[00:27] <billybigrigger> will karmic keep my raid setup on a fresh install?
[00:27] <BUGabundo> hum
[00:27] <BUGabundo> from LiveCD you mean?
[00:27] <BUGabundo> 'cause Alternate already has it
[00:27] <billybigrigger> i want to do a fresh install, since i used to multi-task this computer with apache,mysql,dovecot,postfix...but im know running the server in a VM so i have no need, and would like a fresh karmic install
[00:28] <billybigrigger> well i already have a raid 1 setup...
[00:28] <billybigrigger> just worried about loosing the data on it if i do a fresh install
[00:28] <BUGabundo> yeah that would suck
[00:28] <BUGabundo> backups ?
[00:28] <billybigrigger> nope, the raid array IS the backup :P
[00:29] <BUGabundo> aahahahahahahaahaha
[00:29] <BUGabundo> then backup the backups
[00:29] <billybigrigger> well i guess if i loose it i loose it
[00:30] <billybigrigger> i do have 1 more disk i could back it all up on
[00:30] <billybigrigger> but its ide, and my / drive and dvdrw are on the only ide header i have
[00:31] <billybigrigger> uggg sounds like too much work
[00:34] <BUGabundo> lol
[00:34] <BUGabundo> well you could just risk it
[00:34] <BUGabundo> FAIL
[00:34] <billybigrigger> haha
[00:34] <BUGabundo> and then have to restore from untested originals
[00:35] <billybigrigger> /dev/sda1   *           1       60801   488384001   fd  Linux raid autodetect
[00:35] <billybigrigger> /dev/sdc1               1       60801   488384001   fd  Linux raid autodetect
[00:35] <billybigrigger> do you think that karmic install would detect that? and try to auto-start the array? or create a new one?
[00:36] <billybigrigger> thats the fdisk output
[00:36] <BUGabundo> no idea
[00:37] <billybigrigger> oh geez
[00:37] <BUGabundo> well livecd may fail, but you can give it a try
[00:37] <billybigrigger> ill stick to my current system :P
[00:37] <billybigrigger> and wait for a reason to install a klean karmic :P
[00:39] <billybigrigger> wheres a good place to find what changes were made to a package?
[00:39] <billybigrigger> ie i just updated and upgraded, and see there were changes to ubuntu-desktop
[00:39] <billybigrigger> where can i find the changes?
[00:40] <BUGabundo> lp, and on the docs on your system
[00:40] <BUGabundo> can't remmeber the path right now
[00:40] <BUGabundo> just mlocate for it
[00:55] <billybigrigger> anyone having problems keeping firefox bookmarks?
[00:55] <BUGabundo> humm not I noticed
[00:55] <BUGabundo> but I'm having trouble with history
[01:00] <effie-jayx> hola
[01:02] <billybigrigger> hola senior
[01:03] <BUGabundo> polá
[01:20] <m_tadeu> hi everyone
[01:21] <BUGabundo> ola m_tadeu
[01:21] <m_tadeu> is there the madwifi package somewhere around? I don't seem to be able to find it in the repos
[02:33] <billybigrigger> geez no sound in flash blows
[05:17] <billybigrigger> is anyone getting anywhere with the sound issue in karmic?
[07:22] <james7> hi
[07:22] <james7> anyone try the beta yet?
[07:23] <james7> what are the differences
[09:18] <zcat[1]>  Can someone help me; https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/387065 is apparently not a bug, just an installation issue. I've removed (purged) evince, deleted the package and reinstalled it and I still have this 'installation issue' though
[09:22] <Hobbsee> zcat[1]: i'd suggest following what you were told in the bug.
[09:23] <zcat[1]> yeah just noticed that.. other bug report I added to said was an installation issue not a bug.. weird since I can completely remove and reinstall the package and still have the same issue.
[09:23] <zcat[1]> ok, added requested info
[09:40] <dupondje> is there a bug for the sound problem already ?
[09:41] <TheInfinity> dupondje: just look @ launchpad?
[09:42] <Hobbsee> there are likely many of them.  File a separate one, and it can get duplicated if needed
[09:42] <Hobbsee> sound wfm, fwiw
[09:43] <dupondje> can't play sound on audacious & flash @ same time :p
[14:33] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[14:38] <rski> hey.
[15:37] <Amanuta99> Hi, did ye tried out Karmic yet?
[15:37] <rski> ...
[15:37] <rski> you think?
