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BUGabundokklimonda: see why we should be in bug squad ?LOL00:00
AdysJust upgraded to karmic from jaunty. I'm not able to restart X anymore through ctrl alt backspace. dontzap is set to false; any idea?00:00
BUGabundoAdys: could you on JJ ?00:03
Adysyes00:03
BUGabundohave you restarted *after* using dontzap?00:03
Adysyeah00:03
Adysalso I lost my system beeps :/00:03
BUGabundook00:03
BUGabundofile a bug00:03
BUGabundotwo even00:03
BluesKajnot working here either00:03
BUGabundobut then again, the beeps I think it's a _feature_00:03
AdysI rather figure out why those are happening before filing a bug :)00:04
BUGabundomaybe dontzap is not updated to new X on KK ?00:06
Adysrelogging00:07
SarvattAdys: it is because of the new xkeyboard-config, its an intentional change. one second and  i'll get you the new way DontZap is handled00:07
Adysoh00:07
Adysok00:07
Sarvattyou can map it to any button combo and enable/disable it in userspace now instead of having to change xorg.conf and restart x00:08
Adyssounds saner00:08
Sarvattsetxkbmap -option terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp00:08
kklimondayeah, DontZap option was a nasty hack..00:08
Adysthanks a lot :)00:08
* BUGabundo likes to hear Sarvatt speak! s/he sound so confident00:08
Adysmight want to leave a note in the alpha release notes00:09
yoasif_kklimonda, the crash was old -- and new crashes don't seem to be placing any .crash files into /var/crash -- any ideas?00:09
kklimondayoasif_: in terminal do00:09
kklimondasudo force_start=1 /etc/init.d/apport restart00:10
pace_t_zuluSarvatt: i marked bug 387548 as a duplicate of bug 38703600:10
ubottuLaunchpad bug 387548 in ubuntu "Could not display "computer:///"." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/38754800:10
ubottuLaunchpad bug 387036 in gvfs "gvfsd-computer crashed with SIGSEGV in strchr()" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/38703600:10
kklimondayoasif_: then cat /proc/sys/kernel/core_pattern should print it:00:11
kklimonda|/usr/share/apport/apport %p %s %c00:11
Sarvattah yeah sounds like your problem when I was looking at it00:11
yoasif_kklimonda, yeah it does00:11
kklimondayoasif_: try now..00:11
yoasif_kklimonda, no goo00:11
yoasif_good*00:11
kklimondayoasif_: if it doesn't work you could try doing it old, hard way..00:12
BUGabundoSarvatt: that's a lot of karma for some one so new to LP00:12
BUGabundogood job!00:12
BUGabundoSarvatt: X dev too ?00:12
AdysSarvatt: works great cheers.00:12
kklimondayoasif_: ulimit -c 100000000000:12
kklimondayoasif_: transmission00:12
kklimondawhen it crashes it should leave core file in current folder..00:13
kklimondaBUGabundo: any idea why apport doesn't work for yoasif_ ? :/00:14
AdysSarvatt: doesnt seem to last through a x zap though :)00:14
BUGabundokklimonda: I had it happen before to me00:14
yoasif_kklimonda, got a core, should i just upload it to a new bug report?00:14
BUGabundoonce it was the default that would not set00:14
kklimondayoasif_: no00:14
BUGabundobut he can manually fire it00:14
kklimondayoasif_: now you need debug packages..00:14
kklimondayoasif_: basically https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProgramCrash00:15
Sarvattit's a checkbox option in system - preferences - keyboard - layout - layout options00:16
yoasif_kklimonda, this is ugly heh00:16
Sarvatt(terminate x server keyboard shortcut I mean)00:16
kklimondayoasif_: you could upload core and I'll do it00:16
AdysSarvatt: yeah, it gets reset if i restart x the same session i set it in00:16
Adysthat's prolly a bug00:16
Sarvattlooking into some way to transition it so if dontzap is in xorg.conf it'll enable it now00:17
yoasif_kklimonda, i'll link you to the report when it's up00:17
kklimondak00:17
AdysSarvatt: I managed to fix the extremely low quality sound I had on usb headphones too. installed pavucontrol and set i/o to both digital (was set to analog)00:17
Adysin case anyone gets a similar problem00:18
Adysstill didnt get my beeps back though00:18
=== yoasif_ is now known as yoasif
Sarvattya actually like beeps?00:18
BUGabundoAdys: digital works for you ?00:18
AdysYeah00:18
AdysBUGabundo: sure00:18
BUGabundoI can only use analog00:18
AdysWhat sound device do you use?00:19
Adysusb headphones, ..?00:19
Sarvattno idea how to go about routing the beep to a secondary usb sound card..00:19
AdysI don't wanna route it :P00:19
AdysI like it as it is, crystal mb beep00:19
BUGabundoSarvatt: afaik right now you can only manage ONE usb card00:20
Sarvattthe beep is a seperate alsa module in the kernel though, i dont know how it would work that way00:20
Sarvattif i'm not mistaken00:21
Adysalsa module? uhm00:21
Adysits a singletone beep why would alsa want it :P00:21
Sarvattpastebin a dmesg after plugging in the usb headphones?00:21
Adysits nothing to do with the headphones00:21
AdysI lost it completely00:21
yoasifwhat is the best way to report bugs using usb sound devices (like headsets)?00:22
AdysSarvatt: http://pastebin.com/d433f3fbe heres a dmesg anyway00:23
Sarvattwell your beep is starting up right, getting muted somewhere along the line probably00:24
yoasifkklimonda, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/transmission/+bug/38756400:25
ubottuLaunchpad bug 387564 in transmission "transmission: event.c:875: timeout_next: Assertion `tv->tv_usec >= 0' failed." [Undecided,New]00:25
Sarvatt#00:25
Sarvatt#00:25
