[00:06] ^.^ [00:07] we need to get some momentum going again [00:07] bodhi is it possible to set up sftp on your test server, its just easier as im doing the theme dev from a windows box [00:17] * pleia2 waves to jamesrfla [00:17] Hi pleia2 [00:50] so we have a meeting in about 10min? [00:53] Vantrax, what did you think of the courses uploaded? Do we need to make another to guide people on how to make courses? [00:53] jamesrfla: yep [00:53] they looked pretty good [00:53] we just need to sort out our structure [00:54] 'our structure'? [00:54] and work out how we want to manage the four programs [00:54] meaning team structure? [00:54] or course structure? [00:54] course [00:54] we need to do team too, that is a focus of this meeting unless im just crazy [00:55] k [00:55] I think courses may have a different structure depending on the 'type' [00:55] very likely [00:55] the method of delivery and the content may require a different pedagogic structure to be successful [00:56] if its a background infromation one, done as self paced it will be very different to something with instructor support [00:56] pleia2, meeting in here or in #ubuntu-meeting? [00:56] well, nothing else is going on in #ubuntu-meeting [00:56] Vantrax, it also depends on the depth of the material [00:56] also it seems that moodle doesnt really allow courses to be grouped into programs [00:56] yep [00:57] Vantrax, not sure I follow you on program groupings... [00:57] fair enough [00:57] if you look at the list of topics in the programs pages on the wiki there are alot of suggestions [00:58] many of those group into what i would think of as a course covering similar topics [00:58] the total of the courses under each page would be part of a program with that target [00:58] target being the intention of the program to provide training to a particular target group [00:59] does that make any sense? [00:59] <- baby due in 10 weeks, not sleeping quite right [01:00] * jamesrfla is glad that I am 16 and still a student [01:00] meeting where ? [01:00] bodhizazen: #ubutu-meeting [01:00] I mean #ubuntu-meeting [01:12] hey all [01:13] im int eh meeting but i have to run to the store [01:13] okay [01:14] I am going to be honest guys, I really don't know enough about this subject to have an informed opinion [01:15] yeah what is going on in #ubuntu-meeting right now I have no clue what is going on [01:15] licensing is a complicated subject [01:16] I am reading it but my guess is cprofitt and bodhizazen are arguing over some server privacy/property thing [01:16] also Vantrax [01:27] lol [01:28] its a rather involved discussion we have had for weeks:P [01:28] basically we have source materials that have a non commercial lisence, but the ubuntu community uses cc-by-sa and you cant mix the two [01:39] Hellow pleia2 and gang [01:39] This is doctormo, my computer had died [01:39] mogain: #ubuntu-meeting [01:39] This is my netbook ;-( [01:39] aww [01:44] ahh [01:45] sorry mo, you missed your licensing discussion, but its going to hit up the mailing list [01:45] pleia2: Was there a thing about CC yet? [01:45] ah ok thanks [01:45] no decisions made, bodhi will send out an email to set the tone, and lay some ground rules [01:46] I would have preferred Vantrax or pleia2 send the email, oh well. ground rules will be about social conduct I have no doubt [01:47] I don't know enough about the issue, honestly [01:49] yes:P [01:50] mogain: it will be fine [01:50] we talked about the ground rules in the meeting already [01:50] sounds ominous [01:51] I'll have to check out the logs === mogain is now known as doctormo [02:07] okies [02:07] bodhizazen, no offense meant on the license discussion... [02:07] lots to discuss which is good [02:08] we need more frequent meetings [02:08] bodhizazen: i think we need one in two weeks [02:08] or even same time next week [02:08] weekly woudl be god for a while [02:08] yeah [02:08] move to bi-weekly as the structure allows [02:08] we have a lot to do [02:09] and a lot to discuss [02:09] * pleia2 nods [02:09] this is IMO a critical time for the team [02:09] bodhizazen: can you set up sftp on your test server please [02:09] +1 bodhizazen [02:09] and so I propose frequent meetings [02:09] im doing the theme on a windows