[15:37] <rski> :D
[15:38] <christophsturm> wireless stopped working for me, network manager says "wireless is disabled" and the enable wireless checkbox is greyed out
[15:47] <BluesKaj> christophsturm, did you just update ?
[15:55] <christophsturm> BluesKaj: it happened 3 days ago, now i updated via wired networking and it still doesnt work
[15:58] <BluesKaj> christophsturm, I had a problem with wifi and the fiax was to regress back to the older driver using these cmnds: sudo apt-get remove plasma-widget-network* , then sudo dpkg -i plasma-widget-networkmanagement_0.1~svn951801-1_i386.deb
[16:00] <BluesKaj> christophsturm, after installing you'll have to re-add the network management widgaet to your panel and manage connections should work
[16:01] <christophsturm> ok, for me it happens with gnome. so its related to a network manager upgrade?
[18:38] <billybigrigger> anyone here able to get message filters working correctly in thunderbird?
[19:09] <Dominik> did anybody here get cuda to work on 9.10?
[19:10] <billybigrigger> no need for it
[19:12] <BUGabundo> boas tardes
[19:16] <Dominik> no cuda? anybody?
[19:20] <billybigrigger> how about flash/sound problems? anyone getting that working yet?
[19:20] <BUGabundo> ME
[19:20] <BUGabundo> and VLC too
[19:20] <billybigrigger> how did you get your vlc problems fixed?
[19:20] <BUGabundo> if you file them, sub me
[19:20] <BUGabundo> nope!
[19:21] <billybigrigger> oh i thought you got them working :P
[19:21] <BUGabundo> nope :(
[19:25] <Dominik> sorry hat to reboot, anybody running cuda on 9.10?
[19:26] <BUGabundo> no
[19:26] <Dominik> no as in, you don't use cuda or it doesn't run on 9.10?
[19:27] <BUGabundo> ehe no as in I don't run it Dominik
[19:27] <BUGabundo> hey thekorn
[19:27] <thekorn> hello BUGabundo,
[19:27] <thekorn> how are things in karmic land
[19:29] <billybigrigger> BUGabundo::: you have vlc-plugins-pulse installed, and made sure vlc is using pulse for audio output, and still no sound eh?
[19:31] <BUGabundo> $ apt-cache policy vlc-plugin-pulse  Installed: (none)  Candidate: 1.0.0~rc2-1ubuntu1
[19:32] <BUGabundo> ok... I must have removed it to test
[19:33] <BUGabundo> billybigrigger: plugin installed, output set for PA, NO SOUND
[19:33] <BUGabundo> thekorn: going! nothing much for now
[19:37] <dupondje> billybigrigger: Flash is working again here
[19:37] <dupondje> flash sound works
[19:37] <dupondje> when I start Audacious
[19:37] <dupondje> and then try again
[19:37] <BUGabundo> let me check
[19:37] <dupondje> no more sound
[19:37] <dupondje> when Flash is open, and I press start in audacious
[19:37] <dupondje> audacious crashes ...
[19:38] <BUGabundo> humm
[19:38] <BUGabundo> killing pulseaudio, killed firefox yay :(
[19:38] <billybigrigger> muahaha
[19:39] <dupondje> If I close audacious I have Flash sound
[19:39] <dupondje> else not :s
[19:39] <billybigrigger> hmm
[19:39] <billybigrigger> what output in audacious are you using?
[19:39] <billybigrigger> pulse or alsa?
[19:39] <dupondje> it was alsa
[19:39] <dupondje> changed to pulse
[19:39] <dupondje> gonne game again ;)
[19:40] <dupondje> (flash game to test sound)
[19:40] <dupondje> :p
[19:40] <dupondje> ok
[19:40] <dupondje> still no sound
[19:40] <billybigrigger> well i don't have sound, and don't have audacious installed or running
[19:40] <dupondje> but maby other programm ?
