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thorwilarg.18:02
thorwilhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Karmic/Earthubuntu18:02
kwwiioh my18:08
kwwiiLinux for Hummans18:08
thorwilkwwii: i bet the earth parts are from an image with non-permissive/no license18:11
kwwiithorwil: lol, yeah18:12
thorwilkwwii: let me add a comment to that effect on that page. now that i fought my urge to simply delete that page18:13
kwwiihehe, go ahead18:14
thorwilkwwii: which reminds me, i told the author of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Karmic/UbuntuLogoCurved that that is going nowhere and that he should remove it18:14
thorwilwell, he didn't18:15
kwwiiit is a blatant attempt at rebranding, which we don't allow anyway18:15
kwwiiright, same thing18:15
kwwiiessentially, people should not be changing the logo18:15
kwwiias that is breaking our trademark18:16
thorwilkwwii: logocurved deleted. added comment on earthubuntu and will give the author the chance to read it and delete the page himself before i do it18:24
thorwili wonder if i should worry less about being seen as mean/elitist/control-freak whatever18:26
kwwiithorwil: well, to some extent we do have to watch out for that..people get their feelings hurt easily19:52
kwwiibut as long as it is done correctly, and nicely, I do not see any harm in it, as it weeds out the less useful stuff19:52
macvrthorwil: regarding the earth logo ... i dont like the logo... but  wouldnt the earth part looked a tad better is it didnt have the jagged edges?20:05
thorwilmacvr: sure, but why bother?20:06
macvrjust out of curiosity, to know whats wrong with something... so that i dont do similar mistakes :P20:06
thorwilheh20:07
macvrBTW whre is the curved karmic logo url?20:07
macvrwhere^20:07
thorwilmacvr: it's gone20:07
macvralready deleted?20:07
thorwilyes20:07
macvraw... wanted to have a look at that too...  have you seen the new version of the devil smiley?20:08
thorwilmacvr: if you know the url of a deleted page, you can go there. the wiki tells you the page doesn't exist, but if you click on "Info", you get the history20:09
thorwilmacvr: like this one: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Karmic/UbuntuLogoCurved?action=info20:09
macvrcool... didnt know that!20:09
thorwilwell, i researched that before i started deleting pages right and left ;)20:10
macvr... man you are picky :P20:11
macvrbut kinda good ...20:11
thorwilmacvr, michote the gradient on the devil emotes matches that of the yellow ones really well now20:12
macvryeah20:13
thorwilthe horns look like made form a slightly different material, though20:13
macvri like the glasses too, but maybe the mouth should be brown instead of green?20:13
thorwilthe teeth on devil-sad need a little shading20:13
thorwilmacvr: the mouth?20:15
macvrfor the face-glasses... he has used green for the mouth... that makes the smiley kinda have a green shade... felt if it was brown, i might be better?20:16
macvri/it/20:16
thorwilmacvr: oh, yes20:17
macvr:)20:17
macvrregarding the horns... how could he improve it?... have the red shade merge with the surrounding?20:18
thorwilmacvr: i though the mouth was almost-but-not-quite-black, but very neutral until you claimed it was green. but now in inkscape i see it's #24221cff20:20
thorwilnot green20:20
thorwilmacvr: i'd try copying the horn shape, make it a bit smaller, narrower, apply the brightest color from the face gradient and blur20:21
macvr^ this is why i had suggested to come to the irc...20:22
macvrthorwil: only now i checked, the stroke is #082008ff , drak green... which kinda makes the whole thing feel green for me!20:23
thorwilmacvr: oh, you mean the dimple. yes, has a green tendency20:25
macvrthorwil: also ... cory had asked me to make some changes with the 128 px smileys... i just seem to make them glossy... any suggestions how to make the right?20:25
macvrthorwil: not the dimple... the mouth has the green stroke with the grey fill20:26
thorwilmacvr: the smilies i now see on the wiki are not glossy20:27
thorwilnot even close to20:27
thorwilso i don't know what Cory wants there20:27
macvrno the ones... the adjustments i make on my system, to improve them i just tend to get glossy, away from the feel of the wiki ones20:28
thorwilmacvr: you already made them. you know how to make them either way ;)20:28
macvri believe , i was just drawing your thoughts :P20:29