box [02:09] Vantrax: ssh ? [02:09] what is wrong with scp ? [02:10] winscp is lovely [02:10] pleia2, can you be the master of meeting scheduling... [02:10] cprofitt: will do! [02:10] ahh, good point [02:10] with ssh you can winscp if you like [02:10] ill hit up winscp [02:10] ignore me... [02:10] get us scheduled and setup in #ubuntu-meeting and on fridge etc? [02:10] winscp is good. [02:10] cprofitt: yep [02:10] winscp is kick ass [02:10] <3 pleia2 [02:10] Vantrax: I will set up server tonight [02:10] I have to say [02:11] I have a lot on my plate with managing back end ;) [02:11] oh, does someone know where mootbot spits the minutes? [02:11] where can we get login info to see courses cprofitt has uploaded? [02:11] Meeting same time next week ? [02:11] What is this windows people keep on going on about? [02:11] we will have to give you some help [02:11] sorry I was a bit confused in the beginning when you guys were talking about something with a server and who owns what. I was trying to finish up getting a Ubuntu server working with mailman, postfix, and apache2 [02:11] dthacker: you can login with openid on learn.ufbt.net [02:11] bodhizazen: I'll try to decide by tomorrow, I need to touch base with greg-g about when he's available and hopefully make it easier for -eu people (dougie richardson for instance) [02:12] just use http://launchpad...../~ as your string [02:12] pleia2: we might just do them in different times [02:12] so one week is easier for EU, and one week its easier for US [02:12] Vantrax: sure, but we want greg-g at this next meeting, and it'd be nice to have a doc person too :) [02:12] yes [02:13] ill poke dougie and rocket too [02:13] on the list dougie said 2 hours earlier would be ok [02:13] OK [02:13] id also like an MOTU there [02:13] I think greg-g was simply not around today [02:13] the other thing we can do - [02:13] "focus groups" [02:13] since the MOTU used to have a school.. [02:14] ie specific groups to work on specific issues and report back [02:14] bodhizazen: i dont think they are needed as such [02:14] I appologise for being so late guys, :-( at least my laptop is now booting afterr some technical fixing. [02:14] their classroom sessions are "motu school" [02:14] Vantrax: I doubt that [02:14] doctormo: broken computers :( [02:14] we already had teams outlined for different areas in the strategy document [02:14] i think we need to add testers into that tho [02:15] we will likely need an "approval" team [02:15] etc ... [02:15] tnwop47Q [02:15] * dthacker needs to track down his openid [02:15] and down the line [02:15] damn keyboard ;-) at least I just spewed my tester password [02:15] lol [02:15] bbl :) [02:16] * dthacker looks away, as all good sysadmin's should [02:16] lol [02:16] what password:P [02:17] lol [02:17] brb [02:19] dthacker, I think you can create an account... [02:20] and we can then get you the access to the courses... [02:27] more or less [02:27] cprofitt: does moodle allow proper groups to be created, so rather than having a list of administrators on the course, have just administrators group [02:28] I believe so... [02:28] I think they already have groups... [02:28] admin - instructor - student [02:36] yeah, we need to look into that [02:39] I can try to review the site tonight... [02:39] but I am fairly confident they have groups... [02:39] I think your concern is if we can make groups [02:40] wat license did we agree on [02:40] sorry iw ent to the store and stopped by the fire hall and didnt think it would take that long [02:40] thewrath, the current license agreed on is CC-BY-SA [02:40] though the issue of discussing it is not over. [02:40] so it will not change then cprofitt? [02:40] ah [02:40] what are the other ones that were in heavy discussion [02:45] CC-BY-SA-NC [02:45] and there are several issues with using NC [02:45] and there is also the issue of 'ownership' of courses authored [02:46] that bodhi brought up [02:55] well GTG to sleep night all [03:11] back [03:13] wb cprofitt [13:26] hi [17:53] bodhizazen, you here? [18:46] hey bodhizazen [19:53] 'lo cprofit [19:54] the rabbit died :( [19:54] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1188782 [20:01] bodhizazen, ouch [20:01] hey DougieRichardson [20:01] hey cprofitt