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IppatsuMan!ask | nii00:00
ubottunii: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)00:00
niii installed skype on my ubuntu box but when i try to make a call it says there is a prob with my sound00:01
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pacowenas00:11
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niihow do i register my nick00:20
nii?00:20
Dragnslcrnii- /msg nickserv help00:20
niiwhat does "/msg nickserv help" mean00:22
Shadozegives you help using that command00:23
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Shadozedo you want to register your nickname?00:25
niiyes00:25
Shadozenii: type: /msg nickserv register your_password your_email_address00:25
Shadozedon't worry your password or email will NOT be shown to anyone else00:26
niiaqugwsdqerqu00:28
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D1k3Nomeg?00:41
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niilistchans00:43
kaddiHi, I have about 20 gig of unallocated place that I would like to add to my ubuntu home partition. Can I do that with gparted?00:44
Shadozevia resize, yes00:45
kaddiI have to resize the home-partition? is there any risk for the other partitions to get corrupted or overwritten?00:46
ShadozeI;ve done it before, and not had problems00:46
Shadozewith grparted, that is00:46
Shadoze*parted00:47
kaddihmm, the resize option is greyed out. But I started it with sudo privileges... what did I do wrong?00:48
nii##linux00:48
valgaavkaddi:  maybe it's mouted ? :P00:52
kaddivalgaav... yeah figured that out all by myself as well... I won't even start asking how to unmount my home-partition and do that some other time with a live-cd ;)00:52
kaddisometimes I ask before thinking ;)00:53
xnoxare packages in kubuntu-backports 4.3 beta already?00:53
D1k3Nfuck, i can`t access my gmail acount.01:01
Shadoze=-[01:01
D1k3N:(01:03
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ajavidhello01:22
ajavidI can't seem to find a link for 8.04 lts iso01:22
ajavidalso, is it possible to easily get 2.6.29 kernel into 8.04?01:23
snaxdownload: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download01:24
snaxthere u can choose between 9.04 and 8.04 lts01:24
snax2.6.29 is still not in 9.0401:25
snaxwhy do u want a not-released kernel in a stable lts ubuntu version?01:25
ajavidare you serious?01:26
ajavidlatest stable linux kernel is .3001:26
ajavidwhy would I want it ?01:27
snaxyes, latest stable, but not for ubuntu ;)01:27
ajavidbecause it has support for ext401:27
ajavidI need LTS + ext4 support01:27
ajavidanyway it doesn't matter01:30
Dragnslcrajavid- Kubuntu 8.04 is not LTS01:31
ajavidwhy?01:32
DragnslcrBecause KDE 3.5 won't be supported by the KDE developers for the amount of time that Kubuntu would require, and KDE4 wasn't even close to ready yet01:33
kaddigood night everyone :)01:34
ajavidis 9.04 stable enough to use ?01:34
xnoxajavid: YES01:35
DragnslcrIt works fine for me01:35
ajaviddoes your kde4 crashing alot?01:35
DragnslcrYour experience may be different, depending on your hardware and what software you want to install01:36
davidjheinrichdoes anyone here us GIMP?01:36
DragnslcrI don't think I've had KDE crash in quite a while01:36
snaxim using 9.04 with kde4.2 the system is stable, kde4.2 still have some bugs, especially dolphin crashes with a lot of files (400+ in a folder) and bluetooth.. but i still have ext301:36
fabiohi my friends01:37
snaxbluetooth only when i shut down bluetooth.. now i use konquerer as filebrowser and since i use konq.. no crashes01:38
xnoxajavid: My KDE 4.2 is very stable but I'm using 2.6.30 kernel and Xorg-edgers PPA.01:41
TheJohnbbl01:44
zelharHello, is there a problem with the screen display power saver, cause I can't get my screen to turn off automatically02:20
myselfdoes anyone know if there is a .deb or repository anywhere for the latest release of Ktorrent ( 3.2.2 )02:42
xp-killerhow do i do a video of my desktop?02:43
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xp-killerhow do i do a video of my desktop?02:46
snaxu mean just simple replay a video-file ?02:52
xp-killerhuh no like record the desktop02:53
xp-killersnax:02:53
xp-killeri want to do a video of my desktop02:53
snaxhmm, i don't know02:54
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jjpieswhats up people03:00
xp-killeri want to do a video of my desktop03:11
xp-killerhow can i record a video of my desktop?03:11
D1k3Ntengo una konsulta03:13
D1k3Nkiero krgar una sala de chat en firefox k utiliza flash pero no se krga bien. K sera?03:14
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josh_hey03:18
josh_anybody available to help with sound problems?03:18
D1k3Nyeah?03:22
RainStormHello guys, I wanted to install Kubuntu on Raid 0 Setup as dual boot with Vista 64 bit, I have read some stuff but it seems too hard for me but i wnat to do this really bad and get to learn linux is there a better/easier way to accomplish this?03:28
DragnslcrRainStorm- if it's true hardware RAID, Kubuntu will see the array as a single drive03:29
DragnslcrRainStorm- if it's software RAID, it's a little trickier03:29
Dragnslcr!raid03:29
ubottuTips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto03:29
DragnslcrLook at the FakeRaidHowto03:30
DragnslcrAs for the dual-boot part, as long as you make sure you install Kubuntu after Windows, it should pretty much take care of itself (Kubuntu will detect the Windows installation and add it to the grub bootloader)03:32
RainStormok well..03:33
RainStormI tried the boot cd03:33
RainStormand i clicked on install.. it visually show me how my hd is divided, etc its all greyed out and only option it gives me is fresh install03:34
DragnslcrDo you have space on the disk to create partitions for Kubuntu?03:35
RainStormyeah03:36
RainStorm981GB free03:36
RainStormunless it want more :p03:36
DragnslcrBut is that already allocated to a partition?03:39
wizardslovakhello03:44
wizardslovakwhat plugin should i install to play WMP files?03:44
wizardslovak!restricted formats03:46
ubottuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/musicvideophotos/C/video.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats03:46
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wizardslovak"unknown plugin (aplication/x-ms-wmp)"03:48
D1k3Nmmm03:51
D1k3Ndid you try in google?03:51
mikekapwhy is there only 1 p in that application? typo i hope?03:53
D1k3NO.o03:53
D1k3Ncya03:53
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Da[r]Th_Be{r}ThoWenas Noches04:10
Da[r]Th_Be{r}Thojoin #Debian04:10
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sml1226advantage to running 64-bit?04:32
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sml1226Built in compositor? I can't run Compiz on my current machine04:46
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DragnslcrYes, KDE4 does its own compositing04:49
khamargood localtime04:57
khamarvery impressed with 4.2.90 (recent install)!04:58