[19:40] <dupondje> that causes same shit :)
[19:40] <billybigrigger> i closed my music app
[19:40] <billybigrigger> and nothing
[19:42] <dupondje> haha
[19:42] <dupondje> I managed to break it
[19:42] <dupondje> :x
[19:42] <dupondje> tried Flash & Audacious @ same time
[19:42] <dupondje> resulting in no more sound in both of them
[19:42] <dupondje> :x
[19:43] <dupondje> ah its back now, sound volume of ALSA player went to 0% :s
[19:43] <dupondje> wtf :)
[19:45] <dupondje> When I lower volume of PulseAudio, the volume bar of ALSA changes also
[19:45] <dupondje> and under 50% of PulseAudio,  ALSA is muted
[19:45] <dupondje> :s
[19:46] <BUGabundo1> yeah
[19:46] <BUGabundo1> I had that before alpha1
[19:46] <BUGabundo1> I think now mine is better
[19:46] <BUGabundo1> it was really bad.. Volume bellow 60% was = MUTE
[19:53] <dupondje> strange
[19:54] <dupondje> ALSA sound shouldn't change when changing PulseAudio sound ?
[19:54] <BUGabundo1> should
[19:55] <Dominik> alright guys how can I get ethernet drivers from the .30 kernel and get them to run in 8.04
[19:55] <BUGabundo1> Dominik: humm no...
[19:56] <BUGabundo1> Dominik: but I can get the full kernel .30 on hardy
[19:56] <BUGabundo1> not sure it will work dough
[19:56] <BUGabundo1> Dominik: you need kernel Mainline PPA
[19:56] <dupondje> BUGabundo1: it should ? but change the same height, and now below 50% = mute ? ;)
[19:57] <BUGabundo1> ahh not that
[19:57] <BUGabundo1> (07:54:12 PM) dupondje: ALSA sound shouldn't change when changing PulseAudio sound ?
[19:57] <Dominik> i got full .30 kernel on 8.04 but it just craped out on me big time
[19:57] <BUGabundo1> Dominik: yeah! it can happen
[19:57] <BUGabundo1> Dominik: can't you upgrade to 9.04?
[19:58] <BUGabundo1> or karmic 9.10a2?
[19:58] <Dominik> i need cuda
[19:58] <Dominik> there are no cuda drivers for 9.10 :(
[19:58] <BUGabundo1> get a new card?
[19:58] <BUGabundo1> :)
[19:58] <Dominik> it is the newest there is
[19:59] <Dominik> its just nvidea hasn't released cuda drivers for 9.04
[19:59] <Dominik> let alone 9.10
[19:59] <Dominik> :(
[20:00] <m_tadeu> hi everyone
[20:00] <BUGabundo1> ola m_tadeu
[20:00] <m_tadeu> apt-get si reporting backports modules as broken
[20:02] <m_tadeu> is there something I can do about it?
[20:03] <BUGabundo> m_tadeu no idea!
[20:03] <BUGabundo> wait a bit ?
[20:03] <BUGabundo> I did not know karmic had backports with anything!
[20:04] <m_tadeu> and upgrades to it :)
[20:08] <m_tadeu> I can not do ifup or ifdown any more, can I?
[20:11] <BUGabundo> why not ?
[20:17] <dupondje> maby u need to put 'sudo' in front of it ;)
[20:17] <dupondje> but no you can't without config
[20:18] <dupondje> as most of the config is done by NetworkManager ;)
[20:30] <m_tadeu> oki....gonna check that out, then....just want to know how it's done via command line
[20:35] <pwnguin> part
[20:58] <rleeds> I updated to grub2 and it told me to run update-from-grub-legacy when everything looked good. But I don't have such a command...anyone?
[21:00] <ActionParsnip> rleeds: http://www.techenclave.com/guides-and-tutorials/grub-2-installation-92883.html
[21:00] <ActionParsnip> may help
[21:00] <ActionParsnip> ive not used grub2 as grub works fine
[21:01] <rleeds> ActionParsnip, no such luck.
[21:01] <rleeds> ActionParsnip, Ahh...maybe I can just dpkg-reconfigure it and tell it to write to the MBR
[21:01] <rleeds> ActionParsnip, ....nope
[21:01] <billybigrigger> whats the problem?
[21:02] <billybigrigger> have you rebooted yet?
[21:02] <rleeds> billybigrigger, The update-from-grub-legacy that's supposed to remove the chainload from grub doesn't exist
[21:02] <rleeds> Yes, I have.
[21:02] <rleeds> billybigrigger, ohh...wait...is that a command in grub2 or a command I'm supposed to run after bootup?
