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RenatoSilvado you use bzr-email for notification on branch changes?01:41
RenatoSilvaif not, what do you use instead?01:41
wgrantRenatoSilva: They use their own thing. Not a bzr plugin.01:42
RenatoSilvaok01:45
RenatoSilvait would be nice if you could upload a zipped branch in Launchpad02:09
thumperRenatoSilva: why?02:10
thumperRenatoSilva: the email out of LP was originally copied from bzr-email02:10
RenatoSilvathumper: I've heard of another option with mail template, do you know any?02:12
thumperRenatoSilva: I'm not quite sure I understand what you are asking02:13
RenatoSilvaabout zip: in case of you can't push02:13
RenatoSilvaa better option to bzr-email02:14
RenatoSilvaalso, a suggestion: push through zip upload02:14
thumperRenatoSilva: we have some work around emailing merge directives to launchpad02:14
thumperRenatoSilva: right now we can make a new branch from a merge directive02:14
thumperRenatoSilva: but this also proposes for merging02:14
thumperRenatoSilva: it pulls in the changes from the directive02:15
RenatoSilvaI don't get you02:15
thumpera merge directive is what you go when you say `bzr send`02:16
thumpera bundle is an text representation of some revisions02:16
thumpera merge directive contains the revision bundle by default02:16
thumperyou can email a new branch to LP and propose it for merging with a single email02:17
RenatoSilvaoh02:17
RenatoSilvaso I send an email with the patch and it creates a branch?02:19
RenatoSilvaor merges02:19
thumperRenatoSilva: right now it needs to be a merge directive, not a patch02:20
thumperRenatoSilva: and it has some error edge cases right now that aren't handled particularly well02:20
RenatoSilvaok it's better wait02:22
RenatoSilvabut can't I upload a directive?02:23
RenatoSilvaby form02:23
thumperno, just email02:23
RenatoSilvaok02:27
RenatoSilvais bazaar.conf fetched when I bzr branch lp:*?02:27
RenatoSilvaI want to use bzr-email at work, bring branch home, stop using bzr-email, work, commit, and push02:27
thumpernot sure02:29
RenatoSilva#bzr confirmed: no02:41
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RenatoSilvaI would like to try sending a merge proposal to launchpad, how can I do it?03:06
RenatoSilvaHow should I save the bzr send? I put a .patch extension03:06
spivRenatoSilva: https://help.launchpad.net/Code/Review#Email%20interface03:06
RenatoSilvathe branch is amnually created?03:14
RenatoSilvaif approved03:14
RenatoSilvaI thought it was automated03:14
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DBOdoes LP update merge diffs if the merge gets new revisions pushed to it after the merge is proposed?06:18
mwhudsonno06:25
mwhudsonnot yet, anyway06:25
DBOthank you06:25
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RenatoSilvabzr branch lp:bzr-email: FATAL ERROR: Disconnected: No supported authentication methods available06:32
RenatoSilvacan't I branch as anonymous after a lp-login?06:33
jmarsdenRenatoSilva: I think you can't "undo" the lp-login easily, you have to edit or rm a file or two under .bzr/ before it will use http to access the repository.  Someone was discussing this eitehr here on on #ubuntu-motu a few days ago I think.06:39
RenatoSilvajmarsden: thanks for the info at least06:39
RenatoSilvajmarsden: something like bzr branch --annonymous, and bzr lp-logout would be nice06:40
jmarsdenRenatoSilva: Yes.  I think just bzr lp-logout would be sufficient.06:43
RenatoSilva bug 34914306:44
ubottuLaunchpad bug 349143 in bzr "no lp-logout command" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/34914306:44
jmarsdenYou found it :)  Loosk like you can rm ~/.bazaar/authentication.conf and edit your launchpad username out of ~/.bazaar/bazaar.conf to get the desired effect.  But that's hard to remember :)06:47
RenatoSilva:)06:56
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RenatoSilvawhat's Status Whiteboard for branches bug linking?07:20
kikoRenatoSilva, just somewhere to put status information07:21
RenatoSilvaok07:22
kikoyou can use it as you see fit -- it's a whiteboard, so no parsing is done of it07:22
RenatoSilvaok07:24
persiaHello.  I've been told that some people get reject messages for unsigned uploads to a PPA and some people don't.  I'd expect nobody to get any error messages because Soyuz wouldn't be able to figure out if it was a forged upload.  Does anyone know which is the correct behaviour?07:34
robin_bzr: ERROR: Invalid url supplied to transport: "lp:~scut-tang/mysql-server/mysql-6.0-infoschema": The remote branch at ~scut-tang/mysql-server/mysql-6.0-infoschema has no URL specified.07:38