Sarvatt[   10.079767] usbcore: registered new interface driver snd-usb-audio00:25
Sarvatt#00:25
Sarvatt[   10.467931] input: HDA Digital PCBeep as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1b.0/input/input1000:25
Sarvatt(thats your usb headphones)00:25
kklimondayoasif: it's fixed00:25
yoasifkklimonda, haha ok... you knew about that bug?00:25
AdysSarvatt: it dies before then00:26
Adyshad the headphones unplugged when i reinstalled, still couldnt get any00:26
kklimondayoasif: It is http://trac.transmissionbt.com/ticket/2078, I keep track of transmission bugs.00:27
yoasifkklimonda, thanks :)00:28
kklimondayoasif: also bugs that raise assertion errors are ease to remember.00:28
kklimondaeasy*00:28
yoasifhehe...00:29
AdysSarvatt: I got some stuff to do now; ill try to fix this later and ping back if i manage to00:31
Sarvattpace_t_zulu: are you saying the checkbox option for dontzap in the keyboard layout settings doesnt stick, or that the setxkbmap thing I said?00:32
pace_t_zuluSarvatt: what are you referring to?00:32
AdysSarvatt: setxkbmap one00:32
Sarvattoh I'm sorry, got you mixed up with Adys00:32
pace_t_zuluSarvatt: no worries00:33
Sarvattahh yeah thats intentional00:33
Adyswhy?00:33
kklimondayoasif: don't know when new version is going to be uploaded to KK though. It may take few days.00:33
BUGabundoSarvatt: I don't see that on my Shortcut00:34
Sarvatti was just saying a temporary way you can change it, you can permenantly set it in system - preferences - keyboard - layout - layout options00:34
BUGabundoohh layout00:34
BUGabundowrong place00:34
AdysOh right00:34
yoasifkklimonda, lame, but not a huge deal... i have to file a laptop overheating bug anyway00:34
AdysYeha i switched it there. i thought the terminal command would store the pref00:34
Sarvattsorry, didnt make that clear00:34
BUGabundoSarvatt: so it is the "Special  Keys hadnled in a server"?00:36
* BUGabundo feels ignored by Sarvatt :(00:37
Sarvatthttp://freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/XKeyboardConfig00:37
arpuhello00:46
arpucan someone help me boot in karmic alpha2 from ubuntu grub 9.04 ?00:46
BUGabundoarpu: hi00:48
BUGabundoarpu: that's not clear!00:48
BUGabundodo you want to *upgrade* to karmic from jaunty?00:48
BUGabundoor do you want to upgrade grub from v1 to v2, while running karmic?00:48
arpuBUGabundo: no nothing00:49
arpui have my working installation on /dev/sda3 with jaunty00:49
arpuand now i installed kubuntu karmic on /dev/sda400:49
BUGabundook00:50
arpuand my i changed my grub file from jaunty00:50
arputo00:50
arpuhttp://paste.railsbox.eu/show/30/00:51
arpubut after boot i get file not found00:51
billybigriggerlook in your grub config01:04
billybigrigger/boot/grub/menu.lst01:04
billybigriggerpastebin that01:04
billybigriggerarpu::: ???01:05
billybigriggerarpu::: ok?01:05
arpuhello billybigrigger01:06
arpumy current grub from jaunty ?01:07
arpuhttp://paste.railsbox.eu/show/30/01:07
arpuwait01:07
arpubillybigrigger: http://paste.railsbox.eu/show/31/01:08
arpuand i use efi (macbook)01:08
billybigriggerk01:09
billybigriggerare you using jaunty or karmic?01:09
arpui use jaunty01:10
billybigriggerbut you want to boot to karmic?01:10
arpubut i installed karmic on /dev/sda401:10
billybigriggerand when you select karmic in grub you get what...01:10
billybigriggerfile not found?01:10
arpuabd i would like to boot in karmic with the grub from jaunty01:10
arpuyes eroor 15 file not found01:11
billybigriggerk01:11
billybigriggerso you see in your menu.list...01:11
arpu:-/01:11
billybigriggertitle           Ubuntu karmic , kernel 2.6.30-8-generic01:11
billybigriggerroot            (hd0,3)01:11
arpuyes01:11
arpui tested with root and uuid01:11
billybigriggeryour kernel isnt on hd0.301:11
billybigriggerso you need to change that01:11
billybigriggerhold up01:12
billybigriggerim trying to find a good resource for you to read01:13
billybigriggeryour going to need to boot to the grub shell and find your kernel01:13
BUGabundobillybigrigger: time to write a good wiki page on grub2?01:13
billybigriggerso when you get to the list of options, press c i think01:13
billybigriggerhehe ill jot that down :P thanks BUGabundo01:13
billybigriggerthis is so much easier to just do, than to try and explain :P01:14
arpubillybigrigger:  i know this commands from grub01:14
billybigriggerk you need to get your grub shell01:15
billybigriggerare you on the computer? or is it another computer?01:15
billybigriggerhmmm01:17
arpubillybigrigger:  is this computer :-/01:17
billybigriggerfind initrd.img-2.6.30-8-generic01:18
billybigriggerthen it *should* tell you what drive its on, (hdX,X)01:18
arpusudo mount /dev/disk/by-uuid/302c1a70-dbd4-425e-b7f8-298847fb4571 /media/test/01:18
billybigriggerno, when you get to your grub shell01:18
arpu302... = (uuid) /dev/sda401:18
billybigriggergrub> find initrd.img-2.6.30-8-generic01:18
arpuahh01:18
billybigriggershould tell you what drive its on01:18
arpuok i give it a try01:19
billybigriggerhold on 1 sec haha01:19
billybigriggerim wrong01:19
billybigriggeryou need to...01:19
arpui think the path is correct01:19
billybigriggerfind /grub/stage101:20
billybigriggererr /boot/grub/stage101:20
billybigriggerthen enter root (hdX,X) for which ever disk you want to boot01:20
arpu(hd0,3) should be ok i think01:21
billybigriggerk01:21
billybigriggerwell try it01:21
billybigriggeractually that wont work01:22
billybigriggertitle           Ubuntu karmic , kernel 2.6.30-8-generic01:22
