[00:16] <daxroc> pmatulis: should the kvm instances show 100% cpu usage under top ?
[00:20] <pmatulis> daxroc: no
[00:20] <daxroc> there frozen soo , probably not booting ?
[00:20] <daxroc> I can't shutthem down either
[00:21] <pmatulis> for access, you can use ssh (you installed it) or vnc
[00:24] <daxroc> pmatulis: no ssh cant ping them  ? vnc it's a cli server ?
[00:42] <jetole> hey guys. Does anyone know of a good system for keeping inventory of your computers. The count of servers I manage is starting to grow large in my firm and am now at the point where I am rolling off new via pxe boot and puppet config from vm hosts also and they require little config/attention to get running but now it's getting to the point where I can't even remember all systems we have
[00:43] <jetole> especially now with our full swing out into vm they are also starting to roll out quite quickly
[00:46] <jetole> I am thinking of something agent based that I can roll into the pxe install
[00:50] <daxroc> jetole: I think Canonical have a web management tool called landscape (commercial) ?
[00:50] <jetole> actually I think I have just answered my own question, looking at ocs
[00:51] <jetole> daxroc: I have servers that predate it (7.10)
[00:51] <jetole> plus I don't like anything commercial
[00:52] <jetole> ocs agent is a package option in 7.10 and looking at the ocs website, http://www.ocsinventory-ng.org/, it looks like something I would like
[00:58] <pmatulis> daxroc: when you start a vm with virsh you should be able to contact it via vnc.  see if it's listening on tcp port 5900.  if you have many vms running you may need to try higher ports (5901, etc)
[00:59] <pmatulis> the host that is (listening)
[00:59] <pmatulis> telnet localhost 5900
[00:59] <jetole> actually I believe you have to tell it to run a vnc either with virt-install or by editing the config file
[01:02] <jetole> daxroc and pmatulis, I use this command to check which vnc for which host:  ps -FC qemu-dm | grep qemu-dm | sed -e 's/.*-domain-name\ \([^ ]*\).*-vnc\ \([^ ]*\).*/\1 \2/'
[01:03] <jetole> this assumes qemu-dm is running the vm
[01:04] <jetole> for example the first line returned is sql3 127.0.0.1:8
[01:04] <jetole> which means I can connect to vnc on 127.0.0.1:5908
[01:05] <jetole> I like to keep vnc local btw, ssh port forward to connect, more secure, anyways, I am off
[01:12] <twb> Assuming your ssh is locked down to key-based or kerberos auth only ;-)
[01:12] <jetole> key based
[01:13] <jetole> although it's an ignorant assumption, a password can be stronger then a key
[01:13] <twb> I certainly wouldn't trust raw RFB (without ssh or openvpn encapsulation) over an untrusted network.
[01:13] <twb> jetole: assuming you mean the case where keys are passphraseless: granted.
[01:14] <jetole> twb, no I mean where a passphrase is stonger then a key
[01:14] <jetole> my god no! such a thing can't exist but yet it does
[01:14] <twb> Eh?  Passphrases are *for* keys; without keys you can only use passwords.
[01:15] <jetole> sshv2 supports password based authentication as well as keys and a handful of other auth methods, a password _can_ be harder to crack then a key
[01:16] <twb> In what circumstance?
[01:16] <twb> I agree with you, I'm just not sure you're thinking of the same vectors that I am.
[01:17] <jetole> a 1024 bit key has 1048576 possible combinations where a password of 32 characters with 62 possible choices per character has 2272657884496751345355241563627544170162852933518655225856 possible combinations
[01:17] <jetole> it's all about math
[01:17] <jetole> btw, 62 being [a-zA-Z0-9]
[01:18] <twb> I suggest you take that to #openssh.