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myselfdoes anyone know if there is a .deb or repository anywhere for the latest release of Ktorrent ( 3.2.2 )05:09
xiaketmyself: you can just try 4.2.90, the ktorrent shipped with it is of version 3.2.205:14
myselfthe ktorrent that i got was 3.2.1 and the one in the repository is 3.2.105:15
xiaketmyself: in my case i just switched to karmic05:15
myselfhmmm05:15
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kabdotinfoIs that right? Vanilla Kubuntu 9.04, KPackageKit can't search for programs, have to update it for it to work?05:31
FeasibilityStudy? Kpackagekit can seach for packages05:36
kabdotinfoLive CD, start KPackageKit, doesn't find anything when searching. It does find software updates though.05:37
halberdwhen I click in most parts of a window it selects the window but doesn't raise it05:46
halberdI want it to be raised, but it looks like the options under window settings are already set to raise it05:46
halberdbut it doesn't raise unless I click the menu bar or border05:46
halberdin fact not even the menu bar, just the border05:47
halberdhow can this be fixed?05:49
halberdspecifically under settings-window behavior, I have "click raise active window" checked05:49
halberdand in the window actions tab of that, I have that the left button is supposed to activate, raise, and pass click05:50
halberdin fact not only does it not raise the window it doesn't even pass focus05:50
halberdunless I click the border05:50
halberdalso in the "focus" tab the policy is set to "click to focus"05:51
halberdwhat is causing this situation and how can it be fixed?05:51
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anr78is the dual screen support in Jaunty any good? last time I tried I could not do a gui-config of my display layout07:10
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oscar__salut a tout j'aimerais savoir comment je peut activer compiz fusion07:16
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drcodehi all07:37
drcodecan I connect kubuntu to ext. monitor?07:38
drcodeI have gforce 610007:38
ActionParsnipconnect it07:41
ActionParsnipthen run: kdesudo nvidia-settings07:41
ActionParsnipyou will need to have setup nvidia drivers07:41
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adamhi my kopete message input window is black and i have forgot how to change the colors08:46
adamcan anyone help me08:48
adamoh and also, does anyone know how to fix a broken backlight08:48
adami am using kubuntu 7.1008:49
adamdoes anyone know how to change text window colours?08:52
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adamdoes anyone know how to change text window colours?09:08
ideapadheloo everyone09:09
ideapadi am a Chinese09:09
ideapadmy english is so porly09:10
ideapadplease forgevie me09:10
adami think there is a chinese kubuntu chatroom09:10
ideapadreally?09:10
ideapadwhere?09:11
hateball!cn09:19
ubottuFor Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道: #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw  或者 #ubuntu-hk09:19
hateballwould have done the trick09:19
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* oscar__ is away: Gone away for now09:35
adam!7.1009:35
ubottuUbuntu 7.10 (Gutsy Gibbon) was the seventh release of Ubuntu. End Of Life: April 18th, 2009. See !eol and !upgrade for more details.09:35
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amundsenhi11:20
amundsenis it possible to change colors in kde4 panel ?11:20
jadoi'm still trying to sync my clock could someone help me please ? i've tried sudo ntpdate-debian ntp.ubuntu.com but that tells me : "no server suitable for synchronization found"11:27
makdaknifejado: try `sudo ntpdate pool.ntp.org`11:36
makdaknifejado:  if that doesn't work, you may have a network issue... try ping pool.ntp.org11:36
makdaknifejado: if the ping succeeds... you possibly have a firewall problem...11:37
jadomakdaknife: ntpdate does not work but ping does11:39
jadomakdaknife: it may be coming from the fact that i'm in a university11:39
makdaknifehmmm possible... try `sudo ntpdate -u pool.ntp.org`11:42
makdaknifejado: never used that version of the command... but apparently it uses unprivileged ports11:42
makdaknifejado: alternatively your uni may have its own ntp service that you can query11:44
jadooh '-u' worked thanks11:44
makdaknifejado: cool... I learned something :-)11:45
jadome too :d11:46
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VmkiceHmm, has anyone tried to dual boot Kubuntu and Windows 7 yet?12:17
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VmkiceHmm, has anyone tried to dual boot Kubuntu and Windows 7 yet? I'm going to try to in a second...12:23
VmkiceAs soon as I find my W7 install disk o_o12:23
Vmkiceugg I don't know who regged my name o_o12:24
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SolidLiq!ping12:32
ubottuping yourself ;-) really the diodes all down my left side are sore12:32
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shashundf12:33
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vbgunzI am getting a new hard drive. how can I reliably ghost, mirror or image my old hard drive onto the new one?12:36
vbgunzanyone know what the QtSql module is for Kubuntu?12:37
oscar__how can i get korvesation in french12:38
KyleSIts quiet,12:41
KyleS*installer error again*12:47
vbgunzanyone know what the PyQt4 python package has no module for QtSql?12:56
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lokaiIs there a way to get konsole to ask for confirmation before logging out of a session? I hit crtl+D accidently wayyy too often13:43
adamdoes anyone know how to run Anarchy Online under wine13:54
Piciadam: Your best bet would be to ask about it in #winehq13:55
adamthx13:55
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jadohi, i have a problem with kate (and i've tried on #kate) : when i change the default indentation mode in the panel "Configure Kate", it doesn't change the indentation mode of the file that i've already opened, even though i reopen them14:09
adamhi im trying to access the funcom server and i am not familiar with irc, can anyone help14:09
adamno need14:11
jado(i just had to delete .kde/share/apps/kate/metainfos to make kate forget about the indentation mode of the previous files i've opened)14:13
Dragnslcrjado- I think the indentation mode only determines how to add space/tabs as you're writing. I don't think it goes back and adjusts existing text14:18
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jadoDragnslcr: yes sure14:20
jadoDragnslcr: what i meant is that even though i change the default indentation mode (None/Normal/C), the indentation mode of the already opened file does not change "for the future" ; it stayed at None because Kate remember for each file you open the Indentation mode you used14:22
defrysk /j #ubuntu+114:26
Dragnslcrjado- I dunno. I just did a quick check, and with a new file, if I change the default indentation, it does change the mode selected in Tools -> Indentation. Maybe if you've changed the mode for the file in the past, changing the default doesn't change the file (which would make sense)14:26