billybigriggerroot            (hd0,3)01:22
billybigriggeras it can't find it on 0,3 to begin with01:22
billybigriggerfind stage1 will tell you where your root it01:22
billybigriggers/it/is01:22
billybigriggerthen you need to change it from 0,3 to whatever01:22
billybigriggerbut my pizza's burning, give it a try and come back if it doesn't work01:23
arpuyeahh01:23
arpucu :>01:23
arputhx01:23
arpure01:28
arpubillybigrigger: (hd0,2) you see this is my jaunty installation :-/01:28
billybigriggeryeah01:42
billybigriggerahh he left01:42
* BUGabundo cd ~/caminha01:42
billybigriggerBUGabundo::: where would the grub2 wiki page go?01:43
billybigrigger?01:43
billybigriggerjust /Grub201:43
BUGabundosure why not01:43
BUGabundothen ping Colin to make it _official_01:43
BUGabundoon help.ubuntu.com01:43
BUGabundonight! o/01:43
billybigriggernight01:44
Sarvattyosaif: if you want to see if its fixed -- https://edge.launchpad.net/~sarvatt/+archive/ppa/+sourcepub/653167/+listing-archive-extra01:45
Sarvattwell as soon as it's published in a minute or two01:45
Sarvatthasn't crashed for me yet, built it about an hour ago and i was lucky to go 15 minutes before01:50
tgpraveendoes karmic's messaging indicator currently support empathy?06:40
tgpraveenalso am on jaunty and dual boot with win xp so if I upgrade now to karmic will my win xp get busted due to grub2 mess?06:41
tgpraveen??06:50
tgpraveen!empathy06:50
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about empathy06:50
tgpraveen!banshee06:51
ubottuAudio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Listen, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, Exaile, XMMS2 (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine - See also !codecs06:51
tgpraveen!banshee version06:51
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about banshee version06:51
tgpraveen!telepathy06:51
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about telepathy06:51
tgpraveen also am on jaunty and dual boot with win xp so if I upgrade now to karmic will my win xp get busted due to grub2 mess?06:52
bullgard4tgpraveen: What is the name of the DEB program package of " karmic's messaging indicator"?07:12
scizzo-bullgard4: ?07:13
tgpraveenindicator-applet07:13
tgpraveenhttp://launchpad.net/indicator-applet07:13
bullgard4tgpraveen: Thank you.07:13
tgpraveenwell no one has replied to my query so have started upgrade to karmic07:13
tgpraveenhope it goes well07:13
tgpraveen*fingers crossed*07:14
micahg1is this the place to talk about papercuts?07:25
tgpraveenmicahg1: you might07:25
AdysAnyone had any problems with pulse+vlc after upgrading?07:25
micahg1Are bugs that are already fixed supposed to be paper cuts?07:25
tgpraveenif you want to talk with other users and nbot devs07:25
tgpraveenmicahg1: no. paper cuts are bugs that have yet to be fixed07:26
micahg1ok, so bug 187313 was mistakenly marked as a papercut07:26
ubottuLaunchpad bug 187313 in iceweasel "[MASTER] right click (with button release) might activate random popup-menu-item" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18731307:26
micahg1should I just mark invalid tgpraveen?07:27
tgpraveenmicahg1: is it only confirmed or is it fixed also?07:27
micahg1fixed in ubuntu07:27
micahg1confirmed in iceweasel07:27
RichardWolfVIhello, Inkscape is segfaulting for me without notice07:27
tgpraveenmicahg1: mark as invalid07:27
micahg1and opensuse07:27
micahg1don't know why ubottu did that07:27
tgpraveenmicahg1: did what?07:27
micahg1picked the Confirmed status from a non ubuntu project07:28
micahg1tgpraveen: is this text ok? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/196830/07:30
tgpraveenmicahg1: +107:31
micahg1ok07:31
micahg1I didn't even know about this channel :)07:31
tgpraveenmicahg1: this channel is actually more geared towards users using karmic and not really for development work07:32
micahg1ok07:33
micahg1well didn't know where to go for the papercuts07:33
micahg1I knew it was associated with Karmic and looked for an appropriate channel07:33
micahg1so, karmic user support07:33
RichardWolfVI!paste07:33
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micahg1tgpraveen: is there a more appropriate channel for the papercuts?  #ubuntu-devel?07:34
tgpraveenyes07:34
micahg1ok :)07:34
micahg1will note for the future07:34
micahg1thanks for your help anyways tgpraveen07:35
tgpraveenmicahg1: you are welcome07:35
tgpraveen!07:35
Machtinhey guys..08:05
tgpraveenhey08:05
Machtini just noticed: kubuntu asks me for my luks-passphrase when i boot.. (i boot with splash screen or whatever it's called).. so when i type the passphrase.. it's displayed as ****..08:06
Machtininstead of not displaying anything.. like i know it from.. entering your root-pass for example08:06
Machtinhowever.. when i go to tty7 while booting, i can read my passphrase unencrypted08:07
Machtinjust like i would have typed it in there08:07
Machtini mean.. after entering it08:07
Machtinin my opinion, that's a security bug08:07
RAOFThat sounds pretty bad, yes.08:07
RAOFFile a bug; usplash will be the package you're after.08:07
Machtinjust ran it08:08
Machtinhope that was good?08:08
RAOFAh, no.  I meant file a bug _against_ the usplash package.08:09
RAOFRunning "ubuntu-bug -p usplash" will start doing what you should do.08:09
Machtinah, i see08:09
Machtinthanks08:09
RAOFFollow the Launchpad prompts :)08:09
Machtinuhm.. meanwhile.. should i remove "splash" from the menu.lst?08:09