[01:18] <jetole> now keep in mind I don't want to remember a password that can beat a 4096 bit key so I dont
[01:18] <jetole> twb: why, you are the one whom mentioned it and keep in mind 1024 is lower then the default for for RSA which is 2048 if I am not mistaken
[01:19] <jetole> but if you need to know how many possibilities there are for a key you use bitlength^2
[01:20] <jetole> actually
[01:20] <jetole> I got that wrong
[01:20] <jetole> 2^bitlength
[01:20] <jetole> which means a 1024 bit key has 179769313486231590772930519078902473361797697894230657273430081157732675805500963132708477322407536021120113879871393357658789768814416622492847430639474124377767893424865485276302219601246094119453 possible combinations
[01:20] <twb> I thought there might be a flaw like that in your math, but I'm far to asleep to find it :-)
[01:20] <jetole> which can still be beaten by a long enough and complex enough password
[01:21] <jetole> but if you use a 4096 bit key ( 104438888141315250669175271071662438257996424904738378038423348328395390797155745684882681193499755834089010671443926283798757343818579360726323608785136527794595697654370999834036159013438371831442 ) then creating a stonger password is possible but who the hell would type that in
[01:22] <jetole> I mean you would need a longgggg password to beat it and probably use far more then the 62 char set
[01:22] <twb> Of course, you can have a key with a weak passphrase, and get the key via social engineering, having root in the presence of agent forwarding, etc.  Then you can brute-force the weak passphrase.
[01:23] <jetole> absolutely
[01:23] <twb> That's what I was thinking of when you said that a key can be weaker.
[01:24] <jetole> right but I was not refering to a key password in this case but that password for a key is also a point of attack assuming you have a key but if but key authentication is still stong and my preferred choice
[01:25] <jetole> I mean for someone to use a password that is stronger then a key for password based authenticaion is... well rediculous
[01:25] <jetole> but possible
[01:25] <jetole> anyways, I gotta run again
[01:26] <jetole> heading into the office
[01:26] <jetole> ttyl
[02:12] <sarthor_> Hi, Any tested and resulted solution on linux to use double isp as uplink? shorewall not working because no support failover case, on debain/ubuntu based computer configuring with gwping script Messengers and vpn problem coz with changing gatway again and again DC problem, here http://lartc.org/howto/lartc.rpdb.multiple-links.html , also problem with messengers and vpns, any expert can guide me to the right way, because i wasted a lot of my days o
[02:12] <sarthor_> n this,
[02:13] <twb> Do you want to use the two ISPs in a sort of trunking arrangement, or just use one at a time and dynamically fail over to the "spare" connection?
[02:14] <sarthor_> twb, i want to use both isp at the same time, and if the one isp goes down or any dc problem so automatically to load come over the one isp.
[02:15] <twb> Obviously during failover, any stateful connections that *were* using the dead uplink will be borked.
[02:21] <diffra> wow.  vpslink's 9.04 image doesn't have adduser installed... O.o
[02:21] <diffra> there's minimal, and then there's stupid.
[02:24] <twb> diffra: unfortunately ubuntu-minimal isn't really suitable for VPS at the moment :-(
[02:32] <diffra> it was 25 or so packages short of ubuntu-minimal
[02:32] <twb> It does seem silly that the OpenVZ image has shit like apache in it by default, but not gnu screen...
[02:32] <sarthor_> twb, i want to use both isp at the same time, and if the one isp goes down or any dc problem so automatically to load come over the one isp.
[02:33] <sarthor_> Hi, Any tested and resulted solution on linux to use double isp as uplink? shorewall not working because no support failover case, on debain/ubuntu based computer configuring with gwping script Messengers and vpn problem coz with changing gatway again and again DC problem, here http://lartc.org/howto/lartc.rpdb.multiple-links.html , also problem with messengers and vpns, any expert can guide me to the right way, because i wasted a lot of my days o
[02:33] <sarthor_> n this,
[02:33] <twb> !repeat
[02:35] <sarthor_> ubottu, if you are not bot, so please check the time stamp, is that quickly??
[02:35] <twb> sarthor_: a fifteen-minute interval is quick.
[02:36] <twb> sarthor_: an hour interval wouldn't bother me.
