:49] <davidjheinrich> that sounds like something where figuring out he wine issue would be easier
[01:49] <s0m0ne0utsdeTher> davidjheinrich: sony... are you sure you really need the program? sony not supported by default in linux, is that realatistic?
[01:49] <Telengard> davidjheinrich : Bart's http://www.nu2.nu/pebuilder/
[01:50] <s0m0ne0utsdeTher> s/linux/xorg/ and realistic rather then realastic
[01:50] <ign0ramus> ^anal
[01:50] <s0m0ne0utsdeTher> ^anal too!
[01:50] <ign0ramus> :)
[01:50]  * Serpardum wonders what windows live cd has to do with kubuntu
[01:50] <s0m0ne0utsdeTher> :-9
[01:51] <Telengard> Serpardum : It's the only way he can configure his hardware for Linux  :(
[01:51] <ign0ramus> Serpardum, to run some propritary sony software that doesn't work in wine
[01:51] <ign0ramus> i still like the qemu route
[01:51] <Serpardum> why not then run windows in virtualbox
[01:51] <Serpardum> or qemu
[01:51] <Telengard> Serpardum : To configure hardware ?!? I don't think so!
[01:52] <davidjheinrich> s0m0one0outsideTher: my CRT is Sony GDM-F520...there is nothing comparable for a reasonable price for photo-editing (well, also hve T221, but haven't figured out how to get that working yet)
[01:53] <Telengard> davidjheinrich : Sorry to say, but Sony may have left you out in the cold as they say  :(
[01:53] <davidjheinrich> http://www.geocities.com/gregua/windas/
[01:53] <s0m0ne0utsdeTher> davidjheinrich: you need the sony program to adjust the color-profile?
[01:53] <davidjheinrich> it's supposed to be able to run under WINE
[01:53] <davidjheinrich> "Linux and Mac OS users should know that DAS can be run under the WINE emulator. "
[01:53] <davidjheinrich> no, not for adjusting the color profile, but internal CRT stuff..."lowering the monitor G2 value"
[01:54] <s0m0ne0utsdeTher> its a lcd? then it makes sense
[01:54] <davidjheinrich> no, it's a CRT
[01:54] <ign0ramus> davidjheinrich, haha! i was googling this issue and found *you*! http://ubuntu-virginia.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1155462
[01:54] <davidjheinrich> the prog needs a rs232<>ttl cable.
[01:54] <Telengard> davidjheinrich : It says it works under Wine  :D
[01:54] <s0m0ne0utsdeTher> s/lcd+lsd/crt
[01:55] <davidjheinrich> yea, that thread was b/c I had a bad xorg.conf (I some simple thing screwed up)_
[01:56] <ign0ramus> davidjheinrich, asking the obvious, but you don't have a windows partition to boot from?
[01:56] <davidjheinrich> I didn't ave "monitor-DVI-I_2/analog", but just "DVI-I_2/analog"
[01:56] <Telengard> *beerme*
[01:56] <davidjheinrich> nope
[01:56] <davidjheinrich> I did a fresh install of Wine
[01:56] <davidjheinrich> I mean of linux
[01:56] <davidjheinrich> lol
[01:56]  * ign0ramus passes out the drinks for everyone
[01:56] <davidjheinrich> the computer was custom built
[01:57] <s0m0ne0utsdeTher> davidjheinrich: you have a bad x.org configuration and try to fix that with a windows executable running wine?
[01:57]  * s0m0ne0utsdeTher really feels drunken now
[01:57] <davidjheinrich> haha, no, that is already fixed
[01:58] <davidjheinrich> my computer is basically working fine now
[01:58] <Telengard> I'm not following. Is the problem proprietary software, or is it bad xorg.conf?
[01:58] <davidjheinrich> xorg.conf is now fine
[01:58] <davidjheinrich> issue is windas / wincat installers don't open up
[01:59] <s0m0ne0utsdeTher> davidjheinrich: ^anal... why exactly you try to execute the win32 executable if everything works fine?
[01:59] <Telengard> davidjheinrich : All I can suggest is keep pursuing the problem until you find a solution that works for you. Then put up a web page or blog post about your solution so others can benefit.
[01:59] <togetic> Telengard: jaunty, 9.04
[01:59] <davidjheinrich> s0m0one: everything works fine for general use
[01:59] <togetic> sorry, gaim doesn't notify me like konversation does
[02:00] <davidjheinrich> s0m0one: but not necessarily for photo-proofing
[02:00] <davidjheinrich> s0m0one: I have spyder2 and argyll, but there are some things the can't do, and that are controlled internally by the CRT's hardware...wdas and wcats can access the CRT's stuff and mess with it
[02:01] <s0m0ne0utsdeTher> davidjheinrich: got it. I suggest to install photoshop in wine and run the color-adjustment
[02:01] <Cerrdor> does anyone know a app to record music from an auxillary ?
[02:01] <Telengard> togetic : I don't have any help for you, sorry. I suggest searching http://kubuntuforums.net
[02:01] <s0m0ne0utsdeTher> davidjheinrich: since that's (photoshop) what you like to use anyway, right?
[02:02] <davidjheinrich> nope, I'm fine with GIMP
[02:02] <Telengard> Cerrdor : Does Audacity work for you?
[02:02] <davidjheinrich> Photoshop costs more than my CRT...absurd
[02:02] <Cerrdor> dunno
[02:03] <Telengard> Cerrdor : sudo apt-get install audacity
[02:03] <Telengard> Cerrdor : http://audacity.sourceforge.net/
[02:04] <s0m0ne0utsdeTher> GIMP is 8bit. Are you sure you need the color-adjustment? Krita would make sense but GIMP?
[02:04] <Telengard> Last time I looked Krita didn't even come close to GIMP. And what do you mean "8-bit"?
[02:05] <davidjheinrich> um, Krita can't do a lot of photo-editing stuff...like heal
[02:05] <davidjheinrich> I have RawTherapee and digikam
[02:05] <davidjheinrich> for color
[02:05] <Telengard> Right, and GIMP has an enormous user base and tons of documentation.
[02:05] <s0m0ne0utsdeTher> 8-bit RGB
[02:06] <davidjheinrich> besides, my camera is 12-bit
[02:06] <davidjheinrich> (oly e-3)
[02:06] <s0m0ne0utsdeTher> color-profiles. Photosop and Krita support 16 (high-profile)#
[02:08] <s0m0ne0utsdeTher> davidjheinrich: well, photoshop has even more user base and documentation and if you are interested in color-adjustment then I believe you are interested in hoi
[02:08] <s0m0ne0utsdeTher> ...high-profile apps too.#
[02:09] <s0m0ne0utsdeTher> else, and that's the important point, you probably are fine with the linux-tools to adjust your monitor
[02:09] <Telengard> davidjheinrich : Just use whatever app works for you  :)
[02:11] <s0m0ne0utsdeTher> Telengard: sorry, I do study that and if you like to use high-profile then use photoshop else gimp is fine but then you don't need to adjust your monitor using a windows-app written by a "all you own belongs to us" sony.
[02:12] <davidjheinrich> I think GIMP is supposed to already have internal 32bit ops: "Important progress towards high bit-depth and non-destructive editing in GIMP has been made. Most color operations in GIMP are now ported to the powerful graph based image processing framework GEGL, meaning that the internal processing is being done in 32bit floating point linear light RGBA. By default the legacy 8bit code paths are still used, but a curious
[02:12] <davidjheinrich> user can turn on the use of GEGL for the color operations with Colors / Use GEGL. "
[02:13] <Telengard> s0m0ne0utsdeTher : That's nice. I already moved on  :)
[02:15] <markus____> how i can format a HDD in format NTFS from KUBUNTU??
[02:15] <s0m0ne0utsdeTher> Telengard: blender? :-9
[02:15] <markus____> how can I format a HDD in format NTFS from KUBUNTU??
[02:16] <s0m0ne0utsdeTher> Telengard: or even Maya?
[02:16] <ign0ramus> markus____, gparted
[02:16] <Zorael> Is there anything I can tweak if my mouseclicks take ~200ms to register? Video otherwise is snappy, but every popup/menu/window waits for those ~200ms before drawing. I've tried toying with double-click timing but that doesn't seem to be it.
[02:16] <markus____> but its other disk , is there any problem??
[02:17] <Telengard> Zorael : Get a faster computer
[02:17] <ign0ramus> markus____, shouldn't be. just make sure it's not mounted ;P
[02:17] <Zorael> Telengard: skadoosh! But really, if I force the menus with the keyboard, they popup instantaneously.
[02:18] <Telengard> Zorael : Probably something in xorg.conf. If I had any idea exactly what then I would probably be a wealthy man
[02:19] <s0m0ne0utsdeTher> davidjheinrich: I am only interested by the results. I would suggest to use Linux tools for the color-adjustment since they are "designed for x.org".
[02:19] <markus____> the problem is that i have two Kubuntu installed in two HDD diferent But i want to format one of my HDD to use it in NFTS, do you think that package can do it??
[02:20] <Telengard> ign0ramus : Why not QTParted?
[02:20] <ign0ramus> Telengard, iirc, that is deprecated
[02:20] <Dragnslcr> Telengard- qtparted hasn't been maintained for a few years
[02:21] <Dragnslcr> partitionmanager (yeah, I know, love the name) is the replacement
[02:21] <Telengard> Guess I'll be removing it then  :(
[02:21] <ign0ramus> markus____, are you trying to install windows on the secondary hdd?
[02:23] <markus____> yes i try but i can't install it
[02:23] <ign0ramus> markus____, maybe you're computer is trying to tell you something ;)
[02:24] <ign0ramus> markus____, can't you just switch master/slave to install windows?
[02:24] <markus____> i don't know but i need to foud what is the problem
[02:24] <markus____> you think it could be?
[02:25] <markus____> sorry the other word was "Found"
[02:25] <ign0ramus> markus____, haven't installed windows in a long time.  but that's a quick and easy way to check
[02:25] <Dragnslcr> markus____- last time I installed Windows, it could format disks by itself
[02:26] <Dragnslcr> You don't need to format a disk as NTFS before installing Windows
[02:27] <ign0ramus> Dragnslcr, can you install windows to a slave hdd?
[02:27] <markus____> i don't know , i'll try to change the order of the HDD to mastesr 1 from master 2
[02:27] <Dragnslcr> I think so, but it may still trash the boot sector on the master drive
[02:27] <ign0ramus> Dragnslcr, mbr will be screwed either way.  luckily that's an easy fix :)
[02:28] <Dragnslcr> Heh
[02:28] <Dragnslcr> Personally, I would completely disconnect the Ubuntu drive before installing Windows. That way you know Windows can't trash it
[02:28] <markus____> i will try
[02:28] <markus____> thanks
[02:28] <ign0ramus> I know Win7 is installable to a secondary HDD, but not sure about XP or Vista
[02:29] <ign0ramus> markus____, good luck
[02:29] <Dragnslcr> If the disks are SATA, there is no concept of master/slave
[02:29] <markus____> thanks
[02:29] <markus____> yeah is sata but 2nd master
[02:30] <ign0ramus> Dragnslcr, i actually didn't know that.  maybe time to upgrade some hardware... :)
[02:30] <markus____> maybe yes
[02:30] <Dragnslcr> SATA doesn't really have master and slave disks, just an order that the BIOS looks in for boot sectors
[02:30] <markus____> well i will try
[02:30] <markus____> thanks a lot
[02:31] <StormWinged> hi guys
[02:31] <Dragnslcr> SATA is just one drive per cable, too, where IDE had two
[02:31] <StormWinged> i have a very annoying problem
[02:32] <StormWinged> i run the live cd, i get my external drive mounted, but i cant mount my internal hdd
[02:32] <StormWinged> what i can do?
[02:32] <StormWinged> gparted seem it... but fdisl not
[02:32] <StormWinged> fdisk*
[02:32] <Dragnslcr> Does Dolphin list it?
[02:32] <StormWinged> no
[02:33] <Dragnslcr> Might need to mount it manually, though I don't remember needing to the last time I used the LiveCD
[02:33]  * Telengard goes to eat dinner
[02:33] <Telengard> bye
[02:34] <StormWinged> how to mount it manually if i dont have any points?
[02:34] <StormWinged> enjoy Telengard
[02:35] <Dragnslcr> You might be able to just do something like "sudo mount /dev/sda1 /path/to/mountpoint"
[02:36] <Dragnslcr> I'm not sure how well the filesystem type autodetection works
[02:36] <Dragnslcr> If it doesn't, you'd add "-t <fstype>"
[02:36] <StormWinged> okay
[02:36] <StormWinged> i`ll give a try
[03:03] <KDesk> hi
[03:04] <KDesk> I can not Use an ipod with Amarok 2.1 It only apears in the media applet, but nothing more. What can I do?
[03:20] <Kira_Light> weird. Froze on me. no response from keyboard... Anything other than a reboot to fix in case this happens again?
[03:25] <KDesk> Kira_Light: it happens sometimes to me, I think it is a freeze in the gpu, or something similar I have read
[03:25] <KDesk> Kira_Light: Which GPU do you have? Intel, Ati, nvidia, etc?
[03:29] <Kira_Light> KDesk: nvidia 9600
[03:30] <KDesk> Kira_Light:  Are you using propietary drivers, right?
[03:30] <Kira_Light> yes
[03:31] <KDesk> Mostly they are stable, but sometimes they are not and there is noting you or anybody can do to fix this, only nvidia con fix it. Try asking in there forums.
[03:31] <turbo_> if i was banned from ubuntu how do i get unbanned
[03:31] <turbo_> it was perma
[03:35] <turbo_> no1
[03:36] <gaelan> hello! could anyone tell me if there is a plain text file somewhere that configures the network interfaces?
[03:37] <gaelan> other than /etc/network/interfaces
[03:39] <robin0800> gaelan: Why?
[03:40] <gaelan> the network manager program on the task bar shows an "Auto eth0"
[03:40] <gaelan> however if i go into the actual network manager program to configure it, there are no wired ethernet connections
[03:40] <turbo_> k
[03:41] <robin0800> gaelan: yes whats wrong with that?
[03:41] <gaelan> i have a working wifi connection, however i'm trying to get my wired connection to work
[03:42] <gaelan> auto eth0 won't connect
[03:42] <gaelan> i need to give it a static ip
[03:42] <gaelan> i'm just a bit confused, as if there is a missing file somewhere that holds more info than i'm seeing
[03:43] <KDesk> gaelan: static ips with wire doesn't work ''yet'' with Networkmanager...
[03:43] <robin0800> gaelan: have you tried to configure it manually
[03:43] <gaelan> ahhh ok
[03:44] <KDesk> gaelan: you have to use dhcp.
[03:44] <gaelan> i'd like to configure it manually, but where would i do that?
[03:44] <KDesk> or WICD
[03:44] <gaelan> hm, should i saw a guide for uninstalling the network manager and just using the text file at /etc/network/interfaces... would that be my best bet?
