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stephanehi !  how does the sound event works in xfce 4.600:23
bssshHey! I have a "?"(yes I asked google :/ with no resultes..) Can I enable thumbnailers for DESKTOP in xfce? Thunar generates them inside own window, but not on Desktop. Ie I can view the Desktop folder in Thunar - thumbnails are here, but on desktop itself - only icons.00:44
bsssh9.04 installed.00:44
knomebsssh, i suppose that's not possible on xfce 4.600:48
bssshthanks...00:48
bssshI dont understand why thou... :/00:49
bssshthanks anyway :/00:49
knomeJPohlmann can maybe answer that.00:49
JPohlmannbsssh: I'm not ... sure.00:50
JPohlmannThat'll most likely change with 4.8 though.00:50
bssshI checked thumbnailers guide in xfce.org and the thing is that they do display in thunar itself00:50
bssshbut not on desktop..00:51
bssshI searched for options in settings manager.00:51
bssshwell, thanks for your time.=)00:51
JPohlmannbsssh: Well, the desktop is not managed by thunar.00:52
JPohlmannxfdesktop is the application that does that and I suppose it's not generating thumbnails then.00:52
JPohlmannIn 4.8 we'll probably have a D-Bus service for generating thumbnails which all applications will talk to.00:52
bssshhm strange, I thought as in lxde, thunar controlls this.00:53
bssshbut I understand now.00:53
bssshthunar->xfdesktop->actual desktop00:53
bssshk, thx JP00:53
JPohlmannThunar is the file manager and xfdesktop uses the Thunar D-Bus API for some tasks.00:54
JPohlmannBut that's incomplete and I'm planning to improve the API in 4.8 so that xfdesktop will be more consistent with Thunar.00:54
bsssh:) thanks a lot!00:55
Sinatracan anybody help me set up my webcam on ubuntu?01:13
knomewhat's the problem?01:13
Sinatrai would like to set one up but i'm not sure what a good program for it is01:14
Sinatraon windows i found something called yawcam that shows my webcam on a website hosted through my ip address01:15
knomeright, so you want to broadcast it to internet?01:15
knomeor use with skype/instant messaging?01:15
Sinatrahttp://98.225.141.136:808101:15
knomeanyway, the first step is to get it recognised and working.01:15
Sinatraclick that link for example01:15
knomeokay01:16
knomeso have you plugged the cam in the xubuntu pc?01:16
Sinatrasomething like that but i would like it to work on ubuntu01:16
Sinatraright now i'm on XP01:16
knomeoh right01:16
Sinatrai have regular ubuntu loaded this computer though01:16
knomewhat's your camera model?01:16
knomeno problem.01:16
Sinatralogitech quickpro 6000 i think?01:16
knomeokay, let's see01:16
Sinatrathe only problem with this one is that it's too fuzzy like01:17
knomeSinatra, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCamerasLogitech for exact compatibility01:18
knomei don't see quickpro 6000 there, but it might use the same driver as some other quickcam model01:19
Sinatrai might have the model number wrong01:19
Sinatrai had it working on skype once01:19
knomeon ubuntu?01:20
Sinatrayeah01:20
Sinatrathe hardware works01:20
knomeoh, right, so you only need an app01:20
knomei see01:20
Sinatrabut i just need to know of a software program ... to allow me to broadcst on the internet01:20
* knome browses the web a bit01:20
SinatraMake a video stream01:21
SinatraIf you have the Apache Web server installed on your machine, you can use the webcam to make a video stream and display it on a Web page. The easiest way to accomplish this is by using webcam-server. In Ubuntu you can install the application with sudo apt-get install webcam-server. Start up the server with the binary name of the utility and point your browser to http://localhost:8888 to configure it.01:21
SinatraWebcam-server has some options you can use to change the display mode of the stream and offer your visitors some additional info. For example, you can display the date, frame rate, and number of viewers by using webcam-server -c "%d/%m/%Y %H:%M:%S - serving %%v viewers at %%f FPS". You can make webcam-server listen on another port if the default 8888 doesn't suit you by using the -p attribute. Among other things, you can flip the disp01:21
knomeright... that sounds something that might work :)01:22
Sinatratoo much work to get set u though?01:22
knomewell, if you don't need apache for anything else, it sounds a bit overkill.01:23
Sinatrammm so should i look for other options?01:24
knomei'm not sure what kind of alternatives there are01:25
knomejust trying to find out01:25
Sinatrahow complicated would it be to set up apache then?01:25
knomeit's not very complicated i would say01:26
knome!apache01:26
ubottuLAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)01:26
knomeyou don't need mysql or php if you only host the webcam stream01:26
Sinatrain stupid people language how complicated would it be?01:27
knomeyou might also be ok with some other web server, but i don't know how the webcam-server works01:27
knomeinstall a package.01:27
knome;)01:28
knomei suppose any web server is okay.01:28
knomeit might be better to confirm that at #ubuntu01:29
Sinatrai got someone coming in here from there hopefully01:29
Sinatrahey what'sup01:30
Proceduredhi01:30
SinatraKnome is helping me out with this webcam thing ... he is saying something about a webserver01:31
SinatraMake a video stream01:31
