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dannyloHi all01:11
dannyloi'm trying to get a source from another distro01:12
dannyloi added a new line to the sources.list, run an update..01:12
dannyloand then used apt-get source package -t intrepid01:12
dannylobut can't make it work,.. need to do anything more?01:13
directhexdannylo, you added a deb-src line?01:13
dannyloyep01:14
dannyloi added: deb-src http://uy.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ intrepid main01:14
dannyloi did it once, but can't make it work tonight :(01:14
directhexdannylo, try passing the -t statement first01:16
directhexi.e. apt-get -t intrepid source foo01:16
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dannylonope... :(..  should i add the 'deb' line also?01:25
dannyloyep, i added the deb line and worked.. didn't remember that01:36
binarymutant_can someone try pbuilding http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/pidgin-mbpurple , I was told it FTBFS but it is building fine for me  =/01:39
nellerybinarymutant_: maybe that was a problem on my part01:42
* maxb cowbuilds01:43
directhexdannylo, did the source package name not match the name you were apt-get sourcing?01:43
nelleryperhaps my pbuilder is acting up01:44
dannylothey match01:44
maxbbinarymutant_, nellery: build successful here01:44
binarymutant_maxb, thanks :)01:45
nelleryhrm, what is pbuilder doing now01:45
nellerysorry binarymutant_, I'll review and advocate if it's good01:45
binarymutant_nellery, thank you :)01:45
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binarymutantif anyone has the time to advocate http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/pidgin-mbpurple I would be very appreciative =)03:39
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dholbachgood morning07:11
juanjedholbach: grub2 morning :-P07:11
dholbachjuanje: I take it you're happy with grub2? :)07:12
juanjedholbach: hehe... no really yet. I just tried in my old macbook with hardy and it was crashing. But now I got Guadalinexv6 (jaunty) and I'll give it another chance07:14
dholbachjuanje: good luck with that!07:15
juanjedholbach: hehe Thanks :-)07:15
rawlerquick question; is it considered a bad practice to mark your own bugs in launchpad to "In Progress" if the problem is acknowleged upstream?07:34
rawler(and fix available upstream)07:34
persiarawler, -> #ubuntu-bugs, but most people don't do that.07:34
rawleror should I wait for some dev to confirm and mark state?07:35
persiaGenerally, just because upstream is fixing it isn't considered sufficient that it is being fixed in Ubuntu.  That said, if you want to track it, assign it to yourself, set in-progress, and mark it complete when the fix is applied.07:35
rawlerokies.. leaving it untouched, but myself on CC.. :)07:36
rawlermeanwhile, if someone have a couple of free minutes, I've got a package in dire need for sponsorship.. :) http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=tetzle07:36
dstansbyHi guys :)08:43
dstansbyJust want to ask a quick question: I'm working on a bug that requires me to look at the code from a jaunty package, however I am running karmic. Is there anyway to get the jaunty source using apt-get?08:44
RAOFHave the Jaunty deb-src lines in your sources.list (or sources.list.d), and apt-get source -t jaunty $SOURCEPACKAGE08:45
RAOFAlternatively, work out what version of the source package Jaunty has, and ask for "apt-get source $SOURCEPAKCAGE=$THEVERSION"08:46
dstansbyRAOF: Thanks, I used the second method and it worked a treat08:49
dstansby:D08:49
maxbbah, he's left09:32
* maxb wanted to suggest pull-lp-source09:32
Hewvorian, bug 387231, it builds for me and in my PPA, are you sure it FTBFS?09:53
ubottuLaunchpad bug 387231 in revelation "revelation 0.4.11-4ubuntu1 FTBFS" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/38723109:53
gaspaHew: how can that diff fixes a ftbfs?09:57
gaspais that .py called by some test?09:57
Hewgaspa, a Debian patch failed to apply on the .py file because it was previously modified by Ubuntu, and I forgot to revert the change.09:58
Hewthat debdiff reverts to the native version of the .py09:59
gaspaok ,I see.09:59
Hewsee the ubuntu1 revelation build log, and also the ubuntu2 that successfully builds in my PPA09:59
gaspajust seeing.10:00
gaspaHew: anyway, attach the build log in the bug.10:01
Hewfor ubuntu1? ok, thanks for the advice.10:02
gaspano, for ubuntu210:02
Hewoh ok10:02
Hewgaspa, once I do that, do you think I should resubscribe u-u-s?10:05
gaspaHew: I'd wait for an answer by vorian.10:05
Hewok I'll wait a bit more :-)10:05
huayraI need review work on this when we are done packaging: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/iFolderPackaging10:13
huayraboth simias and ifolder are now running under Jaunty10:13
MetaMorfoziSHi all, i have dependency problems on jaunty, is i'm at the right place to ask about it?10:18
MetaMorfoziSprob: http://pastebin.com/m32924a73  sources.list : http://pastebin.com/m6711ca1510:18