RAOFThat will stop the splash screen, yes.08:10
RAOFHow long can you read your passphrase for?08:10
MachtinRAOF: can't tell..08:18
Machtini can't continue booting when i switch to ctrl+alt+f708:18
Machtinjust came to my mind that i already saw this bug once.. therefore i tried again08:19
RAOFSorry... do you switch to VT7 (with ctrl+alt+f7) and then type your passphrase?08:19
RAOFOr have you entered your passphrase and then hit ctrl+alt+f7?08:19
Machtinthe latter08:19
RAOFUbuntu should continue to boot in that case.08:20
Machtini think i didn't hit enter after entering it, though08:20
RAOFAh.  Then you'd need to go back to VT6 (I think that's where usplash goes) and hit enter :)08:20
Machtinoh, k08:21
Machtindidn't know08:21
Machtinwell, filed a bug.. which is private for now :o08:22
Machtinand now i've gotta go, need to attend a lecture..08:23
Machtinlater! and thanks!08:24
cwilluBUGabundo, opposite problem:  machines won't turn off the backlights (and will turn them back on after a delay if I xset dpms force off)10:04
BUGabundoguud day10:04
BUGabundocwillu: hi10:04
BUGabundocwillu: humm backgroud context?10:05
=== defcon is now known as ionstorm_
cwilluyou poked me about a bug yesterday10:05
BUGabundoI guess10:06
BUGabundobut that was _yesterday_10:06
cwilluand I actually had the opposite problem :p10:06
BUGabundoI can't expect me to remember :)10:06
BUGabundoahh right10:06
BUGabundothe monitor diming/power10:06
BUGabundoyes, yours was my bug too10:06
BUGabundohaven't got it on karmic yet10:07
BUGabundoget a new (or old) one now: movies/flash playing still DIM the screen10:07
BUGabundo:(10:07
christophsturmthe xorg intel driver in karmic crashes on my x200s as soon as the display is turned off.10:36
RichardWolfVIhello, Inkscape is segfaulting unexpectedly for no apparent reason10:51
BUGabundoRichardWolfVI: install the debug symbols and run it on gdb10:51
BUGabundo!debuging10:51
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about debuging10:51
BUGabundo!debug10:51
ubottuFor help debugging your program, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProcedures10:51
BUGabundoRichardWolfVI: ^^^10:51
RichardWolfVIOK, I'm updating the repos to get the debug symbols10:52
kklimondaBUGabundo: shouldn't apport jump in and send a report?10:54
BUGabundoI still think its no enabled10:55
kklimondaBUGabundo: it should be..10:55
BUGabundokklimonda: can you confirm with pitti?10:55
kklimondaBUGabundo: so it isn't enabled until later?10:59
BUGabundodon't know10:59
BUGabundoI believe it should be around A211:00
BUGabundobut maybe they are going with A3 ?11:00
BUGabundoto only get more suitable bugs?11:00
BUGabundoI have to run, so please ask pitti11:00
* BUGabundo bbl11:05
RichardWolfVI!paste11:19
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RichardWolfVIhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/196979/11:24
RichardWolfVIgot this output11:24
hateballI've got a Samsung N120 with a realtek 8192 wireless chipset that doesnt work in Karmic. Any advice where to start looking?12:44
RichardWolfVIhateball: is the wireless chipset onboard or USB?12:45
hateballRichardWolfVI: It's a netbook, and it's onboard... I get the chipset info with lspci12:46
RichardWolfVIwhat's the specific output for the device?12:46
RichardWolfVIhateball: The lspci output, I mean12:47
RichardWolfVIwith the identifier12:47
hateballRichardWolfVI: 02:00.0 Network controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. Device 8192 (rev 01)12:48
RichardWolfVIuse lspci -nn12:49
hateballRichardWolfVI: 02:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. Device [10ec:8192] (rev 01)12:49
RichardWolfVIhateball: Iguess the safest bet would be installing ndiswrapper12:52
RichardWolfVI*I guess12:52
hateballRichardWolfVI: Well yeah. I'm just wondering if I could bugreport it somewhere and there would be a native module for it :)12:53
RichardWolfVIhateball: Maybe you can request it, but it's not a bug per se12:53
hateballRichardWolfVI: True enough. I just dont know the routine around these things. ie do I join the kernel mailing list and bug them, or what?12:54
RichardWolfVII think you may just add a request in Launchpad12:55
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RichardWolfVIbut since it's a Kernel request you may join the Kernel mailing list as well12:56
hateballHmm, reading the forums suggest that it does work in 9.04 tho12:56
RichardWolfVIbe sure to install12:56
RichardWolfVIlinux-restricted-modules and linux-backports-modules12:57
hateballYeah, those packages are currently b0rked tho :D12:57
RichardWolfVIhmm?12:58
RichardWolfVIIn Karmic?12:58
hateballOh, only backports modules was... yep in karmic12:58
RichardWolfVIhateball: I got them right here :/12:59
hateballRichardWolfVI: aptitude screams and shakes it fist at me if I try grabbing it12:59
RichardWolfVIupdate again, I had the issue for a while, but it now seems solved13:00
hateballmight be my mirror isnt up to date then13:01
RichardWolfVImaybe :/13:01
RichardWolfVIOK, I have to leave, try with those packages installed.13:01
hateballhah, now it worked. I tried like 15 minutes ago13:02
hateballRichardWolfVI: alright, take care :)13:02
oldman_fontconfig-config query on karmic13:04
oldman_we seem to have clashing /etc/fonts/conf.d/45-latin.conf vs /etc/fonts/conf.d/60-latin.conf13:05
oldman_and so ~/.fonts.conf has no power to remap fonts anymore13:06
oldman_it used to override 45-latin.conf find (as its 50-user.conf) but is now overriden itself by 60-latin.conf (which similarly overrides 40-latin.conf)13:06