[21:02] <rleeds> I've been searching for something in my path
[21:02] <billybigrigger> after bootup
[21:02] <rleeds> billybigrigger, yeah...no such command on my machine
[21:04] <billybigrigger> what about update-grub2
[21:05] <billybigrigger> that will spit out a G2 config file
[21:05] <billybigrigger> if you don't have one
[21:06] <billybigrigger> hmmm
[21:06] <billybigrigger> sudo upgrade-from-grub-legacy
[21:06] <billybigrigger> i have it on my machine
[21:07] <lucas_> hey
[21:07] <billybigrigger> sudo upgrade-from auto completes for me
[21:07] <lucas_> what is repository of ubuntu karmic koala
[21:07] <billybigrigger> what do you mean?
[21:07] <billybigrigger> what are you wanting?
[21:07] <rleeds> billybigrigger, I'm wanting that. No autocomplete for me. Command not found.
[21:08] <lucas_> i want repos for karmic koala
[21:08] <billybigrigger> lucas_::: change jaunty to karmic in your apt sources
[21:08] <billybigrigger> why do you want them?
[21:08] <billybigrigger> are you looking to upgrade?
[21:08] <lucas_> yeah
[21:08] <billybigrigger> well thats not the way to upgrade
[21:08] <lucas_> hmm
[21:09] <lucas_> what is the way
[21:09] <billybigrigger> http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/karmic/alpha1#Upgrading%20from%20Ubuntu%209.04
[21:09] <billybigrigger> rleeds::: don't know what to tell you
[21:10] <billybigrigger> rleeds::: you might have to reconfigure, or purge the grub2 upgrade and try again
[21:10] <billybigrigger> rleeds::: how did you upgrade to grub2?
[21:10] <rleeds> billybigrigger, sudo aptitude install grub2
[21:11] <rleeds> hmm... purge and reinstall doesn't help.
[21:12] <billybigrigger> maybe try SGD
[21:13] <billybigrigger> im sorry im not much help, but my transition to legacy to G2 was good :P
[21:13] <rleeds> SGD?
[21:13] <billybigrigger> SGD being Super Grub Disk
[21:14] <BUGabundo> lucas_: please DON'T change sources to upgrade
[21:14] <lucas_> no
[21:14] <BUGabundo> lucas_: use update-manager -d
[21:14] <lucas_> i use update-manager -d
[21:14] <BUGabundo> ok then
[21:14] <billybigrigger> rleeds::: http://www.techenclave.com/guides-and-tutorials/grub-2-installation-92883.html
[21:14] <lucas_> what is the difference
[21:14] <BUGabundo> and please read the release notes too, before upgrading
[21:14] <rleeds> billybigrigger, thanks
[21:14] <billybigrigger> rleeds::: try update-grub
[21:15] <rleeds> billybigrigger, nah...that just updates the grub configuration.
[21:16] <billybigrigger> isn't that what you want?
[21:17] <billybigrigger> make sure your root (hdX,X) is set properly and update grub
[21:18] <rleeds> billybigrigger, It runs fine and it updates the grub configuration, but it's still set to chainload to grub 2 with grub 1 installed in the MBR
[21:20] <BUGabundo> any one read   https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-karmic-audio-experience ?
[21:20] <BUGabundo> are we getting gnome-volume-control-pulse  *again* ?
[21:23] <rleeds> BUGabundo, looks like it: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1186282
[21:25] <billybigrigger> BUGabundo::: alsa 1.0.20?
[21:25] <billybigrigger> is that what your using?
[21:27] <BUGabundo> billybigrigger: checking
[21:27] <BUGabundo> ~$ apt-cache policy alsa-base
[21:27] <BUGabundo>   Installed: 1.0.20+dfsg-1ubuntu4
[21:27] <billybigrigger> hmm...thats the newest alsa driver available as well...
[21:28] <billybigrigger> checked alsa's site...
[21:28] <billybigrigger> i thought maybe a newer kernel driver might help out these flash audio issues
[21:40] <BUGabundo> anyone tracking   https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/foundations-karmic-swapfile ?
