[00:00] <micahg> I had a mess after I imported my bookmarks from Delicious
[00:00] <billybigrigger> ahhh
[00:00] <billybigrigger> no, it just copy's on top of the new profile's bookmarks, with no regards to duplicate entries
[00:01] <micahg> yes, that's true
[00:05] <billybigrigger> k thanks for the help
[00:05] <micahg> no problem
[00:05] <micahg> billybigrigger: there might be an addon that dealss with duplicate bookmarks
[00:06] <micahg> but it's not supported afaik
[00:06] <micahg> *supported by us
[00:07]  * BUGabundo hears about addons and hides
[00:07] <BUGabundo> micahg: you mean supported *by* mozilla!
[00:07] <micahg> BUGabundo: by either
[00:14] <fta> asac, http://mces.blogspot.com/2009/06/if-you-see-keith-packard-say-hello.html
[00:23] <BUGabundo> fta: LOL
[00:23] <BUGabundo> " 	       	      Missing in Action?"
[00:23] <BUGabundo> Last I heard Keith was going with Chuck Norris - beating the sun on the  beach unconscious.
[00:23] <BUGabundo> ahaahahahahahahhaahahahah
[00:36] <fta> http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=10665
[00:36] <fta> grrr, the bot should parse those urls and display title like for other bts
[00:37] <BUGabundo> fta: so does that mean we are getting a lots of changes for fontconfig ?
[00:38] <fta> no, that we are *missing* a lot of changes
[00:38] <fta> that are in fedora 11 apparently
[00:39] <BUGabundo> but since that guy now can submit to debian
[00:39] <BUGabundo> we will get them by sinc
[00:47] <fta> who knows
[00:47] <fta> what is needed is a new upstream tarball, not yet another DD
[01:03] <fta> -rw-r--r-- 1 fta fta 120885392 2009-06-16 01:52 chromium-browser_3.0.189.0~svn20090615r18450.orig.tar.gz
[01:03] <fta> yeah!
[01:03] <fta> 120 MB, from >400 MB a week ago
[01:21] <asac_> good night
[01:22] <BUGabundo> hey asa
[01:22] <BUGabundo> *asac
[01:23] <fta> apparently, someone wants to repackage chromium "better"
[01:23] <fta> interesting
[01:26] <BUGabundo> ahah
[01:26] <BUGabundo> fta: Who?
[01:27] <fta> http://identi.ca/mtrausch
[01:28] <BUGabundo> well @pedrogfrancisco seems to be an opensuse user
[01:29] <BUGabundo> is that guy *only* talking to you ?
[01:29] <fta> not him, http://identi.ca/fta
[01:30] <fta> this thing is not designed to follow a discussion
[01:30] <BUGabundo> eheh
[01:31] <BUGabundo> of course not
[01:31] <BUGabundo> its called µblog. not Chat
[01:31] <fta> but you really seems to be using it as a chat. remember i told you several times?
[01:31] <fta> -s
[01:32] <BUGabundo> well if ppl ask questions, I reply
[01:32] <BUGabundo> just like I do here! and even with the same length :)
[01:32] <BUGabundo> fta: smile a bit Right Brain v Left Brain http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,22556281-661,00.html
[01:42]  * BUGabundo cd ~/caminha
[01:44] <fta> ...
[03:31] <billybigrigger> anyone alive?
[03:31] <billybigrigger> i had to start a new profile earlier today and now i can't open torrent
[03:31] <micahg> sure
[03:31] <billybigrigger> torrents
[03:31] <billybigrigger> now i looked in my preferences, applications, and see nothing for BitTorrent seed file, or .torrent
[03:31] <billybigrigger> how do i add one?
[03:32] <micahg> add the addon again
[03:32] <micahg> you can probably find the torrent in your old profile in ~/.mozilla/firefox-3.0
[03:32] <micahg> sorry
[03:32] <micahg> just firefox
[03:33] <billybigrigger> eh?
[03:33] <billybigrigger> add the addon?