robin_what is wrong? The bug 382795 has not be fixed yet?07:40
ubottuLaunchpad bug 382795 in launchpad-code "mirror-branch using too much memory" [Critical,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/38279507:40
robin_But I can't push my branch still?07:40
spivrobin_: it's apparently a remote branch, not a hosted one.07:43
spivrobin_: but weirdly, it's a remote branch with no remote URL set.07:43
spivjml: ^ any idea?07:43
jmlspiv, plenty of idea :)07:44
jmlrobin_, hi07:44
robin_spiv: ?with no remote url set?07:44
robin_jml: ah?07:44
spivrobin_: my guess is that what you want to do is delete that branch (via the web UI) and then push it, assuming you want that branch hosted on launchpad.07:44
jmlrobin_, I'm in the middle of a few things right now. Please give me a moment.07:45
robin_jml: ok07:45
kikorobin_, what spiv said, though it's weird that you ended up in that situation -- maybe rename it and we can look at it later07:45
robin_ok, I try to delete it in the web UI, and push it again.07:45
jmlso07:47
spivrobin_: did you create that branch via the "Register a branch" web page?07:47
jmlspiv, kiko: this was the branch that caused the memory crisis last week07:47
robin_spiv: no, I push it directly.07:47
jmlwe manually hacked it to be remote in order to make sure it didn't take down our servers.07:47
kikoah.07:48
kikoah yes07:48
kikorobin_, how long does it take to push that branch?07:48
robin_kiko: long time-_-!07:48
spivjml: ah!07:48
robin_kiko:  I delete the branch, and push it now. It works and is transferring.07:49
kikorobin_, you know, you might want to wait a few minutes until we decide if we are going to roll an update to codehosting in the next hour07:49
kikobecause we'll have to do a bounce07:49
kikoif spm agrees to it :)07:49
robin_kiko: I am pushing it.  Is it ok?07:49
kikorobin_, you may have to abort and restart if we manage to convince spm to re-roll, just that07:51
robin_kiko: ok. I stop it. When I can push it again? I wait for it for 2 weeks~~07:52
kikorobin_, hang on there07:52
robin_kiko: ok07:54
kikorobin_, we're not rolling out now. how much time is "long time" when you said that above?07:55
kikodays?07:55
robin_kiko: I am not sure. May be several hours.07:56
robin_kiko: I run the push command and left computer.07:57
kikorobin_, soon we'll have you testing bzr 2.0 format which should be a big difference?07:57
robin_kiko: ok. Tell me how to do it is fine.07:58
robin_kiko: But I hope it can work as soon as possible.07:59
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Saviqdanilos: you around?09:11
Peng_Ohh, branch descriptions are back? Yay!09:21
Peng_Is it possible to trigger a full remirror? Without having to learn the API? It's just a silly, 1 MB test branch, but I realized that lp:~mnordhoff/+junk/pytz-2008f.dev6rr was badly packed.10:11
kikoPeng_, I'm not sure what you're asking -- is this a remote branch we are mirroring?10:13
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Peng_kiko: Yeah. I'd like it to be remirrored from scratch, since the current one isn't very optimal. Anyway, it doesn't matter. I'm abandoning that branch.10:23
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Peng_If LP is having problems mirroring a branch, where should I bring it up? Here? Answers?10:40
intellectronicaPeng_: best is to file a question10:55
Peng_intellectronica: ok10:55
wgrantWhy does the bugtask table not replace the stock product/distro icons with the customised branding, if any?11:56
intellectronicainteresting question11:56
wgrantIt would be nice to just be able to glance at the table and seek immediately to the right task.11:57
intellectronicai can give it a try, since i'm anyway working on redoing it, but i somehow doubt it will look good or be helpful11:57
wgrantHm, OK.11:57
intellectronicayeah, it's definitely worth a try11:57
wgrantWhat are you doing to it? AJAXing?11:57
intellectronicayup11:57
wgrantNice.11:58
wgrantExcept for the whole JS thing.11:58
intellectronicawhat do you mean?11:58
wgrantCoding JS == pain11:58
intellectronicai mean, it's a nightmare to develop using JS, but is it a problem for you as a user?11:58
intellectronicaoh, you bet!11:58
wgrantNo, no.11:59
wgrantAs long as it works, which Launchpad's seems to in general.11:59
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Scurzhey12:46
Scurzin a team, for a mailing list, the team's admin can't subscribe himself all team's members ?12:48
