[00:05] nixternal: ping [00:05] humm still blocked! [00:05] did you get that last reply? [00:05] seems not! its not on your page [00:05] http://identi.ca/nixternal/replies [00:05] "bugabundo: @nixternal ahaha i just got your reply so it should be working! now: can u handle >30 dents/day ?" [01:01] ping hggdh [01:04] I want to run a reply by someone to make sure it's not too harsh [01:05] micahg: shoot [01:05] I'm sleepy so don't expect a much clear answer [01:05] then maybe I should wait for someone else :) [01:06] http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/195991/ answer to bug [01:06] bug 355476 [01:06] Launchpad bug 355476 in firefox-3.0 "32-bit firefox should be included in AMD64 (x86-64) distribution" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/355476 [01:07] micahg: i don't think its a bad response [01:08] humm [01:08] waint that a WontFix ? [01:08] speacially for 3.0 [01:08] [01:09] well he _can_ run it! [01:09] nah, it can just sit there, otherwise, we'll get constant back and forth which I'm trying to mitigate with my response [01:09] as long as he has ia32libs [01:09] and FORCE the install for 32 bits for firefox, it should be installabel [01:10] micahg: tell him this ^ [01:10] make him to the work for the "complaining" [01:11] BUGabundo: I've never done it before, so I cannot advise him on how to do it [01:11] you're welcome to post that in the morning [01:11] but I don't know if we support it [01:11] eheh nice ending "in the morning" [01:12] well I don't think we don't NOT support it [01:12] I mean, its in the archive [01:12] hey asac [01:12] ping asac_ [01:13] His client probably just reconnected [01:16] yeha === Mr is now known as Guest42585 === asac_ is now known as asac [01:30] micahg, pong [01:31] oh, hi [01:31] hi :-) [01:31] I wanted feedback on something [01:31] shoot [01:31] but I think I got it [01:31] heh. Nothing better than being late, I guess ;-) [01:31] I just wanted to know if this was over the top [01:31] http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/195991/ [01:31] looking at it, micahg [01:32] * micahg already sent it, so I hope it's not bad :) [01:32] well, not really. It is sort of direct to the point (er, just a bit on the dry side) [01:33] ok [01:33] ahh [01:33] is dry bad? [01:33] * BUGabundo offers some ice [01:33] micahg: well it may not calm him down as much as you wanted [01:34] micahg, no, dry is not bad. It is just I feel a 'please', or 'thank you' thrown in may look nicier [01:34] oh well [01:34] ah [01:34] I usually do [01:35] but -- I guess -- you had it with this one [01:35] :-) [01:35] others probably would've done what BUGabundo suggested and just mark Won't Fix [01:35] yeah [01:36] let me look at the bug [01:37] I know what it's like working on software [01:37] it's just annoying when people get pushy demanding things in free software [01:37] micahg: either wontfix or invaled [01:37] its part of the game [01:37] the user *can* install 32 bits [01:37] but I do endeavor to be polite [01:38] I think wishlist is still correct. There are some valid points (probably) on the request [01:39] hggdh: I consulted you originally on this [01:40] yes, I saw my entry there [01:40] he can make a proposal and see the feedback he gets [01:40] my guess is there will be a lot of people like BUGabundo saying it's unnecessary [01:41] and then we don't look like the bad guy :) [01:42] well, this is (some sort of) democracy... [01:43] gotta walk the dogs. BRB [01:44] hggdh: post pics of them latter!! === Mr is now known as Wellichen [02:30] Does anyone knows if I it is possible Reading OpenPGP E-mail on hotmail. [03:30] Hello. What markup is used in launchpad when reporting a bug? === pace_t_zulu_ is now known as pace_t_zulu [06:21] good morning [06:21] morning === micahg1 is now known as micahg [09:15] kklimonda: http://pastebin.com/m716938ce ;) [09:15] askand: 1.72 was released ;) [09:16] but I have sent it to developer [09:17] askand: Försäkran "tr_isAddress( b )" falsk. <- Does it mean something like "Assertion "tr_isAddress( b )" failed." ? [09:18] yeah, looks like it [10:05] kklimonda: yes, that is correct :) I will try 1.72 then === ogra__ is now known as ogra === Pici` is now known as Pici [15:03] Boo === ejat is now known as e-jat [17:23] bdmurray, any idea of when LP will support classified attachments (i.e., plublic/private)? [17:24] hggdh: no, and I'm not familiar with a bug for that [17:27] will search -- I found it some time ago. [17:28] bdmurray, anyway -- I am considering adding two new attachments -- anonimised ThreadStacktrace and Stacktrace, and leaving the originals for verification by the triager [17:29] hggdh: and those could be removed by a bug control member? [17:29] so that if the cleanup is, er, excessive, we can go back; if it is good, we can just delete the originals [17:29] yes [17:29] maybe a diff would be easier? [17:29] adding also a diff? [17:30] Maybe just an anonimized and a diff [17:30] It'd be hard to make the original again though... [17:30] ah. Cool, yes, much better [17:30] well, you can always