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| vorian | yizidy yizo | 01:49 |
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| JontheEchidna | hizidy hizey | 01:49 |
| ScottK | The problem was something like a mysql-common (or similar) package that was provided by both 5.0 and 5.1 and no one noticed until after the upload. | 04:09 |
| ScottK | mysql packages (unlike postgres) are not generally designed to be co-installed. | 04:10 |
| * ScottK also (now) notices that was about 6 hours ago .... | 04:10 | |
| vorian | hehe | 04:10 |
| vorian | still valid however | 04:11 |
| ScottK | Fits with my observation about with is generally better engineered. | 04:11 |
| * vorian thinks a Kubuntu dude should go after the QA team manager job | 04:12 | |
| * ScottK wonders if nixternal can pretend to know about QA as well as he pretends to work on Kubutu? | 04:13 | |
| vorian | there you go | 04:13 |
| * ScottK notes vorian was grumbling about his current employment recently. | 04:15 | |
| nhandler | Are we holding the Kubuntu meeting in here? | 04:24 |
| nixternal | ScottK: luckily I don't know the ins and outs of QA work :) | 04:33 |
| ScottK | You're probably highly qualified then. | 04:33 |
| nixternal | they are looking for a heavy QA hitter | 04:33 |
| nixternal | plus, all the tools they use we can't even use until AT-SPI is fully incorporated, which will hopefully be some time this year | 04:34 |
| nixternal | or next year :p | 04:34 |
| nixternal | nhandler: it will be in #ubuntu-meeting tomorrow night | 04:34 |
| nhandler | nixternal: Then we have a conflict | 04:35 |
| nhandler | There is already another meeting in there scheduled for the same time | 04:35 |
| nixternal | then we will hold it here. fixed :) | 04:38 |
| nhandler | :) | 04:38 |
| === nhandler changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Meeting Tuesday 16th at 23:00UTC in #kubuntu-devel | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Todo | Alpha 2 is OUT! | ||
| xnox | Is this the best place to report bug in kubuntu-backports packages? It's packaging related. | 06:50 |
| sebas | shtylman_: you got the ooo kde4 integration stuff done? congrats ... | 09:01 |
| estan | hey folks, i'm a little confused by the CheckPolicy function in /usr/share/acpi-support, it seems it's not designed to work with KDE4. | 09:42 |
| estan | it is called from e.g. /etc/acpi/lid.sh to check if there's some daemon (gnome or kde) that controls power policy. | 09:42 |
| estan | but it seems the script only uses dcop. | 09:42 |
| estan | i'm running a trunk install of KDE on my kubuntu system, and i discovered this is the reason why i couldn't turn off screen blanking on lid close in powerdevil, since the lid.sh ACPI event script did not detect me having any policy daemon running. | 09:44 |
| estan | i guess this script should be extended to check for e.g. powerdevil using dbus or something when on kde4, or? | 09:44 |
| estan | (what happens if the lid.sh script does not detect a policy daemon of any kind is that it goes along and turns off the screen by default). | 09:45 |
| estan | or maybe not possible to use dbus from those scripts? | 10:05 |
| tsimpson | estan: can you file a bug against acpi-support for that please | 10:07 |
| estan | tsimpson: yea, i will. | 10:09 |
| tsimpson | "(test -x /usr/bin/dbus-send && dbus-send --print-reply --dest=org.kde.kded /kded org.kde.kded.loadedModules | grep -q powerdevil)" should work from there | 10:10 |
| tsimpson | it should probably check for guidance-power-manager too | 10:13 |
| estan | hm, but i just tried adding plain: || dbus-send --print-reply --dest='org.kde.kded' /kded org.kde.kded.loadedModules | grep -q powerdevil | 10:14 |
| estan | and it seems it didn't work.. | 10:15 |
| estan | the parentheses are required? | 10:15 |
| estan | i'll try your exact suggestion too. | 10:15 |
| estan | maybe i can make a patch for the bug report. | 10:15 |
| tsimpson | what do you mean "didn't work"? | 10:15 |
| tsimpson | it's not supposed to print anything, just exit successfully | 10:16 |
| tsimpson | (the -q makes grep silent) | 10:16 |
| tsimpson | ie: "dbus-send --print-reply --dest='org.kde.kded' /kded org.kde.kded.loadedModules | grep -q powerdevil ; echo $?" prints '0' | 10:17 |
| estan | yea i know, sorry, i meant that i got the same problem as before, CheckPolicy returned 1 in /etc/lid.sh and my screen was blanked.. so i guess something didn't work. | 10:17 |
| estan | yea, it does. | 10:17 |
| tsimpson | hmm, maybe the script is called from a different user... | 10:18 |
| estan | it's just that it does not seem to do so when invoked in the policy-funcs | 10:18 |
| estan | yea that's what i'm thinking, that it can't find the dbus bus. | 10:18 |
| estan | maybe it needs some more magic to find it. | 10:18 |
| estan | i couldn't find any dbus stuff used in any of the other acpi event scripts. | 10:19 |
| estan | tsimpson: i mean, the script is system-wide.. | 10:19 |
| estan | or? | 10:19 |
| estan | acpid is running as root.. | 10:20 |
| estan | i'll just file the bug. | 10:24 |
| Tonio_ | hi | 10:30 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: as you proposed your help for this... https://edge.launchpad.net/~packagekit/+archive/0.4.x | 10:30 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I couldn't fix the build issue for that kpackagekit... | 10:30 |
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| Quintasan | hiho | 10:32 |
| estan | okay, i filed a bug; https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/acpi-support/+bug/387750 | 10:36 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 387750 in acpi-support "CheckPolicy() in policy-funcs script does not detect PowerDevil" [Undecided,New] | 10:36 |
| estan | there were some similar bugs, but i'm pretty sure no dupes. | 10:37 |
| tsimpson | Tonio_: try quoting _target: set(_target "${CMAKE_CURRENT_BINARY_DIR}/${_output_file}") | 10:39 |
| tsimpson | (WFM) | 10:39 |
| Tonio_ | tsimpson: testing... | 10:42 |
| * tsimpson clears out the spam to his @ubuntu.com address | 10:47 | |
| Tonio_ | tsimpson: no luck... | 10:48 |
| Tonio_ | CMake Error at cmake/modules/PkgConfigGetVar.cmake:28 (configure_file): | 10:48 |
| Tonio_ | configure_file called with incorrect number of arguments, expected 2 | 10:48 |
| tsimpson | works here with cmake 2.6.2 | 10:51 |
| Tonio_ | tsimpson: hum.... | 10:51 |
| Tonio_ | tsimpson: with or without commenting the line ? | 10:52 |
| Tonio_ | tsimpson: I use karmic and so cmake 2.6.4... | 10:52 |
| tsimpson | I dget'd the source and quoted the set(_target bit | 10:53 |
| tsimpson | (and changed CMakeLists.txt to look for packagekit-qt>=0.3.14) | 10:54 |
| Tonio_ | tsimpson: hum, nope I can't get that to work... quoting won't change anything.... weird... | 10:58 |
| Tonio_ | tsimpson: it looks like PKGCONFIG_GETVAR outputs an empty _install_dir | 11:00 |
| Tonio_ | no idea why | 11:00 |
| glatzor | hello Tonio_, Riddell ! | 11:03 |
| Riddell | hi glatzor | 11:03 |
| tsimpson | Tonio_: I think it gets that from "pkg-config dbus-1 --variable=session_bus_services_dir" | 11:03 |
| tsimpson | prints out "/usr/share/dbus-1/services" for me | 11:03 |
| glatzor | I would like to make the transition to packagekit 0.4.x in the next days | 11:04 |
| glatzor | or today :) | 11:04 |
