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| ttx | Hey guys, I have an armel build failure at: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/wesnoth/1:1.6.2-1ubuntu1/+build/1079861 | 08:57 |
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| ttx | Boils down to "configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables" | 08:57 |
| ttx | Any hint on how I could debug that ? | 08:57 |
| kblin | no c compiler installed? | 08:57 |
| ttx | kblin: that's on an armel buildd so I suppose there is build-essential installed :) | 08:58 |
| persia | Maybe related to the recent binutils upload? I heard a rumour that there were increased build failures on all non-x86 hardware. | 08:58 |
| kblin | good point, I see the line where gcc 4 is installed | 08:58 |
| kblin | doesn't the ubuntu build system do something like "cat config.log" if configure fails? | 08:59 |
| ttx | kblin: unfortunately, not :) | 08:59 |
| persia | Adding cat config.log would be something someone could do in debian/rules to debug something. | 08:59 |
| kblin | because that's where I'd start | 08:59 |
| ttx | persia/kblin: I'll see if the rumour confirms itself and if not, do some debian/rules instrumentation in my PPA | 09:00 |
| ttx | thanks | 09:00 |
| persia | ttx, If your PPA has non-x86 :) | 09:01 |
| persia | Otherwise, I'd recommend looking for some hardware or virtualisation environment. | 09:01 |
| kblin | qemu-arm works ok.. | 09:01 |
| persia | (it shouldn't take that long to get to ./configure, even in low memory-limited qemu-system-arm) | 09:01 |
| ttx | ok, I'll look into that. | 09:01 |
| kblin | if you get past the random installer hangs | 09:02 |
| kblin | though I didn't try 9.10 there | 09:02 |
| ttx | looking at the buildd logs at https://launchpad.net/builders/nageia/+history it might just make sense to retry the build. | 09:04 |
| ttx | all builds are currently failing | 09:05 |
| kblin | ouch | 09:05 |
| kblin | I agree, given that all of those fail a couple of minutes into the build, with configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables :) | 09:06 |
| lool | ogra: build-arm-rootfs is a huge success; I keep reading about it in various places; I wish it would become a real project though: source code control, new features, bug reports and the like | 12:13 |
| ogra | its in the works | 12:14 |
| lool | ogra: Could you make that happen? I'm happy to contribute if it's in some shared place | 12:14 |
| ogra | i'm currently pondering how to integrate oem-config properly | 12:14 |
| ogra | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/mobile-arm-karmic-offline-installer-gui :) | 12:14 |
| ogra | i want to get over the script in the qemu instance and use proper tools ... | 12:15 |
| ogra | i'll put a branch up today | 12:15 |
| ogra | and prepare a package before end of the week | 12:15 |
| lool | Ok, cool | 12:19 |
| lool | ogra: e.g. 53052.124.124.219.226.1245156274.squirrel@iwavesystems.com | 12:21 |
| lool | ogra: With time, I'm starting to think we could use an ubuntu-arm@ ML, and perhaps a LP team | 12:22 |
| lool | We have a release out of the door, will support more SoCs and get more enthusiasts over time which use Ubuntu as a base | 12:22 |
| ogra | yeah, fully agreed | 12:23 |
| ogra | i'm getting chased down by a guy on ubuntu-users@ about his arm probs since weeks, he alone would have filled such a list since UDS :) | 12:24 |
| ogra | lool, there you go https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-arm-roofs-builder ... i'll create a maintainer team (or hand it to a newly created LP ubuntu-arm team) later | 12:33 |
| ogra | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-arm-roofs-builder/trunk will have it with the next publisher run (i already pushed) | 12:34 |
| lool | ogra: Hmm consider naming things without ARM | 12:35 |