SinatraIf you have the Apache Web server installed on your machine, you can use the webcam to make a video stream and display it on a Web page. The easiest way to accomplish this is by using webcam-server. In Ubuntu you can install the application with sudo apt-get install webcam-server. Start up the server with the binary name of the utility and point your browser to http://localhost:8888 to configure it.01:31
SinatraWebcam-server has some options you can use to change the display mode of the stream and offer your visitors some additional info. For example, you can display the date, frame rate, and number of viewers by using webcam-server -c "%d/%m/%Y %H:%M:%S - serving %%v viewers at %%f FPS". You can make webcam-server listen on another port if the default 8888 doesn't suit you by using the -p attribute. Among other things, you can flip the disp01:31
Proceduredif u get kicked come back:p01:31
knomeSinatra, please paste long text clips at pastebin01:31
knome!pastebin01:32
ubottupastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/index.php?page=add | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic01:32
Sinatrathank you, i am sorry.01:32
Proceduredso kind of like a podcast/videocast is what you are looking for>?01:32
knomenp:)01:32
Sinatrai am doing it on XP right now: http://98.225.141.136:808101:33
Sinatrai would like to set up that feature on linux however01:33
Proceduredi see , hmm i really dont kknow ill look around for a few minutes and try and come up with othe ideas as well01:34
Sinatrawhat do you think of the webserver idea?01:35
knomeSinatra, i think you should just try the package webcam-server and see what comes.01:35
Sinatrawhere can i download that from?01:35
knomeSinatra, i'm not sure if it has a server built-in or how it works, but it will tell you :)01:35
knomeSinatra, 'sudo apt-get install webcam-server' or from synaptic search for 'webcam-server', select and install01:36
Sinatraalright i need to get this computer rebooted into ubuntu ...01:36
Sinatralet me get to my desktop01:36
sinatra-okay here01:38
Proceduredopen a terminal01:38
sinatra-i am rebooting right now01:38
Proceduredah k01:39
sinatra-another thing i was thinking ... was ... about a solidstate/flash memory harddrive01:39
sinatra-i was thinking of using it just exclusively for the operating system ... so it would boot up flash then use a traditional hard drive for storage needs01:39
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Proceduredshould work , responsive, more reliable (maybe)01:40
Sinatrathey are very very expensive though01:41
Sinatraokay i'm on linux with a terminal open01:42
Sinatrawhat's my sudo code thing01:42
Procedured<knome> Sinatra, 'sudo apt-get install webcam-server' or from synaptic search for 'webcam-server', select and install01:42
Sinatraokay great01:43
Sinatrait's giving me unable to fetch some archives01:43
Sinatramaybe run apt-get update or try with -- fix missing01:44
Sinatragreat now my screen is very very bright01:47
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sml1226I did an apt-get install kubuntu-desktop and decided to remove it. How do I remove the apps now?02:54
sml1226remove kubuntu-desktop only removes the gui not the apps02:55
sml1226teeny 10GB space won't let me do much here. Need to free up some space.02:56
sml1226is there a way to back up my UI settings without actually making a total backup of the whole system?03:03
sml1226Just my settings?03:04
yodz-Heyall, was wondering if anyone was able to tell me a fix for this wierd mouse lockup bug, cant select/alt tab from task to task when it happens.03:37
yodz-Happens after a random period of time, its like something doesnt let go of the mouse/keyboard events.03:49
yodz-Verified its not hardware as well.03:50
Kasm279how do i switch to a different soundcard?03:56
Kasm279(i.e. one in a USB dock)03:57
maduseropen mixer03:57
maduserthen there is a menu to chose sound card03:57
Kasm279ok03:58
Kasm279did nothing03:58
maduserdo you have sound at all?'03:58
Kasm279from my laptop's speakers03:59
Kasm279(its headphone out is broke, so im trying to get sound through the dock)03:59
maduserthen what do you want to change?03:59
maduseroh04:00
Kasm279so it outputs to that instead of the internal speakers04:00
Kasm279(cause they kinda suck :\)04:00
maduserthen I don't know what to tell you04:01
Kasm279anyone else?04:07
Kasm279HELLO04:38
yodz-anyone have any ideas about my question yet?04:53
TheSheepKasm279: please don't play with ctcp04:54
Kasm279k04:54
Kasm279how do i switch to a different soundcard? (in a USB dock)04:56
Kasm279yodz-: im wondering the same thing >.>04:56
codyI need help05:09
codymy whole comp is messing up05:09
codyim getting "E: Malformed line 1 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/pidgin-ppa.list (dist parse) "05:09
TheSheephmm... why don't you remove that line form it?05:10
Kasm279from*05:10
codysorry im a noob05:10
codyhow would I do that?05:10
TheSheephow did you get it in there in the first place?05:11
codyI didnt05:11
codythe comp was fine when I turned it off a week ago05:11
codyI just turned it on now05:11
TheSheepppa's are not installed by default, the whole idea is that they are experimental05:11
Kasm279how can i switch to a USB soundcard quickly and back to my laptop's internal one?05:12
codyand its having truble05:12
cody*troble05:12
cody*trouble05:12
codyummm its pidgin05:12
codywhich is a program that was there when I got xubuntu05:13
TheSheepcody: well, open a terminal, type 'gksu mousepad /etc/apt/sources.list.d/pidgin-ppa.list' and look for the suspicious line05:13