[02:38] <sarthor_> Ohh. interval according to your bothering, :)) Next i will be careful. dont mind bro.
[02:38] <twb> sarthor_: no worries.
[03:37] <xinel> anyone know of a tutorial to set up apt-cacher-ng to cache 9.04 and 8.10?
[03:39] <twb> I'd hope the package includes copious documentation in /usr/share/doc/apt-cacher-ng/
[03:45] <xinel> u sir are a gentleman and a scholar
[03:45] <xinel> cheers
[03:53] <twb> Let me point out that apt-cacher (not -ng) and apt-proxy are REALLY AWFUL
[03:54] <twb> If you have the storage capacity, I would strongly recommend using debmirror or some other mirror-oriented system.
[03:54] <twb> (Which can do partial mirroring, if you want to ignore e.g. the games or powerpc section.)
[03:55] <xinel> the documentation doesn't tell me how :(
[04:24] <FFForever> why do i see this?, 127.0.0.1 - - [14/Jun/2009:20:24:46 -0700] "OPTIONS * HTTP/1.0" 200 - "-" "Apache/2.2.11 (Ubuntu) (internal dummy connection)"
[04:28] <twb> Dunno, try asking #apache
[04:29] <FFForever> billybigrigger, you around?
[04:29] <billybigrigger> yeah
[04:29] <FFForever> any idea why i am getting internal dummy connection's in my log?
[04:30] <billybigrigger> access.log?
[04:30] <billybigrigger> your apache log?
[04:30] <FFForever> yeah
[04:30] <billybigrigger> 127.0.0.1 - - [14/Jun/2009:14:43:22 -0600] "OPTIONS * HTTP/1.0" 200 - "-" "Apache/2.2.11 (Ubuntu) (internal dummy connection)"
[04:30] <billybigrigger> 127.0.0.1 - - [14/Jun/2009:14:43:22 -0600] "OPTIONS * HTTP/1.0" 200 - "-" "Apache/2.2.11 (Ubuntu) (internal dummy connection)"
[04:30] <billybigrigger> 127.0.0.1 - - [14/Jun/2009:14:43:22 -0600] "OPTIONS * HTTP/1.0" 200 - "-" "Apache/2.2.11 (Ubuntu) (internal dummy connection)"
[04:30] <billybigrigger> i get the same thing :P
[04:30] <FFForever> but why?
[04:30] <billybigrigger> don't know
[04:31] <billybigrigger> its coming from the localhost (127.0.0.1)
[04:31] <billybigrigger> might be why
[04:31] <FFForever> error404notfound, so find yourself :P
[04:31] <billybigrigger> and i think twb is on the right track by asking in #httpd actually (the apache chan)
[04:31] <twb> billybigrigger: they took #httpd?  What jackasses
[04:31] <FFForever> twb?
[04:31] <twb> It's not like Apache is the only httpd.
 Dunno, try asking #apache
[04:32] <billybigrigger> no, but #apache re-directs to #httpd
[04:32] <error404notfound> FFForever, :P
[04:32] <FFForever> billybigrigger, ohhh my wifi died for a moment and i didn't get it... damn wifi... lol
[04:32] <billybigrigger> ahhh
[04:33] <billybigrigger> jesus i need to lay off the caffiene and pantera
[04:35] <twb> I'm just grumpy at them for using "httpd" instead of "apache", because it's like they're saying "we are THE ONLY httpd"
[04:35] <twb> RHEL does it for apache, too.
[04:35] <billybigrigger> true that
[04:35] <twb> I mean, even busybox, which is included in your kernel's ramdisks, has an httpd.
[05:47] <tsrk> twb, they're referring to the httpd part of apache. "apache" isn't an httpd, they make other things too
[05:48] <tsrk> it's like when the gnome documentation says "network manager" they mean the gnome network manager, not kde or windows
[05:48] <twb> Hmph.