| glatzor | Tonio_, Riddell I rename the packagekit-0.4.x branch to packagekit-karmic | 11:04 |
| Tonio_ | glatzor: yup, thanks :) | 11:06 |
| glatzor | Tonio_, Riddell unfortunately it will break kpackagekit | 11:07 |
| Tonio_ | tsimpson: this outputs empty stuff for me | 11:07 |
| Tonio_ | glatzor: no problem | 11:07 |
| glatzor | So perhaps we should add a breaks | 11:08 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: -- package 'packagekit-qt>=0.4.7' not found <-- where can I find that? | 11:08 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: on the ppa | 11:08 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: you have to build according to the ppa | 11:08 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: there's no libpackagekit-qt in https://edge.launchpad.net/~packagekit/+archive/0.4.x | 11:08 |
| tsimpson | Tonio_: it should be set in /usr/lib/pkgconfig/dbus-1.pc, so if not, then it's an issue with the libdbus-1-dev package | 11:08 |
| Riddell | oh, it's part of packagekit itself now | 11:09 |
| Riddell | clever | 11:09 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: yes it is | 11:10 |
| glatzor | Riddell, this was already the case for packagekit 0.3.x :) | 11:10 |
| Tonio_ | tsimpson: interesting... | 11:10 |
| Tonio_ | tsimpson: damned me.... I didn't install this package.... | 11:10 |
| Tonio_ | tsimpson: also, cmake could have been a little more talkative about the issue... | 11:11 |
| tsimpson | heh | 11:11 |
| tsimpson | I guess it's because it's not looking for the package | 11:12 |
| Tonio_ | tsimpson: yup | 11:12 |
| Riddell | tsimpson beat me to it | 11:13 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I think I can finish the package now... testing and ppa uploading | 11:14 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: uploaded, we'll be able to test in an hour maybe... | 11:19 |
| Tonio_ | glatzor: hopefully that won't break kpackagekit | 11:19 |
| * Tonio_ is doing the digikam package... | 11:32 | |
| Riddell | Tonio_: http://unite.opera.com/ well it's not free software, although I can't work out what it is | 11:32 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: yup, sadly ;) | 11:34 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: it's a P2P web browsing thing, looks like, cloud computing stuff and so on... | 11:34 |
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| Tonio_ | Riddell, glatzor: packagekit and kpackagekit seem to work decently from the ppa :) | 11:41 |
| glatzor | Tonio_, oh, I just mixed up the branches | 11:42 |
| Tonio_ | glatzor: oki | 11:47 |
| glatzor | Tonio_, I have to manually merge some more changes from my local branch | 11:48 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: working here too | 11:48 |
| glatzor | Tonio_, could you please only set the distro in the changelog from UNRELASED to karmic if the package was uploaded | 12:03 |
| glatzor | Tonio_, only. | 12:03 |
| glatzor | Tonio_, this helps me to keep track of upload more easily. | 12:03 |
| Tonio_ | glatzor: hum right | 12:10 |
| Tonio_ | glatzor: I'll let you do the job for packagekit and packagekit-gnome and I'm handeling kpackagekit, is that okay for you ? | 12:12 |
| Tonio_ | glatzor: want me to create the packagekit-gnome-jarmic branch ? | 12:17 |
| Tonio_ | glatzor: also I noticed something strange with your packagekit-gnome upload... | 12:18 |
| Tonio_ | glatzor: the stable 2.27.2 release seems more recent than your 2.27.2+20090423-0ubuntu1~ppa1 upload, just fyi... | 12:19 |
| glatzor | Tonio_, I already have got the branch on my system, so I only need to push it :) | 12:19 |
| Tonio_ | glatzor: oki | 12:19 |
| Tonio_ | glatzor: afaik 2.27.2 was released on june 1st | 12:19 |
| glatzor | Tonio_, I think there was a typo in the version number | 12:19 |
| Tonio_ | oki, so maybe you can just get my changes on the ppa then | 12:20 |
| Tonio_ | kpackagekit uploaded | 12:20 |
| Tonio_ | to the branch (not the repos) | 12:20 |
| Tonio_ | glatzor: considering the issue with sun-java6-plugin, I had a question, although that might sound crappy... | 12:25 |
| Tonio_ | glatzor: I know packagekit as support for some licence stuff right ? isn't there a way to just for this package invoke this licencing stuff and then push the acceptation as a debconf command so that it won't crash while installing java ? | 12:26 |
| glatzor | Tonio_, we can only implement this mechanism as a kind of hack | 12:28 |
| Tonio_ | glatzor: yep I agree with this... | 12:29 |
| Tonio_ | glatzor: but an crap patch that can be removed is better than an app segfault | 12:29 |
| glatzor | Tonio_, we would have to maintain a list of corresponding license questions | 12:30 |
| glatzor | Tonio_, if one of the corresponding packages gets installed we would have to extract the license, cancel the installation and emit the EULA signal to packagekit daemon | 12:31 |
| * Riddell would rather just blacklist sun-jaa | 12:32 | |
| Tonio_ | glatzor: hum and what if we use DEBIAN_FRONTEND=qt, the way adept did ? | 12:32 |
| glatzor | Tonio_, this is not possible, we would have to send the xauth cookie and display to the daemon | 12:33 |
| glatzor | Tonio_, the whole architecture of packagekit does not allow any interactiveness during installation | 12:33 |
| Tonio_ | glatzor: hum true, kpackagekit works as the user... | 12:33 |
| Tonio_ | we just have to wait for a trully opensource java then ;) | 12:34 |
| glatzor | adding a blacklist would be easy | 12:34 |
| Tonio_ | maybe as Riddell said, we should just blacklist licenced packages in the search engine | 12:34 |
| Tonio_ | I also have to patch kpackagekit to accept package installation within the command line... | 12:34 |
| glatzor | Tonio_, I would like to blacklist them only during installation | 12:34 |
| glatzor | Tonio_, I am now done with packagekit 0.4.8-0ubuntu1 | 12:36 |
| glatzor | Tonio_, feel free to upload it | 12:36 |
| Tonio_ | thanks, I have to go but I'll do toonight if you don't in between | 12:39 |
| Tonio_ | glatzor: I still have to work out kpackagekit patches a little bit | 12:40 |
| glatzor | Tonio_, no problem. | 12:40 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: they added it ;) | 12:40 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: kpackagekit --install-package-name "packagename" | 12:41 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: pretty good news | 12:41 |
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| Tonio_ | Riddell: I'm patching update-notifier-kde to use kpackagekit instead of install-package | 12:43 |
| Riddell | awooga | 12:44 |
| Riddell | bonus points if you do the other packages in `apt-cache rdepends install-package` | 12:44 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: we just need to check if that supports multiple packages installation | 12:44 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: sure will do | 12:44 |
| Riddell | mm | 12:44 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: hum single package support atm :/ | 12:45 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I'll have to patch for multiple packages | 12:45 |
| nhandler | Riddell: Just to be sure, you saw the channel topic, right? | 12:58 |
| Riddell | nhandler: #u-m is full? | 13:02 |
| nhandler | Riddell: Yeah, there is another meeting scheduled in there at the same time | 13:03 |
