[00:00] <seb128> ok, that's your issue
[00:00] <seb128> use apport to report the crash
[00:00] <seb128> could be bug #387036
[00:00] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 387036 in gvfs "gvfsd-computer crashed with SIGSEGV in strchr()" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/387036
[00:03] <seb128> anyway enough work for today
[00:03] <seb128> but that's probably due to a floppy drive if that's the same bug
[00:03] <pace_t_zulu> it appears to be bug 387036
[00:03] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 387036 in gvfs "gvfsd-computer crashed with SIGSEGV in strchr()" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/387036
[00:04] <pace_t_zulu> i marked bug 387548 as a duplicate of bug 387036
[00:04] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 387548 in ubuntu "Could not display "computer:///"." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/387548
[00:04] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 387036 in gvfs "gvfsd-computer crashed with SIGSEGV in strchr()" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/387036
[00:06] <BUGabundo> enjoy your break seb
[00:06] <BUGabundo> oh he is out
[00:09] <pace_t_zulu> BUGabundo: is that bug report appropriate then?
[00:09] <pace_t_zulu> hggdh: ^
[00:09] <BUGabundo> no idea
[00:14] <hggdh> sounds correct
[00:21] <kklimonda> hggdh: can we use need-*-retrace for bugs than contain only core file and not a whole "bundle"?
[00:31] <hggdh> kklimonda, no, it will not work. Only bugs generated via apport are retraces
[00:31] <hggdh> retraced
[00:55] <micahg> what's the next hugday on?
[00:58] <BUGabundo> !hugday
[00:58] <ubot4> Factoid 'hugday' not found
[00:58] <BUGabundo> !bugday
[00:58] <ubot4> Factoid 'bugday' not found
[00:59]  * BUGabundo slaps the bot
[00:59] <micahg> !info hugday
[00:59] <ubot4> micahg: Package hugday does not exist in jaunty
[01:01] <micahg> empathy is the answer
[01:42]  * BUGabundo cd ~/caminha
[01:55] <bcurtiswx-mini> bug, that was random
[05:47] <cwillu> bcurtiswx-mini, another second and we'd probably have had sudo -s and his password :)
[05:59] <jsmidt> Is there a IRC channel that shows bugs in Ubuntu as they come in/are changed?
[05:59] <TheNo1Yeti> as they come in yes
[05:59] <TheNo1Yeti> #ubuntu-bugs-announce
[05:59] <jsmidt> TheNo1Yeti, thank you
[06:21] <jsmidt> I found a bug report with a very small description that isn't very helpful.  Is there a standard template that says "thank you... need more info X, Y and Z"?
[06:21] <jsmidt> Somewhere on the web?
[06:26] <thekorn> good morning
[06:49] <dholbach> good morning!
[07:20] <micahg1> is anyone in here involved with the papercuts prioject?
[07:39] <micahg> Can launchpad retrace Karmic coredumps?
[08:21] <mrooney> How might I figure out which spell checking library firefox and gedit are using? It seems to be different from OO.org
[08:29] <micahg> mrooney:  libhunspell
[08:35] <mrooney> micahg: that is what OO uses? gedit seems to use aspell perhaps and I'm not sure about FF
[08:35] <micahg> mrooney: apt-cache show xulrunner-1.9 :)
[08:36] <mrooney> xulrunner does spell checking?
[08:36] <micahg> in Firefox
[08:36] <mrooney> no way, fascinating
[11:05]  * BUGabundo bbl
[14:41] <pedro_> best report of the day bug 387715
[14:42] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 387715 in gnome-games "Crying icon in mines too sad " [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/387715
[14:56] <thekorn> hehe, good one
[15:03] <bddebian> Boo
[15:13] <hggdh> bdmurray, do you have an idea of how many private bugs we currently have (powers of 10 is good enough)?
[16:06] <jsmidt> what is the package name for the volume controls in Ubuntu called?  I have a bug about this and I want to know what package to assign it to.
[16:08] <charlie-tca> jsmidt: gnome-volume-manager
[16:09] <jsmidt> charlie-tca, thanks
[16:09] <charlie-tca> no problem
[16:10] <persia> Um, no.  "gnome-volume-manager" is an old system for managing disks.