oldman_anyhow, i'll raise an ubuntu-bug for it13:06
oldman_fwiw https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fontconfig/+bug/38784813:15
ubottuLaunchpad bug 387848 in fontconfig "fontconfig-config 45-latin.conf and ~/.fonts.conf overriden by new 60-latin.conf" [Undecided,New]13:15
dupondjeBroadcom is the hell :( they really can't make descent drivers it seems :(14:11
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timingIs there an irc channel where I can talk to driver developers for built-in 3G modems?14:18
timingI really want to put ubuntu on my acer aspire onewith 3G14:19
timingthere is linpus on it now14:19
joaopintotiming, you could test drive the alhpa 2 live cd, and open a bug report if your card does not work14:20
RobertFHello14:41
RobertFI installed 9.10 (alpha2)...14:41
RobertFfrederic is not in the sudoers file.. the incident will be reported14:42
dupondjeread the error ?14:42
dupondjeand u know whats wrong ? :)14:43
RobertFi can't edit /etc/sudoers. The message is "frederic is not in the sudoers file"14:43
joaopintoRobertF, was tha user created by the installer ?14:43
joaopintoor was you ?14:43
RobertFjoaopinto: frederic14:43
joaopintoRobertF, was the frederic user you set during install, or was it created by you manually after the install ?14:44
RobertFjoaopinto: the user has been created during the installed14:45
joaopintoRobertF, maybe you removed yourself from the admin group ?14:45
RobertFi can't edit /etc/group & /etc/admin14:46
dupondjeRobertF: do: groups frederic14:47
RobertFdupondje: it's done.14:50
RobertFdupondje: the problem is always the same14:50
RobertFdupondje: is it a bug?14:50
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dupondjegimme output of it :)14:51
littlei use karmic, j can  i run a distro from GRUB2?14:51
dupondjelittle: and now a understandable sentence plz :)14:52
joaopintolol14:52
RobertFis it a bug?14:53
dupondjeRobertF: gimme output of groups frederic ...14:53
joaopintoRobertF, first you need to understand how  group and sudo works, please follow dupondje suggestion14:54
littlegrub2 can start any linux distro14:54
joaopintolittle, you mean, you have installed grub2 and want to start another linux distro installed on another partition ?14:55
joaopintoI remember seeing something on the release notes about that14:55
littleno , j want to play it from grub2, not from the partition, by livecd14:56
Picigrub2 is not being installed if you do an upgrade, only if you do a fresh install of Karmic14:56
littlej use already grub214:56
RobertFjoaopinto: i did it but the problem is always the same14:57
dupondjeRobertF: I need the OUTPUT14:57
dupondjeCopy / PASTE ?14:57
dupondjesome people should first do a quiz before being able to get an Alpha release :P14:58
joaopinto:P14:59
RobertFdupondje: the output is frederic is not in the sudoers file.. the incident will be reported15:00
BluesKajGood Day all15:01
joaopintoRobertF, that output of the groups command !15:01
joaopintoRobertF, I am sorry to inform you that you are not qualified to use an alpha version15:01
RobertFjoaopinto: groups frederic ==> frederic : frederic (output)15:03
dupondjeRobertF: finally, well you should be in 'admins' group to be able to use sudo15:03
dupondjeyou aren't (either because you deleted yourself or because of a bug)15:03
dupondjeboot into recover mode, get root, add frederic to admins group & enjoy15:04
aemyrUpgrade to kk worked perfectly, even grub2. mb is gigabyte p35-ds4 rev 1.0 ; bios version: F13. Thanks for a great dev. version so far15:07
RobertFdupondje: dupondje i think, it's a bug15:08
RobertFdupondje: it's not working..15:16
RobertFi added frederic in groups root:frederic or adm:frederic (the problem is the same)15:17
RobertFi'll try later.. i must to go out15:18
dupondjenoobs :(15:19
charlie-tcawe all were once15:20
dupondjetrue :p15:21
aemyr!bugs15:32
ubottuIf you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » If that fails, you can report bugs manually at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug - Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots15:32
littleis ubuntu going to be sell on netbook15:36
frandavid100hiya15:37
frandavid100do you guys know how to test empathy 2.27.3?15:40
frandavid100the newest version in the ppa seems to be .215:40
tgpraveen1frandavid100: people are working on making the15:43
tgpraveen1.3 version15:43
tgpraveen1available if you can wait a day or maybe less15:44
tgpraveen1else come on #telepathy and ask15:44
tgpraveen1to compile from git15:44
frandavid100sure, its only it said in planet ubuntu that it was available in the ppa15:44
frandavid100so I got kinda confused15:44
frandavid100I got no problem waiting15:44
frandavid100thanks :)15:44
tgpraveen1frandavid100: read that post too it seems it is incorrect15:44
frandavid100certainly15:45
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tgpraveen1anybody know if there si a ppa for gnome shell?16:12
frandavid100looked for that the other day, couldn't find any16:22
tgpraveen1yeah me too can't find it16:24
tgpraveen1darn wanted to see how it was doing16:24
tgpraveen1:-(16:24
frandavid100I guess it'll appear in karmic repos at some point16:24
frandavid100I did install it once though16:25
frandavid100it really isn't difficult16:25
frandavid100if you just wanna check it out, you could give it a shot16:25