| * nhandler will be trying to attend 2 meetings at once tonight ;) | 13:03 | |
| Riddell | http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar so that's where it moved to | 13:04 |
| Riddell | not terribly pretty that | 13:04 |
| nhandler | Riddell: There are 3 things I like about the switch. 1) I can subscribe to the calendar in gcal (where I also get daily reminders via email). 2) Anyone can add events. 3) Recurring events are easy to create | 13:05 |
| nhandler | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fridge/Calendar explains how to add an event | 13:05 |
| vorian | nhandler: didn | 13:13 |
| vorian | whoops | 13:13 |
| vorian | didn't yall have a meeting last night? | 13:13 |
| nhandler | vorian: Tonight | 13:14 |
| vorian | what was that meeting last night then? | 13:14 |
| vorian | ubuntu-learning or something it seems | 13:15 |
| Riddell | Mamarok: I'm looking at the pykde problem with the printer config tool, could you try sudo cp /usr/share/kde4/apps/pykde4/kde4.py /usr/share/python-qt4/widget-plugins | 13:16 |
| JontheEchidna | Riddell: That fixed my spck problems | 13:23 |
| JontheEchidna | before it was complaining about kpushbutton | 13:23 |
| jussi01 | Riddell: hi, got a moment for a pm? | 13:25 |
| Riddell | JontheEchidna: in karmic? | 13:26 |
| Riddell | jussi01: can do | 13:26 |
| JontheEchidna | Riddell: yus | 13:26 |
| nixternal | Riddell: whose idea was it for a QA/Feedback plasmoid? | 13:41 |
| nixternal | I have decided to take the QA tasks in hoping to have them completed today (crappy weather) | 13:41 |
| Riddell | nixternal: my idea mostly | 13:42 |
| nixternal | what would you like see? | 13:42 |
| nixternal | just a simple questionairre type deal? | 13:42 |
| nixternal | rate 1...2...3...4...5 | 13:43 |
| nixternal | little text box for comments | 13:43 |
| nixternal | that's the easy part :) | 13:43 |
| Riddell | nixternal: well currently we have the Beta/Kubuntu/Feedback pages so I was thinking it would be an easier way to give that sort of general opinion feedback | 13:43 |
| nixternal | how does it get submitted? | 13:43 |
| Riddell | so maybe questions like "what broke" "what do you like" "do translations work" "other comments" | 13:43 |
| Riddell | nixternal: probably just calls a web page which has a database | 13:44 |
| nixternal | I was thinking the same | 13:44 |
| nixternal | I can whip up a django app that can control it if needbe as well | 13:44 |
| Riddell | what's django? | 13:44 |
| nixternal | python web framework | 13:44 |
| jussi01 | a very good one | 13:45 |
| nixternal | it is what I did that LoCo directory in | 13:45 |
| jussi01 | django is super. | 13:45 |
| Riddell | shtylman_: awooga! http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/ooo-build/2009-June/000036.html | 13:46 |
| Riddell | shtylman_: so.. when do we get screenshots? | 13:48 |
| Riddell | yuriy: see pykde fix above if you still need it ^^ | 13:48 |
| Riddell | yuriy: how did you get on with the openoffice oxygen icons? | 13:48 |
| Riddell | nixternal: I wonder if report bug should use -P PID instead of -p PACKAGE | 14:27 |
| nixternal | hrmm | 14:28 |
| nixternal | I would say PID | 14:29 |
| nixternal | that way there, if you have multiple instances of it, I guess apport could grab the correct instance of it, but would there be a difference? | 14:29 |
| Riddell | could be, but also the app name might not be the same as the package name | 14:30 |
| nixternal | hrmm, good point, but don't PID grab the app name and not the package name? | 14:31 |
| nixternal | ahh, that's where package hooks come in handy :) | 14:31 |
| nixternal | what do you think about "Report bug to Kubuntu" and "Report bug to KDE"? is that to much you think? | 14:32 |
| Riddell | nixternal: I think users should be prompted to only report to one place | 14:36 |
| rickspencer3 | ScottK ScottK-desktop: are you signed in twice because you are working on a netbook too ;) ? | 14:40 |
| glatzor | Riddell, hi. I changed the way the apt backend operates in packagekit 0.4.x | 14:40 |
| Riddell | glatzor: how so? | 14:40 |
| glatzor | Riddell, in the past it has been a seperate daemon that communicated with packagekitd by dbus | 14:41 |
| glatzor | Riddell, unluckily packagekitd used synchronous dbus calls what resulted in this ugly backend timed out issue | 14:41 |
| Riddell | ugly indeed | 14:41 |
| glatzor | Riddell, so now the apt backend is a spawned process which communicates via stdio/stdout with the packagekid | 14:42 |
| Riddell | yay | 14:42 |
| glatzor | Riddell, this mechanism is used by all the others python based backends too | 14:42 |
| glatzor | Riddell, the dbus backend mechanism wasn't very well maintained by richard too | 14:43 |
| glatzor | The new backend will not run all the time - only for 5 seconds idle time and only a small amount of commands | 14:44 |
| glatzor | so you can see a small delay until a request is processed by the backend - comparing to the dbus backend | 14:45 |
| glatzor | since the backend has to open the apt cache more often | 14:45 |
| glatzor | but with python-apt 0.8 the initial cache reading has been improved a lot. | 14:45 |
| glatzor | Riddell, just for you information | 14:46 |
| Riddell | sounds all good then | 14:46 |
| Riddell | glatzor: do you know what the status is with packagekit and signed repositories? | 14:46 |
| glatzor | what do you want to know? | 14:47 |
| Riddell | if it correcly warns or doesn't allow installing from unsigned repositories | 14:47 |
| glatzor | I did not implement this yet for the apt backend | 14:47 |
| Riddell | glatzor: but there's support for it in packagekit in general? | 14:48 |
| glatzor | right | 14:48 |
| Riddell | glatzor: any plans to implement it for apt? | 14:48 |
| glatzor | there is even a separate PolicyKit privilege for installing not signed packages | 14:48 |
| neversfelde | there seems to be something wrong with choqok, the switch to kde.mk is not done in rules, but mentioned in changelog for 0.6.1-0ubuntu1 | 15:04 |
| neversfelde | can someone fix this without that I open a bug? | 15:04 |
| neversfelde | I have no idea about the copyright symbols in the same entry, that change is not from me | 15:05 |
| neversfelde | something went wrong :) | 15:06 |
| JontheEchidna | I can take a look | 15:06 |
| neversfelde | thank you | 15:07 |
| JontheEchidna | ..or in a bit. I'll be back in 20 mins | 15:09 |
| JontheEchidna | unless I do it real fast | 15:10 |
| JontheEchidna | ugh, the most recent upload wasn't pushed to bzr | 15:12 |
| JontheEchidna | I'll have to do it when I get back | 15:13 |
| Riddell | it's in bzr? | 15:18 |
| Riddell | hmm, so it is | 15:18 |
| nixternal | hrmm, where is plasmapkg | 15:18 |
| glatzor | Riddell, what kind of support do you want for the untrusted packages? | 15:19 |
| Riddell | glatzor: a big fat warning in the UI? | 15:19 |
| glatzor | Riddell, do you want an option to block them? or just a notification to the user that an untrusted package will be installed? | 15:19 |
| Riddell | glatzor: probably both | 15:19 |
| Riddell | nixternal: disappeared? #plasma will know | 15:19 |
| nixternal | well, I hate going there when it is on us and not them though | 15:20 |
| nixternal | hrmm | 15:23 |
| nixternal | looks like it is on us thus far | 15:24 |
