[00:23] <stephane> hi !  how does the sound event works in xfce 4.6
[00:44] <bsssh> Hey! I have a "?"(yes I asked google :/ with no resultes..) Can I enable thumbnailers for DESKTOP in xfce? Thunar generates them inside own window, but not on Desktop. Ie I can view the Desktop folder in Thunar - thumbnails are here, but on desktop itself - only icons.
[00:44] <bsssh> 9.04 installed.
[00:48] <knome> bsssh, i suppose that's not possible on xfce 4.6
[00:48] <bsssh> thanks...
[00:49] <bsssh> I dont understand why thou... :/
[00:49] <bsssh> thanks anyway :/
[00:49] <knome> JPohlmann can maybe answer that.
[00:50] <JPohlmann> bsssh: I'm not ... sure.
[00:50] <JPohlmann> That'll most likely change with 4.8 though.
[00:50] <bsssh> I checked thumbnailers guide in xfce.org and the thing is that they do display in thunar itself
[00:51] <bsssh> but not on desktop..
[00:51] <bsssh> I searched for options in settings manager.
[00:51] <bsssh> well, thanks for your time.=)
[00:52] <JPohlmann> bsssh: Well, the desktop is not managed by thunar.
[00:52] <JPohlmann> xfdesktop is the application that does that and I suppose it's not generating thumbnails then.
[00:52] <JPohlmann> In 4.8 we'll probably have a D-Bus service for generating thumbnails which all applications will talk to.
[00:53] <bsssh> hm strange, I thought as in lxde, thunar controlls this.
[00:53] <bsssh> but I understand now.
[00:53] <bsssh> thunar->xfdesktop->actual desktop
[00:53] <bsssh> k, thx JP
[00:54] <JPohlmann> Thunar is the file manager and xfdesktop uses the Thunar D-Bus API for some tasks.
[00:54] <JPohlmann> But that's incomplete and I'm planning to improve the API in 4.8 so that xfdesktop will be more consistent with Thunar.
[00:55] <bsssh> :) thanks a lot!
[01:13] <Sinatra> can anybody help me set up my webcam on ubuntu?
[01:13] <knome> what's the problem?
[01:14] <Sinatra> i would like to set one up but i'm not sure what a good program for it is
[01:15] <Sinatra> on windows i found something called yawcam that shows my webcam on a website hosted through my ip address
[01:15] <knome> right, so you want to broadcast it to internet?
[01:15] <knome> or use with skype/instant messaging?
[01:15] <Sinatra> http://98.225.141.136:8081
[01:15] <knome> anyway, the first step is to get it recognised and working.
[01:15] <Sinatra> click that link for example
[01:16] <knome> okay
[01:16] <knome> so have you plugged the cam in the xubuntu pc?
[01:16] <Sinatra> something like that but i would like it to work on ubuntu
[01:16] <Sinatra> right now i'm on XP
[01:16] <knome> oh right
[01:16] <Sinatra> i have regular ubuntu loaded this computer though
[01:16] <knome> what's your camera model?
[01:16] <knome> no problem.
[01:16] <Sinatra> logitech quickpro 6000 i think?
[01:16] <knome> okay, let's see
[01:17] <Sinatra> the only problem with this one is that it's too fuzzy like
[01:18] <knome> Sinatra, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCamerasLogitech for exact compatibility
[01:19] <knome> i don't see quickpro 6000 there, but it might use the same driver as some other quickcam model
[01:19] <Sinatra> i might have the model number wrong
[01:19] <Sinatra> i had it working on skype once
[01:20] <knome> on ubuntu?
[01:20] <Sinatra> yeah
[01:20] <Sinatra> the hardware works
[01:20] <knome> oh, right, so you only need an app
[01:20] <knome> i see
[01:20] <Sinatra> but i just need to know of a software program ... to allow me to broadcst on the internet
[01:20]  * knome browses the web a bit
[01:21] <Sinatra> Make a video stream
[01:21] <Sinatra> If you have the Apache Web server installed on your machine, you can use the webcam to make a video stream and display it on a Web page. The easiest way to accomplish this is by using webcam-server. In Ubuntu you can install the application with sudo apt-get install webcam-server. Start up the server with the binary name of the utility and point your browser to http://localhost:8888 to configure it.
[01:21] <Sinatra> Webcam-server has some options you can use to change the display mode of the stream and offer your visitors some additional info. For example, you can display the date, frame rate, and number of viewers by using webcam-server -c "%d/%m/%Y %H:%M:%S - serving %%v viewers at %%f FPS". You can make webcam-server listen on another port if the default 8888 doesn't suit you by using the -p attribute. Among other things, you can flip the disp
[01:22] <knome> right... that sounds something that might work :)
[01:22] <Sinatra> too much work to get set u though?
[01:23] <knome> well, if you don't need apache for anything else, it sounds a bit overkill.
[01:24] <Sinatra> mmm so should i look for other options?
[01:25] <knome> i'm not sure what kind of alternatives there are
[01:25] <knome> just trying to find out
[01:25] <Sinatra> how complicated would it be to set up apache then?
[01:26] <knome> it's not very complicated i would say
[01:26] <knome> !apache
[01:26] <knome> you don't need mysql or php if you only host the webcam stream
[01:27] <Sinatra> in stupid people language how complicated would it be?
[01:27] <knome> you might also be ok with some other web server, but i don't know how the webcam-server works
[01:27] <knome> install a package.
[01:28] <knome> ;)
[01:28] <knome> i suppose any web server is okay.
[01:29] <knome> it might be better to confirm that at #ubuntu
[01:29] <Sinatra> i got someone coming in here from there hopefully
[01:30] <Sinatra> hey what'sup
[01:30] <Procedured> hi
[01:31] <Sinatra> Knome is helping me out with this webcam thing ... he is saying something about a webserver
[01:31] <Sinatra> Make a video stream
[01:31] <Sinatra> If you have the Apache Web server installed on your machine, you can use the webcam to make a video stream and display it on a Web page. The easiest way to accomplish this is by using webcam-server. In Ubuntu you can install the application with sudo apt-get install webcam-server. Start up the server with the binary name of the utility and point your browser to http://localhost:8888 to configure it.
