| Vantrax | ^.^ | 00:06 |
|---|---|---|
| Vantrax | we need to get some momentum going again | 00:07 |
| Vantrax | bodhi is it possible to set up sftp on your test server, its just easier as im doing the theme dev from a windows box | 00:07 |
| * pleia2 waves to jamesrfla | 00:17 | |
| jamesrfla | Hi pleia2 | 00:17 |
| jamesrfla | so we have a meeting in about 10min? | 00:50 |
| cprofitt | Vantrax, what did you think of the courses uploaded? Do we need to make another to guide people on how to make courses? | 00:53 |
| pleia2 | jamesrfla: yep | 00:53 |
| Vantrax | they looked pretty good | 00:53 |
| Vantrax | we just need to sort out our structure | 00:53 |
| cprofitt | 'our structure'? | 00:54 |
| Vantrax | and work out how we want to manage the four programs | 00:54 |
| cprofitt | meaning team structure? | 00:54 |
| cprofitt | or course structure? | 00:54 |
| Vantrax | course | 00:54 |
| Vantrax | we need to do team too, that is a focus of this meeting unless im just crazy | 00:54 |
| cprofitt | k | 00:55 |
| cprofitt | I think courses may have a different structure depending on the 'type' | 00:55 |
| Vantrax | very likely | 00:55 |
| cprofitt | the method of delivery and the content may require a different pedagogic structure to be successful | 00:55 |
| Vantrax | if its a background infromation one, done as self paced it will be very different to something with instructor support | 00:56 |
| cprofitt | pleia2, meeting in here or in #ubuntu-meeting? | 00:56 |
| pleia2 | well, nothing else is going on in #ubuntu-meeting | 00:56 |
| cprofitt | Vantrax, it also depends on the depth of the material | 00:56 |
| Vantrax | also it seems that moodle doesnt really allow courses to be grouped into programs | 00:56 |
| Vantrax | yep | 00:56 |
| cprofitt | Vantrax, not sure I follow you on program groupings... | 00:57 |
| Vantrax | fair enough | 00:57 |
| Vantrax | if you look at the list of topics in the programs pages on the wiki there are alot of suggestions | 00:57 |
| Vantrax | many of those group into what i would think of as a course covering similar topics | 00:58 |
| Vantrax | the total of the courses under each page would be part of a program with that target | 00:58 |
| Vantrax | target being the intention of the program to provide training to a particular target group | 00:58 |
| Vantrax | does that make any sense? | 00:59 |
| Vantrax | <- baby due in 10 weeks, not sleeping quite right | 00:59 |
| * jamesrfla is glad that I am 16 and still a student | 01:00 | |
| bodhizazen | meeting where ? | 01:00 |
| jamesrfla | bodhizazen: #ubutu-meeting | 01:00 |
| jamesrfla | I mean #ubuntu-meeting | 01:00 |
| thewrath | hey all | 01:12 |
| thewrath | im int eh meeting but i have to run to the store | 01:13 |
| jamesrfla | okay | 01:13 |
| pleia2 | I am going to be honest guys, I really don't know enough about this subject to have an informed opinion | 01:14 |
| jamesrfla | yeah what is going on in #ubuntu-meeting right now I have no clue what is going on | 01:15 |
| pleia2 | licensing is a complicated subject | 01:15 |
| jamesrfla | I am reading it but my guess is cprofitt and bodhizazen are arguing over some server privacy/property thing | 01:16 |
| jamesrfla | also Vantrax | 01:16 |
| Vantrax | lol | 01:27 |
| Vantrax | its a rather involved discussion we have had for weeks:P | 01:28 |
| Vantrax | basically we have source materials that have a non commercial lisence, but the ubuntu community uses cc-by-sa and you cant mix the two | 01:28 |
| mogain | Hellow pleia2 and gang | 01:39 |
| mogain | This is doctormo, my computer had died | 01:39 |
| pleia2 | mogain: #ubuntu-meeting | 01:39 |
| mogain | This is my netbook ;-( | 01:39 |
| pleia2 | aww | 01:39 |
