[00:27] will karmic keep my raid setup on a fresh install? [00:27] hum [00:27] from LiveCD you mean? [00:27] 'cause Alternate already has it [00:27] i want to do a fresh install, since i used to multi-task this computer with apache,mysql,dovecot,postfix...but im know running the server in a VM so i have no need, and would like a fresh karmic install [00:28] well i already have a raid 1 setup... [00:28] just worried about loosing the data on it if i do a fresh install [00:28] yeah that would suck [00:28] backups ? [00:28] nope, the raid array IS the backup :P [00:29] aahahahahahahaahaha [00:29] then backup the backups [00:29] well i guess if i loose it i loose it [00:30] i do have 1 more disk i could back it all up on [00:30] but its ide, and my / drive and dvdrw are on the only ide header i have [00:31] uggg sounds like too much work [00:34] lol [00:34] well you could just risk it [00:34] FAIL [00:34] haha [00:34] and then have to restore from untested originals [00:35] /dev/sda1 * 1 60801 488384001 fd Linux raid autodetect [00:35] /dev/sdc1 1 60801 488384001 fd Linux raid autodetect [00:35] do you think that karmic install would detect that? and try to auto-start the array? or create a new one? [00:36] thats the fdisk output [00:36] no idea [00:37] oh geez [00:37] well livecd may fail, but you can give it a try [00:37] ill stick to my current system :P [00:37] and wait for a reason to install a klean karmic :P [00:39] wheres a good place to find what changes were made to a package? [00:39] ie i just updated and upgraded, and see there were changes to ubuntu-desktop [00:39] where can i find the changes? [00:40] lp, and on the docs on your system [00:40] can't remmeber the path right now [00:40] just mlocate for it [00:55] anyone having problems keeping firefox bookmarks? [00:55] humm not I noticed [00:55] but I'm having trouble with history [01:00] hola [01:02] hola senior [01:03] polá [01:20] hi everyone [01:21] ola m_tadeu [01:21] is there the madwifi package somewhere around? I don't seem to be able to find it in the repos [02:33] geez no sound in flash blows === FFForever-Away is now known as FFForever === pace_t_zulu_ is now known as pace_t_zulu [05:17] is anyone getting anywhere with the sound issue in karmic? === FFForever is now known as FFForever-Away [07:22] hi [07:22] anyone try the beta yet? [07:23] what are the differences [09:18] Can someone help me; https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/387065 is apparently not a bug, just an installation issue. I've removed (purged) evince, deleted the package and reinstalled it and I still have this 'installation issue' though [09:18] Launchpad bug 387065 in evince "evince refuses to display pdfs" [Low,Incomplete] [09:22] zcat[1]: i'd suggest following what you were told in the bug. [09:23] yeah just noticed that.. other bug report I added to said was an installation issue not a bug.. weird since I can completely remove and reinstall the package and still have the same issue. [09:23] ok, added requested info [09:40] is there a bug for the sound problem already ? [09:41] dupondje: just look @ launchpad? [09:42] there are likely many of them. File a separate one, and it can get duplicated if needed [09:42] sound wfm, fwiw [09:43] can't play sound on audacious & flash @ same time :p === Pici` is now known as Pici [14:33] Howdy all [14:38] hey. === MaWaLe is now known as MosquitoOo [15:37] Hi, did ye tried out Karmic yet? [15:37] ... [15:37] you think? [15:37] :D [15:38] wireless stopped working for me, network manager says "wireless is disabled" and the enable wireless checkbox is greyed out === [perry] is now known as [pErry] [15:47] christophsturm, did you just update ? [15:55] BluesKaj: it happened 3 days ago, now i updated via wired networking and it still doesnt work [15:58] christophsturm, I had a problem with wifi and the fiax was to regress back to the older driver using these