| zeroprog | hey guys i keep getting invalid module format and ive recompiled the kernel...turned loadable module support on...downloaded a new kernel and tried the same thing but nothing works | 01:25 |
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| zeroprog | the module is in .ko format | 01:25 |
| lifeless | zeroprog: is it for the same arch? | 01:30 |
| mjg59 | You'll get "invalid module format" if it's built for a different kernel version or configuration | 01:36 |
| mjg59 | Check dmesg for the actual error | 01:36 |
| zeroprog | hello: disagrees about version of symbol struct_module | 01:42 |
| zeroprog | and my kernel v is 2.6.28-11 and the kernel source is 2.6.28 | 01:43 |
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| TheMuso | C | 04:32 |
| zeroprog | alright on kernel.org they dont have 2.6.28.11 so what linux source can i use | 07:10 |
| apw | Keybuk, i had a conversation with the vfs union mount peeps last night and they sent me a rebase to 2.6.30 with a couple of race fixes, so i've make you a new kernel (again): https://edge.launchpad.net/~apw/+archive/green | 08:08 |
| apw | cking, you had a machine (a dell i think) which had a problem with halt and reboot which only exhibited itself when splash was enabled but i think turned out to be like reboot=b was required and we added a quirk, can you remember? | 09:20 |
| cking | apw, reboot=b forced it to work OK. Not sure about the quirk being added for the Dell Inspiron 6400 though. I cannot recall that (too much water under the bridge, or old age :-) | 09:21 |
| apw | your memory matches mine | 09:22 |
| haitao0826 | 请教大家个问题，编译内核之前要怎么配置才能在编译时把不需要的东西排除 | 09:33 |
| haitao0826 | 怎么没人说话阿？ | 09:34 |
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| amitk | haitao0826: The language of this IRC channel is English. I'm afraid most people here don't read Japanese. | 09:37 |
| haitao0826 | ok,sorry | 09:38 |
| haitao0826 | bey | 09:38 |
| smb | amitk, Its chinese | 09:38 |
| apw | google says it says "Question to ask you, how to compile the kernel before the compile-time configuration in order to rule out things that do not need no one how to speak Albanian?" | 09:38 |
| _ruben | all i saw was a bunch of ?'s ;) | 09:41 |
| smb | _ruben, Iterestingly we saw the chinese letters, but the translation is still a bit weird :) | 09:43 |
| _ruben | true ;) | 09:44 |
| amitk | smb: oh well. I thought 'tao' was more Japanese. I need to figure out how to tell Chinese, Korean and Japanese apart | 09:49 |
| ikepanhc | eh, just someone speak in chinese? | 09:50 |
| cooloney | apw, you are close | 09:52 |
| apw | cooloney, google was close :) | 09:52 |
| amitk | apw: its quite compact (chinese) to encode all that information in such few 'characters' | 09:54 |
| apw | yeah its very compact thats for sure | 09:55 |
| xivulon | apw hi, would you have some time to investigate a swapon freeze during ubuntu install? | 09:58 |
| xivulon | this happens when a swpa file is created and used within a fat fs | 09:58 |
| apw | that sounds like a bad idea :) | 09:58 |
| apw | (putting swap in fat) | 09:58 |
| apw | do you get any panic output? | 09:59 |
| xivulon | the alternative is swap at all | 09:59 |
| xivulon | davmor2 has set up a machine with ssh access | 09:59 |
| xivulon | one sec | 09:59 |
| apw | xivulon, ok, so this swap file is it directly on the fat, or inside your ext4 loopback into a file crack ? | 10:07 |
| apw | xivulon, is there a bug filed for this one? so i have somewhere to record stuff? | 10:09 |
| xivulon | directly on fat | 10:11 |
| xivulon | I guess 376120 is the same issue | 10:11 |
| xivulon | the file is in /host/ubuntu/disks/swap.disk | 10:11 |
| xivulon | where /host is the fat partition | 10:11 |
| xivulon | davmor2 should provide you with instructions to ssh in | 10:12 |
| apw | thaks | 10:13 |
| apw | thanks | 10:13 |
| xivulon | there should be a swapon and a couple of mkswap processes (from tests I assume) that cannot be killed | 10:14 |
| apw | xivulon, yeah i think i know waht this might be | 10:23 |