| nixternal | plasmapkg used to be in kdebase-workspace-bin and my svn checkout has it in kdebase-runtime | 15:24 |
| glatzor | Riddell, currently it is all or nothing. Either you allow to install unsigned packages by default and provide a warning (which is not yet implemented in the apt backend) or you disallow to install those with PackageKit at all | 15:25 |
| Riddell | glatzor: I'd favour a warning | 15:26 |
| Riddell | I suspect ScottK favours not at all | 15:26 |
| Riddell | jr@wido:~/src/kdebase-runtime/ubuntu/debian>grep plasmapkg * | 15:26 |
| Riddell | not-installed:./usr/bin/plasmapkg is also in package kdebase-workspace-bin | 15:26 |
| Riddell | nixternal: hmm, that could be the problem | 15:26 |
| glatzor | Riddell, the warning will only be submitted during installation | 15:27 |
| glatzor | Riddell, so you don't know before | 15:27 |
| Riddell | glatzor: that's fine | 15:27 |
| glatzor | Riddell, but the situation could improve in the next time | 15:28 |
| nixternal | Riddell: that is be :( once again it looks like list-missing or fail-missing isn't being utilized :/ | 15:29 |
| * nixternal wonders what the purpose of a QA setup is when the common stuff can't even be completed | 15:29 | |
| nixternal | heh, I don't get it...plasmapkg was removed from the kdebase-workspace package but not documented in the changelog, and it wasn't added to kdebase-runtime...so someone obviously noted it was no longer in the one package | 15:32 |
| Riddell | more like it didn't exist in a new KDE version so it just got removed from the .install file | 15:34 |
| Riddell | nixternal: apport patch to kdelibs working well, uploading | 15:34 |
| nixternal | groovy | 15:34 |
| * Quintasan wonders why even examples don't work for him | 15:49 | |
| JontheEchidna | the version of kdebase-runtime I reviewed had plasmapkg, the failure must have come in changes after that | 15:50 |
| JontheEchidna | ah, it did: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members/kdebase-runtime/ubuntu/revision/30 | 15:50 |
| JontheEchidna | anyways, just a bit of confusion solving a file replace conflict | 15:50 |
| rgreening | I really hate gtk | 15:52 |
| nixternal | JontheEchidna: but what I don't understand is how it was removed from one, added to the other, removed from the other, and not added back...all the while not being documented in the changelog at all | 15:54 |
| rgreening | cat /dev/null > changelog | 15:55 |
| nixternal | dh_install: debian/tmp/usr/share/icons/hicolor/index.theme exists in debian/tmp/ but is not installed to anywhere | 15:55 |
| nixternal | dh_install: debian/tmp/usr/bin/plasmapkg exists in debian/tmp/ but is not installed to anywhere | 15:55 |
| nixternal | dh_install: debian/tmp/usr/lib/libkwalletbackend.so exists in debian/tmp/ but is not installed to anywhere | 15:55 |
| nixternal | dh_install: debian/tmp/usr/lib/libmolletnetwork.so exists in debian/tmp/ but is not installed to anywhere | 15:55 |
| shtylman_ | Riddell: http://shtylman.com/stuff/oo/oo_new.png | 15:57 |
| JontheEchidna | neversfelde: fixed choqok uploaded | 16:01 |
| Riddell | thanks JontheEchidna | 16:01 |
| JontheEchidna | yup, no problem | 16:02 |
| yuriy | Riddell: got as far as the current artwork will take me and asked calc to package it so people can try it out | 16:03 |
| Riddell | yuriy: excellent | 16:05 |
| shtylman_ | yuriy: :) | 16:05 |
| Riddell | yuriy: calc isn't on the desktop team currently so I don't know if he'll have time, presumably it's not hard to package ourselves, it's just a zip file | 16:05 |
| Riddell | yuriy: oh and got a screenshot? :) | 16:05 |
| Riddell | yuriy: don't let me forget about packaging userconfig,where is that? | 16:05 |
| yuriy | Riddell: userconfig is here: https://code.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members/guidance/userconfig-kde4 | 16:07 |
| yuriy | Riddell: for icons there's something you need to change in OO.o to get it to pick up the right archive | 16:07 |
| yuriy | Riddell: screenshot here: http://gamemank.wordpress.com/2009/06/11/oxygen-icon-set-for-ooo/ | 16:08 |
| Riddell | yuriy: do you have the full size screenshot? that one's a bit small | 16:10 |
| yuriy | Riddell: http://yktech.us/temp/oo-ox.png | 16:13 |
| Riddell | excellent, this calls for a blog | 16:14 |
| shtylman_ | Riddell: imagine...if I can use that icon set and make a screenshot with the kde4 widget theme I am running :) | 16:15 |
| shtylman_ | even better for your blog :) | 16:15 |
| Riddell | that would be perfect | 16:15 |
| Riddell | yuriy: what's the easiest way for shtylman_ to do that? | 16:16 |
| rgreening | :) | 16:16 |
| yuriy | shtylman_: https://code.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members/openoffice.org-oxygen-icons/oxygen check that out, zip into a file called crystal_images.zip | 16:18 |
| shtylman_ | do I zip up the oxygen folder? or go into it and zip from there? | 16:19 |
| rgreening | Riddell: http://imagebin.ca/view/5E5mIe.html | 16:19 |
| rgreening | the usb-creator-kde is coming along... | 16:19 |
| yuriy | shtylman_: into it | 16:19 |
| shtylman_ | k | 16:20 |
| yuriy | shtylman_: sorry images_crystal.zip | 16:22 |
| yuriy | shtylman_: the file should go here: /usr/lib/openoffice/basis-link/share/config/images_crystal.zip to overwrite the current theme | 16:22 |
| Riddell | so OO icons, widget and usb creator. anything else I should add to my report to the desktop meeting in 10 minutes? | 16:23 |
| shtylman_ | yuriy: ive got it installed locally...but yea...same idea | 16:23 |
| shtylman_ | Riddell yuriy: http://shtylman.com/stuff/oo/oo_icons.png | 16:26 |
| Riddell | shtylman_: perfect! | 16:27 |
| rgreening | Riddell: Here's my blog post on usb-creator... <a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_ScFZQ0ISIX0/Sje6EZJicGI/AAAAAAAAA78/tb2ma7lEcU4/s1600-h/usbcreatorkde.png"><img style="display:block; margin:0px auto 10px; text-align:center;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 320px; height: 273px;" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_ScFZQ0ISIX0/Sje6EZJicGI/AAAAAAAAA78/tb2ma7lEcU4/s320/usbcreatorkde | 16:31 |
| rgreening | .png" border="0" alt=""id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5347947667158888546" /></a> | 16:31 |
| rgreening | oh crap... | 16:31 |
| rgreening | http://roderick-greening.blogspot.com/2009/06/usb-creator-kde-update-and-screenie.html | 16:31 |
| rgreening | where did that other paste come from.. hheheh | 16:31 |
| shtylman_ | rgreening: nice :) | 16:33 |
| rgreening | shtylman_: you have done some nice work yourself... It's impressive getting the ooo kde4 integration done. | 16:34 |
| rgreening | shtylman_: did you see that they are planning a slideshow for installer? are you working on one as well (i.e. copy/port theirs?) | 16:35 |
| shtylman_ | rgreening: I heard but havn't looked into it yet...I will port/copy the needed parts once I start up on the installer again | 16:36 |
| Riddell | ooh, lex79 is going for membership tonight | 16:36 |
| rgreening | cool | 16:36 |
| Riddell | http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/3983 | 16:38 |
| shtylman_ | hahah nice | 16:40 |
| rgreening | sweet | 16:41 |
| rgreening | :P | 16:41 |
| rgreening | me is teh 3l33t | 16:41 |
| Riddell | totally | 16:42 |
| rgreening | hah | 16:42 |