cmnds: sudo apt-get remove plasma-widget-network* , then sudo dpkg -i plasma-widget-networkmanagement_0.1~svn951801-1_i386.deb [16:00] christophsturm, after installing you'll have to re-add the network management widgaet to your panel and manage connections should work [16:01] ok, for me it happens with gnome. so its related to a network manager upgrade? === johanvrt is now known as defrysk === nielsslot_ is now known as nielsslot === FFForever-Away is now known as FFForever [18:38] anyone here able to get message filters working correctly in thunderbird? === ripps_ is now known as ripps [19:09] did anybody here get cuda to work on 9.10? [19:10] no need for it [19:12] boas tardes [19:16] no cuda? anybody? [19:20] how about flash/sound problems? anyone getting that working yet? [19:20] ME [19:20] and VLC too [19:20] how did you get your vlc problems fixed? [19:20] if you file them, sub me [19:20] nope! [19:21] oh i thought you got them working :P [19:21] nope :( [19:25] sorry hat to reboot, anybody running cuda on 9.10? [19:26] no [19:26] no as in, you don't use cuda or it doesn't run on 9.10? === thekorn_ is now known as thekorn [19:27] ehe no as in I don't run it Dominik [19:27] hey thekorn [19:27] hello BUGabundo, [19:27] how are things in karmic land [19:29] BUGabundo::: you have vlc-plugins-pulse installed, and made sure vlc is using pulse for audio output, and still no sound eh? [19:31] $ apt-cache policy vlc-plugin-pulse Installed: (none) Candidate: 1.0.0~rc2-1ubuntu1 [19:32] ok... I must have removed it to test [19:33] billybigrigger: plugin installed, output set for PA, NO SOUND [19:33] thekorn: going! nothing much for now [19:37] billybigrigger: Flash is working again here [19:37] flash sound works [19:37] when I start Audacious [19:37] and then try again [19:37] let me check [19:37] no more sound [19:37] when Flash is open, and I press start in audacious [19:37] audacious crashes ... [19:38] humm [19:38] killing pulseaudio, killed firefox yay :( [19:38] muahaha [19:39] If I close audacious I have Flash sound [19:39] else not :s [19:39] hmm [19:39] what output in audacious are you using? [19:39] pulse or alsa? [19:39] it was alsa [19:39] changed to pulse [19:39] gonne game again ;) [19:40] (flash game to test sound) [19:40] :p [19:40] ok [19:40] still no sound [19:40] well i don't have sound, and don't have audacious installed or running [19:40] but maby other programm ? [19:40] that causes same shit :) [19:40] i closed my music app [19:40] and nothing [19:42] haha [19:42] I managed to break it [19:42] :x [19:42] tried Flash & Audacious @ same time [19:42] resulting in no more sound in both of them [19:42] :x [19:43] ah its back now, sound volume of ALSA player went to 0% :s [19:43] wtf :) [19:45] When I lower volume of PulseAudio, the volume bar of ALSA changes also [19:45] and under 50% of PulseAudio, ALSA is muted [19:45] :s [19:46] yeah [19:46] I had that before alpha1 [19:46] I think now mine is better [19:46] it was really bad.. Volume bellow 60% was = MUTE [19:53] strange [19:54] ALSA sound shouldn't change when changing PulseAudio sound ? [19:54] should [19:55] alright guys how can I get ethernet drivers from the .30 kernel and get them to run in 8.04 [19:55] Dominik: humm no... [19:56] Dominik: but I can get the full kernel .30 on hardy [19:56] not sure it will work dough [19:56] Dominik: you need kernel Mainline PPA [19:56] BUGabundo1: it should ? but change the same height, and now below 50% = mute ? ;) [19:57] ahh not that [19:57] (07:54:12 PM) dupondje: ALSA sound shouldn't change when changing PulseAudio sound ? [19:57] i got full .30 kernel on 8.04 but it just craped out on me big time [19:57] Dominik: yeah! it can happen [19:57] Dominik: can't you upgrade to 9.04? [19:58] or karmic 9.10a2? [19:58] i need cuda [19:58] there are no cuda drivers for 9.10 :( [19:58] get a new card? [19:58] :) [19:58] it is the newest there is [19:59] its just nvidea hasn't released cuda drivers for 9.04 [19:59] let alone 9.10 [19:59] :( [20:00] hi everyone [20:00] ola m_tadeu [20:00] apt-get si reporting backports modules as broken [20:02] is there something I can do about it? === BUGabundo1 is now known as BUGabundo [20:03] m_tadeu no idea! [20:03] wait a bit ? [20:03] I did not know karmic had backports with anything! [20:04] and upgrades to it :) [20:08] I can not do ifup or ifdown any more, can I? [20:11] why not ? [20:17] maby u need to put 'sudo' in front of it ;) [20:17] but no you can't without config [20:18] as most of the config is done by NetworkManager ;) [20:30] oki....gonna check that out, then....just want to know how it's done via command line [20:35] part [20:58] I updated to grub2 and it told me to run update-from-grub-legacy when everything looked good. But I don't have such a command...anyone? [21:00] rleeds: http://www.techenclave.com/guides-and-tutorials/grub-2-installation-92883.html [21:00] may help [21:00] ive not used grub2 as grub works fine [21:01] ActionParsnip, no such luck. [21:01] ActionParsnip, Ahh...maybe I can just dpkg-reconfigure it and tell it to write to the MBR [21:01] ActionParsnip, ....nope [21:01] whats the problem? [21:02] have you rebooted yet? [21:02] billybigrigger, The update-from-grub-legacy that's supposed to remove the chainload from grub doesn't exist [21:02] Yes, I have. [21:02] billybigrigger, ohh...wait...is that a command in grub2 or a command I'm supposed to run after bootup? [21:02] I've been searching for something in my path [21:02] after bootup [21:02] billybigrigger, yeah...no such command on my machine [21:04] what about update-grub2 [21:05] that will spit out a G2 config file [21:05] if you don't have one [21:06] hmmm [21:06] sudo upgrade-from-grub-legacy [21:06] i have it on my machine [21:07] hey [21:07] sudo upgrade-from auto completes for me [21:07] what is repository of ubuntu karmic koala [21:07] what do you mean? [21:07] what are you wanting? [21:07] billybigrigger, I'm wanting that. No autocomplete for me. Command not found. [21:08] i want repos for karmic koala [21:08] lucas_::: change jaunty to karmic in your apt sources [21:08] why do you want them? [21:08] are you looking to upgrade? [21:08] yeah [21:08] well thats not the way to upgrade [21:08] hmm [21:09] what is the way [21:09] http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/karmic/alpha1#Upgrading%20from%20Ubuntu%209.04 [21:09] rleeds::: don't know what to tell you [21:10] rleeds::: you might have to reconfigure, or purge the grub2 upgrade and try again [21:10] rleeds::: how did you upgrade to grub2? [21:10] billybigrigger, sudo aptitude install grub2 [21:11] hmm... purge and reinstall doesn't help. [21:12] maybe try SGD [21:13] im sorry im not much help, but my transition to legacy to G2 was good :P [21:13] SGD? [21:13] SGD being Super Grub Disk [21:14] lucas_: please DON'T change sources to upgrade [21:14] no [21:14] lucas_: use update-manager -d [21:14] i use update-manager -d [21:14] ok then [21:14] rleeds::: http://www.techenclave.com/guides-and-tutorials/grub-2-installation-92883.html [21:14] what is the difference [21:14] and please read the release notes too, before upgrading [21:14] billybigrigger, thanks [21:14] rleeds::: try update-grub [21:15] billybigrigger, nah...that just updates the grub configuration. [21:16] isn't that what you want? [21:17] make sure your root (hdX,X) is set properly and update grub [21:18] billybigrigger, It runs fine and it updates the grub configuration, but it's still set to chainload to grub 2 with grub 1 installed in the MBR [21:20] any one read https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-karmic-audio-experience ? [21:20] are we getting gnome-volume-control-pulse *again* ? [21:23] BUGabundo, looks like it: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1186282 [21:25] BUGabundo::: alsa 