| apw | are we sure this bug# 376120 is the same bug or should i make a new one | 10:23 |
| apw | and get that one dupped against it should it be the same cause, its not clear from the bug | 10:24 |
| xivulon | apw I think it is the same bug, but feel free to open a new one with a more explicit title | 10:26 |
| apw | thats ok, if you are pretty sure then i am happy | 10:27 |
| apw | xivulon, if i get you a fixed kernel are you able to test it ? | 10:28 |
| davmor2 | apw: check with xivulon, but as far as I am aware wubi on windows side creates the drives and imports the cd image and then runs an automated install against that image on first run. | 10:32 |
| davmor2 | if it's a case of following instructions in this current environment I can test it. But only use little words :D I'm going to be away for a couple of hours so it would need to be after that, if that is okay | 10:33 |
| apw | davmor2, i suspect it is complex as we need to replace the kernel somewhere in here, i'll let xivulon talk to that | 10:34 |
| davmor2 | apw: np's | 10:36 |
| apw | xivulon, ? | 10:42 |
| xivulon | hi apw | 10:50 |
| apw | xivulon, hi ... i am building you some test kernels with what i believe is the fix for the issue applied | 10:51 |
| apw | will let you know when they are built and pushed, and will update the bug also | 10:51 |
| xivulon | apw thanks a lot | 10:51 |
| apw | i am assuming you will be able to wave your hands over them and see if they fix things | 10:51 |
| xivulon | hmm deployment would be complex though, as it will have no effect unless a new ISO is shipped | 10:52 |
| xivulon | although users could replace the kernel inside of windows before rebooting | 10:52 |
| apw | yeah indeed. but i am hoping you can at least frig it into a test install | 10:52 |
| apw | to at least confirm this is the right fix | 10:52 |
| apw | then we can make up some way to handle that | 10:53 |
| xivulon | no module/initrd are involved correct? | 10:53 |
| xivulon | hmm actually they are I guess | 10:54 |
| apw | its actually the fat module which is updated, so yes | 10:54 |
| xivulon | well vmlinuz/initrd is still ok | 10:54 |
| apw | you build initrds on the machine normally | 10:55 |
| xivulon | users can simply drop them into a directory, easy enough | 10:55 |
| apw | as in the installation of an updated kernel image builds an initrd them | 10:56 |
| apw | then | 10:56 |
| xivulon | the initrd must be a live CD one (with casper and lupin-casper) | 10:56 |
| apw | hrm, no idea how those get generated | 10:56 |
| xivulon | once you have the patch ready I'll see to have one built | 10:57 |
| apw | i'll let this test build run and then push up the patch and images, and you can use whichever works best for you :) | 10:58 |
| xivulon | apw thanks a lot | 11:02 |
| apw | np | 11:02 |
| cjwatson | apw: FYI I have cdimage/livecd-rootfs changes now to support using lzma compression for the live CD initramfs, once the next kernel lands; it saves 3MB so seems well worth it | 11:04 |
| apw | cjwatson, nice. the size constraint in that context more than justifies any performance risk | 11:05 |
| cjwatson | xivulon: could you make wubi try each of /casper/initrd.gz, /casper/initrd.bz2, and /casper/initrd.lz? I see that it currently hardcodes initrd.gz | 11:05 |
| cjwatson | oh, and I'd better fix ubiquity too | 11:06 |
| * apw notes cjwatson is making much work for himself | 11:06 | |
| cjwatson | oh, no, I don't need to fix ubiquity, never mind that | 11:06 |
| cjwatson | I did think about making it just initrd.img but I sort of like having the extension there | 11:07 |
| cjwatson | if it turns out to be a real hassle somewhere I'll reverse that choice | 11:07 |
| apw | yeah ... its kinda nice to know what it is, just by the name as shell can do that check nice and easy | 11:08 |
| apw | cjwatson, you might have some clever ideas on this, we have found what appears to be a kernel bug which affects the wubi installer and hangs it. the fix is likely a replacement kernel but it needs to be in a cdimage to be useful to wubi as i understand it | 11:09 |