| JontheEchidna | Riddell: clicking for the fullsize OO.o pic gives a 404 | 16:43 |
| Riddell | JontheEchidna: fixed thanks | 16:44 |
| rgreening | lol... | 16:45 |
| rgreening | I have the say, the ooo looks schweet | 16:49 |
| Quintasan | Riddell: are there any specifications for the wallpaper or kdm theme? | 16:50 |
| Riddell | Quintasan: the wallpaper should be a kubuntu paletted version of whatever KDE uses, I think the oxygen artists will take care of that. kdm theme I think kwwii has plans for | 16:57 |
| Quintasan | ok, then I will work on plasmaboard | 16:58 |
| Riddell | Quintasan: what's that? | 16:58 |
| kwwii | I am also working on a plasma theme ;) | 16:58 |
| Quintasan | Riddell: plasma widget with keyboad | 16:58 |
| kwwii | Quintasan: I have an svg with a keyboard I made some time ago for the mobile project if you are interested | 16:59 |
| Quintasan | erm, I put it wrong maybe, I'm annoying upstream with bugs and packaging new versions :P | 17:01 |
| Quintasan | kwwii: but I bet he would be intrested, mind mailing me it? quintasan@kubuntu.org :P | 17:01 |
| kwwii | sure | 17:01 |
| kb9vqf | Quick question...the K3B that is included in Jaunty official repositories: is that the KDE3 or KDE4 version? | 17:15 |
| * kb9vqf is away from a "standard" jaunty install | 17:15 | |
| kb9vqf | this tag is not very helpful: kde4svn935857+really1.0.5-3ubuntu5 | 17:16 |
| rgreening | kwwii: rock on dude. :) | 17:16 |
| cbr | kb9vqf: kde3 | 17:22 |
| kb9vqf | cbr: Thanks! | 17:23 |
| kwwii | Quintasan: sent | 17:23 |
| Quintasan | kwwii: thanks | 17:24 |
| Quintasan | cbr: Know where I can get the kde4 one? I'm sure it was on Tonio_'s PPA but I can't find it now | 17:24 |
| Riddell | KDE 4 k3b is in karmic now | 17:26 |
| Quintasan | thx Riddell | 17:26 |
| Riddell | I don't know of a jaunty build | 17:26 |
| kb9vqf | Another question about K3B: does Jaunty have problems with burning audio CDs? It is throwing a lot of configure warnings regarding ffmpeg, and it has me worried. | 17:32 |
| kwwii | for me, in jaunty it not only doesn't burn right, it also broke my burner but that seems to be a wierd problem and not normal :( | 17:36 |
| Quintasan | can anyone tell me why on earth PolicyKit asks me for root password? | 17:44 |
| Riddell | you're running an app as root? | 17:56 |
| Riddell | kwwii! | 17:56 |
| kwwii | Riddell: yes? | 17:57 |
| Riddell | kwwii: k3b broke your CD burner! | 17:57 |
| kwwii | yeah, been a few years since that happened | 17:58 |
| kb9vqf | I remember that...it was actually a kernel problem as I recall | 17:58 |
| kwwii | might well have been | 17:58 |
| kb9vqf | Something about a buggy firmware in certain CDROM drives | 17:58 |
| kb9vqf | It is a shame though...the manufacturer should have replaced the drives | 17:58 |
| kb9vqf | Seeing as it was technically their fault :) | 17:59 |
| kwwii | or we should have been more careful | 17:59 |
| kb9vqf | Well, the kernel was following the correct protocol IIRC; unfortunately a little used identification function cleared the firmware in the drive | 18:01 |
| kwwii | funny thing is, it still works in windows | 18:01 |
| seele | does OO integration include kde file and print dialogs? | 18:02 |
| kwwii | but anyway.../me is off to band practice | 18:02 |
| kb9vqf | Anyone have a guess as to where the default configure flag \${prefix}/include/kde comes from? | 18:05 |
| Mamarok | Riddell: I have a guy asking about how to do an OEM installation of 9.04, where should I send him to? | 18:05 |
| mcasadevall | kb9vqf, I'm going to guess autoconf (its mostly shell, its not hard to override the defaults) | 18:05 |
| mcasadevall | Mamarok, OEM installation as in en-mass, or just a handful machines? | 18:06 |
| === mcasadevall is now known as NCommander | ||
| * NCommander wonders why he keeps coming on as mcasadevall ... | 18:06 | |
| yuriy | seele: file yes, print... shtylman_ ? | 18:06 |
| kb9vqf | NCommander: so dpkg-buildpackage runs autoconf before configure? | 18:06 |
| Mamarok | NCommander: no ide, he is in #kubuntu, named squinkles | 18:06 |
| NCommander | kb9vqf, depends on the package; I assume this is a KDE3-era package (almost all KDE packages now are CMake based) | 18:07 |
| kb9vqf | NCommander: Yes, k3b kde3 | 18:07 |
| NCommander | kb9vqf, check the configure.ac/configure.in | 18:07 |
| kb9vqf | NCommander: It's not there | 18:08 |
| NCommander | aclocal.m4 would be my other guess | 18:08 |
| NCommander | autoconf is some serious voodoo | 18:08 |
| kb9vqf | NCommander: It looks like dpkg-buildpackage loads a set of default flags with which it then calls ./configure with | 18:08 |
| kb9vqf | NCommander: No kidding | 18:09 |
| NCommander | dpkg-buildpackage won't set that automatically | 18:09 |
| NCommander | Oh wait | 18:09 |
| NCommander | if its a KDE3 package it *might* be using CDBS as its build system | 18:09 |
| NCommander | Which could do it | 18:09 |
| NCommander | What does debian/rules say? | 18:09 |
| kb9vqf | NCommander: Yes, I think it might be using CDBS | 18:10 |
| kb9vqf | NCommander: here's a pastebin of the dpkg-buildpackage: http://pastebin.ca/1462356 | 18:10 |
| NCommander | kb9vqf, debian/rules in the source package is what controls the package build | 18:11 |
| kb9vqf | NCommander: It is definitely using CDBS--I've been looking through those files, but one file leads to another, and then to another..... | 18:11 |
| NCommander | dpkg-buildpackage pretty much calls that to build the package | 18:11 |
| NCommander | kb9vqf, welcome to CDBS. it makes autoconf look trivial in comparsion | 18:11 |
| kb9vqf | NCommander: Right, but in this case it is very minimal: http://pastebin.ca/1462357 | 18:11 |
| kb9vqf | NCommander: The debian/rules that is :) | 18:12 |
| NCommander | Yeah, then its the CDBS rules | 18:12 |
| NCommander | kb9vqf, what are you trying to do? | 18:12 |
| kb9vqf | NCommander: I need to override those default flags entirely to remove all the references to /kde/include | 18:12 |
| NCommander | Ugh | 18:12 |
| NCommander | That's a nightmare | 18:12 |
| kb9vqf | NCommander: I am passing /opt/kde3/include/kde3 to it, but since CDBS got there first, you get the idea :( | 18:13 |
| NCommander | Oh, for the KDE3 remix or? | 18:13 |
| kb9vqf | NCommander: Yup | 18:13 |
| seele | hmm.. a lot of third party vendors dont like to sign their packages | 18:13 |
| kb9vqf | NCommander: If I just knew what make variable to unset... | 18:13 |
| kb9vqf | This is K3B we're talking about | 18:13 |
| NCommander | kb9vqf, its not going to be easy to fix | 18:14 |
| NCommander | kb9vqf, not without invasive changes | 18:14 |
| NCommander | kb9vqf, I *think* you can override configure options by specifiying them multiple times | 18:15 |
| NCommander | i.e. --prefix=/blah --prefix=/blah2 | 18:15 |
| NCommander | (blah2 would take presence) | 18:15 |
| kb9vqf | In this case it isn't working for whatever reason. Is there a list of all make variables somewhere? | 18:15 |
| NCommander | Which means you can use the DEB_EXTRA_CONFIGURE_OPTS (or something like that) | 18:15 |
| NCommander | kb9vqf, ?? | 18:15 |
| kb9vqf | Well, a list of all variables such as DEB_CONFIGURE_EXTRA_FLAGS, DEB_MAKE_INSTALL_TARGET, etc | 18:16 |
| NCommander | That's it | 18:16 |
| kb9vqf | Ughh | 18:16 |
| NCommander | Its something like DEB_CONFIGURE_EXTRA_FLAGS := *your flags go here* | 18:16 |