| * ogra sees lool answered savita on ubuntu-devel ... | 12:35 | |
| lool | ogra: only to one of the two questions | 12:36 |
| ogra | he is the guy i try to educate on ubuntu-users i mentioned above | 12:36 |
| ogra | yes, i answered all of his questions several times already | 12:36 |
| ogra | he asks them over and over and doesnt understand | 12:36 |
| lool | That sucks | 12:36 |
| ogra | yeah | 12:37 |
| ogra | well, thats the nature of ubuntu-users@ .... i asked him several times to come here, but he didnt find his way yet | 12:37 |
| ogra | in a one to one IRC conversation i'm sure he would get his imx31 system up and running fast | 12:38 |
| lool | ogra: Back to ubuntu-arm-roofs-builder, I think the approach would work very well with other use cases such as mips or even i386, so it would be nice to not use arm in the name :) | 12:38 |
| * lool lunch & | 12:38 | |
| ogra | well, its initially written for armel only :) | 12:38 |
| ogra | i can rename it if qemu grows support for other arches we support with it | 12:39 |
| ogra | (usb-imagewriter supports SD cards too, but i wouldnt rename it to be just imagewriter (to generic) or usb-and-sd-imagewriter (to long)) :) | 12:41 |
| playya | sometimes its better to post in on a ML. then the recipient can read it again and again | 12:53 |
| lool | ogra: qemu-system-<tab> :) | 12:56 |
| lool | ogra: The thing is that it's going to be hard to rename later when it's referenced, and it's not hard to make it generic | 12:57 |
| ogra | lool, any suggestions ? | 13:25 |
| ogra | playya, well, he asks the same question within five mails he sends within 15min at that speed IRC is more convenient | 13:26 |
| ogra | grmbl, indeed you can change everything but the url of the LP project | 13:31 |
| lool | ogra: Well rootfs-builder, or some cool project name | 13:32 |
| lool | argo! | 13:33 |
| ogra | so should i register a new project ? | 13:33 |
| lool | ogra: I think you can rename it | 13:33 |
| ogra | argo? | 13:33 |
| ogra | i can rename everything but the initial url i picked | 13:33 |
| playya | assisted rootfs gold obtainer | 13:33 |
| lool | ogra: Yeah, just a code name, and as you started it, agro sounded good :) | 13:33 |
| ogra | heh | 13:34 |
| playya | can some of you poke the bzr guys to implement git import, please. | 13:34 |
| ogra | pfft git | 13:35 |
| lool | Another Rootfs Growing Oddball | 13:35 |
| lool | playya: That's done? | 13:35 |
| ogra | lool, i can change everything in the details page, but not the project url, so i need to create a new one or leave the url but change the rest | 13:35 |
| lool | ogra: Really? | 13:36 |
| ogra | yeah | 13:36 |
| playya | lool, i can't pull git sources into LP | 13:36 |
| ogra | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-arm-roofs-builder/+edit doesnt offer to change "ubuntu-arm-roofs-builder" | 13:36 |
| playya | and i want to have several projects. not only branches *hides* | 13:37 |
| ogra | playya, no, you need to convert the git tree to something sane (i.e. bzr) and then you can push | 13:37 |
| lool | playya: I think you can now | 13:37 |
| lool | ogra: I think it's a separate action, like rename project | 13:37 |
| lool | ogra: Otherwise, you can simply file a question to ask for the change | 13:38 |
| playya | ok. I'll test it when i finished the debian dirs for the core stuff | 13:38 |
| lool | https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/8299 example | 13:38 |
| * ogra checks | 13:38 | |
| lool | Crap, I can't easily find a project I own | 13:39 |
| lool | Ulteo PC Virtualization Seminars: ?550 for the whole day | 13:42 |
| lool | 550 EUR! | 13:42 |
| ogra | fun | 13:42 |
| ogra | how about "jarb" | 13:46 |
| ogra | (just a rootfs builder" :) | 13:46 |
| playya | or just another ... | 13:48 |