[03:33] <micahg> addons.mozilla.org
[03:33] <billybigrigger> i never added an addon
[03:33] <micahg> oh
[03:34] <billybigrigger> its trying to open with Transmission, i want it to open with deluge
[03:34] <micahg> ah
[03:34] <billybigrigger> but i can't find .torrent in the Prefs/Applications
[03:34] <micahg> I think it's called TORRENT file
[03:35] <billybigrigger> either way, its not there
[03:36] <micahg> when you click on the torrent, it should ask you what it should do with it
[03:36] <micahg> choose your app
[03:36] <micahg> and tell it to save your preference
[03:36] <billybigrigger> ya deluge doesn't show up
[03:36] <micahg> ok
[03:36] <micahg> browse to /usr/bin/deluge
[03:36] <billybigrigger> everything was working fine until i changed my profile
[03:36] <billybigrigger> i know where deluge is located
[03:37] <micahg> ok
[03:37] <micahg> so click browse
[03:37] <micahg> and choose your app
[06:33] <micahg> New bugs in FF3 up to 700 :(
[07:39] <micahg> ping asac
[07:41] <micahg> possible regression in karmic?
[07:41] <micahg> bug 387088 and bug 387286
[07:41] <micahg> both crashing with Flash on Karmic with 3.0.11
[10:48] <asac> so doing nss update
[10:49] <BUGabundo> guud day
[10:50] <BUGabundo> asac: is dnsmasq supported and does it work with NM ?
[10:50] <asac> hi
[10:50] <BUGabundo> one user reporting it makes it very easy to use that to _share_ connections
[10:50] <BUGabundo> something I think NM should do
[10:51] <BUGabundo> both wind and mac make it just with just a few clicks
[10:52] <asac> BUGabundo: NM supports connection sharing
[10:52] <asac> install dnsmasq-base for that
[10:52] <asac> but do not install dnsmasq full
[10:52] <asac> which causes issues with resolvconf
[10:52] <asac> (also dont install resolvconf)
[10:56] <BUGabundo> just dnsmasq-base ?
[10:56] <BUGabundo> nice!
[10:56] <asac> yes
[10:57] <BUGabundo> why didn't you ever tell me that??
[10:57] <BUGabundo> I've mention this several times now
[10:58] <asac> really?
[10:59] <BUGabundo> yes
[10:59] <asac> i always knew that dnsmasq-base allows you to share connections
[10:59] <BUGabundo> been asking it ever since I got a 3G dongle
[10:59] <BUGabundo> spent HOURs around that
[10:59] <asac> hmm. guess its miscommunication ;)
[10:59] <BUGabundo> to the point of using Windows to share it :(
[10:59] <asac> BUGabundo: network-manager package even Recommends dnsmasq-base
[10:59] <asac> so if you just apt-ge tinstall network-manager you would get it
[11:00] <asac> (same for fresh from CD installs)
[11:00] <BUGabundo> humm same install since hardy alpha
[11:01] <BUGabundo> with all metapackages installed, afaik
[11:01] <BUGabundo> how do I share?
[11:01] <asac> yeah. at some point plain apt-get upgrade deselected recommends. so maybe thats why
[11:01] <BUGabundo> maybe its user error not package missing
[11:02] <asac> BUGabundo: create a wired connection and set it to "Shared to other computers"
[11:02] <asac> in ipv4settings
[11:02] <asac> play a bit around. it just worked for me last time i tested ;)
[11:02] <BUGabundo> DUH!
[11:03] <BUGabundo> that's it?
[11:03] <BUGabundo> ok user error
[11:03] <asac> heh. let me know
[11:03] <BUGabundo> I always though that meant hadoc or something
[11:03] <BUGabundo> like pc to pc simple connection
[11:03] <asac> for wifi you probably need adhoc or something. for wired you dont
[11:03] <BUGabundo> guess something got lost in translation
[11:04] <BUGabundo> I'll try to think on a better wording for it
[11:05] <BUGabundo> asac: thanks
[11:05] <BUGabundo> bbl
[11:06] <asac> i think even the english wording isnt good
[14:27] <fta2> asac, i've been able to shrink the chromium tarball down to 120 MB, i won't be able to go further than that i'm afraid.