| cjwatson | I don't have direct access to the buildds that produce the live filesystems | 11:10 |
| cjwatson | you could build updated initrd/filesystem combinations using the livecd-rootfs package though | 11:10 |
| cjwatson | xivulon: ^- | 11:10 |
| xivulon | cjwatson, sure that is easy enough | 11:12 |
| xivulon | but is that required for this jaunty update, or is it for karmic? | 11:13 |
| apw | the lzma initrd would presumably be karmic onwards | 11:14 |
| xivulon | in karmic I will try not to have an external boot dir at all and use grub2 loop module if possible | 11:14 |
| apw | sounds sexy | 11:15 |
| xivulon | will still need to edit the menu.lst (or whatever is called these days) | 11:15 |
| apw | xivulon, things in /etc/grub.d/* which then make /boot/grub/grub.cfg | 11:17 |
| cjwatson | xivulon: what apw said | 11:19 |
| * apw muses that grub2 seems to have some kind of splash/background support | 11:20 | |
| xivulon | yep, will need to edit grub.cfg directly though, but should be easy | 11:23 |
| xivulon | I will have to find partitions UUID from windows though | 11:24 |
| Keybuk | apw: weird, I can't even chroot into the union mount | 11:24 |
| Keybuk | bash just segfaults | 11:24 |
| Keybuk | in fact, now it just hangs | 11:24 |
| apw | Keybuk, poop, so thats worse | 11:25 |
| apw | which one you got? 7? | 11:25 |
| Keybuk | -8 | 11:25 |
| Keybuk | vfsunion6 | 11:25 |
| Keybuk | in fact, this looks like a very old one ;) | 11:26 |
| Keybuk | linux (2.6.30-8.10~vfsunion6) karmic; urgency=low | 11:26 |
| Keybuk | [ Andy Whitcroft ] | 11:26 |
| Keybuk | * forward port of the VFS union-mount patch set. | 11:26 |
| Keybuk | -- Andy Whitcroft < apw@canonical.com> Fri, 05 Jun 2009 11:42:53 +0100 | 11:26 |
| Keybuk | are you sure you uploaded a new one? <g> | 11:27 |
| apw | hrm | 11:27 |
| apw | yeah ... one sec | 11:27 |
| Keybuk | there's a vfsunion7 in your "staging" PPA ;) | 11:28 |
| apw | Keybuk, yeah forgot to copy it over, spanner | 11:28 |
| apw | its copying now, take that one | 11:28 |
| Keybuk | ok | 11:28 |
| apw | that was an update i got last night from val | 11:28 |
| apw | and it is meant to fix a locking issue | 11:28 |
| apw | so it might even fix what you are seeing | 11:29 |
| Keybuk | right, that sounds just like what I'm seeing ;) | 11:29 |
| apw | they are being pretty responsive so far, keen to get some testing i suspect | 11:29 |
| apw | i have tooo many ppas and no delete button, grrr | 11:30 |
| Ng | who would be a good person to pester about getting one of the kernel/ubuntu/misc/ modules updated for bug #387756 ? :) | 11:30 |
| ubot3 | Malone bug 387756 in linux "[karmic] please update tp_smapi" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/387756 | 11:30 |
| apw | isn't that tp_smapi thing the driver of questionable provenance? | 11:31 |
| Ng | apw: afaik it's been refused a merge into the vanilla kernel because the author insists on remaining anonymous | 11:32 |
| apw | right, the definition of questionable provenance | 11:33 |
| Ng | apw: but we've been shipping it for ages, so pragmatic precedent wins the day and we can update it ;) | 11:33 |
| apw | so lawyers may decide we remove it too :/ | 11:33 |
| Ng | lawyers schmawyers | 11:33 |
| apw | easy [sic] for you to say | 11:33 |
| apw | there is a blueprint for reviewing all those drivers | 11:34 |
| Ng | dammit | 11:35 |
| apw | ? | 11:35 |
| Ng | oh, do you mean reviewing as in "with a view to removing anything we can't square away legally"? or "so we can get them all spruced up and fresh"? | 11:35 |
| apw | a combination of the two, a review and decide what to do with each, with the result being either drop or update | 11:36 |
| Ng | would dropping mean entirely removing all trace from the archive, or demoting to a DKMS/modass package? | 11:36 |
| apw | removing from a kernel point of view would be 'washing hands of' | 11:37 |