[03:45] <KDesk> You have to disable or remove NM to do this. But try to install WICD, it is like NM but it work sometimes better. It that doesn't work or you don't want it. Then remove NM and do it by /etc/network/interfaces.
[03:45] <gaelan> ok, great, so WICD is another program? hadn't heard of it, i'll go do a search
[03:46] <KDesk> gaelan: it works nice. It has also a GUI.
[03:46] <turbo_> wicd works nicely for me when other things dont  just btw
[03:47] <gaelan> great, thanks a bunch guys, i found it, installing now
[03:47] <turbo_> anyone know how to get unbanned from ubuntu, anyone an operator there or know the nick of one
[03:48] <KDesk> turbo_: how from ubuntu? launchpad?
[03:49] <robin0800> turbo_: you could try #ubuntu+1
[03:49] <turbo_> what u mean how? how did i get banned? i was asking a mint question in ubuntu and they banned my ip out of the blue
[03:49] <turbo_> is that just an overflow like another ubuntu
[03:50] <robin0800> turbo_: no its for 9.10
[03:50] <KDesk> turbo_: ah, no, my english is bad, I mean, where. In ubunut forums?
[03:50] <turbo_> oh no, #ubuntu
[03:51] <KDesk> aah
[03:52] <KDesk> turbo_: Hmm, I don't know how to call a moderator, but if no body comes, you can open a bug in launchpad I think.
[03:52] <KDesk> !bot
[03:53] <turbo_> hm, well i mean its not a bug, i just didnt agree with a moderator and they banned me
[03:55] <cuznt> an email asking for forgiveness work
[03:56] <turbo_> who do i ask? i doont remember who it was
[03:56] <cuznt> s
[03:56] <cuznt> !Info
[03:56] <cuznt> !contact
[03:56] <cuznt> ?
[03:59] <turbo_> hey anyone get intel integrated graphics working
[04:01] <turbo_> let me in to ubuntu
[04:10] <KDesk> turbo_: I have an 865G and it works better :)
[04:11] <turbo_> haha whats an 865g
[04:11] <KDesk> I have installed xserver-xorg-video-intel 2.7.1, it was better than 2.6.3, but now with 2.7.99 (2.8 rc) it works better.
[04:11] <turbo_> i think i have like 940 950be i have no iidea haha
[04:12] <KDesk> turbo_: it is the name of the graphics card :) look with lspci if you are interested.
[04:12] <KDesk> or you can downgrade to the old stable 2.4 version
[04:13] <turbo_>  Display controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS/GME, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
[04:13] <KDesk> turbo_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReinhardTartler/X/RevertingIntelDriverTo2.4
[04:13] <turbo_> how can i get info on my driver?
[04:22] <KDesk> turbo_: which info? the version? in intrepid it is 2.4, in jaunty it is 2.6.
[04:31] <fede> hola
[04:31] <fede> alguien por aqui
[04:31] <fede> ¿?
[04:32] <fede> que es mejor ubuntu o kubuntu¿?
[04:34] <Serpardum> !se
[04:34] <Serpardum> er, wrong one
[04:34] <Serpardum> !es
[04:35] <fede> thanks you
[04:35] <Serpardum> de nada
[04:37] <xso232> has anyone figured out yet how to fix the DPI issue in KDE default install?
[04:43] <mubu> Hey guys, how should i install the server kernel to see more than 3.2 GB of ram in ubuntu 9.04 32 bit? thanks
[04:44] <xso232> I dont think any 32 bit operating system supports more then that
[04:56] <KDesk> mubu: you can use more than 4gb with a 32 os, using pae.
[04:57] <mubu> KDesk, meaning i need the server kernel?
[04:57] <KDesk> mubu, I think not necesarily.
[04:58] <KDesk> mubu: you can try, also with a 64 bit kernel.
[04:58] <mubu> mmm would prefer 32 bit for now..
[05:00] <ik> DAYCHANGE!
[05:00] <KDesk> mubu, take a look here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=855511
[05:01] <mubu> kdesk, thanks. i was just reading that thread
[05:01] <KDesk> hehe :)
[05:14] <gabriel__> hi all I'm running Kubuntu 9.04 on an acer laptop,  I tried to play media and it tried to install codecs when I was not online.  now it thinks they are already installed what can I do?
[05:19] <gabriel__> hello?
[05:19] <gabriel__> anyone here?
[05:20] <ahmad-> hi gabriel__
[05:20] <kenitoos> can anyone help me on some monitor settings
[05:20] <gabriel__> hi ahmad how are you?  can u answer questions?
[05:21] <gabriel__> perhaps kenitoos
[05:21] <ahmad-> if i know i will
[05:21] <kenitoos> my labtop monitor is cracked, using a desktop monitor as replacement but screen still blacks out then comes alot unable stay in KDE desktopany ideas on how to get this fixed right
[05:21] <gabriel__> well I'm trying to play media and it tells me I need stuff installed.  then I try to install it and it ways it's already installed
[05:22] <ahmad-> what stuff ?
[05:22] <gabriel__> *says
[05:22] <gabriel__> hold on...
[05:25] <gabriel__> says dragon player reccomends installing....then I get an icon loooks like a gear with a blue triangle in the taskbar so I click it it says select packages to be installed MP3 encoding and tag reading, dvd Reading, video codecs, flash, and MPEG plugins.
[05:26] <gabriel__> I click install and it tells me that packages are already installed and that I need to restart dragon player.
[05:26] <gabriel__> NO dragon player running, no dragon player processes
[05:27] <ahmad-> r u trying to play .mp3 file ?
[05:28] <gabriel__> no it's a flash file
[05:28] <gabriel__> hi ubuntu
[05:29] <gabriel__> maybe I'll just apt-get the stuff
[05:29] <gabriel__> what is floodbot kill?
[05:32] <gabriel__> sudo apt-get check
[05:32] <gabriel__> oopse LOL wrong window!!
[05:40] <mubu> Hey guys, how can i run a certain sudo command (wondershaper, to throttle and unthrottle a NIC) at  a specific time, only once, not every day or week, etc? thanks
[05:59] <kenitoos> does anyone know how to fix some monitor issues
[06:08] <SilentDis> i'm having a bit of an odd issue.  my usb bus crashes, and any attempts to restart it fail.  I have a keyboard and a USB headset attached to it.  I have to reboot the machine, from the power switch, because i have no keyboard access.
[06:08] <SilentDis> i've tried sshing into the machine, killing alsa and such (usb headset and all), but i can't get it to die, either.
[06:09] <SilentDis> !usb
[06:13] <SilentDis> looks like the only error i'm seeing in the system log is "timeout: still `x` active urbs..", where `x` is a number between 2 and 10
[06:13] <SilentDis> it's right at that point that usb dies :P
[06:47] <rohan> i am running akregator 1.4.4 from within gnome on ubuntu 9.04. all the feeds fetch correctly, but none have them have favicons. what should i do?
[06:58] <mubu> Hi guys I just fixed my sudoers file. Can anyone help me out so that any user can use the "sudo wondershaper" command without being asked for a password? Thanks
[07:38] <korneliorogelio> hello, how do i configure samba in kde?
[08:00] <phoenix_1> bonjour
[09:47] <laslavic> Hello. When I try to print, a blank page comes out and it switches to "Stopped." Any ideas?
[09:50] <Mamarok> laslavic: did it work before?
[09:53] <laslavic> Mamarok: Yes
[09:53] <laslavic> Mamarok: I reinstalled 9.04 just now, and it does not.
[09:53] <Mamarok> laslavic: oh, then you  need to install the printer again I think
[09:54] <laslavic> Mamarok: No no. It's a complete reinstall. From scratch.
[09:54] <Mamarok> laslavic: yes, and you need to configure the printer :)
[09:54] <laslavic> Mamarok: Yes, and I did.
[09:54] <laslavic> Mamarok: See, it prints a blank page and then switched the status for the job to "Stopped."
[09:55] <Mamarok> laslavic: did you print a test page when you installed?
[09:55] <laslavic> Mamarok: No. Should that matter?
[09:56] <Mamarok> laslavic: well, you would see if it actually works, yes
[09:56] <Mamarok> I always print the test page after installing a printer
[09:56] <Mamarok> just to be sure the driver really is the right one
[10:00] <laslavic> Mamarok: Lol, so I went to the printer config to see if it would printer a test page...
[10:01] <laslavic> The printer actually printed the page...
[10:01] <laslavic> ...but you know how the dialog that says "Printing test page! Click okay" appears?
[10:01] <laslavic> Everything but the mouse was unresponsive.
[10:02] <laslavic> So in other words, it froze (Except the mouse).
[10:02] <laslavic> But it was printing the test page just fine.
[10:04] <Mamarok> laslavic: you did install that printer through the systemsettings, right?
[10:20] <Joschi> hi
[10:21] <jussi01> hi Joschi
[10:25] <snake> hey .. can i use kopete for msn video chat?
[10:27] <snake> ??
[10:28] <benz> is anyone here?
[10:29] <snake> anyone here?
[10:29] <snake> please help
[10:30] <snake> :(
[10:31] <benz> :(
[10:35] <Mamarok> snake: I don't know, sorry
[10:35] <Mamarok> !ask | benz
[10:43] <mario_> ciao
[11:03] <zzillezz> hello, if i add the backports ppa to update to kde 4.3 beta, will this screw up my nvidia driver installation ?
[11:53] <alarm> hello there.
[11:54] <drurew> alarm:hello
[11:54] <alarm> my PrtScreen buttong seems not to work under kubuntu. so the only way to take snapshots of my desktop is with ksnapshot
[11:54] <alarm> any idea if i have to set it somewhere as a hotkey ?
[11:55] <drurew> alarm: you can edit the "universal" shortcut keys under system settings
[11:55] <alarm> there is nothing for print screen
[11:56] <alarm> hmm hold on i think i found something
[11:56] <alarm> yeap found , thank you
[11:56] <drurew> :)
[11:57] <bdgraue> alarm: can you tell me what you found out?
[11:57] <alarm> second question. how can i make kubuntu when mounting some external hdd , to mount it only in read mode ?
[11:57] <bdgraue> same here :)
[11:58] <alarm> Global Keyboard settings: -> Kwin -> Desktop Screenshot to clipboard
[11:58] <drurew> alarm: youll have to edit your /etc/fstab for that
[11:59] <alarm> na surely not
[11:59] <alarm> those things are not listed in the fstab
[12:00] <drurew> alarm: ls -la will print the permissions of the file , so ls -la (put device here) will give you the permissions for your external device
[12:00] <alarm> i dont want to see the permitions
[12:00] <alarm> i want to alter the permitions when mounted
[12:01] <drurew> alarm: well if its already in you fstab then you can just edit them from there
[12:01] <alarm> for example when i go to the dolphin file browser , and press on my 2nd partition to be mounted, this to be mounted only in read only
[12:01] <alarm> its not in the fstab. they are automounted by kde
[12:01] <alarm> and i dont know where
[12:03] <drurew> alarm: its not all that hard to add the device to your fstab, you will be able to (forever) define its mount permissions
[12:04] <drurew> man fstab will give you a hint
[12:04] <alarm> dude i know what fstab does. i was doing that some years ago when things werent automated
[12:04] <drurew> ;)
[12:04] <alarm> now, when i press on a partition is automaticaly automounted
[12:04] <alarm> without reading the fstab
[12:04] <alarm> its being handled by udev ? i have no idea
[12:05] <alarm> but it reads from somewhere else its permitions
[12:09] <drurew> alarm: changing your mount permissions is also available under the properties tab
[12:12] <alarm> where exactly ?
[12:13] <drurew> right click on the device
[12:13] <alarm> i cant. all i get when i click on the device is: "Unmount Storage"  and Hide Storage
[12:13] <alarm> nothing there with properties (in the dolphin file browser)
[12:13] <alarm> unless we are looking on two different places
[12:14] <drurew> you'll have to first use dolphin , /media/device, there you will be able to do it, if not sudo dolphin will definitely help you change your permissions
[12:15] <alarm> okie i will try that. but thats changing the directory permition not the mounting ones. anyway, i will give it a try :)
[12:15] <alarm> thank you
[12:16] <drurew> if you change them in fstab , then the device will always be mounted with the same rule
[12:16] <alarm> i am telling you again, there is no entry for that in the fstab...
[12:16] <zer0o> hi guys, what email do you use? looking for something safe and useful
[12:17] <alarm> its being handled by some other service
[12:17] <drurew> alright alright ...have fun alarm ;)
[12:17] <alarm> zer0o,  email service or email application ?
[12:17] <zer0o> email service, like webmails
[12:17] <alarm> gmail ?
[12:18] <zer0o> gmail? safe?????
[12:18] <zer0o> o_O
[12:18] <zer0o> u kiddin me :D
[12:18] <alarm> fast allows you to use external clients
[12:18] <alarm> huge storage
[12:18] <alarm> why whats wrong with googles privacy ?
[12:18] <zer0o> LOL
[12:19] <zer0o> google is the evil, they keep track about everything u search, can u figure out what they do with ur mails?
[12:19] <zer0o> :D
[12:19] <alarm> why ? can you find  out what microsoft and hotmail do with your email ?
[12:20] <drurew> hahahaha
[12:20] <alarm> dude, if you are unsutisfied with online services create your own mail server
[12:20] <drurew> i did it
[12:20] <drurew> please enjoy
[12:20] <darf> i just go ubuntu today and wow im amazed how azwesome i havent used linux since redhat in 1997
[12:21] <alarm> darf,  year, i remember back in 1948 , a bit after the WW2 , the kde interface was crap. but now things became better :)
[12:21] <darf> haha
[12:21] <darf> xwin was so hard to mess with back then
[12:21] <zer0o> never had or thought to have a microsoft or hotmail account...
[12:22] <darf> i see connection reset by peer is still people doin attacks?
[12:24] <alarm> zer0o, than go for yahoo and stop asking
[12:25] <zer0o> yahoo? -_-
[12:25] <alarm> its for free anyway, nobody asked you to pay it
[12:25] <alarm> or forced you
[12:25] <zer0o> whatz the difference?
[12:25] <alarm> go and check
[12:25] <zer0o> and u never asked yourself why?
[12:25] <alarm> ITS FREE !!!
[12:25] <zer0o> gmail is free
[12:25] <zer0o> hotmail is free
[12:25] <Mamarok> alarm: do not shout, please!
[12:25] <zer0o> they're all free
[12:25] <alarm> ok i give up
[12:25] <zer0o> that doesnt mean their safe
[12:25] <Mamarok> zer0o: and you stop bashing
[12:25] <zer0o> actually the opposite
[12:26] <drurew> zer0o i found something for that , i think its called firegpg
[12:26] <drurew> allows you to encrypt via your firefox browser, usefull for web mail
[12:26] <Mamarok> well, this is a support chennle, discussion should go to #kubuntu-offtopic, so please...
