[12:50] <thorwil> kwwii: i don't think splitting Backgrounds is a job for more than one person
[12:50] <thorwil> kwwii: but now that i want to do it, i have to wonder how to deal with the attachments
[12:51] <thorwil> if is use "copy page", will the copy also have copied attachments?
[12:55] <thorwil> hi rsc___, SiDi
[12:55] <thorwil> kwwii: a test shows that "copy page" indeed also results in copied attachments
[12:55] <SiDi> hi thorwil
[12:58] <thorwil> SiDi: i'm currently considering to do the Backgrounds split by first creating copies of it as the new sub-pages
[12:58] <thorwil> SiDi: but in that case, i will have to go through the attachments to delete was isn't used on each page
[12:59] <kwwii> thorwil: yeah, I was thinking the same thing but since you said you wanted to tackle the problem I figured I should offer my help ;)
[12:59] <kwwii> I do not think that copying the page will also copy the attachments
[13:00] <thorwil> kwwii: it does. i tried
[13:00] <kwwii> erm, reading up it seems it does
[13:00] <kwwii> :p
[13:00] <thorwil> heh
[13:00] <kwwii> I should read all the logs before responding
[13:01] <kwwii> in case anyone is interested in the wierd music I like, check out this sampler: http://www.subpop.com/cybersex
[13:01] <kwwii> and no, it is not a virus :p
[13:03] <thorwil> wow, that's really this-millennium webdesign ... what am i saying? - web-art!
[13:04]  * macvr thinks kwwii like the Paris kind ! :P
[13:05] <thorwil> ok people, stay away from Backgrounds now for a bit! :)
[13:05] <macvr> thorwil: is bazaar down again?
[13:06] <thorwil> macvr: huh? you mean Launchpad? i wouldn't notice
[13:06] <SiDi> thorwil: you dont hope me to help you delete the attachments, do you ? :D
[13:06] <kwwii> thorwil: I'll send an email to the list stating that nobody should touch that page until you give the green light
[13:06] <macvr> ok
[13:06] <thorwil> kwwii: nah, list too slow
[13:06] <thorwil> SiDi: well, would you? :)
[13:06] <macvr> kwwii: doesnt the wiki just warn if someone is editing the page?
[13:07] <thorwil> macvr: yes, but i'm not editing the main page during the entire operation
[13:07] <SiDi> thorwil: dunno... staying an hour in the shower sounds tempting right now
[13:08] <thorwil> SiDi: an hour in the shower will turn you into a frog!
[13:08] <macvr> thorwil: what makes you think he isnt one already? :P
[13:08] <SiDi> thorwil: im french. i'm already a frog
[13:08] <macvr> ^ see
[13:09] <thorwil> SiDi: oh, i though it was frog-eater, not just frog! ;)
[13:09] <SiDi> we're called the frogs :(
[13:09] <SiDi> i never ate any frog though
[13:09] <SiDi> but ive heard its tasty
[13:09] <SiDi> (greek people eat a lot of these too)
[13:10] <kwwii> I have eaten lots of frogs and they are delicous
[13:10] <macvr> here after i'm going to try to speak to SiDi in french... :P    i'm forgetting french
[13:10] <kwwii> we used to catch them at home and make frog legs
[13:10] <SiDi> macvr: feel free to do so :p
[13:10] <SiDi> eew kwwii poor little frogs Q.Q
[13:11] <kwwii> ;)
[13:11] <macvr> SiDi: you should have noticed the emphasis was i'll TRY ... :P
[13:12] <thorwil> i *ing hat that surge protection
[13:12] <thorwil> hate, even
[13:12] <andreasn> hi kwwii, back from vacation?
[13:13] <kwwii> andreasn: yeah, haven't edited the pics yet though :)
[13:13] <rsc___> sup folks.
[13:13] <rsc___> :)
[13:13] <SiDi> heya
[13:13] <kwwii> andreasn: I am fresh and ready for work :p
[13:13] <macvr> thorwil: did u have time to check the wiki submissions? default emblem?
[13:13] <kwwii> just signing up for the gran canaria summit in a couple of weeks
[13:13] <thorwil> macvr: it chnaged from yesterday?
[13:14] <kwwii> apparently it is hard to find a hotel room
[13:14] <kwwii> hi rsc___
[13:14] <macvr> thorwil: i had uploaded 2 yesterday... comments?
[13:15] <andreasn> kwwii, good to hear, looking forward to see you there
[13:15] <andreasn> yeah, the hotel situation is a bit tricky
[13:16] <kwwii> andreasn: hopefully the weather will be nice and I can just sleep on the beach :p
[13:17] <andreasn> the Low Budget and Being Robbed Option
[13:17] <thorwil> could have a future in hard economic times
[13:19] <kwwii> I am amazed that canonical is paying this time and I don't have to take vacation ;)
[13:19] <SiDi> kwwii: no beach then :O
[13:21] <thorwil> now i get the surge protection warning everytime i try to get on the Backgrounds attachments page :(
[13:22] <SiDi> of course, you wiki spammer
[13:23] <thorwil> that's really unfortunate, as i just wanted to download everything for safety
[13:25] <kwwii> thorwil: let me see if I can do it
[13:25] <kwwii> wow, that is a lot of attachments
[13:26] <thorwil> kwwii: yeah, do you happen to have the FF extension DownThemAll or similar? ;)
[13:26] <SiDi> i has it
[13:26] <kwwii> thorwil: no but I will get it if it helps
[13:26]  * thorwil has it for mass-downloading of anatomical reference images of of course purely artistic interest!
[13:27] <SiDi> purely artistic, indeed.