Hobbsee#10:20
HobbseeERROR: Module alias not properly enabled: /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/alias.load is a real file, not touching it10:20
Hobbseehave you created that file in the past?10:20
Hobbseeif not, remove it, and run sudo dpkg --configure -a10:21
MetaMorfoziSyup, i have copied my old config before10:21
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HobbseeMetaMorfoziS: looks like it's supposed to be a symlink or something, not a real file10:21
MetaMorfoziSOk, i try to mv /etc/apache2 /etc/apache_old10:22
MetaMorfoziSit still cries10:23
MetaMorfoziShttp://pastebin.com/m66c612d010:23
HobbseeMetaMorfoziS: no, don't ove the entie directory.  Just move the alias.load file.10:23
Hobbseemove the directory back, ove the alias.load file, and ty again10:24
MetaMorfoziSbut why that solves the dependency problem?10:24
Hobbsee(add m's and r's where appropriate, my keyboard is dying)10:24
MetaMorfoziS:s10:24
HobbseeMetaMorfoziS: because it lets the package that the othe bits rely on to upgrade properly10:25
Hobbseeso then they, in turn, can upgrade10:25
MetaMorfoziSnow i have removed apache2, moved /etc/apache, now try to install it again10:25
MetaMorfoziSit must work, no?10:25
MetaMorfoziSt10:25
Hobbseeshould do10:26
MetaMorfoziSvery intresting10:26
MetaMorfoziSthank you, it worked10:26
MetaMorfoziS:)10:26
Hobbseeyou're welcome10:27
HobbseeMetaMorfoziS: what you did was the equivalent of removing some of the stairs in a staircase, while someone was walking up them.  Then they went splat.10:28
Hobbseeput the stairs back, they can get up the stairs fine10:28
MetaMorfoziS:-)10:28
Hobbseeoh, and adding a giant box, so people couldn't get past it10:28
MetaMorfoziSyes, it asked about to overwrite the config in the modules10:29
Hobbseesounds about right10:29
MetaMorfoziSand for first i said no then yes...10:29
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Riddellping cody-somerville, jdong_: bug 38221512:31
ubottuLaunchpad bug 382215 in amule "Update aMule to 2.2.5 ASAP (security issue fixed)" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/38221512:31
randomactionAll recent armel builds fail (last successful build ~15 hours ago); whats12:49
randomactionthe right place to report it?12:49
geserdoes it fail for a common reason? or are the failures different?13:09
randomactionthere is a common reason, at least for packages using autotools13:14
randomaction"configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables"13:14
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RainCTjpds: I've seen you've changed update-maintainer. Isn't the ML change decision for after Archive Reorganization?14:38
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foolanohi guys, is there anybody working on the asterisk merge?14:55
Laneyfoolano: ask the last uploader14:57
Laney...I wonder if I have any merges to do14:57
Laneyyes, damn and blast14:58
foolanoLaney: weren't you the last uploader?14:59
foolanoi was checking https://merges.ubuntu.com/universe.html14:59
Laneyfoolano: That just means I sponsored it15:00
LaneyI don't know what that comment means though - maybe it could be synced now?15:00
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AnAntHello, why does mutt build-depend on elinks instead of elinks-lite ?15:32
AnAntin ubuntu that is15:32
LaneyAnAnt: I don't know why we deviate from Debian there. Perhaps you could ask the person who made the change first?15:37
geserAnAnt: I guess it's because elinks-lite was in universe till 2009-05-0415:42
AnAntoh15:42
Laneywhy isn't 'links' (as Debian do) good enough?15:43
geserI don't know the differences between links, links2 or elinks15:45
Laneyquite15:45
Laneybut presumably Debian would choose for the same reasons we would15:47
geserand links is in universe15:47
Laneyunless it's to do with the server cd or something15:47
geserso can't be used as a B-D for mutt15:47
Laneythat'll be it15:48
AnAntaha, so elinks-lite was in universe till karmic !15:48
jpdsRainCT: Might as well do it now. :)15:50
geserAnAnt: any reason why you are asking?15:51
AnAntgeser: elinks has a lot of deps, and I don't think that mutt needs all the bells & whistles of elinks to make its docs15:52
AnAntgeser: probably elinks-lite is just fine for it15:53
geserAnAnt: if you prepare a merge (there is a new mutt in unstable) and plan to change this, please think also to change the recommends from exim4 to default-mta15:53
AnAntgeser: I am preparing indeed15:54
AnAntgeser: ok, done15:54
Laneydoes debian have default-mta?15:55
geserIIRC exim4 provides it there15:56
AnAntno15:56
geserI remember seeing a mail about it, will try to find it15:56
* Laney is all about small deltas15:56
geser* exim4-daemon-light now Provides: default-mta. See #508644.15:57
Laneyexcellent15:57
AnAntthat's a virtual package15:57
AnAntcan one recommand : virtual package | virtual package ?15:58
geserI guess so15:58