1.0.20? [21:25] is that what your using? [21:27] billybigrigger: checking [21:27] ~$ apt-cache policy alsa-base [21:27] Installed: 1.0.20+dfsg-1ubuntu4 [21:27] hmm...thats the newest alsa driver available as well... [21:28] checked alsa's site... [21:28] i thought maybe a newer kernel driver might help out these flash audio issues [21:40] anyone tracking https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/foundations-karmic-swapfile ? [21:49] Newly installed Vmare server will not finish install due to error in config.pl [21:50] is this due to the new linux kernel being in compatible with Vmare [21:50] everything else works perfect [21:53] anyone home [21:54] thegodsquirrel: pong [21:57] ping lol [21:59] hmmmmm [22:00] well that must mean either dumb question or no one is here [22:01] I'm here [22:01] ence the pong [22:01] sorry I havent used IRC in a long time I am rusty on the lingo and I dont know what PONG is [22:03] thegodsquirrel: in IRC language (and submarine too) pong follows an ping [22:03] where it asks if the other party is there [22:03] you asked "anyone home" I replied [22:03] gotcha [22:03] did you see the question I habd [22:04] *had [22:04] I am using virtual box as a replacement but I would like VMware back [22:05] https://edge.launchpad.net/hundredpapercuts <-- Interesting.... :o [22:06] I did [22:06] and I can't help [22:06] cripe [22:06] Twigathy: everyone been tallking about that for a week [22:06] BUGabundo: I'm not active enough =) === DanaG1 is now known as DanaG [22:07] from what I read, creating a project was a mistake [22:07] lol [22:08] eep [22:12] thanks for the link, I posted it [22:13] hopefully it will be fixed in the final RC [22:14] mmm :) wanted to enable compiz, and it fails :p [22:14] but no real error :s [22:15] dupondje: $ compiz --replace [22:15] Twigathy::: ya i was just reading up on that 100paperclip thing [22:15] s/clip/cuts [22:17] billybigrigger: LOLOL [22:17] Solution to 100 paper clips: 1 large electromagnet? :) === yofel_ is now known as yofel [22:18] heh [22:18] BUGabundo: then it works ... :s [22:18] aahhha [22:21] any id ? :) [22:22] dupondje: lost context! [22:22] compiz running or not? [22:22] Composite enabled or not? [22:22] when I do compiz --replace it runs [22:22] GPU supports it or not? [22:22] when I do it in GUI, it doesn't :( [22:22] dupondje: for 1y I've been running compiz --repload after *every* boot [22:22] :( [22:23] I have fusionicon on hand to do that [22:23] wtf :) [22:23] and alias on .bashrc [22:23] alias compizB='DISPLAY=:0 compiz --replace &' [22:23] alias compizC='DISPLAY=:0 compiz --reload &' [22:23] dupondje: not funny [22:24] workaround on the bug: disable Composti [22:24] yeah right and lose GnomeDO Glass skin ! NO WAY [22:26] bugs shouldbugs should be fixed :D [22:29] is there somewhere a list of all shortcuts in Compiz ? :p [22:29] cause If u don't know any, its like boring ? ;) [22:31] you know metacity can do compositing too right BUGabundo? [22:31] Sarvatt: I have it on! [22:31] that's MY bug [22:31] dupondje: check compiz home page wiki [22:32] all of them there [22:32] tip: super+f12 [22:32] oh compiz cant start when you have metacity compositing on... [22:32] super+shift+mouse click [22:32] Sarvatt: right! [22:32] and without it [22:32] i lose GnomeDO Glass skin ! NO WAY [22:32] * BUGabundo checks for bug report [22:33] https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/178953 [22:33] Launchpad bug 178953 in metacity "Cannot switch to Compiz if Metacity compositor is enabled" [Undecided,Fix released] [22:33] Sarvatt: where u disable that ? :D [22:33] see how old that is ? [22:33] fixed?? [22:33] let me check it [22:33] compiz (Ubuntu) Triaged [22:34] right! compiz task still opened [22:34] mmm, super+f12 doesn't do shit here :) [22:34] dupondje: DUH. enable fire first [22:34] huh? you arent using metacity compositing if you enable compiz, why dont you