[12:27] <drurew> hi Mamarok
[12:27] <Mamarok> hi drurew
[12:27] <Mamarok> zer0o: the default email application is kmail in 9.04
[12:27] <Mamarok> alarm: please do not recommend third party stuff
[12:28] <zer0o> drurew: yes i know about that but my recipients have to have it too
[12:28] <alarm> k
[12:28] <drurew> !firegpg
[12:28] <Mamarok> !factoid | drurew
[12:29] <Mamarok> drurew: serach the database first, spares you time :)
[12:29] <Mamarok> drurew: and same than for everything, do not recommend third party apps
[12:30] <drurew> firefox is opensource, as well as firegpg
[12:30] <Mamarok> zer0o: if you use gpg, it can be read with openPgP anyway
[12:30] <drurew> firegpg allows you to sign your mail even when the option isnt supported by your mail provider
[12:30] <Mamarok> they all use the same protocol
[12:31] <Mamarok> which is openpgpg
[12:31] <drurew> yes
[12:31] <drurew> the key
[12:31] <drurew> :)
[12:32] <zer0o> alright but, for example what email serivices do u use?
[12:32] <drurew> zer0o: tels go to "offtopic"
[12:32] <Mamarok> drurew: and firegpg is just a firefox addon, you can't use it in all browsers
[12:38] <A2C2A> when I do "apt-get remove openoffice*" tons of gnome packages are pulled in. why is that? can I prevent it?
[12:41] <Mamarok> A2C2A: pulled in when you remove?
[12:41] <Mamarok> or rather removed you mean?
[12:42] <A2C2A> Mamarok: pulled in when I issue the remove/purge command, yes
[12:42] <A2C2A> "the following NEW packages will be installed" ... etc.
[12:42] <leonardo> hi!
[12:43] <shadeslayer> leonardo: hey!!
[12:43] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: more problems with 4.3 ??
[12:43] <Mamarok> shadeslayer: what are you talking about?
[12:43] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: im asking if anyone else had problems upgrading?
[12:43] <Mamarok> A2C2A: that is weird...
[12:44] <Mamarok> shadeslayer: not AFAIK
[12:44] <shadeslayer> k
[12:44] <Mamarok> A2C2A: let me check...
[12:46] <Mamarok> A2C2A: I don't see that here, try the following command: sudo apt-get remove openoffice.org
[12:47] <A2C2A> Mamarok: "package not installed"
[12:47] <Mamarok> A2C2A: hm, try again with openoffice.org-*
[12:47] <A2C2A> Mamarok: then I get the same as before.
[12:48] <A2C2A> Mamarok: it seems to be language related packages which causes this btw. it's whenever openoffice.org-help-en-gb and similar packages are removed that the gnome packages are pulled in
[12:49] <Laeborg> anybody here there use kopete and the wlm plugin ?
[12:49] <Mamarok> A2C2A: you should report that in #ubuntu
[12:49] <A2C2A> Mamarok: ok, thanks
[12:50] <Mamarok> Laeborg: what plugin is this?
[12:50] <waltzingalong> windows live messenger
[12:50] <Laeborg> windows live messenger
[12:51] <Mamarok> oh, then I can't help, sorry
[12:54] <Laeborg> Okay well, I have a problem. When I move my msn contacts into a group it doesnt get reported back and I need to do it next time I sign in again.
[12:55] <Laeborg> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=188281 - The same problem as him
[12:57] <sil3nt|warri0r> hello folks, today i am having a strange prob with my kde 4.2.4 which i never seen before
[12:57] <sil3nt|warri0r> i badly need help :(
[12:58] <Mamarok> !ask + sil3nt|warri0r
[12:58] <Mamarok> sry
[12:58] <Mamarok> !ask | sil3nt|warri0r
[12:59] <Mamarok> there you go :)
[13:01] <sil3nt|warri0r> plz look at this http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/8554/mydesktopnow.jpg
[13:01] <sil3nt|warri0r> :(
[13:01] <sil3nt|warri0r> where the destop gone ?
[13:02] <Mamarok> sil3nt|warri0r: you have a wallpaer that plasma can't find, that's all :)
[13:03] <Mamarok> sil3nt|warri0r: right click on the desktop and select another wallpaper :)
[13:03] <sil3nt|warri0r> no it not like that
[13:03] <waltzingalong> unless your wallpaper is the checkerboard
[13:03] <sil3nt|warri0r> the whole plasma is gone
[13:03] <Mamarok> the checkers just means that you have no wallpaper and transparency enabled
[13:03] <sil3nt|warri0r> i even i cant right click on the desktop
[13:03] <sil3nt|warri0r> its not working :(
[13:03] <Mamarok> sil3nt|warri0r: well, your panel is still there, hence plasma is there too
[13:04] <Mamarok> sil3nt|warri0r: but if you insist, you can just kill plasma and it will restart itself
[13:04] <sil3nt|warri0r> see the below panel, the system tray has no icons showing
[13:04] <sil3nt|warri0r> but the icons should be there
[13:04] <emmmy> how are you guys getting to like kubuntu these days?
[13:05] <Mamarok> sil3nt|warri0r: you mean the plasma widgets?
[13:05] <sil3nt|warri0r> i rebooted one/three times for fixing this prob, no luck
[13:05] <Mamarok> emmmy: that's not a support question...
[13:05] <sil3nt|warri0r> Mamarok: yes
[13:05] <Mamarok> emmmy: for discussion, go to #kubuntu-offtopic please
[13:05] <Mamarok> sil3nt|warri0r: please, right click on your desktop, at least try it :)
[13:05] <emmmy> I already went there, you should be there too.
[13:06] <Mamarok> emmmy: please, not here...
[13:06] <emmmy> Mamarok: Yes please take it to #kubuntu-offtopic. This is the last time I'm going to ask you.
[13:06] <sil3nt|warri0r> Mamarok: my frnd, i have tried it plenty of times, no luck, still i am trying
[13:07] <sil3nt|warri0r> dont know why this happens,
[13:10] <MetaMorfoziS> !icons
[13:11] <Mamarok> sil3nt|warri0r: can you open a console?
[13:11] <mandebist> Русские есть?
[13:12] <sil3nt|warri0r> Mamarok: yes
[13:12] <wuwei> hi all
[13:13] <wuwei> who can develop game server ?
[13:13] <Mamarok> wuwei: wrong channel I thing, we do support for Kubuntu here :)
[13:14] <drurew> wuwei: ask in ubuntu-server
[13:18] <Mamarok> sil3nt|warri0r: did the right click do something for you?
[13:20] <sil3nt|warri0r> no
[13:20] <sil3nt|warri0r> i cant right click on the current desktop (not a desktop at all)
[13:20] <Mamarok> sil3nt|warri0r: then kill plasma in the console
[13:20] <sil3nt|warri0r> i cant even drag n drop any thing to this
[13:21] <sil3nt|warri0r> is there any possibility that for an update this actually happened
[13:21] <sil3nt|warri0r> i dont know, just gussing
[13:22] <Mamarok> sil3nt|warri0r: I don't know, what did you update?
[13:22] <sil3nt|warri0r> yesterday, i installed sun-virtualbox
[13:22] <sil3nt|warri0r> what ever the repositories suggest (but not pre-releases
[13:23] <Mamarok> sil3nt|warri0r: don't think this is the problem, just try killing plasma in a console and report back
[13:23] <sil3nt|warri0r> how
[13:23] <Mamarok> type kill plasma in a console :)
[13:23] <sil3nt|warri0r> k
[13:24] <drurew> or ctrl + alt + esc then kill plasma
[13:24] <Mamarok> drurew: no!
[13:24] <sil3nt|warri0r> bash: kill: plasma: arguments must be process or job IDs
[13:24] <sil3nt|warri0r> will i do killall plasma
[13:24] <sil3nt|warri0r> ?
[13:25] <Mamarok> sil3nt|warri0r: yes, try that, sry, my bad
[13:25] <sil3nt|warri0r> 3659 20.3  2.6 408164 97308 ?        Sl   17:16   7:38 kdeinit4: plasma [kdeinit]
[13:25] <sil3nt|warri0r> after i did ps aux i get this
[13:26] <Mamarok> sil3nt|warri0r: killall plasma
[13:26] <sil3nt|warri0r> so plasma is running with the pid 3659
[13:26] <Mamarok> sil3nt|warri0r: read what I just said please...
[13:26] <sil3nt|warri0r> i think the wallpapper plugin or the dektop plugin for plasma somehow messed up
[13:26] <sil3nt|warri0r> k
[13:26] <sil3nt|warri0r> doing
[13:27] <sil3nt|warri0r> k, all panels are gone
[13:27] <Mamarok> sil3nt|warri0r: does it restart?
[13:28] <sil3nt|warri0r> no
[13:28] <sil3nt|warri0r> not yet
[13:28] <Mamarok> sil3nt|warri0r: then restart it with Ctrl+F2 enter: plasma.desktop
[13:29] <sil3nt|warri0r> ?
[13:29] <sil3nt|warri0r> ctrl+f2 in not working
[13:29] <sil3nt|warri0r> is it alt+f2
[13:29] <Mamarok> sil3nt|warri0r: then type plsma.desktop in the console
[13:29] <sil3nt|warri0r> ?
[13:30] <Mamarok> right, sorry, my bad
[13:30] <sil3nt|warri0r> bash: plasma.desktop: command not found
[13:30] <waltzingalong> plasma-desktop ?
[13:30] <Mamarok> I am doing too many things at the same time :/
[13:30] <frankS2> no
[13:30] <frankS2> just plasma
[13:30] <sil3nt|warri0r> k
[13:30] <sil3nt|warri0r> just plasma
[13:31] <frankS2> yea, KDe beeing a bit buggy
[13:31] <frankS2> bugs are getting worked on?
[13:31] <frankS2> its mainly my panels
[13:31] <sil3nt|warri0r> QCoreApplication::postEvent: Unexpected null receiver
[13:31] <sil3nt|warri0r> QCoreApplication::postEvent: Unexpected null receiver
[13:31] <sil3nt|warri0r> QCoreApplication::postEvent: Unexpected null receiver
[13:31] <sil3nt|warri0r> QCoreApplication::postEvent: Unexpected null receiver
[13:31] <sil3nt|warri0r> QCoreApplication::postEvent: Unexpected null receiver
[13:31] <FloodBotK1> sil3nt|warri0r: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:31] <FloodBotK2> sil3nt|warri0r: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:31] <ivo> is er iemand nederlands
[13:32] <Mamarok> !nl | ivo
[13:32] <sil3nt|warri0r> sorry, really
[13:32] <sil3nt|warri0r> :(
[13:32] <sil3nt|warri0r> anyways, plasma restarts, but still the same desktop (not a desktop actually)
[13:32] <ivo> wie wil er met mij praten
[13:33] <Mamarok> ivo: please, no query, go to #ubuntu-nl
[13:33] <ivo> shtml#nicksetup
[13:33] <ivo> ik ga al
[13:34] <ivo> wat is er dan
[13:34] <Mamarok> ivo, English, please!!!
[13:34] <Mamarok> !nl > ivo
[13:35] <Mamarok> sil3nt|warri0r: is your usuall wallpaper the default one?
[13:35] <sil3nt|warri0r> http://pastebin.com/m49aae3c1
[13:35] <sil3nt|warri0r> no, not the default one
[13:36] <Mamarok> sil3nt|warri0r: the command should be plasma.desktop IMHO, not plasma
[13:37] <MetaMorfoziS> Hi all
[13:37] <ivo> hai
[13:38] <MetaMorfoziS> How can i enable icons on kde4 desktop?
[13:38] <MetaMorfoziS> I mean in the classic way
[13:38] <sil3nt|warri0r> but, there is no plasma.desktop cmd
[13:38] <ivo> no
[13:38] <Mamarok> MetaMorfoziS: with the folder widget, set it to the desktop folder in your /home
[13:39] <sil3nt|warri0r> one thing i just saw, my kde version is 4.2.4, but the libplasma3 is 4:4.2.90ubuntu~jaunty
[13:39] <Mamarok> sil3nt|warri0r: well, that means you have a mixup of KDE 4.2.4 and 4.3 beta 2, how did you do that?
[13:39] <sil3nt|warri0r> it should be 4.2.4, right ?
[13:39] <MetaMorfoziS> Mamarok: lol, the folder /home/meta/Desktop isn't exists it says
[13:39] <MetaMorfoziS> by the way i want simple icons, not as a widget
[13:39] <sil3nt|warri0r> i really dont know, i never update that
[13:40] <sil3nt|warri0r> so what should i do
[13:40] <sil3nt|warri0r> :(
[13:40] <sil3nt|warri0r> do i remove the this 4.2.9 pkg first ?
[13:40] <Mamarok> sil3nt|warri0r: you must have added some PPA repos that you shouldn't have, it doesn't change itself to 4.2.90...
[13:41] <sil3nt|warri0r> yes, the backports> kubuntu ppa was enabled in the repositories , but yesterday i did disabled it
[13:41] <sil3nt|warri0r> :(
[13:42] <Mamarok> sil3nt|warri0r: 4.3.90 is not in the backports PPA...
[13:42] <Mamarok> sil3nt|warri0r: please send me your /etc/apt/sources.list in a pastebin
[13:43] <sil3nt|warri0r> k
[13:44] <sil3nt|warri0r> plz take look at this http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/6628/kubunturepos.jpg
[13:45] <Mamarok> sil3nt|warri0r: the text file in a pastebin, not a screenshot...
[13:46] <sil3nt|warri0r> k
[13:46] <Mamarok> sil3nt|warri0r: also, you have third party PPAs that are not a good idea... I am pretty sure that's where it comes from
[13:48] <sil3nt|warri0r> hmm
[13:49] <sil3nt|warri0r> plz tell me which i should enable/disable
[13:49] <sil3nt|warri0r> my desktop really messed up
[13:50] <Mamarok> the plasmoid PPA I would say, and don't install third party widgets you are not sure about
[13:50] <Mamarok> sil3nt|warri0r: but first, remove the stuff from that repo
[13:51] <sil3nt|warri0r> which stuff ?
[13:51] <sil3nt|warri0r> the libplasma3 ?
[13:51] <Mamarok> well, purge them would be even better, so all configuration are gone too
[13:51] <Mamarok> the widgets you installed from that plsmoid PPA you have in your surces
[13:51] <Mamarok> sources* even
[13:52] <Mamarok> sil3nt|warri0r: I don't know what it installed, just get rid the packages from that source
[13:52] <Mamarok> +of
[13:52] <sil3nt|warri0r> http://pastebin.com/m440ff20f
[13:52] <sil3nt|warri0r> the sources
[13:53] <Mamarok> sil3nt|warri0r: read what I said above, remove the packages from that source
[13:53] <sil3nt|warri0r> hmm
[13:53] <Mamarok> sil3nt|warri0r: and the paste you sent is empty...
[13:53] <sil3nt|warri0r> ???