| apw | i have no idea which way any particular item is going, or more specifically that item is marked RESEARCH, so its not been decided as yet | 11:37 |
| apw | added links to both bug and spec (to the other) | 11:38 |
| Ng | ta | 11:39 |
| Ng | if I were a petulant person, I'd suggest that an anonymous driver is a drop in the ocean of legal questionability that pours forth from multiverse, but I'm not, so I'll just wait quietly and hope that I don't lose the excellent tp_smapi driver ;) | 11:40 |
| apw | it is a worry that they won't tell people why they won't tell people who they are | 11:40 |
| apw | probabally means they do not have the right to release the code, as it belongs to their employer or something | 11:41 |
| Ng | yeah I've always assumed it means they or someone they know works for ibm/lenovo and obtained the specs without permission | 11:41 |
| Ng | which is clearly not cool | 11:41 |
| Ng | and balanced against that obvious legal situation is the longevity of my battery ;) | 11:42 |
| Ng | anyway, thanks for the linkage :) | 11:42 |
| lifeless | http://lkml.org/lkml/2008/11/17/355 | 11:42 |
| apw | yep, if they had simply made up a believeable name and submitted it they would have gotten by | 11:43 |
| apw | by showing they are anon and making it clear there is a _reason_ they cannot tell us | 11:43 |
| apw | they taint the code | 11:43 |
| apw | by implication | 11:43 |
| apw | and the law sadly expects you to be reasonable, and not ignore hints like that | 11:44 |
| lifeless | well they've said they are willing to show trustworthy people | 11:44 |
| lifeless | which is why I linked that particular mail | 11:44 |
| apw | no they are willing to prove they are a person | 11:44 |
| apw | not explain why they cannot tell everyone who they are | 11:44 |
| apw | which is the rub, its likely they have done something questionable | 11:45 |
| lifeless | "willing to disclose is identity to | 11:45 |
| lifeless | " | 11:45 |
| lifeless | Assuming thats a typo of 'his' | 11:45 |
| apw | that is just their identity | 11:45 |
| apw | their need to hide their identity implies something about them or their working practice | 11:45 |
| lifeless | or where they live | 11:45 |
| apw | and one has to assume the worst, or open self to pain | 11:45 |
| lifeless | well, thats clearly false. | 11:46 |
| apw | right, there is a possibility its cause they live in china or north korea or something | 11:46 |
| lifeless | everything is patented, so why do we write code at all? | 11:46 |
| apw | the law tends to be kinder if you had no way to know in advance | 11:46 |
| apw | this situation creates a reasonable expectation we s | 11:46 |
| apw | should be suspicious, that is the issue | 11:46 |
| apw | if they had called themselves something sane and we'd never known | 11:47 |
| apw | life would have been fine | 11:47 |
| Daviey | Could it not be that they work for am employeer that is competition to the Linux kernel, and no exclusive code clause in contract - but would appear bad if they were known. | 11:47 |
| lifeless | I'd be much more suspicious of someone trying to pretend they didn't want to be anonymous | 11:47 |
| lifeless | Daviey: ecactly. | 11:47 |
| apw | its pretty unusual for an employer to not have the rights to everything one produces | 11:48 |
| apw | its a standard clause in all contracts i have seen and worked under | 11:48 |
| lifeless | There are many reasons that being known as the author of that code *without it being tainted* could be problematic. | 11:48 |
| apw | yes, but the point is that the law is full of 'could reasonably expect to have assumed' type stuff in it | 11:48 |
| lifeless | apw: works in both directions. | 11:49 |
| apw | you don't get the benefit of the doubt most of the time | 11:49 |
| Daviey | apw: Well i've avoided such contracts, but if that is the case - a HUGE amount of code in the Linux stack is therefore non-free, as the authors may not have had permission to release under a free licence | 11:49 |
| apw | indeed so, and lawyers are notoriously 'assuming the worst' kind of people | 11:49 |