[01:31] <Sinatra> Webcam-server has some options you can use to change the display mode of the stream and offer your visitors some additional info. For example, you can display the date, frame rate, and number of viewers by using webcam-server -c "%d/%m/%Y %H:%M:%S - serving %%v viewers at %%f FPS". You can make webcam-server listen on another port if the default 8888 doesn't suit you by using the -p attribute. Among other things, you can flip the disp
[01:31] <Procedured> if u get kicked come back:p
[01:31] <knome> Sinatra, please paste long text clips at pastebin
[01:32] <knome> !pastebin
[01:32] <Sinatra> thank you, i am sorry.
[01:32] <Procedured> so kind of like a podcast/videocast is what you are looking for>?
[01:32] <knome> np:)
[01:33] <Sinatra> i am doing it on XP right now: http://98.225.141.136:8081
[01:33] <Sinatra> i would like to set up that feature on linux however
[01:34] <Procedured> i see , hmm i really dont kknow ill look around for a few minutes and try and come up with othe ideas as well
[01:35] <Sinatra> what do you think of the webserver idea?
[01:35] <knome> Sinatra, i think you should just try the package webcam-server and see what comes.
[01:35] <Sinatra> where can i download that from?
[01:35] <knome> Sinatra, i'm not sure if it has a server built-in or how it works, but it will tell you :)
[01:36] <knome> Sinatra, 'sudo apt-get install webcam-server' or from synaptic search for 'webcam-server', select and install
[01:36] <Sinatra> alright i need to get this computer rebooted into ubuntu ...
[01:36] <Sinatra> let me get to my desktop
[01:38] <sinatra-> okay here
[01:38] <Procedured> open a terminal
[01:38] <sinatra-> i am rebooting right now
[01:39] <Procedured> ah k
[01:39] <sinatra-> another thing i was thinking ... was ... about a solidstate/flash memory harddrive
[01:39] <sinatra-> i was thinking of using it just exclusively for the operating system ... so it would boot up flash then use a traditional hard drive for storage needs
[01:40] <Procedured> should work , responsive, more reliable (maybe)
[01:41] <Sinatra> they are very very expensive though
[01:42] <Sinatra> okay i'm on linux with a terminal open
[01:42] <Sinatra> what's my sudo code thing
 Sinatra, 'sudo apt-get install webcam-server' or from synaptic search for 'webcam-server', select and install
[01:43] <Sinatra> okay great
[01:43] <Sinatra> it's giving me unable to fetch some archives
[01:44] <Sinatra> maybe run apt-get update or try with -- fix missing
[01:47] <Sinatra> great now my screen is very very bright
[02:54] <sml1226> I did an apt-get install kubuntu-desktop and decided to remove it. How do I remove the apps now?
[02:55] <sml1226> remove kubuntu-desktop only removes the gui not the apps
[02:56] <sml1226> teeny 10GB space won't let me do much here. Need to free up some space.
[03:03] <sml1226> is there a way to back up my UI settings without actually making a total backup of the whole system?
[03:04] <sml1226> Just my settings?
[03:37] <yodz-> Heyall, was wondering if anyone was able to tell me a fix for this wierd mouse lockup bug, cant select/alt tab from task to task when it happens.
[03:49] <yodz-> Happens after a random period of time, its like something doesnt let go of the mouse/keyboard events.
[03:50] <yodz-> Verified its not hardware as well.
[03:56] <Kasm279> how do i switch to a different soundcard?
[03:57] <Kasm279> (i.e. one in a USB dock)
[03:57] <maduser> open mixer
[03:57] <maduser> then there is a menu to chose sound card
[03:58] <Kasm279> ok
[03:58] <Kasm279> did nothing
[03:58] <maduser> do you have sound at all?'
[03:59] <Kasm279> from my laptop's speakers
[03:59] <Kasm279> (its headphone out is broke, so im trying to get sound through the dock)
[03:59] <maduser> then what do you want to change?
[04:00] <maduser> oh
[04:00] <Kasm279> so it outputs to that instead of the internal speakers
[04:00] <Kasm279> (cause they kinda suck :\)
[04:01] <maduser> then I don't know what to tell you
[04:07] <Kasm279> anyone else?
[04:38] <Kasm279> HELLO
[04:53] <yodz-> anyone have any ideas about my question yet?
[04:54] <TheSheep> Kasm279: please don't play with ctcp
[04:54] <Kasm279> k
[04:56] <Kasm279> how do i switch to a different soundcard? (in a USB dock)
[04:56] <Kasm279> yodz-: im wondering the same thing >.>
[05:09] <cody> I need help
[05:09] <cody> my whole comp is messing up
[05:09] <cody> im getting "E: Malformed line 1 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/pidgin-ppa.list (dist parse) "
[05:10] <TheSheep> hmm... why don't you remove that line form it?
[05:10] <Kasm279> from*
[05:10] <cody> sorry im a noob
[05:10] <cody> how would I do that?
[05:11] <TheSheep> how did you get it in there in the first place?
[05:11] <cody> I didnt
[05:11] <cody> the comp was fine when I turned it off a week ago
[05:11] <cody> I just turned it on now
[05:11] <TheSheep> ppa's are not installed by default, the whole idea is that they are experimental
[05:12] <Kasm279> how can i switch to a USB soundcard quickly and back to my laptop's internal one?
[05:12] <cody> and its having truble
[05:12] <cody> *troble
[05:12] <cody> *trouble
[05:12] <cody> ummm its pidgin
[05:13] <cody> which is a program that was there when I got xubuntu
[05:13] <TheSheep> cody: well, open a terminal, type 'gksu mousepad /etc/apt/sources.list.d/pidgin-ppa.list' and look for the suspicious line
[05:13] <TheSheep> then comment it out by placing a # in front and save
[05:14] <TheSheep> programs usually don't break themselves, and don't install experimental stuff
[05:15] <cody> that fixed it
[05:15] <cody> I think the problem might be that the program is at a newer version
[05:16] <cody> would that cause a problem?