| NCommander | and then hope they come out in the right order. | 18:16 |
| kb9vqf | NCommander: You were right! It is in acinclude.m4 after all--my initial search just missed it. It is also in admin/acinclude.m4.in and admin/cvs.sh | 18:23 |
| NCommander | kb9vqf, I highly recommend not editing those files because then you need to regenerate the autofun shit | 18:23 |
| NCommander | kb9vqf, and that can be a nightmare all of in it self, if you can simply append the necessary configure flags, that's the way to go. | 18:24 |
| kb9vqf | Well, I'm not sure I have much choice. The lousy configure script is taking only the first parameter, and ignoring the duplicate. | 18:24 |
| kb9vqf | In certain situations only, such as aRTs detection | 18:25 |
| kb9vqf | Just to make it more fun! | 18:25 |
| yuriy | uhoh | 18:25 |
| NCommander | kb9vqf, *grumble*. Why do you need repackage k3b | 18:25 |
| * yuriy looks two down on planet at seli's post | 18:25 | |
| NCommander | kb9vqf, I thought the jaunty/karmic version was still based against KDE3 | 18:25 |
| yuriy | oh nvm | 18:26 |
| yuriy | roman is mentioned there :) | 18:26 |
| kb9vqf | NCommander: Karmic won't be | 18:26 |
| kb9vqf | NCommander: And the libraries are not in /opt/kde3, so the user gets to have double the disk usage from kdelibs4 | 18:26 |
| NCommander | kb9vqf, EGRUMBLE | 18:26 |
| NCommander | :-P | 18:26 |
| kb9vqf | Hey, it's mostly my hassle, I should be the one grumbling! :) | 18:26 |
| * NCommander wonders when KDE4 will get to the point that KDE3 is unneccessary | 18:27 | |
| * kb9vqf GRUBLES | 18:27 | |
| NCommander | :-) | 18:27 |
| * kb9vqf wonders the same thing, but thinks it might be years | 18:27 | |
| kb9vqf | No offense! | 18:27 |
| apachelogger | opinions about bug 387876 ? | 18:27 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 387876 in kubuntu-meta "kcron should be in the default install" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/387876 | 18:27 |
| apachelogger | kb9vqf: fork cdbs :P | 18:31 |
| apachelogger | well, not completely, but the kde.mk file to cdbs-kde3 or something | 18:31 |
| * kb9vqf spears cdbs with a trident | 18:31 | |
| Riddell | apachelogger: cron isn't terribly useful unless you know how to program and use a command line, in which case a UI isn't really necessary | 18:31 |
| kb9vqf | There, forked :) | 18:31 |
| kb9vqf | apachelogger: Yes, I might have to do that | 18:31 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: my thinking as well | 18:31 |
| apachelogger | kb9vqf: well, you really just need to edit the kde.mk file | 18:32 |
| apachelogger | it creates all the arguments | 18:32 |
| apachelogger | and since we are probably not going to change the kde.mk in cdbs anymore it would really just be a changed copy rather than a real fork anyway | 18:32 |
| kb9vqf | apachelogger: I'll give that a shot--I could copy kde.mk to the debian directory, rename it, fix it, and include it. | 18:32 |
| apachelogger | kb9vqf: you just need to change the flags in your kde.mk ... no fiddling with cdbs at all :P | 18:32 |
| kb9vqf | Thanks for the idea! :) | 18:33 |
| apachelogger | kb9vqf: well, if you don't mess up that should work just fine, but I really recommend you create a package for it ;-) | 18:33 |
| apachelogger | we had the .mk files for KDE 4 packages in the debian dir for some time ... was horrible | 18:33 |
| * kb9vqf thinks about it | 18:33 | |
| * kb9vqf thinks harder about it | 18:33 | |
| JontheEchidna | kcron == useless for most people | 18:36 |
| kb9vqf | apachelogger: Well, that does allow me to change the flags properly. I'll put a fixed copy in the kde3 devel package. | 18:36 |
| kb9vqf | I found a better way! | 18:38 |
| kb9vqf | DEB_CONFIGURE_INCLUDEDIR := /opt/kde3/include/kde5 | 18:38 |
| kb9vqf | DEB_CONFIGURE_PREFIX := /opt/kde3 | 18:38 |
| kb9vqf | not kde5, kde | 18:39 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: kcron is on the dvd I suppose? | 18:40 |
| apachelogger | kb9vqf: if kde.mk honors them it is better indeed ;-) | 18:40 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: did an all fancy reply :D | 18:44 |
| apachelogger | anyway | 18:44 |
| apachelogger | gotta go | 18:44 |
| apachelogger | see you at the meeting | 18:44 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: yes | 18:48 |
| shtylman_ | yuriy: is the print dialog integratable? | 18:55 |
| JontheEchidna | apachelogger: do we really need bug 220940 around anymore? It seems a bit useless now | 19:01 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 220940 in kubuntu-kde4-meta "KDE 4 Migration Issues" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/220940 | 19:01 |
| Riddell | I suspect it can go | 19:02 |
| yuriy | shtylman_: not a clue | 19:05 |
| shtylman_ | k..I will ask around...for now I will just focus on the current patches...trying really hard to get something in PPA :) | 19:06 |
| === rickspencer3 is now known as rickspencer3-afk | ||
| jussi01 | Riddell: or someone who knows, where can we get and test this new OOo shinyness? | 20:54 |
| nixternal | I hate plasmoids! | 20:55 |
| nixternal | Plasma.GroupBox + Plasma.RadioButton == PITA!!! | 20:55 |
| jussi01 | nixternal: awww... :D | 20:56 |
| asraniel | any idea when the debug packages for kde 4.3 beta 2 are going to be fixed in 9.04? there is not much point in testing a beta if i can't get a backtrace.. | 20:59 |
| shtylman_ | jussi01: the master branch of go-oo...or wait until I get a PPA going :) | 21:03 |
| Quintasan | apachelogger: ping | 21:10 |
| Quintasan | shtylman_: ping me when PPA is ready if you can :) | 21:11 |
| shtylman_ | Quintasan: will do | 21:11 |
| === brunocqc is now known as brunoqc | ||
| JontheEchidna | asraniel: they're broken? | 21:24 |
| freinhard | used to have that timetracking thing in kontact, gone in 4.3 on jaunty. installed ktimetracker, looks like the app i was missing but unfortunately doesn't integrate in kontact any more? | 21:27 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: can die | 21:27 |
| apachelogger | Quintasan: pong | 21:27 |
| Quintasan | apachelogger: got a second for explaining Ruby? :P | 21:27 |
| JontheEchidna | ah, damn. I may miss the meeting tonight :( | 21:28 |
| apachelogger | Quintasan: what do you need explaind? | 21:28 |
| apachelogger | as promised I am not too sober anymore :P | 21:28 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: who is going to go for membership then? Oo | 21:28 |
| JontheEchidna | lex? | 21:28 |
| apachelogger | well, KC I mean | 21:28 |
| JontheEchidna | oh, that | 21:29 |
| Quintasan | apachelogger: I'm trying to execute the code he puts there but one example doesn't work, even copy pasted, I wonder what I'm doing wrong. http://poignantguide.net/ruby/chapter-4.html The part with Hash | 21:29 |
| === brunoqc is now known as bbigras | ||
| * Quintasan is now toying with File:: | 21:29 | |
| JontheEchidna | I sorta kinda found out 5 mins ago that my sister has a music recital today at the same time as the meeting :/ | 21:30 |
| apachelogger | Quintasan: which one precisely? | 21:30 |
| apachelogger | there are multiple hash parts :D | 21:30 |
| jussi01 | JontheEchidna: s blow off the music recital? :D | 21:30 |
| * jussi01 hugs JontheEchidna | 21:30 | |