| apw | Daviey, not necessarily i am employed, the code belongs to my work, i am specifically allowed to contribute it | 11:49 |
| lifeless | lawyers are often extremely risk averse. You have to take that into consideration. | 11:50 |
| Daviey | yes.. because you have your employeers permisson. I would imagine that a great deal of patches are written by pure hobbyists, away from dayjob | 11:50 |
| Ng | I wonder what our relationship with lenovo is like | 11:50 |
| Ng | they don't have to do anything further than agree not to sue anyone because of us distributing a driver that makes their hardware look better | 11:51 |
| apw | in a previous job i had the right to do 'non-compete' things outside work in my own name | 11:51 |
| apw | anyhow, its not my decision to accept it into or not into mainline, they made their reasons felt, and i can understand them | 11:52 |
| lifeless | seemed rather inconclusive in the things I found, given Linus being willing to accept it :P | 11:53 |
| apw | and if he does then we get it for free and all is well | 11:53 |
| cjwatson | and http://lkml.org/lkml/2008/11/18/272 says "SuSE asked, Lenovo said no" | 12:09 |
| cjwatson | (in the same thread lifeless linked to) | 12:09 |
| Ng | one does have to wonder exactly what suse asked though | 12:19 |
| Keybuk | apw: still a segfault with vfsunion7 | 12:20 |
| Keybuk | is weird | 12:20 |
| Keybuk | it's not even a segfault, the kernel seems to kill bash | 12:20 |
| apw | hrm, well that might make sense | 12:20 |
| apw | did you get any kernel stack traces on it | 12:20 |
| apw | if not, what does strace say happened | 12:21 |
| Keybuk | strace just hangs | 12:21 |
| Keybuk | in the execve() | 12:21 |
| apw | hrm | 12:22 |
| apw | setuid perhaps? | 12:22 |
| Keybuk | just going to fire up upstart and see why it thinks bash exits ;) | 12:22 |
| apw | heh nice | 12:23 |
| apw | did you say there was nothing in dmesg at the time, most hard kills are reported | 12:24 |
| Keybuk | didn't look tbh | 12:25 |
| apw | worth checking then after it happens | 12:26 |
| Keybuk | got one | 12:27 |
| Keybuk | BUG: unable to handle kernel NULL pointer deference at (null) | 12:28 |
| apw | pastebin? | 12:28 |
| apw | ouch | 12:28 |
| apw | i'll have a look see if i can see what casues it if you paste the whole thing | 12:28 |
| apw | somewhere | 12:28 |
| Keybuk | sure | 12:28 |
| Keybuk | one moment | 12:28 |
| Keybuk | it's inside inode permission things ;) | 12:28 |
| apw | yeeks :( | 12:29 |
| * apw waits impatiently for the trace | 12:31 | |
| apw | Keybuk, poke | 12:33 |
| Keybuk | rebooting | 12:33 |
| apw | ouch | 12:33 |
| Keybuk | got stuck in kernel and wouldn't shut down :p | 12:33 |
| apw | it has that tendancy :/ | 12:33 |
| Keybuk | apw: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/197021/ | 12:36 |
| apw | eip == 0 ouch | 12:37 |
| Keybuk | useful stack trace? | 12:47 |
| apw | Keybuk, i think its valid, an trying figure it out... what was your union of? | 12:55 |
| apw | Keybuk, ?? | 13:02 |
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| apw | Keybuk, think its worth writing up what you did and sending that with the panic to val and jblunk, cc: me | 13:18 |
| Keybuk | apw: back | 14:00 |
| Keybuk | had to run David to physio | 14:00 |
| Keybuk | it was a union of the filesystem.squashfs from today's daily-live | 14:00 |
| Keybuk | and a tmpfs | 14:00 |
| Keybuk | I ran chroot /mnt /bin/bash | 14:00 |
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| apw | smb, heads up i just pushed a patch to jaunty-lrm, looks like you are working in there too | 15:23 |
| smb | apw, Thanks, though I must refresh my memory what I might do there | 15:24 |
| smb | uh oh | 15:25 |
| smb | apw, any chance you might kill that again for a sec? What version did you base on? | 15:27 |
| apw | smb, ? i fetched origin and put it on the top | 15:28 |
| smb | apw, Hm, yeah. It just looks to me I forgot to push a release | 15:28 |
| apw | smb, then force it and i'll re do it | 15:28 |