[05:17] <TheSheep> well, xubuntu is released once every 6 months with a set of applications that aretested together and checked. if you replace one of them, the whole is not tested anymored...
[05:17] <TheSheep> anymore*
[05:17] <cody> I didnt replace anything
[05:18] <cody> which is why im so confused
[05:18] <TheSheep> you added an additional source of applications, an ppa which is experimental
[05:18] <Kasm279> how can i switch to a USB soundcard quickly and back to my laptop's internal one?
[05:18] <TheSheep> in this case a ppa for pidging
[05:18] <TheSheep> pidgin
[05:18] <TheSheep> sorry about the typos
[05:19] <cody> but pidgin came with xubuntu
[05:20] <TheSheep> specific version of pidgin that was tested with xubuntu, yes
[05:20] <cody> I didnt update
[05:20] <Kasm279> pidgin came with xubuntu o_O?
[05:20] <TheSheep> someone did
[05:20] <cody> I was asking if the problem was because I didnt update
[05:20] <TheSheep> Kasm279: yes
[05:21] <TheSheep> cody: no, someone added an experimental version to your application sources
[05:21] <Kasm279> it didnt come with mine O.O
[05:21] <TheSheep> cody: and probably did it wrong, thatn's why it complained about that line
[05:21] <cody> I see
[05:21] <TheSheep> Kasm279: it's there since 8.4 or even earlier
[05:22] <Kasm279> okay, mine had xchat
[05:22] <cody> next question
[05:22] <TheSheep> cody: the error wasn't in fact related to pidgin itself, just to how it was wrongly added
[05:22] <cody> how do I fix pidgin?
[05:22] <cody> I see
[05:22] <TheSheep> cody: it's broken now?
[05:22] <Kasm279> (note: i did sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop    under kubuntu)
[05:22] <cody> pidgin is only showing msn and IRC people
[05:23] <cody> its been like that since I turned it on
[05:23] <TheSheep> cody: go to system->synaptic package manager, search for pidgin in it and do a reinstall
[05:23] <TheSheep> that should bring back the older version
[05:24] <TheSheep> the one originally shipped with xubuntu
[05:24] <Kasm279> how can i switch to a USB soundcard quickly and back to my laptop's internal one?
[05:24] <TheSheep> !repeat | Kasm279
[05:28] <cody> thanks for the help
[05:29] <cody> oi
[05:29] <cody> that didnt help
[07:05] <binskipy2u> is xfce/xubuntu that much more faster, stabler, less resource footprint then gnome/ubuntu, kde kubuntu? on say a triple core 64bit machine with 4 gigs ram?
[07:11] <tavasti> binskipy2u, on such machine difference in resource consumption in marginal
[09:46] <seeezz> hello first i had ubuntu and there i could configure VPN connections. with xubuntu not so i installed openvpn from the terminal. i thought that now i can configure it through network manager but i cannot. does anyone know what to do next, or another easy method? thanks!
[09:47] <Slonkie> Did you go to the network manager -> VPN -> Add -> and then choose openvpn?
[09:48] <seeezz> i cannot click on "add" because ..it is not possible to click there
[09:48] <seeezz> no wait please
[09:50] <seeezz> i cannot press "add" it is not possible
[09:50] <seeezz> do you know the command to start the open vpn from console?
[09:50] <Slonkie> No, sorry.
[09:52] <seeezz> there are soi many options. when i normally download from the repository i can make it start by just ztyping the name of the program. or it is then in the menu of the xubuntu. but thank you Slonkie, i`ll continue readin
[09:56] <seeezz> p.s: if anyone has the muse for guiding me a bit through this topic, i would appreciate it
[09:58] <Harlekien> #xubuntu/motd
[09:58] <Harlekien> #xubunt/motd
[09:59] <SiDi> Harlekien: ?
[09:59] <tavasti> seeezz, what you are trying to do with openvpn?
[09:59] <SiDi> seeezz: what application were you using on ubuntu to connect to VPN servers ? Cause you can keep using the same
[10:00] <Harlekien> sorry, i am new to irc and trying to see the documentationen
[10:01] <seeezz> tavasti: i want to connect to my job
[10:02] <tavasti> do you have config file from you work?
[10:02] <meglo> Harlekien: the /motd command just shows you the server's motd, it isn't really useful. To see the topic type /topic. You either learn IRC by using it, reading a guide, or the RFCs.
[10:02] <seeezz> SiDi : i was just right clicking the network symbol on the corner right up and then i went to add vpn connection
[10:02] <Harlekien> meglo: thank you
[10:03] <seeezz> tavasti:i think i only have "keys" files
[10:03] <meglo> Harlekien: all commands for your IRC client are prefixed with a forward slash. as in "/command"
[10:03] <tavasti> what vpn they are using there?
[10:03] <seeezz> but now i want to download the openvpn from the website of them, maybe it will work then
[10:04] <Harlekien> am i correct in this channel for thing about xubuntu?
[10:04] <tavasti> openvpn binary included in ubuntu works fine, but you need config file
[10:05] <Slonkie> Harlekien, yes this is the xubuntu help channel.
[10:05] <meglo> Harlekien: not exactly, but there are better places probably. I don't know of any, really. I only know how to use IRC after years of learning bits and pieces.
[10:05] <tavasti> openvpn --config /etc/openvpn/my_config.conf
[10:05] <seeezz> tavasti, i am using xubuntu, but i think it doesnt make a difference right?  tavasti: i think they use openVpn
[10:05] <meglo> Because I was lazy. I did read the RFCs when setting up an actual server this one time.
[10:06] <tavasti> seeezz, xubuntu is ubuntu with xfce
[10:06] <seeezz> ok tavasti: when i am in this config file, what do i have to type in there?
[10:06] <tavasti> IMHO, this openvpn discussion is more for general #ubuntu channel
[10:06] <tavasti> seeezz, look few lines back
[10:06] <meglo> I think he was using nm-applet to do his vpn before.
