[00:00] kklimonda: see why we should be in bug squad ?LOL [00:00] Just upgraded to karmic from jaunty. I'm not able to restart X anymore through ctrl alt backspace. dontzap is set to false; any idea? [00:03] Adys: could you on JJ ? [00:03] yes [00:03] have you restarted *after* using dontzap? [00:03] yeah [00:03] also I lost my system beeps :/ [00:03] ok [00:03] file a bug [00:03] two even [00:03] not working here either [00:03] but then again, the beeps I think it's a _feature_ [00:04] I rather figure out why those are happening before filing a bug :) [00:06] maybe dontzap is not updated to new X on KK ? [00:07] relogging [00:07] Adys: it is because of the new xkeyboard-config, its an intentional change. one second and i'll get you the new way DontZap is handled [00:07] oh [00:07] ok [00:08] you can map it to any button combo and enable/disable it in userspace now instead of having to change xorg.conf and restart x [00:08] sounds saner [00:08] setxkbmap -option terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp [00:08] yeah, DontZap option was a nasty hack.. [00:08] thanks a lot :) [00:08] * BUGabundo likes to hear Sarvatt speak! s/he sound so confident [00:09] might want to leave a note in the alpha release notes [00:09] kklimonda, the crash was old -- and new crashes don't seem to be placing any .crash files into /var/crash -- any ideas? [00:09] yoasif_: in terminal do [00:10] sudo force_start=1 /etc/init.d/apport restart [00:10] Sarvatt: i marked bug 387548 as a duplicate of bug 387036 [00:10] Launchpad bug 387548 in ubuntu "Could not display "computer:///"." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/387548 [00:10] Launchpad bug 387036 in gvfs "gvfsd-computer crashed with SIGSEGV in strchr()" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/387036 [00:11] yoasif_: then cat /proc/sys/kernel/core_pattern should print it: [00:11] |/usr/share/apport/apport %p %s %c [00:11] ah yeah sounds like your problem when I was looking at it [00:11] kklimonda, yeah it does [00:11] yoasif_: try now.. [00:11] kklimonda, no goo [00:11] good* [00:12] yoasif_: if it doesn't work you could try doing it old, hard way.. [00:12] Sarvatt: that's a lot of karma for some one so new to LP [00:12] good job! [00:12] Sarvatt: X dev too ? [00:12] Sarvatt: works great cheers. [00:12] yoasif_: ulimit -c 1000000000 [00:12] yoasif_: transmission [00:13] when it crashes it should leave core file in current folder.. [00:14] BUGabundo: any idea why apport doesn't work for yoasif_ ? :/ [00:14] Sarvatt: doesnt seem to last through a x zap though :) [00:14] kklimonda: I had it happen before to me [00:14] kklimonda, got a core, should i just upload it to a new bug report? [00:14] once it was the default that would not set [00:14] yoasif_: no [00:14] but he can manually fire it [00:14] yoasif_: now you need debug packages.. [00:15] yoasif_: basically https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProgramCrash [00:16] it's a checkbox option in system - preferences - keyboard - layout - layout options [00:16] kklimonda, this is ugly heh [00:16] (terminate x server keyboard shortcut I mean) [00:16] yoasif_: you could upload core and I'll do it [00:16] Sarvatt: yeah, it gets reset if i restart x the same session i set it in [00:16] that's prolly a bug [00:17] looking into some way to transition it so if dontzap is in xorg.conf it'll enable it now [00:17] kklimonda, i'll link you to the report when it's up [00:17] k [00:17] Sarvatt: I managed to fix the extremely low quality sound I had on usb headphones too. installed pavucontrol and set i/o to both digital (was set to analog) [00:18] in case anyone gets a similar problem [00:18] still didnt get my beeps back though === yoasif_ is now known as yoasif [00:18] ya actually like beeps? [00:18] Adys: digital works for you ? [00:18] Yeah [00:18] BUGabundo: sure [00:18] I can only use analog [00:19] What sound device do you use? [00:19] usb headphones, ..? [00:19] no idea how to go about routing the beep to a secondary usb sound card.. [00:19] I don't wanna route it :P [00:19] I like it as it is, crystal mb beep [00:20] Sarvatt: afaik right now you can only manage ONE