AnAntI'm sure that this is not accepted neither in Depends nor Build-Deps15:59
Laneywhy do you need to?15:59
AnAntLaney: why do I need to what ?15:59
Laneyhave the alternate dep15:59
AnAntwell, I don't think that I can Recommend a virtual package either16:00
geserso it wouldn't try to install postfix if an other MTA is already installed16:00
AnAntI think it should be (at least that's how it is in Deps): real-package [|virtual package]16:00
Laney:q16:00
Laneyoops16:00
AnAntso I think exim4 should be left as it is (or maybe changed to postfix)16:01
jpdsLaney: Usually the smiley is: :p16:02
geserthe whole idea behind it was that we don't have to change exim4 to postfix in every package16:02
Laneyyou are supposed to recommend default-mta | mail-transport-agent16:03
Laneyonly one thing provides the former afaik16:03
geserAnAnt: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-June/028289.html16:04
mok0Hmm, anyone else seen this compiler error:16:04
mok0  /usr/lib/gcc/powerpc-linux-gnu/4.4.0/../../../../lib/crti.o: could not read symbols: File format not recognized16:04
Laneygeser: good find, that's what I thought16:04
geserAnAnt: it mentions Depends there so I assume it's also good for Recommends16:04
AnAntok16:05
AnAntand how about Build-Depend on elinks-lite instead ? is that a good idea ?16:06
Laneyif it works16:07
Laneyyou could suggest that to debian to16:07
Laneyo16:08
radixis there a way to change the directory that debuild/dpkg-buildpackage puts files into? (I mean .dsc, .build, .deb etc)16:18
radixe.g. if I want it to be ../debs instead of ../16:18
AnAntok, who should I subscribe for mutt's merge request ?16:33
AnAntu-u-s ?16:33
Laneyit's in main isn't it16:33
Laney?16:33
AnAntoh, yes16:34
AnAntso, who should I subscribe ?16:34
AnAntubuntu-main-sponsors16:37
AnAntdone ! LP 38851516:38
ubottuLaunchpad bug 388515 in mutt "Candidate revision mutt_1.5.20-1ubuntu1" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/38851516:38
AnAntisn't there a tool like requestsync for the merges ?16:38
Laneyplease forward the changes for discussion16:40
AnAntLaney: huh ?16:41
Laneyto Debian16:41
AnAntLaney: what's the tool to forward ubuntu patch ?16:41
Laneysubmittodebian, but you probably want to do it by hand16:41
Laneyas there are two separate changes16:41
AnAntis default-mta instead of exim a wishlist ?16:49
AnAntor normal ?16:49
geserI'd file it as normal and assume the DD will change it if he sees it more as a wishlist16:54
AnAnthow would i convince them to use elinks-lite instead of links ?16:54
geserthat's a good question, perhaps it's one of those ubuntu-specific changes we need to carry around16:55
LaneyIt doesn't take them any time to say thanks but no thanks16:55
Laneyjust say "we've made this change because of x and y, here's why it won't make life any worse than you. How about considering it? If not, no hard feelings"16:56
AnAntdone !17:01
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AnAntLaney: you can use submittodebian twice and edit the patches accordingly17:02
LaneyAnAnt: right17:02
binarymutantif anyone has the time to revu http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/pidgin-mbpurple I would be very appreciative =)17:04
mok0geser: are you on regina-normal?17:39
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RainCTfta: Hey. FYI, parallel installation of metacity and mutter should be possible soon :). Several patches related to this have been landing those days19:06
yofelhey guys, could somebody tell me who I could ask for help on the state of bug 280188 ?19:09
ubottuLaunchpad bug 280188 in zenity "libgtkada2-bin : trying to overwrite `/usr/bin/gdialog', which is also in package zenity" [Low,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/28018819:09
yofelthe 'fix' makes the package unusable19:09
yofel*the libgtkada2-bin package19:09
yofelsince uninstalling zenity is short to impossible19:10
directhexhm19:58
* directhex finishes comparing gnote 0.5.0 to tomboy 0.14.019:58
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binarymutantif anyone has the time to revu http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/pidgin-mbpurple I would be very appreciative =)20:05
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fabrice_sp_Hi. What should be the status of a SRU bug? Confirmed or New?20:36
fabrice_sp_it's for Bug #34520820:36
ubottuLaunchpad bug 345208 in pythonmagick "[SRU]PythonMagick is not usable because of missing functions" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/34520820:36
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vorianhew, still about?22:24
dupondjehttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/audacious-plugins/+bug/38330722:32
ubottuLaunchpad bug 383307 in audacious-plugins "Please merge audacious-plugins 2.0.1-1 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,Confirmed]22:32
dupondjewhy is it taking weeks to get accepted :(22:32
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