[05:48] <twb> That would be "the apache foundation" or something, not "apache"
[05:48] <tsrk> their java stuff isn't "the apache foundation tomcat", it's "apache tomcat"
[05:49] <twb> Wikipedia lists apache-the-webserver before apache-the-foundation
[05:49] <twb> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apache_(disambiguation)
[05:49] <tsrk> i didn't realize you were talking about a channel name though
[05:49] <twb> That's good enough for me.
[05:49] <twb> Not that I or (presumably) you are gonna do anything about it.
[05:50] <tsrk> well, i guess if they get #httpd first nobody but them can do anything about it
[05:50] <twb> Theoretically I could hit them with freenode policy
[05:50] <tsrk> but you gotta give them credit... they do have the majority market share (or w/e it's called)
[05:50] <tsrk> there's a policy against that?
[05:51] <twb> Unofficial channels are supposed to start with two octothorpes.
[05:51] <tsrk> and i doubt freenode would want to become unfriendly with them
[05:51] <twb> I could content that there is no official (single) httpd, and thus #httpd is not usable by anyone.
[05:51] <tsrk> ehh
[05:51] <tsrk> yeah
[06:31] <rags> I've got a modem tht does not NAT for systems on other n/w. A ubuntu router is connected directly to the modem, net works on this. but systems on LAN can't access net. can this be a modem problem?
[06:32] <rags> I can ping the modem from the systems on Lan. so routing is not a prob.
[06:44] <twb> rags: draw a network diagram, then get back to me
[06:48] <rags> twb: yeah..sure..just a moment...
[06:50] <rags> twb: <modem>1.1<ubuntu>1.254
[06:50] <rags>   |
[06:50] <rags>   <Lan>2.254
[06:50] <rags>   |
[06:50] <rags>   <pc>2.100
[06:50] <rags> someting like this...is it ok?...
[06:51] <twb> That's not really clear.
[06:51] <rags> I can access net from ubuntu...which is on the .1 n/w..but pc on .2 can't access net..:(
[06:51] <twb> Is 1.1 part of an IPv4 address?
[06:51] <rags> yes..192.168.1.1
[06:52] <twb> So "modem" is both a modem and a router?
[06:52] <rags> .1 and .2 subnets... .1 b/w modem and ubuntu and .2 is the Lan where ubuntu is the gateway.
[06:53] <rags> twb: yeah..I guess...it's an adsl modem
[06:53] <twb> So you have multiple RJ45 ports on the back of your modem/router?
[06:54] <rags> twb: only one is there...which is connected to ubuntu...this is the local interface.
[06:55] <rags> I have another modem, a different model, doing the same thing and works fine. Can this be due to the type of natting, dynamic & static...:?
[06:55] <rags> because on the one tht work's I can do port forwarding and stuff while this one just provides for a dmz...This is the only s/w config difference I can find....everything else is the same.
[06:56] <rags> besides the model...
[06:57] <twb> I'm sorry, I don't have time to understand exactly what you're doing and why it isn't working.
[07:00] <rags> twb: np.....thx...It might be the faulty...but this isn't normal right?...it shouldn't matter where the packets are coming from....the modem is not natting packets coming from a different subnet...it works only for system connected to it physically.
[07:01] <twb> rags: my first suspicion is with the modem.
[07:02] <rags> twb : yeah...the other modem works fine..sheez I'll nedd to find one of the same model....or bridge it to ubuntu...Is it possible to have ubuntu Nat for one interface only?...
[07:15] <twb> That depends a lot on what you mean by "NAT".
[07:15] <twb> But generally: yes, it can.
[07:42] <rags> wht will be the configuration for a one time amanda backup? I just want to insert the tape, specify a bunch of files and run amdump.
[09:16] <Ethos> guys will- dd if=/dev/sda1 of=/mnt/external/diskImage/lol.img bs=1024dd if=/dev/sda1 of=/mnt/external/diskImage/lol.img bs=1024 write the WHOLE partition? Or just the data in the partition to a .img file?
