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tjaaltonSarvatt: let's just default to nouveau and stop worrying about nv :)08:22
Sarvattnv seems so nice and easy to use though, who really uses nouveau or nv outside of the initial install or on a livecd? :D only thing -nv is missing is 8xxx and newer IGP support right now. nouveau is kind of a pain in the butt to get going right, have to disable aiglx and make sure nvidiafb isnt loaded 09:05
Sarvattmaybe i'm just blind but i'm looking at the nouveau code and it looks like it supports even less than -nv does on the mobile side, maybe thats why fedora has the 7xxx IGP patch for -nv :D09:06
tjaaltonthe snapshot in karmic is two months old09:10
tjaaltoni don't think fedora uses nv at all09:11
tjaaltonsince theis server defaults to nouveau09:11
tjaaltontheir, even09:11
Sarvatthttp://patches.ubuntu.com/x/xserver-xorg-video-nv/extracted/104_geforce_6600gt_9100mg.patch  -- the 9100M G part of that *has* to be bogus, theres more places than just the pci id table you need to edit to add new IGPs10:08
hyperairhow very strange. i went to bathe and when i came out, my notebook screen blanked out completely11:11
Duke`how do I enable KMS for intel? I have kernel 2.6.30-9. Is it still i915.modeset=1 in grub's kernel command line?12:16
Sarvattadd options i915 modeset=1 to /etc/modprobe.d/i915.conf12:23
Duke`ok, I tried  i915.modeset=1 but Xorg failed to start and then screen all garbled12:25
Duke`ah I see, it tried to load i810 driver... :x12:27
Sarvattwow, 731MB of updates since i've turned this machine on last when 2.6.30-5.6 came out :D going to give nouveau KMS a shot now12:30
Duke`ok, I still had to create an xorg.conf file and specify "intel" for the driver, because it still wanted to load i810 >_<12:38
Sarvattyuck, lost all my brightness hotkeys on this lappy too and its nvidia so not KMS's fault :D i need to build gnome-power-manager on a PPA with hal enabled again, dont get battery readings on the netbook when its disabled and dont get brightness keys on the other12:51
Sarvatthttp://pastebin.com/m20b737fc  -- is that how Xorg.0.log is supposed to look with a deleted xorg.conf?12:59
Duke`I don't think so, because it fails :D13:00
SarvattI mean the whole (==) Using default built-in configuration (39 lines)13:00
Sarvattgoing to delete mine and reboot :)13:01
Duke`I think the generated conf is quite correct, it works without KMS13:02
Duke`but I wonder why it still tries i810, hasn't this driver been removed?13:02
Sarvatthmm looks like i forgot to make a nouveau-kernel-source package for edgers, trying to build the old nouveau modules for a kernel with it built in :D i should drop the dep on nouveau-kernel-source from it13:05
Sarvattmaybe the dkms install will fail because its already built into the kernel13:07
Sarvattso far so good, got a KMS nouveaufb at least. dkms is trying to build the modules though13:11
Sarvatthave to manually define nouveau in xorg.conf because it defaults to nv and vesa, ahh13:17
Sarvattapw: everythings working great with your 2.6.30-8.9~kms2 kernel with nouveau KMS. http://sarvatt.com/downloads/nouveau-kms.txt13:26
Sarvattthink i might try to start packaging up nouveau gallium now13:27
apwSarvatt, good news.  the later kms kernels don't have nouveau at the moment, its keeps colliding with upstream.  this makes it a pain to get into the same kernel.  should resolve itself onces radeon kms merges.13:30
apwprobablaly will make separate kernels for kms for the moment13:30
Sarvattsorry it took so long for me to get around to try it!14:01
Sarvattguess i do have some problems with it looking at the logs, everythings working fine though14:01
Sarvattthink thats just from having the module on top of it being built in, rebuilding it with relaxed depends now so i can get rid of nouveau-kernel-source14:03
Sarvattthats strange Duke`.. http://sarvatt.com/downloads/Xorg.0.log.txt15:22
Sarvattlooks the same at least15:22
* Sarvatt takes that back, just looked harder15:24
Sarvattoh i didnt pick my kernel, i thought i was in vesa it was so slow sheesh15:37
tjaaltonDuke`: have a logfile?15:53
tjaaltonit only tries i810 if intel fails15:54
Sarvattoh you silly kexec-tools..15:54
Sarvatthe posted his log http://pastebin.com/m20b737fc15:54
Sarvattfbdev..15:54
tjaaltonthat's pretty stupid :)15:56
tjaaltonso is there a livecd to try the nvidia kms?15:59
tjaaltonI'll try it on my desktop which has a GF8600GT15:59