[16:11] <jsmidt> persia,  do you know the new system?
[16:11] <persia> I'm looking for it now.
[16:12] <charlie-tca> well, that's what I get for looking at xfce. Sorry
[16:12] <persia> gnome-applets
[16:12] <jsmidt> persia, thanks
[16:24] <bdmurray> hggdh: total or open?
[16:25] <hggdh> bdmurray, open -- BTW, I opened a bug on the retrace hook, and subscribed you (and pitti)
[16:26] <bdmurray> hggdh: apport crashes or not
[16:29] <hggdh> heh. Sorry, apport crashes only
[16:41] <bdmurray> james_w: any idea why bug 274069 would have had a branch linked to it recently?
[16:41] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 274069 in dhcp3 "error send_packet:message too long" [Low,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/274069
[16:44] <bdmurray> james_w: the same thing happend with bug 131751
[16:44] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 131751 in consolekit "Unable to switch Virtual Terminal with C-A-F[1-6] on Intel-based new laptop" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/131751
[16:50] <bdmurray> hggdh: it shows up at http://qa.ubuntu.com/reports/launchpad-database/private-apport-crashes.html - 2055 is the answer at the moment
[16:50] <hggdh> bdmurray, thanks
[16:51] <micahg1> can LP retrace karmic crash reports yet?
[16:53] <hggdh> yes. But it is currently being updated so fast that you can get retrace failures
[16:56] <micahg1> hggdh: I saw some failures, that's why I was wondering :)
[16:57] <hggdh> :-) and today we had a truckload of new versions...
[17:21] <thekorn> bdmurray, see bug 387731 as an explaination for this new branch links
[17:21] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 387731 in malone "Too many mails on new bug-branch links for Ubuntu branches" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/387731
[17:25] <bdmurray> thekorn: thanks
[17:39] <hggdh> bdmurray, pidgin private bugs have been cleared
[17:42] <Lademord> Hey, anyone here who knows of a good java program in Ubuntu that I can hack to get my feet wet? :)
[17:44] <brettalton> Lademord: This program needs some help (http://sourceforge.net/projects/iplist/)
[17:47] <Lademord> thanks brettalton, I'll try looking at it
[17:55] <Lademord> brettalton, from what I can see it seems to be coded in C++
[17:55] <Lademord> damn, he left
[17:55] <kklimonda> Lademord: java isn't really widely spread in ubuntu
[17:56] <Lademord> kklimonda, I know. Problem is that I'm new to programming (studying it at school) and Java is the only language they want to teach us!
[17:57] <Lademord> Personally I would rather learn something such as Python, but I'm afraid to take on multiple languages at the same time
[17:59] <Lademord> (also, I need an IDE for Python. Right now I am forced to use JDeveloper for java, and I'm not that comfortable with 'raw' coding in e.g. gedit.
[18:00] <kklimonda> I know only komodo ide and wing ide - both commercial
[18:01] <kklimonda> Lademord: the only java app that need some love I can think about is eclipse but I'm afraid fixing it isn't a task for a beginner programmer..
[18:01] <kklimonda> (also eclipse is pretty nice ide ;) )
[18:07] <Lademord> I always wanted to help the apps that I use (X-Chat, emesene/empathy, banshee, picard, evolution etc.) but I take it they are not very simple to get to understand... Maybe I should try to find a pretty simple and straightforward Ubuntu app and hack away at that until I'm more skilled
[18:09] <yoasif> Lademord,  picard is probably the easiest of those apps to get into -- it's python
[18:09] <kklimonda> emesene is python too
[18:10] <yoasif> kklimonda, never used emesene
[18:10] <Lademord> picard sure needs some love.. it tends to fail at rendering when I expand albums to view tracks
[19:56] <dtchen> bdmurray: do you have a moment and a current karmic amd64 pbuilder?