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rodrigo_hi13:07
rodrigo_I'm trying to build a new version of json-glib in my PPA, but want to copy the source package for karmic, so where do I copy it from? (as it's said in https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA#Copying%20packages)13:08
rodrigo_'Copy packages' link on my PPA just allows me to copy from my PPA to somewhere else13:08
wgrantrodrigo_: You can select the same PPA on that page.13:09
bigjools-afkrodrigo_: you need to re-upload it if you want to change the package, otherwise there's no need to copy from Ubuntu itself13:09
wgrantOh, I see. From real Karmic.13:09
rodrigo_right, but I want to have the latest for karmic, and just update that13:09
rodrigo_(or should I just use apt-get source?13:10
bigjools-afkrodrigo_: if you're changing the source package, yes, apt-get source, modify, upload13:10
rodrigo_ok13:10
bigjools-afkcopying just re-publishes the same stuff that's already published elsewhere13:10
rodrigo_ah13:11
aboudreaultIf a package doesn't require any modification between hardy,intrepid,jaunty.13:13
aboudreaultYou upload it in hardy. and copy binaries from hardy to intrepid and hardy to jaunty. ?13:14
aboudreaultand not the contrary ? (jaunty to intrepid ...)13:14
wgrantaboudreault: It's more likely to work going from Hardy.13:16
wgrantMuch more likely, in fact.13:16
bigjools-afkyep, in that respect it's similar to a new Ubuntu series13:16
aboudreaultyeah, that what i've noticed, if I build a package from jaunty...some dependency will have a higher version that needed.13:17
aboudreaultall right. just wanted to be sure :)13:17
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wgrantsinzui: What did you change the series display name to?13:30
sinzuiMozilla Firefox trunk series13:30
wgrantExcellent.13:30
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ondrejhi13:51
sanxiynHello, I am trying to set my location,13:51
ondreji would like to ask two things13:51
sanxiynand when I click Korea and "Update", location is set to Turkey.13:51
sanxiynWTF?13:51
ondrej1) is it possible to delete a project in launchpad?13:52
sanxiynondrej: https://help.launchpad.net/Projects/Closing13:52
sanxiyne.g. you need to file a request, and it's not automatic.13:53
kikosanxiyn, seriously?13:53
sanxiynkiko: You mean location? Yes 100% serious.13:54
sanxiynTry it yourself.13:54
kikosanxiyn, what URL are you at?13:54
sanxiynhttps://launchpad.net/~sanxiyn13:54
salgadosinzui, didn't you investigate something similar to what sanxiyn is describing?13:58
sinzuisalgado: apparently geonames believe Norwich UK is on the Kazakistan border13:59
sinzuisalgado: I believe the mismatch in timezones and names relates to the ancient pytz launchpad uses. I suspect the bug that Launchpad does not know Indian cities will also be fixed by updating pytz14:01
salgadohmmm14:02
ondrejsanxiyn, thanks14:03
ondrejand my second question:14:03
ondrejthere is a branch that is imported from cvs and gets updated regularly14:04
ondrejunfortunately, the devs of the original project don't like this14:04
ondrejso i would like to remove it, as i have initiated the whole thing14:05
sanxiynYes, I too think Launchpad VCS import is evil.14:05
ondrejthe question is, is there a way, when i keep my local branch, to update it from the original cvs?14:05
ondrejsanxiyn, i find it useful simply because working with cvs hurts compared to a modern vcs14:06
ondrejbut the project in question is not my call14:06
ondrejso i need to have it closed and the branch removed14:06
ondreji have created the project only because of the import14:07
kikosanxiyn, whyy do you think that?14:07
ondrejdevelopment take place elsewhere14:07
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kikoondrej, to be honest, that's a perfectly valid use of launchpad14:07
kikoondrej, we have lots of projects registered that don't use launchpad14:07
kikoand that are available so that people can track either code or bugs remotely14:07
ondrejkiko, i know. that's why i did it and found it perfectly fine. legal by gpl and everything14:08
kikoondrej, what project is that? I can get somebody to go and contact them.14:08
sanxiynkiko: It's one more place to check -- which people may not want.14:08
kikosanxiyn, to check.. for what?14:08
sanxiynkiko: You know how controversial Launchpad's translations are?14:08
sanxiynPeople translate on Launchpad, which is wasted, since that's not coordinated with upstream translation, etc.14:09
kikosanxiyn, I know there is controversy in many things, from wikipedia to gmail to launchpad translations, yes14:09