| ogra | jaurb probably, since its written for ubuntu only (yet) | 13:49 |
| lool | ogra: Well argo had the advantage of being ogra in reverse ;-) | 13:49 |
| ogra | yeah, but no meaning at all :) | 13:50 |
| lool | I like jarb | 13:50 |
| playya | is anyone working on a graphical image builder? | 13:50 |
| lool | Simple, short, to the point, catchy | 13:50 |
| ogra | jarb is an abbreviation :) | 13:50 |
| lool | I hope it's not an insult in some language | 13:50 |
| ogra | playya, i am :) https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/mobile-arm-karmic-offline-installer-gui | 13:50 |
| lool | playya: See, that's the kind of things we could do if we had some common project | 13:50 |
| lool | I personally thought it would rock to have it in python, or integrated in uvb, but this is all rather futuristic ;) | 13:51 |
| ogra | yeah, and really a lot crappy overhead | 13:51 |
| playya | vala vala vala | 13:52 |
| ogra | i want a gui to select the options and then it should launch oem-config from inside qemu | 13:52 |
| ogra | and i dont want to rewrite it in python :) | 13:52 |
| * ogra considers calling it kxvlpm03582 ... thats surely not an insult in any language :) | 13:54 | |
| ogra | and as good to pronounce as the renamed screen-profile project :) | 13:55 |
| ogra | which gets me an idea ... persia any nice japanese suggestion for naming ubuntu-arm-roofs-builder ? | 13:58 |
| ogra | (japanese seems to be the current hype) | 13:59 |
| playya | call it anata wa rootf builder | 14:00 |
| playya | if i remember my japanese course correctly | 14:00 |
| ogra | awrb ? | 14:00 |
| dpb | awrb sounds like something written in ruby | 14:02 |
| ogra | awrb.sh :) | 14:02 |
| lool | argh no, not .sh! | 14:03 |
| ogra | argh ... "arm rootfs generation helper" | 14:06 |
| ogra | ;) | 14:07 |
| ogra | or s/arm/another/ ... as you like | 14:07 |
| persia | ogra, 根作 (but I'm not sure how to pronounce it) | 15:05 |
| ogra | is there an utf8 able equivalent i can use for LP ? | 15:06 |
| * persia tries a couple things | 15:06 | |
| persia | nesaku probably isn't horridly wrong. | 15:07 |
| ogra | sounds good | 15:08 |
| ogra | what does it mean exactly ? | 15:08 |
| persia | Meaning is roughly "The harvesting of the source/basis" or "root build" | 15:08 |
| ogra | perfect | 15:08 |
| ogra | lool, ^^^^^ | 15:08 |
| persia | Copy it to http://www.csse.monash.edu.au/~jwb/cgi-bin/wwwjdic.cgi?1B for a closer gloss. | 15:09 |
| persia | it's not a normal compound, just one I cobbled up (so not an actual Japanese word or anything) | 15:09 |
| persia | ogra, Do let me know if you're seriously considering it: I'll ask in #ubuntu-jp | 15:19 |
| ogra | well, sounds better than all former suggestions yet | 15:20 |
| ogra | lool seems asleep though ... or has no opinion ... | 15:20 |
| persia | asleep at this hour? | 15:20 |
| ogra | heh | 15:20 |
| lool | a) I'm not asleep, just deep in a context and avoiding switches :-) b) I'm getting a headache c) I disable beeping anyway! | 15:57 |
| lool | ogra: A non-feature-bound term is fine by me! | 15:58 |
| ogra | so lets go with "nesaku" | 15:58 |
| lool | As long as you don't name the project ogra's-arm-and-ubuntu-only-shell-rootfs-tarball-builder, it's going to work | 15:59 |
| ogra | nah, that would be to short | 15:59 |
| ogra | but probably nesaku.sh ? | 15:59 |
| * ogra hides | 15:59 | |
| lool | Nice try | 16:01 |
| ogra | :) | 16:01 |
| persia | ogra, Let me see if anyone in jp is still awake, to avoid making a silly mistake. | 16:12 |
| persia | ogra, #ubuntu-jp folk say not to use that name. It creates a reminder of farmers in olden times. I have no good suggestions. | 16:40 |
| lool | ogra: nesaku-(not-the-old-farmers) | 16:41 |
| persia | heh. No. | 16:41 |
| ogra | heh | 16:41 |
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