[14:28] <fta2> two weeks ago, it went up to 375 MB
[14:28] <asac> fta2: last size was 190
[14:28] <asac> hmm
[14:28] <asac> so it went down from 380 to 190 then up to 375 and now 120 ;)
[14:28] <fta2> http://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/tmp/chromium-tarball.png
[14:28] <asac> at least there is a trend ;)
[14:29] <asac> thats odd. was the other size you showed me (was about 190) an experiment?
[14:29] <asac> or did i just dream about it ;)
[14:29] <fta2> yep 190 was ~2 weeks ago, 1st experiment
[14:30] <fta2> well, 2rd
[14:30] <fta2> 2nd
[14:30] <fta2> now, the 3rd is at 120 MB but it's reaching a limit
[14:32] <fta2> 563 MB unpacked
[14:32] <asac> thats quite good. but did you manage to eliminate any new third party stuff?
[14:32] <asac> or just remove binary blobs spreaded in the tree?
[14:33] <fta2> 253 MB of 3rd party, incl 100 MB of icu38 (patched) and 83 MB of webkit
[14:34] <fta2> and some more 3rd party in chrome/ (107 MB), mostly hunspell (105 MB)
[14:35] <asac> fta2: yes, what i wondered about is if you gt rid of any additional third_party to get to 120MB;)
[14:36] <asac> i mean a complete third_party tree
[14:36] <fta2> 103 MB of patched dictionaries. not sure if they are shipped, and how
[14:36] <asac> so hunspell uses system-hunspell now?
[14:36] <fta2> no
[14:36] <asac> or just dictionaries gone?
[14:36] <asac> ok
[14:36] <asac> still good
[14:36] <fta2> nope either, it's still there
[14:37] <fta2> i dropped other stuff, mostly webkit stuff
[14:37] <fta2> and ref build tests
[14:41] <fta2> well, i guess you can read the commit logs: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~chromium-team/chromium-browser/chromium-browser.head
[16:10] <asac> damn nss build crashed
[16:22] <ripps> fta2: ping
[16:38] <fta2> ripps, yes?
[16:38] <ripps> fta2: I keep getting an error when I run daily.sh mpd, and update-pkg --fix doesn't fix it.
[16:38] <ripps> http://pastebin.com/f79154974
[16:40] <fta2> ripps, did you manually touch mpd.head.ppa.jaunty ?
[16:40] <fta2> go there and bzr diff it
[16:40] <ripps> fta2: no
[16:41] <fta2> maybe you interrupted the script while it was working in that branch
[16:41] <fta2> bzr revert should fix it
[16:41] <ripps> http://pastebin.com/f1b826489
[16:42] <ripps> The weird thing is that this shouldn't be here, I already updated mpd two days ago and it was fine. There hasn't been any upstream changes since then
[16:46] <fta2> well, that diff is obviously from the bot so for some reason, it hasn't been committed. just revert, and restart, should be fine
[16:47] <fta2> hm, but it probably means the karmic branch is already committed.. bad.
[16:47] <ripps> fta2: feature request: have some way for the ppabot to know if the script was interrupted and didn't finish properly, and then give it some way to automatically clean up. Maybe something like a lock file that is created and then deleted upon completion
[16:49] <fta2> i plan to improve the error reporting somehow.. and maybe revert incomplete tasks, and die less.
[16:49] <ripps> :)
[16:49] <fta2> the problem is that the script dies for good reasons, most of the time, needing the admin attention
[16:50] <micahg1> ping asac
[17:12] <asac> micahg1: ola
[17:15] <micahg1> hi
[17:15] <micahg1> did you get my message this morning?
[17:18] <asac> micahg1: yes, let me check the bugs
[17:18] <asac> micahg1: unlikely. both look like libflashplayer is involed.
[17:18] <asac> micahg: can you reproduce the bwin crash?