sanxiynSame for VCS import (if it's not intentional.)14:09
kikosanxiyn, so, two things14:09
ondrejsanxiyn, exactly their argument, they want to keep it central. i don't thing a mirror of the repo breaks that, but i am not in a position to argue14:09
ondrejit's called cp2k14:09
ondrejhttp://cp2k.berlios.de14:09
kikosanxiyn, VCS imports are completely read-only, so I don't quite understand what the comparison with translations is there14:09
sanxiynondrej: I do think it's their call (not to speak of I agree with them)14:09
sanxiynlol VCS import is read-only :)14:10
kikosanxiyn, as for translations, that is true for /upstream/ translations, but there's a set of mechanisms to ensure that the right policy is advertised and applied there14:10
ondrejsanxiyn, i agree. therefore i do not want to argue and want to have it fixed.14:10
kikosanxiyn, for distributions like ubuntu, the requirements are a bit different14:10
ondrejmy opinion is besides the point.14:10
sanxiynkiko: Yes, I do understand it has improved (right policy advertised etc)14:11
sanxiynOn the other hand, initial implementation was very distasteful.14:11
ondrejstill, i like to work with bzr much more than cvs14:11
kikoondrej, I'm going to talk to somebody about contacting cp2k; ping kfogel when he is around about this and him and I will see what to do14:11
ondrejand would therefore like to keep the ability to see a read-only bzr version of the original cvs repo14:11
ondrejkiko, i would really like to avoid trying to convince them14:12
ondreji have already talked to them14:12
ondrejand been told it was discussed internally14:12
kikoondrej, I guess my point is that they can't actually ask for it to be removed IYKWIM14:14
ondrejalthough the license of the code allows me to do what i have done and much more, i would like to avoid anything that the devs find problematic, even if it is for reasons i don't agree with14:14
kikoondrej, if you find it useful, then it's hard to argue for getting it removed14:14
kikoand the process in this situation is for us to contact them14:14
ondrejkiko, i totally agree. formally, it is sound.14:14
ondrejkiko, if you really want to get into this, then the right place is the mailing list at google groups: http://groups.google.com/group/cp2k14:17
kikoyeah14:17
kikothanks!14:17
ondrejbut please note that i really advice against this14:17
ondrejkiko, see also my original announcement: http://groups.google.com/group/cp2k/browse_thread/thread/ba88294ae132314e#14:18
ondreji have also talked privately with fawzi about this14:18
ondrejnow to get back to the technical point: is there a way to update the imported branch locally?14:20
kikoondrej, you can probably run cscvs locally14:20
kikoI have never tried this, but it's open source: launchpad.net/launchpad-cscvs14:20
wgrantkiko: I made the mistake of trying to run cscvs once...14:24
wgrantkiko: It's not fun.14:24
kikoyou can say that again14:25
ondrejwgrant, exactly my experience14:25
ondrejthat's the reason i ask :-)14:25
ondreji know it should be possible *in principle*14:25
wgrantFor Subversion or Git it's easy, as there are good bzr plugins for those.14:25
ondreji would appreciate a howto or a pointer to what command actually runs at the servers upon import14:26
ondrejwgrant, unfortunately, it's cvs in this case14:26
kikoondrej, at the server? cscvs works completely remotely from the server14:27
ondrejkiko, i mean launchpad servers14:28
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ondreji assume you need cscvs, a local branch and a remote cvs repo14:28
kikoondrej, ah. the best person to ask would be mwhudson to be honest14:29
ondrejkiko, ok, thanks. he did the original import, as there were some trouble. i'll try to ask him.14:29
kikothanks14:30
kikoI'll talk to karl as soon as I'm back14:30
kikolaters!14:30
ondrejthanks, bye...14:30
ondrejmwhudson, are you here?14:42
wgrantondrej: It's 2am where he is.14:43
wgrantSo I hope not.14:43
abentleyPeng_: We mirror on a logical level, not a per-file level.  The amount of packing in the source isn't relevant.14:44
ondrejwgrant, ah, thanks for the sanity check, missed that :-)14:44
slaytonI'm trying to build a package on launchpad but it keeps failing, here is the log http://tinyurl.com/me2m2c here are the relavant lines: http://paste2.org/p/269016  what I don't get is when I build the package on my local machine using the debs hosted in the repository the package builds fine...15:25