[13:54] <sil3nt|warri0r> http://pastebin.com/m440ff20f
[13:54] <sil3nt|warri0r> its showing in the browser
[13:54] <sil3nt|warri0r> it ok
[13:54] <Mamarok> oh, now I get it, sry
[13:57] <sil3nt|warri0r> k
[13:59] <Mamarok> sil3nt|warri0r: if you purge all the packages from that plasmoid PPA source, it might show you some residual packages not needed anymore, you can auto-rmove those then
[14:00] <sil3nt|warri0r> k
[14:00] <sil3nt|warri0r> can u plz tell me how will i purge those pkgs from that plasmoid ?
[14:03] <Mamarok> sil3nt|warri0r: what package manager do you use?
[14:04] <MetaMorfoziS> So there are icons on the desktop: http://thebeezspeaks.blogspot.com/2008/06/how-to-create-desktop-icons-in-kde4.html but i don'T know how to do that now
[14:04] <MetaMorfoziS> so if anybody can, please tell me how can i get back the old icons to the desktop
[14:05] <Mamarok> MetaMorfoziS: you can modify the settings of the folder widget
[14:05] <sil3nt|warri0r> syneptic/ kpkg both
[14:05] <sil3nt|warri0r> its look like the kdelibs also 4.2.9 installed :(
[14:06] <MetaMorfoziS> but can't get the same as this
[14:06] <sil3nt|warri0r> i dont think i can revert back
[14:06] <sil3nt|warri0r> :(
[14:06] <Mamarok> sil3nt|warri0r: use synaptic, it allows you to check from the origin
[14:06] <sil3nt|warri0r> ^i cant revert back
[14:07] <sil3nt|warri0r> how do i do that, plz tell me
[14:07] <sil3nt|warri0r> how do i reinstalled the 4.2.4
[14:07] <Mamarok> sil3nt|warri0r: open synaptic first, then I'll tell you :)
[14:07] <sil3nt|warri0r> its open
[14:08] <Mamarok> MetaMorfoziS: that blog post is far too old and doesn't give you any instructions, just forget that
[14:08] <MetaMorfoziS> yup, i have found this at now: http://aseigo.blogspot.com/2008/05/no-more-desktop-icons-in-41.html , i'm just reading
[14:09] <MetaMorfoziS> maybe i don't need classic icons...
[14:09] <MetaMorfoziS> :)
[14:09] <Mamarok> sil3nt|warri0r: on the lower left, there is a button that says origin
[14:09] <Mamarok> MetaMorfoziS: that is even older...
[14:09] <MetaMorfoziS> then please tell me a new one
[14:09] <sil3nt|warri0r> Mamarok: yes
[14:10] <Mamarok> MetaMorfoziS: well, go to your desktop, the folder widget is already there :)
[14:10] <MetaMorfoziS> i know
[14:10] <MetaMorfoziS> i'm just thinking on it's usability...
[14:10] <MetaMorfoziS> so how would i use it, etc
[14:10] <Mamarok> sil3nt|warri0r: click on it and go to the line that has PPA in it
[14:11] <Mamarok> MetaMorfoziS: patience, can't do everything at the same time...
[14:11] <MetaMorfoziS> yup
[14:11] <MetaMorfoziS> atm i'm waiting for my kernel to compile, this is my smallest problem...
[14:11] <MetaMorfoziS> i have flickering and/or crashing and/or slow xorg atm
[14:11] <MetaMorfoziS> on eee 1000h
[14:11] <sil3nt|warri0r> Mamarok: two lines there, ppa.launchedpad.net/main and universe
[14:12] <Mamarok> sil3nt|warri0r: main
[14:12] <kriox> hi..
[14:12] <MetaMorfoziS> btw if anybody here with same issues and maybe solutions, then tell me what you know:)
[14:12] <Mamarok> hi kriox
[14:12] <sil3nt|warri0r> k, now i can see the pkgs that installed through this repo
[14:12] <sil3nt|warri0r> :)
[14:13] <sil3nt|warri0r> kdelibs5, kdelibs5-data, kdelibs-bin
[14:13] <kriox> i have to install a adobe flash.. i download the pacage.deb i try whit a double click on it but it do not work.
[14:13] <sil3nt|warri0r> but if i remove them i cant access kde anymore :( untill reinstall the kdelibs
[14:14] <kriox> somebody can remember me how i can install by terminal command?
[14:14] <Mamarok> sil3nt|warri0r: if you have synaptic, do you also have a gnome desktop?
[14:14] <kriox> hi mamarok
[14:14] <kriox> how are you?
[14:14] <Mamarok> kriox: in konsole, type sudo dpkg -i packagename.deb
[14:14] <MetaMorfoziS> kriox: sudo apt-get install <something> ?
[14:14] <MetaMorfoziS> yup
[14:14] <sil3nt|warri0r> no
[14:16] <Mamarok> sil3nt|warri0r: hm, that will be tricky then...
[14:16] <sil3nt|warri0r> :(
[14:17] <kriox> Mamarok: ok seems it's work
[14:17] <MetaMorfoziS> by the way if anybody intrested, i have found the solution to get classic icons... Right click on desktop, desktop settings, type->folder view
[14:18] <Mamarok> sil3nt|warri0r: would you have enough space for it?
[14:18] <sil3nt|warri0r> for gnome ?
[14:19] <sil3nt|warri0r> no
[14:20] <sil3nt|warri0r> there is another option left, i have to go ahead, means do all the updated to 4.2.9
[14:20] <sil3nt|warri0r> :(  but that would be pain again. casue that updates r for developers
[14:21] <Mamarok> sil3nt|warri0r: well, yes that would be the other option, but it has a few dependency errors and is still quite beta
[14:21] <sil3nt|warri0r> i know
[14:22] <kriox> thank for all guys see you nest time
[14:22] <Mamarok> sil3nt|warri0r: and I would have to digg into some priority settings for apt-get to get that resolved in KDE and do not really have time right now
[14:22] <Mamarok> sil3nt|warri0r: my colleague will take over later, can you wait?
[14:22] <Mamarok> cu kriox :)
[14:22] <sil3nt|warri0r> yes
[14:22] <sil3nt|warri0r> how long ?
[14:25] <Mamarok> sil3nt|warri0r: he will be here any minute, I really have to run, thx for your patience
[14:25] <ikonia> sil3nt|warri0r: hi
[14:25] <Mamarok> sil3nt|warri0r: please check with ikonia :)
[14:26] <Mamarok> ikonia: thx for taking over :)
[14:26] <ikonia> no problem
[14:26] <sil3nt|warri0r> Mamarok: sure, thx for ur help too frnd
[14:26] <sil3nt|warri0r> cu
[14:26] <sil3nt|warri0r> ikonia: hi
[14:26] <ikonia> sil3nt|warri0r: so as I understand it you've put some plasma packages on that have caused you some issues ?
[14:26] <sil3nt|warri0r> do i have to explain the it again ?
[14:26] <ikonia> sil3nt|warri0r: do you want to give me a quick summary
[14:26] <sil3nt|warri0r> yes
[14:27] <sil3nt|warri0r> the main thing is that, i have "dont know how" installed some of 4.2.9 pkgs
[14:27] <ikonia> sil3nt|warri0r: ok - so I don't know how far along the resolution you are but the obvious thing would be to remove those packages, is that an option ?
[14:27] <sil3nt|warri0r> these are kdelibs, kdellibs-data, libplasma
[14:27] <sil3nt|warri0r> etc
[14:27] <ikonia> sil3nt|warri0r: have you been using the proposed repos ?
[14:28] <sil3nt|warri0r> no, i have enabled some ppa repos, and thats cause the prob
[14:28] <sil3nt|warri0r> i guess
[14:28] <ikonia> that would be a sensible assumption
[14:29] <ikonia> sil3nt|warri0r: if possible - I'd suggest taking this back to a more stable release by removing the packages, removing the PPA's and re-applying "kubuntu-desktop" pacakge
[14:29] <sil3nt|warri0r> if i try to remove the libplasma3-4:4.2.9 now, there is many pkg that will autu-remove along with that
[14:29] <ikonia> yes, there is due to the dependencies
[14:29] <sil3nt|warri0r> one thing possible it its there in kubuntu, to downgrade to aprevious pkg, like rpm has
[14:29] <sil3nt|warri0r> ^if its
[14:30] <ikonia> sil3nt|warri0r: it is possible with package policy/pinning but that will break anything that depends on it
[14:30] <ikonia> sil3nt|warri0r: thats why I'm suggesting taking it back to a known stable point and rolling forward from there
[14:31] <sil3nt|warri0r> but all my settings will be gone, the main thing is that i will not be able to use kde untill i reinstall kdelibs-4.2.4 again
[14:31] <ikonia> sil3nt|warri0r: you're settings won't be gone, they are held in your .kde directoy
[14:32] <ikonia> only the packages get deleted, not your personal data
[14:32] <sil3nt|warri0r> yes
[14:32] <sil3nt|warri0r> ok
[14:32] <sil3nt|warri0r> but what about the access kde ?
[14:32] <sil3nt|warri0r> i cant get back to kde-gui untill i reinstall kde4.2.4
[14:33] <ikonia> well, that's going to be tricky, at some point you will lose it, unless you can do something like the synaptic "reinstall" option from aptitude ?
[14:33] <ikonia> (I don't know aptitude well so sorry)
[14:35] <sil3nt|warri0r> i found a option in syneptic - force version
[14:35] <waltzingalong> aptitude reinstall package ?
[14:35] <sil3nt|warri0r> from ther i can chose which version to reinstall
[14:35] <ikonia> sil3nt|warri0r: yes, sorry, I didn't know you had synaptic installed
[14:35] <sil3nt|warri0r> k
[14:35] <sil3nt|warri0r> so i can use this option, right ?
[14:36] <sil3nt|warri0r> for all those pkgs that has 4.2.9 suffix
[14:37] <ikonia> seems worth a try, easier than other options
[14:37] <Deepthought> I keep getting strange errors when I try to use kpackage, synaptic or apt; an error code 1 or 2 in libgnom2-0 and/or libgail18 whenever I try to install something something or do an apt -f install etc
[14:37] <Deepthought> can' t remove them either
[14:38] <sil3nt|warri0r> k
[14:47] <iznotgood> i ve got a big problem please
[14:48] <iznotgood> i killed my grub
[14:48] <iznotgood> "killed"
[14:48] <iznotgood> and know i ve got "Error 15"
[14:48] <iznotgood> I RTFM but it didn't help me
[14:48] <alarm> you killed it ? you murderer
[14:48] <iznotgood> :
[14:49] <iznotgood> :$
[14:49] <iznotgood> I am using ubuntu live cd now
[14:49] <alarm> ok and whats the problem exactly ?
[14:49] <iznotgood> but don't work )_)
[14:49] <iznotgood> Error 15
[14:49] <iznotgood> i can't boot my computer LOL
[14:49] <iznotgood> i can't tweet, i am dead
[14:50] <alarm> u know on which partition it is ?
[14:50] <alarm> ok while u use life
[14:50] <alarm> open termina
[14:50] <alarm> try: find /grub/stage1
[14:50] <alarm> or find /boot/grub/stage1
[14:51] <iznotgood> alarm: thanks a lot for your help
[14:51] <iznotgood> alarm: in my /boot/grub
[14:51] <iznotgood> alarm: there are only devices.something
[14:51] <iznotgood> i don't have stage1 so find don't find nothing
[14:51] <alarm> ok
[14:52] <alarm> nano /boot/grub/menu.ls
[14:52] <alarm> menu.lst
[14:52] <iznotgood> yes thanks alarm ! then?
[14:53] <alarm> check at the bottom
[14:53] <alarm> it should say something like hd(... something)
[14:53] <iznotgood> should I kill myself ?
[14:53] <iznotgood> there is nothing in this file
[14:53] <alarm> maybe you opened an ew file
[14:53] <alarm> check in that dir
[14:53] <alarm> if not...
[14:53] <alarm> sudo grub
[14:54] <alarm> root (hd0,0)  (this should do)
[14:54] <alarm> setup(hd0)
[14:54] <iznotgood> OK : no there is nothing in the file
[14:54] <sil3nt|warri0r> ikonia: is ther any option where i can remove pkgs without ignoring dependencies, rpm -ev --nodeps
[14:54] <iznotgood> sil3nt|warri0r: OK thanks!!
[14:54] <iznotgood> 30secs to try all
[14:54] <iznotgood> thanks again alarm and sil3nt|warri0r for your help
[14:54] <alarm> iznotgood,  you dont need to reboot
[14:54] <alarm> you can try it in a console
[14:55] <alarm> once it is installed your will be notified by a message
[14:55] <iznotgood> Yes I am in the console with live cd
[14:55] <iznotgood> but there is a problem alarm
[14:55] <ikonia> sil3nt|warri0r: there is a force option that will do it
[14:55] <iznotgood> root (hd0,0) works but setup (hd0) no : Error 17 : Cannot mount selected partition
[14:55] <sil3nt|warri0r> ikonia: plz tell me
[14:56] <ikonia> sil3nt|warri0r: let me see if I can grab an ubuntu box to find the option
[14:56] <iznotgood> alarm: arf
[14:56] <alarm> ?
[14:56] <iznotgood> alarm: root (hd0,0) works but setup (hd0) no : Error 17 : Cannot mount selected partition
[14:56] <sil3nt|warri0r> ikonia: whenever i try to force version in syneptic, the other pkgs marked for auto-removal
[14:57] <sil3nt|warri0r> ikonia: k, thx
[14:57] <alarm> iznotgood,  are you sure about (hd0) and not maybe (hd1) ?
[14:57] <alarm> i dot know where you got ur linux ude
[14:58] <ikonia> sil3nt|warri0r: maybe --ignore-hold ?
[14:58] <iznotgood> No i am really not sure because I don't know how to get this information
[14:58] <ikonia> (reading man pages as I can't access my ubuntu box)
[14:58] <alarm> but why dont you google it a bit ? there are so many resources for this thing
[14:58] <sil3nt|warri0r> hmm
[14:59] <alarm> its just 3 step procedure , i encourage you to check on google a bit "how to restore grub"
[14:59] <alarm> that would help you a lot. i had also the same problem took me like 5-10 minutes to fix
[14:59] <iznotgood> alarm: Yes I did it: I am in this problem since yesterday but all the informations I found didn't help me because they say to try "find /boot/grub/stage1" but there is nothing in my grub
[14:59] <sil3nt|warri0r> any idea when 4.2.3 will be released ?
[14:59] <ikonia> sil3nt|warri0r: not sure if that's right, I'll keep reading
[14:59] <ikonia> sil3nt|warri0r: no idea
[14:59] <sil3nt|warri0r> any idea when 4.2.3 will be released ?\
[15:00] <iznotgood> alarm: root (hd0,0) say Error 21 : Selected disk does not exist, I tried hd1, hd2, hd3, hd4 but nothing
[15:00] <sil3nt|warri0r> 4.2.3 not, sorry, its 4.3 i meant
[15:00] <Dragnslcr> sil3nt|warri0r- 4.2.3 of what?