just disable metacity compositing so it can start fine on its own? [22:36] dupondje: run gconf-editor, go to apps > metacity > general and theres a compositing_manager checkbox [22:36] Sarvatt: I could try _again_, but last time it failed to work [22:37] I know where it is... I uncheked it once [22:37] it booted ok, Compiz started but I lost composite on compiz too [22:39] Sarvatt: /apps/metacity/general/compositing_manager disable [22:39] will test on next boot [22:40] and hope you are here too, so I can head slap you eheh :) [22:45] nice :) [22:45] Compiz enabled with Layout :) [22:45] workin! :) [22:46] ah? [22:46] hey RAOF === Tukon77 is now known as Tukon [22:52] Hmm, gonna try Kubuntu Karmic Alpha [22:54] is it bad to do a partial upgrade? [22:55] when update-manager prompts [22:56] virtuald: YES [22:57] Well, maybe. [22:57] hi [22:58] hi soc1 [22:58] does someone know which package has the default settings for gnome? [22:58] virtuald: usuallu it means some packages are not build yet, or dependecy broken [22:58] running a parcial may remove some of your packages [22:58] ok [22:59] update manager shows unchecked checkboxes on gconf-editor, info, transmission-common and -gtk. [22:59] yeah [23:00] transmisstions seem be under going some troubles [23:00] right kklimonda ? [23:00] i can live without those so i guess i'll go ahead [23:02] hmm it only asks after update, not when i pressed install :p [23:06] but after download it asked [23:07] BUGabundo: hmm? it should be fine in KK [23:07] nope [23:07] it aint updating to me [23:07] wants to remove hotkey-setup, looks like it's only for laptops [23:07] afk [23:08] BUGabundo: care to paste result of aptitude upgrade? [23:08] sure [23:08] The following packages will be upgraded: [23:08] gconf-editor transmission-common transmission-gtk [23:08] well, use pastebin :P [23:09] http://paste.ubuntu.com/196650/ [23:09] humm [23:09] as usual apitude works where apt/UM fail [23:10] virtuald: same advice for you [23:10] hmm.. [23:12] 1.72 isnt released yet? 1.71 was broken as heck on all my machines, just silently crashes.. not as broken as 1.70 with its 100% cpu usage though :D [23:13] * BUGabundo uses vuze [23:14] BUGabundo: oh right - 1.71 depends on libevent and normal upgrade don't pull new dependencies [23:15] Sarvatt: it should be released today but devs have discovered two more crash bugs so I guess it will be held back. [23:16] kklimonda: made it in to the transm team ? [23:16] ff3.5b4 .. Using it on jaunty, but installed it on karmic and there's no internet connection. same settings as ff3.0.11 which works fine. [23:17] ahh i'll build it again and see if its still crashing, last time i packaged it was svn 8671 [23:18] BUGabundo: no - I had some things to do after I was back at home. I'll send him an email tomorrow [23:18] http://pastebin.com/m36c4c521 [23:19] zcat[1]: using NM or wicd? [23:19] NM (I'm on xchat at the same time; only FF3.5b4 thinks it has no connection) [23:19] zcat[1]: you have EVERY version of Firefox on a PPA from the oficial mozillateam on ubuntu [23:19] why did you install NOT supported packageS? [23:20] zcat[1]: looks like you are using 32 bit package installed not from package. [23:20] Hmmm, OK. Will go install the ppa then [23:20] zcat[1]: maybe it just doesn't know about NM.. [23:20] dunno how is done communication between NM and Fx.. [23:20] zcat[1]: check https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-daily/+archive/ppa [23:20] I downloaded 64 bit I think.. exact same archine extracted to /opt/firefox on jaunty 64 bit works fine [23:20] it will install FF 3.0/3.5/3.6 in paralel and not replca [23:21] there's a ff3.6? [23:22] im using it [23:22] Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.2a1pre) Gecko/20090613 Ubuntu/9.10 (karmic) Minefield/3.6a1pre ID:20090613185957 [23:23] cool, how's it do on acid3? [23:24] read about 96 [23:24] try for your self [23:40]