slaytonit appears that the build machine on launchpad isn't recognizing that dbus-c++ of the packages is installed, but dbus-c++ contains the correct pkconfig file and I have verified that it gets installed in the correct place on my local machine15:26
slaytonthe only way i can replicate the bug on my local machine is to uninstall dbus-c++15:26
slaytonbut looking at the build log dbus-c++ is clearly being installed during the build process15:26
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geserslayton: are are the dependencies of the .pc file available?16:38
slaytongeser, it appears that they are... the only thing required by dbus-c++ is dbus-1 which appears to be installed during the build process16:43
geserbut not libdbus-1-dev which contains the .pc file referenced in your .pc file16:44
slaytonah.... ok I'll add that thanks16:46
geserslayton: and I'm not sure if pkg-config will find dbus-c++ if the file is named dbus-c++-1.pc (you can try if "pkg-config --libs dbus-c++" works)16:47
slaytongeser, so I  guess I need to rename the package dbus-c++-116:50
geserslayton: I don't have much experience with pkg-config so better check yourself how the file should be named (and what else is needed) that pkg-config will find your lib and your build moves further16:52
slaytongeser, ok great. I really appreciate your help16:52
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slaytonHmm.... for some reason my amd64 package doesn't build but the lpia and i386 packages build just fine... the build process is failing on dh_shlibdps, here is the build log http://tinyurl.com/nvg2s6  and here are the relavent build lines: http://paste2.org/p/269107   why would I get this error on amd64 and not on the other 2 build systems17:18
Sam-I-Amslayton: is there a ppa dependency thats missing its amd64 build?17:38
bigjoolsI'm no expert on this, but it looks like the package needs another build dependency for amd6417:41
Scurzin a team, for a mailing list, the team's admin can't subscribe himself all team's members ?17:43
bigjoolsbarry: ^17:45
bigjoolsor abentley? --^ (since you're on call)17:53
barryScurz: no.  team members must subscribe themselves17:57
Scurzokay17:57
slaytonSam-I-Am, no all of the packages are present under amd6418:19
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abentleyrockstar: skype?18:30
rockstarabentley, sure.18:30
slaytonbigjools, what do you mean by " it looks like the package needs another build dependency for amd64"18:52
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slaytoncan anybody explain to me why a build might fail on amd64 but not on lpia or i386?  all the dependencies are either in the ubuntu repos or the ppa... and all of the other amd64 .debs built fine19:25
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kklimondahmm.. is it a feature that when I push a packaging branch to LP it links to all bugs it closes?21:59
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Peng_abentley: This is a dev6rr branch. If the source branch is not optimally compressed (I forgot to pack after upgrading), doesn't bzr copy that verbatim? If it does in fact recompress it, the LP branch is twice as large as it should be for some other reason. :\23:17
thumperkklimonda: yes23:51
kklimondathumper: is it helpful? packaging branch doesn't actually have a fix for a bug itself.23:51
thumperwell...23:52
thumperit should only link to branches where there is a mainline revision that says --fixes lp:1234523:53
thumperit may be that we have to change our linking criteria23:53
kklimondawhen you use debcommit to commit a change to package it uses --fixes lp:1234523:53
thumperah23:54
thumperkklimonda: if it fixes a bug?23:54
kklimondayes23:54
thumperwell, if it isn't useful, then we need to work it out :)23:54
kklimondamaybe i'm using it wrong (it being bzr for packaging the way I use it, lp for publishing changes or something else ;) )? that's my branch: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~kklimonda/transmission/ubuntu23:56
* thumper takes a look23:56
Peng_If my question gets turned into a bug, should I mark the question as solved or leave it open until the bug is fixed?23:57
thumperPeng: no idea23:57
Peng_thumper: :D23:57
thumperkklimonda: perhaps we need to change the linking so if the bug is fix commtted or fix released, we don't link ?23:57
Peng_I should check my old answermail to see what other people do.23:57
thumperkklimonda: file a bug about the behaviour, what you are doing, and what you'd like to happen :)23:58
kklimondathumper: thanks23:59
kklimondai'll do it23:59

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