Sarvattnope, we had some problems with the livecd scripts that we havent fixed yet.. all you need is apw's nouveau kernel+libdrm/ddx off edgers though, it wont really hurt anything to need a livecd unless you're on jaunty/windows or something :) 16:14
Sarvatt if anything you can just grab the drm from edgers (kernel and ddx are both abi 14 so you need the newer drm than karmics), and use the debian/rules get-orig-source for a git checkout of nouveau and drop the depends on linux-nouveau-source. not sure if i should upload a nouveau where it only recommends the kernel source to edgers :D16:15
tjaaltonhmm ok16:16
tjaaltonmaybe I'l just upgrade to karmic once it's confirmed that the video abi won't change16:16
Sarvattat the rate 1.6 branch is going i'd be surprised if they even decide that or put out a rc1 before october :D16:19
tjaaltonthey still have a couple of days to rc1 according to the schedule16:21
Sarvatthttp://lists.x.org/archives/xorg-devel/2009-May/000993.html16:25
tjaaltonoh, a month..16:26
apwtjaalton, the nouveau kernel may be MIA right now in my ppa's am pushing an updated one to a new Nouveau specific PPA, which should be built in a couple of hours16:28
tjaaltonapw: ok, thanks16:32
Sarvattits impossible to figure out where stuff is going straight to ppa.launchpad.net/apw now :D16:32
tjaaltonlooks like the radeon kms will be merged in .3116:33
Sarvattfound it!16:34
Sarvatthttp://ppa.launchpad.net/apw/daily/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux/16:34
Sarvatt2.6.30-8.9~kms216:34
apwno idea why that is still there :)  but that is the old one16:35
apwSarvatt, i have added titles to the ppa's now at least16:35
Sarvattoops 8.10 sorry16:36
apwSarvatt, ok the updates ATI+Intel is built in: https://edge.launchpad.net/~apw/+archive/daily16:37
Sarvattpoor build machines :D16:39
apwyep, giving them a workout today16:39
Sarvattoh i'll just binary copy, its going to 2 ppas16:39
apwok16:40
apwSarvatt, ok kmsnouveau is building (an update to the latest tip there) is going on in: https://edge.launchpad.net/~apw/+archive/blue16:41
apwshould be about 2 hours i'd guess16:42
Duke`Sarvatt: we don't have the same xserver version17:10
Sarvattyeah, nor the same kernel, i915 is built in and kms the default so that might be changing things17:15
Sarvattahhhhh ok its really really important not to install nouveau-kernel-source with the KMS kernel :D17:18
hyperairSarvatt: have you been noticing that when i915 is loaded (with KMS on), usplash disappears, and you see a black screen until X starts?17:18
Sarvattnope17:19
hyperair=(17:19
hyperairmaybe i'm the only one then17:19
Sarvatti have it built into my kernel so its high res the whole way :D17:19
hyperairblargh!17:19
Sarvattusplash doesnt work in full rez though, the throbber/progress bar doesnt display17:19
hyperairwait a sec, you mean i915 built into the kernel, rather than as a module?17:19
Sarvattyeah17:20
hyperairaah i see17:20
Duke`resume after suspend to ram froze keyboard, mouse and video17:21
Duke`with intel KMS17:21
Duke`is it expected?17:21
Sarvattwouldnt surprise me on jaunty, it's pm-utils doesnt have any of the KMS hooks17:23
Duke`ok17:24
Duke`not really a problem for now, since I have hardware problems with power and suspend (the computer wakes up itself randomly...)17:25
Sarvattya could just use karmic's pm-utils though, its got the hooks to not flicker when you suspend, and it removes all the video quirks in KMS mode that are probably crashing you :D17:26
Sarvattgood to see gallium glxgears almost started to open a window before putting the pc into a gpu reset loop :D17:52
hyperairalmost huh18:10
Sarvatt9 reboots later i give up on anything outside of glxinfo18:17
hyperairheheh18:19
hyperairglxinfo actually worked eh18:19
hyperair=p18:19
hyperairreboots really drive me up the wall18:19
hyperairespecially those hard locks that screw up the file system enough to force a fsck18:20
hyperairit takes almost 20 minutes to fsck my /home18:20
hyperairugh18:20
hyperairi just sit around and fall asleep waiting18:20
hyperairthank god for gdm sounds18:20
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Sarvattwow.. i got 1 hour 14 minutes on my 4.5 hour battery with nouveau KMS20:45
Sarvattany problems with it tormod?23:41
tormodthe new kms CD works well23:49
Sarvatthttp://sarvatt.com/downloads/xorg-edgers-0.14kms-i386.iso23:58

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