| * apachelogger thinks JontheEchidna is doing good on blowing off the meeting though | 21:31 | |
| Quintasan | apachelogger: Making the Swap part | 21:31 |
| JontheEchidna | ;-) | 21:31 |
| apachelogger | Quintasan: you need to add the code_words variable defined earier to that file | 21:32 |
| apachelogger | since the error is probably something like method code_words undefined | 21:33 |
| Quintasan | apachelogger: I saved this to another file since he uses require 'wordlist' :< | 21:33 |
| apachelogger | ah good point :D | 21:34 |
| asraniel | JontheEchidna: well i can't install them at least, something about broken dependencies on qt debug (wrong version or so) | 21:34 |
| JontheEchidna | ugh, yet another problem caused by moving from kubuntu-ppa/experimental | 21:35 |
| JontheEchidna | which I ain't going to fix because I'm not the one who moved the packages there :P | 21:35 |
| JontheEchidna | plus I don't have time today | 21:35 |
| JontheEchidna | where's lex when you need a minion... | 21:36 |
| Quintasan | :3 | 21:36 |
| Mamarok | JontheEchidna: he will be at the meeting :) | 21:36 |
| JontheEchidna | I won't be though :( | 21:37 |
| Quintasan | JontheEchidna: you should put *evil grin* at the end of last sentence :P | 21:37 |
| JontheEchidna | >:3 | 21:37 |
| apachelogger | Quintasan: rather weird TBH | 21:38 |
| Quintasan | apachelogger: I just pasted the code_words to the right file and it automagically worked, guess someone screwd up :P | 21:39 |
| apachelogger | well | 21:39 |
| apachelogger | technically the require should work | 21:39 |
| Quintasan | apachelogger: but it's not working | 21:39 |
| neversfelde | so where does pbuilder stores the build log by default | 21:39 |
| apachelogger | Quintasan: well, make it an instance variable and it will | 21:40 |
| apachelogger | @code_words | 21:40 |
| Quintasan | dunno if I linked it here but take a look: http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/bkodama?content=106528 | 21:41 |
| apachelogger | maybe the behaviour of ruby changed since the tutorial was written, but usually a require shouldn't enforce a new object unless the required file suggests one, so any variable should be just added to the self object | 21:42 |
| apachelogger | *shrug* | 21:42 |
| javi | Quintasan: you made the bkodama plasmoid? | 21:42 |
| Quintasan | javi: nah but it's funny and useless which guarantess it a place on my desktop :3 | 21:42 |
| * Quintasan might write his first useful script in ruby | 21:43 | |
| javi | yes it's awesome, my gf was looking straight to the screen for a while just waiting for it to show :D | 21:43 |
| Quintasan | I'm having problems with compiling it :P | 21:43 |
| apachelogger | markey: btw, I played little big planet today ... way too awesome | 21:43 |
| apachelogger | way more awesome than any wii game I played so far | 21:44 |
| javi | I compiled 0.1 a few days ago and had no problems, I'm going to try the newer version and tell | 21:45 |
| Quintasan | hmm I think I'm going to put it into my PPA :P | 21:47 |
| javi | I just compiled it without any problem... | 21:47 |
| javi | javi@xps1330:~/Software/src/bkodama-0.2.1/build$ make | 21:47 |
| javi | Scanning dependencies of target plasma_applet_bkodama_automoc | 21:47 |
| javi | Generating bkodama.moc | 21:47 |
| javi | [ 0%] Built target plasma_applet_bkodama_automoc | 21:47 |
| javi | [ 33%] Generating ui_bkodamaConfig.h | 21:47 |
| javi | Scanning dependencies of target plasma_applet_bkodama | 21:47 |
| javi | [ 66%] Building CXX object src/CMakeFiles/plasma_applet_bkodama.dir/plasma_applet_bkodama_automoc.o | 21:47 |
| javi | [100%] Building CXX object src/CMakeFiles/plasma_applet_bkodama.dir/bkodama.o | 21:47 |
| javi | Linking CXX shared module ../lib/plasma_applet_bkodama.so | 21:47 |
| javi | [100%] Built target plasma_applet_bkodama | 21:48 |
| javi | ups | 21:48 |
| javi | sorry | 21:48 |
| apachelogger | javi: order brain | 21:48 |
| apachelogger | hm | 21:48 |
| apachelogger | clearly bot is broken though, which made my script break as well | 21:48 |
| javi | http://pastebin.ca/1462579 | 21:48 |
| apachelogger | oh dear | 21:48 |
| Quintasan | apachelogger: wanted to type order brain for javi :P | 21:48 |
| jussi01 | apachelogger: was it on my server? | 21:48 |
| apachelogger | jussi01: yus | 21:49 |
| Quintasan | javi: zomg it's alive :P | 21:49 |
| apachelogger | Quintasan: kinda | 21:49 |
| jussi01 | apachelogger: half of oulus net is down atm, server included | 21:49 |
| apachelogger | too drunk anyway | 21:49 |
| apachelogger | oh dear | 21:49 |
| apachelogger | sue them :P | 21:49 |
| jussi01 | heh | 21:49 |
| jussi01 | apachelogger: bit hard when I get the service for free | 21:49 |
| javi | what's that order brain you want to make me :D | 21:49 |
| * Quintasan is staring into his desktop | 21:49 | |
| apachelogger | jussi01: doesn't matter :P | 21:51 |
| apachelogger | javi: well, that was meant for kubotu, but since it is kinda down | 21:51 |
| apachelogger | jussi01: btw, I need a fancy init script for the bot | 21:51 |
| apachelogger | it's kinda annoying to start it everytime manually :D | 21:51 |
| jussi01 | apachelogger: ahh, nice :) | 21:52 |
| apachelogger | gotta master something up | 21:54 |
| javi | Quintasan: anyway it seems like it doesn't work right, it doesn't walk and fade anymore. But in the other hand it now makes the moonwalk which is awesome | 21:54 |
| Quintasan | it walks here, dunno about moonwalk | 21:54 |
| Quintasan | also "shaking" head | 21:55 |
| Quintasan | spinning rather :P | 21:55 |
| javi | I mean it moves horizontally without moving the legs, so moonwalk! | 21:55 |
| Quintasan | lol | 21:55 |
| Quintasan | hmm what about pinentry for kde4? | 22:02 |
| neversfelde | don't we have pinentry Qt4? | 22:04 |
| ScottK | We do. | 22:04 |
| * Quintasan notes his pinentry looks Qt3ish | 22:06 | |
| Quintasan | maybe I've done something bad and it's my punishment :< | 22:06 |
| apachelogger | probably | 22:07 |
| Quintasan | ok, I know whats wrong | 22:10 |
| Quintasan | acetoneiso uses pinentry-qt | 22:10 |
| Quintasan | javi: it fails to build under karmic cause of missing "Phonon/Global" | 22:13 |
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| * shtylman_ is tired on compiling openoffice :) | 22:17 | |
| shtylman_ | *of | 22:17 |
| Quintasan | apachelogger: in jaunty libphonon-dev provides Phonon/Global, but in Karmic there is no such package, and libqt4-phonon-dev doesn't contain Phonon/Global, what should I do? poke upstream of plasmoid? | 22:17 |
| kwwii | Quintasan: I as thinking about the kdm theme for karmic...you mentioned interest in it, I am more of a designer than a coder, so maybe we could accomplish this together? | 22:17 |
| kwwii | s/as/was | 22:17 |
| Quintasan | kwwii: I will need to read some guides on coding but sure :) | 22:17 |
| apachelogger | Quintasan: probably plasmoid, but better talk to Riddell first | 22:18 |
| javi | what happened with that kdm as plasmoid project, was it even started? | 22:18 |
| apachelogger | Quintasan: kdm themes are XML IIRC, so that shouldn't be too difficult | 22:18 |
| apachelogger | javi: not started AFAIK, also I wonder if that wouldn't slow down kdm startup a lot | 22:19 |
| apachelogger | plasma depends on a lot more libs for startup than kdm does | 22:19 |