[17:19] <micahg> Not on 3.5, let me test on 3.0.11
[17:19] <micahg> also, I don't have karmic
[17:20] <micahg> asac: Site no longer is up
[17:20] <asac> micahg: bwin.de is not up?
[17:20] <asac> thats a major betting site ;)
[17:21] <micahg> ah, I see
[17:21] <asac> ok unless we hear about regression from jaunty thats probably ok
[17:21] <micahg> I can';t follow the users link
[17:21] <asac> could also be driver related
[17:21] <micahg> but if I go to it without https it's ok
[17:21] <asac> ask them for the upgrade logs so we can see if drivers got updated too at the same time
[17:21] <asac> if thats the case i would either close bug or push that to driver packages
[17:21] <asac> micahg: https://www.bwin.de/
[17:21] <asac> that works for me
[17:22] <micahg> it seems to work fine
[17:22] <micahg> in jaunty
[17:22] <micahg> asac: can I just ask for apt-cache policy and the nvidia drivers?
[17:22] <micahg> or do you want to see all the logs?
[17:24] <asac> micahg: i think its /var/log/apt/term.log
[17:25] <micahg> asac: one user is using a live ced
[17:25] <micahg> cd
[18:03] <asac> micahg: is that user using livecd using nvidia or other proprietary driver
[18:10] <micahg> asac: no
[18:10] <Ro9u3oR> anyone think they can help me with syncing my google calendar with tbird
[18:11] <micahg> Ro9u3oR: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/4631
[18:19] <Ro9u3oR> what would be a example of the location of my google calendar
[18:36] <asac> Ro9u3oR: i think in google calendars options there are urls
[18:36] <asac> Ro9u3oR: usually if you use lighting extnesion it allows you just to specify the username etc.?
[18:37] <asac> isnt that right?
[19:56] <bdmurray> asac: Have you had a chance to look at bug 384120?
[20:08] <asac> bdmurray: checking
[21:19] <BUGabundo> boas noites
[21:22] <micahg> ls
[21:22] <micahg> oops
[21:23] <BUGabundo> micahg: lol
[21:24] <micahg> brb, need to reboot to test a fix for my png problem
[21:39] <micahg> ping asac
[21:52] <asac> micahg: hey
[21:52] <micahg> hi
[21:52] <micahg> so that png bugs seems to be fixed
[21:52] <micahg> I was wondering, do I add the fglrx package and mark fix released?
[21:53] <micahg> and mark FF3.5 invalid?
[21:53] <micahg> or just change ff3.5 to fglrx
[21:54] <asac> micahg: thats a matter of preference. ususually change to fglrx and fix release there. if those bugs are reported frequently keep the firefox target with invalid, so users get the dupe suggestion when filing a bug.
[21:54] <fta> asac, fyi, http://code.google.com/p/chromium/wiki/LinuxPackaging
[21:55] <asac> but both ways are valid
[21:55] <micahg> ok, I'll do the first and if we get dups, I'll do the second :)(
[22:33] <fta> asac, uh? http://launchpadlibrarian.net/28003459/buildlog_ubuntu-karmic-lpia.firefox-3.5_3.5~hg20090615r25976%2Bnobinonly-0ubuntu1~umd1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[22:33] <fta> new gtk/glib?
[22:49] <micahg> ping bdrung
[22:50] <bdrung> micahg: pong
[22:51] <micahg> thanks for catching that adblock plus thing
[22:51] <micahg> crashing is never proper behaviour
[22:52] <micahg> can I just move the adblock plus issues to that package with the new status?
[22:52] <micahg> I'm not familiar with the addon
[22:53] <micahg> I thought it was simiilar to noscript
[22:53] <bdrung> it only blocks advertisment
[22:53] <micahg> ah, ok
[22:53] <bdrung> so you will not see some pictures or popins.
[22:54] <bdrung> micahg: i assume that the bug is fixed the the karmic package, so the status should be fix released instead of invalid, if the bug reporter does not respond
[22:54] <micahg> do you mind if I just move the issues there for you to triage?