TheSheepthen comment it out by placing a # in front and save05:13
TheSheepprograms usually don't break themselves, and don't install experimental stuff05:14
codythat fixed it05:15
codyI think the problem might be that the program is at a newer version05:15
codywould that cause a problem?05:16
TheSheepwell, xubuntu is released once every 6 months with a set of applications that aretested together and checked. if you replace one of them, the whole is not tested anymored...05:17
TheSheepanymore*05:17
codyI didnt replace anything05:17
codywhich is why im so confused05:18
TheSheepyou added an additional source of applications, an ppa which is experimental05:18
Kasm279how can i switch to a USB soundcard quickly and back to my laptop's internal one?05:18
TheSheepin this case a ppa for pidging05:18
TheSheeppidgin05:18
TheSheepsorry about the typos05:18
codybut pidgin came with xubuntu05:19
TheSheepspecific version of pidgin that was tested with xubuntu, yes05:20
codyI didnt update05:20
Kasm279pidgin came with xubuntu o_O?05:20
TheSheepsomeone did05:20
codyI was asking if the problem was because I didnt update05:20
TheSheepKasm279: yes05:20
TheSheepcody: no, someone added an experimental version to your application sources05:21
Kasm279it didnt come with mine O.O05:21
TheSheepcody: and probably did it wrong, thatn's why it complained about that line05:21
codyI see05:21
TheSheepKasm279: it's there since 8.4 or even earlier05:21
Kasm279okay, mine had xchat05:22
codynext question05:22
TheSheepcody: the error wasn't in fact related to pidgin itself, just to how it was wrongly added05:22
codyhow do I fix pidgin?05:22
codyI see05:22
TheSheepcody: it's broken now?05:22
Kasm279(note: i did sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop    under kubuntu)05:22
codypidgin is only showing msn and IRC people05:22
codyits been like that since I turned it on05:23
TheSheepcody: go to system->synaptic package manager, search for pidgin in it and do a reinstall05:23
TheSheepthat should bring back the older version05:23
TheSheepthe one originally shipped with xubuntu05:24
Kasm279how can i switch to a USB soundcard quickly and back to my laptop's internal one?05:24
TheSheep!repeat | Kasm27905:24
ubottuKasm279: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can  search  https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org while you wait.05:24
codythanks for the help05:28
codyoi05:29
codythat didnt help05:29
binskipy2uis xfce/xubuntu that much more faster, stabler, less resource footprint then gnome/ubuntu, kde kubuntu? on say a triple core 64bit machine with 4 gigs ram?07:05
tavastibinskipy2u, on such machine difference in resource consumption in marginal07:11
seeezzhello first i had ubuntu and there i could configure VPN connections. with xubuntu not so i installed openvpn from the terminal. i thought that now i can configure it through network manager but i cannot. does anyone know what to do next, or another easy method? thanks!09:46
SlonkieDid you go to the network manager -> VPN -> Add -> and then choose openvpn?09:47
seeezzi cannot click on "add" because ..it is not possible to click there09:48
seeezzno wait please09:48
seeezzi cannot press "add" it is not possible09:50
seeezzdo you know the command to start the open vpn from console?09:50
SlonkieNo, sorry.09:50
seeezzthere are soi many options. when i normally download from the repository i can make it start by just ztyping the name of the program. or it is then in the menu of the xubuntu. but thank you Slonkie, i`ll continue readin09:52
seeezzp.s: if anyone has the muse for guiding me a bit through this topic, i would appreciate it09:56
Harlekien#xubuntu/motd09:58
Harlekien#xubunt/motd09:58
SiDiHarlekien: ?09:59
tavastiseeezz, what you are trying to do with openvpn?09:59
SiDiseeezz: what application were you using on ubuntu to connect to VPN servers ? Cause you can keep using the same09:59
Harlekiensorry, i am new to irc and trying to see the documentationen10:00
seeezztavasti: i want to connect to my job10:01
tavastido you have config file from you work?10:02
megloHarlekien: the /motd command just shows you the server's motd, it isn't really useful. To see the topic type /topic. You either learn IRC by using it, reading a guide, or the RFCs.10:02
seeezzSiDi : i was just right clicking the network symbol on the corner right up and then i went to add vpn connection10:02
Harlekienmeglo: thank you10:02
seeezztavasti:i think i only have "keys" files10:03
megloHarlekien: all commands for your IRC client are prefixed with a forward slash. as in "/command"10:03
tavastiwhat vpn they are using there?10:03
seeezzbut now i want to download the openvpn from the website of them, maybe it will work then10:03
Harlekienam i correct in this channel for thing about xubuntu?10:04
tavastiopenvpn binary included in ubuntu works fine, but you need config file10:04
SlonkieHarlekien, yes this is the xubuntu help channel.10:05
megloHarlekien: not exactly, but there are better places probably. I don't know of any, really. I only know how to use IRC after years of learning bits and pieces.10:05
tavastiopenvpn --config /etc/openvpn/my_config.conf10:05
seeezztavasti, i am using xubuntu, but i think it doesnt make a difference right?  tavasti: i think they use openVpn10:05
megloBecause I was lazy. I did read the RFCs when setting up an actual server this one time.10:05