frandavid100wow, I just realised ekiga isn't installed by default anymore16:27
tgpraveen1frandavid100: yay! I never did like ekiga.16:30
frandavid100I wanted to16:30
frandavid100but I never gave it use16:31
stormy2kHello everyone. Has anyone else problems with installing the package "sun-java6-doc"?16:49
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tgpraveen1frandavid100: so is empathy the default now?17:00
Twigathyhttp://blogs.computerworld.com/linux_2_6_30s_best_five_features <-- FS-Cache is relevent to my interests c_c17:07
rippsDoes anybody have any bluetooth issues with 2.6.30?17:14
tgpraveen1for me bluetooth has not worked since intrepid it worked on hardy though17:15
tgpraveen1and using hardy kernel+intrepid also it worked17:16
tgpraveen1:-(17:16
rippsWell, technically, I'm using jaunty, but I'm using the 2.6.30 mainline kernel, and my kensinton micro usb bluetooth dongle doesn't work with it. it works with 2.6.29 and earlier, so I was wondering if i was because I was using 2.6.30 with jaunty...17:18
yoasifcan someone please confirm this bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/frozen-bubble/+bug/38610417:40
ubottuLaunchpad bug 386104 in libsdl1.2 "[karmic] skipping audio when using libsdl1.2debian-alsa" [Undecided,New]17:40
frandavid100do you guys know if empathy has an IRC channel?17:59
tgpraveen1frandavid100: #telepathy18:00
frandavid100thanks a lot man18:09
maxbThat was a bit peculiar - gnome-screensaver didn't want to relinquish its hold, hanging with a plain black screen with a flickering mouse pointer - I had to kill it from another VT18:17
rippsSo... nobody else has any bluetooth issues with kernel 2.6.3019:48
tgpraveen1hi anybody using19:57
tgpraveen1banshee here19:57
tgpraveen1I am on 1.519:58
tgpraveen1and the context pane is grayed out19:58
tgpraveen1I want to use this any idea?19:58
tgpraveen1any body is using it properly?19:58
billybigriggerversion 1.4.3-5 in the repos20:03
billybigriggerwhere'd you get 1.5?20:03
tgpraveen1unstable ppa20:13
legodudejust upgraded to alpha2, is X slow for everyone?20:44
legodudelike most redraws are ~100x slower than jaunty20:45
legodudethis is with and without compositing enabled20:47
legodudeand my uvc cam stopped working :(20:47
legodudeoh yeah, and X is often maxing out one cpu21:08
BUGabundoboas noites21:19
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dupondjeyelp broken for everybody ?21:55
dupondje:)21:55
billybigriggerbroken as in how?21:56
billybigriggeras in won't run21:56
billybigriggerya21:56
dupondjeyep, segfaults21:56
billybigrigger:P are you filling a bug?21:56
billybigriggerill subscribe and upload my report if you have one open21:57
dupondjeIf isn't doesn't exist yet :D21:57
dupondjehttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/yelp/+bug/38211921:58
ubottuLaunchpad bug 382119 in yelp "yelp segfault" [Undecided,Invalid]21:58
dupondjealready existing :P21:58
billybigriggerk21:58
billybigriggerill append my report to it21:58
kklimondahmm... what was a procedure to get a list of packages that are newer than version in official repository?22:01
iizarianWokay vbscript is fucking gay22:04
iizarianWjavascript is more powerful than that shit22:04
iizarianWoops im sorry wrong channel window :D22:05
dupondjeapporting :P22:06
dupondjelets make launchpad goes overflow :D22:06
dupondjeto much bugs :D22:06
billybigriggerthere22:08
dupondjeadded mine also22:11
dupondjebugggyyyy :D22:11
dupondjeand after 2 weeks22:11
dupondjeaudacious-plugins is still not merged :(22:11
dupondjeffs22:11
BUGabundoiizarianW: I know it was an accident! but please try to be careful with you language!22:14
dupondjewe still have to many bugs ! :D22:16
dupondjelets hope my network driver gets fixed also :p22:16
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dupondjeBroadcom is getting pissed off :) 2 bugs in 1 week :P22:16
iizarianWBUGabundo yes i was think i was focused in on a private channel. Don't really want to blurt things out in public :/22:18
iizarianWthinking*22:18
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=== Twigaboob is now known as Twigathy
virtualdsomething got stuck, mouse clicks are ignored and i can't alt-tab22:33
virtualdhow annoying22:33
virtualdhah22:34
virtualdright clicks works though, but it's still stuck22:34
virtualdwheel doesn't work either22:35
virtualdwhat am i gonna do22:35
BUGabundovirtuald: dead compiz ?22:35
BUGabundojump to a TTY?22:35
virtualdno22:35
virtualdtty-jumping didn't work either :>22:36
virtualdtried that22:36
virtualdi mean, it didn't unstick it22:36
virtualdbut i can switch to a tty22:36
virtualdright clicks stopped working now22:36
billybigriggernotebook?22:37
virtualdnope22:37
billybigriggerrecent updates?22:38
* BUGabundo forgot to update today22:38
billybigriggerme to22:38
virtualdit's happened before22:38
virtualdbut i did update some hours ago22:38
virtualdbtw i'm running graphics drivers from the radeon-kms ppa so it might have to do with that22:39
virtualdnew gtk2 package22:40
* BUGabundo runs UM22:40
billybigriggera few new gtk packages22:40
BUGabundoyou call 110MiBs little ??22:41
DanaGmy international keybaord layout stopped working22:41
billybigriggerwho?22:41
DanaGso now I can't use international characters.22:41
BUGabundodamn... its 1/3 rd of the OS22:41
BUGabundoDanaG: lots of changes to it22:42
DanaGI22:42
BUGabundomaybe you got caught in the midle ground22:42
DanaGI'm using the xinput2 ppa, by the way.22:42
billybigriggererrrrr22:43