[22:55] <micahg> Should I change it now?
[22:55] <bdrung> incomplete would fit best
[22:56] <bdrung> so it depends on his answers
[22:56] <bdrung> either it is fixed or it has to be triaged
[22:57] <micahg> ok, I updated thatstatus
[23:07] <bdrung> thx
[23:08] <micahg> I think I"ll stick with what I know :)
[23:12] <asac> fta: is the GTK_PATH workaround for < karmic ?
[23:13] <fta> all i guess
[23:14] <fta> glad you're reading the diffs ;)
[23:18] <asac> fta: all i guess? your ia32libs modules link should have fixed this iirc
[23:19] <asac> fta: anyway. what i dont get are build failures for dailies as it seems
[23:19] <asac> at least you fix diverged patches without seeing any build failur ;)
[23:19] <fta> i do receive emails for build failures
[23:20] <fta> both ucd and umd
[23:20] <fta> asac, i'm not using my new ia32-libs, you said it was bad for flash or something
[23:21] <asac> fta: oh right. but its not because of modules
[23:21] <asac> its something else
[23:21] <asac> i thought it maybe was a bad general archive state when the snapshot was done
[23:22] <fta> alpha 2
[23:31] <asac> too bad that ia32 now ends up on our plate somehow
[23:32] <micahg> does it have to do with nspluginwrapper?
[23:35] <asac> more or less yes. flashplugin
[23:37] <micahg> It'll be nice when that's gone
[23:38] <asac> yeah
[23:38] <fta> asac, did you just get the ftbfs for chromium ucd3?
[23:38] <asac> karmic+1
[23:38] <asac> fta: no.. i aint get any ftbfs anymore. thats what i was trying to tell ;)
[23:38] <asac> (just my own ppa uploads)
[23:38] <fta> even umd?
[23:38] <asac> maybe launchpad was changed/fixed and now doesnt send to full team
[23:38]  * asac gets new mail
[23:38] <fta> thought you did get those earlier
[23:39] <asac> yes, i did
[23:39] <asac> i also got build failures in ubuntu-mozilla-daily
[23:39] <asac> not anymore
[23:39] <fta> http://launchpadlibrarian.net/28005308/buildlog_ubuntu-karmic-lpia.chromium-browser_3.0.189.0~svn20090616r18494-0ubuntu1~ucd3_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[23:39] <asac> unless there wasnt a build failure for a week or so
[23:39] <fta> got some almost everyday :(
[23:39] <fta> the 2 xul mostly
[23:40] <asac> pfft. everything is busted because of gtk ;)
[23:40]  * asac wonders if this is something worth waking seb up for ;)
[23:42] <asac> fta: gtk 2 is fixed btw
[23:42] <asac> didnt see that seb already uploaded a new one
[23:43] <asac> so wait for ubuntu2
[23:44] <asac> so i guess nothing to do today anymore. will probably take ~1h before gtk is available on builders ;)
[23:46] <fta> sleep 3600 && python trigger_a_rebuild_using_lp_api.py
[23:47] <asac> nice ;)
[23:51] <fta> https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gtk+2.0/2.17.2-0ubuntu2/+build/1080522
[23:51] <fta> asac, not that nice, i don't have that trigger_a_rebuild_using_lp_api.py ;)
[23:51] <asac> fta: yeah. still needs two publisher runs i would think
[23:51] <asac> at least to get on amd64
[23:51] <asac> does lp api already have a retry function?
[23:52] <fta> not sure what "Binaries awaiting acceptance" means
[23:52] <asac> fta: that measnt that its waiting for publishing or even pre-publishing
[23:52] <asac> i think amd64 would wait for binary all packages from i386 in such a state
[23:53] <asac> but then i might think that soyuz is smarter than it is ;)
[23:53] <fta> http://blog.launchpad.net/code/git-branch-imports-now-in-public-beta
[23:54] <fta> well, not new but new to me
[23:56] <asac> i want hg ;)
[23:56] <asac> also wont start moving to git imports until i feel that its stable ;)