[15:00] <sil3nt|warri0r> kde
[15:00] <sil3nt|warri0r> i heard end of july, is that true ?
[15:00] <Dragnslcr> I think I saw something about the plan being late July
[15:01] <ikonia> sil3nt|warri0r: don't know
[15:01] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[15:01] <alarm> then i asume you try to instal it on the wrong place
[15:01] <alarm> as it says your linux is not on (hd0,0)
[15:02] <iznotgood> yes exactly but where? how can I know alarm ?
[15:02] <alarm> but strange that find doesnt output anything
[15:02] <alarm> normally with find
[15:02] <Dragnslcr> sil3nt|warri0r- http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.3_Release_Schedule
[15:02] <iznotgood> alarm: because there is nothing in my /boot/grub, debian installation corromped all the things (format and after, installation fail)
[15:02] <alarm> iznotgood,  try typing
[15:02] <iznotgood> yes?
[15:03] <alarm> root (<press tab>
[15:03] <iznotgood> ok
[15:03] <iznotgood> nothing alarm
[15:03] <alarm> i dont knwo if it shows any options
[15:03] <iznotgood> alarm: no it repeat "root (" while I press tab
[15:04] <sil3nt|warri0r> Dragnslcr: thx man
[15:04] <alarm> i dont know dude, sorry. maybe  you didnt just remove the grub from the mbr
[15:04] <iznotgood> argh
[15:04] <iznotgood> anyway thanks for your help
[15:04] <alarm> but deleted the entire boot files
[15:05] <sil3nt|warri0r> yea, was right, 28th july
[15:05] <iznotgood> if it deleted all How can I repair it?
[15:05] <sil3nt|warri0r> and any idea when it will be added to the kubuntu 9.04 repo ?
[15:05] <alarm> i dont know that. sorry
[15:05] <sil3nt|warri0r> so we can upgrade
[15:05] <iznotgood> ok thanks a lot
[15:05] <iznotgood> see you then
[15:06] <sil3nt|warri0r> iznotgood: i think u have reinstall grub on that partition
[15:06] <sil3nt|warri0r> using grub-install /dev/xxx
[15:06] <Dragnslcr> sil3nt|warri0r- will probably take a day or two to build the Kubuntu packages, though they may be able to get a head start with the RC
[15:07] <sil3nt|warri0r> hmm
[15:07] <iznotgood> sil3nt|warri0r: OK thanks I am going to test !
[15:07] <sil3nt|warri0r> so we can accept it first week of august
[15:07] <sil3nt|warri0r> iznotgood: u welcome
[15:08] <iznotgood> wnt
[15:08] <Dragnslcr> sil3nt|warri0r- nah, maybe July 29th or 30th at the latest, assuming there aren't any unexpected problems
[15:08] <iznotgood> what should I put after/dev? Linux partition sda3 ? sil3nt|warri0r
[15:08] <sil3nt|warri0r> another thing i wanted to know how i able to install 4.2.9 if 4.3 is still in beta mode
[15:08] <Dragnslcr> sil3nt|warri0r- 4.2.9?
[15:08] <sil3nt|warri0r> iznotgood: the partition number on which u want to install grub
[15:09] <sil3nt|warri0r> be carefull
[15:09] <sil3nt|warri0r> pplz
[15:09] <sil3nt|warri0r> yes, like /dev/sdx
[15:09] <iznotgood> OK! Thanks
[15:09] <sil3nt|warri0r> or /dev/hdx
[15:09] <sil3nt|warri0r> Dragnslcr: yes, i have installed some of those pkgs
[15:09] <sil3nt|warri0r> let me tell u
[15:10] <Dragnslcr> There is no 4.2.9 that I'm aware of
[15:10] <Dragnslcr> Latest 4.2 is 4.2.4
[15:10] <sil3nt|warri0r> yes, but his are from ppa
[15:10] <waltzingalong> 4.2.90 is 4.3beta
[15:10] <sil3nt|warri0r> i dont know why/how
[15:10] <waltzingalong> 4.2.90 is 4.3beta2, from the kubuntu ppa
[15:10] <iznotgood> it doesn't work, I think i am going to try with super grub disk
[15:11] <sil3nt|warri0r> waltzingalong: how come 4.2.90 is 4.3 beta
[15:11] <BluesKaj> Dragnslcr, it's aka KDE 4.3 Beta2
[15:11] <sil3nt|warri0r> it should be like 5 beta
[15:11] <sil3nt|warri0r> 5.0
[15:11] <sil3nt|warri0r> iznotgood: k
[15:11] <sil3nt|warri0r> iznotgood: what msg u get ?
[15:12] <waltzingalong> right. help /about kde would report "version 4.2.90 (kde 4.2.90 (kde 4.3 beta2))"
[15:12] <Dragnslcr> BluesKaj- yeah, 4.2.90 is. I was hoping that he'd figure out that being accurate with version numbers is important
[15:12] <BluesKaj> Dragnslcr, yeah , but it's confusing
[15:12] <sil3nt|warri0r> hehe, yea
[15:12] <waltzingalong> sil3nt|warri0r: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2.90
[15:13] <sil3nt|warri0r> thx
[15:13] <Dragnslcr> Yeah, it's definitely not normal practice in software, but I do see why they do it
[15:13] <sil3nt|warri0r> when the 5.0 will be released, :p
[15:23] <sfears> "cdrecord has no permission to open the device"... i receive that error when K3b gets to 29% burning an audio cd.  Any ideas how to fix? i've tried a few things found on the forums but it keeps trashing cd's
[15:24] <sil3nt|warri0r> ikonia: i am ding a full update, yes 4.2.90, cause i think that would be better, the desktop thing atleast will work
[15:24] <sil3nt|warri0r> i guess
[15:24] <sil3nt|warri0r> thx for ur and Mamarok help
[15:24] <ikonia> sil3nt|warri0r: ok, that's your call, be interesting to see how you get on
[15:25] <sil3nt|warri0r> yea, me too :)
[15:26] <sil3nt|warri0r> ok, update finished, now i have to reboot
[15:26] <sil3nt|warri0r> hope it works
[15:26] <ikonia> lets see
[15:26] <sil3nt|warri0r> k
[15:27] <sil3nt|warri0r> hope to c u
[15:28] <tom__> my soundcards keeps turning off when its been inactive for about 5 minutes and that makes a annoying blip sound is there somewhere i can turn of this automatic shutdown?
[15:28] <tom__> got kubuntu 9.04
[15:32] <igauz> can anyone tell me when how much time does it take for the latest versions to arrive in the ubuntu repository?
[15:32] <igauz> eclipse 3.4 has still not arrived
[15:32] <igauz> and eclipse 3.5 is going to hit developing circle soon
[15:33] <igauz> ????????????
[15:33] <igauz> any1 awake?
[15:33] <igauz> :)
[15:33] <FloodBotK2> igauz: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:33] <FloodBotK1> igauz: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:36] <rgarcia> hi all, could anybody say for me which program can i use to download videos from youtube for example?
[15:36] <rgarcia> and another one after to extract audios from video
[15:36] <Shadoze> Any way to have kde 4.2.4 & kde 3 beta 2? If i wanted to test i would go to kde 3 beta 2, and for my production/stable environment i would use kde 4.2.4
[15:37] <Shadoze> rgarcia: sudo apt-get install youtube-dl
[15:38] <Shadoze> and to download them: youtube-dl  http://www.youtube.com/video/url/
[15:38] <Shadoze> from the konsole/terminal w/e
[15:38] <rgarcia> only that?
[15:39] <Shadoze> No there are plently of extensions for firefox that can do it too
[15:39] <rgarcia> but Shadoze where do the downloads will be downloaded
[15:39] <igauz> google for 'keepvid' ...it is web portal which also allows for easy flash video downloading
[15:40] <igauz> from popular video sharing websites
[15:40] <Shadoze> urgh, i hate that servie, always gotta wait 24hours for my video
[15:40] <igauz> i guess the links are shown in a flash ...u just need to click on the link and download
[15:40] <waltzingalong> igauz: today's latest software does not hit repos for past releases, afaik
[15:40] <Shadoze> rgarcia: It will download wherever your konsole is in, by default it is your home folder, but you could cd to videos first and download from there
[15:40] <igauz> ok
[15:41] <igauz> but eclipse 3.4 came i guess long time back
[15:41] <igauz> currently, ubuntu still has 3.2 in its repository
[15:41] <igauz> eclipse 3.2
[15:42] <rgarcia> mmm nice Shadoze, nice...and do you know another program to extract audio from videos?
[15:42] <Shadoze> Afraid not, never done it but i'm sure someone else has
[15:43] <rgarcia> ok..let me try here.....by the way, thanks a lot Shadoze
[15:44] <rgarcia> does anyone here know a program to extract audio from videos?
[15:44] <Shadoze> No problem, just tested the yt downloader, works a charm :)
[15:44] <rgarcia> yeah....it's working!!!
[15:46] <Shadoze> Awesome, like i said by default it should go to /home/username/ when you open up the konsole, but you can use the cd command and start the download anywhere else
[15:46] <waltzingalong> rgarcia: mplayer dumpaudio ?
[15:47] <igauz> how about avidemux?
[15:47] <rgarcia> i can extract audio from video file?
[15:47] <rgarcia> igauz: yeah, i read about it, is it fine?
[15:47] <igauz> i guess i had only worked on wmv files
[15:47] <igauz> not sure about other ones
[15:48] <igauz> it works fine for wmv
[15:48] <igauz> give it a try
[15:48] <Shadoze> wmv :(
[15:48] <igauz> it shud work for others too ...u can try and check out
[15:48] <igauz> http://fixounet.free.fr/avidemux/
[15:49] <rgarcia> yes...i'm gonna do that....thanks a lot!!
[15:49] <igauz> even http://www.ffmpeg.org/
[15:49] <igauz> ffmpeg might also be helpful
[15:51] <Shadoze> http://linux.byexamples.com/archives/229/extract-audio-from-video-or-online-stream/
[15:51] <Shadoze> igauz was right about ffmpeg
[16:01] <sil3nt|warri0r> ikonia: :), everything seems to working now
[16:04] <kooky_> hello, i had deleting a folder from kubuntu on a NTFS disk is it able to recover it?
[16:07] <Walex> kooky_: better use MS-Windows based tools for that.
[16:07] <sil3nt|warri0r> Mamarok: u there ?
[16:08] <sil3nt|warri0r> Mamarok: well if u r not, just let u know that the all upgrade thing works for now and i have disabled the all ppa repos
[16:08] <sil3nt|warri0r> i will update again when kde 4.3 final will be released for kubuntu
[16:08] <refic> will kubuntu 9.10 have the air theme?
[16:09] <sil3nt|warri0r> Mamarok: ikonia: thx u both for ur kind effort-time and help
[16:10] <RickX> I can't seeme to have changes in my mouse cursor theme persist, they change back after login. Does anyone know how I can fix this?
[16:15] <kooky_> Walex: i try to find the folder with GetDataBack but he daesn't find it, it is the better soft i think for that
[16:23] <JuJuBee> I seem to be missing a printer configuration app.  How do I configure printers?
[16:26] <JuJuBee> Anybody have a suggestion?
[16:29] <aniela> #warszawa
[16:35] <Mamarok> JuJuBee: what KDE version?
[16:36] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: is it necessary while installing 4.3 that every package be 4.2.90 ?
[16:36] <BluesKaj> !cups | JuJuBee
[16:37] <Mamarok> check the systemsettings -> advanced Tabs
[16:37] <Mamarok> shadeslayer: 4.2.90 is 4.3 beta 2 :)
[16:38] <Adola> how do I create a network shared folder....Something Windows can see?
[16:38] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: i know...i just want to know if *every* package should be 4.2.90...im completely reinstalling KDE
[16:38] <jussi01> JuJuBee: the de agnostic way to configure printers is to go to http://localhost:631
[16:39] <Mamarok> shadeslayer: of course, you shouldn't mix 4.2.90 with another version, unless there is no package for
[16:39] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: hmm what about this : kdelibs4c2a 4:3.5.10.dfsg.1-1ubuntu8
[16:40] <Mamarok> shadeslayer: thats a 3.5.10 package...
[16:40] <Mamarok> why do you have such an old stuff?
[16:40] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: thats what im saying...some of the packages are 3.5.10..some 4.2.90...
[16:41] <Mamarok> shadeslayer: I gues it's because you still have some KDE 3.5.10 packages in use
[16:41] <Mamarok> guess*
[16:41] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: i never had kde 3.5 , i installed from 4.0
[16:41] <Mamarok> shadeslayer: do you use k3b?
[16:42] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: yes.
[16:42] <Mamarok> well, that's still a 3.5.10 package AFAIK
[16:42] <Mamarok> so you need the libs
[16:42] <shadeslayer> ah..
[16:42] <Mamarok> shadeslayer: you have finished upgrading to 4.2.90, right?
[16:43] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: nope :)...im installing
[16:43] <shadeslayer> 15 min more
[16:43] <Mamarok> shadeslayer: you know that there still are some problems, do you? I'm not doing that drama again with you...
[16:44] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: i wont bother you,dont worry
[16:46] <Adola> So, should I use samba?
[16:46] <Adola> Or what?
[16:46] <Mamarok> Adola: I guess so, yes
[16:52] <JuJuBee> BluesKaj: yes. I know about using cups web interface, but it troubles me that the app is not there.  The app makes it simple to add a printer and it even adds the fax capabilities automagically.
[16:54] <BluesKaj> JuJuBee, what app ? ...cups ?
[16:54] <Mamarok> JuJuBee: did you install the kdelibs?
[16:55] <JuJuBee> BluesKaj: the Printer Configuration in K-Menu->Applications->System
[16:55] <JuJuBee> Mamarok: how do I check?
[16:56] <Mamarok> JuJuBee: well, didn't you just say you didn't have it in #kde?
[16:57] <JuJuBee> hmm apparently not as apt-get install did the install and did not state already installed.
[16:58] <Mamarok> JuJuBee: you should first check that you have a complete KDE isntallation then
[16:58] <JuJuBee> How do I tell if it is complete?
[16:59] <Mamarok> JuJuBee: a graphic package manager could tell you
[16:59] <JuJuBee> like synaptic
[16:59] <Mamarok> for example
[16:59] <JuJuBee> any way to tell via cli?
[16:59] <JuJuBee> my wife is working on the desktop in question
[16:59] <Mamarok> well, with the ncurses interface of aptitude
[17:00] <JuJuBee> Not familiar with that.
[17:00] <Mamarok> JuJuBee: then use synaptic, works best
[17:00] <Mamarok> if you have it, KPackageKit works fine too
[17:01] <Mamarok> and it already has preconfigured filters
[17:01] <JuJuBee> Ok, will have to wait til later when she is finished with her paper.  What do I do once in synaptic to determine if complete?