jadoDragnslcr: you're right i don't know what happened14:27
jadoDragnslcr: yes maybe it come from the fact that one day i've changed the indentation width14:29
jadocomes*14:29
BluesKajHowdy all14:33
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KAINhi everyone14:38
KAINanyone help please ,i'm running squid2.7Stable3 on ubuntu server 9.04 with cisco vxr7200, i need to setup wccp v2 between squid box and rhe router14:38
KAINanyone help please ,i'm running squid2.7Stable3 on ubuntu server 9.04 with cisco vxr7200, i need to setup wccp v2 between squid box and the router14:42
geniiKAIN: You may want to enquire in #ubuntu-server14:42
KAINthanks genii14:43
KAIN:)14:43
KAINi will14:43
usuariobuenas14:45
oele2how do you change power settings ?14:50
oele2I would like nothing to turn of if I close the lid of my laptop14:50
babalusystem settings -> advanced -> power management14:51
babaluthough i don't see a thing to change what happen when we close the laptop14:52
oele2babalu: I don't have power management in the "advanced" tab of system settings14:52
babaluoh actually i found it14:53
babaluwhat version of kde do you have ?14:53
babaluoele2:  ?14:54
oele24.1.414:54
oele2(sorry had to start new app, system settings doesn't have a menu bar)14:54
babaluok14:55
babalui have kde 4.2 so maybe that's why you don't see power management14:55
berot3hi, i have problem with amarok in kubuntu. amarok apears for a sceond and than crashes... i dont really understand the errors, could some1 of u pls tell me whats wrong? this is14:58
berot3what the terminsal says: http://pastebin.com/f1240464814:59
berot3and this says kcrash:  http://pastebin.com/f5bbb5e1714:59
HeliomanceIf Amarok 2 can't find the lyrics to a song, how do you enter them manually?15:02
berot3cant u just add it like any other ID3-tag?15:03
Heliomance*blink* Why didn't I think of that?15:03
berot3:)15:04
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HeliomanceIncidentally, what database does it pull the lyrics from?15:06
kubuI have two sound card in my pc, one Mob & the other PCI; 'am trying to configure asoundconf to change the Pci sound card into default, but there is no response when i click "asoundconf list" any way i should try please...15:08
TheGrammarFreakWhat are the commands for starting and stopping the kde screensaver?15:15
wangyuanhello evreyone longtime no see,hiahia15:16
wangyuanhello15:19
wangyuananybody here15:20
TheGrammarFreakMy PC crashed. Does anyone know the commands for15:21
TheGrammarFreakOops15:21
geniiwangyuan: Yes. Do you have some support question?15:21
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berot3genii: can u help me with my crashing amarok?15:25
geniiberot3: I already looked at your error pastebin but I have no immediate ideas on your problem.15:25
geniiberot3: Perhaps to file a big report at Launchpad15:26
genii*bug15:26
berot3genii: oh ok thx, i already googled for it... ill maybe google a bit more :p . yes ill post it to lp15:27
tsimpsonthere's also #amarok15:27
geniiAh, nice tip, forgot they had a channel.15:27
berot3aaah :) ill go there to thx15:28
tzangergood morning, does anyone know why the updates manager seems to default to remembering my password? I always hav eto uncheck "remember my credentials" ...15:36
eseI have two sound card in my pc, one Mob & the other PCI; 'am trying to configure asoundconf to change the Pci sound card into default, but there is no response when i click "asoundconf list" any way i should try please.15:47
RickXanyone know of anyplace besides kde-look to get kde4 styles?15:49
Dragnslcrtzanger- that seems to be the normal behavior. I'm not sure why15:50
sumanhi....  i know this bug is known.... just wonder if it has been resolved....15:52
sumanxorg is eating up all my memory in my jaunty loaded dell inspiron 152515:52
Shaan7suman: all == how much ?15:52
sumanactually it is the cpu , 91%15:53
Shaan7suman: check out system monitor and see which process is using what % of CPU15:53
sumanmemory  is around 5.915:54
sumanXorg is using 41% of cpu15:55
sumanand 165 M memory15:55
sumani just did a clean install yesterday. and it has been painfully slow at times15:56
Shaan7suman: thats strange15:57
sumanShaan7: I know it is to something with the graphics driver.... hoping someone has encountered this earlier and knows of a fix15:58
Shaan7suman: whats the graphic card you have ?15:58
DragnslcrProbably the well-known issues with the Intel drivers15:58
ahoxsuman: The intel graphics card is kind of buggy in the new ubuntu15:58
DragnslcrI'm sure the forums have plenty of discussion about it15:58
sumanit is  Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller15:59
sumanthe forums did have a lot of discussions.. but no clear cut solution16:00
Shaan7suman: ok, lots of my friends have a 1520 but they have no problem, wonder whats wrong with 152516:01
genii!intel16:01
ubottuUbuntu 9.04 has a known regression for some Intel graphics support. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/IntelPerformance and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1130582 for more information.16:01
Shaan7suman: and btw, thank god you don't have a inspiron 1545 (new inspiron model). it sucks16:01
tzangeryes, it also has a regression for volume control on some toshibas16:01
sumanShaan7: hmmm.. i am sure 1520 and 1525 have the same graphics card...16:01
ahoxsuman: That's because there is no clear-cut solution yet. You can downgrade your xorg etc, but this is rather annoying, too16:02
ahoxI would recommend to just go with the old ubuntu for now16:02
sumanis there an easy way to downgrade....16:03
sumani have already spent quite some time in upgrading and instaling my apps and configuring16:03
ahoxsuman: If you /home is on a seperate partition, its a breeze. Otherwise you have to backup your home first. Of course all the upgrades/installs will be lost16:04
sumani have everything in the same partition...  guess a lot of work ahead for me..16:05
sumanbut is the graphics card problem non existent in kubunto 8.X16:06
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ahoxsuman: yes16:09
eseHi, BluesKaj: about the configure with asoundconf to change the Pci sound card into a default, I tried "asound-set-default-card (soundcardname), but it tells to check "asoundconf list" first. but there is no response when run click "asoundconf list" any other ways i should try or is should do.16:09
BluesKajese, I beleive you need to install alsa-utils16:11
esethanks for your response BluesKaj; but i did check with it and it is installed and being latest16:12
eseand with the BIOS setup, alone. It didn't work out.16:13
BluesKajese , have you checked in system settings/media since you changed the bios ?16:15
BluesKajese, also make sure you have libasound2 installed16:16
eseyes, libsound2 and libsound2-plugins are installed.16:17
esealso without the bious modification. Only the pulseAudio & HA Intel (AD198x Analog) are shown in system settings >multimedia.16:18