billybigriggersomeone want to talk a look in their syslog22:44
billybigriggerand compared to mine22:44
billybigriggerhttp://pastebin.com/f7cd270ec22:44
billybigriggermine is chalk full of these I/O errors....22:44
billybigriggerJun 16 15:43:30 cabo kernel: [410430.805537] end_request: I/O error, dev fd0, sector 022:44
billybigriggerJun 16 15:43:43 cabo kernel: [410443.013250] end_request: I/O error, dev fd0, sector 022:44
billybigriggerJun 16 15:43:55 cabo kernel: [410455.217499] end_request: I/O error, dev fd0, sector 022:44
billybigriggerevery few seconds, maybe because i don't have an fd0???22:45
* BUGabundo checking22:45
BUGabundonothing even close to that22:46
BUGabundolaptop btw22:46
billybigriggerhmm22:46
billybigrigger/dev/fd0 exists....22:46
virtualdis DeviceKit the new name for hal?22:46
billybigriggeri just don't have a floppy drive on this machine22:47
billybigriggeryes22:48
billybigrigger"hal" (which is going to be deprecated soon) to "DeviceKit-power" and "udev-extras".22:48
virtualdok22:49
virtualdwhy?22:50
billybigriggerdunno22:51
billybigrigger[   21.248543] end_request: I/O error, dev fd0, sector 022:54
billybigrigger[   33.424762] end_request: I/O error, dev fd0, sector 022:54
billybigrigger[   33.424765] Buffer I/O error on device fd0, logical block 022:54
billybigrigger[   45.601822] end_request: I/O error, dev fd0, sector 022:54
billybigriggerim getting those in my dmesg aswell22:54
billybigrigger[    2.269476] Floppy drive(s): fd0 is 1.44M22:55
billybigriggerwierd, i don't have a fdd22:55
billybigriggerhence my I/O errors :P22:55
billybigriggeris it possible to find out when a package on my system was last updated?22:57
maxbbillybigrigger: LP 38446922:57
ubottuLaunchpad bug 384469 in devicekit "constantly polls floppy drive" [Unknown,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/38446922:57
billybigriggerdevkit-disks-daemon seems to be the culprit of my problem22:57
DanaGhttp://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=10978&start=3022:57
DanaGyargh!22:57
billybigriggeryeah22:57
billybigriggerthanks maxb22:57
DanaGhttp://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=9500022:57
ubottuOpenOffice.org bug 95000 in framework "Locally saved file is opened in read only mode" [Defect,Closed: duplicate]22:57
billybigriggerpoop on OO.o22:57
BUGabundoDanaG: that's an old bug!22:58
BUGabundoI filed onejust like that 6 months ago22:58
DanaGwell, I'm getting some "insufficient user rights" issue.22:58
DanaGTrying to save to a file I know damn well I have rights to.22:58
DanaGOh, and openoffice just plain crashed, this time.22:58
DanaGfailed to run apport-collect as root... failed to copy xauth file.22:59
robin0800billybigrigger, Look atfstab and rem fd0 and blacklist .conf and add floppy driver22:59
DanaGrem fd0 andblacklist.conf?22:59
DanaGer, rather:22:59
DanaGcomment out fd0, and make a NEW modprobe.d file of some sort.22:59
DanaGlike, blacklist-floppy.conf22:59
billybigriggeroops22:59
billybigrigger:D23:00
DanaGFirefox is also telling me it has no space to write temp files.23:01
DanaGYet, / is not full.23:01
DanaGFilesystem            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on23:01
DanaG/dev/sda6             9.5G  8.5G  576M  94% /23:01
billybigriggerhow bout your home?23:01
billybigriggerafter blacklisting floppy i should run sudo update-initramfs -u23:02
billybigriggercorrect?23:02
robin0800billybigrigger, yes and first sudo depmod -ae23:04
billybigriggerwhoops :P23:04
DanaGdocument is open for writing by (unknown user)23:04
DanaGwtf?\23:04
billybigriggerrobin0800::: still getting those IO errors23:04
billybigriggercan i not avoid a reboot here somehow?23:05
robin0800billybigrigger, Reboot23:05
DanaGsudo modprobe -r floppy23:05
billybigriggerbah23:05
billybigrigger:P23:05
DanaGtry that?23:05
billybigriggerbillybigrigger@cabo:/etc/modprobe.d$ sudo modprobe -r floppy23:05
billybigriggerFATAL: Module floppy is in use.23:05
DanaGfuser -v /dev/fd023:05
billybigriggerreturns nothing sudo fuser doesn't either23:06
DanaGodd.23:06
virtualdweird, i can select text in one gnome terminal and type in the other, but not switch apps23:06
billybigriggerand floppy module is still in use23:06
virtualdi can even paste and scroll in the other gnome-terminal, but not switch tabs23:06
DanaGerror saving the document: file could not be opened.23:07
DanaGwtf?23:07
billybigriggergnome-terminal supports tabs now??!?!!?23:07
virtualdbtw, irc is in one of ther terminals23:07
virtualdbillybigrigger: since ages23:07
billybigriggeri've been using a kde term, yakuake :P23:07
virtualdok23:07
BUGabundobillybigrigger: does it since forever?23:07
* billybigrigger crosses fingers23:09
billybigriggerwell hopefully i make it back23:09
DanaGUnable to copy the user's Xauthorization file.23:09
DanaGhttp://pastebin.com/f2d46cd0023:11
DanaGthere's my /tmp23:11
DanaGoh, /tmp wasn't mounted... wtf?23:14
DanaGgreat... now it's telling me my password is WRONG.23:16
billybigriggerwhat auto-mounts raid devices on boot? every time i boot i get this error from fsck http://pastebin.com/f641085bc23:22
billybigriggeri can manually create the array no problems after i login with sudo mdadm -A /dev/md0 /dev/sda1 /dev/sdc123:23
billybigriggerand then mounting /dev/md023:23
virtualdi figure it's gksu that stuck23:24
billybigriggerthat wasn't directed towards me was it23:24
virtualdno iM talking to myself23:24