[10:06] <seeezz> oh, ok
[10:06] <meglo> seeezz: you switched from ubuntu to xubuntu?
[10:06] <seeezz> ok thks dudes
[10:07] <meglo> What version of ubuntu were you running and what version of xubuntu are you running now?
[10:07] <seeezz> yes, because i got a notebook and read xubuntu workd more qzuick
[10:07] <seeezz> i ran 8.10 with upgrade to 9.04
[10:07] <meglo> seeezz: Ok, but can you tell me the versions(hardy, intrepid, gutsy, etc) for them?
[10:07] <meglo> seeezz: on Ubuntu? Or Xubuntu on your notebook?
[10:07] <meglo> Errr,
[10:08] <meglo> Did you reinstall with a newer xubuntu?
[10:08] <meglo> seeezz: can you right click your little network icon in the system tray, click 'about', and tell me the version of it?
[10:09] <seeezz> no i used an old computer that is almost dead with ubuntu. now i bought a new notebook and ther is vista on it. but i am already used to ubuntu and so i did a Wubi installation of xubuntu
[10:09] <seeezz> meglo: ok just a sec
[10:09] <meglo> I haven't dealt with openvpn/ipsec but it seems you were able to get it working easily before, so something simple should be able to be done to get it working once more.
[10:09] <Harlekien> ok people, i am going offline. see you this evening.
[10:09] <meglo> Harlekien: you can use /away
[10:09] <meglo> Harlekien: /away reason
[10:09] <seeezz> Netzwerk-Manager-Applet 0.7.0.100
[10:10] <Harlekien> meglo: thanks!
[10:10] <meglo> No problem.
[10:10] <meglo> seeezz: and you were using that network systemtray icon to connect to your VPN in ubuntu?
[10:12] <seeezz> yes, if ubuntu and xubuntu is the same it must have been the same but i am not 100percent sure.
[10:12] <meglo> seeezz: do you see an 'unlock' button anywhere when you open it up? In newer ubuntu versions(and xubuntu) they let you view information from things like network-manager applet without having to type in your password, but provide you with an 'unlock' button if you need to do something, like configure VPN for example
[10:14] <seeezz> i think tavasti already told me what to do a few line above but i have to try this stuff slowly. i am a bit overloaded. i cannot see an unlock button(in the network manager?)
[10:14] <meglo> ah I haven't used the latest 0.7 version which you have
[10:14] <meglo> But I do have it here, it is a little different
[10:14] <meglo> I'm not exactly sure what you see.
[10:15] <meglo> seeezz: can you left click on the network manager icon, and then click "vpn connections"
[10:15] <meglo> click on it like an icon
[10:15] <seeezz> let me try to do this config file tavasti mentioned
[10:15] <meglo> mmmmmmmm ok
[10:15] <seeezz> ok i am clicking
[10:15] <seeezz> no wait
[10:15] <meglo> do you see...
[10:15] <meglo> ?
[10:15] <seeezz> try to help me
[10:16] <meglo> no sure
[10:16] <meglo> I'm not sure what you're doing exactly, on my network-manager-applet
[10:16] <meglo> it lets me left click on it, go to 'vpn connections' and then click on 'configure vpn'
[10:16] <meglo> oh same here
[10:16] <seeezz> meglo: when i do this and ewant to add a vpn, the field "add" is greyed out
[10:16] <meglo> it isn't lettting me click add
[10:16] <meglo> yes
[10:16] <meglo> seeezz: same problem
[10:16] <seeezz> oh funny
[10:17] <meglo> ok ok
[10:17] <meglo> hmmm
[10:17] <seeezz> tavasti sayed i have to create a config filke
[10:17] <meglo> you don't see an unlock button eh?
[10:17] <meglo> are you on wireless or a wired connection
[10:17] <seeezz> no do you?
[10:17] <meglo> seeezz: I do not.
[10:17] <seeezz> i am on umts
[10:17] <meglo> ok mobile
[10:17] <meglo> click on 'Mobile Broadband'
[10:17] <meglo> do you see your network interface there?
[10:18] <seeezz> oh yes!!
[10:18] <seeezz> hows that? haha!"
[10:18] <meglo> yes
[10:18] <meglo> click 'edit'
[10:18] <seeezz> ah no thats normal sorry
[10:18] <seeezz> eh?
[10:18] <meglo> it should prompt you to type your pass
[10:18] <seeezz> okj i do
[10:18] <meglo> damn
[10:18] <meglo> ok, it is still grayed out for me
[10:18] <seeezz> hmz
[10:19] <meglo> I thought it would, after having us type the pass, allow us to configure VPN
[10:19] <meglo> let me see
[10:19] <seeezz> thnaks:)
[10:20] <meglo> seeezz: I'm inexperienced with VPNs, I have never touched or used one.
[10:20] <meglo> But Ubuntu's wiki has some information on it that should be very similar to xubuntu: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VPN
[10:21] <meglo> Because xubuntu is just ubuntu, and basically has all the same configuration programs(namely nm-applet in this case) as mainline Ubuntu
[10:21] <seeezz> ok, but you are very helpful. i will make it i am sure. and afterwards a bit smarter
[10:24] <meglo> seeezz: Yeah I don't have any knowledge in that area but you seemed to have any easy time configuring it before, so I thought we would work from here to get back to that instead of having to drop to command line and deal with config files.
[10:25] <meglo> whatever works, tho.
[10:29] <seeezz> tavasi, meglo: when i type thi sconfig thin it shows up this:
[10:30] <seeezz> @ubuntu:~$ sudo openvpn --config /etc/openvpn/my_config.conf
[10:30] <seeezz> Options error: In [CMD-LINE]:1: Error opening configuration file: /etc/openvpn/my_config.conf
[10:30] <meglo> Hmmmmmmmm
[10:30] <meglo> Again I haven't used openvpn and I really would have preferred if we got the front-end(nm-applet) working for you again.