BluesKajno pci souncard listed ? ...hmmm16:19
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BluesKajese, did you list the pci card as first in the list or disable the onboard or both in the BIOS ? (depends on which BIOS you have)16:21
esewell, i disable the onboard only. and there was no asoundconfig list after loging16:23
esebut now without any change to the BIOS, the asoundconf list shows only "Intel"16:23
BluesKajdid the pci card show up in the bios ?16:23
eseOn that thing i couldn't find that.16:24
eseBut because i dual boot with winXP, the pci works with XP and not the onboard; but when i boot with kubuntu it happens the viseversa16:25
kaddiheya... I'm having trouble with FF on kubuntu should I ask here or on their support-channel?16:25
TheGrammarFreakDoes anyone know the commands for starting and stopping the kde screensaver?16:25
eseand i am tired to change the output line everytime i change OS.16:25
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kaddianyhow here goes, if someone knows a solution I would be grateful: I've been using FF for a long time, but ever since 3.0.10 (and now 11) it won't shut down correctly. I can close it, but when I try to start it again, it'll tell me that FF is still running and needs to be closed. The only thing that seems to work is "killall firefox". I tried the FF safemode and a new profile fpr FF but the problem remains16:27
TheGrammarFreakFF did does that to me occasioanlly, I have no idea why. You might want to try their channel, I just left it for about 5 mins and it worked again16:28
BluesKajkaddi , you may have a conflict , if your coming off flash heavy sites, then the plugins don't all quit16:30
DragnslcrYeah, sounds like it's just being slow at exiting16:31
kaddiBluesKaj: it never quits... even if I only opened http://start.ubuntu.com/9.04/ it will not close properly. It doesn't work in safe-mode either, which I thought meant that plugins and addons aren't loaded16:31
DragnslcrI did finally figure out the problem with closing a tab that had Flash in it16:31
kaddiDragnslcr what was the problem?16:32
DragnslcrAmarok messing up the sound system16:32
kaddigood to know :)16:33
DragnslcrI managed to figure out that the problem only happened after I had played something in Amarok, and exiting Amarok fixed it16:33
DragnslcrApparently it's already a known issue with the sound system16:33
MamarokDragnslcr: Amarok doesn't mess any sound system, it doesn't even handle sound itself!16:35
Mamarokthat's Phonon doing it16:35
DragnslcrMamarok- yup, sounds about right16:35
Mamarokand flash is creating sound problems galore16:35
DragnslcrOnly sound problems? Wow, Flash is getting better, huh16:36
kaddilol16:36
Mamarokthe worst is pulseaudio, sick of debugging 50+ users with pulseaudio killing all sound in 9.04 :(16:37
chrissshi16:37
chrisssi got a problem with amarok 2.1 on jaunty16:37
chrisssi get the following message when i start amarok: Error message was:  "org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply" : " "Message did not receive a reply (timeout by message bus)" "16:37
chrissshowever, i can start amarok from ANY other user account but mine (which is the super user-capable one)16:38
kaddiok, when I switch between different profiles. The first time I close firefox it closes with a segmentation fault, afterwards it's not closing at all. This happens on both the new vierge profile and my usual customized one...16:39
kaddiis there an easy way to learn more about the segmentation fault?16:39
DragnslcrMamarok- does Ubuntu have any sound systems that aren't broken at this point?16:40
johanvrtoss416:40
MamarokDragnslcr: well, in the Ubuntu base wouldn't force Pulseaudio on all of us we wouldn't have problems in KDE4 :(16:40
DragnslcrHeh16:41
DragnslcrWhat does KDE4 want to use by default, phonon?16:41
johanvrti installed kubuntu and afaIk pulse audio was not part of it16:41
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superboyhelp http://paste.ubuntu.com/196404/16:49
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TheGrammarFreakHow would I use the xscreensaver instead of the kde screensaver?16:50
geniisuperboy: "servo failure" would seem to hint at some hardware problem16:51
superboywhat kind of hardware?16:52
geniisuperboy: cd/dvd likely16:54
TheGrammarFreakHow would I use the xscreensaver instead of the kde screensaver?16:54
geniiTheGrammarFreak: Maybe see http://www.jwz.org/xscreensaver/faq.html#kde      ..I haven't tried this yet myself however16:55
jadoThe following packages have been kept back:16:56
jado  kdeplasma-addons16:56
jadohi, i'm trying to upgrade to kde 4.3 (i think i succeeded) but i have this message when i do apt-get upgrade (or aptitude safe-upgrade)16:56
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superboy_help new error http://paste.ubuntu.com/196404/17:44
eagles0513875im having some issues with clam av and the klamav gui for kde. im trying to update the definitions and it is saying the process died unexpectedly did you manually kill it. i didnt touch any processes any ideas what i could be missing or as to why its crashing17:47
geniisuperboy_: Again. "14 BraseroGrowisofs stderr: :-[ WRITE@LBA=30b30h failed with SK=4h/TRACKING SERVO FAILURE]: Input/output error"   <-- tracking servo error. "servo" is the hardware piece on your drive which moves the read/write head around17:49
eagles0513875genii: any idea as to whats happening to me and clamav17:51
jan___hi all17:51
eagles0513875hi jan___17:52
jan___does anybody have a media server like jinzora or ampache running?17:52
geniieagles0513875: Not offhand, sorry17:53
eagles0513875its ok genii17:53
jan___i'm asking, because it has to import the media17:53
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jan___from a local dir and then www-data needs read acces17:53
jan___this is unsecure, isnt it?17:53
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jan___hmm?17:56
eagles0513875i would think it would also need execute rights18:01
eagles0513875im not sure you got me tempted to do that now jan18:01
bigoshello, i've got one problem - i can't get my kubuntu to connect to the wireless encrypted network. it does connect to the unencrypted ones with no problem, though. I am using this kde4 plasma widget thingie. Is that common problem, or do I need to be more specific?18:03
jan___:) yes i know it needs also +x rights18:03
jan___but isnt that unsecure to give www-data rights to all my data?18:04
jan___what if the apache gets cracked (bugs or what)18:04
trappistjan___: I don't make all my stuff owned by www-data - I just make sure www-data can *read* it, and add write permissions in the few places I need it18:06
jan___ok18:07
jan___so there is no chance to  break into my system?18:08
Newbee_hello everybody18:10
Newbee_I have a problem with okular and KDE 4.3 beta. Okular doesn't print pdfs correct anymore. It does move the page to print towards the left bottom corner and on the right side and the top it leaves free space#18:11