[19:57] <bdmurray> dtchen: Unfortunately I don't but could set one up
[20:00] <dtchen> bdmurray: ok, it's in pursuit of bug 384683
[20:00] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 384683 in haskell-x11-xft "[karmic] FTBFS on no-change source rebuild" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/384683
[20:01] <dtchen> i've just booted into a karmic alpha 2 desktop cd, installed pbuilder and associated bits, and can still reproduce the symptom
[20:04] <dtchen> it's such a blindingly simple fix that i have no idea why it's stuck
[20:08] <dtchen> bdmurray: thanks for triaging the ubuntu-audio bugs, BTW
[20:34] <bdmurray> dtchen: by the way in preparation for the reviewers team I've been looking at bugs with recently added patches and have found some that might not fit into the process we discussed at UDS
[20:35] <dtchen> bdmurray: i imagine there are some that won't fit snugly. which ones have you encountered?
[20:35] <Lademord> What do you guys use to develop python? geany? Komodo? gedit?
[20:36] <bdmurray> dtchen: I've just started to make a list but I ran into bug 387043 and bug 387262 today
[20:36] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 387043 in osm-gps-map "[jaunty] Python bindings are still built against 2.5 rather than 2.6" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/387043
[20:36] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 387262 in sudo "pam_env's and localechooser's usage of quotes for /etc/default/locale conflicts" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/387262
[20:39] <dtchen> bdmurray: right, those could be raised in other avenues as well, e.g., ubuntu-devel{,-discuss}
[20:40] <hggdh> Lademord, you can run eclipse with pydev
[20:41] <Lademord> hggdh, I've heard a lot about Eclipse.. maybe I should try it out again
[20:42] <Lademord> but the Eclipse in the repos is obsolete, right?
[20:42] <hggdh> Lademord, it is a hog, but it works. And yes, the eclipse in the repos is sort of oldish
[21:19] <BUGabundo> boas noites
[21:42] <yofel> hey guys, could somebody tell me who I could ask for help on the state of bug 280188 ?
[21:42] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 280188 in zenity "libgtkada2-bin : trying to overwrite `/usr/bin/gdialog', which is also in package zenity" [Low,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/280188
[21:43] <yofel> the 'fix' results in libgtkada2-bin being impossible to install (at least not without removing metacity...)
[21:45] <micahg> ping hggdh
[21:54] <micahg> nevermind hggdh
[21:54] <BUGabundo> ahahha
[21:54] <BUGabundo> poor guy
[21:55] <BUGabundo> he comes late, and has nothing to do :|
[22:00] <hggdh> micahg, pong & nevermind also ;-)
[22:01] <micahg> had a Q about graphics driver bugs affecting firefox, but got a sac to answer
[23:22] <kklimonda|emp> hey
[23:22] <kklimonda> well, irc in empathy work.. but i don't see a list of users..
[23:23] <hggdh> trying empathy also...
[23:23] <hggdh> kklimonda, what is the server for the channel?
[23:24] <kklimonda> hggdh: I've just selected freenode from list
[23:24] <hggdh> hum. and the channel name?
[23:25] <kklimonda> hggdh: Room->join and #ubuntu-bugs
[23:25] <hggdh> huh? here?
[23:26] <kklimonda> hggdh: also I can't imagine myself joining 11 channels in empathy.. It would just make tabs too small to be usable.. :/
[23:26] <micahg> I hope xubuntu keeps pidgin
[23:27] <kklimonda> micahg: I think empathy is gnome dependent..
[23:27] <micahg> ok
[23:27] <hggdh> you mean like insulin-dependent?
[23:27] <micahg> because it would take 25 packages for me to install it
[23:28] <kklimonda> no wait, it doesn't..
[23:28] <kklimonda> it uses gconf though..
[23:28] <hggdh> yeah, I guess this is part of my problem... I see no option for IRC
[23:29] <kklimonda> hggdh: in account creation?
[23:29] <hggdh> yes
[23:29] <kklimonda> hggdh: have you installed telepathy-idle ?
[23:29] <hggdh> if it was not selected for auto install, no
[23:30] <kklimonda> it's in Suggests..
[23:30] <hggdh> sigh. The default install for empathy does *not* install -idle... my suggests are disabled, due to package clutter
[23:31] <kklimonda> yes, I think they will move it to recommends/depends if empathy is to replace pidgin..
[23:38] <hggdh> interesting. I added a test account to IRC, and it immediately gave network errors on my other accounts (Jabber, etc)