[09:31] <simplexio> Ethos: whole partition
[09:31] <Ethos> damn
[09:31] <Ethos> i'm writing it on the same drive
[09:31] <Ethos> wonder if it'll just squeeze it in
[09:31] <Ethos> lol.
[09:33] <simplexio> it copys everything thats on /dev/sda1 partition, zeros included
[09:33] <Ethos> damn
[09:33] <Ethos> Thanks
[09:33] <Ethos> Is there any way to either shrink sda1 or get it to simply write data blocks?
[09:34] <_ruben> use tar to create tarball of the data
[09:34] <Ethos> Well, the reason I'm doing it is to then use qemu to convert it to a VMDK
[09:34] <Ethos> So i'm not sure that'd work
[09:35] <Ethos> any other ideas? :)
[09:35] <_ruben> tar .. create empty vmdk .. untar into vmdk .. fix bootloader .. profit
[09:49] <Ethos> _ruben: how could I untar into vmdk
[09:49] <Ethos> I was planning to use qemu to convert
[09:54] <Ethos> Maybe I could re-size the partition?
[11:04] <Jomyoot> Anyone uses Apt-build?
[11:15] <soren> Jomyoot: No. I wouldn't bother if I were you.
[13:13] <maxagaz> hi
[13:13] <maxagaz> what should do to regarly test my bandwith ?
[13:13] <maxagaz> is there a tool to do that ?
[13:29] <Jeeves_> iperf
[13:56] <Jomyoot> W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net intrepid Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY E048451D9EE6D873
[13:56] <Jomyoot> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[13:56] <Jomyoot> What does this mean?
[14:14] <ivoks> soren: should specs be in 'review' or 'pending approval' state, once i finished them?
[14:20] <ttx> ivoks: I'd say review is for peer-reviewing, so if they are "finished" i'd set them to pending approval
[14:21] <ivoks> ok, thanks
[14:21] <ivoks> brb
[14:22] <Ethos> Guys, what's the easier way to p2v a ubuntu machine?
[14:43] <KAIN> hello every body
[14:44] <KAIN> i need some help please ,i'm running squid2.7Stable3 on ubuntu server 9.04 with cisco vxr7200, i need to setup wccp v2 between squid box and the router
[14:47] <KAIN> i need some help please ,i'm running squid2.7Stable3 on ubuntu server 9.04 with cisco vxr7200, i need to setup wccp v2 between squid box and the router
[14:48] <KAIN> anyone can hel please
[14:48] <KAIN> help*
[14:51] <KAIN> dear ones, anyone could provide some help and support please
[14:51] <oruwork> how do i take away the ability to use shell from a user so that this user will only be able to use ftp with vsftpd
[14:52] <KAIN> i need some help please ,i'm running squid2.7Stable3 on ubuntu server 9.04 with cisco vxr7200, i need to setup wccp v2 between squid box and the router
[14:54] <soren> KAIN: Quit posting the same question over and over, especially with only minutes in between them.
[15:05] <Sam-I-Am> KAIN: thats more of a question for squid/cisco documentation than ubuntu itself
[15:41] <daxroc> pmatulis: I got the problem sorted after , was an issue with how -raw writes to an lv partition
[15:41] <daxroc> pmatulis: thanks for the input , much appreciated
[15:42] <pmatulis> daxroc: i'm intersted in learning from this episode, can you provide any more detail?  private me or send me an email (pmatulis@gmail.com)
[18:05] <tv7497> hey does anyone here runs a mail server ?
[18:06] <tv7497> guys i was setting up a mail server from this http://flurdy.com/docs/postfix/  got stuck little bit could you help me ?
[18:10] <lamont> heh.  that's not postfix, that's a wheelbarrow full
[18:26] <billybigrigger> ahh he's gone
[18:28] <billybigrigger> lol that is quite the large guide he's reading
[18:38] <Ethos> Has anyone successfully converted an ubuntu server to a virtual enviroment?