tavastiseeezz, xubuntu is ubuntu with xfce10:06
seeezzok tavasti: when i am in this config file, what do i have to type in there?10:06
tavastiIMHO, this openvpn discussion is more for general #ubuntu channel10:06
tavastiseeezz, look few lines back10:06
megloI think he was using nm-applet to do his vpn before.10:06
seeezzoh, ok10:06
megloseeezz: you switched from ubuntu to xubuntu?10:06
seeezzok thks dudes10:06
megloWhat version of ubuntu were you running and what version of xubuntu are you running now?10:07
seeezzyes, because i got a notebook and read xubuntu workd more qzuick10:07
seeezzi ran 8.10 with upgrade to 9.0410:07
megloseeezz: Ok, but can you tell me the versions(hardy, intrepid, gutsy, etc) for them?10:07
megloseeezz: on Ubuntu? Or Xubuntu on your notebook?10:07
megloErrr,10:07
megloDid you reinstall with a newer xubuntu?10:08
megloseeezz: can you right click your little network icon in the system tray, click 'about', and tell me the version of it?10:08
seeezzno i used an old computer that is almost dead with ubuntu. now i bought a new notebook and ther is vista on it. but i am already used to ubuntu and so i did a Wubi installation of xubuntu10:09
seeezzmeglo: ok just a sec10:09
megloI haven't dealt with openvpn/ipsec but it seems you were able to get it working easily before, so something simple should be able to be done to get it working once more.10:09
Harlekienok people, i am going offline. see you this evening.10:09
megloHarlekien: you can use /away10:09
megloHarlekien: /away reason10:09
seeezzNetzwerk-Manager-Applet 0.7.0.10010:09
Harlekienmeglo: thanks!10:10
megloNo problem.10:10
megloseeezz: and you were using that network systemtray icon to connect to your VPN in ubuntu?10:10
seeezzyes, if ubuntu and xubuntu is the same it must have been the same but i am not 100percent sure.10:12
megloseeezz: do you see an 'unlock' button anywhere when you open it up? In newer ubuntu versions(and xubuntu) they let you view information from things like network-manager applet without having to type in your password, but provide you with an 'unlock' button if you need to do something, like configure VPN for example10:12
seeezzi think tavasti already told me what to do a few line above but i have to try this stuff slowly. i am a bit overloaded. i cannot see an unlock button(in the network manager?)10:14
megloah I haven't used the latest 0.7 version which you have10:14
megloBut I do have it here, it is a little different10:14
megloI'm not exactly sure what you see.10:14
megloseeezz: can you left click on the network manager icon, and then click "vpn connections"10:15
megloclick on it like an icon10:15
seeezzlet me try to do this config file tavasti mentioned10:15
meglommmmmmmm ok10:15
seeezzok i am clicking10:15
seeezzno wait10:15
meglodo you see...10:15
meglo?10:15
seeezztry to help me10:15
meglono sure10:16
megloI'm not sure what you're doing exactly, on my network-manager-applet10:16
megloit lets me left click on it, go to 'vpn connections' and then click on 'configure vpn'10:16
meglooh same here10:16
seeezzmeglo: when i do this and ewant to add a vpn, the field "add" is greyed out10:16
megloit isn't lettting me click add10:16
megloyes10:16
megloseeezz: same problem10:16
seeezzoh funny10:16
meglook ok10:17
meglohmmm10:17
seeezztavasti sayed i have to create a config filke10:17
megloyou don't see an unlock button eh?10:17
megloare you on wireless or a wired connection10:17
seeezzno do you?10:17
megloseeezz: I do not.10:17
seeezzi am on umts10:17
meglook mobile10:17
megloclick on 'Mobile Broadband'10:17
meglodo you see your network interface there?10:17
seeezzoh yes!!10:18
seeezzhows that? haha!"10:18
megloyes10:18
megloclick 'edit'10:18
seeezzah no thats normal sorry10:18
seeezzeh?10:18
megloit should prompt you to type your pass10:18
seeezzokj i do10:18
meglodamn10:18
meglook, it is still grayed out for me10:18
seeezzhmz10:18
megloI thought it would, after having us type the pass, allow us to configure VPN10:19
meglolet me see10:19
seeezzthnaks:)10:19
megloseeezz: I'm inexperienced with VPNs, I have never touched or used one.10:20
megloBut Ubuntu's wiki has some information on it that should be very similar to xubuntu: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VPN10:20
megloBecause xubuntu is just ubuntu, and basically has all the same configuration programs(namely nm-applet in this case) as mainline Ubuntu10:21
seeezzok, but you are very helpful. i will make it i am sure. and afterwards a bit smarter10:21
megloseeezz: Yeah I don't have any knowledge in that area but you seemed to have any easy time configuring it before, so I thought we would work from here to get back to that instead of having to drop to command line and deal with config files.10:24
meglowhatever works, tho.10:25
seeezztavasi, meglo: when i type thi sconfig thin it shows up this:10:29
seeezz@ubuntu:~$ sudo openvpn --config /etc/openvpn/my_config.conf10:30
seeezzOptions error: In [CMD-LINE]:1: Error opening configuration file: /etc/openvpn/my_config.conf10:30
megloHmmmmmmmm10:30
megloAgain I haven't used openvpn and I really would have preferred if we got the front-end(nm-applet) working for you again.10:30
seeezzlet me download the whole program from the openvpn10:30
megloI don't understand how openvpn works, but it seems to have trouble parsing your configuration file.10:31