[17:01] <Mamarok> search for KDE and check if you have the packages in main and universe
[17:01] <JuJuBee> I have kpackagekit
[17:01] <Mamarok> read the description of the packages and make sure you use the right version
[17:02] <Mamarok> in kpackagekit there already is a kDE filter
[17:02] <JuJuBee> the KDE Desktop?
[17:02] <Mamarok> exactly, and check for the kdebase packages etc for your current version of KDE
[17:03] <JuJuBee> If I install kdebase-... (all) will that take care of it?
[17:04] <Mamarok> JuJuBee: well, that should already be there :) you mightnot need the -dev and -dbg packages though
[17:05] <JuJuBee> kdebase- 4:4.2.2-0ubuntu4 (all) is gray
[17:05] <Mamarok> wait, let me check
[17:05] <Mamarok> of course you need that, but didn't you install Kubuntu?
[17:06] <Mamarok> this should already be installed
[17:06] <JuJuBee> Most of the others are installed (minus the dbg and dev)
[17:06] <JuJuBee> Yes
[17:06] <JuJuBee> I did install kubuntu
[17:06] <Mamarok> then you should have that package installed
[17:06] <Adola> Can someone please help me set up a shared folder?
[17:07] <JuJuBee> Hmm, it is not installed... gray even on my laptop
[17:07] <JuJuBee> gonna install on laptop
[17:07] <Mamarok> it should
[17:10] <Mamarok> JuJuBee: well, if it is the only one greyed out it's not that bad as it is a metapackage
[17:10] <JuJuBee> Well, I have to go to scouts with my son.  I will try back later .... Thanks Mamarok
[17:10] <Mamarok> ok
[17:11] <Mamarok> yaw :)
[17:12] <craiglarry> sorry, I'm lost
[17:12] <Mamarok> craiglarry: what's wrong?
[17:13] <craiglarry> I don't follow any of this, You have to give commands? What commands?
[17:13] <Mamarok> craiglarry: you are in a support channel here :)
[17:14] <craiglarry> That helps a bit
[17:14] <Mamarok> craiglarry: if you would tell us what the exact poblem is you have
[17:15] <craiglarry> my ubuntu tells me this is 'konversation.' I failed to bring a problem with me.
[17:16] <Mamarok> craiglarry: konversation is the IRC chat client of Kubuntu, and it opens in this channel by default
[17:16] <craiglarry> I need to read up about the use, sorry. I'll leave now.
[17:16] <Mamarok> no problem, you can linger here :)
[17:17] <craiglarry> thanks
[17:17] <Mamarok> you are welcome :)
[17:20] <hero> hye all...:)
[17:21] <Mamarok> !hi | hero
[17:21] <hero> thank you :)
[17:21] <hero> but i used gnome :)
[17:22] <hero> what application that i must have in ubuntu? i have banshee already..
[17:23] <Mamarok> hero: then you should go to #ubuntu if you don't use KDE :)
[17:23] <hero> owh is it...okay thanks Mamarok
[17:23] <Mamarok> you are welcome :)
[17:25] <CartoonCat> Hellos
[17:25] <Mamarok> hi
[17:25] <CartoonCat> I have a VMWare guest based on Gutsy Gibbon, this seams to have been removed from the mirrors?
[17:26] <Mamarok> CartoonCat: Gutsy is not supported anymore, no
[17:27] <Mamarok> it expired in April or so I think
[17:27] <CartoonCat> ah k, so, vmplanet needs to get its idea of "recent" a little straighter
[17:28] <Mamarok> well, there was Hardy after Gutsy, then Intrepid and currently Jaunty
[17:28] <CartoonCat> can i upgrade it or do i need to just get another vm ?  right now my link to the server is over some pretty bad wireless so things are being hextra hard (namely, hit 1 key, get 5 of them)
[17:29] <CartoonCat> i tried apt-get but, its all missing heh
[17:29] <waltzingalong> pssssst virtualbox   CartoonCat
[17:30] <CartoonCat> yea ive been told
[17:32] <felix_> na
[17:33] <CartoonCat> is there a upgrade path for me, or is it better/easier to just grab a netinst?
[17:33] <greg> Hello all, Have a video question.. Sysytem= DEL XPS200 1gig men, 2.8 ghz dual cpu, Video Card   ATI Technologies Inc RV380 [Radeon X600 (PCIE). When runnibg Compiz on KUBUNTU 9.04 KDE4.2.2 at intermitten time the video will shut down and mt screen power button changes to yellow  Video off, but randomly. seemed to hapen more when running VLC APP Any ideas? Have the following drivers:server glx vendor string: SGI
[17:33] <greg> client glx vendor string: SGI
[17:33] <greg> OpenGL vendor string: DRI R300 Project
[17:35] <Mamarok> CartoonCat: you run it in a VM?
[17:36] <CartoonCat> Mamarok: yup
[17:36] <Mamarok> CartoonCat: there are upgrade paths to follow, you need to upgrade to Hardy first
[17:37] <CartoonCat> mmm that doesnt sound pretty
[17:37] <Mamarok> !upgrade | CartoonCat
[17:38] <waltzingalong> there are other ways but that is the officially supported way
[17:38] <Mamarok> and Hardy will be still available for some time in the repos
[17:38] <waltzingalong> and probably the one that will work best in most situations
[17:46] <bentob0x> anybody heard about a recent bug/regression with the 'select a file' dialog in Kubuntu 9.04?
[17:48] <Mamarok> bentob0x: select a file?
[17:48] <Mamarok> where is this dialog and what application?
[17:56] <Guest67170> hi
[17:56] <Guest67170> i need help
[17:56] <Guest67170> i am first time user of linux
[17:56] <Guest67170> i have a dell mini 1010
[17:57] <Guest67170> i am trying to install Intel GMA550
[17:57] <Mamarok> Guest67170: please, all in one line
[17:57] <Guest67170> ok
[17:57] <bentob0x> Mamarok: I spotted it in Firefox and Truecrypt so far, it's recent tho, maybe a week
[17:57] <bentob0x> it's when I need to select a file to upload for instance
[17:58] <bentob0x> or select a file to open in Truecrypt
[17:58] <Guest67170> i get the error for the libc.so.6
[17:58] <Mamarok> bentob0x: well, then it's maybe related to an update you made?
[17:59] <Mamarok> Guest67170: what exactly do you want to install?
[17:59] <bentob0x> yes, it's probably an update on KDE 4.3 beta or something
[18:00] <Mamarok> bentob0x: check on Launchpad if there is a report, I really don't know
[18:00] <Guest67170> Graphic Card Intel GMA500
[18:00] <Mamarok> Guest67170: you mean the driver for the card?
[18:00] <Guest67170> yes
[18:00] <Mamarok> Guest67170: but you already installed Kubuntu, right?
[18:01] <Guest67170> yes i have
[18:01] <Adola> I need help.
[18:01] <Mamarok> and do you have graphic problems?
[18:01] <Guest67170> yes it give me 800X700 only
[18:01] <Adola> I've installed samba, and I can't see the windows machine at all
[18:02] <Mamarok> Adola: sorry, I don't know samba, maybe somebody else
[18:02] <Mamarok> Guest67170: that's not necessarily a driver error, just a configuration problem
[18:03] <khoubeib> hi , i have got this problem when i was trying to install gmail widget "Could not create a python scriptengine for the gmail-plasmoid widget" i'm using jaunty , anyone have an idea
[18:03] <Guest67170> shall i copy the error here
[18:03] <Mamarok> khoubeib: where did you get that widget from?
[18:03] <Mamarok> Guest67170: no, in a pastebin, wait
[18:03] <khoubeib> form widget browser
[18:03] <Mamarok> !paste | Guest67170
[18:03] <khoubeib> from*
[18:03] <Guest67170> ok
[18:04] <Mamarok> khoubeib: did you upgrade from Intrepid to Hardy?
[18:04] <khoubeib> no
[18:04] <Guest67170> ok
[18:04] <waltzingalong> Mamarok: would that be a downgrade? ;)
[18:05] <BluesKaj> Adola, have you set up share folders on windows?
[18:05] <Mamarok> waltzingalong: oops :)
[18:05] <Mamarok> khoubeib: I meant Intrepid to Jaunty of course :)
[18:05] <khoubeib> :)
[18:05] <khoubeib> no
[18:06] <Mamarok> khoubeib: you installed it through the "add widget" interfacee you mean?
[18:07] <Adola> BluesKaj: Yes, because I was able to see my computer from the other computer and visaversa while they were both on windows.  Now, that I"m back on linux niethr can see each other.
[18:07] <khoubeib> yes
[18:07] <Adola> I pinged my machine with the other, and I seen it.
[18:07] <khoubeib> the normal way
[18:07] <Guest67170> Mamarok : Here is the link http://paste.ubuntu.com/195797/
[18:08] <Mamarok> khoubeib: then you should go to http://kde-look.org for support, as this is a third party application, not a widget from the repositories
[18:08] <khoubeib> ok thanks Mamarok i'll take a look
[18:08] <Mamarok> Guest67170: where did you get that driver from?
[18:09] <Mamarok> khoubeib: you are welcome .)
[18:09] <Guest67170> i download from del mini CD
[18:09] <BluesKaj> adola , I had to redo the share on the windows folders after a kubuntu upgrade. It's the nature of the beast , especially if you're running vista
[18:09] <Adola> It's XP.
[18:10] <Adola> You suggest redoing the shared folders on windows?
[18:10] <BluesKaj> reshare them anyway
[18:10] <Mamarok> Guest67170: you should try the drivers from the repositories first IMHO
[18:10] <Guest67170> Mamarok how do i get that
[18:11] <Mamarok> Guest67170: normally the driver is already installed, you should try the display settings in the System Settings
[18:11] <Guest67170> this system was orginally a Windws home XP system
[18:11] <Guest67170> I have downloaded the kbuntu and installed myself
[18:11] <Mamarok> Guest67170: that doesn't matter for the drivers, Linux uses its own drivers :)
[18:12] <Guest67170> how do i check the IMHO repository : pleae advice the command
[18:12] <BluesKaj> !repository
[18:13] <Mamarok> Guest67170: in the menu, go to the System settings and there you have a "Display" section
[18:13] <Guest67170> Mamarok : I am there
[18:13] <Mamarok> BluesKaj: if he installed Kubuntu he already hsa the driver, it's the resolution
[18:14] <Mamarok> Guest67170: try to change the resolution there
[18:14] <Guest67170> 800 X 576 is the only option
[18:14] <Mamarok> right...
[18:14] <Mamarok> BluesKaj: you an expert for X settings?
[18:15] <BluesKaj> Mamarok, yeah , but sometimes a monitor driver is also required , a little known fact
[18:15] <Guest67170> cannot change resolution setting
[18:15] <Guest67170> yes the monitor is "unknown"
[18:15] <Mamarok> BluesKaj: could you check with Guest67170, please?
[18:15] <Adola> That didn't work.
[18:15] <Guest67170> thankx Mamarok for all the help
[18:15] <Adola> No one in #samba will help
[18:15] <Mamarok> Guest67170: you are welcome :)
[18:16] <BluesKaj> Guest67170, I suggest you try to find a linux driver for the monitor ,sometimes that will solve a resolution problem
[18:16] <Mamarok> Adola: it's Sunday...
[18:17] <BluesKaj> Adola, type smb:// in the konqueror addressbar ...tell me what comes up
[18:17] <Guest67170> BluesKaj: I will try to find that...but how do i identify the monitor on DELL MINI 1010
[18:17] <Adola> smb:/
[18:17] <Adola> Shows "Mshome
[18:17] <Adola> Inside of mshome is my computer, that's it.
[18:17] <BluesKaj> ok open mshome
[18:18] <BluesKaj> does your xp machine have a name / username ?
[18:18] <Adola> Yes.
[18:18] <Adola> I was able to view it when this machine was in XP
[18:19] <Guest67170> i cannot install jdk 5 and 6 ' the message is "if you are installing for the first time use not updated version
[18:19] <Guest67170> where do I find this
[18:20] <Mamarok> Guest67170: jdk is in the repositories
[18:20] <Guest67170> right but it does not allow me to install
[18:26] <MadMoney> Is a Kubuntu a trademark infringement on Ubuntu?
[18:26] <waltzingalong> MadMoney: no
[18:26] <MadMoney> Are they from the same organization?
[18:27] <waltzingalong> MadMoney: yes
[18:27] <MadMoney> Okay, thanks.
[18:27] <waltzingalong> MadMoney: http://www.ubuntu.com/aboutus/trademarkpolicy
[18:29] <Mamarok> MadMoney: that one is even better: http://www.ubuntu.com/aboutus/faq
[18:30] <Mamarok> read the section " What are the different versions of Ubuntu?"
[18:30] <asinha> Hi this is Guest67170: I have learned to identify myself
[18:31] <Mamarok> asinha: great, congrats :)
[18:31] <asinha> thanks
[18:57] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: hehe...no luck
[18:57] <RickX> can anyone ell me how to add a style?
[19:03] <tehboriz> i am wondering if there are any sexy screensavers in my kubuntu
[19:04] <rgarcia> hi all, does anybody know how to remove encryption from a pdf file?
[19:04] <MilitantPotato> Can someone pastebin the contents of the default /~/.kde/share/apps/ksysguard/SystemLoad.sgrd please?
[19:04] <tehboriz> rgarcia: there's some progs to do it in windows, i've done it before
[19:04] <rgarcia> yes..but in windows do you know anyone?
[19:05] <tehboriz> what do you mean
[19:06] <rgarcia> ops, in linux, kubuntu
[19:06] <tehboriz> not really
[19:06] <tehboriz> i'm new
[19:07] <ign0ramus> rgarcia, not sure if mine's been modified by other apps, but i personally haven't edited it: http://pastebin.com/m66e966ae
[19:08] <ign0ramus> rgarcia, if you print the pdf to a ps file, and then print it back to pdf, does the encryption remain?
[19:09] <rgarcia> how do i do that?
[19:09] <rgarcia> let m e try
[19:10] <faessje> Hi
[19:10] <ign0ramus> rgarcia, forget that... just install qpdf
[19:10] <ign0ramus> rgarcia, http://blog.sandipb.net/2009/01/10/removing-encryption-from-legitimate-pdf-files-on-ubuntu/
[19:11] <rgarcia> yes, i did with ps.
[19:11] <ign0ramus> rgarcia, so that works?
[19:12] <e-jat> anyone here run kopete with facebook plugin ?
[19:12] <rgarcia> yep...and i also gonna try the qpdf
[19:12] <ign0ramus> rgarcia, cool.  it was just an educated guess ;)
[19:13] <ign0ramus> rgarcia, qpdf seems like a cleaner solution, and its in the repos
[19:14] <MilitantPotato> can someone run "kate ~/.kde/share/apps/ksysguard/SystemLoad.sgrd" and pastebin the config?