[18:38] <Ethos> I've been playing with different ideas but nothing work
[18:38] <Ethos> ;\/
[18:40] <billybigrigger> what do you mean
[18:40] <Ethos> p2v
[18:40] <billybigrigger> i scrapped my old energy hog of a server sitting in the corner yesterday
[18:41] <billybigrigger> and installed vbox, 9.04 server, and had apache/mysql/php/dovecot/postfix running on it within a few hours
[18:41] <billybigrigger> if thats what you mean,
[18:41] <billybigrigger> but i didnt convert it, just started a fresh new install of everything
[18:42] <Ethos> Yeah, I want to convert
[18:42] <billybigrigger> i don't know then
[18:43] <billybigrigger> if you could somehow make a bootable install, or bootable disk, you can mount the .iso in vbox and install...
[18:46] <Sam-I-Am> Ethos: you could install base ubuntu in a VM and tarball your other server's filesystem over to it
[18:46] <simplexio> Ethos: Sam-I-Am is probably easiest method
[18:47] <Ethos> hmmm
[18:47] <Ethos> would that work ok?
[18:48] <diffra> it should detect the new 'hardware' fine.
[18:48] <diffra> besides, it's a VM, the worst that happens is it doesn't work :)
[18:48] <Ethos> Ok, so install a base server in vmware
[18:48] <Ethos> Yeah
[18:48] <Ethos> how would I tarball up the entire partition though?
[18:49] <Sam-I-Am> tar -cf /some/other/location/fs.tar /
[18:50] <Sam-I-Am> although i'd be careful to make sure you dont overwrite anything you might need on the new system
[18:50] <Ethos> hmm
[18:50] <Ethos> ok
[18:50] <billybigrigger> hey
[18:50] <billybigrigger> if your doing that...you have to create the tarball to a location not on the / partition
[18:50] <billybigrigger> or the size will just grow and grow
[18:50] <Sam-I-Am> yeah, hence the /some/other/location
[18:50] <hosified> hey, i'm using ubuntu server inside virtualbox.  anyway to change the resolution?
[18:51] <Sam-I-Am> hosified: did you install the tools?
[18:51] <Sam-I-Am> client tools...
[18:51] <hosified> DoH....
[18:51] <Sam-I-Am> if so, you should just be able to drag the window bigger
[18:51] <hosified> forgot that during the build late last night...
[18:51] <billybigrigger> Sam-I-Am::: im just making sure he know why it needs to be created somewhere off of the / partition
[18:51] <hosified> thanks, will install them now.
[18:51] <Sam-I-Am> yeh
[18:51] <billybigrigger> Ethos::: you dig?
[18:52] <Ethos> I  think so mate :)
[18:52] <Ethos> thanks
[18:52] <Sam-I-Am> sure
[18:53] <billybigrigger> Ethos::: well you understand if you create the tarball on the /, and then try to tar /, that it becomes and infinite loop that just grows till you run out of disk space?
[18:54] <Ethos> heh yea, I understand  that part of it
[18:59] <diffra> you could use --exclude...
[18:59] <diffra> touch /fs_backup.tar; tar -cf /fs_backup.tar /* --exclude=/fs_backup.tar
[19:00] <Sam-I-Am> make sure the target filesystem is not in use when you untar to it :)
[19:01] <diffra> good point.  What you might do, Ethos, is create a second virtual disk.  boot into the first one, mount the second one and untar to that mount point.  You'll still need to setup grub on that 'disk's' mbr too.
[19:04] <Ethos> ;o
[19:05] <diffra> ethos: none of that is as hard as it sounds.
[19:06] <simplexio> Ethos: and you can use liecd image to boot that virtaul machine
[19:06] <Ethos> i'm rereading it :)
[19:06] <Ethos> brb
[19:07] <simplexio> easiest way probably is create virtual hd (20G or sumthing ) then boot livecd and mount that image, let livecd setup somekind network and netcat / to virtual box and then ...
[19:08] <simplexio> im not 100% sure but probably you need to chroot to new install and install grub..