megloYou should check the syntax and make sure everything is correctly formatted.10:31
megloseeezz: I think10:31
megloseeezz: I highly recommend you join ##openvpn10:31
megloseeezz: /join ##openvpn10:31
meglothey can help you out much better10:31
seeezzoh i should have gone ther emuch earlier meglo10:33
seeezzgreat info10:33
yodz-Happens after a random period of time, its like something doesnt let go of the mouse/keyboard events.11:21
yodz-Heyall, was wondering if anyone was able to tell me a fix for this wierd mouse lockup bug, cant select/alt tab from task to task when it happens.11:21
seeezzhi i cannot get openvpn to run. i tried now 10 times to downlaod the deb package from the website but it always stops after 2mb11:52
seeezzhow can i make this config fiel i need?11:52
seeezz+file11:52
seeezztavasti are u still there?11:53
seeezznoone from ##opnevpn is answering my questions11:55
rybladeHow can i change themes in Jaunty Jackalope 9.04?12:17
rybladehow can i install download themes in xubuntu Jaunty Jackalope 9.0412:24
Adilhi13:48
Adili reruire support for multimedia problem in my system13:48
Adili require support for multimedia support13:48
SiDiWell, if you'd asked for support I'd have been pleased to help you13:50
SiDiBut requiring is a bit rude.13:50
Slonkie!question | Adil13:53
ubottuAdil: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)13:53
ptizzyhow do i remove the ever-present floppy icon from my desktop?  i have no floppy drive.14:28
MikeChelenptizzy, right click desktop > desktop settings > icons14:33
knomeyou can disable all the removable devices on the desktop by right-clicking the desktop, under "desktop settings"  tab "icons"14:33
MikeChelentoo slow knome :D14:34
MikeChelenyou provided more helpful details though :)14:34
knome;)14:34
ptizzyMikeChelen and knome: i would like to still have other removable devices show up on the desktop.14:39
knomenot possible, at least on xfce 4.614:39
MikeChelenptizzy, ahh, maybe disable floppy disk controller in bios?14:40
ptizzyok.  i'll try that.  i haven't used a floppy in at least 5 years :-)14:41
MikeChelenlol me neither, which made me curious why my desktop has no icon14:41
ramrodis someone using rhythmbox on jaunty 64bit? it crashes when i make the visualisation fullscreen and when i add an automatic playlist and the podcast feeds dont work14:42
knomei don't *have* a floppy disk drive in my pc :P14:42
ptizzyi'm running xubuntu jaunty in VBox, so that's probably why it's there.  i'll look at the vbox settings.14:43
knomeptizzy, i suppose you can disable the floppy drive there if you want14:43
ptizzymy mother in law still uses floppies for her yearly tax stuff.  we can't seem to get her to use thumb drives...14:44
MikeChelenptizzy, check the removable drive settings in vbox14:45
jasonmchristosanyone home?15:38
charlie-tca!question | jasonmchristos15:39
ubottujasonmchristos: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)15:39
charlie-tca!anyone15:40
ubottuA large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?15:40
jasonmchristosjust making sure u are awake15:41
jasonmchristoslet me see if i still need help hold on im installing vino on xubuntu15:41
SlorHey guys - maybe more a general linux question...  I just put a new widescreen monitor on my system to replace a a smaller 4:3 monitor.  Is there a simple way to tell X to re-probe for available resolutions, or do I have to go add everything to the config file manually?15:44
SiDixrandr --auto ?15:45
jasonmchristosok vino is installed but it doesnt appear to be running15:45
jasonmchristoshow do i get vino to start automatically15:46
jasonmchristosalso the notification icon doesnt appear15:46
SlorSiDi - will xrandr rewrite the xf86config file for future boots?15:47
terquilinohi all15:47
Sloror xorg.conf - I forget what it is on this system15:48
terquilinocan some1 tell me how to switch between tasks using keys?15:48
jasonmchristosalt+tab terquilino15:48
terquilinoTHANKS!!15:49
SiDiSlonkie: not really sure15:54
SiDiSlor: *15:54
SiDiSlor: here it does seem to do the job though15:54
jasonmchristoshow do i start vino in xubuntu15:57
charlie-tca!vino15:57
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about vino15:57
jasonmchristosfor vino add this16:42
jasonmchristoshttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xubuntu-meta/+bug/5667016:42
jasonmchristosit worked for me16:42
denosMy wife installed xubuntu, decided to try gnome-desktop-environment, then switched back (yesterday). Today, she is unable to login, her home directory has been encrypted (evidently not requested), and ubuntu can't mount it. I can see a .Private encrypted directory. How do I access it?16:57
SiDiwow16:59
SiDidenos: do you mind asking in #ubuntu  ? There are more chances they know what it's about17:00
SiDii'll be there too17:00
MikeChelendenos, cd into the .Private directory and there are some instructions included17:11
denosUnfortunately, the instructions in the README.txt don't work. There is no encryptfs-mount-private on her filesystem. This may also be why the boot process can't access the directory. :(17:26
denosTrying to track down that file or manually invoke encfs...17:26
denosTypo: the file is there. But I get: Error: Encrypted Private is not setup properly17:27
denosSomething really went south here. The directory is encrypted but the key can't be recovered from pam.17:29
DDaygoldis there a way to mount samba shares on another linux (ubuntu 9.04) to this laptop running xubuntu 9.0417:49