[10:30] <seeezz> let me download the whole program from the openvpn
[10:31] <meglo> I don't understand how openvpn works, but it seems to have trouble parsing your configuration file.
[10:31] <meglo> You should check the syntax and make sure everything is correctly formatted.
[10:31] <meglo> seeezz: I think
[10:31] <meglo> seeezz: I highly recommend you join ##openvpn
[10:31] <meglo> seeezz: /join ##openvpn
[10:31] <meglo> they can help you out much better
[10:33] <seeezz> oh i should have gone ther emuch earlier meglo
[10:33] <seeezz> great info
[11:21] <yodz-> Happens after a random period of time, its like something doesnt let go of the mouse/keyboard events.
[11:21] <yodz-> Heyall, was wondering if anyone was able to tell me a fix for this wierd mouse lockup bug, cant select/alt tab from task to task when it happens.
[11:52] <seeezz> hi i cannot get openvpn to run. i tried now 10 times to downlaod the deb package from the website but it always stops after 2mb
[11:52] <seeezz> how can i make this config fiel i need?
[11:52] <seeezz> +file
[11:53] <seeezz> tavasti are u still there?
[11:55] <seeezz> noone from ##opnevpn is answering my questions
[12:17] <ryblade> How can i change themes in Jaunty Jackalope 9.04?
[12:24] <ryblade> how can i install download themes in xubuntu Jaunty Jackalope 9.04
[13:48] <Adil> hi
[13:48] <Adil> i reruire support for multimedia problem in my system
[13:48] <Adil> i require support for multimedia support
[13:50] <SiDi> Well, if you'd asked for support I'd have been pleased to help you
[13:50] <SiDi> But requiring is a bit rude.
[13:53] <Slonkie> !question | Adil
[14:28] <ptizzy> how do i remove the ever-present floppy icon from my desktop?  i have no floppy drive.
[14:33] <MikeChelen> ptizzy, right click desktop > desktop settings > icons
[14:33] <knome> you can disable all the removable devices on the desktop by right-clicking the desktop, under "desktop settings"  tab "icons"
[14:34] <MikeChelen> too slow knome :D
[14:34] <MikeChelen> you provided more helpful details though :)
[14:34] <knome> ;)
[14:39] <ptizzy> MikeChelen and knome: i would like to still have other removable devices show up on the desktop.
[14:39] <knome> not possible, at least on xfce 4.6
[14:40] <MikeChelen> ptizzy, ahh, maybe disable floppy disk controller in bios?
[14:41] <ptizzy> ok.  i'll try that.  i haven't used a floppy in at least 5 years :-)
[14:41] <MikeChelen> lol me neither, which made me curious why my desktop has no icon
[14:42] <ramrod> is someone using rhythmbox on jaunty 64bit? it crashes when i make the visualisation fullscreen and when i add an automatic playlist and the podcast feeds dont work
[14:42] <knome> i don't *have* a floppy disk drive in my pc :P
[14:43] <ptizzy> i'm running xubuntu jaunty in VBox, so that's probably why it's there.  i'll look at the vbox settings.
[14:43] <knome> ptizzy, i suppose you can disable the floppy drive there if you want
[14:44] <ptizzy> my mother in law still uses floppies for her yearly tax stuff.  we can't seem to get her to use thumb drives...
[14:45] <MikeChelen> ptizzy, check the removable drive settings in vbox
[15:38] <jasonmchristos> anyone home?
[15:39] <charlie-tca> !question | jasonmchristos
[15:40] <charlie-tca> !anyone
[15:41] <jasonmchristos> just making sure u are awake
[15:41] <jasonmchristos> let me see if i still need help hold on im installing vino on xubuntu
[15:44] <Slor> Hey guys - maybe more a general linux question...  I just put a new widescreen monitor on my system to replace a a smaller 4:3 monitor.  Is there a simple way to tell X to re-probe for available resolutions, or do I have to go add everything to the config file manually?
[15:45] <SiDi> xrandr --auto ?
[15:45] <jasonmchristos> ok vino is installed but it doesnt appear to be running
[15:46] <jasonmchristos> how do i get vino to start automatically
[15:46] <jasonmchristos> also the notification icon doesnt appear
[15:47] <Slor> SiDi - will xrandr rewrite the xf86config file for future boots?
[15:47] <terquilino> hi all
[15:48] <Slor> or xorg.conf - I forget what it is on this system
[15:48] <terquilino> can some1 tell me how to switch between tasks using keys?
[15:48] <jasonmchristos> alt+tab terquilino
[15:49] <terquilino> THANKS!!
[15:54] <SiDi> Slonkie: not really sure
[15:54] <SiDi> Slor: *
[15:54] <SiDi> Slor: here it does seem to do the job though
[15:57] <jasonmchristos> how do i start vino in xubuntu
[15:57] <charlie-tca> !vino
[16:42] <jasonmchristos> for vino add this
[16:42] <jasonmchristos> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xubuntu-meta/+bug/56670
[16:42] <jasonmchristos> it worked for me
[16:57] <denos> My wife installed xubuntu, decided to try gnome-desktop-environment, then switched back (yesterday). Today, she is unable to login, her home directory has been encrypted (evidently not requested), and ubuntu can't mount it. I can see a .Private encrypted directory. How do I access it?
[16:59] <SiDi> wow
[17:00] <SiDi> denos: do you mind asking in #ubuntu  ? There are more chances they know what it's about
[17:00] <SiDi> i'll be there too
[17:11] <MikeChelen> denos, cd into the .Private directory and there are some instructions included
[17:26] <denos> Unfortunately, the instructions in the README.txt don't work. There is no encryptfs-mount-private on her filesystem. This may also be why the boot process can't access the directory. :(
[17:26] <denos> Trying to track down that file or manually invoke encfs...
[17:27] <denos> Typo: the file is there. But I get: Error: Encrypted Private is not setup properly
[17:29] <denos> Something really went south here. The directory is encrypted but the key can't be recovered from pam.