[19:08] <simplexio> thats probably fastest way, exspecially if you rememebr change vboc netdriver to 1G ethernet. no slow tar +pack, unpack+untar proces
[19:11] <daxroc> Ethos if you want to create a raw image of a physical partition you could use dd
[19:12] <Ethos> I have already done that
[19:12] <Ethos> :D
[19:12] <Ethos> If that helps?
[19:12] <daxroc> Ethos: can yo explain what you want to do again ?
[19:13] <daxroc> you want to create a vm and do a base ubuntu install on and copy your exsisting files over to the vm image ?
[19:15] <daxroc> First off does your processor support virtualisation
[19:18] <daxroc> Ethos: ^
[19:21] <Ethos> Sorry, im doing a couple bits- don't mean to keep you waiting
[19:21] <Ethos> I've got an exisiting ubutnu server- that'd i'd like a virtual copy of
[19:21] <Ethos> for DR and maybe to keep it running in VM
[19:21] <Ethos> :)
[19:22] <daxroc> Ethos: how large is the current drive , how much spare hd space do you have ?
[19:24] <hosified> ok, so my question still stands.  Is there anyway to change the resolution on ubuntu server as a virtualbox guest.  I have no gui installed, only console.  Framebuffer maybe???
[19:25] <hosified> guest additions are installed.
[19:25] <daxroc> Ethos: dd if=/dev/sdX of=/path/to/image.raw , then you could use qemu-img to convert that image to qcow2 and boot with qemu ( might work , might not , where X is your drive ,could be hdX )
[19:26] <daxroc> Ethos: sorry , dd if=/dev/sdX of=/path/to/image.raw bs=1M
[19:26] <daxroc> if you are using lvm I think you could possibly write directly to an lv partition not too sure tho
[19:27] <hosified> ...I guess it doesn't matter...I can just ssh in anyways....just curious if you can change it because the window is so small and the text size is huge compared to my ubuntu desktop.
[19:28] <Sam-I-Am> hosified: since you cant resize a non-virtual console, you cant do it in vbox either... unless you do the things you would do to a console like tweak the font and number of lines/columns
[19:28] <Sam-I-Am> hosified: the console is not an xterm
[19:29] <hosified> yeah, I know.  I know in slackware you can specify the framebuffer size and change it....
[19:29] <Sam-I-Am> its a kernel thing
[19:29] <hosified> which is why I was asking if it's possible in ubuntu.  I know there is no x-term....
[19:29] <hosified> ok
[19:29] <hosified> thanks for the info.
[19:29] <hosified> much appreciated.
[19:29] <Sam-I-Am> yeah, console framebuffers are distro-independent
[19:29] <Sam-I-Am> no problem
[19:29] <Sam-I-Am> took a minute to figure out you werent in X :)
[19:29] <hosified> ;)
[19:30] <hosified> only a server vm for development anyways, not a big deal, ssh is great...
[19:30] <hosified> just more curious than anything...
[19:30] <Sam-I-Am> sure
[19:30] <Sam-I-Am> i dont think vbox will interact with the kernel framebuffer console driver like it does the vbox X driver...
[19:31] <Sam-I-Am> so you cant just click and drag
[19:31] <Sam-I-Am> however, i dont think the kernel framebuffer driver works like that in the first place
[19:31] <Sam-I-Am> its open source, you're welcome to fix :)
[19:31] <hosified> no it doesn't...
[19:31] <hosified> yeah, i'll add that to my list...:)
[19:34] <hosified> I think i'll start with hello.c source first and work my way up....
[19:34] <Sam-I-Am> lol
[19:53] <hagedorn> anyone know a script which check blacklist servers against a list of ips an domain names ? not for blacklisting for my own server ... only for checking that my own server are not listed..
[20:46] <simplexio> hosified: for server development, thee is one good tip. ssh into vm and use screen. and when you need to shutdown host just freeze vm.. scren keeps eceything just like it was last time
[20:58] <JordiGH> I have a cronjob that is apparently not running. It seems that unlike Debian, I don't have cron emailing me when something goes wrong. How can I check why my cronjob isn't running?