SiDiDDaygold: from your laptop, you wanna mount a samba share on another PC ,17:54
SiDiDDaygold: you can ssh -XC and do it with nautilus (or use VNC and do it with nautilus)17:54
SiDiotherwise, you can use the mount command but i just dont know exactly how to do17:54
DDaygoldwhoah, idk how to do either of those, can you take me step by step?17:56
SiDisure17:56
SiDido you have the IP + login of the ubuntu machine ?17:56
SiDiAnd, is openssh-server installed on it ?17:56
DDaygoldhow can i find the ip of the ubuntu machine and no idk if i have openssh... on it17:57
SiDiCan you access it right now ? (Physically, i mean)17:58
DDaygold1 sec its downstairs17:58
DDaygoldk im on17:59
SiDialright17:59
SiDiType ifconfig in a console for the IP its what's written after inetaddr (or right click the network icon on the top right and click on Connection info)18:00
SiDinow, for the ssh server : "sudo apt-get install openssh-server" (or use synaptic and browse for openssh-server)18:01
SiDiOpenSSH is a protocol that lets you connect to your PC remotely. We'll use it to launch this PC's nautilus from your laptop18:01
DDaygoldk i know my ip, and openssh is installing18:02
DDaygoldnow its installed18:02
SiDigreat18:03
SiDilets go back to the laptop, then18:03
DDaygoldk, im actually typing on it18:03
SiDiyou'll type the following command : "ssh -XC <nickname>@<ip>"18:03
SiDiit'll ask for your password (we can setup ssh to use your RSA private key instead if you want)18:04
DDaygoldits telling me that the authencitity of the host cannot be determined... should i still connect?18:05
SiDiyes18:06
SiDiits because its the first time18:06
DDaygoldand the nickname is my loginname on that machine correct?18:06
SiDiit couldnt associate the ip of your ubuntu pc with a known mac address18:06
SiDion the remote machine18:06
DDaygoldum, it said the connection was closed by the other machine18:07
DDaygoldi ran the command again and got a password prompt, then  nothing18:08
DDaygoldthen username@whatever:~$18:08
DDaygoldSiDi, are u still here?18:15
SiDiYes, sorry18:15
SiDialright, you're connected on the machine then18:15
SiDiit may not be easy to use if they both have the same hostname :)18:16
SiDieasy to see *18:16
DDaygoldhow do i browse the files?18:16
DDaygoldor actually how do i put the mp3s on the share onto my music player?18:16
SiDiExplain me exactly what youre trying to do18:18
SiDiwhere are the mp3, and where should they go ?18:18
DDaygoldi have a folder called 1-music-1, it contains folders that contain my entire music collection18:19
DDaygoldubuntu is to processor hungry for my other two old (like 10 years old) computers, but i want to get them to play the music18:20
DDaygoldi'm sorry if i wasted your time b418:20
DDaygoldthanks for helping me... this is why people actually like *buntu18:21
SiDihm18:22
SiDiso you wanna grab your music from the ubuntu machine to the xubuntu one ?18:22
SiDiyou can use scp for that18:22
DDaygoldwhich is?18:22
SiDifor instance, to copy a folder : "scp -r (recursive) <name>@<ip>:<path_to_folder_from_/home/name> <path_on_the_local_machine>"18:23
DDaygoldwait, the hd on the laptop cant actually hold that much music, i need a way to keep the files on the remote machine but play them on the mobile laptop18:24
charlie-tcahttp://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/10/28/how-to-mount-a-remote-ssh-filesystem-using-sshfs/18:26
charlie-tcamight help, then18:26
charlie-tcaYou mount the remote system and play the files on the computer you are at18:27
DDaygoldexactly18:27
charlie-tcaJust use sshfs to mount the remote directories18:28
DDaygoldum?18:31
DDaygoldi have no idea how to do that18:32
charlie-tca<charlie-tca> http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/10/28/how-to-mount-a-remote-ssh-filesystem-using-sshfs/18:34
DDaygoldoh sorry for missing that link earlier18:34
charlie-tcano problem18:35
ladaI'd like to shrink my linux partition. how would I do that, being that it's locked in gparted?19:12
charlie-tcaYou will need to use a desktop/live cd, since you can't change an active partition19:12
ladaright19:13
ladaso I put the cd in and it will allow me to modify the size of the partition?19:13
ladamuch like I would shrink a volume in windows?19:13
pelikanheya, my mp3 player (iAudio) gets mounted read-only for some reason. i have tried manually mounting it passing the option "rw" but it didn't help. i also looked at the output of "mount" which looked ok (same mount-options there as with my usb stick that works). i'm running xubuntu hardy by the way. any ideas?19:19
charlie-tcaI don't know how you do it in windows. You would restart to the cd, then use gparted to resize the partition19:19
pelikanoh, and i forgot to mention that it works on windows19:23
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tabbaraqhi19:47
slashtactyo19:47
tabbaraqanyone have time to help me?19:47
Slonkie!question | tabbaraq19:48
ubottutabbaraq: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)19:48
tabbaraqsorry.19:48
tabbaraqHow to configure my GRUB default boot option?19:48
Slonkie!grub19:49
ubottuGRUB is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - GRUB how-tos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto19:49
velcroshoozwhat version of xfce is xubuntu running? 4.6.0?19:50
SiDi9.04 runs 4.6.019:50
tabbaraqCD says 8.10 :P19:50
SiDiothers run 4.419:50