[17:49] <DDaygold> is there a way to mount samba shares on another linux (ubuntu 9.04) to this laptop running xubuntu 9.04
[17:54] <SiDi> DDaygold: from your laptop, you wanna mount a samba share on another PC ,
[17:54] <SiDi> DDaygold: you can ssh -XC and do it with nautilus (or use VNC and do it with nautilus)
[17:54] <SiDi> otherwise, you can use the mount command but i just dont know exactly how to do
[17:56] <DDaygold> whoah, idk how to do either of those, can you take me step by step?
[17:56] <SiDi> sure
[17:56] <SiDi> do you have the IP + login of the ubuntu machine ?
[17:56] <SiDi> And, is openssh-server installed on it ?
[17:57] <DDaygold> how can i find the ip of the ubuntu machine and no idk if i have openssh... on it
[17:58] <SiDi> Can you access it right now ? (Physically, i mean)
[17:58] <DDaygold> 1 sec its downstairs
[17:59] <DDaygold> k im on
[17:59] <SiDi> alright
[18:00] <SiDi> Type ifconfig in a console for the IP its what's written after inetaddr (or right click the network icon on the top right and click on Connection info)
[18:01] <SiDi> now, for the ssh server : "sudo apt-get install openssh-server" (or use synaptic and browse for openssh-server)
[18:01] <SiDi> OpenSSH is a protocol that lets you connect to your PC remotely. We'll use it to launch this PC's nautilus from your laptop
[18:02] <DDaygold> k i know my ip, and openssh is installing
[18:02] <DDaygold> now its installed
[18:03] <SiDi> great
[18:03] <SiDi> lets go back to the laptop, then
[18:03] <DDaygold> k, im actually typing on it
[18:03] <SiDi> you'll type the following command : "ssh -XC <nickname>@<ip>"
[18:04] <SiDi> it'll ask for your password (we can setup ssh to use your RSA private key instead if you want)
[18:05] <DDaygold> its telling me that the authencitity of the host cannot be determined... should i still connect?
[18:06] <SiDi> yes
[18:06] <SiDi> its because its the first time
[18:06] <DDaygold> and the nickname is my loginname on that machine correct?
[18:06] <SiDi> it couldnt associate the ip of your ubuntu pc with a known mac address
[18:06] <SiDi> on the remote machine
[18:07] <DDaygold> um, it said the connection was closed by the other machine
[18:08] <DDaygold> i ran the command again and got a password prompt, then  nothing
[18:08] <DDaygold> then username@whatever:~$
[18:15] <DDaygold> SiDi, are u still here?
[18:15] <SiDi> Yes, sorry
[18:15] <SiDi> alright, you're connected on the machine then
[18:16] <SiDi> it may not be easy to use if they both have the same hostname :)
[18:16] <SiDi> easy to see *
[18:16] <DDaygold> how do i browse the files?
[18:16] <DDaygold> or actually how do i put the mp3s on the share onto my music player?
[18:18] <SiDi> Explain me exactly what youre trying to do
[18:18] <SiDi> where are the mp3, and where should they go ?
[18:19] <DDaygold> i have a folder called 1-music-1, it contains folders that contain my entire music collection
[18:20] <DDaygold> ubuntu is to processor hungry for my other two old (like 10 years old) computers, but i want to get them to play the music
[18:20] <DDaygold> i'm sorry if i wasted your time b4
[18:21] <DDaygold> thanks for helping me... this is why people actually like *buntu
[18:22] <SiDi> hm
[18:22] <SiDi> so you wanna grab your music from the ubuntu machine to the xubuntu one ?
[18:22] <SiDi> you can use scp for that
[18:22] <DDaygold> which is?
[18:23] <SiDi> for instance, to copy a folder : "scp -r (recursive) <name>@<ip>:<path_to_folder_from_/home/name> <path_on_the_local_machine>"
[18:24] <DDaygold> wait, the hd on the laptop cant actually hold that much music, i need a way to keep the files on the remote machine but play them on the mobile laptop
[18:26] <charlie-tca> http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/10/28/how-to-mount-a-remote-ssh-filesystem-using-sshfs/
[18:26] <charlie-tca> might help, then
[18:27] <charlie-tca> You mount the remote system and play the files on the computer you are at
[18:27] <DDaygold> exactly
[18:28] <charlie-tca> Just use sshfs to mount the remote directories
[18:31] <DDaygold> um?
[18:32] <DDaygold> i have no idea how to do that
 http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/10/28/how-to-mount-a-remote-ssh-filesystem-using-sshfs/
[18:34] <DDaygold> oh sorry for missing that link earlier
[18:35] <charlie-tca> no problem
[19:12] <lada> I'd like to shrink my linux partition. how would I do that, being that it's locked in gparted?
[19:12] <charlie-tca> You will need to use a desktop/live cd, since you can't change an active partition
[19:13] <lada> right
[19:13] <lada> so I put the cd in and it will allow me to modify the size of the partition?
[19:13] <lada> much like I would shrink a volume in windows?
[19:19] <pelikan> heya, my mp3 player (iAudio) gets mounted read-only for some reason. i have tried manually mounting it passing the option "rw" but it didn't help. i also looked at the output of "mount" which looked ok (same mount-options there as with my usb stick that works). i'm running xubuntu hardy by the way. any ideas?
[19:19] <charlie-tca> I don't know how you do it in windows. You would restart to the cd, then use gparted to resize the partition
[19:23] <pelikan> oh, and i forgot to mention that it works on windows
[19:47] <tabbaraq> hi
[19:47] <slashtact> yo
[19:47] <tabbaraq> anyone have time to help me?
[19:48] <Slonkie> !question | tabbaraq
[19:48] <tabbaraq> sorry.
[19:48] <tabbaraq> How to configure my GRUB default boot option?
[19:49] <Slonkie> !grub
[19:50] <velcroshooz> what version of xfce is xubuntu running? 4.6.0?