Newbee_I don't know how to fix that. It's pretty annoying because i have to print pdfs rather often and okular is my pdf-program.18:12
Newbee_It would be nice if somone of you could help me18:13
MamarokNewbee_: it prints fine for me, maybe you should check your printer settings18:13
trappistjan___: there's no chance to break into your system if you take the networking hardware out of it, turn it off and bury it in the backyard.  other than that, there's really no such thing as a completely secure system.  but you can reduce the risk a lot by just being smart, like you're doing now by caring about file permissions.18:13
Newbee_Mamarok: I tried to print some web-page with konq and firefox. Both perfekt. But with two pdfs from different sources and okular I have the same problem.18:14
MamarokNewbee_: did you try another PDF application?18:14
Mamarok!pdf18:15
ubottupdf is the Portable Document Format created by Adobe; viewable in GNU/Linux with xpdf/kpdf/okular/evince, and also adobe reader (free download, but closed source)18:15
Newbee_I don't have any installed. But pdfs form these sources worked great with the okular from KDe 4.2 and 4.118:15
Mamarokhm, let me try if mine works...18:15
MamarokNewbee_: ouch, same problem here, I think you hit a bug :(18:18
Newbee_Mamarok: what a shit. I would need a working okular. I think I should look, wheter it is already reported18:19
MamarokNewbee_: install kpdf, that should work18:20
Newbee_Mamarok: I didn't even want to upgrade to KDE 4.3 but I missed to remove the sources after upgrading to KDE 4.2.2 . KDE 4.3 beta works fine, but this is annoying18:21
MamarokNewbee_: and you are sure there is no 4 pages on one set in the printer settings?18:21
* Mamarok checks her printer settings18:21
jan___trappist: yes i know there is no absolute security :) but the apache is an "active" web service, the only port that is forwarded by the router18:22
jan___trappist: so it's may be a higher risico giving some rights to www-data ?18:23
trappistjan___: right, so that gives you a place to focus your security efforts, and of course it's important to be your web service is as secure as possible - or at least as secure as reasonably practical18:23
trappistjan___: well yeah, if you expose a service to the internet you automatically have some risk.  in order to provide that service, the apache user (www-data, here) needs access to the content.  but it probably doesn't need write or execute access to most of the content.18:24
Newbee_Mamarok: I'm sorry, I cannot understand. What do you mean? ( I am not a native English speaker so I hope you can excuse my inability)18:24
MamarokNewbee_: there is another tool you can use, it's called kpdf, you can install it with the package manager18:25
shanipribadiid like to ask, pressing middle mouse button in konqueror shows a prompt asking if i want to search for the text in selection. I accidentally checked the "do not ask again". Can i make it so that it asks me that question again?18:26
Newbee_Mamarok: i understood this statement. I meant your last post18:26
danaldive got a couple of problems with running videos on my machine.  can anyone help?18:27
Mamarokwell, one can setup the printer to print 4 pages on one sheet, you should check all your printer settings18:27
danaldwenever i try to stream anything on full screen it lags18:28
danaldnever had this problem before18:28
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shanipribadinever mind, i found it in the konquerorrc18:29
Mamarokshanipribadi: you can change this in the settings I guess, did you check?18:30
jan___trappist: well it needs execute + read @ folders and read @ files18:30
trappistjan___: the x attribute on directories doesn't *really* mean execute, but yes, it will need that bit set on directories it needs read access to.18:31
jan___trappist: hehe yeah i know18:32
shanipribadiMamarok: well i looked over the configuration, but i didnt find it. I look into Konquerorrc and theres an option MiddleClickSearch=false under [Notification Messages]. I guess that's what im looking at. Weird thing is googling for konqueror middleclicksearch only shows the source code. seems like theres no doc about it.18:32
jan___trappist: i'll make sure, that files are readable + folder +rx..  If www-data can't write, it will be able to read data anyway, and if in a website is a bug, anybody could read my data?18:33
Mamarokshanipribadi: well, we lack doc writers badly...18:33
trappistjan___: if apache or your site has a serious bug, especially an arbitrary code execution bug, then exploitation of that bug would let the attacker read that data, yes18:37
jan___trappist: the apache is always up to date, and few websites are hosted. I want to install jinzora. if these sites don't have bugs, the danger is "ok"? whats with sql injections, would it allow to acces the data?18:40
chrisssi can't start amarok from my user account. i can start it from any other account, though. apparently, dbus seems to die. any ideas why this is?18:43
shanipribadiMamarok: is there anyway i can help to submit this behaviors to the doc?18:44
trappistjan___: keeping apache up to date is your first line of defense.  so, you're not likely to have problems with apache bugs.  a sql injection attack is (usually) a problem with the site, not the webserver, so if you're running insecure code you could have a problem, but not the same kind of problem.  for example an attacker could use a sql injection bug to insert a user entry for himself and give himself access to parts of the site you don't want him to18:45
trappistchrisss: I don't know the answer, but I do know you're not the first person to describe that exact same situation here.  you might check launchpad for reported bugs.18:45
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Mamarokshanipribadi: you should get in contact with the devs, also you can have a look at that: http://docs.kde.org/18:47
shanipribadiMamarok: ok thanks. ill look there.18:47
Mamarokshanipribadi: I think there is a konqueror channel too18:47
kaddican I set highlights in konversation for only a certain channel? or are all highlights genereal?18:48
Mamarokkaddi: I don't know, you should have a look at the settings18:49
Mamarokkaddi: and usually it just highlights when you are addressed18:49
kaddiMamarok: I did, but didn't see anyhting in that would allow such a config.18:50
Mamarokkaddi: I'm almost sure that it's not possible, as the point of highlighting is that you get notified about when someone talks to you18:51
kaddiMamarok: yes I know, but I added some more names to be highlighted (eg my realname because I meet friends online as well), but this should not be highlighted here, as the name might be taken by someone else18:51
Mamarokkaddi: well, that's not possible then18:52
Mamarokthat's the point of having unique user names in IRC :)18:52
kaddiMamarok, thks... I'll remove the highlighting for now... and fill out a wish report :p18:52
Mamarokkaddi: unlikely this will be posible18:52