cwilluBUGabundo, do me a favour:  print preview something using 6 pages per sheet and page ordering top-to-bottom,left-to-right, and tell me if it does it top to bottom, or bottom-to-top23:24
DanaGugh, this 1280x1024 screen has so very tiny screen real estate.23:24
DanaGI'm used to my nice, big 1920x1200.23:25
cwilluDanaG, increase the dpi :p23:25
billybigriggervirtuald::: gksu? isn't that used to run GTK apps as superuser?23:25
virtualdyes23:25
BUGabundocwillu: can you serve that in two plates, please!23:25
virtualdbut i ran it from the terminal23:25
DanaG1280x1024 is a rather STUPID resolution, anyway.23:25
virtualdand pressed ctrl-z and then bg 1 to put it in the background23:25
DanaGI mean, 5:4?  wtf were they thinking?23:25
cwilluBUGabundo, you know how you can print something so that several pages fit on each sheet?23:25
billybigriggervirtuald::: so, as i said, that wasn't directed towards me was it23:25
BUGabundocwillu: I should know23:26
BUGabundoflooding gedit now23:26
BUGabundohumm gedit only goes up to 2x2 cwillu23:26
cwillutry it in evince23:27
* BUGabundo open Ubuntu Pocket book23:27
virtualdbillybigrigger: no like i said, i'm talking to myself. (or anyone interested)23:27
cwilluBUGabundo, oh, you're looking at a different buttobn23:27
cwilluand gedit doesn't give a proper print preview23:27
billybigriggervirtuald::: sorry thought you were joking :P23:27
virtuald:>23:27
BUGabundocwillu: I am?23:27
BUGabundoim looking at the one *before* printing23:28
cwilluit's a tab in the print dialog itself23:28
cwillupage setup23:28
virtualdwere does upstart put stuff that used to be in /etc/init.d/?23:29
cwilluvirtuald, /etc/events.d, but almost everything is still in /etc/init.d23:30
DanaGevent.d23:31
DanaGnot plural.  = t23:31
DanaG=P23:31
virtualdok23:31
* cwillu smacks DanaG with a stick :p23:31
* DanaG smacks cwillu with a funnoodle.23:31
BUGabundocwillu: I'm lost23:31
DanaG=P23:31
BUGabundosee no such thing23:32
BUGabundoand you are not using my nick so I'm lost in the chat too23:32
BUGabundocwillu: page setup only has format and paper size23:32
cwilluBUGabundo, when you print something, you see the page setup tab?23:32
cwilluood23:32
BUGabundocwillu: is it print setup or page setup?23:33
* kklimonda pokes BUGabundo 23:33
cwillufile | print...23:33
cwilluand then page setup23:33
BUGabundokklimonda: sorry! I said I was a lot busy23:33
* cwillu pokes BUGabundo :p23:33
BUGabundobe right with you , as soon as I close 8 other IMs23:34
kklimondaBUGabundo: you did? It sounded like "I'm waiting for pidgin to restart" ;)23:34
kklimonda:D23:34
BUGabundocwillu: ok see it23:34
DanaGdamnit, now I can't change any of my settings -- they don't change!23:34
BUGabundokklimonda: that was away long agio23:34
BUGabundocwillu: 6x6?23:34
BUGabundoerr 3x3 ?23:34
BUGabundoI can't do math23:34
BUGabundocwillu: 3x2 ?23:34
DanaGDamnit, 86 DPI... how pathetic.23:35
cwillu6 up, 3x223:35
cwilluand set the columns so you'd read it as if there were 3 columns23:35
cwillu13523:35
cwillu24623:35
BUGabundodone23:36
BUGabundotop bot, lef righ23:36
BUGabundonext cwillu?23:36
cwillufirst: does the print preview actually show that layout?23:36
* BUGabundo processing 170 pages23:37
BUGabundoerr23:37
BUGabundoits rotated23:37
BUGabundobut looks like it is :23:37
BUGabundo2 4 623:37
BUGabundo1 3 523:37
cwilluokay, next, is the first page of the file showing up in the right spot?23:37
BUGabundoneed to zoom in23:38
cwillunope23:38
cwilluthat's evince or a different viewer?23:38
BUGabundocover is on Left top corner23:38
cwilluso, upside down from what you asked it to do, basically?23:38
cwilluthat's what I'm seeing too, but only on 2x323:38
BUGabundocwillu: evidence23:40
BUGabundoyeah pages number confirm wrong order23:41
BUGabundoBUT its side ways23:41
BUGabundonot top botom view mode23:41
DanaGIf I wanted a 147 DPI desktop LCD.... I'd have to pay a total of around 700 bucks.23:41
DanaGEssentially, I'd have to buy a LAPTOP lcd and a controller card.23:41
cwilluBUGabundo, landscape is correct for that layout23:41
cwillubut the ordering is wrong23:42
BUGabundocwillu: 2 pages is ok23:42
BUGabundotesting 1623:42
BUGabundoseem okaish23:43
BUGabundocwillu: file a bug, upstream it, sub me23:43
* BUGabundo closes evidence and goes looking at kklimonda log23:43
DanaGwtf... firefox is giving me an "out of space to save .part file" error even BEFORE asking me where to save the file!23:47
cwilluDanaG, it starts the download immediately23:48
cwillulike anything else you would click on (remember that the server is already sending the content, otherwise firefox wouldn't even know yet that it's a content type that it normally downloads to disk rather than simply viewing)23:49
cwilluso unless the browser is going to make a second request to get the pieces that it dropped, it has to save them somewhere23:50
cwilluBUGabundo, looks like it just doesn't respect the layout options at all in 6up mode23:50
BUGabundocwillu: yes. bug non the less23:51
cwilluyes, but the one bug hadn't been reported, while the other bug already has two dupes :p23:52
joaopintoDanaG, doesn't firefox starts downloading in advance ?23:52
joaopintoops, cwillu already told that23:52
virtualdx and gnome suddenly accept my clicks. and the world rejoice.23:52
BUGabundocwillu: what other?23:53
BUGabundojoaopinto: it used to23:53
cwilluBUGabundo, other phrasing23:53
cwilluBUGabundo, just giving you the play by play, don't mind me :p23:53

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