| shtylman_ | meeting in 40 min? | 22:19 |
| yuriy | I thought it's an hour and 40 | 22:19 |
| shtylman_ | maybe...I can never get utc time right :) | 22:19 |
| apachelogger | DST doesn't help for sure ;-) | 22:20 |
| javi | can't you make the bot tell the utc time? | 22:22 |
| apachelogger | !time | 22:22 |
| ubottu | Information about using and setting your computer's clock on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuTime - See https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/serverguide/C/NTP.html for information on usage of the Network Time Protocol (NTP) | 22:22 |
| Quintasan | shtylman_: date -u for utc time? :P | 22:22 |
| apachelogger | javi: the bot in -meeting can | 22:22 |
| shtylman_ | hahaha | 22:23 |
| shtylman_ | Quintasan: much appreciated :) | 22:23 |
| * Quintasan discovered it 35 minutes earlier | 22:23 | |
| yuriy | or an extra checkbox in your plasma clock | 22:23 |
| apachelogger | Quintasan, shtylman_: you can actually use the plasma clock | 22:23 |
| nhandler | Would any Kubuntu Ninjas (or other developers) be interested in leading a Packaging Training session on June 18th at 18:00 UTC? | 22:23 |
| * apachelogger has his clock set to UTC by defautl an switches to local when needed | 22:23 | |
| apachelogger | nhandler: about? | 22:24 |
| shtylman_ | if I had a clock set to UTC ... I would be all sorts of messed up... | 22:25 |
| Quintasan | woah, thx apachelogger :p | 22:26 |
| apachelogger | well, I would suppose it works the other way round as well | 22:26 |
| apachelogger | using local as default and switching to utc upon scroll | 22:26 |
| Quintasan | fix kubotu since I can't order cookies for you apachelogger | 22:26 |
| Quintasan | :P | 22:26 |
| apachelogger | tell jussi01 | 22:26 |
| Quintasan | jussi01: ^ | 22:26 |
| Tonio_ | fyi, all packagekit 0.4 branch is uploaded | 22:26 |
| Tonio_ | including kpackagekit | 22:26 |
| Quintasan | oh, about kpackagekit | 22:27 |
| apachelogger | Quintasan, shtylman_: just click on the timezones you want to use, in the bottom combobox you can select the default | 22:27 |
| Quintasan | it always asks for root password, not mine password, what's wrong? | 22:27 |
| apachelogger | so e.g. if you click only on UTC and use local as default upon scroll on the clock widget it will switch to UTC | 22:27 |
| Tonio_ | Quintasan: hum your user doesn't have permissions | 22:27 |
| Quintasan | apachelogger: I figured it out, thx for scrolling tip :P | 22:28 |
| Tonio_ | Quintasan: check in policykit perms in systemsettings | 22:28 |
| Quintasan | Tonio_: how come, gnome backend worked fine (when Qt one crashed) | 22:28 |
| Tonio_ | Quintasan: either your user or the users group needs to have permissions to install | 22:28 |
| Tonio_ | Quintasan: hum.... then I don't understand | 22:28 |
| Tonio_ | Quintasan: are you using karmic or jaunty ? | 22:28 |
| Quintasan | jaunty | 22:28 |
| Tonio_ | weird... | 22:29 |
| Tonio_ | Quintasan: that reminds me of when policykit-kde was incomplete | 22:29 |
| Tonio_ | I didn't saw that error since then.... | 22:29 |
| Quintasan | I also can't find PolicyKit in systemsettings | 22:29 |
| Tonio_ | Quintasan: have some ppa packages that may override yours ? | 22:29 |
| Tonio_ | Quintasan: then you may not have policykit-kde installed do you ? | 22:30 |
| Quintasan | both -gnome and -kde installed | 22:30 |
| Tonio_ | Quintasan: purge and reinstall policykit-kde | 22:30 |
| Tonio_ | Quintasan: it is incomplete for some reasons | 22:30 |
| Tonio_ | the kcm module should be there | 22:31 |
| Quintasan | woah, I'm using policykit 0.0+svn920907-0ubuntu1 | 22:31 |
| Tonio_ | Quintasan: do you have the file /usr/share/kde4/services/kcm_pkk_authorization.desktop on your hard drive ? | 22:32 |
| Tonio_ | Quintasan: it doesn't make sense to me you can't find that in systemsettings | 22:32 |
| Quintasan | nope, no kcm_blabla.desktop | 22:32 |
| Quintasan | let me check for any "stable" PPA's | 22:33 |
| Tonio_ | and dpkg -L policykit-kde, does it claim you should have it ? | 22:33 |
| Quintasan | Tonio_: nope, it doesn't | 22:34 |
| Tonio_ | hu ? | 22:34 |
| Tonio_ | Quintasan: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=kcm_pkk_authorization.desktop&mode=exactfilename&suite=jaunty&arch=any | 22:35 |
| Tonio_ | Quintasan: the file *should* be there | 22:35 |
| Tonio_ | Quintasan: as said, purge + reinstall, it should fix | 22:35 |
| kwwii | Quintasan: cool, once I have a chance to figure out what is really possible and what I think would be good I'll get in touch and we can bounce ideas off each other to figure out what to do | 22:39 |
| Quintasan | Tonio_: that fixed the problem, thanks! | 22:43 |
| Tonio_ | Quintasan: no pb ;) | 22:53 |
| Quintasan | hmm webKam is crashing, not good, and I just found my camera | 22:53 |
| Quintasan | so much tasks found is 5 minutes | 22:53 |
| Quintasan | :S | 22:53 |
| Mamarok | hm, meeting? | 23:02 |
| Quintasan | in one hour | 23:02 |
| Mamarok | arghs, my clock tells me 23 UTC is now :( | 23:06 |
| neversfelde | +2 :) | 23:07 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: if I am right ubuntu beginners meeting is at 23 UTC | 23:18 |
| apachelogger | at least their google calendar says so | 23:18 |
| nhandler | apachelogger: That is correct, which is why we are meeting in here | 23:19 |
| apachelogger | nhandler: k, just was confused because jr's mail said it was in -meeting :D | 23:19 |
| nhandler | apachelogger: Yeah. I didn't catch the conflict until last night. I put a note in the channel topic here to try and minimize confusion | 23:20 |
| apachelogger | true :D | 23:21 |
| apachelogger | didn't read since it looked all the same :D | 23:21 |
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| * shtylman_ likes that his desktop takes only a little over an hour to completely compile open office | 23:31 | |
| neversfelde | are we talking about arora beeing the default webbrowser today? | 23:31 |
| Quintasan | there was a release with support for flash? | 23:32 |
| apachelogger | that is handled through qt really | 23:32 |
| neversfelde | I am really tired and have to wake up early, so I do not know how long I can stay, but I would like to mention, that our default browser should be able to import ssl certs | 23:33 |
| neversfelde | would someone bring it to attention, if I am not there? | 23:33 |
| Quintasan | I can | 23:34 |
| neversfelde | thanks | 23:34 |
| Quintasan | neversfelde: hmm by importing you mean adding them manually? I've entered wiki.kubuntu.org and Arora asked to whether I want to import a cert or not | 23:39 |
| apachelogger | Quintasan: that is pretty darn awful | 23:41 |
| neversfelde | Quintasan: it asks to ignore, but that is poor security practice. You should be able to import e.g. the cacerts root certificate manually | 23:41 |
| shtylman_ | Riddell: I can't stay very long in the meeting...have to be somewhere at 30min past the hour ...is there anything that will be covered that I need to update you on? just incase I am not here...? | 23:44 |
| * Nightrose would apprechiate a shortish meeting - tiiiiiiiired :D | 23:49 | |
| apachelogger | +1 | 23:50 |
| nhandler | 5 minutes until the meeting. The meeting will take place in here | 23:56 |
| * kb9vqf agrees with Nightrose ;) | 23:58 | |
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