[19:15] <ign0ramus> MilitantPotato, see my x:06 timestamped comment above
[19:15] <tehboriz> i installed a bunch of screensaver packages but they won't show up in "screensaver" under desktop settings... am i doing it wrong?
[19:15] <intok> why can I join kubuntu but not ubuntu?
[19:16] <tehboriz> i can :)
[19:17] <tehboriz> okay guys seriously this isn't funny
[19:17] <oscar> hello
[19:17] <BluesKaj> intok, could you join in the past ?
[19:17] <oscar> please can you speak french?
[19:17] <shadeslayer> intok: maybe your ip is banned or soething
[19:17] <shadeslayer> !fr | oscar
[19:17] <BluesKaj> !fr | oscar
[19:18] <ign0ramus> tehboriz, are you compiling them?  if so, are they installing without errors?
[19:18] <rgarcia> mm..right ign0ramus, i'm gonna try it, thanks a lot
[19:18] <tehboriz> ign0ramus: no i installed xscreensavers and all those packages, even electricsheep
[19:18] <tehboriz> they just don't show up in that window
[19:18] <nikitis> Is bitblender available yet?
[19:19] <tehboriz> nvm ign0ramus, closing that window didn't do anything... i had to close the entire system settings window and turn it on again
[19:19] <tehboriz> fixed it :)
[19:19] <ign0ramus> tehboriz, :)
[19:20] <shadeslayer> is kde a necessary package for kde 4.3 ??
[19:20] <shadeslayer> !info kde
[19:20] <tehboriz> hey ign0ramus what's a good screensaver package? this is pretty weak, i'm seeing 8bit colour stuff
[19:21] <tehboriz> haha asciiquarium
[19:21] <ign0ramus> tehboriz, i don't know about packages, i'd check www.kde-look.org and find ones i personally liked
[19:21] <tehboriz> ah thanks
[19:21] <MilitantPotato> ign0ramus: thank you
[19:21] <ign0ramus> np fellas
[19:21] <tehboriz> do you use em?
[19:22] <ign0ramus> tehboriz, personally, no.  i just let the screen turn off after 15 mins of no use
[19:22] <tehboriz> boooring lol
[19:22] <nikitis> Is there a way to "Show Desktop" with keyboard keys?
[19:22] <ign0ramus> tehboriz, haha!  but seriously, what is the point of a screensaver? i never understood the point
[19:22] <tehboriz> this 22" lcd is getting old, i wouldn't mind a burned out backlight... thanks for your help
[19:22] <tehboriz> ign0ramus: it looks super awesome and stuff when you have guests over
[19:23] <tehboriz> cause you gotta point out that you're on linux, whihc means you're a super hacker pro guy
[19:23] <tehboriz> helios was a nice one i had on windows
[19:23] <nikitis> heh not nowadays, my grandmother just started using linux
[19:23] <ign0ramus> tehboriz, ahh the "wow" factor... there's a pretty cool OpenGL fireworks display that i used to have. impressed the gf, anyway ;)
[19:24] <tehboriz> ah i shall check it out!
[19:24] <BluesKaj> <--- a grandfather who's been usiing linux for 6yrs
[19:24] <nikitis> New grandfather?
[19:25] <ign0ramus> nikitis, you can do ctr+f12 ... not sure if thats what you're looking for (it doesn't show panel(s))
[19:25] <BluesKaj> nope , got 5 grandkids
[19:25] <nikitis> ign0ramus: not quite, i'm looking for something that will minimize all programs
[19:25] <nikitis> BluesKaj: nice
[19:26] <tehboriz> wow, opengl ones are impressive
[19:26] <nikitis> ign0ramus: having issues playing World of Warcraft, and needing to minimize it but can't cause it's fullscreen.
[19:26] <BluesKaj> lots of retired techie type retired ppl use linux
[19:26] <ign0ramus> nikitis, ctrl+f2
[19:26] <nikitis> ign0ramus: ah desktop switch
[19:27] <tehboriz> yeahh... flying toasters!
[19:27] <nikitis> that could do, but i'd still prefer the ability to show desktop.  Gnome has Ctrl+alt+D for that.  KDE has nothing similar?
[19:27] <ign0ramus> nikitis, is that really what it does? i'm boring and only use a single workspace... ctrl+f2 just minimizes all apps for me...
[19:28] <nikitis> ign0ramus: that's not exactly minimizing, but similar
[19:28] <rgarcia> ign0ramus: Folha_de_Rosto_dos_Trabalhos_-_INDIVIDUAL.pdf: invalid password
[19:28] <nikitis> ign0ramus: oh i see
[19:28] <nikitis> you have only one deskspace
[19:28] <rgarcia> $ qpdf --decrypt --password=mypassword input.pdf output.pdf
[19:28] <rgarcia> what does it mean?
[19:29] <ign0ramus> rgarcia, i never used the app, simply found a post that said this would decrypt.  best to read the documentation
[19:29] <nikitis> ign0ramus: hmm when i disabled my 2nd desktop, for only 1, and tried ctrl+f2.  It did nothing
[19:29] <ign0ramus> nikitis, i'm using kde 4.2.3 if it makes a difference
[19:29] <nikitis> same ;(
[19:30] <ign0ramus> nikitis, but ctrl+f2 most certainly minimizes all my windows... :/
[19:30] <nikitis> bah.
[19:30] <nikitis> well
[19:30] <nikitis> Thanks for your help. Anyone else have any suggestions.
[19:32] <sourcemaker> I have a problem with a parallell session in kde... the login of the second user is ok... but the screen remains gray...
[19:32] <ign0ramus> nikitis, apparently, you can set a keyboard shortcut to any plasma widget, including Show Desktop, but it's not pretty ...
[19:32] <ign0ramus> nikitis, http://forum.kde.org/minimize-to-desktop-hide-all-windows-panel-button-t-6332.html#pid7255
[19:37] <c3o> hai all
[19:38] <c3o> any hacker on this room brother...
[19:38] <c3o> am need to talk
[19:38] <suds> prefer programmer
[19:38] <c3o>  brother....
[19:38] <c3o> em.. that oke
[19:38] <c3o> suds are u programmer
[19:38] <c3o> ?
[19:38] <suds> yes
[19:39] <c3o> nice..  so nice, nice to meet you suds
[19:39] <c3o> am ceo from aceh...
[19:39] <suds> nice to meet you too
[19:39] <suds> interesting
[19:40] <c3o> may be just you brother on this room ?... any else ? // sorry if my english so bad..
[19:40] <c3o> :D
[19:40] <c3o> back to topic, am need make bms
[19:40] <suds> well for right now it appears that way
[19:40] <c3o> can you help me
[19:40] <c3o> am want make bms
[19:41] <shadeslayer> bms?
[19:41] <suds> yeah please enlighten me on bms
[19:41] <shadeslayer> suds: what is bms?
[19:42] <ign0ramus> i made bms this morning
[19:42] <suds> I'm not too sure I might know it but never heard it put that way
[19:43] <c3o> :))
[19:43] <c3o> that some application like cms brother...
[19:44] <c3o> Bridge Management System
[19:44] <c3o> B M S
[19:44] <shadeslayer> ah....
[19:44] <suds> I understand that now, but what is your point here?
[19:44] <c3o> chek this link http://www.developers.net/tsearch?searchkeys=bridge+management+system+software
[19:45] <ign0ramus> c3o, you have to register to read developers.ne
[19:45] <shadeslayer> c3o: you need a software for BMS in Kubuntu?
[19:45] <c3o> not
[19:45] <c3o> that software run on webbase
[19:45] <shadeslayer> so why have you come to #kubuntu ?
[19:46] <c3o> em.. am want develop it with kubuntu.
[19:46] <shadeslayer> c3o: then please visit sourceforge
[19:46] <shadeslayer> !sourceforge
[19:46] <shadeslayer> -_-
[19:47] <c3o> my pal develop it on wind***s am tall him am can develop it with kubuntu and with all my brother on here
[19:47] <suds> well that's not really in my expertise...I mainly do scripting and algorithms not stuff like that
[19:47] <c3o> yup you right shadeslayer
[19:47] <c3o> chek it out http://www.google.co.id/search?hl=id&client=firefox-a&rls=com.ubuntu%3Aen-US%3Aunofficial&q=bridge+management+system&btnG=Telusuri&meta=
[19:47] <c3o> am need that software,....
[19:47] <shadeslayer> c3o: you could try in #ubuntu-devel
[19:48] <c3o> em... thanks brother shadeslayer
[19:48] <c3o> #ubuntu-devel
[19:48] <c3o> sorry all my brother on #kuubuntu
[19:48] <c3o> am new one
[19:48] <shadeslayer> c3o: they will have a better idea on where to point you
[19:48] <c3o> need teach
[19:48] <c3o> sorry shadeslayer what that mean?
[19:49] <shadeslayer> c3o: /join #ubuntu-devel
[19:49] <c3o> thanks shadeslayer am will try it
[19:49] <c3o> am on there brother.. shadeslayer
[19:50] <c3o> thanks for you informastion am will try to talk on there
[19:50] <shadeslayer> c3o: ask youre question there :)
[19:50] <shadeslayer> bye all
[19:50] <c3o> by shadeslayer
[19:50] <kevin__> hey
[19:51] <c3o> hey kevin
[19:51] <c3o> what up
[19:53] <seevee> hi
[19:55] <seevee> I have a question that I couldn't find in documentation...
[19:55] <seevee> I used unetbootin to set up xubuntu as a livecd on a usb...
[19:56] <seevee> ... when I try to boot, the font is grossly out of proportion to the point of the desktop being unusable.
[19:56] <seevee> Any tips?
[20:01] <c3o_> hai ... my room so many this command
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[20:01] <FloodBotK2> c3o_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:03] <c3o_> how to register and identify with nickserv
[20:03] <c3o_> ?
[20:03] <c3o_> can help me
[20:07] <jussi01> !register | c3o_
[20:07] <c3o_> yup thanks am will jussi01
[20:09] <alucard_> hi
[20:10] <c3o_> :))
[20:10] <steve__> hey all
[20:11] <c3o_> who to reg it
[20:11] <alucard_> excues me
[20:12] <alucard_> I dant speak english
[20:12] <c3o_> yup alucard
[20:12] <c3o_> what you speak
[20:12] <alucard_> Turkish
[20:12] <alucard_> It is ubuntu perfect
[20:12] <alucard_> but
[20:13] <alucard_> I don't installing OSS
[20:13] <alucard_> and
[20:13] <jussi01> !tr | alucard_
[20:13] <alucard_> Firefox not running
[20:13] <c3o> !register | c3o
[20:14] <alucard_> thanks
[20:14] <alucard_> see you later ubuntu users family
[20:27] <bahramwhh_> Thanks Linux (very much) http://linux.slashdot.org/story/09/06/11/214240/Linux-To-Be-First-OS-To-Support-USB-30
[20:34] <desaparecido> hi, i have a problem with no sound notification in jaunty KDE 4.3 beta 2, no MP3 or OGG plays (amarok, kaffeine, etc) but WMA works. audio in video it's ok too.some idea? works before las upgrade
[20:36] <c3o> what error ?
[20:38] <c3o> hai all am used ubuntu an um update to kubuntu now am want to install thema who i do it ?
[20:39] <ikonia> !theme
[20:43] <sourcemaker> I have a problem with akonadi... when I start kontact I receive the error message: Bridged resource '3ZQHxFgETK' has no standard resource
[20:43] <sourcemaker> the second problem is: the strigi service is not visible in the system tray (KDE 4.3b2)
[20:49] <c3o> please tall me how to cheng gdm
[20:52] <c3o> brother.. how to upgrade open office 2.4 to 3.x
[20:55] <ikonia> c3o: what version of ubuntu are you using
[20:55] <ikonia> c3o: please stop calling everyone "brother"
[21:09] <c3o> 8.04
[21:10] <c3o> am used version of 8.04
[21:10] <adam> hello does anyone know how to fix backlight problems
[21:10] <c3o> for ubuntu but am upgrade to kubuntu
[21:10] <c3o> am blank so blank of it
[21:10] <Shadoze> Does anyone know why all java applications stay  minimised and cant be adjusted
[21:10] <adam> i am using a torch to see my screen
[21:11] <Guest63606> hey every1, got problem with my jaunty, i updatet my packages and installed with dist-upgrade, now i got non-solved connections in my repisitory, and at every start plasma crashes, and cant reloaded, just got window bar
[21:12] <Shadoze> Nevermind, it appears to only have done it on the first time i opened it
[21:12] <Guest63606>   kdebase-workspace-dev: Hängt ab: kdebase-workspace-libs4+5 (= 4:4.2.4-0ubuntu1~jaunty1~ppa1.1) aber 4:4.2.90-0ubuntu1~jaunty1~ppa2 ist installiert
[21:12] <Guest63606>                          Hängt ab: libkwineffects1 (= 4:4.2.4-0ubuntu1~jaunty1~ppa1.1) aber 4:4.2.90-0ubuntu1~jaunty1~ppa2 ist installiert
[21:12] <Guest63606>                          Hängt ab: libkdecorations4 (= 4:4.2.4-0ubuntu1~jaunty1~ppa1.1) aber 4:4.2.90-0ubuntu1~jaunty1~ppa2 ist installiert
[21:12] <Guest63606>   kdeplasma-addons: Hängt ab: plasma-widgets-addons (>= 4:4.2.90-0ubuntu1~jaunty1~ppa1) ist aber nicht installiert
[21:12] <FloodBotK2> Guest63606: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:12] <Guest63606>                     Hängt ab: plasma-runners-addons (>= 4:4.2.90-0ubuntu1~jaunty1~ppa1) ist aber nicht installiert
[21:12] <Guest63606>                     Hängt ab: plasma-widget-lancelot (>= 4:4.2.90-0ubuntu1~jaunty1~ppa1) ist aber nicht installiert
[21:12] <Shadoze> Guest63606: please use http://www.paste.ubuntu.com
[21:14] <Guest63606> okay sorry
[21:14] <Guest63606> :)
[21:14] <Guest63606> http://paste.ubuntu.com/195887/
[21:14] <Guest63606> the packages
[21:16] <carolija> Hllo anyone know about this issuse whan i reboot the system I cant see the screen after this message "Starting Userful..." That is som game wich i installd but i don't need it
[21:16] <carolija> Hello*
[21:16] <Shadoze> christian: maybe #kubuntu-de may be of use to you?
[21:16] <Guest9862> kk
[21:17] <Shadoze> carolija: if you don't need the game then remove it?
[21:18] <Shadoze> If i understood correctly
[21:18] <carolija> How do i unistall it via knozola coz there is no other way?
[21:18] <JuJuBee> Mamarok: you around?
[21:18] <carolija> Shadoze: how ?
[21:18] <carolija> I cant find it
[21:18] <carolija> I have installed it via add program
[21:18] <carolija> but now i can't find the game, and that game blocking my all system
[21:18] <sheytan_> Hi guys
[21:18] <FloodBotK1> carolija: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:18] <FloodBotK2> carolija: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:19] <carolija> cant start it
[21:19] <sheytan_> what are you using for screecasting?