[21:03] <ivoks> cynic and false comments won't help
[21:03] <ivoks> ubuntu, as debian, sends email when cron fails
[21:03] <JordiGH> ivoks: Good, how do I read it?
[21:03] <JordiGH> ivoks: "mail" isn't installed.
[21:03] <ivoks> depends on your email service setup
[21:03] <JordiGH> ivoks: /var/mail is empty
[21:04] <ivoks> do you have smtp?
[21:04] <JordiGH> What, the protocol?
[21:06] <ivoks> daemon or a program for writing to /var/mail
[21:06] <JordiGH> Ah, so an MTA is not part of the Ubuntu base install.
[21:06] <JordiGH> (Unlike Debian)
[21:07] <ivoks> it looks like debian would be a better choice for you
[21:08] <JordiGH> If only it were my choice...
[21:08] <ivoks> bad luck
[21:10] <JordiGH> Alright, so what does Ubuntu call the bsd-mailx package?
[21:10] <JordiGH> Just mailx...
[21:11] <ivoks> bsd-mailx
[21:12] <JordiGH> ivoks: Not in HH, apparently. Just mailx.
[21:12] <ivoks> right, that's old mailx
[21:13] <ivoks> 'old' package name
[21:13] <ivoks> same program
[21:15] <JordiGH> Hrm.
[21:16] <JordiGH> Still no mail... and my cronjob is certainly not doing what it's supposed to do.
[21:16] <JordiGH> Wait...
[21:23] <JordiGH> Does Ubuntu cron do sh or bash by default?
[21:26] <Ethos> daxroc: I tried use qemu but it quit after writing a copy meg
[21:26] <Ethos> couple*
[21:27] <JordiGH> Hm, manpage says sh.
[21:27] <daxroc> What size is the raw image ?
[21:27] <daxroc> Ethos: ^
[21:28] <Ethos> 16gig
[21:28] <Ethos> I've tried convering it in windows and linux
[21:28] <daxroc> Ethos: what command were you using ?
[21:28] <Ethos> erm
[21:28] <Ethos> let me see
[21:30] <Ethos> [20:26] < Ethos> couple*
[21:30] <Ethos> ffs
[21:30] <Ethos> [#ubuntu-server]:
[21:30] <Ethos> Sorry, my irssi client is being silly
[21:30] <Ethos> qemu-img convert -f raw /www/var/html/image.img -O vmdk /www/var/html/image.vmdk
[21:30] <gaddzilla> does gparted support partitions larger than 2 TB when formatting with ext4?
[21:30] <Ethos> I used a "work around" version
[21:31] <Ethos> which seemed to create an identical file called -O
[21:31] <Ethos> But didn't work
[21:32] <daxroc> Ethos: convert it to a qcow2 image for use with qemu ?
[21:34] <Ethos> How do I do that? :D
[21:35] <daxroc> Ethos: try qemu convert /path/original.img -O qcow2 new.qcow2
[21:35] <Ethos> ok
[21:35] <Ethos> :\
[21:35] <Ethos> Might have to wait till tomorrow actually
[21:35] <Ethos> will you be around?
[21:35] <daxroc> Ethos: will be in the evening
[21:36] <Ethos> cool
[21:36] <Ethos> I'll get the server up and running tomorrow and we can give it a go :)
[21:36] <Ethos> Thanks for your help
[21:36] <gaddzilla> theoretically ext4 should be OK with a partition larger than 2TB with gparted, but when I create a 2TB partition e2fsck runs happily all day long. but when I resized the 2TB to 4TB with gparted and ran e2fsck afterward, I started getting an error in e2fck about a bad superblock. the size shows up correctly with df -h but not with gparted :(
[23:26] <johnny5> Guys, trying to setup a local server. Hwo do I go about doing the fqdn if i want name.local as the hostname?
[23:27] <johnny5> i'm guessing i need to set some stuff in my hosts file as well as in apache?
[23:30] <johnny5> fusetech