[19:50] <SiDi> 9.04 runs 4.6.0
[19:50] <tabbaraq> CD says 8.10 :P
[19:50] <SiDi> others run 4.4
[19:50] <tabbaraq> so 4.4
[19:51] <SiDi> There is a PPA for 4.6.1 available (from hardy to jaunty)
[19:51] <velcroshooz> okay there were rumors of 4.6.1 in 9.04 thats why i asked
[19:51] <SiDi> its been packaged, i think
[19:51] <SiDi> but the process for updates during a release cycle is quite heavy
[19:51] <SiDi> anyways the PPA is working fine, im on it right now
[19:51] <tabbaraq> But, whit what program i can save the menu.lst file after i have configured it?
[19:52] <SiDi> https://launchpad.net/~jerome-guelfucci/+archive/ppa
[19:52] <SiDi> tabbaraq: just copy it
[19:52] <SiDi> tabbaraq: sudo cp /boot/grub/menu.lst /boot/grub/mycopyofmenu.lst
[19:54] <tabbaraq> I managed to get the thing through xterm
[19:54] <tabbaraq> so, bye and thanks
[19:54] <SiDi> you're welcome tabbaraq
[20:01] <slashtact> Does anyone know how the swappiness scale works?
[20:04]  * SiDi doesn't
[20:05] <charlie-tca> Don't lower numbers swap more?
[20:05] <slashtact> less
[20:06] <charlie-tca> try this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq
[20:06] <Ben_Cs> hello
[20:06] <slashtact> but there doesn't seem to be definitive information of what less means other than, well, less
[20:06] <Ben_Cs> i couldn't find how to setup an anonymous proxy server in xubuntu.
[20:06] <slashtact> !proxy
[20:07] <slashtact> :/
[20:07] <charlie-tca> Huh, there is this - Reducing the default value of swappiness will probably improve overall performance for a typical Ubuntu desktop installation.
[20:07] <charlie-tca> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq#Performance%20tuning%20with%20%27%27swappiness%27%27
[20:08] <slashtact> Yeah, I've been going through that and a mailing list where people are making points in both the direction of 100 swappiness and 10 swappiness
[20:09] <Ben_Cs> slashtact: do using Tor is the best way?
[20:10] <charlie-tca> slashtact: the f
[20:10] <charlie-tca> FAQ recommends 10 for desktops, 60 for servers. Might be a good starting point, anyway.
[20:12] <slashtact> Yeah, for a laptop with 3Gb and an average application load of 15% it doesn't make sense to me to be swapping out active applications for cache
[20:13] <charlie-tca> I think mine is set to 10, as I recall, before I changed it, the hard drive was going constantly
[20:14] <slashtact> Ben_Cs, I've never set up a local anon proxy, sorry
[20:16] <slashtact> Ben_Cs, if you are just looking to tunnel traffic, here is a good guide: http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2008/06/18/tunnel-web-and-dns-traffic-over-ssh/
[20:16] <slashtact> however, it requires that you have ssh access to a server outside of whatever network you are on
[20:24] <Ben_Cs> slashtact: does it also hide my ip?
[20:26] <slashtact> Ben_Cs, it proxies through whatever server you setup, so it will use the ip of the proxy server
[20:27] <Ben_Cs> slashtact: good. thanks. BTW how is it different than using normally a proxy server? only that the traffic is going through ssh?
[20:28] <slashtact> that's correct
[20:35] <Ben_Cs> good
[20:35] <Ben_Cs> thanks
[20:37] <slashtact> np
[20:38] <slashtact> you can also find most of the configuration information for tor on the tor website, however, it seems to have some latency issues
[20:42] <Ben_Cs> ok. but ssh tunneling is probably better
[20:43] <Ben_Cs> slashtact: i've started self learning ethical hacking. so first i want to protect myself
[20:44] <slashtact> Ben_Cs, ah, good luck with that, have you gone through lfs yet?
[20:45] <Ben_Cs> slashtact, nope, rhat's that? i only installed firestarter firewall
[20:47] <slashtact> Ben_Cs, lfs is the linux from scratch project, it walks you through compiling the linux kernel from scratch and then compiling basic packages and generally building linux
[20:48] <slashtact> Ben_Cs, if you really want to know how things work and where vulnerabilities might be I would suggest it as a starting point
[20:48] <Ben_Cs> slashtact: not Backtrack?
[20:49] <slashtact> Ben_Cs, it's up to you
[20:49] <slashtact> later
[20:58] <Slonkie> Anyone here been able to use exaile to tranfer music from harddrive -> iPod?
[21:13] <Shooree> my add/remove doesn't show anything on 8.10 how can I fix this?
[21:13] <Shooree> synaptic works as usual, though
[21:14] <SiDi> Make sure to select "All available apps"
[21:14] <SiDi> and category "All"
[21:14] <SiDi> and run "sudo apt-get update" in a console
[21:14] <Shooree> it is
[21:15] <Shooree> have tried that 20 times
[21:16] <Shooree> 21st time... nothing again
[21:17] <Shooree> any other suggestions?
[21:17] <SiDi> Bug report against gnome-app-install
[21:18] <Shooree> I don't think I know how to do that
[21:18] <Shooree> <-- noob, as as can be seen from the initial question
[21:18] <SiDi> Wait a second ;)
[21:18] <Shooree> sure. thx :)
[21:19] <SiDi> https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-app-install/+filebug
[21:19] <SiDi> I'm sorry for not being able to help you, but the guys who maintain it shall have a better idea. I personally only use aptitude :|
[21:20] <Shooree> right. thx. it worked alright, but something got messed up during the kernel upgrade and my system has been a bit wobbly ever since
[21:20] <SiDi> I see
[21:20] <SiDi> what if you do sudo aptitude reinstall gnome-app-install ?
[21:25] <Shooree> let me see
[21:28] <Shooree> yesh!
[21:28] <Shooree> worksies. thanks, SiDi!
[21:28] <Ben_Cs> how can i tunnel all my i-net traffic through ssh and proxy server?
