[09:21] hey folks [09:21] does current (0.5.x) upstart provide dbus interface with methods and signals? [09:21] in ubuntu there is 0.3.9 [09:56] ppawel: yes [09:56] though not on the D-Bus system bus [09:56] it's a private D-Bus connection [09:57] hmm ok [09:57] is new version of upstart going to be compatible with 0.5 ? [09:57] no [09:58] we are looking for integrating upstart for service management in our system [09:58] we were hoping for nice D-Bus API [09:58] the next version of upstart will have that ;) [09:59] I understand, but what is the time line for next version ? [09:59] I guess Ubuntu 9.10 ? [09:59] right [09:59] i'm working fulltime on the new version right now [10:02] in what shape is it ? would you recommend using it ? [10:02] I tend to recommend using 0.3 at the moment [10:02] the new version doesn't build yet [10:02] talking of which, brb [10:07] Keybuk, is it possible to talk to upstart 0.3.9 through D-Bus then? if yes, using the same API and configuration as is in 0.5 distribution? will D-Bus API change between 0.3 and 1.0? [10:12] no, 0.3 uses a private IPC protocol [10:17] sadmac: the cn_proc setsid patch has gone to lkml for the .31 merge window [10:25] Keybuk, ok thanks for the support, looking forward to the new version, also will watch fosdem talk later today [14:57] Keybuk: I take it that's your monitoring stuff? (or at least the setsid support therein)? [15:10] yeah [15:10] sometimes I really hate D-Bus [15:10] Upstart's test suite yet again provides testing of other parts ;) [15:11] Keybuk: fun stuff [15:15] Keybuk: I'm hoping to do a second pass on that wiki page this weekend. Seems the biggest thing I'm out of sync on is creation/destruction of "instances" [23:03] Md: hi [23:04] have you seen, that most of udev-extras was moved into udev today? [23:05] The only interesting bits left in udev-extras are the keymap handling stuff. [23:18] mbiebl: this is part of the reason I am waiting to package it :-) [23:20] I just thought it was kind of ironic, that you submitted the ITP the very same day Kay moved over all the bits from udev-extras ;-) [23:20] anyways, thanks for packaging it. [23:21] Please keep me posted on the progress so we can coordinate future uploads of HAL etc [23:21] e.g. for the ACL handling [23:23] I doubt I will package a current udev before a couple of weeks, after I will finish with inn2 I first need to fix the bugs in the current one and then wait for libuuid from u-l to appear [23:24] np