usb card [00:20] the beep is a seperate alsa module in the kernel though, i dont know how it would work that way [00:21] if i'm not mistaken [00:21] alsa module? uhm [00:21] its a singletone beep why would alsa want it :P [00:21] pastebin a dmesg after plugging in the usb headphones? [00:21] its nothing to do with the headphones [00:21] I lost it completely [00:22] what is the best way to report bugs using usb sound devices (like headsets)? [00:23] Sarvatt: http://pastebin.com/d433f3fbe heres a dmesg anyway [00:24] well your beep is starting up right, getting muted somewhere along the line probably [00:25] kklimonda, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/transmission/+bug/387564 [00:25] Launchpad bug 387564 in transmission "transmission: event.c:875: timeout_next: Assertion `tv->tv_usec >= 0' failed." [Undecided,New] [00:25] # [00:25] # [00:25] [ 10.079767] usbcore: registered new interface driver snd-usb-audio [00:25] # [00:25] [ 10.467931] input: HDA Digital PCBeep as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1b.0/input/input10 [00:25] (thats your usb headphones) [00:25] yoasif: it's fixed [00:25] kklimonda, haha ok... you knew about that bug? [00:26] Sarvatt: it dies before then [00:26] had the headphones unplugged when i reinstalled, still couldnt get any [00:27] yoasif: It is http://trac.transmissionbt.com/ticket/2078, I keep track of transmission bugs. [00:28] kklimonda, thanks :) [00:28] yoasif: also bugs that raise assertion errors are ease to remember. [00:28] easy* [00:29] hehe... [00:31] Sarvatt: I got some stuff to do now; ill try to fix this later and ping back if i manage to [00:32] pace_t_zulu: are you saying the checkbox option for dontzap in the keyboard layout settings doesnt stick, or that the setxkbmap thing I said? [00:32] Sarvatt: what are you referring to? [00:32] Sarvatt: setxkbmap one [00:32] oh I'm sorry, got you mixed up with Adys [00:33] Sarvatt: no worries [00:33] ahh yeah thats intentional [00:33] why? [00:33] yoasif: don't know when new version is going to be uploaded to KK though. It may take few days. [00:34] Sarvatt: I don't see that on my Shortcut [00:34] i was just saying a temporary way you can change it, you can permenantly set it in system - preferences - keyboard - layout - layout options [00:34] ohh layout [00:34] wrong place [00:34] Oh right [00:34] kklimonda, lame, but not a huge deal... i have to file a laptop overheating bug anyway [00:34] Yeha i switched it there. i thought the terminal command would store the pref [00:34] sorry, didnt make that clear [00:36] Sarvatt: so it is the "Special Keys hadnled in a server"? [00:37] * BUGabundo feels ignored by Sarvatt :( [00:37] http://freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/XKeyboardConfig [00:46] hello [00:46] can someone help me boot in karmic alpha2 from ubuntu grub 9.04 ? [00:48] arpu: hi [00:48] arpu: that's not clear! [00:48] do you want to *upgrade* to karmic from jaunty? [00:48] or do you want to upgrade grub from v1 to v2, while running karmic? [00:49] BUGabundo: no nothing [00:49] i have my working installation on /dev/sda3 with jaunty [00:49] and now i installed kubuntu karmic on /dev/sda4 [00:50] ok [00:50] and my i changed my grub file from jaunty [00:50] to [00:51] http://paste.railsbox.eu/show/30/ [00:51] but after boot i get file not found [01:04] look in your grub config [01:04] /boot/grub/menu.lst [01:04] pastebin that [01:05] arpu::: ??? [01:05] arpu::: ok? [01:06] hello billybigrigger [01:07] my current grub from jaunty ? [01:07] http://paste.railsbox.eu/show/30/ [01:07] wait [01:08] billybigrigger: http://paste.railsbox.eu/show/31/ [01:08] and i use efi (macbook) [01:09] k [01:09] are you using jaunty or karmic? [01:10] i use jaunty [01:10] but you want to boot to karmic? [01:10] but i installed karmic on /dev/sda4 [01:10] and when you select karmic in grub you get what... [01:10] file not found? [01:10] abd i would like to boot in karmic with the grub from jaunty [01:11] yes eroor 15 file not found [01:11] k [01:11] so you see in your menu.list... [01:11] :-/ [01:11] title Ubuntu karmic , kernel 2.6.30-8-generic [01:11] root (hd0,3) [01:11] yes [01:11] i tested with root and uuid [01:11] your kernel isnt on hd0.3 [01:11] so you need to change that [01:12] hold up [01:13] im trying to find a good resource for you to read [01:13] your going to need to boot to the grub shell and find your kernel [01:13] billybigrigger: time to write a good wiki page on grub2? [01:13] so when you get to the list of options, press c i think [01:13] hehe ill jot that down :P thanks BUGabundo [01:14] this is so much easier to just do, than to try and explain :P [01:14] billybigrigger: i know this commands from grub [01:15] k you need to get your grub shell [01:15] are you on the computer? or is it another computer? [01:17] hmmm [01:17] billybigrigger: is this computer :-/ [01:18] find initrd.img-2.6.30-8-generic [01:18] then it *should* tell you what drive its on, (hdX,X) [01:18] sudo mount /dev/disk/by-uuid/302c1a70-dbd4-425e-b7f8-298847fb4571 /media/test/ [01:18] no, when you get to your grub shell [01:18] 302... = (uuid) /dev/sda4 [01:18] grub> find initrd.img-2.6.30-8-generic [01:18] ahh [01:18] should tell you what drive its on [01:19] ok i give it a try [01:19] hold on 1 sec haha [01:19] im wrong [01:19] you need to... [01:19] i think the path is correct [01:20] find /grub/stage1 [01:20] err /boot/grub/stage1 [01:20] then enter root (hdX,X) for which ever disk you want to boot [01:21] (hd0,3) should be ok i think [01:21] k [01:21] well try it [01:22] actually that wont work [01:22] title Ubuntu karmic , kernel 2.6.30-8-generic [01:22] root (hd0,3) [01:22] as it can't find it on 0,3 to begin with [01:22] find stage1 will tell you where your root it [01:22] s/it/is [01:22] then you need to change it from 0,3 to whatever [01:23] but my pizza's burning, give it a try and come back if it doesn't work [01:23] yeahh [01:23] cu :> [01:23] thx [01:28] re [01:28] billybigrigger: (hd0,2) you see this is my jaunty installation :-/ [01:42] yeah [01:42] ahh he left [01:42] * BUGabundo cd ~/caminha [01:43] BUGabundo::: where would the grub2 wiki page go? [01:43] ? [01:43] just /Grub2 [01:43] sure why not [01:43] then ping Colin to make it _official_ [01:43] on help.ubuntu.com [01:43] night! o/ [01:44] night [01:45] yosaif: if you want to see if its fixed -- https://edge.launchpad.net/~sarvatt/+archive/ppa/+sourcepub/653167/+listing-archive-extra [01:45] well as soon as it's published in a minute or two [01:50] hasn't crashed for me yet, built it about an hour ago and i was lucky to go 15 minutes before [06:40] does karmic's messaging indicator currently support empathy? [06:41] also am on jaunty and dual boot with win xp so if I upgrade now to karmic will my win xp get busted due to grub2 mess? [06:50] ?? [06:50] !empathy [06:50] Sorry, I don't know anything about empathy [06:51] !banshee [06:51] Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Listen, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, Exaile, XMMS2 (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based). Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine - See also !codecs [06:51] !banshee version [06:51] Sorry, I don't know anything about banshee version [06:51] !telepathy [06:51] Sorry, I don't know anything about telepathy [06:52] also am on jaunty and dual boot with win xp so if I upgrade now to karmic will my win xp get busted due to grub2 mess? [07:12] tgpraveen: What is the name of the DEB program package of " karmic's messaging indicator"? [07:13] bullgard4: ? [07:13] indicator-applet [07:13] http://launchpad.net/indicator-applet [07:13] tgpraveen: Thank you. [07:13] well no one has replied to my query so have started upgrade to karmic [07:13] hope it goes well [07:14] *fingers crossed* [07:25] is this the place to talk about papercuts? [07:25] micahg1: you might [07:25] Anyone had any problems with pulse+vlc after upgrading? [07:25] Are bugs that are already fixed supposed to be paper cuts? [07:25] if you want to talk with other users and nbot devs [07:26] micahg1: no. paper cuts are bugs that have yet to be fixed [07:26] ok, so bug 187313 was mistakenly marked as a papercut [07:26] Launchpad bug 187313 in iceweasel "[MASTER] right click (with button release) might activate random popup-menu-item" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/187313 [07:27] should I just mark invalid tgpraveen? [07:27] micahg1: is it only confirmed or is it fixed also? [07:27] fixed in ubuntu [07:27] confirmed in iceweasel [07:27] hello, Inkscape is segfaulting for me without notice [07:27] micahg1: mark as invalid [07:27] and opensuse [07:27] don't know why ubottu did that [07:27] micahg1: did what? [07:28] picked the Confirmed status from a non ubuntu project [07:30] tgpraveen: is this text ok? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/196830/ [07:31] micahg1: +1 [07:31] ok [07:31] I didn't even know about this channel :) [07:32] micahg1: this channel is actually more geared towards users using karmic and not really for development work [07:33] ok [07:33] well didn't know where to go for the papercuts [07:33] I knew it was associated with Karmic and looked for an appropriate channel [07:33] so, karmic user support [07:33] !paste [07:33] pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/index.php?page=add | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic [07:34] tgpraveen: is there a more appropriate channel for the papercuts? #ubuntu-devel? [07:34] yes [07:34] ok :) [07:34] will note for the future [07:35] thanks for your help anyways tgpraveen [07:35] micahg1: you are welcome [07:35] ! [08:05] hey guys.. [08:05] hey [08:06] i just noticed: kubuntu asks me for my luks-passphrase when i boot.. (i boot with splash screen or whatever it's called).. so when i type the passphrase.. it's displayed as ****.. [08:06] instead of not displaying anything.. like i know it from.. entering your root-pass for example [08:07] however.. when i go to tty7 while booting, i can read my passphrase unencrypted [08:07] just like i would have typed it in there [08:07] i mean.. after entering it [08:07] in my opinion, that's a security bug [08:07] That sounds pretty bad, yes. [08:07] File a bug; usplash will be the package you're after. [08:08] just ran it [08:08] hope that was good? [08:09] Ah, no. I meant file a bug _against_ the usplash package. [08:09] Running "ubuntu-bug -p usplash" will start doing what you should do. [08:09] ah, i see [08:09] thanks [08:09] Follow the Launchpad prompts :) [08:09] uhm.. meanwhile.. should i remove "splash" from the menu.lst? [08:10] That will stop the splash screen, yes. [08:10] How long can you read your passphrase for? [08:18] RAOF: can't tell.. [08:18] i can't continue booting when i switch to ctrl+alt+f7 [08:19] just came to my mind that i already saw this bug once.. therefore i tried again [08:19] Sorry... do you switch to VT7 (with ctrl+alt+f7) and then type your passphrase? [08:19] Or have you entered your passphrase and then hit ctrl+alt+f7? [08:19] the latter [08:20] Ubuntu should continue to boot in that case. [08:20] i think i didn't hit enter after entering it, though [08:20] Ah. Then you'd need to go back to VT6 (I think that's where usplash goes) and hit enter :) [08:21] oh, k [08:21] didn't know [08:22] well, filed a bug.. which is private for now :o [08:23] and now i've gotta go, need to attend a lecture.. [08:24] later! and thanks! [10:04] BUGabundo, opposite problem: machines won't turn off the backlights (and will turn them back on after a delay if I xset dpms force off) [10:04] guud day [10:04] cwillu: hi [10:05] cwillu: humm backgroud context? === defcon is now known as ionstorm_ [10:05] you poked me about a bug yesterday [10:06] I guess [10:06] but that was _yesterday_ [10:06] and I actually had the opposite problem :p [10:06] I can't expect me to remember :) [10:06] ahh right [10:06] the monitor diming/power [10:06] yes, yours was my bug too [10:07] haven't got it on karmic yet [10:07] get a new (or old) one now: movies/flash playing still DIM the screen [10:07] :( [10:36] the xorg intel driver in karmic crashes on my x200s as soon as the display is turned off. [10:51] hello, Inkscape is segfaulting unexpectedly for no apparent reason [10:51] RichardWolfVI: install the debug symbols and run it on gdb [10:51] !debuging [10:51] Sorry, I don't know anything about debuging [10:51] !debug [10:51] For help debugging your program, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProcedures [10:51] RichardWolfVI: ^^^ [10:52] OK, I'm updating the repos to get the debug symbols [10:54] BUGabundo: shouldn't apport jump in and send a report? [10:55] I still think its no enabled [10:55] BUGabundo: it should be.. [10:55] kklimonda: can you confirm with pitti? [10:59] BUGabundo: so it isn't enabled until later? [10:59] don't know [11:00] I believe it should be around A2 [11:00] but maybe they are going with A3 ? [11:00] to only get more suitable bugs? [11:00] I have to run, so please ask pitti [11:05] * BUGabundo bbl [11:19] !paste [11:19] pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/index.php?page=add | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic [11:24] http://paste.ubuntu.com/196979/ [11:24] got this output [12:44] I've got a Samsung N120 with a realtek 8192 wireless chipset that doesnt work in Karmic. Any advice where to start looking? [12:45] hateball: is the wireless chipset onboard or USB? [12:46] RichardWolfVI: It's a netbook, and it's onboard... I get the chipset info with lspci [12:46] what's the specific output for the device? [12:47] hateball: The lspci output, I mean [12:47] with the identifier [12:48] RichardWolfVI: 02:00.0 Network controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. Device 8192 (rev 01) [12:49] use lspci -nn [12:49] RichardWolfVI: 02:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. Device [10ec:8192] (rev 01) [12:52] hateball: Iguess the safest bet would be installing ndiswrapper [12:52] *I guess [12:53] RichardWolfVI: Well yeah. I'm just wondering if I could bugreport it somewhere and there would be a native module for it :) [12:53] hateball: Maybe you can request it, but it's not a bug per se [12:54] RichardWolfVI: True enough. I just dont know the routine around these things. ie do I join the kernel mailing list and bug them, or what? [12:55] I think you may just add a request in Launchpad === dobre_zuo is now known as monty_python [12:56] but since it's a Kernel request you may join the Kernel mailing list as well [12:56] Hmm, reading the forums suggest that it does work in 9.04 tho [12:56] be sure to install [12:57] linux-restricted-modules and linux-backports-modules [12:57] Yeah, those packages are currently b0rked tho :D [12:58] hmm? [12:58] In Karmic? [12:58] Oh, only backports modules was... yep in karmic [12:59] hateball: I got them right here :/ [12:59] RichardWolfVI: aptitude screams and shakes it fist at me if I try grabbing it [13:00] update again, I had the issue for a while, but it now seems solved [13:01] might be my mirror isnt up to date then [13:01] maybe :/ [13:01] OK, I have to leave, try with those packages installed. [13:02] hah, now it worked. I tried like 15 minutes ago [13:02] RichardWolfVI: alright, take care :) [13:04] fontconfig-config query on karmic [13:05] we seem to have clashing /etc/fonts/conf.d/45-latin.conf vs /etc/fonts/conf.d/60-latin.conf [13:06] and so ~/.fonts.conf has no power to remap fonts anymore [13:06] it used to override 45-latin.conf find (as its 50-user.conf) but is now overriden itself by 60-latin.conf (which similarly overrides 40-latin.conf) [13:06] anyhow, i'll raise an ubuntu-bug for it [13:15] fwiw https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fontconfig/+bug/387848 [13:15] Launchpad bug 387848 in fontconfig "fontconfig-config 45-latin.conf and ~/.fonts.conf overriden by new 60-latin.conf" [Undecided,New] [14:11] Broadcom is the hell :( they really can't make descent drivers it seems :( === monty_python is now known as dobre_zuo [14:18] Is there an irc channel where I can talk to driver developers for built-in 3G modems? [14:19] I really want to put ubuntu on my acer aspire onewith 3G [14:19] there is linpus on it now [14:20] timing, you could test drive the alhpa 2 live cd, and open a bug report if your card does not work [14:41] Hello [14:41] I installed 9.10 (alpha2)... [14:42] frederic is not in the sudoers file.. the incident will be reported [14:42] read the error ? [14:43] and u know whats wrong ? :) [14:43] i can't edit /etc/sudoers. The message is "frederic is not in the sudoers file" [14:43]