kaddiMamarok: so you have the same nickname on every irc-server?18:53
Mamarokkaddi: I only use one :)18:53
Mamarokkaddi: there are already enough channels here :)18:53
kaddiMamarok: I use several and would have liked to take the same nick everywhere... but it seems as if many people thought about getting my name before I did :p18:54
eagles0513875dont mean to interrupt18:54
eagles0513875kaddi: you can link them to this nick so that way when you identify your nick they wont be taken so they will be soley yours18:54
igormahi19:02
snarkfishhi i need some help. Im trying to share a harddrive across the network so i can move some data over, but when i click configure sharing button in dolphin it does nothing19:02
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igormaHas anybody tried to install J2me wtk and j2mepolish on kubuntu?19:03
Mamarokigorma: and what would that be?19:07
igormait is a common wramework for development j2me applications. Just experience problems during building. Maybe some one knows some common bugs or something about it19:08
Newbee_Mamarok: I couldn't find a bug report for that issue.But I am not familiar with the KDE-bug tracker. Do you think it is better to report at KDE or at launchpad?19:16
inSane can somebody help me? i have a problem with wicd (ubuntu 8.04)19:17
tontonbonsoirr19:18
tontonya personne ke parle francaiss19:19
tontonici19:19
tontonputinn19:19
tontonfils de putee19:19
inSane?? am i in an french channel?19:19
||arifaXhow can I change a comment I made on launchpad?19:21
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trappist||arifaX: I think you just have to add to it19:21
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||arifaXtrappist: so I can't change19:21
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trappist||arifaX: I had an issue like that too, talked to the launchpad people and everything, nothing could be done19:22
MamarokNewbee_: I think you should report to Launchpad19:22
tontonspeak frech19:22
tontonspeak french19:22
trappist!fr | tonton19:23
||arifaXtrappist: So I will correct my error with my next comment .. Hmm ok19:23
ubottutonton: Ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr19:23
tontonahh19:23
tontonmerci19:23
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Newbee_Mamarok: is there some special place to repprt bugs in a backport-PPA?19:23
MamarokNewbee_: no, just specify the version and distro number19:23
tontonspeak frechh19:24
tontonvous pouvait remetrte le truc pour info francais19:24
tontonsvp19:24
tontonspeak frech19:24
Mamarok!fr | tonton19:24
ubottutonton: Ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr19:24
Newbee_ok, I'll do my best19:25
Mamaroktonton: et surveille ton language!19:25
tontonoui19:25
tontondsl19:25
tontonjété énervéé19:25
trappisthaha did that say watch your language19:25
tontonjarrive aps a trouver en francais19:25
tontoncomment on fé pour le truc en francais svp19:25
tontonstpp19:26
tontonmamarok19:26
Mamaroktonton: anglais unimquement ici, vas voir le lien qu'ubottu t'a donné19:26
tontonok19:26
tontonsimer19:26
tontonbisous19:26
tontonle truc en francais svp19:28
tontoncomment on19:28
tonton19:28
tontonpour le francaiss19:28
tontonsvp19:28
Mamaroktonton: tu tappes /join #ubuntu-fr19:28
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sumanso....i have windows xp and kubuntu 9.04 installed as dual boot......19:35
korneliorogeliohello, i have an intel gma and i cant get desktops effects for all my users... is it possible?19:35
sumannow i want to wipe out kubuntu 9.04 and install 8.04, what is the best way to do this?19:35
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sumananyone??19:37
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Mamaroksuman: you need to remove it then, going back to a previous version that far back is not supported19:37
sumanMamarok: thanks.. how do i remove it???19:38
skyrocklequipe-de-skyrock-officiel@skyrock.com19:39
skyrockladresse19:39
skyrockde skyrock19:39
skyrocksur messanger19:39
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korneliorogeliohow do i enable desktop effect in all my users?? i have an intel gma, can anyone help me?19:40
KDeskis possible to install in a chroot environment some apps like qt from trunk, and use the rest of the dependencies from the normal root / ?19:41
MamarokKDesk: certainly, but this is more a question for #kde I would say19:42
KDeskMamarok: I only did want to know if that was possible, thanks.19:43
SalzeI (try to) run kde 4.3 beta, but kdeutils does not get installed, because of a missing dependency, namely kde-printer-applet. Is that normal?19:51
adamhi is there a linux internet brpwser eher u can change the colours like iin Internet Explorer19:58
adambecause i am on a website which is navy and because of my backlight being broken, i cannot see such a dark colour20:00
adamfixed it20:02
hajoliEs geht..... :-)20:05
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declanHello I have a quick query. My panel is set to autohide but I cannot get it to come back up now. IS there a way to restart the panel or turn off autohide without right clicking on it? thanks20:19
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solid_liq!ping20:24
ubottuping yourself ;-) really the diodes all down my left side are sore20:24
InforMedHi! Is there any work around to this bug? https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19357320:30
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DimitreeGuyse any idea why the DSL option in Network Manager is gray ? i was able to configure my connection with terminal and pppoeconf but any idea why it's not available in the Gui ?20:37
Hydranthey all... do I need the 64-bit kubuntu for seeing > 4GB of memory?20:45
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oscarhi my frend how can get  konversation in french20:55
ActionParsnip!fr20:56
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John_1_bbl all21:24
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geronimo89Hello. I've changed my konquerorrc file and set MMBOpensTab=true, but it is not opening tabs on middleclicks, what to do?21:46
geronimo89Maybe it's just ignoring my configfile, some options mentioned there don't work either, like the MouseMiddleClickClosesTab=true21:48
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DimitreeHow can i do a "Full update" for the "KDE 4.2.4 Updates for Kubuntu 9.04" release ? In software updates there are updates and many blocked ?21:48
Dimitreehelp please :)21:51
Dimitreeoh well :/21:52
boblenyI need some help please! While trying to fix the sound issue with firefox, I pugered esound-common. Now the entire GUI is gone. I reinstalled esound-common from the command interface, but nothing has changed. What do I do? Where do I start?21:53
boblenyIs anyone even here?21:55
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Guest44205#spotify22:15
dhendu9411hello all.  is anyone active in here right now?22:18
bobencetowhat is problem22:19
usherbohemian!list22:20