run patch against it [17:31] But you'd have to add a whole new attachment to the bug report [17:31] with a -R [17:31] I think that'd be the exception though [17:32] probably, yes. But I worry about initial implementation, until we are sure I am not messing too much [17:33] In that case add the diff and the original [17:33] then just drop the original [17:33] ok [17:33] I think the diff will be easier to inspect than 2 attachments [17:34] a [17:34] * hggdh nods [19:13] boas tardes [19:13] hey bencrisford [19:13] hey === thekorn_ is now known as thekorn [19:36] bdmurray, I just sent you the new source_evolution.py [19:36] hey hggdh [19:36] learning a new language by programming is fun ;-) [19:37] hey BUGabundo [19:37] aahah === BUGabundo1 is now known as BUGabundo [21:37] was someone here reporting trouble with Transmission? [21:38] charles_: talk to kklimonda! he _tries_ to maintain it [21:39] BUGabundo: tries? tries?!!! ;) [21:40] don't you ? [21:40] btw HIIII [21:41] hey, what's up? How is a weather in portugal? :) [21:41] sunny today [21:41] yesterday was a drag [21:58] Anyone know if bugs in gnome-panel's weather go against gnome-applets or gnome-panel? [22:01] not me [22:04] libgweather-common or libgweather AFAIK - but double check by looking at existing bugs [22:04] mr_pouit, ^ [22:04] mrooney, ^ - sorry mr_pouit [22:04] MagicFab_: so it would be against the library even if it could be a UI issue? [22:06] mr_pouit, "depends". As I said, check existing closed bugs to see which most closely matches [22:06] mrooney: the right component is gnome-panel for weather issues [22:07] MagicFab_: looks like you need a better IRC client ;) [22:07] hey MagicFab_ seb128 pedro_ [22:07] mrooney: if you're having problems with the locations, like latitude not being correct etc , that's a libgweather issue [22:07] hi BUGabundo [22:07] salut seb128 [22:07] hey BUGabundo [22:08] pedro_: ah okay so bug 387477 is probably a libgweather? [22:08] Launchpad bug 387477 in ubuntu "weather 2.26.1 doesn't show temperature anymore" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/387477 [22:08] seb128, how do we add an apport package hook to Evolution? [22:09] mrooney: yep looks like it is [22:09] okay thanks I shall mark it as such! [22:10] no problem :-) === yofel_ is now known as yofel [22:19] re [22:19] hggdh, hi, you were asking? [22:19] ro [22:21] hi seb128 yes. I have coded a package-hook for Evo (mostly anonimyser on the stacktrace), and I am unsure on how to propose it [22:22] hggdh, the hooks are used when reporting bugs, I doubt you manage to change the coredump which is a binary do you? [22:22] hggdh, that seems a good tool to run on the retracers though [22:23] seb128, no, the package hook is called after apport-retrace gets done with it, so all I change is the generated BTs [22:26] hum [22:26] I don't know about those hooks [22:26] or apport itself.... Anyway, the hooks get called when the report is prepared [22:26] I know about apport hooks to include informations in a bug report [22:27] well, usually you get the bug sent to the server [22:27] the first version contain the coredump and non debug stacktraces [22:27] yes, then apport-retrace does it magic [22:27] then the retracer do their job and upload retraced stacktraces [22:27] and, as far as I can understand, it then calls any hooks available [22:27] oh, both the retraced and non-retraced ones would need to be scrubbed... [22:27] but it doesn't include the apport hook informations [22:28] I doubt of it but better to ask pitti [22:28] will ask him tomorrow. Actually, let me run a retrace here & upload a new bug [22:28] the information collecting happens usually on the client machine [22:29] non on the datacenter retracer [22:29] non -> not [22:29] right, and the package hook is used on the client machine [22:29] so the non-retraced Stacktrace.txt would be scrubbed but not the retraced one [22:29] using the package hook that hggdh has [22:30] oy vey [22:30] that's my understanding too but that's not what we want [22:31] well its half of what we'd want [22:33] but not enough. I will sigsegv my Evo, and try [22:33] with apport-retrace === Mr is now known as Guest96646 === Guest96646 is now known as wellichen [22:42] nah [22:42] will ping ping pitti tomorrow [22:42] nah? [22:43] bdmurray: aka not working [22:43] it seems apport-retrace knows the difference on being run on the canonical servers or on my machine :-( [22:43] so will have to dig into it, and talk with pitti [22:43] a very common sentence in Portuguese, right hggdh [22:43] yes :-) [22:45] generically meaning did not, will not, should not , or is is just plain wrong [22:45] like did not work [22:46] I'm familiar with the word just wanted more information ;-) [22:46] ahahha [22:47] yeah it can be *very* ambigous [22:47] even in context [22:49] bdmurray, so we are sort of stuck right now. This needs to be run on both the local machine and on the retracer. We will need a change in apport-retrace, methinks [22:53] Right, I think this is good though as it can be used by other packages too [22:54] the