macvrthorwil: http://files.getdropbox.com/u/1325768/smiley1.png ... this is the present WIP for smirk... any comments?20:30
thorwilmacvr: left eyes shape is freaky20:30
macvrwell for smirk... that seems to be how several smileys are done :(...20:31
macvrthorwil: this is the gnome one http://files.getdropbox.com/u/1325768/face-smirk.png20:32
thorwilmacvr: try this as reference: http://www.solarnavigator.net/films_movies_actors/actors_films_images/Steve_Martin_famous_smirk.jpg20:33
macvrhow do i translate that!!!! you are kidding right!20:33
macvri think he is smiling rather than a smirk20:34
thorwilmacvr: no, not really. every normal smiley has at its core a real facial expression20:34
macvr^that is correct20:35
macvrbut smirk is a smug expression... its not a friendly smile, but rather a kinda "i know it better" smile20:36
macvrthorwil: to smile in an affected, smug, or offensively familiar way <20:37
macvrsteve's smile is more pleasant to me :)20:38
thorwilwhat can i say, it shows to be hard to find good material20:38
thorwilhttp://harmonscottfineart.com/files/the-smirk.jpg20:38
thorwilhttp://images.veer.com/IMG/TILL/CYI/CYI0300011_T.JPG20:39
macvri think i should do as you are doing... look at more faces, rather than how previous smileys were done...20:39
macvr^the last one was great... perfect20:40
thorwilnow this is really good: http://www.haven4gamerz.com/wp-content/gallery/lucy_pinder/pinder201600x1200.jpg20:40
thorwilooh, what was i looking for, again? ;)20:40
macvrthorwil: i'm not sure where to look :P20:41
macvrthorwil: do you have these images of facial expressions stored? or just google?20:42
thorwilmacvr: google. and bing, just to see how the differ20:43
thorwilbut i do have a collection of headshots20:43
macvrthorwil: i like bing a lot ... especially for images it is awesome20:43
thorwilmacvr: well, the 3rd result for "smirk" contains a naked male butt ...20:44
macvrthe images zoom in... so dont have to waste time clicking for the pages20:44
thorwilmacvr: anyway, work with both eyes and the whole shapes, not just top part20:46
macvri dont get no butts!... maybe the results are more in sync with previous searches ;)20:46
thorwillol20:47
macvrthorwil: ok... i'll work on that20:47
thorwilmacvr: i use the us version, because the german bing starts with less features. http://www.bing.com/?mkt=en-us20:47
macvri use the same... but still no butts for me... i now seriously think that search plays a part....20:49
macvrif thats the web design ....cool20:50
thorwilmacvr: seriously? it can't in this case. my browser erases history and cookies each time i close it and this was my first visit to bing today20:51
macvrjust imagine if results were more triggered by previous searches, that the search would be so custom tuned20:51
macvrthorwil: http://files.getdropbox.com/u/1325768/Screenshot-smirk%20-%20Bing%20Images%20-%20Mozilla%20Firefox.png ... i'm serious, they may be doing it in some way!20:53
thorwilmacvr: yes, there are such approaches to search. but if i would let them collect data for this, it could not lead to _male_ butts ;)20:54
macvrmaybe someone is miss using your sys... :P20:55
macvrthorwil: could you post a screenshot? of your search? i'm really amazed how bing has done this...20:56
* macvr needs to research more into how BING do their search20:57
thorwillet it be known that macvr explicitly asked for a screenshot containing what has been mentioned already and should not be described with any further words!20:58
thorwilhttp://pic.piccdrop.com/i/c/1245268655.png20:58
macvrhaha20:59
macvrthorwil: " ?q=smirk&go= " this is my query all i did was enter smirk and enter... i'm not sure how "go" got in there!21:01
macvryours is just smirk21:01
thorwilof course21:02
macvrthorwil: do you have any insite? how "go" was also in the query?21:02
thorwilmacvr: i'd be suspicious of your fingers21:03
macvrthorwil:  try again ... but "go" is also one of the queries!21:03
macvrtried^21:03
macvrwhen i use the auto complete, "go" is not part of the query... but when i manually enter , "go" seems to be part of the query!21:06
* macvr needs to look into this21:06
thorwilmacvr: are you bored? ;)21:07
macvrkinda more surprised , why this occurs....21:08
thorwilhttp://abduzeedo.com/icons-designer-master-everaldo-coelho21:12
thorwilgood night!21:12
dashua__knome: http://www.ubuntu-pics.de/bild/16643/screenshot_QFbcr3.png22:21
dashua__Blue mod of Hanso, still in it's infancy22:21
dashua__Hacking it up22:21
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