geronimo89bobenceto: Konqueror is ignoring my konquerorrc file22:20
ubottuThis is not a file sharing channel (or network). If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot »22:20
dhendu9411well i loaded songbird and it put an icon in the system tray.  I am use to amarok that will minimize it when clicking the "X".  Songbird doesn't seem to have this so I right clicked on the icon in the system tray for it and selected hide, now my how taskbar is gone.  How can I unhide it?22:21
dhendu9411Oddly enough, the icon that appeared for songbird was the little cashew icon in the upper right-hand corner of the screen.22:21
bobencetowhat desktop environment do u use?22:22
dhendu9411kde 4.122:22
bobencetowhole taskbar is missing?22:22
dhendu9411kde 4.2 excuse me22:22
dhendu9411yup22:22
bobencetoafter u log out, is it still same?22:23
geronimo89dhendu9411: try to run plasma (alt+f2 plasma enter)22:23
dhendu9411haven't tried that as I have several windows open and wanted to see if I could fix it without logging out and then back in.  At this point, I can't click the Kicker, so I will have to do a restart from the command line.22:23
dhendu9411I don't think its a plasma issue since everything else is working just fine22:24
bobencetotry restart22:24
bobencetosongbird is java22:24
bobencetoi had problems with java apps22:24
bobencetoand systray22:24
bobencetoand kde22:24
FloodBotK2bobenceto: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.22:24
dhendu9411ok I will brb22:25
bobencetoi was using JDownloader, and some times systray was in some weird mode22:25
bobencetoare there any window borders?22:25
bobenceto@geronimo89 how is that?22:29
bobencetodid u change  permission maybe?22:29
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home.22:30
ingican any body help me I'm trying to use kopete but i cant find out how to use the webcam ?????22:31
ingipm plz22:31
dhendu9411rebooting worked.  It is starting to become like windows!  lol22:33
dhendu9411thanks guys22:33
ingican any body help me I'm trying to use kopete but i cant find out how to use the webcam ????? pm plz!!!!!22:33
geronimo89dhendu9411: funny comment :)22:33
geronimo89dhendu9411: did starting plasma again not work for you?22:34
dhendu9411geronimo89: no I just restarted the computer.  I was trying to not reboot, but oh well.22:35
geronimo89dhendu9411: did you try?22:36
dhendu9411geronimo89: yeah, but it didn't do anything22:36
dhendu9411oh well... back to work... thanks again guys22:36
geronimo89kk, byebye22:37
ingican u help my guys?????22:38
ingiI cant c how to turnit on and off in a chat but works in amsn so its not cam prop just kopete22:39
ingican any body help me I'm trying to use kopete but i cant find out how to use the webcam ????? pm plz!!!!!22:44
tomsdaleI changed recently my desktop effects from OpenGL to XRender and experienced a MAJOR speed boost. Some effects don't work anymore with XRender but has anyone else noticed the additional speed?22:44
ingiI cant c how to turnit on and off in a chat but works in amsn so its not cam prop just kopete22:46
geronimo89ingi: please speak proper english22:46
ingiI'm icelandic and dislexsic sorry but propper english is bit limedid22:47
geronimo89ok ok22:48
ingibut can you guys help me /w kopete?22:48
eagles0513875ingi: please state your issue and if someone knows how to fix it then they will respond22:49
ingiI cant use webcam in chat I cant see the buton22:50
ajavidhi guys22:50
ajavidkubuntu is seeming more and more attractive now22:50
ajavidI'm on debian lenny and for kde3 but now i think i should move to kde422:51
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ajavidi dunno man22:51
eagles0513875ajavid: thats up to you22:51
ajavidext4 support inside kubuntu 9.04?22:54
geronimo89ajavid: and make sure you're machine is fast enough, ext4 is in it, using it right now22:54
ajavidhow about 3d support for r5xx radeon open source?22:54
ajavidgeronimo89, how fast?22:54
eagles0513875same here im using ext4 as ewll22:54
ajavidmodel name      : Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU          6300  @ 1.86GHz22:54
ajavidstepping        : 622:54
ajavidcpu MHz         : 3009.90022:54
geronimo89ajavid: hard to say22:55
ajavid             total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached22:55
ajavidMem:          8006       7593        412          0        250       565422:55
ajavidshould be plenty I hope22:55
eagles0513875!paste | ajavid22:55
ubottuajavid: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)22:55
ajavidwhen I use kubuntu amd64, I get total mem 7800~ish22:55
ajavidwhat happens to my ram in kubuntu?22:55
ajavidin debian it shows 8006 ram22:55
ajavidit shows 100+mb less than debian22:56
ajavidits weird22:56
eagles0513875ajavid: probably initramfs being loaded into that 100+mb i could be wrong though22:57
ajavidalso, kubuntu installs too much stuff when i install fromcd22:58
ajavidhow can I install a minimal desktop using22:58
ajavidlike i don't use printing servers or something22:59
ajavidlots of other stuff22:59
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achoquelhey !23:07
achoquelQui parle français ?23:07
tomsdaleajavid - I think that's just the way ubuntu does it - you install the kde desktop and it installs all packages with it.23:10
tomsdaleI'm quite happy with kubuntu but I'm planning on giving arch linux a try - they have a minimalist approach compared to kubuntu.23:11
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sean__tomsdale: sounds cool to me23:11
sean__I've thought of trying arch but I never did23:12
ign0ramustheir kdemod looks awesome...23:12
tomsdaleonly thing that holds me back atm is that I don't have a primary partition free anymore :-(23:12
tomsdaleign0ramus: yes - you just install the kde apps you want.23:13
ign0ramustomsdale, and you can install kde3 or kde4 apps all happily together23:13
tomsdaleign0ramus: you're on arch?23:13
ign0ramustomsdale, no... i really like everything about it, philosophically and implementation, but i can't bear to be without APT :(23:14
tomsdaleign0ramus: yes - that's also holding me a big back. in ubuntu you just have all the apps at your fingertip.23:15
ign0ramustomsdale, in Arch you can use Pacman, which they tout highly, but everything i've learned in Linux assumes the presence of APT23:15
tomsdaleIf I still had a primary partition free I would give it a go and run them side by side to compare.23:16
ign0ramustomsdale, and APT is extremely robust, stable, and feature-rich, i can't see myself using a distro day-to-day without it23:16
ign0ramustomsdale, yeah, once Win7 is final, I'm getting rid of my XP partitions and will free up some space23:17
thierry_hi all,23:17
ign0ramustomsdale, (need windows for printer, ms exchange, and rosetta stone).... otherwise, i wouldn't even consider it23:17
tomsdalebloody windows 7 - I downloaded the latest RC which is supposed to be good till next year sometimes and used it today for a dimdim session23:18
tomsdalein the middle it started poping up with notifications "This is not a genuine copy" blackened my desktop etc ... I couldn'T believe it23:18