[13:29] <macvr> SiDi: could you check if this link works for you? http://bazaar.launchpad.net/%7Ebreathe-dev/breathe-icon-set/trunk/download/head:/mailsend.svg-20090503012016-es0diogovhzmsc27-32/mail-send.svg
[13:30] <thorwil> macvr: of course, this wiki doesn't deliver images to me on the Breathe page, either
[13:31] <thorwil> wiki wacky
[13:31] <SiDi> macvr: it does
[13:31] <macvr> this particular svg i'm not able to grab... rest of the links work for me
[13:31] <SiDi> and its crazily sexy :D
[13:31] <macvr> SiDi: could u upload that file somewhere?
[13:32] <SiDi> macvr: where should i upload it ? :/
[13:32] <macvr> SiDi: any file host? http://filebin.ca/
[13:32] <kwwii> hrm, how in the world does this downthemall work?
[13:33] <SiDi> kwwii: :D
[13:33] <macvr> i'v been trying to to get that svg for nearly 30 mins!
[13:33] <thorwil> kwwii: righ-click on dead space on the page, select DownThemALL
[13:33] <SiDi> http://filebin.ca/qoyojh/mail-send.svg macvr
[13:34] <kwwii> thorwil: yeah, and then I get 1542 different background.html pages
[13:35] <kwwii> 1532, sorry
[13:35] <macvr> SiDi: got it... thanx! that file was driving me crazy :/
[13:35] <kwwii> wow, it seems to want to download the entire wiki
[13:37] <thorwil> kwwii: from the attachments page, it should be no problem to use the "Links" tab and use "Images" as filter, perhaps
[13:37] <kwwii> thorwil: yeah, but now the surge protection is getting me too
[13:38] <thorwil> ugly beast, developed by satan himself in 9th hell!!!
[13:38] <kwwii> no dobut
[13:38] <kwwii> and the warning that is will only get worse is pretty crappy
[13:39] <kwwii> guess I'll wait a bit and hope that it works
[14:00] <kwwii> hi arusha
[14:03] <arusha> hi ken, how are you?
[14:04] <kwwii> good, getting back to the grind after a nice holiday with the family
[14:07] <thorwil> kwwii: logged out and now downloading them all ... meanwhile coffee, bbl
[14:10] <kwwii> thorwil: funny, logging out is a work-around for the surge protection
[14:10] <kwwii> so non-members are treated better than members
[14:11] <kwwii> erm, I take that back
[14:12] <kwwii> after a few of them downloaded it stopped
[14:17] <arusha> kwwii, sorry I am now in a meeting
[15:12] <arusha> kwwii, back
[16:41] <thorwil> kwwii: the first 2 sections at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Karmic/Backgrounds/ mare a bit confusing
[16:43] <thorwil> kwwii: whatever happened to the adjectives/slogans
[16:44] <thorwil> kwwii: and what part of that should stay on the main page and what should be on the Backgrounds/Default page?
[16:44] <thorwil> kwwii: and "default" rather means included in the default install, not necessarily the one preselected background, right?
[16:56] <kwwii> thorwil: cool, I will take a look in a bit, got a meeting in a minute
[16:56] <kwwii> hrm, the slogans an adjectives should still be there I think
[16:56] <kwwii> I did not remove them
[16:57] <kwwii> thorwil: well, I use default for the selected ubuntu wallpaper
[16:57] <kwwii> and the other wallpapers are for the extra wallpaper package (which hopefully will also be on the install disk
[16:57] <kwwii> )
[16:57] <thorwil> ah, ok
[16:58] <thorwil> does someone here know how one could script clicking links on a webpage that reloads after each such click (attachments page)?
[17:04] <knome> what do you mean?
[17:05] <thorwil> knome: on pages like https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Karmic/Backgrounds/Default?action=AttachFile i need to click all the right [del] links ...
[17:10] <knome> thorwil, do you reckon even a normal form with checkboxes and "update" status would be better?
[17:10] <thorwil> knome: yeah
[17:11] <thorwil> but i have this specific problem to solve
[17:13] <kwwii> if anyone knows how to do it I would think mr nuzum would be the best person to ask
[17:13] <thorwil> kwwii: sure, once he wakes up/appears ;)
[17:16] <kwwii> well, I already talked to him today and I am currently on the phone with him in a meeting
[17:17] <kwwii> so he should be around sometime
[17:17] <thorwil> quite a number of people used filenames as suggested, but there's a killer with files like IMGP0001_s.JPG
[17:17] <kwwii> I will tell him to join the channel at the end of the meeting
[17:17] <thorwil> kwwii: thanks, but i'm also in -website ;)
[17:17] <kwwii> cool
[18:40] <thorwil> please someone check if all the images appear on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Karmic/Backgrounds/Default
[18:55] <thorwil> nm
[19:11] <macvr> thorwil: hi, could you comment on the new emblems i'v uploaded?
[19:15] <thorwil> macvr: emblem-default appears needlessly complicated to me. a checkmark in on shield with an outline
[19:15] <thorwil> that curve still looks odd
[19:15] <macvr> :(
[19:15] <macvr> rest?
[19:16] <thorwil> macvr: emblem-mail should be similar to the mail envelope in use elsewhere
[19:17] <macvr> i could do that but, all the icon set do the same... hence i wanted to do differently :P
[19:17] <macvr> thorwil: also what if the fuss about the media icons? horizontal flipping the media forward should do it right?
[19:17] <macvr> is^
[19:17] <macvr> for the media back
[19:18] <thorwil> macvr: didn't those have lighting shifted to the right?
[19:20] <macvr> they are white ... other than the border darkness i cant make out any light!
[19:49] <thorwil> kwwii: just send an email, asking for volunteers to help with deleting the redundant attachments. newz had thsi same idea independently and nothing else to offer
[20:19] <kwwii> thorwil: saw it, good work...I'll do my part as well
[20:19] <thorwil> kwwii: ty, cool