| Vantrax | ahh | 01:44 |
| Vantrax | sorry mo, you missed your licensing discussion, but its going to hit up the mailing list | 01:45 |
| mogain | pleia2: Was there a thing about CC yet? | 01:45 |
| mogain | ah ok thanks | 01:45 |
| Vantrax | no decisions made, bodhi will send out an email to set the tone, and lay some ground rules | 01:45 |
| mogain | I would have preferred Vantrax or pleia2 send the email, oh well. ground rules will be about social conduct I have no doubt | 01:46 |
| pleia2 | I don't know enough about the issue, honestly | 01:47 |
| Vantrax | yes:P | 01:49 |
| Vantrax | mogain: it will be fine | 01:50 |
| Vantrax | we talked about the ground rules in the meeting already | 01:50 |
| mogain | sounds ominous | 01:50 |
| mogain | I'll have to check out the logs | 01:51 |
| === mogain is now known as doctormo | ||
| Vantrax | okies | 02:07 |
| cprofitt | bodhizazen, no offense meant on the license discussion... | 02:07 |
| Vantrax | lots to discuss which is good | 02:07 |
| bodhizazen | we need more frequent meetings | 02:08 |
| Vantrax | bodhizazen: i think we need one in two weeks | 02:08 |
| Vantrax | or even same time next week | 02:08 |
| bodhizazen | weekly woudl be god for a while | 02:08 |
| Vantrax | yeah | 02:08 |
| bodhizazen | move to bi-weekly as the structure allows | 02:08 |
| bodhizazen | we have a lot to do | 02:08 |
| bodhizazen | and a lot to discuss | 02:09 |
| * pleia2 nods | 02:09 | |
| bodhizazen | this is IMO a critical time for the team | 02:09 |
| Vantrax | bodhizazen: can you set up sftp on your test server please | 02:09 |
| cprofitt | +1 bodhizazen | 02:09 |
| bodhizazen | and so I propose frequent meetings | 02:09 |
| Vantrax | im doing the theme on a windows box | 02:09 |
| bodhizazen | Vantrax: ssh ? | 02:09 |
| bodhizazen | what is wrong with scp ? | 02:09 |
| pleia2 | winscp is lovely | 02:10 |
| cprofitt | pleia2, can you be the master of meeting scheduling... | 02:10 |
| pleia2 | cprofitt: will do! | 02:10 |
| Vantrax | ahh, good point | 02:10 |
| bodhizazen | with ssh you can winscp if you like | 02:10 |
| Vantrax | ill hit up winscp | 02:10 |
| Vantrax | ignore me... | 02:10 |
| cprofitt | get us scheduled and setup in #ubuntu-meeting and on fridge etc? | 02:10 |
| dthacker | winscp is good. | 02:10 |
| pleia2 | cprofitt: yep | 02:10 |
| jamesrfla | winscp is kick ass | 02:10 |
| Vantrax | <3 pleia2 | 02:10 |
| bodhizazen | Vantrax: I will set up server tonight | 02:10 |
| bodhizazen | I have to say | 02:10 |
| bodhizazen | I have a lot on my plate with managing back end ;) | 02:11 |
| pleia2 | oh, does someone know where mootbot spits the minutes? | 02:11 |
| dthacker | where can we get login info to see courses cprofitt has uploaded? | 02:11 |
| bodhizazen | Meeting same time next week ? | 02:11 |
| doctormo | What is this windows people keep on going on about? | 02:11 |
| Vantrax | we will have to give you some help | 02:11 |
| jamesrfla | sorry I was a bit confused in the beginning when you guys were talking about something with a server and who owns what. I was trying to finish up getting a Ubuntu server working with mailman, postfix, and apache2 | 02:11 |
| Vantrax | dthacker: you can login with openid on learn.ufbt.net | 02:11 |
| pleia2 | bodhizazen: I'll try to decide by tomorrow, I need to touch base with greg-g about when he's available and hopefully make it easier for -eu people (dougie richardson for instance) | 02:11 |
| Vantrax | just use http://launchpad...../~<username> as your string | 02:12 |
| Vantrax | pleia2: we might just do them in different times | 02:12 |
| Vantrax | so one week is easier for EU, and one week its easier for US | 02:12 |