| smb | ok. thanks | 15:29 |
| smb | done | 15:29 |
| Keybuk | aww, nobody's picked up my LKML patch :'( | 15:30 |
| rtg | Keybuk: you should have sent it to a more specific audience | 15:30 |
| Keybuk | rtg: there isn't one that I can tell | 15:30 |
| Keybuk | nothing in MAINTAINERS for cn_proc or connectors in general | 15:31 |
| rtg | Keybuk: I'm can;t remember who was involved in the last round of syscall discussions, but they'd bea good starting point | 15:31 |
| Keybuk | it isn't syscall though, no? | 15:32 |
| rtg | Keybuk: not really, but its up in the process control layer. Perhaps Ingo? | 15:32 |
| apw | Keybuk, if all else fails always send it to akpm he knows everyone | 15:33 |
| Keybuk | true | 15:33 |
| Keybuk | will give it a few days ;) | 15:33 |
| Keybuk | Ingo, Andrew, Oleg, etc. tend to pick up things from LKML anyway | 15:34 |
| rtg | Keybuk: he might have missed it in the merge window storm | 15:34 |
| smb | apw, Just for info, the patch for jaunty lrm is for whch bug? | 15:34 |
| apw | BugLink: http://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/305587 | 15:35 |
| ubot3 | Malone bug 305587 in linux-restricted-modules "[Jaunty] warning: missing LSB information " [Medium,Fix committed] | 15:35 |
| rtg | apw, jjohansen: is there a reason LGUEST_GUEST isn't enabled for i386? | 15:55 |
| rtg | in karmic, that is | 15:56 |
| * apw looks | 15:56 | |
| apw | LGUEST_GUEST implies we are building a paravirtualised kernel | 15:59 |
| apw | so i'd not expect it to be on for a primary i386 kernel i don't think | 15:59 |
| apw | rtg, ^^ | 15:59 |
| rtg | apw: right, it allows the 32 bit lguest kernel to boot under an lguest hyper visor. why wouldn't we enable it? | 15:59 |
| apw | well it would depend on whether it is independant of being a real kernel at the same time | 16:00 |
| apw | i would expect it enabled in a special kernel like the server virtual flavour | 16:00 |
| rtg | apw: all of the paravirt-op stuff is dynamic anyway. | 16:01 |
| apw | i'll see if it is enableable in parallel | 16:01 |
| apw | rtg then it should be fine. note it is only non-pae so we'd only get it in the new i386_nonpae flavour | 16:01 |
| soren | LGUEST and PAE don't like each other. | 16:01 |
| soren | I forget why. | 16:01 |
| rtg | apw: I think I remember someone at UDS requested it | 16:02 |
| soren | Oh, apw already said that. | 16:02 |
| soren | Never mind me. | 16:02 |
| apw | shall i put it on the config review and spin a patch for it? | 16:02 |
| rtg | apw, soren: I'll get back to lguest in a bit. I'm currently making sure PAE works. | 16:03 |
| apw | ack | 16:03 |
| rtg | apw: wait until I have the legacy flavour implemented | 16:03 |
| apw | i was about to respin that config merge patch | 16:03 |
| apw | if you are mid flavour mangle then it should wait | 16:03 |
| apw | rtg ^^ | 16:04 |
| rtg | apw: it should be independent of the flavours, right? | 16:04 |
| apw | yeah the code change is, but there is an associated fdr updateconfigs which isn't | 16:04 |
| rtg | apw: we could do them independently since the build process would pick up the config changes anyways | 16:05 |
| rtg | i.e., just the script patch with out the config file updates | 16:05 |
| apw | yeah we can do that for sure | 16:05 |
| rtg | I can collapse them later | 16:06 |
| apw | i'll send out the patch with a sample patch for the config change so peple can see what it does | 16:06 |
| apw | but with a view to merging only the code change | 16:06 |
| rtg | right | 16:06 |
| apw | ok plan | 16:06 |
| mohan_ | hi.. i am building kernel.. | 17:04 |
| mohan_ | how to make deb file out of it? | 17:04 |
| mohan_ | hi.. any body pls help.. | 17:09 |
| rtg | mohan_: start here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/KernelMaintenance | 17:13 |
| mohan_ | rtg: ok.. thanx.. | 17:15 |
| mohan_ | rtg: fully confused .. :( | 17:18 |
| mohan_ | i am right now done with make modules.. | 17:18 |
| rtg | mohan_: then you are doing the wrong thing. see 'https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/KernelMaintenance#Normal full build' | 17:19 |