[21:49] <thegodsquirrel> Newly installed Vmare server will not finish install due to error in config.pl
[21:50] <thegodsquirrel> is this due to the new linux kernel being in compatible with Vmare
[21:50] <thegodsquirrel> everything else works perfect
[21:53] <thegodsquirrel> anyone home
[21:54] <BUGabundo> thegodsquirrel: pong
[21:57] <thegodsquirrel> ping lol
[21:59] <thegodsquirrel> hmmmmm
[22:00] <thegodsquirrel> well that must mean either dumb question or no one is here
[22:01] <BUGabundo> I'm here
[22:01] <BUGabundo> ence the pong
[22:01] <thegodsquirrel> sorry I havent used IRC in a long time I am rusty on the lingo and I dont know what PONG is
[22:03] <BUGabundo> thegodsquirrel: in IRC language (and submarine too) pong follows an ping
[22:03] <BUGabundo> where it asks if the other party is there
[22:03] <BUGabundo> you asked "anyone home" I replied
[22:03] <thegodsquirrel> gotcha
[22:03] <thegodsquirrel> did you see the question I habd
[22:04] <thegodsquirrel> *had
[22:04] <thegodsquirrel> I am using virtual box as a replacement but I would like VMware back
[22:05] <Twigathy> https://edge.launchpad.net/hundredpapercuts <-- Interesting.... :o
[22:06] <BUGabundo> I did
[22:06] <BUGabundo> and I can't help
[22:06] <thegodsquirrel> cripe
[22:06] <BUGabundo> Twigathy: everyone been tallking about that for a week
[22:06] <Twigathy> BUGabundo: I'm not active enough =)
[22:07] <BUGabundo> from what I read, creating a project was a mistake
[22:07] <BUGabundo> lol
[22:08] <Twigathy> eep
[22:12] <thegodsquirrel> thanks for the link, I posted it
[22:13] <thegodsquirrel> hopefully it will be fixed in the final RC
[22:14] <dupondje> mmm :) wanted to enable compiz, and it fails :p
[22:14] <dupondje> but no real error :s
[22:15] <BUGabundo> dupondje: $ compiz --replace
[22:15] <billybigrigger> Twigathy::: ya i was just reading up on that 100paperclip thing
[22:15] <billybigrigger> s/clip/cuts
[22:17] <BUGabundo> billybigrigger: LOLOL
[22:17] <Twigathy> Solution to 100 paper clips: 1 large electromagnet? :)
[22:18] <billybigrigger> heh
[22:18] <dupondje> BUGabundo: then it works ... :s
[22:18] <BUGabundo> aahhha
[22:21] <dupondje> any id ? :)
[22:22] <BUGabundo> dupondje: lost context!
[22:22] <BUGabundo> compiz running or not?
[22:22] <BUGabundo> Composite enabled or not?
[22:22] <dupondje> when I do compiz --replace it runs
[22:22] <BUGabundo> GPU supports it or not?
[22:22] <dupondje> when I do it in GUI, it doesn't :(
[22:22] <BUGabundo> dupondje: for 1y I've been running compiz --repload after *every* boot
[22:22] <BUGabundo> :(
[22:23] <BUGabundo> I have fusionicon on hand to do that
[22:23] <dupondje> wtf :)
[22:23] <BUGabundo> and alias on .bashrc
[22:23] <BUGabundo> alias compizB='DISPLAY=:0 compiz --replace &'
[22:23] <BUGabundo> alias compizC='DISPLAY=:0 compiz --reload &'
[22:23] <BUGabundo> dupondje: not funny
[22:24] <BUGabundo> workaround on the bug: disable Composti
[22:24] <BUGabundo> yeah right and lose GnomeDO Glass skin ! NO WAY
[22:26] <dupondje> bugs shouldbugs should be fixed :D
[22:29] <dupondje> is there somewhere a list of all shortcuts in Compiz ? :p
[22:29] <dupondje> cause If u don't know any, its like boring ? ;)
[22:31] <Sarvatt> you know metacity can do compositing too right BUGabundo?
[22:31] <BUGabundo> Sarvatt: I have it on!
[22:31] <BUGabundo> that's MY bug
[22:31] <BUGabundo> dupondje: check compiz home page wiki
[22:32] <BUGabundo> all of them there
[22:32] <BUGabundo> tip: super+f12
[22:32] <Sarvatt> oh compiz cant start when you have metacity compositing on...
[22:32] <BUGabundo> super+shift+mouse click
[22:32] <BUGabundo> Sarvatt: right!
[22:32] <BUGabundo> and without it
[22:32] <BUGabundo> i lose GnomeDO Glass skin ! NO WAY
[22:32]  * BUGabundo checks for bug report
[22:33] <BUGabundo> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/178953
[22:33] <dupondje> Sarvatt: where u disable that ? :D
[22:33] <BUGabundo> see how old that is ?
[22:33] <BUGabundo> fixed??