tabbaraqso 4.419:50
SiDiThere is a PPA for 4.6.1 available (from hardy to jaunty)19:51
velcroshoozokay there were rumors of 4.6.1 in 9.04 thats why i asked19:51
SiDiits been packaged, i think19:51
SiDibut the process for updates during a release cycle is quite heavy19:51
SiDianyways the PPA is working fine, im on it right now19:51
tabbaraqBut, whit what program i can save the menu.lst file after i have configured it?19:51
SiDihttps://launchpad.net/~jerome-guelfucci/+archive/ppa19:52
SiDitabbaraq: just copy it19:52
SiDitabbaraq: sudo cp /boot/grub/menu.lst /boot/grub/mycopyofmenu.lst19:52
tabbaraqI managed to get the thing through xterm19:54
tabbaraqso, bye and thanks19:54
SiDiyou're welcome tabbaraq19:54
slashtactDoes anyone know how the swappiness scale works?20:01
* SiDi doesn't20:04
charlie-tcaDon't lower numbers swap more?20:05
slashtactless20:05
charlie-tcatry this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq20:06
Ben_Cshello20:06
slashtactbut there doesn't seem to be definitive information of what less means other than, well, less20:06
Ben_Csi couldn't find how to setup an anonymous proxy server in xubuntu.20:06
slashtact!proxy20:06
ubottuMany Ubuntu IRC channels prohibit access from !proxies such as !TOR and web (Java, etc) gateways due to a high level of abuse. You can however obtain a hostmask cloak: see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#cloaks. If you're using mibbit, please try joining #ubuntu again. Mibbit takes a long time to connect, so you may have missed a message to do this.20:06
slashtact:/20:07
charlie-tcaHuh, there is this - Reducing the default value of swappiness will probably improve overall performance for a typical Ubuntu desktop installation.20:07
charlie-tcahttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq#Performance%20tuning%20with%20%27%27swappiness%27%2720:07
slashtactYeah, I've been going through that and a mailing list where people are making points in both the direction of 100 swappiness and 10 swappiness20:08
Ben_Csslashtact: do using Tor is the best way?20:09
charlie-tcaslashtact: the f20:10
charlie-tcaFAQ recommends 10 for desktops, 60 for servers. Might be a good starting point, anyway.20:10
slashtactYeah, for a laptop with 3Gb and an average application load of 15% it doesn't make sense to me to be swapping out active applications for cache20:12
charlie-tcaI think mine is set to 10, as I recall, before I changed it, the hard drive was going constantly20:13
slashtactBen_Cs, I've never set up a local anon proxy, sorry20:14
slashtactBen_Cs, if you are just looking to tunnel traffic, here is a good guide: http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2008/06/18/tunnel-web-and-dns-traffic-over-ssh/20:16
slashtacthowever, it requires that you have ssh access to a server outside of whatever network you are on20:16
Ben_Csslashtact: does it also hide my ip?20:24
slashtactBen_Cs, it proxies through whatever server you setup, so it will use the ip of the proxy server20:26
Ben_Csslashtact: good. thanks. BTW how is it different than using normally a proxy server? only that the traffic is going through ssh?20:27
slashtactthat's correct20:28
Ben_Csgood20:35
Ben_Csthanks20:35
slashtactnp20:37
slashtactyou can also find most of the configuration information for tor on the tor website, however, it seems to have some latency issues20:38
Ben_Csok. but ssh tunneling is probably better20:42
Ben_Csslashtact: i've started self learning ethical hacking. so first i want to protect myself20:43
slashtactBen_Cs, ah, good luck with that, have you gone through lfs yet?20:44
Ben_Csslashtact, nope, rhat's that? i only installed firestarter firewall20:45
slashtactBen_Cs, lfs is the linux from scratch project, it walks you through compiling the linux kernel from scratch and then compiling basic packages and generally building linux20:47
slashtactBen_Cs, if you really want to know how things work and where vulnerabilities might be I would suggest it as a starting point20:48
Ben_Csslashtact: not Backtrack?20:48
slashtactBen_Cs, it's up to you20:49
slashtactlater20:49
SlonkieAnyone here been able to use exaile to tranfer music from harddrive -> iPod?20:58
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Shooreemy add/remove doesn't show anything on 8.10 how can I fix this?21:13
Shooreesynaptic works as usual, though21:13
SiDiMake sure to select "All available apps"21:14
SiDiand category "All"21:14
SiDiand run "sudo apt-get update" in a console21:14
Shooreeit is21:14
Shooreehave tried that 20 times21:15
Shooree21st time... nothing again21:16
Shooreeany other suggestions?21:17
SiDiBug report against gnome-app-install21:17
ShooreeI don't think I know how to do that21:18
Shooree<-- noob, as as can be seen from the initial question21:18
SiDiWait a second ;)21:18
Shooreesure. thx :)21:18
SiDihttps://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-app-install/+filebug21:19
SiDiI'm sorry for not being able to help you, but the guys who maintain it shall have a better idea. I personally only use aptitude :|21:19
Shooreeright. thx. it worked alright, but something got messed up during the kernel upgrade and my system has been a bit wobbly ever since21:20
SiDiI see21:20
SiDiwhat if you do sudo aptitude reinstall gnome-app-install ?21:20
Shooreelet me see21:25
Shooreeyesh!21:28
Shooreeworksies. thanks, SiDi!21:28
Ben_Cshow can i tunnel all my i-net traffic through ssh and proxy server?21:28