Miscellaneous part of the hook is still useful too [22:56] I agree. Obviously, the BT anonymiser has to be customised for each package [23:05] any one know the dupe of bug 387529 ? [23:05] Launchpad bug 387529 in gnome-power-manager "screen goes black after a while even when typing" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/387529 [23:08] kklimonda: were you or was it cwillu who asked me this week about a similar bug? [23:08] BUGabundo: not me [23:10] then it was cwillu [23:14] hello everybody, I'm starting today! [23:15] Anyone can help me with some doubts on BugTracking [23:16] hey wellichen. welcome [23:16] what can we do for you? [23:17] I want to know if you follow some kind of plan to seek for bugs. [23:17] * BUGabundo thinks over and over should apply for team, too. wanna join kklimonda? [23:17] wellichen: well no [23:17] BUGabundo: too lazy.. ;) [23:17] j/k [23:17] everyone does as they like more [23:17] BUGabundo: I think i'll apply soon as in next few weeks [23:17] kklimonda: I'm not.! im too lazy too [23:17] drag me along [23:18] Um I understand. [23:18] wellichen: some check the list of most recent bugs, others their fab packages, etc [23:18] you can even join on #ubuntu-bugs-announce [23:18] and see new bugs coming in [23:19] ehehehe, I was idling there for few days.. lost of noise ;) [23:19] lots* [23:21] I know [23:21] I stop beeing there [23:21] too much for even a _spammer_ like me [23:24] BUGabundo : From where are you from? [23:24] PT [23:25] Portugal? [23:25] yes [23:26] Cool! [23:26] Hot. but okay [23:26] :) [23:27] Lisboa? [23:27] ah no [23:27] Gondomar (Porto). conheces? [23:28] ahh um compatriota do brasil [23:28] Nao, nunca estive em Portugal [23:29] hggdh: um dias deste renomeamos o canal para $ubuntu-bugs-pt [23:29] lolol [23:29] Ah sim Brasileiro :) [23:29] hahaha [23:30] Tem muitos que falam portugues por aqui, neh? [23:30] wiecie czemu językiem "urzędowym" kanału jest Angielski? [23:31] because it's the only language we all have in common :P [23:32] wellichen: yeah there are few of us [23:32] afaik, im the only in Portugal, dough [23:33] kklimonda: luv you too ** [23:33] D'OH [23:34] kklimonda : sorry I just get happy in finding a fellas that speak Portuguese too! [23:37] + * When membership expires you should put yourself down for the next membership board for reapproval every 2 years. [23:37] humm [23:37] the membership rules changed ? [23:37] why? [23:37] hggdh: now we need to retake it ? [23:37] kklimonda: now idea! just got that email [23:38] and what has changed? [23:39] just that [23:39] http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership [23:40] need to ping jorge on that [23:42] can someone please confirm bug Post-Boards Debauchery [23:43] oops... bad paste [23:43] ahaahahaahaha [23:43] con someone please confirm bug 387548 [23:43] Launchpad bug 387548 in ubuntu "Could not display "computer:///"." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/387548 [23:43] I've done worse, don't worry pace_t_zulu [23:43] BUGabundo: hehe [23:43] pace_t_zulu: I can't! [23:43] BUGabundo: you're not getting the same behavior? [23:44] haven't read it [23:44] but if it is what you asked yesterday, I can't [23:45] BUGabundo, i wasn't asking anything yesterday... i just filed it [23:45] BUGabundo, this is for current Karmic [23:45] then someone did [23:46] BUGabundo, retake what? [23:46] hggdh: membership meeting every two years [23:46] hggdh: can you reproduce bug 387548 ? [23:46] Launchpad bug 387548 in ubuntu "Could not display "computer:///"." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/387548 [23:47] hggdh: nm... i recall you aren't using ubuntu+1 [23:47] pace_t_zulu: no logs??? [23:47] pace_t_zulu: $ apport-collect 387548 -p nautilus [23:48] BUGabundo: will do [23:48] no package... that's a very poor bug! [23:48] pace_t_zulu, I am running Karmic [23:48] pace_t_zulu, I cannot reproduce it [23:49] hggdh, thank you... i hope i didn't file a bogus bug [23:50] humm no bug is bogus [23:51] could just be _your_ configuration [23:51] trigging something not obvious [23:51] seb128: still around ? [23:51] is this a nautilus bug? [23:51] what? [23:51] BUGabundo: did the apport-collect [23:52] seb128: pace_t_zulu bug https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/bugs/387548 [23:52] Launchpad bug 387548 in ubuntu "Could not display "computer:///"." [Undecided,New] [23:53] rather gvfs [23:53] try if gvfs-ls computer: is working [23:54] and run /usr/lib/gvfs/gvfsd -r on a command line [23:54] then try to open computer [23:54] and copy the log from the command line on the bug [23:57] seb128, did those steps and added comments to the bug report [23:58] running /usr/lib/gvfs/gvfsd-computer work? [23:58] from #ubuntu+1 Sarvatt: pace_t_zulu: ah you're missing /usr/lib/gvfs/gvfsd-computer --spawner :1.6 /org/gtk/gvfs/exec_spaw/3 in your ps aux for some reason [23:58] the gvfs processes are autospawned when required [23:59] it could be crashing for you for some reason [23:59] seb128: /usr/lib/gvfs/gvfsd-computer produces "Segmentation fault"