[22:33] <BUGabundo> let me check it
[22:33] <BUGabundo>                                                                             compiz (Ubuntu)                                                            Triaged
[22:34] <BUGabundo> right! compiz task still opened
[22:34] <dupondje> mmm, super+f12 doesn't do shit here :)
[22:34] <BUGabundo> dupondje: DUH. enable fire first
[22:34] <Sarvatt> huh? you arent using metacity compositing if you enable compiz, why dont you just disable metacity compositing so it can start fine on its own?
[22:36] <Sarvatt> dupondje: run gconf-editor, go to apps > metacity > general and theres a compositing_manager checkbox
[22:36] <BUGabundo> Sarvatt: I could try _again_, but last time it failed to work
[22:37] <BUGabundo> I know where it is... I uncheked it once
[22:37] <BUGabundo> it booted ok, Compiz started but I lost composite on compiz too
[22:39] <BUGabundo> Sarvatt: /apps/metacity/general/compositing_manager disable
[22:39] <BUGabundo> will test on next boot
[22:40] <BUGabundo> and hope you are here too, so I can head slap you eheh :)
[22:45] <dupondje> nice :)
[22:45] <dupondje> Compiz enabled with Layout :)
[22:45] <dupondje> workin! :)
[22:46] <BUGabundo> ah?
[22:46] <BUGabundo> hey RAOF
[22:52] <FoxBlitzz> Hmm, gonna try Kubuntu Karmic Alpha
[22:54] <virtuald> is it bad to do a partial upgrade?
[22:55] <virtuald> when update-manager prompts
[22:56] <BUGabundo> virtuald: YES
[22:57] <RAOF> Well, maybe.
[22:57] <soc1> hi
[22:58] <BUGabundo> hi soc1
[22:58] <soc1> does someone know which package has the default settings for gnome?
[22:58] <BUGabundo> virtuald: usuallu it means some packages are not build yet, or dependecy broken
[22:58] <BUGabundo> running a parcial may remove some of your packages
[22:58] <virtuald> ok
[22:59] <virtuald> update manager shows unchecked checkboxes on gconf-editor, info, transmission-common and -gtk.
[22:59] <BUGabundo> yeah
[23:00] <BUGabundo> transmisstions seem be under going some troubles
[23:00] <BUGabundo> right kklimonda ?
[23:00] <virtuald> i can live without those so i guess i'll go ahead
[23:02] <virtuald> hmm it only asks after update, not when i pressed install :p
[23:06] <virtuald> but after download it asked
[23:07] <kklimonda> BUGabundo: hmm? it should be fine in KK
[23:07] <BUGabundo> nope
[23:07] <BUGabundo> it aint updating to me
[23:07] <virtuald> wants to remove hotkey-setup, looks like it's only for laptops
[23:07] <virtuald> afk
[23:08] <kklimonda> BUGabundo: care to paste result of aptitude upgrade?
[23:08] <BUGabundo> sure
[23:08] <BUGabundo> The following packages will be upgraded:
[23:08] <BUGabundo>   gconf-editor transmission-common transmission-gtk
[23:08] <kklimonda> well, use pastebin :P
[23:09] <BUGabundo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/196650/
[23:09] <BUGabundo> humm
[23:09] <BUGabundo> as usual apitude works where apt/UM fail
[23:10] <BUGabundo> virtuald: same advice for you
[23:10] <kklimonda> hmm..
[23:12] <Sarvatt> 1.72 isnt released yet? 1.71 was broken as heck on all my machines, just silently crashes.. not as broken as 1.70 with its 100% cpu usage though :D
[23:13]  * BUGabundo uses vuze
[23:14] <kklimonda> BUGabundo: oh right - 1.71 depends on libevent and normal upgrade don't pull new dependencies
[23:15] <kklimonda> Sarvatt: it should be released today but devs have discovered two more crash bugs so I guess it will be held back.
[23:16] <BUGabundo> kklimonda: made it in to the transm team ?
[23:16] <zcat[1]> ff3.5b4 .. Using it on jaunty, but installed it on karmic and there's no internet connection. same settings as ff3.0.11 which works fine.
[23:17] <Sarvatt> ahh i'll build it again and see if its still crashing, last time i packaged it was svn 8671
[23:18] <kklimonda> BUGabundo: no - I had some things to do after I was back at home. I'll send him an email tomorrow
[23:18] <zcat[1]> http://pastebin.com/m36c4c521
[23:19] <BUGabundo> zcat[1]: using NM or wicd?