SiDiShooree: you're welcome21:29
SiDi!tunnel21:29
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about tunnel21:29
zoredacheBen_Cs: usually you need to setup a vpn or something on the remote server to allow that21:30
Ben_Csthere's this manual: http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2008/06/18/tunnel-web-and-dns-traffic-over-ssh/   but it's only for browser21:31
SlonkieAnyone know the option to place conky in the left lower corner? :/21:33
zoredacheyeah, if you want everything you really need a vpn...  A proxy works because it is designed to work with proxies.  Other applications may not know anything about proxies.21:33
Ben_Cszoredache: isn't there a way to redirecat ALL my i-net traffic to a proxy?21:34
zoredacheBen_Cs: it depends on the proxy... usually, there is not21:35
zoredachemost proxies servers only know http, and maybe ftp21:35
Ben_Cszoredache: so how does a hacker become anonymous on all ports?21:36
zoredachethey don't21:36
xububuhi - can anyone help with 9.04 and no sound icon in the top panel - and no sound21:37
zoredacheor they hack a persons computer and then launch all the attacks from that computer... They will be able to trace things back to you though if they are patient enough21:37
zoredacheor use open-wifi, library computers, internet cafees and so on...21:38
Ben_Cszoredache: i see21:38
zoredachereally this is not xubuntu releated and probably belongs elsewhere though....21:38
SiDixububu: can you please open xfce4-mixer and tell me what you see ?21:38
Ben_Cszoredache: actually i'm trying to make my xubuntu anonymous21:38
SiDixububu: also please open a terminal, type "ps aux | grep pulse" and paste the result in http://paste.ubuntu;com21:38
SiDixububu: also, right click a panel -> Add -> add a sound mixer back to it21:39
xububuhey SiDi -  hang on a second - (and thanks!)21:39
TheSheepSiDi: I think xubuntu doesn't use pulse by default21:40
zoredacheBen_Cs: the general purpose of this channel is desktop support...  You will get better results if you go to an appropriate channel.  Running Xubuntu doesn't make this the best channel to ask questions that aren't really related to xubuntu and apply to any linux system21:40
SiDiTheSheep: users coming from GNOME usually have it running21:40
Ben_Cszoredache: ok thanks21:41
TheSheepI see21:41
zoredacheI am not saying people won't be helpful here, I am just suggestion you can get better answers at locations that focus on things like that...21:41
xububuxfce4- mixer - master sound muted - have clicked on speaker to unmute master slider21:41
SiDiDo you have sound now ? :)21:43
xububuHi Sidi - have just pasted output - no sound yet21:46
SiDigive me the link returned by the site, please ;)21:48
xububuSiDi -/ The Sheep - first thanks - and I cannot add the sound mixer to the panel - do i have to create a custom action or something21:48
xububuSiDi - http://paste.ubuntu.com/197286/ (sorry)21:49
SiDialright21:49
SiDi"kill -9 4110 4111"21:49
SiDiit'll get rid of pulseaudio21:49
SiDixububu: if you dont use GNOME / KDE anymore, i suggest you to uninstall PulseAudio21:49
SlonkieAnyone know the option to place conky in the left lower corner? :/21:49
SiDiIt's not compatible with XFCE21:49
xububuwill do21:49
xububuUsing synaptic - and no , I just want xfce21:51
xububusorry - using synaptic ? (it was a question)21:51
SiDiYes if you want21:52
SiDi"sudo apt-get autoremove pulseaudio" will do iit too21:52
xububusorry new to linux, had 8.10 and upgraded without thinking - how do you remove pulse at command line21:53
xububumind reader21:56
SiDikind of :p21:57
SiDiyou were using GNOME before, right ?21:57
xububuNope - but have stumbled blindly from one page to another before trying here21:58
SiDiI mean - how did you manage to have pulseaudio installed on your system ?21:58
xububuthats what i mean - several pages have recomended getting pulse to work, - i just followed the commands, but no joy21:59
xububuI ran xf4ce-mixer from terminal22:00
SiDiwell, the mixer only works with gstreamer for now :)22:00
xububuand just to make it a little more difficult - this system is in spanish22:01
xububuYou told me to add the mixer to the panel, but when i try, there is no app to add ¿?22:01
xububupulse uninstalled, by the way22:02
SiDihttp://img41.imageshack.us/img41/8969/capture3i.png22:03
SiDiBe right back22:03
xububuok22:06
xububuWell SiDi - I'm a prat :P , and sound is now working - thankyou very much -22:07
SiDixububu: you're welcome22:10
xububuWell - I'm happy as larry22:12
xububuAnd next I have a problem, I will start here - au-revoir,adios and good night!22:13
SiDiadios xububu ;)22:14
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wbcHello23:18
wbcXubuntu have a lot of different ISO's on their homepage, which one should I download?23:18
SiDiIts the same, just hosted on different places :)23:20
SiDigrab the one near your home23:20
SiDiUbuntu 9.04 32bits will do for you23:20
SiDi(desktop)23:20
wbchttp://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/9.04/release/23:20
SiDiTake the first one23:20
wbcSiDi: Thanks again, hehe23:21
SiDi;)23:21
SiDiwoot, karmic alpha 2 boots23:21
forceswbc, use the desktop cd if you are ensure23:23
forceshttp://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/9.04/release/xubuntu-9.04-desktop-i386.iso23:23
SiDithats exactly the one i pointed him too ;)23:23

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