| rtg | mohan_: you must use debian commands to build the kernel | 17:19 |
| rtg | the best way is to install devscripts and run 'debuild -b' | 17:19 |
| mohan_ | hmm,.. but before it worked.. | 17:19 |
| mohan_ | i installed RT kernel before in this way.. | 17:19 |
| rtg | mohan_: you may have installed it, but you didn't build it that way | 17:20 |
| mohan_ | oh.. ok.. | 17:20 |
| mohan_ | i didn't build a deb package though.. | 17:20 |
| mohan_ | but now i want.. | 17:20 |
| mohan_ | but doing this : fakeroot debian/rules binary-generic | 17:20 |
| rtg | mohan_: then do as I've indicated. plod through the steps | 17:21 |
| mohan_ | gave error: /usr/bin/fakeroot: line 176: debian/rules: No such file or directory | 17:21 |
| mohan_ | ok sir.. | 17:21 |
| rtg | mohan_: sudo apt-get install build-essential fakeroot devscripts | 17:21 |
| mohan_ | ok.. sir.. its installing.. | 17:22 |
| mohan_ | takes one min.. | 17:22 |
| mohan_ | i have done passing menu config and make and make modules command.. | 17:23 |
| mohan_ | opened package configuration.. | 17:23 |
| rtg | mohan_: then you've made a mess. do 'git checkout -f master;git clean -f -d' | 17:23 |
| rtg | thern 'debuild -b' | 17:23 |
| mohan_ | ok.. | 17:23 |
| mohan_ | now what should i set in this package configuration? | 17:24 |
| mohan_ | no mail? | 17:24 |
| rtg | huh? | 17:24 |
| mohan_ | postfix configuration dialogue box is asking | 17:24 |
| rtg | use the default | 17:25 |
| mohan_ | ok.. | 17:25 |
| mohan_ | what does git checkout do? | 17:25 |
| rtg | mohan_: uh, you must not be using the Ubuntu git repo? | 17:26 |
| mohan_ | no.. | 17:26 |
| mohan_ | i downloaded kernel manually from kernel.org and patched RT kernel to it.. | 17:26 |
| rtg | mohan_: then go back to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/KernelMaintenance and read | 17:27 |
| jjohansen | The kernel team weekly meeting will start in #ubuntu-meeting in 5 min | 17:55 |
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| zeroprog_ | hey guys how do u check MTU size in ubuntu | 21:21 |
| dtchen | ip(8), ifconfig(8) | 21:28 |
| dtchen | (same as in other Linux distributions) | 21:28 |
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| maxb | Does anyone know if the lack of provision of a linux-image-debug package is deliberate? | 22:53 |
| maxb | Or is it just an accident of someone thinking that it's redundant now we have ddebs..... except ddebs are effectively only available for the current development release of Ubuntu | 22:54 |
| dtchen | maxb: rtg answered that some time last week | 22:59 |
| dtchen | maxb: briefly, the omission is intentional, as they can be built on the servers but result in gigantic binary packages | 23:01 |
| maxb | It would be nice to have an official comment in LP 289087 | 23:10 |
| maxb | ubot3: ? | 23:10 |
| maxb | ubot3: bug 289087 | 23:10 |
| maxb | hrm | 23:10 |
| ubot3 | Malone bug 289087 in linux "Missing linux-image-debug packages and metapackages since Intrepid" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/289087 | 23:10 |
| ubot3 | Factoid bug 289087 not found | 23:10 |
| dtchen | maxb: feel free. https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kernel-team/2009-June/005931.html | 23:12 |
| maxb | "How to build them" is not the same question as "Why are they no longer downloadable" | 23:20 |
| dtchen | maxb: a deliberate attempt to avoid bloating the archive has been raised. i actually asked this question some time ago at the most recent UDS Mtn View. | 23:22 |
| dtchen | maxb: if you feel it is necessary to have the rationale written precisely in response to why the large debug packages are unavailable from cc.archive.ubuntu.com, then by all means, go for it. | 23:23 |
| maxb | Well, I feel it necessary that the users legitimately noting that a feature present in Hardy is no longer available have some sort of explanation why that is the case. | 23:32 |
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