[21:29] <SiDi> Shooree: you're welcome
[21:29] <SiDi> !tunnel
[21:30] <zoredache> Ben_Cs: usually you need to setup a vpn or something on the remote server to allow that
[21:31] <Ben_Cs> there's this manual: http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2008/06/18/tunnel-web-and-dns-traffic-over-ssh/   but it's only for browser
[21:33] <Slonkie> Anyone know the option to place conky in the left lower corner? :/
[21:33] <zoredache> yeah, if you want everything you really need a vpn...  A proxy works because it is designed to work with proxies.  Other applications may not know anything about proxies.
[21:34] <Ben_Cs> zoredache: isn't there a way to redirecat ALL my i-net traffic to a proxy?
[21:35] <zoredache> Ben_Cs: it depends on the proxy... usually, there is not
[21:35] <zoredache> most proxies servers only know http, and maybe ftp
[21:36] <Ben_Cs> zoredache: so how does a hacker become anonymous on all ports?
[21:36] <zoredache> they don't
[21:37] <xububu> hi - can anyone help with 9.04 and no sound icon in the top panel - and no sound
[21:37] <zoredache> or they hack a persons computer and then launch all the attacks from that computer... They will be able to trace things back to you though if they are patient enough
[21:38] <zoredache> or use open-wifi, library computers, internet cafees and so on...
[21:38] <Ben_Cs> zoredache: i see
[21:38] <zoredache> really this is not xubuntu releated and probably belongs elsewhere though....
[21:38] <SiDi> xububu: can you please open xfce4-mixer and tell me what you see ?
[21:38] <Ben_Cs> zoredache: actually i'm trying to make my xubuntu anonymous
[21:38] <SiDi> xububu: also please open a terminal, type "ps aux | grep pulse" and paste the result in http://paste.ubuntu;com
[21:39] <SiDi> xububu: also, right click a panel -> Add -> add a sound mixer back to it
[21:39] <xububu> hey SiDi -  hang on a second - (and thanks!)
[21:40] <TheSheep> SiDi: I think xubuntu doesn't use pulse by default
[21:40] <zoredache> Ben_Cs: the general purpose of this channel is desktop support...  You will get better results if you go to an appropriate channel.  Running Xubuntu doesn't make this the best channel to ask questions that aren't really related to xubuntu and apply to any linux system
[21:40] <SiDi> TheSheep: users coming from GNOME usually have it running
[21:41] <Ben_Cs> zoredache: ok thanks
[21:41] <TheSheep> I see
[21:41] <zoredache> I am not saying people won't be helpful here, I am just suggestion you can get better answers at locations that focus on things like that...
[21:41] <xububu> xfce4- mixer - master sound muted - have clicked on speaker to unmute master slider
[21:43] <SiDi> Do you have sound now ? :)
[21:46] <xububu> Hi Sidi - have just pasted output - no sound yet
[21:48] <SiDi> give me the link returned by the site, please ;)
[21:48] <xububu> SiDi -/ The Sheep - first thanks - and I cannot add the sound mixer to the panel - do i have to create a custom action or something
[21:49] <xububu> SiDi - http://paste.ubuntu.com/197286/ (sorry)
[21:49] <SiDi> alright
[21:49] <SiDi> "kill -9 4110 4111"
[21:49] <SiDi> it'll get rid of pulseaudio
[21:49] <SiDi> xububu: if you dont use GNOME / KDE anymore, i suggest you to uninstall PulseAudio
[21:49] <Slonkie> Anyone know the option to place conky in the left lower corner? :/
[21:49] <SiDi> It's not compatible with XFCE
[21:49] <xububu> will do
[21:51] <xububu> Using synaptic - and no , I just want xfce
[21:51] <xububu> sorry - using synaptic ? (it was a question)
[21:52] <SiDi> Yes if you want
[21:52] <SiDi> "sudo apt-get autoremove pulseaudio" will do iit too
[21:53] <xububu> sorry new to linux, had 8.10 and upgraded without thinking - how do you remove pulse at command line
[21:56] <xububu> mind reader
[21:57] <SiDi> kind of :p
[21:57] <SiDi> you were using GNOME before, right ?
[21:58] <xububu> Nope - but have stumbled blindly from one page to another before trying here
[21:58] <SiDi> I mean - how did you manage to have pulseaudio installed on your system ?
[21:59] <xububu> thats what i mean - several pages have recomended getting pulse to work, - i just followed the commands, but no joy
[22:00] <xububu> I ran xf4ce-mixer from terminal
[22:00] <SiDi> well, the mixer only works with gstreamer for now :)
[22:01] <xububu> and just to make it a little more difficult - this system is in spanish
[22:01] <xububu> You told me to add the mixer to the panel, but when i try, there is no app to add ¿?
[22:02] <xububu> pulse uninstalled, by the way
[22:03] <SiDi> http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/8969/capture3i.png
[22:03] <SiDi> Be right back
[22:06] <xububu> ok
[22:07] <xububu> Well SiDi - I'm a prat :P , and sound is now working - thankyou very much -
[22:10] <SiDi> xububu: you're welcome
[22:12] <xububu> Well - I'm happy as larry
[22:13] <xububu> And next I have a problem, I will start here - au-revoir,adios and good night!
[22:14] <SiDi> adios xububu ;)
[23:18] <wbc> Hello
[23:18] <wbc> Xubuntu have a lot of different ISO's on their homepage, which one should I download?
[23:20] <SiDi> Its the same, just hosted on different places :)
[23:20] <SiDi> grab the one near your home
[23:20] <SiDi> Ubuntu 9.04 32bits will do for you
[23:20] <SiDi> (desktop)
[23:20] <wbc> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/9.04/release/
[23:20] <SiDi> Take the first one
[23:21] <wbc> SiDi: Thanks again, hehe
[23:21] <SiDi> ;)
[23:21] <SiDi> woot, karmic alpha 2 boots
[23:23] <forces> wbc, use the desktop cd if you are ensure
[23:23] <forces> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/9.04/release/xubuntu-9.04-desktop-i386.iso
[23:23] <SiDi> thats exactly the one i pointed him too ;)