ign0ramustomsdale, on the RC in which you supplied the key from MSFT?23:19
tomsdale(dimdim = desktop sharing) It was embarrasing since I was giving a web presentation to a possible client ...23:19
thierry_is there someone that have knowledge on ibm T23 and ubuntu 9.0423:19
tomsdaleyes - I got a key when I downloaded it.23:19
ign0ramustomsdale, very strange.  well, not really, considering the source :/23:19
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ign0ramusthierry_, do you have a specific issue?23:20
tomsdalehehe -. Unfortunately for me it's also still a must. But I use it like 2% of the time23:20
thierry_yes problem to swith to an external monitor23:21
ign0ramustomsdale, same here. well, except for the cubical, where its still XP.  Although living in 2001 isn't so bad... the economy was much better then ;)23:21
thierry_fn+f8 seems to be accepted, but switching doesn't works23:21
tomsdaletrue - back then working in the financial area seemed like a really smart thing to do too23:21
tomsdalethierry_: which drivers are you using? Don't remember on the T2X models what it was.23:22
thierry_i found a solution for ubuntu 8.10, but seems the upgrade to the version 9.04 it doens not work anymore23:22
thierry_I'am newbie to the linux world23:22
thierry_t2x what's this?23:22
tomsdaleI remember it was in the release notes of 8.10 that they repaired this feature.23:23
tomsdaleyour thinkpad model. I think my flatmate had a T2123:23
thierry_it was a T2323:23
tomsdalehas it an ATI Gfx?23:23
thierry_it seems that this problem occure only with the T2323:24
thierry_I currently uses a T41, but no problem to switch23:24
thierry_I don't remeber because this is not my laptop23:24
thierry_i think it's a ATI23:25
tomsdaleIf I remember right on my x41 with intel drivers it worked out of the box on Ubuntu, didn't try kubuntu.23:25
thierry_to switch I used a command in a terminal session23:25
ign0ramusthierry_, there's some talk about resolution issues on the external (ie, you can't set the external monitor for more than 1280x1024)... not sure if that helps23:26
thierry_found on a forum23:26
thierry_already tested (1024x76823:26
thierry_doesn't works23:26
tomsdaleis there no grafical app in kde that allows you to switch monitors?23:27
thierry_yes a tools to swith video to vga out, but doesn't works23:27
thierry_don't remember the name23:28
ign0ramusthierry_, http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/S3switch ?23:28
thierry_i will try to find the command line used to switch with ubuntu 8.1023:28
tomsdalethierry_: or you could try the gnome app in ubuntu - maybe if it talks directly to X.Org and doesn't have loads of dependencies it could work.23:29
ign0ramusthierry_, did you check the link? the app is specifically for switching monitors, and there's a patch just for the T23...23:31
ign0ramusthierry_, not sure if this still works in Jaunty, but may be worth a look23:31
thierry_yes, I checked the link and added it in my favorites23:31
thierry_I cannot test it now because i don't have the pc23:31
ign0ramusthierry_, ahh, i see now23:31
thierry_I will check it asap and come back to say if it works or not (friday)23:32
ign0ramusthierry_, cool.  let me know if/when you see me :)23:33
thierry_excuse for my english, but i'am french23:33
thierry_thanks ign0ramus23:33
tomsdaleblast - the blur effect will be dropped in KDE 4.3 because of a bug I discovered. Now I feel bad :-(23:33
ign0ramusthierry_, pas de probleme ;)23:33
thierry_same for tomsdale23:33
thierry_thanks23:34
tomsdaleyou're welcome - where you're from thierry_?23:34
ign0ramustomsdale, you killed it! :'(23:34
thierry_ign0ramus23:34
thierry_tu parle français?23:34
thierry_s23:34
tomsdalej'habite au Quebec :-)23:34
thierry_eh ben23:34
tomsdalebut I'm german originally.23:34
thierry_moi j'me prends la tête à écrire en anglais23:35
thierry_lol23:35
ign0ramusthierry_, oui, mais c'est pas de place pour cette langue.  Anglais, svp ;)23:35
tomsdalethere is a channel ubuntu-qc and ubuntu-fr if you prefer french23:35
thierry_ok désolé23:35
tomsdaleign0ramus: I'm a sucker for blur and transparency in KDE !!!!23:36
ign0ramustomsdale, i'm sure it'll be back once the bug is fixed.23:36
tomsdaleI wish I could fix it myself and get it back in.23:36
ign0ramustomsdale, you reported it on launchpad?23:37
tomsdaleNo, directly on the KDE bugtracker - I'm running the beta at the moment.23:37
ign0ramustomsdale, oh man, you took it out of kde entirely?  that's some influence you got there :)23:37
cortex_hi23:37
ign0ramus!hi23:38
ubottuHi! Welcome to #kubuntu!23:38
tomsdaleI just reported a bug - turned out blur was responsible and last I heard was that it will get removed.23:38
tomsdaleI tried to contact the original author but he didn't respond :-(23:38
ign0ramustomsdale, that's actually pretty cool, and like i said, blur will be back once fixed23:39
ign0ramustomsdale, you have a link to the bugtracker?23:39
tomsdalehttps://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19628123:39
Kraffesjoin canada23:40
tomsdalehttp://bugsfiles.kde.org/attachment.cgi?id=3449123:40
ign0ramustomsdale, ouch.23:41
tomsdaleThis is what it looks like if you have blur enabled for some non native KDE apps.23:41
ign0ramustomsdale, brb. le diner.23:41
tomsdaleok, cu around.23:41
ingiis ubuntu gnome the same as kubuntu or ?23:41
tomsdaleIngi - Kubuntu is Ubuntu with the KDE Desktop.23:42
thierry_bye all have a good night23:42
tomsdaleUbuntu per default comes with the Gnome Desktop.23:42
tomsdalecu thierry_23:43
thierry_friday to give feedback about problem resolution23:43
thierry_thanks!23:43
ingiok so I just need to .....23:44
tomsdaleingi - what do you have and what do you want to do?23:44
tomsdaleAre you considering a new installation or do you already have it installed.23:45
ingiok I have ubuntu 9.04 gnome 2.26.1 can I have somthing better thanthat? sorry a total newbe here23:46
tomsdaleingi: I woud't say KDE is better than Gnome. I usually install for my friends who are new to LInux Gnome first. It's more mature and stable.23:47
tomsdalebefore you install KDE + Gnome on the same install I would recommend to test the Live CD first to see whether you like it.23:48
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ingiok I'LL do that... but kopete works beter on kde23:49
ingithanx for the help23:51
tomsdaleKDE uses QT libraries , Gnome uses GTK+ . But you can run KDE apps in Gnome and vica versa. Kopete works also on Gnome but it probably will install several KDE dependancies.23:51
tomsdalejust try "sudo aptitude install kopete" on the command line and see how many depenencies it wants to download befor you decide.23:52
ign0ramustomsdale, ok, im back.  do you still have that screenshot?23:57
tomsdalehehe, now it's me who has dinner23:58
tomsdalebut the screenshot is attached to the bugtracker23:58
tomsdalehttps://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19628123:58

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