[23:19] <zcat[1]> NM (I'm on xchat at the same time; only FF3.5b4 thinks it has no connection)
[23:19] <BUGabundo> zcat[1]: you have EVERY version of Firefox on a PPA from the oficial mozillateam on ubuntu
[23:19] <BUGabundo> why did you install NOT supported packageS?
[23:20] <kklimonda> zcat[1]: looks like you are using 32 bit package installed not from package.
[23:20] <zcat[1]> Hmmm, OK. Will go install the ppa then
[23:20] <kklimonda> zcat[1]: maybe it just doesn't know about NM..
[23:20] <kklimonda> dunno how is done communication between NM and Fx..
[23:20] <BUGabundo> zcat[1]: check https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-daily/+archive/ppa
[23:20] <zcat[1]> I downloaded 64 bit I think.. exact same archine extracted to /opt/firefox on jaunty 64 bit works fine
[23:20] <BUGabundo> it will install FF 3.0/3.5/3.6 in paralel and not replca
[23:21] <zcat[1]> there's a ff3.6?
[23:22] <BUGabundo> im using it
[23:22] <BUGabundo> Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.2a1pre) Gecko/20090613 Ubuntu/9.10 (karmic) Minefield/3.6a1pre ID:20090613185957
[23:23] <zcat[1]> cool, how's it do on acid3?
[23:24] <BUGabundo> read about 96
[23:24] <BUGabundo> try for your self
[23:40] <virtuald> how do i get network-manager to manage?
[23:41] <Tekno_> run nm-applet
[23:41] <BUGabundo> Tekno_: it's the other way around
[23:41] <BUGabundo> that's un-manage
[23:41] <BUGabundo> virtuald: AFAIR it logs a LP bug with more detail
[23:42] <BUGabundo> or you could just ask asac on #ubuntu-mozillateam
[23:43] <yoasif> anyone know how i can get debug information from transmission?
[23:44] <yoasif> my core is dumping
[23:45] <BUGabundo> kklimonda: ^^^^^^^^^^
[23:45] <virtuald> why mozillateam?
[23:47] <kklimonda> yoasif: is it package from official repository?
[23:47] <yoasif> kklimonda, yes
[23:47] <pace_t_zulu> can someone reproduce bug 387548 ? it is karmic specific
[23:48] <kklimonda> yoasif: then it should be enough to start apport and it will handle the rest
[23:48] <yoasif> kklimonda, ubuntu-bug transmission?
[23:48] <kklimonda> yoasif: in terminal do sudo force_start=1 /etc/init.d/apport restart
[23:48] <virtuald> did you know it's supprisingly easy to use an invisible mouse pointer
[23:49] <kklimonda> oh wait, you are using karmic so it has apport enabled..
[23:49] <kklimonda> yoasif: after crash a dialog should appear with a question whenever you want to send a report to developers
[23:49] <yoasif> kklimonda, yeah, i'm not getting an apport collect dialog...
[23:49] <kklimonda> yoasif: check the content of /var/crash folder
[23:50] <BUGabundo> virtuald: asac _lives_ in there LOL
[23:50] <yoasif> kklimonda, _usr_bin_transmission.1000.crash
[23:50] <kklimonda> yoasif: is it new?
[23:51] <yoasif> kklimonda, i can rm it and restart transmission and let it make a new one
[23:51] <kklimonda> yoasif: if so then use apport-cli -c /var/crash/_usr_bin_transmission.1000.crash
[23:51] <virtuald> bugabundo: ok so he does nm?
[23:51] <kklimonda> yoasif: if it's a recent one and not something old then you can just send it
[23:51] <BUGabundo> he _mantains_ it, yes
[23:51] <virtuald> ok
[23:52] <Sarvatt> computer:/// works fine here pace_t_zulu
[23:52] <pace_t_zulu> Sarvatt, thank you
[23:52] <kklimonda> hmm.. I wonder if Vala is going to be widely used by gnome developers..
[23:52] <Sarvatt> it wasnt before though, did you get the nautilus update today?
[23:54] <kklimonda> yoasif: also if you send report you could subscribe me (it's private by default) and I'll check if it isn't something already known (there were at least 3-4 fixes for various crashes since 1.71 was released..
[23:57] <Sarvatt> pace_t_zulu: ah you're missing /usr/lib/gvfs/gvfsd-computer --spawner :1.6 /org/gtk/gvfs/exec_spaw/3 in your ps aux for some reason
[23:58] <BUGabundo> !schedule