[21:19] <Dragnslcr> carolija- what's the name of the game?
[21:20] <carolija> Dragnslcr: The name is userful .
[21:20] <Dragnslcr> !info userful
[21:20] <carolija> I have tried reemove userful
[21:20] <Dragnslcr> carolija- did you install it from the regular repositories?
[21:20] <carolija> but h can't find it
[21:20] <carolija> ys
[21:21] <carolija> from the regular
[21:21] <carolija> yes*
[21:21] <Shadoze> remove out however you remove things in knozola?
[21:21] <Shadoze> I'm afraid i dont even know what that is, so i can be of little help there
[21:22] <carolija> I read this but thr is nothing of help to remove it http://support.userful.com/wiki/index.php/Manuals/UMx/User_Guide#Ubuntu_8.10
[21:22] <Dragnslcr> carolija- that doesn't look like a game
[21:23] <Dragnslcr> !info userful-multiplier
[21:23] <carolija> The main problem is that game dos not support Radeon and now after restart i cant login
[21:23] <sheytan_> Guys! I need some app for screencasting. Can someone name some?
[21:23] <carolija> voila, what is that
[21:23] <carolija> It is Trial version
[21:24] <Shadoze> carolija, did you know what you were installing before you went abou tinstalling it?
[21:24] <carolija> I tought it some game
[21:24] <JuJuBee> Anyone use kpilot with a palm treo?
[21:24] <carolija> Shadoze:
[21:26] <Shadoze> carolija: Perhaps there documentation may be of use to you, they appear to have unistalling instructions there also: http://support.userful.com/wiki/index.php/Manuals/UMx/User_Guide
[21:27] <carolija> I remv it i guess, wills ee now
[21:27] <carolija> remove*
[21:27] <ubsafder> from /var/log can i see the adress assigned by dhcp ?
[21:27] <Shadoze> Carolija, huh?
[21:27] <Shadoze> Oh sorry, gotcha come back with the result!
[21:27] <carolija> yup
[21:29] <Shadoze> :), does anyone else have timeouts and "cannot install this error messages" when trying to install sun's java packages
[21:32] <AdmiralNDP> Interesting. The default channel for the Mint Linux install is #kubuntu.
[21:33] <carolija> Shadoze: now is all okay.
[21:34] <c3o> hai all can kubuntu we used for learn hacking ?
[21:34] <c3o> :)
[21:34] <c3o> am interest for hacking
[21:34] <c3o> for learn
[21:35] <carolija> Just i can't figure aout witch package i install avary time and I lose the KDE ? Any ida ? Now i have same like ubuntu damn
[21:35] <Shadoze> c3o: http://aseigo.blogspot.com/2007/09/getting-into-kde-hacking.html
[21:35] <carolija> c3o:  this erver not support hacking
[21:35] <carolija> server*
[21:35] <carolija> every* *damn Keyboard*
[21:36] <c3o> wew thanks shadoze
[21:36] <c3o> and sorry carlija
[21:36] <Shadoze> I don't think he means it like that, "hacking" can also refer to taking things apart finding out how things work under certain situations and possibly finding bugs in kde.
[21:36] <c3o> :D
[21:36] <JuJuBee> I need some assitance getting the Printer Configuration app installed/running on my deskop. It is missing from K-Menu->Applicaitons->System for some reason. I think it is kcmshell4?
[21:36] <Shadoze> carolija: i'm not sure, but if installing that game knocked out kde from starting, my best bet would be that was the problem
[21:37] <Shadoze> Googling around founf quite alot of problems with it for k/ubuntu users :(
[21:37] <carolija> Shadoze:  So the game who running on gnome can be a problm too ?
[21:37] <carolija> problem*
[21:38] <Shadoze> carolija: Possibly i don;t really know i've never played it/heard about it to know, but the documentation "should" cover most things hopefully including known issues
[21:38] <carolija> I was tired whan was installing package so maybe i installed some with gnome support
[21:38] <Shadoze> gnome and kde can work pretty well together
[21:39] <Shadoze> I don't think installing gnome packages would be your problem
[21:39] <carolija> hmm, than what ?
[21:39] <carolija> I have ubuntu screen after restart :|
[21:40] <Shadoze> The ubuntu bootsplash? What about your desktop environment, has it turned to gnome, or is it still kde?
[21:40] <carolija> Shadoze:  how to see that ?
[21:41] <Shadoze> I thought you could login after removing that game?
[21:41] <carolija> Yes i am loged in now, just i see ubuntu screen
[21:42] <Shadoze> clarify on the "ubuntu" screen?
[21:43] <carolija> hmm I don't have K  (like in win "start" )  but I have Applications - Places - System
[21:43] <Shadoze> Can you assemble a printscren together?
[21:44] <carolija> wait i make a screenshoot, just a sec
[21:45] <Shadoze> Cheers
[21:49] <carolija> Shadoze:  http://carolija.eu/images/snapshot2.png
[21:50] <Shadoze> carolija: That is gnome
[21:51] <carolija> Shadoze: Before rstart I had KDE and i want KDE
[21:51] <carolija> thre is the problem
[21:51] <carolija> restart*
[21:51] <Shadoze> logout, and under session manager there should be links to the desktop environment it will use when it logs in
[21:52] <Shadoze> such as kde, failsafe, gnome, ecetera
[21:52] <Shadoze> select kde if its there
[21:53] <carolija> ok
[21:53] <carolija> just a sec
[21:53] <Shadoze> Okay
[21:54] <carolija> Shadoze:  now is KDE, BUT why i have gnome damn ?
[21:54] <carolija> and thank you Shadoze .
[21:54] <Shadoze> Well, you must have installed the gnome-desktop package
[21:54] <carolija> Ill remove it
[21:55] <carolija> if i have installed that one
[21:55] <Shadoze> Would you like guidance on how to do that?
[21:55] <carolija> I dont need it
[21:55] <carolija> apt-get remove gnome-desktop ?
[21:55] <carolija> I mean $sudo apt-get remove gnome-desktop ?
[21:56] <carolija> is that one Shadoze  ?
[21:56] <carolija> ot something else
[21:56] <carolija> or*
[21:56] <Shadoze> That should remove gnome yes, hold up
[21:56] <Shadoze> It will also remove all of gnome's dependancies
[21:58] <Shadoze> carolija: can you check if the ubuntu-desktop package is installed?
[21:58] <carolija> So i should leave it and every time just chose KDE before login
[21:58] <carolija> yes i can
[21:58] <carolija> sec
[21:58] <Walzmyn> what's the CLI command to "do someting in THIS directory"?
[21:58] <Shadoze> if you want it gone, then well remove it
[21:59] <carolija> Package ubuntu-desktop is not installed, so not removed
[21:59] <carolija> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[22:00] <carolija> So there is no ubuntu-desktop
[22:02] <Shadoze> Ahh so yo uhavn;t got all of gnome, but you've dragged in enough for a workable gnome installation :S
[22:03] <moqill> hello
[22:03] <carolija> Yes something like that look like Shadoze
[22:04] <carolija> and every time I got this, I have installed Kubuntu around 5 times and every tim the same
[22:04] <Shadoze> carolija: check if you have the package: gnome-desktop-environment
[22:04] <carolija> BUT it's ok, now i know how to get in via KDE
[22:04] <carolija> ok, sec
[22:04] <carolija> ill check it
[22:05] <carolija> Package gnome-desktop-environment is not installed, so not removed
[22:05] <carolija> Shadoze: no, there is not
[22:06] <Shadoze> oh dear erm
[22:06] <carolija> heh, never mind i will menage like this Shadoze
[22:06] <carolija> thank you anyway for that game and for time
[22:07] <Shadoze> Well this will remove all the package ubuntu-desktop would have dragged in, and you will have some of these
[22:07] <Shadoze> http://paste.ubuntu.com/195913/
[22:10] <carolija> Shadoze: Yes i have Xvnc server , so some of those make the problem
[22:10] <carolija> Never mind, ill leave it like this, so i can login every time in kde
[22:10] <carolija> just have to check it like you sad
[22:11] <Shadoze> You can set it as defualt under session manager i think :)
[22:11] <carolija> I will keep that paste for the future
[22:11] <carolija> I will see, i hope so hehe
[22:12]  * steve__ sees cat
[22:13] <Shadoze> Awesome :D hopefully it works *fingers corssed*
[22:13] <Shadoze> *crossed
[22:16] <carolija> Yep:)
[22:19] <JuJuBee> Is it possible for miltiple users to share the same calendar/address book with Kontact?
[22:22] <davide_9090> hi
[22:24] <c3o> #!/usr/bin/perl
[22:24] <c3o> #Coded By AlpHaNiX
[22:25] <mubu> Hey guys where can çi check in the log viewer to see at what time my pc was turned off? Thanks
[22:26] <carolija> c3o:  use http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[22:26] <c3o> Can't locate XML/Simple.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.8.8 /usr/local/share/perl/5.8.8 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.8 /usr/share/perl/5.8 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .)
[22:26] <c3o> how to fix taht
[22:40] <vbgunz> what do I need to get this -> "QtSql module is installed with the Sqlite interface"
[22:42] <begginer001> hi everyone
[22:42] <begginer001> i need some help
[22:42] <begginer001> for installing
[22:43] <begginer001> QT software
[22:43] <begginer001> can anyone help me
[22:43] <begginer001> ?
[22:47] <linuxbomb> What sound system does kubuntu use for default?
[22:49] <begginer001> im kunbuntu user
[22:50] <benjamin> I just updated to kde 4.2.4, and now I don't have any icons anymore (the kmenu, in the system tray, etc). the items in question are present, they just aren't visible
[22:52] <welington> ops ola galera
[22:52] <welington> aguem do brasil
[23:04] <benjamin> so i've narrowed things down a little... the "Crystal SVG" icon theme seems to be missing most of its icons. How does one go about fixing this?
[23:04] <mtbbiker99> hello
[23:05] <mtbbiker99> hello germany!!!!!!!!!!!!
[23:05] <mtbbiker99> ist jemand hier??
[23:05] <Dragnslcr> !de | mtbbiker99
[23:05] <mtbbiker99> also, ich heiße olaf 37 aus recklinghausen und du??
[23:06] <mtbbiker99> könnt ihr auch tippen? can you write?
[23:07] <mtbbiker99> english or german or or
[23:07] <mtbbiker99> nobody
[23:07] <mtbbiker99> hi gt_
[23:07] <mtbbiker99> can you write
[23:07] <mtbbiker99> withe the keybord
[23:08] <mtbbiker99> write with the keyboard
[23:08] <mtbbiker99> say hello
[23:08] <BluesKaj> !enter | mtbbiker99
[23:08] <mtbbiker99> my name is kitty
[23:09] <mtbbiker99> question: is anybody out ther?
[23:09] <benjamin> no
[23:09] <mtbbiker99> bad english, sorrry
[23:09] <Joschi> *g*
[23:09] <mtbbiker99> what can I do here?
[23:09] <benjamin> !de | mtbbiker99
[23:09] <gt_> hola
[23:09] <gt_> saludos a todos
[23:09] <mtbbiker99> dos no ubuntu
[23:10] <BluesKaj> !es | gt_
[23:10] <pubuntu> hello
[23:10] <mtbbiker99> I hate bill Gates, free is better
[23:10] <mtbbiker99> english, please
[23:10] <BluesKaj> !hate
[23:11] <mtbbiker99> ok, I dont like........
[23:11] <gt_> gracias
[23:11] <BluesKaj> da nada
[23:11] <mtbbiker99> where do you came frome exaxtly?
[23:11] <BluesKaj> err de nada
[23:11] <mtbbiker99> dont leave, write
[23:12] <mtbbiker99> hello german!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[23:12] <mtbbiker99> Is noboady "ubuntu"
[23:12] <mtbbiker99> menschlich
[23:13] <mtbbiker99> konservation, please
[23:13] <BluesKaj> mtbbiker99, pls stop these questions ...if you have a question then state your problem
[23:13] <donder> Hey guys, is it possible to have an external usb hdd with multiple partitions? thanks
[23:13] <mtbbiker99> dann schreibe ich mir selbst einen Brief.........
[23:13] <BluesKaj> !de | mtbbiker99
[23:14] <mtbbiker99> Yes, no problem
[23:14] <benjamin> if anyone cares, i fixed my icon issue... when I updated to 4.2.4, the oxygen icon theme was not installed. I brought it in manually using adept. problem solved
[23:14] <mtbbiker99> wich OS do you have
[23:15] <benjamin> donder: i've done it in XP... but i've never tried with linux
[23:15] <mtbbiker99> tried it with UBUNTU
[23:15] <BluesKaj> mtbbiker99, can't you take a hint ? go to the german chat pls
[23:15] <mtbbiker99> deutsch, kein problem
[23:15] <donder> benjamin, i can i have one of those partitions bootable, like with grub on it?
[23:16] <benjamin> donder: i can't think of a reason why you couldn't... Many mobos nowadays ship with the ability to boot to usb devices
[23:16] <donder> benjamin, yeah i know but i thought the multiple partitions might mess it up...
[23:18] <benjamin> donder: if you're booting to it, it should look to the boot sector first, aka grub. In my experience, grub handles multiple partitions well
[23:18] <benjamin> donder: again though, i've never done this... i just don't see a reason why it couldn't be done
[23:32] <sparkart> Hi.... I am having a graphics display issue.
[23:33] <sparkart> http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/9457/snapshot2j.png
[23:35] <rgarcia> hi all, does anybody know a program to scan documents w/ scanner?
[23:36] <TMKCodes> scan documents w/ scanner how's that possible?
[23:36] <rgarcia> ops sorry...with the scanner
[23:37] <donder> Anyone know the minimum size of a usb flash drive to install ubuntu onto it with the startup disk creator? thanks
[23:37] <TMKCodes> donder the startup disk creator makes copies the installer.iso into the usb disk
[23:38] <donder> so like 700 MB?
[23:38] <TMKCodes> donder: Yeah
[23:39] <TMKCodes> donder: it works like burning the .iso into CD
[23:39] <rgarcia> !xsane
[23:42] <donder> Hey guys I just created 2 partitions on my usb hdd with the partition editor (gparted) in ubuntu. Gparted sees the two partitions but in the nautilus explorer "Computer" I can only see one partition.. What should i do.. Thanks
[23:46] <beachside> hello, I just switched to kubuntu and i'm digging it so far, but i can't prink anything. It is a Lexmark z730. Lexmark doesn't have the model on their site, and i've searched fourms and can't find anything. I do have the install disk that came with the printer.
[23:46] <beachside> *print
[23:55] <BluesKaj> beachside, i hate to be the bearer of bad news , but i don't know of any lexmark linux drivers ...yet
[23:56] <nii> am new on ubuntu and irc
[23:56] <nii> any body wanna help out?