| pleia2 | Vantrax: sure, but we want greg-g at this next meeting, and it'd be nice to have a doc person too :) | 02:12 |
| Vantrax | yes | 02:12 |
| Vantrax | ill poke dougie and rocket too | 02:13 |
| pleia2 | on the list dougie said 2 hours earlier would be ok | 02:13 |
| bodhizazen | OK | 02:13 |
| Vantrax | id also like an MOTU there | 02:13 |
| pleia2 | I think greg-g was simply not around today | 02:13 |
| bodhizazen | the other thing we can do - | 02:13 |
| bodhizazen | "focus groups" | 02:13 |
| Vantrax | since the MOTU used to have a school.. | 02:13 |
| bodhizazen | ie specific groups to work on specific issues and report back | 02:14 |
| Vantrax | bodhizazen: i dont think they are needed as such | 02:14 |
| doctormo | I appologise for being so late guys, :-( at least my laptop is now booting afterr some technical fixing. | 02:14 |
| pleia2 | their classroom sessions are "motu school" | 02:14 |
| bodhizazen | Vantrax: I doubt that | 02:14 |
| pleia2 | doctormo: broken computers :( | 02:14 |
| Vantrax | we already had teams outlined for different areas in the strategy document | 02:14 |
| Vantrax | i think we need to add testers into that tho | 02:14 |
| bodhizazen | we will likely need an "approval" team | 02:15 |
| bodhizazen | etc ... | 02:15 |
| doctormo | tnwop47Q | 02:15 |
| * dthacker needs to track down his openid | 02:15 | |
| bodhizazen | and down the line | 02:15 |
| doctormo | damn keyboard ;-) at least I just spewed my tester password | 02:15 |
| pleia2 | lol | 02:15 |
| bodhizazen | bbl :) | 02:15 |
| * dthacker looks away, as all good sysadmin's should | 02:16 | |
| Vantrax | lol | 02:16 |
| Vantrax | what password:P | 02:16 |
| doctormo | lol | 02:17 |
| Vantrax | brb | 02:17 |
| cprofitt | dthacker, I think you can create an account... | 02:19 |
| cprofitt | and we can then get you the access to the courses... | 02:20 |
| Vantrax | more or less | 02:27 |
| Vantrax | cprofitt: does moodle allow proper groups to be created, so rather than having a list of administrators on the course, have just administrators group | 02:27 |
| cprofitt | I believe so... | 02:28 |
| cprofitt | I think they already have groups... | 02:28 |
| cprofitt | admin - instructor - student | 02:28 |
| Vantrax | yeah, we need to look into that | 02:36 |
| cprofitt | I can try to review the site tonight... | 02:39 |
| cprofitt | but I am fairly confident they have groups... | 02:39 |
| cprofitt | I think your concern is if we can make groups | 02:39 |
| thewrath | wat license did we agree on | 02:40 |
| thewrath | sorry iw ent to the store and stopped by the fire hall and didnt think it would take that long | 02:40 |
| cprofitt | thewrath, the current license agreed on is CC-BY-SA | 02:40 |
| cprofitt | though the issue of discussing it is not over. | 02:40 |
| thewrath | so it will not change then cprofitt? | 02:40 |
| thewrath | ah | 02:40 |
| thewrath | what are the other ones that were in heavy discussion | 02:40 |
| cprofitt | CC-BY-SA-NC | 02:45 |
| cprofitt | and there are several issues with using NC | 02:45 |
| cprofitt | and there is also the issue of 'ownership' of courses authored | 02:45 |
| cprofitt | that bodhi brought up | 02:46 |
| jamesrfla | well GTG to sleep night all | 02:55 |
| cprofitt | back | 03:11 |
| doctormo | wb cprofitt | 03:13 |
| zhoujingrui | hi | 13:26 |
| cprofitt | bodhizazen, you here? | 17:53 |
| cprofitt | hey bodhizazen | 18:46 |
| bodhizazen | 'lo cprofit | 19:53 |
| bodhizazen | the rabbit died :( | 19:54 |
| bodhizazen | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1188782 | 19:54 |
| cprofitt | bodhizazen, ouch | 20:01 |
| cprofitt | hey DougieRichardson | 20:01 |
| DougieRichardson | hey cprofitt | 20:01 |
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